Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Can somebody give me a pic of a Taurox next to a Goliath Truck for scale? or if anyone owns both and doesn't want to take a pic, can a Taurox be converted into a reasonable Goliath?

So I'm thinking of starting Admech and mostly focusing on Skitarii. But I'll probably take some from Cult too, since I like the robutts.

How do they play? They seem to be a mainly shooting army, mid range. But I don't know a lot about them, yet. What sort of things should I focus on? Is the 'start collecting' box a good starting point?

You think they'll update Black Templars too?

Abbadon ain't my primarch but damn is it hard not to cheer him on.

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The Mechanicus stand by the Guard. Cadia will not fall on our watch.
Reinforcements inbound, Castellan. Requesting deployment instructions.

>>50788520
My guess is they probably just include the Warlord Traits table from White Dwarf and that recent Space Marine book.

If they're feeling really generous, probably expected a few unique BT relics and tactical objectives.

So Cadia's going to end up a smoldering ruin and Failbaddon is going to get his teeth back?

>>50788563
Courtesy of Creed DDS

>>50788563
Gotta build him up before he comes crashing down. My gut tells me that since chaos won fantasy, the Imperium is going to come out on top in a potential end times scenario for 40k.

Where are all those faggots making fun of no plastic SoB?

>>50788563
>Failabaddon finally, finally, finally capturing Cadia
>Imperial survivors preparing for a last stand
>Huron Blackheart arrives, backstabs Abaddon
>status quo for a few more centuries :^)

>Yes, again. I wanna start a discussion and you can't stop me

What units, that used to be kinda *meh* spiked up in power after Traitor Legions came out?

Death Guard Termies look promising - should a 3-men termicide still be the go-to, or is it worth going for 5-men with RA?

DG bikers are insane.

One Anon suggested, that DG Raptors are really resiliant, so they could tie something in combat for a very long time. Also they could perform semi-reliable first turn charges.

NL/DG Daemon Princes look really promising as well.

Is it even worth taking Predators, or Forgefiends/Maulerfiends?

Thoughts?

Damn I'm slow, but I just realized that we're basically guaranteed to get a new Abaddon mini too. No way they're using that old one for such a prominent campaign.

>>50788535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXZQVBLfGU8
Really makes you tremble.

Still don't know why GW wants Cadia to fall. Do they want to expand the chaos lineup? Move the fighting somewhere else?

Or just preparing the armless man for his next defeat, so GW can move the focus to Ghazghkull's Waaagh, Tau expansion campaign, Nids galactic invasion?

>>50788580
A genuine end times would end with Chaos winning as well.
That's the purpose of Chaos.

>>50788584
Replace Huron by Célestine and the BT and that's it.

>>50788580

>since chaos won fantasy, the Imperium is going to come out on top in a potential end times scenario for 40k

I really don't see that happening. I have a feeling Chaos is gonna take a huge dump on the Imperium and they'll have to ally with Xenos to stand against them and then be fractured beyond all belief. Big E will probably kick the bucket and stay dead too, no Starchild, no new EoT

>>50788604
>Still don't know why GW wants Cadia to fall.

To advance the stetting and hopefully get rid of those dreadful Cadian miniatures.

>>50788604
>Still don't know why GW wants Cadia to fall.
Because that way they can add tons of new shit like primarchs and shit and make tons of cash without pissing fans pff by squatting 40k.

>>50788585
DG Havocs are promising
DG Spawn as a base of a Deathstar

>>50788585
How would death guard raptors perform first turn charges?

what if SoB don't get anything new besides celestine?

>>50788585
As a whole point of synergy, NL have a super cheap decurion that gives night fighting turn one. Great for Alpha Legion, who have Shrouded turn one. 4+ in the open, because lol.

>>50788665
This is the most likely outcome.

>>50788655
That was myself. If I said DG I apologise. Meant BL

>>50788655
I think he meant BL raptors since they get reserve bonuses.

>>50788501
>>50788461
>>50788529

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>>50788619
>>50788636
I have stopped expecting GW to act genuinely. I suppose I should say that I expect the writers to avoid an obvious outcome. I agree with you gents that a chaos victory is the most likely, and that is precisely why I don't feel like it will happen.

>>50788636
>I have a feeling Chaos is gonna take a huge dump on the Imperium and they'll have to ally with Xenos to stand against them and then be fractured beyond all belief. Big E will probably kick the bucket and stay dead too, no Starchild, no new EoT
Besides all of that going against basically everything that defines 40k and going against pretty much all established lore, emps dying is most definitely and end times type event, and we've had confirmation this is not the end times

>>50788585
>Is it even worth taking Predators, or Forgefiends/Maulerfiends?

>Thoughts?
They gain nothing from DG, and their havoks can take a licking' and keep on ticking to protects your heavy weapon investment, no one shooting outside of Demolishes and they can even sit in cover to shit on that.

Really the only vehicles DG should consider taking are ones they thingk look cool, so, maybe some Nurgle FWehicles

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>>50788665
>>50788670

>>50788696
>Really the only vehicles DG should consider taking are ones they thingk look cool, so, maybe some Nurgle FWehicles
And ObSec Rhinos in the Warband.

>>50788690
>I agree with you gents that a chaos victory is the most likely, and that is precisely why I don't feel like it will happen.

Because the unlikely outcome happened with the End Times?

No.
If they mean to wrap 40k up like Fantasy then they'll have Chaos win. Because as Age of Sigmar shows you can do a lot of shit with a Chaos victory that you can't with more mundane factions.

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This should be posted in every /40kg/ thread. Forever.

>>50788665
They get new Seraphim, GW ain't gonna let the work they put into the twins go to waste.

That conflicted feel when you think the core game is in desperate need of an overhaul but also you are desperatly afraid that when an overhaul happens it will be an outright murder of the system and setting ala End Times.

>>50788585
As reposted earlier. Also, to answer your last question? Predators="no" if your group does Forgeworld because of the Deimos Vindicator. Forgefiends are boss in a Warpack due to reusable Daemonforge. They didn't get buffed by TL per se, but TH helped them a fair bit. Maulerfiends are still boss.

Rhinos are better with Alpha Legion due to Infiltrate/Outflank/Chosen Troops. You can do some respectable 2-man fireteams with them.

Death Guard Raptors are kind of hilarious, especially with plasma.

Iron Warriors get better Havocs and Obliterators (I say "better" because although T4 hurts when you face players with Meltas/Dark Lances/Lascannons, Tank Hunters does a lot to fix their bigger issue of just not being deadly enough for their cost)

The real winner though is the Daemon Prince, especially the Night Lords Daemon Prince with Stormbolt Plate. A Daemon Prince of Tzeentch has 2+ armor, 2+ cover when Jinking, **AND** re-rolls 1s. If you don't have Ignore Cover on-hand, you're in for a bad time. Add a Detachment that lets it re-roll Charges as though it had Fleet, and a Warlord Table that can grant it Hit & Run, Rampage, universal Hatred, or re-rolling 1s to-wound, and you have a 220-point wrecking ball.

Cultists are now potentially dangerous in melee with the right buffs too. They're already the cheapest source of melee attacks in the game: Point for point, you get 2 attacks for 4 points. Now, envision them with Furious Charge (without taking a MoK tax), +1 Strength/Toughness, or Poison. Or imagine them being 6 points for T4 base, Fearless, Feel No Pain, and regenerating d3 models/turn.

As long as you don't play 1k Sons, you should be good.

>>50788722
>Age of Sigmar shows you can do a lot of shit with a Chaos victory that you can't with more mundane factions

I suspect my pessimism is due to my not actually paying attention to AoS. What are they doing with the chaos victory exactly?

>>50788585
There's an interesting nightlords anti death Star build you can do.

Raptor talon with a warlord that has the vox daemonicus
Heldrake terror pack.

If all units are present, you can stack up a -6 general leadership penalty in combat.

Take a daemons CAD. Herald of slaanesh on a steed, with the doomstone

Herald of nurgle with the doomsday bell for another -1 to leadership everywhere.

Stuff the slaanesh herald in a big seekers unit.
Ram it into the death Star, multicharging if necessary. The odds are most of the characters in the death Star will fail their leadership test for the doomstone, and then get reduced to zero leadership, thus being eliminated.

>>50788763
ANNIIIIMEEE!

>>50788763
It went pretty much like this
>Chaos won
>SIGMAR
>Oh wait they didn't
>commence eternal stalemate 2.0

>>50788687
I fucking remember this shit. Me and a buddy won a bucket of games with our eldar armies just to see Eldrad get killed off in the stupidest way possible, during the mission to accomplish the objective we had actually achieved. They didn't even let us deactivate and capture one of the Blackstone fortress, which was our objective, because the Imperium failed to destroy them both completely.

Let that sink in for a moment.

>>50788771
Oh, and the discipline of excess has some great leadership based maledictions.

>>50788786
Ah. I'm just going to enjoy the ride before things go south then.

>Chaos wins
>Humans go into some pocket dimension
>GW uses this as an excuse to churn out dozens of additional super ultra last of their kind space marines models with crazy stats
>New game is just gonna be shitloads of cultists and some chaos lords fighting Sigmarines 2.0

>>50788786
Actually, it's

>Chaos WON
>A ember of the world that was survived and flourishes somewhere cannot detect
>Chaos finds it
>A great war commences
>Chaos wins again
>the forces retreat to their last stronghold. Chaos despoils and tortures those who remind behind for an age
>the gates of the stornghold open and a new warriors of righteous emerge to reconquer all that was lost and banish Chaos forever.

In AoS, Chaos is the dominant force while Order is the freedom fighters/white crusaders who seek to topple it down. It's the reverse of 40K.

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I'm doing up Deathwatch and made of list of the chapters that correspond to the shoulder emblems on the sprue and their approximate specialisation (Green: focus, Yellow: no focus, Red: Uncommon)

Any corrections?

>>50788790
Isn't it still hinted that Eldrad might be playing Warp Hide and Seek with Slaneesh? Also, isn't Slaneesh going to bite it (probably) in 8th ed. when Ynnead comes into existence? Or is this misguided optimism in the face of Grimderp

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>>50788535

[shrieking in bianary]

>>50788763
Chaos is magic and crazy enough that vast new lands were created from the destruction of the world.
Other people win by just killing people, Chaos wins causing crazy shit to happen.

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Probably one of the best new models I've seen in a while

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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN GEEDUBS RELEASED PLASTIC SISTERS? FUCKING TODAY.

40K END TIMES CONFIRMED.

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>>50788488
i bought this mini from some dude and i quite like the color scheme but im not sure what greens he used. he wont respond to emails.

help

>>50788897
Silly little metal slug, that's not how books work.

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>>50788903
That model is absolutely gorgeous

>>50788903
While i can see they reference the old Celestine
Personally I'd've done her differently.
Cut the flowers and make the sword on fire, same for her halo, hell make the pigeons flaming projections too.

>>50788912
>Metal Slug
I'm sorry, did you mean a Grot Tank with a ROKKIT LAUNCHA?

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When events take place simultaneously, the current player may choose the order in which they take place. The following occurs:

During my turn, my Chaos Space Marine character is fighting in a challenge against some enemy character model. Both models are striking at the same initiative step. As a result of their attacks, both models end up being killed. Since their attacks occurred simultaneously, I choose the order in which those effects apply and choose that my opponent's model is removed as a casualty first. Champion of Chaos kicks in, forcing me to roll on the Chaos Boon table and I roll either Spawnhood or Dark Apotheosis. My Champion is replaced by the appropriate model. Returning to the original chain of events, I now choose to apply the wounds caused by my opponent's character to my new model which may, in fact, be insufficient to remove it from play.

It happened last night in a friendly game and that's how we agreed to handle it. Is this interpretation correct?
Similarly the Bloated (32) result which returns a model to it's full wounds could cause a similar situation.

>>50788903
Updated rules soon too?

>>50788897

I think it is too cluttered. These work better aesthetically >>50788903

they're not as busy

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>>50788488
Autos cost 5 points too many on this builder.

I've always wanted to use Bullgryn, but I figure they aren't good unless they are in lower point games where it's not as likely to see the horrible things other armies can take.

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>>50788903
I want the retards to leave. Age of the Emperor is not happening, it'll just be one minute closer to midnight.

What guns should I kit out on my havocs? I've got three squads of five in a chaos warband, so they have objective secured.

>>50788897
He has ENTIRELY too many tiny details, so the model just ends up looking like a difficult blob with no real things to look at.. I honestly can't stand it.

>>50788969
>When events take place simultaneously, the current player may choose the order in which they take place.

Where is this stated?

This is fucking fantastic.

>>50788897
That's going to be an absolute bitch to paint.

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>>50789010
You telling me that my shitposting of cancelling the apocalypse was true?

#WeAreCancellingTheApocalypse

>>50788841
Minotaurs are supposed to be codex compliant with a 1st company in full terminator armor, so I'd make it YGYYY
Where did you find the iron hands restrictions?
I'd put codex compliant chapters in all yellow instead of all green, too.

>>50788903
I suppose there's no chance that I can put the old Celestine backpack on it, since it's on such a flimsy support? Not a big fan of the wings.

>>50788580

40k's playerbase is so heavily skewed towards Imperial factions that you can rest assured that the Imperium will never receive the kind of treatment that the Empire did in WHFB.

>>50789046
Got damn those are really cool, save for that bird, looks a bit silly desu.

>>50789011
Plasma, melta, or autocannons.

>>50788903
i feel a bit let down by the paint job and wings as a cloak was definitely more stylish. with that said that is a ridiculous amount of parchment which i really like

>>50789013
Do you even mechanicum ?

>>50789011
Normally Autocannons, doubly so if Death Guard or Iron Warriors. If you're doing a Rhino-build (Word Bearers or so), you could get away with doing 2 Plasma or 2 Melta and a Rhino instead.

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>>50788903
looking at my alternative Celestine I have ordered

>>50789046

>put a bird on it

>>50789066

Well, it looks like we found out what those thingies were. Tzaangor disk and staff.

>>50788903
Awake at 4 AM, scraping mold lines off my Genestealers

>>50789071
>>50789062
So lascannons definitely aren't worth it?

I was mostly planning the havocs sitting back on objectives. Alpha legion btw

>>50788903
>Faces aren't completely hideous, celestine is even passably cute.
What is the world coming to.

>>50789074
>When your crush notices you changed your look

>>50788520
Yo, can someone give me a hand?

>>50789074
I want those wings on the GW model and the GW wings on that model!

Now. Who Copy who shitfeast!

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Is legion the best Horus Heresy book?

>>50788897
hot damn that's nice, what size base? he's rather huge and maybe as tall as a dread

>>50788969
but dead men can't take their wealth with them? while you got the order of operations your chaos lord still died

>>50789140
He's apparently "The size of a Carnifex". Fucking hell, I want that model and I want his rules to be badass, but no matter how hard I squint at them I can't find Eternal Warrior. That really sucks.

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Post your cadian waifu

>pic related

>>50789167
Well they mentioned that he is T6 and 5W. Helps a bit against instakills.

>>50789133
Yes.

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>>50789185
he's mine you can't have him

>>50789186
Yeah, but there are all too many ID effects. He at least has T6 and a 4 or 3++ to help, though, plus some unique powers of his own.

>>50788583
penitance engines.
Their sins and lack of faith will be cleansed

>>50789074
Le edgy angel girl Xddddd

For some reason she also have a miniature gothic building below her.
Hairs are retarded, the robes goes everywhere because fuck physics.
Literraly in shitting pose.

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>>50788897
I'm kinda in agreement with >>50789013 in thinking it's a little too cluttered, but as far as I'm conserned, his kit will be a bit's box for making a bunch of other admech conversions.

>>50789074
> Dat TINY CHURCH
What the fuck?

Could Black Templars end up being the first at least semi-viable, non-furry melee army of the Imperium?

>>50789107
Eh. They're kinda pricey and you don't get loyalist signum. Take your big anti-tank on other platforms. Maybe an Iron Warriors CAD with deepstriking oblits.

>>50789225
God I wish. Templars have been dead since 5th.

>>50789225
Skyhammer with ultramarines chapter tactics is the best melee build for non furry marines by far

>>50789219

In case someone wants to run her as a count-as Knight.

>>50789225
They need a new model line, like a unit that rides on the shoulders of a giant knight into battle.

>>50789225
blood angels and grey knights both had phases where they were viable melee armies

vanilla marines too, if we're including the brief hammernator period

>>50789185
He's my Cadian Waifu too. I love his disgusted look. You can tell he's a PC gamer and someone just told him how controllers are better for shooters. Pask in a Punisher in game is just amazing. So much fun to be had with him.

Straken is my favorite IG character, but he costs so many points and now that Furious Charge no long gives a buff to Initiative, there's little reason for my Guardsmen to charge with it. My second favorite character was Chenkov, but they axed him.

>>50789204

Considering it's AdMech, it'll probably have access to a Conversion Field in its wargear lists. 4+ with a successful save making all units test for Blind within d6".

>>50788897
Heres how I'd do it.
>Gunmetal everything
>medium steel drybrush everything
>nuln oil
>red, gold, and black basecoats.
>make heaps of mess of the metallic bits
>fix the metallic bits, but you've now got metal all over your black and red, and gold
>throw the 70 dollar character at the wall
>cry lots

>>50789107
Lascannons "can" be useful in some armies, especially if you have Tank Hunter as then they become a credible threat to AV 13 (meaning Knights). The problem is that the AP 2 tends to matter less versus most everything due to ease of getting cover, and most vehicles AV 12 or under are simpler to destroy simply by stripping off Hull Points. The Autocannon is cheaper, and fires more shots so your results tend to normalize vs AV 12, and are better vs AV 10-11.

If you have access to IC Psychic Powers though (Geomortis is an option, especially if you play in a group that disallows Worldwrithe, thus letting you re-roll that power), then you "could" use Lascannons for sniping certain units like Broadsides, etc.

>>50789016
Pg 17 of the rulebook, Sequencing.

>>50789140
Why is he dead? I'm not waiting on applying "remove the model from play." I'm waiting on applying "allocate X wounds to the model." Which only partially injures the spawn or daemon prince.

>>50789107
would not say definitly. The problem is they are expensive and havocs are not known for their resilience.

>>50789261
Yeah, probably. I do want to know what his specials are though. Guess we dont have long to wait.

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>>50788956
Please forgive the crude approximation.

>>50789074
The best part is theres now a GW guide to painting it.

Because thats the worst thing about 3rd party. Not being able to visualise it like a GW model.

>>50788535
Cadia has already fallen if you count BL as canon. Then again, only retards do. Otherwise, based on that meme, Baal is covered head to toe in Nid and Daemons and Fulgrim fucked with the geneseed of the BA to make Ghoul King tier monsters because Dante panicked.

>>50789336
Not canon.

>>50788763
End Times was fucking awesome until you find out how Archaon planned to kill the planet. Some McGuffin was planted by 'somebody' (implied to be Old Ones) and he digs it up and sets it off. Good Guys nearly win, but Mannfred decides that screwing Vlad over and killing everybody is better than Vlad getting a win. So he fucks everything.

Nagash, in AoS, decides bringing him back to life is a fucking great idea, despite Nagash dying originally because of Mannfred (not that Death can die).

>>50789046

>dark skin

For what purpose?

>>50789272
i think you're reaching a bit, and it sounds like a silly argument like walkers aren't vehicles. it sounds like you're pulling it out your ass to keep your warlord from dying

>>50789272

Reading up on Spawnhood, it looks like the transformed model is place on the table unengaged, placed within 3" of the original model and more than 1" away from any enemy.

So once it's made its transformative kill, you no longer allocate the rest of its wounds because the model is removed and the replacement is unengaged.

PLASTIC GUO WHEN

>>50788832
>Sigmarines 2.0

So we finally get female Space Marines? WEWT.

>>50788839
This.

I have over 2000 points of Sisters plus a Knight I need to assemble. I don't even know what to do when the plastics come, but God dammit I'm going to get them.

>>50789390
Tzeentch enjoys baiting /pol/acks.

>>50789133

Nein.

>>50788903
MEME. ARMY.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

WHERE ARE MY TAU AUXILLARIES? WHERE ARE MY UNIQUE CHAOS LEGION SHIT LIKE 1K SON GOT? WHERE IS MY DARK MECHANICUM? WHO THE FUCK PLAYS SOB?

>>50789416
Wich one would you say then?

>SoB actually have young looking faces
>not the tranny 60 year old faces

W E W
E
W

At least my proxies aren't going to sit in their boxes.

>>50789421
Bitch, YOU'RE the meme army now.

>>50789421
>WHO THE FUCK PLAYS SOB?
By March, more than AdMech and GSC combined.

Are they ever going to continue the shitstorm on fenris or has that wrapped up?

>>50789391
I don't see how. I'm just carrying out the order of event incredibly strictly.

>>50789393
Interesting point. In that interpretation, I wouldn't even apply any wounds to the Spawn/Daemon Prince because it is technically a new, unengaged, model. Huh.

>>50789421
2/3 of those are in 30k. You meme.

>>50789411
Same boat. Years of no model. Decided to make my own shitty Not! SoB.

Maybe they can be Scion/power armour Acolytes/marines

>>50789460
Yeah it's finished with Wrath of Magnus. That will effect other stuff.

>>50789455
How will sisterfag hipsters deal with actually having a relevant army, plastic models and no longer being able to pull the 'muh pewter, muh models older than most players' shit?

Be honest, there are sister players on here right now who are mad they won't be snowflakes anymore

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>SoB and black templars teaming up with dark eldar

Did I wake up in some bizzaro world?

Are orks still shit in this reality?

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>>50789434

>>50789520
It's the one constant of the multiverse

>>50789455
>By March, more than AdMech and GSC combined.
>more than AdMech
nnnnot happening

>>50789517

I'm only concerned with them becoming overpowered. Honestly, I want something similar to the Dark Eldar release.

>tfw flying Khorne Daemon prince with Goredrinker strikes at S8 on the charge
>fully upgraded Goredrinker Khorne Daemon Prince strikes at S10 Instant Death Rampage for the rest of the game.
Sweet RAEP. That's very possibly 9 S10 ID AP2 I8 attacks on the charge.

>>50789294
Not bad, but at this point you can go all out with fiery hair and wings.

>>50789517
So you claim.
Time will tell, if nothing else we'll get the same falseflaggin fags yammering about not bring allowed to bring LoW's to 1k games.

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>>50789520
>You were born in the timeline that got to see Plastic Sisters, Plastic Admech, and Chaos Space Marines become not shit again
I'm happy with the way life's turned out.

>>50789455
Yeah nah.

Literally every GSC cultist box in the world was sold.

>>50789455
>>50789517
SoB are confirmed to not be a unique army. GW have confirmed that the plastics are 3 models (Saint + Twins) in a single box. They're leading a SM army. They're not a separate force.

The Witch Hunter Inquisitor model and the AWESOME Ad Mech model are proof that there is no more SoB plastics coming.

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GW are such scoundrels.

>clearly show off Celestine and bodyguards in new art
> all detail of (presumably) new Seraphim are darkened and obscured

>>50789533
PRAISE BE TO THE BLOOD GOD!

Where are people getting the Black Templars update from? All I see is someone in the video comments thinking the "Black and Gold" remark means anything other than Black Legion.

>>50789517
Fuck RIGHT off. People buy 3rd party shit because GW refuses to support the army.

This isn't even a full re-release. They're a single box of 3 models. They're not getting any more than that. It's like the Canoness. It's there for meme breadcrumbs.

>>50789546
REE THERE IS NO PLASTIC SOB RELEASE. IT'S A SINGLE BOX. CHECK GW FACEBOOK PAGE.

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>>50788964
>Creed watching the coming invasion with amusement

SEE YOU IN HELL

>>50789555
Sure, the Named Canonsess was PROOF that not other SoB plastics were coming.

Then IA was PROOF Celestine was dead.

>>50789571
Holy fuck the denial. And the goalpost moving.

>>50789560
Where does this art come from? GW Facebook page?

What's happening? I hear mentions of BTxSoBxDE vs Chaos force? WHERE IS THIS STATED? Is it just Warhammer Community saying it?

>>50788969

You're doing it correct.

>>50789555

>The Witch Hunter Inquisitor model and the AWESOME Ad Mech model are proof that there is no more SoB plastics coming
Through what logic?

>>50789571
you know they release things in waves right

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>>50789560
Winged Seraphim confirmed at least

>>50789586
>>50789593
>>50789598
Don't respond to it.

>>50789586
What goalpost moving you fucking melt? I'm not the guy you were talking too. I just stated that people play SoB with proxies because nobody is paying £50 for 10 models. Which are metal. Which are ugly. Which are monopose. Raging Heroes has made BANK because they offer SoB plastic proxies which are ball-jointed and poseable. Your claim about 'special snowflake' fails because people fucking buy 3rd parties.

And what delusion? GW themselves have said it's a single box of Celestine + Bodyguard Twins. There is no mention of any other models.

>>50789584
Difference is, GW has confirmed there is nothing else. Maybe in a few months, sure. But not now.

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>>50789521
Oh god

>>50789571
>IT'S A SINGLE BOX. CHECK GW FACEBOOK PAGE.

Proof? POST PROOF?

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>>50789074
I like the other one better

>>50789517
I had no issues with minis before since I asked ebay or chinaman when I needed more. And the models are specific enough to hold up even today.
Not having to use an old codex or various fandexes, though? That's really nice.
It might be shit, contain no new units, or have only one viable list; but only time will tell, so there's no use in getting my panties in a bunch yet.
And if we don't get a new codex, I keep my hipster privilege. That's a win-win scenario.

>>50789616
Fuck off.

>b-b-bait!!!

>>50789593
>>50789598
Because GW have said there is no more coming. Maybe the March release is true. But the rumour leakers have said nothing. Lady Anita says no ETA on plastic SoB. They're one off models. There is no GK, DE or BA style release coming.

>>50789566
The port where one of the commenters says Celestine will lead an army of BT, inquisition and SoB to spearhead the defence of Cadia, to which the other commentator says something to the effect of "HA. HA. WHAT A SILLY NOTION, THERE Is LIKE *WINK* TOTALLY *WINK WINK* NO *WINK* WAY THAT GOING TO HAPPEN HA. HA.'WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE*"

GUY STOP YOUR FUCKING SHITPOSTING I HAVE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION

Did anyone download/rip the stream of the FALL OF CADIA first look Q&A off the twitch? I'm not subscribing to GW because I'm not a retard

>>50789633
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/20/gathering-storm-first-look/

>The miniatures accompanying the first Gathering Storm book represent a few of the factions that stand against the Legions of Chaos, including: our first plastic Inquisitor miniature, the huge and hunched form of an ancient Archmagos Dominus, and the angelic Saint Celestine, resurrected (or possibly, saved from the dust bin) leading the Imperium’s armies.

>leading the Imperium's armies

Not

>leading the SoB armies

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>>50789620
>What goalpost moving you fucking melt?

Holy kek
I'm 6 words into the post and the asspain is raw.

>Sisterfags furious when they get stuff, and furious when they don't

This shit is why i love /tg/

>>50789667
but SoB is an imperium army

>>50789636
That one doesn't work as Saint Celestine. I bought it to use as a Daemonhost or a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch.

Though, if GW is nice enough to give us a 'Living Saint' rule. As in, generic Living Saint's, I'd use it.

>>50789598
This is more like the kharn release from traitor's hate, I imagine.

They did the whole re-release of the old kits alongside imperial agents because they aren't planning on releasing replacements for a while.

>>50789666
No Satan, subscribe like everyone else.

>>50789690
>being this autistic of your fap bait

>>50789666

Just subscribe to GW, you retarded satan.

>>50789707
>>50789704
but their streams are garbage quality

>>50789679
I'm not a Sisterfag. I'm just telling you that GW themselves have said >>50789667 are just a few minis leading the Imperium armies.

>>50789682
And?

I'm just saying there is no more models coming out until March (if at all). See >>50789645

>>50788969
No.

Controlling player only chooses the order to resolve events if they are simultaneous. Your characters are both dying simultaneously so you can choose to have your opponent's character die first. However, your roll on the boon chart comes immediately following the removal of your opponents model, NOT simultaneously with it. You cannot choose to move your boon roll to before your own character's death because your character's death IS simultaneous with your opponent's character's death.

Valid possible choices on your part are:
opposing character dies>your character dies>boon roll
or
your character dies>opposing characterms dies>boon roll

of couse in either case you would never actually roll the boon because the character is dead.

>>50789718
Ok, then you missed nothing.

>>50789705
Why would I buy RH for 'fap bait'? I have money to buy Kingdom Death.

>autistic

This is the most misused fucking word on 4chan. Why would I use her as Saint Celestine when the OTHER model is a much better representation of her?

>>50789690
Well, I was going to use it as a generic living saint, yes.

>>50789738
>This is the most misused fucking word on 4chan. Why would I use her as Saint Celestine when the OTHER model is a much better representation of her?

because the other model looks worse

>>50789589
>>50789589
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/20/gathering-storm-first-look/

plus elsewhere theres a big drop of Tzeentch mortal pictures for AoS (Beakface ripped dudes, tzaangors on discs, tzaangor character on disc, tzaangors). Basically the Tzeentch version of Bloodbound. Hopefully they'll do Nurgle next for both 40k, and AoS. Typhon, Plague Marines, Plague Termi's ( scythes, or ranged), then human sized blightkings for AoS.

It's a decent army?

I'm looking to start 40k again and i don't want to have a repeat of playing tau in the 5th ed

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Does Ad Mech get new models besides Arch Magos?

>>50789761
>nurgle before slaanesh

you're joking m8, nurgle got love in the end times, tzeentch and slaanesh got dick all

if they're progressing the story now would be a great time to have tzeentch twisted and messed up

instead of sleek daemonettes give them hulking scorpion mutants and stuff

>>50789723
Thinking about it that sounds right

Boon happens immediately but characters are dying simultaneously so that would resolve first before the roll

>>50789259
>Chaos invades
>Abby's new ship "the vengeful planet killer" tears into reality
>cadian anti orbital defenses are instantly smashed
>suddenly a ripple of fire tears through the side of a kilometer long lance destorying it
>another volley tears out one of the massive engines as it detonates and starts to destabilize the ships orbit
>"who could be dealing us such damage?" The first captain of the Luna wolves barks
>zooms in on pask planetside shooting S5 rending shots

>>50789778
Is admech a decent army*

>>50789555
see this
>>50789560

GW wouldn't just change the design of Seraphim and give them wings for a laugh.

They would keep their design the same, but they're changing it. Therefore you gotta assume its to match the new design for Seraphim that will be be coming out.

>>50789783
If you see it in art it will probably get a model.

>>50789798
Yes.

>>50789798
yes

>>50789745
Yeah. That's what I was going to use it for. Using Celestines rules. But those have gone. I just wish GW is nice enough to give us Living Saint generics. Like Daemon Prince/Greater Daemons.

I bought a fair few models. Mostly characters. I'm using the freebie Ayranna or whatever her name is as a Canoness. I also got that Throne of Judgement thing, gonna run it as Karazamov.

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>>50789521

>>50789800
sisters have appeared in art before and got no releases

Drach'nyen is going to Perma-kill Celestine, isn't it?

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>>50789761
You got those Tzeentch ones anywhere? Please tell me this is going to be available?

>>50789831
If ADB is writing it.

>>50789810
>I love sisters so much I don't buy any gw models

>waaaah why don't we get frequent updates?

you can't make this shit up

>>50789831
>release new model of Celestine
>kill her off

What?

>>50789761
Gimme Pestigors

>>50789126
So Skitarii play as a mid range shooting with good counter assault units, meaning the bulk of your army stays at 18"-24" shooting while you have assault units in positions to intercept assault units or to charge into combats should your main battle line be assaulted. As an army Skitarii lacks heavy guns other than the dune crawler so consider allying in adeptus mechanicus with the intent of eventually building a war convocation.

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>>50789803
So does that mean the Dark Eldar in pic related might be getting a model?

I admit I don't play Dark Eldar, or have anyone to play against. But I don't recall any current models having that look. Seems too unique, though I could be wrong.

>>50789836
Yes you can. You just did.

Stop shitposting.

>>50789844
GW released new models for characters in the Fantasy End Times. Most of them died in the story.

So you have no argument against Celestine not dying.

>>50789855
Where is this art from?

>>50789867
Such as? What End Times model release died?

>>50789872
The Warhammer live stream.

>>50789723
Codex: Chaos Space Marines, Pg 28, Champion of Chaos

"Whenever a character with the Champion of Chaos special rule kills an enemy character, you must immediately check to see if the Dark Gods reward him."

Immediately means "at once; instantly; without any intervening time or space."

So rolling the boon occurs simultaneously with the removal of the opponent's character. It doesn't say "immediately after." It says "immediately."

I would also suggest that the word "whenever" also indicates a simultaneous event.

>>50789798

it's between decent and quite good.

Be warned though, if you use the formation that makes them 'quite good' people will wrongly accuse you of cheesedickery

>>50789833
cmon senpai, the pics are already in this thead.
>>50789046
>>50789066

>>50789886
Skarr Bloodwrath
The 3 Motarchs especially Mannfred who was burned to ash by Tyrion.
Nagash. Painfully faded to nothing when the rift tore Shyish from him

>>50789867
>most of them

Name them. Shouldn't be too hard if they're 'most' of them. Warning. Be careful what you reply. I have a suspicion I know what you'll say.

>>50789910
>wrongly

>>50789931

yes, wrongly.

>>50789926
Okay, you're shitposting. Got it.

>>50789929
You

see

>>50789926
Ask nicely.

>>50789872
They did a Q&A livestream, basically saying that they are going to try to make 2017 even better than 2016. Showed off a bit of art, and some basic details for the upcoming narrative.

>>50789926
Not that anon, but while those characters did indeed die in the End Times events, I don't think it is quite the same thing since they are all alive and well in the Age of Sigmar setting.

The only one I think that isn't confirmed is Thanquol so far. But I could be wrong since I don't keep up with AoS.

>>50789855

Not sure what that is. Could be a Dark Eldar.

They did get a boardgame slated, so it very well could be a model that features in it.

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>>50789787
what if gw redoes slaanesh to be covered up like victorian women? naturally each daemonette comes with a fan

>>50789926
Bloodwrath is in AoS. Same guy.
3 Mortarchs are in AoS. Same people.
Nagash is in AoS. Same person.

They're all still fucking there. Every End Times character is still around in AoS. So stop fucking shitposting.

>>50789926
fake and gay. they are all here in AoS.

>>50789944
Explain your reasoning.

>>50788997
I fucking love the cluttered look. It's John Blanche as fuck and reminds me of 3rd edition.

>>50789965
Because every single one of them is in AoS. Thus not permakilled.

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Who the fuck is this?

>>50789949
>>50789926
>>50789965
>shitposter goes full shitpost mode

Probably a Leaf or Australian.

>>50789977
Looks like the Fyreslayer Berserker thing.

>>50789959
>>50789958
>>50789953
They died and came back. BUT THEY DID DIE!

So again you guys have no argument for that woman not dying in the storyline only to be brought back to life later or become some generic character option.

>>50789977
Clearly some kind of Dwarf Slayer

>>50789855
>I admit I don't play Dark Eldar, or have anyone to play against. But I don't recall any current models having that look. Seems too unique, though I could be wrong.

well
the helmet is rather basic kabalite, the leaders have more deco usually, the blade on the back is something a squadleader upwards have and the pelt deco(?) is something I have seen only on HQs.

so i guess its really more akin to archon then generic dude. Dunno which kabal

There was something about a high price IoM has to pay for DE help with the golden throne....

>>50789975
>Because every single one of them is in AoS

So? Does it change the fact that they were introduced as new models and then died?

what faction has the most
STYLE

>>50789851
Oh cool, that's exactly what I wanted. So far it seems like a Dominus Maniple and a Skitarii Maniple are the best two things to take, and then build from there?

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this is why abbadon always fails

>>50790023
Harlequins? Define style

>>50789992
But they weren't brought back as 'generic' option. The original post also said "Perma-kill".

Again. Shitposting. (You).

>>50790017
But the key word, shitposter-kun, was 'Perma-Kill'. They weren't 'Perma-killed'. So that doesn't fly. (YOU).

>>50790023

I have to second >>50790034. Harlequins are all style.

But I'm partial to Skitarii.

>people actually replying to a shitposter

These threads would be so much better if people didn't reply.

>>50790049

People are actually replying?

I've just been hiding and the thread quality has markedly improved.

>>50790023
Admech. The line troops have badass 17th century helmets and the HQ has a pimp cane on the model and as a relic.

>>50790035
>But they weren't brought back as 'generic' option.

But a lot of WHFB characters were ported to AoS as generic characters. Queek Headtaker, The Curseling, the lizardmen characters, to name a few.

No, the keyword is "Kill her off". This is the post I replied to by remaining him that having new models doesn't mean you won't die.

>>50790084
reminding him*

How good are chaos bikers at assault?

>>50789380
>End Times was fucking awesome until you find out how Archaon planned to kill the planet.
Nah, it went to shitter when half of the world got suddenly skaven'd and some Be'lakor kicked in Elf book

>>50789520
>>SoB and black templars teaming up with dark eldar

Black armour and nice swords man.
This is all you need for friendship

>>50790108

Pretty awful at dealing damage, unless you have a Power fist/claw Lord hidden in the unit.

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>>50788722
>No.
Fantasy had chaos predicted to win since the start, 40k did not, and still doesn't.
>If they mean to wrap 40k up like Fantasy then they'll have Chaos win.
Good thing they aren't planning to, and have explicitly said that this is not 40k end times.
>Because as Age of Sigmar shows you can do a lot of shit with a Chaos victory that you can't with more mundane factions.
>mfw

>>50790026
>spent the better part of 10,000 years scratching his ass with the Talon of Horus

>>50790023
30k Mechanicus

>>50790145
What are the good assault units in chaos then?

>>50790148
>Fantasy had chaos predicted to win since the start, 40k did not, and still doesn't.


Wrong.

5th ED has the a major Grey Knight predicting the Chaos going win.

In MoM, the Emperor straightout says tha Chaos has won and will destroy humanity

Whats the best way to field a stupid amount of conscripts for AM allies? Any hope of some kind of neat formation?

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>>50790180
You aren't wrong.

>>50789521
My nigger

>>50790187
>5th ED has the a major Grey Knight predicting the Chaos going win.
>one off thing in 5th edition
>even close to the same thing as the original BRB saying chaos was going to win
>In MoM, the Emperor straightout says tha Chaos has won and will destroy humanity
>treating adb's headcanon as objective truth when he straight up admits that he just made that shit up and knows it will piss off people
>especially when BL has no problem retconning old or even recent stuff

>>50790187
And Eldar predict Necron are going to win and everybody predicts Nids are going to win

>>50790187
Also in Death Masque the Death Jester begs the marine to allow the ritual to happen because Chaos is very close to winning and if this ritual fails, then nothing will stop them.

The marine shot the unarmed Jester in the face. Ynnead was aborted and Slaanesh laughed and laughed.

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>>50789211

Your butthurt is glorious.

>>50790230
Actually, no. The issue with the Tyranids and Necrons is that they are going cause Chaos to win by weakening the Imperium.

>>50789571
>REE THERE IS NO PLASTIC SOB RELEASE. IT'S A SINGLE BOX. CHECK GW FACEBOOK PAGE.
>these faggots still don't know how to read a calendar
I want you to check what month the Celestine box is releasing, and then tell me what month the Sisters release was slated for according to every rumour.

>>50790185

Juggerlord, MSU Terminators, Flesh Hounds, Spawn, Daemon Princes

>>50790235
>trusting eldar

>>50790226
Regardless of your opinion of ADB, it's canon. The Emperor thinks that Chaos is going to won. It's hopeless.

Not even Sigmar gave to despair and he was a simple man.

>>50790189
You have to get them from a Platoon, so you'd have to have a Platoon Command Squad and 2 Infantry Squads minimum. I suggest giving those squads Autocannons, then take a 50 man Conscript blob with a Priest.

>>50790271
Sigmar is literally a living Saint tho

>>50790271
>Regardless of your opinion of ADB, it's canon. The Emperor thinks that Chaos is going to won. It's hopeless.
And how many times has BL retconned stuff since the start of the HH series? Both old lore and stuff in the series? If GW decides that chaos ain't going to win (and seeing as they've outright said this isn't the endtimes, that means chaos ain't going to win) then MoM will be rendered non-canon.

Are the Sisters of Silence in Imperial Agents? Can they take transports?

>>50790310
No and no.

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>>50789074
>>50790240
i like both models

>>50790308
This.

All these people crying about End Times and Chaos winning seem to have not gotten the memo that GW just released saying the galaxy as we know it is not going anywhere - ever.

That means Chaos loses.

>>50788604
>that video
>remember Magnus fags arguments that only one ship at the time can come out from the warp
>mass transition of a whole fleet
Magnus fags BTFO yet again

>>50790320
Fug.

How do people use Swordy SoS without them dying before getting into melee then?

>>50790335
Not mention in the Warhammer community release they said
>The scene is set for the most epic narrative in the history of the 41st Millennium – a fitting celebration of 30 years of Warhammer 40,000 and a great way to kick off the next 30 years of grim darkness in the far future.
Please note the
>the next 30 years of grim darkness in the far future.
Chaos ain't winning folks. Nobody who's victory would destroy the setting or the galaxy is.

>>50790185

Mutilators

>>50790329
And I like you

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>>50790190
30k sexy Deco>40k Baroque junkheaps

Like Death guard, Thousand Sons, World eaters and so many others AdMech they just went downhill aesthetically.

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>>50790329
Me too smol sister me too.

In fact I like the old metal models, the new Seraphim side kicks and the raging heroes ones too. I even like the dream-forge kitbash.

>>50790308
>>50790335
>>50790360
Don't be retarded, folks. Just because the narrative won't cross totally into the End Times it doesn't mean that Chaos won't win.

>>50790357
put out more threats on the battlefield but anything that looks at them seriously will kill them

>>50789953
Can you bullet point the narrative? I get that Cadia is going to become a smoldering ruin, but what else?

>>50790023
Harlequins

They're so fucking cool

>>50790396
GW has decided they will continually move the plot forward. At the same time, the galaxy will still exist for the next 3 decades of releases.

Clearly Chaos isn't winning shit.

>>50790367
How the heck do you get mutilators in charge range?

>>50788903
>decent female models
I feel like I'm in bizarro \tg\

>>50790413

Dread Claws

>>50790429
Without forgeworld. My store bans it.

>>50790411
This doesn't disprove that Chaos will win in the final conclusion of the setting as the Emperor predicted.

Going by what we know about Cadia, if it really fell to Abaddon, then the Eye of Terror will expand until it swallows the galaxy. So the galaxy will exist but everyone will live in a magical realm.

>>50790446
Then your store is a toxic shithole and you should leave.

>>50789954
Why is it in the picture clearly depicting the Cadia event though?

>>50790446
Do they ban Skyhammer and Eldar?

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>>50790396
>chaos' end goal is the destruction of everything
>GW straight up says multiple times in extremely clear words "40k isn't going anywhere"
>bu-bu-but muh chaos is the BBEG! Muh chaos will totally win! They'll still win even though their victory condition has been confirmed to definitely not happen

>>50788583
>ITT: Autists

The "pictures" of "new" celestene don't mean anything. GW already said that the new Imperial Agents book is what you use for sisters now, they did a re-run of the existinf models thats literally all thats going to happen.

In the last video they pretty much confirmed that celestine is going to be an option for Black Templars only.

You idiots need to get over it, GW saying plastic sisters were coming, and showing a bunch of plastic sisters in leaked photos, means absolutely nothing. SOB are being discontinued now and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

>>50788903
All I can think of seeing this picture with Celestine and the model to the right is, "When this girls smacks your girl on the butt and you know you aint gonna do shit"

>>50788841

>Black Templars not Terminator-heavy
u wot m8

how do I put the fear of the emperor into my local game store owner?

>>50790446

>100 point drop pod that flies and eats people is banned!
>scat bikes, wraith knights, gladious, sky hammer, ect all fine!

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WE MARCH TO THE HYMNS OF THE ECCLESIARCHY

SISTERS ARE COMING BAAAACK

>>50790485
Burn the store down.

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How is this for a starting Dark Eldar force? Anything I should change?

>>50790472
>>chaos' end goal is the destruction of everything

And how does going from 10 minutes before midnight to 1 minute before midnight disprove that Chaos won't blow up the galaxy? From where I am standing it looks like they will allow Abaddon to take Cadia and freeze the setting there for the next 5 years.

>>50790452
>then the Eye of Terror will expand until it swallows the galaxy
Until the next plot macguffin artifact that holds chaos at bay is discovered and fought over on some new major warzone planet and ultimately secured at """heavy losses""".

>>50790476
>GW saying plastic sisters were coming, and showing a bunch of plastic sisters in leaked photos, means absolutely nothing. SOB are being discontinued now
hmm

>>50790476

BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>50790496

Looks pretty normal. People will tell you to use Venoms, but I like Raiders, too.

However, you should split the Reavers into 2 squads.

>>50789390

ayo HOL UP'

is you sayin

is you be sayin

we wuz

MUTANTS N SHEIT?

Chaos can rack up some big wins without the setting literally ending.

Smashing their way out of the eye and scattering in all directions to tear apart swaths of the imperium for instsnce.

Invert the running themes of the setting such that instead of a galaxy wide empie (and the other forces of order) desperately pluging holes eveywhere, with isolated areas of chaos and Chaos trying to stage break outs, you have scattered pockets of order trying to hold back the sea of horrors around them or launch break outs to link up with other pockets and put shit back together while chaos and Chaos become the defenders of the status quo.

>>50790502
>Delusion

At best they're getting a codex, new plastic multipack to make battle sisters or an alternate unit, a dominon/retributer kit and maybe a redone exhorcist and repentia and seraphim and if you were really lucky a new immolator.

But thats it!

>>50790397
They're going with Sisters and Skitarii though. Double fug

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>>50790485

Take a slip inside the store and pretend you're hurt

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>>50790499
>GW explicitly says end times ain't happening, another 30 years fo 40k
>bu...bu...but 5 years from now chaos will win for sure guyz! Trust me, even though GW said the exact opposite
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Keep grasping at straws, I've got enough pictures of people laughing to last till the actual 41st millenium

>>50790513
>>50790476
You mind putting on a name just so we can mock you with screencaps for months after the new release?

I mean, you don't have to if you're not really sure.

+ HQ +

········Renegade Command Squad (Warlord) [Flak Armour, Krak Grenades for Squad]
············Arch Demagogue [Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Covenant of Khorne, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Master of the Horde, Warlord]
············Disciple w/ Banner of Hate [Banner of Hate, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lasgun]
············4x Disciple w/ Lasgun [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Lasgun]

+ Troops +

X4
········Renegade Infantry Platoon
············Platoon Command Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Demagogue [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol [11x Autopistol, 11x Close Combat Weapon, 11x Frag Grenades]
················Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil ]
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun]
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
············Renegade Infantry Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Renegade Champion [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol [11x Autopistol, 11x Close Combat Weapon, 11x Frag Grenades]
················Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
············Renegade Infantry Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Renegade Champion [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol
··········Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil
······Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
·······Renegade w/ Plasma Gun

1500 on the dot, how would you guys suggest getting this list to 2500?

>>50790549
I thought i was laying the satire on pretty thick. Obviously not.

>>50790496
See if you can fit 10 venoms in there.

>>50790545
And it's known that Abaddon doesn't want to destroy the Imperium or mankind. He wants to rule it and reshape them into his Dark Imperium.

How do you know that during all that time that abaddon didn't win and that galaxy isn't ruled by him?

You can't.

>>50790485
Follow him home and throw a brick through his window.

>>50790561
Compared to the general level of retardation on here, you barely even registered.

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>>50790496
Be Different fellow Archon

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>>50790572
>he's still grasping at straws
>YOU CANT KNOW
The emperor could also come back, ascend to legit god hood (like judeo-christian God levels of power) and BTFO chaos for all time
How do you know that won't happen?
You can't!

>>50789455
Hahahahahahaha.

If Sisters outsell GSC alone I'll buy you a battleforce.

AdMech is a whole other level, they're literally one of the top 5 top-selling Factions.

>>50790496
I'd try to find points for a ravager myself, maybe dropping 5 trueborn and going a bit easier on the ol' upgrades. But it's pretty solid.

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Plastic sisters?

>>50790602
>tfw I wanted to do something similar except using a succubus and wyches

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So on a scale of 1 to Cadia getting BTFO, how confirmed are *plastic* Sisters of Battle?

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>>50789046
I thought this guy had twelve abs at first.

>>50790513
>>50790549

I realized that the sense of irony relating the alpharius sperglord's constant posts could be misinterpreted as more deniability.
My intention was to mimick their denial.

>>50790603
I just re-read it.

> off the next 30 years of grim darkness in the far future.

So they are going to freeze the setting after Cadia falls. So how does this disprove that Chaos is going win again?

>>50790533
I'd be down with this. But that's definitely not Chaos "winning" as in the way they've been said to completely destroy the entire material universe that some fags in this thread were wanking to.

+ HQ +

········Renegade Command Squad (Warlord) [Flak Armour, Krak Grenades for Squad]
············Arch Demagogue [Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Covenant of Khorne, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Master of the Horde, Warlord]
············Disciple w/ Banner of Hate [Banner of Hate, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Lasgun]
············4x Disciple w/ Lasgun [4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Frag Grenades, 4x Lasgun]

+ Troops +

X4
········Renegade Infantry Platoon
············Platoon Command Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Demagogue [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol [11x Autopistol, 11x Close Combat Weapon, 11x Frag Grenades]
················Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil ]
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun]
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
············Renegade Infantry Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Renegade Champion [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol [11x Autopistol, 11x Close Combat Weapon, 11x Frag Grenades]
················Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
················Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
············Renegade Infantry Squad [Krak Grenades for Squad, Militia Training, Sub-flak Armour]
················Renegade Champion [Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
················11x Renegade w/ Autopistol
•••···Renegade w/ Chaos Sigil
·······Renegade w/ Plasma Gun
········Renegade w/ Plasma Gun

1500 on the dot, how would you guys suggest getting this list to 2500?

>>50790329
shut up heretic.
you're only allowed to like one thing and hate the other

>>50790652
That doesn't say anything about freezing the setting, you retard, and they've stated before they're going to continue releasing campaign books like Wrath of Magnus that move the plot forward.

>>50789855
Looks like an album cover.

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>>50790652
>it's legit going to happen 30 fucking years from now guys, trust me, I'll be right eventually!

>>50790676
So they are going to slowly advance the fluff across 30 years. So how does this disprove that Chaos ain't gonna when as the Emperor predicted?

Heck, the main rulebook says the these are the final days of the Imperium. So the plot is advancing towards the end of the Imperium as we know it.

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>>50790496
Disregard my eariler list - wasn't paying attention
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