/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest

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19th December in military history:

211 – Publius Septimius Geta, co-emperor of Rome, is lured to come without his bodyguards to meet his brother Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (Caracalla), to discuss a possible reconciliation. When he arrives, the Praetorian Guard murders him and he dies in the arms of his mother, Julia Domna.
1562 – The Battle of Dreux takes place during the French Wars of Religion.
1675 – The Great Swamp Fight, a pivotal battle in King Philip's War, gives the English settlers a bitterly won victory.
1777 – American Revolutionary War: George Washington's Continental Army goes into winter quarters at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.
1796 – French Revolutionary Wars: Two British frigates under Commodore Horatio Nelson and two Spanish frigates under Commodore Don Jacobo Stuart engage in battle off the coast of Murcia.
1941 – World War II: Adolf Hitler appoints himself as head of the Oberkommando des Heeres.
1941 – World War II: Limpet mines placed by Italian divers heavily damage the HMS Valiant and HMS Queen Elizabeth in Alexandria harbour.
1946 – Start of the First Indochina War.

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It is 75 years since the Raid on Alexandria, a covert operation by Italian Navy divers of the Decima Flottiglia MAS, who attacked and disabled (but did not sink) two Royal Navy battleships in the harbour of Alexandria, Egypt, using manned torpedoes.

The submarine Scirè of the Italian Royal Navy had left La Spezia on December 3rd, carrying three manned torpedoes, nicknamed maiali (pigs) by the Italians. At the island of Leros, the submarine secretly picked up six crewmen for them: Luigi Durand de la Penne and Emilio Bianchi (nº 221), Vincenzo Martellotta and Mario Marino (nº 222), and Antonio Marceglia and Spartaco Schergat (nº 223).

On the 19th, Scirè—at a depth of 15 m (49 ft)—released the manned torpedoes 1.3 mi (1.1 nmi; 2.1 km) from Alexandria commercial harbour, and they entered the naval base when the British opened their defenses to let three of their destroyers pass. There were many difficulties for de la Penne and Bianchi. First, the engine of the torpedo stopped and the two frogmen had to manually push it; then Bianchi had to surface due to problems with the oxygen provider, so that de la Penne had to push Maiale alone to where HMS Valiant lay. There he successfully placed the limpet mine, just under the hull of the battleship. However, as they both had to surface, and as Bianchi was hurt, they were discovered and captured.

Questioned, both of them kept silent, and they were confined in a compartment aboard Valiant, under the sea level, and coincidentally just over the place where the mine had been placed. Fifteen minutes before the explosion, de la Penne asked to meet with Valiant's captain Charles Morgan and then told him of the imminent explosion but refused to give further information, so that he was returned to the compartment. Fortunately for the Italians, when the mine exploded just before them, neither he nor Bianchi were severely injured by the blast, while de la Penne only received a minor injury to the head by a ship chain.

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>>50769700
Meanwhile, Marceglia and Schergat had attached their device five feet beneath the battleship HMS Queen Elizabeth's keel as scheduled. They successfully left the harbour area at 4:30 am, and slipped through Alexandria posing as French sailors. They were captured two days later at Rosetta by the Egyptian police while awaiting rescue by Scirè and handed over to the British.

Martellota and Marino searched in vain for an aircraft carrier purportedly moored at Alexandria, but after some time they decided to attack a large tanker, the 7,554 gross register ton Norwegian Sagona. Marino fixed the mine under the tanker's stern at 02:55. Both divers managed to land unmolested, but were eventually arrested at an Egyptian police checkpoint.

In the end, all the divers were made prisoners, but not before their mines exploded, severely damaging both HMS Queen Elizabeth and Valiant, disabling them for nine and six months respectively. Sagona lost her stern section and the destroyer HMS Jervis, one of four alongside her refuelling, was badly damaged. Neither of the two capital ships sank but they were out of action for some time.

This represented a dramatic change of fortunes against the Allies from the strategic point of view during the next six months. The Italian fleet had temporarily wrested naval supremacy in the east-central Mediterranean from the Royal Navy.

When most wargamers think of WW2 special forces, it's guys like the Brandenburgers, Rangers or Commandos. But there were some other fascinating groups too, such as these redoutable Italian frogmen. The Decima Flottiglia MAS makes an interesting choice for a gamer looking for something a bit different.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/bz29u7nhk3hapr8/Osprey+-+ELI+191+-+Italian+Navy+%26+Air+Force+Elite+Units+%26+Special+Forces+1940-45.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decima_Flottiglia_MAS

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This week also marks a century since the end of the Battle of Verdun. This colossal slaughter, which had begun on the 21st February, was one of the largest and longest battles of the First World War on the Western Front between the German and French armies. The battle took place on the hills north of Verdun-sur-Meuse in north-eastern France. The German 5th Army attacked the defences of the Région Fortifiée de Verdun and those of the French Second Army on the right bank of the Meuse. Inspired by the experience of the Second Battle of Champagne the year before, the Germans planned to rapidly capture the Meuse Heights, providing them with an excellent defensive position that would also allow them to bombard Verdun with observed artillery fire. The Germans hoped that the French would commit their strategic reserve to recapture the position and suffer catastrophic losses in a battle of attrition, as the Germans would have a tactical advantage. But this plan backfired as the Germans found themselves increasingly committed and were soon trapped in the same meatgrinder that they made for the French. The bitterly won defense became an immortal legend in France.

It lasted for 303 days and became the longest and one of the most costly battles in human history. An estimate in 2000 found a total of 714,231 casualties, 377,231 French and 337,000 German, for an average of 70,000 casualties a month; other recent estimates increase the number of casualties to 976,000, during the battle, with 1,250,000 suffered at Verdun during the war.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kt148ya1f1r3kmy/Osprey+-+CAM+093+-+Verdun+1916.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun

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>A Challenger appears!
Tiny tonks make tiny mould lines that are hard to clean :(

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>>50769855
daaaang thats small!

Just finished painting a batch of Chinese infantry for ostfront. Nuln oil is the shit. Next step is basing them, I have some balsa wood I cut into tiny bricks to use as street rubble - going to aim for a Shanghai-style basing of city rubble.

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To the Netherlands anon who got Edinburgh, the parcels arrived.

I think I'm gonna wait till Christmas to open this.

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I made some progress on my SS gift.

Since i don't have any Brits for Bolt Action in my possession i had to convert the universal carrier a little bit, but with new heads for the minis, an additional passenger and a couple of bits inside the vehicle it looks very soviet (at least to me).

Thanks again for your gift Anon, i probably would not have bought an universal carrier for my Soviets, but now after having it built i think its a really nice looking addition to my existing forces.

>>50770211
looks awesome man! soviet bren is legit. They had 2500 shipped from canada, among others

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DVG are on KS for a game called Sherman Leader, it's a solo game apparently which is good if you're a sad loner who can't find any gaming buddies like me ;_;

Interestingly you can add about $80 worth of GHQ minis as a $60 addon to replace the counters.

https://www.[START THE KICKS].com/projects/11606594/sherman-leader

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>>50770303
From that name and layout I'm assuming it's a ground version of Thunderbolt/Apache Leader and friends

>>50770335
Same company, so yeah.

>>50770303
That looks really interesting.

I wonder why they did a Sherman-specific game though, instead of giving the player the option for other tanks (nations) as well. (But maybe that comes in the future).

The game seems very similar to "Pattons Best".

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>>50770359
Good stuff, those are quality games

>tfw playing Conqueror on my uncle's Archimedes in the 80s rolling through the pixelated bocage in my lil Sherman hoping I don't ram right into a Tiger

Solitaire tank gaming is great

>>50770115
>Nuln oil is the shit.
Good, good.

I'm using the Army Painter inks - they have a range of colours, two of which are basically identical to the GW Classic Liquid Skill colours. I haven't tried the new inks since GW redid their paint line though.

>>50770335
Probably closer to Tiger Leader, again from DVG, but I've heard it's not as solid as Hornet/Phantom/Thunderbolt Apache Leader - the air games got the best design work. The Sub Leader games are apparently... sub-par.

TAL is fucking magic, though. Also has an optional upgrade pack of 3mm oddzial osmy minis to replace its counters, but I never bothered with that.

...I really should play the Cthulhu expansion for Hornet Leader one of these days. It has sanity rules in addition to the regular stress, and nuclear weapons.

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I found Pax Britannica real cheap used

What the hell have I gotten myself into?

>>50772459
That looks a bit like Twilight Struggle: WWI edition.

>>50772707
Except it's for seven players and if WW1 breaks out the game ends immediately

>>50770115
Still needs highlights mate... looks lazy. Better effort than a lot of people though but the bar is not very high.

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>>50770303
>>50770335
>>50770391
>>50771900

Its the allied version of DVGs Tiger Leader they released last year. Pretty solid game. uses a campaign system similar to what was in Thunderbolt Apache Leader.

Tiger Leader had SOME issues when it was released. There was a couple of unit cards that didnt get added in. a couple other minor issues. A kit was made to fix those issues and kick starter backers got it for free.

Dan is taking the issues that happened with Tiger Leader and making sure the same dont happen with Sherman Leader. its a solid system. I want to get both TL and SL.

If your a tank guy this game may appeal to you.

and a video from one of the few trusted reviewers I really like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJ62kMuTk0

>>50775469
I just saw that on their website.. $90.. wow.

>>50770138
Good to hear it arrived I had no clue waht you played/liked so I just bought stuff I wanted.. Mine hasnt arrived yet so I hope it gets here before Christmas.

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>>50775482
Big box. a lot there. in my mind it worth it.

>>50775740
I see.

How is the quality of these cards? Good/thick paper or do they feel cheap?

>>50775760
good and thick..fiberweave if i remember correct. check out the video review i posted in >>50775469

>>50775994
I'll watch it later, not much time to do it right now.

But if i like it i might get another christmas present for myself.

BRDM

>>50774793
Very nice weathering. Is that a Hungarian roundel?

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>>50779057
Looks Ivorian to me, which makes sense considering the desert scheme/basing.

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>>50779218
yeah I think you're right there anon

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Really Consim Press? 1 sheet of counters in "The Hunters" and a good 25-30% of them are blank?

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>>50770211
Needs more passengers. You can fit at least another 5 or 6 guys in there.

Any word on whether Perry is doing another Battle in a Box deal? I would love to see one for any of their plastic ranges, and a WW2 one would be amazing.

>>50780977
Too many for a half-sheet and doing a half sheet and a smaller custom was more expensive?

>>50783216
thats the only thing i can think of. has got to be.

>>50781897
How do they manage to make riding on an open topped afv look dignified?

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sooooo nice and neat once they are clipped

>>50781897
Those aren't heroic scale minis though.

>>50783188
I think the plan for the next one was either HYW or WotR but by no means take my word for it.

>>50769705

It would have been interesting to point out that the "name" was inherited by a warlord-like late war military unit (particularly beloved by Italian neofascist, as it was at least competent) led by Junio Valerio Scipione Ghezzo Marcantonio Maria dei principi Borghese. Yep, when the Fascist regime collapsed a italian noble took up recruiting people as a private army and struck a deal for equipment with the Germans. He was employed in anti-partisan activities and was completely out of the Fascist republican control - a common theme in civil wars, as we see today in Ukraine and Syria-. Even if it was never employed against the Allies, I swear there are some good models of them around.

Tbh, barely hal of the "original" X MAS remained under Borghese: a good number defected to the Kingdom of the South.

Ironically enough, Boghese would have been the CIA choice for a military dictatorship in Italy, and the tried in 1970: the myth goes that the Italian prime minister of the time, Andreotti, managed to get the Americans to support him and even suceeded in poisoning Borghese years later.

The history of NATO minors is fun.

>>50769679
see this cool badge, no idea what it is. aethstetic

>axis italian commandos

Why do the allies not have any cool imagery?

Fucking nazis and their allies, looking cool and shit

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>>50786274
> 'Hey Luigi, have-a you looked at our-a badges recently?'
> 'Our badges?'
> 'The badges on-a our jackets, have-a you looked at them?'
> 'What? No? A bit?'
> 'They've-a got skulls on them'
> 'Hmm?'
> 'Have-a you noticed that our-a badges have-a little pictures of skulls on them?'
> 'I don't-a...'
> 'Luigi, are-a we the bad-a guys?'

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>>50786264
Borghese is of course a famous Italian house, one member of whom had been married to Napoleon's stunningly beautiful sister Pauline.

I've read a little bit about Junio Valerio in the context of the Gladio Organization, and the crazy secret war stuff happening in Italy during the '60s and '70s.

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>>50786274
The LRDG had a sexy scorpion

>>50786321
Skulls are a symbol for badass, not for bad.

>>50786321
A skull on a military unit seems honest IMO.

>>50786334
That is pretty cool

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>>50786338
Anon was riffing on an old Mitchell and Webb sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

When it comes to skulls on things I'm a big Brunswicker fan, although the Prussian Death's Uhlans certainly deserve a nod.

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>>50786326
I had no idea they survived past the Renaissance.

has anyone got Deus Dult burn & loot?

>>50786338
I don't know, the SS were fond of wearing both skulls AND black, and most of them were shit.

>>50788976
A common misconception. Black uniforms weren't overly common among the SS and only used for a short period before the actual war.

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Can anyone reccomand a ww2 hex and chit game where counters equal approximately a platoon? Im looking for a source of scenarios for FFoT3 and using a hex and chit game would be easy. I already know about the Panzer Grenadier series; anything else out there?

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Did you get yourself anything /hwg/ for Christmas?

I ordered some 6mm WWII

>>50789806
I used the Topside Minis promo to order the Coronel and Falkland islands set.

http://topsideminis.com/product/fatal-choices-coronel-falkland-islands-battle-set-2/

I didn't really need any counters for WWII stuff because I'm already invested in models, but I have no WWI stuff. Seemed like a decent investment.

>>50789596
Mm. Try some of the stuff from lock 'n' load games, World at War is platoon-per-chit (mostly - I think some units are handled differently) ww3, and I think Nations at War is the ww2 version - there are a lot of games, expansions, and scenarios.

>>50789907
they make good games, in general, although the main lock 'n' load series is squad level stuff.

they also have nuklear winter '68, which is platoon level... and a bit weird. basically ww2 went nuclear in europe, the nazis retreated underground and everyone else walled off the radioactive hellscape, now it's years later and nato (including the russians?) are peeking in, the nazis are peeking out, and oh hi there are mutants as a third party. it comes with a campaign that seems fairly short, looking at the dates and timeline - after all, the nazis can't hold out for long even with whatever wunderwaffe bullshit they've got, but it's pretty neat.

>>50789806
Got me some more War of the Roses cavalry and some European infantry to round out my army.

>>50789806
>Did you get yourself anything /hwg/ for Christmas?
tfw not allowing myself to buy anymore until I clear my backlog.

I wish.

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>>50789806
Grabbing myself a pair of 15mm armies for my made up african nation.

Armoured cars for days.

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>>50789806
>tfw i can't buy anything for myself becasue i haven't bought anyone else in my family anything

>>50789596
gawd..tons of them out there to be honest.
Panzer Blitz/Panzer Leader, Panzer Grenadier like you mentioned, Tactical Command System (TCS) from MMP, Tank Leader series from West End Games, any of the Death Ride series,

list goes on. Just goggle platton level games wwII....

I don't know if we ever decided on what should be the current project, given the food project rolled over. I'd propose if we didn't decide, that we come up with some ideas and vote, with the idea that this next project will start the 1st of Jan, and roll over at the end of the month.

>>50790610
>>50789907
Thanks for the tips. I tried to goggle platoon level hex/chit games but only found results where you control a platoon. Phone posting from work so that's part of my problem

>>50790610
I've just watched the Tiger Leader review you recommended as well as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQ5QyEwNc0

Seems like a really good game, both guys recommend and like it.
Maybe i should get last minute gift for myself.

>>50791415
Generally an 'X-level' game means that X is the type of unit you're in control of (e.g. squad-level makes you a squad commander, platoon-level makes you a platoon commander with several squads etc.), so to command individual platoons you probably want company or maybe battalion-level games.

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>>50791809
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQ5QyEwNc0
well..thats the one Dan did for his own game..so yeah they are going to hype it. But yeah..its a good solid game. worth it and fun especially if you are a solo gamer

and you get to drive tigers! everyone should have a chance to drive a tiger at one point in their lives!

>>50791415
hit the folders in OP. the SPI and Avalon Hill folders. should be able to find some in there....S&T magazine folder....GDW folder....

>>50792711
>well..thats the one Dan did for his own game.

So thats the guy behind the Leader games? I didn't know that.

Regenboogforel has your secret santa arrived? Posted it 2 weeks ago now so I'm getting nervous.

>>50793307
as of today it hasn't arrived yet. Getting pretty nervous on my end as well. Hope the mail is just swamped and it'll arrive soon.

>>50793387
>Hope the mail is just swamped

You can bet it is.

>>50793387
It's international and we've had some postal strikes in the last week but I was hoping it would have snuck through as I sent it on the 6th or 7th which I thought would be early enough.

If it never turns up let me know, we'll sort something out.

>>50793436
My package to scotland arrived a couple of days back according to edinburgh anon, but shit happens. How do I summon you oh mighty Hampshire anon. I'll keep on waiting till after new year and after that well figure something out.

You sound like a nice dude

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>>50793692
>How do I summon you oh mighty Hampshire anon.
Rumour has it if you say my name three times whilst holding a photo or painting of the battle of Talavera that should do the trick.

>>50792739
Oh shit...my bad..I just saw the splash screen and though that was the one Dan did for Tiger Leader...sorry for the confusion

>>50792711
The stats of these tanks seem strange:
Attack 9 for the Pz 1, 6 for Pz4D, 5 for the Jagdpanther and 3 for the Tiger?

Lowest value is best? Why has the Tiger a better damage value than the Jagdpanther then?
Highest is best? Why has the Pz 1 a 3 times higher value than the Tiger?

>>50794134
The attack value is what you need to roll or higher on a D10 to score a hit. For every hit scored you pull a chit to see what the damage to the target is.

There are some modifiers that will give extra dice rolls.

So the Tiger would get 1 dice at 3 or better to hit.
The JgdPanter would get 1 dice...+1 to the dice roll if its a vehicle..and get a 2nd dice if it is stationary...so if its stationary and firing at a vehicle it gets 2 dice at a 4+ to hit

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>>50793692
>How do I summon you oh mighty Hampshire anon

Another Hampshire anon here, you need to mention A Fistful of TOWs.

...now to wait for the other 3...or more... other Hampshire anons.

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>>50796045
This thread needs more fortifications.

I need more fortifications

>>50798088
always loved Vauban's designs

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Bump

>>50799093
Legit. They're like medals of valor pinned onto the land itself.

>>50789806
Imex's Korean War box with 6 sets of figures. Will be used as ARVN and NVA/VC for the Vietnam war and potentially late war WW2 figures with minor conversions. Other than that, HeroQuest.

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>>50800493
SPI produced a game called Lille (which sadly we don't have), covering the 1708 siege of that city. Its map, one of the most popular SPI produced, was literally a Vauban plan with dots added to mark unit placings.

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>>50802036
a detail
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/12218/lille

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i bought the TANKS game. If you guys are interested i can scan the rules or cards. Though nor sure how i feel about supporting potential freeloaders. All-in you can own the complete game with for casual use for +-50 euros.

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>>50786321

The idea of having a skull as a symbol of daring in the Italian armed forces comes from the WW1 Arditi ("Those Who Dare"), a stormtrooper-like force of volunteers, picked among the craziest soldiers and trained to assault austro-hungarian trenches with daggers and grenades.

The Arditi had a huge impact on the popular culture of the politically-troubled 1920s Italy, and their imagery was co-opted by both fascists and anti-fascists alike.

Even today the Italian navy has a special forces unit nicknamed "Arditi Incursori" ("Daring Raiders") who are more or less the indirect heirs of the X MAS: the "COMSUBIN Teseo Tesei" ("Teseo Tesei Diver and Raider Command Group")

>>50802507
>US tank force
>Comet

wat

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>>50802526
>Arditi
Gotta love that assault armour they had
Dudes were intense

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>>50798088
>>50802036
>>50802053

Why are star forts so sexy?

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>>50802565
The pleasing symmetry, perhaps?

Those glacis would have been terrible places to assault. There's a particularly horrible word: "flense"; it means to strip the flesh from a bone, and it's used by to describe what happens when a body of troops climb a glacis into grapeshot fire. Cornwell uses it a bit in Sharpe, and it always conjured the most horrible mental image for me.

>>50802541
gotta love them comets :) Also i wanted to turn it into a british force, but then because i couldnt be bothered with the black camo i had in mind.. i went for a US force. It was either the Pershing or the Comet which was going to be a problem

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>>50790074
>>50790154

>>50803695
Go home olliver you are drunk and your son is a dummy.

>>50803695
jokes on you, clearing a backlog can be fun and rewarding

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to go along with the climate outside I've started a German Winter force. first two squads are done (I don't paint eyes)

>>50804261
the basing is fantastic, sparse - the snow looks like proper trudged through sludge.

I'm not convinced by the brown wash on the white is my one criticism, it doesn't really look dirty like I think it is meant to.

>>50804261
They look great Anon.
My only (minor) complaint is the wood on some of the rifles. It looks almost orange. (I know that real rifles can come in that color, but for such a grim looking winter force a different brown might have been a better choice).

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>>50804523
that was done deliberately, since I want to use them for the upcoming Battle of The Bulge Bolt Action campaign book mostly. And there were a lot of new troops with new equipment deployed, hence the fairly high amount of pristine rifles. the next squad will have a more rag tag look to it to.

>>50804310
yeah from close up on the photo it looks a little bit to pronounced. the edges are too sharp. unfortunately I can't change that anymore.

reposting my Stug to go along with the infantry.

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>>50804639
When wearing full white winter suits the germans often used small red or green arm wrists to easiler tell friends and foes apart.

>>50804801
oh cool thx, will incorporate that in my next squad!

>>50790154
If they wanted presents they should have asked for grenadiers

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>>50805229
is wrong to to try work out what people are getting me and then buy them presents while trying to make a profit out of it?

>>50805323
yes

>>50805323

Yes.

>>50805323
No.

>>50805323
Yes.

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>>50789806
Nope.

Didn't get myself anything not /hwg/ either, can't afford to do that and give family/friends things. Still trying (somewhat in vain.) to get to use things I already have. image unrelated though I'd love to get some 15mm late medieval gaming going too.

>>50805323

Yes.

>Also, I'll be late with the /hwg secret santa opening-the-gift pics. I'm out of town till next Monday for a gig. My Christmas is likely going to be next Tuesday night, so I'll post stuff on Tuesday. We now return you to your overly-busy holiday season.

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>tfw every year i end up buying lottery tickets as gifts

Guess that it is more than bit uncreative but given that some far no one has complained (nor actually won anything but lets not talk about that) I think that it is working.

>>50805323
No but it is more Jewish than a synagogue full of bankers desu.

>>50804261
How did you do the snow? I've got some winter figs to paint up and was going to try to do a similar sparse snow effect so they can be used for late autumn through early spring

Hello everybody. I stumbled upon the rule book called crossfire. After I watched lindybeige explain it and wanted to test it. So I thought I could buy a starter kit of some other game and play it and also enjoy the rules from the game I bought. Any ideas? I was thinking of "bolt action" or maybe "flames of war".

>>50806228
first base with sand. then brown flock and/or black colour.
then I put PVA glue on the spots I wanted the snow and sprinkled snow on. then I used watered down PVA on the lumps of snow, let it dry and then used gloss varnish on some spots to give it a shiny effect.

>>50806266
crossfire is 28mm isn't it?

So Bolt Action would be the one to got.

>>50806266
I'd recommend picking up two boxes of cheap 1:72 figures, or maybe Italeri's Bastogne kit that comes with some fairly minimal terrain, artillery and vehicles.

>>50806358
Which brand of 1:72 models do you recommend in that case?

>>50806266
>Crossfire
Watch out, don't get caught up in it.


Any word on what the next community project will be?

>>50806453
Depends on what theatre would you like to do. Plastic Soldier Company's hard plastics are a good start as they have heavy weapons for almost everyone (EXCEPT FOR THE FUCKING BRITS), and you get a good number of poses. Italeri is a good choice as well, but there are tons of manufacturers out there doing lovely stuffs.

>>50806358
given the huuuge range of 28mm miniatures in plastic that is available nowadays I can't recommend 1/76. The 28mm community by now is probably bigger and most people (I'm not saying ALL but most) who play Bolt Action or Chain of Command play using 28mm.

>>50806585
1/72 are still cheaper though.

>>50806585
>huuuge range of 28mm miniatures in plastic that is available
>one or maybe two plastic boxes for troop type
>only for major nations
>20-30 GBP for 20-30 figures
>1:72 is 5-10GBP for 30-50 dudes
Nah. Plus he wants to try Crossfire.

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>>50806344
What material is the snow made from?

>>50806693
I don't know. It's a bag of Model Train snow. says nothing on it.

>>50806641
>>20-30 GBP for 20-30 figures
>>1:72 is 5-10GBP for 30-50 dudes
meaningless logic.

That's like saying you should do it in 6mm because its like £4 for 100 figures.

>>50806755
>1:72 is cheaper is meaningless logic when you need to choose which scale you want to start

Ok. Also, quickbuild tanks from Armourfast are 8GBP versus 20-25 per vehicle in 28mm.

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>>50805481
>This guy paints 15mm better than I paint 28mm

Well fuck. Why would you go anything not Perry Miniatures when doing Late medieval, they are just too damn good.

>>50806266
If you want to try things out just buy a couple of sets of coloured carbboard and make terrain/squads out of it. If you like that than buy some figures.

>>50805323

It is but honestly I usually end up feeling pretty bummed if I don't break even.

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>>50807400
>Why would you go anything not Perry Miniatures when doing Late medieval

Because I am sick of building armies for and playing 28mm regiment sized games. I hate the hours of painting the dozens and dozens of figures required when I know I could that if I was working in 15mm or smaller I could have half an army done in the time it takes to do a single unit. I hate the hours of cleaning up and assembling models. I hate the amount of space you lose on a standard 6x4 table because the footprint of the units is overly large if you have ones that don't look silly tiny.

Sure they look great when you can put the time in, but I'd still rather actually get an army on the table in a complete state before I/everyone else gets bored and sick of putting together armies, and have the extra space and flexibility in games afforded by using smaller scales.

Redpill me on Kings of War Historical.

>>50808414
It's Kings of War with a historical skin thrown over it. What else is there to cover?

>>50808414
what does redpill even mean in this context. Like usually it means there's loads of missinformation out there on a subject and you want the truth, but I'm pretty sure that isn't the case here.

>>50808439
>What else is there to cover?
How accurately does it portray combat from the periods it covers?
How does it compare to other historical rulesets?
>>50808501
desu I just realized it exists so I would like some opinions

>>50806585
may also depend how vehicle-heavy he hopes to get.
Crossfire uses 3 figs on a base for a squad (of 10 men), so quickly runs to a company on each side, where a few support vehicles would be reasonable (and cheaper in 1:72).
Also a ton of terrain to break up the table. Crossfire needs more terrain than figures, iirc.

>>50808609
Really, it's just KoW with some semi-historical lists. It covers basically everything from Ancients to Renaissance, so not too specific. Rome has two entire pages dedicated to it that apparently is suitable from Republican to Late Imperial Rome.

Get Hail Caesar or something I'd say.

>>50806585
1/72 has a much better range than 28mm. I remember that one anon here searching for a soviet A-19 that was in pretty much every scale except 28mm.

Plus with 1/72 you can mix and match with 1/76 and no one's really going to notice unless you have 2 of the same vehicles right next to each other in different scales.

Plus 28mm are far more expensive than 1/72. You could get an entire army in 1/72 for the price of a single vehicle in 28mm

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>>50808827
speaking of that howitzer.. i actually got it 3d-printed in 1/50.


>Plus 28mm are far more expensive than 1/72.

28mm is far more enjoyable to paint than 1/72 though. In the end it comes down to your personal preference and from what aspect of the hobby you get the most enjoyment.

On a side note: During their Black Friday Sale, Dreamforge sold the Wargames Factory WW2 infantry boxes for less than $10 for 30 28mm minis. And these are pretty good actually.

>>50809000
>Wargames Factory WW2 infantry boxes
Sadly nobody makes support or heavy weapons compatible with them. Every other lines have wildly different styles.

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>>50809069
They mix pretty well with Warlord Plastic parts though, and reposing some minis as crew for a gun like the one i posted isn't that hard. (In fact, my crew is going to be just some plastic minis)

I did this pic some time ago, i think they match pretty good

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The community project is over and done with and I'm not ready, work has taken too much of my time lately. I know it's crap, but it's my crap. My very own first diorama, and I'm happy for it. I also suck at taking pictures, as well as getting ok lightning. I'll try again tomorrow with proper sunlight instead of lightbulbs

>>50806496
>Watch out, don't get caught up in it.
What do you mean?

>>50810136
For the shadows you'll preferably need more lights but not pointed directly at the models, ambient lighting is the key.

>>50810242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50

>>50810393
Kek.

Do we have the new community project voting up yet?

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>>50769679
Hi /hwg/, a friend got me pic related for my birthday. It's got good reviews and despite doing some stuff super wrong trying to figure it out the next morning with another friend it seems a ton of fun.

It's the 1st boxed Hex&Chit I've ever owned and I know you say you like to clip your chits and that make them really nice.

How do you do that? I assume just taking my nail clippers to them would end in tears.

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Finished up a bunch of Chinese infantry for ostfront. The bases really tie them together.

I was going to do cobblestones, but looking at a lot of 30s photos of Shanghai, it seems to be largely flat concrete with the odd tram line recess in it. So I went with that.

I'm going to have a go at printing out some color Chinese building textures onto paper and gluing them to some cardboard boxes to make a shanghai table. Need lots of street banners too, vertical running Chinese characters lining the street edges.

>>50811991
If I were you I'd add some small rocks or chunks of rubble to the bases, they look very flat as is.

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>>50812022
I was thinking about that, and I have a bunch of balsa bits I cut up in nice brick rubble sizes for that purpose.

Took some photos of my WW1 stuff today as well (getting all our shit sorted for a website launch)

Just got my order of WW1 german stuff - 4 7.7cm feldkanone, and a bunch of MG gunners, and then 2 boxes of german infantry in stahlhelms. The Caesar German infantry are gorgeous, quickly becoming my favorite miniature producer - apart from the bendy plastic that seems to never want to straighten out - gotta keep bending and re-bending the guns until they straight.

I was trimming up my WW1 Caesar miniatures and my friend saw the little injection points on the bases (little hollow cylinders) which I was cutting off, and he suggested I use them as spent shell casings for artillery - a genius idea! I've already based up some British 13-pdrs using these "shells". Kinda gutted I threw these trimmings away from my Chinese, as they make perfect spent shells, and spent shells are what you literally see piles of in WW1 photos of artillery pieces.

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>>50812153
Here's the artillery - Felkanone at the back (emhar 1/72), and British 13-pdrs in front (airfix royal artillery)

You can see the "shell casing" trims from the Caesar miniatures on the British bases - not 100% accurate in size, but gives the desired effect.

>>50811938
>I assume just taking my nail clippers to them would end in tears.
Oh god dont use nail clippers unless you are REALLY desperate

what you want is the Oregon Deluxe Laminations Corner Clipper in either 2mm or 2.5 mm sizes.

https://www.amazon.com/Radius-Deluxe-Corner-Rounder-Cutter/dp/B00G08PEXO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482370173&sr=8-1&keywords=oregon+laminations+2.5mm+deluxe+corner+rounder

its what I use and it works like a charm

>>50784504

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>>50813041
a sharp xacto chisel blade works well though you have to manually position each cut. Positives are that it's cheap and locally available at any art or office supply store.

Been playing the hell out of Steel Armor by Graviteam, great Platoon tactics game mixed with a tank sim.

It's got me wondering. What are the best 1:1 tank games out there? Focusing on Armor but with Infantry and other units in support preferably in the WWII to Mid-Cold War range before things got too high tech.

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>>50811628
No, i think the only thing suggested so far was a combat support unit like engineers or similar.

Scratch-build or sculpt something might be an option too

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>>50814458
Maybe Challenger II?
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9391/challenger-ii

>>50807922

You have a 15mm range you prefer for medieval? These look great.

>>50807505
This is literally my entire Wargaming assets collection. I got poorly drawn men and vehicles on Cardstock and Card board. Poor fagging is hard.

>>50814641

>Scratch-build or sculpt something might be an option too

Would terrain count for that, if so I'd be up for it.

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>>50814458
You could try Ostfront, its aimed at 1:1 vehicles with as much (or little) support from infantry, field guns, light vehicles as you like.

>>50815021
I think that pic is from Venexia who have been dead for a few years and I don't know if anyone inherited the moulds.

These days I'd go Mirliton who make >>50805481

If anything recent has popped up that's great I don't know of it. But there's probably something, maybe some central-european based country since the UK industry isn't doing anything that interesting in 15mm. But I don't want to go looking for something my group has expressed no interest it, it'd just lead to disappointment.

>>50806357
Officially 15mm on... 30mm? basing, but it doesn't care too much as long as you're consistent. One base is a squad, IIRC

>>50814458
FFT3 is 1:platoon normally, but works as 1:1 - there's a section in the rulebook on playing it that way.

It's a great game. WW2 through to modern.

>>50812234
that's cool

>>50811991
you should paint the stars on the hats red. gives them some pop.

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>>50819154
dang I hadn't even noticed the stars!
I would, but there's just one tiny problem - They're nationalists so their symbol is the blue sun in a white circle. Red star would be for the communists, who were largely hiding in the rural areas during the fighting in Shanghai in 1937.

>>50819188
how does someone paint 30 figures and not notice the stars on their hats?

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>>50819232
*40
Good question really. I guess I was going as fast as possible and not really paying attention to small details. I blame riveting audiobooks of WW1 veteran memoirs.

What's your opinion on Bolt action? Is it fun? Easy to learn?

>>50820009
Yes and yes.

>>50820054
+1

What is the go to medieval wargame for beginners? Never played or painted before but I figure now is as good a time as any to start.

>>50821517
I dont know if there really is a "go-to" but have a look through our OP folders, under medieval.

Should be some games in there.

Personally I would look at Donald Featherstones books and see what kind of simple-but-effective medieval wargames he has. That's just me though, I like his simple style, but often his rules leave big gaps for you to fill in yourself.

>>50819834
> mouldines

REEEEEEEEE

>>50812234
Those piles of shells look great.

>>50820009
Easy to learn?
Yes
> Is it fun?
Thats not so easy to answer Anon. I like it. Do you like hardcore simulations or do you enjoy having a historical lite game as well?

Bolt Action can be alot of fun but it depends alot on the players.
If you enjoy building/exploiting powerful lists with not much care for historical accuracy you can do that in Bolt Action. If one of your opponents fields his historical accurate 1940 french army against such an optimized tournament list then he won't have fun at all. (and the tournament player won't get a challenging game either).

>>50821517
>for beginners

Kings of War historical.

Its easy to learn and "lite"
Lions Rampart also is not bad.

If you want rather small armies: SAGA (which is set in the dark ages) and SAGA Crescent and Cross (which is set during the Cursades era)

As for minis/painting: Decide what you want to play and we will happily assist you in finding good miniatures and paint for that game/for that army.

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>>50821855
>Lions Rampart

>>50808414
It's a decent game with a historical theme but it in no way simulates how battles actually worked. Army construction rules mean that it's effortless to make wildly inaccurate armies.

+ It's a really elegant system in general
+quick to learn, lots of nuance
+Satisfying game completed far, far quicker than most other rulesets
+Myth units turns the game into Age of Mythology: tabletop battles
-some lists got nowhere near the attention that others got (Japan especially) (fixed by fan edit on mantic forum)
-Skirmish special rule is way too good (again, fixed by a simply fan edit)
- The way individuals work mean that lone standard bearers and musicians can an entire horde for at least a turn

Any experiences with Deus Vult? Managed to get a book that I'll probably receive only in January, but I hope someone might have tried it here.

>>50821818
Is it possible to put together a historical army and play it against another historical army? Given that the point ratio is even?

>>50822177
>Is it possible to put together a historical army and play it against another historical army? Given that the point ratio is even?
sure it is.

>>50822177
Of course.

Thats what i meant with it depends on the player. If you know a couple of likeminded guys who enjoy playing historical lists (a uneven point value can be fun as well btw) you will have alot of fun.

The rulebooks are in the OP if you haven't already downloaded them.
Get a random army book and read through it. You will notice that there are actually altered army lists for certain theaters too. (For example "Stalingrad" or "Italy 1943" (you get the idea) if you and your opponent build your army according to the rules/limitations from the same selector you'll be fine)

>>50767160
How old we talking? Piper at the Gates of Dawn?

>>50821994
what's wrong with lion rampant?

>>50823416
Everything.

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>>50802507
i spend 30 minutes scanning the rule set for TANKS.. then found out the full ruleset can be downloaded FOR FREE:
http://tanks.gf9games.com//Portals/0/all_images/TANKS/TANKS-Rulebook-ForDownload.pdf

please add it to the rules in the OP.

not mad, just meh

>>50823507
lel but thanks for your effort anyway.

The cards and all the tokens etc aren't free though, right?

>>50823416
It's just a fairly mediocre game, nothing special or hugely offensive, seems to have been written in a weekend out of just repositioning the same old mechanics as a hundred other games with no real intent on being anything more than just a toy soldiers game with a vaguely medieval theme.
Loved by some groups, probably because it's inoffensively average and unchallenging.

>>50823538
no, those are not free. Though if you have an idea how i can quickly scan them i am happy to help out. I have a scanner and a good phone if that helps.

>>50823777
You could position as many as possible onto a DinA4 paper and take a foto, then repeat and from these you could create a pdf so people can print them and cut the cards out?

I'm not an expert with these kind of things.

Anyone got the deus vult skirmish rules loot and burn?
or are they not out yet?

>>50823853
I have the book. What do you want to know?

>>50823885
Is it good and does it have more depth and the paddling pool that saga is?

>>50823917
I haven't played SAGA so i can't comment on that.

Its a decent game though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRlqWOGNlVc

Here is a review of the core game, Burn&Loot is just scaled down in army size compared to it.

>>50823961
Isn't B&L basically pretty similar in figure-count terms? I'm sure I heard that somewhere, from someone complaining about it. It's not scaled down nearly as much as you'd expect from a "skirmish" version of a "battle" game.

>>50824141
https://tewblogger.blogspot.co.nz/2016/09/burn-and-loot.html was the thing I was thinking of. I obviously can't really discuss its accuracy.

To The Strongest! is my current absolute favourite ancients/medieval game, anyway.

>>50824141
>It's not scaled down nearly as much as you'd expect from a "skirmish" version of a "battle" game.

True. Its not a "15-guy warband"-skirmish game. But its still smaller than the original Deus Vult.

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What do you mideval players think of lords & servants? I don't play the period but I thought it looked decent browsing through the rule book

>>50824538
I'd love to give it a go, I've liked both Baroque and Impetus by the same people. Just on read it's got a lot of features I like, like weapon-based initiative with two-handed weapons not being unrealistically slow and stuff. That and it's compact despite having a decent amount of detail in it.

>drop model
>barrel breaks off
well that's gone forever

>>50786425
tfw no cute brunswicker gf

Hey /hwg/, I'm ordering a Bolt Action set for christmas. Is the Finn build-an-army a good idea to start with? Also, should I get one or two ski infantry with it (I'm getting one no matter what because I just think they're cool honestly).

Thanks!

>>50827204
I dropped a jadgpather and the barrel snapped off and is somewhere under my workbench. Can't find it despite looking multiple times. I'm leaning towards just making it a wreck and getting the S-Model kit; it's the old Esci kit and has terrible tracks and now no gun.

>>50830012
>Is the Finn build-an-army a good idea to start with?

If you want to play Finns.. yes.
The build-an-army bundles are very good deals compared with single purchases. (you can do the math yourself)

Ski troops are only 5 guys compared to 9 in the rifle squad. So i'd only pick one of them if you really want to have them because in the beginning you might want to get a few regular squads of soldiers on the field to experiement around with different lists etc.
If you have to many ski troops your list is kinda pre-written for you which might be frustrating if you don't like how it plays.

>>50830311
Thanks for the advice, I think I'll just go for the one then.

What's the best bang for my buck paint set I should get for modern day 15mm Western militaries?

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>>50833423
That's an impossibly open-ended question. What are you trying to paint Candians? Dutch? USA? Desert camo? Forest? Winter? Something else?

Color will depend on the specific military and theater.

>>50833735
I'd say War on Terror context, desert patterns, US/French/British/German, the whole coalition clusterfuck. I guess there should be some common color dominants? I'd rather not buy the exact camo color for each nation, and go the lazy route at first with a starter paint set that'd get me in the ballpark.

>>50833423
I'd like to expand on this question and ask where you guys all get your paints and brushes?

I'm curious what the consensus is on different sources.

>>50833857
I get cheaper kolinsky sable hair brushes from brands like Zem. I am a fan of Vallejo paints myself, though I will say that Minitare paints are notoriously underrated.

>>50809000
Hey...hey guy..

..where do I get that A-19 bro?

I'm actually the anon that >>50808827 is talking about. I still haven't found the A-19, but I found a M1909/30 and an M1938 122mm.

Hook a fellow artillery junkie up mang.

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Merry Christmas from Ostfront Publishing!
We come early as I'm sure everyone will be busy on the actual day.

Thanks for all the support and interest over the years, always interesting to see what you guys think of systems and settings.

Down to the presents - Ostfront main rules, US, Soviet and Wehrmacht lists, and Westfront:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2uw1sqnbj4j9u/TG_FILES

Feel free to add these to the OP mediafires.

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>>50834085
You the real mvp Ostfront anon

I'll check out westfront, as I already have ostfront

>>50834232
>mvp
heh its funny becuase this works both ways - either most valuable player, or minimum viable product. We do love constant updating - I'm considering re-typing the entire main rules in a nicer font, with more clarity, and making some better example images. Things can always be better! Its been a good 6 months since we launched and just about to get our website online - ostfrontpublishing.com

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>>50834085

Merry Christmas and bless your generous, file-sharing hearts.

>>50833857
i usually order from fantasywelt.de (being german, any order above 49€ ships for free for me).
They ask for 2,34€ for a bottle of vallejo which is hard to beat in Germany and also stock a large number of other paint brands such as AK, P3 and Army Painter.

I mainly use brushes in the price range between 3-5€.. mostly because i'm overly careful and don't want to spend to much money on a brush i might damage because lack of care
Like this one for example:
https://www.fantasywelt.de/Rotmarder-Aquarellpinsel-Harbin-Kolinskyhaare-Groesse-0

>>50834083
http://www.kingshobbiesandgames.com/28mm-A-19-122mm-Howitzer-p/28mma-19122mmhowitzer.htm

I got it from this store. The owner is really nice and if you ask him for a different scale he will do that for you too. (He also has a 152mm M1943 which isn't listed in the store yet, but you can ask for it).
My A-19 is 1:50 btw.

>>50834085
Thanks OstfrontAnon!

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>>50834085
Added to our OP. Thanks anon.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pa329uh4m1os7/Ostfront
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2dxbc1890amp7di/Westfront.pdf

I had a look on aliexpress and found some brushes there. Also 6 pots with different flock. Would it be worth it?

>>50836357
depends on the price i guess. Keep in mind that with ali expess takes some time until you get your stuff.

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Picked up a WW2 naval hex&counter game called Salvo, from 1992, for those anons who like that sort of thing.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/smw0tumb8hk8ld7/Salvo%21.pdf
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5669/salvo

>>50802553
Is that a fucking trench spear?

>>50833857
Paints are Vallejo, mostly ordered from Scale Hobbyist. Brushes are mostly from local craft store or university book store.

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>>50838096
It's actually a special kind of rifle developed for wirecutting; the wire would be seized in the clamp then a bullet would fire and split it. The bayonet was slung underneath in case some Austrian chap stuck his head over the parapet.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kw1sfaiyi21qp6a/Osprey+-+WAR+087+-+Italian+Arditi+1917-20.pdf

>>50838218
That sounds like it would attract a lot of attention for every single wire you cut.

>>50835436
Hot damn dude!!

Thank you very much for sharing this, I've been looking for quite some time. I appreciate it.

I'll make sure to post pictures of mine once its done, again, thanks!!

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>>50838273
This would be taking place during an artillery barrage or general assault, so stealth wasn't a big priority.

On closer inspection the specific weapon being wielded by that model is a "Malfatti" wire cutter (not the rifle extension as I first assumed); you'd lay this over the wire and pull back to cut it.

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For the WW2 China anons among us

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When I got home from the FLGS last night, I found this nice little package waiting for me...

Should be an interesting little project, especially the Panzers; they seem to have pretty nice detail for something that fits on a single sprue like that.

>>50769679
>Decima MAS edition

those guys had huge guts, same as other elite units
Shame that they got overlooked because of the stereotypes

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>>50838218
Why wouldn't you use wire cutters?
Lighter, cheaper to produce, fewer moving parts

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>>50838582
Nice to see you got the package anon, that panzer kit is an odd kit, but I have to admit that it looks really good when put together carefully.

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>>50835457
I've been to Tankfest and that little wargames show at Bovington more than a few times, and it's still tempting to just say sod it, were going to Monkeyworld despite the love of tanks.

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>>50834085
Best Christmas

>>50838992
i imagine part of the reason that it's basically spear length is so that you can do it from whatever cover you might have, then try to rush through your little opening into other cover. also a weapon, probably valued by soldiers to not have to let go of their rifle.

could also just be the italians making poor equipment decisions, not a very far fetched assumption.

>>50834085
Thanks anon. Merry Christmas.

Merry ones indeed to you all.

>>50834085
I wasn't going to buy it anyway, a look through the previews and other comments told me that it wasn't really for me, but dude, thanks, you didn't have to do that.

Guess I'll take a good look at the campaign rules!

>>50838003
not a bad find. World Wide Wargames were never known for their graphic art...so graphics are a bit sub par for its time.

So-so naval game from what Ive heard. But its only 12 pages of rules. so not much to digest or deal with.

>>50838582
Nice, you'll need to do some Fall Blau games. 24Th PzD's advance southwest of Stalingrad in summer 1942 springs to mind

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Some things just look dorky.

http://lonewarriorswa.com/the-allan-williams-turret

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>>50841490
I mean... at least it's not a big target...?

I would not want to have to use one of those.

Is SAGA anygood?

I keep seeing it at my lgs and there are a few players.
I do have some money to burn and was thinking of getting into it. Thinking about Jomsvikings but dont know much about the game.

>>50842575
yes, it's pretty good. I don't play it, but the people I know who do are pretty happy with it.

Is there a scan on Crossfire rulebook? It seems almost impossible to find a store that sells it.

Hey Westfront Anon, I've noticed there are no special rules for machine gun teams. Are they just considered standard shooting attacks or can they shoot more than once per turn?

>>50843524
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
It's in the OP - WW2 / Games

>but I've not seen the supplement scanned

I just ordered three boxes of Victrix Successor Macedonians, I guess it's time for Seleucids. Should I go with Antiochus III or Antiochus IV?

>>50844537
IV, of course.

Who doesn't want to roleplay getting "cucked" by the Romans

>>50844726
Don't forget being deamonized by the jews.

>>50844754
To be fair he deserved it on both counts.

>>50844779
I wouldn't say he deserved the jew stuff. Circumcision was abhorent among the Greeks and later Romans and wishing to hurry up the cultural conversion was natural. Many peoples were embracing Greek culture and Antiochus IV wasn't an antisemite but rather a ruler needing to crush a rebellion. Rather the conflict was a civil war between Jews who embraced Greek culture and conservative Jews that carried out brutal forced conversions and genocide of minorities in their reach. The conversative Jews won and thus wrote history.

>>50844195
Didn't notice that one. Thanks!

Ded thread red genre

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>>50843721
The machine gun teams just do a regular shooting attack once per turn. Considering a shooting attack is the equivalent of 25 guys firing rifles, its still pretty ruthless. A standard damage roll is capable of suppressing 25 men, or killing/wounding 10 - 15 men in a few seconds.
MG teams are pretty cheap too so I foresee people spamming them and setting up interlocking lines of fire, at least thats what we do when we play.

>>50845625
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

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thread needs a serious pike injection.

>>50833735
>Candians
Probably bright pastel colours, or striped like candy canes.

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>>50840041
Dang it. I read it and I kinda want to get some Italians and send them to slaughter throwing Cardona (terrible italian commander from webems that float there, Uomini Contro is a good movie) quotes.

Any thoughts on The Perfect Capitan's War of the Roses rules?

>>50850398

Although The Perfect Captain has several of my favourite rules, A Crown of Paper not one of them.

Sure, the idea behind the mechanics is right up my alley - but the amount of cardgames and counters is not.

Then again, I'm a picky guy: I don't like Hoplomachia just because the whole 'how deep will the spear punch through armor' calculation has to done for each and every base - just like in DBA/DBM/DBR rulesets.

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>>50850387
Pretty much everything you need to run Italians is there, except perhaps body armor....
The "mountainous terrain" theater is made with Isonzo river battles in mind.

There aren't really any special rules for body armor, even though the germans had their lobster armor (I have a few Caesar minis equipped with this).
Alpini would definitely be Assault infantry though

>>50850858
>No additional protection from armour

Well, it's just like in the movie again! I can't wait to push them under machine gunfire while bragging about superiority of their equipment!

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>>50851126
haha, well best of luck. Hopefully you can find miniatures easy enough.

iirc the German lobster armor was only issued to machine gunners and other gunners who were likely to draw fire and not have to walk around too much.
There's a forgotten weapons episode where they test out some reproduction German armor - it protects from a handgun at ~50m, but with a standard rifle shot, it wouldn't do shit. I think a .303 penetrated cleanly at like 200m

>>50820009
Love it, turn mechanism is exquisite

Hey guys, Happy Holidays!

Do any of you have any source materials for NKVD uniforms? I've read through most of the shit I've found off google, but i'm still not quite sure what colours the Border Regiments were; some reproductions has it as khaki tunic, black pants, and forest green cap, while others have green tunic, green cap, and blue pants.

Any suggestions?

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>>50853085
Have you checked out the Ospreys? The MAAs on the Soviet Army each have an entry on the NKVD.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jnygzbbdt6gty3u/Osprey+-+MAA+464+-+World+War+II+Soviet+Armed+Forces+%281%29+1939-41.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c7nlbrmra07rj6e/Osprey+-+MAA+468+-+World+War+II+Soviet+Armed+Forces+%282%29+1942-43.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/eny8ol73h9pflk6/Osprey+-+MAA+469+-+World+War+II+Soviet+Armed+Forces+%283%29+1944-45.pdf

LAV-75

Here are pics from my Secret Santa delivery from German Anon.

http://potanswar.blogspot.cz/2016/12/4chan-hwg-secret-santa-2016.html

Thanks man.

>tfw listening bbc's the great war documentary from 60s and snipping mulled wine

The comfiest xmas in a long time.

>>50850387
I saw a book this summer that was a series of scenarios or a campaign set in the Italian theater of WW1. I thought it was the Skirmish Campaigns series but it looks like their ww1 books don't include italy.

>>50855740
You might want to censor his and your address on the first pic Anon.

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>>50851250
>machine gunners and other gunners who were likely to draw fire

I read somewhere years ago the life expectancy of a machine gunner in combat in the western front was about 30 minutes

>>50856915
yeah but their K/D ratio was insane to balance it

For anyone that backed the Blood and Plunder kickstarter, rewards are shipping now. For those interested in it you can preorder things now.

>>50835457
>>50839426
>Not going to the Armoured Trials and Development Unit next door
>Not going down the road to the Gunnery School at Lulworth Cove to watch the tanks go bang
It feels good to be a gangsta

>>50857076
still campers tho

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As it is officially christmas, and I'm gonna be busy tomorrow, I just want to say thanks to the guy who sent me my secret santa.

Did you know these were going to fit in with my Indian FIW collection or was it luck? Thanks a lot either way! I really needed a 3rd Sachem especially!

Have a great Christmas!

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>>50859658
Merry Christmas to you too!

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Merry Christmas from greatest timezone, /hwg/-fags.

Yrs.
Another Hampshire Anon.

>>50859658
>>50855740

Nice to see some more gifts arrived. Hopefully you guys get to paint some of the minis.

Merry Christmas to all of you in /hwg/.

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Time to climb out of the trenches and have a kickabout with the opposition.

Merry christmas, chaps.

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>>50860231
The only thing having a kickabout around these parts is my feelings.

>>50835457
>tank museum 1 1/2
>monkey world 1
But why are they storing the russian tanks at a separate location?

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>>50859346

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>>50860793
Balls are touching.

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>>50861379
>numbers aren't in the right order

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Merry Christmas, /HWG/! Hope your families see fit to observe the truce.

>>50860535
First Christmas when I don't feel anything like Christmas at all.

I'm not even angry, I'm just disappointed.

Sad anons, I hope you get better. Call someone and tell something nice.

>>50864914
Chin up lad, you'll get used to it. Just use the time to indulge in what you enjoy doing and be nice to people if you get the chance.

Otherwise there's always whiskey and Fairytale of New York :)

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Where's a good place to buy naval wargaming mats like pic related?

>>50865372
I'm in Hungary, so we have Home Alone on endless loops.

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Frohe Weihnacht!

finished my German Winter infantry.

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>>50866236

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Merry Christmas to all.

Just opened my secret santa and I have to say I'm pretty chuffed about having my own little band of mercenaries, I'll probably have to get some peasant levies to oppose them in future.

I also have to say that I really appreciated the little saga included with them, the effort put into it was actually quite touching, not to get all mushy you understand.

Hope everyone else got good secret santa hauls this year.

>>50855740
I'm glad you like the things i sent you. Have you tried the Gingerbread yet? Its my favorite Christmas food.

The small tanks are actually from the World of Tanks Gamescom booth from a couple of years ago. They look close to 15mm, but i don't play in that scale so i couldn't compare them.

>>50866368
Little saga? I'm curious.

>>50866236
>>50866252
Looks great. Be proud

>>50866252
>>50866236
Very nice.

How did you do the snow? Is it a ready-made product or did you use natron or baking powder?

At the risk of being "that guy": You should paint the edges of the bases.

>>50866780
>You should paint the edges of the bases.
yes, I will do that to get them in line with my other Summer Germans.

The snow is a modelling train ready-made-product mixed with PVA.

>>50866656
>>50866368

seconding this

>>50866656
>>50866866
Its a poem chronicling the journey of this little band , as they travel on their way to Edinburgh, resorting to banditry to survive as they look for a better life.

Its a few paragraphs long and looks like it took quite some work to write, particularly when you consider the dedication to the rhyming scheme.

I'm not usually the sentimental type, but I actually really appreciate this and will definitely be hanging onto this.

If the original anons fine with it I'll post the whole thing.

>>50866902
Now that sounds really interesting. I'd love to read that.

>>50866902
Damn son that's really cool.

>>50866902
Dutchanon here who sent it, you have my blessing. I could upload it aswell, I have it in digital here.

>>50867002
It would probably be better to upload a digital copy rather than my blurry photos

>>50867304
Dear anon from Edinburgh I bring you a tale, of some soldiers worn out and pale.
They come to you in search of a home, take them in and bring an end to their roam
What follows is their story of hardship and misery, so read well these fightan men´s history

A mercenary fair walked Scotland’s glens, he travelled through bush, marsh and fens.
In the company of 6 companions he was, his friends and compatriots considered outlaws.
One a-horse, the rest a-foot, covered in dust and sweat and soot.
They travelled far they travelled wide. They had fought and fled and died.
Started as soldiers in the service of their lord, they left for another after getting little reward.
A deadly ambush was suffered while serving this second noble, many died but the group survived while staying mobile.
A third officer they found, but after an argument they left eastbound.
With no income and no food, and many an enemy to elude
Banditry was the only way, robbing innocents nearly every day.
Some gave willingly some were hurt, violence was a thing they could not avert.
An end to this torment had almost been found, a place or house to live around.
In a village they heard by the mouth of the priest, he promised a way this banditry could be ceased
A lord sought guards for his homestead, in return they would be clothed and fed
In the town of Edinburgh far, so they followed a distant star
The preacher had said; this star will lead you to a clean house and bed
No more robbing, no more bleeding, just walking watch and feeding
In the company of this great Scottish lord, who according to tales rarely used his sword
Again they travelled all through the land, always staying together this merry band .
Until finally reaching your door, these seven poor veterans of a great war.
Will you hire these poor souls? They will serve nobly, not act like trolls.
Paint them your livery so everyone will know, these soldiers serve you from Galway to Cairo.
Have fun doing fights with them
Hot diggety, Anon

>>50867535
>that ending
This is legendary.

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>>50867535
/hwg/ is comfiest board

>>50841511
>>50841490

I saw this weird little turret at the airport in Narsarsuaq Greenland a few years ago.

The US had a hospital/airstrip there so it was probably installed to defend against Germans/Soviets sailing up the fjord and seizing the airstrip.