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>>50652695

The problem with that concept is it makes it increasingly tough for a new player to join your play group. They start out with the basic rules and then they want to come play at your store and now need to learn all your house rules.

xth for Imperial Agents is disappointing aside from finally having printed rules for digital only codexes.

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>>50652727
legit kek'd, but then got sad cause its true

Why do people like AdMech? They're literally the lamest army in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.

>>50652699
I was thinking a Storm Bolter and Extra armor instead of a Heavy Flamer, since that way if he ever gets penned it'd be more likely for him to remain mobile with a Crew Shaken, and since you can't snapfire templates, he'd at least have 2 BS1 shots.

Though, the Heavy Flamer does seem useful in it's own way though.

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Age of 40k

Xth for don't be a dick, be flexible in your treatment of the rules, fun fluffy not WAAC lists and always allow someone to bring stuff like vect or saint celestine.
Oh and loyalist marines best armies, heretics, xenos and T3 babbies are all losers.

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SoB booty.

Nothing of value was lost with the "new" SoB codex. Move along. Maybe the Psybolts because those where fun.

Maybe now SoB can actually use Repentias with a god damn Valkery. Raining bondage nuns with massive chainswords onto the enemies of the Emperor.

I see a fun codex for those who wanted to have SoB and/or Inquisition.

>>50652744
>They start out with the basic rules and then they want to come play at your store and now need to learn all your house rules.
So then you ease them into it? It's like learning to swim, have to learn to float before anything else.

With the Traitor Legions out, how would you build a WAAC list out of them for 1850 pts?

>>50652734
You people are the worst.

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>>50652734
pfft

>>50652770
Oh look, he posted it again.

>>50652804

At the end of the day the only thing I've ever seen house rules and group flexible rules do is run off new players. I travel a lot for my job so I go to a ton of stores across the US so I've seen multiple types of play and ideas and I've rarely seen the 'house rules' thing work out very well.

As a new player the last thing I want to do is to have to learn all the rules for 40k, then learn how my store plays 40k and heaven forbid I don't agree with the store's house rules - now I'm double fucked.

>>50652771
>I was thinking a Storm Bolter and Extra armor instead of a Heavy Flamer, since that way if he ever gets penned it'd be more likely for him to remain mobile with a Crew Shaken, and since you can't snapfire templates, he'd at least have 2 BS1 shots.
I've never been a big user of extra armor, so I can't really comment on its usefulness. Also, while you can snapfire templates for overwatch you have wall of death, which can more than make up for it. I guess if you get penned then that may become and issue, but I'll be honest and say I have never had a game where my venerable dread survives to my next turn if he gets penned

>>50652744
I can't speak for everyone, but we keep the core rules in place and just let people use agreed on fandex or stat adjustments. To a new player its no different because everyone's books are new to them anyway.

>>50652809

I run Death Guard - a Warband for solid ObSec and then season with auxiliary of choice (I like Hell Talons)

>>50652782
But how does Initiative work in this?

>>50652755

25 points for a roll on strategic traits seems pretty ok.

double inq detachment 50 points for two inquisitors for two rolls on strategic, taking creed for two more rolls. possible +3 to seize, -3 to opponent reserve, or making a good chunk of your army infiltrate. Being able to take a bunch of primaris psykers is something i've wanted to do since they took away primaris being able to be your mandatory HQ for guard.

I'm glad for physical rules, and If the trait thing works like it sounds like I can live with the trade off for servo skulls.

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Quick!

What is the stereotypical player for each faction? Have you ever seen such players in real life?

>>50652795
You can't start in ally transports, anon

>>50652795
I'm just happy they are getting something. They could have treated them like Custodes and give them an honorable mention in the lore. If they are popular enough maybe they'll get a full codex release.

>>50652878
I play Imperial Fists and I am a stubborn bastard, for good or ill.

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>>50652795
>Literally armour plates instead of power armour
This artist draw bait.

>>50652876
I could bet with 95% certainty that the "warlord trait without being a warlord" will be restricted to the Inquisition table

>>50652845
>As a new player the last thing I want to do is to have to learn all the rules for 40k, then learn how my store plays 40k and heaven forbid I don't agree with the store's house rules - now I'm double fucked.
I can totally see that being an issue. What I would offer in response is even more flexibility. Someone's new or only dropping by to play once, like you on a trip? Just play regular 40k, its what it's there for: a universal rule set that can be used for pickup games. Houserules and the like should always be okayed first, and someone who wants to use them should always make clear that they're ok if the other player says no, it's not everyones thing.

And I just realized that sounded a lot like how one would describe some weird sex practice or something of the like

>>50652878
Stereotypical SM player is a 13 year old who just began

Tyranids players are girls

Eldar players are either gay and/or the artsy sensitive type

>>50652854
I suppose so, but Extra Armor means that if he does get penned and survives he won't become useless, since the Crew Stunned result renders him immobile and his weapons useless. And since he'd be immobile, melee attacks would hit him in his rear armor.

But then, you could also be right in that a HFlamer will do more.

I've read up on the rules and tactics a ton, but never actually played a game yet. Still waiting for my models to come.

Any suggestions on terrain? GW charges so much for their shit, but I need something besides random garbage I have in my house to use for terrain.

>>50652878
A good buddy of mine is an Eldar player and he's a pretty autistic waacfag who fields lots of wraiths and bikes, and fervently denies that there's anything wrong with his codex
Hes good people though

>>50652900
>Eldar players are either gay and/or the artsy sensitive type
The one in our group is an ex-marine. Kinda snobby, but certainly not gay or artsy.

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>>50652911
>A good buddy of mine is an Eldar player and he's a pretty autistic waacfag who fields lots of wraiths and bikes, and fervently denies that there's anything wrong with his codex

>Hes good people though

>>50652782
What about S and T?

Are you saying a guardsman can hit a Carnifax just as hard as it can hit Brimstone Horror?

>>50652911
So he'll be the guy selling his army on ebay to buy the next top tier army?

>>50652870
Same as aos, I choose a unit to attack with then you do, doesn't have to be the same combat. I think it adds some extra tactical choices.

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Do Tau make anime? Or would it be against the greater good?

How does Gets Hot work with Blast and Template weapons?

>>50652900
>Tyranids players are girls
WHY IS THIS ALWAYS ACTUALLY TRUE THO

>>50652782
I don't understand this shit, the stats on weapons and characters are somehow more complicated this way than they are in normal 40k.

Does anyone honestly believe the to hit and to wound charts are the hard part of the game?

>>50652931
Yes, that's part of the simplification of the rules. 720 close combat attacks from guardsmen to kill a land raider

>>50652955

You roll a separate dice when you fire and if its a 1 it gets hot.

>>50652956
Because the bugs are the cutest race in 40k

>>50652919
As far as you know. Who's to say he doesn't like a rent boy every now and then?

>>50652955
Read the rulebook. Roll a d6 for each shot, if it's a 1 that shot doesn't fire and it gets hot

>>50652943
Actually no, he really does seem to just be very attached to his bikes, and the army in general. But mostly the bikes

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>>50652878
Ork players are usually pretty chill.

>>50652900
...but I'm a man. A man with an empty wallet and over 41k pts worth of 'nids from second edition to present.

>>50652903
> I've read up on the rules and tactics a ton, but never actually played a game yet. Still waiting for my models to come.
What chapter are you playing? And what models did you get for your first list.

Speaking of that: tell me 40k general, what are you working on? Have you played any games recently? Plan on playing any soon?
And special question for this thread: what was the first list you ever ran for 40k?

>>50652983
Bikes are okay. Do they all have scatter lasers? He's a fag.

>>50652878
I'm a Chaos player and I'm a little edgelordy I guess. I'm also a metalhead so I have no issue with spikes and skulls all over everything.

>>50652955
>>50652981
And on top of that, any power that allows rerolls also allows you to reroll the gets hot die

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>>50652885
Same book now. Unless GW went out of their way to prevent this kind of silly ideas. It is possible.

Also it would be fucking strange otherwise

>>50652980
I play bugs and I'm not a chick
>women playing 40k

>>50652963
What's the weapons stats, what's the characters stats, what's the targets stats, how does that compare to two charts. Or read a line on a warscroll

>>50652949
That's sounds awful, who would play that?

>>50652885
You can if they're from the same faction but different detachments. If both Repentias and SoB are going to be in Imperial Agents than it could work.

>>50652809
The World Eaters "half my army charges you on turn one" is probably the most straight-forwardly WAAC. That list asks a question a lot of armies aren't going to be prepared to answer.

>>50652995
>First list
Hive Tyrant, 2 3-strong warrior broods, 1 6-strong genestealer broods, 2 8-strong termigaunt broods, 1 8-strong hormagaunt brood, 1 3-strong biovore brood.
It was at this moment that I realized how much I loved the potential of spore mines and only when Shield of Baal dropped was that love allowed to flourish as needed.

>>50653008
Me too but I'm definitely one of the most femme and pretty boys in my friend group and had at least one of my larger guy friends joke that if I was born a chick we would prob date

>>50652995
first list was melee nids in 7th
>horms, stealers w/ broodlord, 2 carnifex w/claws, 2 units warriors
abt 1500 points, played space yiffs, didnt go well

>>50652969
But that's not simpler, it's just stupid.

S and T are not complex in any way shape or form.

>>50652878
Speaking as a loyalist: we tend to be the most diverse due to the most players. That said, we often are a bit high and mighty, thinking of our army as the stars of the setting. Often times people often have the personality traits of their chapter.
Like I'm a blood ravens player, and I love learning and aquiring new knowledge, and have a bit of a problem with aquiring precious things, sometimes through less than moral methods. Not theft though, that would be unbecoming of a defense lawyer.

>>50652969
>just track the damage on your vehicles with half a dozen d10's guys, god!
Oh boy it's this faggot again.

>>50653051
Not complex, but it's extra steps. It's much faster to just have it all on the card.

>>50652878
KDK player, I'm a martial artist.

>>50653040
hmm thats not the case around me at all
what else do you play?

>>50652995
Space marines back in 5th edition. A captian, 2 ten man tacs in rhinos, assault termies, a dreadnought and some assault marines. Was 1000 points IIRC

>>50653010
You realize the charts are just a visual aid right? S v T is basic math.

I can understand getting rid of the WS chart because that thing is a mess, but S v T?

>>50653074
How so? How is it any faster than "hey what's the Toughness on that model I've never seen before?"

"5"

"Okay I Wound it on 5's with bolters, got it"

>>50652969
Not this shit again.

>>50653025
I am pretty sure SoB are still their own faction.

>>50653085
It's pretty much just nids, some GSC mixed in now, Skitarii and some vanilla Marines on the side I don't use often.

>>50653040
I used to play nids as young boy.

Now I am a woman. Enjoy your transition anon.

>>50652981
>>50652993
Oh, that's rather annoying.

>>50652995
Dark Angels and I ordered Betrayal at Calth for my tacticals.

This is my list currently. I've been told I need to change things, but I am quite fond of it though. I love Termis and Land Raiders, but I guess I should swap the LR for Black Knights and deepstrike the termis in, cut some points and get Rhinos?

1500 Fluffy Dark Angels

HQ
-Chaplain, 90
+Plasma Pistol, 15
Total, 105

-Terminator Librarian, 90
+ML2, 25
+Storm Bolter, 5
Total, 120

Troops
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)

Elites
-Venerable Dreadnought, 125
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Extra Armor, 10
Total, 140

-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 15
+Deathwing Company Standard, 20
+2 Chainfists, 10
Total, 255

Dedicated Transports
-Land Raider Redeemer, 240
+Multi melta, 10
Total, 250

Complete Total, 1500

>>50653112
Welp.

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>tfw THICC CERAMITE PLATING

Eagerly awaiting my leviathan to arrive in the mail, I don't really care how well it performs on tabletop since I just love the look of the model but I haven't come across any battlereps with one involved yet

How well do they perform in actuality? Both in melee and when toting their ranged weapons which seem equally as nasty

>>50652878

DE: Girls
Tyranids: Girls
Eldar: Girls or waacfags
SoB: autistic virgin males (highly ironic tbqh)

A 20-man Zerker squad with MoG makes 81 S5 attacks on turn one.

>b-but Berzerkers aren't worth taking anymore!

So I'm going from orks to guard for the first time ever and I'm scared by BS values higher than 3.

Can someone explain the sniper rule to me? If you roll a 6 to hit and then a 6 to wound, can you declare that the AP2 hit is also the precision hit, or do you need to roll the wounds for the precision hits seperate?

>>50653088
>>50653094

I was just trying to make a AOSified 40k because of all the rumors saying that 8th was going to be.

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>>50652878
I'm a Thousand Sons player. I generally stay within the realm of my home, reading a lot or trying to look for new information to fill my mind. I hold grudges for very, very long times until I can cause something to happen back to the other individual. I have a lot of dust in my house and go through dozens upon dozens of conflicting plans when trying to decide on how to do a certain thing.

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Damn TG did i just discover El Dorado ?

>Be me, flee my europoor country (yes this one)
>Emigrate to LOTR Land for a couple years
>Find a friendly non-neckbeard group of 12 gentlemen aged 23-60 playing 40k in south auckland in one old man -BIG- Basement
>Come with my 1000 pts DE army
>They play 40k 3 nights a week
>No one, N.O.O.N.E. is playing Space Marines Eldar or Tau.
>Mfw this game is perfectly balanced

im crying like a bitch right know...its like i have that urge to start finally playing Orks or Elysian..

>>50653074
That's not an extra step at all though.
If I am equal it's a 4+, 1 under it's a 5+ and more it's a 6+ (in very rare cases it can't hurt it, but you should already know those cases off the top of your head).

That's super basic anon, and allows for variation between targets.

>>50653106
hm, the othe nid players around me play eldar or tau
I play nids, mechanicum, ironhands, and soon nurgle csm (when I get money eventually)

GSC is a bit too expensive for me to buy into. and somehting about the playstyle is unappealing to me, eventhough I really like stealers

>>50653142
Yeah and they also cost how many points? What? You're telling me for a similar price I can just take an Imperial Knight against which your S5 won't mean jack or shit? Cool.

They still aren't good.

>>50653154
Goddamn, am I Jealous, anon.

I can't even find a nigga to play Kill Team with

>>50653125
It's hard to get them in melee because people know to avoid them, but if they get into melee they'll tear stuff up.
Watch out for the usual suspects like Grav and Haywire because those will be its bane. The dice gods will abandon you the moment you take your 4+ invul for granted.

>>50653125
>How well do they perform in actuality? Both in melee and when toting their ranged weapons which seem equally as nasty
Scary as fuck. Can't wait to see if thy get extra options in IA:FoC. The volkite and grav with claw is so fun to run in 30k
>>50653117
Looks pretty good.
I would definitely drop the LR, while I love them, for your first game it would be better to run tacs rhinos with DS termies.

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>>50652878
Im an ork player.
Im the cool guy.

>>50653165

Not the anon you're replying to but if you think the sole measure of a unit's efficiency is whether it can kill a Knight for the same number of points then you are actually, literally retarded

>>50653150
For starters they've specifically said they are not going to copy AoS that closely.

And second, AoS is a bad game and you should feel bad for doing this.

>>50653153
>that pic
Would a regular rubric marine have the capability of reading? That guy's got a staff so he's a sorcerer but the regular dust guys would be able to do it, would they?

>>50653155
Old System
Step one: Remember strength
Step Two: Remember or ask for toughness
Step Three: Remember how they compare

New System
Step one: Read what you need to roll.

>>50653099
The point is, Imperial Agents is a Codex. If units come from the same Codex they count as the same faction according to the rules.

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>>50653180
running mine in 40k so no volkite or grav unfortunately

Heard rumors that a blood angels variant is in the works that replaces the torso heavy flamers with assault cannons though I have to question making this thing a ranged platform considering how much it costs and the pretty short range on its weapons

I'm disappointed that the storm cannon is only 24" while other autocannons have much more range

>>50653112
>>50653121
Hey don't feel too bad. I played IG and Inquisition Witch Hunters and I transitioned as well. We come in all sorts of autistic sizes, you may just grow up to be a femme man.

>>50653188
Khorne, my point is that they aren't point-efficient in the slightest. Sure they have an assload of melee attacks. Sure they'll probably murder whatever they charge, but they are charging one unit a turn and a single Dread will stonewall them all game. They are not good in hordes, yet are too expensive to play MSU.

>>50652878
SM: Children
Orks: Cool people
SoB: Nu-males
Chaos: Metalheads
Eldar: Waac faggots
AdMech: Autists
IG: Cucks
DE: Teenagers
Nids: Women
Tau: Tryhards

>>50653165
By that logic an IK is terrible because it can be easily blasted off the table by its points worth of haywire.

>>50653205
>Step one: Remember strength
>Step Two: Remember or ask for toughness
>Step Three: Remember how they compare
If you can't remember the Strength for your own dudes and the EXTRAORDINARILY simply system for how they compare you might be too retarded to be playing this game. Tic Tac Toe might be more your speed.

>>50653165
You didn't think before making that post did you?

>>50653230
>IG: Cucks
I don't play guard but I gotta say all the people at my store who do are the most bro-tier and least cucked.

One of them also plays Orks though.

>>50653205
If you need to do steps 1 and 3 you're a literal child. Especially 3.

At most you will have to ask for T, but to be honest after a few games I already have that mesmerized for most units in the game.

That tiny amount of effort is absolutely not worth losing the core mechanic of how weapons deal damage.

>>50653200
>Would a regular rubric marine have the capability of reading?
No. Thats why Magnus got all mad at Ahriman for it.

>>50653224
>a single Dread will stonewall them all game
>what are fists and melta bombs
Do you even play the game?

>Orks players think they're "cool people"

>Shout WAAAAAGHHHHHH every turn
>Role play in every thread "I BET DA UMIEZ DID DIS ahahaha that's such a funny joke right guys right? I just came up with it!"
>Play stupid "comedic" NPC faction then get mad when their faction is hilariously bad (as per fluff)
>Autistic fascination with ancient memes (da red unz faster LOLOLO)
>Autistic fascination with shitty conversions

Orks players are the stereotypical fat manchildren who are associated with 40k as a whole. In reality it's almost solely Orks players who are that way.

>>50653206
Wrath of Magus has CSM and Daemons in it, they are absolutely not the same faction.

>>50653243
>>50653264
The fact that they are super easy steps does not mean they are not steps.

>>50653259
I dunno, Guard seems like the type of army for people with pathological altruism, at least fluff wise. If they play for the 'modern/WW2 warfare in spess' then I understand.

>>50652734
>>50652770
>>50653280
I gonna call samefag on this guy. Its the same shit posts every thread.

>>50653275
>fists
Only the champ can take one
>melta bombs
Only the champ can take one

Come on Anon this isn't hard. Oh yeah and he has CoC so he can be challengesniped anyway.

>>50653299
Yes let's just remove all steps from the game, then. Let's just pick up the models in our fists and smash them together until one of them breaks and the other one is victorious, then you don't have to remember what the result on the dice you need is or how many dice you need to roll for an attack.

>>50653280

I've never met an Ork player like that.

The ork player we have is proud that he has a high-score of 23 dead orks as a result of mob rule in a single game.

>>50653200
While the rubrics could probably look at text and information, I doubt they would be capable of understanding it

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>>50653180
>drop the LR
Sadness.

A shame about the new Rhino+Tac sets that are going to come out soon, since those'll likely be cheaper than me buying BaC and Rhinos separately.

I was also told that I should just drop pod the Dread and give him a HFlamer and make the Chaplain an Interrogator Chaplain, as well as remove all the Plasma Cannons and get more Anti Tank weapons.

If I make them deepstrike, then how does it work if I attach Independent Characters with them? Seperate rolls or one roll? I'm not particularly fond of drop pods and I've heard that they're rather annoying to build/paint.

>>50653309
>Come on Anon this isn't hard. Oh yeah and he has CoC so he can be challengesniped anyway
Retard, Dreads can't challenge. I'm curious though, how would you fix Berzerkers?

>>50653311
Reductio ad absurdum

>>50653303
Almost every Guard player I know is a huge WW2 fan or military fan in general. There are a few exceptions where trannies, girls or gays play IG because "men in uniform".

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>>50652878
The ork player who complains constantly about how bad his army is and why it isnt his fault for losing even though he barely knows the rules and is bad at 40k

>>50653342
>implying I was talking about the Dread when I mentioned challenges
Do you just pick one unit and expect it to do everything for you?

>how would you fix Berzerkers?
Make them cheaper and rebalance the game to make high-cost melee-focussed MEQ not garbage.

>>50653299
Ok

Step one: Remember to breath
Step two: Remember how to read
Step three: Look up Stat
Step 4: Oh shit, breath dude!
Step 5: Roll dice
Step 6: Recheck stat, remembering is hard lol!
Step 7: Breath again
Step 8: Look at dice
Step 9: Have to remember if 5 is more than 4...
Step 10: Ask Opponent "is 5 good enough for 4+"
Step 11: You forgot to breath, you died anon.

See? Your system has way, way too many steps in it.

>>50653303
I like Guard because of the Little Man Big Galaxy feel.

And the WWI feel.

There were no sponsons in WWII.

>>50653305

I'm only the anti-Orkfag one, the other two there are faggots. I've never posted that Ork post before so fuck you for lumping me in with zero effort shitposters. The only anti-Ork post I ever see is "I2 melee race" and that guy has been at it for months.

>>50653305
I wish it was secretly just one guy. I really do.

>>50653374
Asshole Reductio ad absurdum

>>50653344
Isn't that what your system is though?

QUESTION TIME;

What's worse?

>The idiots that honestly don't realize that SoB got gutted. Basically too stupid or too casual.

or

> "SoB are still fine because lol we can use fleshtearer drop pods xD, who cares about FAQ"

>>50653400
>What's worse?

You.

>>50653374
>breath

Are Tau space asians?

>>50653345
Makes sense. I do think they are cool army wise, but their extremely lame fluff turned me away.

>>50653358
>Do you just pick one unit and expect it to do everything for you?
Are you projecting? You're the one who used melee Dreads (a unit that was literally designed to counter Zerkers and their equivalents) as an argument for them being shit. Having a counter does not make a unit shit, though considering your earlier posts I doubt you have the mental capacity to realize it.

>Make them cheaper and rebalance the game to make high-cost melee-focussed MEQ not garbage.
Yup, you're fucking retarded.

>>50653400
>got gutted
You lost one special character, holy shit calm down.

>>50653338
>Sadness
I know anon. I know. But the moment you play a larger game or run a deathwing list you put that puppy back in there and run over all the fallen in your LR.
>I was also told that I should just drop pod the Dread and give him a HFlamer and make the Chaplain an Interrogator Chaplain, as well as remove all the Plasma Cannons and get more Anti Tank weapons.
If you have the points for it after dropping the land raider then the pod certainly sounds like a good idea. The chaplian is really just up to personal preference.
Having a tac squad with some melta or lascannons certianly isn't a bad idea, a good list should be well rounded.

>If I make them deepstrike, then how does it work if I attach Independent Characters with them? Seperate rolls or one roll?
One roll
>I'm not particularly fond of drop pods and I've heard that they're rather annoying to build/paint.
I've never had any trouble with them, but that is something that a lot of people hold.

May I also suggest getting a levithan dreadnought? Not for this list, but when you move up to 2000 points it will be able to draw fire away from a land raider, is an absolute beast if the enemy doesn't take it down, and is an absolutely amazing model.

GW seriously needs to make a plastic version of these things, they're fucking great.

R.I.P Sisters of Battle.

Did GW just pretend to be cool for a few months so they could slip this by the community ?

Love the fake hype that the wanksites are giving this release.

"YOU CAN'T STOP THESE 10 NEW SORIATAS RULES"

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>>50652980
>>50652956
No, the same reason is because Lizardmen/Seraphon are most popular in WHFB/AoS is because

1. They're cool 'pets'
2. They're able to be painted any colour they want and it's never 'wrong'

My sister, as I have said before here, thought Nids were 'meh' and Lizardmen were cool (only cause she likes dinosaurs). She played Nurgle CSM.

>>50653286
Wrath of Magnus is not a Codex

>>50653391
Ok, let's pretend your system is actually easier in some measurable way.

Would you honestly want to sacrifice the ability for guns to effect different targets differently (such as being harder to hurt a Carnifax with a lasgun than it is to hurt a guardsman) for the slight advantage in ease of use?

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Sisters of Silence more like Sisters of SUCK

>>50653427
>You're the one who used melee Dreads
Knights, actually, but if Dreads trigger you I can change to an Armored fucking Sentinel instead, it doesn't make a lick of difference.

My point is and always has been that if you're spending that many points on ONE (1) unit then it had better kill the shit out of what you run it at and a mass of S5 simply cannot do that.

>Yup, you're fucking retarded.
For seeing that the game is about cheap shooty and mobile MSU? Whatever you say fampai, take my (You) and have fun.

>>50653280
You sound really mad bro, chill out

>>50653432
We lost the only thing we had that was point efficient.

I understand why an Taudar fag like you can't see how that is very significant.

>>50653443
>She played Nurgle CSM.
she must be pretty fucked up tbhfam

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>Sissies of Battle get an update
>it's literally GW removing their most iconic character
B T F O
T
F
O

>A bolter round should hurt a grot the same as a heirophant bio-titan
>A marine should hit a keeper of secrets on the same roll as it hits an immobilized vehicle

That is fucking stupid

>>50653420
Actually quite the opposite. The Tau are what the U.S. military is going to look like in 100/200 years, which is the reason I love them so much

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>>50653443
But that's wrong though. Lizardmen are popular because it's fucking
AZTEC DINOSAURS MOTHER FUCKER
Trying to reduce their popularity to cool pets who can't be painted wrong reveals your rock fearing nature. Don't besmirch lizard men

Why is everyone freaking out? What happened?

>>50653432
You don't honestly see that it's more than that?

>mfw got into an argument with the faggot owner of spikeybits
>mfw I shat on him for writing a clickbait article about SoB not actually being updated
>mfw he gave me shit (he was a faggot about it)
>mfw the last few threads made my reply to him be less aggressive that I would have done because SoB are 99.9% unlikely to be updated by Feb

Wew. But, in my defence, the rumours for SoB update have been around for months, trying to get away with your clickbait by going "hur dur that information wasn't around when I wrote the article" is utter bollocks. Lady Anita has said SoB update for months.

>>50653444
>"DUrrrh Renegade & Heretics and Krieg are in the same codex so they can share the same transports lol xD"

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Some one tell me why I shouldnt start up a small TS list comprised of this?

I like the aesthetic (Necron here) but I've already got mindless robots but done better and only really like Ahriman and the sorcerers.

>>50653462
>implying I play Taudar
>not Tyranids who lost multiple special characters and a million options and fluffy special rules in the last few editions and are still worse off than SoB even after all our dataslates and supplements
Cry more you fat waifu-obsessed faggot.

>>50653462
I'll take what are Dominions for 50 points.
>an Taudar fag

>>50653476
SoB got squatted.

>>50653280
I have literally never done any of this ever and I have never meet any ork player out side of 4chan do this shit as well.

>>50653484
>thousand sons list
>no actual thousand sons

looks good to me

>>50653458
well timed

>>50653463
She is. I think she just liked the warband (she ran us as The Cleaved or The Purged or something like that, they were whitish I think).

>>50653474
Mate I have 15k+ of Lizardmen. They are liked by GIRLS because they're potential pets and are 'cute' and shit. That's what my sister said, anyway.

>>50653452
Yes, because I want x points to = x points.

I don't mean to be obtuse, but I can't seem to find the vanilla CSM dex in the rules megadrive. I see 3 CSM supplements and Chaos Daemons, but not vanilla CSM.

Does it have a weird name that I'm not aware of? Am I looking for the wrong thing?

>>50653510
>They are liked by GIRLS because they're potential pets and are 'cute' and shit
Ohhh. That clears things up.

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>>50653467
But the US is going to be owned by China by then, so he's still correct anon.

>>50653460
>Knights, actually, but if Dreads trigger you I can change to an Armored fucking Sentinel instead, it doesn't make a lick of difference.
Holy shit, your brain is so fucked up you can't even remember your own posts.

>My point is and always has been that if you're spending that many points on ONE (1) unit then it had better kill the shit out of what you run it at and a mass of S5 simply cannot do that.
What is a power fist.
What are melta bombs.
If you're gonna repeat the same argument over and over like a broken recorder then I'll reply you the same until your defective little brain finally processes the information. Just like we do with retarded children.

>For seeing that the game is about cheap shooty and mobile MSU
>what is KDK
>what is GSC
Still retarded.

>>50653476
SoB got merged into a meme codex called Imperial Agents. This is made worse by the fact that the rules are EXACTLY the same as they were in the digital edition, with the exception of a decurion and a formation.

Oh and they also lost a special character that was in 90% of the lists they used.

So, based on the fact the last few months have had "SoB update + plastics SOON!" has resulted in people going mental that it's likely not happening.

>>50653492
Tyranids are FUCKING awesome, you have Genestealer cult allies you fucking retarded.

Filtered.

>>50653496
Moron every single part of dominions are overcosted, do they perform well. Sure. But that doesn't make them cost less.

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ʞɔnS ɟo sɹǝʇsiS ǝʞil ǝɹoɯ ǝɔuǝliS ɟo sɹǝʇsiS

>>50653507
>>no actual thousand sons
There are TS in there, like I said I dont like the Rubrics my Necrons have already got that covered.

'Fuck You' sorcerers are way more interesting imo, but I have no idea how the sorcs/Ahriman play and want some input.

>>50653481
>>mfw I shat on him for writing a clickbait article about SoB not actually being updated
I am confused, it sounds like he was correct. They weren't actually updated, it's just a reprint with one character removed.

>>50653476
SoB faggots just got blown the fuck out.

>>50653521
I don't get it. What are Battle of Sisters?

Shouldn't it be Sisters of Battle? More like Sisters of Bullcrap? Or Sisters of Bollocks?

>>50653540
>Sister of Silence
Laugh at the newfag everyone.

>>50653474
>AZTEC DINOSAURS
HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
I don't play AOS, but even before it, I had decided that if our group started fantasy, I'd got Lizardmen.

>>50653538
>Tyranids are FUCKING awesome
SoBfags are actually deluded enough to believe this, incredible.

>Filtered.
Not only does this loser have to run off to their safe space but they need to announce it to the world like a martyr. I'm in awe.

>>50653497
Kind of the opposite really, they're locked in at their shitty 6th ed rules for at least another edition now.

>>50653553
Sissies of Faggots

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>>50653566
Yep. Lizardmen are fucking great. Really wish GW would add them to 40k

>>50653547
No no. His article was, before Imperial Agents was even announced, "Did GW troll SoB players?" and then started linking Facebook posts and crap as evidence.

I wrote something like "Baffling article. Rumours suggest Feburary 2017 update. I guess the new model doesn't count either?" and he replied, something along the lines of "Well the article was written before the release of the model or the Feb rumours".

Which is factually incorrect. They've been around for a few months.

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>>50653567
>Doesn't mention the fact that Tyranids have access to one of the most competative and fleshed out armies in the game; Genestealer cults.

>Avoids the argument fully

>Ad Hominem everywhere.

RICH.

>>50653577
This leads to the question, do Sisters of Battle players like to be fem dommed? And if they do, do they like to be dommed by shemales as well? Because if you look at the Sisters in official art, they're pretty tranny looking.

>>50653515
Literally what? That has nothing to do with anything we're talking about.

Have you maybe considered playing Risk instead? You don't have to worry about S v T in that game at all.

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>>50653527
>Holy shit, your brain is so fucked up you can't even remember your own posts.
See my original post >>50653165 and try again.

>What is a power fist.
>What are melta bombs.
Both Champ-only upgrades and not a viable contingency for a literally 400+ point unit you flaming homosexual. Would you take a single lascannon in a squad of guys with heavy bolters so that you had anti-armor? NO you wouldn't, you'd take it in a separate squad so the HBs can kill what they are good at killing while the LC pops the vehicles it's good at popping.

>what is KDK
Mid-tier
>what is GSC
Cheap MSU with unparalleled maneuverability that actually lets them get to melee. Protip: Zerkers don't have this.

Nice try, but you've proven yourself a little too flustered to continue this conversation. Why don't you go lie down?

>>50653589
But they are. They're called Grey Knights.

>>50653538
Sisters of Battle have Space Marine and Imperial Knight allies.

You should calm down, everything's obviously fine by your standard.

>>50653567
What did you expect from somebody cucked enough to play a female race in a power armor fantasy setting?

>>50653589
If not lizardmen completely, I would drop my DE in a heartbeat to play with plastic Exodites. FUCKING LAZER SPACE DINOSAUR RIDERS

>>50653605
>access to allies means the army isn't trash
Lemme guess, Dark Eldar are in great shape too because you can just run 150 points of them and 1600 pts of Craftworld cheese?

By that logic Sisters are the most powerful Codex in the game because you can just take Space Marine allies, so what are you bitching about?

>>50652744
Yeah and it kills the pick up game dead.

The whole good thing about wargaming and a unified rule set is that I can create an army with the expectation to play against a similar sized army and have a fair game. If every club has a million house rules that would be impossible.

Not to say the pick up game isn't already dead in 40k as it's pretty much impossible to keep track of all the million different unbound army combinations and formations which effectively give you hundreds of free points taking the idea of balance and a metagame out of the window.

>>50653607
>Implying they're not pretending to BE the Sisters themselves, raping, enslaving and ravaging innocent xeno girls and civilians to sate their lesbian conquering zeal.

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>>50653607
>SoB digital codex art is 'tranny' looking

wEw

>>50653614
A millions points of lasgun only guardsman is not worth even a single IK because they cant hurt it.

>>50653530
So not SoB players shitposting

Actual SoB players don't give a fuck. They have had the TOTALLY LEGIT RUMORS OF PLASTIC SOB NEXT MONTH, since 3rd edition when everyone was getting plastic models for at least their basic troop.

I play SoB, mostly impress about the lazy ass rules copy pasted since 3rd. Like the only big change was how Acts of Faith work.

TL:DR people are shitposting as usual, now it is SoB themed.

>>50653639
That is possible. Does that mean then, the guy that I like at the store who plays Sisters, would like to dress up as a girl and violate me to satiate his lesbian fantasies?

>>50653646
>Pretending Sisters of Battle are genetically born women

>>50653538
Geanstealer cults are awesome, they can take flyrants as allies

fixed.

>>50653597
Looks fun/10 to me boss.

>>50653669
Wait, you're a girl? L O N D O N.

>>50653665
Of course. Most people are going "SOB BTFO!!!" to people who were spreading the rumour in the first place. I like to pretend it was an elaborate Tzeentchian troll. Shitposters pretend they're being updated, do it for weeks, pretend shit is going to happen. Then when it obviously doesn't, they go "HAHAHA BTFO!". They get two types of emotion. It's of genius!

>>50653597
You can't take an Infantry Squad as a troops choice for Guard, you have to take Veterans or an infantry Platoon (1 PCS and two Infantry Squads minimum)

>>50653597
>never mix heavy weapons

>>50653597
Like the other anon said, you would have to take a platoon or a Vet squad. Seeing as how your squad there is all mixed and matched, I would say get a Vet squad and give them all plasma guns.

>>50653703
>Wait, you're a girl? L O N D O N.
There are no girls, tits or gtfo, etc.

>>50653653
That's intentional.

>>50653669
I would meme about you being a girl, but I don't care. I want to see the cute boy you like :3

>>50653714
I got told to not mix lots of things and when I did, it turned out alright!

>>50653653
Correct. That's what makes the game fun, there are units that are good against Vehicles, good against infantry, good against Monsters ect.

It creates a varied gameplay that allows for something known to the ancients as 'fun'.

Without this the game is just chess.

You're more than welcome to go play chess instead anon.

>>50653617
>See my original post and try again.
To be honest I was mostly baiting you until this point, but holy shit you've convinced me. You actually have a two point IQ and can't follow an imageboard reply chain.

Here is the post I replied to with the melta/fist argument, assuming it isn't too much stress for your brain to process >>50653224

>Both Champ-only upgrades and not a viable contingency for a literally 400+ point unit you flaming homosexual. Would you take a single lascannon in a squad of guys with heavy bolters so that you had anti-armor? NO you wouldn't, you'd take it in a separate squad so the HBs can kill what they are good at killing while the LC pops the vehicles it's good at popping.
>anti-infantry unit is shit because it doesn't instantly destroy top-tier vehicles
Even more retardation. Have you considered the Special Olympics?

>Mid-tier
Try again, they've scored top-tier in several tournaments.

>Cheap MSU with unparalleled maneuverability that actually lets them get to melee. Protip: Zerkers don't have this.
What is Maelstrom of Gore. I wouldn't expect you to retain that though.

Tell your handler I'm sorry.

>>50652885
>Detachment of Valkyries in IA
>taken as part of an IA army
>cant start in ally transports XDDD

I'm pretty sure even GW isn't that retarded.

>>50653669
L
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D
O
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>>50653726
Nah. We've moved onto LONDON posting, rather than the rest. Not like you'd post tits here anyway. I remember there was a 40k porn picture of a SoB going "I thought I only had to show my tits" getting mouth sexed.

>>50653744
Chess is incredibly unbalanced. It's also racist. I mean, whites go first? How OP is that shit? Whites LITERALLY get initiative and the only way black can win is by white fucking up.

>>50653653
I... honestly can't tell if you're joke. I really, really hope for your sake you are.

>>50653744
>ect

You mean etc. Etc is short for et cetera.

This is an odd question...Can my land raider be within 2 inches of a comms relay on an Imperial bunker and allow me to reroll reserves? Or does it have to be an infantry model?

>>50653754
We'll see next week.

>>50653735
I will take a picture of him next time.

And also mixing thing can be okay, but having dedicated units is better in most cases. If your mostly Heavy Bolter squad is suddenly on anit-tank duty then you might be playing poorly.

>>50653760
That wasn't me. Also hot.

>>50652952
They have art, so some animation in that style wouldn't be strictly uncannon.

>>50653778
Shit son, you beat him the fuck out!

It's over everyone, AoS wins!

>>50653794
Neat. Then I want a pick of you sucking his dick. :3

I'm so alone

>>50653794
I could link that picture if you're interested, I'll use imgur or something.

How many stormsurges are too many? 2 or 3?

>>50653830
It's okay I'm cock starved too

>>50653784

Considering that it was mentioned the SoB Decurion give everything shield of faith, I think it's pretty obvious.

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>>50653830
Fuck, when did /v/ get in here? B-but, do post that

>>50653845
Any quantity outside of competitive play, as they are boring and overpowered, honestly riptides can do nearly as much cheese and not be as boring and ugly.

>>50653815
I don't give a fuck what he was arguing about, I just pointed out he spelled a 3 letter word wrong. It's a regular mistake on 4chan. Don't learn unless people tell you.

Also I can't see any mention of AoS in there, but maybe I don't care enough to check the reply chains any more.

>>50653872
>This level of bitterness

We'll turn it into a softcore erp just for you.

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>>50653653
>WAAAA game is broken because 1 million pts of guards can't hurt a tank with their lasguns

Have you considered getting good at the game?

Also guardsman squads can take Lascanons and melta bombs so 1 million points of guards would surely kill a knight. Checkmate atheist.

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>>50652668
Be honest, do you spend more time on these threads than you do actually playing the game?

>>50653863
http://imgur.com/a/oJKHI

Enjoy.

>>50653851
I'm actually straight, was just pretending to be a faggot, haha, you know, for a joke, haha...Plus I don't believe that guy is a girl anyway.

>>50653853
mentioned where?

>>50653894
>playing the game?

Do you count painting/modeling and loitering at the store.

>>50653729
>>50653744
>>50653762

Its an AoS design decision that I don't particularly disagree with. The project was to convert it to AoSish. Adding back in the WS and SvT charts would it would make it more complicated to calculate the points costs for everything.

>>50653853
The SoB decurion lets them reroll saves of 1 for one turn a game, Anon.

>>50653894
My mate laughs at all online communities of wargames. He always says that people in these types of communities are a poor representation of the actual hobby because only a small % of them are regular players. He claims this is where "OMG THIS UNIT IS OP" shit comes from, people not actually playing the game but pretending shit is in a vacuum.

I do, but that's because of a long story. *harp flashback twingle*

>>50653518
No epub, only pdf in the older megas

>>50653876
>Being this autistic over a typo.
Ok

>>50653781
Anyone...? This really affects how I'd play my list on the tabletop.

>>50653907
No

>>50653894
Well my group only meets once a week so yes.

>>50653897
I never said I was or wasn't, but you just gotta let assumptions go, but you know we can still talk about qt 40k penis

>>50653872
I enjoy living and I enjoy you, you salty sissy.

>>50653912
>marine fires gun at guardsmen
>boltgun hits on a 3+
>wounds on a 4+
>rend
>guardsmen are as hard to wound as spess marhines.
This is why I hate the idea of AoS rules in 40k

>>50653906
>>50653920

http://spikeybits.com/2016/12/160418.html

>>50653912
>Its an AoS design decision that I don't particularly disagree with.
Literal cancer.

>>50653920
Is the person who is writing these codexes obsessed with Once Per Game rules or something? AoF are OPG, re-roll is OPG.

Yet you get shit like the Rekahri or whatever, formation for Thousand Sons which gives Magnus the Red + 3-9 Terminator Squads +1T if they're within 3 other units in 12". Oh and re-roll failed saving rolls of 1.

So that Magnus is now T8 4+/2++, with a re-roll to that 2++ when it fails (as it can only fail on a 1) oh and the best bit? Magnus can then become T9 with that blessing (somebody has to cast it on him)

>>50653125
Theyll either do really well, or just get shat upon.

>>50653948
The Marine gets a 4+ and the Guardsman gets a 6+

>>50653040

>ywn ask your pretty boy friend to play 40k with you so that you can spend time alone with him teaching him the rules
>ywn explain the factions and lore and get him hooked on the game so that he comes back regularly
>ywn joke that if he were a girl you'd probably date him, only to watch him blush and turn away, chuckling
>ywn hold him in your arms, stroking his hair and telling him that his beauty rivals that of Sanguinius
>ywn passionately make out with him on your game table, two giants holding and loving one another as a battle rages around you

>>50653949
Spikeybits is a like a hipster version of BolS. It's full of clickbait.

>>50653924
Does he play Tau or Eldar, by any chance? Most of what /tg/ does when it isn't just fanatically spouting memes is Mathhammer, which is an empirical method of calculating point-efficiency. What your friend needs to understand is that there is a difference between taking a unit that is branded OP and winning games on cruise control.

>>50653735
how did it turn out alright? if this is your first list then you have never played a game
dont mix meltaguns and grav on bikers, just give them both grav
autocannon and hvy flamer on the dread? do double hvy flamer in a drop pod or double auto or stock in drop pod also make it a regular dread or inorclad
dont put grav on crusaders
in the large crusader squad all shotguns or something
you probably need grimaldus for the fnp
drop the terminators
put more points into crusader squads OR shotgun+cc scout squads in land speeder storms.

you need to bring a big wave of units if you're gonna try and use templar worth a damn
you cheap models that result in many attacks

>>50653946
>we can still talk about qt 40k penis
Underneath bush trimmed to the shape of Imperial Aquila?

>>50648172
>All they did was put the death stamp on her.
>death stamp
>St. Celestine
I'm not sure you understand how she works.

>>50653978
Joke's on you I actually did this this weekend
The winner got a special prize

>>50653944
Once a week!
That's pretty hardcore. I wish I could get mind to meet more than twice a year.

>>50653885
>more larping
How's that depression working for ya?

>>50653946
>I enjoy living and I enjoy you, you salty sissy.
Is that what you told yourself when you tested HIV positive?

>>50653436
Made a new list, don't like it very much though. Not gonna post it because I really don't like it.

Leviathan Dread sounds cool, but I dunno. I'd love if FW Dreads could get the Deathwing and Grim Resolve rules. I know that they're not really important rules, but Fluff>All else.

I suppose I should just remove the LR and give the tacs Rhinos, and buy a Termi chaplain. I love my all plasma list, but I know I need to get rid of the Plasma cannons, unfortunately.

I guess I could save a little money by using the Missile Launchers the box comes with then, or not use any Heavy Weapons. This is really bothering me, actually.

I guess I'll just have to write up an 1850 list, since that's what seems like everyone plays everywhere.

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>>50654006
I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the term LARP, Anon.

Don't stop, though. You're hilarious.

>>50653894
I just got back into 40k after like 7 years. I've been painting non-stop for 5 days and I intend to have my whole army painted by the next weekend. I have 40 Guardsmen painted, 2 Chimeras, a Leman Russ and a Sentinel painted. I just gotta come up with a 1k painted list to bring to the store so I can learn to play. What is left now is to assemble and HQ choice, paint the special weapons and maybe paint a few more vehicles. After that I will be able to play hopefully a few games a week as I continue to paint on the side.

I talked with the dude at the store a lot and he said there's a strong competitive scene at 1850 points around here, so I'm going to practice and paint until I have a good 1850 list to start playing more in the competitive scene.

>>50653983
Nope. He plays multiple armies. Dark Angels and CSM to the best of my knowledge are his most used, though he has vanilla and BA as well.

The point is, you can go "Veterans are outright better than Scions" and then claim Scions are useless because there is a better option out there. He's merely stating that communities live in a black and white situation. Something is either OP/Good or Poor/Shit.

This is his opinion, but it's based on the fact a game has terrain and dice rolling, rather than mathhammer. Yes, you can work out which is the 'best', but that doesn't mean you're fucked if you take other shit.

>>50653965
>So that Magnus is now T8 4+/2++, with a re-roll to that 2++
Sure and that costs around 3000 points.

>>50653965
You have to take the max number of units in the formation to get the reroll 1s save bonus, so realistically you will almost never see it on the TT.

>>50653977
4+ what? Save? Please tell me you're joking...

>>50653985
Yes? I know there is always a most efficient list possible, but I don't always do that. What's wrong with that?

Like Skiitari Rangers can be mixed or Pathfinders. It might not be 'efficient', but I don't really care that much. My group isn't WYSIWYG and neither side cares about WAAC in friendly games. The only time we do efficient lists is when we're practising for a tournament.

>>50654030
Sounds like he's actually believing the sensationalist memes. But yes, that was my point exactly. You can take Scatbikes and Wraithknights but if you deploy badly and make tactical decision worthy of the mentally handicapped then you can and will still lose. That doesn't mean the units you have aren't OP or not, point-for-point, BETTER than other options, it just means that the game has more to it than rolling dice.

>>50654006
I'm with >>50654022 on that. You are funny.

>>50654040
Still a salty sissy.

I bet you like it when I call you that. I bet you want me to insult you more as I rub my feet on your face

>>50653989
One can only hope. That would be really cute.

>>50653977
>human in power armour just as tough as sm in power armour.
>No ID
>t7 monsters dropping like flies to bolter spam.
>armour saves on vehicles .
>vehicles being just big monsters without cc abilites.
>ork players will stop whining.
anon this isn't going to turn out all right

>>50654028
God speed anon, was Guard your army back then?

>>50654032
How much is a squad of Terminators? I can't remember. Magnus is 650. So, 3 squads of Terminators is 2350 points?

>>50654075
But anon! It's so hard to remember S v T!

>>50654051
Do you? I honestly can't remember, I was sure it was possible with just 3.

Oh well, not that it matters. He's T8 anyway with Warp Flesh.

>>50654087
>So, 3 squads of Terminators is

Around 1200+pts depending on the gear.

>>50654079
Yes sir it was. Guard and back then it used to be Witch Hunter ally rules, so I would occasionally add in things like an Inquisitor plus his retinue or some Sisters and sometimes some Penitent Engines.

I just never really painted it back then. I only played with friends and we were all lazy. Now I really want a full painted army.

>>50654087
that doesnt get you rerolling ones though anon.

>>50654060
ok? let me tell you something about templar...they will never be a WAAC list
I'm pretty sure the suggestions I'm giving would actually make your list fluffier and more fun for both players, especially considering you'll be using your special rules more
fuck you if anything I'm telling you to play FLUFFIER and you call me a WAACfag? cmon bruh

>meant to clearify I meant all shotguns+chainswords on initiates in large crusader squads

>>50654111
Magnus is a Daemon of Tzeentch. He doesn't need a formation bonus to reroll 1s.

>>50654055
Against a bolter that has rend of -1 yah.

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>>50654099
>S v T!

>>50654120
fuck edit again I meant neophytes

>>50654111
The re-roll is from him being a Daemon, not the formation. Which is why I was talking about 3 units. Unless I am misremembering again.

>>50654120
I think you're replying to the wrong person. I never mentioned BT anywhere. I assumed you were replying to my mixed thing comment (I never mentioned 40k specifically referring to mixing).

So lads. With confirmation from GW that SoS are defo getting more shit in 40k, do you think they'll be a codex combined with Adeptus Custodes?

What do you think it'd be called?

I think "Weapons of the Emperor" or "Emperor's Chosen" or something like that.

>>50654165
I said never mix hvy weapons, replying to a templar list
so I assumed you werethe anon to post the list

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>>50654181
>>>/pol/ is that way friendo. Don't feel as if you need to leave immediately or anything, though.

>>50654181
You really do want me to shove my girly heavy bolter down your throat. You're so lewd.

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SPACE MARINE 2 CONFIRMED!!!

>>50654236
That's a z, moron.

>>50654217
Nah. I was another guy basically making a joke on mixing drinks and mixing alcohol with medication and shit.

I thought you were trying to turn it into a discussion so I just replied anyway. Sorry.

>>50654129
>rend
Jesus Fucking Christ.

No, just no. Get the fuck out of here.

What should I pick up for my Space Marines? I got $100, unfortunately can only buy at full price.

Currently got:
Contemptor
Leviathan Dread
Venerable Dread
2 Stormhawk Interceptors
Razorback
Assault Squad
5 Drop Pods
4 Tacticals
Sternguard
4 Tacticals
2 Devestators
25 Scouts

I also got a Dorito Dread and 2 Techmarines placed from Glorious China

>>50654132
The argument they are having is about if the Strength v. Toughness chart is too complicated.

I'm not joking.

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>>50654270
Amused, Anon. The word you are looking for is amused. I was already aroused before you went full retard. I don't dislike idiots.

I wonder how long it will take you to realize there's more than one person laughing at you? Can you tell which you first sperged at?

What percentage of Sisters of Battle are traps?

>>50654264
Thunderfire Cannons. Rapier Batteries.

And what Space Marines you running as? I assume vanilla.

>>50654265
Not either of them, but in WHFB there was more shit in the way to actually play

>I vs I
>WS vs WS
>S vs T
>Armour Save reduction based on S
>Armour Save roll
>Ward Save roll
>Special Rules, Cover Bonuses, Terrain Bonuses, Flank Bonuses, Rank Bonuses

There was more shit to do in WHFB. Which is what I think the argument is about. 40k is a fine mix, but I've always hated you only have 1 save, whatever.

>mfw miss my 2+/3++ Chaos Lord in WHFB

>>50654319
Iron Hands.

>>50654316
All of them have qt girl dicks swinging between their legs. They are all in chastity devices. When they purge foul xenos, despite never touching themselves, they spurt on the cloth between their legs.

Why do people like SoB? Is it just mai waifu in 40k?

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>>50654265
> the Strength v. Toughness chart is too complicated.
I am too young to feel this old.
What is 40ks new target demographic retards?
>>50654316
0% by definition.
shotas maybe, but males of legal age 0%

>>50654316
None - anything outside the binary gender roles laid out by the Emperor are heretical.

>>50654316
None. Sisters of Battle are an exclusively female organization.

>>50653280
>Marine players think they're "cool people"

>Shout FOR THE EMPEROR every turn
>Role play in every thread "PURGE THE HERETIC ahahaha that's such a funny joke right guys right? I just came up with it!"
>Play stupid "Mary Sue" PC faction then get mad when other factions get something as good (as per fluff)
>Autistic fascination with ancient memes (HERESY LOLOLO)
>Autistic fascination with shitty models

Marine players are the stereotypical fat manchildren who are associated with 40k as a whole. In reality it's almost solely Marine players who are that way.

>>50653981
>Implying BOLS isn't clickbait
Shame on you anon. Both are shit.

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Is this list work any better

>>50654236
Don't toy with my heart like that, anon

>>50653981
>hipster version of BolS. It's full of clickbait.
anon.
I'm afraid to tell you that both sites likely share staff and if they don't they likely operate giving different stories to each other in some sort of incestuous relationship of paid advertisements paraded around as news.
bols is as shitty a polygon or what have you as spikybitz.
even faeit 202 is pretty shit but i let that slide.
this is beyond the people in glass houses,
it's the glass people that live in glass houses shouldn't through glass.

>>50654319
Well, with FnP being handed out like candy you get two saves on a lot of shit now.

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>>50654429
My man, there is showing you the door to a board that's more your speed, and trying to kick you out. I'm not saying you have to go anywhere, only that you might be happier if yo did. Take your time, though. I'll be here a couple hours yet.

You're going to need some fresher material than projecting your insecurities, though. It was funny for a while, but it's getting a little old now.

So what army do you play?

>>50654345
I like them for the Gothic theme and for the Flamer spam, because I love templates.

Hello anons, i'm a bit of newfag and i was wondering is this
>>50654518
>>50654429
is this some sort of neckbeard mating ritual

>>50654534
No just /pol/ baiting.

>>50654346
>What is 40ks new target demographic retards?
Apparently so.

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I'm almost done putting together the tyranid start collecting box. The warriors and tyrant are just missing arms. What weapons should I give my warriors for a few small fun games. I really want to paint everything before I get any other models, so what's my best bet until then to enjoy some games?

>>50654570
I personally run my Warriors with Devourers and Rending Claws, but stock Warriors are also a decent option.

>>50652809
All of them have pretty sick builds.

my favorite is the super cheap iron hands, max out the warband cause fuck you. Where you have obsec, stubborn, and 6+ fnp on standard csm marines.

I play dg and people forget if you do not take plague marines your army lacks moral, basically you are shittier necrons.

>>50653462
I play sisters, the saint aint good mate.....

Uriah outshines her in one giant way, that fuckhuge banner of awesomeness.

>>50654712
>iron hands,
iron warriors perhaps?

>>50654760
yep, too similar.

>>50654754
Same here, hard not to take a blob of 20 and Uriah when making a list.
Once in awhile take Celestine for variety...still not happy to see it gone.

>>50654337
Then even more so with Thunderfire Cannons. I think they're a cool unit and they're pretty good. Though I think they can get a Forge World thing which is better.

You could always get a Land Raider or something. If I was you and have more money, I'd go with a Land Raider Achilles, for Techmarine action. If you had even more, perhaps a Spartan, but that is a LoW iirc.

There's a weird 2d Eldar icon on the Dire Avengers sprue. Anyone got a clue what it is or what I'm meant to do with it? I can't seem to figure it out.

>>50654754
So does the Jaco Bus' ability to grant Fearless and Counter-Attack to all friendly units include allies, or is it just other units from the codex?

I know it might be different now, but it doesn't look like they changed much, so I assume the rules are probably similar or the same.

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>>50654608
Thanks! I kind of want to give each of them a different weapon setup just to try things out. Unless is that a bad thing? Reading rules only goes so far so I have no idea what is effective and what is not.

Do they have a mega pack for Warmachine/Hordes??

>>50654868
Mixing weapons is usually a poor choice.

I just can't change my list. I like it too much.

I want my Land Raider, but I also want to give the tacs Rhinos because it's a good idea and I kinda do like Rhinos.

I want to keep my plasma cannon tacs, termi, and dreadnought, but I don't have enough AT weapons like Melta or Lascannons.

Termies suck apparently and I should just deepstrike them if I want them in a list.

I should just pod my dread apparently, but I'm not fond of that idea either, since I've heard that pods act up when building and painting.

>>50654918
I'm guessing you're the fluffy DA player?

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Drunk anon here, what new rules does chaos have for those whom worship Nurgle. Feel no pain and slow and purposeful?

>>50654932
Yeah.

>>50654958
Whoops, didn't mean to double post this!

>>50652878
IG players are bro tier, with the vast majority of them (including myself) preferring to drown their enemies in 200+ shots per turn

>>50653154
whats wrong with vanilla SM?

>>50654918
Why are you trying too?

I'm running our of room for my models.
What do you guys use to store your models when they're at home? I have a small shelf but its fully of modelling supplies.

>>50654972
Chuck melta on the land raider, dread, and maybe drop the power weapons/plasma pistols off the sergeants in exchange for combimeltas or meltabombs. You can maybe even scrape enough points together from that for a drop pod so your dread can get up close.

It's less fluffy a list though, and this isn't exactly great anti-tank, but it means you'll have enough melta to burn through a land raider or two if you absolutely have to. Your call really. You could just keep your list and pretend av14 doesn't exist.

>>50654998
Shoe/hat-boxes full of foam.

>>50654998
A second shelf?

>>50654998
Use even more shelves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw8RzcTjJZA

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>>50655037
Eventually you have to realize you have a problem

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>tfw you try to sneak away from fighting trip riptide but the commissar is one step ahead of you.

it was a new player who pretty much bought every big tau bot because they looked cool, was actually a pretty fun game . Poor guy couldn't pass a nova generator test to save his life. Then a bunch of guardsmen with heat seeking plasma guns showed up and riptides started going down quick.

I'm almost certain if I was going against a more experienced player I would've gotten crushed but it was his first game. Almost certain the guy forgot some rule to keep the things alive, they went down surprisingly easy to massed guardsmen.