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>>50559785
My character doesnt need armor. Her faith and her skill in martial arts defend her better than iron or steel would.

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>>50559785
>taking the armor off
>ever

>>50559785
My armor-wearing character only wears the armor for battle or when battle could be imminent. He removes it for sleeping, partying, going to (familiar and safe) markets or shops, attending formal events where armor is not appropriate, and obviously for having sex.

>>50559811
Is that why part of her face is missing?

So why are Drow the best elves?

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Anyone tried the Croupier from Gonzo 2?

>>50559785
Since he stays inside it for crafting, most of the party had rarely if ever seen him out of it for a long time - mostly because they didn't bother.

He does exit the thing to modify or upgrade it, to relax (a rare opportunity) or if there ever was some kind of fancy party or sex to attend to.

It's just that no one has invited him.

>Armored Master: The fighter gains an armor mastery feat or a shield mastery feat (see pages 18–19) as a bonus feat. He must meet all of the feat’s prerequisites.
Where does this come from? I can't find any such categories of feats on the archives or on PFSRD.

>>50560114
Probably weren't flagged properly. They're part of the one armor book though.

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>First draft on bunnygirl race, henceforth known as Inabin (singular and plural). This is just the basic "tewi" race, and the "veira" race will be a separate offshoot with different bonuses and racial stats. I'm just going to drop the stats currently and get some feedback on that, and not get into writing fluff yet.

Humanoid (Inabin)
Size: Medium
Base Speed: 30ft (normal)
Ability score modifiers: +2dex, +2cha, -2wis
Languages: Standard (common, selection of seven others).
Senses (1rp): Low light vision.
Defenses (4rp): Lucky (greater) - A +2 racial bonus on all saves.

Misc (1rp): Jumper - Inabin are always considered to have a running start when making acrobatics checks for purposes of jumping

Skill bonuses (5rp): +2 bluff, +2 perception, bluff and perception are always considered class skills.

Total racepoint value: 11 RP


>Looking to source some ideas for Viera. Apparently in fluff they have a "magic rage" that occurs when they encounter high concentrations of "mist". They're also fairly competent as casters, and can hear the spiritual "voice of the woods". They also function pretty well as fencers, assassins and archers.

do you guys even play this game

>>50560270
Seems like Veira would have +2 Wis to start with. The same sense bonus, perhaps a magic bonus instead of the Luck.

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>>50560283
Bonus to perception and perception as a class skill, but no bluff bonus / bluff as class skill. Loss of luck as well.

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>>50560270
>>50560292
What are the stats for a bunnysuit and high heels?

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>>50560311
One thing that I wanted to keep from the viera influences is the naturally pointed feet.

But otherwise I'd say they're probably regular clothing & stuff that gives a small buff to appearance at the cost of acrobatics checks.

Living Garments.
>These sheer and silky robes, many of which are made of spider silk, are of the finest quality. On command, a living garment can make a number of subtle adjustments to itself, including coloring, fit, and basic design, accommodating and accentuating whatever mood the wearer wishes to convey.
>It always remains clean, and automatically repairs damage to itself at a rate of 1 hit point per round (hardness 0, 4 hit points). It also grants the wearer a +5 competence bonus on Diplomacy checks.

Why would you ever take these off?

>>50560345
What and how do they eat?

>>50560345
I mean, maybe for a psion who feeds it with leftover psionic energy.

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>>50560336
>appearance
Why would you even do this autism?

>>50560386
Where do you think you are?

>>50560386
If its a situation where bunnysuits are coming up it's probably already incredibly autistic and almost certainly magical realm.

>>50560345
Why would you waste money on buying it?

>>50560350
They're enchanted, not actually a living thing.

>>50560406
+5 competence on diplomacy is a pretty good reason

If someone wanted to GM a mix of Shattered Star, Second Darkness, Jade Regent and Rise of the Runelords you will play it?

>>50560434
Give me an idea of the structure, because that sounds a bit loaded. Also chargen rules.

>>50560434
4 aps all at once sounds a bit... overreaching.

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>>50560434
>second darkness
DROW
MARRIAGE

>>50560443
The idea is to use the plot of Rise of the Runelords and Jade Regent as main templates for the story.
The campaign will use the first module of second darkness as a starter followed by the second module of Rise of the Runelords. As the third chapter I'll use the first half of Hook Mountain Massacre and the second half of the third module for Shattered Star.
For the fourth chapter a fusion between Jade Regents's and RotR's fourth modules.
The rest of the chapters will follow the same formula as the fourth.

On the rules maybe I'll go the same route as Rise of the Jade Regent.

>>50560518
That sounds really complicated, and honestly it seems like it asks a lot of the players too.

>>50560518
That sounds really confusing especially since Runelord's endgame isn't the same as Jade Regeant end game and to my knowledge have nothing to do with each other.

>>50560502
No biting.

>>50560533
The idea is what if the lamias of Karzoug allied with the Five Storms.

>>50560546
How?

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>>50560534

>>50560560
Imagine that the first module for Jade Regent was played by Tsuto and his party.

Which kind of wizard are the most powerful ones?

>>50560679

Conjurers

So people were discussig WBL and crafting shit last thread, and I'd like to ask: How big of a cunt am I for not only playing a crafter, but using the rules for rushing items (+5 DC for halving 8 hours of work)?

>>50560791
Are you using crafting to piece together absurd items and enchantments and not the silly kind of absurd like a wand that creates wands, but the game breaking kind? If not then probably not as big of a cunt as you could be.

>>50560434
I'd need more info than that.

... Mostly in regards to chargen (dunno jade regent's either).

I have nothing to say on the story concept itself (I mean this in a good way), since I've yet to play an AP that wasn't drastically altered at the very least to compensate for not the PCs not being drooling PFS players. I can't imagine that playing any of those straight with anyone here would even work out anyways, so "heavily modified" seems to be as expected.

Just need to know if there's any of the AP players guides we need to read.

In Gunslingers of Porphyra, the elemental gun archetype; if multiclassed can it accept burn for those abilities? Do levels of infusion specialization add together, or does the reduction stack? Would the form infusions gained from multiclassing be allowed, since the elemental gun itself doesn't gain any but also does not say it can't use form infusions in any way?

Do the simple energy blasts that lower damage by a die type also do the same to the gun they're loaded in (I imagine yes)? And can this energy be used to fire technological energy weapons, or only bullet-type firearms? This last part is only a question due to 'charges' being different from 'ammo' technically.

Also, since technological firearms ARE firearms but have no misfire, do they begin gaining one if one applies the firearm modifications in the book?

Also one that Anon had added:
>How does it interface with timeworn equipment?

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>>50560679
Diviners.

They're going to know when danger approaches, and are the most likely to act first in combat.

Pic related. I think he's one of the most powerful diviners in Faerun.

>actually start looking at swashbuckler
>realize I think it actually looks kinda fun, at least conceptually
>realization of what I'm thinking sets in

Shit, fuck, time to abort. I don't want to live this kind of charmed life where swashbuckler is something I look at and think would be fun, but panache is such a neat concept and I wish deeds weren't full of garbage.
>paizo will never unfuck swash's action economy, make charmed life not-shit, let it take weapon training stuff, or give it social talents

Do "you ignore X points energy resistance" abilities work with each other? Like if I'm a destruction caster with penetrating blast and Elemental Focus(from path of war)?

>>50561811
they don't stack if that's what you mean.
If you can ignore ten, and another ability lets you ignore five, you ignore ten.

>>50560617
Human women are depraved.

>Remove Arcane failure rate due to armor

How would /pfg/ feel about this house rule? Would it help mages or hurt them? Would it encourage Martial/Magic multiclassing? Would it make it too strong?

>>50562113
but why

>>50562113
Unoptimized casters would probably be slightly better. Magus would take a very slight hit since they're losing a class feature.

Is it me or is Spheres Invisibility insanely good for the investment? 2 talents for what amounts to a slightly weaker Greater Invis for a spell point for 1/min a Level?

>>50562113
Wizards would put on full plate, grab a shield, and never care again. It would save them a few spell slots and they can afford to max it out since they don't have a weapon. This would let them put on shit like time buttress on there.

They'd now have equal or better AC to the average martial, similar resistances and protection from crits/sneak, while still having the miss chances, the interrupts, etc that already made them tough to do much to.

>>50562113
Make it
>Having proficiency with a type of armor removes arcane spell failure
instead.

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Hey all, the LK 2 playtest is being pushed back a bit, had some setbacks and some other issues, but you'll be seeing it soon enough.

>>50562464
So one level dip in fighter for all casters then?

>>50560270
>another dex/cha race

What would it take for paizo to make a rip-off of Brutal Slayer Stalker, but for like, URogue or Investigator? Mainly the Str in place of Dex part of it. Maybe with an additional mental stat portion as well?

Was debating attempting to homebrew it, along with a Perform-based gimmick archetype that could stack, but I dunno. Homebrewing is fun, but it gets sad knowing even if it comes out good it would probably get rejected at most tables.

>>50560416
Yeah, but you can get competence from a lot of sources, and they don't usually stack.

>>50560345

... So that's a body slot item. Djezet skin's an armor slot item. Djezet skin is also a circumstance bonus.

So I know what my next bard is wearing.

>>50559785
All the time. At night he've been caught defending the camp more then once either unarmored or with an hastily don one. Sleeping in heavy armour isn't something he does unless the party is in enemie territory. Part of our spellcaster morning ritual include helping my warrior get into the damn thing. Otherwise he wears rich garments with light armour when in a town or travelling in friendly territory and without armour when attending the ball or other events where being arm wouldn't be appropriate.

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So I want to be a giant, hulking beetle man who sets up flank buddy opportunities, is beefy, and possibly shield bashes or grapples a lot. How would I best go about this?

>>50561742
A Halfling Swashbuckler at level 1 can have an AC of 21 against anything bigger than him, with the ability to hit like a truck in return. Just focus all of your Panache into parrying/riposting and you're never dying.

>>50562893
I'd still be a swashbuckler, though.

>>50562924
Yeah but you'd be amazing in, say, Giant Slayer. (this is what I'm running in that campaign)

>>50562997
Well duh a class whose only gimmick is "hit dudes" would be good in a campaign that revolves around "fight and hit dudes". It's the fact it can't do anything outside of that that gets me, on top of all the garbage it has on it.

Thread sure is dead today

Did it die because the realization that only certain people's characters get picked for games set in and destroyed all hope?

Whats going to happen when literally dozens of people don't get selected for RotJR

Is it because we have a garbage animu op instead of a good one?

>>50563462
Finals

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>>50563462
Fuck man I just want to make a beetle PC.

>>50563462
I've got a serious dilemma anon. I got in to Hell's Vengeance, so if times work out for RotJR, should I still apply, or should I withdraw?

>>50563492
No

>>50563489
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/monstrous-races-21-30-rp/trox-28-rp

what do you guys recommend as a level up bonus for a wizard

>>50563533
'level up bonus'

Do you mean favored class bonus?

HP.

>>50563492
had the same problem

was considering dropping myself, or lowering my app to 'if other people can't play i'm happy to fill out the roster'

>>50563229
I mean I don't know if it's just me but he's also fairly good at being a face the way I built him, even without needing his Panache for utility stuff.

>>50563492
>pulling out
Anon, I don't know if you'd be a good fit in either game with that attitude.

>>50563492
>>50563540
Depends, who are you in HV and RotJR

>>50563532
>-2 to Int, Wis, Cha
Fucking why? That's horrendous.
How do you even overcome that?

>>50563566
I was considering dropping from RotJR since i'm in HV

I want as many people to have games as possible, since I have mine.

I suspect my character wouldn't get selected for RotJR anyways

>>50563536
I'm kind of new to TTRPGs so this probably sounds retarded, but why not increase skills?

>>50563560
Well, uh, I'm already in HV? I'm saying since I have the spot already I shouldn't be greedy and take up a spot in RotJR.

>>50563540
That'd probably be the best choice.

>>50563566
Yori in HV, Lilin in RotJR.

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>>50563589
Nigga, who are your HV and RotJR characters?

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>>50563462
In 'murrica, it's the afternoon on a weekday, right after a holiday, in December. Most fags have work or school shit to do. The rest of us who are disgusting shut-ins probably don't have anything worth discussing at the moment, at least not in any depth.

>>50563492
>>50563540
>>50563592
A lot of the people who got in HV also had really fun, popular characters for RotJR. If side groups really are going to start popping up, then there really isn't a reason to not apply unless you just don't want to have a second game.

>>50559811
Shouldn't she cover up that gaping hole in her cheek? God, I'm gettin' the creeps just thinking about dust getting in there.

>>50563568
a +6 racial bonus to strength and Large Size.

>>50563592
Because as a Wizard you should have 2+int modifier skill points already, aka, an absolute fuckton, and you'll be boosting your int anyways via items and level up bonuses for MORE SKILLPOINTS

And HP is at a premium for you, you have the lowest hit dice, 20 extra HP is as much as a feat for you, without having to spend a feat, or +2 to your con score. Its simply more valuable for you

I wrote some simple passive monster abilities meant to be added onto enemies to make battles more interesting, particularly by making PCs think way more about positioning and prioritising targets.

The idea is that most of them can be pretty common abilities that you encounter every so often. Well, most of them at least, there are a few weirder ones.

What does pfg think? Would you use them in your own games?
http://pastebin.com/jciHsMEc

>>50563614
Shizuka/Rinka

>>50563630
patpatpat

>>50563619
Who are the people in HV who don't have popular characters in RotJR?

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>>50559960
More interested in the Henshin Hero, but sure, might write up a statblock for Venom sometime.

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>the majority of the people who got in HV will likely all get in RotJR as well.
I should just give up now

>>50562833
Synthesist summoner?

>>50563661
Well then get together with all the depressed fags who didn't get in and start your own group, with hookers and blow.

>>50563661
Some people are just better at making interesting characters than you.

>>50563646
Well let's see...
Rinka in RotJR is Shizuka in HV.
Song Lilin in RotJR is Yori in HV.
Casimir in RotJR is Tyran in HV.
Khair, Zeldana, and Maxima in RotJR is Sersheon in HV.

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>>50563691
I've tried to write a good character for RotJR. How can I get better at it?

>>50563691
Personally, I'm more worried that people like me are gonna be passed over just because we got in late, or because we might not have optimized to hell and back.

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>>50563619
>disgusting shut-ins

Only until I have enough money for spring tuition.

It's never going to happen, is it? I'll never even so much as see a minimum-wage interview, never mind a career. I'm going to waste away and die in here before I even turn 30.

Uh, I mean, quick, /pfg/, if all your characters suddenly became monsters matching their general outlook on the world, what would they be?

>>50563629
because I'm completely new to this and am making a character for a game starting soon (1st level) what would be good 20 point buy build for my wizard

>>50563705
What I did was a) try and tie my character to the world, b) try and include some plot hooks, c) have an obvious and definite goal, and d) talk to somebody else who submitted a character and start talking over ideas for interactions. Might want to try doing it publicly--make it more obvious you're trying.

>>50563691
>Some people are just better at making interesting characters than you.
Utterly subjective, especially given that it's hard to say how "interesting" someone is until RP actual starts.
>>50563705
Having a super obvious tropey "gimmick" will make you stand out more.

>>50563705
Who's your current character? I'm bored as hell, so I can definitely help you out now.

>>50563706
>got in late
Applications haven't even opened yet, and the GM has been trying to avoid looking at characters so as not to bias himself.
>optimized to hell and back
Seems to me that the really optimized characters are actually LESS popular, at least with /pfg/.

>>50563477
Finals?
Shit I forgot most of the people posting here are young adults in their undegrad years.

>>50563705

I rewrote Marshall 8 or 9 times before I submitted him. And he was my second character, the first character was pretty bad and it was rewritten 3 or 4 times. I posted him in /pfg/ asking for advice and everything.

>>50563739
You see I think that's a bit fucking weird for the DM to say "alright guys calm down and talk about shit in the other threads" and then everyone who promptly ignores that bit of instruction is essentially being rewarded for it.

>>50563732
your most important stats are

int>dex>con>wis>str>cha in that order

i'd probably go something like

10, 16, 12, 16, 12, 7
and get a +int racial

>>50563757
Who was the first character?

>>50563741
>Utterly subjective, especially given that it's hard to say how "interesting" someone is until RP actual starts.

Strictly, the fact that fresh oven-baked pepperoni pizza is more tasty than stale lettuce is a completely subjective matter too.

How many people a concept appeals to is an objective metric.

Hey /pfg/ I am brand new to TTRPGs (played my first one on Friday). Do you guys write out a character backstory or just kind of wing it? When I rolled my character, the DM also asked me some questions about him to help form him up, but I also went a wrote a backstory based on my answers and the traits I took. Even threw a couple of hooks in there.

>>50563809
i try not to write out too much of a backstory, enough to explain who they are and where they got their worldview from.

>>50563772
whats the best race in general for a wizard

>>50563749
Didn't say it was a rational worry--just that it's still buggin' me. But at least that makes me feel a little better, thanks bro.

>>50563824
Yeah, it's not like a biography, but I wrote about his parents a little, how he got introduced to druidism, how he lost his first animal companion, and why he was where he was when he met the party.

>>50563809
What sort of game is this? One shot, quick few weeks, short campaign, AP? It really depends, since for something short I don't spend as much time. For long term things though I like to have a page or two of backstory.

>>50563840
Elf.

>>50563840
The best race for everything is unironically a human

>>50563809
Always write a few key points out in case the GM wants to build off it. Try to build something cohesive, but at least a few points.

Something that makes them seem like an actual human being. (or non-human being)

>>50563852
>>50563855
pros/cons

>>50563791

Ned.

>>50563859
Figure one should actually separate those key points from the backstory to make them more obvious, or just include them in the narrative?

>>50563840
Lashunta

>>50563871
Elf
>cons
-2 con
-dirty fucking knife ear
-actually playing an elf
human
>pros
-literally no cons
-free fucking feat
-not a disgusting demihuman

>>50563889
No dark vision.

>>50563871
>>50563889

Elves also get +2 spell pen

>>50563852
It's a campaign and not a one shot, but I'm not entirely sure how long it's supposed to be. A few months at least, I imagine, since we meet once a week(the other guys had a few sescions before I joined).

>>50563871
Elf has +2 dex/int, the two most important stats for a wizard, and race traits designed specifically for wizards. On the downside it has -2 con, which no one really wants.

Human has a flexible +2, which is going to go into int, and a free feat which is great for a level 1 start, but doesn't have the nice suite of bonuses an elf has access to.

>>50563914
Doesn't have to be too long. Half a page is what I'd write, and flesh the rest out as I go.

>>50563884
we're playing rise of the runelords and I can only use races that would logically be able to join the party

>>50563926
>Half a page is what I'd write
Cool, that's what I got. I'll even post it she I get home, if there's interest.

>>50563889
How'd you get out of the witcher/Dragon Age universe?

Get back in there. -Whack whack.-

>>50563953
You came from Numeria, you can walk. Maybe someone you knew wanted to see the Swallowtail, maybe you saw some shit and are on the run from the League and the sure as fuck won't find you in a frontier town.

>>50563968
>this is what demihumans actually believe

ecks dee

>>50563882
Nah, trust your GM to be competent, unless you think they're not.

>>50563889
Real Talk:
Elf
>pros
- +2 Int is basically a free skill point per level
- immune to sleep spells, bonus against enchantments
- bonus to perception
- low-light vision (it's better than nothing)
>cons
- constitution penalty
- your weapon proficiencies are, apart from elven curve-blade, either stuff you won't use or are already proficient in
- almost no decent racial options

Human
>pros
- +1 skill point per level
- free feat that could be anything you want, can be traded for three skill focus feats if you need one for eldritch heritage or something
- ability bonus goes wherever you want
- some really broken racial options (Heart of the Fields for a barbarian, for example)
- Racial Heritage lets you break into other races' cool shit
- some really great favored class bonus alternatives
>cons
- kind of basic bitch
- can't qualify for some cool niche stuff other races have

>>50563809
It depends heavily on the GM, the tone of the game itself, and how much effort I feel like putting into the character. Usually just a few bulletpoints for character traits and vague "they did this, had this happen, now they're here" background is good enough.

For example, for an alchemist I just kind of slapped shit together, like so:
>lost his wife and child to a plague
>is a half-elf whose human dad was an asshole adventurer who did a pump-n-dump to an elf
>lived with his elven mother for a while so he could get on his feet again
>fascinated with old ruins and ancient civilizations

Boom, done. GM took me aside at some stages and would say "hey, this vague part of your backstory would tie together really well with this thing in the campaign, wanna do that?", to which we'd work out a few things and boom. Instant character and backstory development.

Does anyone have a link to that Handy haversack list containing a "this is what you should carry around" for the handy haversack?

>>50564039
https://78462f86-a-abd8972e-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/geekindustrialcomplex.com/www/downloads/files-page/handyhaversackpackv1.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7cpR39jKSZVZiINYMEnXoaQK07pMsC5FSaZCV3E_4E1FoHmsf4RWiHHf_eabqiradnCz6LJlfHyGrRdaLGK1-c9-MVYW4x62GE_sRtg7Y8ICtIBIsmw18vWh53_K5FoH0z189je8xbO70y9w_yfPCwCenAedbGS2eIluczXma_QmANwmJMRn9KJhbpr67Cl8b9Cc_X44Ku0bGp-Rm6GjAZcni2JmNGZmeIDknTiPoKQ1bh-kB0w9Q1Qi_mqrSU9yznfgsTiB&attredirects=1

>>50563889
Elves can have free Spell Focus TWICE at level 1.

>>50564060
By which racial traits? I only see the one that grants Spell Focus.

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>>50563749
My character is Silvia: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1012293
I've been working on a revision of her backstory:
http://pastebin.com/baHKULxm

It's not quite done and I need to rework the personality section on her sheet to make her more independent and less "abloobloo" as some would say. What ideas or improvements should I make?

>>50563741
What Gimmick/trope would help her stand out more?

>>50563739
Do you think she's tied to the world and has enough plot hooks? Does her goal seem obvious enough?

Reposting my question from last thread. Am playing a Void Wizard and I want to know whether or not this spell is worth taking.

Can Haunting Mists affect the spell's caster?

I would think that being the caster would count as having proof that the illusion is false in terms of avoiding the saving throw, but the spell is considered to be both a Figment and a Shadow Illusion, and I know that certain Shadows, like Phantasmal Killer, explicitly can affect the caster., so I'm not sure about this.

It seems like it would be a pretty bad spell if it affects the caster, since its effect is initially centered on the caster.

>>50563961
do it

>>50564113
Seems okay so far, she's plenty entrenched in the setting, but might want to add some rider onto her goal that's more definite and achievable than "see the world".

>>50564113
>What Gimmick/trope would help her stand out more?
Something super simple, obvious, and easy to digest. If your character can't be summarized by a tvtropes section you're doing it wrong.

Don't forget to shill them at every opportunity too.

>>50564153
Would something like "find other people like her/find her heritage" be good enough?

>>50563741
Is "Quixotic chivalry otaku" a decent enough trope

>>50563462
>RotJR

What? Rise of the Jade Regent? Am I missing something?

>>50564224
Yes

>>50564224
Where have you been? Rise of the Jade Regent is the campaign people here have been talking about for the past MONTH. It's the first book of Rise of the Runelords (Burnt Offerings) into the entirety of Jade Regent. Paizo, PoW, SoP, as well as some other things, level 3, 25 PB, gestalt.

>>50564174
Yeah, seems good.

>>50564121
The saving throw only says will partial and doesn't say anything about disbelief, so having proof that it's an illusion doesn't count for anything(compare with other illusions, most of which have saving throw: will disbelief). Going by RAW, I would say that it does affect the caster, since the wording doesn't indicate otherwise.

>want to apply for RotJR
>I'm probably already too late to even try
Oh well.

>>50564249
So yeah, half waifu shit and relationship drama, half bitching and squealing about powerlevels and tiers.
And touhou, but that might have been more HV's problem.

>>50564262
>applications haven't even started yet
>"too late to even try"

nigga, we're in straight up theorycraf territory as far as characters go.

>>50564262
Applications don't open for almost a month, may as well try.

>>50564271
Yeah, 2hu was only in the HV discussion.

>>50564262
J A N U A R Y
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>>50564273
>>50564276
>>50564282
Dang, and here I thought that the pages of discussion I found skimming through the archive (I've been under a rock) meant it was already too late.

So I guess I can just talk about it here? Alright. Guess I can try whipping something up after all.

>>50564271
2hu showed up for RotJR too but it was like weeks ago

His HV shittery was more recent

>>50564291
Someone get this man the roll20 link so he can get the chargen rules and shit

>>50564282
No, that was at the outset of RotJR discussion before the GM said call down.

>>50563703
Who else is popular in RotJR?

Ricktor? That's the only other one we really talk about often.

>>50564255
Any other advice? I'm a bit stuck on how to write her personality better.

>>50564258
Well damn, I guess I won't take that then. I don't want to accidentally give myself brain damage on a bad roll.

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>>50564310

>>50564310
Amalthea, Svana, and Onryou for THICC
Gil for LITERAL ANIMAL
Keva for PanzerCreed being a FUCKING LEGEND

>>50564356
Didn't Svana drop out?

Would.... would a female Trox look the same as a male Trox? Is there sexual dimorphism?

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>>50564356
I'm not sure whether to be happy or upset that Anja is far less memed than other characters - I mean, she's got 20 charisma.

I guess what's what happens when you go full eldritch.

I knew pathfinder generals were formed by a clique, but I had no idea you people even fuss about who is the most popular ditzy girl of them all

I hope you don't just talk about boys.

>>50564310
Onryo
Shizuka, but desu this seems more like an extentension of the Onryo fixation desu.
Casimir
Gil, mostly just shit posting
Riktor, granted this is mostly just shit posting about NTR memes
Liln
Almathea, made by the same person who made Onryo

I'd say those are the big ones, and most of them were pretty much created in thread/talked about non stop by the creators.

>>50564356
>Keva for PanzerCreed being a FUCKING LEGEND
I don't think anyones found Keva notable aside from being an extension of the player not being able to into Pathfinder.

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>>50564418
We can talk about (you) if you'd like.

>>50564436
Most of those were memed because thiccposters can't keep in their pants

>>50564436
Panzercreed is a fucking legend though

>>50563646
I'm Dierdre.

I uh...

really didn't apply to rotjr at all and i dont think my character in hv was that popular to begin with.

so yeah

You have 10 seconds to praise the roleplaying of one person you played with.

>>50564483
The only HV chars that got memed were Shizuka and the lawyer anyways

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>>50564494
>playing
hahalol.I wish.

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Honestly, outside of the extreme meme characters, a lot of the RotJR character pitches just hit the "possibly a little dull but workable for a pitch, just not very meme-able" mark. Some of them could probably be better, but reworking and reworking a character concept starts to get silly after a while. Plus, even if you try to ask the thread for help, that's all subject to whether your character can grab attention enough to make anyone care about them. Like how Song Lilin was a pretty plain pitch, but grabbed peoples attention because she was adorable and her "literally from Minkai" backstory needed to get reworked in order to keep that part of the campaign from losing its mystique.

I'm still amused that literally the only comment about Sieghard that I got was "why does the tiefling have a fluffy tail". Somehow that made me a little torn on whether to just drop the Promethean meme to avoid the headaches, as well as to avoid being basically a one-player dualapp.

>>50564504
Futa chick/Dog fucker.

Making roleplaying into a competition is kinda silly.

>>50564494
>playing
>/pfg/

>>50564317
Well her backstory implies she might be kind of shy and bookish from what's there at the moment.
Maybe add in a little bit of interactions with others or how the traits you want to come across have affected her--some stuff you could probably just say in its own sentence ("she likes to eat big meals"), but could also have some little offhand comment about how she's torn between frugality and the desire for lots of fine food--or that she's frugal *because* she wants to afford big meals.

This is Rubio's player, BTW, so take it with a grain of salt--I don't know how good a writer I am, and I'm considering a rewrite of his character blurb myself

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>>50564494
lia is really cute and lewd and a strong driver for my interest in kingmaker!!!

>>50564568
I was thinking of doing one more section that'd give a bit of interactions with some other paladins, but I worry that the backstory might be getting too long for the "sweet spot" of app length. I could definitely put some of it into the personality/flaws section on the character sheet.

>>50564494
I mean, Byron and Isabelle are pretty neat.

I'd promise not to suck up as much of the team's healing resources in the future, but we both know the dice will have other ideas.

>>50564640
>implying your ass won't get crit to near death again in the near future

>>50564640
If you're reading this, I hate how you turn game night into Political Theory Lecture Hour, but at least you roleplay your characters well when you're not using them as a mouthpiece.
God that turned out way more backhanded than I'd planned.

>>50564632
Eh, some people have gone pretty long with theirs so I figure it's not a problem. Might be wise to truncate the Roll20 post and put the full version on the character sheet? I'unno.

>>50564686
I do wonder how the app process will go with RotJR. Will we just repurpose the character thread?

>>50564494
QANON's characters are always very cute.

>>50564671
Wait, huh?

>>50564719
I think that anon replied to the wrong person.

>>50564520
It's things like this that make me worry about Amandia's odds. I honestly don't know how I can exactly expand on her concept aside from what I already have done, and her background's kinda tough to explain in any other circumstance.

And my attempts at a backup char seem rather...bland, between roughish Shonen Protag Elemental Avowed voiced by KI3!Cinder and a knight whose mother is a dragon and father is a very tsun knight, whom I'm struggling to put into classes.

>>50564719
Yeah, sorry--that was for the "praise someone you played with".

>>50564701
If I was the GM I think I'd go mad looking though 60+ different applications, especially if the majority were good.

First I'd probably pare it down to the times I could run, and hopefully filter out all the people who can't fit it into their timetable.
Then I'd make a second thread asking people to post if they're still serious about applying, because a number of people in the character thread might have lost interest or not have been too serious in the first place.

Then hopefully it would be a reasonable number.

Alternately, stick everyone into a PvP arena and see who makes it out on top.

>>50564768
Who the hell is the strongest posted character mechanically anyway?

>>50564768
I'd do it entirely based on memeability and who I think would make the best conflicting story.

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>>50564768
>"May the Highest Op Win"

>>50564768
There is also one solution
Ask if anyone wants to make their own game as GM

>>50564800
I would if I got to play a DMPC.

I'd give him exactly the same resources as the party (in terms of character creation), but make him MUCH more optimized.

>>50564799
>Panzercreed wins because everyone ignores their

>>50564817
**
>Panzercreed wins because everyone ignores their character at first then they nat20 against the last one standing

4chan sending my posts too early

>>50564800
I wish I could GM but I've never tried, and a level 3 gestalt+3pp game sounds too high a hurdle to start with.

>>50564844
I could absolutely GM a gestalt game with PoW. I've never bothered to look into SoP or Psionics much, but I'll have a lot of free time soon enough to read up on them, being that I'm graduating from college in 4 days.

I also need to figure out how to use roll20 tools

>>50564871
I'm like a month into the RotJR thing and I still have never learned Roll20.
How fucked am I.

>>50564844
Players are responsible for how much they optimize
"Either you guys tone it down or enjoy too easy campaign"
They can walk away if they are not happy with that.

Here is the inventory of my level 4 fighter.

Am I missing anything vital?

Gear:
+1 Cloak of Resistance - 900gp
MwK ECB - 320gp
EBS - 80gp
Mwk Long Bow - 100gp
100 arrows - 5gp
MwK Kurki - 308gp
Lance - 10gp
Heavy Flail - 35gp
MwK Breast Plate - 350gp
Chain Shirt - 100gp
MwK Heavy Steel Shield - 165gp
Combat Trained Heavy Horse (Self Raised/Traineds) - 66gp 6sp 6cp
Barding (Scale Mail) - 200gp
Traveler's Any Tool - 250gp
Masterwork Thieve's Tools - 100gp
Contents of >>50564051
1 sets Hot Weather Clothes - 15gp
4 sets Traveler's Clothes - 20gp
13pp 84gp 49sp 54cp on hand

For reference we are in a hot weather environment.

>>50564892
That's awful advice.
Barring the odd outlier where paizo had no idea how difficult they made something, APs are easymode balanced around the awfully built paizo iconics.

>>50564899
Wait, add a few things I forgot.

2 Book, Journal - 20gp
Ink - 8gp
3 Inkpens - 3sp

>>50564919
AP's aren't balanced around anything.

They literally aren't playtested at all.

>>50564249
>>50564271

So if I get this right you play the first book of Rise of the Rune Lords and follow up with Jade Regent? And I infer people do this has to do with the main NPC that you escort and becomes Empress.

>>50564899
>multiple sets of clothing
>all those weapons
>horse
y tho

>>50564919
Anon.
But that is what I am saying.
The point is that if the GM does not want to tune every single encounter, the players have to rein in their lust to powergame somewhat to keep them interesting

>>50564936
You didn't know one key thing, it's ERP.

>>50564887
panzercreed is that you

>>50564953
No it's not.

Lewd Level is decided by final party, players fucking each other if they so desire will be on their own time.

>>50564936
Well, no reason she *has* to. One of the PCs could if she dies/marries them/is convinced to abdicate (shouldn't be hard, she seems the type who'd like adventure and travel more).

But yeah, it seems to be mainly because Ameiko and Shalelu and the town they're from all have a lot of backstory that gets covered in Burnt Offerings.

>>50564951
The issue is there is a difference between power gaming and somehow making high point buy gestalt characters as bad as the iconics.

One would have to actively try and make their character shit.

>>50564899
>>50564926
I recommend getting a pound or two of salt, and you're lacking a mirror (which can double as a hand periscope to peer around corners). Have you considered a tent?

Also, you don't need the pens because of the any-tool.

>>50564944
Because having shit on hand is useful.

>>50564967
>paizo actually made an 11 cha paladin 'iconic'

remember this.

>>50564892
Only up to a point. In a game with gestalt, high point-buy and a whole bunch of houserules, the players have every reason to complain if the GM hasn't made adjustments as appropriate for such high-powered character creation.

>>50564959
>>No it's not.
Yes it fucking is, you pedantic autist. It's ERP, plain and simple.

>>50564958
Nope just a guy who hasn't used roll20 before. I started the tutorial, but I had to stop cause I ran out of time for it.

>>50564983
>might have some tits and sexual situations

>ERP

I just got my first Magus Arcana - what should I grab? Already have an arcane bond item, so not sure if I can have a Familiar.

>>50564959
People say that as if it somehow means it will turn the game into an R-13 romcom.

The fact it's being called a lewd game means it will have a decent minimum level or sexual things happening.

>>50564967
>One would have to actively try and make their character shit.
No they don't. Not paizo iconic bad, but you can still make a mediocre gestalt character because some things straight up do not benefit at all from being gestalted unless you cheese it.

>>50564967
We are adults here, we do not need to pretend there are only extremes
Maybe you should sometimes gestalt as an opportunity to try something weird instead of finding the best possible gestalt combo

It can't be impossible to show some self-restraint.

>>50565006
a black blade :^)

Which RotJR character would you want to get a lap pillow from?

>>50564983
>If the party wants to ERP, then it's ERP. If they want to grab a few butts here and there without anything major happening, that's what happens. If Ropers that get a bit too touchy-feely are fair game then they'll show up, and if horses possessed by evil spirits that are fans of rape are off the table then they won't be there (assuming they're encounters, but you get the idea).
Quote from the GM.

>>50565005
>sexual '''situations''' like "teehee we're fucking"
No, it's very much ERP. Own up to that.

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>>50565033
one thats both soft and nicely cold

>>50563606
>Lilin
You should stay just to be safe, your character's great!
Also, the joke was "pulling out" with potential lewds in the game. It was a double entendre.

>>50565010
And it is always fucking awkward

>>50565021
A mediocre gestalt character completely blows the paizo iconics out of the water.

>>50565033
Grayson.

>>50565010
>>50565005
>>50564959

Panzercreed may have jumped the gun when he said we should sort the applicants by lewd preferences, but the idea of a 'lewd game' is so nebulous that I really do think the community would benefit from some semi-objective scale of how to measure a game's lewdness.

>>50565037
>IF THEY PARTY WANTS

key point

>>50565010
Honestly I was thinking more R-rated movie.

>>50565037
see
>>50565010


>>50565053
Exactly. Shit doesn't belong here at all.

>>50565067
its literally better than what we have without it

bitching about 2hu and PoW

>>50565044
Half of the people said they don't even want to participate in "lewdness" and certainly don't want to ERP.

>>50565064
How R-rated?
Serbian Film or Deadpool?

>a game with sex on the side means the game is focused on sex
Jesus, it's like saying Lord of the Rings is a 'sexventure' just because Sam sucked Frodo's dick one time.

>>50565078
I only said that because I've never ERP'd and am nervous.

>>50565070
at least they're honest about what they're talking about instead of pretending its something else

>>50565078
And I think those people are hurting their chances of getting in.

>>50565060
A good chunk of people have stated they aren't interested in ERP and if they are not in session.

>>50565028
It's not about "the best possible combo". You actively need to find a bad combo and play style to be on the same level as Harsk or the iconic paladin (don't remember her name).

They are actually bad to the point that even putting a high number in your primary stat outclasses them, let alone at high point buy.

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I had a dream last night, I was DMing a lewd game and I was describing kobolds assaulting the female player's character

It wasn't lewd it was just awful

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>>50565087
>sucked Frodo's dick one time.
What?

>>50565087
>he thinks it matters whether the ERP is a super-central focus or not

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>>50565103
this feels oddly relevant

>>50565094
They might be. DHB said he doesn't want to ERP and any "lewdness" he participates in will be with NPCs and non sexual in nature (I'm guessing just doing romance system things).

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I fucking hate players that try to leverage their backstory for sick gains. One of the people I played with used to do it on pretty much all of their chars.
>be me, first time DM
>story mainly focussed on warring kingdoms and a previously unseen threat rising to undermine the weakened kingdoms
>player wants to play a noble/heir to the throne
>seems cool
>story begins with the party finding themselves in the aftermath of a battle with everyone else dead
>player goes around and gets every soldier he finds to follow and protect him
>in the end he has like 8 soldiers accompanying him
>would've been way more had I not intervened and made up shitty reasons why other soldiers can't accompany him
>combat bogs down to a halt because of the 8 additional npcs that need to be controlled
>tell him his entourage is detrimental to the game, but he tells me "Oh but they're fine. It would be worse if I had made a wizard"
>same party has a wizard who is integrating just fine
>no one is having fun except for the player
>start throwing more difficult encounters at them to cull the herd
>after the first few soldiers die the player complains that I'm taking away his fun
>complains when I don't let the soldiers level up with him
>as a result of the more challenging encounters a player dies without having made any mistakes.
>feelsbadman.carpet
>eventually other players step in and tell him his entourage is annoying the fuck out of everyone, so we get him to send them off
>it didn't end with that though
>he takes whatever he wants from the people
>he has enough diplomacy to convince reluctant merchants to give up their stuff
>occasionally throw in people that won't have any of his shit, but would make no sense to just outright cockblock him with every merchant.
>as a result have to withdraw magical items almost completely from merchants because he'll just request them for the war effort.

Unrelated rant, but I just stumbled upon my notes for that game and the memories came flashing back.

>>50565104
What, didn't your copy have that chapter? Must have been the wrong edition.

Man, Dwarven lore in Pathfinder is pretty cool

>Get told by their God to scramble for the surface if they ever feel the earth beneath their feet quake, aka Quest for Sky
>Starstone events
>They literally crusade for 300 years to reach the surface, facefucking anyone in their way like an unstoppable force
>Accidentally unleashed so many modern evils onto Golarion's surface, like orcs that were pouring out of caves like Syrian refugees

Why does no one ever play a dwarf? They sound pretty solid as a race and they get a shitton of cool feats.

>>50565104
>he hasn't read the brojob chapter

>>50565096
Why are you bringing the paizo iconics into this
Are you uncapable of thinking about playing less powerful characters to let the GM run it with minimal encounter tuning?
Even if the alternative really is that, you don't get someone to GM for you?

>>50565137
>dwarves

laughingelves.jpg

>>50564436
I'm not sure whether I should be happy or sad that Shizuka's mostly only popular because "is a non-thick Kaijitsu".

Speaking of which, I'm not sure how to make Shizuka less boring. I've gotten her to be more of a daredevil and thrillseeker, but I'm not sure where else to go; she's lived in Sandpoint all her life, what am I to do?

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>>50565134
>>50565142
>only once

>>50565113
So do people in you game worlds make no reference to sex, sexuality, or anything that can be construed as such?
>>50565085
Deadpool. Like nothing that would be too much for a late night cable /tv/, you know?

>>50564622
Who are all these cuties?

>>50565154
let the actual story do the rest.

>>50565158
>all dat jumping around

>>50565167
my kingmaker group

>>50565127
Had the same problem with a dude who cajoled me into letting him play a broken as fuck 3.5 race. I let him because I thought it'd be good RP potential, but then he just refused to talk to anyone and sulked the whole time he wasn't in combat.
And he'd delay game by hours because he'd make half the party play Monster Hunter with him.

>no link ever posted for >>50564291
Okay guys, I can see I'm not wanted. Enjoy your game.

>>50565149
What's wrong with dwarves? That's what I'm asking really.

>>50565154
She's got a good start--maybe comment on how others see her; whether they feel curious, or whether they try and avoid her, or maybe how she acts around her sister in public.
Perhaps some driving need to step out of her sisters'/father's shadow?

>>50565154
Give her some ambition outside of the "plot" of Jade Regeant. Makes the character feel more alive and "salvageable" if you don't get in.

>>50565127
It's players like this that ruin my chances of playing a noble because of their "lol I'm wealthy and powerful because my story says so".

>>50565208
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/forum/1770733/

>>50565228
That's why I usually go with "noble, but completely broke/disgraced" as my backstory for upper-class types.

>>50565208
Anon, if you were skimming the archives, didn't you see the join link?
If I had the link handy I would give it to you.

>>50565143
>Why are you bringing the paizo iconics into this
Because the APs are designed around the paizo iconics power level. What are you, retarded?

>Are you uncapable of thinking about playing less powerful characters to let the GM run it with minimal encounter tuning?
No I'm saying the level the paizo APs are built around is not the level high point buy, feat tax ruled, gestalted characters can reach without actively gimping themselves.

>Even if the alternative really is that, you don't get someone to GM for you?
Honestly if they make me play at that level? No, I do not enjoy when my character is actively incompetent. I don't want hyper optimization I want competency.

>>50565240
But what if I don't want to have a redemption arc or a motivation arc? What if I want to play a not depressing noble? I can't, that's what.

>>50565188
And who is everyone in the picture?

>>50565208
https://app.roll20.net/join/1770733/2aujeQ
Should have actually asked for the link fucker.

>>50565270
just play a minor noble and take the 'rich parents' trait.

>>50565103
Ironic? Maybe.

But if that one tree's sacrifice saves hundreds of others, how bad can it be?

>>50564971
I have a mirror in the haversack.

I added a tent.

And thanks on the pen.

Why Salt though?

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>>50565127
Some more stories

>another game, be player this time
>that guy plays an inquisitor of the main religion, tries his best to request help from whomever he can. Free treatment/spells from local churches, every pious npc is milked for any advantage
>personally have to fight the urge to kill him IC, especially because it would be completely reasonable for my character to do since ideologies directly oppose each other.
>it would be fine if he just worked his story in a bit but he really just used it to get an advantage wherever he could and whenever he was cockblocked by the DM he’d complain that it made no sense.
>another campaign
>be player again but another person is DMing
>mostly about monster-of-the-week
>there’s an order of monster hunters that communicate with magic stones in the setting’s lore
>that guy: “oh I’m part of that order”
>uses magic stone to call in the swat team whenever we were about to face a strong monster and weren’t pressed for time
>otherwise cool hunts were usually devalued by the swat team of monster hunters rolling in and stealing atleast part of the spotlight
>next campaign we cull him from our roster after a year or so in total and games have never been better.

The saddest part was that the guy wasn't even a bad roleplayer. He always made unique characters and roleplayed them well. He was just a whiny bitch ooc and leveraged his backstory for whatever advantage he could get.

>>50565127
That sounds like an awful player more than anything, I've dealt with exactly the type before.
Mainly, they're the type who will try and guilt you into bending the rules for their sake, and kick up a big fuss about it.

I've played with a princess PC before, who used their status and authority for significant things and steered some scenes like that, but they never took it over the top and it always contributed to the group rather than stole the spotlight.

>>50565269
Well if you cannot under no circumstances stand it, too bad.
Combat is not even the highlight of pathfinder to me, so I would easily enjoy it nonetheless.

>>50565286
You always should have some salt on you.

Need to flavor some food? Salt
Slugs? Salt.
Demons? Salt.
Black cat? Salt.
Spilled some salt? Salt.
Ice on the roads. Salt.

>>50565271
From right to left,
>Lia Anrasseli, the boot knight. Myrmidon fighter. Has a thing for Lucerna
>Emma Trolljegeren, Feyspeaker druid. Probably the least lewd party member. (me)
>Scarlett. Telepath Psion. A guy who transferred his mind into a halfling girl's body to save himself from death.
>Magpie. Night Terror Vigilante. the most boisterous party member, is constantly teasing Scarlett.
>Ayla Mao (yes really). Wizard. Can't really say much about her because her player is usually away or half-asleep.
>Lucerna Holicelle. Warpath Follower Empyreal guardian Paladin. Kind of a ditz.
>Pudge. Trollhound. Emma's animal companion. Big green slobbermonster.

>>50565309
>Feyspeaker Druid is the least lewd
How in the world? Is the Night Terror at least memeworthy with "THAT" Social Talent?

>>50565337
she has companion to the lonely and the one that gives her a bonus to attacks if she comes up with a pun

shes truly a treasure

>>50565337
I'm the least lewd primarily because I've somehow fallen into the straight man role, since everybody else is zany, strange, or doing the verbal equivalent of dry humping someone.

>>50565348
Last session, she said as her attack pun versus a giant centipede "If you wish to be crawling in my skin, I'll show you some wounds that will not heal!"

We chose this hell. We encouraged it.

>>50565303
>Combat is not even the highlight of pathfinder to me
You realize that out of combat is just as easily influenced by character competency, right?

No seriously, who is talking about combat?

Do you enjoy when your character can't do thing because he simply doesn't have the skills to accomplish them? Or do you enjoy when you take a character and have to pound them into the "low op" mold despite being high op rules.

Seriously tell me how you would make a 30 point buy gestalt character on the same level of competency, both in and out of combat, as Harsk without actively resorting to making bad decisions. Not interesting decisions, bad ones.

>>50565383
I was tempted to say at the very beginning that you drop the high power rules and go with bog down normal pathfinder

But I bet you would had said that is too boring too

>>50565269
>Because the APs are designed around the paizo iconics power level
AP's aren't designed around anything. They literally just throw shit on paper and hope it sticks. They aren't playtested.

Hey, so that rogue talent in spheres that lets them hawk a hedgewitch secret says "any non-tradition secret". Does that include the "amateur x" hedgewitch secrets that let you get a tradition benefit, or does it only exclude you from getting tradition secrets from a specific tradition you could have gotten by taking the amateur secrets?

>>50565383
You do know you can be bad, without being Harsk bad. Or bad in the sense you can be outpaced by other party members by very nature of them choosing a play style that plays nicer with Gestalt before getting into a concept as vague and tenebrous as "power gaming".

>>50565424
No, that's fine. Lower point buy, not gestalt, easy. I'd be fine with it then.

>>50565427
They are designed with them in mind, but you are right they are very very lightly tested which causes kill encounters.

>>50565442
>You do know you can be bad, without being Harsk bad.
I'm saying that APs assume you are Harsk bad.

EVEN if the players are Harsk bad lots of encounters still need to be rewritten because APs are horrible balanced due to lack of play testing and result in occasionally having massive difficulty spikes that will TPK parties easily.

>>50565445
To be honest, the impact of point buy is overrated.
High point buy allows for more interesting builds, while also not raising the power level of characters by huge margin. High point buy just means you allow more MAD builds.

>>50565479
Gestalt in my opinion raises the power level by a huge margin and doesn't really help anyone aside from those doing something super esoteric.

>>50565137
>wondering whether or not to play a Dwarf Storm Druid
>already have a Dwarf Invulnerable Rager built I'll probably never get to play

>>50565469
A lot of encounters in APs are literally just gear-check encounters.

>did you remember to pack a counter for x thing?
>if yes, you breeze through it or at least treat it like any other fight
>if no, you TPK because you probably can't run away anyway

>>50565494
If everyone's on board with doing something super esoteric, then what exactly is the problem?

>>50565271
>>50565309
GM here with addons
>Lia: Buttknight who will fucking wreck anything at range because Piercing Thunder fuckery. Probably blew the paladin a few times by now.
>Emma: Smaht character with empathy and also has the Twisted Love story feat who has a powerful being lusting for all of her. She has +1 Cloak of Resist that filled out her proportions, if ya get what I mean. She's quite "healthy" in the chest and buttocks with it on.

Lia and Emma tend to act as the Neutral-Chaotic Good buffer against Lucerna's passionate Lawful Goodness.
>Scarlett: Often comes off as a nervous wreck for good reasons sure. Also Emma's smol girlfriend who is prone to panic attacks under stress. Nothing lewd yet aside from the time her clothes were eaten up by a slime.
>Magpie: Shitty little memester. We aren't even 10 sessions in and loathe the stretches for "Clever Wordplay" effects she does. The player comes off reserved but they're as lewd as they come too.
>Lucerna: LG paladin who is lead by her dick and faith. Blindly attracted to cute things, but also a meaner, enough to make small creatures cry and make a bandit blow her after they divulged bandit secrets, and run away after
>Pudge: The real MVP of the show here. Big hp, big bite, whuff.

>>50565509
>If everyone's on board with doing something super esoteric, then what exactly is the problem?
The fact that it's unlikely everyone is on board with doing something super esoteric.

>>50565494
People gestalt so rarely, they might be fine with for once trying something super esoteric

>>50565494
Define 'super-esoteric'. Because at least for a large chunk of people, gestalt is an excuse to do silly things like Soulknife + Aegis for a full-on magical girl, or Alchemist + Barbarian for a Jekyll-and-Hyde character, or a Tome Eater + Living Grimoire for Ultimate Bookworm. None of those are particularly AMAZING builds, but they're fun and they're things that normally wouldn't be any good for regular-multiclassing.

>>50565309
How can you be a Warpath Follower and a Paladin? Aren't those limited to Inquisitor and Warpriest?

>>50565539
Alchemist/Barbarian is extremely strong.

Geltast with half the level gain?

>>50565539
"Particularly amazing" doesn't really matter here.

An Alchemist/Barbarian is much stronger than just a Alchemist or just a Barbarian.

>>50565513
>Blew the paladin
>Lead by her dick
Futa, or just magical?

>>50565550
She's a paladin in-story. The lack of explanation is because I'm a dumbass.

>>50565539
>Soulknife + Aegis for a full-on magical girl,
There's already a prestige class for this. Hardly "silly."
>Alchemist + Barbarian for a Jekyll-and-Hyde character
People do that all the time in the base game as a "get retard high STR" build.
>Tome Eater + Living Grimoire for Ultimate Bookworm
Only legit "odd" thing.

>>50564919
Is Harsk even supposed to survive anything?

>12th level ranger
>Main attack routine is one 1d10+3+1d6 17-20/2x attack at +22 per round

>>50565550
she went through two drafts.

her draft was warpath but shes actually knight's disciple.

>>50565479
I completely agree. We started with 15pb and went up to 20, now 25. People actually go ahead and more closely align attributes to their actual character/personality now instead of scrambling to get 18 in their mainstat. We also get more hybrids that would be neutered on low pb. 25 is so much nicer to play with than 15 to the point that I'd probably think twice about joining a 15pb game.

>>50565577
The knight has a pebis, yes. Cursed pebis. Started with it as part of her back story.

>>50565577
Futa.

>>50565566
That just turns it into insane rocket tag because a lot of defenses are level dependent so you're hyper fragile.

>>50565566
Doesn't really work like that. Gestalt is a powerful boost, but character power increases exponentially with levels.

>>50565605
>>50565606
See her armor? It was custom made.

There's a reason she has a demon head over the crotch.

>>50565601
I am happy when people use PB25 to avoid dumping stats rather than as an excuse to get 22 into their mainstat or something like that

>>50565695
or at least dump far less.

>ITT one guy who plays pathfinder but not for the combat doesn't understand how balance works and they are angrily insisting they do

>>50565605
>>50565606
>>50565646
Very cute!

>>50565695
I use point buy for, as a human for:

18
16
14
12
10
8

>>50565695
>no dumping Cha to 5 and traiting everything for Int
You aren't even trying.

>>50565695
Eh. I like using dump stats for things that aren't necessarily a part of the character. The sickly or clumsy wizard is an interesting flaw to give to an explorer.

>>50565695
I can't bring myself to have a score less than 10 on any pointbuy or character, which is painful to say the least.

>>50565539
The first two are questionably, last one's pretty good. A better example would be

>Literally anything gestalted with Vigilante, because it goes with everything
>Magus||Investigator so you can actually be a scholarly spellsword
>Barbarian||Oracle for a Str/Cha build, and so you could play a kind healer dude who loses his shit whenever his friends are in danger

>>50565780
i still kinda wanna run a game where players have to have one half gestalted as vigilante.

>>50565813
superhero campaign fuckin' when

id be down anon

>>50565734
Nobody dumps con

>>50565832
yeah but i'd have to get the motivation to actually make and run campaign.

>>50565695
What about dumping where it's character-appropriate? Say, a paladin with about 8-9 Wisdom who's a hothead, or a Wizard with the same who's an absent-minded professor type?

>>50565835
I do, sometimes.

>playing 30 point buy
>playing merfolk

Str: 10
Dex: 18
Con: 18
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 18

This feels dirty.

>>50565716
>not going with odd numbers for those every 4th level bonuses

>>50565843
>paladin who wont even be able to cast his spells
Great idea

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im sand and filled with despair over my future

tell me something happy/feel good that happened in your game

>>50565878
>he thinks paladins need wisdom to cast spells

anon...

this isn't 3.5

>>50565843
Well you don't need to dump for that
Hothead paladin to me is the guy who does not level diplomacy but gets intimidate instead

And absent-minded professor has poor perception

Where you put your skill points has higher impact than how your attributes are

>>50565835
>not being squishy

It's like you don't want your Wizards to have actual weaknesses!