Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

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>>50935235
This thread is now property of Chaos Dorfs

Kroak

Wall

etc.

>>50933470
can you put a trigger warning on that shit?

we have some sensitive people in these threads that cant handle seeing kurnoth scythes

>>50934259
Do you want to buy a grand alliance book, tear out the pages, scan them, collect the scans, and then put your book back together?

Battletomes have digital copies. GA books are only physical.

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>>50935343
Talking about shitpost, its done.
Just need a coffee drinking khorne guy or something.

Couldn't fit everything, and its V1.0 so it'll probably change.
You could fill 1 bingo with just comment about waagfac.
Lets see how many box we tick in this thread.

>>50935360
Why would you put scythe if you have only 3 Kurnoth ? you dont have any range bonus ffs

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>>50935387
>kroak didnt make the list

just as he foresaw...

>>50935327
You mean fantasy Squats? Cos chaos dorfs are about as relevant

>>50935327
Do our glorious masters the Chaos Dwarfs not have points values? I was looking into getting them but I don't see any in the compendium section in the back of GHB.

>>50935427
theyre on the forgeworld website

>>50935427
Nvm found them on FW site, I'm retarded.

>>50935427
They are available for free on FW website. Ill add it in the OP.

Be careful they play VERY different from 8th. They are a horde army now.
Like field 5 deathshrieker and 40 dwarf + 2 squads of bull centaur in 2k kind of horde..

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>>50935387
Shit posting you say?

>Summoner
>Bird mooks
>Buffed up animal bird mooks
>Roided up musclebound wizard

That's it for arcanites?

>>50935552
presumably the ogroids and armored tzeentch minotaurs

>>50935587

woh those are a thing?

>>50935648
we well see next week i guess

>>50935464
It's okay I'm new to the hobby anyway so I have no basis for comparison. I just like the look of them and the concept of evil demon dwarfs.

Also looking at Fimir, seem cool. I remember having the plastic ones from HeroQuest, but the FW ones look way cooler.

>>50935707
>tfw they removed the rape lore they had

Shame

whats a good glaze for the magical blue effect?

I use ice blue for the sylvaneth weapons and some white edging. any tips?

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>>50935842
https://youtu.be/ocX6TzX-e9o

I rip off all this guys shit, people think I am good painter.

>>50935921
Except his Dryad guide. His Dryad guide is terrible. Well, the last drybrush is at least.

Does anyone have any new in box tomb kings they are looking to sell?

>>50935387
but why is fielding a strong list bad? that DOES feel like someone being bad at games

>>50935755
>tfw you want to make a fimir army
>tfw there's really only one unit
>tfw fimir are so obscure you know even chaos dorfs will get a warscroll before them

why even cyclops rape things?

Leaders
Settra The Imperishable (360)
- General
Liche Priest (120)
Liche Priest (120)

Units
Skeleton Chariots x 3 (140)
- Battleline
Skeleton Chariots x 3 (140)
- Battleline
Skeleton Chariots x 3 (140)
- Battleline
Necropolis Knights x 6 (320)
Tomb Scorpions x 1 (80)

Behemoths
Khemrian Warsphinx (280)
Khemrian Warsphinx (280)

Total: 1980/2000

does this list look ok?

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>>50936055
Aaaand we're off!

>>50936055
it isnt.
But this came from someone saying "I'm not a waacfag" while trying to field Kroak and balewind for a casual game.

>>50936088
they already have a warscroll. And if you dont want them to end up like Chaos dwarf you better buy them because they only expand something if it sell good.

>>50935387
You missed
>game has no tactics
or
>pile in the middle and roll 3+ to win the game

what the fuck people are really trying to sell warsphinx's for 300 dollars on ebay fuck you gw you stupid faggot fucks.

have they said they are going to re-release tomb kings ? every defender in the AoS microcephaly marine edition keeps saying nothing is squatted and it will come out again but there's been absolutely no proof

>>50936152
I meant new ones aside from the Warriors, but point taken.

Time to go buy a bunch of one-eyed monsters!

>>50935978
What should we do instead?

>>50936172
BUY A RECAST RETARD

>>50936172
>AoS microcephaly marine edition
I laughed

>>50936132
Have you tried running this list?

Too many chariots. I know that sounds weird but it's true. With 6 Necropolis Knights and 9 chariots you will have a hard time getting enough surface area to get melee attacks off.

You need a Tomb Herald that stays near Settra and prevent him from being sniped, and to ressurect more skelets.

Two sphinxes is usually overkill. I also usually prefer the Royal Warsphinx because the command ability makes Necropolis Knights do mortal wounds on 4+. It also has the Hero keyword so you can give it some ridiculous artifacts like the Tomb Blade or the Book of Shadows.

I would do this:
-1 Skeleton Chariot (140)
-2 Warsphinx (560)
+10 Skeletons (80)
+1 Royal Warsphinx (340)
+1 Bone Giant (200)
+1 Necrotect (100)

Puts you at 2000 exactly.

you stupid deceiving faggots " oh tomb kings will be REALLY CHEAP to get into now! everyone will dump their army on ebay"

i hope you all choke to death on your giant ugly playmobile quasi space marines

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-Tomb-Kings-Necrosphinx-Khemrian-Warsphinx-Age-of-Sigmar-NEW-/201764624107?roken=cUgayN&soutkn=6MrEdg

>>50936188
Be neater and use a less contrasting colour I guess?

I mean, I mostly layered mine after a light drybrush, but for some reason Duncans one just turns out looking horrible for some reason. It just looks so messy.

>>50936247
who the fuck are you mad at? this isnt your personal blog

>>50936247
once they do another balance pass on the game and bring into line the currently overly strong tomb king lists you'll see the floor drop out from under those miniature prices.

The only reason anyone even wants to play tomb kings is because of the units / combos of tomb kings that make them unfairly powerful.

with a rebalance with the new generals handbook I bet that all those people who blew their cash wad on tomb kings will be kicking their own balls because of how shortsighted they were.

>>50936334
>The only reason anyone even wants to play tomb kings is because of the units / combos of tomb kings that make them unfairly powerful.
Necropolis Knights are the best unit and they are a rend 1 attack.

Tomb Kings are fine, git gud

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>>50936247
What are you on about ?

>>50936429
>(insert any OP army ever) are fine, git gud

lol you are a meme

>>50935978
I dont like his dryads either, I prefer a more tree like darker brown.

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>smile
>charming attitude
>accent
>non elitist attitude to help pull in the normies
>That skill

How does he do it?

>>50936518
4500 British pound/month

>>50936536

are you fucking shitting me?

>>50936288
you. now lets push in our bad dragon dildos and paint or fuckawesome StormBringerss of LightningCasters and Dino Dicks.

>>50936632
Wow calm down friendo.
Remember, it's only a game.

>>50936496
e-mail

>>50936797
It's in the previous thread friendo, good luck.

>>50936804
thanks

>>50936498
If you think TK are overpowered then you should stop playing khorne bloodbound

I have no wargaming experience. I'm drawn to Nurgle but hear he's slow as shit and can't kill anything.

Whats better for a beginner; Nurgle (mortal or daemons), skeletons, or ghosts?

>>50937008
Rule of cool my friend. Pick what looks coolest to you.

>>50937008
Man, the last big Tournament as been win by nurgle list went as follow from memory

Guo
Guo
Herald of nurgle

Bataillon tallyband of nurgle

10 plaguebearers
10 plaguebearers
20 plaguebearers

6Drones
6Drones

guys went 9-0 by moving forward

>>50937029
If I had enough cash I'd go Nurgle, but building a decent 1000pt army, that can kill things, for him seems real expensive.

>>50937162
Don't even worry about killing things anon. Rule of Cool. You need to factor in that there is also some luck that goes into this game, so you could have the best damn army in the world and still lose because of shit rolls.

What's the best sized Round base for a Chaos Hellcannon? I am trying to figure out what all I need should I buy one off of ebay.

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Posting this again in case anyone wants it and hoping to trigger the math challenged lurkers some more.


fill out a blank sheet like the picture and paste the following into cell K12:

=((1/(1-(MAX(IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6),IF(F12<>"",IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)+((1-IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)),IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)),(IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)+((1-IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,G12/(6-(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6))))+((1-MAX(IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6),IF(F12<>"",IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)+((1-IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)),IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)),(IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)+((1-IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,G12/(6-(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))))*IF(IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12)="",0,(7-IF(OR(D12+I12>6,D12=""),"",D12+I12))/6)))))*IF(E12="",0,(7-E12)/6))))*IF(H12="",1,2))*C12)/(A12/B12)

now you can analyze the relative durability of your units.

>>50937790
carnosaur/treeman base

I played Empire in 7th for a small bit, holy order of the steam tank. I haven't played AOS yet but am contemplating a Free People Gunline.

-Is the Hurricanum a must-have for such a list, for the extra accuracy on handgunners?
-What's a good ratio of handgunners to chaff freeguard/outriders?
-What are normal pitfalls I should be prepared to handle?
-What is the best way to defend against weapons that do a number of hits based on unit size (stone throwers, etc)? I'm not seeing any real difference in spreading out versus running the shooty guys in compact blocks, other than defending vs multi-assaults, etc.

One thing that does look cool is the permissive formations and LOS could let me do stuff like running hollow infantry squares, if I really want to get Napoleonic on stuff.

>>50938207
>-Is the Hurricanum a must-have for such a list, for the extra accuracy on handgunners?
Yes

-What's a good ratio of handgunners to chaff freeguard/outriders?
You need enough infantry to stop melee for 2 battle rounds so you can get 3 rounds of shooting. That's tough to do because free peoples have bad saves, low wounds, and bad bravery.
Outriders are for killing wizards, artillery crew, and capturing objectives.

>-What are normal pitfalls I should be prepared to handle?
Fast armies, or anyone that can deep strike. Also shooting armies. Also 2+ rerollable saves. Also units that ignore Rend-1. Also units that deal damage based on the number of models in your unit.
You are also very susceptible to battleshock tests because freeguild have garbage bravery.

>-What is the best way to defend against weapons that do a number of hits based on unit size (stone throwers, etc)? I'm not seeing any real difference in spreading out versus running the shooty guys in compact blocks, other than defending vs multi-assaults, etc.
Use smaller units or focus fire.
Those units exist to counter big swarms of infantry, you need to identify them and destroy them before they can reach you.

>>50938252
Thanks. I'd imagine that the "cheapest squad possible" is ideal for delaying melee, no? After all, if an opponent wants to get in melee, and gets 20 or so attacks, throwing 20 models in front may well be 5, due to said Battleshock.

How valid is MSU for AOS anyway? On one hand, the ability to target multiple units makes it dramatically different from the older Warhammer games while bonuses based on unit size are another thing. On the other hand, Battleshock and pseudo-aoe are things.

Are there any notable units/tricks that let you do move-shoot-move in this game?

>>50938487
>ideal for delaying melee, no?
correct. if running a "gun line" you need speed bumps, preferably multiple layers of speed bumps.

>How valid is MSU
its usually preferable for maneuverability and helping to contain overkill. related to first question.

>move-shoot-move
from memory tomb kings light cavalry can choose to shoot in the charge phase and move in the charge phase if they want. High elf light cavalry can do the same too I believe.

>>50936809
Do report back with your findings, as I want you to succeed in your quest for a TK army

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>>50929073
Here's an update just for you anon

I have been spending a lot of time putting together metal models, which has not been fun.

I also finished the bone giant, made a custom base for a tomb scorpion, and have nearly finished the warsphinx - haven't decided what riders to put in it yet. The red and gold clashes with the jade skin but ties it in with the rest of my army, so I'm not sure if I like it or not yet. Trying to find the right mix of gold bits and red bits; it's an ongoing process.

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>>50938694
im ready to solve the puzzle. the tomb kings painter who lurks this board is none other than Tom who goes on Vince's weekly show.

>>50938786
>>50938786
we also got guys from miniwargaming and GW regularly shitposting on the AoSg.
most of the AoS "bubble" on youtube read or post here

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Talon or Blade for Soul Grinders?
I'm guessing it's a similar argument for the Kurnoth Hunters' weapon choice

>>50938786
I've never heard of either of these people

Is warhammer weekly worth watching/listening?

>>50938839
MWG posts here!?!?
What!
Quirk- you fucking suck.
Josh- you also suck at every game you play
Steve- fucking WAAC.

>Got gore chosen, silver tower and spire of dawn
>Nobody to play with within two hours travel

Plastics a hell of a drug

>>50938979
Dave is the best MWG

>>50938858
if you are that nurgle guy go with the -2 rend as nothing in your list have -2rend.

>>50936172
either they come back or they have to invent at least 2 other factions for death...

i got pulled back in
>John Wick

>>50939050
I honest to god believe that TK was discontinued because you can't copyright egyptian shit and they were legit egyptian everything. If we see Tomb Kings return, it'll be drastically different I believe. Like, same overall leaders, but new sort of armor and stuff that is Egyptian inspired, but no where near looking like it was.

Make my Plague Monks w/ 2x Blades or Blade and Staff?

I have 40 of them.

>>50939106
2x blades is mathematically better, even with glottkin, iirc

what does waac mean? i cant figure it out

>>50939719
Win At All Crabs

To the resident seraphon player, is the carnival worth it? I have an sc box with magnetized carno rider, kit bashed skink priest and a bastiladon. All the units have done fairly well, the bastiladon being incredible, except the carnosaur. His command ability is meh, he always gets tied up in Shit units that he can't kill because crap rend and eventually dies once anything big comes in to swing. It's such a dope model but it's results have been so lackluster it's upsetting

>Be Me
>Live in Austin Texas
>Home of one of the best gaming stores in the country.
>Can play 40k and/or AoS
>Have full unassembled armies for both systems.
>Can't decide which one to build first.

What do?

>>50939880
Quit being a bitch and just build one.

>>50939857
carnival ?

What are you charging with your canosaur ? how does he end up combocharged and glued somewhere when he have a 10" move ?

Do you have a battle report to show us ?

>>50939880
>how geeee i dont know if i should spend 5 hours completing this army or this army .
>I guess i will lose a week deciding what to do

>>50939857
The carnosaur isn't TOPTIER Rank S++ but i dont get how he "always gets tied up in Shit units that he can't kill because crap rend"
Do you have any example ? i dont see any "shit unit" that need rend to go through let alone "shit unit" that are fast enough and numerous enough to catch a carnosaur,

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Something like 6 Thread ago there was a guy dead set on the cog-thing of the rumour engine being Steamhead Duardin.

I just found an "old" screenshot on a dwarf forum.
this guy, wherever he is now, might be true after all.

What do you guys use to have the rules/warscrolls close during games?
You bought the books or use a tablet?

>>50941070
I use unit cards. No need to open books or tablet to check unit information.

Link to those: http://www.ageofwargamers.com/p/age-of-sigmar-unit-cards.html

>>50939933
>>50940311
I'll use my last game as an example, playing 1k points vs KBB

>take first turn, move carno to opposite side of deadly terrain, using it to screen against charges
>aiming for his chaos warshrine
>flank carnosaur with knights
>advance warriors to objective
>stegadon Plays midfield, bringing down the bloodsecrator
>his turn
>warshrine up ten bloodwarriors
>whip them
>blood warriors haul ass towards carno
>need an 8 charge, 5 thanks to whip
>valkia the bloody right behind
>blood warriors make the charge on a roll of 8, avoid deadly terrain
>valkia fails
>carnosaur takes 3 wounds from bloodwarriors
>swings back, 1 damage after everything
>lose initiative
>valkia makes charge
>bloodwarriors and valkia bring carnosaur down with minimal casualties


I try to play him as a monster hunter, having him hunt all the big baddies on the board. But he under performs against the Shit battleline screen that catches him and takes too many wounds or just dies before he can retreat or be reinforced.

Am I playing him wrong? Should he not be a roaming hunter?

>>50938591
https://mega.nz/#F!hEUhGZAD!Mqx_Xc2wNqdnLwVMMvijxg

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>>50935327
Yes brother, for the Dawi Zharr, for Hashut!

>>50938997
>Dave
Dave is the fucking worst of them all.

>>50936536
Good for him, he's earned it.

>>50941415
Biggest mistake here is you let a WOMBO COMBO throw down on your one monster.

Best way to support him is to have a screen unit there to take charges or even better, have a second charger unit able to run in and eat up those support units like Whipman and Bloodman.

>>50941181
Good god those look hideous,

>>50941181
>item that people will want to print out in bulk
>put coloured background on every single card
For what purpose.

>>50941070
Tablet (and phone), although I have a GHB on hand as well. Works great. the 'My Battle' feature on the app is really barebones but it does get the job done with listing your ToW, Battleplan, Allegiance stuff and warscrolls all in one place

>>50936496
What am I looking at here.

>>50942251
Chinacast

>>50939036
Thanks m8

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>2 Seraphon players in the area
>They ignore my army-wide rend
>They do extra damage to my stuff
>Cool guy that play LotR and 40k told me he wants to play AoS too
>Seraphon

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What the fuck is wrong with this weapon? It doesn't fit like 12 skavens for now. Has anyone of you build all of your SoD clanrats?

>>50942509
Trying to get through my backlog before starting the SoD stuff, still got a battalion box of Bretonnians and Skaven to get through.

>>50942509
I found I had to angle it further forwards than in that image, (like the angle the bottom-left rat has his spear at,) but otherwise it went on okay.

(Built them when the set was IoB rather than SoD, but I assume the sprues are the same and that.)

What is the primary difference between AoS and regular Warhammer Fantasy lore-wise? I've been reading around and there seem to be differences. Haven't played either miniatures game but I do like the Warhammer RPG and the Warhammer TW game.

>>50942680
IoB was snap fit?

>>50942735
It's a bit too vague at the moment to really be sure, especially when you factor in how long AoS is supposed to be after the old world and how much time passes by between events like the Realmgate wars, which apparently have ended now and civilization is rebuilding itself in all the realms

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What are pros and cons of square bases? I want o put models from SoD on round ones but I'm scared of cutting of the extra plastic parts

>>50942840
Well shit, that seems like an incredibly long time after both the RPG and TW game. I've been reading the lexicanum, but it's not as fleshed out as the 40k one. Thanks anon

>>50942735
Fantasy was normal Fantasy, while AoS Is High as Fuck Fantasy

>>50941415
this is an example of bad luck man.

>>50942802
yes

>>50942875
Yeah, honestly I believe AoS lore is going to be good when it gets more established. The big problem with how it launched and why people still don't really like it was because it got rid of a setting with 30 years of backstory and replaced it with an incredibly vague new setting and didn't really explain what happened. Now they are fleshing it out, so give it time.

>>50942907
I know, seems like they went "Hey guys all that shit got fucked by Chaos, so here's some new shit". Feels kind of cheap...but if they're gonna flesh it out and keep fantasy Warhammer going I'll definitely follow along.

>>50941483
This is true

>>50942907
>>50942924
I think if they decide how it grows with worldwide campaigns, like the War of Life, it could be interesting.

Although the War of Life was a landslide victory for Order, I have a feeling it wouldn't go that way next campaign because there should be a little more balance.

>>50941431
You order anything from the chinaman yet? I sincerely hope you succeed in building your TK army anon

>>50942873
Pros
Easier to stack units in regiments

Cons
You are human garbage

>>50943507
Damn it Anon, so many edges - why?

>>50943507
>Cons
>You are human garbage
kek

>>50943562
>put the horn nipples on him

Disappointed

>>50943596
Shieet wrong general >>50943562

Does the Maggoth look complete without a rider? I want to use one as a GUO, but I don't know if the rider is integral to the construction.

>>50943507
>R-round bases are better guys
>Square bases are cheaters! CHEATERS!

>>50935235
Is it me or are the Tzeentchian guys too clean and (literally) defined to be Chaotic servants of a Chaos Gods? Look at those cut muscles, clean physiques (apart from the beastmen faces), and superb weapons

>>50943849
Nah, Tzeentch is probably the most orderly one of the Chaos gods, given that they are all about twists and tricks and general magic faggotry. It makes sense for his followers to be a bit more on the clean, trim, and more enlightened side of thought given his nature.

>>50943809
The top/back is empty iirc
You would have to fill it

>>50943981

Motherfucker.

Thanks anyway.

>>50938591
I'm a different anon.

So I sent an order last night to the Chinaman, but now I'm thinking of buying the real thing off of eBay. I sent everything like the FAQ said to and I haven't gotten an invoice or anything yet, so what should I do about possibly canceling that order?

>>50942369
whats Your list ? if you want to stomp seraphon just play Beastclaw

>>50944269
if you cancel youll probably never be able to rroder again. check out reddit yoyhammer, its one a one or two man job that have thousands of orders a year.
The invoice can take up to 1 month and dont expect any mail. they recieve literraly hundreds a day

>>50944370
So would I just send a new email then asking to cancel the previous order? I was using them just for the purpose of getting an OoP model, but anything currently still available I'll buy from GW

>>50944490
ask yoyhammer, i never ordered myself

>>50943562
So he's a Parrot like every Magnusfag ever?

New to AoS, I'm thinking of getting the Start Collecting nurgle demon box, a box of Blight Kings, Gutrot Spume.. Is that enough to be an army? I might add a Great Unclean One to that in the near future...

>>50944575
Check out the General's handbook and tally up the points. Get it.

>>50944345
I actually never lost a single game against Seraphon, even with my worst lists.
That's because of my incredible luck and because I'm a far better player than them.
Still, it's so annoying to play against with my army because they nullify everything cool about my dudes and punish you for no reason other than being a Chaos Daemon.

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>The amount of mouldlines on my Blightkings
I'm in hell

>>50944535
I'm not really concerned about getting blacklisted so much as I'm curious about invoicing from PayPal, I mean, surly they wait to get paid first before shipping, but I just don't want a scenario where they ship something and then I have to pay regardless because he sent an invoice

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>>50944345
>>50944674
Even their battletome has pictures of their dudes beating mine, and go in a great details and give them a fluffy scenario between our faction that is unwinnable for us.

My army is the punching bag of Seraphons, almost to the point they seems to be made to be my counter, and now they are 3. Almost half the players in my city.

Fuck.

>>50943843
...ok, very noob question, why do folks consider square bases to be 'cheating' anyway?

From a gameplay perspective - is AoS a better experience than 40k?

Obviously this is subjective, but for those of you who play both, which do you prefer and why?

>>50942873
oh my god those fucking mold lines hurt my eyes

>>50944932
they are on different powerlevel if you play slaanesh.
just fuck it and play skarbrand /skaarac or field something like the nurgle force above in the thread to win.

>>50945280
you can attack with 2 times more model.
take 10 guy on square base and 10 guys on round base and the 10 guys on square base win 100% of the time very easily

>>50945353
Uh, except that units like decimators want the enemy to be bunched together. Yes, please put more guys within 2 inches of my axes. chop chop chop

>>50945297
okay so just so you know i started with 4th ed 40k.
I played until 3 months ago and as you can expect, i have a fucklot of point for many armies.
today i only play x-wing and aos.
40k just became a bloated shitfest and was pay to win for the last 4 years.
AoS is deeper than the rules suggest, they just cut all the bullshit non relevant to gameplay.
i suggest you to try without buying anyhing and if you have some deamon you are good to go already

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>>50943843
>>50943507
I don't get it. I mean you can pack more models with round bases to pile in when attack so how using square bases is cheating?

>>50945441
okay. you are trolling.
he doesnt NEED to be super close when he dont want to, thats the thing.
he will be outperformin 100% of the other 99% of aos unit and will just use them as if they were round bases vs shitmators.

>>50945454
most 20mm square base are now 25 to 32mm round base.

>>50936536
After taxes?

>>50945353
>>50945280
You measure from the model. It doesn't matter what base you use. Any advantage can easily be a disadvantage.

>>50945485
Indeed, even clanrat round bases are smaller than square ones. Damn, maybe I will just pay someone to prepare bigger models like ogors to glue them on round bases

>>50945319
Oh bite me, I just cut them out sprues

>Blightking that uses the Scythe is also the one that makes the Icon bearer
Fuck you GW

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Guys, I always see in professional paint tuts, they have the individual pieces on a sort of perfect shaped pin to hold them and paint them effectively. What are these called and where can I find them? Also is it better to paint the parts individually or all together as a model?

>>50945748
Fuck you buy more models

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>>50945772
I would but i've already budgeted my 2k list, even got some FW stuff to.
Maybe next time JewDubs

>>50935235
>Generals Handbook
Am I to understand the game has some actual rules now or is it still the 4 page leaflet?

>>50945748
>he cant cut plastic

>>50945845
This fucking meme.

There are 4 PAGES OF CORE RULES.
The general's handbook provides additional rules and points for pitched battles.

Battle plans, Terrain, and Models all have additional rules on their war scrolls.

All of these things lock together like voltron to create a rather complex ruleset. It's very modular compared to the fucking textbook that 40k or WFB was.

>>50945726
you dont measure from the model IRL. every tiurnament and every body use bases

>>50945875
Not Can't, more "Don't want to fuck up my first army after a few years break of mini gaming"

Chess is like 1 page of rules, depending on what size font you use.

Why do people think clearly written, concise rules are "for kids"?

What is the point of needless complexity?
Is it just so that people can say "IT'S NOT FOR KIDS, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND ADULT!"

>>50945845
Here we go >>50936135

>>50945912
the 4 page rules were shit though.
>>50945880
Where can I read them? I'm genuinely interested in forming an opinion on the game now that it's supposedly matured

>>50945771
People just use a bit of wire in a cork. or a toothpick, or straightend out paperclip. It isn't anything special.

Also, that is largely personal preference. Some prefer to paint literally every part individually before assembly, but that is a little pointless in my opinion.

I do advise painting parts of a model that would make it difficult to reach other visible parts separately though. For example, leaving shields, or bearded heads off a model to make it easier to paint the body.

>>50945994
Read the fucking OP you baby.

>>50946022
I'll go back to crying about how they killed fantasy now, cause that book made me sad.
Campaign system seems alright though

Why does the random turn rule bother so many people?

>>50946189
it doesnt bother anybody because nobody uses it.

The problem WAS that shooty unit could fire so much without you doing anything or dying because they cant shoot at all

>>50946230
>it doesnt bother anybody because nobody uses it.
Most people use it. Stupid people who can not comprehend planning for it to happen don't use it.

>>50946297
This. Most of the older players at my LGs have a hard time, since they played whfb. Nobody else has problems adapting.

>>50946297
given its banned at all tournament, no, most people dont use it.

>>50946349
The tournaments I have seen used it.

Granted, I only really watched ones streamed by GW.

It should also be added, that most people do in fact, not play in tournaments.

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Are Wanderers actually good or acceptable in AoS? i wanted to start playing them but there´s something that tells me not to play them like, i don´t know, they can´t keep up with the other armies.I love the miniatures of the old Wood Elves but i feel it will be a waste of money that i could use in another army

>>50946617
Using their mounted units, they're a fast, hard hitting army (when buffed properly) but can't take a hit very well.

Using them as footsloggers is possibly not the greatest idea but they can shoot pretty well and some of their heroes have interesting buffs that you can play around with.

All in all, they're at pretty much the same level that all non-battletome factions are, depending on your skill level.

>>50946349
Out of sheer curiosity, which tournaments? The random turn structure is so integral to AoS, I wonder why somebody would choose to opt out of that.

>>50946189
Because they havent learned to play around it yet

Decent seraphon list for 2k? I know slow moving melee army but that seems kind of hard for seraphim to get around

+++ Seraphon (Age of Sigmar v8) (2000pts) +++

++ Pitched Battle (2,000) (Grand Alliance: Order v26) (2000pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

Allegiance [Seraphon]

+ Leader (420pts) +

Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160pts)

Skink Priest (100pts)

Skink Starseer (160pts)

+ Leader/Behemoth (260pts) +

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260pts)

+ Behemoth (500pts) +

Bastiladon (300pts)

Stegadon (200pts)

+ Artillery (180pts) +

Razordons (60pts) [Razordon]

Salamanders (60pts) [Salamander]

Salamanders (60pts) [Salamander]

+ Battleline (500pts) +

Saurus Guard (200pts) [2x 5 Saurus Guard]

Saurus Guard (200pts) [2x 5 Saurus Guard]

Saurus Warriors (100pts) [10 Saurus Warriors]

+ Other (140pts) +

Terradon Riders (140pts) [3 Terradon Riders]

>>50947212
looks good

>>50946617
I wouldn't call them good, but they are very reasonable. Solid ranged capabilities, decent command and magic, nice selection of infantry and cavalry.

Is it me or are Seraphon the go-to cheese list at the moment?

It is a very popular army at the moment and I wonder - do people just love lizard men that much or are they just a bunch of band wagoners jumping on because they heard it's a strong army?

>>50947209
its your turn, you move etc.
Its enemy turn, he invoc 2 nourghul behind your lines
>Ha what a noob ! i will evaporate the unsuporrted mourngul easily!! he cant even move !!!
next turn enemy wins the roll he start the turn,invoc some more, mourngul get the charge to the critical unit they spawn near a turn before, he basically won by turn 2..
>But... they were insupported ?

As a death player myself, i would LOVE to play in your group.

also apply for seraphon, deep striking extremis, dreadmaws, chaos demons etc.

>>50947249
They are cool. go for it, and since they are selling well, they will be supported for years to come.

>>50947212
Stegadon and Bastiladon can focus fire and kill most heroes, especially with rerolls from Astrolith Bearer.

Starseer has great synergy with Priest and Terradons.

Looks fine. Only think I would do is cut 5 guard to bring another Salamander and some skink handlers. The 4" range bonus from handlers can mean the difference between being able to shoot and not being able to shoot.

>>50947308
>leaving enough space behind your army for units to get summoned there
>playing aggressively when your opponent has the chance of getting a double turn

Learn to play around it moron

>>50947249
I don't think they're considered a top army in the UK, which has the most advanced AoS scene as far as I can tell.

>>50947249
They have like a billion different ways to pull off bullshit, so what do *you* think?
More seriously, it's probably a mix. They have a large selection of gorgeous models, a cheap starter box, very powerful rules and easy access to a variety of actually kinda broken shenanigans like the dreaded Kroak+Balewind+Astrolith combo.

So how's the game doing nowadays, Anons?

>>50947705
Can wer get a UK ranking? I'll be going for work in a while.

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StartCollecting Steamhead when ?

>>50948154
Presumably some time after the update hits.

>>50948088
Sorry, I don't have a complete list off the top of my head. I know Death and Daemons are considered very strong.

Wondering your opinion of Silver Tower Anon's, I'm more of a 30k, 40k guy these days after the Brets got wiped with End Times, I do however find myself looking at Silver Tower and wondering if it's worthwhile as a game as well as a fun painting time (something other than mostly black (deathwatch) and yellow (Fists))

Why don't I ever see chaos spawn, nurgle or not, in battle reports?

>get hyped about starting AoS army with tzeentch stuff release
>overhear that one guy already have tons of stuff painted form silver tower, 40k tzaangors and daemons
>hype is gone since I wouldn't been a special snowflake

what to do? only armies that're not played in my lgs are spooks, skellies, lizards and nurgle and slaanesh daemons

>>50948664
Game itself is great, and with card for extra heroes avaliable it's never-ending ride. Completing 1st and easiest level takes form 2 to 3 hours, and you have like... 7 parts of amulet to find. Labirynth pattern is diffrent for every part of amulet and rooms are randomly allocated + tons of random shits happens when you roll extra dice poll for your time.

>>50948750
Don't worry anon, I still think you're special.

I know I won't be feeling special when I buy the new sisters of battle kits.

>>50948750
Just play tzeentch you chucklefuck. If you start an army you don't truly love you'll just end up realising you've wasted your money on stuff you don't like that much in like 6-12 months. Generally in wargaming the first army that genuinely excites & clicks with you is the one you should play.

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>>50939106
Take double foetid blades all day long, hack-slash any non believer

DO IT FOR VERMALANX

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>>50948927
>>50948913
thanks anons, I'll keep my promise and get myself those new and wicked birdguys!

>>50948937
Speaking of Verminlords, which variant is the most viable?

>>50949120
depends of the rest of the list and what you face

>>50943410
Yeah Ive ordered a few things so far, but aint building tk. Got a great bloodthirster, a war mammoth and some smaller stuff (hellcannon, juggerlord and some random heroes). I try to buy legit GW though, whereever it is reasonable.

>>50949120
Warbringer for general combat use, presumably if you are just doing Keyword Skaven

Depends what clan you're playing really.

>>50949164
I've only picked up a cheap IoB set to paint a few so I don't have a proper army yet but I'm leaning towards either a Skryre or Moulder themed list or maybe a bit of both

Razordons or salamanders? Assuming I can buy three models in any combination.

Been getting my ass kicked as seraphon and figured these guys would be a good addition

Can someone tell me what the point costs for a Greater Daemon of Nurgle is and a Putrid Blightking's?

Mega is not working for me for some reason.

>>50949507
Use the warscroll builder and look it up yourself.
http://www.scrollbuilder.com

>>50949507
Blightkings are 180. GUI is 240

I'm new to Warhammer in general... When you're assembling a 1K point army, that means you cannot go over 1K points basically? So if my list is 1040 Points, I have to drop something, correct?

>>50949658
Yes

>>50949267
Corruptor has a devastating command that targets Skaven keyword instead of specific clans and a nice spell that can potentially ravage horde armies. He's also the cheapest at 240, but suffers from sorta mediocre melee and unimpressive durability.
Warbringer is for when you have lots of Verminus keywords, especially in larger games. He also can throw down in a pinch. He's not very tough, but his melee statline makes most big things think twice before engaging him.
Deciever is a very expensive harasser and wizard/warmachine hunter. He'll really need to put in work to earn his keep, but he can be a absolute thorn in your opponent's side, provided he has any sort of vulnerable back field.
Warpseer is garbage. Meh spell, shit command, underwhelming melee. Don't bother.
Screech Verminking is very flexible and can adapt to support most sorts of armies in some form, but he's not doing anything particularly outstanding for any of them.

>>50949658
It varies from club to club/from store to store, with some places being forgiving of going slightly over points, and others having a bit of a zero-tolerance approach to it. I'd say if you aim to be under the points limit when starting out then you can't go wrong & make a bad first impression, you can always expand things slightly if it turns out players near you are more relaxed.

>>50949046
Z jakiego miasta jesteś

>>50948750
You'll never be a special snowflake if your playing the hot new army. And that's overrated anyway, just play what you like and want to paint.

Do you think they will release some kind of expansion for silver tower someday?

Not just some new heroes to play with. But new a add-on with new corridors, monsters, mechanics, goals etc.

>>50949658
Correct. Some communities accept slight overbudgeting, but those are heathens and should be burned.

>>50949708
Thanks for the advice, anon.

>>50943849
Also the fact that there's horrors under tzeentch speaks against the orderly

>>50947308
Turn one, I get to plant standard, and toss out my command abilities. You invoke you shit around my properly placed army. Sweet. You can charge at my screen of clan rats. Which are now buffed to shit. Meanwhile, I could win the double turn next time and cheese you right back.

There's an advantage and a disadvantage to everything.

Buddy with hellcannons wins the first turn. Kills my bsb and melts my leader.
Now I have blobs of unbuffed infantry. I have to get across the board to his shit. At least with double turns I have a chance. Otherwise, the game just plays out as if we didn't use turn order.

>>50949766
A proper expansion would be great but I guess it depends on how successful the game was.
Ogor, Vampire and a ton of other factions have no heroes so I'd like them to add some since there are far too many Stormcast and Khorne heroes

>>50947212
So in the interest of saving me some money from my previous list I've since revised it, does it still retain a decent amount of strength? I could drop the carnosaur but I figured it synergies well with the guard

+++ Seraphon (Age of Sigmar v8) (1960pts) +++

++ Pitched Battle (2,000) (Grand Alliance: Order v26) (1960pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

Allegiance [Seraphon]

+ Leader (460pts) +

Saurus Astrolith Bearer (160pts)

Saurus Eternity Warden (140pts)

Skink Starseer (160pts)

+ Leader/Behemoth (260pts) +

Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260pts)

+ Behemoth (500pts) +

Bastiladon (300pts)

Stegadon (200pts)

+ Artillery (120pts) +

Salamanders (60pts) [Salamander]

Salamanders (60pts) [Salamander]

+ Battleline (500pts) +

Saurus Guard (200pts) [2x 5 Saurus Guard]

Saurus Guard (200pts) [2x 5 Saurus Guard]

Saurus Guard (100pts) [5 Saurus Guard]

+ Other (40pts) +

Skink Handelers (40pts) [3 Skink Handelers]

+ Battalion (80pts) +

Battalion: Eternal Starhost (80pts)

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I want to take part in local 1k pts tournament. Want to run skaven, have two boxes of SoD and probably I will borrow a Warp Lightning Cannon. Should I change something? Maybe one Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team for a second Mortar? I'm totally newbie so please critique meso I could learn something useful

Leaders
Packmaster (60)
- Shock
Skaven Warlord (100)
- War Halberd
Packmaster (60)
- Shock

Units
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Rat Ogors x 2 (120)
Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Rat Ogors x 2 (120)

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

>>50949439
Convert them from cold ones

>>50950022
Combine the Ogres and run one pack master, run a warpfire thrower instead, or ditch mortar two and the pack master for the engineer.

Pack master's buff applies to 1 unit of Ogres. Running two units makes no sense. Get what you need from one instead of two, and don't waste points. The Warlock engineer is capable of using his spell to produce the same amount of damage as a warpfire thrower, at better range.

The poisonwind mortars are situational. I haven't used them and would rather have the guaranteed damage from a warpfire thrower. In your list I would recommend a ratling gun if you could get one.

>>50950022
I am going to assume you have nothing beyond the two Spire of Dawn sets yet:
- Put all rat ogres into one unit for ease of buffing.
- Toss one packmaster and use the spare points to get a warpfire thrower.
- Or toss one packmaster and one poison wind to grab a Grey Seer, since magic will fuck you over. (Convert one out of your second warlord and second warlock).

>>50936605
Well a anon said it so it must be true

>>50950226
Thanks. Wouldn't Mortar be good against bloodbound players with bloodreavers and other skaven players?
>I would recommend a ratling gun if you could get one
Sadly no - as I said, only SoD boxes and cannon

>>50950022
>combine rat ogres
>exchange mortars for flamers
>ditch packmaster 2 for a mortar
>pray it's a casual tourney

>>50950022
-Two units of MSU rat ogors and two packmasters instead of one unit of four and one packmaster. Why?
-Warlord but no Stormvermin to buff. Clanrats go only from 'shit' to 'slightly less shit' under that buff.
-No magic defense or offense.
-PWMs are not horrible, but in nearly all situations inferior to WFTs.

>>50950641
The joint looks like something straight out of 80's but the food does look good. I'm hungry now.

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>>50950412
>>50950412
>pray it's a casual tourney
Easy Anon, I just want to have some fun without being wholly devastated. I will be happy to meet other AoS players, inflict a wound or two and show my GF that this game could be fun, like I have already done with MtG, X-wing and other tabletop stuff so I will probably ask for help with High Elves list some day

So, the bottom line is
Leaders
Skaven Warlord (100)
- General
- War Halberd
Packmaster (60)
- Shock

Units
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Clanrats x 20 (120)
- Rusty Spear
- Battleline
Rat Ogors x 4 (240)
Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team x 1 (60)
Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team x 1 (60)

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

Maybe I will change one Warpfire Thrower and Mortar for Engineer after tournament and try which one would be better

How are Skeleton Hordes? I won a Skelly Horde SC in a giveaway, but if I ever got into fantasy, I'd play Lizardmen because I'm a sucker for anything Aztec themed. Seeing if my group wants to start AoS and switch me for Seraphon.

>>50950641
Much better. I'm not convinced by the Warlord, who doesn't really do much for this list, and the lack of unbinds can come to haunt you, but it's not horrible.
Do you pick traits and relics or do you roll for them?

>>50950698
nice tits, weird face

>>50950742
Huh, I haven't thought about it yet. Actually I didn't know I have to. Apparently I skipped some rules, my bad

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>>50950895
She looks a little bit like Donna Pinciotti

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>>50949708
It's worth noting all Verminlords have the same 12 wounds and 4+ save.

Warpseers get a 3+ until they throw the orb
Only Verminking can heal himself for d3 wounds.
Corruptor is a must-have for Pestilens of course. As is the Deceiver for Eshin, or he will be.

>>50950979
Okay, crash course in choosing Chaos command traits and artefacts:
Pick Lord of War as your command trait and Crown of Command as your artefact. Ignore everything else. Done.

>>50950895
That's perfectly legitimate survival strategy until mid 30's.

>>50948154
Never.
Old dorfs a shit.
Shit!

>>50951058
>Warpseers get a 3+ until they throw the orb
Disregard this shit, i've been smoking the loony leaf

He actually can REROLL saves as long as he has the Orb, i'm talking nonsense.

If he throws the orb it deals 6 mortal wounds to anything with movement 5 or less. That's powerful for bombing a tough hero, but it has very short range

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>>50951095
fyre dorfs beast dorfs

>>50949985
>wasting so many points on bringing that many guard
>cut the skink priest so you dont get to reroll saves
>no screen of warriors/skinks to eat mortal wounds and protect your important models

Ya blew it

Guard are not that good and the Eternal Starhost is massively overrated

>>50951311
Heavy armour trumps naked aprons everytime for me, sorry.

>>50951346
t. waacfag that only go out of his basement for cash prize tournament

>>50951380
>your great hall doesnt have 50 meters high statue of black marble.

>considering yourself as "Dorfs"

>>50951391
Why post lists, ask for criticms, and make alterations if you dont want to win?

>>50951441
>tfw when Grombrindal doesn't hang around outside your forge hall

Confused about Ramapging Destroyers wording. Google gives me nothing sadly.

It says that you can move a D6 as if it was the movement phase, but you cannot run. When they say "cannot run", do they mean run as part of the RD move (i.e making it 2D6) or do they mean that you cannot run when you make your regular move in the movement phase?

>>50951755

Man that was some terrible structuring.
My bad.

>>50951755
It says "as if it was the movement phase" so normally you would be allowed to run in that scenario. They need to add the "you cannot run" so people don't move D6 and then run another D6 with that ability.

You can still run later in that turn. If an ability in one phase stops you from doing something in another phase, it will specifically mention that it works that way.

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>>50951058
>>50949708

Decided to place this knowledge into a an image as Verminlord's are brought up often enough

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>>50951810

oh cool, thank you. So I can RD d6, then move and run, then charge (with certain units/abillities).

Damn, Beastclaws sure ARE fast.

>>50950720
Anyone?

>>50952427
its a great box but i dont know what you are waiting as an answer knowing that you going to trade it

>>50951346
Like I said it was in the interest kg saving money, since I have to buy 2 boxes of guard either way I figured its better to use all of them, plus the eternal starboard looks great on paper. I know the army sicks against mortal wounds but that seems to be a problem for the faction as a whole

But I agree a priest would be super helpful. But a 4+ sucks (I roll poorly)

>>50952444
Mostly I don't whoever I trade it to to be like "Man, I traded him a great box (model/value/tabletop wise) and got this one..."

>>50952468
Just run 15 guard and don't buy the 2nd box. 15 is enough.

>>50952468
>But I agree a priest would be super helpful. But a 4+ sucks (I roll poorly)
Use Curse of Fates and Insight from a Skink Starseer.

>>50952472
the mortarch are essentials to death armies and squelettons are great.
Knight can be glued as hexwraith how are also a staple. if anything, by trading with the seraphon startcollecting, you'll get the worse deal

>>50952536
Huh, really? And how are skellies/Death Order compared to Seraphon on tabletop?

How many of you came to AOS because 40k is too bloated and unbalanced?

>>50952553
Seraphon are really good, its just that the SC seraphon only contains unit youll never use.
Check the 2 last thread for 30+ posts on that

>>50952591
A lot.

>>50952591
I did, mostly because of bloat and I liked the WHF setting but never invested into an army

40k's bloat is ridiculous and my friends and I have infinitely more fun your guys-ing it with 1k points aos shit

>>50950698
I say run the eng and if you don't like it swap to the teams, this way you get to atleast try out the magic phase

>>50952591
Stopped buying when it became Pay to win and lord of war fest.
Started AoS with Ironjaws. Never looked back, and wont until age of the emperor is a thing

>>50952486
I feel like splitting into 3x5 is a bad idea, would running 1x10 and 1x5 with ten warriors be decent?

I feel like seraphim have to invest heavily into their infantry for them to be good, otherwise they are just tax for the dinos

>>50952692
3x5 will be shot to death everytime (or can even be killed by impact hit from a stonehorn- and just outright disseaper aginst the auto 6 mortal wounds of thundertusk.

. I dont see how you can have any meaningful impact with 5 guys.

I have a Sylvaneth question. When placing a Wyldwood it often says that it can't be placed within 1" or 3" of another model; are pieces of terrain, "models"?

I've never been particularly sure and have played it both way. I know in the Slyvaneth allegiance abilities it explicitly calls out "any other piece of scenery".

>>50952611
Reading the one in the last thread. It's a good read. I don't expect to get into tourney's but my group already plays 40k at a casual-competitive level. So we play with SOME of our "tourney units". Like, I bust out my only Riptide every now and then in 1250 or above matches, or Stormsurge in our 4000pts per side 2v2's.
So, we like to use our strong tools, but understand when it's getting cheesy, so we restrain ourselves from getting TOO cheesy.

Would an SC Seraphon still be a decent box to pick up? Or is there a fair trade you'd think I could make?

>>50952692
>I feel like splitting into 3x5 is a bad idea, would running 1x10 and 1x5 with ten warriors be decent?
Yep that's usually how I do it. 10 models won't crumble to mortal wounds immediately and 200 points is not a huge investment for a powerful defensive unit.

Seraphon battleline are usually just a dino tax or a dino screen, but that's fine because the dinosaurs are amazing.

You can run a Bloodclaw Starhost to make Saurus Warriors/Knights/Guard very powerful but that list struggles because it spends a lot of points on melee, and Seraphon are pretty good at shooting.

>>50952728
>he doesn't know about the 2+ rerollable save that ignores rend -1

Guard are really good at what they do.

Were any of you ever in doubt or concerned about the future of AOS? Did any of you ever believe the haters or the WFB fan boys who burned their armies and swore to never buy GW again?

>>50953036
I sold my army out of rage.
Then i admitted that Aos is just much better, dont regret it tho, as my army was basically un-usable in AoS.

I believed it was going to fail for a bit.
Then came the seraphon and flesh eater and everybody was buying AoS.

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Leaders
Auric Runeson on Magmadroth (280)
- Wyrmslayer Javelins & Fyresteel Throwing Axes
- Artefact: Phoenix Stone

Grimwrath Berzerker (100)
- General
- Fyresteel Throwing Axe
- Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Obstinate Blade

Units
Vulkite Berzerkers x 5 (80)
- Handaxe & Slingshield
- Battleline
Vulkite Berzerkers x 5 (80)
- Handaxe & Slingshield
- Battleline

Auric Hearthguard x 15 (300)
- Magmapike
- Fyreslayer Battleline

War Machines
Gyrocopters (80)
Gyrocopters (80)

Total: 1000/1000

How did i do ? Facing mostly FEC, Sylvaneth and Space Marines.

>>50953180
The Gyrocopters are a good inclusion, gives you both speed and range.

Why did you make the Grimwrath Berzerker your general instead of the Runeson? The Runesons command ability making your charges more likely is very powerful for a bunch of slow melee units like Fyreslayers.

>>50953408
Because of the sweet +1 Attack from the general ability that combines well with the -1 rend from the Obstinate blade
Which makes the Grimwrath 5 Attacks at Rend -2 D3 damage which will help battle fury (and make the bonus much more valuable)

The magmadroth is fast enough, the auric hearthguard have brutal shooting, gyrocopter have awesome antihorde and glorious movement for dwarf...

I felt like the only units benefiting from the Runeson ability were my anvil/chaff/battelline tax in the form of the 2x5 berserkers.

I'm not trying to meme, I'm really sorry because I know people will be shits.

Do I put Scythes or Swords on my Kurnoth Hunters for Mele? I'm running units of 20 dryads as battle line, with tree revenants to fuck up stuff on my opponents table edge like artillery, with support in the form of Treelords and drycha. I've got ~12 tree kin too. I need to outfit 9 Kurnoth hunters.

>>50953735
scythes

>>50953735
Sword are mathematically 100% better.
however you can look at the 40 posts debating that in the 3 last thread if you want to dig further in that shithole

>>50953735
>>50953867
depends on how much you value the range.

>>50952591
I personally stopped 40k when almost every army took a LoW.
Considering 2017 is the year of change for 40k, i thought AoS would be the safer investment

>>50953867
>mathematically 100% better
But that doesn't matter. The reason that scythes are better can't be determined with equations, just by playing games and using empirical evidence.

>>50954013
You should value it highly.

It's worth much more than doing negligible more damage in a perfect scenario.

>>50945540
Before taxes famalamadingdong. But for obvious reasons we cannot access his tax records.

Leaders
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon (400)

Abhorrant Ghoul King (100)
- General
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
- Artefact: Tomb Blade

Crypt Ghast Courtier (80)

Crypt Haunter Courtier (120)

Units
Crypt Ghouls x 20 (200)
- Battleline

Crypt Ghouls x 10 (100)
- Battleline

Crypt Ghouls x 10 (100)
- Battleline

Crypt Horrors x 6 (280)

Crypt Horrors x 6 (280)

Behemoths
Terrorgheist (320)

Total: 1980/2000

What do you think about my list? I know that the GK on Zombie Dragon is not the most optimal choice but I love the model so fucking much that I have to include it.

>he hasn't rebased his old WHFB army onto round bases

Is there a tier list for AoS yet and is the gap in army performance as wide as 40k's?

>>50955152
No, and no

The only bad army is khorne bloodbound but it is improved massively by swapping in some khorne daemon units

>>50955152
you quit 40k because of imbalance and ask for the AoS tier list to pick the best army ? lol ?
Look for the bingo at the start of the thread to have an idea what is strong

complete newfag to games workshop here. I really appreciate anyone who doesn't sperg out on me here. What do I need to buy besides the get started box and paint/knife/glue ?
tyvm in advance.

>>50955209
Well it helps to know what you're playing.

>>50955226
Most likely seraphon. unless you guys don't recommenced it.

>>50955242
Another anon will probably help you out in terms of proper Seppy advice but i'll at least point you to here https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Age_of_Sigmar/Tactics/Edition_1.1/Seraphon
In regards to general hobbying though
>Do you like you army / how it plays on paper
>Do you have the paints for your scheme
>Tools 101 is usually: few brushes (big medium small), clippers, hobby knife, file - but i'd go one step further and pick up a pot of liquid green stuff (for any holes/gaps in your minis)
>Will you have a place to play your soon to be built army
There's probably more advice, but that's all i can think of atm

>>50955261
tyvm anon. reading now.

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How Napoleonic can I get with Freeguild? Is it in any way effective?

>>50955314
as much as you want, and yes its as effective as the guys in the other thread say it is

>>50955299
Oh yeah 1 last point - remember to pick up / download via the OP the General's Handbook.
It has all the point you need for Sigmar - don't want to buy loads of stuff and then they don't fit into an army

>>50955327
>guys
>s

>>50955314
You ca go full shooty, but everyone will call you a faggot and only pkay you to counter (and trash) you hard. Unbalanced list are usually unfun to play and play against. Also some consider a certain all shooty freeguild combo op, though people here said it's easily countered mulitiple times. I have never such a list and wouldn't play against/with it though, because it's just not what I expect from the game.

>>50955369
fit me irl fgt

>>50955381
no

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Taking bets - what new start collecting boxes are we going to see next year?

>>50956173
Well if there starting to talk about Humans moving back into the Realms, then Free Guild I guess? Hopefully some Dwarves as well.

>>50956173
Aelves and "Not Bretonnia Knights"
Maybe even a Death Battletome

>>50956173
Well, Arcanites and dorfs are sure bets, probabably some months after release.
Other than that, I can see elves, assuming their new stuff is released early enough in the year, and maybe something like Freeguild or Bonesplitters.

>>50956173
Start collecting Aelf
Start collecting HOOF FUCKERS

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>tfw Shadowblades have only two units
>tfw Malerion's release will focus on edgy Elf daemons rather than edgy Elf elves

>>50956682
Yes, well, Shadowblades are hardly the sort of force to suddenly branch out into mainline duty. Might as well ask why the Collegiate Arcane doesn't have any battleline troops.

>>50956215
How would a SC! Freeguilds actually look like?
3 Demigryphs, General on Gryphon, 10 Freeguild Guards?

>>50957127
I could see them putting pistoleers in instead of demigryphs, just to fuck with people.

Newcomer here. Never played any war games before. I have read through a few of the AoS novels though and love the lore.

Is it an ok strategy to say, over a year, collect 3 or 4 of the start collecting boxes? Will they suffice? I really like Storm casts, Sylvaneth, Ironjawz, and Nurgle - but don't want to limit myself to 1 Rmy or special day excessive amounts of one style.

Thoughts? Or is it better to invest in a singular army?

>>50957778

Please ignore my horrible phone spelling.

>>50957778
Honestly no.
You can, ofc, collecting models is part of the hobby but from a gameplay perspective you won't see any wins.

The first 2 factions CAN be played together in an army, and iirc there is a Stormcast + Sylvaneth battalion, the other 2 are seperate factions too
Focus on 1 faction, if they have a battletome, or one Alliance if you want a wider net of models to use

>>50957778
It is generally better to focus on one army for a while.
Most armies within one Grand Alliance don't synergize too well, so you are shooting yourself in the foot more often than not, assuming you want to combine those forces.
It also leads to the danger of having a whole bunch of unfinished projects lying about.
That said, the Start Collecting boxes are cheap enough, so, maybe pick two very different forces to get more of a feel for what kind of army you like? Stormcast, Ironjaws and Nurgle generally have comparable playstyles, so maybe that's not ideal.

>>50957861
>>50957962

Cheers.

>generally have comparable playstyles

Holy crap. This was a question I've been wanting to ask. Is there a way to easily discern how each army plays, without having to read an entire book?

I can never find Nurgle, Skeleton, Slaves to Darkness videos so I have no idea how they play. I just like how they look.

>>50958507
The tactics pages on 1d4chan are good for getting a quick idea, in my experience

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>>50956222
>bretonnia
>returning

I want to believe

>>50958847
We will see some form of Tomb Kings returning, since Death needs more factions. But Bretonnia is something I don't see happening.

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>>50958882
Are you doubting Kek's power?

So if i stick the Lord of Plagues' Rot on an enemy unit, does the unit itself have to roll a dice, or only the ones around it?

>>50959026
Units are considered to be in range of themselves, so, yes, it affects them as well.

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>>50959132
Excellent, thanks

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v1epu4d7cs

OUR EMPEROR HAS SPOKEN

>>50959394
...i.. I'll thin my paints Duncan-sempai