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LOYALIST LEGION SUPPLEMENT WHEN

>>50625572
I believe they called that Angels of Death

>>50625572
> IMPERIAL GUARD REGIMENTS SUPPLEMENT WHEN

Corrected the erroneous statement for you.

Why the fuck did they release traitors hate when this infinitely better book was not even 2 months down the line

>>50625572
>>50625721
>ORK KLAN SUPPLEMENT WHEN

FTFY

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>>50625548
I forsee orks becoming top tier in the next edition.

>>50625734
I agree my greenskinned friend, here, have an earthshaker strike.

>>50625729
I wish I had a retort, but you are right. This really has done nothing but make me feel good about torrenting rules. At this point I'm a little nervous to even buy the traitor legion book in case they do more traitor legion stuff like what they did with the 1k sons

>>50625721
We already do have "Cadian" detachement, it would not be so hard to put in more.

> infiltrating Catachans
> 4+ Going to Ongoing Reservers when destroyed Valhallans
> Close Order Drill Mordians Blobs of Doom
> Bazillion other guard regiments
> Penal Legion Human Bombs...

>>50625742
The Beast was one of the most powerful Ork Warbosses to have ever lived. In 544.M32 he united much of the Ork race and nearly succeeded in conquering the Galaxy.
His Waaagh! was the largest the Galaxy has ever seen and rampaged across the Imperium, eclipsing even the one Horus defeated during the Ullanor Crusade which earned him the title of Warmaster. The Beast was a highly intelligent Ork, capable of speaking flawless Gothic. Embittered by the humiliation of the Ork race during the Ullanor Crusade, he intended to cripple humanity and rule the galaxy.
The Imperium only halted his advance at great cost and desperate measure, devastating the Adeptus Astartes.

In truth there was not a single Warboss known as The Beast. Rather, they were a collection of six "Prime-Orks", monstrously powerful and intelligent Warbosses who each commanded a "Legion" (possibly Clan) of Greenskins.

>GW or FW need to make The Beast

Any idea how to make a good greatcoat Stromtroopers? Sell a kidney and mutilate Krieg Granadier models? Find million monopose Cadian Command squad legs and stick them on Scions models?

I want similiar look as one artwork in Inquisitor rulebook, which I cannot find now, for fucks sake.

>>50625748

Don't. Because as soon as you sit on it for a few months they'll release something newer.

t. someone who bought 5E C:SM and 6E DV mini rulebook just to have all of them replaced multiple times. Luckily I was smart enough never to buy a book again after that.

>>50625785
I am about to listen the Beheading audio anon. The Beast Arises was a bit bumpy, but still enjoyable ride. From Imperium stealing the Ork grav-tech (suck it muhreens), through the Ambassadorks to the Beast worshiping Digga-like cults. I have high hopes for the last book.

>>50625785
Dis iz now a ork thred

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>>50625798
Wy do U lizten to a bok U grot ?

>>50625826
I dunno why, but from the thumbnail, it looks like a girl with short redish blonde hair in armor with black face paint over her eye area, like Furiousa. Opening it is so wildly different.

>>50625548
Bring back Penal Legions already!

Were 10 Guardsmen too OP with Outflank?

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>>50625842
i can fix yo eyes hummie, mak it cybernetik

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IF THIS POST GETS DUBS PLASTIC SISTERS ARE NOT COMING. OTHERWISE THEY ARE CONFIRMED!!!

>>50625826
Because it is heresy.

>>50625866
well i fucked myself... i hate me

>>50625787
They will be Alphic Hydras.

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>>50625548
>Genestealers closing in on my platoon
>ohfugbetterFirstRankFire
>pass order
>eh what the hell, let's roll the autocannons first
>they all hit
>they all wound
>Genestealers get pasted by the autocannons before the 72 las gun shots can even be rolled
>ImperialGuardproblems.jpg

Well huh, eh, mustve been a fluke

>next turn, same platoon is facing down some super monster thing with a torrent flamer
>"eh lets use Bring it down, he's tough enough my autocannons/plasma wound on 3's"
>all the plasmas but 1 hit, all wound without rerolls
>Don't even get to roll the autocannons because the plasmas decided to nuke the sumbitch into next week

Jesus I forgot just how much fire platoons put out, that was stupid. Well at least they definitely proved they were ready to be painted the rest of the way, they just refused to miss their shots.

>The monstrous creature 's face when he realized he was in double tap range of 4 monster hunter plasma guns

>>50625861
Your heretech cannot fix time, greenskin. Believe me, Ordo Chronos tried.

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>>50625787
you mean this guy?

There's no happy, easy option. You scratch-build/heavily convert or you don't bother.

The pilot from battle for macragge has the same armor, but you won't get much from a mono-pose plastic character

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Playing a 1250 game tomorrow, rate my list plz.
Using new Traitor Legions book as well (which only really affects the oblits I guess).
The helbrute and zombies down the bottom are apart of a Helcult formation, which isn't showing up on list builder.

>>50625908
>https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/gaming_and_diversion/Warhammer_40K_Collection/Warhammer%2040k%20-%20Inquisitor%20-%20The%20Living%20Rule%20Book%201.1%20(Part%20II).pdf

Guys from the page 44. Even worse, but I am looking for something in the spirit of this artwork, rather than the literal representation. Yes, I am already very sad.

What about Skitarii/Vanguard coats? Has anybody some experience with them?

>>50625572

NEW CRAFTWORLD SUPPLEMENT WHEN

also
WYCHES SUPPLEMENT WHEN

also
EXODITES CODEX WHEN

>>50625942

All of these will happens before orks

>>50625942
Lolnever

Goodbye Tau and Eldar OPness, say hello to Orks OPness come 8th edition

Gotta sell them OP armies to WAACfags after all, and what better to do that then shift power.

Also its going to be an assaulty/vehicle edition, so everyone has to build different stuff.

>>50625952

>Exodites

highly unlikely anon. Orks actually get a new codex every few editions.

>>50625959

I left out the important part, apologies

FW will be doing it.

>>50625929
OH I forgot to say, I run Typhus with the spawn. Most fun thing to do in 40k for me.

>>50625958

>Wyches
>OP

kek they're literally the worst unit in the game. Orks are better.

>>50625963

That sounds more possible. Boy I sure can't wait to pay $500 for a laser dinosaur!

>>50625932

The coats are a part of the body, and each body will fit with only one of the legs as a result.

You *could* use them, but it'll be rather obvious that their bodies and legs are Skitarii.

>>50625969

Its a steal at that price!

Ork friend and I actually had a fight my wych cult against his speed freaks and it was a very fun game.

not one armour save was taken that whole game

>>50625999
>my wych cult

What would possess you to do this? Is it a holdover from 5E or something?

>>50625932
https://madrobotminiatures.com/
https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_21

enjoy

>>50625999

Yes, it was either that or I fought him with my covens list, and that's just not fun with all those leadership modifiers against orks.

>>50626014
>>50626020

accidentally quoted myself instead of you

>>50625966
>Slow and purposeful infantry character runs with the fleet beasts
>this triggers the CSM player

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>Wake up early
>Check GW site to see if it's been updated to order Canoness
>Fall back asleep for an hour
>Sold out

If I go to my local GW store, do I have a chance of ordering one or does sold out online mean sold out?

>Imperial agents codex does nothing but remove units from my army list
>There's no new plastic models
>The one new RESIN model sold out to eBay resellers before I'd even refreshed the pre-order page

Welp, guess I can stay away from GW for another few years at least.

More money to spend on the kingdom death kickstarter.

>>50626052

you have a chance

>>50626052
sisters are gone forever

you had your last chance to buy and you blew it

>>50625929
>Using new Traitor Legions book as well (which only really affects the oblits I guess).

Well if you want you can have 16 point Plaguemarines in all but name, that'd save you 112 points.

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>>50625958
Orks confirmed best 8th army.

>>50626052

I was f5ing the page from before pre-orders went live and I didn't get any, so don't kick yourself for sleeping through

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>>50626087

>>50626042
>CSM Player
>Doesn't know about slingshotting Typhus with Chaos Spawn.

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>>50626099

>3

>>50626110
One to paint as my order, one to do like the artwork, and one to sit in its box on my shelf next to my arbites army

>>50626102
i play alpha legion, so i dont deal with filth: do you make a conga line, and charge with the spawn

>>50626102
>>Doesn't know about slingshotting Typhus with Chaos Spawn.

99.99% of /tg/ doesn't know how to play 40k well. I'm not kidding when I say you, me, and probably one other guy on this board knows about things like LoS sniping, LoS overwatch dodging, and increasing distance to get into assault.

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>>50626062
Something more like this?
Not sure I like the fact they don't have plague knives... But this does look stronger.

>>50626151
plague knifes and blight grenades are not worth S&P and 8 points

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>>50626121
I recently bought a bunch to use as inquisitorial retinue.

also

>soon to be available £25 Immolators
Feel bad for the schmucks who paid twice that for them on ebay, but mostly just smug that I did't

>>50626151
Yeah.

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>>50626162
>>50626169
Thanks fa/tg/uys, I am glad I came here.
Posted my Typhus :)

>>50626147
I think that percentage is unfair, but I get your point :D

>>50625929
what program is that you're using?

>>50626181
he look fine! fine and filthy!

>>50626182
heavy-r.com
Best free list maker I have found yet.

>>50626187
Thank you friend :)

I am really hoping for a new Typhus model with the revamps next year.

And also for Typhus riding a Glottkin in our upcoming 40k end times ;)

>>50626147
Well, i am glad you managed to find a new way to feel superior to those around you

>>50626212
>new
>implying

You shits have been saying 40k is "easy" and "braindead" since 6th edition, when focus fire tricks still existed, when you don't even know the tactics I'm referring to that allow you to play 40k better.

>>50626055
You so realise, that Imperial Agents ARE NOT the new SoB Codex? As they are not the new GK and DW codex?

>>50626231

Read the reviews of it, it has the full army list, Sans Celestine

Just been to my local GW and they're in the same boat as people online, the Canoness never even appeared as available on their system before selling out despite the fact they were meant to get some in store. That's damn quick.

>>50626162
Plague Marines aren't SnP, neither is Typhus.

>>50626231

Except it is because it has the full list plus formation?

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Post your favourite traitor legion

>>50626287
Stop-gap measure. As well as the Inquisition.

You of little faith.

>>50626293
All those are loyal, to themselves.

>>50626295

You are obviously not a SoB player.

>>50626283
DG player from above, oh you are right, its relentless that they get
>Inexorable Advance: Units that have the Veterans of the Long War special rule have the Relentless Special Rule.

>Relentless: Relentless models can shoot with Heavy, Salvo or Ordnance weapons, counting
as stationary, even if they moved in the previous Movement phase. They are
also allowed to charge in the same turn they fire Heavy, Ordnance, Rapid Fire
or Salvo weapons.

>>50626295

The last "stop-gap" we had the WD Codex that lasted 3 years.

This is the Codex. The new plastics will be for these units.

>>50626299

Why the fuck does their entire army get +1T and relentless instead of SnP?

>>50626299
Sorry, green text fails

>>50626308
Because S&P is what Thousand Sons get.

>>50626313
I'll swap you k?

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>>50625734

Considering this is what GW classifies as Kult of Speed, I'm quite certain i don't want to see a Klan supplement anytime soon.

>Snakebite Detachment
>Core: Dread Mob

>>50626319
If you agree to have your entire line of new plastics and rules removed and go back to a single resin and plastic combo set.

>>50626313

>psychic powered undead robots are slow
>rotting flesh is unrelenting

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>>50626313


> whole squad can take flamers

>S&P

>>50626325
how is it not a cult of speed, everyone in trukks with big guns and lots of bikers with a plane over the top.
Looks like something straight out of Mad Max fury road.

>>50626296
>loyal to themselves

>Dark Angels vs Fallen Angels
>Ahriman's only recently healed schism
>Typhus betrayed and condemned Moratarion and his legion
>Kharn is literally famous for being a "betrayer"

>>50626334
Lootas are heavy.

>>50626319
No thanks, you can keep your spooky dust marines (which should be slow, considering they are just a walking set of armour lrn2fluff).

>>50626333
Gdubs trolling at it's finest.

>>50626343
>Ork players crying that GW gave them one of their strongest units in a formation

Sounds about right.

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>>50626333

>squad has SnP
>each model can take a flamer
>7ppm

>>50626353
It's not a formation.

>>50626356
Its ok man just add another 75 sorcerer tax with this 20 point relic. Then you can pay another 70 points for the warpflame flamers to give them +1 FNP.

>>50626360
oh my bad, carrying on whining then.

>>50626334

There isn't a single Trukk in that image.

Lootas are also not Speed Freak/Kult of Speed. They're aligned with Deffskullz, since they like to loot stuff. Flash Gitz are Bad Moons aligned, because that's the richest klan.

Iconic Kult of Speed units are as follows:

- Aircraft (check)
- Trukks
- Deffkoptas
- Buggies
- Bikers (check)

Battlewagons are a bit of a tough one because they're not fast, but they are vehicles.

In any case, that above bundle includes stuff that isn't iconic to Kult of Speed and misses out on some of the most pivotal stuff.

>>50626369
I'm no whining, I'm correction your various mistakes.

>>50626368

>what a bargain!
>Thousand Sons are really good guys!

I'm so glad NL got some decent shit

>>50626368
>>50626356
They should just have the old wraithsight rule now that wraiths are done with with.

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>>50626356
>>50626368

>>50626386

They also shouldn't cost 30 points for a SNP flamer. They already paid their lower AP tax with 23ppm base.

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>>50626403

especially when it gives out FnP

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Plastic sisters still coming.

I'll be right.

>>50626429
That is an "oh shit" comment from Lady Atia
>plastic sisters coming soon... relatively...

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>>50626429

>no ETA

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>>50625866
All acording to the plan

>>50625866
Undervalued fail.

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>>50626429

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>>50626052

>>50626488
>First Captain Barok Les'Nar hears some heresy

>>50626506
In my country it's still available

>tau commander gets instant death'd by a melta gun
There's no way these guys are actually worth the points, right?

>>50626509

>Brock not being a Daemon Prince of Khorne

>>50626605

The trick is avoid the shit that can ID you then, you fucking fool.

>>50626377
>Implying those units are unique to those clans only

More common, yes, not unique

>>50625572
Not sure if....

>Everyone starting Death Guard
>Played Death Guard since 3rd ed

reee normies get out of my legion

In the Kakophanii formation, do you reckon it is better to run with 3 or 6 units of noise marines?
6 very quickly becomes most of your army, but the bonus is pretty nice. On the other hand, I am more than happy with Split-Fire and Shred in 3-4 squads of 6 Noise Marines.

>>50626632

I never said they were unique, I said certain units are aligned with particular klans, and that they are iconic for those klans. A Deffskull boxset should contain Lootas. A Goff bundle should have Nobz. And so on.

The Speed Freakz bundle, as I said, has some iconic units. But it also has two (Lootas and Flash Gitz) that simply aren't iconic to Speed Freaks no matter how much you cut it. Is it inconceivable that a Speed Freakz Warboss hired some Lootas and Gitz to do some long range dakka for him? Of course not; Orks do that sort of thing all the time. It's just that they're not iconic units.

Look at is this way. Say GW put up an Iron Warriors bundle. In it was a Warpsmith, an Obliterator, and a box of Possessed. Now, it's not that Iron Warriors would never use Possessed. But they're certainly not an iconic Iron Warriors unit.

Rumour: Inquisitors have lost Servo Skulls.

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>>50626645

Word Bearer

>>50626659
I heard only canonesses and battle sisters will be included in the new agents book, all other SoB units are being phased out.

>>50626659
>LaughingFatPatriarch.jpg

>>50626670
Nah, we know everything but Celestine is in there.

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>>50626669
>Want to start EC
>Have to choose between having noise marines, ap2 weapons and DUDE, COMBAT WEED, LMAO

>>50626688
>choose
why

What'a your power ranking for the chaos legions?

>death guard
>emperor'a children
>alpha legion
>night lords
>Black legion
>iron warriors
>world eaters
>thousand sons
>word bearers

>>50626688

If you are choosing, you are doing it wrong anon

Embrace the excess

>>50626707
All that, but change out WB and TSons.

>>50626707

thousand sons and word bearers dependent on if magnus and/or horrors are in list.

>>50626707

>Death Guard
>Alpha Legion
>Emperor's Children
>World Eaters
>Black Legion
>Iron Warriors
>Night Lords
>Word Bearers
>Thousand Sons

>>50626723
>>Death Guard
.
.
.


.
>>Alpha Legion
>>Emperor's Children
>>World Eaters
>>Black Legion
>>Iron Warriors
>>Night Lords
>>Word Bearers
>>Thousand Sons

>>50626707
Iron warriors are so shit? Really? Is tank hunters, obj secured troop oblits and a dash of fnp worth so little?

>>50626743

Tank Hunters, in an edition where tanks aren't the immediate must-take they used to be.

ObSec Oblits are good, but they're still 70pts a model.

6+ FNP is negligible.

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>tfw WE rules are all that you wanted and more when you first started playing CSM

>>50626743

and stubborn and 20 point fearless.

>>50626766
20pt fearless is from a ruin yeah? Possibly a down side as it means no going to ground! Doh !

Has anyone already posted the new rules for the traitor legions? If so can someone link this poor cunt as I couldn't find it

>>50626770
>ruin
Nope, fortification

>>50626779
What fortification is 20 pts? Manufactorum?

>>50626774
1d4chan CSM tactics page.

>>50626783
fuck if i knowl

>>50626783

Yes, the manufactorum.

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>>50625734

>Klans supplement will never be reality

I bet humies did this

Anr hurricane bolters on a Blackstar ever worth the points?

Debating whether it's worth magneticing

>canoness out of stock

Now THATS what I call heresy.

>Lost and the Damned formation
>Add Typhus

My fucking sides, I have created a zombie apocalypse

>>50626755

>Tank Hunters, in an edition where tanks aren't the immediate must-take they used to be.

>in an edition where knights and free rhino are a thing

learn about the game before posting please!

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>>50626813
>first SoB model come out in years
>no one can buy it

>>50626826
>Alpha Legion Lost and the Damned

>Seperate Typhus detachment

Double respawn cultist zombies?

>>50626839
>>50626813
She'll be back.

>>50626723
>Someone needs a taste of Magnus's D

If you run Magnus and an allies detachment of Herald of Tzeentch ML3 and two units of 11 horrors to power him does it even matter what else you add?

>>50626839
>>no one can buy it
Obviously people HAVE bought it.

>>50626849
Each only affect their own detachment.

>>50626826
Too bad you can't get Necrosius instead.

>>50626853

SoB sales have never been this high! In fact when I bought my SoB I was responsible for my local GW quadrupling their immolater sales for 2 months. Amusingly I didn't buy any in the 3rd month so a load of immolaters that were sent to sell sat on the shelf for years.

>>50626774
Actual pics are here:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1469
and here:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1468

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>>50625866
>>50625866
kek

>>50626881
>>50626785
Cheers

>>50626827

>My meta is how the entire game is played everywhere
>I'm new enough that I didn't play during 5th ed

>>50626905
Well, if they Traitor Legions ever comes out as a 5th ed supplement, We'll be sure to ask for your expertise.

>>50626913

You have zero reading comprehension.

If an IC is attached to a unit and the enemy kills every model except for the IC does it count as a unit destroyed for firstblood and kill points?

>>50626871
Because the army contains higher price very old metal miniatures AND the army isnt for sale in the shops.

>>50626926

He understood perfectly, that is why he is making fun of you.

>>50626926
No, if i had zero I would not have been able to reply to tone nor content, I just ignored the subtext.

>>50626939
Yes you retard.

Even confirmed in the FAQ for spastics like yourself.

>>50625584
>>50625733
There are a lot of problems with the Psychic Phase beyond just Witchfires being, in general, crappy.

>Most of the disciplines are unfocused messes.
Having random power generation could be okay, but you need to be able to at least have some idea of what your psyker can do. You can throw two dice at Pyromancy and end up with two Blessings and a Heavy Flamer. You can throw two dice at Biomancy and up with nothing but Witchfires. There are a lot of disciplines with one or two interesting powers with lots of utility that are surrounded by spells that have no relation in function or effect that make going for the utility powers a gamble (Telekinesis and Leviation for example). Thousand Sons feel the pain of this issue a lot, since their psykers are all forced to throw away a Mastery Level on Tzeentch and the Tzeentch table itself is a mess of functions.

>Psykers have diminishing returns.
The vast majority of psykers aren't efficient enough to cast a total Warp Charge Cost worth of powers equal to their Mastery Level. This means that in order for a psychic focused army to succeed, they have to spam battery psykers to let their actual casters operate (Daemons), or they have to take a small number of psykers in a formation that makes them ultra efficient (Librarius Conclave and its derivatives). Once again, Thousand Sons feel this issue a lot. Both of their core formations come with a minimum four psykers, and all of their psyker-boosting formations come with additional four psykers. Eight psykers (in the form of T4 characters) is just way too many psykers for any reasonably sized game. Many of those psykers (Aspiring and Scarab Occult Sorcerers) are significantly less efficient than the others, making it even harder for them to do what you're paying significant points for.

>TBC

>>50626991

>Power balance is very poor.
The majority of powers are actually quite mediocre. This is true of Witchfires and non-Witchfires alike. Witchfires feel it more acutely since every faction has guns that can replicate most psychic shooting attacks, but many Blessings and Maledictions aren't in and of themselves worth running psykers for either. Nobody takes 300 points in Libby Conclave Librarians to cast Terrify and Hallucination. Most psyker builds are focused around diving for a handful of specific and incredibly powerful force multiplier spells (Veil of Time, Invisibility, Perfect Timing, etc) or they're just based around spamming Summoning spells. The Tzeentch Discipline is a very good example of this. The Primaris is generally never worth casting. Boon is actually never worth casting. Siphon Magic is situationally worth casting, but is often a dead draw. Treason of Tzeentch and Breath of Chaos are both situationally good, but their high warp charge cost means that you'll often be better off casting multiple cheaper powers. Bolt of Change and Baleful Devolution are both great.

>>50626994
>>50626991
Psykers should have a "overreach" thing, where they can attempt to draw on more power than they can safely handle in exchange for larger perils chance.

Also Miscast > Perils

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Rate my list lads.

Coming back to the game after over 10 years not active.

I like Banshees. Not necessarily competitive, and i don't like the idea of WK's.

>>50627013

The real problem is the perils chart is basically a straight up buff or has virtually no downside due to most psykers being LD9 or 10.

>>50626707
>Thousand Sons with Magnus
>death guard
>emperor'a children
>alpha legion
>night lords
>world eaters
>Black legion
>iron warriors
>word bearers
>Thousand sons without Magnus

Spots 4-7 and 8-9 are a bit up in the air. Yes, Magnus is THAT powerful. Any game with Magnus in it is decided on the top of the first turn. Either the enemy goes first and manages to kill him before he buffs up and takes off, or he will fly around the table, blasting whole swaths of the enemy army with the D.

>>50627023
Don't bother with wave serpents for banshees.
The turn or movement they gain is lost by the turn they spend disembarking and standing about doing nothing.

>>50627023

Its going to be a motherfucker to get those banshees into combat. Plus your anti-tank is basically nonexistant.

>>50627039
Fire Dragons and D-Cannons?

>>50627023

Why no Wraithknights or bikes?

>>50627046
Because nobody will play against me

>>50627030
Yes, we need Miscast
1-1 big bad rapetastic failure.

6-6 immense success, at a terrible price.

Sadly Miscast gives penalties and we all know that "In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium remembering things is hard and add an intolerable abound of seconds to game turns."

>>50627030
Yeah, that's why Eldar Far Seers will NEVER burn a Warp Charge to avoid rolling on the Buffs of the Warp table.

Oh, wait, it's the opposite. You're a perfect example of the biggest issue with the psychic phase. Half the playerbase regards it with the same ignorant fear that in-universe Imperials regard actual psykery.

>>50627055

doesn't double out elder is why? I know with my nids I don't care if I peril.

>>50627055
>Half the playerbase regards it with the same ignorant fear that in-universe Imperials regard actual psykery.
Woah, dude

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>Orks will never have a Squiggoth army

>>50625548
for some reason the .epub codexes wont display right on my epub reader (firefox), I never have issues normally. no titles in the contents and the text is really small. any ideas guys?

>>50627061

doesn't it*, getting tired I guess

>>50627055
Magnus, please go and stay go.

>>50627065
I would really enjoy that

>>50626980
Sorry, didn't realize typing was such an ordeal for you. So what about characters? If one were somehow to become attached to a unit? Such as with Corsairs.

>>50627042

Fire dragons are a one shot wonder and D cannons have limited range and are generally vulnerable to anything fast.

>>50627055

You're a dipshit. Perils of the warp is meant to represent the warp itself deciding to skull fuck you this day. Most of the time a simple LD check and nothing happens.

>>50627118
A independent character is a unit that can join a unit.

If one unit dies you get first blood and a kill point. Now with this in mind what do you think happens?

>>50627120
>TFW the WAAAAAGH decides to 'eadbang you and you have 7 ld.

Are the traitor legion rules in battle scribe yet?

>>50627127
I assume it would be the same case and that's the ruling I would go with if I had to decide on the spot. But the FAQ doesn't state it anywhere. And it's hard to tell what RAI is these days with all the weird decisions GW makes.

>>50627141
Yep, gotta update the files though.

>>50627132

Which is a major reason why weirdboys suck in comparison to other psykers. That said i'd have no problem with weirboyz exploding if their pwoers were powerful enough to justify it.

Death Guard heavy bolter havocs are actually pretty damn fun. Autocannons are obviously a better choice, but just spewing buckets of S5 shots on the move is still funny as fuck.

>>50627172
I fucking love Weirdboys.

>>50627120
>You're a dipshit. Perils of the warp is meant to represent the warp itself deciding to skull fuck you this day. Most of the time a simple LD check and nothing happens.
See, ignorant retardation in-line with the antics of a deliberately dystopian hellhole.

4/6 perils results cause a wound with no saves allowed. 2/6 always cause a wound AND do something else bad. 1/6 forces a leadership check to not immediately die AND cause additional wounds to your unit. 1/6 does nothing, and 1/6 forces a leadership check and hurts you if you fail and buffs you if you pass it.

Perils suck. The majority of the time it is going to punch your psyker straight in the nads, and the odds of Perils occurring are quite high for anything above WC1.

>>50627173
Death guard Purge detachment the new standard? Why take normal bolters when you can go super size

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what do you guys use for undercoat?
Imperial Primer paint or spray paint?
Personally i think i would prefer non-spray cause i have no good place to spray the models...
is there much of a difference?

>>50627197
>Death guard Purge detachment the new standard? Why take normal bolters when you can go super size
No T6 FNP plague bikers.

>>50627198
Try Vallejo black primer. It comes in big bottles too, I really like it.

Brush priming vehicles will test the limits if your patience though

>>50627205
Yes that is a significant disadvantage. I guess you can't have your plague cake and eat it too. An entire army of plague havocs would be refreshing to see

>>50627198
Vallejo Surface Primer (Black) is the best I've ever used.

Its designed for airbrushes so its the perfect consistency, but I only apply it with a brush anyway.

>the Khornetaur is only available in Chaos Decurions as part of the Trinity of Blood
Holy shit, I know that nobody on Earth actually owns three of that retarded piece of shit, but there are definitely people out there that own one and can't even use the damn thing with the rest of their army.

>>50627217

I own 2, I would by a 3rd for the formation if they fixed the damn thing.

Would chaos legions still have the occasional surviving suit of Cataphractii armour? Because I kinda want my Death Guard terminator lord to wear it.

>>50627233
All of them

So do we have Traitors whatever the fuck its called, scans yet?

>>50627238
Lol who still has a scanner.

>>50627171
Annoyingly, they're wrong. It's charging me ten points to take veterans of the long war in an alpha legion formation.

>>50627238
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1468

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1469

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1470

>>50627238
Buy it yourself poorfag if you can't be arsed to even know it's name fuck off

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>H-H-HEY GUISE! PLASTIC SOB SOON! LOOK LOOK! A SUPER ULTRA MEGA HYPER LIMITED RELEASE MODEL! THAT PROVES IT! ALSO LOOK! LOOK! THE MODELS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR STORE! SOB CONFIRMED!
>[Le Next Day]
>[Le SoB are redumped back into the website, the Canoness is sold out in minutes of going live and the Imperial Agents book is advertising SoB specifically and the models are part of the 'preorder' section]


HAHAHAHAHAHA. I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO. MEME ARMY BTFO.

>>50627233
Death Guard mainly used their own customised pattern.

>>50625787
I'd suggest going for third party bits, maybe Victoria Miniatures, Mad Robot, Maxmini or Anvil Industries have something?

>>50627253
>Atia has reduced her assertion of plastic sisters to "probably" at some point in the future
I've gotta ask, you poor twisted grognards that actually play Sisters, which is stronger? The disappointment of having your own secret hopes of a new dawn dashed? Or the vindication of being right about this being nothing more than the annual "plastic sisters are totes coming guys"?

>>50627252

You don't talk to me that way.

>>50627253

If you're quick, you can still delete your post before we all see how you're embarrassing yourself.

>>50627253
>A SUPER ULTRA MEGA HYPER LIMITED RELEASE MODEL!

She ain't a limited release, at all.

And literally no one said Plastic Sisters in January. All rumours are between January and like July, for one of them.

I still say February.

So plastic sisters soon, Anon!

>>50627253

>>50626429

>>50627066
Kill yourself
This issue has been addressed in every fucking general for the last 2 years if you can't be fucked to remember you should drink thick bleach

>>50627281
>december, not january.

Fuck's sake, I can't write.

>>50627253
>le

I think this canoness model might be the first time I have seen something go up for preorder on gws site and sell out so fast. It was already gone at 10:00 this morning.

>>50627253
Congratulations on the most autistic post this thread!

Sadly, this is not s memorable achievement. In time, someone will reach higher autism levels than you. They probably already have, somewhere else on this site. In time even that will be supplanted. You see, as with most things in your life, the human race will move on, improving itself past your bitterness, your failure, leaving you to die a cold death, alone, clutching your space wolves miniatures in your thick, globular hands.

>>50626707

>Nights Lords near the top

What did he mean by this?

>>50627275
Exactly. I fucking told you chucklefucks going

>y-you're s-s-tupid not to suck the cock of these GOAT rumour leakers! THEY'RE NEVER WRONG!

>>50627281
She is limited though, because she sold out in minutes. McDonalds don't run out of Big Macs to sell, so Big Mac's aren't a limited release. But they did run out of McRibs.

>b-b-but more will come of her!

Yeah cause GW like money and didn't realise an iconic picture being made into a model will get even non-meme army hobby people wanting it.

>>50627283
That's her covering her tracks. "No ETA". Literally could mean 2025.

I told you it isn't coming, you told me rumourfags are NEVER wrong.

>>50627294
Wew. Not an argument.

>>50627303
Mate, don't fucking reply if you're just going to post a load of off-topic shit. I'll be nice and not report you. Either fucking discuss my post, or don't reply. Pretty fucking simple. SoB aren't coming. The rumourfags were mistaken. The fact the SoB range is back for preorder proves this.

Can the HH plastic marines be used in 40k as normal marines without issue or are they equiped differently enough that I'd have to explain what everything counts-as?

Because I'm getting both the boxed games for Christmas and honestly I'd rather have an army then four seperate mini groups for the odd occasion I can rope in someone to play against.

>>50627331

They're equipped with bolters, you mong. What needs explaining?

>>50627303
>>50627281
>>50627280
Shit, no need to get so salty about being naive, newfriends.

This is pretty much an annual occurrence for the WH40k community. If I had to guess, Atia (or her source) have seen new plastic Sisters, but the higher-ups are deciding to sit on them for a while. Maybe they want to see what sells in this most recent release in order to gauge what else to redo in plastic.

Shit, the Eldar Jetbikes plastics were leaked like eight years before their actual release.

>>50627323
>She is limited though, because she sold out in minutes. McDonalds don't run out of Big Macs to sell, so Big Mac's aren't a limited release.

Anon, that's not what a limited release means.

>>50627323
I want you to know, bitter anon, that it isn't too late. Stop posting and get outside. Take up geocaching! Explore this wonderful earth. Lift weights Get a face book, get tinder. Swipe while geocaching in new areas. You'll meet someone, if you try.

But you've got to believe you're worth it.

Stop feeding the cancer, starve it.

>>50627288
I'm new to the game..........

>>50627355
Rule 1: Lurk more.

I have:
20 Plague Marines/Nurgle-marked csm,
3 oblits,
a Heldrake,
10 Noise marines,
a Daemon Prince
10 Cultists,
a Hellbrute,
a Lord on foot.

What should I buy next? Termies look promising with the new DG rules

>>50627363
Termies, bikers, maybe raptors.

>>50627362
this isn't /b/ dickhead

>>50627354
>oh shit, this guy is calling me out on the fact SoB plastics aren't coming! Shit, I was wrong.. I KNOW. I'll call him CANCER or SHITPOSTER. I win! I learned this from history! Always insult the other side first!

Fuck off. Some people can manage to have a discussion with me without being a prick.

>>50627347
But it does. How do we know it'll come back? It might come back in 6 months and sell out again.

>A limited edition is a work of art, such as a book which is only produced in very small numbers, so that each one will be valuable in the future.

And it's sold out because there was barely any stock. Ergo it's a LE.

>>50627066
I think it's the drm they use. I've only ever been able to get them working in adobe dc reader.

Which sucks. If anyone has a proper, open source way to read it, I'm all ears.

>>50627355
Try Readium for Chrome, the other anon is being a dick

>>50627363
Fill out your Warband. Grab some heavy weapon troopers for the havocs, pick a fast attack choice (bikers are the best bet, although Nurgle Raptors are a solid choice as well), and start getting the Rhinos together. Then, pick an auxiliary unit.

>>50627377
Which if why why should learn the ropes before doing a powervault in.

>>50627379
>Be prick
>Complain when people are pricks back

Okay, good one. Here's you (you).

>>50627379
Nagash sold out too the day it was released
Was it LE too?

>>50627379
www facebook com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1735171233470175&id=1575682476085719&substory_index=0

>We had a lot of questions about this new Canoness yesterday (no huge surprise there, we know lots of you have been faithfully waiting a long time for a new Battle Sister).

>A lot of you were worried that you wouldn’t be able to get hold of one, but don’t worry; we don’t want any of you to miss out. While she’s going to be in stores for a limited time (from the 17th) she will be available to order direct from our online store for the foreseeable future, so you’ll all have the chance to add this heroine to your collection.

>The Emperor protects

This is how we know.

>>50627393
are you drunk?

>>50626905
>he thinks i didn't play during 5th ed , where mech was king
>he thinks 5th had anything on the modern meta
>he thinks free rhinos arent ubiquitous
Know something about anything before posting please!

>>50627363
>>50627373
>>50627390

Oh, and I wanna make full use of the new Legion rules: everything, but PM/Noises will be (I'm repainting) painted in a god-neutral scheme and cult troops will have conversion work, with god-specific colored shoulder pads.

So I'll be playing as either DG, or EC for now, but I wanna get Khorne csm later on and get some taste of WE too (not ruling out trying out other legions, just not painting for them)

In the uk you can now pre order again

>>50627394
Good. You're totally helping. Don't reply next time. Really simple, but then again, autistic people can't resist replying. It's encoded in their genes. Poor things. You'll probably reply to this. Don't do it. But, alas, autism prevents people following simple instructions. Such is life.

>>50627396
False equivilence. Nagash was a model built specifically for The End Times. We knew he wouldn't be limited. Veridyian is a model production of Blanche's artwork, for an army that is STILL all metal (and the most expensive on store) and since SoB haven't had an update in, what, 15 years? You're totally believing that GW is going to produce more?

>>50627404
>stores for a limited time
>n-n-not limited edition!

But, if that's true, fair enough. Doesn't fix the fact that the 'based god rumourfags who are NEVER wrong', were, you know, wrong.

>>50627430
>but PM/Noises will be (I'm repainting) painted in a god-neutral scheme and cult troops will have conversion work, with god-specific colored shoulder pads.

You can't have PM and Nose Marines in the Traitor Legions army. Except Black Legion.

>>50627444
Give up dude, they're already back. >>50627437

And limited in stores =/= limited release

>>50627444
>she will be available to order direct from our online store for the foreseeable future
Don't be an idiot

>>50627430

>So I'll be playing as either DG, or EC for now

The Gods look upon your apostasy with anger.

This is how one ends up a Fury.

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/12/10/codex-imperial-agents-review/

Not much new information.
>In this section you will find a detachment that lets you take a single Ministorum priest, as well as a new detachment for the girls in armor called the “Vestal Task Force”. Which has the ability to give all units in the detachment the ability to reroll any saving throws of 1 once in a game.

>The Inquisitorial Detachment got better: You can only take 1 Inquisitor in this new Inquisitorial Representative detachment, instead of 2. But you still get the 0-3 elite slots, and a cool new command benefit which lets your Inquisitor generate a warlord trait even if they’re not your warlord. Nice!
>One special issue wargear seems to be missing. Servo-Skulls are nowhere to be found on any of the Inquistor’s profiles, or in the SI wargear section. This is huge, and will effect the meta the most.

>>50627444
And no, not wrong, because everyone was saying January-April not fucking December.

>>50627341
The eldar jetbike, by admission of the sculptor himself all the way back when it was first 'leaked' was not the fucking sculpt. I was a test sculpt done for a potential redesign that never happened.
Which is why GW had it on open display at the games day in question.
As part of a larger display showing off other unused test sculpts and stuff the sculptor did in his free time.

The actual modern jetbike was done in CAD much later on.

>>50627445
I know - when I'll be playing DG Noises will stay at home, and when I'll be playing EC Plagues will

>>50627437

Yeah just ordered mine for collection next Saturday. They've added a 1 per customer limit as well.

>>50627437
For France and Belgium too. Probably also anywhere

>>50627445
Sure you can. But they must be completely separate detachments. CSM are Battle Brothers with themselves.

>>50627466
But Anon! It's hard to choose!

>>50627503

You lack conviction in your beliefs. The Word Bearers will find you.

>>50627470
>frontlinegaming
I remember their review of the ork supplement, they played a game which the orks narrowly lost and therefore considered it an excellent book for ork players to get.

>>50627470
If the isn't a pure sisters decurion, we riot.

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>tfw want to go to the shop to lurk around warhammer stuff
>tfw too lazy
>tfw it's raining, cold and shit weather in general so you don't want to go out
how to be lazy and still do things bros

>>50627515
>I get to Waaagh every turn!
>I just have to take a 1500 point worthless formation made up of the shittest units in the book with no customisation
>Its awesome!

This is why I can't stand cancer throat Reecius and his following of shills.

>>50627470
>One special issue wargear seems to be missing. Servo-Skulls are nowhere to be found on any of the Inquistor’s profiles, or in the SI wargear section. This is huge, and will effect the meta the most.

Does this Codex overwrite the older Inquisition one entirely?

>>50627503
It's harder to wander in the unclaimed wastes in your afterlife.

>>50627338
First I know bugger all about the HH, I only got into 40k this year.
Second, are any holding unique guns or have wargear that is incorrect?
I've already fucked up a few marines and given them incorrect pieces and had several people helpfully point out my mistake in the medium of loud, obnoxious yelling.

I'd like to avoid this in the future, if possible.

>>50625572
COMBINED ADMECH CODEX WHEN

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>>50627503
Pick all of them, join us in the Word. Anything else is foolish.

>>50627519

>Walk over to GW in town in the miserable December rain
>Hope to order a Canoness
>Employee has no idea what's going on because she's instantly gone for them too
>End up talking for ten minutes about the new Chaos codex
>Make a joke about the futility of trying to build a Sisters army
>Buy a White Dwarf to avoid a completely wasted trip
>Go home and make a cup of tea

>>50627532
Only ones would be if you have volkite weapons, those are exclusively 30k sans a singl eAdMech HQ.

>>50627547
So you went for a walk, had a nice conversation, and got some reading material.

Sounds like a nice day.

>>50627523
I would say no. Much like how if it did, then mechanicus and gks were rewritten. You can still use the specific codex, I dont see any harm.

>>50627558

It was pretty comfy, and I've managed to order her now.

>>50627522

The other one is orks are okay only if you follow ITC rules (you don't? Looks like you should be banned from 40k!) to take a stompa with a huge discount.

Those ITC cultists are nearly as bad as the 'ard boyz crowd.

>>50627565
In that case you can still take an Inq with Servo-skulls from the previous Codex, am I right?

>>50627547
>>Walk over to GW in town
Lucky you, nearest one is 112 miles out and across the border to Germany so german translated rules.
Second nearest is 235 miles out

>>50627470
>Give a shitty formation to the sisters
>Otherwise copy/paste their mediocre codex
>Oh wait, also remove one of their most beloved characters from the game.

Why gw?

>>50627576
Yeah, Id go for it.

>>50627587
Who has been squatted?

>>50627587
>>Oh wait, also remove the only SoB character from the game.

>>50627532
The marines are all fine. Plasma/Bolt Pistols and Power Sword/Lightning Claws on the Sarges. Bolters, Melta Guns, Plasma Guns. Missile Launchers and Heavy Bolters on the Marines. The Termines have a Heavy Flamer and standard melee weapons. Multi-Melta Dreadnough.

Prospero has some exotic stuff like the Custodes and SoS that will need different rules, but all the Marine stuff should be fine to use straight out of Codex: Space Marines.

>>50627596
Celestine doesn't have rules in the new book.

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>>50627546
Have faith etc.

>>50627565
>>50627576
>>50627595

I suspect it does replace Inquisition. GW called out on the community site that the printed books would note be replaced, but said nothing of the sort for the ebooks like SoB and Inquiistion. My guess is the removal of Servo Skulls is very deliberate.

Fucking third world country. Missed my opportunity for the pre order.

I bet some asshole bought one and is going to melt the model or some shit.

Do regular chaos terminator arms fit on Cataphractii?

>>50627637
>My guess is the removal of Servo Skulls is very deliberate.

Same. They're absurdly good for how little they cost, and the fact that they work regardless of what Allies tier they're taken at means there's often no reason not to bring a cheap Inquisitor with three skulls. Removing them from the game is a good step.

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>>50627604

Haha, time to nerf sisters again! Their rampant overpoweredness is getting tiresome. All we need now is a points increase for penitent engines and it will be complete.

>>50627604
It's not replacing sisters codex though>>50627604

>>50627546
I actually might go with Word Beares as the base color scheme... It's more interesting, than Black Legion...

>>50627173
>Death Guard
>heavy weapons

fucking normies reeeeeee

>>50627604
She may die but she will return as always.

>>50627668
Fuck off Patriarch, your mind fuckery doesn't work here.

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>>50625890
It doesn't pay to underestimate guard
>Ironclad dreadnought gets wrecked by 7 Tank Hunter plasma shots and 1 plasma cannon shot in two shooting phases
>one squad of vets manages to kill almost a full squad of sternguard and a librarian in one shooting phase shooting
>Priests.

>>50627703

Thats what people said about Vect.

>>50627701

>implying Death Guard don't use heavy weapons
>implying them getting Relentless isn't super fluffy

They love heavy weapons, they use them during their slow, unstoppable advance. If you don't think them lugging heavy bolters and autocannons is fluffy, you know nothing about DG.

>>50627684
It is though.

>>50627275

real SoB players never believed it, they have been burned to many times already,

>>50627761
Realscotsmen.jpg

>>50627061
I don't know about that either, peril = potential grounding test for a Flyrant who will get shot to bits...

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>Last game
>Opponent deepstrikes scions three inches from the rear of my dreadnought that's about to paste his command squad
>two melta guns
>He rolls a 1 and a 2
>Next turn
>his two flamer scions are approaching 2 of my tactical marines
>I laugh saying who cares they're just flamers
>roll a 1 and a 2 for armor saves
TZEENTCH!

Canoness is out of stock again

>>50627253

>Not understanding it isn't limited release
>Implying reliable leakers aren't unanimous about more to come

Screencap this stupid faggot's post.

>>50627725
Yeah but they have the whole "easy to maintain, being able to operate independently" stick. So rapid-fire bolting someone before charging with poisoned knifes give out by your sorcerers seem more fluffy.

>>50627789

Heavy Bolters and Autocannons are basically just larger caliber bolters. If they can maintain their boltguns, they can maintain those.

I can understand not using missile launchers or plasma/melta weapons, but a bolt weapon is just a bolt weapon.

>>50627780

I have never had the misfortune, but I understand the need for worrying.

If it does happen, the other 4 just have to pick up the slack.

>>50627783
Thanks for the continual update, really helps those of us with no internet access.

in a cultist heavy army is it worth giving them autoguns?

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>>50627822

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Guys what is your opinion on push-fit figures?
I think they are great, they make me save some glue and if i really want i can add stuff to them anyway.

>>50627323
>>50627404

>She is limited though
>she will be available to order direct from our online store for the foreseeable future, so you’ll all have the chance to add this heroine to your collection.

Blown the absolute fuck out. Don't even care about Sisters, but watching one utterly wrong anon be the entire's thread cockslut after trying to be a smug cunt is delicious.

>>50627826
Better with ones that can respawn.

>>50627846

I like them if only because them plus bitz sites has been the source of all my havocs.

>>50627846
They're fine

>>50627826
Nope. Just take more bodys. Maybe flamer.

>managed to order new canoness is the few minutes she is available again

I would be happy but then again, I play SoB and have done so since 3rd ed - I enjoy the pain.

>>50627470
>reroll any saving throws of 1 once in a game
Wow, Sisters confirmed OP tournament destroyers now with this amazing bonus.

How are Night Lords in the new book? I like their paint scheme a lot. I also like Nurgle. Death Guard / Night Lords work together?

I have a bunch of stuff still on the sprue, have been thinking of doing a chaos army for a while.

I have calth, prospero, assassinorum, and dark vengeance, I'd be building a list from these boxes. Maybe get rhinos and things later.

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All I need are the leg stands and then my dozen tarantulas will be complete.
Why did I need a twelve of these again?

>>50627599
>>50627551
Thank you guys for that.

>>50627809

Well, Heavy Bolters fire fist-sized shells that fragmentate on impact with a target.
Autocannons just fire fuk-hueg slugs.

>>50627855
Please elaborate.

>>50627890
I know right? Who the fuck writes this trash? Are they not allowed to playtest it, or compare it to other options for other armies?

>>50627871
>How are Night Lords in the new book?
Spooky assaulters.

>Death Guard / Night Lords work together?
Deathguard are tough, Night lords are spooky, none of them really cover a weakness of the other.

>>50627809
Sure but then you have to carry around 3 different boxes auf ammunition. Way to comlicated for good old morty. But Typhus may do it just to piss daddy of.

>>50627869

GWvsJohn, is that you?

>>50627784
>Implying reliable leakers aren't unanimous about more to come
Atia isn't even giving a definite on plastics anymore.
Just saying.

>>50626052
Just use the "notify me via email" function
It came back in stock this day again (probably a change in production plans?)
Local stores also have 5 each

If something is limited, they either do a "last chance" or "only x left" thing

What are the best yt channels for 40k content?

I tried watching spikey bitz this morning and it was so bad

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Magnus demon primarch mini is quite cool, now I'm hyped for them making Angron

The mini could be just a Bloodthirster rip-off or a real unique badass monstruosity

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>>50627725
>>implying Death Guard don't use heavy weapons

>>50627945

I can't see the canoness on the GW site at all (US site).... is it on US site yet?

I'm looking for Imperial Agents codex too