/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

>>50866341
Blessings to all in the names of Almsivi.

What is something that you would remove/change from the established Lore?

>>50866984
>Remove
Orcs. A pig child was scrounging though my trash the other day looking for something to eat. I barely missed it with an arrow. Now my neighbors won't stop giggling every time I walk by.

>>50865639
>orcs could be the anti mage fighters
They have 25% resist magic in Morrowind and Oblivion. They opted not to give Orcs a racial passive in Skyrim for some dumbfuck reason.

>>50866283
>That's not the same. If something is there in lore, but isn't portrayed in game, then that doesn't mean it isn't there. If something is stated to not exist in lore, and the game goes ahead and adds it, then there's conflict.
Why are you defending cuckthesda?

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Who is the Jesus Christ of Elder Scrolls?

>>50867486
Talos

>>50867486
Reman, definitely

>>50867486
Vivec

>>50867502
>>50867529
>>50867780
What is the reasoning behind your answers?

>>50867486
Lorkhan.

>>50867486
Ulfric

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>>50867486
Crassius Curio, praise be.

>>50867418
>>/r/the_donald

>>50866984
CHIM. Not even memeing, it's only used as a cheap deus ex machina (Cyrdoiilic jungles) and worldbuilding>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>esoteric metaphysics

I'd gladly give up CHIM, earthbones, c0da, kalpas, lyg etc. for better worldbuilding like concept art skyrim, better colovian/nibenese distinction, cool bretons etc.

>>50868886
>Bretons aren't already cool.

>>50866984
I'd get rid of all the physical(and ectoplasmic) manifestations of the Night Mother. I'd prefer if we could never be sure if Night Mother was an actual person or Mephala's douchebaggery. It adds a huge depth to Mephala's character and Morag Tong/DB rivalry.

>>50869002
But Night Mother is Vivec.

>>50866984
I'd bring back snow elves or at least expand on them more. Dawngaurd was an ok start, and you found the snow prince's spear in a morrowind sidequest but you mean to tell me that we don't have a single snow elf ruin in all of skyrim when cyrodiil was littered with aylied ruins?

>>50869553
But Vivec is Mephala famalam.

>>50869595
>you mean to tell me that we don't have a single snow elf ruin in all of skyrim when cyrodiil was littered with aylied ruins?
Falmer ruins all melted down.

>>50869595
Who said falmer lived in cities made of permanent architecture or in cities at all?

>>50869595
If it helps, folks at SHotNplan to implement falmer ruins either as rare stone structures in hidden valleys and at mountaintops, or as ice temples chiseled straight up inside glaciers and half-deteriorated.

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Is there a breed of Khajiit that can pass up as your stock chink catgirl/catboy?

And another question about cats. In "", Jobasha says that "[Tojay and Dagi] live in the south. In the Tenmar forest and the southern jungles and marshes."
But, isn't it a bit weird, considering Khajiit breed depends on its moonsign? Are Tojay and Dagi forsibly deported to South? Or they can only survive there? Or is there some another reason? Jobasha seems strangely secretive about these breeds, refusing to even describe how they look like.

>>50869857
>In "Interview With Three Booksellers", Jobasha says that
Whoops.

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>>50840238
>Argonian
>not Healer

Why are people here so obsessed with Vivec? He's dead, just accept it

>>50870062
HA

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>>50870062
>Why are people here so obsessed with Vivec?
CHIM

>>50870062
Who doesn't love the Warrior-Poet who gnaws on spears, shoves their Muatra into Azura's mouth and talks about CHIM?

>>50870183
>CHIM
It's a lie daedra told mortals to make them do what the daedra want

>>50868915
those niggas need to be fleshed out tho

>>50869619
I suppose this is acceptable, or that Ysgramor razed them all, but still it's weird to me.
>>50869624
This is also valid, yet it doesn't explain why they built a temple to Auri-El out of masonry etc. if they didn't also use permanent structures to live in. Also they were a god damn empire before the Night of Tears.

>>50869695
This sounds dope as fuck, and I look forward to it.

Going along with the Snow Elves, I wish the lore would provide more info about places like Atmora or Akavir. To my knowledge there's no representation of the Akiviri invaders of the 2E just remnants of their architecture. Would be cool to see an old stone mosaic or object.

Merry christmas /tgesg/!

>Vivec supposedly learned of CHIM after marrying and mating with the Daedric Prince Molag Bal

>>50870462
Thanks!

>>50870462
Merry Christmas to you too Seht!

>>50870462
Merry Christmas! Hope you and all the other UESRPG folks are having a good one!

>>50866341

Why isnt the elder scrolls lore thread on /v/, again?

Alright so I didn't get the response I was hoping for last thread (though thanks for the response, anon).

What's a playstyle that involves both magic and weapons that's unique and fitting for each race?

also Merry Christmas /tg/.

>>50870885
Because repeating the same ~4 questions over and over in a thread isn't very productive.
>what's chim?
>stormcloaks or imperials canon?
>is x the niggers of tes?
>who's telling the truth, saadia or kematu
>what's chim?
etc.

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Can someone tell me how one goes about becoming a wizard in TES, what are spellbooks? What are scrolls. And what are the metaphysical ramifications of magic

So are Bretons traitors to the Empire because they sacked Orsinium in the beginning of the Fourth Era, and orcs are citizens of the Empire and therefore they are attacking the Empire's own people?

>>50871028
By that logic everyone is a traitor.

>>50871058
Pretty sure Dunmer, Nords, and Imperials didn't sack Orsinium.

Bretons and Redguards did, but Hammerfell seceded from the Empire so Redguards are not members of the Empire. Argonians would have been traitors too but they seceded.

>>50871028

It's an internal matter between the provinces.

>>50868886
i agree with this, metaphysics are neat and ultimatley part of what makes TES deep, but more so than any of that it is the amazing worldbuilding and the art of morrowind and skyrims pre release concepts aswell as redguard.

CHIM isnt nearly as important as most people think it is.
The Amaranth is a core concept to the lore but at the same time i mostly apreciate this game for the world

>>50868915
No they arent. Ive seen this said by so many people but ultimatley they are french people in a setting so much more complex than they are.

And there have been so many attempts at making Bretons cool by multiple lorumites.
The thing is: Every time they try to make bretons cool they make em un-bretonic.

i think its time to retire the idea of bretons as a major race. Reachmen as a seperate race would be far more interresting than bretons, so would the bjoulsea people and the wood orcs.
High Rock is better seen as a provinces with no "Main" race but several small races that make it cool, Bretons are cool as a PART of High Rock, High Rock as "Breton Land" is not very cool.

>>50869986
Argonians should all be about Regenerating health, Tails, Limbs, Trees.

>>50871028
The Empire was a puppet of a foreign king tho, the akaviri potentate. It was pretty much a non thing.

Fan theory on why the Orcs have akaviri esque armor: The Orcs were recruited into the potentates Syffim (Akkaviri Warriors, the precursor to the fighters guild) because they were the most loyal to the potentate, having no loyalties to the previous empire as only the potentate gave them citizenship, which is why they adopted parts of Akaviri culture into their armor.

So which race would shitpost the most if they had 4chan?

>>50871086
>What is War of Bend'r-Mahk
>What is Arnesian War
>What is The Five Year War
>What is War of the Blue Divide
>What is The War of Betony
>What is Usurper's Invasion

Fucking Skyrim players and their utter lack of knowledge.

>>50870999
Could you answer these questions for me?

>>50870885
Because this exists: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pTgTN2aJUoY95JtquowagfUJLL7tCQYhzJKcCAcbvio/edit?usp=sharing

>>50871114

It's a shame TES is more video game than book focused. A few novels every year by a good team would be perfect.

>>50871114
>why the Orcs have akaviri esque armor
Akaviri != Japanese.
The only sources on what armor Akaviri used are a mention in PGE of Akaviri introducing Dragonscale armor and Blades armor in Oblivion, which looks more like a Lorica Segmentata than any Japanese armor.

>>50871114
>Retire Bretons as one of the main races.
9/10 b8.

>>50871221
If anything the Altmer are like the Japanese.

>yellow skin
>live on isles
>think they be better than other races
>famous for massacring a capital city

>>50871153
chim is experiencing the godhead. more is explained in previous threads better
we don't know until the next main series game. both are shit.
that's not how races work. all races are the niggers of tes if you really want an answer
neither and both, it's a shitty quest that instead of giving unclear answers and secrets purposefully makes the answers wrong and conflicting to force a grey area.

>>50871267
>X ES race is Y RL nation!
How about you fuck off. All ES races are eclectic as fuck.
Or at least they were until Beth started to flanderize the shit out of them.

>>50871134
Orcs would be litteral Shitposting.

Dunmer would be /pol/tards who fall for bait everytime.

>>50871114
Orcish armor looks like samurai armor because it's based on Altmeri design, n'wah.

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>>50871317
>implying /col/ isn't true /pol/
Fucking Libenese.

Hypothetical: Men never arrive on tamriel, or if they do, they only come as invading raiders and never establish full settlements. How different is tamriel?

>>50871315
>getting this worked up on a Korean puppet show forum

>>50871409
Altmer, Bosmer, Ayleid and Falmer undergo dracochrysalis and disappear.
Dwemer still fuck themselves up.
Dunmer still live in their ashhole.
Khajiits still get high.

>>50871312
One thing I didn't understood, did vivec become a god because of the heart or because of CHIM?

>>50871463
Yes.

>>50871486
>Yes.
So both?

>>50867486
Martin Septim.

>>50871134
Bosmer.

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>>50867486
Al-esh
The more you think about it the more it will make sense

>>50867486
Veloth

>>50871526
>sacrifices himself for the good of tamriel
>descended from a god (aldmeri dominion gtfo)
Yep, story checks out.

>>50871667
Talos is a fraud

>>50867105
the 25% resist magic is OP as fuck in Skyrim though.

Bretons get a free enchantment slot for min maxers, and the 25% resistance to frost, fire, and shock means they get 75% total. Nords and Dunmer only get 50%.

>>50871463
He rewrote his past so he was always a God but he first became a God through the heart. So it's both

>>50871114
>The Empire was a puppet of a foreign king tho, the akaviri potentate.
>In the Early Fourth Era.

50866536
No destruction?

Or is Destruction just that shitty without mods?

>>50871864

>>50866536
forgot this.

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>>50871001
Magic is science with your mind.

Basically spellbooks describe the processes and mental exercises to create the desired results (Silence describes a bit of this). You do this by drawing on magicka reserves that you get in your daily life.
Scrolls, I'm gonna guess, are paper already imbued with the magicka needed to cast the spell, as well as inscribed with said processes. In Morrowind you enchanted them, so evidently they are a kind of enchantment.

>>50871778
So he didn't actually achieve CHIM then? And why didn't almalexia and sotha sil do the same? If they lost their connection to the heart, did he become mortal again? Also, this kind of "cheating" seems stupid to me, it looks like he is more powerful thsn daedra, maybe because he lives in the mortal plane tho

>>50871905
Vivec achieved CHIM. CHIM is like lucid dreaming where you enforce your will upon the dream except he's not the dreamer, he's a part of the dream. There's no telling when he achieved it, but Almalexia and Sotha Sil didn't because Alma was freaking out about losing her divinity when the Heart was destroyed.

>>50871893
Speaking of Khajiit, can literally two housecat sized khajiit end up producing a giant ass tiger as a child?

Or funnier yet, wouldn't the moon cycle mean your siblings could end up being giant tigers, small housecats, or Bosmer-lookalikes?

>>50871893
>that pic
Such degeneracy!

>>50871797
eh, didnt read properly.
somehow i thought this was about the reman empire.

>>50871929
Yes

i think there was a lorebook about a khajiit riding his brother into battle.

>>50871905
Sotha Sil was too busy being a dweaboo playing with his toys to consider CHIM. Likewise Amalexia is needy and wants attention and love from her followers. But he achieved CHIM after the heart but then changed his past so it was something he had always done.

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>>50871929
>Or funnier yet, wouldn't the moon cycle mean your siblings could end up being giant tigers, small housecats, or Bosmer-lookalikes?

Yes actually. In Infernal City the main characters meet a khajiit woman, and she rides her brother as a steed.

>>50871931
You haven't seen the argonian disguisemaster who is in a weird relationship with a tsundere breton dominatrix who considers him a "pet" and a lover.
The Thieves Guild in ESO has some... interesting characters. It was generally good though.
And gave us canon animated armor entities.

>>50871114
>ultimatley they are french people in a setting so much more complex than they are.
this

>>50871953
>>50871963
So does that mean a humanoid khajiit fucking a tiger khajiit would be A-OK by Khajiit standards?

>>50872007
Best not to think about it.

>>50871001
>becoming a wizard
Depends on your race and province.
As an Altmer or Breton you'd have to try really hard not to become a wizard, or at least learn some form of magic. As a Nord, be a nerd, or at least learn to read. Your family will hate you and ship you off somewhere so you don't disgrace their ice-mining family name. Dunmer would be probably be slightly more difficult if you're outside the influence of Great House Telvanni, but even the Redoran have a use for enchanters. Orcs, Bosmer, and Argonians would train under the clan Shaman. Imperials would be easy if you live in a major city and can afford schooling. Good luck otherwise. Khajiit probably just smoke in the desert and learn mysticism naturally. Redguard I'm not sure. They don't like magic much that doesn't come from a sword.

>>50872007
Yes

>>50871962
>Sotha Sil was too busy being a dweaboo
Well, dwemers are awesome, can't argue with that

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>>50872076
And technically his later tech isn't dwemer, but pulls more straight magitek.

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>>50872007
You decide...

>>50872007
I'm sure there's a limit even to the degeneracy of the Khajiiti culture. I doubt an Alfiq being used like a fleshlight by any of the humanoid Khajiit would be thought as normal.

>>50872037
How common is armour for mages?

Would Imperials, Nords, and Orcs typically have battlemages rather than pure mages?

>>50872037
Alt. If you're a nord pay to chill with the Skal and learn dat old Shaman magiks.

>>50871963
Wait, ESO is actually doing weird, good lore?

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>>50871963
>canon
Dumb trainposter.

>>50872151
Mmm. Everything post launch in terms of content is usually actually quite good.

>>50872112
Imperials typically have Battlemages that wear heavy plate. I imagine it's easier to concentrate when you don't have to worry about a stray arrow hitting your lung. Nords would probably have lightly armored skirmisher mages who jump in, stab you with an icicle, then scream magic at you. Orcs would wear shit and furs and sit in their tents talking about how much they hate Bretons.
>>50872092
>not Vehk and Sil
Disappointed.

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>>50872175
I was doing Sil puns at this point.

>>50872151
There's loads of good bits coming up in ESO that should expand the Lore greatly. I'm very excited to see Clockwork City and based Sotha Sil

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>>50872200
I swear to fuck if they leave him as just a trial or a dungeon instead of a full zone I'm gonna be mad.

>>50872175
But orcs are the best smiths, and Gortwog does send shamans to attack you of you don't give him the Numidium key or whatever.

>>50872217
May as well get mad Trainwiz cause it's gonna happen. At least with Vvardenfell they've said it will be a zone

>>50872245
I'm not sure Vvardenfell and Sotha Sil are gonna be a single zone though. Vvardenfell's been pretty datamined and nothing indicates it's Seht, more Telvanni-Tong related stuff.
Sotha Sil opening up has been stated to be a big event too. Like the next chapter of the main quest and all that.

>>50872217
That model is cheaper to produce and retards still buy the dungeon packs, so you can start getting mad at those jews

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>>50872228
SHIT AND FURS

How come the fucking Breton judge let Gortwog have his duel for Orsinium earlier than scheduled? Did his dumbfuck cousin somehow believe the orc servant that it would have been a good idea?

>>50872151
What this guy says >>50872174

Colonel Sanders is friends with MK, which is why ESO now has Mananaut Goggles and centipedal herdbeasts

>>50872007
From how i understand it yes but i assume practicality plays a part. A Huge Phamar-Rath isnt gonna fuck an Alfiq, cause the Alfiq would be ded, also its not like Khajiit arent yiff bait enaugh.

>>50871963
>Infernal city
i forgot how good Keyes novel was in terms of weirdlore.
>>50872037
For nords its also a matter of tribe, some tribes will probably see magic as some form of shamanism, remember there are nords that dont even know of the empire.
But yeah generaly nords are superstitious as fuck.
Redguards dont like magic a lot, they distrust it, so probably go to High Rock and be a Wizard there, just like everyone else.
For Imperials: Be Nibenese, i gues colovians would also join an academy but mages are a nibenese thing.

>>50872163
I dislike the whole "canon" stuff too, but the other extreme, aka "muh c0da" posting thats common on reddit goes on my nerves. No, just because MK says there is no canon does nto mean that dwemer were literaly orcs.

Anyone have ESO on the PS4? I think it'd be comfy to have a guild with you lot.

>>50872262
Sotha Sil will either be its own thing or tied into the Thornmarch Zone.

The clockwork city is not actually on Vvardenfell afterall. I think Vvardenfell will come at Morrowinds anniversary and will try to cash in on nostalgia feels.
They better not fuck this up. Either way that game hasnt done lore stuff for a while, so its about time.

Clockwork city supposedly ties into the main story tho which will lead to mephalas realm. It could be that this is a "Story" DLC where Clockwork City is a quest rather than a Zone.

>>50872280
>A Huge Phamar-Rath isnt gonna fuck an Alfiq
Not with that attitude.

Also, atrificial insemination is a thing in feline husbandry.

>>50872286
>console
eww

>>50872280
/r/teslore is a fucking cesspool, the hell did you expect.

>>50872337
I'm upgrading to the pc master race soon pls no bully.

>>50872337
I use my fiancee's account on the PS4 but I haven't been on it much at all (max level is like 9 or 10. I yend to focus on PC but even then it's been slow going for me (level 22 max).

Nice /vg/ discussion n'wahs.

>>50872389
Sorry, you're right

>>50872280
>just because MK says there is no canon does nto mean that dwemer were literaly orcs.

Dworcs are actually cool. They're not orcs that were dwemer, they're basically orcs that, living in or near dwemer ruins, adopted their mannerisms

http://ladynerevar.tumblr.com/post/129091920255/perhaps-tired-of-moving-from-one-attempt-at

>>50872451
Is Lady Nerevar the Lady N that pops up on some eso Lore sites ? Who is she?

>>50872499
MK's wife

>>50872451
im not actually refering to this but to some other stupdi theroy that built on the "Dumac Dwarf-Orc" idea.

But im just generaly not a fan of the idea that inernal consistency isnt important, it is.

Those Dorf orcs are fairly cool tho, i like the idea.
it certainly makes sense for orcs to admite the dwemer, afterall they were peerless metalcrafters and were some form of outcast.

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>>50872499
MK's wife, did some concept art for both some TES stuff and Nanosteam, and she's one of their community managers.

>>50871864
nah i just use the spells necessary to kill spell casters. fight fire with fire but only with the bare minimum

>>50872518
How's Nanosteam going, btw?

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>>50872576
After much deliberation, we finally just switched to Unity. I'm one of the few individuals in existence who apparently knows how to use and optimize it properly, and frankly I was sick of struggling with other engines.

Hey, I'm running an ES campaign for my group, set in Valenwood. What could some interesting plotpoints be, and what should I focus on to make it an interesting campaign?

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So. If you had to go live on Tamriel, what time and place would you faggots choose?
>HARD MODE
You have to belong to the majority race of your chosen home
>NIGHTMARE MODE
You have no same magic-using ability. Even if you're an Altmer.

>>50872606
Nice, was the switch very painful? What other engines? I thought you were building it pretty much from scratch...

>>50872518
>>50872576
What's Nanosteam?

>>50872676
Trainboy's own game

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>>50872654
>Nice, was the switch very painful?

not really. I had used Unity for a lot of quick mockups of systems, so a lot of the stuff I spent years programming were recreated in about a day. Another reason it was used. No more strugglings and pains.
We considered CryEngine and even had funding from them at one point. But... no. CryEngine is pain.
Honestly half of this stuff just makes me appreciate the CK more. It is a lot better tool than people give it credit for.

>>50872642
>If you had to go live on Tamriel, what time and place would you faggots choose?
3E High Rock
>HARD MODE
3E High Rock
>NIGHTMARE MODE
3E High Rock

>>50872731

Enjoy ur constant strife and early death by poisoning.

>>50872727
I'm glad to hear that, I hope you can find time for it

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>>50872806
So do I.

>>50872806
Specially considering he's not involved with not Hammerfell

>>50872621
Emphasize how alien (to us) the Bosmer culture is. Make sure your read up on the Green Pact if you haven't already. As for plot points, that depends on when it takes place. I think a political intrigue plot about the Thalmor coup/takeover could be pretty cool if done properly. But that might not fit the tone you're after.

>>50872621
Camoran Usurper + Wild Hunt

>>50872831
You'd think there would be a non-compete clause somewhere in his contract.

>>50872642
honestly Morrowind is a fairly comfy place if youre on the mainland, just disregard the terrible food.
Cyrodiil would probably still be the comfiest since its pretty modern overall and thus i wouldnt have to change my lazy lifestyle too much.
Id love to see blackmarch, but i wouldnt ever want to go there.

>>50872988

You can be a saxeel from black marsh if you want to explore it so badly. Morrowind is pretty comfy, apart from the blight storms and the assassins, what house would you try to join?

>>50872783
>early death by poisoning
Who would want to poison a lowly Breton stable boy? Which is likely what that anon would be.

Personally I'd choose the pale, because owning a cozy cabin seems pretty alright.

>>50872642
>NORMAL MODE
4E 201, Riverwood. I'm a pleb like that.

>HARD MODE
Still Riverwood. Nords are neat I guess.

>NIGHTMARE MODE
What part of "I am a pleb" did you not understand.

>>50873021

Some Breton peasant who has his eyes on the comfy life of a stableboy...

Poisoning one another is a national pasttime for Bretons.

The Pale might be nice actually, Dawnstar is my favorite Syrim city and as a Nord you wouldn't be in danger of freezing to death.

>>50873035

You have the whole of Tamriel and you choose Generic Village #347? At least pick an interesting part of Skyrimrob.

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>>50872988
>just disregard the terrible food

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>>50872727
>We considered CryEngine and even had funding from them at one point. But... no. CryEngine is pain.
That's hilarious. Chris Roberts, his crack team of SWAT programmers aided by every engineer at Crytek and funded with half the money in the entire world still can't manage to make that engine work for a space game. Its fair to say you probably didn't have much of a chance.

>>50873086
I'm amazed Roberts is getting as far as he did. It's a beautiful engine but it's a nightmare to work with. Then again they've pretty much had to rewrite the entire thing from the ground up, people don't even call it CryEngine anymore.

>>50873065
>>what part of "I am a pleb" do you not understand?

If I picked anywhere interesting, I'd be dead in a WEEK instead of a MONTH. Winterhold'd be interesting, as would Windhelm, but oh boy would I be a casualty faster than you could say "there's a murderhobo Dragonborn behind you."

I give myself all of a DAY if I pick, say, Hammerfell or Elsweyr.

tl;dr I don't like my odds.

>>50869604
Therefore, Mephala is the Night Mother

Alright guys, how do you think Bethesda would fuck up the lore if TES6 took place in:
>Orsinium
>Valenwood
>Black Marsh
>Elsweyr
>Hammerfell
>Summerset Isles

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>>50872988
>terrible food.
I imagine a lot of it would be fairly bland if you're a plebian, but decent dishes made by someone who knows spices other than ash would taste delicious. I imagine it would be similar to Japanese or Chinese dishes, just spicy and salty. Plus canis root tea with comberries.

>>50872337
>>50872365
Isn't ESO cross-platfrom?
>>50872286
It's been some tome since I played, but I would gladly come back to lay with you guys. Especially since I never really played with any organised group, usually did everything I could solo.

So is Santa Claus actually an oversoul of the men Chris Kringle and St. Nicholas?

>>50873655
>Orsinium
You wouldn't be sacking it
>Valenwood
Not enough weird creatures, no penalty for picking plants for alchemy/food, no tree climbing, no moving trees.
>Black Marsh
Not enough weird creatures, no crazy root travelling, not constantly getting diseases from all the bugs and shit in the water
>Elsweyr
LOL MEME CATS EHKSDEE
>Hammerfell
No crazy sword magic, no sailing, lack of ceramic armor
>Summerset Isles
No houses made of glass and magic, dumb as fuck armor, full Nazi Germany upper class

>>50873687
>Isn't ESO cross-platfrom?
It's on the PS4, PC and Xbox One but you can't play with the others, only on the station of your choice. PC is best because it has the largest community as well as some more mods (nothing that can truly break the game but things like HUD modifications and such) as well as (depending on PC specs) the highest resolution overall.

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>>50873809
>>Black Marsh
Forgot to add
>no spears
STILL MAD
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>>50873809
>You wouldn't be sacking it
FUCKING BRETONS GET OUT OF MY CITY REEEEEEEEEE

>>50873836
Yeah I know, I meant isn't it cross-platfrom like you can play on pc with someone who's playing on a ps4. Some games have that and I thought they announced it for ESO, but I might remember it wrongly.

>>50873655
Listen we all know what it's going to be!

___Akavir___

>>50873974
Nope, PS4 has their own servers, Xbox One does and PC. No teaming up cross-platform at all.

>>50873655
>Orsinium
Make it too big (yeah right), have Gortwog still alive, make Orcs caricatures of themselves

>Valenwood
No moving tree city (like ESO), ignore the green pact, make it tame and LOTR-like like they did with Cyrodiil, make you some ultra powerful Mary Sue that can go in an out of Wild Hunt Mode

>Black Marsh
Can't be too harsh like saying you can't play as Non-Argonians (I guess give them Nerevarine type resist disease and poison stuff, No different subspecies of Argonians, no underground tunnel with clear worms, no changing landscape due to floods, they keep shadowscales, no lusty argonian maids

>Elsweyr
No subspecies of Khajiit, the moons don't play an important role, you have to be the Mane even if you're not a catman, you don't see negative effects of skooma and moon sugar addiction

>Hammerfell,
No mention of the Far Shores or Yokudan Pantheon, No Ebonarm stuff, you become the last sword singer

>Summerset Isle
Thalmor are le evul nazis without exploring their philosophy in a neutral or good light, too small, no new Maomer info, no psijic stuff, Mannimarco comes back again and is still a pussy, you meet Auriel and/or Lorkhan at Adamantine Tower to prevent a new Dawn or destruction of Mundus

>>50873977
Do you think since the Thalmor are the fantasy Nazis and even have their own camps that Bethesda will make the Akaviri do a fantasy Nanking or Unit 731?

>>50874001
I would pay to see it.

>>50869695
>SHotN
???

>>50872642
3E Cyrodiil for all three

Easy mode, might explore the other provinces a little tho (Besides Black Marsh cause I'd fucking die)

>>50869857
>Is there a breed of Khajiit that can pass up as your stock chink catgirl/catboy?
Yeah, I forget the exact name but they're in Arena and Daggerfall.

What would your dream elder scrolls be?

>>50874001
>Akaviri do a fantasy Nanking
They tried but Vivec cast water breathing on all the Dunmer, then raised the sea and drowned the invaders.

>>50870342
>This is also valid, yet it doesn't explain why they built a temple to Auri-El out of masonry etc. if they didn't also use permanent structures to live in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
Permanent religious structures far outdate permanent residential structures, especially since they were also administrative centers.

>>50874053

TES Akavir. Only done by Obsidian, not Beth$$$oft.

>>50874053
Remake of Daggerfall with updated graphics, more variety in guild and main story quests and fewer bugs but generally same gameplay. Well, combat could be a little better but that is a nitpick.

>>50870263
Right?

>>50874111
Plus playable orcs, so we can help make Orsinium great again.

>>50870335
The Daedra are our ancestors! They taught Vivec the Walking Ways.

>>50874132
>again

Would people be mad if the tech level in tamriel increased? How would industrialization effect the world of the elder scrolls. What about the Information Age?

>>50874154

I don't think even the Velothi or Tribunal Temple claimed daedric ancestors, just patrons.

>>50874159

Industrialisation wouldn't work because TES doesn't have any physics, just mythopoeic forces that provide the illusion of physics. That said, TES has had an ultra high tech era, during the reign of Reman the Empire colonised Masser and Secunda using spaceships (giant moths).

>>50874132
>again

>>50874159
>Information Age?
We're basically there already. Long range magical communication and teleportation. The only thing we're lacking is a safe and reliable way to access all knowledge that doesn't involve Hermaeus "Give me your soul in exchange for a book" Mora

>>50869857
Ohmes most likely. Maybe Ohmes-raht

>>50874159
Apparently the tech keeps increasing and then getting dumped back to the stone age inbetween games.
I very much doubt Bethesda would ever have the guts to set an entry where people aren't still shitting in the woods and hitting each other with swords.

>>50874209
You mean you're not hooked up to the Herma-Net yet? What, stuck in the Third Era, n'wah?

>>50874030
Skyrim: Home of the Nords
Basically, Skyrim done right.

>>50874156
>>again
>>50874204
>>again

>>50874238
Supposedly, Ohmes are Arena Khajiits and Ohmes-raht are Oblivion ones.
Not really the exact fit.

>>50874159
>Dwemertech
>First Empire's time traveling robots
>Second Empire's space Race

TES is a post apocaliptic setting
with Talos being the apocalypse

>>50874254
>wanting a tentacle monster to know your every thought
>wanting said tentacle monster to sell your private thoughts to jewscamps so they can try and sell you shit
No thanks

>>50874300
Closest I could find. Ohmes have no tail (or none that is discernible through clothes but the Ohmes-Raht do but they are also taller and a little heavier built. The Ohmes are noted for painting/tattooing their faces with more cat-like features so they fit in more but they are also the most wide-spread traders due to them looking more mer-like than the more cat-like varieties.

>>50874271
Skyrim was the best game in the series

>>50874359

Protip: The tentacle monster already knows your thoughts.

>>50874359
What are you talking about? I installed a Zenithar temple approved ad-blocker and run myself through multi-planes proxies.

>>50874359
To add on
>wanting some sload hacker to steal your soul through a kalpa chat room?
Thanks, but no.

>>50874405
>trusting a dead god over a living demon

Good luck with that.

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>>50874381
Do you often find yourself rubbing against Orcs, perchance? It's still a stretch, but could possibly explain such level of shit taste.

>>50874449
>not wanting a thicc orc waifu
>not wanting a muscular manly orc husbando

I mean I agree that Skyrim wasn't the best but orcs are amazing husbandos or waifus.

>>50874436
What would the equivalent of a "Nigerian Prince" scam be on Tamriel's Net?

Also

"This motherfucker grew his Muatra by 3 inches in just 3 weeks! Bitches be exploding all over it! Click to find out more!"

>>50874490
>thicc orc waifu
>25 Personality
>FUCKING 25

>>50874566
>hello I am the yokudian prince responsible for hoding I need to borrow your septims to reestablish my rightful rule

>>50874585
hey it was good enough for the Grey Prince's father, it's good enough for most of 4chan who probably has negative personality.

>>50874490
>orcs are amazing husbandos or waifus.
>wanting a waifu who smells like shit, has a pig face, is inbred, and can't read over a qt wizard dunmer girl
Literally SHIT taste N'wah

>>50874645
>>50874490
>Not wanting a qt 3.14 breton spellsword

>>50874645
>qt wizard dunmer girl
Enjoy your blight STDs and chain smoker voice.

>>50874645
>smells like shit
Nigga have you been to Skyrim? Everybody's fucking dirty as shit. Morrowind era of lol sharp edges, Oblivion is potato era.
>pig face
In the era of Oblivion with the potato faces maybe. Not in Skyrim.
>is inbred
No they give the women to other chieftains to avoid that shit.
>can't read
Gortwog, Urag, The Gourmet can all read fine. Hell when you kill the Orc Bard his pops writes a thank you letter cause he hated him so much.

>>50874686
>not wanting an amazon orc battlemage
Breton girls are top tier though.

>>50872505
I've been seeing her for a while, was she always MK's wife or did they meet through TES lore?

>>50874194
The dwemer had tech too

>>50873994
There is no good light of thalmor.

>>50874566
Pyandonean prince.
He can give you gold from King Orgnum's coffer he just needs an initial donation.

>>50873809
>no moving trees.
Let's crash the console: the game.

>>50874353
Talos is the Courier.
The apocalypse was the assassination of Reman III.

>>50874177
I thought that was The Thing with dunmer

So is there literally ANY advantage to being a stronghold orc?
>Male Tribal Orc
Get cucked by your chieftain, have to slave away in a mine, hunt food for him, or forge weapons, if you are his son you either die fighting him, kill him, or have to serve your brother. No chance of mating. And I bet if you learned magic from the shaman you're not allowed to use it to duel your father for title of chief.
>Female Tribal Orc
Get sent to Chad Orc to be one of his ten wives. Have to forge shit for him, make him potions or whatever, hunt food. Your kids will either die fighting him, kill him, or get sent to another Chad Orc.
>City Orc
Literally no downsides, even Bretons accept orcs (Tunner was an Orc that served in a Breton's household). Interracial marriage may be hard, but that's it.

Also who is Hoonding and how come I've heard people call him the, "God of dindu nuffin"?

>>50875137
Get out /pol/

>>50875137
>Also who is Hoonding and how come I've heard people call him the, "God of dindu nuffin"?
The HoonDing is the make-way god. If the Redguard face insurmountable odds, the HoonDing incarnates and makes a way for them to succeed.
No one has ever called him the dindu nuffin god.

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>>50872276

>>50875390
>fur & turd
kek

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Seekers kind of look like this. Think there's a connection or is it just me reaching?

>>50876124
Seekers don't have exoskeletons.

>>50871374
The metropolitan and culturally tolerant people are /pol/?

>>50876266
You are thinking of Nibenese.

>>50872642
3rd Era Highrock

3rd Era Highrock

3rd Era Cyrodiil

>>50875137
Maybe /v/ is more your kind of thing.

>>50873802
They exist on different subgradient levels.

How tall are the races meant to be around?

>>50875137
Ban daar is the god of dinduism.

>>50876283
Colovians are also metropolitan and culturally excepting, especially with Nords who they drool over.

>>50876388
Average height would probably be around 5'7 or 5'8 by nutritional standards, but considering Bethesda tends to Americanize and modernize things, it might be around 5'10 or 5'11.

>>50876388
Considering that heights go from .9 to. 1.06 and the average male height is 5'10" the bosmer would be 5'3" and the nords would be 6'2"

>>50874686
The guy gets it.

>>50876590
Thank you!

>>50873802
And Odin, yes.

>>50872276
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Bashnag
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Malkus

Of the orsimer mages in Skyrim (not including Urag, who wears robes) one wears heavy and the other wears light.

Oblivion:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Mor_gra-Gamorn
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Magub_gro-Orum

Seem to wear robes or clothes normally.

Morrowind:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Chaplain_Ogrul
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Gnaw_Tooth
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ra%27Gruzgob

They don't seem to wear lots of armour usually but they do tend to wear regular clothes.

What's the difference between a Battlemage and a Spellsword?

Which one is more common?

>>50878033
>going by morrowind
Battlemage majors in axe, heavy armor, conjuration, alteration, destruction.
Spellsword majors in block, long blade, alteration, destruction, and restoration.
So battlemages are tankier and spellswords are more versatile.

>>50878033
It's a simple distinction
A battlemage uses spells as his main combat force and will use weapons as a backup
A spellsword uses spells to enhance his swordplay and in the place of a bow and lockpicks.
Both wear armor and both (can) use swords. One uses magic more than swords, one uses swords more than magic.
Battlemages are more common militarily while spellswords are more of an adventurer type.

>>50878661
So a Nord wearing light armour with the Mage birthsign, that uses Destruction/Alteration/Restoration in one hand, blasting spells as he gets close and then starts hacking with an axe would be a spellsword?

An Orc wearing heavy armour with the Atronach birthsign that slings spells until his magicka runs out and then he charges in with his big honking hammer would be a battlemage?

>>50878924
Pretty much, no need to use all your magicka first, though.

Tell me about Nords.

Why do they care so much about Talos? Wasn't Talos an Atmoran, and in fact he founded the Empire and the Imperials could accept having to secretly worship him. Why couldn't some of the Nords?

How racist is the average Nord?

When and why did Nords start hating magic? They called it the Clever Craft in Tsun's time so they didn't think it bad.

Why do they allow Orcs to build strongholds on Nord land?

Where the tribes that haven't heard of the Empire? I have never seen them in Skyrim.

Have Nords ever invaded Morrowind? I know they did have conflicts with the Bretons before.

How common are Nords in other provinces?

>>50872515
I always thought that Dwarf-orc was his nickname, meant as praise or insult, for his diplomatic and economic relations with orcs.

>>50880397
>Why do they care so much about Talos?
Talos Stormcrown is the name Nords gave to the Breton Hjalti Early-beard, who was actually the Cyrodiilic Tiber Septim, who was actually the Nordic Talos and it goes on and on with nothing certain in terms of our conventional logic. For Nords, all that matters was that he had the Thu'um and he was a fucking great leader. He made Nords relevant again and they are eternally thankful. There is also some self congratulation in Talos worship, since they reason that "he was one of us, we are divine and relevant once more". It's like how people go bananas if someone born in their town 1000 years ago gets canonized by the church.
Also, see: Heimskr's rants
>How racist is the average Nord?
"Seen any elves?"
>When and why did Nords start hating magic?
Probably when they got assblasted by elves. Nord warriors are not famous for their intellect, nor their humility. If they kill a magician its because they are HUUGE AND PROUD, if they get blasted its because magicians are cowardly witches.
>Why do they allow Orcs to build strongholds on Nord land?
Logistics and general disinterest. As long as Orcs keep to themselves, there is no central authority in Skyrim that would or could eliminate isolated and rural warrior communities. It's simply not worth the effort.
>Where the tribes that haven't heard of the Empire?
Maybe waaay up north. Don't depend on the games to reflect the whole world.
>Have Nords ever invaded Morrowind?
Invaded, yes. Subjugated or defeated, no! Eat my volcanic ass Wulfharth!
See: War of the First Council
>How common are Nords in other provinces?
As others, increasingly common as you get closer to their home province.

>>50874585
Still a lot higher that fa/tg/guyz on 4CHIM

>>50874566
>>50874689
>Hey Dagoth, listen to me. What if we make all those loosers buy our dick oilment made of corpus meat. In a month we would have enough flesh for TWO gods.

>>50880792
Alright then, tell me about the Dunmer.

What exactly is House Telvanni?

Do Dunmer interbreed with other races often?

Are non-Dunmer treated poorly in Morrowind (being N'wahs and all)?

If non-Dunmer are treated poorly in Morrowind, do the Dunmer expect to be treated well outside of it?

How are the Dunmer coping with Black Marsh's vengeance against them now?

Why do Nords not like Dunmer (Grey Quarter and all)?

What are the Thalmor's opinions on Dunmer, since they're not part of the Dominion but are still Mer?

The last question would also apply to Orsimer, as they are still mer as well.

>>50871652
Veloth is Moses

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>>50881737
>What exactly is House Telvanni?
Autistic wizards with no moral compass. Also the best great house.
>Do Dunmer interbreed with other races often?
About as often as other races do. It doesn't happen much but it does happen. Or if you believe the propaganda spread by the empire, they're massive sluts who love taking dicks from all the other races.
>Are non-Dunmer treated poorly in Morrowind (being N'wahs and all)?
As long as you respect the culture and don't support Imperialization of Morrowind no one will really care about you. You'll be called names by some and ignored by others, but live there long enough and you'll be accepted once the godcancer changes your voice.
>If non-Dunmer are treated poorly in Morrowind, do the Dunmer expect to be treated well outside of it?
>implying anyone would ever want to leave great and beautiful Morrowind
But yes, they do, because hippocrasy and lying is an integral part of their culture.
>How are the Dunmer coping with Black Marsh's vengeance against them now?
The Argonians mostly just fucked over the south, which sucks because the Dunmer sure could've used that land once have their province blew up. It feels pretty bad to be taking the long scaly dick of a race you once kept locked up in your saltrice fields. Poor house Dres was replaced in the Great Houses for being so shit.
>Why do Nords not like Dunmer (Grey Quarter and all)?
Nords don't like elves of any kind, let alone an elf living in their city. Plus Ulfric had brainwashed most of Windhelm into thinking anything but a Nord is inferior and Skyrim should belong only to them. Even the Dunmer lived peacefully with other races in most cities.

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>>50881737
>>50881885
>What are the Thalmor's opinions on Dunmer, since they're not part of the Dominion but are still Mer?
Dunmer and Altmer have had a long time hatred for one another. It's a massive conflict of culture. The Thalmor want to ascend back into whatever primal godsoup they came from, Evangelion style. The Dunmer want to keep living and struggling because that's what their entire religion and culture is based around.
>The last question would also apply to Orsimer, as they are still mer as well.
No one but the most SJW of nerds would consider Orcs elves. Even well read and intelligent Orcs still call themselves Orcs and not Orsimer or anything relating to elves. If the Orcs can be convinced to worship Trinimac once again, the Thalmor may use them as front line warriors, or maybe just slaughter them all anyway.

>>50881942
Tell me about the Altmer.

Do they really perform eugenics on their own children, killing the ones deemed unfit?

Are foreigners allowed on Summerset at all?

What is the reason they had the magical weakness in previous games? They were the only race that actually had a permanent negative effect IIRC.

How racist were the Altmer in history? How much did the Thalmor inflate that racism?

Why do the Thalmor want to stamp out Talos worship?

How supportive of the Empire have the Summerset Isles been in history?

If Hammerfell alone repelled the Thalmor, why couldn't the Empire?

>>50881737
>What exactly is House Telvanni?
Traditionally, Dunmer society adhere by "House" culture. These Houses are exclusive in a variety of ways; membership may be hereditary (like smaller Houses we don't hear much about), others may be occupational (like Indoril), and some are purely pragmatic/political (like Hlaalu). Houses serve and protect their own, claim ownership of domains and they are cultural-political centers of Dunmer society. In time, some of the Houses grew to be Great Houses. This simply corresponds to their power and influence, but Great Houses are revered by all Dunmer (although usually with bitter rivalry).

Telvanni is one of the Great Houses. They are quite secretive about their internal politics. House Telvanni are focused on individual empowerment and magical aptitude. They are more or less libertarian in world view. They are a-ok with many things considered immoral (like slavery, abuse of "lesser creatures" including Argonians, blatant racism, "might makes right" ideology, backstabbing, involvement with daedra, practicing destructive and "evil" magic etc.) However, the beauty of House Telvanni is that they literally could not give any less fucks about what others think of them. Even their leading members of the House are often extremely reclusive and apathetic. They are known to be openly opposing of pretty much anyone who tells them they can't do what they are doing. Being a Great House, they have to get involved in Morrowind politics as well. They are not very happy about this.
>Do Dunmer interbreed with other races often?
As often as others.
>Are non-Dunmer treated poorly in Morrowind
Morrowind is a diverse place with plenty of different cultures. Some treat non-Dunmer like regular people. Some even treat the beast races as regular people. However, there are some tendencies that we can't overlook. Dunmer have been typically aggressive against non-Dunmer through their history.
cont.

>>50881737
>>50882236
>do the Dunmer expect to be treated well outside of it?
Absolutely not. Only the most naive and Imperial-minded may think like this. Dunmer culture has a big hard-on for struggle and persecution. They believe hardship makes someone worthy of being. They don't trust or depend on others and they expect everyone to be this way. They expect everyone to be hostile until proven otherwise.
>How are the Dunmer coping with Black Marsh
In 4th Era, they don't cope with it really. Morrowind is pretty much destroyed. But they will survive, they've pulled through worse.
>Why do Nords not like Dunmer
Historical enmity. Both Nords and Dunmer are bent on domination, both in politics and military. They've been fighting each other through years. In 4th Era, the racist sentiment of Nords have strengthened and they see the Dunmer as ticking bombs, ready to wage war against them at any time.
>What are the Thalmor's opinions on Dunmer
It's not really explained anywhere but probably they'd see Dunmer better than Men and beasts but still worse than Altmer. Also, Thalmor's ideology would blame Veloth and the Tribunal for their Daedric involvement.
>Orsimer
They are shit-elves and treated as such by everyone.

>>50882236
So House Telvanni should have no issue with the Argonians conquering southern Morrowind, because by their own logic the Argonians are simply practicing "might makes right". Or let me guess, they're so hypocritical they only want might makes right when it benefits them and not when it benefits others?

>>50882288
They don't have a claim over that territory. If anything, they'd blame and ridicule House Dres for not being competent enough to repel Argonians. Defeat is not met with sympathy for Telvanni. They wouldn't be concerned with the losses of other Dunmer, as long as they don't believe it would affect them in a negative way. Have I mentioned how egocentric the Telvanni are?

>>50880992
>>50874642
Speak for yourselves.

>>50882321
But UESP says the Argonians sacked the House Telvanni, leaving Brand-Shei as one of the few survivors.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Lymdrenn_Tenvanni%27s_Journal

So shouldn't they have issue with the Argonians wiping them out, because that should mean Argonians are just doing what House Telvanni is doing?

>>50882344
This is obviously not the whole truth of the case. It's simply poor writing. We know very well that House Telvanni is still around, even Neloth is alive. It's also extremely hard to believe that Divayth Fyr isn't still around. So of course, House Telvanni, that is centered around the far northeast of Vvardenfel, hasn't been sacked to destruction by the Argonians, who expanded their borders only to the south of the Mainland.

>>50882123
The weakness was a balance thing to make them the glass canon race, and also showed their fragile and decadent nature. They were essentially spoilt teacup poodle kings of nothing, with the elements and magic in particular being their weakness.

>>50882383
So basically, Bethesda fucked up?

>>50882255
>They are shit-elves and treated as such by everyone.
I think the Dunmer would like that though, considering the whole hardship makes someone worthy of being.

>>50882395
Not necessarily. Elder Scrolls has the "unreliable narrator" method in its very core. This letter was obviously penned by a very scarred and frightened man, he could be exaggerating. And like I said above, Telvanni are very reclusive, they wouldn't feel the need to let every single underling of their whereabouts.
>>50882417
Dunmer are not incapable of respect. Albeit mostly with a grain of envy.

>>50882447
I have an idea for why Dunmer may interbreed with other races.
>respect fucking
Kind of like make up fucking for all the shit they put you through.

>Be Master Aryon
>Nicest Telvanni to ever exist.
>Finds town that is struggling financially and take them under your wing
>Disallow slavery
>Allow Imperial influence and build tower as a mixture of Telvanni and western architecture.
>Completely fine with beast races, allow a Khajiit or Argonian to become my mouth.
>Fully support them in their training, and ND without hesitation support them becoming arch mage
>Fast forward a few years
>Argonian invasion fleet come to attack for vengeance against slavery
>Send the women and children away on an escape ship to safety
>The ship is destroyed with only one survivor
>He grows up an Argonian, and learns to resent his heritage

;_;

>>50882493
Interbreeding and having sex are two different things though. Traditionally, Dunmer approach sex in an almost ceremonious manner. Worshippers of Mephala take this to the extreme. The thrill of fucking an exceptional, accomplished or famous person is a great way to boost your own ego.

>>50882532
Well unless Tamriel's got a Fetus Deletus spell, I think having sex is going to result in at least some interbred kids.

>>50882549
>he doesnt know Uriel Septim ordered a magical abortion on his bastard child with Barenziah

>>50882255
Wait if the Dunmer have a hard on for struggle and overcoming hardship, why do the Grey Quarter Dunmer bitch about being treated unfairly?

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>>50882549
Pullus outus might be a martial discipline. All jokes aside, reproductive cycles may be different for different races. Also, a controlled Drain Health spell could be an abortion. Everything aside, this is the last thing we need to be concerned about regarding sexuality in Elder Scrolls.
>>50882585
Because even though stereotypes exist for a reason, all Dunmer are different. The people in Grey Quarter are away from Morrowind culture, they might have lost the traditional ideology. Besides, Dunmer have no issues with double standards.

>>50882549
It's possible no breeding ever happens. People irl fuck animals all the time, and there's no centaurs roaming about. We haven't had hard proof that all halfshit can pop up here.

>>50882644
>what is Notes on Racial Phylogeny

>>50882644
>what are bretons

>>50882707
>what are bretons
Forsworn scum we should kill

>>50882895
City Bretons hate Reachmen too.

>>50882707
Rape targets for orcs.

>>50882920
>look at breton names
>Francois, Gerard, Vincent, Jean Pierre
>frogs of tamriel
>get ORC'D
This shit can't be coincidence.

>>50882920
>mfw will never get raped by cute orc girl

>>50882920
>Gro'Jamal pretending 90% of his free time isn't rebuilding his house after Breton's burn it down.

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>>50882123
>Do Dunmer interbreed with other races often?
Dunmer consider themselves the only pure Aldmer race (with Altmer being degenerates) and thus are pretty much opposed to crossbreeding. In their mythology, Molag Bal "...tries to upset the bloodlines of Houses and otherwise ruin the Dunmer gene pool" and is considered as much of a problem as madness, nature disasters and physical weakness.
Now imperialized Dunmer fuck whoever they want, but these are n'wahs and don't count.

>>50883328
Considering the fact that it took Daggefall, Sentinel and an order of Yokudan anime protagonists three decades to break into Orsinium, I'd say he's probably perfectly safe.

>>50883465
Vivec mated with molag bal tho

>>50882501
What a surprise, extremists on both sides are retarded.

>>50883486
Yes, but that's Vivec. Also this mating did lead to a ban on fellatio in Morrowind.
Quod licet Iovi.

>>50883508
>ban on fellatio
Dunmers hate fun

>>50882920
Quite the opposite normally. Orcs get to enjoy being spit roasted by Bretons and Redguards.

>>50883503
Not retarded anon, cruel. Tragic and ironic.

>>50882123
>Do they really perform eugenics on their own children, killing the ones deemed unfit?
I'd like to think so, it seems pretty cool.
The sources on Altmer doing this are:
1. PGE1, although this one is filled with Imperial propaganda from that time.
2. Christiane Meister, Beth employee:
>From what I understand, the High Elves in Morrowind are far from effeminate. True, their culture revolves around looks, but in a rather harsh way. In fact, they will kill any offspring that do not fit the "ideal". Perhaps this is one of the reasons that their race is on the decline... low birth rates aside.

>>50883486
Vivec mated with anything and everything, he's not exactly a good benchmark for the rest of the dunmer.

>>50883531
And anal sex is banned too.

>>50883574
>become a god
>what can I do with my infinite powers?
>lets fuck everything I see!

>>50883543
>the breton thought as he saw his sister being railed by the largest orc he ever saw, as his own manmerhood rose in excitement

>>50883586
You're only allowed to have consensual sex in the Tribunal position with the lights off, for the sole purpose of procreating.

>>50883482
The first orsinium, yes. We don't have detailed info for how long it took to burn it down the next six times.

>>50883603
So you don't speak in terms of lore, just /pol/ memes? Feel free to start a thread on /v/ whenever you'd like.

>>50883624
>Dunmer being sluts is just a "l-lewd handholding"-tier meme

>>50871630
The more I think about it the less sense it makes.

>>50883662
It really is. It's only based on a joke from daggerfall and a single line from biography of barenzia said by a nord claiming that all elves are promiscuous.

>>50883654
>getting this worked up on a Cambodian wood carving forum

>>50883602
Yet, this is still the most logical decision if you really think about it. I like to imagine Sotha Sil had the same idea but didn't want to be called a copy cat by Vivec.

>>50883756
Not him, but orc's whole schtick is being the butt monkeys of the setting. Using the them as the nigger equivalent for a /pol/ tier joke is dumb.

>>50883794
>complaining about stupidity on a Mexican dice rolling subforum

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>>50883818
>complaining about complaining on a vietnamese poker subreddit

>>50883756
Not even mad , but I didn't come here to discuss if x is the niggers of tamriel.

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>it's another "thread is derailed by pol, becomes devolved shitshow for the sake of (You)s" episode

>>50883857
Complaining about complaining about complaining on a Mongolian coin flipping channel.

>>50883869
Welcome to the mid-week thread

>>50883869
>that one guy who complains about shitposting after everything has already settled down
if you want to get the thread back on track post content feggit

>>50883869
At least it's not tesg-tier.

This is 4chan, what would we be without the occasional shitposting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXlF9MCMeRI

>>50874177
You can ask some classes of dunmer npc about "ancestors" which they reply to with something like "the dunmer honor our ancestors, chief of which are the daedra" or some shit like that

>>50874177
Daedra in Dunmeri translates to 'our stronger better ancestors.'

>>50874177
>The Dunmer believe the spirits of the dead live on in our world. They can know and affect the future, and can speak with other spirits, and work great magic, so the Dunmer honor and gift them, and ask them for aid and protection. Strong spirits of heroes and wise women preserve the wisdom and honor of the race. The worst spirits are evil and harmful, called ghosts, and devils, and daemons. The oldest and greatest ancestor spirits are the Daedra. They are powerful, but dangerous, and hard to understand.
>The Temple regards the Daedra as powerful ancestor spirits, similar to the Tribunal, but weaker and more capricious. Before the Tribunal, the Daedra were worshipped as gods by the Dunmer, but were undeserving of this veneration, since they harmed their followers as often as they helped them. When they became gods, the Tribunal became the Protectors and High Ancestor Spirits of the Dunmer. The good Daedra became loyal friends of the Tribunal, but the bad Daedra remained foul and treacherous.

>>50871963
>rides her brother 'as a steed'

So what happens if a non Argonian licks the Hist sap?

Were the Argonians just so badass the Daedra got their assessment beat, or did something else help them?

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>>50884353
>what happens if a non Argonian licks the Hist sap?
Go play Oblivion and find out.

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>>50884353
>>50884380
You black out and go on a murder rampage btw

>>50884380

But that's a corrupted Hist. It's more along the lines of what would happen if you licked the hist sap mixed with moon sugar and a wizard looked at it.

>>50883890
It's Monday, N'wah.

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HOONDING, BIRDS, ALMSIVI!!!!!!

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Ending! Words! ALMSIVI!
>>50884532
Shocking!

>>50883486
he said no homo tho

Hey Trainwiz, will there ever be a redone Aethernautics?

See you, space netchiman.

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Is there a lore reason for the argonian appearance in arena?

>>50885333
What's weird about it?

>>50885380
The disgusting flat faces and hair

>>50883508
>Also this mating did lead to a ban on fellatio in Morrowind.
Wait what?

>>50885408
Graphical, and that's not too weird. Argonians can go bald according to Withershins.

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>>50885454
Ban on fellatio:
>So Vivec, who had a grain of Ayem's mercy, set about to teach Molag Bal in the ways of belly-magic. They took their spears out and compared them. Vivec bit new words onto the King of Rape's so that it might give more than ruin to the uninitiated. This has since become a forbidden ritual, though people still practice it in secret.
>Here is why: The Velothi and demons and monsters that were watching all took out their own spears. There was much biting and the earth became wet. And this was the last laugh of Molag Bal:
> 'Watch as the earth shall crack, heavy with so much power, that should have been forever unalike!'

Ban on anal sex:
>The citizenry of Vivec screamed as they saw a shooting star come down out of the sky hole like a toll-road of hell. But Vivec merely raised his hand and froze Lie Rock just above the city and then he pierced the monster with Muatra.
>(The practice of piercing the Second Aperture is now forbidden.)

>>50885526
So Dunmeri sluts have to only use their baginas and hands?

>>50885643
No, they still suck cock in secret.

>>50885643
>>50885662
Adding on to this, this is a religious thing. Telvanni and other irreligious Dunmer wouldn't care.

>>50885643
Why do you think they call Mephala Black Hands?

Also paizuri, ashikoki etc.

>>50885723
I was thinking of the Red Wives of Dagon. Belly magic and paizuri sounds nice.

Why doesn't Skyrim mention the fact that Reachmen ruled Cyrodiil and almost ruled all of Highrock except for Daggerfall?

>>50886200
The same reason Skyrim didn't mention that one time the Dunmer stopped being meanies, buddied up with the Nords and freed all their crocodile-slaves, I'd imagine.

>>50886378
Sh-shut up...

>>50886200
Because the Longhouse Emperors are kind of obscure, and it's not really something Nords would like to talk about.

>>50886200
Because they didn't.

>>50880792
>Invaded, yes. Subjugated or defeated, no! Eat my volcanic ass Wulfharth!
>See: War of the First Council
Didn't the First Nordic Empire occupy much of Morrowind's mainland, or was this before the BVelothi went there?

>>50887099
It did. Morrowind was a part of First Nordic Empire under the name Dunmereth.

First for Lorkhan a shit