Warhammer 40,000 general

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First for da kunning orks

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>Things that get hyped by GW that no one uses

I'm heading to GW this week and I am torn between Necrons, Tau, and IG. I like the look of all of them, but how fun are each of them to play?

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>>50629474

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5th for best legion.

>>50629480

Never seen this before. Is there a Mek plane out?

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Can't decide on the colour of my Gauss anons
This Colour Theory gets my goat

>>50629480

the fuck is that????

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>>50629480
da orks time will com son dont you wory grot

>>50629492
>5th for worst legion.
FTFY

>>50629499
>>50629508

Wazbom Blastajet

>>50629499
>>50629508
Its This
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Ork-Wazbom-Blastajet

>>50629506

Contrast it with the color of the 'crons themselves.

>>50629506
well what color are your necrons ? fluo pink, yellow, blue or green are the strongest the human eye can see

>>50629531

I feel sorry for orks when I see units like that, that I've never seen before...

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>>50629532
>>50629548
B-but i'm retarded with colour
Here's test scarabs, since i'm waiting for an airbrush and working on their fluff until then

So we can all agree that infiltrating an entire army of cultists and chosen makes alpha legion da best right?

>>50629487
Tau: don't be a faggot
Necron: tough, shooty, one of the more beginner-friendly factions afaik
IG: awesomeness, but expensive and could be a chore to paint

>>50629530
>>50629531

Is it new? When was it released?

The Aeronautica formation looks handy desu. I wouldn't mind having a cheap flyer or two to support my Admech

>>50629559
You're using a lot of warm reddish to yellow hues, so a blueish colour would contrast

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has anyone had much converting/rules success with IG tanks that aren't leman russ/hellhound variants? been craving some IG medium armour halfway between hellhounds and leman russes, and was wondering if anyone had made anything like this chimera stug I quickly kitbashed and meshed up.

>>50629586
It was released a while ago when Death from the Skies came out. Same with a Stormhawk Interceptor for Space Marines

aaaand its sold out

Glad i got my 4 at least :^)

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>>50629455

>still haven't anything about my Made to Order Daemonettes

Did GW take my money and run?

>>50629586
With that new shoddy fliers minigame

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ORKS

1. An Initiative increase across the board. Boyz are now I3, Nobz are now I4, and Warbosses are now I5.

2. Army-wide Furious Charge.

3. A Ballistic Skill increase across the board. Boyz are now BS3, Nobz are now BS4, and Warbosses are now BS5.

4. Choppas are now AP4. Big Choppas are now AP3.

5. A Toughness increase across the board. Boyz are now T4, Nobz are now T5, and Warbosses are now T6.

6. A Leadership increase across the board. Boyz are now LD8, Nobz are now LD9, and Warbosses are now LD10.

7. Army-wide Feel No Pain 6+. This can be improved with Wargear and Painboyz up to a maximum of 4+.

8. Painboyz and Mekboyz are Elite choices. You may take up to 3 of each type as a single Elites choice, and you may distribute them as Independent Characters.

9. Mekboyz now have access to Kustom Force Fields. A Kustom Force Field grants a 4+ Cover Save to all models completely within 18 inches, including vehicles.

10. A Waaaaagh may be called once per game, and grants all Orks in your army Fearless for that turn. Calling a Waaaaagh also allows all Orks in your army the ability to reroll their Charge distance for that turn.

11. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 2+ armour save, 1 per army.

12. Characters now have access to non-Mega Armour wargear that grants a 3+ invulnerable save, 1 per army.

>>50629598
The yellow is just a stand-in for a gauss colour.
Are we talking about a light blue or a dark blue? I'm trying to learn this theory stuff but it just isn't clicking

>>50629621
>>50629621
Hummiz plese don't worry about dis weirdgrot.

Diz grot keep stolan my deliciou' ork art and saying da same thing ova and ova.
but i guezz he smart becose he can count more dan 10 hummies and we orks only have 10 fingas

please look at me old orks now diz my grand grand father

>>50629522
>Being an Ultramarine-fag
>The Year of the Great Crusade -28983

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>>50629644
Well your bronze i rather dark and your red i kinda desaturated so a bright blue will contrast the most.

Personally I'd recommend you get paint.net, and play with the hue sliders to tweak colours on pictures of your shit.

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>>50629682
forgot da art

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>>50629693
Oh my god that's awesome
You're the best anon thanks

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4500 Battle Company of FREE RHINOS
++Battle Demi-Company 1++
-Company Master, 90
+Artificer armor, 20
+Storm Shield, 25
+Relic Blade, 15
+Plasma Pistol, 15
Total, 155
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)
-Command Squad, 90
+Company Champion, 15
+Apothecary, 15
+Company Standard, 15
+Melta Bombs, 10
+Storm Shields, 30
+3 Power Weapons, 45
+3 Plasma Pistols, 45
Total, 265
-Dreadnought, 100
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Extra Armor, 10
Total, 115
-Assault Squad, 70
+5 Marines, 70
+3 Plasma Pistols, 45
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Jump Packs, 30
Total, 225
-Devastator Squad, 70
+5 Marines, 70
+4 Plasma Cannons, 60
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
Total, 240
++Battle Demi-Company 2++
-Chaplain, 90
+Plasma Pistol, 15
Total, 105
-3x Tactical Squad, 70
+5 marines, 70
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Plasma Cannon, 15
Total, 210 (630)
-Assault Squad, 70
+5 Marines, 70
+3 Plasma Pistols, 45
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Jump Packs, 30
Total, 225
-Dreadnought, 100
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Extra Armor, 10
Total, 115
-Devastator Squad, 70
+5 Marines, 70
+4 Plasma Cannons, 60
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Plasma Pistol, 15
+Power Sword, 15
Total, 240
++Deathwing Redemption Force++
-Terminator Librarian, 90
+Storm Bolter, 5
+Mastery Level Two, 25
Total, 120
-2xDeathwing Terminator squad, 200 (400)
+5 Terminators, 200 (400)
+Plasma Cannon, 30 (60)
+Perfidious relic of the Unforgiven, 15 (30)
+4 Chainfists, 20 (40)
Total, 465
-Deathwing Command Squad, 200
+Deathwing Company Banner, 20
+Champion, 5
+Apothecary, 5
+Plasma Cannon, 5
+Perfidious Relic of the Unforgiven, 15
+2 Chainfists, 10
Total, 260
++Inner Circle++
Terminator Interrogator Chaplain, 140
+Mace of Redemption, 30
Total, 170
COMPLETE TOTAL, 4,425

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>>50629644
hey hummie.
I found dat on an space wlf 1 day.
Da magic trick is to take the colo' on da oppozit of the colo' ya use.
Thank gork i found this years ago

>>50629721
Ok

>>50629721
Please go to here https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator and try again

>>50629721
FIX YOUR FORMATTING

>>50629734
Are you mad?
WIth the awful bloat of that shit he'll get a 8000x600 output.

>>50629730
th-thanks

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OPERATION: WALK THE FUCK ACROSS THE BOARD AND SHOOT ANY MOTHERFUCKER TO NOT RUN LIKE A SCALDED DOG

>>50629480
What was the stats of that monster again?

It was part of that suppliment Ork players refuse to aknowledge as it nerfed dakka jets.

>>50629802
>stats
Same as all the other ork fliers, just different guns.

EIther two KMK's, or two tellyporta kannons
Two supa shootas and an optional smasha gun and 5+ missile defense or KFF

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>>50629799
hey dork hummiz.
da problem wiz ya band iz dat i hav dis in my poket : a KannonBox

you need more S8 roket or lazor to kill da Boxes

>>50629802
200 point AV 10 flier that comes standard with a single shot Smasha Gun and a twin-linked KMK.

Then you can buy shit upgrades such a the KFF or get tellyporta kannons.

I don't have an actual copy of its stat page however.

>>50629857

No-one likes roleplay posters.

No-one.

It's literally never funny.

>tfw kitbashing a decent Corsairs army will be expensive as fuck

FFFFFFFFF

Where can I get elf/eldar pistols en masse? I know the Brace of Pistols rules specifically state you don't have to model all 4 of the pistols, but I'd like to have at least some dual-wielding space elf pirates.

>>50629474
kunnin' but brutal
or
brutal but kunnin'

>>50629912

Bits suppliers, probably. Check eBay.

>>50629931
Naw it's Kunnin'ly brutal or brutally kunnin'

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>>50629931
heh look at dat french hummie
da french are bad at trenszlation once mor.
take dis art frenchiz. and thank gork

>>50630007
but i am not french bro

Orks are so fucking shit, GW should remove them.
They just a relic from the silly days of 40k when fantasy existed. Now the game is serious and respected but we still have green clowns.

They're shit on the tabletop too, it's why no one plays them.
If we can remove squats we can remove Orks.

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Just got pic related, special gun is 18" S8 Ap1 one use armourbane blast.

>>50629880
at least his comment was valuable on the list he commented.

unlike your bitching about chaos, SoB or anything on the Bingo.

>>50630044
Can you please stop posting this. At this point its not even bait. We've all seen it 10 times already and know its just you attempting to shit post.

>>50630049
>Combi-melta FIST
GIVE IT TO ME

>>50630049
dat chaos edgework on the legs.

Is there nothing loyalists won't steal?

will the novel mega ever get an update?

>>50630062
Im not the only one saying this, people agree they're pure shit.

Remove Orks and bring in a different xenos faction.

>>50629943

Thanks anon

Follow-up: Anyone have experience ordering from Hoard O' Bits?

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>>50630044
except it will never happen. we got 12 fucking books of ork fluff this year.

2/10 for making me post

>>50630114
>Gets caught samefagging
>"Nuh-uh"

>>50630044

I was just thinking this (sorta). It's less so that they need to be removed than that they need to be grimdark'd up. GW has thoroughly scoured the game of jokes and obvious satire and now treats it as an original donutsteal IP. In that case the retarded cockneys who can't do anything right are not so grimdark. They should be more of a threat somehow.

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>>50630114
You are trying way, way too hard mate. Take my image to heart and just stop.

So now the Traitor Legions supplement came out I dug through my drawers and found my old DG and built a list with what they've got, will it work?

> Combined Arms Detachment (998pts) <

Force Options [Death Guard]

> HQ <

Typhus

> Troops <

9x Chaos Space Marines [2x Plasma Gun, MoN, VotLW]
Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Melta Bombs MoN, VotLW]

9x Chaos Space Marines [2x Plasma Gun, MoN, VotLW]
Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Melta Bombs MoN, VotLW]

> Fast Attack <

4x Raptors [2x Meltagun, MoN, VotLW]
Raptor Champion [Bolt Pistol, CCW]

> Heavy Support <

Obliterators [MoN, VotLW]

Obliterators [MoN, VotLW]

Obliterators [MoN, VotLW]

>>50630142
I get somewhat where you are coming from, and hardly agree with the prior anon but, at the same time, The Beast Arises series mostly served to show that even united the Orks can't win (putting the lie to their traditional Codex blurb) that they have easily exploited kill switches and that they are consistently within their own book denigrated compared to Chaos.

The Beast Arises series did, in my opinion, little good for Orks.

The Orks need to have some actual success to be more viable again, having Ghazghkull actually manage significant victories and not lose every single time Marines land would be a good start.

>>50629607
No, you'll be waiting about 28 days.

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Proposed fix for Ogryns:

Give them a unique melee weapon, the Ripper Blade (representing the massive bayonet on the Ripper Gun):

A simple laser-sharpened piece of tempered ceramite, the Ripper Blade becomes a deadly weapon in the hands of an Ogryn. Wielded with their abhuman strength and single-minded ferocity, it can pry open the armor of foes like a can of soup at the mess hall.

S User AP - Rending

This would have the dual effect of making Ogryns viable as a beatstick unit and also differentiating them from Bullgryns. Bullgryns have strong defense, with their much improved armor and slabshields, while Ogryns have significantly stronger ranged and melee damage output.

>>50630069
He's also a free upgrade.

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>>50630049
>one use
Cute

How big are plague drone wings compared to marines?

I'm considering a MoN raptor unit with insect wings.

>>50630114
Orks are my first and primary army, and I think I'd like to see them removed at this point.

>>50630279
>I want a few hundred dollars and hours of painting to go to waste, like this anon who I am totally not, instead of waiting for a new codex in the upcoming edition.

We're faggots, not idiots.

>>50630279
You're only saying that because your codex is shit. Rules can get better.

>>50630273
The big wings are about 1½ times the size of a marine, the smaller ones are about as high a a marine.

>>50630044
This is what you want. Take it.

>>50630324

Dammit, those are a bit too big then. Or at least, will look weirdly out of proportion.

>>50630316
I'm not going to give up my Ork army...but I'll admit in moments of weakness I feel like saying the same out of spite sometimes. For me its mostly the fluff. I get so tired of lacking any significant victories.

But I won't ever want them squatted if I can help it. I would just like them more like orcs from Fantasy who ddestroyed an entire 12th of the Empire Permanantly and hold many of the major Dwarf holds as permanet conquests. Wish Orks could get stuff like that in 40k too.

But squatting Orks would be, to my mind, ridiculous.

>>50630209
they suffer the same syndrome as any xenos faction.
Tau are not a threat
Necron are not a threat yet and will maybe be a threat in 100000 years
Eldar are literraly extinct
DE are a joke of rapist that dont want to conquer anything
Failbaddon is Failbaddon
Tyranid are the "greatest threat" and somehow hive fleets are nearly exterminated in mane battle like maccrage....

when any of the threat will win it will become age of the emperor

Guys, I haven't actively collected or played 40K in about a decade but god help me the new Thousand Sons shit looks cool. I found somebody selling the Rubric Marines cheap-ish- are they at all viable in, say, Kill Team?

>>50630359

no, they are not viable in any format at all. GW are faggots and ruin everything.

>>50630346
>Not realising that Orks Have Already Won

>>50630356
Tyranids ARE the only faction to ever put a serious dent into the Ultras though.

>>50630393
I mean, post heresy.

>>50630346
>For me its mostly the fluff. I get so tired of lacking any significant victories.

So you're an Ork player, but, BUT, you didn't read ANY of the beast arises?

good alphalegion post

>>50630346
>>50630356
>>50630378

Every non-Imperial faction (except Eldar or Tau) has already won, depending on which you play.

>Every action feeds the Chaos Gods
>Orks continue to Ork
>Necrons are unstoppable
>Tyranids outnumber every other race by literally thousands-to-one
>DE are basically living their endgame now

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>>50630346
This is a proof that GW can do ork feel right AND be a top tier army

>>50630415
Wasn't that mostly just shitting on sallies and Imp Fists and elf wanking.

>>50630393
>What are word bearers

>>50630448
>>50630414

>>50630428
>AoS
>Doing anything right
Opinion discarded.vox

>>50630393
>Damnos
Nice 2nd company you HAD there

>>50630428
>ork feel right
>attacking 26 times in a row before the opponent can go

Nah.

>>50630459
Making formations cost points would be a bloody good change for 40k.

>>50630492

Sounds about right to me

>>50630141

They're alright, but they have some tight standards for their eBay buyers. That or I must have offended them in some way, because I can't order from them since I don't "meet their customer standards." I only purchase from eBay infrequently but do leave a lot of feedback, so it's probably that I wasn't buying enough per order or something.

Anyway, they have a good selection and some great odd things floating around. Check out what they have since they might have some other things you might want.

>>50630233
I would like this a lot. I love Ogryn and Bullgryn so much. I just got me a Bullgryn kit, so I'm ready to make them up. Though, I wanted to magnetize their arms in case I want to switch up what they are. I'm not really sure how to go about that so I'm hesitant to start building them.

What do you think is best for Bullgryn? I was thinking of giving them a Priest and possibly putting Yarrick in there. I also thought about walking a unit of 5 with a Priest followed by a Straken command squad that has an Astropath in a Chimera with camo netting. Ideally it would be giving Invisibility to the Bullgryn, giving them the Run Run Run order and then Straken's Chimera gets a 4+ cover save from driving behind the Bullgryns, +1 from the Slabshields and +1 from camo netting. At least, I think that's how it would work. An expensive, but possibly fun bum rush. I'd also probably run a blob of Conscripts next to them as well. If I can still take Inquistors with Nullrods, then I will definitely run one in a blob of Conscripts near them.

TRAITOR LEGIONS EPUB WHERE

>>50630393
Not really. They killed the 1st Company but it had no impact. The Ultramarines suffered no permanent losses or harm as a result of those losses and by the 2nd Tyrannic War the 1st Company was already replenished.

>>50630538
http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-cod-sup/traitor-legions-ebook.html

>>50630511
I2

>>50630415
The Beast Series is a string of Ork defeats?

What part of permanent gains and victories do you not understand? The Beast Arises sees the United Orks Race still lose and reveals that they can easly be killed by reverse-waaagh. Yes I read the series and I disliked it

>>50630560
Fuck, beat me to it, damn bot refusing url shorteners.

>>50630428
I do like that the Ironjawz at least can win. Both at the Maw Gate and Archaon's Ghur fortress they show that they can win against major opponents and actually keep those victories

>>50630574
>Killed off the Imperial Fists
>Not a good victory

It's set 8000 years in the past, what did you expect?

>>50629492
Why do people like Worst Bearers?

>>50630560
pdf when

>>50630602
The Orks to maintain some of the territory they gained which would last into the future has Orkish empires (perhaps setting the basis for the long-lived Orkish empires such as Charadon)

Instead of the Beheading informing us that all the Orkish gains were erased and the Orks eradicated in under a century, and the fourth founding successful and making up for the losses in that time as well.

Or, better, actually have Ghazghkull in 40k beat the Marines in a battle for once.

Also I don't know where 'not a good victory' comes from. It wasn't a 'victory' of any sort for the Orks at all, bad or good. So that's a pointless statement.

>>50630607
Garuntee at least 40 anons have it ready to upload, but delay by five days or something every time someone asks about it because it offends their autism.

But seriously, when will a non-faggot buy this for all of /tg/?

>>50630607
Never

>>50630638
maybe if gaben wasn't so fat we'd have traitor legions and half life 3

(legit though I wish kickasstorrents didn't die because there were some good uploaders there)

>>50630522

Fuck's sake. I don't even have an eBay account yet so I guess I'll be SOL. I'll send them an email and ask though. Thanks for the heads up.

>tfw nobody will sell to zero feedback people
>can't get feedback without someone selling to you

>>50630638
>buy non-physical books
Lol no.

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>>50630606
Because we're the best, and all we wanted was the truth.

Should I give my sergeants power swords and make them veterans or no?

>>50630664

There's a lot of sellers who will sell to you without feedback, you just have to find them.

The most prolific or largest won't sell to you because they want that feedback and ratings to stay #1.

Blackdagger Games is fine, but a little pricey. They do have some great deals on some models, though.

>removing Orks
>only race that brings FUN to warhammer and prevents it from being ultimate edgefest
It's like you want to drive a car without engine or watch Mickey Mouse adventures without Mickey.
Orks and Space Marines are staple of warhammer 40k history

>>50629559
this looks good imo

>>50630664
>tfw nobody will sell to zero feedback people
The fuck?

eBay is just a marketplace, just buy shit

>>50630692

Depends on what you expect of them. Fighting a lot of challenges? Yes. Just being gunline Tac Squad sarges? Don't bother and spend the points on bigger guns.

>>50630641
epub when?

>>50630702

Many, if not most, of the biggest (and therefore cheapest) sellers have some disclaimer like "we reserve the right to cancel the auction if the winner has 0 feedback" or similar.

>>50630722
See>>50630560

>>50630698
>Orks
>Fun
You mean super spergy? Orks aren't funny in the slightest.

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>>50630664
>>50630694
>>50630522
>>50630141

Are you all fucking stupid ? Hoard o bits is great i ordered maybe 10 times from them ON THEIR OWN WEBSITE.
They deliver fast but sometimes things are missing, in that case just email them and they send it to you for free

>>50630727
You're not serious right?

>We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone

WOAH! I better bring a reference if I ever want to eat at a restaurant again

Can Tau do mechanized infantry, or is that just a fever dream of Shas'El?

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>>50630734

>>50630734
says you. and "all those other guys" that you "know"

>>50630359
Rubric marines are an elite unit with a specific niche, taking them as troops narrows the potential of any list substantially.

The main problem for the TS is that gunline bolter marines arent that good. Add to this paying a premium for the niche of fucking over MEQ, which as we just stated isnt very good and therefore common*, you end up with serious problems.

The next problem is the sorcerer tax attached to each unit. Normally sorcerer are usful however having no upgrades/wargear or the ability to leave or join other unit means they are strictly worse then normal sorc. Considering also that most of the TS formation force you to take more sorcs on top of this the cost adds up. This causes you to have sorcerers spread out amongst you army instead of in a deathstar where they shine best.

A lot of TS problems can be solved by adding demon allies, however whe nyou get to that point it becomes strictly better to run more demons the TS options sadly. Overall the release is disappointing however you can make use of the units, they simply will have to be a list built around using them sparingly for their specific purpose. Every flaw I said can also be negated by simply taking Magnus.

*The traitor legions release may cause many more CSM units to be fielded that you can take advantage of.

>>50630702

eBay can get you a lot of extra bonuses for lots of feedback if you sell a bunch. For larger stores, it's actually a huge boon since it cuts how much it costs for their listings, cutting the price of business for them.

>>50630739

I was missing an expensive part of my order, told them I wanted it refunded and got a refund, and when I went to purchase it again, I apparently no longer met their standards as a buyer. Shame because I dropped bank on them before.

>>50630707
You're probably right. But I do like the models though, which is a conundrum. Currently writing my list as I wait for BaC to arrive, and if I shave off the veterancy and power swords I could afford to give the squads some rhinos, but then I'd have nowhere for my HQ to go, since the tacs are all 10 man squads with full plasma.

I have the feeling that if for whatever reason the tacs are charged at, then the powersword and veterancy would be helpful.

Hmmm...

If not the full Legions, at least the World Eaters please?I don't care about faggot heretics like the worst bears

>>50630764
You should've just asked if they could send you the part. They probably would've done it for free, and if not you could've refunded. Refunding, then buying it again looks funny.

>>50630764
Why would you get a refund and not just a replacement?

I sure as hell wouldn't sell to someone who pulled what you did

>>50630776
it's on 1d4

>>50630776
I'd have given it to you, but then you insulted us so no link for you.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Chaos_Space_Marines(7E)#World_Eaters

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>>50630734
>Orks aren't funny in the slightest.
bet you are a treat at the parties.
I don't think any other army has more personality than orks and sm

>>50630782
>>50630784

I wasn't sure if I wanted it again, since with what I had I was considering just kitbashing what I wanted since I wanted to get started modelling right away. Buying it again was a few days removed, which in retrospect was lost in my post.

>>50630805
Dark eldar

>>50630775

It would be a little helpful in a fight, certainly. If it works with your list, go for it, since it looks like you've already allocated those points to guns already and have the rest allocated for your HQ.

>>50630775
Just keep in mind you spend nearly three marines worth on a tacmarine that will do nothing unless they get charged.

>>50630798
thank, but muh art and fluff

>>50630707
>>50630775
But than again, I also like the powerfist model, and the chainsword as well. Plus, I could go for the old style hazard stripes painted on them as well for the cool retro look.

With the powerfist being a specialist weapon it wouldn't get the bonus attack from his plasma pistol, and the chainsword has no AP, though.

>>50630841
True, but I think those points might be better spent on Rhinos though. Then again, I don't know if the Rhinos would be worth it. And what's really bothering me is because all three tac squads will be 10 man squads, then the chaplain won't have any room in any rhinos I purchase.

>>50630851
You're right, anon. Which is what is bothering me because I feel like they might be or might not be.

And my problem is mostly that since there are Plasma Cannons in each squad, they wouldn't be able to fire if they moved.

I dunno if the Rhinos are worth it, honestly. Trying to be as fluffy as possible with my list.

Currently writing it for 1500, then I'll write it larger to 1850 once I'm happy with it.

>>50630805
>>50630752
>>50630750
>heh he i said umies you guys its funny cause it sounds like i have a cockney accent

>heh heh i said i was gonna krump 'em it's funny cause it sounds dumb

>heh heh i screamed waagh at the top of my lungs in public because im a gigantic sperg with no shame or filter people are staring at me like i'm an aspie heh heh

ork "humor"

So if I want to start playing 40k as Alpha Legion, what boxes do I need to buy? The Start Collecting CSM box and what else?

>>50630954
it's about the spirit you dip

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>>50630954
Door's over there, anon.

>>50630316
Im going to most likely keep them, but the fluff doesn't even do it for me anymore. Sure squatting them would be too much, but every time I see Orks it reminds me of the abortion of an Ork army that I have no enthusiasm for.

Yeah the rules suck compared to later releases, but what really gets me is how boring the codex is. Why can't I put a weirdboy in mega armor? Why can't I put a rokkit pack on a Warboss? Why can't 1 in 3 meganobz take a deffgun or something?

The formations are fucking bland. Take a shit-load of boys and you get S3 HoW if you roll a charge of 10 or more. They gave us that one 3 times already.

I don't believe anybody at GW has the ability or the motivation to make a fun Ork codex or supplement, and I guess I'd rather they spend the time and money developing something else that might actually be fun.

>>50630976
Don't buy that box for them. It's not a good choice anyway, let alone for sneaki breekis like the AL.

>>50630823
you got a point but you know what i mean
>>50630954
it's about personality and character, not quality of jokes

>>50630954
Anon you're right

>>50631009
Okay, so what should I get instead?

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Anyone got any nice poses?

>>50630976
Wouldnt the dark vengence box be much better for Alphas? Chosen, cultist and marines.

Not a chaos player mind you just going from what I remembers in the box.

>>50630976
>The Start Collecting CSM box and what else?
Not worth it, you'll better of with a Betrayal at Calth boxed game and then a shitload of normal humans to use as cultists.
Then expand with some

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I've no idea on the crunch till my Traitor Legions Codex arrives, so should I build my Rubrics full flamers, full bolters, or in what proportion? Pls no bully if TS are shit or something.

>>50631071
You should wait and make up your own mind, spend the time cleaning mold lines.

>>50631071
Rubrics dont have overwatch and warpflame is a terrible rule.

>>50631034
You're going to want a whole bunch of cultists for a start. So a few boxes of Cultist Assault. And a few units of regular CSM, and a Chaos Lord. And a Dark Apostle to fill out a Lost and Damned formation.

After that, fill out the rest of the Chaos Warband formation however you like. You'll want to make some Chosen or get some off Ebay.

>>50630606
As much as anyone ever didn't do anything wrong in all of histroy, Lorgar did Nothing Wrong ten times as much as the next person who did the most Nothing Wrong.

>>50631042
>>50631049

These both seems like a lot of money for a lot of models and extra shit I won't use.

>>50631106

Sounds a lot more like what I was thinking, DESU.

I was thinking about starting a deathwatch army, anyone have any recommendations?

Also, is deathwatch a decent ally for guard?

>>50631125
both calth marines and dangles can be made into EVEN MORE ALPHA LEGION

>>50631141
Recommendations for boxes to buy I mean, sorry for forgetting that.

>>50629582
>Tau: don't be a faggot
>memes plz
Fuck off. Tau are cool as fuck and you can make a fun army without being the camembert of cheese.

>Tau player since '04.

>>50631152
I'd like my army to look consistent, and I'm just starting, so not really comfortable with a lot of conversions.

>>50631162
>Tau
>cool as fuck
Let me guess, you play Infinity as well?

>>50631156
Waiting for a week or so and asking again will give you a much more informed opinion when the imperials supplement is out.

>>50631169
consistency is easily achieved with pain jobs
cleaning all the iconography can be a bit meh but you can just fuck it and do sleeper cells or closet-loyalists

>>50631156
The battle force although not that great rules wise is a very good start point. Also has a lot of spares that are very handy for borrowing basic marines and giving them DW pads and etc.

>>50631141
I've bought two boxes of Death Masque and an Overkill 50/50 with a friend. For around 135€ I?ve got a pretty big army.

>>50631125
Bertrayal at calth is
-A Captain/lord in Terminator Armour
-A Dark Apostle;
- A Contemptor Dreadnought
- Five Cataphractii Terminators
- Thirty Legion Tactical Space Marines
for 150$

30 chaos marines are 120$ alone.

>>50631169
You don't need to convert Calth, its the exact armour most AL used when they originally defected from the imperium.

AL is the chaos faction least inclines to glue spikes and screaming faces to everything they own.

>>50631190
>pain
that's a freaudian slip if I ever saw one

>>50631199
To be fair, those spikes and faces are mostly due to hanging around in the Eye and other chaos infused locations.

>>50631141
The Battleforce is solid.
3x5 marines, 5 termies, 5 bikers, a commander and a razorback, trade yourself to some of the overkill characters for very flavourful models and you've got a solid start.

I hear a lot of people saying Skitarii melee is shit, but I kind of want to do an Admech melee list. Not got enough of the units to go to large point games, but 850 should be nice, especially on our 4x4 tables.

Admech Skitarii Maniple

2x5 Vanguard, 1 arc rifle, arc pistol (80 each)

5 Infiltrators, Flechette/Taser, Conversion Field and Phase Taser (210)

5 Ruststalkers, Conversion Field, Omniscient Mask (190)

2x1 Sydonian Dragoon (45 each)

Inquisitorial Detatchment

Coteaz (100)

Ordo Xenos Inquisitor, ML1, Power armour, Rad and Psychotroke Nades, Grimoire of True Names (98)

Total 848 pts.

>>50630943
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1468

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1469

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1470

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https://mega.nz/#!lYVgWZhZ!K_I8XLUoW6ts3WoMrIBTzkZ7mgTXT3zkj8k4jAK9W7I

Proclaim your faith in the Dark Gods, brothers.

>>50631199

Not who you're responding to, but I've always wondered, are there any legion-specific details on the Betrayal At Calth marines? Or at they just generic?

>>50631251
If you're going for melee, Ruststalkers aren't what you want. Double down on Infiltrators and give one of them the mask.

>>50631271
>https://mega.nz/#!lYVgWZhZ!K_I8XLUoW6ts3WoMrIBTzkZ7mgTXT3zkj8k4jAK9W7I

oh hey, thanks anon

>>50631189
>>50631192
>>50631197
>>50631219
Thanks for the advice, I'll wait for the deathwatch portion of the imp agents codex to be leaked/released and probably pick up some of this.

>>50631278
100% generic

>>50631297

Damn, I should really pick that up then.

>>50631278
Completely generic. They do come with an Ultramarine and Word Bearer transfer sheet though.

Burning of Prospero is also gneric, except for Ahriman and Not!Bjorn.

>>50631251
Grimoire is kind of a waste most of the time, unless your meta is very daemon-heavy.

Inquisition actually has some nice melee units. Crusaders tank up front, Arco-Flagellants throw out like 6 S5 attacks on the charge, Death Cult strike first and can thin out any dangerous elite MEQ.

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>>50631271
Bless you anon.

>>50631271
thank you anon!

SCANS FOR THE SCANS GOD!EPUBS FOR THE EPUBS THRONE!

but seriously buy it if you can and like it

>>50631099
i've already gone full flamers
it hurts but at least it's a sort of rng fuckery rather than guaranteed fuckery

>>50631286

Is it just me, or are Ruststalkers kind of a trap? Infiltrator rules do seem to at least synergize with Vanguard to turn MEQ caught in melee into GEQ that suffers Instant Death from the Infiltrator's Tasers.

>>50631327
i only bought it because i want to tell gw that they should do more like this and $20 is well worth that

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I'm making an IW list and have no idea what I'm doing. How obvious is it?

>>50631271
hey my picture's catching on. Nice.

>>50631342
>i've already gone full flamers
Well make sure you kill the thing you hit lol. I've just seen what bad rolls did to a tzeentch demon player vs BA and it was funny.

>>50631354
Mentally replace those Havocs with a Hellbrute.

>>50631286

True, but I'm building to a War Convocation and they're what I have available, suboptimal as they may be.

>>50631312
Grim was one of those "I have 5 spare points" upgrades, and there's a fair few daemon and Chaos players on my local GW.
I might pick up some of the Inquisition melee stuff once I've worked through my Admech backlog. Some of it looks really nice.

>>50629601

>IG medium armour halfway between hellhounds and leman russes

surely there is a guard regiment somewhere in the galaxy that uses Predators

>>50631354
Very but I love it. Your CSM squads could have heavy weapons though. Just saying.

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>>50631271
With what program do I read this?

>>50631367
it feels like a horror story but this time the bad guys have the tables flipped on them.

>>50631354

WHERE ARE THE HEAVY WEAPONS ON YOUR HAVOCS

>>50631406
R E A D I U M
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>>50631071
M.A.G.N.E.T.S

Does anyone have a link for the Storm of Damocles novel?

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>>50631427

>>50631419
They were stolen by the Hellbrute I replaced those Havocs with.

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>>50631271

>>50630141
Irishfag here who's bought from their website and eBay store numerous times. Great service (full refund for an arm missing from one miniature of three in a blister). Website's a little cheaper so that's what I use now.

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>>50629455

When will the Roster Creator be updated to include the new traitor legion stuff? It's not up to date yet.

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>>50631271
Why should I pledge myself to all the Chaos Gods if I can just do it with the best one that also gives me the bitches?

>>50631041
The pathfinder on the right looks like he's being abducted by aliens.

>>50630205
>Typhus with no zombies
Also what are you going to run Typhus with?
I normally run him with spawn for sling shitting.
Have a 1250 battle today actually :)

>>50631512

You can pick and choose, it's not all or nothing. Although I haven't seen worshippers of two or three, probably the Gods have their own, but are jealous unless someone pledges to all of them equally.

>>50631512
Because they all have vagina dentata with tooty urethrae probes that makes a herpes swab feel like a gentle breeze.
And within a month you can only get off to nugling scat.

>>50631529
>dug through my drawers and found my old DG and built a list with what they've got

So typhus has no zombies because i have no Zombies, did a test game with him vs daemon summon spam, might have been luck but he tore a bloodshirster and two keepers of secrets apart.

>>50631555
What a great sensation that must be!
I can't really wait to try it

>>50631555
>not fapping to nurgling scat
such a vanilla board here nowadays

Anons, I want to run a Land Raider Redeemer in my army, but I don't know if it's better to just Deep Strike Deathwing termies or not? Like, it'd be fluffier to give my Venerable Dread a drop pod as well, but I don't want to. I know it'd save a good deal of points if I didn't take the LR too.

But it is an AV14 all around metal assault box with TL assault cannon and Flamers of MEQ Melting.

>>50631602
Take 3 in the Land Raider formation then deep strike your deathwing plus dreadnought. Hammer and Anvil their asses.

>>50630049
>Loyalist do tech-heresy better than CSM
Seems about right

Do we know what the new sisters of battle look like yet? do we know what if the penitent engine is still in there

>>50631663

So instead of buying one terrible unit you want him to buy three?

>>50631680
CSM has Heretech Psyker Discipline though.

>>50631701
Go big or go home.

>>50631683
They are still in there. As far as we can tell, the rules are the same, they just included new formations. So Penitent Engines are the same as they have been, which is a shame. They could have been a cool Imperial MC.

>>50631702
Which is a copy of loyalist technomancy

>>50631683

Its not out for another week.

I would be serious money the PE is still in there and even worse than it is now. At this point not even chaos spawn (the old old ones) can claim to be as consistently bad as PE are.

>>50631271
Great thanks anon! may good luck be upon all your dice rolling!

>>50631680

>melta gauntlets are tech heresy
nevermind that dreadnoughts have used them since forever

>>50629880
I can most definitely appreciate rp from orkz, gotta let the handicapped express themselves fully.

>>50631271
May your fortresses never know defeat, anon.

>>50631741
it's still tech-heresy.

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>>50631271
Bless you, bear of the word!

>>50631771
Only when the heretics do it, if marines do it it's 100% ok.

what site do you guys use for books after kat went down?

>>50631597
>>50631585
No you don't, it's not a fun path to be on, a life with constant denial, huge VPN bills, 4 am visits to the darknet, weekly septuple reformats, running OS's off a USB, paranoid fears of raids or ambushes whenever you go home.

Continual escalation is a scary thing, and there is no such thing as a fetish reset, anyone who say otherwise were just dabbling.

>>50631730
>>50631744
shame. oh well, at least there's new stuff, even if it's not changed much it exists.

>>50631799
hypocrisy is the glue that holds the imperium together, anon.

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>>50631404
How's this?

>>50631812

Well word is celestine has been axed so nerfings all around sounds like fun.

>>50631811
>implying Slaanesh doesn't provide all of the content you need to be depraved.
literally summon one daemonette and they'll be kinky enough to keep the party going for month. then it's just a matter of continual daemon-summoning escalation.

>>50631406
>https://mega.nz/#!lYVgWZhZ!K_I8XLUoW6ts3WoMrIBTzkZ7mgTXT3zkj8k4jAK9W7I

More or less the only option is readium for Chrome. The codices are in the rare epub3 format, which very, very few readers support correctly. You'll be able to look at pictures and read words in other readers, but it won't be arranged right, and maps and charts will just straight up be shit. Some of the other epub3 readers will /mostly/ work, but have other issues. Readium is shit on features, but it accurately and faithfully renders these.

>>50631840
First one is free, second will cost you a little, then it's exponential costs until you butcher worlds for just 5 minutes without cravings.

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How?

>>50631394
it'd have to be inquisitorial, wouldn't it?
I thought rhino related stuff is forbidden to IG otherwise?

>>50631877
They don't got no more, dummy, that's how.

Has anyone ever realized that orks are supposedly a melee race and yet are I2?

So GW just printed Index Astartes fluff? What the fuck is that about?

There new additions added in but still this
>The Emperor’s Children were one of the first units to defect to the Warmaster. The Legion’s Primarch, Fulgrim, and his highest ranking officers, were corrupted by the decadent pastimes that Horus and his Chaos-worshippers offered. Drugged, pleasured beyond endurance, and finally broken, they agreed to aid Horus. The rot quickly spread to the whole Legion, and the Emperor’s Children willingly embraced the gratifying worship of Slaanesh.
Is highly different then the recent fluff as had going on?

>Drugged, pleasured beyond endurance, and finally broken, they agreed to aid Horus.
Anyone else getting that Horus raped Fulgrim vibe is back again?

>>50631932
Yup.

And the shit they did on Terra is back too.

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The mistakes we make.

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>>50631751
>Powerfist =/= Dreadnought Powerfist
Innovation and combining existing tech in the way it wasn't designed is heresy

>>50631970

The only mistake there is the thunderfire cannon. Also possibly fabius bike just because of that amusing typo.

>>50631970
Should have bought the plastic Daemon Prince.

>>50631980
But it is a dreadnought.

Tactical Dreadnought.

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>when you read the filename
I feel like that one marine with his helmet off.

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Speaking of purchases, tomorrow I have the chance to get my hands on these two. I've never seen the Lord on the left before. Should I go for it?

>>50631970
Shame on you I bought the limited edition of Fabius's book, I regret nothing

What legion would Diogenes best identify with?

>>50632053

He's the 4th ed terminator chaos lord. Poooooossibly released for cities of death (my memory is hazy).

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>when you order some new sprues off eBay and you look at the mountain of stuff you haven't even removed from their sprues yet

>>50632072
Night Lords. Fuck all of you, fuck social convention, I do what I want.

>>50632020
Is this a joke? The plastic prince looks ridiculous.

>>50632072
>Diogenes
His wiki article is tl;dr.

Assuming he wanted everyone to sacrifice human progresws to become more moral, none of them. He'd be in a Nurgle Renegade Warband. You could use DG rules, though.

Assuming he was in favor of abandoning morality for progress, then IW.

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>>50632116
Looks great to me.

And I don't have to deal with finecast.

Is there somewhere where i can pick up the CSM codex as a PDF? Google doesn't seem to help.

>>50631980

>Innovation and combining existing tech in the way it wasn't designed is heresy

tell that to the Salamanders

>>50632161
The op. Check the second link.

>>50631422
>>50631848
Thx!

does the alpha legion special rule + the lost and the damned special rule mean you can potentially get 2 new cultist squads from one squad being wiped out? my brain

>>50632246
Yep.

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I might be opening up the floodgates of autism here but:

how many personnel are in a "typical" chaos warband? I know they're not really "typical" because they range from a handful of dudes with a small ship and some gear to the fucking black legion, but what would you say is the mean of such numbers? has there been an in-depth explanation of any csm faction like this? does traitor's hate/traitor legions have any new info?

>how many cultists
>how many marines
>how many suits of power armour
>how many suits of terminator armour
>how many bolters, chainswords, plasma guns, melta bombs, etc. in the armory
>what space vessels do they have
>what vehicles, rhinos, land raiders, drop pods and so on

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>>50632132
here's a tld;dr, not of his policies but of his personality

>>50632116
>>50632139
the only thing I don't really like about the plastic prince is most of the heads (nobody ever seens to use the vertical horns one which looks cool, the derpy one is the most popular for some reason maybe because it's on official GW art) and the empty hands, but you can just use the hands with weapons or swap for something else, fielding stock models is boring anyway

>>50632288

The official answer is yes.

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>>50632139
sorry but no, the metal one was better.

I mean, it wasn't great, but the plastic one's awful

Personally? I'm sculpting power armour onto this bastard. Daemon princes should be intimidating

>>50632327

I'd rather zodd the immortal than the play-doh ejaculation you posted.

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>>50631271
You're a good man, anon. I'll axe murder you last.

>>50630205
Seems like a waste to not bring Plague Marines or Plague Zombles in a list with Typhus

>>50631799
There's a reason why it's Marines and not the Mechanicum that do that shit.

It's TOTALLY tech heresy, but the snowflakes can get away with pretty much anything if it kills xenos and heretics.

What are all the GMCs in game currently? Which would a person get the least amount of shit for running?

>>50632288
At least 4
About 20
6 on rotation between the 20
About two thirds, it's missing an arm and the helmet
A goodly number
None, but they're saving up for one
Two metal boxes, but they're not sure how to drive them and none of the gods will loan them a daemon valet until they kill some loyalists

>>50632264
thats crazy

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>>50632403
>>50632264
>>50632246

>>50632288
>cultists
innumerable, easily replacable and they usually join up with a warband as a way of getting above their station, many are lost every battle and many more join up as they travel, so their numbers constantly fluctuate
>marines
Usually about 1-2k or so for one that came about recently, it can go way above that number if the warband is joining up to start a black crusade or something though
>power armour
same as the marines and termies
>terminator armour
depends which legions are in the warband, the iron warriors would probably have more than the night lords, for instance
>armory
really not possible to say, weapons are basically infinite in 40k, and with the dark mechanicus in operation and being traded with pretty much all the time their stocks fluctuate
>space vessels
i'd assume 2-3, or at max 4-5 at peacetime, ships in 40k are huge so 2-3 can usually holdd an entire warband
>vehicles
depends on legion and ties to the dark mechanicus, maybe 200 vehicles in an average warband? maybe a little less.

Tbh anon, there is no average or typical warband, the amount of stuff they have depends on the legions they come from, the gods they worship, etc. For instance, the iron warriors would likely have more siege weaponry than the word bearers, but the word bearers would have more cultists and psykers, but the thousand sons would have the most psykers, etc.

>>50631162
>taufaggot since 04

so you started playing when they were released in 3rd edition and were largely considered broken as fuck

>>50632395
The least cheesy way to run GCs is to spam Skathach Wraithknights

>>50632174
The Mechanicum response to the Salamanders was probably the same as their response to the Blood Angels.

"What's this, innovating with tech? Oh that's cool, OH! Look at all these new-old grav guns we just found"

The Admech are tech hoarding shits, unless they want to show off and make other people look like cunts.

>>50631271
OURS IS THE SONG OF VICTORY

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I was looking to do an aggressive mechanized Tau list, thoughts?

>>50632429
You mean tyranid bio-titans

>>50632412
>>50632327

Talking of these two things, how would you guys make an alpha legion daemon prince? i was thinking of adding one of the dark elf Kybrass heads to the plastic DP model, but am unsure

>>50632327
While that's not a bad model (except for the whip, that almost always suck in a model), it can really work only as a Khorne prince. There is really nothing of the other Gods in that model, and I would find it difficult to give it a Tzeentchy or Slaaneshy feel even with heavy modifications

>>50631327
Honestly, you really should be buying any book that you choose to run something from, if only so you can produce the physical book at the table to clarify a rule/stat for a unit. I've found this makes people way more willing to try new things if they know that what you're running is legit and can physically read it for themselves.

>>50632327
Personally I've never seen a good large demon mini from a third party manufacturer. Sure some of GW's daemons can look bad but that one just looks fucking retarded.

>>50632490

Pathfinders exist for markerlights - they don't need a devilfish.

>>50632497
Personally, I'd not make one at all.

Using daemons as tools and meat is fine, but relying on the warp to sustain you and making oyurself only a guest of the material realm seems a mistake.

>>50632327
With a bit of finagling that can look good.
Not sure what the sculptor thought with that daemonic whip-thing, but it's the shappy paint job that really kills it for me.

>reading some faggot on here
>"hur dur Laurie Goulding say SoS don't exist so they don't!!!"
>"Okay, but, they have rules"
>"d-d-oesn't count!"
>"Okay, but White Dwarf says more are coming"
>"d-doesn't count! That's their opinion!"
>"Okay, but, they also have models and formations and Facebook say they're usable"
>"d-d-oesn't count!!!!"

Well, faggot, the ending of Wrath of Magnus LITERALLY ends with the High Lords sending a message down to the Imperial Dungeon ordering the formation of 'living weapons'. Oh and what picture is right next to this fluff text? A Sister of Silence.

So shut the fuck up, Laurie Goulding is a fucking retard of Black Library has has 0% (ZERO PERCENT) in the decision of 40k lore. He is a monkey made to make crap books and fill shit in for people.

Also, protip, a forum post does not equate fucking proof either, you colossal fucknut.

>mfw I can make my Firestorm Redoubt dual-Battlecannons or dual-Punisher, and can upgrade the Automated Fire to be BS3

Planetary Onslaught is pretty neat.

I was building some chaos space marines lists for alpha legion and emperor's children and was wondering... how the hell do you even kit out the chaos lords?

they always end up as a tax for me because no relic is good enough by itself and basic weapons can't do their job properly since you are never buffed enough to take a power fist and be sure to survive combats/challenges (like chapter masters usually do with shield eternal or ghorgon chains).

for alpha legion I was thinking about either the rending sword or the 3d6 cloak with a terminator chainfist, but I don't even have a good retinue for him.

for emperor's children I was thinking about either the lash or a power fist while putting him on a steed of slaanesh with some spawns.


how do you guys work with lords? should I just give them minimum stuff and consider them a tax to keep the points for better hqs like a daemon prince?

>>50632459
Pretty much. They hate innovation when done by others, but most high-up Magi do plenty of research, and when they come up with something they pass it off as "Inspiration from the Omnissiah".
Also, they're insulted that someone would corrupt the holy design JUST to mount some different guns on it, since they will innovate on a massive scale when absolutely needed.
Just pray you don't piss them off, marines. They make almost everything known to man, and you get slightly better than leftovers.

>>50632575
Its not like there isnt canon precedent, see Kernax Voldorius

>>50632600
Goldberg*

>>50629531
>Should we fix the mountian of core issues with orks?
>Naw lets just release another shit pile model that none of them will have force org slots or points to use because they have to struggle to build a list.

>>50632617
If you wanna spend points on better HQs, why bring a lord at all?

>>50632637

A lot of ork problems would be fixed by a points cut and access to 'eavy armour.

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>>50631271

Your aspects of the Omnsissah known as the "Dark Gods" are intriguing. I may investigate further once I am done with my.... other studies. Our forces will join you shortly. Enjoy Cadia.

(Dark Mechanicus when? Possibly in a year or so.)

>>50632650
Well in the case of Emperor's Children it unlocks Noise Marines as troops

Does anyone know of a decent epub reader on Android? Epubs always look terribad.

>>50632617
terminator armour + claw + combi-weapon
He has everything else he needs to stomp on a squad already.

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>>50629832

I fucking wish it had 2 KMKs or Telyporta kannons. Might actually be almost viable then.

Instead it gets 1 that's twin-linked.

>>50632675
Thanks mate, was looking for a copy of this.

>mfw SoB aren't getting an update
>mfw SoBfags claimed they were
>mfw the 'update' is Imperial Agent merging
>mfw the models are the same shit as usual
>mfw even the GOD BASED ULTRA ALWAYS 100% RIGHT GOD TIER rumourfags and gone "y-y-yeah n--n-no ETA"

You utter fucking melts forget we L I T E R A L L Y had to wait 8 years for the new plastic Eldar Jetbikes. That was 8 years after rumourfags leaked the ACTUAL model.

Just accept, SoB aren't being updated. GW don't give a shit about you. Everybody else, stop pretending they are being updated, it just makes their delusional worse.

>>50632575
thats all well and good, but sometime assestion isnt a choice

also, someone has got to have the Hydra Blade, and ap5 is shit

>>50632686
They are getting an update. The IA codex is not that update. It never was.

More in February. Including plastics.

Calm down.

>>50632650
Not that anon, but for the EC you need you'll want a lord to use the Kacophoni, that is probably going to be the mainstay of most EC armies, since your choice is either to take one CL or take Lucius

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>>50629880
Ork speak is and has long been an exception here newfriend.

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>>50632600
>So shut the fuck up, Laurie Goulding is a fucking retard of Black Library has has 0% in the decision of 40k lore

Look at my image then read this post on B&C.

Random guys post
>DC: in one of the threads here someone mentioned that the whole 'emperor holds back from his favourite son' is being changed. No details but it was apparently Laurie who said it on that forum he visits.

Lauries post
>Right, time to put an end to this sort of thing...
>I've said nothing about anything being changed. Rumour-mongers will have to try harder than that, I'm afraid.
>Much like the Emperor himself, I don't make absolute claims about things that haven't yet happened. I usually preface anything I say about the future of the HH series with "in my opinion, it might be cool if..."

The guys a troll and why people take what he says seriously on his 'echo chamber' website designed to fellate his ego is beyond me.

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>>50632686
Your forgot Saint Celestine living with the squats now

>>50632705
These ultra awesome rumourfags literally said that plastic sisters are no longer coming out in febuary, there is no "ETA".

>>50632725
To be replaced later by plastics. >>50632705

>>50630760
well said, i like you.
Though i think Magnus is overpriced and still will be just gunned down the second he plants his feet on the ground. He cant fight a normal knight without getting d'd or stomped without being able to defend himself. Too expensive and powerful for casual, too expensive and weak for competitive...

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>>50632288
Pic related.

Welp, Im buying into the hype
How does this look for a Sister List?

HQ
Uriah Jacobus
100 pts

Priest x4
x4 Storm Bolter
120 pts

Troops
Battle Sister Squad x9
Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Simulcarum Imperialis
133 pts

Battle Sister Squad x9
Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Simulcarum Imperialis
133 pts

Dedicated Transport
Immolator (Dominion + Jacobus)
Multi Melta, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade, Extra Armour
80 pts

Rhino (Sisters of Silence + Priest)
Extra Armour, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade
60 pts

Rhino (Battle Sisters + Priest)
Extra Armour, Laud Hailer, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade
70 pts

Rhino (Battle Sisters + Priest)
Extra Armour, Laud Hailer, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade
70 pts

Fast Attack
Dominion Squad x5
x4 Meltagun, Combi Melta, Melta Bombs
120 Points

Heavy Support
Retributor Squad (They also get a priest)
Simulcarum Imperialis, x4 Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter
175 pts

Exorcist
Storm Bolter, Laud Hailer
140 pts

Exorcist
Storm Bolter
130 pts

Allies
Sisters of Silence x9
x9 Executioner Greatblade
135 pts

Total: 1,476 pts

>>50632734
Doesn't matter.

>>50632650
for the decurions' tax

>>50632723
Carnac does. But he's a shitposter, so, i wouldn't be surprised if they're the same person. Carnac has EVERY book, so would make sense. It all adds up.