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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Destruction Sphere Edition
Do you allow the guy going full SoP dip autism and twinking out Stone Blast to also take Holy Smite and Blood Havoc/Orc Bloodline Arcana?

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Vampire Hunter D Setting Supplement: https://www.dropbox.com/s/onnk3oskhbc5aos/Vampire%20Hunter%20D%20Pathfinder%20Supplement.pdf?dl=0

Old Thread: >>50552071
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It seems a bit soon for a new thread but I guess you guys have been posting more than usual lately so whatever.
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Would YOU play a campaign where you're a group of low level Nexian wizards tasked with fighting Autism Fighter's terrorist organization?
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>>50555217
> twinking out Stone Blast to also take Holy Smite and Blood Havoc/Orc Bloodline Arcana
How is taking Stone Blast "twinking"

Oh man an entire fucking creature group and common defensive ability shuts down my primary mode of operation completely, better not do anything about that.
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Just remember, /tg/.

Dragon Cloaca.
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>>50555241
If I don't post it early I can't troll people with an anime OP.
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>>50555249
I wouldnt want to play in any game with that pile of horseshit.
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So I've figured that you can instantly kill autism fighter with a group of approximately 186 level 1 wizards, all of whom know magic missile.

whats the CR of this encounter.
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Why do you keep trying to drag up old bullshit in the new thread?
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>>50555262
>Oh man an entire fucking creature group and common defensive ability

Evasion isn't common at all.
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/pfg/, quick - if you were in charge of an army tasked with invading Irrisen, which planes and creatures would you call on for aid?
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>>50555217
>Do you allow the guy going full SoP dip autism and twinking out Stone Blast to also take Holy Smite and Blood Havoc/Orc Bloodline Arcana?

I have literally no idea what most of those words mean.
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>>50555286
I was referring to SR and Magic Immunity.
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>>50555295
Angels have immunity to cold and typically some form of fire damage.
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>>50555274
>>50555274
I believe a level 1 character with a PC class is a CR 0 enemy, so worth 100 xp to a level 1 character

so 186 wizards would be something like CR 16 i think?
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>>50555264

Why would I need to remember that, anon?

Everyone knows you're supposed to have sexual relations with a dragon while they're in humanoid form!
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>>50555274
15-20 probably.
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>>50555330

You're good people, anon. Don't ever change.
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GUYS WHAT DO I DO I'M FIGHTING A WRAITH AS A MESMERIST
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>>50555301
Spheres of Power, nerfed casting system. Generalists eat shit, but specialists are very effective.
>stone blast
No SR destructive blast, deals PBS damage, but has to deal with DR
>Holy Smite
Optional Advanced talent that only Good Characters can take, converts all damage into "sacred" which is ressited by nothing and deals bonus to evil creatures(most of the beastiary).
>Blood Havoc/Orc Bloodline
Sorcerer Options that deal +1 damager per die on spells. Popular dip, and pratically NECESSARY for anyone who wants to be a blaster in Pathfinder, period.
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>>50555328
It multiplies when you have a lot of enemies.
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>>50555217
>Avowed Playtest
>Binding Disagreement Clause
I just want to start using this on everyone I come across to give them -6 wis and the condition of 'Serve me loyally to the best of your ability for the rest of your existence' while using Saturday morning cartoon villain logic and plans.

Also, possible to have an option where it gets upgraded to greater bestow curse?
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>>50555295

You gotta finish the Reign of Winter AP before you try such a feat, anon.

Also, I found the best music for Book 1 of Reign of Winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2lwFiIaMAE
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>>50555295
Autism Fighter, just send him in alone.
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So Spheres Destruction is /pfgs/ latest thing to bitch about? What's next?
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>>50555388

How about we talk about you?
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>>50555330
What are you, some kind of pansy? If you're having sex with a dragon there's no thrill to it unless you're willing to potentially get crushed by the literal tons of mass you're thrusting into.
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>>50555387
but if they have 186~ first level casters all of whom know magic missile he'll die no matter what.
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>>50555403
What about me?
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>>50555406
His sword can cast true resurrection on him once per month. He just comes back to life. They need TWO casts of magic missile each.
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>>50555405

I don't want a thrill, I want intimacy! I want to feel their skin against mine as we make love!
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>>50555406

Doesn't he have something that can cast Shield, anyway? Maybe the government that hires him can issue him a wand.
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>>50555411

You too! You too!

What's your favorite color, anon? Who's your favoritest character in HV or RotJR?
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>>50555430
Well there's plenty of skin to go around when you're banging a dragon in dragon form, so much skin in fact that you won't be able to hold it all even WITH an Enlarge Person on you.

(By the way are there versions of Enlarge that go higher than one size category above your current one?)
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>>50555274
You are correct, this is a hole in his defense. I will amend it. Give me a few minutes.
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Bite attack that has grab,
Snapping turtle style lets free grab attempt after missed attack.
Use level instead of BaB for grapple attempts.
Inhale lets you kirby enemies closer to you.

Prepare to be Nommed, Evil!

Tasty Tasty Evil!
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>>50555295
Efreet, Lands of the Linnorm Kings (like they need to be told to go to war with Irrisen), and...possibly a red dragon or two?
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>>50555425
We can optimize this

All we need are 119 Level 1 Sorcerers with the Orc Bloodline and Blood Havoc, as well as Spell Focus (evocation)
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>>50555457
Purple
>HV
Didn't really look at applications
>RotJR
Biased because I made a character, not really satisfied with the backstory though. Apathetic about most other applicants.
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>>50555022
I already had a character planned for the defunct WotR game as a Doomguy expy from Numeria, just replace UAC with Technic League and Hell Portal with Worldwound.
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>>50555443
There HAS to be some kind of limit to how many Magic Missiles a single cast of Shield can take, right? Being able to stop a near-infinite amount of them for a single cast seems a bit silly.
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>>50555467

But scales are rough and make for poor tactile sensation, I want to feel goosebumps on their skin as I ghost my fingers across their back or the warmth of a handful of rump!

Most importantly, I want to kiss them, nibble their ear, whisper sweet nothings while I run my fingers through their hair!
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>>50555521
RAW no, a single casting of shield can literally stop an infinite number of magic missiles.
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>>50555513

Speaking of, how would we make Doomguy using HV rules?
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>>50555521

It's a Shield, anon. It's a disc of energy that does not give a shit how many lame-ass wizards you commit to a battle, it WILL stop their Magic Missiles.
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>>50555523
But think about the comfort levels of your partner, forcing them to take humanoid form just to make love to you is selfish and will hurt their self-image until they just decide to stay like that forever, and is that REALLY what you fell in love with in the first place?
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>>50555538
>>50555557
Seems like a bit of an oversight if you ask me, although I suppose Paizo never imagined that people would try to do something as monumentally stupid as assembling a team of hundreds of low level wizards in order to take out one guy.
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>>50555474

I wonder what the different alignments taste like?

I'd imagine Chaotic Evil would taste like a very greasy sinful burger.
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>>50555550

One side has to be a savage technologist barbarian; the other, some form of initiator? Somethign with access to solar wind and broken blade, I think.
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>>50555585
They all taste like salty milk and coins.
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>>50555560

Anon-kun, relationships are about compromise, and if she isn't willing to assume the form of a perfectly shaped humanoid (which most Metallics are 100% okay with, mind you!) Than I wouldn't be entering a relationship with them in the first place! Wearing a human skin is not uncomfortable for dragons, in fact some of them prefer it!
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>>50555602

>The copper dragoness takes on human form because while they don't serve any practical purpose for her, having perfect brown jugs feels AMAZING
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>>50555550
Primal Disciple/Savage Technologist gestalted with what-the-fuck-ever, maybe brawler. Has broken blade, fool's errand, and a ton of grapple bonuses. Also, Throat Slicer feat so that when he pins someone he can glory kill them. Something to let him initiate a grapple as a swift action would also be helpful
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>>50555602
>in fact some of them prefer it!
So wait... you're shaking up with the draconic equivalent of a furry then aren't you?
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>>50555602
But that's not the natural order of things! It's okay to admit if you're just not man enough to please your dragon in the form they were born with, but at least stop lying to everyone and yourself, and stop making excuses if you don't think you can handle it.
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>>50555602

*tips fedora*
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>>50555636
>you're shaking up with the draconic equivalent of a furry then aren't you?

Nope! Almost every Metallic can assume a humanoid form right out of the egg!
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>>50555636
Fleshy?
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>>50555636
More like the draconic version of an Animorph.
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>>50555636
Anon, there are people who wanted to husbando a LITERAL ANIMAL, I think a dragon in human form is within the realm of reason.
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>>50555585

Lawful Good: Honey Nut Cheerios

Neutral Good: Precious Cinnamon Bun

Chaotic Good: French Toast

Lawful Neutral: Bacon and Eggs

True Neutral: Pretzel Bread

Chaotic Neutral: Everything burrito

Lawful Evil: Chocolate Ice Cream

Neutral Evil: Porkchops

Chaotic Evil: Super greasy Bacon burger with Cheese
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>>50555661

To be fair, he's a true hero.
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>>50555638
>But that's not the natural order of things!

Dragons are above the natural order of things, that's why they're DRAGONS! And you're forgetting their ability to turn into humanoids is a NATURAL part of them, it's a racial ability that means their humanoid form is a NORMAL PART of their body!
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>>50555678
... Where does a properly cooked, rare, steak fall on the chart?
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>>50555591
>>50555632
>Doomguy as Savage Technologist

End this meme
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>>50555694

Son that's not an alignment. That's an essential part of the soul.
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>>50555630

>tfw no genki brown-girl tomboy copper dragon with bright golden eyes and an easy smile
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>>50555689
It's NOT a normal part of their body, it's a natural consequence of dragons being magical as all get-out, and able to use this in many varying ways. Just because I technically have the ABILITY to become a great artist doesn't mean that those around me should just expect me to pump out artwork after artwork.
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>>50555696

It's not a meme, anon, it's correct. Doomguy is a BERSERKER PACKING MAN AND A HALF who uses guns. That's, well, Savage Technologist in a nutshell.
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Behold, the newest, hottest way of dunking Autismfighter

What you will need. 5 Wizards, level 13, with at least 10 dexterity.

Each one of them uses quicken spell to cast True Strike on themselves, to give +20 to their next attack roll

Then they all cast a Maximized Enervation at Autismfighter.

He gains 20 negative levels and dies instantly.


They will hit on anything but a natural one, you could add an extra wizard to the team for insurance, but even if only one misses, the number of negative levels he's received will leave him crippled.
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>>50555304
>Stone Blast
>SR

Hah.
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>>50555717

Is magic not a natural aspect of the dragon? Why are you calling their status as elemental furnaces as a "consequence?" Weaving spells is as natural to them as breathing to us, so who are we to judge how they view turning into humanoids?

And let us remember how Silvers are well-known for assuming a humanoid form from a young age to seek out kindly lords or chivalrous knights to be tutored or squired in the ways of justice. Do you think they feel awkward in that form? When was the last time you've ever read of a dragon hating their humanoid form?
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>>50555474

I want to bet on her during an eating contest so i'm a shoe in to win big
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>>50555678
>Chocolate ice cream
>Evil

How dare you
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>>50555723
Except they use rage to be better with guns.

He is incapable of using gun while in Rage.
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>>50555678
>Chaotic Evil: Super greasy Bacon burger with Cheese

>mfw Chaotic Evil is a Culver's Butterburger

You monster.
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>>50555694
>rare
>cooked
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>>50555709
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>>50555754

It might TASTE good but it sure is bad for you.
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>>50555710

Please tell me you know where that artist's tumblr or whatever is, that image is gorgeous and I need more.
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>>50555749
There's a big difference between hating one's humanoid form and being forced into keeping said form for the sake of a lover. You should love those you care about for who they are on the inside AND out, and if that means the occasional bed wrestling with a gigantic element spewing lizard lady then that's your burden to carry! You spoke earlier about compromise, but I don't see any compromises coming from your direction, buddy!
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>>50555779
>>50555709

Further proof that vegetarians and vegans are an abomination.
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>>50555474

How does she like her men? or women?
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>>50555811
>Irori
>an abomination

If it's good enough for not!Buddha, isn't it good enough for you?
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>>50555457
>color
red
>favorite character in HV
didn't look at any of 'em, abstaining
>favorite character in RotJR
I guess I like the dynamic Shizuka and Onryou have, but I feel Grayson's the coolest concept
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>>50555827

I get the sense she couldn't care less what they'll wear or what they look like, it all depends on what they cook, like beef, pork, chicken.
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What skills make sense for a mercenary?

I have 12 skill ranks to play with.

Right now I have:
Handle Animal
Ride
Profession (Soldier)
Knowledge (Local)
Perception
Survival
Heal
Use Magic Device
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>>50555773
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
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>>50555723
Also, Berserker Packs aren't an intrinsic part of him. What IS is his ability to not suffer tremendous permanent brain damage from using them.
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>>50555860
>it all depends on what they cook, like beef, pork, chicken.

Commas do in fact save lives
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>>50555863

Intimidate and Knowledge (Nobility.)
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>>50555860

>That Mulan reference

I love you.
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>>50555879
I couldn't leave if I wanted to.
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>>50555884
Why Knowledge (Nobility)?
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>>50555510
So HV has 6 characters accepted!

Shizuka Saotome is a LE Zweihander Sentinel Bushi Warder || Bladebound Kensai Magus! A Tian woman, she was once a simple painter, but tempted by her sword 'Yama ni toge o bara' she murdered her husband and wandered her way to Cheliax! Now her desires for cruel death and bloodshed have been inflamed, and have only been stoked hotter at the chance to paint with blood once more!

Dierdre Brunhilde is a LE Warpath Follower Infiltrator Inquisitor || Scarred Unchained Monk! Years of experiencing the practices of Kuthite priests dulled her senses to the horrors of bloodshed! An incident with a group of Iomedaen knights consigned her parents to torture! To the torturer's disbelief, she simply watched, and asked to be trained in his ways! Now she needs to prove herself to the Midnight Lord!

Yori Rilsane is a LE Asmodean Advocate Sphere Cleric || Bandit Hidden Blade Rake Unchained Rogue! A tiefling born to a noble family, she was forced to perform in motley to disguise her fiendish heritage! Inspired by 'The Six Trials of Larazod' to serve the God-Fiend, she fled her home with the guidance of a serpent sent by Asmodeus! After training as a cleric she wants to return Cheliax to the service of hell!

cont.
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>>50555912
>>50555510
Marshall Rhames is a LE Zweihander Sentinel Warder || Vanguard Slayer! From a young age he knew he wanted to be a Hellknight, and always worked in the service of Law, no matter how brutal! Why, when he found that his own brother was involved with the Bellflower Network, he turned him in by himself! A proud servant of Cheliax and Asmodeus, he won't stand for these rebels!

Tyran Cormac is a CE Zweihander Sentinel Warder || Invulnerable Rager Barbarian! Called the Butcher of Barrowood, this half-giant has a long history of brutality! Vicious, cruel, and murderous, he was finally captured and put to trial! Rather than death, his sentence was an assignment to the Hellknight Order of the Nail, until a blast of Hellfire scorched his soul and forced him to retire! But what remains still years for violence!

Sersheon Barthum is a CE Stalker/Serial Killer Vigilante || Divine Hunter! A twisted birth, hated from the moment she came into the world, this young noble disguised herself behind a veneer of vapidity! A love for animals and a hate for humans drove her to the Mother of Monsters, and Lamashtu welcomed her with open arms! Noble by day, the monstrous Mad Jackal by night, she cares for nothing but sating her twisted needs!
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>>50555725
He's immune to negative levels.

We've already had this discussion.
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>>50555911
To know your place and not piss off the wrong people.
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>>50555937
how is he immune to negative levels?
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>>50555911
knowledge nobility doesn't only deal with 'nobles' despite its description.

Military rank and files vary per kingdom, as are the relevant political climate involved which might make a more pragmatic merc more cautious who he takes orders from.

Its like shadowrun - Before you take any sort of job, you run a background check on your Mr. Johnson to see if he's just treating you like an expendable pawn.
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>>50555911

So you know your "my lords" from your "sirs" and can tell who is a good client and who is better left out to dry.
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>>50555960
>Its like shadowrun - Before you take any sort of job, you run a background check on your Mr. Johnson to see if he's just treating you like an expendable pawn.

Sadly, nobody in our SR group does this.
>our face's face when he enlisted the runner group into another suicide mission.
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>>50555912
>>50555932

Good lord you could cut both wrists accidentally with that much edge.
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>>50555894

I was actually kind of worried no one would get it.
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>>50555863

Intimidate
Climb
Knowledge (nobility)
Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Knowledge (geography)
Swim
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>>50556004
But HV is Edge: the AP.
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>>50556004
Anon that's the POINT! We're not some goody two shoes do-gooders, we're EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
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>>50556004

The DM called for ham, and we answered!
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>>50555937
THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>50556004
>a bunch of edgy hamlords are the character in an evil AP

???
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>>50555932
Damn, shoulda joined in and made Cobra Commander/Skeletor when I had the chance.
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Anybody got the Horror Adventures PDF? I kinda liked some of the art for the corruptions in there.
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>>50555950
Constant Deathward his hammer gives him
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>>50556006

I got it, anon. I got it and thought it was lovely.
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>>50555217
Is it autistic to use PoW in a game full of new players who are only using 1st party classes?

I got invited to a game by my brother with his friends and they need a tank so I was thinking of playing a warder, but I don't want to make all the other martials (literally all of the others but 2) feel incompetent .
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>>50555883
>>50555860
>>50555894
>>50556006
>>50556133


Damn it i only realized after i left the computer to go grab food.

Ironically talking about a glutton makes you hungry
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>>50555937
>>50555950
>>50556061
>>50556130

Out of boredom, i did some reading

Here's the skinny

Autismfighter has a constant casting of death ward upon him

Death ward allows him to make saves against death effects, and will always have a save against them

He is immune to the energy drain monster special ability, as well as all negative energy effects

Importantly, this does not remove negative levels, but it DOES prevent the penalties from taking place

So funnily enough, as long as its not 'energy drain', its more than possible for autismfighter to gain negative levels.

Enervation is not an energy drain or death effect, so it still works on autism fighter

Now the question that remains is that if 'death' is considered one of the penalties from having too many negative levels.

Now the entry on negative levels says the following.

"For each negative level a creature has, it takes a cumulative –1 penalty on all ability checks, attack rolls, combat maneuver checks, Combat Maneuver Defense, saving throws, and skill checks. In addition, the creature reduces its current and total hit points by 5 for each negative level it possesses. The creature is also treated as one level lower for the purpose of level-dependent variables (such as spellcasting) for each negative level possessed. pellcasters do not lose any prepared spells or slots as a result of negative levels. If a creature's negative levels equal or exceed its total Hit Dice, it dies. "

This would likely be dependent on DM ruling unless anyone has a word of paizo post saying otherwise.
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>>50555932
>>50555912

Any proposed character interactions going on? How the heck is this party supposed to operate? You've got what sounds like two mass murderers, a beast fucker, a twisted version of Frollo, Cicero and Gregor Clegane.
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>>50555827

with a cask of mead, and salt.

>>50555860
Profession Cook is a MUST HAVE in order to woo the soft grappler.
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>>50556183
Not yet.

But Shizuka isn't really a mass murderer. She highly prefers kills in single combat with a worthy opponent, they're the most beautiful
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>>50556183
Hellknight, Gregor Clegane, Beast Fucker, Weeblord, Lawyer, Torturer. Marshall and Yori are both hardcore Chelaxians, Sersheon, Dierdre, Shizuka, and Tyran are all sadists, and Shizuka and Dierdre are likely masochists as well. They'll get along like a grease fire.
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>>50555474

Okay anon, You've had your fun, now its time to be serious.

How much does she weigh, and how tall is she?
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>>50556297

She's 19 years old, is 5'10 and weighs around 510 pounds. Depending on what and when she ate last of course.
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>Hey guys what's going in in he-
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>>50556183
>>50556252

Sersheon is not a dogfucker, she is a serial rapist. She would never dream of wasting seed in a beast that could not have her spawn or having seed wasted in her of a beast that could not plant the Mother of Monster's children in her or body. Every sperm is sacred, after all!
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>>50556335
Depends--if you have a paladin who has an entirely vanilla sex life, or is completely chaste, then you're right.

The solution should then be for paladins to have very active, kinky sex with their lover--see also: that doujin "Dramatic Couple".
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>>50556365
>paladin kidnapped by orcs
>orcs do their thing, G R E E N E D and all that
>allies come to rescue her
>orcs whimpering about how they can't get married
>paladin smoking, looking annoyed
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>>50556351
>wasting seed
>implying
psst, hey anon
http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Demon%20Mother%27s%20Mask
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>>50556417

Oh, I'm well aware. Too rich for our blood right now, but Soon, Soon/
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Guys I figured out how to defeat the Autism Fighter.

It's a one in 20 chance for a Pact Wizard at level 20 to roll to retroactivley undo the Fighter's birth using his 20th level ability.
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>>50556417
>If Lamashtu is the wearer’s patron, the mask counts as an unholy symbol and a hole for a third eye appears in its forehead. The wearer can use summon monster II once per day to summon a fiendish hyena, which obeys the wearer as if they shared a common language. The wearer may interbreed with animals within one size category of the wearer’s size. The offspring of such unions are members of the mother’s race with the fiendish simple template and bear monstrous aesthetic features of the father’s race.
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>>50556445
Cyclops Helm, anon. Cyclops Helm.
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>>50556342

I don't know what's scarier, that she exists or the fact that she can move faster than horse without even trying as a monk.
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>>50555217
>Implying a twinked out SoP blaster is something to worry about compared to other blasters.

I'd be more worried about what happens around level 7 when the gambler starts mass-producing concussive onslaught zones.
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Why are you guys so crazy over /pfg/ games instead of seeking out less high profile games elsewhere?

Is it because you guys want to have your waifu PCs wanked over in these threads?
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>>50555521
If you can put out ten million magic missiles, and you STILL can't just cast something that rapes them despite their shield instead, the problem is between your spellbook and your cape.
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>>50556335
>the biggest rape and NTR magnet this side of Xration doujins

Not just limited to japanese doujins. The Witcher, Game of Thrones, Forgotten Realms and even Dune use pure chaste virgins as a plot device to shoehorn in a rape.
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>>50556510
yes
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>>50556492

She has the momentum and mass of a true pain train.
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>>50555474
does she have a bloatmage friend?
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>>50556525
Only one of those actually has good writing, maybe two in certain parts.
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>>50556365
Basically, Kazuma's constant low-level abuse is the best chance Darkness has at a proper relationship that doesn't end with her tied up to a wall while birthing tentacle half-orcs.
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>>50556565
yo, you better not be shitting on muh Witcher nigga. I will fuck you up.
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>>50556559
only if you're interested in a Dual app or something. i doubt she'll ever actually be used for anything other than a thought experiment.
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>>50556365
>Dramatic Couple
Well that was an accurate title.
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>>50556525
Witcher, GoT and Forgotten Realms are shiity wish fulfilment and fetish pandering garbage.

>Witcher: "I'm a demon hunting badass with a harem of freaky bitches who wants my dick"

>GoT: "lol, let me write 3 whole paragraphs describing this dude's dick in graphic detail."

>"Forgotten Realms: "I was the original dual-wielding, black-ensemble, edgy emo fucktard before that Kirito shit went mainstream" or "I'm such a god wizard, I married a literal goddess of magic and banged her until I have 8 powerful demigod daughters and I fucked 3 of them."
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>>50556575
Hint: Game of Thrones isn't the good one.
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>>50556583

I am already seeing these two paired up in my mind and i'm not convinced that its not the most adorable idea.
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>>50556636
>leaving out Dune
>subtly implying Dune isn't shit
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>>50556636
Wasn't Gygax's character in the game Elminster himself?
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Which is the best Eldritch Heritage for a fighty-type, /pfg/?

Is it better to have a familiar for UMD exploitation, or a flight speed?
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>>50556691
He tried to say his self-insert was Mirt, but Mirt doesn't bang goddesses. That I know of.
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>>50556671
I haven't read Dune.
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>>50556710
it was Elminster who married Mystra and got 8 demigod daughters.
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>>50556715
It's very...of its time. Lots of DEEP POLITICS AND HUMAN NATURE stuff, but forgets to have characters most of the time.
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>>50556659

Fucking disgust- oh she's wearing high heels nevermind continue
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>>50556748
There's one that isn't wearing high heels?
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>>50556510
I want to waifu/be waifu'd by /pfg/ members!
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My 5th-level wizard just spent 5 days of downtime working as a civic spellcaster and a sage during the day, as a barmaid in a high-end inn by night, and scribing spells the rest of the time.

They earned 400 gp and a Ring of Protection +1 for the first job, and 99 gp for the second job.

Did they make a good living?
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>>50556731
>>50556710
>>50556691
Elminster was Salvadore's character, I believe?
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>>50556854
No, Elminster was Greenwood's dude, through and through. No doubting it.
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>>50556833
Don't we all anon?

I certainly do!
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>>50556854
Nah, R.A. did Drizz't. He was trying to push Wulfgar as the protagonist, but popular demand locked him into writing Mary Sue.
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..Fffffu c k. I still need to finish leveling Helen. She hit 9 some while back and all I've really done was plug in a couple stats here and there; still need spells and have little to no idea about what to do for a feat.

And she has a familiar that needs attention too. fug.
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>>50556833
No one would Waifu my character!

Anyone who would honestly waifu Sersheon probably needs help
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>>50556840
>as a barmaid in a high-end inn by night
Is that an appropriate profession for a wizard?
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>>50556898

What's her setup thus far? Maybe someone here has a suggestion or two.
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>>50555678
Hmm, can I get cheese with my True Neutral Pretzel Bread? Does the character need to be cheesed-out like a 3.5 Incantatrix in order to get that type of flavor?
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>>50556909

Need to pay those magic college student loans somehow, anon.
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>>50556659

That's not a bloat mage, that's a standard mage that realized that larger surface area means more magic tattoos for Spell tattoo.
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>>50556168
It's not considered a penalty to having too many negative levels, it's merely the end-result of it. Much like how "you're staggered/dying/dead" isn't a penalty from HP loss, outright-dying from negative levels or from taking too much CON damage/drain/burn is simply what happens and isn't "penalizing" you.
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>>50556915

nah man you just have to be a full caster. going that rout will make you Dangerously cheesy
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>>50556911
Helen is a Fey Trickster, but she's been earning a little bit of an authoritative position as of late. She took Leadership some time back and took in one of the named NPCs as her own cohort A Warforged Steel Hound Investigator. Her spells are mostly disruption and control as Fey Tricksters tend to do, but recently she's been allowed to venture off with a merry band of misfits as part of our mini-scout group to do smaller quests and missions for us while we're out and about doing mythic stuff.

I have little to no say over how Edge is built or how he'll develop beyond what gear he has since he's a pre-established character in the story. And holy fuck it's been ages since I last messed with Helen's familiar character sheet; waaaay back when she was Lv.5

In fact, last session Elsbeth ported back down to Xen'drik home base for a few days to check in on Helen's expedition personally because a few messages won't be enough to convince her that Helen didn't get into trouble if she didn't see it for herself.
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>>50556909
Why would it not be?
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>>50556833
Given that Shizuka murdered her last husband waifuing her seems to be a dangerous choice
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It's fitting that this is the OP image because I'm going to share my "Megumin Explosion Build" that coincidentally is fully capable of obliterating the Autism warrior in one round.

Step 1: Take the typical sorcerer blast friendly feats to buff up your fireball. (Draconic bloodline and blood havoc at least with magical lineage and spell perfection)
Step 2: Take eldritch heritage and get a familiar fro the arcane bloodline (or just take the arcane bloodline instead of draconic/orc. My way does more raw damage though)
Step 3: Take a raven or use improved familiar to get a familiar that can speak
Step 3: Learn Familar spell, a metamagic feat that is extremely broken with Step 4
Step 4: Learn Duplicate Familiar, cast it ~6 times (depending on level and charisma)
Step 5: Load up your duplicated familiars with metamagicked fireballs and quickened fireballs
Step 6: Explosion

Assuming 7 total familiars and Ignoring other optimization options such as the half orc's favored class bonus here's some numbers at level 20.
Regular fireball: 15d6+30
Maximized: 120
Maximized+Empower: (15d6+30)*0.5+120= 152.5 average

You cast Empowered, maximized, intensified fireball and quickened, empowered, maximized, intensified fireball or an average of 152.5 damage each. Spell levels 6/8.
Familiars cast familiar, empowered maximized intensified fireball (152.5, Spell level 8) and drop empower for quicken for a spell level of 9 (120 damage)

Total damage is 305+ 272.5*7= 2,212.5 which is about 1,000 more damage than you need to kill Autism fighter even assuming he makes every reflex save.

I'll leave figuring out a way to always win initiative to someone else.
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>>50557225
Forgot the obligatory image.
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TG, I'm lazy and stupid, and you're my only hope.
Using 1st party materials only, what do you think the best way to make a generally competent fighter is? Should I take archetypes? Should I stick with the base and use the weapon training things from the Weapon Masters Handbook? Help me, oh mighty people with some degree of knowledge of a broken system!
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>>50557225
Fireballs offer reflex-half.
That means Evasion-None.

You sure that'll work on autism fighter?
I haven't even checked autism fighter, but given evasion-none doesn't work on fucking anything anyways, I can't imagine it would work on autism fighter.
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>>50557225
Geysermancer sounds like it'd be easier and more effective.
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>>50557253
advanced weapon/armor training tricks from the weapon and armor handbooks respectively can help you become FAR more than you were before.

Consider also the lore warden perhaps.
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>>50557326
I might have missed it or maybe it wasn't listed, but I don't think he has evasion. Even if he did Scorching ray would still get the job done. It might even be better since it doesn't offer a save at all. It's less thematically fitting though.
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You know I have to wonder, what, if anything, even counts as 2nd party? Expansion books that aren't explicitly stated to be canon to the game rules but still commissioned by Paizo?
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>>50556937
Why not both?
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Speaking of explosions, can you even blast effectively in a core-only game? There is no Spell Specialization for early CLs, no Intensified metamagic to give Fireballs 15 dice, and no Crossblooded archetype so the most you get from going sorcerer or taking a dip is +1 damage per die.

I'm trying to figure out what I can do in this game that would be good and fun. Any gimmicks, anything that is 'broken' but ultimately suboptimal?
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>>50557369

That's entirely possible. just be careful, needles and bloatmages dont go along very well.
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>>50557326
Reflex is the lowest monster save, Anon.
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>>50557225
Can you do this twice?

Because you need to. Autism Fighter's sword can True Resurrect him once a month.
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>>50557392
In true Megumin fashion, you can do it once a day.

Probably more in all honesty if you divide your explosion, but that would be heresy.
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>>50557375
No. 3.5 blasting is fucking awful if you're not banking on rider effects or class features that buff it significantly - it comes with the territory of using spell damage scaling calibrated around AD&D in a game where HP is 2 or 3 times higher and attaching spell level costs to buff damage spells up to where they should be.
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>>50557392

Where the hell IS the rules for this Autism-Fighter?
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>>50557426
I had to go back a few threads for it.
http://pastebin.com/hMmLECRV
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>>50557424
What about if you do it Spheres style with Stone Blast and Holy Smite?
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>>50557225
The old version of the build (which I may return to after doing some more reconjiggering) could counter this in two ways.

First of all his sword would true resurrect him after the first time this was done to him.

The second was a desperate gambit where he uses contingency Create Undead to be raised as a Juju Zombie upon dead, who retain class levels in undeath. His HP drops like a stone (to like 400), but he now is immune to several elements.

Other ways he planned on possible solving this includes things I considered to heinous to use.
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>tfw when you kill Autism Fighter
>tfw blinding light
>tfw he raises from the dead FOR THE SECOND FUCKING TIME

THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>50557435
That's not core. Blasting can be done just fine outside of core.
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>>50557392

True Res takes 10 mins to cast. If you've got him in the dirt you can accord the time needed to boot the sword away from him in that 10 mins.
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>>50557522

Addendum: As a dedicated power, that only functions when directly serving the purpose of the weapon. Not whenever it's needed.
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>>50555217
>Do you allow the guy going full SoP dip autism and twinking out Stone Blast to also take Holy Smite and Blood Havoc/Orc Bloodline Arcana?
What combo is there to speak of here?
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>>50557432

Seems like the best way to beat this is just 'A stealth expert'. Lurker in Darkness + optimised stealth. It's not hard to push stealth higher than his perception and massively reduce the penalty to sniping.

It would take forever but it would eventually work. No one says you need to one round the guy.
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>>50557463
what
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>>50557621
He'd retreat with dimension door or plane shift if you can't track him, so you'd need to tag him with a dimensional anchor, don't forget.
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>>50557674
Not really. You can optimize a stealth-based Harbinger for his exact counter
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>>50557674

Point taken. So a Stalker Vigilante (They get a talent that bypasses blindsense so you don't need to go 3P) with a scroll of dimensional anchor and a bow.

You can't smash a spell effect you are flat footed against (As it works like the base talent which has that provision) so he can't actually deflect the anchor and there is no save.
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Isn't the autism fighter more of a testament for what you can do with level 20 WBL than what you can do with a fighter specifically?
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>>50557674
Phase-Locking weaponry helps there.
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>>50557723

More or less, yeah. Like, he needs items for teleportation most of his saves and his res.
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>>50557714
He's got uncanny dodge. Can't be flat footed.
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>>50557737

Good point. Then I go with the full sentence:

>You must be aware of the attack and not flat-footed.

So even if he isn't actually flat footed, if he's not aware of the spell (See: Hiding) he still can't stop it.
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>>50557760
>if he's not aware of the spell (See: Hiding) he still can't stop it.

Casting a spell breaks stealth. Its why Silent Spell Metamagic exists.
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>>50557732
Teleportation comes from a feat actually he just need A magic weapon, no particular one.
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>>50557777

Fortunately stealth breaks AFTER the attack roll. It's stated in the stealth skill. So for the attack itself he's unaware even if he's not unaware after the effect is complete.

>>50557790

Well, an item with a conjuration spell of 3rd level of higher. That's rather limiting as a whole.
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>>50557621
You can't kill him at range because of cut from the air and he can't be caught flat footed.
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>>50557361
2nd party would be your houserules.

The 1st party is Paizo.
You are the second party.
Anyone else is 3rd party.

So only your OWN stuff counts as 2nd party, if you're using anyone else's that's 3rd party.
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>>50557804
>Well, an item with a conjuration spell of 3rd level of higher. That's rather limiting as a whole
Now how he gets it. He can use any magic weapon in his weapon group.
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>>50557830
>Now how he gets it
Meant not
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>>50557814
>>50557361

No that's not how it works lmao

Paizo produced D&D product on behalf of Wizards of the Coast as a second party publisher during the 3e days of Dragon and Dungeon
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>>50557463
So, just give him a gem.

If they willingly accept it, Trap the Soul has no saving throw.
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>>50557852
He's immune to effects that target your soul.
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>>50557808

>You can't kill him at range because of cut from the air and he can't be caught flat footed.

Cut from the air only works if you are aware of the attack regardless of flat footed status.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/weapon-mastery-feats/cut-from-the-air-weapon-mastery
>You must be aware of the attack and not flat-footed.

The stealth skill clarifies that stealth is broken AFTER the attack roll.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/stealth
>Your Stealth immediately ends after you make an attack roll, whether or not the attack is successful (except when sniping as noted below).

Sniping would allow you to keep peppering him from attacks he's not aware of even if he's not flat footed to the attack.
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Can Haunting Mists affect the spell's caster?

I would think that being the caster would count as having proof that the illusion is false in terms of avoiding the saving throw, but the spell is considered to be both a Figment and a Shadow Illusion, and I know that certain Shadows, like Phantasmal Killer, explicitly can affect the caster., so I'm not sure about this.

It seems like it would be a pretty bad spell if it affects the caster, since its effect is initially centered on the caster.
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Spent far too much time on this one. Bunch of trouble for a crappy little edit.
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>>50557855
Can't he simply pull out a tower shield for full cover against ranged attacks?
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>>50557855

He's aware of the attack because he can't be surprised
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>>50557871

Well, along a single edge of his square. So he needs to correctly guess each round which direction arrows will come from and hope the attacker doesn't have the movement to actually change that.
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>>50557847
Well, the 1st/2nd/3rd is all reliant on the transaction being considered.

Like, if you buy from DSP, they are the first party and you are the second party. That's how that works for that transaction.

So for the agreement between Wizards and Paizo back in the day, Wizards would have been the first party and Paizo the second, since you wouldn't be involved in that transaction at all.

>>50557854
Trap the Soul doesn't, actually. It just says 'a creature', not 'a creature with a soul'. You could do it on a shitty animate dead 1HD skeleton if you wanted.

It also traps their corporeal body.
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>>50557894
Unless he has 4 tower shields.
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Lets bully those surface elves!
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>>50557899
>trap the soul doesn't target souls
Huhp
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>>50557867

Jaysus chroist!! I mean she doesn't even get swallow whole until level 9!
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>>50557871
He could, but it's possible to punch through that regardless if using a machinegun, beam rifle/cannon (full-auto mode only), Xaser(warning: damages vs regular AC due to bad RAW), railgun(Slow; use alternative action methods) or other line-attack weapons.

So long as you can overcome the Hardness (and DR if he was wielding it, but planting it down as cover does prevent that if I recall correctly) and deal at least one point of damage, the weapon continues cleanly through, ignoring miss chances entirely and having full effect on the person behind it.

This is best supported by 3pp however, especially the tech weapons who need a few tricks to even be viable in the first place.
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>>50557906
I'M FUCKIN INVINCIBLE.
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>>50557889

>At 2nd level, a barbarian gains the ability to react to danger before her senses would normally allow her to do so. She cannot be caught flat-footed, nor does she lose her Dex bonus to AC if the attacker is invisible. She still loses her Dexterity bonus to armor class if immobilized. A barbarian with this ability can still lose her Dexterity bonus to armor class if an opponent successfully uses the feint action against her.

Uncanny dodge doesn't actually make you aware of all attacks. It just prevents flat footed. This isn't about flat footed but the fact that slice from the air requires both awareness AND not being flat footed.

>>50557906

And 4 standard actions each turn.
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>>50557924
Yeah, it's more just 'shove this fucking dude in a crystal' than anything else.
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>>50557947
Nah, there's a few ways, including possibly kineticist snake-shots if the GM allows you to not be completely retarded and bring it down from overhead.
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>>50557917

I'd let him bully me if you know what I mean
with his penis if you know what I mean
doesn't look much like a drow at all though if you know what I mean
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>>50557955
>not getting the meme.
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>>50557949

oh, didn't know we were talking about uncanny dodge, thought he had something that autosurprise rounded him, there's so many abilities in the game to choose from that completely negate sneakiness
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>>50557992

Nah. This character (Unless you allow 3P in which case it's 1 feat) basically has to be a Stalker Vigilante in order to negate his blindsense. Else you do run into "Fuck sneaky'
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>>50557906
What if someone threw an Alchemist's Bomb over the shields into that square?

Not necessarily talking about Autism Fighter for this, but would there be some sort of advantage to putting explosives into that tight a space?
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>>50557992
There are, but very luckily for us, most of them simply remove the penalties and "status effects" composed of the surprise, like flanking, flat-footed, etc.

They don't actually make you aware of the attack, you just don't take sneak damage, and other such dumb shit.

In THIS particular case, the wording is that you have to be aware of the attack itself; that same shot still wouldn't get to ignore your dex or apply sneak damage because of uncanny dodge, but you can't smash-from-the-air it.
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>>50558026
Not true!

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/dampen-presence
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>>50558032

Unlike Shadowrun there isn't any Chunky Salsa rules sadly.

>>50558034

Yeah. Every turn he eats an arrow coated in drow poison.

He passes the save on anything but a 1 and gets a free reroll each day but...fuck it. It's still a chance with each shot to have the guy be down and out instantly so will save time that you'd otherwise have to deal with 'A very painful arrow each turn' chipping away at several hundred HP.

>>50558044

Oh, nice. Stalker Vigilante is still honestly the best option on that front due to being a generally good class but that's nice to know.
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>>50557941
What the fuck happens if you Hunting Zephyr a Maxim's autofire shot?
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>>50558111
Well, RAI from DSP (I believe they'd flat out admitted "oh shit we forgot that was even a thing why would you do this") is that the strike should only affect a single primary target.

However, Zephyr removes the attack roll entirely, so in this case the most appropriate function would be to just autohit everything in the line (it's a machinegun, it's against touch-AC, so really the only change is removing the chance of a natural 1 making you miss that attack, as only ALL misses and nat 1's would cause a misfire) but that *ONLY* the primary target would get a threat (thus also removing the ability to crit everyone downrange if you start getting a hotstreak on all those rolls) due to no rolling.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but I'm not a regular lurker. Can someone please tell me what is "Autism Fighter"?
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>>50557963
He totally is! Get a load of those peepers!
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>>50558192
Basically one guy built a level 20 fighter to be as fucking impossible to put down as he possibly could.

It's less a testament to fighters at all, and more just 'here's the stupid shit you can do with magic items'
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You'll find no answer here, hot elf.
>>50557432

... crap.
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>>50558207
Thanks. So his "immortality" comes from magic items and class can be whatever?
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>>50558224
Not entirely, but mostly.
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>>50558224
>class can be whatever
Eh, I think you need Fighter for the massive amount of bonus feats, which lets you VMC for Barbarian features, and second best HD in the game.
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>>50558224
Like 35-40% class features & 60-65% magic items.
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>>50558224
... Those eyes are so fucking tiny it's like I'm looking at one of those pictures where the face has been shooped to be super small
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>>50558224
Needs fighter for the feats actually. Otherwise the feat budget doesn't work. Also for Cut/Smash from the air.
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>>50558236
>>50558243
>>50558247
>>50558263
Thanks. I'm going to dig some archives for an actual build then.
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>>50558243
>>50558247
>>50558263

Is the rage actually significant or is VMC barb for uncanny dodge?
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>>50557867

God damn it Anon, SHE CHEWS HER FOOD!
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>>50558299
No it's for superstition & uncanny. Rage is a bonus.
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>>50558299
Both.
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>>50557867
Go away.
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Anyone have some pictures of scaled females I can use for a Vishkanya?
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>>50558392
IIRC their scales are described as being very fine and diminutive in size, such as that they look like smooth skin even from short distances
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>>50558392
I have a number of scaled ladies.

How many would you like?

>>50558415
Shush
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>>50558430
>Shush
I'm helping him, it'll be much easier to find a decent picture if skin tone is the only thing holding him back
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>>50558440
But they're snakepeople, anon.

Snakepeople.
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>>50558430
Whatever you've got, I guess. I'd prefer "scaled female" over "snakegirl" since that seems to be what Vishkanya are, what with having hair and stuff

>>50558415
>>50558440
Fair enough, but I'd still like to see what there is
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>>50558467
Yeah, not gonna lie, I don't have any 'scaled but otherwise human female'.

I got some more snek though.
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>>50558458
they're not that kind of snake people.
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>>50558467
>>50558458

they're humans with square pores
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>>50558493
Shush. Have a manly snek.

I wish I had more legged snakepeople, if I'm honest.
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>>50558501
there are dark places one must walk to find such a thing
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>>50558500
>Vishkanya
>Not in any way inhuman
>At all
>Not a single fucking bit
>Except white eyes because that's a thing snakes have
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This is the snazziest snek.
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>>50555795
>http://mikawart.com/desert-people

There isn't much more.
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>>50558500
>>50558510
They're described as having scales so tiny that they look like skin anywhere but up close. Bestiary entry says they have milky white eyes, race guide says "serpentine eyes of burnished gold" like pic related.

>>50558467
>>50558392
Basically, do whatever the fuck you want.
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>>50558580
>>50558500

but make sure you wear lots of clothing that is nevertheless functionally useless
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>>50558580
I just like snakes.

And I'd like a snake race that isn't stupid assholes like Nagaji.

And why the fuck do Nagaji get a racial feat to spit poison when they don't even HAVE poison normally, while Vishkanya, who DO normally, don't?
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>>50558618
>And why the fuck do Nagaji get a racial feat to spit poison when they don't even HAVE poison normally, while Vishkanya, who DO normally, don't?

This character will be a Vishkanya Toxicant and while going over the rules I had to immediately wonder why you can't just flick the toxicant poison at someone. You even have Throw Anything.
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>>50558657
>be Vishkanya
>spit into a tube a few times per day
>sell poison
>infinite money

it's even pretty decent as far as poison goes
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How does /pfg/ feel about consumables?

I mean about 15% of your WBL is supposed to be consumable items - scrolls, potions, weapon oils, magic arrows, poisons etc.

I've had some arguments with people who seem to think that you shouldn't get any money back for consumables (ie, you shouldn't eventually get topped back up to your WBL) and that consumables should for some reason be permanently deducted from your overall wealth... rather than consumables being a sort of regenerating pool.

I mean, lets say you have 10000 gold as your 'wealth', 1500 of that should be in consumables; like a a few scrolls, a potion and maybe a wand. Once you drink a potion it's gone - over time lets say it's 500 gold... if you don't get topped back up by 500 (eventually) you end up at 9500 gold of wealth, putting you below your WBL.
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>>50558685
Set up a Vishyanka venom milking operation.

Cushy.
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>>50558708

WBL is a piece of shit tbqh
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>>50558713
i volunteer to milk a snake girl
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>>50558685
Yeah, the DC's pretty alright. It easily outscales most other poisons.

And it's a valid choice for Ability Focus.

You can even make it into sleep poison if you want.

>>50558708
Considering that 'wealth' is basically a second XP track in a lot of cases, I don't feel like consumables should permanently impact that.

I mean the best solution is to scrap the 'necessary' items via an autoprogression system of some kind so that a PC's money is actually an expression of their wealth rather than a goddamn expectation of the fucking system.

But.

Yeah. No permaloss of WBL for daring to use consumables.
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>>50558708
I very rarely use consumables. At most, I'll carry a CLW+lesser restoration wands on a divine caster, but that's it.
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>>50558708
I allow players to put money into a 'party pool' that's considered stuff like investments, stocks, bonds, other growth, and that this 'pool' refreshes during down time, allowing players to buy consumables with it.
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>>50558708
consumeables should represent a temporary loss of money, not a permenant one, otherwise daring to use a consumable puts a mar on a players WBL for the rest of their life, its dumb.
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>>50558743
I mean it kind of depends on your class, but a weapon oil, the occasional slaying arrow, a potion of haste, a potion of invisibility etc are all pretty fucking useful.

Even some simple alchemical items like acids are pretty useful.
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>>50558708
That's not even how WBL is supposed to work, though? It's expected that consumables get "refunded" after you use them, and if you're ignoring WBL, it probably means you have enough disposable income that consumables aren't a big deal, no matter how many you use.
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>>50555879
Hank, it's medium rare.
nobody gets their steak rare unless they want basically raw meat, it doesn't fall under "properly cooked" at all.
That's what the other anon was confused about.
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>>50558753
Some people have a funny understanding and seem to think that consumables should be permanent deductions.

There are some guidelines to WBL though, like no more than a certain percentage should be tied up into one item, a certain percentage should be in consumables etc.
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>>50558753

WBL isn't supposed to work like that at all: It's a suggestion to DMs for how much wealth players of a certain level might have, not a hard and fast rule that if not followed to the silver piece causes the game to collapse more than it already does.

None of the APs give a single fuck about WBL in their treasure loads.
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>>50558765
honestly as long as a player's total wealth is around the WBL its about right, i don't give a shit what they spend it on
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>>50558779
Well the guidelines are shit like "no more than 50% should be tied up into a single weapon" etc. Cause I mean otherwise you can have shit like a character dumping 90% of their money on a +4 sword as soon as they can afford it.
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>>50558790
Let them then sunder it
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>>50558777
Plus it all goes out the window if a) any PC takes crafting feats, b) any PC has a cohort with crafting feats, or c) the PCs end up running a kingdom.

I should know--I did both B and C, and wound up with a shitton of magic items that bumped me up by at least 2-3 expected wealth levels.
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Y'know, it's kinda funny.

Kitsune have shorter lifespans than humans.
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>my character will easily have an absurd number of AOOs
>like we're talking upwards of 20 AOOs at upper levels

How can I best utilize this.
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>>50558936
>Be Yokai
>Maximum life span, 1,000 years.
Plenty of time to become immortal.
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>>50559039
Sure, if you can deal with being a degenerate weeb that long.

Oh, and then if you do become immortal, you'll have to put up with that for eternity.

I guess that's why they say you should be careful what you wish for.
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>>50559049
But anon, we're all weebs here.

And I'd be totally okay with being a weeb if I could be a WIIIIIZZAARRRDDDD.
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>>50558732
Sorry anon. They're self-milking.
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>>50559032
lots of reach
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>>50559085
I'm easily going to have at least 10ft, 15-20 if i want it.

i need mas.
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>>50559100
Cut/Smash?

You could get Combat Stamina maybe. Combat Reflexes' trick is to let you spend 5 stamina and another AoO to retry a missed one at -5
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>>50559148
Can't take cut/smash, not enough strength.
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>>50559152
DEXFAGS BTFO

QUALITYLIFE BEST LIFE
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>>50559158
oh no i'll just have to dodge all those arrows and reflex save spells

if only i had a stat that gave a bonus to such a thing

Alas.
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So I'm expanding upon Onryou's Training, Her master and her fellow students. (Hurray for adding NPCs)

Sagacious Aadhandan had been charged with a prophecy. He was to travel the land and be the master for a young lass of noble birth with a bellicose disposition and a voracious appetite. He would train her in a manner that best fit her soul and she will grow to be a warrior that changes nations.

The problem with prophecies is that they can be terribly unspecific. Aadhandan had discovered three such young women that fit the prophecy to a T.

Quanfindiel "The Cat",
Millie Gourda, And most recently,
Onryou Kaijitsu.

None of them had the right temperament for the Soul Bandit style that He employed but each could be taught easily once their souls were laid bare to him.

Onryou heart was in the fight, Challenging foes with strange combat styles from dojo to dojo allowed her to analyze and re-purpose what she found effective.

Millie was perhaps the easiest to teach. With rewards in sight, she would perform far better and was more responsive to techniques taught.

Quanfindiel "The Cat" was a soul of revelry. Unless the training could be classified as fun, she was a slacker. When her training was converted into games, she learned quickly.

The group of four travel all around Taldor, Varsia, Galt, visiting every monastery they could find (And plundering them for fighting techniques in Onryou's case) for six years until Sagacious Aadhandan declared he could no longer teach them and they must learn on their own.
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In Gunslingers of Porphyra, the elemental gun archetype; if multiclassed can it accept burn for those abilities? Do levels of infusion specialization add together, or does the reduction stack? Would the form infusions gained from multiclassing be allowed, since the elemental gun itself doesn't gain any but also does not say it can't use form infusions in any way?

Do the simple energy blasts that lower damage by a die type also do the same to the gun they're loaded in (I imagine yes)? And can this energy be used to fire technological energy weapons, or only bullet-type firearms? This last part is only a question due to 'charges' being different from 'ammo' technically.
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>>50559354
Oh, also, since technological firearms ARE firearms but have no misfire, do they gain one if one applies the firearm modifications in the book?
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>>50559168
You mean wearing fucking armor and using a shield?
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>>50559520
>wearing armor and using a shield
>LAUGHING DEX CHARACTERS.JPG
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Continuing from previous thread. I see a Drow martial artist basically being a turkish oiled wrestler... except instead of oil - poison. Lots and lots of contact poison.
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>>50559536
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>>50559551
I know that Drow can't poison themselves accidentally but I don't think they're immune to it.
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>>50559384
I'll do you one worse!
How does it interface with timeworn equipment?
And yes fuck you paizo for that one!
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>>50559607
It would be a feature of an archetype for them. They'd be able to apply contact poison while grappling, in addition to being immune to it.
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>>50559536
>not using mithril armor
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What is the best armor type for a Warder?
Is light preferable to take better advantage of combat patrol in terms of movement?
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>>50559662
Full plate.
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>>50559666
But muh 30' movement....
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>>50559692
Irrelevant, you'll find so many ways to boost that movement back or replace it outright that it does not matter.
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>>50559718
Okay...
>muh benevolent guardianship...
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New thread

>>50559785
>>50559785
>>50559785
>>50559785
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>>50559787
Kind of early, we're only on page 6. Wait till like page 8 or 9 next time.
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>>50559841
But then he couldn't shitpost using anime images.
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So how do I create autism warrior?
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>>50559862
You're already halfway there, autism squire
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>>50559859
I mean, I dont really have anything against anime images, but kitsune-poster has had something like 3 or 4 threads deleted cause of this shit.

This is how generals get banned.
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