Warhammer 40k General

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For Mars and the Omnissiah

>>50610613
>way too early edition

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Third for worst bearers suckiest legion.

>>50610613
Can you explain why the General image is akin to that of an erotic nightclub?

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>>50610676
Best Legion reporting in.

>>50610678
BECAUSE THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypgltnMSTvw

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>>50610676
Suck a dick. Word Bears Best Legion.

>>50610693
Your vox seems to be breaking up, adequately above average Legion, I think I misunderstood you, please repeat, over.

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>>50610678
I didn't have the goggled GSC cover and I had that left piece left over from <pic>

Also because I'm rocking some synthwave to get me pumped for tidying the sty that is my apartment

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>>50610678
Because 80s style is a meme now.
Also Slaanesh.

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>>50610693
>>50610703
I'M SORRY WHAT? I QUITE LITERALLY CANNOT HEAR YOU FAGS OVER THE SOUND OF BEING THE BEST LEGION LOL

>>50610715
they really went a little TOO 90s with this model, it really does look like the existing ancient sisters sculpts

weathered grandma face for +1 realism, in my headcanon SoB are all gruff 40 year old disciplinarian ladies who will smack your shit up just like nuns IRL

>>50610733
It's a homage.

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>>50610704
we have the best fortifications. That undisputable.

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Which is best .mobi reader? My portable reader reads them 50% of the time and I'd rather not skip parts of the Cain series.

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>>50610733
They based it directly off this god-tier piece of Blanche art this is possibly one of the best images in existence to immediately grasp the 40k setting for someone who's never heard of it. It's a masterpiece.

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>>50610737
>>50610733

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New iron warriors detachment. Use multiple auxillary choices to bottle neck the enemy deployment zone or whatever using munitorum crates etc. Fire from on high with havocs and obliterators perched on 20pt manufactorums.

Just like some kind of Iron Cage

>>50610755
Of course, I love Blanche and that picture. I'm not bitching per se, I mean the model is fine but . . . the face in that pic does not match the mini.

>>50610755
Holy shit I knew I'd seen that Mini's pose before. Cheers anon.
Based Blanchitsu.

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>>50610729
Nah, I'd rather not have a primarch that was fucked into joining Chaos.

>>50610694
THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw
Totally worth building an old shitty mp3 player into a rhino for your dirge casters.

>>50610776
DONT WORRY PATHETIC VIRGIN KEKS NEED NOT APPLY TO BEST LEGION, WE GET SO MUCH ACTION IT WOULD LITERALLY CAUSE YOUR TINY CHASTITY-CAGED DICKS TO EXPLODE INTO CHUNKY SALSA

>>50610785
MY FUCKING PARTY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER TROPHY MOTHER

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>>50610785
If I was a much more skilled modeller/painter/general hobbyist, I would make a rhino so that when you pressed a button on the one of the track hubs, the top hatch would pop open and a bunch of noise marines would be halfway pushed up somehow out of the rhino, shaking around violently to simulate drug-fueled rave dancing, with a strobe light flashing inside the transport compartment while the middle of Divide by MAGNA plays from a little speaker inside:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aLOkTo3IpU

So now that Traitor Legions are a thing, and Sisters are getting an update soon, what next? Who needs a new book after that? Tyranids recently got some help in the form of GSC, and anyone who's got a hardcover codex as of 6th ed probably isn't getting a whole new book until after 8th, so what are we going to see? Dark Eldar campaign? Grey Knights?

>>50610830
I'm betting Age of Sigmar for a good while the space marines again.

How mad do you think my opponents would be if I brought a boombox with my Emperor's Children army and pumped some disgusting wubstep tunes during all my Shooting phases?

>>50610830
>Who needs
Orks, Dark Eldar.

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So there's an 1850 tourney at my FLGS this Sunday, and here's what I'm thinking of bringing. Our local meta is mostly Space Marines (Some Wolves, Blood Angles, and Ultrasmurfs above all else), some more chaos (all factions), Orks, and one or two 'Crons. The site doesn't have the right points for the Terminator Champion weapons, but everything else fits. Also I'm running Black Legion. So, what does y'all think?

>>50610849
You'd be removed from my club at least.

>>50610847
Other than GK, what do they even possibly have to update for Space Marines right now? They've already got all their other Codices current to 7th plus Angels of Death/Angel's Blade.

>>50610733
well irl nuns are only old weathered ladies because no one young joins anymore
it's basically just religious female neets at this point

>>50610857
Your club sounds like some boring no fun allowed kinda shit. I bet you don't even let the Ork players bellow WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH at the top of their lungs.

>>50610849
I've done that before, though only when my whole squad hit with their weapons. We all had a good laugh. Then they died.

>>50610830
I'm grateful for the supplement but I dislike DLC and would rather have just had a new base CSM codex. Plus I don't field a legion nor can my army even be believably proxied as one, so I will be sticking with the main book for the most part. Plus a couple dataslates.

The problem is that none of the books are really that old now. Everybody has an relatively updated codex, some are just . . . bad. And I would prefer that an edition lasted at least 5 years, these constant updates are a curse and a blessing. Hello awesome new rules, goodbye awesome old rules. Now Dark Eldar characters are squatted, but hey, daemons are OP now! Like bruh, can you just focus on balancing shit before you get carried away with a new faction like genestealers. idk man, I just hope orks and nids are fixed next edition, the two main horde armies being kukt like this kinda sucks, I wish there were more viable blobs in the game.

>>50610868
It's great fun exactly because we have our spergs housetrained, our memesters on a quota and our cheesemongers on the watchlist.

>>50610830
Abaddon/BL, AoS Tzeentch and Sisters in January.

Not sure what then. Maybe DG.

>>50610885
Tough but fair. I respect your position.

>>50610853
No one, they'll be squatted soon like all filthy xenos.

>>50610898
40k RP -> >>50596703

>>50610894
Sisters are prob in February. Death Guard are probably further away than people think, though definitely in the pipeline somewhere. Combined AdMech Codex is almost certainly on the horizon, though. Lastly, expect an Inquisitor boxed game in the same vein as Deathwatch: Overkill but for the new Imperial Agents stuff sometime soon, might be included alongside new Chaos Cultists or plague zombies.

>>50610919
>might be included alongside new Chaos Cultists

Yes please.

>>50610905
Xenos are dead m8. Artemis got the ball rolling. Xenos never did shit so I don't know why you'd care

>>50610878
>I'm grateful for the supplement but I dislike DLC and would rather have just had a new base CSM codex

Fucking CSMfags whine whine whine

>>50610933
Note that it's purely speculation. The Inquisitor boxed game itself was hinted by Atia so that's solid, and those games always need a Traitor or Xenos force as the antagonists, so my best guess considering recent and upcoming releases, and what would make sense to go against Inquisitorial Warbands, is Cultists/Plague Zombies. But it could be anything. Maybe Pestigors, maybe Dark Mechanicus (that's very much in wishlisting territory), maybe plastic Cult Marine troops.

>>50610878
Just use legion rules or graft space chapter tactics on using the same pattern. Chaos iron hands anyone?

>>50610974
Honestly I'm building up my cultists right now and I fucking hate those snap fit bastards. And I have to Ebay the fucking special weapons.

Who Alpha Legion here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0lWUpcQO24

>>50610956
t. Loyalist player who got an extremely OP current up-to-date main Codex BEFORE his expansive Angels of Death supplement.

>>50610998
Considering Alpha Legion wants to run tons of them and can potentially get back 2 units when one dies, I can see the demand going up.

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>>50610956
DLC is rather annoying. Thank goodness we have diigital books now.

Let's say little jimmy wants to play super imperial friends.
He would need the inquisitions, scion, IG, knight, SoB, some other random data sheet because formation DLC. Another book for rules to vehicles that should had been in the bigger book.

Is Little Jimmy an idiot for using so many different stuff? Yes
Is his army fun to play and still wonders why the fuck scion has its on mini book and Repressor is in another castle. Yes.

Do chaos players bitch more than a college girl in gender studies? Yes they do.

Do SoB players bitch like an abused house wife? No, because they fear their GW husban would murder them if they say something. For some reason they still think GW actually cares and it is their fault no new models had been made for a dacade.

I had a point here but forgot.

So chaos players bitch a lot and retarded number of books for basically the same thing is stupid.

>>50610998
I've started supplementing my snapfit cultists with the 1/2gen genestealer hybrids. I just snip the heads off of the chaos cultists I don't like and put them on the hybrids. Removing some of the genestealer iconography is tedious though.

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>>50611009
The lost and the damned formation doesn't seem that useful for most of the legions. Without obj secured Whats the point? They come back again and again and accomplish nothing.

T. Iron warriors player who just painted 30 traitor guard

>>50611003
The funniest part is every time Chaosbabbies are called out they flail around and claim it's a marinefag telling him to shut the fuck up. You ever stop to think that literally every other faction hates you too because you're such a whiny bitch?

You're literally getting what you asked for including buffs new models and legion rules and you still fucking crying

>>50610956
but I also said I'm grateful, I aint even mad. you just want to nitpick about the "chaos whiners" meme

people who cry "csm players are whiners" are the actual whiners. really makes you think.

>>50611039
>Do chaos players bitch more than a college girl in gender studies? Yes they do.
Woah buddy let's not go that far.

>>50611041
The neophytes? Yeah that boxset is really nice. Try some pigiron miniatures heads. They fit just right and look bangin

>>50611050
>now the CSMbabby is whining about whiners

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>>50610693
Their relic is just a seroskull that just cusses in Dark Mechanicus techno language.

>>50611049
I'm sorry, what new Slaanesh models did I get that I've been asking for?

What buffs to Possessed did we get? Dark Apostles?

Please fill me in.

Meanwhile smurfs get "lol literally all of your transports are free" and Skyhammer.

>>50611069
>Its scrapcode chant is so maddening that opposing war engines will spontaneously immolate themselves in order to avoid spending another second near the floating, anarchic device
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY KEKS ARE UNENDING

LOYALIST LAND RAIDER MACHINE SPIRIT IS LITERALLY LIKE "wow I hate this so much I'm just gonna fUCKING KILL MYSELF" AND DETONATES ITS OWN GODDAMN POWER CELLS

>>50611103
it's the ghost of kyr vhalen

>>50611061
>now the whiner is whining about csm whiners whining about whiners

>>50610830
Tyranids still have large amount of their units outside the codex so hopefully them

the fact that nids are my main army has nothing to do with this opinion

>>50611120
Tyranids aren't getting updated until after 8th.

Then they'll be fucking disgusting top tier.

>>50611125
Nids are getting squatted, along with all Xenos, when the Loyalist Primarchs return they'll kill them all quick

>>50611103
Iron Warriors confirmed for having TERMINALLY good bantz and shit posts

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>>50611103
Illustrated

>>50611117

Not so fast, Yugi-boy, you've activated my trap card: now you're whining about whiners whining about whiners whining about whining.

>>50611132
LOL

The walls you can build out of all the bricks you're going to shit when you see their 8ed rules will still not be enough to save you when they hit the table.

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>>50611145
Magnificent. Peturabo would be proud

>>50611149
Who gives a fuck? Craftworld Knife-ears have good stats didn't stop Artemis from squatting them. Nids will die witht he rest of the abominations soon enigh, the galaxy is mankind's

>>50611145
Fucking incredible, anon. Saved.

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>>50610830

Wych Cults

>>50610878
Orks, Nids and DE most need a new book. Followed by IG.

>>50611149
>my chaos cultist champion miraculously kills a space marine terminator captain
>roll on boon table
>66, dark apotheosis
>I replace his model with a daemon prince
>he is immediately gunned down as a wingless IC with no attached unit before I even get to use him

*record scratch*
yeah, that's me. you're probably wondering how I got here

>2012
>whoa this 40k game my friend talks about sounds cool
>maybe I'll go with orks, or tyranids, I want a horde army. or maybe space wolves.
>i'll by this dark vengeance box set, seems cool
>i'll be chaos my mate will be loyalists
>well I kind of have a csm force now so better expand it
>2016
>csm is my only army, of which I have a few thousand points and have never fielded nids or orks

semi-dodged a bullet there. jokes aside, how did you guys get started in 40k? time for /tg/ survey. also, for some weird reason, when I used to browse /tg/ before I knew how wargames worked and was only into D&D and MTG, I imagined that 40k was played on some massive table-sized grid of hexes and models could move so many squares etc. I have no idea where I got this misconception, and I had never seen any of the 40k kits that use actual hex tiles either

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past 2 weeks iv had a really hard time picking which chaos legion i want to collect, i went from wanting night lords to thousands sons to w/e. really tough time deciding what to sink money into.

but i finally decided and ordered around £70 of stuff for the best legion.....
i am Alpharius

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>>50611210
>dark apotheosis daemon princes don't keep their gear
>no daemon princes on motorcycles

I really like the look of the Maulerfiend/Forgefiend model. Are either of them decent on the table top? In the group I play in there is DE, Tau, IG and Ad Mech. Which would be best for most situations?

Thanks!

>>50611229
glad you're able to settle on a legion
I haven't been able to decide between night lords, alpha legion or iron warriors

So I've decided to do all of them. Might as well wring every dollar out of the traitor legion book and use up all my leftover marine bits.

Thousand Sons aren't that bad and are pretty fun to field.

What's everybody's thoughts on keeping Siphon charges across turns?

>>50611252
forgefields sound cool but they get annihilated so easily all you're doing is spending point to have some cool scenery

>>50611234
you never really hear people bitch about this, but the fact that a daemon prince spawns in the middle of the fucking table completely vulnerable means that fucker is dead ASAP, and if the assault just ended on your turn then welp. even if it ended on your opponent's turn, you better pray your slow ass foot prince is close enough to make the charge on another unit or *poof*

would rather just keep my champ 9 times out of 10. thanks phil I'm not complaining though the new traitor legions supplement is great I love it

>>50611210
One of my friends went to the local GW, played a demo game of the LotR skirmish game, told me about it, we grabbed Mines of Moria, and it sorta spiralled from there.

I got into 40k while on holidays at the beach. My parents gave me $100 spending money, so I used it to buy some lollies from the local sweet shop and then also went to the nearby GW to spend the rest. Saw some Tau minis, fell in love with the aesthetic, and was hooked from there. I grabbed a Piranha, some Stealth Suits, and I think a Commander too. I actually still have two of the stealth suits and a very broken Commander around, hiding in my bits box.

>>50611261
yeah man its really hard but il probably end up doing night lords aswell after i got a good force of alphas. goodluck to you buddy

>>50611272
>Plays Tau
Ew

>>50611252
The Maulerfiend is great in pairs, they're fast, and destroy pretty much all armour they can get their claws on.

>>50611290
No bully

Although I never actually scraped a Tau army together to play, just really liked the models.

>>50611229
What you gonna source as massed respawning cultists?

"Real" cultists, GSC, IG, third party?

>>50611252
forgefiends are bad because they die too easily to be costing land raider points. that is sad because they put out some respectable dakka and look awesome, but they're basically just souped up dreadnoughts so 150 should be their max cost

maulerfiends are the way to go. 125 points for a fast walker (move as beasts, so 12" and ignore terrain) that will rape any armor they can reach. they suck against pretty much everything else but are good for dedicated anti-vehicle

the best thing to do is model it as a maulerfiend, but attach some magnets above the shoulders so you can slap on the hades autocannons and call him a forgefiend when you feel like it for fun

>>50611310
Liking anything non-human's bad enough this is /tg/ not some stupid site

>>50611318
Alrighty thanks man I will give it a shot! The maulerfiend sounds like the way to go if I wanna close the gap to rip and tear some IG tanks.

>>50611301
Are they any decent against infantry?

>tfw Gift of Mutation turns your Lord into a Spawn

PRAISE THE PRIMORDIAL TRUTH

Gift of Mutation fucking rules.

>>50611317
got couple of squads of base marines but i would like to do alot of cultist, one on my favorite things about chaos. for cultist models im gonna do guard and maybe some FW stuff too. dont really have an army list yet

>>50611342
They don't put out enough attacks, and while they are more or less unassailable by most infantry (unless they have melta bombs or a power fist) due to it's high armour value.

>>50611342

That's not really their focus, elite units maybe, but they are getting tar pitted otherwise.

>>50611310
What a loser, playing anything other than Imperium is pathetic, even looking at other miniatures is disgusting

>>50611321
>>50611377
I'm sorry anons, I'll think about what I've done and only come back when I've made up for it.

>>50611387
For what its worth anon, and on /tg/ it isn't much, I actually like the way Tau look too. I even play them unforgivable sin as that might be

>>50611387

They just salty because of Tau's 'Totally Not Walker' giant robots, they used to love blue berries

>>50611394
Kill yourself right now Taufag

>>50611400
>Seems like a Taufag but not sure
Kill yourself to be safe

>It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

SoB FAG KEKS BTFO.

RIP IN PISS YOU FUCKING MEME ARMY.

FUCK YOU. TOLD YOU THAT THERE WAS NO UPDATE FOR YOU COMING. SUCK IT.

>>50611430

I am a chaos whiner, kys loyalist scum

>>50611394
ONly five year olds and gays play Tau, guess we know what you are

>>50611435
This literally says nothing contradicting the new SoB Codex in february you dumb faggot.

>>50611229
Choose alpha legion. Easiest legion to make a chaos lord for. Just get a normal chaos marine and say 'this is alpharius'

>>50611435

Show your working. How the fuck does that mean SoB update isn't coming?

>>50611435
Closet trannies btfo

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can anyone make out the artefacts? or have a cleaner pic

Guys ive been Reading the thread and ive read here and there you're talking about adepta sororitas updates. Is that confirmed? Can you please tell me about it?

>>50611445
>>50611447

My admission, fageit. It says it won't replace GK's or DW. Therefore the only faction not mentioned is SoB. So they're saying it's replacing them.

Otherwise they'd have said 'not replacing SoB'.

>>50611437
>Chaos not Imperium
Kill yourself

>>50611455

yes to both

>>50611458
Plastics Sisters and Codex in February, nothing else known at this time.

>>50611464
It says it's not replacing the printed rules for GK or DW. It doesn't need to specify that for SoB because they don't even have printed rules. Even if it did replace their outdated stuff, they're still getting an actual update in 2 more months, so it would just be an interim placeholder. You're retarded.

>>50611464

Because their new book is coming in February. You can't replace something that hasn't been released, you fucking fool.

>>50611458
Not officially confirmed. But rumors and large amount of circumstantial evidence all points to it. Plus there IS an official tease that is either new sisters or a cruel joke.

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>>50611317
TFW dark vengeance is the perfect alpha legion starter set.

Paint up your dark angels as under cover alpha legion or fallen angel allies

>>50611477
Is this confirmed? Source?

>>50611394
>Drinks tears
Keep crying alienfucker your timee will cme

>>50611464
PRINT CODEX

It says print. There is no print SoB codex.

>>50611472
>worshiping a dead turk on a chair
Kill yourself.

>>50611494
Nice. Where Can i see all these evidences and teasers?

>>50611509

You can't. they pull tidbits from here and there, mix together and spit out that bull shit.

>>50611455
I shall try my best for you anon.

1. Can't read it. Replaces a melee weapon. S: User AP-, Melee, Poisoned (2+).

2. S1, AP-, Assault 1, Large Blast, One Use, Poisoned (2+)

3. Can use the staff in shooting phase instead of another shooting weapon. S1, AP5, Assault 1, Poisoned (2+), Template. In melee it's, +2S AP4, Melee, Concussive, Poisoned (3+). I think.

4. Can't read it. Something to do with fight phase.

5. Can't read it.

6. Replaces melee weapon. S: User, AP3, some 'see CSM codex' rule, something else.

Best I can do. Sorry.

>>50611394
Get off here, this isn't for Taufags who spam Riptides.

>>50611514
Sadly typical. Pity. Hope you are right though, even if the fact that every six months we lose our shit for a possible sob update makes me quite skeptical...

>>50611455
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Chaos_Space_Marines(7E)#Death_Guard

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>>50611455

>>50611520
4 gives Fear with enemies taking Fear tests on 3d6 (lmao for fucking 25 points, yeah right).

5 turns cultists into Fearless FnP zombies and restores 1d3 at the start of each turn.

>>50611441
This is about the level of response I expected

>>50611479
No shit, but it's not coming, they'd have left a little hint like they usually do. It's not happening. It never happens. How long has this merry dance gone on for?

>>50611477
Not really. This is the 'update' or they wouldn't of then gone on to mention that

>This is a book that compiles together loads of specialist forces that commonly operate alongside other armies within the Imperium – including agents from the Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Adepta Sororitas, Cult Mechanicus, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Aeronautica Imperialis, and even the Legion of the Damned.

Compiles.

>>50611505
Doesn't need to be. It says right there it's combined the factions together.

>>50611509
Here's a link to an embed of the official tease:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/10/10/warhammer-tv-video-plastic-sisters-of-battle/

Rumors are all over the place. I can't link them easily. I imagine Bell of Lost Souls has reposted most of them.

>>50611535
>Waw waw I'm a dirty xenos fucker and I think anyone cares
Fuck off and kill yourself

>>50611527
You can't be skeptical, anon. It's either happening and you're a retard for not sucking the dicks of rumourfags. Or it's not happening and you're a retard for believing it.

So just go with the negative side so you're not disappointed. It prob isn't happening. How many times has this come up before? This happened literally last year.

>>50611534
Neat. But some kind anon put a proper picture above. I need to order that book but waiting for this week. Not too fussed about waiting another week so it's delivered with Inquisition one.

>>50611499
And you can use the the chaos marines as painting practice.

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>>50611514
Yes. The new Canoness appearing after being rumored along with other Sisters stuff surely means nothing at all.

For World Eaters, should I pick the Chaos Warband or the Maelstrom of Gore as a core formation?

>special weapons, bikes, boon rerolls, ObSec, heavy support
vs
>WS5, +3 charge, fleet

>>50611527
Okay so rumours start, plastic sisters soon.

Then GW teases it in a video.

Then another rumour says Canoness in december, then plastic sisters in Jan-Feb.

Cannoness confirmed and up for pre-order Saturday.

Then yesterday they remove the main SoB battle sisters model off the site completely.

It adds up.

I really want to build a kroot auxiliary army for the lulz
how heretic is that?

>>50611533
Arch-Contaminator + Plaguebringer is a neat build.

>>50611566
Forgot to add MoG also gives free attacks in movement phase.

>>50611555
muh disappointment
muh feels

>>50611569
Don't forget that unlike LITERALLY EVERY OTHER TIME sisters update has been rumoured, which skepticfags like to point to as evidence nothing is coming, this time we have it directly from a rumourmonger with like 98% accuracy, who also was the one to mention the Canoness that was just con-fucking-firmed.

Also that one of the vehicle model designers for GW said he's working on a model for a Faction he's never worked on before, and investigating anons narrowed it down to Sisters or Orks. Ork update seems pretty unlikely.

>>50611569
>Then yesterday they remove the main SoB battle sisters model off the site completely
What do you mean anon?

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>>50611377

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>>50611587
I don't particularly care, but I feel for SoBfags.

Check the date. 4 years ago and that's not even the start of this.

>>50611598
The 10 man squad of Battle Sisters are off GW's site.

>>50611596
Also the fact that they just released Sisters of Silence in BoP surely wasn't any sort of hint or test run.

>>50611598
No more basic sisters with bolters on the site.

>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light."
- The Emperor

>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- ADB, BL Author

>imagine bothering to play as ANY faction other than Chaos

Why are you even bothering?

Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you? Are you a bunch of cucks?

>>50611612
>why play 30k?
>why play LotR?

>>50611608
>>50611611

That ones in metal that they say they give you randomly?
Because that makes sense. They waited for them to run out of stock BEFORE releasing new stuff

>>50611612
>implying the ending that will never come has any bearing on the games played before it

>>50611596
>Ork update seems pretty unlikely.
Yeah orks won't see a new codex till end 2017 at the earliest.

>>50611612
>why live if you're going to die anyway? >are you a bunch of cucks?

>>50611618

here comes the sad tale of SoB returning to the emperor.

>>50610613
I don't play 40k but that is a great pic op

>>50611612
>>50611617
>why play any historical battle game?
>why watch any movie?
>why read any novel or comic?
>why play any video game?

>>50611612
>not wanting to rage proudly against the dying of the light
You sound like the only cuck here, anon.

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>>50611612
This is the most cancer I've seen in this thread in awhile.

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>>50611646
I am Carnac.

>>50611617
Exactly. Why play 30k when Chaos wins?

>>50611624
It doesn't need to. It's already enshrined. It's what's happening. So why bother? Why play a game where you're not 'helping' your side? You're no longer able to win the setting. It isn't 1 min to midnight any more.

>>50611629
False equivalence.

>>50611639
Historical battle games are based on history, not on an expanding setting written by people. The result has happened, the fun comes with trying to rewrite history, not being part of the history and knowing you lose. Imagine the German soldiers in 1940 being told that in 5 years time most of them will be dead and they'll have lost? Nobody would bother.

A film is a story you watch, you're not part of the setting. You're not actively helping to shape it.

Same for comics and novels, you read for the story, you're not invested in it. You're not trying to help your 'side' win and the fun of that, you're enjoying a story with little investment. ADB throws out the window the illusion you're helping.

Video games the same.

>>50611645
Not at all. Nothing is being taken away from me by another person. Your 'point' of playing has been.

>>50611646
Not that faggot. But guess he agrees with me too.

Stop ALWAYS replying to the Chaoswinsfag.

He posts in every single fucking thread and every time, you cunts fall for it and shit the place up.

Does anyone know the actual size of the Magnus model? Height, width, wingspan, anything? People in my meta don't even use Knights so I have no reference for anything larger than a Land Raider.

>>50611604
Is the orkcunt sad that his race are glorified punching bags?

You're on /tg/ fucker, this is Imperium turf (not like Orks even have any turf cause they lose every battle they fight)

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>>50611693

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>>50611654
No, I am Carnac.

>>50611709
Is that even properly proportioned? That means he's 2.5 marines tall? 4 with wings? That's bloody small.

>>50611700
>Implying this isn't Traitor General.

You're in Chaos country, Anon.

Chaos Legions and Renegades, check in.

>>50611700
Chaos literally confirmed to win. So both you fags suck.

>>50611612

>this kills the thread

>>50611722
He's the size of a knight, what's wrong with you?

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>>50611692
With encouragement he may someday shitpost hard enough to be banned. Pretty sure hes >>50611700 this guy too given his posts have called out every other post that mentions any faction other than the imperium. It's just false flag samefagging trying to stir shit up.

>>50611700

>You're on /tg/ fucker, this is Imperium turf

Son, this is Traitor General. This has been established.

>>50611683
Cry more about things that don't matter, I'll be over here having fun playing 40k games.

>>50611646
>>50611645
>>50611654
>>50611733
>>50611624
>>50611629
>>50611639

Recursive filtering, kills the shitpost and all it spawns.

>>50611683
>Nothing is being taken away from me by another person. Your 'point' of playing has been.
Ahahahahahahah

This faggot actually believes this.

>>50611735
I literally just balanced 3 of my rubrics on top of each other and measured 2.5. 2 of them stacked is the same as the stock Daemon Prince with wings. You're telling me a knight is only 2-3 cms larger?

Actual cm/mm measurements please.

>>50611747
Pls explain for us newfags how that works. We're in your caring hands wise one.

>>50611736
Does the truth hurt xenosfag? The Imperium is the protagonist, that's just how it is. Non-Imperium players should shut up already

The Emperor doesn't need worthless heretics like you

>>50611747
What? Is that a mod or something?

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>>50611347
but

>page 67 CSM codex
>gift of mutation
> . . . Do not apply any Spawnhood or Dark Apotheosis results; roll again on the table instead.

>>50611722
Your sense of scale is off. Without counting the wings he's taller than anything in the 40k range aside from the superheavy walkers.

Here's Duncan painting him if you want more scale reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hzls-ZU3sc

What is the best loadout for a venerable dreadnaught that is footslogging (Iron Hands). I originally thought Assault Cannon due to heavy 4 with BS5, although now I'm beginning to wonder if a Plasma Cannon has a better damage output against inf and light armour.

To phrase it another way, 1 ven 1 normal with both of these weapons, how do you load them out?

>>50611736
He can't be banned because he isn't breaking any rules. He's posting on topic, he is posting 40k content, he is posting /tg/ content. Nothing of what he said is breaking any rules. He hasn't been racist or posted a pony.

The same reason the slav, carnac and so on havent been banned. They're not breaking any rules.

>>50611764

>I AM TINY BABY WHO CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUE GLORY OF CHAOS

Take the training wheels off.

>>50611765
Sans wings I'm not sure he's taller than a Trygon.

>>50611770

TL Las/Missile Launcher is good for a backfield camping Dread.

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I've never played 40k (or any mini based wargame) before.

Have been playing the videogames on and off since Vengeance of the Blood Angels, and after playing a shitload of Space Hulk, Vermintide, and the Deathwing beta I have decided to check out the tabletop game. Gonna be picking up the "babby's first painting kit" three pack of spess mehreens this weekend to give painting a go, and plan on heading to the local game shop to see if I can watch a game or two be played.

What am I getting into, /tg/?

Also, are Orks a good option for a beginner? I think being able to do a lot of customization on the vehicles would be a lot of fun.

>>50611760
4chan x on pc, Clover on android, both has it as a feature.

>>50611765
Yeah but if a picture comparing him to a rubric is posted, first thing I'm going to do is see how many rubrics-tall he is. Otherwise, why was that comparison picture even made if it's wrong?

thank you for the video, but I just want so measurements so I can draw it out here, physically, instead of trying to get an approximation and imagine it.

Duncan's branching out, lads.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/09/kit-bash-space-wolf-cataphractii-terminator/

He's doing kitbashes now.

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>>50611722
You're counting the KSon's big hat.

>>50611804
So you filter the post and it filters replies?

>>50611809

HAIL DUNCAN

>>50611801
>Also, are Orks a good option for a beginner? I think being able to do a lot of customization on the vehicles would be a lot of fun.

Fun to build and customise but shit tier on the tabletop.

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>>50611722

>>50611709
He's a big daemon.

>>50611812
Of course I do, it's part of the model..

>>50611790
>when the rules of the game get in the way of chaos glory

I will never be an anime-inspired blob of gibbering mouths on a rule34 tumblr

>>50611801
you're getting into a lot of frustration

to be honest just get good at modeling and painting, and then play inquisimunda with some other fucks from England

>>50611801
>Also, are Orks a good option for a beginner? I think being able to do a lot of customization on the vehicles would be a lot of fun.
they are bucktes of fun to build and paint
but
they are possibly THE worst army on the table top ATM. they have annoying rules which make them both frustrating and often times unfun to play.

My advice: buy ork vehcles, but lay genesteler cult: you can still have a ton of fun converting ramshakled scrap vehcles, and actually do good on the TT

>>50611826
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/

He's a big guy.

>>50611818
Thanks anon!

Oh. Wait...

>>50611822
Ok, I still want measurements, but I laughed.

>>50611692
At this point it's just amusing to me that one guy can be so rectum ruptured he feels compelled to try and convince EVERYONE ELSE that THEIR entire gaming experience is "ruined". I can't fathom how someone can develop such autism.

>>50611822
kek

>>50611835
Duncan, we're talking Lord of the Hobby, not Lord of Questions.

>>50611834
>>50611826
IF I PULLED YOUR EYE OFF, WOULD YOU DIE?

>>50611821

That sucks.

I like Space Marines but that seems like such a default army option so I don't know. Maybe Chaos Space Marines? I read about Noise Marines in some wiki somewhere and the entire concept sounds so goddamn stupid, I love it.

>>50611801
40k is basically the grandpa of RTS, it's like Age of Empires but slow and using real dice for RNG and also horrifically unbalanced compared to literally any mainstream video game. orks are worse than AoE III germans by FAR

>>50611801
This thread is basically useless for real information these days and due to intensive ongoing alpha legion shitposting you yourself may be a shitpost. If not the short story is orks are very bad and you may only be able to have fun with them in the most casual of metas or if you don't intend on actually playing.

>>50611834
>>50611849

I literally built my Magnus with the mask option, for this reason.

>>50611848
I know ;_;

>>50611852

Always pick for fluff and models.

Rules change, fluff rarely does.

>>50611858
kek

>>50611863
>fluff rarely does.
>Laughing_ADB_and_Laurie_Goulding.jpg

>>50611814
Filter or just hide, and yes then it hides replies and replies of replies.

It may cut a quality posts in the reply chain but like cancer surgery you have to cut deep.

>>50611863
ahh so you dont play 30k then?

>>50611872
Neat. I'll just ignore it for the moment.

>>50611863
>Always pick for fluff and models.
>
>Rules change, fluff doe whenever a writer CBA to do research (read constantly)

>>50611858
Could you please measure him for me, mate? I'm not asking much, just how tall he is from hair to feet and how much higher the wings go..

>>50611893
You could just go buy a Peppered Mangus and measure him yourself.

>>50611852
Sure it's actually a good time to jump into Slaanesh CSM since they got some great new rules. Keep in mind they don't have a distinct models at the moment, so you'll be combining the conversion kits GW provides for sonic weapons with normal CSM bodies.

Don't discount Space Marines either though. There are lots of flavors, so it's not like you'll be exactly the same as everyone else. Plus they're a great army to learn to paint with.

>>50611893

If I wasn't in a hotel room with him at my house, I would do that for you senpai.

>>50611852
Noise Marines in the form of the Emperor's Children legion in the new Traitor Legions supplement just got pretty good. They are 1) awesome to paint, with endless conversion possibilities due to the ragtag nature of chaos space marines which combine the best of both worlds with space marine lore + infinite chaos possibilities, and 2) good ruleswise. So if you start up an Emperor's Children army you are good in shape on both fronts. The rules are good . . . for now at least.

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Does anyone have pics of the Death Guard fluff from the new book?

>>50611832

I have an inherent hatred for genestealers due to the massive amounts of ass-ravaging they have dealt me in the Space Hulk games.

I was also checking out Imperial Guard but I read that due to the high amounts of models required the cost and paint times are very high and aren't really good for a new player as a result.

>>50611920
That's some good fuckin art.

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>>50611920

>>50611899
That's why I want some measurements. I kinda want to know for several reasons including how big to build my new display cabinet..

>>50611914
Worth a try eh, thank you regardless.

>>50611924
>I have an inherent hatred for genestealers due to the massive amounts of ass-ravaging they have dealt me in the Space Hulk games.
NICE. Your asspain sustains me.

>>50611929
Not sure how i feel about guts coming out through the chest cavity.

>>50611935
Blessings upon you, anon

>>50611920
the what now?

>>50611942
His biology is all mutated and shit. It's a Nurglite, Space Marine, from the Warp - that's like three levels of fuckery over a normal person.

>>50611924
to be honesnt m8, the GSC rules cna be used to represent a reble uprising, reguadless of sourse.

you are right, guard are a pain. look in the mega at the top of this thread: IA 13 warmachine of the damned has a fun chaos-guard list which can be made very elite, and so need very few models+ has plenty of conversion fule.

>tfw Word Bearers
>tfw could take any Mark I want
>tfw still don't want to take marks because undivided

I wish there was a Mark of Chaos Undivided. Although, because GW hates not specializing, it'd probably be something garbage.

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>>50611936

maybe this pic helps more

>>50611961
The only mark in my entire army is a Tzeentch DP.

I wish the game had a mark of Undivided again too.

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Sup /40k/

I've never actually played the tabletop, but /tg/ has put a lot of interest in doing so. I found some workmates who are into the idea and weren't scared off by the pricetags, so I figure if I'm not the only one learning and putting cash into this I should probably start.

I've had a bit of a thing for Tau from the aesthetic of their battlesuits and more subtle grimdark wrapped in noblebright clothing. Particularly, this sexy motherfucker and the XV25 stealthsuits.

I realize I probably couldn't make an army that's all spooky invisible robots without fucking myself over, but I'd like to see an army that makes heavy use of XV25s and a ghostkeel or two.

What sort of units should I invest in to complement this style of force? I don't need a whole army list, I can tailor that shit as I go, but just some suggestions to get me started.

>>50611942
He's a skinny lad. Obviously his stomach bloated upwards and burst through some chest-high bolter wounds. Guy has no lungs

So wait, why didn't they put out rules for the Deredeo Lascannons? There's no published 40k book with the Deredeo in it yet.

>>50611935
>little emphasis on bike or jumpacks
>best DG unit are bikers
oh morty, how sad you must be

>>50611974
that is absurd

how the hell do primarchs even walk around on their spaceships

>traitor's first day on the battle barge
>all the doorways are 30 meters tall because papa magnus is a Big Guy
>what have I done

>>50612009
I'm pretty pumped about DG oblierators.

>>50612017
They're daemons. They can alter their shape.

>>50612002
30k rulkes m8

>str 10 ap 1 heavy 2, if you pen a vehcle, roll a dice, on 1 4+ pen twice

>>50612017
He is bigger than he was before and he lives in a Silver Tower, not a ship.

>>50612009
Still, aside from bikers the best DG army is likely an infantry heavy footslogging one.

>>50612023
>T5, FNP
its alright. basically a free FNP upgrad on what most people had

IW oblits are still probs better

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Is this a good terrain layout for a Kill Team skirmish? My buddy that points out LOS problems isn't about.

>>50611976
>Plays Tau
Fuck yourself and die, this game is for humans

>>50612024
>>50612035
I'm partially shitposting, of course in a 40k setting the mundane stuff like door logistics isn't going to arise when daemon princes are the subject matter. Although I don't know much about Magnus. Does he never leave the silver tower? Does he not board ships anymore? Can he just appear where he wants to be as a daemon prince?

>>50612041
T4 6+FNP, tank hunter+ makes them better vs vehicles though more vulnerable to lascannons.

>>50611533
>all of them are Relentless
Fucking noice

>>50612054
Ok then, enjoy playing IG vs Inquisition.

>>50612060
humm, this is true. FNP vs lascannons is pretty funny for DG. do cultists get the full FNP/relentless

>>50612064
relentless havoks brah, shits tasty

>>50612072
They don't get VotlW

>>50612072

Nope. Need to be able to take VotLW for it, cultists can't.

>>50612077
>>50612077

ahh yes. piss, thats a shame

>>50612072
Take Typhus if you want Nurgley cultists.

>>50611533
Do CSM Termies have a better way of representing Power scythes than power/chainfists for 40k death shrouds?

>>50612072
>terminator havoc squad
>all termis can take a reaper autocannon @ 12 pts

it would be the flyest shit but what we got is cool too

>>50611976
This is some high quality bait so I respect the effort and craftsmanship enough for a (you).

Really just read your codex and buy units you like. If you're new and your friends are new avoid formations and just try and have fun. Same as any other faction.

>>50612054
All the humans in 40k are boring and shitty, though.
>army dudes
>*special* army dudes in weird bubble armor
>*special* army dudes in weird bubble armor but with spikes
>nonexistent nuns
>dudes who like robots but have no idea how they work
>a couple nice looking huge robots but they're all kind of the same

>>50612090
power axes, though its a poor cop out. if you have a nice enough group, they might let you crib the rules from 30k

>>50612093
Or the Poxwalker Hive Relic that tranforms them.

>>50612065
This is Marinehammer idiot

Are you ready for alpha legion to infiltrate fun and competitive metas alike.

>>50612099
Just ask your friends/opponent if it's OK and use them if they're OK with it. Just communicate.

>>50612099
>>50612110

>>50612057
Summoned, presumably. In Storm of Iron, after ascending the Warsmith immediately fucks off and says"The power of the warp calls me, Honsou, and it is a call I cannot refuse."

So DP's don't go to war via spaceships. Also
>black library

>>50612108
I... don't really get how that was bait?

>>50612109

>>out

>>50611942
That's actually a Noise Marine in Nurg Cosplay.
>Thosearen'tintestines.binariccant

>>50612118
Those are TRANShumans, not allowed.

>>50612054
Does every response to someone playing something other than the Imperium really need to be this vehement?

>>50612049
If the long line of sight down the centre is intentional, then yeah it's fine. Plenty of corners and elevation.

>>50612134
It's a single shitposter just report all his shitposts, that enough strikes for a 3 day vacation.

>>50612130
It's >>>/out/

c-can relentless models rapid fire and charge?
Is the point of this a nod to DG previously having true grit?

If so, muh dick

>>50611974
Awaken, my sons!

>>50612151
Yes they can

>>50612151
yes they can.DG marines can double tap their plasma/bolt guns and spray with their heavy bolters, before bringing CC death to the corpse worshippers

What a time to be alive

>>50612151
Yes.

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>>50612129
Everything is bait, Anon.

>>50612151
>>50612160
Who are we talking about and what have I missed?

>>50612135
It's intentional, and thanks

>>50612129
You talked about tau without calling them shit so you tripped a landmeme.

>>50612168
Death guard. they are now the best chaos legion, rules wise

>>50612168
Traitor Legion rules.

>>50612160

>DG can move, double tap, fire heavy weapons then charge, on top of also getting +1T

>WB get possessed as troops, are slightly better at summoning daemons and get a 6" Zealot bubble around a garbage waste of a HQ.

why must the dark gods forsake me /tg/

how come they don't want me man

>>50612181
look, the WB legion rules makes it very clear: jsut play damons

>>50612176
2nd best, behind alpha legion.

>>50612176
>>50612177
I haven't picked up the book yet, but they already sound perfect. Death Guard are best boys anyway.

>>50612181
We're the Daemon summoners, we really should summon daemons to boost our capability.

>>50612181
>why must the dark gods forsake me /tg/
Because the gods had enough of Horus playing them against one another, make a single choice or fuck off.

>>50612174
This pretty much. Playing Tau is, on /tg/ pretty much the worst thing you can do second to admitting you like them

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>>50612181

>>50612181
TBF, most of the cult legion rules are better than the undevided ones, primarly becase they have to pay for them
>>50612191
i too play alpha legion, but dont delude your self: they are good, but not death guard good

>>50612188
>>50612181
The ideal Word Bearers force is a Daemon army with Word Bearer allies.

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>>50612181
because Nurgle a besto
>great crunch
>great fluff
>great aesthetics
>great psykers

How can other Legions even compete?

This is what indecision gets you

>>50611976
Easy, I play the same kind of army you're mentioning. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, too.

Basically, you want shit like Outflankers, Scouts, Hit-n-Run tactics and all that. Stealthy shit. You can go for Kroot troops, Pathfinders and Vespid fast attacks, stealthsuit and Ghostkeel Elites and Sniper Drone Heavy Support. Remora Stealth Drones for flyers if you're not averse to FW (or build them from scracth, you'll save a pretty penny). I highly recommend Shadowsun and Darkstrider as HQ choices because of the synergy they give.

You don't have to use the Optimized Stealth Cadre formation, much of the hate leveled against you will be because of that shit, so you can just run 2 CADs so you can have plenty of slots for Ghostkeels and Stealthsuits. Or use the formation but never actually use the ability itself. It's optional and you save on slots if you don't want to bring two HQs and 4 units of Kroot.

Focus on outflanking the enemy, ambush tactics and cover-save abuse. That's the way I play my Tau and it's some of the funnest gaming I've ever had, even if I have to struggle against even Orks sometimes.

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>>50612181
Papa Nurgle has always been the most generous with his gifts. He loves his children.

>>50612198
>>50612205

This.

Ideally, Chosen would be troops for WB, to represent a small amount of elite marines, their rank and file are daemons, possessed or spawn.

>>50611974
Not entirely as I need to measure the actual wood and glass, but that does help in terms of scale.

>>50612181

>be WB, possessed are troops now

>Favored of Chaos is not core

Why even live

>>50612226
Sorry m8, small 'leet forces are AL thing

>>50611958
>to be honesnt m8, the GSC rules cna be used to represent a reble uprising, reguadless of sourse.
Not really. They're designed to represent genestealer hybrids explicitly, given the Rending claws, Broodmind discipline, bonus Initiative everywhere, and so forth.

The only way I would let an opponent use GSC rules proxying different models would be if they were Slaaneshi mutants or something.

>>50611974
Also, just realized but you can totally make a kickass Illidan statue conversion out of that.

>>50612211
>How can other Legions even compete?
Well Plague Merine proper did drop to overpiced garbage tier.

Noise marines at least get special weapons to differentiate them from the marked CSM wannabe's.

>>50612226
Alpha legion are the most elite though.

>>50611500
Rumour monger with a really great track record called Lady Atia has vaguely, and I must stress the word vaguely, alluded to Sisters getting a full plastic release 'soon' but she's been so vague about it that they could come out in a years time or even never and she still wouldn't be incorrect.

GW joked about plastic SoBs in a video on facebook and many take this as gospel but frankly it came across as a joke.

One anon here on /tg/ keeps saying Feburary and nothing else even vaguely useful so I'm guessing he's just a troll.

Really it looks like that aside from appearing in Codex Inquisition and getting a failcast Blanche Canoness, it's bussiness as usual for the Sisters and every rumour to the contrary is the usual bullshit.
This time next year nothing would have happened and we'll get another batch of fake rumours.

>>50612232

Ill be home tomorrow, and will measure for you

>>50612017
Magnus has always been a big guy.

>>50612234
>>Favored of Chaos core
If you want to play flyrant spam, play tyranid or field a infernal tetrad.

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>>50612249
Bless you, Anon. I really appreciate it. I'm sorry if it seems like I was being picky or whiny, please understand.

>>50612247
Jesus you guys are so fatalistic.

If Sisters update doesn't happen by the end of February I will literally never give credence to any rumour of them getting updated again.

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>>50612244
Plague Marines have always been the most expensive cult troops. The reason is they last

Morty's boys don't need a crutch, they can fight anything anywhere, just like he taught them

>>50612241
not really: rending claws can be fluffed as mono-blades, intenitive and toughness can be alien tech, combat drugs, crazy training and cybernetics.

the only funny on is the psy stuff, but seeing as most of its powers are telepathy based, you could see it as an alternate set of powers

also
>The only way I would let an opponent use GSC rules proxying different models would be if they were Slaaneshi mutants or something.
that kind of attitude would quickly earn you a lot of ire round my part of the world. being this much of a dick, is very shitty

>>50612212
Thanks, I'll keep all this in mind when reading up on the rules some more.

>You don't have to use the Optimized Stealth Cadre formation, much of the hate leveled against you will be because of that shit, so you can just run 2 CADs so you can have plenty of slots for Ghostkeels and Stealthsuits.
Can you go into more detail about this?

>>50612254
>Word Bearers player wants his "possessed as troops" to actually do something
>player actually wants to take a bunch of the overpriced, ineffectual shits that are possessed
>hurr flyrant spam
Where do you retards come from?

>>50612241
>Rending claws, Broodmind discipline, bonus Initiative everywhere, and so forth.
Oldschool choppas, waagh field, ACTUALLY fired up.

And lets be honest, GSC team TOTALLY walked in and stole the Deliverance Broodsurge formation straight off the Ork work-desk.

>>50612271
And now CSM do the same thing with a 8 point discount.

>>50612274
No, my opponent being like "these are totally Orks even though they're all Initiative 4 with Rending Claws" is what's shitty.

>>50612288
They'd make reasonable counts as for Blood Axes. They're too sneaky for anyone else though.

>>50612254

I do play flyrant spam with my nids, 30 points in troops for 2 flyrants make its effective.

390 min possessed for a DP does not.

>>50612294
Who the fuck is going to proxy orks as GSC?

>>50612294
They're sneeki breeki Orks, they trade -1 toughness for +2 Initiative, and a fuckton of other stuff

>>50612300
alpha legion cultists

>>50611596
>>50611626
From first test sculpt to final product being released is a one YEAR process Minimum.
AoS sculpts, some have been in production for two to three years.
Magnus took close to a year just to sculpt.
Orks, frankly, are far more likely then Sisters here. Especially with the time frame in question.

>>50612275
the Optimized Stealth Cadre is considered to be bullshit because it gives you an ability. It makes your already-good Ghostkeel into a vehicle-raper by throwing positioning into the wind and allowing you to shoot the most vulnerable side (the rear) of the vehicle from any direction. This ability extends to the stealthsuits within a certain range of the Ghostkeel.

But what many people don't consider is that you don't have to use the ability at all. A formation allows you to take certain units by themselves as an army instead of having to focus on the mandatory 1 Hq and 2 Troops of a CAD (Combined Arms Detachment). Normally, each unit of stealthsuits/ghostkeels would take you an Elites slot (1 of 3 available per CAD).

So you can take the OSC formation to save Elites slots for something. It allows you to make an army primarily composed of Stealthsuits, instead of having to take an extra HQ and 2 Troops as Tax!

It also technically allows you to take nothing but XV25s and keels, but that's not as fun nor effective... but it's up to you!

>>50612318
Sisters have been done for months.

>>50612291
>do the same thing
u wot m8

>>50612254

>comparing the best Nid formation to Literally CSM Possessed

son

no


Possessed are the worst unit in CSM, and are in the top 5 worst units in the game. I can see Word Bearers players trying anything to get them to be at least decent, considering what a big part they play in their legion's fluff, and now they can get them as troops.

>>50612336
the only thing PMN get over DG marines is blight grenades and plauge knifes. oh and they trade relentless for S&P, and cost 8 points more

>>50612336
DG CSM with Mark of nurgle are Relentless, fearless, T5, FNP for 16 points.

Plague marines are Telentless, fearless, T5, FNP for 24 points.

>>50612319
Okay, I see (for the most part). I'm assuming that this will make a touch more sense once I'm done familiarizing myself with the game's rules more.

As much as I like the idea of playing an entirely invisible robot army I think some more standard troops to complement would be a good idea. I was considering some of the units like pathfinders and whatnot.

Fluff-wise it could even be part of their schtick to make an enemy think they are a smaller force altogether, drawing in the enemy's attention and getting them confident before the spooky bros pop in from the sides and rear to fuck their shit up.