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Pathfinder General /pfg/

How do you deal with 2hu builds and 2hu builders in your games?

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Vampire Hunter D Setting Supplement: https://www.dropbox.com/s/onnk3oskhbc5aos/Vampire%20Hunter%20D%20Pathfinder%20Supplement.pdf?dl=0

Old Thread: >>50546666
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>>50552071
You're a faggot.
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>>50552071
Have monsters just act smart rather than like NPC mobs. Sure, the motherfucker's gonna get butthurt for a while, but then the rest of the PCs just move on and have fun while he sulks, so eventually he learns to shut the fuck up and improvise.
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>>50552071
While overly autistic questioning is a bit annoying, there are far far worse player aspects one deals with on average. You just answer the questions and put your foot down when you need to.

No one's here because they're a 100% well adjusted person happy with their lives. I get way more annoyed at those who come here looking to *embellish* their fucked up personas though.
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>>50552113
>when i'm a 100% well adjusted person happy with my life

Kek
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Which HV character do you want to slay the most, /pfg/!

Which do you want to lay the most!
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>>50552139
kys faggot
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Pushing for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7d0Lm_31BE to become the theme of Sandpoint--anybody agree?
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>>50552071
If everyone in the party is weak, you have no problem. If everyone in the party is broken as fuck, you have no problem either, just rise the CR to infinity.
There is only a problem when there is a party full of jobbers and one uber broken motherfucker is when the game goes to shit.
Particularly if its one of those fuckers that wants to "hold back" because that just means he is just waiting the right chance to break your little world hopping you underestimate his power.
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We need art of Autism Fighter, fully decked out in all his magic gear

Also, is he immune to any form of time manipulation? If not, then we might have some options to work with
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>>50552134
Even if you think you are... Not if you're in here you ain't. Anyone with a stable happy mind has better things to do than hang out on a containment thread in 4chan of all things.
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>>50552141
My Wizard | Investigator wasn't useless in a fight at level 2, and the fight didn't even include Color Spray!
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>>50552232
>Anyone with a stable happy mind has better things to do than hang out on a containment thread in 4chan of all things.

Really? Because a lot of us have a delicious habit of partitioning parts of our pretty little brains to lewd, degenerate matters like one would find here, and things that are obviously less degenerate like watching half-naked girls shake their asses on public television.
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>>50552232
>containment thread on a containment board on a containment site
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>>50552141
Friday game was most of the party babbling on about other games, usually overwatch or some shit, on discord, and paying so little attention to anything other than their conversation that they don't even remember basic rules like attacks/round or "that's an aura".

Saturday afternoon was cancelled. Sunday was cancelled. Next week is "totally on I swear guys" (ded game). The weather's utter shit and I have to walk about 2km to the nearest bus stop to/from work because construction has made the transport association kill off everything between two overpasses "just to be safe".

FUCK your weekend.
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>looking for games in roll20
>suddenly 24 point build
> lets check it
>"antropomorphic cats rule not!egypt"
> "expect sexual themes"
>"people keep quitting after one session"
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>>50552212
Just use morgan ironwolf or something.

DHB needs to stop making fucking memes
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>>50552358

Link? We need more examples of these types.
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>>50552113
>You just answer the questions and put your foot down when you need to.
Isn't what 2hu wanted the GM putting down the foot and giving a concrete hard limit and not going "Yeeeeeah, well, just don't break the game too hard, kay?"
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>>50552358
>24pb sexual anthro cats

first
>24pb

secondly
>pic related
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>>50552141
My fighter got buffed up the vazoo when we fought a bunch of Lamashtans. Him being who he is ended up looking like an extremely angry, bipedal stone dragon with a skull for a face spinning and taking 5-foot steps and chopping cultists and demons down as they were trying to hitch up their pants since we interrupted their orgy.

It was nice.
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>>50552377
The issue is that there's no easy metric of optimization. You cant say 'optimization rank 4' because no fucking thing exists.

Also 2hu kept pushing when the DM initially said no.
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>>50552369
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/61759/for-glory-and-freedom
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>>50552141
We tried to kill a man who cant die and accidentally made him even more immortal.
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>>50552406
Eh, the one 2hu was arguing was blast types.

The GM didn't like the fluff of that, but 2hu came up with fluff the GM liked and said it was okay.

What's the problem there?
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MIght make a Sumo Wrestler girl for RotJR because i'm bored as fuck.
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>>50552415
>Themes:
>1: it is heavily inspired by Arabic culture and society.
>2: Slavery is heavily ingrained in the culture and society. thou this is frowned upon in almost every other kingdom in the world.
>3: it is a tropical and hot area. with large savannas, burning desserts, tropical rain forest and floodplains.
>4: it is possible if not uncommon for transformations to occurs within this world.
>5: expect sexual and violent themes.

DARE YOU ENTER MY MAGICAL REALM?
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>>50552406
>DM initially said no
How dare he?
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>>50552403

Why is the wolf stuck in a pumpkin?
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>>50552358
>>50552415
>>50552435
Holy fuck, it's a slavery version of Tel'Adre
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>>50552406
Yeah everyone got on his case because how dare someone ask for an example of what they consider "game breaking" in a game where people come in with wildly different expectations!
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>>50552428

Do it! We need chubby tough girls grabbing people and throwing them around while covered in sweat!
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>>50552486
>>50552517
Did everyone remember that the GM's problem was the FLUFF of the blast and they eventually came to an agreement on fluff that made sense?
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>>50552516
Isn't that normal Tel'ardere
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>>50552553
>>50552517
No this was for the RotJR thing.
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>>50552516
I'm gonna regret looking that up aint I?
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>>50552573
City in corruption of champions
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>>50552573
I just looked it up and yep.
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>>50552511
What wolf? There's only a pumpkin.
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>>50552573

There is literally nothing wrong with a little hardcore smut, anon.
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>>50552598

The pumpkin has ears! Wolf ears! And a cute blue-eyed face with a lil tail and some footsies!

It's a wolf I tell you! A WOLF!
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>>50552571
What did 2hu do so bad there?

Was he a dick?
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>>50552141
I got rejected for a /pfg/ game and used my powers of manipulation to turn the thread into shitflinging and masturbation over player characters getting brutally murdered.
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>>50552613
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>>50552640

Which character was yours, senpai?
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>>50552097
Doesn't this mean the 2hu build will be competitive while everyone else dies like whelps?
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>>50552637
DM said "don't break the game", 2hu asked for clarification, everyone jumped on his throat.

Then 2hu started getting a little pissy and passive aggressive, and eventually quit,
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Rate my OC

> Have a hardcore family of knights
> Fight-and-die-for-king-and-country types
> skip a few generations
> they turn into a family of fops
> obsess about fashion and social trends
> PC is youngest male in family
> sent to Uni for being too hardcore
> when he hears of the PC's exploits he steals his groups thesis project (incomplete firearm) and runs to join them
> Steel Hound Investigator
> pretends to be a fop in public
> swans around with sword cane

Pic 50% unrelated
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>>50552629
It's a pumpkin. I'm a leshy warden. I know a goddamned pumpkin when I see one.
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>>50552570
Nah, there were no slaves there, just futas and Gains
Slaves was more of the Bazaar's and Sandwitch thing
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>>50552691
Problem is 2hu has no idea how NOT to be a dick.
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>>50552709

I love it! Love it!
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>>50552709
Make it a girl instead and I am sold.
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>>50552709
>Rating: It's a Trap
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>>50552674
It's the one who causes chaos and insanity to those around them by being an annoying little shit, anon.
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>>50552709
Is he as cute as the pic?
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>>50552726
Now, that's not quite fair. All he needs are firm rules instead of wishy washy bullshit.
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>>50552726
Well, he is a legitimate autist. That doesn't excuse the behavior, but his point still stood.
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>>50552719

That's not a pumpkin, you fool! It's a wolf!
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>>50552532
>>50552428

She'll never get submitted, but i'll make her none the less.
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Quick question:

Can a Mesmerist affect an invisible creature with their stare if they know roughly where it is?
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>>50552141
>android cryptic's psicrystal gets into castle slice of life shenanigans while the cryptic stuffs his nose in a book
>go out to clear a spider den
>the party rogue with 10 con is legitimately surprised when he dies of con damage from poison
>aside from that everything goes swimmingly as we catch a traitor in the castle
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>>50552785
Except you can't GIVE them hard rules because you cant MAKE hard rules for optimization
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>>50552691
How does 2hu get pissy and passive aggressive?
For asking for clarification? What's so bad about that?
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>>50552835
You could try NOT allowing fucking everything from Spheres.
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>>50552823
It could be both.
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>>50552640

rusemeister
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>>50552865
Except he didn't, pretty much everything 2hu asked about worked in Spheres by RAW or was confirmed to work by the Devs anyway.
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>>50552865
That's limiting content, not optimization.
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>>50552828
No clue. I guess it uses the same rolls for a gaze attack, so at that point do normal gaze attacks work on invisible creature? I'm inclined to say yes because all I know about gaze attacks areally that "thing happens unless they save".
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>>50552890
>SCARLET EINHANDER WORKS FOR DESTRUCTIVE BLASTS RIGHT NO MATTER THE SHAPE RIGHT

fuck off.
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>>50552874

A... A wolfkin? A pumpolf? Anon, you're just sounding silly! That poor wolf-girl's trapped in a pumpkin!
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>>50552916
Except it does.

>The initiator gains a +2 shield bonus to his Armor Class and inflicts an additional 1d6 points of damage while in this stance.
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>>50552684
Hopefully not, but that's the risk you run.
It's not like I'm trying to get them all killed, just make an encounter something they can't steamroll--I can BS some kind of "and then they took you captive" shit if things really go tits-up for them, and hey, that's an adventure hook right there.
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>>50552916
Where the fuck did he ask that in the RotJR thread. All I remember was him asking about some Bloodline shit and some caster level shit.
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>>50552823
You got it all wrong, so I had to correct you in paint.
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>>50552916
>>50552931
I mean it does as long as there's an attack roll.
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I think Depressed Homebrewer, on a whole, is the most wholesome autist we have. Autism Fighter proves that.
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>>50552961
No, offensive spells are attacks. Right there in the CRB's magic chapter.
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>>50552988
Yeah just like intimidate is!
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>>50552988
Fuck didn't one of the Path of War devs confirm that stances/boosts only modify shit that involves an attack roll?
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>>50552953

Gosh heckin' dang it anon! You just said ears and legs and all the little gibbins that make someone are plant parts! My ears are not leaves! I do not photosynthesize!
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>>50553004
[citation needed]
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So how come /pfg/ likes theorycrafting over and over and over and over again for builds TO USE IN GAMES, but when 2hu comes and asks "Hey, is this too strong for your game, mind giving me a clear answer on that?" with some Spheres or PoW build, everyone goes into an autistic frenzy?
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>>50553009

Are you sure? You might be really good at it, if you gave it a try.
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>>50552931
I disagree, the RAW may say that but the RAI is clearly that applied to melee attacks.

>>50552961
He wants it to apply to explosive orbs and other blast shapes.
Shit like this is why I can't stand 2hu, its acting in bad faith and trying to fuck over GMs who aren't smart enough to call bullshit when they see it.
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>>50552090
Just remember: this is a large portion of the Pathfinder community. Just play with your friends until you grow out of 3.pf and leave the "pathfinder community" for the 2hu/weeb autists. They deserve what they've done to the community.
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>>50553010
It's been a year my nigga. I ain't digging that far back, believe it or not.
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>>50553023
there's a different between theorycrafting a build (WHICH MAY NOT EVER BE USED IN A GAME) for lulz, and actually trying to break a fucking game and its not like 'IS THIS TOO STRONG' its 'I AM BENDING THE RULES TO THE POINT OF BREAKING, IS THIS ALLOWED AHAHAH IF YOU SAY NO I WILL PUSH IT AND PUSH IT AND PUSH IT BECAUSE I WAAAANT IT SO I CAN HAVE MUH DANMAKOU 2HU CHARACTER'

fuck off
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>>50552953
Ok I chuckled
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>>50553009
Plants are somebodies too, you racist.
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>>50553052
>its not like 'IS THIS TOO STRONG' its 'I AM BENDING THE RULES TO THE POINT OF BREAKING, IS THIS ALLOWED AHAHAH IF YOU SAY NO I WILL PUSH IT AND PUSH IT AND PUSH IT BECAUSE I WAAAANT IT SO I CAN HAVE MUH DANMAKOU 2HU CHARACTER'

>3. As a reality check, I am currently looking at a blaster whose destructive blasts have a caster level of 5th (3 class levels + 1 Destruction sphere specialization + 1 "staff" that need not actually be a staff) and deal 6d6+13 damage thanks to Greater Blast, blood havoc, the orc bloodline arcana, and the Destruction sphere specialization. That is an average of 34 damage, when a CR 3 monster has 29.9 hit points on average. Blast shapes can then be applied. All of this is from one side of the gestalt, leaving the other gestalt half free for utility.
>Would you consider this to fall within acceptable boundaries under the context that this is a Path of War game that bans Broken Blade but still allows Primal Fury, Scarlet Throne, Elemental Flux, Riven Hourglass, and other high-offense disciplines, or would you consider it out-of-line? If it is out-of-line, then what would a more acceptable damage for destructive blasts at 3rd-level gestalt be?

It's not nice to put words in people's mouths, Anon.

Be excellent to each other.
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>>50553028
2hu never contested that when the GM said no. Far as I can tell, he likes it when GMs say no, except when they say no on some wishy washy fluff basis. It's that simple.
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>>50553097
I'm really fucking tired of 2hus two dicksucking friends coming in this thread to defend him every fucking time someone says some shit

Fuck off, we don't like your friend, and we don't like you.
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>>50553028
I mean at the end of the day it's just AoE damage with a little rider at worst. Hardly the worst thing you could do desu.

And I'm pretty sure that flat out, does not work with black shapes that don't involve an attack roll. Just like Sneak attack can work with rays, but not fireballs unless you take Arcane Trickster.

That being said I'm surprised there isn't a prestige class based around blending rays and initiation yet.
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>>50552916
>>50553052
Did 2hu even try requesting to use scarlet einhander in that manner in RoTJR? Post links if you have em.

I recall he once posited that as intimidating people was an attack you could kill people by calling them harsh names, but I don't think he ever tried making a character round it or applying for a game using things like that.
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>>50553130
he just needs to fuck off and die imo
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>>50553097
>Destruction sphere specialization + 1 "staff" that need not actually be a staff)
Where the fuck does this bit actually come from?
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>>50553129
>>50553130
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic

Attacks

Some spell descriptions refer to attacking. All offensive combat actions, even those that don't damage opponents, are considered attacks. Attempts to channel energy count as attacks if it would harm any creatures in the area. All spells that opponents resist with saving throws, that deal damage, or that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks. Spells that summon monsters or other allies are not attacks because the spells themselves don't harm anyone.

ALL OFFENSIVE COMBAT ACTIONS.

Fireball is an attack.
Channel Energy is an attack.
Demoralize is an attack.

Got it?
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>>50553153
And Scarlet Einhander isn't intended to apply to any of them

RAW for it are shitty written, RAI are obvious.
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>>50553125
So why is it that 10-15 people respond to witch hunter posts with "go away witch hunter" if there's only two people supporting 2hu?
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>>50553169
because witch hunting is annoying. and we dont care one way or another.
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>>50553150
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>>50552141
We all died to a level 10 Alchemist and her cronies in Skull and Shackles.
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>>50553169
ideally we can live in a world without 2hu defending faggots and without witch-hunter.

Because you're all annoying cunts that keep ruining threads with your fucking annoying slap-fight shit.
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>>50553169
Because witchhunting is also fucking cancerous.

You dont have to like someone to hate someone who hates them.
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>>50553195
I'm 80% sure that's for GM's anon.
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>>50553169
Because we're sick of people using the thread for that shit. We don't care, and if you want to lambast someone, do it on your own time in private. We don't fucking care and it eats post count.
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>>50553025

I tried, anon! I tried really really hard! I tried so hard I got blonde body hair and tanned skin! I was a total hunk, but I was not nourishing myself!

>>50553074

PLANTS.

DO NOT.

HAVE SOULS.
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>>50553207
All of Spheres is for GMs and yet GMs let players go hog wild on that shit.
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>>50553218
Then why do you post a broccoli who clearly showcases emotions which are a byproduct of having a soul?
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>>50553218
ALL THINGS, ALL PLACES HAVE SOULS

ALL SOULS CAN BE EATEN
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>>50553212
Because there was so such a high level of discourse about which character from a campaign you would like to sleep with.
>>50553220
Well Spheres is all about collaborating with your GM, but the important bits generally beat you over the head with "ASK YOUR GM TO USE THIS SHIT. GM'S THINK BEFORE YOU ALLOW THIS SHIT. IT FUNDAMENTALLY CAN ALTER THE NATURE OF GAMEPLAY".
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>>50553237
this is lewd.
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>>50553237

DELETE THIS.

TATSUMAKI IS FOR PURE.

FUBUKI IS THE LOOSE SLUT.
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>>50553167
We're basically stuck with the RAW until we get the PoW1 errata, aren't we?
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>>50553245
Its literally better to have waifu and fetishposting than even more cancerous fighting over 2hu.
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>>50553218
Why do you hate ghoran so much anon?
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>>50553245
And wasn't 2hu doing just that, asking if it was fine and working out fluff/power level with the GM?
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>>50553245

Which is INFINITELY more preferable than what you've been bringing to the table.
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>>50553264
Why don't we work together for a world without both?

It'll be hard. But I know we can do it!
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>>50553266

I don't, anon! I think Ghorans are delicious! I just wanna eat 'em up!
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>>50553271
2hu never fucking shuts up. Thats the real problem

Each question you answer generates 3 mores, its a fucking barrage

I don't know how to deal with 2hu. They are just a barrage akin to a gish gallop where the amount of shit you have been subjected too just to try and GM a game is unreal.
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>>50553299
Give him what he wants: clear answers and "No, you can't take that" and not wishy washy bullshit.
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>>50553299

This.

2hu's questions aren't the issue, it's his relentlessness.

2hu, god bless him, is *tiring.* He's a pain to talk to and generates far more stress than satisfaction.
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>>50553296
>Not playing a Ghoran with a bite attack for OH MY GOD I'M DELICIOUS!
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>>50553284

Not with THAT attitude, anon.
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>>50553266
I personally prefer for Ghorans to look a bit more... pretty.
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>>50553309

>Ghoran with points in profession (cook)

Now that's living dangerously!
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>>50553317
Sure I guess, ignore the change to play a real plant person and just be a human with some funny looking tatoos.
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>>50553308
Give clear answers, don't be wishy washy.

It's like you don't have any authority as a GM.
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>>50553307
Dude even clear answers of 'no' generate multiple follow up questions about WHY and WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS OBSCURE EXAMPLE OF >insert random 3.5/pf spell here ARE YOU BANNING THAT TOO

Its relentless and unending, it monopolizes the GM and makes it just stressful because if you even fuck up once you may have opened up EVEN MORE ENDLESS QUESTIONS or possibly opened up some insane loophole he will use to rape your campaign inside out

>>50553332
Even clear answers don't solve the problem because he just cannot stop. He can't. Its painful.
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>>50553328

Anon, he posted a Sylvari, they're literally all-plant.

The hair are leaves, the skin is flower-petal soft, they wear bark for flowers and all sorts of other analogues.
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>>50553311

Well what the heck attitude am I supposed to have, you sharply-dressed ferrets!
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>>50552691
It's hard to blame that one on 2hu.

>"Hey, roughly what level of optimization should we all have so things don't get wonky?"
>"WTF HOW DARE YOU STOP TRYING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING"
is basically what happened there.
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>>50553274
>>50553264
I want to waifu 2hu while they play a cute trap tengu optimised for being lewded!
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>>50553346
No dude, go look at the Quick Rules thread in that HV game.

You'll observe a pattern. The more objective or "I'll just say no to that because mechanics" an answer is, the more he accepts it.

Just be clear with your answers.
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>>50553395
I know, but he could have chosen the high ground.

But let's just drop this. It ain't good for the thread.
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>>50553328
He says, in a game where being short indicates an entirely different species.

This is not a realistic game we're dealing with here.

also, yeah, what >>50553353 said. Pic related.
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>>50553398

Aya is a filthy crow and nothing good ever came out of her fingers *or* mind!
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>>50553395
Have you missed the fucking fact that you cant give a simple expression of how optimized something is?
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>>50553266
... why does that plant person have high heels?
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>>50553395
how the fuck would you even define the proper level of optimization. There's no 'OPTIMIZATION LEVEL 4 OF COURSE' answer. Its IMPOSSIBLE.

Its a garbage loaded question out of the gate and half the time it can be used as a bludgeon against characters the asker doesn't like.

Fuck that. Fuck 2hu.

>>50553407
Once again, he will continue to ask endless questions. He is an endless font of obscure questions designed to fuck over a DM.
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>>50553437

To show off their fat succulent plant booty?

What kind of question is this?
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>>50553437
Because she wants to be pretty. Deal with it.
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How do you determine your saving throw bonuses? I'm filling a character sheet for whenever my friends get around to buying their own rulebooks so they can GM and I'm completely stumped there.
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>it's a "nobody packed counters to invisibility, so someone is gonna get slowly raped by a will-o-wisp because we can't outrun it" episode
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>>50553458
Your class and level determines your base saves, and you get a bonus depending on your stats. High Dex boosts your reflex save for instance.
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>>50553387

>tfw you might very well play a 29 year old etc. etc., maybe even for your next character, because the world is full of fun possibilities

Like that.
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>>50553458
Take your class, this determines your base saving throws. Look at the level you're at. Use those.

Then add the relavent stat modifiers
Reflex-Dex
Fortittude-Con
Will-Wisdom

Then bonuses from feats, traits, items, etc. Make note of situational bonuses and the like.
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>>50553458
What class and level are you? Each class has a combination of fast and slow bonuses. Fast bonuses are 2+(level/2) round down, slow bonuses are (level/3) round down.
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>>50553438
Dude, you're running a gestalt game with like 30 point buy and tons of free feats.

You've got no right to complain when people wonder HOW high powered they can be.
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>>50553458
Also, never buy rulebooks, use d20pfsrd.com
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>>50553495
Please explain to me how i give an objective level of optimization cieling to a player because i'd love to fucking hear it

Because if i can't give a concrete one up from, its an impossible problem and the question and any answer will be used to bash and abuse other players, as well as being garbage.

Really. I'm waiting.
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>>50553475
Well technically, I did pack Faerie Fire

But the Will-o-Wisp was immune to it.
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What are some good classes to gestalt with Investigator(Empiricist)? Obviously should be something Int based. Mostly looking for something that can either cover up Empiricist's weaknesses(things skills can't do), or something that can put it's strength's really over the top.

I was considering Rogue(Phantom Thief) just to get silly with the skillmonkey-ing, but I dunno.
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>>50553454

I want to be pretty.
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>>50553475

>he doesnt keep a bag of flour or chalk dust

Lmao
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>>50553125
I've never been in a game with 2hu (did apply to HV though), I don't know 2hu personally, but even I know a dumbass stalker when I see one.

Hell for HV I called out some of the questions myself, but for the most part it was reasonable, if a bit exhausting.
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>>50552141
Saturday session got canceled which is saddening.
Sunday session I finally got to play my new Magus at level 6. (Old character died). I crit things good.
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>>50553485

How would you make the Tornado of Terror, /pfg/? Let's say I want to use RotJR rules.
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>>50553522
Ban anything that affects Vancian spells on spherecasting, because the two WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO MIX.

That'd be a great start.
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>>50553555
Wasn't the force blast one a fluff problem that the GM and 2hu eventually worked out anyway?
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>>50553566
That doesn't give me a concrete optimization ceiling i can simply express to a player IE: Optimization level 4.

Either provide that or fuck off.
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>>50553566
There are several abilities that let them do so and even the creators have stated that things like applicable sorcerer bloodlines apply to them.
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>>50553167
Well RAI says energy weapons are meant to be completely useless, designed from the ground up to tear your build's own feet off because shooting it was fast and not painful enough, but as long as RAW allows it, my warsoul's materializing beam cannons all day for *almost* as much viability as if he used a fucking culverin in their stead.
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>>50553538
We all do, Anon.
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>>50553398
Why tengu?

Why not superior kitsune?
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>>50553590
>There are several abilities that let them do so
[citation needed]

Spells and sphere abilities are supposed to be separate, that's why the bokor PrC exists.
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>>50553599

FILTHY.

CROW.
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>>50553259
What no Fubuki's fucking adorable.
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>>50553548
I blame inexperience with actually playing games and being retarded
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>>50553592
You should also look into the Plasma Blade as your melee option and discount lockpick.

http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentTechWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Plasma%20blade
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Thank you for your support everyone! It is not yet entirely official, but it looks like within the next few months the Unchained Gunslinger will be making its debut. All of your support has been great. When everything is finalized I'll likely be posting about it here.

Gonna talk again about my next project as well!

A Guide to Goblinoids, which will include the following:
Including the following:

Races:
>Bugbear
>Gubbins (aquatic goblins)
>Fleshed out Monkey Goblins
>Brawdwins (Native Outsider Goblins)
>Kojacks (Half Bugbear/Half Hobgoblin)
>Gremlins (Half Goblin/Half Hobgoblin)
>Meretroll (mistaken for a troll, actually a larger hairless bugbear)

Classes:
>hobgoblin Fighter archetype
>a summoner archetype focused on barghest
>barghest speaker witch archetype
>goblinoid bloodrager & sorcerer bloodlines
>druid & ranger archetypes using goblin dogs
>neutral evil anti-paladin archetype
>goblins oracle mystery
>Bugbear shaman archetype dealing with their weird undead culture
>Bugbear "born into death" oracle curse

As well as a bunch of goblin theme'd items, magical gear, spells, and feats!

I fucking love goblinoids.
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>>50553609
The arcane empowerment feats.

The balancing of the Destroyers handbook and one of the writers for Spheres of Power stated that stuff like Orc Bloodline, Draconic, etc apply to destructive blasts.
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>>50553532
Warder. Maybe Hawkguard.
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>>50553566
>>50553590
Actually they also specifically called out things like the ioun stones, etc and most methods of increasing caster level in vancian as being on the "bad idea don't allow this" side of things.
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>>50553398
>>50553424
>>50553599
>>50553610
What does a cute tengu trap even look like?
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>>50553658

Like Aya, only with a penis instead of a filthy cloaca?
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>>50553626
I don't like it to be honest.
"Half Fire and Half Electricity"
That there fucking kills it. If it was "Fire And Electricity" like amalgam-types or "Bludgeoning And Piercing" it would be great, but this means that if you do, say, 1d10+10 with it and get 20, you actually separately do 10, and 10.

Which means resist 10 on both completely negates the blade (and by extension most secondary effects and riders you might have if you'll recall).

You're entirely correct about the lockpick part and uh, I've done exactly that a few times. Although I think the GM gave up on locks months ago because mech plasma scalpels were just ONE of like ten different ways everyone had of telling doors and chests to just shut up and spit out valuables.
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>>50553631
This guy is right >>50553642

If you allow bloodlines and Blood Havoc and shit on Destruction, you get broken ass blasters.
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>>50553628
No, fuck off. You're not wanted here.
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>>50553687
Yeah, I never really got the advantage of splitting up damage types. Especially with energy where you're better off just hitting the not resistant thing full force.
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I need pictures of scaled women for a Vishkanya PC. It's been surprisingly difficult and I keep getting pictures of women WITH snakes. Does anyone know where I can start?

pic kinda related i guess
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>>50553683
But Cloaca often act as genital sheaths for penises
That's the beauty of the cloaca. It's like a Christmas present, you never know why's inside until you open it. It's Schrodinger's orifice!
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>>50553710
>If you allow bloodlines and Blood Havoc and shit on Destruction, you get broken ass blasters.
No you don't and the only text I can find suggesting that is Sslarn saying that on the Paizo forums. Compared to the playtest documents and guides written by one of the writers that calls out Bloodlines as working.
>broken ass blasters
Oxymoron. Unless you think Psions with Energy Affinity or Default Sorcerers are busted too.
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>>50553757
>Damage cant be overpowered
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>>50553712
You fuck off first, you do this every time with DHB and are even less helpful than Gareth is when he's drunk.
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>>50553748

That's gross!
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>>50553712
>>50553628
Do we hate DHB now?
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>>50553785
reminder that someone actually made a crossdressing maid trap blinkling for RotJR

Gareth's soul must be shattered at this point

>>50553789
no just one weird witch-hunter
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>>50553789

We're jealous of his success in making the ultimate Tian fucking machine.
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>>50553780
Compared to what a caster could be doing, no I don't think it's a crime that someone who devoted themselves to dealing damage actually does there fucking job competently. Something Sphere Blasters without static damage bonuses can't do.
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>>50553787
That's biology. I'm sorry you hate birds, reptiles, monotremes, tenrecs, and rabbits
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>>50553803
>Gareth's soul must be shattered at this point

Gareth's soul was shattered *way* before this, anon, by the BOOOOOOZE.
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>>50553818
You can stop any time cloacanon.
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>>50553780
>>50553710
Sphere Blasters don't get dazing spell.
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>>50553821
more shattered then.
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>>50553843
Powdered.
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>>50553803
>no just one weird witch-hunter
It's just kind of weird. DHB just seems happy and actually thanks everyone. Seems weird to target him for witch hunting.
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>>50553854
can you snort it.
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Hey guys. So I'm trying to make a Necromancer character for an upcoming campaign. I have played pathfinder a couple of times before now, but am not intimately familiar with it. I've done some research and found a few resources for necromancer characters, but nothing particularly detailed. I'm definitely wanting my character to focus on summons and minions, and less spell casting. I'm pretty set on an orc or half-orc because I just really like the idea of orcish magic users. If possible I'd like to be a melee fighter able to summon the dead and commune with spirits and dark forces, rather than a pure spellcaster. My GM is fine with pretty much anything so long as its more or less balanced, so theres not a whole lot of limits I need to adhere to. Any tips or resources for me?
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>>50553866

Do you want a bloody nose and ruined lungs?
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>>50552640
why did you have to make people masturbate to murdering Shizuka in particular

what did i do.
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>>50553780
See but here's the thing, is that damage is WAY easier to taper-off.
Most damage-dealing is done to single targets, which while it CAN eliminate bosses in one hit, you then have all the mooks to deal with.
Those that target multiple things, such as a fireball, are more easily-avoided since they almost always include saves to halve or evade them.
Finally, there are not only PoW counters to stop such attacks, but with the advent of Weapon Master's Handbook, even regular 1st-party martials can simply make an attack check and outright-negate many dangerous blasting effects; Cut From The Air, Smash From The Air, Deflect/Catch Arrows with the use of Stamina, Spellcut, all of these things are options that a martial (who, remember, will have plenty of feats to do this) can be built for to stop a blaster. And if you're not fighting martials, you're fighting spellcasters, who have their own ways to avoid high damage.
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>>50553398
/pfg/ needs to go home
>>>/trash/
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>>50553599
I'd do him being a kitsune too if I could, but I can't say all the depraved things or he'd run away!
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>>50553731
It's not. That's the thing. It's not an advantage at all.

It is a deliberate WEAKENING. You'll note this is almost only found in the tech guide too... The other exception being Kineticist.....

Half and Half is basically the opposite of "deals X and Y". With a multityped damage, you use the better of them. If something deals Fire AND Electricity AND Untyped AND Gravitic AND Negative, then the WORST one for the target is what applies.

If your effect/damage/etc deals 100 and is of the above: If the target would be healed by gravity, but takes 50% more damage from electrical? It takes 150. If it's immune to fire, electricity, gravity, and has 30 resist to negative energy damage, then it took normal damage. Is its regeneration offlined by fire damage? Then it's offline, even though it's wearing a ring to be immune to the stuff! YES!

Meanwhile, the split basically means "everything gets to apply against it". Hell if you went three-way: "deals 1/3 Fire, 1/3 Electricity and 1/3 Slashing", then not only would you often lose a point from rounding (booo) but DR would apply to the slashing part as well.
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>>50553905
>>>/trash/
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>>50553885

Shizuka is a lovely broken cinnamon bun!
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>>50553892
THIS

Making a "twinked" out blaster is like being at the head of the shortbus, you worked much harder to get where a fucker with a bow was by default.
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>>50553902
Please no.

Don't make me have to deal with them there too.
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>>50553929
>lovely
Has the lowest appearance in the game desu.

>broken

I don't see how.

>cinnamon bun

I don't see how
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Hey guys, does anyone know what 3pp had the Not!Hookshot item?
I think it might've been DSP.
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>>50553930
To be fair, the fucker with the bow gets a lift in his daddy's limo.
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>>50553929
>>50553956
Which Shizuka?
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>>50553978
HV from the context clues.
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>>50553956

I'm complimenting you, anon. Just because the words aren't necessarily true does not mean they aren't sincere.

>Has the lowest appearance in the game desu.

Her character art says otherwise, along with her description.

>I don't see how.

She's a psychopath!

>I don't see how

She's pure in her impurity and must be protected, obviously!
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>>50553989

If Shizuka is a lovely broken cinnamon bun, what is Sersheon?
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>>50553989
>shizuka
>needing to be protected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnedYYgg3N0
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>>50553905
Jesus when we will finally manage to stop all those lolis that go around luring old men into vans.
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>>50554009

Sersheon is a frighteningly puffy and thick cinnamon bun, practically dripping with glaze!
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What /pfg/ affiliated games are still recruiting? Does anyone have a list?
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>>50554053
There were a few others besides RotJR i heard of (a mummy's mask game? A fluffy tail? Something else) but they may have closed like HV
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>>50553892
> Cut From The Air, Smash From The Air, Deflect/Catch Arrows with the use of Stamina, Spellcut, all of these things are options that a martial (who, remember, will have plenty of feats to do this
Isn't that available to fighters and only fighters? The rest of your post still stands, I have no idea why people flip out at destruction casters being able to actually do something now aside from the fact that 2hu pointed it out.
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>>50554068
I know there was an Iron Gods one as well.
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>>50553885
Oh, I didn't specify Shizuka, I just made people state their true twisted desires!

>>50554053
Technically RoTJR as HV has chosen and fluffy tails died.
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>>50554073
no by taking 3 feats any character can do that provided they have enough AOOs
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>>50553902
Nah, it'd be a shorter trip to just send them to Towergirls General, since they already have a Trap Tengu Princess
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>>50552428
>>50552532
>>50552824

This character is 32 different kinds of illegal but i don't care, i'm bored


Tetori Monk | Ungermaw

Millie Gordo

Shalelu rarely sees things that surprise her. This was one of them. She descended upon a burning caravan that had been attacked by goblins. She expected to see the travelers slaughtered and the goblins burning the things that weren't already burnt.

Instead she found a portly girl roughly three or four years old sucking the meat off the arm of a dead goblin. Several skeletal goblins littered the ground around the girl, bones gnawed and gnashed.
Shalelu rescued the obviously mad child from the attack and attempted to find a foster home for her. Any home that could spare enough for another mouth to feed. However, Millie proved to be more than just one mouth, and more like six and quickly gave her back to shalelu after bad times. (Including an incident eating the family cat after being denied thirds.)

Shalelu concluded that the child couldn't be taken care of, So she decided to instead teach the child to take care of herself. Her very first lesson, how to forage and hunt for one's own food. Millie proved an able student and became Shalala's apprentice. As she grew older, she started making money on the pelts and skins of the creatures she hunted down. She mostly spent this on more food, until a cadre of foreign wrestlers passed through. Enamored by their demonstrations and techniques, she approached them and offered to pay them for tutalage

Over the following year, Millie proved to be an adept student and quickly absorbed the techniques they presented, swiftly becoming a "Sumotai" as they called it.

Millie is a jolly soul, though very self centered. Weather self enjoyment, self improvement; her own interests at the forefront of her mind. However, one of the things she enjoys most is good company, and that is something she's willing to fight for... or at least skip brunch for.
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Do you guys have any preferred character sheets for gestalt characters or other complicated characters? I'm tired of making my own excel spreadsheets for everything.
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>>50554131
>Do you guys have any preferred character sheets for gestalt characters or other complicated characters?

I just use a standard Myth-Weavers sheet and have separate columns for each half desu.
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>>50554034

Are we sure that's glaze?
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>>50554221

I don't want to know, but Sersheon sure seems to enjoy it!
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>>50554128

That is fucking retarded.
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>>50550878

How much of this just comes from his wealth?
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Wow, Kingdom Death General has beat us for worse OP image posted
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>>50554233
What kind of cinnamon bun is Yori, and why is she a cracker?
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What's a wondrous item that costs less that 5k that'll ensure I can't get lost and/or die of starvation in the wilderness?
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Mfw I realize smash and cut from the air are strength req fests

Did I and all other dex fags just get btfo?
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>>50554289
Gee ya think!
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>>50554313
Isn't it just 13 STR though
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>>50554307
Ring of Sustenance is 2.5k.
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>>50554328
thats enough to blow dex fags the fuck out tho
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>>50554333
Kind of boring but I guess it solves the issue of of starving to death.
How about not getting lost like an idiot?
Is there some magical map or compass that points towards the nearest settlement?
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>>50554340

Not really. Even most dex characters want some strength for prereqs.
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>>50554294

Yori is not a cracker or a cimmanon bun! She's a biscuit!

Dry and flaky, with a soft side when you really dig in!

The real challenge is Tyran and Marshall!
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>>50554371
what other strength feat do dexfags really need?
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>>50554128

Why is she a cannibal tho?
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>>50554313
QUALITY
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>>50554328
>>50554340
>>50554389
Laughing_Vigilante.jpg
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>>50554313
Just take counters to shut down ranged attacks.
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>>50554355
Do you have UMD and/or can you get UMD?
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>>50554386

Its a class feature, Ungermaw is all about being humanoid Kirby.
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>>50554385

Power attack. Piranna strike doesn't get the extra damage with a 2 handed weapon.
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>>50554443
My UMD is +5.
I can reshuffle my skills to get it to +9.
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>>50554448
Why do that if your going Dex though, may as well just pump STR.
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>>50554355
You could just buy a normal map and compass, they grant you bonuses to your survival checks to not get lost
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>>50554458
How much, though?
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>not having str AND dex
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>>50554473

>mfw 18 Strength 14 Dex
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>>50554128

What's her favorite food? Is it man flesh?
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>>50554473

how 2 giantdad in pf
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>>50554448
Its almost impossible to get dex to damage 1.5 with two handed weapons, it only functions if you're a Urogue. Even with path of war thats the case.

Only reason to get power attack instead of pirhana for a dex build is if you have access to scarlet throne style which makes it god tier again

>tfw i get power attack for free so i dumped str

FUCK
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>>50554457

Because even dex people often go to 13 strength for prereqs and polearm dancer give you a LOT of reach 2 handed weapons that use dex.
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>>50554484

>raw builds

get the fuck out
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>>50554466
I think +2 each, I'm not sure
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>>50554490

Unironically the Zweihander Sentinel, half-giant, with a large greatsword and full plate.
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>>50554473
>Not being a ranged slut
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>>50554466
Compass is +2, map is +1. Can I ask why this is such a concern for you?
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>>50554490
>20 fukn Strength
>12 Dexterity But don't tell anyone you leveled that up

U fukn fagot
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>>50554537

>tfw no ranged sluts in RotJR
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>>50554488
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>>50554484
>18 Strength 14 dex
>Not 14 strength 18 dex

It's like you don't even want to shoot bows.
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>>50554544
I kind of want to be the "wandering stranger" character and I'd like it if I didn't get lost constantly like an idiot.
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>>50554264
I can answer that!

Most of his immunities come from his wealth, except for near immunity to ranged attacks. His mobility, high damage, most of his saves, and high HP comes from majority class features. Overall clever use of money plugged holes in his defense that merely high Saves/HP/AC could not cover alone.
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>>50554557
Isn't it 10 Dexterity?
>>50554490
Ring of (Favor and) Protection, Muleback Cords tied to a Ring instead, E.Flux for Chaosflame and/or Lightning.
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what if i teleport him to the moon.
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>>50554575
>I kind of want to be the "wandering stranger" character and I'd like it if I didn't get lost constantly like an idiot.

Here's all you need to become the ultimate wanderer!
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>>50554620
teleport who?
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>>50554569
There are several ranged characters though.
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>>50554128

I want to lay down on that belly like its a pillow.
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>>50554652

But are they *sluts?*
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>>50554473
>>50554484
>tfw GM combined weapon finesse and deadly agility instead of letting you take deadly agility normally
>he carried this ruling over to all games
>you wanted to do a QUALITY (almost) build Vigilante, but now the whole thing is fucked up because the only benefit to Lethal Grace is ruined
>still haven't figured out a good way to just say "heeeey, how about we use some feat tax rules instead, since you like to stick to mostly 1pp stuff anyway?"
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>>50554637
the mr unkillable ultimate pvp guy

If I place his ass on the moon how fucked is he.
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>>50554673
>If I place his ass on the moon how fucked is he.

The moon is populated by demons who pour out of a portal on the dark side of the moon, the most common non-demon inhabitant are half-succubus humanoids and their (often quite drugged up) humanoid parents!
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>>50554691
>The moon is populated by demons who pour out of a portal on the dark side of the moon, the most common non-demon inhabitant are half-succubus humanoids and their (often quite drugged up) humanoid parents!
Wait what? Which book?
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>>50554573
>tfw Sorcery but still levelled str and dex so you could use all those cool swords
>and equip load for all the cool armor
>tfw dropout sorcerer.
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>>50554673
What are you going to use to teleport him to the moon? Does it have a save?

If so, he passes it.
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Here's how you beat DHB's Autism fighter

Cast Maze on him

Walk away. He'll be stuck for 10 minutes at which point you are long fucking gone.

>12 int

kek.
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>>50554716

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Moon_(Golarion)

>From Golarion, the moon is seen to have a shadowy area on its lower quadrant. Astronomers document this as a mountain range or a canyon; they are wrong. The Moonscar was formed over 12,000 years ago during a disaster which led to an invasion of the moon by the Abyss: the Moonscar is an horrific forest home to demons, abyssal plants and monsters. The Moonscar is dominated by succubus-mothered half-fiends who are a great threat to the peoples of Golarion. The fiends are capable of travelling from the moon to Golarion to snatch victims to return to the Moonscar, there to corrupt and breed and further the half-fiend population. Even more insidious is the return of some of the victims, after corruption, to twist their earthly homes to chaos and evil

>An ancient rumour exists that when the Starstone plunged to Golarion thousands of years ago, parts of it broke off in the planet's atmosphere and ended up landing on the moon.

Not only will he be fine, you're making him a GOD.
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>>50554727
Trick him into thinking we're friendly, teleport to moon, leave his ass there to rot as I teleport away.
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>>50554575

>Not wanting to be the wandering stranger who travels the world and always shows where people need a hero most-not because he's looking for people to help, but because he couldn't read a map to save his life
>He was originally trying to go from Tamran to Fort Ramgate, but due to poor navigation skills, has ended up traveling all across the world
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>>50552141
Not a whole lot. Been kinda slow. Between wrapping up a few commission pieces it's just been a few Geliche scribs here and there.
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>>50554745

The moon has atmosphere, anon.
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>>50554769
its fine because at that point he's no longer my problem.
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>>50554739
Well fuck, my wizard now has a goal that won't upset any of the neighboring kingdoms.
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>>50554490
Warlord, with a dip in either Zweisen or an appropriate Fighter for Fullplate
Half-Giant
+5 Large Flaming Burst Anarchic Greatsword
+5 Titanic Fullplate
Maybe some kind of Buckler to be Dank Weed shield
Belt of Giant's Strength
Ring of (Favor and)Protection +5, Ring of Freedom of Movement
Muleback Chords
Discipline are Scarlet Throne, Primal Fury, and Elemental Flux (for Black Flame)
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>>50554784

>He's no longer a problem
>No longer a problem

Anon, don't you get it.

He's got a planet full of demons and a portal directly to the Abyss.

He's not Autism Fighter anymore, he's the Doom Slayer.
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>>50554769
Not only that, but he doesn't have to Breath, Eat, or Drink.

>>50554745
Now he's on the moon, he's just gonna come back after he kills a fuck ton of demons.

>>50554739
>Not only will he be fine, you're making him a GOD.
What is Autism Fighter's domains?

>>50554730
That doesn't beat him, you just avoided the fight.
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>>50554801

>He's the Doom Slayer
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>>50554801
We'll, he does have Rage from VMC
HERE COMES THE PAIN TRAIN
CHOO CHOO
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>>50553930
You haven't seen optimized Destruction blasters.
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>>50554748
I've already decided to do that after posting here.
It's gonna be great.
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>>50554730
It's a DC 20. So if he takes 20 he's making it out in 2 minutes.

You'll still be long gone though.
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>>50554801
Good enough.

You forget that wizards have no sense of right or wrong, as long as he's no longer being a nuisance threatening to kill me its fine.

>>50554816
>i avoided the fight

Yes, I did

Thats all it takes for a Wizard to ultimately win

Sure this guy is basically nigh-saitama tier of unstoppable and unkillable, but if he keeps coming after me, all he'll ever get is me avoiding fights

I can't imagine anything more unfulfilling for a fighter.
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>>50553892
>you need 4 feats to stop a blaster

I guess all those monsters are just fucked then?
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>>50554887
i'm not sure you can take 20 on a maze spell. Even so, 2 minutes is more than enough for a wizard to fuck off.
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>>50554851
I have, they stop being strong the moment the party gets iterative, haste, magic items woth a damn and enemies start being immune to everything and have DR/Evasion out the asshole.


You're spending more resources and encountering more stumbling blocks than someone who just decided to play a fighter or an initiator.
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Couldn't you also beat autismfighter by placing a geass on him in some way? the key would be stalling for 10 minutes of casting time.
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>>50554936
The issue is that I'm pretty sure you can't geass someone to do something that's obviously fatal without incurring a Will save which I'm sure he'll pass given what everyone else is saying about him.
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Can autism fighter win a 1v1 against that fucking invincible DD Warder someone posted a few months back?
Assuming they're both, what, level 5?
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>>50554922
Please, bitch, the real problem with Destruction blasters is they blow up GROUPS of enemies and not just 1 enemy.

>immune to everything
Stone Blast says hi.
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>>50554891
>Sure this guy is basically nigh-saitama tier of unstoppable and unkillable, but if he keeps coming after me, all he'll ever get is me avoiding fights
You're making the assumption he is going after you and not the other way around.

>>50554673
>>50554620
So here is the thing. The Moon has a city and magic item economy. He would likely walk to the City of the Faceless (might take him awhile) and purchase an interplanetary teleport back to Golarion.
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>>50554961
you don't need him to do something fatal you just need to get him to fuck off from you.
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>>50554980
>Stone Blast says hi.
DR+Reflex save inflation says high
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>>50555000
Reflex is the lowest save on monsters.
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>tfw no campaign where we travel to a research facility on the moon harvesting Hell Energy that has become overrun with demons
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Could autism fighter beat the unbeatable Zealot memebuild we used to shitpost about?
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>>50554980
Maybe you shouldn't pack enemies together like retards?
>>50555019
And they'll still be passing consistently by mid levels, before evasion/improved evasion come into play.
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Lets play a campaign where the goal is to track down and slay Autism Fighter.
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>>50554816
>What is Autism Fighter's domains?
We'll first of all, the correct grammar would be "What are"

Secondly, thedomains and subdomains would probably be as follows:
>Destruction- Catastrophe, Rage
>Knowledge- Thought
>Glory- Hubris, Legend
>Madness- Insanity
>Strength- Competition, Self-Realization
>Protection- Defense
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>>50555048
>Six domains
Only the core deities get that many.
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>run across autism fighter
>get some hair from him
>maze him and run

>two weeks later when he's tracked you down you've grown an army of autism fighters via clone

SASUGA.
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>>50555046
I actually like Eobard's backstory.

He is a Nexxian experiment from the Flesh Forges as a weapon against Geb. It ended with him eventually breaking his bonds, killing a good number of mages, and fleeing to Osirion. Over years of being a slave soldier his hatred had matured into cold malice. He is now the leader of a terrorist organization that's purpose is the destabilization and destruction of both Geb and Nex. Personally he plans on becoming powerful enough to kill both Geb and Nex, and searches the world for clues to where Nex is.
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>>50554801
Right. Get out the riffs, boys.
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>>50555042
>Maybe you shouldn't pack enemies together like retards?

They're going to be packed together eventually unless they're all ranged.

Then the Selective Blast comes out.

>And they'll still be passing consistently by mid levels, before evasion/improved evasion come into play.

Hah, by the same token an initiator's attacks will be missing. And trust me, initiators CAN'T actually guarantee autohits unless they're Zenith Striking.
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>>50555072
Then remove Protection.
Also, if a drunk, an uppity girl too big for her boots, 4 halflings in a coat, and Not Buddha could become Major Deities, I'm sure Autism Fighter could
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>>50555108
>tfw Nexxian mage
>tfw your boss tells you that you gotta go find Autism Fighter
This is suffering
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>>50555156
>4 halflings in a coat
what
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Couldn't you simply kill autism fighter with enough people casting magic missile?
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>>50555174
Norgaborgadorgaburger
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>>50555174
Everyone knows that's the secret identity of Norgorber.
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>>50555144
Yes, so at worst a few encounters of mooks get wiped out and they can deal with mooks and whittle down bosses fairly well. What's the issue. A destruction caster is supposed to do AoE damage, they do AoE damage very well. Other classes still rock single target damage and durability, those focued in other spheres have a leg up in mobility defense, and out of combat utility.

The sphere now does it's fucking job? What is there to complain about?
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>>50554128
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>>50555203
>mooks
Try on-CR enemies.

Destruction is fucking retarded.
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>>50555217
>>50555217
>>50555217
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>>50555207
Again, martials who spec can slaughter a CR appropriate encounter without breaking a sweat to. No to mention regular old casters using standard battlefield control tactics or good old dazing fireballs.
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>>50552232
only check in here like, monthly. mostly go gitp.

cant stand the super trans-fetishized dev dicksucking box that are the paizo forums.

i come here because people here dont get banned for simple disagreement, and because not all discussion needs to be archived and easily searchable and tied to who you are all the time. sometimes i just have a simple question or want a quick rundown on whats new.

plus sometimes the dsp guys are here.
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>>50553869
oracle?
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