Warhammer 40,000 general

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X'th for plastic Sisters confirmed

2nd for alpha legion

>>50791473
Haha I was right.

first for a 10k year old Admech Character who isnt the fabricator General.

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>Orks are a melee race!
>I2

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6th for only true servents of Chaos.

2nd for Fuck Sisters Doubters

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>>50791490
There are a few.

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xth for FUCKING SISTERS

>>50791480
A broken clock eventually will have the right time.

Beside till now it is only Celestin and Twins.

CEO Sebastian Thor needs to work a lot in order to fix the fuck up of the High Lord Kirby

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Here's my personal list for all you new Archons

>>50791505
Vader? I've never seen him that happy.

>>50791517
I think you could squeeze some more venoms in there.

>>50791514
>A broken clock eventually will have the right time.

The expression is "even a broken clock is right twice a day"

>>50791490
Xth for Ahrkan Land when?

>plastic sisters
>40k end times confirmed not happening
>ad mech gets a bad ass named character
>Black templars get some love
>GW is having a fucking live stream where they answer questions about the new release
>a fucking Dark eldar racing game
>Carnac BTFO
>end times fags BTFO
>people who said rountree won't make Games Workshop better than ever before BTFO
Isn't Christmas supposed to come on the 25th, not the 20th?

>>50791520
It's his face right after he kills a primarch.

>>50791553
That nigga dead tho.

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>tfw moving to another apartment, and sorting out my GW stuff.
>tfw shittons of unopened boxes that I have bought over the years.
>tfw completely untouched miniature sprues outnumber my assembled miniatures like 10 to 1.

I think I have a problem.

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>>50791540
I could, but then i wouldn't have my Flyers or more Talosi

And where's the fun in that
>my other list

So do we have any word on which loyalist primarch will be the first one back? It's got to be either girlyman or the lion, right?

>>50791558
#GWIsGreatAgain

>>50791589
My guess is Dorn.

>>50791552
Pardon me. English is not my second nor my third language.

But the point was clear enough I guess?

>>50791577
You do, you're still alone in life and going nowhere.

The new Thousand Sons look nice, and I have new special rules, I'm happy.
And I'll even get some AoS love for Tzeentch.

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>>50791577
This cupboard is also full of miniature boxes.
I need to get this shit under control and actually start building these fucking things.
I have enough unopened ones to start a small store for fuck's sake.

>>50791627
That hurts m8 :(

What's the best unit to swap into assault with soul switch? In csm please

>>50791589
>>50791605
The Lion. Rumour says Luther escapes from The Rock and he gets a model. The Changeling did some shit in the Rock, releasing loads of the Fallen. This ties in with the rumour of The Fallen codex.

>>50791581
Gee carnac, that doesn't look like anything directly from GW that says chaos is definitely going to win.
It's almost like no such source exists, and your talking out your ass.
To quote use a quote from you:
I'll take your concession and lack as proof graciously and see you off.

>>50791642
tg is far, far nicer than dakka

>>50791642
You can always be like me pay college girls their college/university fee in exchange of their dignity.

>>50791670
Wat?
You use them as prostitutes?

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This is for the guys jumping up and down over the "We celebrating 30 years of 40K and we goiing have 30 years more 40K" crap in the other thread. Thanks to a kind anon I found this.

This is from an issue celebrating 25 years of WHFB and looky here it promises another 25 years of WHFB. So...where is WHFB NOW?!

>>50791670
Does their dignity ease the pain?

>>50791491

>ork boys are essentially the same as they were in 4th edition
>meanwhile, other armies have been getting constant buffs
>orks are now under powered to the point to being near useless
>still I2

The only way ork boys are any good is by mobbing up to a 30 git squad, upgrading them all to 'eavy armor, and chucking in a painboy
At least then they'll usually survive long enough to make it to close combat.

>>50791558
>40k end times confirmed not happening

FALL OF CADIA means that this is the end times anon

>GW is having a fucking live stream where they answer questions about the new release

they HAD a live stream, better pay up if you want to see it

>dark eldar racing game

yeah I mean this is the hypest shit, I'm on board with you for this my friend

>>50791589
I'm betting on robot gillamonster. We haven't heard from the ultramarines in forever, and his return is the longest standing of all the loyalist primarchs
>>50791655
I doubt it will be the lion. I'm betting it'll be lik CotW, where we get a fallen supplement with luther, then after a few other books (in which bobby g will be included) we'll go back to the Dangles and have the lion come back

>>50791692
No

>>50791698
Part of it yes.

>>50791695
but 40k is selling, WHFB wasn't selling.

GW will always continue to support whatever is selling

same reason why lotr is squatted

>>50791657
It's directly from a GW source. So unless something comes to dispute it. You are out of luck. And by the way consider the "30 years more 40K" bullshit you pulled debunked. See >>50791695. Unless you want to be a sucker again and believe GW.

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>people still argue with the resident shitposter known as Carnac

W E W
E
W

>>50791695
Seems to me they *are* still developing the Warhammer world.
It doesn't promise 25 more years of WHFB.
Here's your (You)

>>50791718
>it still says fritolay

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>>50791702
>dark eldar racing game

WAT?

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>>50791702
>FALL OF CADIA means that this is the end times anon
>he doesn't know
>>50791695
>all stuff from GW is 100% canon, even BL
>but they also lie about stuff and can not be trusted, when they say something that doesn't mean it's true
oh carnac, never stop being the greatest example of cognitive dissonance known to man.
That still isn't GW itself saying that chaos is 100% confirmed to win 40k by the way.

>>50791712
>le AoS isn't le WHFB so it doesn't le count

If fantasy was wiped off the board, it'd make sense. But AoS is literally a continuation of WHFB lore and got a name change to make it legally protected.

>>50791702

>Book 1: Fall of Cadia
>Book 2: The Celestine Reconquista

>>50791721
He means the Warhammer Old World (which died) but if you want to go that rourte....

Yes, the developed the Warhammer world by killing WHFB via Chaos and turning it into AoS.

>>50791712
I explicitly said not from BL carnac.
And you yourslef just showed that we can't take GW (and as a result BL) at it's word. You have literally just proven that what they say isn't always 100% true!

>>50791728
It's Commorragh-munda

How do you guys know he's carnac of he doesn't namefag?

>>50791702
Livestream is free. Just gotta pay if you want to watch it later.

>>50791728
You do realise there was a racing game mini-game rule set in the old weekly White Dwarf, right?

They're just doing another one.

Do you also not know they're re-releasing all their specialist games, updated and new?

There is also a Gorkamorka video game. Shame it's a shitty mobile tier one.

>>50791774
Any concrete info of it?
I am pretty fucking hype for anything involving the Best Eldar.

>>50791781
Cheeky buggers charging for ads.

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>>50791776
Don't you know?

I am Carnac.

He is Carnac.

You are Carnac.

We're all Carnac.

codex traitor legions pdf?

>>50791776
His rhetoric and posting style.

>>50791797
No, just a picture of the cover.
Which it seems I have failed to save.

i want to fall in love with a faction and stick with it but i always end up changing
life is pain

>>50791712
So, let me get this straight...

In 2008, they released a Black Library book that talked about the Nid and Daemon invasion of Baal. That got retconned a few years later.

Using BL as an example is fucking stupid. Just like your Laurie Goulding bitchboy was WRONG about Sisters of Silence.

Stop using BL as a fucking source. Games Workshop can change and regularly DO change whatever they fucking well want.

>>50791732
>That still isn't GW itself saying that chaos is 100% confirmed to win 40k by the way.

You got your proof in the MoM. You not liking it doesn't change a thing.

>>but they also lie about stuff and can not be trusted, when they say something that doesn't mean it's true

Unless it's in the fluff, I don't believe anything said by them outside of it. They don't have to commit to it. So 30 years? I don't think.

>>50791699
Did they double their initiative on the charge back in 4th?

>>50791817
Have you bought anything yet?

>>50791776
He's very easy to spot. Very.

>>50791803
Speak for yourself. I for one know I'm not Carnac!

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>>50791728
Does it have wych cult racers too?

>>50791805
Working on turning WoM into a pdf now, so maybe I'll get to it next week. This is taking a lot of time.

On another note : if you had to choose between 2 hellbrutes with multi-melta or 4 terminators with combi-melta and a chainfist as anti-AV 14, which would you choose ?

>>50791642

Do you just buy shit at random or what?

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>>50791728


>>50791787
>Gorkamorka video game
?????????????

>>50791840
>Speak for yourself. I for one know I'm not Carnac!

That just means you're a Sleeper Carnac.

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>>50791816
About to purge some Heretics with my boys. [selfie]

>>50791824
>Unless it's in the fluff, I don't believe anything said by them outside of it. They don't have to commit to it. So 30 years? I don't think.
>all GW stuff is canon unless ti disagress with me
Still haven't posted a direct statement by GW and not BL that says chaos is 100% going to win.
Go ahead carnac, for god knows how long you've said that chaos is 100% for sure going to win 40k.
So please provide the proof. Surely you actually have something released by GW and not BL, right?

>>50791833

For most of 4th, yes. They got their update right at the end of 4th, and removed the double initiative on the charge. Mind you, back in 4th, Furious Charge gave +1 initiative too.

>>50791839
i buy one or two boxes from a faction think i finally chose the one for me, then change my mind and repeat like a ADD kid

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>people STILL arguing with the shitposting, goalpost moving, cognitive dissonance, double think, delusional, headcanon, fanwank, BL obsessed, non-playing, retard known as Carnac

>>50791766
You don't get to dictate the rules for me.

>>50791743
Hypothetically, "Age of the Emperor" would be a continuation of 40K.

>>50791819
>hey released a Black Library book that talked about the Nid and Daemon invasion of Baal.

What? Name the book.

And why are you mentioning BL? This is a WD article by Alan Merret. He is the IP manager in charge of 40K and Fantasy.

>>50791866
What factions do you have so far?

Hey anons, how's my list now? I put the Collar of Khorne and Combat Familiar because I didn't know what to do with the last 20 points and wasn't sure if combi-weapons or something else were worth it.

1500 Khorne Daemonkin

HQ
-Daemon Prince, 160
+Daemonic Flight, 40
+Warp-forged Armor, 20
+Goredrinker, 30
+Collar of Khorne, 15
+Combat Familiar, 5
Total, 270

Troops
-2xChaos Space Marines, 130
+2 marines, 30
+9xCCW, 18
+Power Sword, 15
+2xMelta gun, 20
+Icon of Wrath, 20
Total, 233 (466)

Dedicated Transports
-2xChaos Rhinos, 35
+Dozer Blade, 5
+Havoc Launchers, 12
Total, 52 (104)

Fast Attack
-3xFlesh Hounds, 240

Heavy Support
-3xMaulerfiend, 390
+Lasher Tendrils, 30
Total, 420

Complete total, 1500

>>50791855
WHO'S THE RED GUY

GIVE US ANSWERS GW

>>50791855
>Incubi in the background
PLEASE

>>50791849
I can't remember it's name. I need to go afk for a bit. It was a mobile game that had Ork racing in it. Wasn't called Gorkamorka, but it looked similar.

>>50791857
>Still haven't posted a direct statement by GW and not BL that says chaos is 100% going to win.

BL is a firm of GE.

And what Alan Merret said isn't canon or fluff. It's just a statement of a paper about the direction of warhammer that was proven false later. Like you know the statement about 30 years could be.

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>>50791520
Anacharis Scoria, a heresy-era Dark Archmagos who rules the Forge World of Xana II. He is a complete monster in CC who eats Primarchs like they're nothing, and programs daemons into his automata for increased effectiveness.

>>50791875
90% of factions this has been a long process and it is slowly killing my love for this hobby

>>50791868
>You don't get to dictate the rules for me.
Then why do you keep replying? Until you give what I ask, I'll keep demanding it. Unless you relent that is. If you're so content with one recent BL novel being your singular source, then just stop replying. If you don't give what I want but still keep replying with
>muh MoM
I'll just take that as a concession. Thanks for playing carnac, you lose.

>>50791833

Orks have the exact same statblock as in 4th.
The special rules are different, but in 4th they had nothing related to initiative.

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>>50791520
>>50791905

D3 automatic wounds per hit, and the same defensive stats as Belisarius Caul, as far as we know. I have had him kill Knights in CC.

>>50791855
That marine on the left is totally going

>Imma score an penetrating hit on that ass tonight. With a Stunned and Explodes! result at the same time.

>>50791914
They've had the exact same statblock since Rogue Trader IIRC

>>50791910
What attracts you to each faction?

>>50791867
>posts the "30 MORE YEARS" statement and spins it as the ultimate BTFO
> I post a article stating the same thing for fantasy
>doesn't even acknowledge that he got screwed by the facts.

So we have no idea if 40K will last 30 years or not.

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>>50791847
Non on completely random.
I have plans, that I never follow trough. Most of that stuff accumulated during my 3 years of depression, where I occasionally got really back into building stuff, made plans on how to expand my army or start a new army, bought shit in bulk from the web, built something, lost steam, and fell back to the pit of despair.
Majority of my virtually all of my Deldar, Craftworld Eldar, Harelquin, Tyranid, and Admech stuff is from that period of time.

This year I did start Necrons for some fucking reason, later Orks, then I bought the Renegade (to ad 2 knights as pals to my already existing knight) and Overkill boxes, spring brought me some Sylvaneth, autumn the Kill Team box game, and later Blood Bowl, and at this December, I bought Space Hulk.


I am an addict.

>>50791891
>mega admech char that has been working on something for 10k years
>elfdar of any kind
>walking in some blueish tunnel
>the pact between admech and the dark city

Even a space wolf could figure this out.

>>50791868
Black Tide is the books name. 2008. Red Fury too.

>Following the tragic events that led the Blood Angels to the brink of civil war, the Chapter's strength has been badly depleted. The Blood Angels must act, and act quickly, before their enemies learn of their weakness and attack. With tempers flaring, and mutants running wild on their homeworld, can the Blood Angels and their successor Chapters put aside their rivalries and rebuild the Chapter before it is too late?

>>50791899
>BL is a firm of GE.
But it doesn't fit the criteria
>a non-BL gw source.
No wonder you've shitposted about the fluff for so long, you clearly can't read! Glad to have found the source of so much strife.
No either give a non-BL GW source, concede or stop replying carnac.

>>50791937
I'm not the faggots you're arguing with. Stop thinking it's one fucking person you mentally ill freak.

>>50791937
>still hasn't posted a non-BL source
>he thinks that everyone that disagrees with him is me
Pathetic carnac

>>50791899
GW*

>>50791912
Because you are spreading lies. Horrible lies. If I did not do some investigate work to refute your 30 YEARS of bullshit, you would have kept at it.

Now each time i see you using it, I will plaster Alan Merret;s article in the thread.

>>50791930

I believe so, yes.
The only reason I brought up 4th is that's the last codex they've had since 7th iirc.

>>50791934
the back story feel and look, I dont really care about rules, but then after i feel like i've learnt about the faction and i'm in a different mood i want something new, I got issues

>>50791925
If this site had the equivalente of a like you would have it from me. Now there is coffee on my screen and pouring from my nose

>>50791953
Again, you were given a source. Just because you don't like it.

Also there is another one. Death of Integrity. A time travelling ship confirms that Chaos won in the future.

And if you want a GW source, the time travelling Daemon Prince says Chaos will win too.

>>50791980
>Because you are spreading lies. Horrible lies. If I did not do some investigate work to refute your 30 YEARS of bullshit, you would have kept at it.
Says the man who has yet to provide a non-BL and non-person in the fluff speaking source.
Face it carnac, your tactics were used against you and you lost.
No either give a source or stop replying.

>>50792000
I think you should play RPGs instead of wargames then.

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>>50791944
Here's a new year's resolution for you: paint one army. As part of this, you do not buy anything new, or paint any models from any other forces, until that one army is done (to whatever points level you own enough models for).

It's what I'll be doing, having obtained too much plastic crack and then bounced between projects so much that I've never actually completed painted a single army. I've got about 1200 points worth of deldar that I'm aiming to get completely painted and based before touching anything else hobby-wise. Anyone with me?

>>50791972
Then stop butting in and trying to smear my character.

>>50792021
>still hasn't posted a source which fits the criteria
>can't stop replying
Just admit you lost carnac. I can do this all day. You won't win this time

>>50791951
This seems to follow the current Blood Angel narrative. What's wrong with it?

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I was thinking of using my DV minis as 1k Alpha Legion Insurgency Force (list related) and just buy a pack of 20 cultists. 2nd option is to make a 1500pt DG Vectorium list with 3 green stuffed obliterators or a Terminator force.
Any suggestions?

>>50792045
Has he ever "won"?

>>50792045
Already did. The time travelling Daemon Prince from the Black Legion supplement confirms Chaos's victory.

His testimony fits what the AI ship says in Death of Integrity about reality being consumed by Chaos.

Do you have something against time travellers now?

>>50792038
but ive always wanted a completed army on my shelf, THE SEARCH CONTINUES

>>50792074
No, people just get bored of leading him in circles and stop replying after a while.

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Rate my list. Still starting so I don't have a ton of models yet.

>>50792074
He has gotten the last word in many a time, which is all he needs to feel like he won.
Which is why I find this so hilarious, because he doesn't have the ability to provide fluff which fits 2 simple criteria. So he can't get the last word in, which will make him buttmad for all eternity.

>>50792090
Buy a small unit count army then. Make an army of imperial knights.

>>50791930
In 1st and 2nd ed. they were just tough humans with ws3 bs3 s3 t4 and a1. They didn't become bs2 and a2 until 3rd edition when Andy Chambers did thier codex.

>>50792091
>Cadia will never fall!
>No, guys, see this it total says that the Cadian defenders are...
>NO CADIA IS STRONK bla bla bla

Years later Cadium has fallen to the Abandoned One.

>>50792085
>ask for non-BL, non-in lore person speaking fluff
>immediately goes from failing both to only failing one
Still not what I asked for carnac. 2 very simple criteria. Now either give the proof or shut the hell up.

>>50792119
>Andy Chambers did thier codex.

Interesting how one races faction and downfalls is due to a single man for nearly 30 years.

>>50792134
Arbitrary moving the goalposts each time. I mean Chaos is confirmed to win by the Emperor and 2 time travelling characters

What more do you guys want? A signed letter from GW.

How about the statement that Abaddon's sword will see the End of Mankind.

>>50792148
There's various things like this that are now so engrained they're probably not going to change, stuff like Phil Kelly giving eldar guardians shotguns or the great Cruddacing of the tyranids.

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>>50791454
So if the fighting is headed to Cadia does that mean IG will be getting some cool new stuff? Not that we need it, but it'd still be cool.

>>50792175
I've kept the same two criteria the entire time carnac.
You're the one who has yet to fulfill it. Now I understand that, as revealed earlier, you can't read, but that doesn't mean I changed any goal posts.
Now either give fluff or concede. I'm sure you'd much rather go ruin another thread, so just say
"I have no fluff that fits that criteria anon"

>>50791890
It doesn't seem too bad at all. I'd remove a unit of dogs for a dragon at higher points levels in case of flyers, but that's just me.

I'm not too sure about anything else though, the Collar is great, since if you give him Adamantium Will he'll be able to deny on a 3+, which is ridiculous.

>>50792148
3e orks were pretty sweet

the problems came later, basically once andy had left the picture

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When will Orks get their next update?

It seems like all the other meme armies are getting nice updates.
We dont want to be left at the bottom, alone.

I mean, we can threaten the imperium just as goodly as chaos, what about a Orky-kay end times?

>>50792111
thought about that in the past.. maybe one day i shall make it

>>50792221
I mean, they're already in 7th. With GK and SoB being put into one book that leaves IG next in line, right?

>>50792204
No, you just invented them out of then air as I provided the evidence because you refused to accept them because ADB huurr.

Accept them or not, it doesn't change the confirmation of Chaos's victory. And no moving of goal posts will disprove anything.

>>50792200
I doubt it. We can obviously expect the big ugly to get a model, but I'm not sure they'll do anything else.

>>50792041
Sounds good.

>>50792259
No carnac, I didn't
See
>>50790767
and
>>50790795

>>50792221
Ah Orkz. Literally the coolest army in the game that absolutely stinks of old edition funk. And every time they get updated they also get shoved into trash like some kind of consolation prize.

>>50792221

We....we already got our update fellow Ork-bro.

I still haven't bought that "updated" Ghaz supplement. GW isn't getting a single dollerydoo from me for that wretched abortion.

Chaos is going to win and then the story will be timelocked to the seige of the warp on terra for the next 30 years

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Getting sexual exited.
But why Celestine's blade did not burn?

I really want a Great Unclean One, but I don't want the garbage metal one.

Are there any rumours at all of a plastic one?

>>50792315
no

>>50792315
Use a glotkin.

What's a good yet inexpensive way to transport armies? My current problem is that I have too many smaller cases of stuff that forces me to make multiple trips when transporting my dudemen.

>>50792286
Yes, you did.

You started out in >>50790148 and then you just moving the goalpost.

and by the way, the statement about Chaos ultimately winning fantasy comes from the WHFRG books which are published by another compant iirc.. The BRB of the TT never comment on it with that level of certainty.

>>50792364
Reinforced shoe box.

>>50792364
GW cases

Tool boxes

Large tupperware storage bins

army cases

suitcases with wheels

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What happens if each unit takes a dedicated immolator?

>>50792371
company*

>>50792312
Why do birds, suddenly appear
every time
she is near?

>>50792364
i found that laying infantry on their backs and putting a cloth over them in a shoe box works. Just make sure that there isnt much room in the box. Investing inf foam carrying sheets is worth it %100 though.

>>50792312
those eyes tho

>>50792396
Because they're a psychic manifestation of the Living Saint.

>>50792386
Depends on your order of operations.

If

>buy models
>buy upgrades
>buy DT
>put in formation

Then maybe all the Immolators form a unit with each other?

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Why is this game such shit

>>50792371
>You started out in >>50790148 → # and then you just moving the goalpost.
>and by the way, the statement about Chaos ultimately winning fantasy comes from the WHFRG books which are published by another compant iirc.. The BRB of the TT never comment on it with that level of certainty.
I never asked for proof then, the posts I linked to quite littlerally have me asking for proof with the two criteria I gave.
Now either give it or stop replying carnac.

>>50792061
>Following the tragic events that led the Blood Angels to the brink of civil war, the Chapter's strength has been badly depleted. The Blood Angels must act, and act quickly, before their enemies learn of their weakness and attack. With tempers flaring, and mutants running wild on their homeworld, can the Blood Angels and their successor Chapters put aside their rivalries and rebuild the Chapter before it is too late?

The successors all meet on Baal to defend it. They get hard pressed. They go to rush more Space Marines. Bile fucks with it. Creates mutants. Some go to hunt him down.

That got retconned. BA are massing on Baal. They've yet to be invaded.

>>50792457
made by incompetent russians

>>50792386

Is it better to take 10 Flagellants over DC assassins?
Only considering it because the assassins are only AP3.

>>50792175
>Time travelling characters

Not a reliable source in all fairness, cause and effect don't work like that in 40k when time-travel gets involved, going back into the past has changed the outcome of the future. All the time-travelling dudes say is that there's a chance Chaos will win from an objective standpoint, not that it'll definitely happen.

That being said, what with GW slowly retconning Chaos into becoming ever-more powerful, I wouldn't be surprised if they're winding up to deliver their 'Humans, Tau and Eldar vs. Chaos' stick they've hinted at in Beast Arises.

>>50792481
No, mofo, you pulled the criteria out of thin air. Now please back up your statements about WHFB. Where in 1st BRB edition does it say that Chaos was going win.

>>50792259
You do realise that the fluff has changed many times? Or do you believe that the Oldcrons still exist? Or that BT hate SoB? Or the 13th Black Crusade happened?

Fluff changes, retard.

>>50792457
Because you're playing it alone.

>>50792457
>preorder to get it cheaper
>play beta
>get refund

>>50792512
I literally linked to you the posts which are almost 2 hours old where I ask for proof fitting those criteria.
So now either give it or stop replying.

>>50792491
They're a French company, you fucking retard.

>>50792457
For you, maybe. It works for me and is enjoyable.

>>50792525
>Play co-op
>Its 50/50 on if it works or not
>Get a chunk of the shit you get in campaign removed
Yeah nah yeah

>>50791905
>who eats Primarchs like they're nothing
Exaggeration.

Is there a better alternative for Black Templars than buying the conversion kits from GW?

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So this guy looks amazing except for the belly section, which overclutters him a bit.

Without that, he still has four arms and like a dozen mechanical legs. With it, he has an exaggerated paunch and too much detail work to the point it's kinda distracting.

Oh, and why the hell does one of his paunch-arms have a walking stick?

Since the emperor has the power to bring his followers back to life and grant them extreme boons is it possible that he has already become the 5th chaos god?

>>50792562
Not an egregrious one, though. About an even chance to kill Horus and noone else sans Guilliman and maybe Fulgrim or Perty stand a chance, and he costs 100-200 points less than them.

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And to think I was this close to dumping cash into multiple kits to make an inquisitor when hat waifu was right around the bend.

>>50792584
It activates shit.

>>50792099
bunp? I figure this is a decent starting list and I can add some robots and other stuff later. are dragoons or bastilarii any good?

>>50792497

Crusaders, Flagellants, and DCA are all the same cost, so I'd say a mix of Crusaders and DCA would be best.

>>50792584
An Ad Mech? Looking cluttered?

Fuck me! What HERESY!?!?!?

>>50792584
He's a fat old man and has difficulty hauling his bulk around.

>>50792536
Firstly, you said that WHFB BRBs predicted that Chaos is going to win. I provided the same level of proof that's that's in those books. Which again never said that Chaos was going to win in any certain terms.

Then you pulled the criteria out of your butt because you had basically nothing.

>>50791855
>Black Templars were on the other side of the Water of Khaine
>the Emperor actually spend the 10,000 years of silence rebuilding the web at project
Look into your hearts anons, you know this to be true.

What is Duncan painting in that teaser video? New Abaddon?

>>50792574

Jewelers chains, use MKIII from BoP with MKVII helmets, use your imagination.

>>50792618
>Firstly, you said that WHFB BRBs predicted that Chaos is going to win. I provided the same level of proof that's that's in those books. Which again never said that Chaos was going to win in any certain terms.
That is all irrelevant. I asked you for proof that fits very simple criteria carnac. Stop deflecting. Either give it, admit no such proof exists or stop replying.

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>>50792592
The Raging Heroes proxy was very popular. So not surprised GW made one.

>>50792457
Shooter garbage

>>50792512
This poster is so troll just reading this comment thread makes me cringe.

>>50792592
sex with hats on inquisitor a best

Needs a better paint scheme, though. Silver's not very flattering.

>>50792584
>that book

Alpha

Mars/Iron

4

0 or maybe Salt

L

What does it mean?!

>>50792631
Screenshot for me and I'll tell you.

But without looking. Abaddon or Luther.

>>50792618
SoB used to be anti-Marines. Fluff. Changes. Why are you still arguing this?

>>50792669
>he doesn't know

>>50792483
Ah...I remember the series. I read an interview about it. The author wanted to write the Blood Angels killing Fabius in the last book. GW wouldn't let him for some reason.

>>50792509
If we line up all the seers in that talked about what's going happen with Chaos in the future we see that they are on the same page.

The Cabal (Eldrad and Eldar of Ulthwe admit their foresight is greater than them) saw that humanity and the galaxy will be destroyed by Chaos in 10K years if the Emperor wins the HH.

The time travellers both machine an daemon saw Chaos destroy the galaxy. The AI plotted a course out of the galaxy, far far away.

Finally, we have the Emperor greatest of the seers of humanity, who, according to LG, gained galaxy-wide omniscience when he was enthrone. Guess what's his opinion on things? Shitfucked. Chaos is going win.

We are falling under the weight of prophecy and time here, people. You cannot hint all of that and not deliver.

>>50792669
He's the resident shitposter! You have been blessed to see him in his autistic glory!

>>50792708
Don't you have something better to do?

So i just watched to fall of Cadia teaser video and apparently some how the return of the emperors angels (SoB?) is some how connected to its fall.

>>50792649
Under false pretences. You said that WHFB BRB said Chaos will win 100% for sure so you must proof that 40K BRB did the same thing. This is bullshit. You lied.

Neither WHFB or 40K GW stuff provided any certainty beyond prophecies and hints. So when I provided some you just moved the goalpost.

>>50792584
>Oh, and why the hell does one of his paunch-arms have a walking stick?
Because bitches won't hit themselves, you need a pimp cane for that.

>>50792746
Still not the proof I asked for carnac.
Now either give it or stop replying

>>50792755
I will provide it but first proof that WHFB BRB 1st edition said that Chaos was going to win.

>>50792745
IIRC the "Emperor's angels" are the Chaos Space Marines, returning with Chaos powers and such.

>>50792774
Interesting didnt know that. thank you for the clarification.

>>50792770
prove*

>>50792731
No.

>>50792588
Did the crunch on Corax, he beats scoria 5 wounds to 4 in the 4th round of combat.

I did one round of combat of Horus vs Scoria. Scoria is going to lose hard.

>>50792745
>emperors angels (SoB?)

Space Marines.
Space Marines are the angels of death.
The returning angels are the Chaos Space Marines.

>>50792809
But they don't have wings.
Plus they didn't go anywhere.

>>50792774

Yup, it's Abaddon talking about the CSM returning.

I hope it's more than just the Black Legion. The Word Bearers, Death Guard and Iron Warriors could all plausibly return too.

>>50792815
>Plus they didn't go anywhere.

Except hell.

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Sisters of Battle + Sisters of Silence + Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor Warband
Good idea or quixotic?

>>50792817
>recast in Black and Gold
Its Black Legion

>>50792798
actually scoria does fewer that 4 total unsaved wounds because he doesnt get to swing in the 4th round because he's dead. Forgot initiative steps.

>>50792798
Did you factor in all Scoria's BS. He ignores FnP and IWND, and has them himself. If Corax wins with Hit+Run, did you factor in Overwatch with Scoria's plethora of weapons?

Not particularly bothered, but if we're going to have a mathhammer fight, lets put the processes in writing.
Don't know either of their stats, but Scoria does 2 wounds/round exactly to 4++ primarchs. With Corax's -1 to Hit, it's 1 1/3 per round. What are Corax's offensive stats?

>>50792809
i guess what confused me is the SoB return along with there heavy angel motif being present seemed like he was mentioning them. Its strange that they would still say they are the emperors angel of death.

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Another day in 40k general, another shitstorm of a fight over fluff.

It would be an entertainig read if it wasn't so bloody repetative by now.

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>>50792815
>But they don't have wings.
some of them do

>>50792850

No shit, sherlock. That's why I said

>I hope
>more than

>>50792844
>mixing three meme armies together

Never cross the Meme Streams.

>>50792855
Yeah man, I just want critique on my army up there :/
>>50792099

>ADB wrote that trailer intro
>ADB wrote the Index Astartes page that featured Abaddon in the Ghost Wars
>ADB helped with writing the BL supplement
>ADB is writing the BL series

How come ADB was given such a major role of shaping like arguably most important character in the setting next the Emperor. Wait...ADB even shaped the character of the Emperor. Is ADB's writing that good?

Will he write or help in writing the Cadia Fall lore? Are you hyped?

What are the odds of getting a specific psychic power on a ml3 psyker?

I just worked it out, and it seems like 1/2, but I'd like someone to check my math.

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>>50792676
not the same anon but i think he was talking about this

>>50792855
If Carnac wasn't an autistic fucknut who sucks the dick of BL, this shit wouldn't happen. In fact. If he wasn't here, full stop, it wouldn't happen.

>>50792891
That's a Blood Bowl Human model.

>>50792676
>SoB used to be anti-Marines.

I just opened the sister fluff page. It says among their duties is hunting renegade marines.

>>50792867
Forgot to quote >>50792745
Didn't mean to invalidate what you said, more Legions are cool. I just think it's unlikely because of Traitor Legions, but them again, BL is in there too.

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>>50792883
'no' is the answer to your first question.

>>50792883
If ADB gets to write the Cadia fall lore you can bet your ass it's gonna turn out that the Emperor was a hot waifu all this time

ADB has his moments, but some of his staple inclusions when writing a story can get annoying when you read too much from his work

>>50792844
Without a proper assault transport the sisters of silence are kind of irrelevant.

Aside from that it'll work, but be mediocre. Battle sisters are kind of boring as an army. And hereticus inquisitors are easily the least interesting of the ordos from a gameplay perspective.

>>50792891
I might be wrong, but......it looks like a new ork miniature of sorts?

>>50792798
Where the fuck is that coming from? Scoria gets 4 attack with no charge. 2 will hit. 4 wounds from that. Doing around 2.64 wounds with just the vodian scepter. This isn't including the extra attacks from the machinator array. Corax will be dead in 2-3 rounds.

>>50792908
That's what I meant. Renegade Marines. So, anti-Marines.

Who knows? Who cares any more.

>>50792936
Nah it looks like a blood bowl mini desu

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>>50792936
No. It isn't 40k at all.

>>50792929
Why would anyone hate the blood magpies?

>>50792972
welp thats one question answered. now onto the next one.

>>50792605

This is pretty weird sarcasm unless you're completely unable to parse the difference between an asthetically pleasing busy model and an outright mess.

>>50792946
Yeah, thought so. No idea how Corax holds up at all, even if he hit and runs he gets some AP3 HOR and some AP3 shooting in return for getting nailed by Scoria's 4 weapons on Overwatch, which barely helps at all. Not sure where he's coming from there.

Horus is a close fight, but still dies a lot, since if Scoria takes no wounds R1 he wins.

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>>50792891
Duncan's eyes look red... has he been crying?

Oh no! What could he be crying over?
Is the new SoB release that bad?!

>>50792983
Because he and Laurie Goulding are buttbuddies and they didn't like the original stories about them that hinted they were 1k Sons loyalists. So Goulding and ADB went out of their way to destroy this.

>>50792888
An ML3 psyker means he gets three rolls, re-rolling taken powers, right?

The chance of him rolling it equals one minus the chance of him not rolling it, so P = (1 - ((5/6)*(4/5)*(3/4)) = 1/2. You're right.

So in the 2016 in a wrap video they mention that all factions get to have a part in the Gathering storm so what the fuck are tau doing on Cadia?

>>50792989
Or, it's canon to the type of shit you'd expect to see and subjectivism is a funny thing?

Who knows. Who cares? Everything is shit!

>>50793027
Sweet, thanks.

>>50793008
He always looks like that.

>>50793008
probably just tired cause he seems to be painting a model thats already been finished and they probably been shooting for like 3 hours cause someone messed up there lines.

>>50792983
He doesn't hate the Blood Ravens. He hates that Graham McNeil and Relic are heavily hinting ( as in hitting you with the head with it) that the Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons.

He says that ruins the setting because 40K is meant to have its mysteries and not everything needs to be spelled out. He even takes a dig at the Blood Raven = Thousand Sons crowd subtly in his MoM afterwards as not getting the idea of 40K.

ADB has tried to stop Graham from hinting any thing further in the BL meetings. Laurie Goulding even jokingly comments hates the Blood Raven = Thousand Sons thing. Also I think he said that at one point he will disprove the connection between the BR and TS if he gets the chance in one of his books.

>>50793008

Never got high and painted minis, anon?

That's some comfy shit.

>>50793028
Farsight goes to fight Chaos because lol it's evil. They do End Times and all the factions team up to fight Chaos. But still lose.

Because GRIMDERP.

>>50793012
Only ADB. Laurie Goulding doesn't really care.

>>50793074
>He says that ruins the setting because 40K is meant to have its mysteries and not everything needs to be spelled out.
Error 404 irony not found.

>>50793074
>ADB says he likes mysteries
>says how X Y and Z happens/happened

ADB is a lying scumbag who backpeddles when people call him out on his shit. He says he loves mysteries, but goes out of his way to answer mysteries to his own fucking fanwank. MoM is the perfect example of this.

>>50793074
So given that he doesn't dislike taking the mystery out of things when he writes it, it sounds like just whining that he didn't think of it first.

>>50793078
so does the fact that 40k got to end times in less editions than whfb mean we are the lesser game?

>>50793074
Go home ADB, you're drunk. Goulding won't fuck you if you don't write some more pro-Chaos fanwank!

>>50793099
>MoM is the perfect example of this.

Actually, in the forum posts and the Afterword he says that he went out of his way to keep the mystery of the Emperor from being revealed and also to obscure his origins.

>>50793108
No. WHFB was the testing bed for End Times. They realised not releasing a point system on Day 1 really fucked them over. Let's hope that people prefer eternal stalemates rather than Chaos wins because GRIMDERP.

>>50793074
Laurie Goulding even jokingly comments on how ADB hates the Blood Raven = Thousand Sons thing*

>>50793118
Fuck off mate. Go read the first paragraph of the afterworld again and tell me thats mysterious.

>>50793118
You misunderstand. In his afterword, he explains that the HH doesn't matter. He says (via Emperor) that Horus doesn't matter. He says that humanity was fucked by Chaos destroying the webway project.

That means the next 10k years and the HH are utterly irrelevant. Instead of leaving with the Emperor going "I don't know" regarding what happens next. He then explains in his out of setting afterword that the destruction of the webway project has fucked humanity and the HH et al doesn't matter.

Terrible.

>>50792930

40k was always about waifus tho

>>50793118
"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."

SO MYSTERIOUS! RIGHT AFTER WE LEARNT THE WEBWAY IS DESTROYED. GEE. WHAT COULD THE RESULT BE? :O

>>50793118

>literally has a scene of the village in which the emperor was born and what he did as a kid

well seems like he still fucked up on that part.

Also ADB tried to stop the whole thing about Tyranids being attracted to the galaxy thanks to the Pharos exploding in the HH. But they didn't listen and they went with it. He is the hero this setting needs.

>The initial "Oh, look..." for the Tyranids should probably be because of the loudest, brightest light in the galaxy, no? Something that would attract the Great Devourer's attention? Maybe something like the manifest psychic energy of hundreds of dying psykers every day channelled through the will of a living god acting as the salvation of Mankind and the reason Warp travel is possible. The Emperor's psychic might, reaching across fifty thousand light years of the galaxy, illuminating the darkness of the Warp. It's even called "the Ray of Hope", and it's heralding the galaxy's death from beyond the galactic rim. That's thematically beautiful. That's pure 40K.

>Rather than, say, an infinitely lesser artefact getting switched on and off.

>>I mean, I get it. It's a hook and it makes yet another 40K trope have "more important" roots in the Heresy, and is yet another example of 40K ignorance, and the whole point of 40K is ignorance. But it's not particularly thematically strong, the same way Darth Vader building C3-P0 certainly helped continuity but didn't actually add anything. Sometimes the old lore we've loved for 25+ years is good enough not to change. The Tyranids coming to the galaxy, drawn by the Emperor's light, is awesome and a major factor in their lore since they started getting lore.

>>Though, again, I feel comfortable enough revealing all this because eight squilllion of these conversations happen all the time (this one happened long before Guy even joined the team, for example) and winning or losing them runs about equal. Then there are the ones you win which you regret winning, and the ones you lose which you decide you prefer after all. It's a bizarre amount of fun.

-ADB on Guy Haley's "HH : Pharos"

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>>50793169
no, 40k was always about humanity fighting a desperate battle within and without set to heavy metal and extreme badass action not your waifu shit

>>50793118
>it's a shitpost pretends ADB is good meme

Fed up of this meme. It's disgusting.

>>50793185
How do you know that scene was actually something that happened and wasn't some sort of fabrication he created to manipulate the guy whom he is going to use to contain a terrible apocalyptic daemon?

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>>50793169
ultramar produces the best waifus

>>50793203
We don't care Carnac. Piss off.

>>50793206

That's the most nonsensical thing since the failbaddon meme. /tg/ itself has always been at the forefront of waifuism, look at the suptg archives starting from the beginning

>>50793233
You care. Look at the last paragraph. ADB fights to keep 40K how it meant to be. Cheer for him!

>>50793179

It was always supposed to be like this you dolts. Even Order is just a small fragment of Chaos in Warhammer. No true oldfag was surprised by the End Times, or the fact that Imperium is doomed.

>>50793264
Did I fucking stutter?

>>50793282
I don't hear you cheering!

>>50792930
>waifu
Is there any ADB book that doesn't include waifu shit?

>>50793278
>it's a Carnac doesn't understand why people are annoyed episode

Fed up of these re-runs desu.

>>50792852
I also didnt factor in Coraxs chance to blind or fear either, or his vector strike, but did use his shadow walk(which lasts a game turn) using with scourge(which is only player turn) for +d3 attacks and d3 hammer of wrath hits.

I didnt factor in the overwacth from the pistols because they do 0.02 wounds in total. Forgot about the photon thruster, but they do 0.22 in total. Not enough to tip the scales.

I did forget about the no IWND, which in my original calculations did get Corax a wound back.

Corax has 7 WS8 attacks on the charge with Shred and Blind at S7 AP2, plus d3 S5 AP3 HoW, then shadows walks. Next round he's at S6 AP2 WS7 with shred with 6 +d3 scourge attacks(shadow walk is still functioning). Then Hits and runs away and repeats. The two rounds on the charge he does 3 unsaved and the two rounds he scourges he does 3 unsaved wounds.
He has two 8.3% chances to cause fear and four 16.7% chances to blind.

>>50792998
Scoria does 1.3 wounds to corax each round, he hits 1.3 times, not 2. then corax has a 5++ an takes 1.3 wounds. Across 3 rounds that 3.9, because corax kills him before he swings in round 4

>>50793301
That's not Carnac doe.

>>50793298
Ragnar Blackmane.

>>50793312
It literally is. And even if it isn't, just as cancerous for not understanding the problem.

40k endtimes happen, but on the brink of defeat [insert your favorite hero] [insert some epic bullshit] and the whole warp buckles and real (relative? No one knows really) time reverts back to 999.M40.

>GW gets soft rest on setting without outright curbing any faction etc

>>50793224
I don't. I don't even acknowledge MoM as legit lore, or a part of the HH series, but just a piece of fanfic wankeroo. Even the old Rogue trader lore about the HH makes more sense in regards to the setting than MoM

>"MUH MYSTERY REEEEE"
>Invalidates Horus, the traitors, and what happens the next 10.000 years

>>50792855
fluffposters should have their own autistic threads

>>50793238
/tg/ maybe. 40k itself, not so much.

>>50793322
>That SJW tier logic at work

Then explain your issue instead of letting people guess at it.

>>50793227
That looks like Mass Effect.

>>50793350
She's just got sand in her vag. You can't expect women to come out and actually tell you whats wrong.

>>50793343
Ruleposters shitpost more though and more regularly.

>>50793298
>Is there any ADB book that doesn't include waifu shit?
Seeing as /tg/ will stick it in anything, no.

>>50792770
>I have proof, I just can't show you
>but you need to prove a tangentially related thing because reasons
>but your the one who's pulling shit out of thin air
Just admit you don't have it carnac and stop replying

>they say the imperial guard's greatest strength is their sheer numbers
how viable are conscripts /40k/? on one hand they're probably the single worst unit in terms of stats, but on the other hand they're 3 points a piece. you can easily field 200+ in a 2000 point game, and the pure amount of shots would be ridiculous.

BL isnt canon we all know this just stop caring about it and wait for GW to retcon their shit tier stories.

>Inb4 inevitable "B..but it is tho Gouldstein told me so!"
No.

>>50793350
Mate, it's been explained in about half a dozen threads why it's a problem. People ignoring what dozens of people have said for the sake of (You)'s is cancerous.

>>50792855
>>50793343
>not enjoying carnac getting trolled and being unable to worm his way out of it for once.
Sad!

>>50793379
So you are saying that WHFB doesn't say that Chaos was going to win making your demand for proof in the same line from 40K void? Alright then.

>>50793381

Put a priest in them to make them fearless and they're probably the best tarpit in the game.

>>50793402
You're an idiot if you still believe Carnac is actually a person.

>>50793427
Shut up, Carnac.

>>50793414
that still isn't proof carnac. Either give it or admit your wrong

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>>50793402
Has anyone on this board ever tried to emulate donald trump's unique shitposting style?

Your post reminds me of his.

>>50793379
see
>>50793162

ADB (Guy who is apprently writing the plot for the current story arc) says not in a characters voice but in his own in the afterword that Chaos wins Humanit loses.

>>50793427
Except he most certainly is.
IIRC he used to namefag as TIDF.
This has been gone over many times new friend

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>>50792651
Well the concept has been kicking around 40k for a while.

>>50793381
>on one hand they're probably the single worst unit in terms of stats

Grots.

Spore Mines.

The problem with Conscripts is they're tied to Infantry Platoons. You can't take them on their own - and since you already have to bring two 10-man Infantry Squads, IMO you're better off investing the points in buying three more and just fielding 50-strong blobs or regular Guardsmen.

>Fall of Cadia
So will my Cadian army become obsolete?

>>50793450
You first. If you going build argument, you gotta complete it.

You cannot falsely claim that WHFB did something and 40K didn't and then demand of me to prove that 40K did when you built everything on a lie.

So you saying that WHFB and 40K are different from each other when it comes to the End Times is utterly false.

>>50793381
They're good. Get enough and make them fearless and you've got a good tarpit. Get 50 and throw some orders and Psychic powers at them and they can even start threatening stuff.

>>50793498
Fluff doesn't effect models.

>>50793470
>Except he most certainly is.

He is not, I know this because I myself have masqueraded as him in the past. "Carnac" is in fact an easily emulated posting style.

>>50793477
And in Fantasy, even earlier.

>>50793498
About as obsolete as the Space Wolves.

>>50793462
>not BL or a character speaking in lore
>uses BL as his source
You really are illiterate, aren't you? Give proof carnac, give them.
>>50793455
>implying it's hard to do
Normal anon wants to try something new, goes into a thread, imitates trump and the thread changes- SHITPOSTING. Many such cases

>>50793498
>implying that this isnt just some big thing to get us all riled up to then say "lol chaos loses"

>>50793462

Which is the point of Warhammer.
>41st millennium
>not being utterly destroyed by your dark nature

>>50793498
Why would it?

>>50793462
He arbitrary conditions out of his ass to hide the fact that he has no counter argument. Don't bother with him. He is a troll.

>>50793538
Oh that's most definitely true. Just suck chaos' dick

Post like this.

And people will think you're him. He's still most definitely real, if less common than these threads would make him out to be.

>>50793499
>ask for proof that fits certain criteria
>you're the one building an arguement, I don't need to post my proof
Either give it or stop replying.

>>50793498
No

>>50793539
Skyrar's Dark Wolves will be led by a Chaos Corrupted Leman Russ, Daemon Primarch of Khorne.

>>50793539
what happened in wrath of magnus im to lazy to read it. did Space wolves get BTFO?

>>50793540
You only won't take BL because of your severe mental deficiancies that don't allow you to comprehend that BL is the official canon of 40k and the most recent is the official canon until something retcons it. Whats the most recent? MoM thats right. Now why don't you go use your boyfriends cock as a pacifier like a good little girl and leave the grown up alone.

>>50793540
ADB isn't BL. He is a writer for BL and GW. He wrote GW and BL sources.

>>50791803
Yeah I'm Negan!

>>50793305
Forgot the array scoria has, he does about 5(but you can IWND the array wounds so probably about 4, also counting overwatch) unsaved wounds through to round 3, but dies before he swings on turn 4

>>50793581
>He arbitrary conditions out of his ass to hide the fact that he has no counter argument.
Are you implying that's unique anon? That's basically every fluff debate ever.

>>50793599
Magnus was slain by a Helfrost Cannon.

>>50793498
>cadia gets destroyed
>GW uses this as a way to launch plastic regiments

>>50791803
Alpha legion rules apply ever where.

>>50793599
magnus made an everything proof shield
chapter master sniktbub dickslapped him with his khornate axe
thousand sons players got kind of butthurt because the space wolves didn't get erased form the timeline forever like they were promised

the end

>>50793603
Still isn't what I asked for
>>50793605
>litteraly citing MoM, a BL novel
>totally not BL guys

>>50793599

End situation: The Planet of the Sorcerers was brought out of the Eye, lots of mutants running around on Fenris.

>>50793586
Already did more than enough to tear your argument apart.

And I am glad that people in this thread are also seeing through your trolly bullshit. Have a nice day.

>>50793498
"The 7895th Cadian 'Steelfisters' were off-world answering the Emperor's call for their expertise in another system when the 13th Black Crusade ravaged their homeworld. They now ardently seek vengeance against The Great Enemy at every opportunity, still bearing the regalia & transitions of their ancestral home."

There, your force is now future-proof.

>>50793599
Most of their fleet got killed, fucktton of Wolves died, Fenris got half turned into a daemon world with mutations all over the population.

Wolves manage to hold, but Magnus steals the power of Fenris to pull the Daemon Primarchs and the planet of the Sorcerers out of the Warp right next to Prospero.

Inquisition makes the wolves their bitch by killing off most of the remaining Fenrisians and the Space Wolves leave for Cadia to make a last stand because they can't get more Wolves.

Oh and a fuckload of Fallen escape the Rock due to the Changeling.

Is it wrong to field a wraithhost?

>>50793642
Still isn't it carnac. Until you provide such fluff, you haven't proven anything.
And if where going to pull ad populums here, then you lost a long fucking time ago.

>>50793616
Not always. That anon is just being a dick about it despite being proven wrong and literally having no argument other than dancing around whatever source he doesn't like.

>>50793650
so wolves are fucked but not fully destroyed got it.

Why do people get so salty over the fact that Chaos is the end bad guy?

>>50793681
Yup.

>>50793635
Afterword not part of the novel you sniveling little piece of moose dung. Get it through your incredibly thick skull to that peanut you call a brain that it is a legit source and you are a piece of shit.

>>50792584

Outta my way organic fucking shits

>>50793682
Because it isn't, Chaos is Chaos.

Bad guys are Dark Eldar.

>>50793669
Are you an idiot? The only source anyone has cited is MoM. It's not exactly uncommon for someone to say they'd like a source that isn't retcon library

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GW planned this shit in the 80's.

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Do you think the new saint model is VERY NEW... or do you think they designed it for like two years and it was on ice until now?!

>>50793707
Its pretty obvious that this is the kind of person that will only believe something if it comes out of Fox News or Trumps mouths.

>>50793690
>the afterword of a BL book
>not part of a BL book
Is the cover of a book also not part of a book? Or for that matter, this is the very same afterword where ADB litterally says that GW did not tell him to write all that, and that chaos winning was 100% his choice.

>>50791454
>Inquisitor Suresya espouses the Xanthite philosophy, even going so far as to openly wield a known daemon weapon called Kherez’phyr.
Suresya follows this pariah creed and surrounds himself with servants useful to him in the pursuance of its ends. His daemon blade is in fact the least of his heresies, and he wields it to draw attentions away from his true allegiance. In the field, Suresya uses the most wretched of technologies, including Warp-infused armour and infernal engines of destruction. His legion of gun-servitors are in fact heretical parodies of the constructs used by the Adeptus Mechanicus, created through a combination of daemonhost-summoning rites and forbidden technologies.

That moment when you are so heretical, waving around a frikkin daemon weapon is the socially acceptable alternative.