Furries on Roll20

>>50896236
> About to say "Stop playing Pathfinder"
> Remember that Volo's guide to monsters added khajiit and argonians.
Fuck.

>>50896236
Who gives a shit, really?

>>50896236
Here's an idea
How about you play tabletop with real people that you know

>>50896236
>who is stupid enough to let these people in their game?

A lot of DM's are attentionwhore or needlessly servile in an effort to keep/attract players, without realizing that the best way to get a good group is to be a total nazi.

Letting people play their special snowflake race/class or get away with not showing up is how you lose the kind of player you actually want in your group and end up with a bunch of awkward fucks that can't get a proper group.

Most online DMs should focus more on making sure everyone is on time and focused on the role-playing instead of goofing off or constantly making new characters.

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>>50896290
Found the furries.

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Why do furries feel the need to insert their fetish into everything? Instead of forcing your disgusting and cringeworthy catsona into a game of D&D go find some yiff-core game to play instead.

>>50896306
The one recommending playing with real people doesn't really fit the bill
>>50896325
I imagine on some level they probably think you playing with an elf is the same as them playing as a cat-man, but the real problem is the latter just doesn't really have a place in most games without derailing shit (and worse they rarely hide how much it's a sexual thing for them)

>>50896325
They're incredibly insecure about them, and by constantly bringing it up they think they're getting positive reinforcement when people don't reject them, while in reality the people around them are deeply unsettled but too polite to let it show.

Hahahah, look guys, I made a sexy fox character... again!

>Oh boy they are letting me play it, my peers are supportive of my fetishes.

Meanwhile, the moment they leave the room everyone goes
>jesus fuck why do we keep inviting him again?" Oh right, it's his basement.

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>>50896236
For a moment there I thought I was looking at a photo of myself, holy shit.

>>50896519
Yes, that's /tg/'s quarantine zone

>>50896277
Don't talk shit about lizardmen!

>I'll make my corpsechewing lizardman rogue one day goddamnit

>>50896302
This. 100 times this.
I am a GM in Roll20 and when I decide to do an Adventure Path my polizy is go full ultra nazi. Thanks to that I did manage to make an Iron Gods campaign become a very enjoyable experience.

>>50896585
I've been pretty lucky on that front. I've had one furry player but he thankfully fucked off when I didn't let him do his shit.

Overall I've had 2,5 that guys out of 30-ish Well technically 1 that guy and 2 guys that just didn't mix well with me.

Friendly reminder that the openly furry retards make it super easy for the rest of them to infiltrate your games because you assume that all of them are as bad as the worst of them.

>>50896656
If a furry doesn't tell anyone s/he's a furry, then no harm is done. Hell, they can even make furry characters in rpgs with no harm done as long as they aren't obvious that it's for fetish purposes.

And it is always painfully obvious when a character has been made for fetish purposes

>>50896531
One of /tg/'s quarantine zones.

>>50896236
You're telling me that the place made for people too autistic and unpleasant to interact with people in a real game is full of degenerates?

>>50896656
It's okay, I will just kick them out the moment they display even the slightest hint that they might be a furry.

>Long time ago...
>Doctorate candidate
>Looking for players among the postgraf community in my uni
>Meet this affable good looking woman.
>Master in asian studies
>Teaches japanese and english
>Offers me to join her group
>Healthy looking people who are also cultured
>The game they want me to join is Iron Claw/Jade Claw
>In my ignorance thought it was a bootleg Mouseguard or Redwall setting
(cont.)

>>50896865
>Slim good looking jap teavher reveals her PC
>Is an anthro canine noblewoman.
>Opera singer.
>I nod and smile
>She is morbidly obese, slobby and suffer of extreme aerophagia
>My loyalist senses are tingling
>Other players expose more casual characters
>Only exception is opposum thief
>"I am Scatman! " implied in its background.
>Play first session
>Everything seems find
(cont.)

>>50896236
I'm not sure how your experience is supposed to change so much just because you or another player is one sort of fantastical race instead of another.

If someone's being obnoxious about it or making it about getting their rocks off that would be the problem, not being hairy while also having a dumb animal face.

>>50896915
>The Emperor protects.
>Decide to do some research on jap teacher character's art.
>Find her profile on both F-list and FA
>Her fursona is black folf monarch
>Hard vore, slob, body weight gain.
>Is like a Nurglite had been converted to Slaanesh
>Invicto Imperator you know I am a virtuous man.
>Decide to drop the bomb next game session
(cont.)

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>>50896986
>>50896915
>>50896865

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>>50896865
>>50896915
>>50896986
I'm sure anon will deliver.

>>50896986
>Join the furfags on second session
>I decide to see how the game evolves.
>Things seem to be fair normal.
>Decide to not bring what I found
>Tell them that because of doctorate duties I csn't keep playing

Still today I am horrified about finding such dark secret from an apparent nice persons.

>>50896865
>>50896915
>>50896986
>>50897093

This is like a joke with no punchline.

>>50897093
You should have called her out on being a disgusting subhuman creature, to be quite honest.

>>50897093
wow thanks for nothing...

>>50897134
what do you mean? the punchlines is here:
>>50897047
>>50897087

>>50896236

Furries have enormously more of an online presence than they do face to face.

As for your second game, probably because Roll20 DMs are desperate and can't get enough people to host a real game.

>>50897134
>This is like a joke with no punchline.
That's exactly what I thought.

>I played with roleplayers who had weird fetishes
>then I quit
>the end

>>50896740
What are the others?

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>>50897093
Everyone has kinks, dude.

>>50897169
/qst/
All the fucking video game generals like the WoW, Elder Scrolls, and Shitstain 13 ones.
filename threads

>>50897193
M-m-muh ss13

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Furfag logic: "There's too much swearing in porn, there could be kids looking at this."

>>50897093
Not me
>>50896986
>Second game session.
>I printed some of the art.
>Hid them on my Pathfinder corebook
>The jap teacher and her boyfriend showed interest towards the idea of me GMing Rise of the Runelords
>Before session starts hand them the book
>Tell them the sheets are bookmarks to the gear chapter
>She goes pale when opens the book
>"What is the meaning of this? "
>"You don't recognize this as your fursonna?"
>She starts tearing
>Boyfriend is not around
>She almost haves a nervous breakdown explaining that is only a sexual fantasy that she only engages in fiction
>"And here. We. Go"
(cont.)

>>50897228
Makes me think of that one image filled with bizarre hentai textbox quotes

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Is it still furry if you play a genuinely cute and fuzzy mascot thing that brightens people's day just because?

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>>50897334
That is not furry.
As long as you never take the step too far, your existence will be tolerated by the imperium of man.

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>>50896865
>>50896915
>>50896986
>>50897238
Uh.
Um.
Well.
Sever all contact.

>>50897238
>Obliterate her phalacies
>Warn her that I have enough proof for make a call to the dean and put her on psychiatric supervision.
>The others are about to leave the room
>"Don't even dare to fucking leave! "
>Tell them that they will be also under investigation if I make that call.
>Boyfriend still not around
>She begs me to not make the denounce
>The other two also try to convince me
>" Delete all your porn in all your furry media accounts. If I see agaim anything slightly gore or dealing with scat on them I swear by Heisenberg I am going to drop the names and the art to the dean. I am not fucking kidding. I'll be watching every single day."
>The may be insane but realize I have them by the genitals
>After that day all these four now only commission tame and cute art of their character.
>I send them privates every day to remind them what happened that evening.

>>50897378
>phalacies
Good never happened.
Or is this that guy from before?

>>50897184
>Everyone has kinks, dude.

Yes, but not everyone is such a failure in life that they have to invent kinks that are so far removed from having a successful sexual relationship with an actual person that they can crawl up into their own little imaginary fucked up safespace with like-minded weirdos, or obsessively put tits on things from their hobby, just because that's the only thing they have going for them.

>Hnnng, ohyeah, my little ponies, nnnngggh, pikachu with boobs, awwwyeaaaahhhh talking cartoon animals fucking.

>>50897378
Whoa, sick dude, can't believe that actually happened.

Oh right, it didn't.

>>50897407
>whines about made up pretend shit
>on the pretend game section of a filipino stick trading mailing list

>All this Anime Smut.
>Half of /co/ that seems to pile in here.
>People into futa
>people into little-magical-girls
>How neck beards talks about women in general or act around them
>Abundant /tg/ cat-girl fetish. Or stuff like towregirls
...
>People into furries

Like... what fucking ever. What I will NEVER understand is why people give a shit over this more over other things.

>>50896325
It's an identity thing. Furries are just like bronies or /pol/ posters or WH40k fans. They have nothing else going for them, no other hobbies, and no other defining characteristics. Without that one thing they're obsessed with, they are nothing and they have nothing, so they try to force it into everything they talk about and everything they do. They look at the world through the lens of that thing.

>>50897449
tribalism.

>>50897449
The things that you mention are all equally objectionable.

But you don't see those people proudly labeling themselves "futies" or "pedos" and mentioning it in polite company like a bunch of crossfitters.

If they did, they'd get spat on just as much.

>>50897406
It didn't happen because I was a softie, even it was blatant that those people were mentally ill and teaching in a high education institution.
In a way I felt like the Van Helsing parody from that Polansky horror comedy. Could had stopped them before they earned reputation and contacts in the academic world. Now is too late.

>>50897378
that happened $200%

>>50897378
>AHAHAHA I'M SO DEVIOUS
>implying any dean is going to give a shit about their teachers weird fetishes as long as they don't bring them into the classroom

holy shit I know nothing on /tg/ is true but you went full retard

>>50897449
Here's what happens

>Anon A - Man furries are kind of obnoxious
>Anon B - Yeah sort of
>Anon C - THEY'RE ALL DEGENERATE FAGGOTS WHO BELONG ON A PYRE FUCKING FURFAGS I SWEAR TO CHRIST

>>50896236
Because...
*nudge*
*nudge*
*nuzzle*
*nuzzle*
...wanna yiffy? :3

ERP is still RP. It makes sense some would try their hand at it.

>>50897512
Maybe is some minor public university in which a degree haves the same value as toilet paper but Anon stated that this crazy bitch was into serious disturbed material which if made public could perfectly harm the reputation of the institution.
Psychiatric profiles are serious business.

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>>50897378

>>50897556
>Maybe is some minor public university
Slav detected.

Maybe in Russia being a furry professor will get you sent to the gulag.

>>50897452
That's not true in the slightest. I haven't had all that much experience with real life furries, but I've known plenty of 40K fans, bronies, and whatever you'd call real life /pol/acks, and many of them had their own hobbies and lives outside of whatever shared interest I met them through. Perhaps if you'd ventured out your front door more often, you'd meet people like that.

>>50897659
Then the furries, 40kids, bronies, and /pol/acks you've met have been much better and well-rounded people compared to the ones I've met.

>>50897681
He is lying Anon.
Sure he is now on F-chat's /tg/ channel.
Yes. There is a channel in the furry ERP Mecca.

>>50897093
Dude, you are a pussy. I almost prefer the retard anon alternate ending that the canon one.

>>50897695
god that channel's so full of fucking cancer, it's like they took everyone's high school image of what 4chan was and applied it to a room full of PAY ATTENTION TO ME tripfags

>>50897659
>>50897681
/pol/ itself is split between two factions
"Anything other than reading philosophy and non-fiction in your spare time is degenerate"
and
"Don't tread on my free time reeee"
So you're both about half right.

>>50897850
>Literally nazis getting invaded by libertarians

I still don't understand why this is so fucking funny to me.

>>50897871
It's a great time to be alive.

>>50897871
But how much do they hate each other?

I hope it's a lot.

>>50897578
>furry professor will get you sent to the gulag.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>50897695
No, I'm not. Have you ever considered the idea that people who like things that you don't like aren't all indefensible creeps? That mabye some of them are perhaps well-adjusted?

>>50896986
>Black furred folf monarch
>Slob, hyper fat and vore

Are you talking about Aurelina? She even haves a podcast.

>>50897905
>"roads reeeee" ancaps
>literal, unironic, national socialist "the holocaust didnt happen, but it should have" stormfags
I wonder.

>>50897951
Well adjusted my ass.
You can't be a real human and civilized citizen if you jerk off at gore porn about an anthropomorphic beimg consuming an innocent children and rejoicing about the act in the most insulting sadistic way possible.

>>50896244
fuck, that's some nice art. Sauce?

>>50897967
We won't need roads where we're going

>>50898013
>bitcoin will pave the way to the future

>>50898013
But if not roads, what will my gang of gasoline pirates drive on with our heavily modded murdermachines?

>>50896236
>Why the fuck are there so many?
Pathfinder.

>>50898034
>pirates
>not violating the NAP just to sustain yourself
pick one

>>50898039
James Jacobs is a furry. His fuesonna is a fat Tyrannosaur called Arceli or similar.

>>50897378
You mostly just sound like a cunt desu

>>50898058
For real?

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>>50897378
haha reminds me of me man smart nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor LUL xd

>>50898218
He even uses that specific dino as his avatar in the official forums.
And the name of the fursonna is Macrocelli.

>>50896302
Holy fucking this. Had one of my best groups split because of the DM always bending over backwards to let certain players play as their snowflakes.

>>50897578
It'll definitely get you sent to the gulag. Just like anything else you do.

>>50898218
For real
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/macroceli

>>50898385
Asking about the gulag? To the gulag with you.

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>>50897262
This one?

>>50898435
H-how l-lewd...

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>>50896519
>Played Pathfinder for years
>See what's up with the general
>Kill me
No wonder this board embraced 5e so fast.

>>50898417
Such is life is the Soviet Bloc

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>>50897987
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was talking to an unreasonable fuckwit. Acting like the minority of a certain group of people represents the entirety of the group is illogical. I'm not denying those people exist, becasue they do, I am denying that they are all the same. Of course, you're so blinded by your own biases that the whole concept of "logic" goes right out the window when your poor, poor feelings and worthless opinions come into play.

>>50898677
The general is absolute cancer. I hate it so much. I have learned much from it, as I don't have a ton of experience in TTRPG, but it's so full of fluffy tails trap shota shit.

>>50898808
He's just baiting you brony. Don't worry about it and just don't give him anymore (you)s.

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>>50898808
>Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was talking to an unreasonable fuckwit.
>Expecting a reasonable post on /tg/

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Danny devito is my fursona.

>>50897228

My body is ready for that sauce if you please

>>50898845
Do I have a setting for you...

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21201927/

>>50898862
what I can see in that crop looks rather like cub.

I'm not saying I'd judge the hell out of you for not caring, but I would judge the hell out of you for not caring

>>50898400
This proves there is an account with a fursona called Macroceli, but I'm not seeing a connection to JJ. Now, I'm not trying to defend him, I'm just trying to find solid evidence that links him with Macroceli. His avatar is a T-Rex, but it's not the same T-Rex as is on this profile.

>>50898808
Minority?
Fuck that noise!
You know how muvh people like shiguy09 or Dawmino do per month by commissions only?
If those were a minority he couldn't make a living but those deviants earn at least 2000 dollars with all their crap.

>>50899025
Commissions cost more than a nickel, unlike your mother's blowjobs.

>>50898895
Like cub? What the fuck does that mean?

>>50899118
but... that has nothing to do with his argument. like, at all.
do you have something that you want to talk about?

>>50899140
>>50899141

Cub is the furry version of loli

>>50899155

What the fuck? That's weird.

But yes, proceed to judge me. Hopefully I find the sauce before forgetting about it.

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>>50899208
>But yes, proceed to judge me.

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>Stage 0: Little to No Furries in Community, if there are furries, they are fully capable of realizing no one likes a fetish being shoved in their face and don't disclose their preferences to others in the community. Chances to go onto stage 1 is low.

>Stage 1: A few number of people openly identify as a furry, but refuse to try and spread out. Typically, no one cares and business goes on as usual. Chances of advancing to stage 2 is modest.

>Stage 2: More furries show up and start aggressively pushing their fursonas in an attempt to be 'accepted' for who they are. At this stage, they are not loud enough and are generally drowned out by people staying on topic. At this point, the chances of moving onto stages 3, 4, 5 are all but guaranteed. The Furry populations has essentially metastasized.

>Stage 3: Either the Furry population increases or an aggressive Furry gains a leadership position. At this point, regular people start to take notice and must decide between three actions: Push back, stay silent, or leave.

>Stage 4: We now get to the stage where either the aggressive furry population continues to grow OR enough of the regular population stay silent/leave. Their vacuum only permits the Aggressive Furry population to all but take over at this point. Regular folk who initially pushed back at this point start weighing in if pushing back is even worth it at this point.

>Stage 5: The Final Stage, at this point, the Furry population actually decreases as there are so many furries pushing their presence so aggressively, it's just white noise. This is the point of no return. Regular folk won't return because at this point, they've found somewhere else to gather and the population of Furries who are pushed out start heading to such gatherings to begin the cycle yet again.

I'm guessing roll20 is at Stage 3 or 4 by now.

>>50898862
>>50899208
https://e621.net/post/show/1089327/

I wouldn't judge you, anon My kemololi folder makes up a quarter of my loli folder

>>50899267
I'd say /pfg/ is at at lest 3 by now

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>>50897449
The difference between the furries people tend to complain about and most other fetishes is that they shove that shit into everything. It's essentially their whole identity. I don't give a fuck what anyone's fetish is, just keep that shit to your own community of people with your shared interest.

People would be disturbed by me going to the LGS wearing a collar that says SLUT and wearing a latex catsuit. People would be disturbed if I brought my character to a game and had it explicitly mentioned that she has a 8-inch cock that is poorly concealed by her skirt. Furries just don't realize that people at large do NOT want to know or be involved with your fetishes.

4chan and the internet in general have a more severe hatred of furries because they were more of a visible thing and didn't understand why they were being "persecuted," and proceeded to shit up everywhere they went trying to fight "oppression."

>>50899271

Thank you much, anon!

If I ever get to run the kemono heavy erp game I've always to run, I'll figure out a way to invite you.

>people equating catgirls and other types of monstergirls with furries
I hate /pfg/ and I still think you should fuck off.

>>50899267
Is it? Like, maybe I'm just not seeing it but the worst I've dealt with on roll20 was sjw bullshit.

>>50899340
just because anime """"""""""artists""""""""" don't know how to draw anything but human anatomy doesn't make monstergirls not furry.

>>50899118
>Misses the point
>Projecting

This is why nobody likes you diaper furs. Easily triggered and annoying as fuck.

>>50899331
>kemono heavy erp

I shouldn't want this but I really, really do.

>>50899350
I don't actually think it's that heavy on roll20, but I've only played Pathfinder there. I was in a game with 2 people from Stage 1. They would ERP with each other in whispers, and the only reason anybody found out was because one of the players had the same name as one of the characters, so a whisper was redirected to him. A friend was in a game with a few people who kept trying to get him on Discord or to ERP via whispers when he ran an old ratfolk. The problem was they wouldn't stop trying when told no, imo. I've had a bigger problem with people just trying to openly ERP, really.

>>50899331
Sorry but my only kemos are either married and faithful or chaste.

There's plenty of non annoying furries out there they're just quiet about it.

Some artists also just draw furry porn because they get paid out the nose for it like Accelo

>>50899585
Yeah, I think the real issue is loud communities of fetishists. There are those besides furries. Furries are just the poster child for this kind of behavior. Fluffy tails people are annoying as shit(pfg), and lolicons are also horrible. But the ones that are really prominent are the furries, so they get their share, and everybody else's.

>>50897378
And then the university clapped

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>>50898435
yes

I play in a game via roll20 with people that the DM met through gamefinder threads on /tg/.

A few weeks ago, a player had to miss a game because he was at a furry convention. It was the first session he'd missed, he's a great player, and I had no real indication he was a furry prior to his saying he was missing a game for a furry con.

The problem is that good players (and players who are bad in subtle ways) find games quickly, so the majority of people looking for a game are visibly terrible, and the most visible way to be terrible is to try to shove furry fetish shit in everything.

>>50899322
Then divide within. Like 90% of furries are dressing up because they like dressing up with no other agenda in mind. But then there is the creepy 10% that are loud. Much like people that watch cartoons in general the vast vast vast majority are not bronies. But jesus-shit are bronies loud and in your face.

>>50896236
is that Chris Ray gun?

>>50899340
Po-tay-toe
Po-tat-oh

You are a furfag. You even shove your shit into everything because you don't fap before posting.

>>50898894
Fucking beautiful

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>>50899518

I-Its' okay anon!

Have a happy new year, take care!

>>50899267
>stdh.txt

>>50899311
Where can I discuss pathfinder without dealing with kitsune obsessed weebos?

>>50900269
No where.

>>50899840
Most furries don't do any dress up shit

What's the cutoff for being a furry? Am I a furry if I just masturbate to the porn? Or is there another qualifier?

>>50900312
Depends who you ask.

>>50900269
You can try the Paizo forums, if you hate yourself.

>>50900312

You're in the safe zone as long as you don't adopt a 'fursona' or wear a fursuit or otherwise hide your powerlevel.

The problem with furries is that they take this character they roleplay as, and turn it into their entire online(and eventually IRL) identity.

It's like if one of us were like "No, I don't just play Blackleaf, level 5 rogue, I -AM- Blackleaf", and operated a blackleaf twitter.

>>50900370
What if you're building a fursuit but don't have or want a fursona and you don't get off to any kind of furry porn at all?

>>50896915
>She is morbidly obese, slobby and suffer of extreme aerophagia
Wasn't this min-maxing char-build points?

I remember skimming the one with the not-Slayers cover, and you could make a fat elderly quadriplegic then dump all those points into being the greatest wizard of all time.

>>50900356
God no, maybe I should just stick to talking with the group itself, we play good PF games.

>>50900416
lol, yeah. PF is best discussed with people you know are decent. Otherwise, you get Paizo forums and /pfg/. It kinda sucks, but fanbases often end up cesspools.

>>50900389
Is it for another person and/or are you getting paid for it?

>>50896236
Usually because
a) GM can't get enough players otherwise
b) GM is also furry
c) GM thinks furries are not so bad (read "is furry in denial")

>>50900456
Yes there is another person, but the suit is for me. No I'm not getting paid for it.

>>50896236
Like, what's the point that you would call it a problem? Where is the line?

>>50900459
Now that last point isn't always an indicator a furry in denial. It could be that they're misinformed.

>>50900496
Why the fuck do you want a fursuit

>>50900516
>Why the fuck do you want a fursuit
Wife and I started building it together as part of a costume. It's slow going but it's been a lot of fun so far.

>>50899267
How the hell does r20 have a community anyway? I use it as a platform for games I get together in other places, is there a forum I've never gone into? How bad is it?

>>50900609
There is a forum. https://app.roll20.net/forum/

The "Find A Group" section also has games up, and they tend to get the same applicants, so there's a bit of a community in that respect. I know the living campaigns tend to attract the same set of people, and are also run by players in other living campaigns, and most of them are incredibly shitty players/GMs.

>>50899840
I didn't believe that the 4chan stereotype of furry really existed, though years ago when the furry bashing was more in full swing I enjoyed the absurd stories as much as anything else.

About...six years ago or so I met one for real at a convention (not a furry one, just mixed nerd media and shit) and had to put up with their shit for like eight hours to be polite for someone else. They were the goddamned worst and insisted on playing their special skunk changeling fursona in an SR mission we did and tried to inject weird roleplay elements into our pink mohawk take on a run.

Now I'm a believer.

>>50900673
>The "Find A Group" section also has games up, and they tend to get the same applicants, so there's a bit of a community in that respect. I know the living campaigns tend to attract the same set of people, and are also run by players in other living campaigns, and most of them are incredibly shitty players/GMs.
Can you tell me a bit more? I've heard how garbage the living campaigns on another site I won't mention are, but never understood how they function or why they attract such shit tier people.

I've played with people I've met online since I was 19, and have one large group of online friends where most of my players come from and we all met through that shit as well as slowly adding the odd new person every few years. In all this time I've managed to only get one genuine disaster of a person through the random dips into 4chan and other gaming forums. Did I basically luck out? Or is it because we do normal style campaigns?

>>50900673
Oh Jesus, there's been a Community tab at the top of the page for how long now? I'm just a blind idiot apparently. I've never bothered to look any further than my list of games on there.

>>50900753
Okay, I've actually posted about my experiences in living campaigns on roll20 before in /pfg/. It's a bit of a doozy. So, the basic idea behind living campaigns is a 24/7 roleplay world. You make a character, enter the town/tavern/whatever, and you can roleplay with anybody who is available. This can be fun for people who are really into roleplaying, or people who keep odd hours, since it's online, so there's bound to be a player on despite you living on the other side of the goddamn planet. There are usually multiple GMs, so something can be run whenever one of them is online and willing to do whatever. It's a wonderful idea, though it tends to fail in practice.

The game requires multiple DEDICATED GMs. They need to be consistent, and able to communicate with each other, that way if there is an event or a storyline that will change things in town, everybody is on the same page. And if a player is denied something from one GM, they can't just go ask another GM.

They require large playerbases, since people get busy at certain times. There is no schedule, so you need lots of people to make sure things are constantly happening, or the game will go silent. When that happens, it's hard to get things started again, since few want to break the silence, or they'll pop in, see nothing is happening, and leave.

You need the right system, and people who know the system. To be honest, it works best as freeform, since many systems don't support day-to-day life really well, but everybody always tries to cram this into 3.PF

The problem for roll20 living campaigns is, if the GMs don't prune problem players, or the GMs are shitters themselves, or the GMs don't communicate, the whole thing falls apart. Most LC let in anybody because they constantly need players. The one I originally joined was pretty good, until the Game Creator wouldn't kick players who were identified as shitters. Only the GC can kick people from roll20 games.

>>50900923
Basically, there are multiple points of failure, and it all depends on the backbone and dedication of the GMs.

I can keep talking about a few of the failing points, or give specific examples of shitty players, if you want.

>>50900829
It's best used that way anyway. Find a group, then use it as a platform for maps and shit.

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>>50900923
>You need the right system, and people who know the system. To be honest, it works best as freeform, since many systems don't support day-to-day life really well, but everybody always tries to cram this into 3.PF

Clearly the proper system for a living campaign is Shadowrun. Because that is in no way going to collapse under the weight of the system or anything.

I hear there's two living SR campaigns on Reddit. This seems ill advised

>>50900944
>I can keep talking about a few of the failing points, or give specific examples of shitty players, if you want.
Honestly, I've been lucky as hell that since I got into online gaming I've had good games and groups. I was in an in person game back in high school but am shy and found it hard to get a new group in college so online play worked out well and I've been playing with some of these people for seven years or so now.

All the horror stories of people's online groups seem like they're made up to me save the time I got one horrible player in my very first stab at GMing when I was 20 and didn't have the experience to control them or backbone to kick them out.

>>50899340
If it's not human than it's furry you degenerate.

In fact, it's worse, because you're taking advantage of a gray area to shove your creepy fetishes into game, like a dude who describes a woman wearing thigh high boots in gross detail but claims "I'm doing it so you have a good mental picture."

Fuck off.

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>>50901050
That was meant to be an invite to talk a bit more, if it was unclear. I'm looking to add one more body to a game and was considering trying the r20 forum actually but am now reconsidering.

>>50897378
>Obliterate her phalacies

>I send them privates every day to remind them what happened that evening.

>Then the Marine got up from his seat approaches the furry and punches her in the face knocking her off the platform and out cold. The Marine simply went back to his seat.

>The furry came to, visibly shaken and asked the Marine, "What the heck did you do that for?!"

>The Marine said, "i meant to say... ill love you 5ever." (dat meen he luv her moar dan 4ever.)

>xxx~*...COMMENT DIS IF U CRY EVRY TIME...~*xxx

>>50901050
Well, I think a lot of the complaining is exaggerated for dramatic effect. I can say these people were horrible, though.

We have one player who showed up and made a Power Ranger in a typical fantasy setting. His name was Solar Shock and he was a clone of an 11 year-old kid who was locked in combat with an evil god in the "earth realm." He was sent to this world as a bounty hunter to get money to fund the school for "gifted youth" he ran in his realm. We had a Deadpool rip-off who actually named his character Alivepool. We had a player who only wanted to play their make-believe relationship with another character, and would actually get mad at people who built their characters competently. He would call us munchkins for being able to actually end an encounter, while he would run in front of the enemy attacks and nearly die. THEN we had the true deviants.

Player P boasted about being a sex addict. Player P made a Tiefling runaway slave who didn't understand society. He one day decided she went into heat, and he would follow around other people who were online and describe how his character was masturbating. People attempted to use stealth to get away. He would just move along with them, saying she just happened to be masturbating over there. He made a child who tried to initiate sex with other characters. When I became a GM for a time, I suggested the GC kick this player. He wouldn't do it. Eventually, the child "broke her curse" that allowed her to become an adult. This was likely because people would constantly tell him to fuck off with that pedo bullshit. So, after leveling, he used her powers to constantly interrupt other people's RP to try to make it about having sex with his character. It was dreadful.

Player B was just incredibly stupid. She would try to rules lawyer, but she didn't know the rules. She would try to get the GM to allow changes to the rules that would benefit her, while fighting common sense rulings.

>>50900269
Probably the same place you can talk about pokemon without dealing with waifufags or competitive autists.

Nowhere

>>50901235
>We had a Deadpool rip-off who actually named his character Alivepool.
That's so obviously bad it has to be a joke about how bad it was, right?

>>50901268
I mean, not for this player. He would make characters, get in trouble for breaking the rules, leave the game, make a new account, then do it again. It became a constant game to see who could catch him. He did things like make his first character friends with the head of a super powerful naval force, decide that one of his characters was possessed by a great evil out of the blue, and start spouting nonsense before getting shot down, grab a ton of 3pp shit that got his AC to something like 43 at level 2, and talk about how the character he was making was going to rape another person's character because she was an Aasimar. He even decided once that his animal companion was going out and bringing him random gear that he wanted, like guns and shit, when guns didn't even exist in the setting.

>>50896236
They couldn't find a game irl, so they went online.

>>50901064

I'm not the same person, but you looking for players for a game?

>>50901321
Oh man, this reminds me once of a guy who tried to join a Dark Heresy game I was in that tried to make a meme spouting 21st century media garbage scrounging cultist.

I wonder if this was the same person

>>50901406
Just one really. My group size right now is about where I'm comfortable with but one player is chronically unengaged due to real life shit they usually are dealing with. They're an old friend so I'm not about to boot them but would like another more attentive player at hand. If there's an L5R general up right now, let's move over there? If there isn't, I guess I'll go find the thread starter in the archives and start one.

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>>50901410
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Well, I would because none of them even know how they system they've been playing for over a year works.

>>50897378
>phalacies
I'm wondering what prompted you to spell it that way. Especially since you were pretending to be educated.

>>50901406
pour vous >>50901499

>>50901435

There's no L5R thread I can see.

Keep in mind, I'd have to learn the system, and am only available weekday nights.

Also, I'd be most interested if I could play some crazy Princess Mononoke hybrid forest spirit nonsense.

Am I the kind of player you'd want? If so, I'll keep an eye out for if you post game link!

>>50901437
>Well, I would because none of them even know how they system they've been playing for over a year works.
This sounds like a special kind of retard. I know that most people forget things, little steps in combat or how a subsytem interacts with another one or something, but most people get the basics down quickly enough even in the most annoying systems.

>>50896517
I'm so sorry that you look like that, Anon. You could always kill yourself.

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>Every group I've joined on roll20 the last 6 months have either been entirely furry or have at least 1 furry player keep shoving his Fursona
>Roll20 GMs have learned to live with it instead of tell them that they're outa here.

>>50901526
The game is every other week and on a week day night so that's not a problem. The latter is kind of not really what the game is about. Its about samurai doing terribly innacurate to real historical samurai shit.

Well I guess except for the part every 10 years or so in setting when everyone loses their minds and tries to usurp the Emperor I guess. But let's move L5R talk to the L5R thread to not shit up the thread about shitting on r20 furries.

>>50901564
One of my long term gaming friends is furry as shit and has never made a PC even close to his fursona, even in an Ironclaw game. Some of these people need to learn self control, fuck.

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>>50900459
>GM is also furry
This

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>>50901542
Oh dear, so the player trying to make the heal check is one of the highest level players in the game currently. It's Player B. The GM is the creator of the fucking game. Just... didn't know if you could do that with that skill. Okay, fine. But the player didn't know either! She just decided to declare she was going to do something.

Thing is, this happened all the time with her. And the creator would just accept that she could do it. Wouldn't check. Wouldn't ask questions. Would just nod and let her roll the dice.

Got lazy blurring names, I'm trying to spare some of the people since they weren't actually awful, ya see.

>>50901542
Actually, an even better example. A new player showed up and made a character. Died like an idiot, then was making a new character. Started asking basic questions, and I would link him to parts of the pfsrd that had answers. He asks me, in all seriousness, to summarize the rulebook for him. Said he didn't want to read all that. Told him to read it or don't play.

That's another aspect that I forgot to mention. In roll20, if you mark your game as newbie friendly, that means you're getting people who have never done this before. People who have not made the basic effort to read the fucking rules. There were a few players with learning disabilities, and I would gladly remind them of rules, or help with build stuff, since Pathfinder is a fucking trainwreck of trap options and is difficult to navigate with all of its supplements. But you don't get to just show up without reading ANY of the rules, and demand I spoon-feed you everything. NEVER PLAY A LIVING CAMPAIGN ON ROLL20.

>>50900269
Those guys are pretty much the only thing left pumping any money into Pathfinder, so pretty much nowhere outside of your own group
>>50901437
Some sort of white version of Static Shock?

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>>50901755
He was a kineticist of air, so an incredibly shitty white 11 year-old Static Shock, yeah. This is his art after battle. Notice the blood to show how super serious and mature he is.

Also, this 11 year-old character apparently had another character of legal age suck his dick in the bathhouse. This was after I left, but if I hadn't, that would surely have been a breaking point. I've actually got a buddy who is still in the game, and reports some of the stupid shit that is still going on. It's pretty fucking rough.

>>50896236
Anyone looking blindly for games on Roll20 is some sort of desperate degenerate. Now, maybe they're a "worse" sort of desperate degenerate than you are. I don't know you so that's possible. But it's the natural setting for furries and more so of course you're going to see them in higher quantities.

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>like the idea of playing a shapeshifter who is "something pretending to be human", because I want an excuse to play something that doesn't quite "get" people
>in most of the games I find, that race ends up being furry shit, or at least stuff that really attracts furries
>even if I ask to tone down or refluff the heinously furry parts of it, people already hate me because I asked about the race at all
>can't find groups that play with non-furshit shapeshifters somehow
>end up just playing humans or half-elves all the time

Is it so wrong to want something different

>>50901699
I'm not 100% sure what I'm seeing here. Either way trying to be creative with your turns is arguably a good thing, but making up uses for skills without asking the GM is pretty bad

>>50901783
>reports some of the stupid shit that is still going on. It's pretty fucking rough.

Don't just tease us like that, spill.

>>50901807
Whenever I want to play something with a more alien mindset the problem I have is there's usually a little too much of that already going on in the party already. There's kind of a thin line that comes with that sort of thing. Without enough strait men to bounce that shit off of it just turns into a roving band of monsters

>>50901807
Just play a changeling. Less furry, more fae

>>50901953
See: "can't find groups that play with non-furshit shapeshifters". Admittedly I'm still relatively new to actually playing TTRPGs, only been at it for... Three, four years?

>>50901751
>He asks me, in all seriousness, to summarize the rulebook for him.
Did they not know how long the player guide is or something? That's insane.

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>>50897452
>or WH40k fans. They have nothing else going for them, no other hobbies, and no other defining characteristics. Without that one thing they're obsessed with, they are nothing and they have nothing,
False. I'd still have the Iggles.

>>50901882
Well, he hasn't said anything recently, since he's on break from grad school, but most recently Player B actually stopped playing for a time. She was in a fight, and she AFK'd right when her character was dealt what would have been a lethal blow. They're using the Hero Point system, so she could burn a Hero Point to not die, or she could just die. The game was put on hold for 2 hours waiting for her to come back. One of the GMs decided it would be for the best to just burn the point to save her, since if she died, she wouldn't have the point anyway. They burned the point. 2 more hours go by, she shows up. Flips out because they used her Hero Point. Says they're all conspiring against her, and she doesn't feel safe. She didn't TELL anybody she was going AFK, by the way. She just left. A GM told her, "You can't just walk away when things aren't going your way," since it seemed like she AFK'd right when she was going to get BTFO, and hoped it would go away or something if she just came back when the GM had left. Either way, she left for like, ever. After that, things calmed down. Everybody ignores the Power Ranger, so he doesn't show up as much. All the good players either got busy IRL or left becuase the creator wouldn't kick the shitty players, so the game has been fairly dead. It might start up again after the holidays. Dunno. Besides the blowjob thing, all the dumb shit kinda runs together. I was tryin gto find my few screenshots he sent me, but I can't. They might be on my phone, though. The sex addict has his own living now. The Power Ranger runs one too. One of the 2 furry players has one, but she was actually a decent roleplayer, so I didn't join because it looked like shit and I didn't want to ruin the good memories I had of her.
>>50901988
I don't know. I really don't. He wanted to do backflips onto tables and shoot shit like Legolas, but he didn't want to read.

>>50901751
>. In roll20, if you mark your game as newbie friendly, that means you're getting people who have never done this before. People who have not made the basic effort to read the fucking rules.
Then why ever mark it as newbie friendly?

>>50902068
You probably just shouldn't unless you're a new GM and are really afraid of being called out or something

>>50902068
Because you're a moron, mostly. Same with marking it 18+. Doing it lets people filter, so you aren't a newbie trying to join a game of highly optimized killing machines, or you aren't a 5 year-old walking into furry fuckland, but it mostly backfires. Living campaigns do it so they can attract a wider audience, and for some of them, your ability to build something effective doesn't matter if all you're there to do is chat with other people in-character. >>50902090 has the gist of it.
>>50901882
There was also the 5-hour combat session. A group of drow were approaching, and this group was in the woods. The rogue, J, said they should wait in the woods until the enemy got closer, so they could strike. He was also the only one built any kind of effectively. Instead, while they were still like, 200 feet away, Solar Fucking Shock jumps out of the bushes and screams at them. They start to shoot at him, obviously. The party is all melee, so they've got literally nothing. They jump out the bushes, the anti-munchkin casts fog on J for... some reason. He now can't see! He walks out of the fog. Player B's stupid caster, M, starts summoning melee creatures. These last like, 8 rounds. They could feasibly make it to the enemy, but she just has them stand there. Solar flies to meet them. They cast Hold Person. He falls out of the sky. His Will Save at level 8 is literally -1. Eventually, the anti-munchkin buffs her dog companion and has it sit next to her. Everybody just kinda stands around until the enemy runs out of arrows and approaches. This works because the enemies are all CR 2-3 against characters that are all level 8+. Funnily enough, the players eventually AFK before the fight is even half over, and don't come back for days. The GM decides to just give them the experience and money.

>>50902051
This sounds so high school. I love it

>>50897134
>This is like a joke with no punchline.

No shit, he could have at least played Catan with them...

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>>50902211
This is why I would only suggest roll20 for its actual game functionality. The players are almost all terrible. I joined multiple living campaigns trying to recapture the feeling of the early days of the one I liked. All of them were horrible. One of the players got another one of the players to whip him up a swimsuit edition of his character, which he tried to use as character art for a while before enough people yelled at him to stop. The good thing is, I met 3 good players out of it, and one of them introduced me to her friend. (I actually met her here.) Now, we play a heavily homebrewed version of Pathfinder. We're disgustingly optimized and the roleplaying is some of the best I've experienced. So, sift through enough shit, and you might find something wonderful, I guess.

>>50901807
I did something like this with a kobold alchemist who was ashamed of being a kobold, and spent as much time in human form as possible.

Furries usually tend to be some of the biggest assholes you know. Someone else said it best in this thread. But it comes down to the fact that most of them are minorities in their own play groups or RL group of friends. So they tend to branch out into groups that have more people like them.

The issues with this is now the furry has an echo chamber to help grow their degeneracy. They'll never grow as players or actual functioning human beings because they'll always have people around them to reinforce their behaviors. The end result usually being alienation from anyone with a different view point or a kink that differs from their own. You unironically get kink shamed by the same people that want to fuck baby animals and everyone in their inner circle will flock to stick their dick.

Now mind you, this is coming from someone who was apart of that community and saw the dangers of being a part of it. You realize it's not about having friends with similar interests and sharing cute art. It's about justifying debauchery and total degeneracy of the highest value and it makes the actual, somewhat, normal people in the community leave in disgust.

>>50902051
>Says they're all conspiring against her, and she doesn't feel safe
What the shit, that's paranoid as hell

>>50897193
Tesg is decent now due to uesrpg 3e

>>50902469
Yeah. I dunno, she claims to have multiple disorders, and it might be true. I just don't know. That game is such a shitshow. Whenever I talk about it, it's somehwat amusing to remember, but then I just burn out remembering how horrible it all was. I liked a lot of the earlier players, then all these new people who only cared about glorifying their character showed up and ruined it. There were complex relationships and backstories that meshed. Some characters didn't like each other. Some characters played actually amusing pranks. Sometimes, you could just sit there all day reading what was happening with other characters, and be content. Then these people showed up. Constantly demanding encounters. Constantly talking about themselves. Constantly interrupting other people. You couldn't even read because there was nothing worth reading. It's just kinda sad. The format is kinda cool. You get to fight things now and then, your character design coming into itself as you level up. The stakes aren't so high that you have to spend everything on gear, so you can buy gifts for people, or buy a home or some shit. And you get to have these great improvised scenes. Hell, some people would cry when scenes they weren't even involved with got really emotional. We became friends OOC, messaging each other about our days and shit. Then the shitters came, and everything just went to shit. They were all snowflakes that had every disorder and knew everything about anything you talked about, only better than you could possibly know it. It was such cancer, and all the living games I joined after had the same symptoms. A bunch of new people, none following the rules. All just talking about their builds that were actually incredibly shit. All of them trying to one-up each other. Some of them incredibly stupid.

>>50897449
Furries made it into an identity

>>50902601
The real problem with it is how shamelessly out of place it is on /tg/. There's like a single homebrew project from years ago that nobody plays and nothing else. I just stay out of it, but it looks like it's just people asking the same hypothetical questions about the setting over and over. I assume the WoW one is pretty much the same

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>>50899322
>Furries just don't realize that people at large do NOT want to know or be involved with your fetishes.

You don't say...

>>50902719
knock yourself out >>50902014
But it's pretty much exactly what they're saying

>>50902733
I remember the story behind this was that the guy lost a bet of some type.

>>50902719
There's one or two people trying to enforce the "we must always play big-titty kitsune who want all the babies" meme at all times, usually by making awful OPs; half a dozen people just trying to actually talk about the game; and several dozen morons who always take the bait and circlejerk endlessly about how x player/race/class/whatever is the worse thing ever and should be banned.

>>50902719
It's all people wanting to push their anime shota trap kitsune sexdrones.

>>50902754
This is why I only bet money. I can't just go to work and get dignity back

>>50902719
>What's /pfg/ like right now?
same old, same old
>>50902083
>>50902443
>>50902730

>>50902769
Every once in a while someone will try to do it for the /5eg/ as well, but fortunately they have the good sense to just make a new thread when it has a fox girl or whatever bullshit as the OP

>>50902754
Who has a $2000 dollar fursuit laying around and uses it only for a bet. fishy

>oh this fursuit, yeah, its for a bet, and nothin else of course

>>50902816
See, when /pfg/ does it, the shitposters just repeatedly bump their shitty thread and force everyone to pick from either having two threads up at once or just giving up and dealing with the shitty OP image. Honestly, a shit OP image would be tolerable if you could actually discuss things other than "how thicc and fertile" your kitsune is.

Fuck, I like the idea of kitsune, solely because "muh shapeshifting animal" that a 3pp dev made, but between furries and shitposters I can't bring myself to use the race.

>>50902839
He was a furry, but he only wore it to class because of a bet.

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>>50897378
>phalacies
>this post
I don't believe it
I also don't believe you had actually enough evidence cause any problems for those people.
nor did you actually have the balls to do that

>>50902892
>See, when /pfg/ does it, the shitposters just repeatedly bump their shitty thread and force everyone to pick from either having two threads up at once or just giving up and dealing with the shitty OP image.
Why not start talking about mods and quests in the bad thread and hope to summon the autist that kept getting threads deleted.
I suppose it risks a ban if you're not careful though.

>>50903169
It's kinda frustrating. There was a time when we only had "First to marry a drow!" poster, and we could go on about our day. Now, we have fluffy tails poster, blinkling shota poster, people who hate 2hufag, 2hufag, and the people who hate the people who hate 2hufag. I tried to offer somebody advice and got completely drowned out by this group who were butthurt they didn't get into the Eastern-themed fluffy tails game hating on 2hu for getting in.

>>50896361
Is it really any worse than an elf? Probably depends on setting.

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>>50897449
things i don't see in my campaigns/players
>futa
>magical girls or pedo sht
>catgirls/momamo
What i do see people trying to push or inject is furry shit.
It's the same sort of degenerate feish bait but it's also a fucking identity for some fucking people.
so it combinds those sort of MUH self incert OC that has people play the same characters over and over (like one of my players who never shows up anymore since i told him to fuck off with that fucking furryshit, it doesn't fit in the universe).
The second part is reality MUST BEND to fit in those smelling fucking animal ocs.
Human only setting, but MUH DOGMAN
40k MUH ABHUMAN CAT IN A HUMAN REGIMENT.
CoC MUH NORMAL EVERYDAY BIRBMAN
>>How neck beards talks about women in general or act around them
What?
I ain't here to tell people what to think.
>neckbeards talk shit about woman.
I've got my stubble and god damnit i've never seen it. never EVER mistake /r9k/ for anything else.

>>50899322
>4chan and the internet in general have a more severe hatred of furries
I think it goes back to when most anons were form goons and it just kept up because of what you said.

>>50903267
Holy shit, thank you. Had a good laugh.

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>>50901699

>>50903296
Haven't played a game with
>All this Anime Smut.
>Any character clone from /co/
>Magical Girls
>Cat-girl

Fuck dude, have you even been on /tg/ either? Or is this your first day.

Post Disregarded.

>>50903169
It's frustrating and gets tedious to do it every single thread, so it's not worth the effort. It gets worse when the shitposting about something that's your fetish, because if you wanted to talk about your fetish you'd just go find a thread actually about that on a different board.

>>50903435
>>All this Anime Smut.
never said i didn't play a game without animu smut.
just not futa.
>Any character clone from /co/
never said i didn't see that either.
>magical girls
don't play any settings with that, and i've seen far more edgelords then that.
but i've found a nice group rut.
>cat-girls.
actually come to think of it i think i've seen one once back in highschool, It was only one session.
either way you're batting 1/4

>>50903216
Yeah, they were also spamming "brevity is wit" like it was a prayer uttered to a dying god.

>>50902628
Paragraph breaks, buddy. Makes it hard to read when shit is one breathless text wall.

>>50903296
I like playing things, occasionally they are sexy but we're a tight group and generally comfortable with eachother's interests, I'd never thrust my amazon lizard woman on a group of strangers, but with my bros, it's cool, and i'll never let myself repeat a player character, unless it was from a one off campaign and they'd never be seen again and even then I re-work them

>>50896236
>>50896325

>Edgy teenagers find 'furry' article on Encyclopedia Dramatica
>Decide to come on 4chan and look cool by posting anything they can 'hating' on a strawman that doesn't exist
>Go on /tg/ and make a shitty post only very weakly and tangentially related to traditional games
>"lol dude why r ther so many furrees on this website full of literal children of all shades? Y thy run everything LOL"

You need to be over 18 to use this website.

>>50903599
t. triggered furry

>>50903599
Furry found.

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>>50903591
I can dig that.
I'm just sick of "can i be a horseman" first time i met them

>>50903599
Oh wow, ED is still a thing?

>>50903623
>>50903651

>Shit up the board with low quality, pointless, bandwidth hogging shitposting thread
>"Dood furries so bad lmao"
>Literally singling out 'furry' people on roll20 when the entire website is filled with literal children, powergamers, anime edgelord faggots without roleplaying skills, etc.
>If you disagree with our pointless circlejerk nothing thread, you must be a furry! FOR TEH EMPEROR PURGE TEH FURRY XDDD

You must be over 18 years of age
to use
this
website
fuck off

>>50903656
Rule of thumb, first time player character should always be something vanilla to get your feet wet, I went human male fighter and loved the hell out of it, I was the best remembered of the campaign I think

>>50903590
Fair enough. I don't post often, I'll try to remember that.

>>50903666
Huh. I... just can't understand why they care so much.

>>50903666
Oh god, the 'tism HURTS

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>>50903732
>this nigga
anon this is why people hate your group

>>50903732

Lol go back to tumblr and cry more.

>>50903732
How did OP get your pic?

>>50903732
>t. triggered furry

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>>50903732
Wow this furfag got fucking triggered.

>>50902050
>tfw Giants fan
>Eli played like shit, but refs robbed us of the game against you fucks

>>50902050

The eagles have a really sexy mascot.

>>50903666
Read more of this, what the fuck is going on over there? Are they making another game? Did 2hu get into it, and now they're pissed because he got into it? They did this same shit last time, holy fuck. Just go find a game that doesn't have him, what is wrong with these people?

>>50903732
Go play Ironclaw and leave us alone. Then we can contain you all to your actually really well made how the fuck did furries make a decent system and setting shit system.

>>50904415
People aren't mad he's in a game. They're mad he applied to a game. Which is asinine and beyond petty.

>>50904449
He isn't even in it? Oh jeez, they're so ridiculous.

>>50904500
Like I said. It's asinine and petty, and the amount of posts wasted on it is beyond reasonable. Hell, I dislike the "2hu" guy greatly after I had the misfortune of talking directly to them, but I'm not going to waste people's time by making dozens and dozens of posts about it.

I just want to talk about game mechanics, not-fetish character ideas, and homebrew. Not how much one faggot hates this one player and how everyone else should care about how much they hate this one player.

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>>50903836
Based on >>50899267 's Furry Cancer chart, what is Tumblr and DeviantArt currently at?

>>50904591
Tumblr actually has a format that allows communities to only hang out among themselves without bothering most other people, so I don't think the chart applies. It has a BUNCH of absolutely retched communities, but you'll never even see them if you follow people who aren't part of the community. You might have a problem if you're a content producer, like an artist.

t. a guy with a tumblr devoted to RPG inspo art collection.

>>50904332
Not as badly as the refs robbed the Lions against the Cowshits
>That """"""missed"""""" blatant facemask resulting in a cowshit touchdown
>That late hit call on a tackle leading to another Cowshit TD

>>50904658
>>50904591
Yeah, I use tumblr to cultivate a circle of porn blogs and normal art stuff, but it keeps it all remarkably self contained.

>>50899267
>Stage 0: Little to No Weaboos in Community, if there are weebs, they are fully capable of realizing no one likes a fetish being shoved in their face and don't disclose their preferences to others in the community. Chances to go onto stage 1 is low.
>Stage 1: A few number of people openly identify as a weebs, but refuse to try and spread out. Typically, no one cares and business goes on as usual. Chances of advancing to stage 2 is modest.
>Stage 2: More weebs show up and start aggressively pushing their Mary Sues in an attempt to be 'accepted' for who they are. At this stage, they are not loud enough and are generally drowned out by people staying on topic. At this point, the chances of moving onto stages 3, 4, 5 are all but guaranteed. The Weaboo populations has essentially metastasized.
>Stage 3: Either the Weeaboo population increases or an aggressive weeb gains a leadership position. At this point, regular people start to take notice and must decide between three actions: Push back, stay silent, or leave.
>Stage 4: We now get to the stage where either the aggressive weeb population continues to grow OR enough of the regular population stay silent/leave. Their vacuum only permits the Aggressive weeb population to all but take over at this point. Regular folk who initially pushed back at this point start weighing in if pushing back is even worth it at this point.
>Stage 5: The Final Stage, at this point, the weeb population actually decreases as there are so many weebs pushing their presence so aggressively, it's just white noise. This is the point of no return. Regular folk won't return because at this point, they've found somewhere else to gather and the population of weebs who are pushed out start heading to such gatherings to begin the cycle yet again.

It works both ways you autists. Weeaboos are just as bad as furries.

>>50904842
t.Furry

>>50905309
t.Weeaboo

Cuts both ways, fucker.

>>50902752
Jesus Christ, this horrifying. For my sanity I believe those are sixteen-year old weeaboos who'll grow out of this shit eventually.

>>50905350
t.faggot

>>50905439
I mean yes, but that's not relevant here.

>>50904842
I agree in the case of legit weebs. Like those fuckers who refuse to play along in my European setting because the most curved sword they'll be able to get is a kriegsmesser or a saber and proceed to throw a fit when I won't let them play their loli kitsune 1000 yr. old little girl or when I say their katana can't cut a man in full plate in half.
You know, those "wanna be Japanese", aka weeaboos, aka not the random fucker that posted a random anime girl like what most of 4chan will have you believe.

tfw I use weeaboo furry art in my group, but I'm somehow the least worst.

>>50905815
Not that anon, but I think this is the deal:
It's weeaboo trash. It sets the tone for the rest of the thread, and starts arguments. It pushes the monstergirl waifu idea that lots of people in /pfg/ don't actually like.

>>50905932
>It pushes the monstergirl waifu idea that lots of people in /pfg/ don't actually like.
The reality is at this point, while I can't speak for everyone, I think it's generally assumed all that's really left in pathfinder generals is waifu trash. It it wasn't the majority or at least a large amount of the regular posters there I'd think there would be new threads or something when that sort of shit happens as opposed to it being the complete norm

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>>50897262

>>50906019
They're just too lazy to do anything about it.

I remember when /pfg/ would get split into three or even /four/ threads over this sort of thing. Now someone posts new thread the moment the prior thread hits bump limit and everyone just gives up.

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>This entire thread

Holy shit this is disgraceful

>>50896325
Selection bias

why would you notice a furry that didn't do those things

would you even know they were furries?

but fuck people who insert their fetishes in general or magical realms.

>>50902050
And I'd still have the Pack.

>>50906106
the ironic thing is that /tg/ is one of the furriest boards on this site behind /trash/ and /v/.
if you don't believe me go take a look at /pfg/, /ecg/ and that fucking kobold thread.

>>50898006

Trap sprung.

>>50904757
Stay mad, we the champs

>>50902050

As a fellow iggles fan, pack it up my friend. The birds aint going nowhere this year. Shame, because they started off great...

>>50906663
I'm in Atlanta, with a dad from Philly, and was raised for half my life in New Orleans. The fact the Falcons are doing best this year of my three mandatory team choices is like some weird dream.

>>50903732

Yo. It's not that deep.

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>>50896236
Because we are the DMs.
>>50896325
Because it gets immediate reactions.

>>50906334
/tg/ is more scaly than furry really.

>>50907718
Same difference. They both like anthro animals, and it often overlaps. /tg/ also likes gnolls and such.

>>50907798
>ikes gnolls
I don't see that often, perhaps it's because it only comes up on it's own threads but honestly i've seen less of it here then back when cripplechan was a thing because there was 3-4 fuckers who pushed it all the time
>liking hyena people
futa fuckers

>>50901059
Go to hell, you disgusting furfag. It is not 'grey' by any stretch. There is only one absolute: Furshit or not furshit.
You and the other retards who replied to me can go to hell.

>>50899340
because monstergirl enthusiasts don't consider themselves part of a group and do not make it part of their personality. Anybody who says otherwise is just trying to stir up shit.

>>50902050
Too bad the Eagles don't have anything.

HEYO! AMIRITE?

>>50907587
Classic furry attitude. This is what I was talking about earlier. Most, if not all, furries tend to act this way and it all comes back to the fact that they're outcasts in their everyday lives. So they tend to feel the need to act like they're shit doesn't stink and that they're a pleasure to be around. But more than likely, people like this well never change, nor will they likely improve themselves. So they end up becoming a That Guy to everyone they know that isn't a furry degenerate.

>>50896325
From a furry.... NOT ALL FURRY HAVE A FETISH.

I love animals. Yes. I love rping animals yes. But that doesnt mean its everywhere. Sone furries just like the fact that perhaps cats hear better.... and ya know... are better at balance. Hell a tibby.... werecat... wpukd be a great rogue cause cat like balance would be stellar! But so is a drow rogue... dark skin and all..... or a human... its about being something you cant be in real life.... so what if it has fur?

>>50896236
Stay mad, fuckface.

>>50909060
You may be able to deceive people that have never been apart of the culture. But I've lived and seen it. Furries like you are a minority in the community. 90% of it is surrounded by fetishists that love to envelope themselves with other degenerates in which to indulge their fantasies. It's mostly about sex and it goes south quickly.

>>50909147
The developers themselves are self indulgent fetishists and weebs, so it's really just a combination of monkey-see monkey-do, and the sunk cost fallacy keeping them from playing anything else.

>>50897378
Dude, who gives a fuck?

>>50909116
Funny thing, had two furries in my old gaming group and it took someone else bringing it up after months for it to become clear 'cause they were good at keeping power level suppressed.

Like, GM was saying "that lion-man race is still on offer, guys" and they were like "dude no I don't do that at the game table". Pretty cool guys, really.

>>50898034
>Not building roads using indentured labour who voluntarily and without aggression sold their contracts to you in exchange for food and water which you acquire through aggressive negotiations with the bandits over the other side of the valley.

Do you even ANCAP?

>>50909060
>>50909116
I used to hang around furries myself, you know, lonely, depressed, but furries and friendly and welcoming... which is great when you are lonely and want friends.

But i found the total hugboxyness to be so awful, anything goes, literally anything. You can never say "really, isn't that a little fucked up" because you instantly become the bad guy. No matter how awful something is, it's encouraged because nobody wants to be the bad guy.

On the flip side i think there a lot of furries on 4chan who've come to realise this and are usually torn between "Fucking. Morons" and a twinge to defend them.

>>50904591
>>50904658
>>50904789

The thing that makes Tumblr so bad also keeps it self-contained. Its entire set-up is almost purpose-built to allow for ideological bubbling; people who set up their own private circles that only ever overlap with other people who aggree with them. The social mechanisms also give people who are active and present within a community a highly traceable self, whereas those not present leave little behind when they go.

It almost automatically creates self-reinforcing, self-policed ocmmunities in which only those sharing an ideal exist. Given the human nature to attack the seen-but-variant, and the fact that only people who have almost identical ideas are in these spaces, over time any and all variance from a core idea is pruned through shaming or exile until it becomes impossible to distill further. The core ideal starts to shift now because without the stabilising influence of alternate ideas, even the most extreme ideas eventually normalise, requiring those who want more to push even harder to extremes.

This self-reinforced isolationis why Tumblr communities can be absolutely batshit fucking insane - but it also means that they are self-containing. The further divorced the bubble becomes from reality ( and the more unpleasant to those outside the bubble its members are), the harder it is for its members to ever leave the bubble.

>>50909286
And much like Myspace, it's designed to project "Identity"

>>50909199
Glad to hear you got some of the good ones. That's how it should be treated. If that were the regular attitude of the community I'd actually defend it as an alright group of people.
>>50909272
That has always been my experience. It's the idea that they're always around people that agree with them to confirm their biases. It's usually only when they have a majority of normal friends they tend to tame their degeneracy.

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>>50906231
>the Pack
pic related?

>>50902839
Making the suit could have been part of the bet

>>50896236
Probably people that would have the sense to hide their powerlevel from their real life friends. I'm a furry, but I keep that shit on the down low around real life friends. I have enough self awareness to realise it's fucking weird, and others shouldn't have to deal with it.

And no, i don't go around furfagging on roll20

>>50902839
>$2000 dollars
>real money

We're on /tg/, anon. People here have thrown more than $2k on Warhammer figurines, with rules so unplayable that they gave up trying after reading the rulebook.

>>50905604
Yeah, these threads have a bad habit of being hyperbolic. Frankly though, there's a large difference between liking an entertainment medium and being delusional about your own existence. The only time the two overlap is in the case of weeaboo's of the most harsh degree.

>>50909272
>You can never say "really, isn't that a little fucked up" because you instantly become the bad guy.
And this is a bad thing?

>>50909714
People spiral without intervention , from depression to fetishes

>>50909714
To put it simply, hug box mentality like that is cancer on a communal scale. If you are at the stage where you can't say anything to the contrary without becoming demonized, you are at the malign stage, and really just ought to leave.

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>Play the races within the lore/rulebook.
>You must be a furry anon! Stop inserting your fetish.

>>50901107
And that marine... was Albert Einstein.

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My view on this is this, furries are cancer but anthropomorphic characters are not.

'Furries" are generally assholes that try to insert anthro characters into everything, often in a fetishised way. Characters are made often for sexual purposes, with little to no actual personality. Obviously, this is terrible and tends to ruin games, so it is generally a bad idea to invite these kinds of "furries" to games.

But, anthropomorphic characters in a setting or party can actually be very interesting and rewarding. If using the core rulebooks, races like catfolk and lizardmen are most definitely anthropomorphic species, yet they are not inherently sexual or fetishedized. Even if not using the races from the core books, anthropomorphic races can be put into a world quite well, if not inherently sexual and if they have good lore behind them.

For example, in the campaign world I'm playing in right now it's about 25% humanoid races and 75% anthropomorphic races. Though, none of the races are inherently sexual and they have pages of backstory. It's a fun campaign and my character is a female wolf rouge, and she's a no-nonsense, not sexual at all badass. It's pretty fun, and the world is gritty and fun.

Generally I dislike "furries", but I do quite enjoy anthropomorphic characters.

>Inb4 ur a furry fag kill self

>>50911109
Howdoyoudofellowkids.jpg

>>50911109
>Muh Fursecution
>Being in denial
Yiff in hell, furfag.

>>50911137
Never said I don't like anthro pussy.

Just sayin' the game table isn't the place for it.

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>>50911130
Been playing D&D for 6 years and been on 4chan for 4, never been to /tg/ before I will admit.

>>50911164
>admitting to being degenerate
Fornicsate in the eternal pit of damnation, thou scurrilous masturbatory bestialist whoreson.

>>50911193
Go be degenerate elsewhere then, we don't take kindly to furfags round these parts.

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>>50911109
>Anthro is different from furry
First off, that's fucking retarded, and second off, if you have a majority of "Anthro" races in your setting, it most definitely is a fucking fetish. It doesn't matter how "non-sexual" it is, it's sexual.

Oh and, anthropomorphic beings only work if they're gods, and only if they're actually anthropomorphic, not furry. You know, like god beings humanized so that people can understand them?

>>50911212
All other RPG sites are literal cancer though, I'm running out of options here.

>>50911201
Everyone on this site is degenerate, Anon. At least I'm not into fucking 8 year old anime girls, if anything.

>>50911219
>What is lore
>What is the desire to have a setting that isn't racially like every other one for the last 6 fucking years

The Elder Scrolls Universe has khajiit and argonians, and they are placed very well into it. Just imagine Elder Scrolls, but with 8 argonian/khajiit races and 2 humanoid races. I don't see how that's a fetish whatsoever, it's a world that has different races than the usual fantasy world.

>>50911219
As much as I agree that having a setting that's majority anthro would raise red flags, I get the feeling it depends on what sort of anthro races you have.

Would a setting that has mantis-shrimpfolk, dung beetlefolk and the like be less bad than wolffolk and lionfolk?
Where do Reptilians lie on the scale, seeing as scalies are a thing. I'd say they get grandfathered in regardless, cause lizardmen are classic

>>50911219
What if I want to play something akin to the robin hood movie where Disney made him a fox? That make me gay now?

>>50911109
The only motherfuckers who would be interested in playing a game with a majority humanoid beast-folk setting are furries for whom it already *is* a fetish, so your point is moot.

Yiff in hell.

>>50911360
No, it just makes you a degenerate furfag.

>>50911256
Having a majority of furry races makes it a furry game. There is no if, and, or but about it

>>50911360
Yeah it does. Just play a regular Robin Hood you ass

>>50911331
Anything anthro that isn't disgusting/offensive to behold is pretty much furry. That's not to say 'muh werewolf is ugly to some but beautiful to others,' it's more like a wolf standing on two legs and snarling at you
>Inb4 "That's exactly what my setting with 8 different furry races is"

>>50911376
>>>/b/

>>50911401
>Yeah it does. Just play a regular Robin Hood you ass
But then it gets weird when I bite people.

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>>50911429
You are either a master baitsman, or the densest motherfucker in this thread. In either case, here's your (you).

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>>50911376
>"He wants to discuss somthing, quickly, insult him!"

/tg/ is quickly proving to be as cancerous and idiotic as every other site.

>>50911401
>Snake people
>Snake People With Feathers
>Animal People
>Shadow people that can look like a flat faced pantherish thing
>Humans
>Plant people

A very fetisheised furry game, obviously. Those races sound very easy to fuck and VERY sexualized.

Seriously though, the setting has around 80 pages of lore about all this shit, and it's all explained very well. I don't think that fact that it has anthro races automatically makes it some kinky sexual fetish game. That makes no sense.

>>50911448
Look m8, you've already admitted that you're into animal pussy. At this point, no matter how hard you argue that your setting is not connected to your fetish, the fact remains that the setting will only hold the interest of people who share that fetish. Whether you and your players use it for erotic roleplaying or not, your setting will only attract players who are furries.

>>50911447
God damn are your standards low.

>>50911376
>>50911401
What about mouse guard in general? Am I going to hell?

>>50911448
Maybe the reason why everywhere you go, people are "cancerous and idiotic" is because you're a furfag and everyone hates you?

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>>50911493
That is not the case at all though.

Yeah, I would count as a furry. So would my girlfriend, I guess.

But, the 4 others in the group are far from it. A militaryfag who is all rulenazi and prefers the original lore (He plays a feathered snake thing), an asexual teacher who I'm pretty sure is a sociopath. (He plays a human) A unemployed college student who actively bashes on the furry fandom (He plays a shadow panther thing) and some emo chick who dislikes most internet subcultures (She plays a normal snake thing)

Yes, I would count as a furry and so would my girl, but the other 4 are very far from it. Hell, most of them don't even know that we like anthros in a sexual way at all.

Point being, it does not only attract furries, it has mainly attracted non-furries actually.

>>50911534
Didn't even mention furries on Tumblr, quickly proved to be cancer.

Had an anthro character question thing on Order of the Stick, everyone quickly proved to be stupid.

Did not mention the word fur on Reddit, the cancer almost killed me.

So...no.

>>50911566
>Had an anthro character question thing on Order of the Stick, everyone quickly proved to be stupid.

Yeah that forum has an unfortunate set of rules that basically encourages being a passive aggressive dick until the person you are arguing with breaks the rules and gets infracted.

Being a furry I can agree that even if no sexual component is involved it is still an obsession/fixation even if only shown on aesthetics.

It can be done properly, but the closer you get to the division line, the harder to be subtle to the point of not triggering the fandom and it's counterpart. This can be actually be applied to most kinds of "autism"/degeneracy

>>50911676
This furfag gets it.

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>>50911676
Ok, you have a point. I do agree with you, it may be a fixation/obsession for some people, but I think the term "Fetish" is incorrect. Yes, I will admit my slight fixation with furry/anthro design makes me bring them into my games, but not a "fetish".

Random tangent, anthro design is so much more fun to draw than humanoid design, you can be so much more unique and use more vivid colors, markings and such without it looking as weird as it does on humanoids. The eyes are also fun, as you can use most colors and shapes and it can look pretty good. (As evidenced in pic related) Drawing those furry fucks never fails to make my artfag brain happy.

Regardless, you get it muh furnig.

>>50908443
>>50908567
If you're attracted to someone with animal features, you're a disgusting furfaggot on the same level as bronies or those guys who try to say "oh, she has a feminine penis though so it's not gay."

Protip: It is, so fuck off.