Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

First for commoragh

I still dont understand why the stormsurge is a monstrous creature

>>50842871
because new models get op rules to get numales to buy them and then think they're hot shit

what weapon loadouts should i run on my 2 wraithknights?

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>>50842871
How can it be a walker if it doesn't have arms?

Sisters of Battle are a meme

>>50842911
a bad meme

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I claim this thread for the Omnissiah. Who here can challenge me and my RT-era color scheme?

>>50842918
I challenge you to post pictures of your minis actually painted in that RT-era colour scheme

>>50842897
Like would making it a walker make it any less OP?
>>50842908
but the sentinel doesnt have arms.

>>50842869
Excellent the Archon will be pleased

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Are there any general guidelines for running MSU over maxed units (or at least max that fit in a transport)?
Does it depend more on unit count and points value than anything, or is survivability and gear more of a factor?

>>50842936
yeah because if it was a walker it could be one shot by melta!!!!!!!

>>50842907
Sword and Board

>>50842941
nope

>>50842897
>op rules
>t6

>>50842937
so pleased that he just slits your throat and then claims the thread for himself

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>>50842929
I just felt like posting old color schemes, Anon.

>>50842961
so it's not YOUR colour scheme is it then fucko

keep posting, I love RT

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>>50842970
>so it's not YOUR colour scheme is it then fucko
Even if I did play the game I don't think I could do justice to these schemes that had to be the result of a Magos after finding a STC for Warp vision goggles.

>>50842943
It would be a super-heavy walker, so unless it has 3 hull points or you have a lot of meltaguns, it would still not be one-shot.

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>>50842988

Can fearless units still decline challenges?

>>50842988
Anyone else see the Terminator helmet?

>>50843006
Yes.

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>>50843004
More candy colored robots!
>>50843009
I can see now.

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>>50843020
And this is the last I could find.

>>50842958
Sounds right

In what book/supplement does the Ork formation/CAD with 3 HQ slots reside? I've looked through the Codex and Waaagh Ghazghkull supp but haven't been able to find it, but I know I saw it posted here some threads ago. I'm a little new to flipping through these epubs so sorry if it's a dumb question

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>>50843039
Here's this if anyone wanted it. Back when the Night Lords were Khorne aligned, had more moons than bats, and had moody blue.

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>>50842858

>My favourite IG regiment are the Death Korps of Krieg

>>50843056

Where are the Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion, and Word Bearerers

>>50843085
>Not Vostroyan
How can you be a edgy numale marxist if you dont play space cossaks?

>>50843054
You didn't look too hard then. It's in the Ork codex.

>>50843097
They only listed the relevant legions

>>50843097
Same place as Imperial Fists, Raven Guard, and Iron Hands

>>50843105
>Alpha legion
>not relevant
But what if your army is actually just an entire plan of Alpharius?

>>50843097
the numale legions didnt exist
>>50843056
>DG
>paint white then wash with black
kek

>>50843097
The same could be asked for the Raven Guard, Iron Hands, and the Imperial Fists. I guess the they were on the next page of whatever book that pic came from.

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>>50842858

Things you would hear a numale say about 40k. I'll start

>When are we getting female IG models?

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>>50843056
Salamanders
>Black and Salamander Green

Dark Angels
>Black and Salamander Green

World Eaters
>Black and Salamander Green

>>50843103
I found it, thanks dude

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>>50843161

>>50842858
>What The Hell Is Tau Doing Near The Maelstrom

Just invent a Cadre or whatever a largish Tau army is called, say it hit a warp storm and got teleported to the Eye of Terror or Cadia or whatever because Chaos is Fickle. Then you have plucky Tau holding off against impossible odds, cause muh powerlevel obsessives to have aneurysms and all the other stuff Tau bring but in Chaosland. Easy.

>>50843161
>w-why arent their black 'people' in 40k??? w-what happened to all the black 'people'???

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>>50843167
Reminder that this was once the Sallies's color scheme.

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Reposting from last thread. Other than swapping dirge casters for dozer blades, I'm pretty happy with how this did last game. C&C?

Do you guys think Archmagos Cawl will be worth running? He looks good, but I'm always wary of ~300 point characters without Eternal Warrior. I hope they make his special abilities good, or we pay ~200 points for an extra 2 toughness and wounds on a regular Dominus.

>>50843215
>thousands of years into the future means races of today might not be there in the future
That's my answer.

>>50843230
typical numale answer

>>50843215
Does everyone forget about the salamanders? Or maybe people forget that they can paint their models how ever they like. fucking retards with no creativity

>>50843215
Weren't Sallies originally actually black?

>>50843229
If he's T6, the only thing you usually need to worry about for Instant Death is Force Weapons, meaning melee. Other than that, you're pretty much set. Very few ranged weapons have ID effects, and you can LOS most of them or just position him in an allied Guard blob or so.

Somone asked for this yesterday and I was really bored at work today, so I present a spreasheet with all the weapons.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19n-0wQDSobBz7-JPJvcCdWEpGDAKSJm20lhdXwvtFcY

>>50843238
no
>>50843237
they arent black. they are in blackface because they are wannabe ashgolems

>>50843161
But who doesn't want to have a Gaurdswaifu in their army?

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>>50843229
what, your characters aren't usually 300 points without eternal warrior? weird. once you hit t6 you don't have to worry about instant death that much unless you regularly fight force weapons

Alright. Last time trying this

So I was planning a planet for 40k based on pretty much every single greek culture ever to exist basically.

>Capital is at the center of a hollowed-out super Mountain à la being Delphi. There may or may not be a rogue psyker here doing stuff and thangs
>Each of the cities is ruled by a clan or Phyle. The ten cities are named after their ruling Phyle.
>People hold Olympics every so often
>Prideful
>Philosphers of War
Etc

I haven't really thought about how I wanted the Military/PDF to be was thinking the PDF would be the equivalent of Hoplites. First sons usually inheriting the job, armor, and las or autogun. Don't know what to do with the Guard Regiments.

What I really would like feedback on is would it be a good idea to include monsters of myth like hydras. minotaurs, Cerberus etc and what not as the result of Tyranid seeding? And the more man-like creatures like the chimera or harpies the result of chaos taint? Or would that make it too hard to develop cities with Super beats roaming?

Also had the idea that "Mount Olympus" is a Mega Temple the Ecclesiarch built after telling the populace:
>"Hey you know all those gods and demigods you worshiped? Yeah, that was the Emperor. They were all the Emperor."

Which caused a war between people who wanted to convert and others who didn't. Thusly leading to bands of marauding heretics.

Does this sound good? Any suggestions? or is it shit and I should feel bad?

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>>50843237
To be fair, the Salamanders aren't 'black' like normal black people, they are literally charcoal black, and its not as if they are all originally black, it doesn't matter what colour you where before, because your skin will turn pure black and your eyes red.

There are actual black people though, several BL novels make reference to people with dark skin colour.

>>50843252>>50843265

Yeah, I've found that sticking my HQs in Skittles units works really well since my relics can buff them and give the units Shrouded with canticles.

Shouldnt be too much trouble since they do have to wound T6 2+ 4++?. Mostly worried about Nurgle stuff, I fight them a lot.

If the Eldar could repopulate to larger numbers, couldn't they resurrect the Eldar gods?

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>>50843288
Have a sallie.

>>50843288
Interesting i thought they were black before the charcoling. Anyways the second point still stand you can paint your dudes how ever you want so why the fuck are people bitching there are no black people?

>>50843237
There's also those dudes that got killed by the Inquisition's "Ork snipers."

Astral Tigers? Something Tigers.

>>50843338
>why the fuck are people bitching there are no black people?
nobodys bitching, its the best part of the setting.

>>50843281
Perhaps the guard regiments are selected from the PDF based on their performance in the 'olympics' or some sort of war game?

>>50843293
Nurgle basically makes your toughness irrelevant: shit ton of poision and flesh bane

>>50843350
Celestial Lions.

>>50843338
Because people are dumb, anon, very. very dumb.

>>50843161
I don't know. Probably something about their special politics topic that they can't stop bringing up even when everyone else just wants to talk about Warhammer.

I'd buy the shit out of a female Commissar though.

>>50842871
it isnt

>>50843293
unless it's a prince or GUO nurgle units don't fight well but you'll suffer a few toughness tests and be in the fight for a long time until they get smushed

>>50843330
no, the gods are dead and the warp is too unstable to be doing a project like that. they'd have a better chance at healing the emperor

>>50843362

That's it.

They were pretty coolguys(tm) too.

>>50843293
Eh, barring certain edgecases involving psychic powers/Grotti lowering your Toughness, you should be fine in most cases. If you're fighting Death Guard, the most notable threat will he the Auto-Havocs, vs Daemons, usually the Plague Drones/Soulgrinders.

>>50842858
What's the best long range anti-tank weapons for the Guard? When making my lists, I always come up with something I like that has almost everything I feel like I need, except long range good anti-tank weapons. So far the best I've come up with are Vendettas and Lascannon Heavy Weapons teams. Everything else seems liek it's 1 shot at BS3.

>>50843396
Lascannon HWT is about as good as it gets afaik. Deepstriking melta is generally how IG deals with armor.

Is Maelstrom of Gore and The Lost and the Damned a good start for a World Eaters army?

>>50843373
okay its a gargantuan creature. Still doesn't make any sense.

>>50843422
If I can attach my question to this one, same situation but with a Kakophoni. Is this a good start for an Emperor's Children army?

>>50843396
Autocannons buried in IG squads, buffed by Bring it Down!

If you don't mind bringing Ultramarines, a Librarius Conclave is hilarious if you make Tigurius your Warlord. You can join a Librarian to a unit of Conscripts making them count as a Marine unit, so Tigurius can buff that unit to have Rending shots. Add re-rolls to-hit with Prescience, and extra shots with First Rank Fire, Second Rank Fire, and collect your opponent's tears in a cup. Since he is ML 3 and can re-rolls for power generation, you also have good odds of getting Misfortune so you can Rend a second unit!

You too can bring down Metal Bawxes with Lasguns.

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>>50843161
https://archive.is/TkJLl
and
http://archive.is/7n8YS

>>50843463
this guy has to be memeing..right?

>>50843422
Not really, Zerkers are quite overpriced. A standard Warband would serve you better. The Lost and the Damned could be fine, if you take a big blob, you could use it to escort Kharn.

>>50843450
It's better than the Maelstrom, as Noise Marines have a better price/value. However, the warband has ObSec and more versatility than Noise Marines. If aiming for a greater points value I'd include both (with anti-armor/assault focused warband) with some auxiliary.

>>50843293
just be aware that if he ends up tanking shooting attacks his majority toughness will be that of the unit, meaning your T6 badass is getting wounded as if he was T3. it's the same problem that primarchs have when they join terminator bodyguard units in Horus Heresy - often the "bodyguards" actually end up getting their daddy hurt more if you're not careful about model positioning.

the same also applies in close combat if you're not in a challenge (and against that guy there's a good chance they'll decline), so it's sometimes wise to have a character leave the unit before a charge as long as you're sure both the character and unit aren't going to fail the roll.

obviously you have Look Out Sir! to help you out in both cases, but it's still pretty annoying to have to deal with and it's important to keep in mind when you have an IC with dramatically higher toughness than the unit he's rolling with.

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>>50843456
Could be fun. Autocannons are good yes, I like those.

>>50843408
I think I'll go the deepstriking melta route since I have the models for it.

Why are possessed bad? Also does the "The Tormented" make them good enough to take?

>>50843358
Yeah, it's that power Necrosius has that worries me. Focussed Witchfire, S3 AP2 Fleshbane ID.
I guess I have to hope I can make one invulnerable save, and a 4++ isn't that reliable.

>>50843385
Yeah, at least Skitarii either do surprisingly well in melee thanks to S5 Taser and -1T, or they get mullered quickly and I can shoot the offending unit.

>>50843394

Normally it's a mix, so both of those plus a FW Blight Drone.
There will be War Convocation next time if he keeps bringing the Vraks Unending Host, though, so hopefully I have the firepower to take them down.

>>50843602

I did not think of that. I suppose I could have him roll with Kataphron Destroyers, which are still T5, but I don't really want to be LoSing to them since they're expensive, powerful and squishy. If he had Patris Cybernetica he'd hang with Kastelans, but this isn't 30k.

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Thoughts on this? Not really sure what I'm doing as this is my first list. How is it for a start?

>>50843669
I'd say move the terminators out for a set of assaults. Maybe cut one of the rhinos to see if you can fit another assault after that.

>>50843649
You can still Look Out, Sir! against Focused Witchfires, on a 2+ since he's an IC. You have your 4++ on top of that, and he needs to succeed on at least WC+1 dice to actually single you out. Note that he doesn't actually have a Spell Familiar either.

>>50843669
i recommend that you take heavy flamer sponsons rather than heavy bolters. and when building it dont glue on the twin linked assault cannon so you can switch between it as the flamer varient when you need it.

People don't like Abbadon much, so who should be the Warmaster of Chaos, /tg/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11944287

>>50843669
your captain doesn't really need melta bombs, that hammer and chainfist will destroy any vehicles.

I don't think you're allowed a missile launcher AND an assault cannon on the terminators, and you won't need more than one chainfist in a squad.

I'd go heavy flamer and then melta + combi-melta on both squads, you can combat squad them and have them fire at different targets.

Other than that it's not a bad list.

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What did i do wrong /tg/

>>50843722
>heavy flamer sponsons
Ew, you don't actually want your predator to get close to the enemy, do you?

>captcha
>please pick all images that feel romantic
??????????????

>>50843602
Is it possible to make Ogryns viable by using them to hide characters with better saves and lesser toughness?

The only things that are coming to mind immediately are the T3 2+ of the Malleus terminator and Tech-Priest Dominus.

>>50843749
I heard Kharn is a hell of a guy...

>>50843629
>Why are possessed bad?

Because they're completely dependent on their random rules to do well at the one job they have, and you pay a premium for the unit. If Possessed roll poorly when they get into combat, you'd be better off with any other unit that cost the same amount of points, and if Possessed roll well, they'll do their job about as well as the other assault specialist units in the codex. Compare AP3 Possessed to Warp Talons, for instance.

>Also does the "The Tormented" make them good enough to take?

Yes. The Tormented and Chosen of Chaos give a reason why you would take Possessed over anything else. Chosen of Chaos even rewards good decisions and positioning with the Prince.

>>50843806
Bullgryns? Yeah.

It's pretty standard to run them with a priest and a psyker.

>>50843716
Really? I'll have to remember that. I also thought that FW automatically targeted a specific model. That's handy. The other problem was being gibbed by some dick with a Force Axe, but I guess I can have my Skitarii Alpha take the challenge and/or just kill him. I hope this guy isn't swinging a Power Axe around like every other tech-priest, beginning to hate everyone getting better melee even on just random Libbys. At least give me the option for a Fist.

>>50843749
Logan "I like this khorne-axe" Grimnar in his pimp slide ofc
why is he not on the list?

>>50843396
Leman Russ Vanquisher. Best if pask is in it.

>>50843806
Bullgryns maybe. The Rampart Battalion is...usable. Not particularly *good* but you could do worse than having them act as escorts for a pair of foot-bound Runepriests from a Wyrdstorm Brotherhood or something cheeky like that. Have them move, toss out Living Lightning or other snooty powers, then Run 3d6-Pick-Highest with Move! Move! Move!

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Thinking of finally getting into 40k. I really like jump pack units, but I'm unsure if I should go SM or CSM. Black Legion seems pretty neat with the Raptor Talon formation, but is it better than Raven Guard SM? Also, would a list like this work in the slightest?

>>50843806
that's pretty much the entire point of bullgryns from what I understand. it's also why they don't let you attach ICs to MCs anymore (except for specific dudes in Horus Heresy, but they're usually almost the same toughness anyway and the game felt really bad for the time when you couldn't).

>>50843629
They're melee-only infantry on foot, without any movement bonuses, and they're expensive and they're random. The Favored of Chaos formation makes them potentially deadly in melee if they remain nearby their Prince, as getting all the Mutations at once basically turns them into budget Vanguard that hit harder.

The problem is actually getting them into assault.

>>50843798
i don't want it close to the enemy no but i perfer to be able to protect its self than to be shooting shitty heavy bolter shots at anything that gets close.

>>50843878
go with whose models you like
->with csm you can use SM models too AND use plasma/meltaguns on them. something only blood angels can do on the loyalist side

the list you posted has severe problems against any kind of armor. infantry in transports for example is ver common and its reasonable to expect 3-4 even at 1000 points

>>50843927
Ahh alright. I've been toying a bit with a Chaos Warband with a Raptor Talon auxiliary. That lets me get a lot more melta in the list.

Is there an updated list of the horus heresy novels? I need to catch up on my reading.

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Check out my mixtape guys.

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Totally new to 40k and have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. How is this for a World Eaters army?

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Is there a guide on how the studio TS are painted?

I'm wondering which paint was used for the gold (Liberator? The pale one?), which is entirely different from Duncan's video,

>>50843854
>>50843817
Only Unidivided Chaos guys on the list. Both of these are Khrone blokes.

>>50843855
I've definitely thought about that. I have an old Leman Russ that has Multi-Meltas on the side and a Lascannon on the front and I thought that might be nice to convert into a Vanquisher. I'd like to put Pask in it to make sure more hits, but at the same time I feel like Pask is so good in the Punisher, it's hard to put him in something else.

>>50843281
Needs more pedastry

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Here's my shot at using the BA decurion how'd i do?

>>50843288
Oh, so they're black face then. That's much better.

>>50843777
>flamer and stalker in the same unit
>vanilla terminators with no cml
>moe than 1 vanguard in the vanguard are tax formation
>dreads

The list goes on

>>50844076
run a warband with the new decurion. fuck rhinos. dont even bother with vehicles if you are running the decurion you get a free 26d move if you are on foot

>>50843215
Black Genestealer IG's

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>>50844274
Are Dunmer blackface?

>>50844080
their pictures are always very bright
i mean look at the painting guide they did for 30k they made rakarth flesh look white on the death guard

>>50844368
>genestealers
>hideous subhumans
it works

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Am I doing the msu tank spam gsc thing right?

>>50844349
thanks.

>>50844408
Looks great!!

So, Gargantuan creatures - I know they piss on sniper and poison, only being wounded on a 6 by such weapons.

But what about fleshbane? I can't shake the feeling that it got nerfed too, but I can't find the rules stating that. Am I just paranoid?

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>Curze is a Demon Primarch

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>Fall of Cadia
>Curze is the real prophet of the 8th

>tfw ideal army is Genestealer Cult
>tfw don't have hundreds to drop on basic troops

Someday, hive mind, someday I will be part of you.

>>50844564
GSC are literally the kings of counts as. Just buy basic troops of other armies and add arms.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWaHYiYeE8

>>50844526
>>50844548
>Demon primarch Curze

That shit can be fucking scary
If they make a mini, I really hope they don't ruin it.
They have the chance to literally make the most frightening thing of the entire setting.

>>50844583

I'll still need a LOT of them. The problem isn't the models themselves, it's the number of them required.

>>50844594
Agreed!
An insane murderer demon who has no purpose except to scare and murder innocents.

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Who needs Riptides, anyway?

>>50843216
Yeah, but at least that is based on the real-world equivalent of its namesake.

It's also kind of cool when done correctly

You guys know where i can get Storm of Iron as an audiobook? Preferably for free.

Why do people consider Kharn to be bad? He does great with me

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>>50843288
IIRC, actual Nocturneans very closely resemble "real" black people, but the gene-seed of Vulkan and the incredible radiation of their homeworld turns their skin charcoal black and makes their eyes glow red as an enhanced radiation protector.

Also, being the color of charcoal ties into their whole "everything is fire, all the time' shtick.

VULKAN LIVES

>>50844633
> has no purpose except to scare and murder innocents.
that's not #cruzemissile though he scares and murders the guilty , killing innocents is what made him snap completely

>>50844766
Yeah but your meta is shit and anecdotal evidence is retarded.

>>50844778
To be fair, what Curze considers to be "innocent" is a LITTLE bit harsh.

>>50844797
>and anecdotal evidence is retarded.

I've never understood why people so completely dismiss anecdotal evidence out of hand, because real-world experience is a HUGE part of conducting research and analyzing the world around us.

I understand it doesn't stand on its own (and neither does raw statistics, really), but that doesn't make it any less important to legitimately consider when discussing something or forming an opinion.

>>50844797
Why so salty?

>>50844124
Put a base tank commander in it then. Then have a CCS nearby with Kurovs Aquila and it'll give him and his squadron mates both Preferred Enemy.

>>50844831
Because it depends on personal circumstance.

Also because you're more likely to see people who buck the trend because they'll mention it more.

>>50844808
yeah but he's one of the few traitor primarchs that didn't end up being full on evil 2 days into the heresy. He hated what he and his legion had become
heck it's even implied his first captain became a chapter master of the grey Knights

>>50844590
Hey, at least his detachment gives you 2 cheap Canticle slots.
That's worth something at least, right?

>>50844766
Kharn has a solid niche in World Eaters lists. The bonuses are significant for him, and he can blow up superheavies pretty solidly.

>>50844778
He is a demon now, numb nuts, he would be twisted to see all Imperium as evil including innocents. That or he wouldn't care at all

>>50843215
>people will never remember based Celestial Lions
I've been pondering about making Ekene as a conversion for a while now but I still have a good 30 models to properly finish first.

I just finifshed reading "A Thousand Sons", and I really enjoyed it.

Do you recommend me to read now "Prospero Burns"? is it worth?

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>>50844973
>Celestial Lions colour scheme

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>>50845049
Yes.
Betrayer is the best book though.
Or Prince of Crows

Infact, just read the Soul Hunter Trilogy, it's much better

>>50844916
If you're fielding a Knight, it also lets you get a cheap repair bot into the list, if you'd rather have your Dominus off doing other things.

>>50845070
Oh well, funny enough I've wished Betrayer for Christmas.

But I'll keep an eye on the Soul Hunter Trilogy too

>>50844433
Would you have any recommendations for tweaks?

>>50845089
Soul Hunter is 40k but it is amazing.

Also all the books are free in the OP BL Mega :)

What exactly are Golden men, Iron men and Stone Men?

I know the golden men created the stone men to spread across the stars since the golden couldn't do it reliably themself.

Iron men where made and basically kickstarted the Golden/Dark age of technology, till the iron turn again the golden men. With the help of the stone men, the iron was defeated, but the Golden men where pretty much extinc at that point.

If the old lore says the Emperor was the last of the Golden men. Then are the modern 40k humans not actual humans but Stone men?

That could explain how "evolution and mutation" work so fast in 40k resulting in things as abhumans so fast.

>>50845055
I'd basically just have to paint Stormcast Eternals on a Space Marine model.

I also like the little fluff there is about them. The whole "african tribal Space Marines" theme is kind of cool to me and their last stand was also neat. Not to mentio that Ekene is pretty badass, all things considered.

A real shame their colors don't fit their chapter theme a whole lot. Gold/Blue doesn't really scream "tribal warrior" to me.

>>50844548

Refrence? This seems extremely unexpected and like total fan wank bullshit

So no one actually thinks Cadia is going down right?

>>50845121
The "Prophet of the Eighth Legion" is a new character who is introduced at the end of the Night Lords trilogy, and is slightly more likely to be Curze than Leman Russ, but not by much.

>>50845114
If you like tribal, make Carcharadons.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327601-malchys-white-faces-carcharodon-hh-raven-guard-hh-nl/

>>50845137
Decius is a false prophet.
Curze is the true prophet of the 8th

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Carrie Fisher's had a massive heart attack on a plane.

>>50845175
Old news by now anon. This is the internet.

>>50845142
I'd probably use their chapter tactics if I were to make a Celestial Wolves list, though I'm more into "African tribal" than the Charadon's "Hawaiian tribal" aesthetic.

Though I've also considered that the Executioners Chapter Tactics would also be really fitting to use on Ekene. His last group of men did fight with full zeal and not losting any of their morale, even when being the literal last of their entire chapter with Ekene managing to kill a Warboss with several of his limbs missing (admittedly with the help of Grimaldus and his Chaplain-in-training but still), so inflicting ID during a challenge would kind of seem appropriate.

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>>50845175
She's with the Trump collage now.

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I ordered one of the limited edition canonesses to be delivered to my local games workshop about a week ago. It said it would be available for pickup in 4-5 days, but according to the website it hasn't even shipped yet. Are they just totally closed down for christmas or something?

>>50845314
it's not limited edition, but you probably got a late wave or w/e because they had to make more

>>50845314
they had like big advertisments about when the last day for xmas orders being shipped was, maybe you missed it?

>>50845314
I got it 2 days after ordering. :^)

But no, they have to make more and haven't sent them out to your country/area yet. It'll be after Christmas now.

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Complete noob here. Thoughts on this list?

Help remedy my indecision. Been wanting to run a footslogging infantry list for a while now, which traitor legion would you recommend that I go with? It seems like World Eaters and maybe Emperors Children would let me close with the enemy faster, but Death Guard has sturdiness and relentless seems pretty good for what I'm gunning for.

>>50845377
>10 tacs in a razorback
Other than that drop the deathwind launcher and give one of your tactical squads a teleport homer

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>>50845361

>>50845442
Do you want assault focus, shooty focus, or mixed?

All three of those legions are good, it just depends what you want to focus on and build for

>>50845448
Oh yeah this was supposed to be a rhino. Thanks

>>50843777
F R A G C A N N O N S

>>50845469
Ideally a mix but I'm alright going with one or the other. Being almost exclusively infantry is the most important part. I'd like regular CSM/Chosen, terminators and havocs, but I'm not sure how exactly to set the army up, or which legion to go with.

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>>50844777

>>50845522

For pure footslogging, Death Guard are the best by miles. Relentless, T5, Fearless and FNP on everything.

>>50845464
BRB, need to go sell some organs.

No not mine. Are you crazy? I need those to live and paint a plastic Sisters army.

>>50845109
They're three exotic male dancers at "The Rock".

>>50845551
I think that's what I'll end up going with. EC can get a lot of FNP with icons in their Noise Marines but I guess their salvo weapons aren't great for footslogging up the board?

>>50842858
Are Leman Russ' proper stats out yet?

Placeholder stats look like shit.

When GW ships things in plain white boxes, does it mean there thing in question is only going to be up for a little while?

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Would you guys thinks this is fun to play against? It's a realspace raider detachment

Another for Commorragh!

>>50845649
F 14 S 13 R 10
Battle cannon,heavy bolter
150pts
I got you anon.

>>50845659
That's the norm for webstore only stuff afaik.

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>>50845725

>yfw sisters don't get plastic troops

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So, what disciplines can CSM sorcerers choose from?

I know its been errated somewhere, but I dont know where. Can someone point me in the right direction?

>>50845771
whatever their godmark is

>>50845770
I don't think they'll be first wave, but they'll come. The new CEO isn't stupid enough to pull a Kirby on stuff.

>>50845771
Things to check:
- the codex
- the faq/erratas on the gw website
- any supplements

however, it hasn't been. Except for the obvious demonology,

>>50845800
Plastic sisters are no longer an IF. Celestine's release is proof that they're not getting squatted (lets be real, they were never getting squatted, but still), so its just a matter of time until they get an update.

okay so is it possible that GW will finally consider themselves a game company in the near future?

>>50845832
no

>>50845829
Oh I agree, but then again we could say the same about Cult Marines.

"When" doesn't always mean "now" after all.

I eagerly await my new plastic overlords though.

>>50845832
They already do, probably. It was just Kirby and the like.

Rountree is a hobbyist and gamer.

>>50845832
Yes, they have come a long way in a short amount of time.

>>50845770

That would be so stupid to have a full plastic update, except for the most common and necessary model. It'd be hilarious too.

>yfw this is basically what non-Thousand Sons CSM are going through

>>50845974
Those are coming too, calm down.

>>50845974
2007 isn't that old all things considered.

>>50846031
Yup. Until this month the last time Sisters got a new model was 2003. Comparatively CSM are loved.

>>50846030
>calm down

Do you just end all your posts with this or something?

Haven't played 40k in years, saw they added giant mechawalker knight things

Are they hideously broken gameplay wise?

I like the idea of a giant walker surrounded by masses of guardsmen

Mid-thread reminder that Curze is a Demon Primarch and is coming with the fall of Cadia
>PROPHET OF THE 8TH

Or at least that false prophet Decius should be getting rules/a model

>>50846054
Nah, I'm just being condescending.

>>50846060

They were when they first came out, but they're just merely good now. Their biggest advantage is that a normal army usually doesn't bother taking enough weapons dedicated to killing that type of unit.

>>50845974
When are we getting our Kreig, vostroyan, tallarn and all the other cool gaurdsman models that are still in metal?

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>>50845865
Alt least Berserkers and Plague Marines have excellent FW coversion kits.

>>50846074

Don't know why you keep spamming that. It's a worse straw to grasp at than Space Sharks are Night Lords. Prophet is more associated with Talos than Curze, despite the latter's prophetic abilities.

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>>50846090

>krieg
>metal

>>50846090
>Kreig
>metal

I'm betting DKoK will be resin forever as they are FW's thing. But GW has taken FW stuff before, but it's always been generic units like the Vendetta and Trygon or basic power armor.

>>50846127
>Vendetta
The Vendetta still is and always has been a resin upgrade kit.

>>50846125
>>50846127
Oh they're resin? i just remember a friend bitching about the price of kreig models.

>>50846114
I'm all down for people with the power to see the future but if they are going to whine about all the bad things they see then you might as well kill em off.

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Is eternal crusade worth the $20?

>>50846143

My bad I meant Valkyrie. Hive Tyrants, Drop Pods, and Baneblades were all also plastic kits that used to be FW resin.

What army would Charles Bronson play?

>>50843281
>would it be a good idea to include monsters of myth like hydras. minotaurs, Cerberus etc and what not as the result of Tyranid seeding?
Why seeding? Why not just strange local fauna? Not every weird animal needs to be a tyranid.

>>50846258
Black Templar Land Raider spam, just a bunch of dudes running forward to pick an honest to god man-to-man fight.

>>50846114
I will stop posting that once I have my reply from Forgeworld confirming that Curze is actually dead

Which is never, because he is alive, as a Demon Primarch

Any links to

- Warden of the Blade

- Tyrant of the Hollow Worlds

- Space Marine Legends: Azrael


None are in the mega link in OP. Thanks.

>>50842918
>>50842961
>>50842988
>>50843004
>>50843020
>>50843039
JUST

>>50846311
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/warden-of-the-blade-ebook.html

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We have a new pic!

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>>50846363
A heretic and a boring background race?

So what?

>>50846363
NOT CANON

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Anyone used this stuff?

Are World Eaters a good CSM legion to go now?

>>50846383

No, but I'll bet you're not going to have good results. People trying unknown spraypaints always have terrible results, since most spray cans generally aren't meant for delicate work like miniature priming.

Does anyone know if the New Traitor legions emperors children are decent in competetive games? (Doesnt need to be eldar or gorgonzola tier but will i be able to win a single tournament game with them)

Also if a rule says one in 10 may carry this weapon does it mean i cant have one in a 5man squad or does it mean i can but cant have 2 until its 11+ models

>tau are a shooting race!
>bs3

I'm not hugely fond of the Tech Priest Dominus, and I have two of them in my list.

Are there any base models that I can convert a bit to look less like a mechanical slug man?

>>50846377
The game already made it canon, it's a lost battle.

>>50846386
They're pretty good if you want an all assault dudes army. They're a little gimmicky though since a lot of their power is in getting a first turn charge. Going second weakens them a lot.

>>50846406
*Fans

>>50846092
That kit doesn't get enough credit. Worth every cent.

>>50845649
His placeholder rules shit all over angron doe

>>50845377

What website/program is that? Sorry if this is a dumb question

>>50846393
Fair point. It's cheap as balls though. I'll probably nab a can and test it on a Cadian. It would make a good base for speeding up production line painting.

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>>50843338
Because painting Salamanders faces is painfully annoying for similar reasons as Raven Guard/successors. It's EXTREMELY difficult to paint salamanders faces, and it's also EXTREMELY difficult to paint RG faces.

There's a really good reason I model most/all of my raptors as wearing helmets. Because painting albinos is an exercise in frustration and agony.

>>50846432

Bottom of the OP

>>50846432

Check the op, last link

>>50846441
>using WHITE paint
are you fucking serious? why do people even own actual white and black paints?

>>50846441
It looks like you just struggle to paint in general.
Use more washes fampei

>>50846363
Is that Shadowsun? And whos the golden boy?

>>50846184
Nah.

>>50846455

But his photo doesn't show pure white paint, and you have them for final highlights/mixing...

Why wouldn't you have them? They are the most universal colors you need. They just aren't going to be the final layer.

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>>50846475
Adeptus Custodes

>>50846403
>Are there any base models that I can convert a bit to look less like a mechanical slug man?

why would you want to do that? Make him MORE like a mechanical slugman, not less.

>>50846475
It's kitten the custode.

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>>50846455
I mostly use white/black for mixing with other paint to produce a different colour. To paint white skin I layer up White Scar over Rakarth Flesh, then use some Nuln-oil, and then finally touching up with white scar again. It takes like 5 fucking coats to do a white face.

>>50846469
Bruh, I just posted a highly WIP image. I own like 3 bottles of every type of wash, and I regularly do level 3 commissions for people. I don't struggle to paint.

>>50846455
You go black, lighter and then lighter still, don't you?

>>50846481
>They are the most universal colors you need
They don't exist in nature. Off-whites like P3's Menoth White Highlight are always better than pure whites, which general come out looking like ass.

>>50846512
What?
I prime grey.
I never use pure blacks or whites.
Been commission painting that way for years.

>>50846518

We're not exactly painting wood elves. Technology doesn't exist in nature either. I agree that it's not necessary to have a pure 255/255/255 white, but it works plenty well as a dot in lenses or for a final super thin edge highlight. I would also prefer white for mixing colors than an off white.

>>50846535
>I would also prefer white for mixing colors than an off white.
I find this often leads to mixing up a pastel color, which I also prefer not to use

>>50846518

They don't exist in LIVING nature. Black exists in things like charcoal, soot, darkness, etc.

>>50846403
There's a bunch of third party replacements you could easily use. Just look around on google a bit.

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Gonna go with the Phrygian helmet for the guard because of pure style
Also the lochoi-taxiarchos unit style

>>50843355
I could see that happening. Maybe they're set into thinking that victory in the Olympics is one of the highest honors, being chosen to form a Guard unit above that

>>50844126
Anon pls. They're not Greek, They're NOT!Greek

>>50846277
Seemed like it'd be easy to explain the abundance of the man slaughtering creatures of myth this way. But now that I think about it it'd probably just turn the world into a death world

>>50846548
>tfw you want to mix a color with a lighter shade of the same color, but at that point you're already buying multiple bottles of the same color so why not just buy the specific shade

I guess this is the one time GW's new tint line is actually useful.

>>50846403
There's always the engiseer

ITT: /wip/ general

>>50846444
>>50846448

Damn, I am truly blind, retarded or both at the same time. Thanks.

>>50846529
I mean you can use black as a base and go lighter. I didn't mean you personally.

>>50843749
>not Kharn
fuck this gay poll

>>50843854
>implying khorne isn´t a bitch compared to Morkai
dark gods are for losers

>>50846622

Kharn isn't a leader type. He would be the most badass/strongest character in an action movie but he won't be the main character.

>>50846433

Krylon Camouflage ultra flat paints are bretty gud, take paint good too.

>>50846664
The fuck is a Morkai?

>>50846433

Just give it a try on something expendable and if it ends up being good, then use it. Some guaranteed won't-melt-cover-your-miniature brands that are cheap are Dupli-Color, Krylon, and Rustoleum. Although Krylon and Rustoleum still cost like $2.50 to $5 a can. Dupli-Color can be had for below $1 though.

>>50846497
Something about him being a t5 w3 monster begets his old decrepit look. The idea I had was that I'd have the regular Dominus in the back, the strategist, and the other more militant. Maybe I'll just beef up a regular techpriest for it.

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>>50845361
>>50845464
must...resist...tempatation...to buy...plastic...waifus...

>>50846363
Greetings from /aco/.

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>>50846974

>Sisters finally release in plastic
>They're still $40 for a 5-woman squad

>>50844080
There a duncan tutorial in warhammer tv youtube

>>50847179
Please learn to finish reading before commenting.

>which is entirely different from Duncan's video

>>50845817
the four new disciplines
god mark
check legion modifications
good to go

>>50847200
seriously, go watch the Duncan tutorial.

It tells you what he uses.

>>50846397
if you're refering to blastmasters check the FAQ it's specifically mentioned.

and EC just won 2 games in a local 5 round event vs some serious gouda.
the rounds they won were vs Space marines and Genestealer cults

>>50847239
Learn to paint

>>50847310
Got a list or even a general idea what he fielded?

>>50847200

The reason the gold looks brighter is because they highlight and layer with silver afterwards, and also because the studio lighting is so bright, and it might even be digitally altered. If you look at official models at Warhammer World, they are all darker/different color than the photo.

>>50847357
i'll give em a call and see if i can't get you a list. i'll either post it here or in the next general.
i know he had noise marines. a couple of foot sloggers, a relic sicaran aaaand i can't honestly remember. one sec

Asking before the lore faggots invade. What are some good counters to a BT list as SW? My buddy has a few dreads and they are a bitch to take down when his normal melee units are also tearing my asshole to shreds.

>>50847357
it was either a rapture battalion and a cad or a kakophani and a cad if i remember right

Is 40k still a mess? Is it safe to come back yet?
I kinda miss playing Tyranids and Orks but the codex creep was catastrophically bad to the point that it feels like masturbatory fan fiction for speshul marines and tau.

>>50847427
Field more Wulfen/Barkstars.

>>50847350
I hear Duncan does tutorial videos along that line of thinking...

>>50847427
You have a lot of shooty units in your army. Keep your troops back and shooting down his. Use Long Fangs to pop dreads from the comfort of cover or a metal box. Additionally you can experiment with using infiltrate or drop pods to deliver suicide melta squads.

>>50847427
Post the lists because SW blow the fuck out of anything Black Templars can use, they got better melee in the form of better dreadnoughts, wolf cav and wulfen plus formations for great bonuses. Black Templars on the other hand have crusader squads, which are a great troop choice but their not killing anything other than troop choices and stuff like melee Centurions are shit since they are low count unit that needs to lose a model to get good in a fight.

You got all the tools, use them, thats my advice if you dont post the lists.

>>50847458
>Is 40k still a mess? Is it safe to come back yet?
>I kinda miss playing Tyranids and Orks
>Tyranids
>Orks

Huehuheue

>>50847458
THE END TIMES ARE UPON US, THE PRIMARCHS ARE RETURNING

THERE IS ONLY MORE MARINE WANK HERE, NOT LESS.

>>50847502
Tyranids can hold there own, now with more than one build thanks to Cults.

>>50847427
TWC, TWolf Iron Priest and Wulfen are the traditional cheesy SW combo units.

You can also play it shooty.

Post your list and an approximation of his.

>>50847466
>>50847486
Thanks for the advice, currently building a box of wulfen and converting some long fangs on the side.

>>50847487
Not sure what he's running since I'm not familiar with BTs. But my list at 1000 pts includes:

Bjorn w/ helfrost gun and claw

thunderwolf cav w/ bolter and frost axe

2 squads of 5 termies outfitted like the DV box

2 squads of 3 swiftclaws outfitted like DV

and 1 squad of 9 bloodclaws with a wolf lord attached

>>50847458
If you believe these threads Orks are still very playable and anons win with them all the time.

>>50846569
Ancient Greece was not a combined country or anything tho, each city state was so wildly different from each other. E.g Spartans throwing their kids out in the wild with nothing but cloaks, compared to the Athenians who came up with theatre and philosophy etc

Would you try and reflect that in your military force/pdf? Is it a united NOT!pelopennisan league, or a group of warring city states?

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>>50847458
Tyranids now have their own codex creep in the form of genestealer cults.

Enjoy mass t1 charges from infiltrate and genestealers with daemon saves.

Orks are still a joke codex.

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>>50847568
Most likely because the anons who aren't enjoying their Orks sold their Orks to the anons who do.

I picked up moist of my Orks on ebay and I love them.

>>50847568
you just need Buzzgob's Stompa =^D

>>50847559
Oh. Ohhh... Where do I begin?

Bjorn is TERRIBLE in low points games. You could spend those points on more scoring units.
Thunderwolves are expensive as well at that level, especially fully kitted out.
>Dark Angel models as Space Wolves
I should kill you where you stand
Bloodclaws are bad in anything other than a 15 man squad in a Stormwolf with an HQ.

Go back to the drawing board with the whole thing.

>>50847600
i dont count GSC as part of the tyranids codex at all.

>>50847625
I'm actually currently selling my orks on ebay because of how shit they are.

>>50847541

GSC aren't Tyranids.

>>50847666
you will regret it

>>50847656
That's because they're actually good and behave how Tyranids should.

>>50847502
Nids and Orks both have a pre-decurion Codex. None of the forces without a decurion are all that good.

>>50847673
Nah, I tried for the longest time to get them to work but my refusal to adapt to the meta made them worthless at best. This was back in 5th or 6th where bikers were king and were sweeping tourneys. I kept trying to run a Bad Moonz shooty gang but kept getting my dick hammered.

Ain't worth it bro.

>>50847641
Lulz I had two sets of DA from the box and a dremel so I took off all the ravenwing shit and sculted on pelts. Also are landspeeders and good? I got one from secret santa and I've gone ahead and wolfed it up. I think I could get a better list going, but half of the fucking wolves formations are spread across 3 different books.

>>50847666
Satan, you'll regret it.

Rules change, but you can't get those back.

>>50843463
who the hell does this hurt?

>>50847714
a new dex will come and you will regret selling them

>>50847677
Statline wise maybe. Nids are really a surpise ambush force outside of Stealers and Lictors.

Honestly I think Nids would be fine if they just made Synapse and Synapse creatures more effective and less detrimental.

>>50843161
>mfw there's an argument about female IG going on right now in the Lady Solaria thread

>>50847559
Since I dont know what he has Im gonna say you need more bodies at 1000pts, consider giving Bjorn a drop pod and get more bodies everywhere and/or more shooty shit. Your list looks like it wants to be upfront but it has no way to move up and no way to shoot from a distance so make up your mind as to what your plan is.

>>50843215
my gue'vesa are racially diverse

>>50847751
No idea what they're called, but its a heavy weapons squad, a squad of melee units and I think an emperors champion, and two venerable dreads.

>>50847458
tyranid big guys still dont have invuls and they really do need them, especially the fucking hive tyrant, youd think their leader would at least have a 5 up. I dunno what situation orks are in. I honestly think nids are the best they've ever been, its just that every other army is too, thus nids aren't that great.

>>50847715
Land Speeders make for great multi-melta suicide units because of their speed, but a single one will get shot down fast.
I'd have to know what all you have in a collection to shit out a workable list but unless you are running Wulfen Spam and TWolfstar you'll probably want to start with 2 of these: 9 grey hunter with two special weapons led by a wolf guard with a combi-weapon in a rhino.

>>50847820
I have pretty much everything space wolf, at least one of everything they can take, and the battleforce box coming in soon. Also a wolf knight.

>>50842897
>numales
this meme needs to die

>>50847847
Then why the fuck are you running a DV box and the biggest point sinks in your codex?

>>50847922
I didn't want to waste the DV box and I'm new at making lists. I usually play Kill Team, but wanted to start larger games.

>>50843215
Catachans and Sororitas even had black peeps on the cover of their dexes.
People that say that are just clueless.

>>50847956
If you're running against this list >>50847811 your list will start something like this:
>grey hunters in a rhino carrying metlas
>grey hunters in a rhino carrying flamers (though more meltas could also work)
>long fangs with missiles parked behind cover
>land speeder with two multi-meltas

strategy is to get your meltas into range of the dreads and your flamers into range of the melee unit. You might also want more units to camp on objectives and something to provide you ignores cover if he decides to park in cover.

>>50848035
His joke was that they aren't people

>>50848127
Guess I'm just out of touch. People keep saying numale, and I don't know what the hell they are talking about.
'murrica is nuts atm.

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What color would you use to replicate this robe?

>>50848242

It's one of those Vallejo black-greys that has a green tint, then black washes.

>>50848242
feldgrau

>>50848115
Thanks I'll start from there.

>>50848242
Do people even use these in regular 40k?

>>50848167
beta->cuck->numale

They just have to keep inventing new terms for the same thing when the old one fades into background noise.

>>50848346

I plan to once I can get a color scheme down and paint out my first squad.

>>50848370
Where are the rules for them? In Imperial Knights or Skitarii?

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>>50846403
You can use the Forgeworld Mechanicum Archmagos.

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>>50848416