Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>50732315
Dragonfire Inspiration

>>50732274
No, both Oracle and Scaled Fist Monk are untyped CHA to AC, and untyped bonuses from the same source don't stack.

>>50732375
Scaled Fist is untyped, but I'm pretty sure the Oracle revelations that add Cha to AC just have it replace Dexterity and be treated as such--would they then stack, with that explanation?

So I'm thinking about running my first game (Probably just a one shot, specifically the "Hollow's Last Hope" Module), but I have some questions first. Like, well, is it any good? And if things go well, should I consider going down that recommended chain with the Kobold King books as well? Idk, general "First time DM wat do" tips?

What would be some good sphere abilities for a Kitsune Shrine Maiden? I've got Divination for free, and was planning on taking Fate+bless. Would Mind be a good sphere to invest in, as kitsune have some enchantment stuff, or does that get to "unethical"? Would Illusion be good? I'm not sure how well it would work on a mid-caster.

Also, what are some good alternate divinations? I know fate and time are, though I wonder about others.

>>50732425
Replace and In addition do not stack.

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Thanks for the Game Informer post! I actually learned a lot.

I do like a lot of the stuff they are doing with it, such as settings and some classes. What I'm on the fence about is the Wookie/ Rocket Raccoon/ Rodent people. I understand it, but it just seems fetish-y to me. However, it might make for a decent Pokémon race if you have players inclined to it.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/12/09/top-of-the-table-the-starfinder-interview.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

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Which collection of Evolutions would make the best baby-kraken Eidolon?

>>50732479
Bullshit they do. Did you miss the NTR Dwarf? If your "ruling" was right then the build wouldn't have been possible.
So stop spreading missinformation you cunt.

>when your DM is being a passive aggressive bitch that doesn't directly name anyone when posting messages that are clearly aimed at a specific person

>>50732511
Do you want Squid Kraken or General-Sea-Life-Amalgam Kraken?

>>50732517
why he do dis doe

who had sex with his sister?

>>50732531
Well, I think it has to look like something that could function on land. So full-squid might not be an option.

>>50732560
Alright! So, Snakeform, or crabipede quadrupedal form?

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>>50732315
Get your DM to run an all-monster campaign and be a Fire Elemental with levels in Fire Bloodline Sorcerer and grab Searing Spell and-

Look, I dunno. I just wanted an excuse to post Ragnaros.

>>50732549
Well, I mean...

I did, but that's not what he's bitching about.

>>50732513
The argument ended in "it probably doesn't stack?"

>>50732601
pls stop making me ask for the story and delivar

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So, does Dragonheir Scion even lose much of anything, considering it replaces bonus feats that don't exist?

>>50732450
Modules can be good to learn by; you pick up some lessons you might not ever realize without doing a module first. Most easy to miss thing is to make every type of specialization have some use, really. Make sure you aren't testing only AC or only one type of save, make sure there are enemies with varied types of defenses, make sure you aren't testing only certain skills or neglecting the Knowledges (and you should generally allow semi-related knowledges to work at some penalty, make those skills worthwhile to them), and occasionally just put some shit out of simple reach to test generic problem-solving and utility magic usage. Deep underwater, across a big ol' pit, through a prison cell's bars, etc.

Modules are good at those already, but those are the hidden boxes to check off when shit goes off the rails.

>>50732574
Aquatic with pincers and a few tentacles perhaps?

>>50732614
By RAW it does because one is a replacement not a bonus.

>>50732616
Okay.

>Know DM since I was about 6, he was my neighbor
>Been friends with him and his sister since I moved in
>His sister was my first and only girlfriend in high school
>Fucked like rabbits
>Still together in college
>Thinking about asking her to marry me

But what he's bitching about is a player that keeps complaining every time the DM has to cancel to look after his cancer-addled dad.

Would it be better to try out a Warpriest/Sacred Fist or a Sohei?

for chainsaw mcflurries?

I want to ERP with Colette

>>50732646
Not sure I buy it. If a pair of magic gloves just says "you can add your Strength bonus to melee attacks" I wouldn't say you get it twice in places you already would have that bonus. What's the wording?

>>50732683
> You may use your Charisma modifier (instead of your Dexterity modifier) as part of your Armor Class and all Reflex saving throws. Your armor's maximum Dexterity bonus applies to your Charisma, instead.

From the Lunar Mystery

>>50732678

I want to ERP with SwimmingEagle!

>>50732683
>Sidestep Secret (Su): Your innate understanding of the universe has granted you preternatural reflexes and the uncanny ability to step out of danger at the very last second. Add your Charisma modifier instead of your Dexterity modifier to your Armor Class and all Reflex saving throws. Your armor’s maximum Dexterity bonus applies to your Charisma instead of your Dexterity
Note: It is a replacement not a bonus


>AC Bonus (Ex)(modified by Scaled Fist): When unarmored and unencumbered, the Scaled Fist adds his Charisma bonus (if any) to his AC and his CMD. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC and CMD at 4th level. This bonus increases by 1 for every four monk levels thereafter, up to a maximum of +5 at 20th level.

These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. He loses these bonuses when he is immobilized or helpless, when he wears any armor, when he carries a shield, or when he carries a medium or heavy load.
Note: This is a bonus.

>>50732591
And you did. We appreciate you.

>>50732683
I recall coming across a 1pp magic item that let you add your strength modifier to breaking things or sunder or something.

By that ruling, this item is literally worthless.

>>50732591
Is that a fucking leg?

>>50732767
It's legal to use both then

>>50732781
That's because the ruling of Captain Illiterate here is bullshit.

>>50732591
You could permanently turn yourself into a fire elemental with Spheres.

Or use that one fire elemental race that one guy made.

>>50732796
New rag had legs instead of a tornado foot.

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My party's greatsword using fighter is feeling pretty outclassed by the party slayer, who regularly deals twice as much damage as he can dish out with a large-sized bastard sword. Me and the GM are trying to come up with ways to make him feel more relevant in combat without taking away his big sword away, bc as of now the slayer does the same thing much better.

I guess we could consider PoW but its definitely not our first choice.

>>50732813
He also still has tornadofoot in HotS. Rag does what Rag wants.

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>game yesterday
>playing Plunder and Peril. level 5
>Party is me (BFC/utility wizard), an Esoteric Magus, a spear-dancing style U.Rogue, a Startoss-style Swashbuckler, and a Intimidate build Vigilante.
>Levitate Vigilante 150 ft. up an arch to take mcguffin
>Encounter Crab-man and swarm of small snib-snabs as soon as he grabs the item
>We're in a small dinghy
>We have to make Prof. (sailor) checks to not invoke vigorous motion, which gives Spell Failure chance
>None of us have anything to deal with the swarm
>I have a few torches in my bag, and the means to light them
>But I have to spend my move actions to pull vigilante with mcguffin
>Swarm enters boat, dealing damage to us all and distracting us, making us nauseated
>Later it entangles
>Rest of party starts getting upset at me for not dealing with the swarm through burning hands
>A spell I have never cast in the campaign, since I tend to not prep blast spells
>I get increasingly salty that the blame is put on me for not casting a spell that I didn't have prepared, with a standard action I didn't have, by people who ALSO didn't have any method of dealing with a swarm let alone most things because they can't optimize for shit.
>want to die
>later hear swarm had like 40 hp, so burning hands likely wouldn't have done shit.

So how do you deal with swarms, /pfg/?

>>50732850
In my current game, my fighter carries a blunderbus for the express purpose of killing swarms.

>>50732828
Are you using WMH options?
What are their Archetypes?
What level are you all?
Also, welcome to Pathfinder, enjoy your stay.

>>50732850
You fucking don't because swarms are fucking bullshit. "lol immune to everything except fireball" is a stupid encounter design.

Swarmbane clasp at later levels.

>>50732828
Really? What does a Slayer even have besides +1 every 5 levels? Which Weapon Training also gives?

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>>50732895
Then how the hell are people supposed to deal with swarms in APs/Modules?

>>50732678
Who?

Quick question on backstory length for an app: is four paragraphs good or do I need to cut it down, lengthen it out or what?

>>50732988
MIKE JONES!

>>50732828
Post your character sheet. I'll tell you what you're doing wrong.

>>50732989
>four pages
bruh
>>50733001
this

>>50733019
It wasn't four pages, it's about four /paragraphs/

>>50733019
four paragraphs, not pages.

>>50732989
What I say is a Backstory is like a resume. It should be exactly 1 page, no more, no less.

>>50733047
>>50733050
my bad fellas

>>50733050
Would you include personality, flaws, and physical description in that one page limit?

>>50733064
Yes, generally.

>>50732989
Honestly just make sure it's organized. Give them a quick idea of what the concept is all about at the start, use headings or bold significant character-defining details, and tell their story in 2-4 paragraphs, yeah.

>>50732878
We just hit level 9, and i believe he took a Weapon Mastery thing that gives him divine bond. I'm unsure about the specifics.
Archetypes are Vanguard (Slayer) and Two-handed Fighter.

>>50732920
Something I probably should have mentioned, we have one Mythic tier. Slayer took Mythic Vital Strike. Thus the damage gap.

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>>50733076
>Already a page in the default Word settings
>Still haven't gotten to last paragraph
Welp, time to sudoku.

>>50733098
Wait so he only took generic stuff a Fighter can get even more easily than him? Why didn't you?

>>50733098
Post character sheet

Hey guys, I need some help with me being dumb.

I went to see how Disguise works, and the way I'm reading it, the penatly to the check to make yourself look like a being of any other size category than yours is -10, regardless of original and target sizes.

This can't be right, right ? There's something I'm misunderstanding here, right ? The penalty to make a thrush look like a motherfucking dragon CAN'T be -12 (taking into account the "different race" bit), right ?!

>>50733217
I always read it as a mistake and that it should be cumulative

>>50733228
Cumulative sounds a little harsh though. I mean I get that explosively stupid actions need explosively stupid DCs, but -10 for going from medium to small ? That's the same difference as getting help from someone in the street or an outright opponent (check Diplomacy).

I agree that it should be cumulative, but maybe something like -5 by size category ?

>>50733001
>>50733019
>>50733141
The fighter is the only player at the table that uses a physical sheet, so I really don't have access to it right now. From what I remember, her feats consist of PA, Iron Will, Lighting Reflexes, Cleave, WF and WS. Pretty generic stuff.

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>>50732989

Here's the outline you should try to aim for, each arrow is a paragraph.

>Establish the character, where they're from and what they are
>Rise to Power, they're good at what they do and you're exemplifying that
>Zenith followed by the Fall from Grace
>Character deals with the Fall, hint at campaign-relevant hooks
>Finish with the character making their way to the campaign location

>>50732850

Swallow whole

>>50732989
>>50733050
Look at some of the other apps to get an idea, the work with that.>>50733321
Also this>>50733321

>>50733321
>>50733397
Fuck it, I'll just post it here.
http://pastebin.com/zPkmACLT

It's probably super shitty, but I'm really at a loss on what to do with this. I'm trying to revise it to be less "muh family hates me, abloobloo", but it ended up being MORE of that. Also I still haven't explained where she gets any of her abilities/skills.

I'm really tempted to just scrap the whole damn thing and start with a different character. This is really frustrating.

>>50733397
>Look at some of the other apps to get an idea

And on that note, I'd like to suggest Nefertari as someone to be inspired by - she doesn't have blocks of text like I suggested, but she follows the basic outline to the letter.

>Who is this character
>Where are they good
>When did they reach the height of their ability
>What caused them to fall
>How do they deal with that fall
>Why do they end up in the campaign area

You might be asking me, "but anon! My character did not have a fall!" And my answer is why? You are the star of this backstory, this means you are not the Han Solo but the Luke Skywalker. Did Luke ever have stumbles on his way to becoming a Jedi Master? Of course he did! But he picked himself back up and went on his way to fight Lord Vader on the Death Star while Monster Mash watches.

But that is not where you should end up in your writing, the campaign is your Return of the Jedi and Monster Mash is the BBEG, with Lord Vader your personal foe (whether figurative or literal) the DM should be expected to put in there!

>>50733217
I get the impression they're just assuming it's not possible to convince anyone of a disguise where the size difference is 2 stages, and didn't figure you'd try. Even commoners can see with their own eyes. A halfling just cannot be passed as an adult hill giant for any amount of effort, but even if you rule that way, the loophole you can still get into is that you could count young versions of the larger creature as being one or more size categories down - you COULD pass an adult halfling as a child giant with a ton of extra costuming.

Currently fiddling with a dwarf for ROTJR, /pfg/. What I currently have is the daughter of a rich, old dwarven line that lives in Kalsgard, in the Undercroft; money made through mercantile works and mercenary works, very close ties to the Ulfen in the LotLK. She's the oldest daughter, expected to inherit the company when she comes of age in a century or three, but that's not what she wants out of life; what's just one company when they could have the world? She dreams of not just reclamation or survival, oh no, that's too simple.

She dreams of taking the Path of Agenhai, going to long-distant lands; and founding a new Skyhold there, a fortress-city tapping into the local Darklands, making wealth and trade and expanding her people's wealth and glory both above and below ground. She doesn't want a company; she wants a KINGDOM. Her parents tell her it's just a phase, she'll grow out of it; they told her why doesn't she go down to Varisia for a bit, explore some, work out her youthful energy for a few decades?

She's been there for a bit now, but her burning desire has not faded; currently in Sandpoint for a few reasons (not the least of rich is a desire to show off at the festival), perhaps fortune will go her way soon enough?

This all seem to flow well, seems to make sense? I was considering making her from Janderhoff instead of Kalsgard, but I felt like Kalsgard would be more suitable for the campaign; I'm also still trying to find character art, so if anyone has any punchy, cocky-looking blood female dwarves in light or minimal armor, that would be appreciated.

>>50733535

Dude, I seriously love her goal and concept, it all fits in-setting and the dream of building a new Skyhold is very doable in Tian Xia or even Minkai.

Did you have any preferred hair colors head shapes? Full body shots are kind of right out considering dwarf, but I've got heads.

>>50733590

Yeah, I have to admit I Like how it all fits together; this is my first time actually bothering to read into Golarion dwarves and they're honestly different enough from the standard Scots Fantasy Dwarf to interest me.

Blonde hair if you please, and something a little youthful? She's basically going to be still a teenager-equivalent, so that should show; still, someone capable of maturing into a true beauty instead of just someone cute.

>>50733535
I tie to one of the four story npcs for one, which could be as easy as "Family works with Sandrus Caravan often"
But aside from that, Looks good to me.

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>>50733627

>Blonde hair if you please, and something a little youthful? She's basically going to be still a teenager-equivalent, so that should show; still, someone capable of maturing into a true beauty instead of just someone cute.

I gotchu, senpai!

>>50733590
>>50733627
Here's the most important question though, braited, pleated, or other for the beard?

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So! Weekend's almost here, /pfg/. Any fun or exciting plans, game-related or otherwise?

>>50733473
How much of a Fall does it have to be? Can it still be appropriate and satisfying if it's as humble as a death in the family, the abrupt disappearance of your mentor, or something similar that forces you to give up a quest you'd been on?

>>50733762

The Fall is a disruption in your Rise, the thing that makes you stumble. All those things you listed count as a Fall.

The campaign should be the start of you picking yourself back up and Rising once again.

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>>50733752
Nope, none at all.

Just more useless flailing at this damn backstory. I'll probably try and just come up with a different character. It feels like I've written myself into a corner. God, I'm a shit writer.

Reposting since it's no longer an ungodly hour. This is ROTJR character but I'm busy the next couple days and can't work on the sheet. Rather than post the draft I'm just showing off the bullet points and seeing what people think.

>character is a female tiefling in a family of humans in Rozenport
>treated like dirt for it, particularly by bitchy sister
>only her father, an occult investigator/alchemist/Sincomakti prof. treats her nice
>serious daddy issues result, thinks he is the greatest thing ever
>wants to be just like daddy, grows up to be a researcher/alchemist and even manages to become a junior prof. at Sincomakti
>meanwhile, sister becomes a housewife, pops out some kids
>one of these kids, a daughter, grows up to also think that being an occult investigator/alchemist/Sincomakti prof. is the greatest thing ever
>thinks her aunt is awesome as a result and doesn't care about the whole tiefling thing
>serious niece issues result
>meanwhile, dad has gone missing investigating rumors of cult activity
>character wants to go look for him, niece wants to go on awesome adventure
>lets the niece come, though she knows it's the worst idea ever
>they set out, but are predictably apprehended by cultists, who do Very Bad Things to both of them
>character and niece are discovered dumped on the road weeks later, both are unconscious, character wakes up a few days later, niece never wakes up and is still comatose
>character is now wracked with guilt, has frightening visions and nightmares, and is plagued by bad memories of what happened
>family naturally hates her guts now
>resigns from Sincomakti to devote herself to full-time looking for a cure for the niece
>nothing in Ustalav works
>decides to venture beyond Ustalav to continue searching
>is starting to think she needs to look beyond Avistan entirely

Character itself is an Investigator|Occultist, though I don't have too much experience with gestalts or third party.

>>50733785

Which one is yours?

>>50733752
Gonna see if I can kill my entire party in the next session. For their benefit, of course.

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>>50733796
This one: >>50733464

All the advice before has made me just feel utterly defeated. Backstories gotta fall in line with theses rules but at the same time, can't be formulaic, and you should just do what feels right. It's all really conflicting and I'm totally lost. Not to mention that I'm also shit at roleplay in-game too. So I question the idea of even putting forth effort for a great backstory if I'm just going to completely flub it in game. It'd be awful if I get in, that happens, and someone else could have gotten in and not ruined everything with shitty roleplay.

sage for blogshit

>>50733857

I will give you a more detailed response in a half hour, but I honestly quite like Silvia and think she is excellent potential. Are you on the IRC? I could talk with you about this there.

>>50733722

Very cute, thank you anoN!

>>50733726

She doesn't have a beard on her face, anon.But the other one's braided with gold beads for luster.

>>50733857

Well, the stuff you have down doesn't seem so bad. Introduces her circumstances, gives her a reason to become an PC, and then follows it through. The rest can probably be summed up under flaws or personality.

>>50733961
I can be in a bit, but I've got some things to deal with first.

roll20 using DMs

what do you use for making your dungeon maps

>>50733995
I still feel like I need to explain where she learned all of the things she knows. I don't know how to put that in without making everything take forever.

>>50734020

She was lonely and left forgotten in the manor, she read books and heard scullery gossip.

When she got picked up by her new father figure, she learned from the Shelynites.

While we're going over backstories, I think I'd like to submit mine for critique
>Family broke off from a Chelish noble house decades ago and moved to Varisia, gradually migrating until they hit Sandpoint
>Tried to fit in but to the locals they're so Chelish they shit imps
>Rumors of devil worship abound, and intensify when the family's son disappears just after his wife dies in childbirth
>Twin boys spend their early years friendless, one buckles down to study while the other lashes out all the time
>Hothead kid ends up meeting Ameiko she's the first other kid who doesn't seem afraid/angry at him
>She and her friends become his first friends
>Aw, ain't that cute
>Wait shit they're hitting puberty this is going to stop being cute real fast
>Grandparents and headmaster of the local school arrange for him to be a squire to a knight
>It's just like my Tian chapbooks!
>Squirehood goes well, learning about magic, fighting monsters, doing good
>Late Unpleasantness happens, a letter reaches him that his brother disappeared just after the fire. Grandfather's already died, grandmother's in her last days
>Has to go home after a hasty ordainment, tries to pick up where his brother left off and run the family business
>Been fighting a losing battle ever since as supply lines dry up, contracts expire, customers go elsewhere
>Goes monster-/bandit-hunting to supplement income
>Spends most of his free time at the Rusty Dragon
>Can't just hit on Ameiko 'cause it's not "knightly"
>Can't make any romantic gesture 'cause he's poor
>Starting to doubt his commitment to his oaths

>>50733475
>you COULD pass an adult halfling as a child giant with a ton of extra costuming.

Now I'm stuck imagining the plot of Little Man with giants and a halfling.

>>50734020

Did she learn it at the Shelyn Paladin Seminary and/or under the tutelage of Carin' Marin? If yes, then you really don't.

>>50733998
I have 3 different methods.

1) If its a custom-made map, I do it myself using the roll20's image database

2) If its just a standard set like a throne room or a swamp, I find something from /tg/'s battle maps threads.

3) If its something rushed but not important, like a quick combat encounter, I just draw shapes and maps and objects using the line tool.

>>50734038
>>50734047
I mean, that's more or less what she did for the skills, but trying to explain the Font of Inspiration tradition for Hedgewitch, the whole conversion domain with high social skills, and the Maneuver/Discipline choice is still escaping me. I just feel like I've written too much on the early childhood thing and now don't have space to explain everything else, leading me to want to start a new character.

>>50734077
Hm.

The basic stuff roll20 has available... they're not very good. I've purchased a few packs, and even them, I don't like them that much.

I wonder if that Virtual Battlemap thing on steam is any good...

>>50733977

>That spoiler

Well lube me up and call me the excavator, because I want to tunnel this Dwarf!

>>50734047
>Carin' Marin

Marin Karin?

>>50734096
I don't really use roll20's maps. they suck.

I use their objects and textures to make my own maps.

This isn't bad either but I rarely use it because I'm a lazy fucktard: http://pyromancers.com/dungeon-painter-online/

>>50734108
Death is not a hunter unbeknownst to its prey

>>50734123
>http://pyromancers.com/dungeon-painter-online/

oh geeze, this is way too perfect.
This is a great dungeon map builder.

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Alright, got a Kobold I'm working on, and I'm giving it Mixed Scales feat.
What color works well with Red? In terms of aesthetics and/or stat wise.
Would it be garish to also go a third color with the Golden or Carnation Scales trait?

>>50734123
I tried using this once and I realized it would take a million years.

Time to pop some of my adderall and get to it.

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>>50734085

Well, if you're really not feeling the character anymore, that's your prerogative. But unless those specific character choices are critical components of her backstory (and considering the difficulty you're having, they probably aren't), then you can probably lump them all together under "Shelyn's Finishing School for Awoos".

>>50734108

Sounds pretty appropriate, since, you know, Shelyn.

>>50733802

Are you transforming them into undead? Because few people seem to appreciate it when you do that.

>>50734154
Three colors? They'll be the peacock of the kobold world! Bound to attract the eye of all the kobold lads and lasses!

>>50734173
If that's the case then I might just say something to the point of "trained with paladins, learned books, talking and glaive, sent to sandpoint to look at new temple and start travelling world." I just feel like that's a bit lame, but I guess I haven't done much with that time period anyway. It kinda feels like a waste though, hence my faggy-ass whining.

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>>50733977

>>50734217
Does it help she's a major Ojou-sama with delusions of grandeur and a Cha score to match?

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>>50734263

Anon, let me offer you some advice.

You're thinking way too ding dong hard about this, >>50734173 is giving wisdom when he says you shouldn't have to spend a paragraph to explain a single line of text on your character sheet.

Might I suggest you take the Sir Duncan the Tall approach? What I mean by this is your character is off to Sandpoint not for a celebration, but a burial; your mentor, a wonderful older man that had found your character wandering terrified in the streets and took her in*, has recently passed away, and he had said how he wanted to be buried on the hill overlooking Sandpoint (he always did like the ocean, the salty old codger.)

*She was wandering the streets because she couldn't handle being cooped up in the manor anymore, only to discover it's scary out there! It's a miracle she was picked up by a Paladin of Shelyn and not a Cleric of Folca! She told him about mom and dad, he took her back to her parents, and promptly realized just how toxic they are for the lovely young girl. So he offered a deal, he'll tutor the girl in the ways of the divine, and thereby get her out of their hair. Well, just to happens he was going to tutor her at the Shelynite Temple, with a gaggle of other students aaaaaand this is where you cue the "she's terrified of large crowds due to her long-term isolation."

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>tfw putting off leveling up from last session due to shit happening over the week
>remember I still have to write up an entire character sheet for a cohort for a different game, a 6th level elven Warlock Vigilante
>been putting this off for months, because the game this cohort was for has been on hiatus for a while
>still have yet to even make sure that the stuff from Jolly's books is okayed, since without it I don't really want to touch Warlock
>she's the half-sister to the PC who took leadership

Putting stuff off is a hell of a drug.

>>50734413
I would try to woo her.

How would she feel about a muscular knightbold with a propensity for dramatic flexing?

What classes let me take Inquisitions? Inquisitor, Ordained Defender, what else?

>>50734446
Part of the reason I'm thinking so hard about this shit is because I can't gauge if the writing is good other than if /pfg/ talks about it. Which is a super shit metric, I know, but it's one of the only ones I've got. And unfortunately, everything I try to do in the thread tends to be overshadowed by fetish characters, memes, and the local favorites. /pfg/ has talked about who they think is well written in the past and I've never really been mentioned there. Even if it's just /pfg/, I at least want someone to tell me I've done a good or bad job.

>>50734043
Either back off on the familial tragedy or play it up. It's kind of a weak hook to just say his brother and father "disappeared".

Tighten it up and restrict it to just one of them having actually done something horrible (feel free to just imply it and leave it open if you don't want your character to know what it was yet )or just have it be that they died mysteriously. An implied family curse works just fine, especially if they might have vindictive Chelish relatives.

>>50734539
any class that lets you take a domain

>>50734572
Amen brother.

Path of the Righteous leak yet?

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>>50734572
>both the character and her creator just want a pat on the head and to be told they did a good job.

I've said it a few times that I think Silvia's a solid pitch, but she needs to actually see play to really get mileage. That goes for most of the unmemed characters, really.

In a few months I'm going to be joining a new campaign, what class should I play /tg/? I'm feeling a blaster caster wizard

>>50734722
Make a good first impression by NOT rolling a caster in your first game.

>>50734807
>blaster caster, blasting WIZARD no less
>anywhere near effective

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>>50734572

Okay, I'm reading your pastebin right now and I'm seeing someone with a firm grasp of grammar and a solid vocabulary that's having a Tiny Tim's worth of Trouble on setting up shifts to the next plot point. All in all, it's stressful but nothing insurmountable. There's plenty of places I'd prod at with a stick and tell you to either revise it or remove it, but that's really not something we should do here as it would take a touch too much time.

The first paragraph is solid. I like how you gave us who she was, why she was considered a bastard, and how she was treated by the family. The second paragraph starts off strong with her retreating into her own little worlds, and while I'd keep her loving the Shelyn stories I'd remove the bit about her occasionally feeling something with her half-siblings. This woman should feel like a princess trapped in a tall tower at this moment - she's lost in her fairytales, make it *sound* like she's daydreaming in one.

And when she leaves the manor? Ah, it's a whole new world! A byzantine array of streets filled with sights and sounds and life and laughter! She sees merchants and guardsmen and sailors, but she always feels a tinge of longing when she sees children with their mothers, or lovers embracing, they had something she didn't. During one of these adventures she grows bold, and follows a pair to the Shelynite Temple... And there? She sees a kindly old man, sitting in the garden! What's he doing there, she might wonder?

He looked friendly, so she sat with him, and when she sat she talked, and when she talked she found she couldn't stop - this was what she needed, the love and attention she was denied, his words were bread and she was starving, and when she got home she chattered away to uncaring parents about how much fun she had! It was great!

... And you could see where the rest of this goes, when they offer to let her stay there all the time, if she likes it so much.

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>>50734572

You've done a good job, anon. You really don't need to worry all that much.

>>50734722

That actually sounds like it could be fun. Maybe I should think about playing one, next game I find.

Also joining into the backstory clusterfuck
>Treesinger 3 || UMonk 1/ Dynamic Striker Consumed Vigilante 2

>Two Minkaian Elf clans go Montague/Capulet
>Son of one clan and daughter of other clan go Romeo and Juliet
>Romeo's dad gets pissy and forbids him to visit Juliet. Romeo and his three brothers start doing so in secret and lo, a bastard son is born
>This causes such an outrage that at one point, assassins come to kill the lovebirds. Mother dies in crossfire.
>Four brothers leave Tian Xia and hide in Lurkwood, where they decide to raise their son to hate society.
>Son turns out to be a good Druid who's especially good with trees. Makes friends with some sentient vines as a result.
>Son begins asking questions about why they keep living here, why they're so rude to people, and where's mom. His dad and uncles keep dodging questions.
>They eventually tell the truth.
>"Fuck you dads, I'm gonna become a ninja!" [He thinks Ninjas are honorable warriors because he's contrarian against his folks]
>Throws away identity and becomes THE GODDAMN BATNINJA who kills evil people b/c JUSTICE
>Runs across Koya, who handily hands his ass to him.
>Forced to join her on the journey, where she manages ever so slightly to nudge him to not simply be a vengeful asshole.
>Eventually arrive at Sandpoint, where Koya offers him a place to stay. He refuses so he can continue being a vigilante. Just a less murderous one.
>But even as he stays near Standpoint as a guardian of the forest, but his heart yearns to return to Minkai, to avenge his mother's murder and end the feud once and for all.

Not sure where to trim off, if need be.

>>50734832
>implying you're not tempted to prep cloudkill, hold person, and every other decent to great cc spell

>>50734572
>>50734834

Now, if I remember correctly I pitched a while back that you need to convey emotion more than a bulky story, and the easiest way to get in the mood is listening to music.

You know what I feel when I think about Silvia exploring Korvosa and coming across her kindly teacher, and all that transpires thereafter? This song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUTsJ-8s1k

Just my opinion, but try it on for size, see if that helps the juices flowing in the direction you need them to!

>>50734854
Not sure there are that many elves in Minkai--Tian Xia's largest concentration of elves is in Jinin, and it's sort of implied most don't wander far from there.

Maybe back it down from "clans" to just "families", with the idea being that any and all retainers, soldiers, etc. were humans.

>>50734572
You're doing a good job anom, take a breath.
You can't compare your self to thensure memes, pfg just loves them and there's hardly any good there

>>50734899
Honestly, even as someone whose character got memed, I'm still wondering if I should go back and change sometime to make it more refined.
No longer being the only Literal Animal has really made me think

>>50734524
It would take about 3 different story or character arcs for her to realize she appreciates your company and that the silly fool you are is an important part of her life.

Granted, expect her to regard you as more of an invaluable and irreplacable part of her "hoard"
She took the Covetous Oracle Curse, she thinks herself to be just as mighty and important as a dragon, and tries to act as such

>>50734807
i've already left a negative impression with a bard skillmonkey because apparently she does everything ever :^(

>>50734977
I'm okay with this.

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>>50734043
Figure it's better to post the full thing than the greentext version if I'm angling for criticism, so here it is.
http://pastebin.com/m90BJWT9

>>50734954

You might not be the only LITERAL ANIMAL anymore, but you're still a TRUE HERO.

>>50734572
Despite the memes NToRacle is actually an interesting character.

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>>50735027

I've only got one thing to say about what I just read.

Good work.

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>>50734618

>>50735049
Isn't his whole character basically just the legalistic curse "I can't lie" thing taken to extremes?

>>50734618

Yes

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>>50734899

Are there any meme'd characters you think should not have gotten meme'd?

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>>50735060
That actually means a lot, Anon, thanks. Merry Christmas

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I've been working a little bit on Fionna Deverin (>>50689408 if you care) and I've decided that her vigilante identity will be called the Vilderavn. My question to you, /pfg/, is: would it be too cheeky if I changed her first name to something that could be shortened to Val (and thus end up with a tongue-in-cheek Val Deverin/Vilderavn duality)?

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>>50735132
>would it be too cheeky if I changed her first name to something that could be shortened to Val (and thus end up with a tongue-in-cheek Val Deverin/Vilderavn duality)?

>Implying there's anything wrong with cheeky

Go for it, you wonderful person you.

No joke, this influx of awesome character concepts makes me think I don't have a good chance of getting in. I'm fine with this!

>>50735132
It's a little on the nose, but then again I based my character's name on a Capcom in-joke. Valeria "Vilderavn" Deverin is profound by comparison.

>>50735091
I think the only one that really called for it was the NTR Oracle. Considering his existence was based of of jokes. I don't want people to take that as a slight on there character. But keep in mind the memers don't even know the NTR ORACLE NAME. Need I remind people of the Awoo meme?

>>50735091
It's more that I wish the memes were different. Casimir being a DILF should evolve naturally rather than being a forced meme, and Ricktor probably deserves better than being known as "the NTR guy".

>>50735132

Valerie is a lovely name, and Val is an equally lovely pet name. It fits the character, it's cheeky, it has a tinge of the prim n' proper bearing you'd expect from a naval woman. It's great.

>>50735091
IMO, no.

Every meme character has been shallow and made of either jokes, fetishes or both.

>>50735263
>Every meme character
>when asking about characters who were meme'd

Genuine curiosity compels me to ask you to expand on this. I know there's the obvious "characters who literally revolve around fetish, and that's it", but there are other characters who got meme'd.

>>50735282
>>50735295
Fuck, brain fart. Sorry

He's saying that all the characters that got memed desrved it.

>>50735282
See >>50735311

They brought this upon themselves.

>>50734154
So, anyone else actually have a valid answer to this?

>>50735391
Well red and gold go together. Black would fit nicely. And it doesnt have to be scattered colors, it could be gradient or otherwise sectioned. I think itd be fine.

Okay, so explain Destruction Blasts to me.

Your blast is on a ranged touch attack, right?

If you miss, do you still spend all those spell points?

>>50735420
>If you miss, do you still spend all those spell points?
Yes, you choose to spend the points to enhance it before casting it.
Once you cast it, if it misses then those points are spent

>>50735420
Yes, which is why you don't spend spell points on the ranged touch blasts.

>>50735443
>>50735444

Alright, thanks.

I was thinking of doing some stupid Soulfire cheese, but if missing can completely fuck it over, never mind.

>>50735087
Links? Been out of town for a while

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>>50735311

Can any of them be saved? Do you think any of them *should* be saved?

>>50735458
No. Honestly I want to see people talk about un-memed characters and how they could be changed improved, etc.

Let's play a game, anons.

You have a level 7 character. He has access to four ley lines. Their bonuses are

>+1 to Caster Level
>+2 to Caster Level
>+1 to Caster Level
>+1 to Caster Level

How do you set him up to do the most damage possible? SoP and all DSP stuff allowed.

>>50735478
This might be a good idea.
I mean, the guy who made Gallius took the criticism of that other anon to heart and decided to change how to RP his character.

We probably should take a look at the more reserved characters, and see both how they can be improved, and in what parties they'd work best in.

>>50735478

What about the old crow, Umidori Hikari? She's got a good backstory, but it's a bit on the long side!

Actually, you know what? Fuck that - it's not long, it's detailed. It says what it needs to say and I like it for that.

>>50735525
By choosing the +2 to CL one?

>>50735295
>>50735311
>>50735372
I mostly ask because "meme'd" is kind of nebulous, and could be anything. Labeling ANYBODY who got meme'd as either a joke, a fetish, or both paints using an excessively broad brush. Not that I disagree in regards to the main culprits, but there's a bunch of collateral. Then again, who cares if its animals caught in the crossfire?

>>50735552
I still like how one guy apparently forgot to put where his character was from, and nobody else caught it until another character from the same area cropped up.

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>>50729202
>>50729282
>>50730904
Okay I'm writing this now while I'm in bed and may fall asleep at some point before completion, but what I'm stopped on right now is FLUFF, so I want ideas lads before I even continue.

What's already decided:
-Occultist/Vigilante are the hybrided classes
-Class is about picking a basic party role every day or during any 1h break (undecided)
-You get nearly full power as a traditional class in that role but your options will be narrower than theirs once selected (so you'd get high level spells as "sorcerer" but you would only know a small number, or as "rogue" you'd get Sneak Attack but only pick like 2 skills to max and 1 rogue talent, etc)
-It's not a port of the Chameleon, so I don't want to use that name. It's just the same style of play.
-My starting idea for fluff was too close to a Medium, let's avoid that if it's even possible.

I'd *super* appreciate input on how to fluff/name such a class. You may also rest assured that I am not drunk at all.

>>50733722
Is that a dwarf, an elf, a human, or a skinwalker?

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>>50735778

Yes!

>>50735795
It's not a brown elf though

>>50735876

No, but blond hair, green eyes, and freckles are a combination that works for all but a scant few races.

>>50735876

I've got some brown elves.

they're not lewd, but the outfit's a bit racy.

>>50735091
NToRacle got a really bad rap because DHB is too autistic to catch rapey vibes and optimizes too much.

Every time people brought up a flaw he responded by changing the characters to be more reasonable, but people just kept shouting at him.

See part of it is people still act like he is version 1 and don't even know the character's name (It's Ricktor).

>>50735081
That plus:
>desperate need to find out who his mother was (as his father refused to speak of it)
>curse to not lie and not break promises
>cursed with strange mark on one shoulder of a coiled serpent
>mysterious mentor who seemed to lead him to a clue of his curse then disappeared (who also seemed to get younger)
>made promise to Ameiko
>father died at seemingly the same moment the mentor disappeared (coincidence?)

>>50735959
We get it DHB, people don't like your character. Get over it.

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could y'all help give me recommendations for what maneuvers a great-sword using tanky character (warder is the best class for that right) would use?

>>50735980
I like NToRacle. .

>>50735982
Mega Ultra Cleave

>>50736003
Because you're DHB most likely.

It's a fresh hell when you post your character concepts or greentexts and the extent of your responses are "okay, that's cool I guess."

How can someone WOW you with a character or idea?

>>50736046
memes

>>50735623
You can take multiple, though.

>>50736044
Anon, don't you know? There are only two people on /tg/
You and DHB
This has all been a weird dating simulator between the two of you all along.

>>50736051
>>50736074

That's a good way to get banned

>>50736065

Anon, I'm a memester but I recognize quality when I see it, and people in this very thread have been posting some gold star stuff. I'm just... It feels like I never have the spark, when I make something it looks like gruel to me; filling and nutritious, but it's nothing like the bacon n' eggs from the next kitchen over.

How do I make hype, I guess is what I'm saying. How do I make a character people want to see or discuss? What's it take, a shtick or story? A "thing" or theme? I know I can be good, but I want to be great.

>>50736131
I shall go gracefully into the dark if the mods decide to strike me down

>>50736117
Then both DHB and myself are bigger fucking faggots then we both thought.

>>50736139
First off, you have to imagine how big your character's dick is, and then act accordingly.

Alright lads I was feeling like being a blaster wizard earlier but my DM has given me certain inclinations that he's going to be a fuck so uh

How does one optimize a damage dealing battlefield control wizard?

>>50736173
>How does one optimize a damage dealing battlefield control wizard?
Be a Sorcerer, be Crosblooded.

Orc+Dragon bloodline of your choice
Blood Havoc
Take Empowered and Dazing Spell


You won the game.

Is it weird at all that my GM doesn't use a map for anything? Aside from maybe a town or regional map for when we're traveling. Other than that combat is entirely narrative, and he writes down whether something is in line of sight or how far away we are. Only today did I find that people play Pathfinder like some kind of wargame.

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>tfw you will never play as a CG Cleric og Groetus

>>50736190
not even false priest?

>>50736155

I guess I deserved that answer for asking such an open-ended question.

>>50736227
I'm optimizing Damage, not versatility.

>>50736244
If you want to optimize damage, keep telling your DM you'll show up next time but never actually show up. You'll absolutely destroy the game, I guarantee it.

>>50735982
If you're weilding something like the dragon slayer from berserk, the only technique you've got is actually fucking swinging the thing.

If you're wielding a giant fucking two handed estoc, thats where technique and skill come back into the picture. Introduce perforations to peoples organs, deflect shit, swing and slash, cut open veins and arteries.

Is there any way for me to reach through after someone when they teleport and pull them back through.

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>>50736263

I actually have a deity in my setting based on journeys. Can you guys rate him?

Name: Burel Hall

Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

Title: The Absent Brother, The Joyful Brother

Areas of Concern: Deserts, Lost Causes, Unrequited Love, Wanderers

Domains: Travel, Love (Subdomain of Charm), Luck, Sun

Position: Saint (he isn't a full deity, but a saint in service to a deity).

Origin Story: Burel was one of four brother, all sired of different mothers to the same powerful father. After the passing of their father the brothers made a pact, refusing the inheritance of their father and instead that each would travel a different direction in search of their fortune. Burel, the elder middle brother, was long thought to be complacent in his position as second to be sired. He chose west, so that he may look towards the light during long evenings. For months he walked, stopped for not more than a night. Eventually his travels took him to a desert. Beneath the burning sun his skin reddened, and the long journey had rubbed blisters upon his feet. To no one he complained loudly, proclaiming his misfortune, hearing his own voice so as to help his lonely heart. Then in the distance he saw an enormous rock, looming over a river cut through the dunes, and beyond it the sea. Burel basked in the shade of the rock, and his skin was soothed. He dipped his feet into the water, and they too were soothed. Looking up he spied a figure upon the rock's edge, a woman more beautiful than he had ever seen before, framed by the western sun. And so too his lonely heart was soothed. Realizing he had found his fortune, he set about winning the woman's heart.

pls rate diety

Would it be okay to refluff a Primal X Sorcerer as just having really good natural affinity pyrokinesis/fire magic vs outsider ancestry?

>>50736455
That's actually a pretty fun deity anom.

>>50736456
Sure, why not?

Generally, if you are refluffing something, it's fine as long as it makes sense.

>>50736117
Wait, if I'm neither, then who am I?

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I'm relatively new to DMing and I still don't have a full grasp on how broken some classes are. One of my members is wanting to play a psychic; Is it a class I should be concerned about?

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>>50736263

>>50736514
less broken than the guy building an optimized blaster sorc in this thread

>>50736514

If you can handle a wizard, it should be fine.

>spell focus (evocation)
>spell specialization (fireball)
>bloodmage initiate
>mage tattoo (evocation)
>orc/dragonic
>blood havoc
>level 5
>9d6+27
>not that great desu senpai

>>50736514
Its a psionic wizard. If you know how to DM with a wizard in the group, its no different with a Psion.

>>50736613
Psychic!=Psion

Both are more similar to Sorcerers than Wizards.

>>50736354
No, but 3.5 had a feat where you could follow someone after they teleported.

It had something to do with Githzerai.

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>>50732850
>>50732895
Gust of Wind is good for something, anons; a decent cc option that gets a bit more potent depending on how small the subjects are, and since critters in swarms are typically tiny or tinier, chances are they'll get blown away and possibly even break-up the swarm entirely. But that last bit is more GM caveat than anything else, but you never know if environmental hazards thereof might help.

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Hey faggots I need ambience for an upcoming dungeonpunk campaign.

Any suggestions?

>party should be fighting CR6 monsters
>do a purely vanilla deathweb
>impossible for it to miss, averaging over 20 damage
oh boy

>>50736479
Thanks anon. He's one of four brothers. I don't have many actual deities in the setting. The woman he saw is what amounts to a local pagan demi-god.

There are all of 3 actual gods and a good deal of saints, demi-gods, and powerful spirits around.

>>50736695
I want to marry that drow!

What's your favorite mythic pathway?

I fucking love me Trickster.

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>>50736695
Do you mean a soundtrack, pictures, or a verbal description?

>>50736732
Help with a soundtrack please.

>>50736731
>Not dual-pathing
Pleb

>>50736969
Dual Pathing?

How to run a mecha game in Pathfinder?

>>50737022
Dual Path is a feat, first mythic tier only, that basically lets you pick and choose your shit from two different mythic paths as you like. Sort of like a crossblood sorcerer without hindering your main mechanic.

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>>50736932
Can you tell us more about the flavor of the campaign?

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What's the coolest player race to add the Fey Creature template to? Playing a First World game and I can't decide what race to pick for maximum aesthetics.

>>50732767
>Note: It is a replacement not a bonus
Replacement IS a bonus. It replaces the dexterity BONUS to AC.

>>50737635
Wyveran, I really want to see what a fey looking dragonfolk we be.

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>>50737056
Why do you want to run a mecha game with this system? The size rules wouldn't scale that well.

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>>50737681

>>50737719
Nice

>>50737701
Because there are no good systems for mecha.

>>50737732
Battle Century G is pretty good, isn't it?

>>50737719
>>50737727
I guess I should have kept in mind there are so many types of dragon, both irl and pathfinder, that I should have known something like this already existed. Still.

Nice.

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>>50737739
My copy of d20 Future is halfway across the country.

Maybe Starfinder will have something. How big of a mecha do you want?

>>50737056
Well, you could either A), just refluff everything into giant robots.

Or B) have a look at Gonzo 2's giant mecha rules. I dunno how good they are, but they exist, which is more than can be said for Steelforge.

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Any suggestions for a Twisted Fate build? Or a Card Mage Gambler thingy.
Thanks for the help ^^

>>50736683
Actually, nothing says a wizard can't use gust of wind to start a wildfire or deliver poison gas over a battlefield.

Just gotta be creative in its use.

>>50737857
Card Caster Magus

So the Heritor Knight's Mighty Strike sounds potentially really good, but also kind of vague. I get that the idea is to be able to use the Vital Strike line on anything that does a melee attack as a standard action and not just specifically the attack action, but it's unclear to me if it lets you use it on standard actions that make more than one melee attack such as Cleave.

Either way, it gets silly with a lot of PoW strikes, since most of them are standard actions that make a single melee attack...

>>50737884
Or to flip up a skirt.

>>50737996
>It gets silly with a lot ofor PoW strikes
That's an example of 3pp stuff playing Too nice together, god damn.

>>50737996
Well the downside is that you turn into a woman.

>>50737996
Now see, that's what I was questioning. Does it let you vital strike on a cleave? A spring attack?

Cuz that wording is REALLY unhelpful.

>>50737857
Do you want to fight with cards like Gambit, or do you want to divine the future with them?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid-archetypes/kraken-caller-druid-archetype

How do I make the most of these tentacles, on an Undine who's probably got bad STR

So I'm trying to get my head around the downtime rules and I'm a bit confused about the earnings. Take for instance the animal pen it's earning as listed as such:
"Earnings gp, Goods, or Labor +8"

and is described as:
"It could be used to house animals for food
(like chickens or pigs), display (like song birds or reptiles), or
protection (like dogs or large cats)."

But my question is if I make an animal pen and put a bunch of guard dogs in it how does it generate gp? Or goods for that matter. In general do you usually just hand wave the details or should every building only generate capital based on the details and fluff of said building?

Thoughts?

>>50738055
>>50738055
"whenever you take the attack action" means when you take a single attack action. That means no spring attack, no charge, no cleave, because these are all standard or full round actions of their own. The wording is perfectly clear on each of those feats.

This also means that it doesn't work with any initiator strike because those are also their own actions, and thus are not the basic attack action.

>>50738277

It is left vague so you can customize it. In the even of guard dogs I would imagine you are raising and training them to sell or renting them out.

>>50738277
You breed and rent/sell the dogs. Alternatively, you can use them to guard your other enterprises, thus reducing the number of guards needed.

Fight with cards.

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>>50738332
>>50738358
I guess I wasn't thinking of the buildings enough as all being businesses so long as they can generate gold because I was just labeling shit I already had before we started using the downtime rules. I have a fence around a monster that I subdued but I guess that doesn't really cound as an 'animal pen' in this case and I will have to spend more money to turn it into one because it's really a building with people working there all day to raise a bunch of animals and everything required to do so.

Cheers that helps.

>>50738152
Fight with cards

>>50738401
To be fair, "fence around a scary monster" could work as an animal pen because you're effectively being a zoo at that point; you're getting GP by people coming in and looking at this strange creature from a safe distance. Labor or Goods come from patrons that can't or won't pay GP instead offering services and items.

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>>50738407
Card Caster (Magus)

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo---magus-archetypes/card-caster-magus-archetype

If 3pp is allowed, make a Stalker and take the Card Sharp rogue talent.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/stalker
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo---rogue-talents/card-sharp-su

Focus on Solar Wind and Tempest Gale maneuvers. If you use the Stance of Piercing Rays, your cards can have additional fire damage.

>>50738450
And this exemplifies why PoW is not upgraded martials. They're martial casters.

>>50738460
Problem, nerd?

>>50738460
In this case, they are as magical as a Monk.

>>50738470
Yes. If I wanted my martials to be casters I'd play casters or gish, not martials. At least the Unchained Fighter is something that isn't a caster.

>>50738493
What, precisely, are you defining as "martial casters"? Is it the fact that they have multiple learnable abilities that have repeatable, unique effects for them?

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>>50738449
Interesting idea but I don't think it really makes sense given my specific circumstance (starting an adventuring guild/black market in the desert). But I'm glad you mentioned labor and goods coming from people who can't pay because I have a hard time getting my head in the bartering mindset and I tend to have trouble imagining a situation where someone doesn't spend money for something that they want.

Pic related is my up and coming fort/guild, Ray's End.

>>50738511
>literally fire rays
>literally deflection bonus to AC
>literally flight ability
>literally teleport
I FUCKING WONDER.

Monks have literal magical abilities.

>>50738565
Don't take the supernatural disciplines then?

>>50738450
Thank you. I'll have a look at it.

>>50738555

Instead of bartering maybe it was extorted or stolen goods? You mentioned a black market. Maybe monsters are illegal?

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How do I giant hammer?

>>50738702
Any 3.x material allowed?

>>50738702

Earthbreaker?

>>50738702
with golden fatsuit and cannibalism

>>50738706
Lets say 1pp + POW and SOP

>>50738730
Earth breaker then.

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>>50738678
Pic related is the monster in question, it shoots barbs at small animals and reels them in, mostly birds since I have it in a pen. I wonder if I could train it to catch birds and not eat them, then I could cook up wings for hungry adventures. shame about the whole poison thing though...

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>New brewmaster PrC
>Has brew points (like a magus)
>Can spend points to apply free metamagic on beneficial spells
>Can apply extra statuses on harmfuls, like Prone or Exhausted

Its beautiful

Is there any way to retrain your base ability scores? I know you can retrain your scores gained from leveling up but I haven't seen a way to do it for your base.

We rolled stats and while I did get a high number overall they are pretty spread out.

>>50738742
>>50738715
Well that's nice for the weapon, but what about the build?

>>50738838
Colossal tiefling?

>>50738826
Just ask to do point buy. I'd let my players do that if they didn't like their rolls.

The rough equivalent to 4d6b3 is 18 point buy in Pathfinder.

>>50738777
Nice lucky trips, but how? What book? This sounds delightful.

>>50738934
I doubt I'd get away with that since I've been playing the character for a few sessions now and I made the current DM roll his stats when I was DMing.

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>>50738952

>>50738953
Well I hope you learned your lesson, asshole.

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>>50738969
Thanks

What the heck is Isger and why should I care about it?

>>50738290
Then what the hell is the difference between normal vital strike and mighty strike?

>>50740007
Mighty Strike is literally just giving you Vital and Improved Vital together. It is EXACTLY vital strike.

>>50740179
Why the extra wording then? If what you say is true, it should just say "You gain Vital Strike and Improved Vital Strike as bonus feats." They don' normally explain bonus feats in the class feature that gives them to you unless they're being modified somehow. The extra clause I think pretty heavily suggests that the intention is to give you an extra ability.

>>50732828
I wouldn't recommend PoW unless everyone is playing PoW or has the option to. GM will also need to make his encounters with PoW in mind.

I don't know what to say about her feeling outclassed in terms of damage other than rebuild and optimize. Curious to know though, what kind of encounters does he normally plan for you?

>>50740224
Maybe it was, but FUCK MARTIALS happened again.

Vital Strike series can ONLY be applied when making an attack as a standard action anyways.

In this particular case it looks like they were trying to fuck you out of being allowed to use it for ranged, but luckily you get them as feats ANYWAYS, so you'll just use the feat instead of mighty strike.

>>50740389
This only applies if no one else is using either full vancian casters, full psionic manifesters, or if no one at all has optimized a barbarian or gunslinger.

The PoW encounter modifications are exactly the same as any other high damage dealers; it's just that PoW classes have a strong floor: they START viable in combat, whereas someone rolling up a 1pp fighter or rogue needs decent system mastery and the newest books or risks having no damn hope.

>>50733998
Tiled and Photoshop, keeping in mind Roll20 squares are 70x70.

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>be looking at UC Monk archetypes
>tfw Scaled Monk and Beastsoul Monk stack
>take your free Transformation and Hybrid Transformations
>Dragon Install Monk by lvl 2, only gets even more DRAGON!
feels good man

>>50736046
When you're posting your character concepts or greentexts to actual GMs of actual games you're actually going to play.

I don't see why people care about backstories at all really.

>>50740499

It's because people want to feel like their character is wanted. Getting quietly accepted into a campaign without anyone giving a shit is, to many people, worse than having a super popular character people are rooting for that just doesn't make the cut.

New thread I guess?
>>50740535
>>50740535
>>50740535

>>50736046
Concept art would get my attention.
(And I mean good professional shit you'd see from like Furi or No More Heroes)

Backstories are often generic and cliche, I'd much prefer a general idea of the character.

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>>50740539
We're not even at the bump limit yet, what?

>>50740539

Delete that thread, this one isn't even beyond 310 posts.

>>50740539
We are on page 1 you faglord

>>50740543
Someone was just dying to use that little girl sorc image it seems.

>>50740542

So are you saying it's a bonus to me if I always make characters with quality character art in mind, either from professional artists or high budget games?

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>>50740555
Well that's not a good darned reason!

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>>50740576
I agree.


But while we're here, would you rather an Ifrit or an Undine?

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>>50740609
Sylph.

>>50740609

Why not both?

>>50740609
Since I have a really chuni Ifrit sorceress in my game, I know what I would pick.
[Spoiler]She's also a juicy loli, yum

>>50740563
Why did you spoiler that?
It's a bonus to me because I could look at the concept art of something like The Jailer from Furi and be more interested then reading a greentext or backstory describing him.

If you feel as I do then it's a bonus to you too I guess.

>go back over the Mercurial Duelist in the playtest copy I have
>realization that there's no talent to attack multiple enemies
>an iconic weeb samurai attack
>Somehow I missed this detail during playtests

I wonder what the odds are of Jolly getting to do a Legendary Vigilantes 2: Expanded Boogaloo are.

I want to run a somewhat Wild-West/Clockwerk Pathfinder game with Advanced firearms.

Does anyone have any experience with advanced firearms?

>>50740850
sorry meant to say modern firearms

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>>50740747

Well yeah, I agree with you that ultimately I'd rather get a general "feel" for the character just from a short blurb, their character-sheet, and some artwork for them than some huge five paragraph monstrosity.

And I spoilered it because I'm sassy.

>>50740873
Modern as in, the Rasputin Must Die WW1, Nagant revolver, Maxim machine gun firearms, or modern as in 2016, AR 15, AK74, 92FS, Vepr 12, etc. firearms?

>>50740958
Rasputin Must Die WW1, Nagant revolver, Maxim machine gun fire arms.

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1816336/mummys-mask

Shilling for my mummy's mask game, first session is in 34 hours or so. Get your opportunity to play in a game without character circle jerking, drama or ERP.

>>50741045
They work fine I guess

>>50741066
Not authorized

>>50740624
Don't be greedy anon.

>>50741138

Of course I can get greedy! Ifrit are hot but dry and Undine are always wet but uncomfortably cool. Combine the two and you got warm n' slippery.

>>50741084
https://app.roll20.net/join/1816336/n5VZkg

>>50741178
Combine them and it gets kinda steamy.

Is there a means by which one can get Flurry of Blows to work with a Panoply of Blades?

>>50741386
If you turn your panoply into fist shape maybe

So since we're in autosage; what's the chart again? You know the one. Promise I'll save it this time.

>>50741546

Just tell us what race you're rolling for, and what gender.

>>50741587

Female dwarf

>>50741327
so damp, uncomfortable, and lukewarm.

I suggest just oiling the hot bitches instead.

>>50741631

2d4+2 or 2d6.

Dwarven women are famously busty

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>>50740794
>mfw think that maybe a Kineticist gestalted with Mercurial Duelist might be neat, due to that one weapon ability to use a blast with a single attack a round
>mfw it is neither spherecaster nor PoW, and it's probably objectively compared to an initator
>mfw realizing in order to build the kineticist half I need to actually go through an entire wiki's worth of information just to figure out what works and which stuff from Jolly's books to pull for the theme I want
>mfw still legit considering it instead of Magus||Stalker

Someone please stop my mind before it hurts me

>>50741649
I think that's the standard solution.

What Gestalt do I want for your standard Two-handed sword girl? Warlord x something?

>>50741658
if you're holding anything you can't use gather power.
ANYTHING. you can be have six thousand hands and a prehensile tail, and if even ONE of those is holding anything in it, no gather power.

You can attain tiers 4 or even 3 if built well with 3pp, so do read the jolly books (they also provide a glove you can use to hold a single item, and legendary kineticists has a light crossbow that you can fire kinetic blasts through too) and also consider the avant-garde or gambler.

>>50741696
I'd say Warder||Fighter

>>50741736
Unless she pulls those out of hammerspace, at which point it's probably soulknife.

>>50741631

I think that was a 2d4, but honestly it might get broken up along gender lines because as >>50741650 says Dwarven Women tend to have a lot going on in the front.

Unless I'm misinterpreting cup sizes entirely and 2d4 would make her plenty big because she's so short.

>>50741743
Or armorist.

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>>50741721
Well, TECHNICALLY that could actually work, because Mercurial Duelist's gimmick is Iaijutsu, so I could gather power and THEN make the strike, and start the next round "with nothing in my hands". Would that still cancel out the gather power part, if I have something in my hands at ALL during the round, or only when doing a Gather Power action?

I also know I pretty much HAVE to use Jolly's stuff and/or Avante-garde/gambler to make the class not shit. That's why I said I'd have to go through an entire wiki's worth of information for it.