/swg/ - Masters of Teräs Käsi Edition

>>50719413
I was a bit surprised they used the whole Mujahedeen look for the extremists Rebels. I mean they are still the good guys even though they are extremists.[/spoilers]

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>>50719497
>Rebels
>Good Guys

>>50719497
it was an interesting choice. I think their willingness to kill bystanders and comfort with hurting people in the way of their missions is a really good demonstration of the differences between the various rebel factions. Hearing rebel leaders later discussing surrender amongst alliance personnel was also very interesting.

>>50719497
>>50719539
r1 did an excellent job of fleshing out the rebel alliance like it was in the eu, comprised of several disparate groups with different motivations and end games in mind

>>50719457
oh wait rogue one is out? shit. should i watch it in theatres or just pirate?

>>50718714

I kinda assumed it was very much a "Come as you are" modification, I mean, at least the MC-80's make some small efforts at standardization.

>>50719527
Knock it off.

>>50719588
Is based Garm back?

I just realized I probably won't be able to see the movie until the DVDs hit anyway, so might as well get the spoilers over with.

>>50719593
Theater. It's great.

>>50719593
It looks pretty good.

>>50719595
It would be neat if the whole thing can be detached, and then with the big ship hangar it would make it really easy to abandon ship.

>>50719627
No. But Saw feels a lot like him, now. He's described as a more militant offshoot of the Rebellion that doesn't play along with the rest of the cool kids.

>>50719593
Go watch it in theaters. I've only seen the non-3D version (yet) so i can't speak how for good the 3D is but the regular version is a really good movie.

>>50719627
Garm himself isn't there I think. This was a few days before ANH, so he could still definitely fit in the timeline. he could even be another extremist faction like Saw's group, since they're implied to be a few other extremist factions (I think mon mothma describs Saw as 'one of' the extremist factions who left the rebellion)

>>50719627
Garm is a no-show, but we do get a General Syndulla name-drop and based Tarkin on screen.

>>50719627
>>50719644
i'm with this anon. saw, although ideologically different from garm (more spies and insanity, less mon mothma's a cunt), seems to fulfill the same sort of narrative

>>50719593
Theater, worth it super hard. Better than Force Awakens.

>>50719662

>Rebels cast
Meh.
>Tarkin
Neat. Heard that Cushing's likeness was going to be included. I'm guessing from the warm reception that they did it well.


>>50719644
Is he still glorious Corellian freedom-flavored or is he one of the potentially objectionable Space Mujahideen mentioned in a previous post? I haven't kept up with character names outside of Biggs, Discount Jan, and Diet Kyle.

>>50719701
Nobody in Rebels actually shows up, just a couple shots of a VCX and Hera's name over the comms.

>>50719701
Leader of the space mujahedin. Really sad about no based Garm, tho.

>>50719728
Chopper actually buzzes by in one scene

>>50719728
How are the T-65 pilots? Worthless redshirts or cool enough for one to be hopeful for another XWM T-65 box?

>>50719755
We'll definitely see Blue Squadron

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Press 'F' to pay respects.

>>50719701
Space Mujahideen who, for no good reason, let's himself be blown up, so kind of a letdown. We did get a new Mon Cal admiral who's fucking great and managed to take down two ISDs with masterful tactical application of Y-Wing bombing runs and actual, corvette-to-destroyer RAMMING SPEED. Also Vader being badass. The Tarkin cameos were done through CGI application on an actor's face. Well done but kinda noticeable.

>>50719701
Saw is a soldier who's been fighting for 23 legs. Both his legs and potentially his lungs and more are all gone, replaced by cybernetics. he leads the Mujahadeen rebels on Jedha, and its hard to say just how much his acceptance of collateral damage is because of a star destroyer that sits overhead or his usual play. Jyn is basically his adopted child, its implied he ditched her because his people wanted to use her as ransom since she's the daughter of an imperial scientist. He dies on Jedha yelling for Jyn to save the rebellion and the dream, and watching a cloud of death approach him to kill him. Its hard to say.


>>50719755
red squadron shows up, including Wedge on a radio. Blue Squadron is a mixed squad of U-wings and X-wings, and get some awesome scenes. They show up during the briefings, and while they all die they help keep the TIE strikers off of the ground troops, take down a number of AT-ACTs, and knock out a Star Destroyer's shield generator. We also see the Red 5 Luke takes the place of.

>>50719782
>F
I wish Imwe survived. I loved his character

>>50719755
Believe it or not, Gold Squadron's Y-Wings are instrumental, whereas the X-Wings play second fiddle. Also noticed the Tierfon Yellow Aces on someone's helmet.

Fuck, this thread has more black bars than a CIA document.

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>>50719790
Hold the fuck up, they actually brought Denis Lawson back? How much money did they throw at him?

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>>50719457
The urge to open up these spoilers before seeing the movie is rising, might have to leave the /swg/ for a bit.

>>50719817
Sadly its just someone calling for Red 2 and a radio response, although we also see Red Leader and Gold Leader.

>>50719807
>whereas the X-Wings play second fiddle
they were helpful planetside. and red squadron outside of luke and wedge sort of sucked dick in anh

>>50719832
Oh. Still neat. Same actors as in the OT but with CGI youth treatment?

>>50719817
Name drop, but no actual voice, buddy. Also might have been a reference to Captain Antilles of the Tantive IV, because we also get a Leia cameo. We do get cameos for Red Leader and Gold leader from Ep IV and I'm fairly certain I saw Biggs' manly mustache at some point.

>>50719847
I think it's clever editing from actual Ep IV footage for the pilots, Leia is CGI.

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>>50719859
Just those guys or does the movie also herald the return of the Porkmaster?

>>50719847
it was weird. they had a bit of a filter on them, it might have very well been the original actors or they might have wholesale lifted some of the shots from ANH and messed with them. I personally would guess actors with some filtering and CGI work, but it could be as >>50719859 says.

>>50719866
No Porks were harmed during the making of this movie, but we see the previous holder of the Red 5 title and I'd say he's a solid contributor to Porkin's memetastic legacy

>>50719627
>>50719859
>>50719866
>>50719880
I am 90% sure they straight up used ANH footage for Red Leader Pops and Gold leader. The lighting completely changes and the stars in the background seem a little more dated. not sure about Biggs. Tarkin and Leia were CGI, Tarkin';s was great but a little TOO animated at times, Leia's was not animated well at all.

>>50719701

>I'm guessing from the warm reception that they did it well.

It's obviously fake but still remarkably well done considering. Like 99.5% realistic. And for the treat of getting Cushing's likeness in a new Star Wars movie I was personally willing to overlook the remaining .5%.

>>50719924
my place of employment just announced a free employee screening. During the second watch through I'll pay close attention to that and see if I can provide a better answer.

>>50719983
I still will see it again with friends, probably not going to buy tickets the second time, I'm still mad about some of disney's employment policies.

>>50719983
>my place of employment just announced a free employee screening
where the fuck do you work?

>>50719924

It's interesting, I actually thought Leia's was the better of the two. Although I admit I chaulked that up to the fact that she was on screen for far less time and did far less than Tarkin did.

Also, I vote we drop spoiler text by this time tomorrow. Anyone who hasn't seen it by that point and doesn't want to be spoiled should really just have the common sense to not be poking around in a 'Star Wars General'.

>>50720010
>I'm still mad about some of disney's employment policies.
??
care to elaborate?

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>>50720010
>Disney's employment policies
>mfw planning on applying for an entry-level position at Disney
Anything an aspiring office grunt should be worried about?

>>50720026
I disagree, end of the weekend at the earliest if not the next week.

>>50720042
>>50720038
Making people train their indentured-servant replacements brought in from India on H1B visas that are specifically for jobs that don't have Americans and then bribing a judge to pretend that they DIDN'T lie on those visa forms.

>>50720026
>Also, I vote we drop spoiler text by this time tomorrow
what you dont like reading about REDACTED and having it all interrupted by REDACTED

>>50720012
Movie Theater. Up until this morning Disney was saying we couldn't do our usual pre movie release employee screenings. they just relented.

>>50720060
>Making people train their indentured-servant replacements brought in from India on H1B visas
that sounds like both the old employee and the new employee are getting fucked

>>50720080
Well presumably the new employee is slightly less fucked than they were in the pollution related mutation capitol of the world.

But if they step out of line and Disney fires them? They get deported immediately, hence "Indentured Servant."

>>50719742
Is there a screencap?

>>50719662

ADMIRAL Syndulla. The distinction is important -- GENERAL Syndulla would likely be Cham. Admiral all but has to be Hera.

>>50719457
I posted in last thread but only got one reply.

Can I please have some ideas for a Lore Heavy themed Force and Destiny campaign? I want to take my players on a journey into the past where Sith and Jedi are rooted in deep seeded mystery and legend, where beasts of the tales told around camp fires roam, and where magical artifacts can be found.

>>50720060

I don't really see what the point is; it's all we're going to be discussing anyways so it's not like they'll be coming here anyways.

I suppose it could be argued that we're protecting those who are scrolling through /tg/ in general but really anyone attempting to avoid spoilers from any significant work of media should just avoid 4chan in general.

Ah, fuck it, until after the weekend it is.

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>>50720060
>Making people train their indentured-servant replacements brought in from India on H1B visas
>Fucking with the courts
Motherfuckers. There's corporate pragmatism and then there's being a colossal cunt.

>>50719788
Saw can barely walk, or breath. He definitely can't run. There's no way he'd have survived, even if he tried.

>>50719848
The Captain Antilles name-drop was the Antilles from Leia's blockade runner.

Since it's not really a spoiler:

I'd argue the Tarkin parts were incredibly well done. There were a few moments that you could tell it was CGI, but only a few. He DID chew up the scenery a tad, and was a bit too expressive -- Cushing was a master of showing a full range of emotion with the quirk of an eyebrow. It was still fucking uncanny, like they threw him on ice in '77 and thawed him last year.

>>50720128
The line was "General Syndula."

>>50720259
In a galaxy where anti-gravity repulsor tech, mechanized limbs and flying droids exist, I find it just a tad difficult to believe that a well known, active soldier/leader/veteran can't just keep a bloody hoverchair handy, especially if his life functions depend on a weird breathing apparatus

>>50720366
Such items would have a negative effect on troop morale if kept at hand. Better to be seen as invulnerable than frail.

>>50720294
Is it the method they used to get Arnie in the recent terminator movie?

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Hey troopers. I'm looking to run a star wars game for some friends and I was thinking of having the PCs as a squad of Storm troopers (I'm thinking post rogue one, but pre death star vs. Alderaan). Any ideas or resources I should incorporate? I'm trying to get as much as I can from pic related, but what are some good ways to keep being a storm trooper interesting? Help me /swg/, you're my only hope.

>>50720306

Was it? I heard "Admiral". I see other sources posting "General", so I could've misheard. Someone will have a transcript on the short.

>>50720611
She was definitely General, the Admiral was the new Mon Cal.

>>50720602
Your campaign is going to last like 20 minutes?

>>50720602
>post rogue one, but pre death star vs. Alderaan

That's like 48 hours total, dude.

>>50720164
I mean there's no CONCRETE proof they bribed thejudge, but H1B requires you to affirm that you could not find americans for the job, and if you JUST FIRED Americans from that job you clearly lied on your H1B paperwork.

>>50720294
The face was great, but yeah the part I liked least was how much he moved.

>>50720626
That's when it starts, but it'll lead into episode 4 and continue from there

Alright, now I'm reading reports that the Ghost was visible during the battle of Scarif. Did anyone see if it managed to punch out before Vader curbstomped the fleet?

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>>50720734
I didn't keep track but probably. Only a few ships impacted on Vader's ISD I did like how Rogue 1 made the ISD1 guns very distinctive. Though the ISDs seemed a little short in some scenes.

>>50720734
The only problem is **it didn't get destroyed so the terrible show it's from isn't over yet.**

>>50720935

(intentional spoiler fuckup possibly)

>>50720935
Im just going to pretend it god destroyed with all hands on board. It answer that "why the fuck arnt those 2 jedi training Luke" perfectly.

>>50720935
>>50720948
edgy

>>50720948
That's unlikely they may have already died or dropped out. After all It makes the gravity they had about hauling out Obi-Wan fit better.

>>50720948

It's pretty much a given that not!Rahm Kota and Darth Whinypants will either wind up dead or somewhere so far off the map it won't matter.

>>50721045
It would be better if they were already dead I agree

I hope the Partisan with a stolen repainted scouttrooper helmet gets a page in the visual dictionary.

>>50721109
Speaking of those guys, when did their X-Wing even show up in the movie? I never noticed it.

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>>50721158
Crashed, that's all I saw.

I'm more upset that some of them don't show up later, like say joining in on Scariff.

Which bearded Rebel was Dodonna? The talky one or the quiet guy in the back?

I want to play a mid-to-high powered game of Age of Rebellion, while letting people dip into some of the other books as well. How much EXP should I be giving to my players for this to build characters?

>>50721673
Quite one if I remember right

http://imgur.com/a/8MIqz

More stuff from the Visual Dictionary. The creature design is on point. Pablo did really well with the character bios as well.

>>50721783
And MY bookstore refused to break the street date by even a few hours.

darth vader's first appearance is fucking amazing. I love his bants with Krennic.

>>50721783

I keep looking for some good HD shots of the Rebel OPERATORs. I need a shopping list when I go dive surplus stores. Next up: a DEATH FROM ABOVE Aurebesh stencil.

>>50721783
More? Where's the earlier stuff?

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>>50721783
Definitely on my shopping list, those books just seem to have all kinds of random-fact stuff in them for ideas that I can steal for games.

>>50721949
Vader... hoooly shit! If people haven't seen the movie I'm not going to spoil it for them, its impressive.
We've seen Vader beat people up, choke bitches and a few other things, but he really gets let off the chain to fuck some shit up.

>Your party sees Vader come down down the hallway
>Roll to see who dies first

>>50721158
I saw it in the background of one scene. It was quick.

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>tfw when after rogue one you get the urge to play EoTE but you remember no one plays EoTE in your area.

Is Armada fun?

How does it compare to Xwing?

>>50722075
I felt like I was pushed into my seat by the tension I felt in that scene. The god damn pure terror and panic in the Rebels. When that last Rebel realizes its all over for him and just passes the data in the hope it may make a difference.

>>50721783
So, evanzavan is running the same brainstealing scam he was in legends! and the talking guy WAS Dodona.

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Deathtroopers are my favorite type of trooper now, even if they don't really do shit. They just have a grace of motion to them that belies their athleticism and power, like real SAS types.

According to the visual dictionary, they're not just Krennic's, either. They're the best of the best, and used to guard critical operations and high profile Imperial leaders.

Not to mention, they're augmented with classified cybernetics. And DAT VOICE SCRAMBLER.

Pic related: 6'5" and made of durasteel.

>>50722158
LMAO2stock aside they are pretty amazing. I like shoretroopers and drivers too.

Though I wish they gave the drivers the Snowtrooper/veers chestplate.

>>50722158
Also in the Visual Dictionary, they reference an earlier use of the name "Death Trooper," and tie it in with the old Legends undead zombie death troopers.

They're named after zombies, because Palpatine understand the power of symbols... and because they're said to be immortal.

Their unit is TI-23 "The Undying"

Squeee.

>>50721783
Wqit a minute, that's not the same driver helmet as the tank pilot. That's just a shoretrooper helmet painted white! The visor is too tall.

>>50721783

Where da U-wings at

I just looked at the weight measurements. That Canadian-Chilean asshole is using Stone, that better just be for the british release or else I'll be mad.

>>50722075
In terms of power level is he more like what he did in Rebels, or what he did in the vader down comics?

>>50722261
He doesn't go full Dynasty Warriors like Vader Down. [/spoiler.]

>>50722269
That's good enough for me, thanks Anon

>dat hammerhead scene
Dat's proper Orky dat is
WHAAAAAAAGH

>>50722297
Spoilers, mang.

>>50722297
The way he does it so casually though
That's great

>>50722312
Opps. I swear I hit ctrl+S. My apologies

>>50722138
>Is Armada fun?
Depends on who you play with.

>How does it compare to Xwing?
Less people play it, competitive is dominated by one faction but there's a greater variety of ships used.

>>50722312
Seriously though, leave the thread.

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>>50722138
They are both great. XW is a game of tactics, Armada is a game of strategy, Armada has much fewer players mostly due to the cost of entry, so make sure to be active with your local group.

>>50722261
>what he did in the vader down

As soon as he lit the saber, my brain chimed in, "All I am surrounded by is fear. And dead men."

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Dude, all that Vietnam marine looking gear on those rebel troops was fucking great.

One trooper even had metal rods in his helmet band that were probably some kinda ammo, but looked like cigarettes - and another had a blaster pack that had the same look as a cigarette pack.

>>50722424
I actually did the same thing. And boy did it apply there.

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Can someone explain the FFG Init system to me? Because it doesn't make any sense at all.

Basically, as I grasp it...
Init roll is either Vigilance or Cool (depending on whether your surprised or ready), and players roll separately, while the GM rolls for the bad guys. GM tallies up the rolls, and based on the results, depends on whether bad guys go first, or the Party.

At which point the Party just decides who goes when in their own order?

And the Init roll has no difficulty attached too it, with Advantage having no real meaning. Thats where the system loses me, because it seems like an extraneous roll that doesn't rely on the mechanics, and results in the players deciding whatever they want anyway.

I houseruled it in my campaigns that Init has difficulty depending on the circumstances, and these being various levels of preparation or enemy presence (less prepared or more surprised = greater difficulty on the Init roll). At the same time, any successes and advantage (or failure and threat) rolled on Init is added to the first roll of a players turn, so the init roll results are not completely meaningless - coupled with the difficulty, this tends to balance out.

But please, if someone can help me out with what I'm not understanding about the Init system, I'd be grateful.

So, apparently according to the Rogue One ultimate guide ISDs have only 60 heavy turbos (plus a small handful more) and 60 ions, not 60 BATTERIES of turbos. That's a significant downgrade from Legends. (Though we don't know how significant, the exact barrel count on those batteries has always been vague.)

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>>50722732

Sounds more realistic to me.

Star Destroyers have always been kinda stupid with the amount of guns they've been represented with, representing a massive leap from any comparable capital ship that exists or has ever existed.

>>50722551
Here is how it works: The rolls determine initiative slots, not exact player order. Advantages are important in the sense that they break ties. so let say we have 3 PCs, Tom Dick and Harry, and two NPCs, Inquisitor Billy and Agent Steve. Tom rolls 1S 2A, Dick rolls 2S 3A, and Harry rolls 2A because he sucks. Inquisitor Billy then rolls 3S 1A, while Agent Steve rolls 2S 1A. The turn order now looks like this:

1. NPC
1. PC
2. NPC
2. PC
3. PC

Both PCs an NPCs can take whatever initiative slots they want, but only get one slot per round. Agent Steve takes the first NPC slot so he can throw a grenade at the PCs before Inquisitor Billy gets in melee and spoils his shot. Dick takes the first PC slot to light up Inquisitor Billy with his blaster. Inquisitor Billy takes the last NPC slot and charges Tom, who takes the second PC slot to counterattack with his blade and withdraws to give Harry (who isn't really much of a fighter) a chance to take a potshot at Inquisitor Billy. Next round the PCs an NPCs will once again act in whatever is best for the situation within the restrictions of the initiative slots.

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>>50722825

Thats incredibly complicated, but it at least makes sense to me now.

Thank you

>>50722261

More like that one AOR Module where he shows up and will absolutely fuck up your entire parties shit, no ifs, ands, or buts, if they don't bang out within five minutes of his shuttle landing at the base they're raiding.

>>50722888
>Thats incredibly complicated

It may be different, but it isn't complicated. It just takes some getting used to. Have everybody roll, write their results on scratch paper, put together the order like I showed, then have at it. The PCs will decide what they will do for themselves, while all the GM has to do is manage the NPCs and track the order of the round. I really like the system personally because it as an interesting layer of tactical depth to combat.That said, the GM needs to make sure the players don't waste too much time arguing over who should take which slot and do what with it. Force them to make the choice if they take too long, they are supposed to be in combat after all.

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>>50723054

I run games with my laptop cabled to a large TV, and use that as a means to present information (like pictures of things). I can write the slot list, and make it easier for the players to visualize who is going when.

I think that would work rather well.

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>>50722146
Its really bloody raw and Vader's rolling in with the implacability of a glacier- ice cold!

>>50722224
>U-wing
Definite favourite, the new TIE's are pretty cool too. Sort of a fast ground attack bird and that's not been seen before.

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>>50723102
>U-wing

Space Huey - now we need some stats for them, official or otherwise

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>>50719788
>new Mon Cal admiral
F

>>50722732
Let's not forget the Nu-Canon Venator is 1155 meters whereas the Legends Venator is 1137 meters. Odd change.

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>>50722283
Just got back from the theater.
>BRACE FOR IMPACT
>SUBLIGHT ENGINES, FULL POWER
It took me a second to realize I was hugging myself and quivering in my seat. Out of the whole amazing final fleet battle, that bit really took the cake.

Fuck, what a fun movie that was.

>>50719782
>F
For your phone battery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C2wCcuKmLI

>called Imperial Suite
>barely sounds anything similar to the Imperial motif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPr5_R6X7Q

Fucking Force Unleashed had a better mixed up Imperial theme.

>>50723355
Why did that first one sound more like the Dominion theme than the imperial march?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSX5MhCsT9U

>waiting in line for Rogue One
>guy behind me was adamant that you can't sit down in Stormtrooper armour
>cue the movie showing Stormtroopers sitting down.

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/r/ing Pantoran character art.

Can't seem to find much of it anywhere.

Not to mention the species section picture in the scans of Endless Vigil is pretty bad, so if anyone has the book and could take a clearer picture, I'd appreciate it.

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>>50723437

>That point in TCW where Ahsoka suddenly stops being annoying

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Working on some custom cards for a little group project/competition.

Not sure of the wording on this one sounding like the games usual terminology, also points cost too low?

>>50723483
So, the first episode after she's kicked out of the Jedi order?

>>50723531
I would amend that to also mention that you can't have shields remaining, just to make it clear.

>>50721949
I did not like it that much. He seemed downright chipper and talkative, compared to his previous interactions with imperial officers. Maybe he really enjoyed the bath and was in a great mood?

>>50723531
I know it's just for a local group and not that big of a deal, but FFG actually never references the hull value directly. You'd be better off expressing this card as a 'If you have one or more Damage cards you may reroll up to 2 defense dice' and giving it Small Ship Only.

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>>50723578
good point, thanks

updated version

>>50723628
>You'd be better off expressing this card as a 'If you have one or more Damage cards you may reroll up to 2 defense dice' and giving it Small Ship Only.

Would that not be too strong on somthing like an arc that can get the reroll with 5 hull left, or does the 1 agility those kind of ships have limit it enough?

>>50723075
Having cards with two colours (for example my group uses the committed to force cards from the Star Wars card game) for the slots makes it a lot easier to visualize the slots. Just lay out the cards on the table in initiative order. As a slot is spent the card is flipped. Once all cards are flipped just start the turn order from beginning.

If you have a lot of actors you can assign a token for each actor. As they start their turn they place their token on the initiative card to show that they have already acted this turn.

>>50723628
That would make the card significantly stronger (and way too strong for one point). A Protectorate Starfighter or a Kihraxz would quite probably end up having 3 hull left with two rerolls to their evades.

>>50723617

Speaking of, have we known him to take baths like that before in Legends and/or NuCanon or is that brand new?

Also, was his fortress actually on Mustafar?

>>50723114

Any idea what the circle on the back is?

Docking ring? Hyperdrive?

>>50723938
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vader%27s_personal_abode

>>50723940
Looks like the reactor

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Want us to rub more salt in those wounds America?

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There is something fishy about the Mon Cal cruiser in R1

>>50723983

Damn, it WAS Mustafar. That seems masochistic even by Vader standards but I love it. It really hammers home the fact that he hates himself that he would build his fortress of solitude in a place he killed his wife and unborn child and then got hacked up and had all his skin burned off.

So from now on I'm definitely going to imagine it was Galen who didn't put any guardrails in the Death Star.

Revenge!

>>50724068
Oh he's bitter, bitter man that did nothing but murder people and torture them there for the last 19 or so years. I guess in some ways it does make him an easy guy to hate and lends a bit of credence as to why he's referred to as a 'monster' by pretty much everyone- including Palps!

>>50724068

Or, based on how the Emperor treats him (especially in the Darth Vader comics), the Emperor built it for him, as a constant reminder of his failure on Mustafar

>>50724127

That's an interesting and somewhat hilarious possibility as well.

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>>50724127
You just know Palps would sneak in with a handful of sand when Darths off in the tank.
Slips it into his suit, runs off giggling

>>50724230

I bet Sheev has 'NOOOOOOO!' as his ringtone when Vader calls him.

>>50722430
This. I haven't even read that comic, other than caps of that particular panel, but as soon as that sabre lit up....

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>>50724293
Yeah, its bound to be a very bitchy relationship

>>50724068
I really wanted it to be Mustafa, kinda bummed they didn't explicitly say it, but hey, at least I was right.

>>50721194
I didn't know immortan Joe was in Rogue One.

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>>50724660
Maybe he's the next Mandalore.

>>50724293
> NOOOOOOOO
> "heh heh"
> "Hey Vader"
> "Nah just remembering something funny"

>>50724771
That scene in ESB is one that looking back, I'm surprised didn't go:

>"I believe him to be the son of Anakin Skywalker"
>"I thought you said he died in childbirth?"
>"Did I? I've told so many lies over the years it get's hard to keep them all straight" (smugface entire time he says this)

>>50722773
Not really, they're a mile long and most SW ships have guns in batteries.

>>50722383
Armada has few players because it's a shitty game and FFG abandoned any sense of objectivity and balance since they introduced the MC30c and continue to add impotent tools for the Empire while instantly hard countering them with 5 point rebel upgrades (ala Phoenix home).

Not even their fault though, Rebel players have been whining the game into it's grave for over a year and a half.

>>50723233
You really felt the pain of giving the order to ram another vessel, too. You don't take that decision lightly - even if it saves the Rebellion, your ship is fucked. And probably you with it.

>>50723617
>chipper
>Stops mid-step to Force choke a guy for being too happy about a shitty situation.

>>50723938
Yes, Mustafar, confirmed by Pablo Hidalgo.

>>50724197
It's not a possibility, this is what is in the R1 Visual Guide.

>>50724127

I'm not going to lie, I'd probably just torch the place for the insurance policy I bought the week before at that point. Or build my own bitching citadel somewhere nice and green with tropical beaches.

>>50726026
>Implying Vader's citadels aren't all in fucking he'll holes

Even in Jedy Academy his former place was on a planet under fucking acid rains.

>>50726072

To be fair, its not exactly like he can go sunbathe or anything. And I'm sure 24/7 acid rain cuts down on the expenses to maintain a proper perimeter.

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>>50726115
You'd think that countering acid rain would be one of the things the Rebellion teaches in basic training.

>>50726267

But its not just any acid rain, its DARK SIDE Acid Rain. Or something. Plus you can't tell me the 501st doesn't have at least a battalion stationed onsite at Vjun.

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>>50726324
Given the 501st's performance at Endor, the solution would probably be as simple as a few caustic remarks. They certainly don't get buffer with age and the precipitate shouldn't be too much trouble.

>>50726454
Caaaaaarlos...

>>50719830
I feel ya brother.

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What's the point of having a starfighter solely for atmospheric usage? Even Sienar isn't drug-addled enough to make something like this.

Design wise its just half a TIE Interceptor. It's okay, does its job.

>>50726747
Yeah, when TIE fighters are shown being able to fly in atmosphere, this just seems like they made a new ship for the movie just for the sake of making a new ship
Granted that's par the course for Sienar

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>>50723437

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>>50726747
>Even Sienar isn't drug-addled enough to make
No.

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>>50726774

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Anyone here that played the destiny CCG?
I thought about pickin git up . It looks like they made it for more for children, can anyone confirm ? Is it too simplistic? Is it good?

>>50726747
It has a bomb port! I guessed something as such when it was first shown but figured I was wrong when FFG did not give it a bomb slot for X-wing.

>>50726794
Gameplay is fine but they adopted the booster pack mentality and ran with it. You get a dice with a rare hero but in order to use them to their full potential you'd need to get lucky and get them again to get more dice...

>>50726768
TIE Fighter designed for recon when?

>>50726800
I expect a later re-release with a title card called "TIE SK gain a bomb slot".

>>50726831
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/rc_starfighter
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/sr_starfighter
It's been done,

>>50726839
Has Raith Seiner already created every possible starfighter?

Or will his drug addled mind always be there to create more?

>>50726747
>>50726768
TIEs CAN fly in atmosphere but not well, and they're not armed all that great for ground support.

>>50726874
How about an interceptor with a SLAM-drive?

>>50727288
What about a TIE tank, but made for space instead of the ground?

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>>50727344
A TIE Mauler/Crawler with wings? Or are you referring to one of these things?

http://is.4chan.org/co/1481912022222.png

Yavin Base droid cameo spoiler.

>>50726747
>crew slot
>bomb slot
>faster than interceptor in atmosphere

FFG gives us
Speed 3 maximum and bagel upgrade options

Can they at least pretend to care about Canon or the Empire?

>>50727444
FFG's ran by EU enthusiasts. If there wasn't money to be made, they wouldn't even be making Nu-Canon waves.

>>50727444
All those things would increase the point cost and quite frankly the Striker is already an interesting fighter.

>>50727480
Exactly 2 pilots will see play, par the course.

If they were gonna strip it down they could have at least made the generics 15/16 points and blacks wouldn't be 20 a pop.
If you want a tie fighter then price it as aggressively as a tie fighter.

>>50727444
>Speed 3 maximum
To be fair, Adaptive Ailerons.

>>50727558
To be fair, faster than a boosting interceptor.

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Anyone else actually miss the old Empire that hated on women and possibly fags? It had actual ideology behind it, and a basis. Now its just generic bad guys, but I understand we can't have any of the Legends Empire on the big screen because SJW fags would throw a fit, but they wouldn't be alone because alt-right fags would also throw a fit that their race is being represented as evil or whatever.

Because of identity politics, we can't ever have a serious exploration into ideological pursuits of nations, political parties etc. I'm really starting to miss the Bush references now, George.

>>50727609
Empire never hated women, they just climbed slower than males because it's a professional military and few women have the stomach or humility to do it or have to freeze their careers because of children.

>>50727361
TIE Mauler/Crawler with wings, obviously.

>>50727661
In Legends canon, the Empire was said to be HuMan-centric. Is in, both Human centered and Male centered.

>>50726794
Walked into my store to a motherfucker buying everything they had in stock for destiny so I'm just hoping its good for his sake.

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>>50727662
>TIE Mauler with wings
I got you covered, anon. Behold, a guided missile shaped like a TIE.

>>50725973

Cool, I'm picking up my copy at the end of my shift.

>>50726026
>tropical beaches

But those would have sand on them.

>>50727661
>have to freeze their careers because of children

I wonder how if Sheev has a health plan or provides maternity leave?

>>50727538
It has 3 attack dice. That puts it on par with every other 3 native attack die ship in the game (and the Mangler Scyk). 17 pts base is a steal considering it is the cheapest 3 die ship in the game now. Any cheaper, and it'd be way underpriced. Now granted being cheap 3 die attack didn't help the original holder of that title, the PS 1 Interceptor. But even so, neither of those can comfortably go for less points without unbalancing the higher costed 2 die attack ships.

As far as 20pt Black Strikers go, that was to be expected. There is not a 3-die generic in the game that can take an EPT at less than 20pts. 20pts keeps the crackshot-generic spam down to 4 ships at most, which is fine. The dial is meh, but ailerons do a lot to speed the thing up considerably. And at least 3 pilots will see somewhat regular use.

In short, quit your bitching. Because you sound like someone who is oblivious to the balancing mechanics of the game.

>>50727710

The last pregnant woman he tried to 'help' got strangled, so...

>>50727710
Possibly for the sake of keeping the military in smooth operation, but he thrives on making people miserable so who knows.

>>50727783
Naisu.

>>50727609
I would disagree, the whole woman-hating think always felt tacked-on by WEG just to make them more evil for no real reason.

>>50727585
And the boosting is a mandatory "free" action before maneuver.

>>50726923
>but not well

Never really seen any hint that they have any problems whatsoever in atmosphere, honestly. Though you're right about them not being good CAS craft.

>>50727793
How about ideology? Is it so wrong to think that there might be an ultra-conservative society even in space?

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>>50725900
I liked that the crew was clearly scared going in to ram the star destroyer, it really drove home that they knew the risk.

hell all the scenes with rebels in the second half of the movie were great. Even when they had the upper hand, you could tell they knew it could change at any second. That and the way they all started just dropping as it reached the final moments. Having that realization of "holy shit, it's really true, not one of them is going to survive it" was amazing and really gave weight to all the sacrifices

and then right as the heroic music plays and the rebels start to jump out Vader shows up and I'm just like

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>>50727789
>Possibly for the sake of keeping the military in smooth operation, but he thrives on making people miserable so who knows.
He'd probably allow maternity leave and similar things, but in such a way that it still makes you miserable. So stuff like pic related along with excessive paperwork, queues, slideshows, etc.

>>50727796
I'm saying they should have kept the tie fighter dial and kept alierons if they aren't gonna give it a boost and they want to keep it accurate.

Or they could have kept the dial they gave them and still had a 2 point discount if you're worried about balance.

>>50727826
>Never really seen any hint that they have any problems whatsoever in atmosphere, honestly.
We only rarely see them in atmosphere in canon.

In Legends the X-Wing books made a huge point of its problems, and Pablo brought that back by mentioning the First Order TIEs use particle shields to negate their aerodynamic problems.

>>50727852
Or probably just temporary sterilization (With something like a 5% chance of being permanent because ~misery~)

>>50727828
But the empire in general doesn't act ultra-conservative, they're more just authoritarian militarists, not really conservatives

>>50723628

Yes they do, flechette torps

>>50727868
Which kind of evil is more in-character for Palps, I wonder? Sterilizing a woman or using her child as extortion/blackmail/conscription fodder for giggles?

>>50727853
The problem with that is if it had a Toe Fighter dial AND ailerons, it would have been stupidly fast. In this way, it is faster than an Interceptor with the ailerons, but a bit less controllable. And having a boost before your maneuver is fucking awesome. Anyone who's flown a Starviper woth Advanced Sensors (or Brobot with Advanced Sensors), knows how much that boost before a Sloop will completely change everything about the ship's positioning.

>>50727852
They'd probably also do shit like make it so that if you divorce a service member you get to keep their BAH, while also making it so that the barracks are extremely terrible, so as to keep a constant stream of shitty marrages, jody-ing and divorce going, and making everyone sit through a safety standdown EVERY TIME somebody in that unit gets divorced. Just to fuck with them

>>50727945
>and making everyone sit through a safety standdown EVERY TIME somebody in that unit gets divorced.
Delete this post before a SNCO sees it and gets ideas

>>50727945
>>50727997
Saftey Standdown?

Also I don;'t think palpatine shit on the military THAT bad. Assuming BAH is a good thing not a bad one.

>>50727868
>We only rarely see them in atmosphere in canon.

Yeah but every time you do see them there, there's nothing that overtly suggests they don't perform exactly the same as they do in space.

I wonder if I should include Death Troopers in my Remnant game, it's MOSTLY Legends based but has room for stuff like them...

>>50728423
Outside of vidya that don't model their failings for balance reasons how many times do we see them doing complicated stuff in atmosphere?

I barely recall them doing much in Rebels. And they did seem to crash a lot in Rogue One's canyon area.

>>50727894
Probably the latter, followed up by the former.

>>50728531
>And they did seem to crash a lot in Rogue One's canyon area.

They crashed a lot in the asteroid thicket in ESB, too.

>>50728583
>asteroid thicket
That's a bit of an understatement...

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>>50727945
>>50727997

>>50728583
Yeah it's not exactly conclusive, even some of the X-Wings crashed, it's a pretty nasty place to fly, especially in that weather.

>>50727609
>Head of Imperial Intelligence is a woman
>Head of Imperial R&D and Tarkin's protégé is a woman
>Most important Emperor's Hand is a woman
What?

>>50728956
>>Head of Imperial Intelligence is a woman
Cause she's the previous head's daughter.

>>Head of Imperial R&D and Tarkin's protégé is a woman
Literally fucked her way to Admiral rank. She was a simple Lieutenant but Tarkin thought she was good in bed and promoted her.

>>>Most important Emperor's Hand is a woman
Just cause COMPNOR has their non-HuMan policy doesn't mean Sheev follows it. Sheev himself doesn't care.

>>50729014
Daala and Isard both become heads of the Empire after sheev's death.

>>50727609
I thought the Empire hated Aliens, based on Sheev's ideology of human supremacy, no doubt influenced by the tutelage of Darth Plagueis. While most of Plagueis' history has been relegated to "legends" he stated that from his observations humans had a strong competitive edge over most other species and he believed that under the right leader (read himself) they'd be in charge of pretty much everything. As it turned out he didn't even have to do anything because humans end up being in charge of most everything anyways. Humans lead the Empire, the Republic, the Rebellion, they have multiple representatives on the Jedi Council, the new Jedi Order is founded by Luke et cetra.

>>50729232
>As it turned out he didn't even have to do anything because humans end up being in charge of most everything anyways.
Alien costumes are expensive and uncomfortable, yo.

>>50729232
To be fair, Tarkin's Homeworld and a number of other Coreward Planets banded together under Sheev to push the Humancentric thing. They'd been trying that under the Republic too and probably would have succeeded if Tarkin's Uncle(?) hadn't died in the Stark Hyperspace War.

>>50727845
I know, right? I need to see it again.

>>50727894
I'd say the latter. Bonus points if any offspring are indoctrinated and used as a guard dog in case the parent tries to make a break for it anyway.

>>50728531
Include Death Troopers. You can't go wrong, they're fucking incredible.

>>50728956
Legends.

Instead, we now have ISB Commander Femme Fatale Alecia Beck and Admiral Rae Sloan.

And thank goodness we don't have Mara Sue anymore.

>>50729431
>Legends

Where do you think you are?

Also, the main reason people think Mara is a Sue is because she got with Luke. Her story throughout the Thrawn Trilogy is quite interesting.

>>50728899
>it's a pretty nasty place to fly

So was the canyon. Point is, TIEs crashing a lot isn't really conclusive either.

>>50729612
The books fucking say it, Legends and Canon.

>>50729596

>Because she got with Luke

Well who should it have been, the latest vague love interest introduced in this book series?

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>>50729431

>>50729705
Mara predates all of them. As far as I'm concerned, she was a fine choice. I just wish their whole Courtship was a bit more fleshed out.

Although, I find the idea of Luke being a playboy to be pretty hilarious. It's even better if he does it unintentionally.

I hope that with Death Troopers we're just a step away from Dark Troopers

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>>50729789
>I just wish their whole Courtship was a bit more fleshed out.
I like to headcanon that Luke courting Mara was a mix of the YOU WILL KILL LUKE SKYWALKER pasta and a season of Black Lagoon.

>>50729817
Dark Troopers are already canon. They were brought back by that one Clash of Clans knockoff mobile game.

>>50729835
>YOU WILL KILL LUKE SKYWALKER pasta

Dammit, you just reminded me I'm supposed to be writing smut.

>>50729817
>>50729835
Yeah, but they were just Purge Troopers from TFU stealing the name from the Dark Trooper Phase 2. I want the real deal!

>>50719457
>Teräs Käsi
Sounds like a cheese-based, Finnish martial art.

>>50729893
That you D.?

>>50729973
It may as well be.

>>50729979
Who's D? I just wrote that one thing about Tailheads and Questanon a while ago and keep forgetting to write the next part.

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>>50729973
oh really

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>>50729893
And you just reminded me that I'm supposed to be writing, too. Damn.

>>50729973
It was supposed to sound like "Iron hand/Fist" in Finnish. Since it's apparently a port of Tekken?

>>50729596
Mara Jade hits all the typical Mary Sue points:

Tragic and conflicted backstory? Check:
>Raised to be a super special assassin, working for the Emperor.

Unnaturally special or has gratuitous connections to powerful people? Check:
>Was Emperor's Hand, worked directly with Palpatine. Was his favorite.

Is the best at everything she does? Check:
>Was the best Emperor's Hand. Left and completely changed tracks to become a smuggler. Quickly rose the ranks to be Talon Karrde's best smuggler - literally in a few months. Later, a Jedi. Became a Jedi Master.

Is attractive, and has her beauty mentioned in the story? Check.
>Duh.

Is written solely to have a love arc with another protagonist? Check.
>She was given orders to kill Luke, but falls in love with him. D'aww.

And then there's this quote:
"Mara once told this one that all it took to lift the Emperor'z veil from her eyes was a long walk in the forest with this man. That after she had come to know Luke Skywalker, it was easy to step into the light."
―Saba Sebatyne

Disgusting.

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>>50730017
I just want to sit here and play Pokemon dammit.

>>50730045
>Unnaturally special or has gratuitous connections to powerful people? Check:
>>Was Emperor's Hand, worked directly with Palpatine. Was his favorite.
Was led to believe she was his favorite and only Hand. (other than the two literally attached to him.)

And she fell for it, the fool. Took years after he died to learn for certain there was more than one, even when Thrawn mentioned them offhandedly she dismissed it.

>>50729973
>>50730038
Teräs Käsi literally means "Iron Hand" in finnish.

Anyone got a PDF of the visual dictionary

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>>50730052
I know that feel, bruh. Guilty Gear keeps calling to me.

>>50730045
>All canon protagonists want her, or she's in a relationshio with all of them
Nope

>Has unnatural hair/eyes, or some other weird feature (like rainbow hair)
Nope.

>Has magic, or some other special power not native to the setting
Nope

>Is a writer self-insert
Created by Timothy Zahn. Hmm... he could be closet trans.

>Is a space marine
Nope, she didn't check out on that one.

>>50729596
tl note: Mary Sue means "Character I don't like"

>>50730045
>Tragic and conflicted backstory? Check:
>Raised to be a super special assassin, working for the Emperor.

Not that tragic or conflicted seeing as she was perfectly fine with being the Emperor's Hand.

>Unnaturally special or has gratuitous connections to powerful people? Check:
>Was Emperor's Hand, worked directly with Palpatine. Was his favorite.

Force Sensitive. Was led to believe she was his favorite.

>Is the best at everything she does? Check:
>Was the best Emperor's Hand.

Baseless claim.

>Left and completely changed tracks to become a smuggler. Quickly rose the ranks to be Talon Karrde's best smuggler - literally in a few months.

Talon Karrde's crew was tiny and she was his best operative because of her training.

>Later, a Jedi. Became a Jedi Master.

Her becoming a Jedi isn't a surprise. And, lets be honest, the standards for becoming a Master in the NJO are incredibly lax. Kyp "Killcount in the Billions" Durron is a Jedi Master after all.

>Is attractive, and has her beauty mentioned in the story? Check.

Not indicative of Sue status.

>Is written solely to have a love arc with another protagonist? Check.

BLATANT Falsehood. She never has any sort of Romantic Interaction with Luke until the Hand of Thrawn series, which was written years after the Thrawn Trilogy.

>Quote

Hyperbole. She constantly needles Luke through the Thrawn Trilogy as his calm and kind manner pisses her off immensely.

Not only is your definition of Mary Sue wrong, your points are bad. AT WORST, Mara Jade is a special snowflake in a setting full of special snowflakes.

>>50730359
No, it means a character that fans unanimously don't like, who bends the entire story around their presence, is perfect in everyway, always gets the guy(s) or girl(s), seemingly infallible, often has special powers that don't belong in the setting (magic in Star Wars, or is "Force Null"), is a write self-insert, and/or is a space marine.

Anyone got anything from Friends Like These? Is it good?

>>50730407
tl;dr; Character I don't like, got it.

>>50730407
Ysalamiri are a thing.

Admittedly, they're actually using the Force to blot out other Force Effects with what's essentially a big pressure field in the Force.

Yuuzhan Vong are stupid.

>>50727845

I love that R1 was pretty much just a clean sweep across the board and that every single original character it introduced died. Seriously, if a character wasn't in the OT they were a walking corpse

>Jyn dies
>Cassian dies
>K-2SO dies
>Bodhi dies
>Baze and Chirrut die
>Saw dies
>Krennic gets hit by the fucking Death Star beam
>Jyn's mom dies
>Galen dies
>all if Galen's scientist buddies die
>that one rebel informant dies
>everyone in Jedha City dies
>including, presumably, the little girl Jyn previously saved
>all of Blue Squadron die
>that fat fuck Red Five dies
>Mon Cal Churchill and his whole crew (presumably) dies
>every Imperial in a Star Destroyer or the Shield Gate dies
>every rebel AND imperial on Scarrif dies

I think the only original characters who made it through the movie are Saw's insurgents who manage to fly away in the Z-95s and those Alliance Council pussies.

>>50730210
Worst part is that I've finally acquired a way to play Gen VI (and VII, I guess) for free. Had to buy a 2DS and go through a long and arduous process to hack it, but it was well worth it. All DS games are at my fingertips.

>>50730483
You forgot Vader's old attendant or whatever he was.

>>50730447
>I
No. It takes a massive uprising in the fanbase. As if a thousand voices cry out in pain. See ref. Wesley Crusher.

>>50730600
That's not how people use it now, anon.

>>50730649
>That's not how /tg/ abuses the term now, anon.

FTFY

>>50730679
It's not just /tg/, it's the same everywhere on the internet.

I swear, any time I blink, when I open my eyes again the definition of Mary Sue has changed.

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>>50730746
>We're on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan
>Are... are you serious right now? Bitch, just 30 minutes ago, I literally watched this ship detach from a rebel battle frigate actively attacking an Imperial Installation

>>50730823
I mean, that's pretty much what he said. Only more Vader-y.

>>50730808
Yeah, the term became a buzzword that people (mostly here) began to throw around at everything. Since then, it's lost it's value and the ever-increasingly vague definition can be argued to include any fictional character ever.

>>50730483
They were z-95s? I thought they were just regular X wings painted cool but if so even better

Related to rogue 1 but not really a spoiler: is the clone wars stuff with Saw worth a watch? Knowing more of his backstory sounds cool but I've always been pretty meh about TCW

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>>50730844
>YOU ARE PART OF THE REBEL ALLIANCE AND A TRAITOR. TAKE HER AWAY!

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>>50730045
Mara Jade is possibly the worst "major" character in Star Wars. Rey is terrible. Finn was awful. JarJar was cancer. The rogue One chick was shit. However, all of these have been criticized by at least some large portion of fans, even if it isn't always the majority.

Mara Jade is the one shitty character that so many fans seem to love, and they seem to love her for absolutely no reason. She's a character that reads as if she was written by an angry 12 year old girl who had boys tell her girls couldn't like Star Wars.

>"Oh yeah? I'll show them! This girl is named Mara Jade, and she's super tough. Super cool. She's a super badass assassin and the Emperor's strongest servant. She's beautiful and smart and courageous and amazing at everything and is funny and always knows what to do. In fact even that STUPID SHIT BOY LUKE falls in love with her because she's absolutely amazing at everything ever.
>TAKE THAT BOYS. GIRL POWER.

I have no problem with female characters, but Mara Jade is made to be a walking feminist superhero whose existence makes no sense and is justified only because she's a girl and feminism is "good" or something.

>>50730451
AND THE MANDALORIANS WEAPONIZED THEM

>>50731062
>All this projecting

Holy shit man it's a fictional character. Did Anita Sarkeesian rape you or something

>>50730213
She has vibrant red hair, that nobody else has.

>>50731124
Are you saying she's the only ginger in Star Wars?

>>50731062
>Finn was awful
I will fight you.

>>50731124
Lando confirmed for Gray Sue.

>>50730808
I still don't understand whether a main character can be Mary Sue, or it has to be a new character in a previously established universe

>>50731108
The only characters who have ever actively pissed me off in Star Wars are:
>JarJar
>Prequel Anakin
>Solo kids
>Mara Jade

She's a character I legitimately hate.

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>>50731231
>hatin' on the Solo kids
What, you don't like bad puns, mechanic chicks and mad puzzle solvin' skillz?

>>50730577

I forgot about him. Which is interesting because whatever he was he actually left quite an impression on me.

>>50730991

You're right; the visual guide says they're X-Wings. I thought they were Headhunters because the one that was crashed in Jedha City looked like it only had two turbines.

Honestly though, I was they had been Z-95s. Saw's group is supposed to be fringe and janky even by rebel standards so having X-Wings doesn't really fit.

>>50731315

Maybe he still has a few left over from when he split off from the rebels. Or hell, maybe he just jumped a mainstream rebel base and stole them.

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Yo Imperials, I heard you liked starships so I put a starship in your starship in your starship.

>>50731188
strictly speaking a mary sue is a term that applies to some fan fiction characters.

>>50731231
And you are certainly entitled to have that opinion. You don't speak for everyone else, though.

>>50731416
I wasn't trying to. I admitted I'm in the vast minority on hating Mara.

>>50731374
Mary Sue was coined in the 70s when a woman wrote a joke character for a Star Trek fanfiction contest named "Mary Sue". She was extremely good at everything, beautiful, EVERYONE wanted to get with her, and she sacrificed herself in the end to become literally the greatest hero in history.

Now the term mary sue applies to similar characters, gag or otherwise.

>>50731062
>She's a character that reads as if she was written by an angry 12 year old girl who had boys tell her girls couldn't like Star Wars.
Except she wasn't. She was written by Timothy Zahn.

>>50731628
It should be noted that the original "Mary Sue" written for that Trek fanfiction was a satire of the tendency for fanfiction writers to make obnoxiously perfect characters like that.

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>tfw "Black Squadron" would be the perfect name for the Y-Wing group in your new story, fitting with Grey Squadron A-Wings and Wight Squadron T-70s
>tfw it's already a canon name for Poe Dameron's squadron

Why even live.

>>50731815
>Use Legends instead
>Set during different time period
>Go with the flight sims' explanation of temporary color callsigns that change every mission
Plenty of reasonable workarounds. Vader had first dibs on the name "Black Squadron" anyway.

>>50731815
No it's not, Anon. You can still use Black squadron.

Poe Dameron isn't technically part of a squadron, he's simply the leader of both Red and Blue squadrons for the Resistance. Blue is mostly the defense squadron, red is mostly the recon and attack squadron. Both squadrons get sent out to fight in the last part of TFA. Poe leads both squadrons, so he's "Black One".

>Different time period

Yeah problem is the Fanfic is set 5 years before TFA, and it's about the Resistance fighting the First Order. Explaining that they're temporary callsigns might be best.

>>50731869
Nah, in the Poe Dameron comic he leads BS.

>>50726747
Sienar is like the inverse of Lockheed-Martin, you pay them like half of what you expect for a shitty plane, and they produce five variants of a decent plane for you in half the time you expected it to take.

>>50731889
So do it fucking anyways! Or make White Squadron. I don't think we've seen that one, yet.

>>50731955
White Squadron is the companion X-Wings. But yeah I'll do it anyway, the whole joke is that the bomber pilots there get into rivalries with X and A-Wing fighter jocks all the time. It'd be just like thme to use the same callsign as an ace fighter squadron.

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>>50731897
>you pay them like half of what you expect for a shitty plane, and they produce five variants of a decent plane for you in half the time you expected it to take.

>>50731815

It's a big galaxy. It's not like someone from starfighter command is going to come kick your door down and disappear you if you name your squadron Panther Squadron if there's already one with the 19th fleet.

>>50731062
Exactly.

>>50731108
Or, you know, fuck off. I'm not even that guy, but you didn't benefit from taking an Intro to Psychology class. You're actually worse off for trying.

>>50731685
That doesn't make it better. It just means he's bad at characterization.

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>>50731062
>>50732492

Obvious bait. Please retire.

My group's never played a star wars game before, but we've been considering it for ages now. Of the non weird dice systems, what are the pros and cons of each?

>>50732543
In your limited opinion.

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>>50732598

There are only three systems.

West End Games D6, which is dated, but has a nice narative based system. If you don't mind how dated it is, its fantastic.

Star Wars d20 and Saga d20
Literally just D&D 3.5 with a star wars skin, while Saga is a weird proto 4th edition. Terrible, but its well fleshed out, and the rules are balanced. Saga is considerably better, so if you have to play one of the two, chose Saga

FFG
Has weird dice. Despite that, its still the best star wars systems that exists.

Ranking
>FFG
>WEG
>Saga
>shit
>aids
>ball cancer
>tequila mixed with pickle brine
>Star Wars d20

>>50732558
Bait? He's just throwing the whole fucking rod and tackle in the water!

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>>50732558
Calling an opinion "obvious bait" is pretty baity.

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Sad news: There is no Dornean Gunship anything in the Ultimate Visual Guide. Nor is there anything about the Partisan in the green. Scout Trooper helmet also does not appear.

However, have some IT AIN'T SHEEV in the meantime.

>>50732857

I laughed when the chubby black trooper went to run for the switch and immediately ate it.

>>50732857
I look forward to someone editing all of the U-Wing scenes to have Fortunate Son blaring over everything else.

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>>50732902
Poor guy, then again it's better than getting hit by the Deathstar Tidal Wave.

>>50732914
Sadly the inside out doorgunner shots are so short.

>>50732632
In my unlimited opinion.

>>50724660
Well he was a big guy

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I fucking love this helmet, Shoretrooper and Death trooper split a great second place.

>>50732857

Is there anything about the Partisan X-wings and what there deal is?

>>50733006
Death Trooper uber race

Vader's absolute beatdown at the end puts his fights with Luke in a whole new perspective, making it obvious just how much he was toying with Luke and just how badly Vader outclassed him.

I fucking love it.