/swg/: Star Wars General: Authentic Huttese Dining Experience

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>>50458181
More Hutt food.

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Do we have any canon inkling of what the Income T-85 looks like or how it's different from the T-70? The Wook shows a picture of a red and black X-Wing, which is apparently from Before the Awakening, but it looks exactly like a T-70 so idk.

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KOTE

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I still love how much this looks like a Majora's Mask razor sword.

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>>50458420

Well, the paint scheme on Black One is actually an anti-sensor coating, so it's possible that might be something generic among T-85s?

But if all they are is a Black and Red T-70 which is somehow better, I'm okay with this.

>>50458420

I feel like I got the impression somewhere that it was pretty much just the T-70 with a shiny new paint job, but I could just be making that up.

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>>50458480
>anti-sensor coating
Proper Razgriz StealthX with classic T-65 s-foil split when?

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>>50458181

/swg/, I've been thinking about playing a Chiss for my next EotE game. Are there any pitfalls I need to avoid, like with Mandos?

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>>50458531
Chis honestly seem really lackluster in EotE, otherwise you;d be best off playing an orphan with no knowledge where they came from.

Like Spiker!

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>>50458565
Better image of Spiker.

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>>50458579
That story was a blast

>>50458491
>>50458480
I'm torn. On the one hand, the T-70 is a solid design, on the other I'd kind of expect something that looks really different from other X-wings given how much farther along it is design wise. We'll have to see if they show up in VIII.

>>50458634

In theory they should seeing as the NR is going to be fighting tbe FO directly after they got Pearl-Harbor-times-a-billion'd in VII. But that's only assuming the people making VIII remember they exist.

Most likely they'll just continue with the X-Wings we've already seen and the people who write the reference books and actually give a shit about that stuff will just label it a 85 to match with previous lore.

OMG TIE Defender in next Rebels episode!

>>50458738
And at least one A-Wing thanks to that set photo.

God I hope Episode VIII actually does and goes to new things

>>50458795
I don't see anything on Disney's youtube, and I would hate if the Defender predated Yavin.

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>>50458738
>the NR is going to be fighting tbe FO directly after they got Pearl-Harbor-times-a-billion'd in VII

Is this confirmed yet? I mean it's a totally logical assumption based on everything we know, so I certainly hope for something like pic-related.

>>50458807
Yeah that's good! Hopefully we'll see more ship diversity, B-Wings in particular deserve some time in the limelight seeing as they got shafted by bluescreen in ROTJ. Plus maybe we can get some orignal designs as well.

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>>50458817

>>50458807
>A-Wing

>This is Black Leader, I'm being swarmed by TIEs!
>Don't worry honey, I'll help you fight the First Order!
>Mooooomm!

>>50458861
Ah, a schematic, I can sorta accept it being in the pre-prototype stage.

>>50458817
I hope it's just in the prototype phase.
Being in design before Yavin is nothing big, just so long as it's not at production stage yet

>>50458817

There's a screencap of the blueprints, almost literally from an old EU guidebook with Hera at "concern level almost".

We'll know more as the week goes on, hopefully it's like, an early experimental (I/e the /x7) and not the full blown TIE/D design. That said, I think Rebels is trying too hard not to involve X-Wings, so a lot of Imperial fighter tech rolling out doesn't make as much sense as it did in the old EU, where basically like a year or so before Yavin there was a lot of vying for what would theoretically replace the /LN, and the fact that the X-Wing was stolen by the rebellion kind of cinched the need for /INs and /Ds to actually get out there.

Also, god forbid they actually think about what shit to throw in besides fanservice, what role would the defender actually be solving in Rebels, regular Interceptors are kicking the shit ouf of the Rebs and their 15-year old As. It'd make much more sense for them to say, pull the TIE/AG out of nowhere, a convoy escort TIE. That would actually make strategic sense and you could sell some new toys.

>>50458861

Do you think LFL and FFG talk about XWM any? Does Disney/LF know how popular Defenders are right now?

>>50458898
Cool plot could be Rebels do something to disrupt or delay production.
Has it as a threat, and let's the rebels be involved with the original trilogy without being involved

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>>50458929
>so a lot of Imperial fighter tech rolling out doesn't make as much sense as it did in the old EU
On the other hand, this could set the stage for the return of classic Legends Sienar, the most magical workplace in the galaxy.

>>50458929
They've got Wedge now, perfect time to introduce the X-wing

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>>50458929
Defenders are fantastic, but I'd love it if they brought back Avengers to fill their old role as the logical step up from the Avanced x1 before you got to the Defender's ludicrously high price tag.

>>50458977

Hell, worst-case scenaeio they can always just make up some new, even crazier shit to fill in the post-Yavin gaps stuff like the Defender used to fill. That's where all these designs came from in the first place; they never show up in the movies.

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>>50458977
>Sienar
I've got four of those posts capped, but the last two showed up black for some reason.

>>50458977
>>50458989

See, this sort of thing I think works for Rebels. You already had a little bit of it, and you've got Grand Admiral "Missile Boat" Thrawn in the show now. Give them some Xs and some new aces, they start popping eyes and squints. You need some real new tech out there.

Avengers, Aggressors, even Experimentals they work perfect for a show like Rebels as maybe an episode or a couple of episodes (like the Interdictor episode, which was pretty good) "Holy shit scary TIEs are all over us, we lost another 6 guys in Phoenix."

And then smash cut to thrawn talking with a Sienar exec being like "I need more bat shit crazy fighters!"

Hell, it's the perfect lead in to the TIE Hunter. Storm Commandos are already canon again, pretty sure.

No, I'm not JUST hoping LFL recanonizes some ships so I can get them in XWM

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>>50459038
>new, even crazier shit
I can't wait for nuCygnus to shit out something even wackier than the Missile Boat, then.

>>50459055
Please post them, I need to save them

>>50459079

Rebels is actually in the ideal time for the theoretical predecessor, the Assault Gunboat. Imagine giving the Ghost a run for her money with some Macross-level shit.

>>50459069
I see Thrawn being more pragmatic.
Seeing the rebels as an excellent test bed for designs.
They will fail, but he will learn things in the failure.

>>50459095
Yes, they need the Gunboat.

>>50459069
>>50459115
I almost feel like this is a test, Thrawn leaking the basics of a terrifying design (that the Empire would never actually fund till they started losing dogfights) just to lure the rebels in.

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>>50459095
>Gunboats ambush the Ghost and destroy it in an orgy of missiles and lasers
>Wedge, the sole survivor, becomes the new protagonist
>Cast rounded out by Hobbie, Biggs, Porkins, and Garven Dreis
>X-Wing: The Animated Series
A man can dream.

>>50459115
What we really need is to bring back Grand Admiral Zaarin. He was the real guy pushing insane fighter designs until something stuck.

>>50459095
You. I like you.

>>50459168

>Thrawn can't defeat the rebels, he just doesn't have the time or the resources.
>Emperor reassigns him to the Outer Rim to oversee more interesting but less prestigious projects
>His replacement will be a new Grand Admiral, and he has some ideas....
>Shot of blueprints of a TIE Avenger

>>50459153
Hera is ok. I can stand her being injured and forced into mission command base officer mode.
Sabine too, maybe

>>50459221
Parting shot of Thrawn being introduced to his new flag captain, and his glorious white moustache

>>50459282

It'd be salt and pepper pre-Yavin at least, surely?

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>>50459233
>mission command base officer mode
Maybe, though I feel like she'd need a bigger, badder ride than a light freighter for that sort of gig. A proper home base to accommodate all those shiny new T-65As that we'll probably be seeing soon.

>>50459313
>It'd be salt and pepper pre-Yavin at least, surely?
Well, pellaeon would have been I think 52? as of yavin, so it could be, although all-white is certainly entirely possible. I, for one will almost certainly be completely white-haired by 45.

>>50459313
Rebels is like 3BBY, so mostly white, very little grey.

>>50459433
>>50459888
My father's up around 50 and still pretty black-hair heavy.

>>50458420
>>50458480
>>50458634
>>50458738

The T-85 hadn't been designed yet, so they were forced to use T-70 designs for it in Before the Awakening.

Source: Pablo.

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I keep forgetting what game/engine this is a mod ofr.

>>50458181
Just wanted to say that this series is top-tier.

>>50460982

I still remember the one where Boba Fett straight-up murders that pirate with a fucking magic trick.

>>50460016
But Hellion clearly is glorious Silver not long after Yavin

>>50461031

...Which one was that?

I ask because that sounds pretty great.

>>50461321
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett:_Bounty_on_Bar-Kooda

This is the first book in a four-part series

>>50461321
>>50461490

It's fuckin' great. Honestly, I'd love a good Star Wars series that just follows a group of nobodies and scoundrels who're desperately trying to survive in the chaos and destruction of the Galactic Civil War.

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>>50458738
Well, the New Republic was demilitarizing itself and the Resistance is a small cell scrounging together what leftover equipment it can. Since half of their T-70 fleet was destroyed at Death Planet 9000, it only makes sense that they would find a mothballed squadron of old T-65's to help improve their numbers, complete with a volunteer group of semi-retired veteran pilots whose old-fashioned warmongering ways have put them at edge with the newly pacified surrender-monkeys running the New Republic. And so that Denis Lawson can reprise his role as Wedge Antilles to become a pivotal member of the resurgent canon.

>>50458181
>mfw I have the comic that's from
It's pretty good.

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I love these little pigbats.

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Their story may have been dumb but these guys look like they could have been good dumb muscle for the likes of the Hutts.

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>>50462111

This helmet was also cool.

>>50462111

They did contribute to a truly amazing cutscene, though.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8627383

>>50462282
That doesn't work at all, why not just link to the video with a timestamp?

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>>50458861
>Hera doing the maths on how many of Phoenix Sqn is going to survive contact with the enemy

A: None of them!

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I don't remember if this a tusken tent or a survival tent, but I hate bioware for mirroring the frozen OUTSIDE skin of the survival tent for the interior, even when the heater is clearly on.

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>>50462879
Cool rifle.

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Fun little configuration

>>50462319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPSyzF_39Z0

17:30
THIS IS TYTHON!

>>50462090
I have em too (around here the story was split between multiple magazines).

>>50459168
>>50459221

>Zaarin for Season 4

Fuck yeah. Throw in Steele and Harkov, and we're all good.

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>>50459055
>>50459090
For you anon. The whole thing actually started when I inquired about whether Sinear would fund a "fighter" armed with capital ship class turbolasers, to which the answer was a resounding "yes".

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>>50464980
This was my contribution to the writefaggotry, ignore the rampant typos.

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>>50464992
FAST

>>50465007
>>50464992
Goddamnit I just realized that my terrible caps cut some words off. If any anon has better ones feel free to come forward, otherwise I'll check the archives and see if I can get better ones.

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>>50465016
I got the last one

>>50458531
What're the pitfalls of being a Mandalorian?

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>>50465073
I'm guessing that the most common pitfall is being insufficiently metal. Traviss and Filoni Mandos are chump change compared to the glorious KOTOR Mandalorians.

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>>50465055
All cropped and purdy

>>50458977
>return of classic Legends Sienar

We can only hope

>>50465073
I figure by pitfalls, he means info and restrictions your character needs to abide by IC. Things like Mando's always wearing the armor, and the like, that will get you in a bit of trouble if you forget them.

>>50458861
Looted rebel defenders for x-wing incoming

Pilots include two versions of Sabine

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>>50466163
>Still no looted Interceptors
>Still no Lieutenant Kettch

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>>50465552
NOICE, thanks a million anon

New species announced for No Disintegrations for EotE.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/11/22/predatory-species/

Clawdites!

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>>50467321
>Clawdites
Fuck yes.

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Has anybody made Clone Wars content for FFG Star Wars RPG, official or otherwise, I plan on running a Republic vs CIS game.

>>50468948
For clone Wars ship stats check out Shipfag's Hangar in the OP. Other stuff? Refluff to your heart's content

>>50468948
A bunch of stuff has been officially stated already. Missing droid ships, ARC-170s and the Ep3 Jedi Starfighter.

>>50469753
I always wondered what caused the Jedi to change the order's main starfighter partway through the war.

>>50470411
Look at how much aviation developed throughout ww2

How is this for a double regen list?

>>Heroes Poe
>>PTL
>>R5-P9
>>Pattern Analyzer
>>AT
>>Title

>Norra
>>PTL
>>R2-D2
>>Tail Gunner
>>Vectored Thrusters
>>Title

>Bandit Squadron Pilot
>>VT

>>50470411
I wonder why the Jedi use fighters and not shuttles on their missions. Hyperspace travel isn't instant y'know.

Any guesses on how the Martial Artist tree is gonna work from No Disintegrations? Think it'll have a talent to change the ruling attribute of brawl to Agility?

>>50470411
>change the order's main starfighter
They didn't. Plenty of Jedi, including Plo Koon, kept on flying the Delta-7. The introduction of the Eta-2 just happened to give the OJO a GOTTAGOFAST alternative.

>>50470507

In the movies you can apparently get from anywhere in the galaxy to anywhere else in a couple hours.

Post ruusan reformation we have the jedi service corps, but before that, what do you think happened to jedi in training who were not allowed to progress to knight, for whatever reason?

>>50470581
Jedi agricorps. Have fun talkign to plants and building wells on outer rim colony worlds that makes any african clay town look like manhattan

>>50470708
Ah shite read After Ruusan, not before ruusan.

>>50470742
yeah, that's why I asked. Though there's nothing preventing them from going a bit Roman republic style and dumping the initiate on some far away outer rim world, barely farmable, with a small patch of land.
You paint a vivid image of Afrihattan IV though.

>>50470708
It makes one wonder why nobody in the Agricorps was ever successful or entrepreneurial enough to start an agribusiness. Surely, Force fuckery would lend itself well to farming and animal husbandry.

>>50470831
Jedi indoctrination. To break from the Order is to break with the only family you have ever known. The order provides everything you need, so why go into business and risk losing everything?

>>50458181
SFS hires you to design a new TIE.

The catch is Raith wants it to be like a TIE/LN but with double the... Everything.

>>50470708
This always struck me as extra stupid

>>50471093
easy solution, we'll use the highest technology (duct tape) to create a tandem TIE fighter. TIEs are too cheap individually to install a hyperdrive ring to them, but a large hyperdrive ring that fits 2 ties could be easily sold as its own product. That way you've got 2 ties worth of power, speed, solar panels, cockpits, laser cannons, pilots, and a hyperdrive they share for the low cost of one hyperdrive ring.

>>50471093

So four solar panel wings forming a box around the cockpit?

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>>50471093
Let me present to you: The Double TIE (official designation TIE/LN^2

>>50471225
>Double the twin-ions
>Quad ion engines
Would that make it a QIE instead of a TIE?

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>>50471225
>not replacing the center wing with a blaster-gunpod

>>50471093

So, one TIE fighter attatched to another TIE via a salvage crane.

Are there rules for Salvage Cranes in the RPG? I kind of want a YT-1300 with one, or maybe two and I can get my Outlaw Star on.

I've seen a lot of discussion about how RAC/crew Kylo is going to be the next dominant build. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't old Chewie's ability counter ISYTDS?

>>50471255
> blaster-gunpod

You think too small. TURBOLASER!

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>>50463208
Some alien design I remember liking.

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For all TOR talked up Abyssinian, they made them SMALLER than they were in other media.

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>>50472688
I liked how Starfighter gave the Trade fed a bunch of smaller freighters, superfreighters, and dropships.

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>>50466955
son a bitch i feel stupid for missing the later end of that thread now

Gotten some interesting leads on the Striker, hearing translated from someone who has seen work from the Polish distributor who shows more text off in their version of the preview.

PS3 generic translated as "Defender of Scarif"
PS4 genetic is Black Squadron Scout
PS5 Pilot is "Countdown"
PS6 Pilot is "Pure Sabacc" and appears to have an attacking related ability

and the new unique EPT starts with "Leader" in Polish, so that's interesting.

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What shitty drivers.

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Some dumb size contrast.
>>50474858
Actually that seems to be some sort of makeshift larger transport.

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I loved some of the prefab houses in this game too.

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I wish there was a better middle ground between the helmet with nothing running along the jawline and the oversized ones on the standard Mantellian Sep helmet jaw/chin things, guess I gotta learn to draw it myself.

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>>50465144
>KOTOR Mandalorians

TotJ mando's, fuckstick

KotOR a shit

>>50475685
Canderous and the KOTOR comic Mandos were fine, anon.

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>>50475747

>"The Basilisk war droid version presented in K2 was an intentional departure from the ones presented in Tales of the Jedi, and we are happy, because frankly, those look really stupid. This is much the same reason that many of the designs in K1 are a departure from the ship designs in TOJ, and with good reason. So yes, the Basilisk droid version was an intentional departure from the older models, and we take full responsibility. It is noteworthy that LucasArts and Lucasfilm agreed with our decision on the first pass, much as they agreed with the decisions made with K1's look."

KotOR a shit.

Unless the KotOR Comics decided to completely undue the bullshit that was the games, then in which case, thats cool.

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>>50475772
Other than the war droid (Which was really jsut a few parts of a wardroid built into a fighter, the comics had the classic ones) KotOR mandos were fine.

>>50475772
Quoth the Wook:
>Dustin Weaver, the artist for Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic: Flashpoint seems to have made an effort to reconcile the design variations, depicting Basilisks with both the body of the traditional mount-type droid and the wings and details of the Virago-like design from Knights of the Old Republic II.[12]

The artist tried to bridge the gap and explain Avellone's fuck-up in the comic series. IIRC, it was mostly the TOTJ chassis with a few minor gubbins from the Starviper abortion.

And yes, it's widely agreed that the KOTOR vidya artists are fucking morons and the KOTOR 2 Basilisk redesign was fucking moronic. The comic, however, was actually pretty good--better story than the games, more entertaining characters, better art.

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>>50475975

Then I have some comics to read.

The games are still shit though.

>>50453054
>>50452927

Actually, people always get that bit wrong. Noticing a thing is not analyzing a thing. The key part of sherlock's identity is that he sees the same things everyone else does but intuits far more from those facts than they can. People just conflate 'noticing' with 'analyzing' because unless you consciously unbifurcate those actions your brain only makes you 'notice' something when it thinks it has analyzed something important about it.

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>>50463343
Did actually giggle quite a bit through that, used to remind me of a small happy, carefree period of my life where a group of friends used to get together for computer gaming. Much to the horror of anyone listening in to the banter... think his wife used to refer to it as "Casual Racism, Bastardry and Swearing Sunday"

>>50471181
The multifarious problems of doing all this sounds like an engineering nightmare of epic proportions that will fly someone into a sun or some other kind of encounter with nil chance of survival.
Pretty much a standard Sienar product, well done.

>>50476516
I'll be honest, I think I can get it approved for prototype production purely to see what happens when the two pilots try to fly in opposite directions.

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>>50476559
We will call it 'Projekt Deathblossom'

>>50476425
Unless you have the form of ADD where your prioritizing function does work and you constantly 'notice' things no matter how unimportant they are.
Thank God for modern medicine

>>50476848

Well, the thing about Sherlock Holmes as presented is the best case for his existence is one or more cognition-modifying medical conditions. Especially in the various modern interpretations.

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As edgy as these guys may seem if you were to write out the description it's actually really cool looking.

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>>50477753

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>>50472472
Ok

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Alright guys.

Odds are good i'm going to be splitting off half this group I joined and GMing it. #ForeverGM

Party's on coruscant - made contact with a Duros young woman at the request of her father, helped save her during a Sabacc den shootout.

I've got a basic plot in mind, but I need some info from your premier starheads -

What is an Imperial Inquisitor, and are they what I think they are?

Is there any good resources on the moves the Rebel Alliance made directly after the Battle of Endor?

Where do I find out more about General Bel Iblis?

Is there a list of Rebel bases during various stages of the conflict, if not, what are some cool wild-worlds to have hidden rebel bases on them (notably - I want one equidistant between Hutt Space and Coruscant, ideally also near Tatooine)?

Assuming I am going to be making up my own rules for space combat because wow, are there any other particularly sticky parts of the rules (other than the huge focus that it seems to put on ultra-specialization) that I should be keeping in mind?

Is there a timeline for what ships were available when, fightercraft-wise? I don't know anything beyond the movies, so if there's some weird kind of tie fighter or something I could be using then that would help. Specifically looking for a souped-up fightercraft/light shuttle for a Sith to fly. Timeline is 4 months after the Battle for Endor and the Emperor's death.

>>50478518
Okay that sounds like you would want some WEG books like the Truce at Bamukura sourcebook, the Essential Atlas and Essential Guide to Warfare as a start.

For narative stuff Truce at Bakura, the Rogue Squadron comic (novels come later than that) and possibly the original Marvel comic even if it was low level canon within legends.

>>50478620
Well, THAT typo turned out very Star Wars.

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>>50478620

I'm less looking for 'read 500 star wars books and buy things from ebay' and more 'short explanations or links to wikis'. The lore doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to have roughly the right shape. I can putty in any gaps necessary, i'm a GM.

>>50479371
WEG sourcebooks. They're pretty good.

>>50478518
Inquisitors are basically dark force users trained by the empire to fight force sensitives. They can be turned Jedi or just other force users. Rebels did a great job of making them clueless idiots that posed zero threats and had their most powerful member did in the first season, so I'd go off EU sources like Jerec from Jedi Knight:Dark Forces 2.

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Aren't these coins cool?

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there should be a starfighter sabrejet, and starfighter mig-15

Hi is anyone looking for a plus one for their Star Wars game?
Been feeling like playing a SWRPG recently and roll20 has garbage choices at the moment, so figured you guys would be looking for people

>>50481141
What time zone?

>>50481023
Buy a kit, start adding gribblies.

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>>50481023
How about a starfighter Hunter?

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>>50482159
How about a starfighter Starfighter?

>>50482187
The stubby wings always get me

>>50481674
EST

>>50481674
bump

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>>50482187
Here's one i made in a earlier thread

>>50482201
They got more than a few pilots too, back in the late 50's/early 60's 'just yologofast, fuck turning' era
Sort of like a musclecar fighter.

>>50479371
In that case just hit up the Rogue Squadron comics and the maps for that year covering warlord territory.

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>>50482584
Nice
In the meantime i found an A-Wing

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>>50483110
Did somebody say A-wings?

>>50483311
That thing is gonna slip to the side and go on a flat spin at the first attempt to turn

>>50483330
Perfect for killing Star Destroyers.

>>50483362
They are gonna get called Boomerang-Wings

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>>50483391
So we market it to Mandalorians.

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>>50483110

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Anyone up for statting out the TIE SF prototype for FFG?

I'm running a game set in the Old Canon but with elements of NuCanon shoved in, with the FO being a splinter sect from the Imperial remnant.

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>>50483693
damn it's the TIE SF Concept, not SF Prototype. excuse me while i head over there and commit suduku with a vibrodagger

>>50483721
An Interceptor-esque hull would have been so much sexier than the cheap TIE/LN reskin we got.

>>50483796
yeah, I'm not exactly happy with that.
the TIE/fo being a reskin was fine and made sense. It was meant to be simple update to the existing TIE, and visually remind the audiance of the classic TIE. and in XWM it feels a lot like a TIE/LN to play.

The SF is a very different ship, so making it look so similar is annoying and lazy.

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>>50483796
Or this one

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>>50483857
>Guys, I have an idea
>Let's take the TIE/LN
>And rotate the wing panels ninety degrees
Fucking nuSienar.

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>>50483857
They just turned the panels 90° and added a slight bulge with guns

>>50476084
>doesn't have two arrows coming out of his speech bubble

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How come that in the SW universe there are incredibly complex and realistic looking cybernetic limbs and supersmart droids but not fully fledged human-like androids?

>>50484957
Because droids should not be treated like humans in SW lest we end up with ANDROID REVOLUTION: KILL THE FLESHIES

Droids are used as tools for the most part and require endless memory wipes to ensure they don't gain true sentience.

>>50484957
>fully fledged human-like androids
Nucanon writers haven't gotten around to it. Legends has you covered:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Human_replica_droid

Guri is one. PROXY also, if you count holograms.

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>>50484957
Except there are?

>>50485031

Right, like that one comic-Shadow Stalker, I think it was?

What's a Brawl Marauder to do when he needs more damage but there's not many good weapons for Brawl?

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>>50485093
Become the weapon.

>>50484957

A lot of things about the star wars setting, mysterious powers usable only by biological beings that make them and other biologicals super-strong, computers being simplistic or unused (star destroyers having actual _crews_, etc), the only high-ish-level artificial intelligences being physically placed in robot bodies and not exceeding human intelligence much, those robots being almost hilariously subservient, the internalized unspoken/thought about sneering disdain for droids, the fear of 'battle droids' out of proportion for their effectiveness (and the use of largely humanoid forms for said 'battle droids' instead of more effective droideka type machines)...

It all makes sense if you posit the Star Wars setting as being the survivor setting of an AI uprising. Way back, real sci fi tech was present and there was a massive war with AI - a massive war that created things like 'The Force', a massive upgrade to cognition and ability limited solely to biological life-forms, and spawned an almost instinctive distrust/hatred amongst the population of thinking machines, 'fighting droids', and robots - even known-to-be-subservient-to-a-fault ones. This led to a lower-tech but still spacefaring galaxy, with tech lost and limited by it all having to be stuff that could be built by simple automated factories (or actual biological workforces) and designed and repaired by hand. A remnant, perhaps, of a war the current 'races' (genegeneered humans who've forgotten they all share a common heritage) of the galaxy have likely forgotten.

That's my personal headcanon, anyway. Makes the star wars galaxy a bit grittier and hard-sci-fi than otherwise.

>>50485172
>there was a massive war with AI
We call it the Butlerian Jiha--er, the Clone Wars.

>>50485194

Even in the clone wars era, tech is hand-crafted/hand-designed - there's no AI, and computer systems are simple ones no more powerful than the ones we use today.

The battle droids in the clone wars were just as stupid (if not more stupid) than standard droids, and led by biological leaders/designed by biological designers (trade feds, later.. cyborgs?).

This would be a war a lot longer ago than that.

>>50485246
Grunt B1s are stupid, sure. They're grunts. They're meant to be retarded, cheap cannon fodder. Magnaguards, SBDs, and Droidekas are noticeably smarter. Officer droids like OOM-9 were pretty goddamn smart as well. If we go by Legends, OOM-9 was skilled enough to lead the conquest of multiple Naboo cities even before fucking up the Gungans on the plains. TCW also gave us commando droids which, IIRC, were perfectly capable of fucking up the clones, too. Droid starfighters were also fairly book-smart and dangerous. They just sucked at responding quickly to unpredictable improvisation.

>>50485172
It makes even more sense if you think of Star Wars as space fantasy, with space wizards, space dogfights, emperor's, princesses, knights, sword fights, etc

>>50485472

You do you bud, but i'm not comfortable just going 'lol space fantasy' - I need some kind of explanation that makes logic sense or I can't enjoy a fictional work.

>>50485358

Yes and people are flipping their lids many years later about 'the clone wars' even naming them 'the clone wars' rather than 'the droid wars' (which would seem more appropriate, but gives legitimacy to AI and droids), even while being seriously oppressed by an Empire and with a galactic rebellion/civil war going on they still seem to fear 'the clone wars' more.

I'm not saying this is the writers' explanation, at all. But it makes sense to me, which is the main thing (for me). It also makes sense that The Force is a crossdimensional superweapon developed with genetic or memetic access codes for biological beings only, as part of a massive technologically-ascendant humanity vs Hard AIs war that occurred in the 'pre-recorded-history' part of star wars' setting.

>>50485632
Anon, you're over thinking a child's story.

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>>50485632
>The Force is memes
Platinum Games pls remake The Force Unleashed

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>>50480853
That's a neat callback to 80s Kenner.

Just wish the new action figures didn't go back to 80s articulation too

>>50485031
There's also Synthdroids, which are Loronar's budget human replica droids but controlled from a central computer.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Synthdroid

Test

>>50485632
that's great for you, but just because you need to apply our realities rules to other realities doesn't mean that entire genres should be abandoned.

In star wars intellegence=personality. The only way to prevent droid uprisings is to give them stupid or subserviant personalities, and you keep them locked into seperate bodies because that's how intellegent personalities work.

That's a basic law of that universe, like that the force exists, has a light and dark side, hyperdrives are a thing, and something forces space combat to happen at knife fight range, and lasers are very slow.

Just the way nature works there.

>>50486040
and before you counter about fantasy not having logic, fantasy can have plenty of logic, it just follows from premises that are false in our reality and true in theirs.

Logic does not assume premises beyond it's own rules.

Some fantasy authors apply more logic to their fantasy working, Brandon Sanders being pretty high there, but others play more loose.

Inability to work from altnernate premises is a weakness in your ability to think logically, not a strength.

Looking at WEG stats, the Vic2 seems to lose a LOT of its turbolasers rather than just its missiles, does it really manage to maintain more ship to ship firepower with just the small boost of ion cannons?

>>50486124
Vic 1 is built for planetary bombardment
Vic 2 is built for knife-fighting other capital ships with Ion blasts

>>50485632
>It also makes sense that The Force is a crossdimensional superweapon developed with genetic or memetic access codes for biological beings only, as part of a massive technologically-ascendant humanity vs Hard AIs war that occurred in the 'pre-recorded-history' part of star wars' setting.
That's exponentially more retarded than saying "yes, actual mystic powers exist"

>>50480853
they shore are

>>50484957
There were at least one apocalyptic droid uprising in old Canon, plus the whole Katana Fleet debacle pretty much put the last nail in the coffin for A.I-heavy systems.

>>50486209
This.

Still better than midichlorians though.

>>50483436
>tfw you were in that /k/ thread

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>>50458181

Playing FFG Star Wars this weekend. What's a good build for a Solid Snake/Big Boss-esque character? Someone with a good mix of combat and stealth skills, maybe with a bit of survival and tactical knowledge on the side.

>>50486758
Any particular book?
First places to look will be Thief or Shadow. I'm not familiar with all AoR's options so I'll leave that one out.

>>50486758
So what is he gonna be?
A ex-imperial commando who had to kill his mentor/was left for dead?

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>>50486973
>The one who survives will inherit the title of Boss
KRAAAYT EATERRRR

>>50486758
Sounds like Trailblazer has your name on it for specs. Maybe also Infiltrator or Assassin.

>>50485093
Crafting. Make or order his own custom powerglove

>>50486477
I thought we all agreed those go into the category with odd numbered Star Trek movies, the second half of the final season of BSG, season 8 of Scrubs, and Greedo shooting first as THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

>>50487449
You forgot the Matrix sequels and Other M.

>>50486477
>midichlorians
You do realize midichlorians isn't what causes an individual to have force, just a measure of force sensitivity.

>>50487487
it's a big category.
I was going to include Dukat after Waltz, but then I realized that "Dukat died at the end of Waltz" is a slightly different category of "Things that absolutely happened, ignore everything to the contrary".

>>50487576
According to F&D it's not even a good measure.

>>50485093
Make your GM stat Mandalorian Crushgaunts.

>>50487614
True, yet remember that F&D, while trying to use as much canon material as possible, is not itself considered canon.

>>50487395
Where are the rules for commissioning custom gear anyway?

So, Right now FFG lists the U-wing and TIEStriker as "Now shipping", while the rest of the wave X is still "On the boat". It looks like they're rushing in the ships for the movie.

>>50487687
Well duh.

>>50487687
honestly never considered the U-wing and TIE striker as part of wave X.

The three wave X ships are clearly connected in design, all support ships, all add something new to their faction: illicits to rebels, tech to scum, the coordinate order.
All come with an upgrade that's not faction specific and opens up lots of new build ideas outside of the ship. EMP, Salvage Crane, the Upsilon techs.

The U-wing and TIE striker just got added to this wave because the movie happened to be coming out near it, and they like having all their ships as part of waves for whatever reason. If the wave or movie schedule was different they could have been in wave IX or XI, because they are not part of the wave design.

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Scum cone ships when?

>>50487956
>Every turn in the movement phase, roll a red die. On a hit or critical, the ship explodes and is removed from play.

>>50487956
It will be released in the same box as the scum Pinook

The "Flying on a Budget" box

>>50487935
The Tie Striker and U-Wing are like the T-70 and Tie/FO. They were added into the wave, and were probably done and ready for release just as soon as they were given the go-ahead. X just happened to be that Wave.

>>50487605
But if Dukat died in Waltz he doesn't get to call Kira and say he banged her mom.

>>50487449
Star Trek 3 was alright.

>>50480532
Jerec=legitimately terrifying

I once tried running an Inquisitor campaign. That was a trip.

>>50480532
Grinkie was legitimately a force to be reckoned with.

The three stooges were obviously still to young.

>>50478518
>>50480532
>>50488107
Yeah look up the Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2 cutscenes for Jerec chewing the scenery.

>>50485358
You've also gotta remember G0-T0 in Kotor II, who's the only Legends example I can think of of the classic "off the rails AI because paradox in their orders" story in Star Wars.

>>50488119
I shall be upset if that is the last we hear of Inquisitors.

>>50488026
Scum gets Pinooks and cone ships. Imps get a Sienar Skunkworks Build-a-TIE box. What should Rebels get? T-wings? M-wings? C-73 Trackers? A fix to E-wing generics?

>>50488166
I'm sure we'll get one or two more.

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>>50488107
>Inquisitor campaign
Anon you can't just say that without giving us the story

>>50488217
You know how anon described the tv show inquisitors as three stooges? They had nothing on my players. They did more harm to the empire than help.

>>50488217
Many things were blown up. With the force. And really big guns.

just got into my first game last week, and used a pre-gen
but now i feel like making something for myself, how would you make a guy who fires a mounted blaster from the hip?

>>50488217
So many kidnapped younglings...

>>50488342
>inb4 SS

>>50488393
They were toddlers Plus we were all men or droids

>>50488447
It's good to keep them away from the Mirilan.

>>50488249
>>50488267
Comeon guys, give us some detailed highlights at least!

>>50489047
The miraluka decided to break the system over his knee, the party instigated a massive prison riot that evolved into a prison break, a Grand Inquisitor was assassinated, countless storm troopers were terminated, and the GM learned a valuable lesson about the fickle nature of players, and the tendency of some to run away from the plot as quickly as they can.

>>50488119
Eh. He fought Kanan effectively like one time and pretty much none of his plans worked. Overall it would have worked much better if he was just one guy among many instead of actually their best man. Plus Filoni decided to give him a tragic/cryptic backstory then drop the fuck out of that plot thread completely and kill off all the other Inkies. Guess writing conclusions is too hard.

Are Firebrand and Jackpot good names for clones? I'm working on NPCs right now

>>50489815
Like Jackpot, Firebrand not so much.
Hothead or Bullrush might be better.

>>50488174
Alliance Uglies. The Deathseeds at least

>>50490025
I wanted to avoid Hothead since that seemed too on the noise, but Bullrush is good.

Also, you get one guess what Jackpot's CT number is.

>>50490048
CT-777?

>>50490080
Yep!

>>50474370
Thanks!

Any more info?

>>50490048
I get hothead being to on the nose, but Firebrand seemed too sophisticated. I mean there is Dogma, but most of the names were simpler or rougher, Bullrush, or just Bull fits that feel better for me.

>>50485036
>be kid
>like reading
>Star Wars books are parent-approved
>android sex
whenever I peer into the web of memories which make up the story of my childhood, I seem to always find more explanations for my fetishes.

>>50485172
>It all makes sense if you posit the Star Wars setting as being the survivor setting of an AI uprising.

You don't know a lot about the EU, do you

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Droid_Revolution

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Krayt dragon variants!

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>>50491579
Well the Canyon one looks like he'd be friendly, lets go pick him up and see what happens!

>>50458181
Can anyone tell me how the hell the Hutts got so powerful and then tell me how they keep that power ?

They'll fat worms how the hell did they even get off their planet in the first place?

>>50492000
Out of universe: Jabba was powerful, so all Hutts must be powerful criminals.

In-universe: Don't know about nucanon. In Legends, they're naturally highly intelligent, paranoid, manipulative, business-savvy, and patient. They have a healing factor, long natural lifespan, high resistance to Jedi mind voodoo, and a complete lack of moral compass. Hutts also tend to skilled at networking and avoiding danger. They're known for making heavy use of proxies, decoys, and minions to avoid having to make direct contact. IIRC, Hutt culture also causes the Hutts to close ranks when threatened by an outsider.

It's also cost-effective to keep the Hutts in charge of crime. They keep it orderly. Eliminating the Hutts means a power vacuum, chaos, and a whole lot more dead bodies. It's also probably a lot easier to predict the actions of the Hutts (one homogeneous species and culture) than the actions of countless smaller criminal organizations and kingpins.

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>>50488174
>What should Rebels get? T-wings? M-wings? C-73 Trackers? A fix to E-wing generics?

V-19s and Z-95s. The T-wing is probably not crazy in terms of price but alot of rebellion reserves or "budget forces" are more likely to use all the clone wars surplus lying around than something advanced enough to alteast attempt to replace the A-wing

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Tuk'ata

Because panther dogs with scorpion tails on their head are great.

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I am trying to tremember, was there a fried sketto stand in the bestiary book?

>>50493228
Aren't they force-sensitive, like Vornskrs?
Except in this case being exposed so heavily to the dark side just makes them more savage, while Vornskrs use it to hunt?

>>50493243
Something like that, and they never look the same way twice.

>>50471271
I love the YT crane idea. Would it be cheaper than tractor beams?

We need some concept art.

>>50488156
IG-88's story on Tales of the Bounty Hunters

>>50490753
I agree, and it also breaks the rule of names being one or two syllables. Nah, I like Bullrush better. Also, if any of y'all have been in the military, what are some really unusual hobbies that fellow soldiers have had? I wanted to give the taciturn clone commander a totally unexpected one.

>>50493862
I was originally thinking of sewing, for reference, but I'm open to other ideas.

>>50458181
Sorry to bring up Aftermath, but I can't remember without digging into the book. The protagonist (or someone) was gay right? And there was a lesbian evil Imperial? I honestly can't recall or maybe I'm thinking the wrong books.

>>50493862
Writing poetry used to be a pretty common hobby amongst soldiers on medical leave back in WWI.

>>50494178
Sinjir, the former Imperial torturer was gay.

Moff Delian Mors, from Lords of the Sith, the governor of the Ryloth system, was a lesbian.

Kreia did nothing wrong.

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>>50493862
>Trench art out of random weird shit they find laying around
>MTG card games, fucking sickos
>Practising tattooing each other, don't recommend that one, no matter how good it sounds at the time
>Learning obscure, shitty languages
>Lot of drawing, if the local kids didn't nick my biros the enlisted would
>Fabricating weird shit out of wood and scrap metal to fulfil 1 simple function that wouldn't be found anywhere in the normal world.. sort of advanced trench art
>Misappropriating/trading your kit for something terrible, usually with other terrible, like minded people
>Trading MRE's and weird shit the enemy had on them with people from other countries
>Stealing shit from neighbouring units, painting/defacing it and then returning it for fun and amusement

Though for the first time in my life I've also found a use for baby wipes, on an actual baby, who'd have thought that shit.

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>>50493862
Making webcomics, drawing penises on things, throwing rocks at things, planning out the most efficient routes for acquiring free Veteran's Day meal deals, breaking out into song at the drop of a hat. Generation Kill and Terminal Lance are great reference sources for the grunt life. If you want to get intellectual, General Mattis of the USMC also liked giving away books from his massive personal library to the rank and file, IIRC.

>>50493862
By conscript tradition, at every camp site of every exercise somebody will grab a bit of firewood and carve a crappy wooden dildo out of it.

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Can anyone who owns "Forged In Battle" (real or pdf), kindly give me a picture of the Soldier Duties table?

>>50495591
Drawing seems like a good one. And I can also imagine him turning into a tatoo artists as time goes on. Yes, this will do.

>>50487649
Commissioning would be up to your gm I believe, or between yourself and another player. I haven't been in a single game which didn't have one Mechanics heavy character even before crafting rules, so I had assuming talk to them.
For actual crafting rules themselves, armour is in keeping the peace, lightsabers are in endless vigil, and everything else is in special modifications

>>50497834
Is there anything I should try to make sure it has in particular? Stun, Defensive, whatever? It seems that aside from the random effects you get while making it, there's not much you can do with weapon crafting.

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>>50486270

>>50497834
>everything else is in special modifications
I don't think there's one for ship attachments yet. Mostly because it's a completely different scale, but it would still be nice.

>>50497946
It's not exactly totally random, it's random how many things you can buy, but you get to pick whatever you want from the table.

>>50498071
Yeah, but once the weapon's done, it's done, right? It's kinda like gambling, if you get too overconfident, you might fuck it all up.

>>50495721
Mad Dog Mattis has been announced as Trump's SecDef pick. Good choice, better man.

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>>50498135
>Mad Dog Mattis

>>50458181
Can someone explain to me how hutts come to power all the time?
They have little to no physical ability, no mind control, no tech of their own and are known to dick you over, so how does it happen?

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>>50498261

Theyre the bully mastermind that leads a crowd of lesser, tougher, but dumber bullies.

Specifically, Hutts hold in thrall a number of species with nowhere near Hutt intelligence, but plenty of strength, notably the Ganks, Nikto, and Weequay.

>>50498261
>little to no physical ability
Swole the Hutt would like to disagree with you. Hutts are cunning, have a healing factor, are though as nails, and basically won the galactic slave race lottery.

>>50498261
They had quite advanced technology, so they annexed their neighbours and have had them under fealty for about the last 20,000 odd years. So, if you have a whole planets worth of stinky Klatooinians or Weequay as 'problem solvers', you can afford to sit down, get fat and let other people do the fighting for you.

>>50498261
Essentially waaaaaaay back when Hutts were warlike badasses who then enslaved or hired a bunch of less intelligent Warlike Badass species to do a great deal of fighting for them.

They were really far ahead on the tech track and managed to coast on that comfortable lead for a while.

>>50498261
Being lazy and bloated is a status symbol. Hutts that haven't let themselves go because they've earned it can be right bastards in a scrap.

>>50498439
Even the incredibly bulky ones can be pretty damn scary.

>>50498483

Didn't Jabba swallow some woman who was keeping him prisoner whole when she leaned in too close?

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>>50497148
Sorry the camera is shitty

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>>50498610

Thank you much Anon - its considerably more legible then the shitty Savage Spirit pdf

You lads going to watch this?
https://twitter.com/i/live/798701411626139648
Starts in 4 minutes.

>>50471271
>>50493475

I think there are rules both for legs and for load-lifting arms. Don't know about the SIL requirements on the arm.

>>50498701
Sadly I missed it and it may also not have been live as advertised.

>>50490821
Wait, which books had guri sex?

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>>50502484
Pretty sure he's talking about Shadows of the Empire. There's a section in there which mentions that Guri is "fully functional" and that Xizor uses it sometimes.

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Tips for running FFG Star Wars, /swg/? I'm continuing to learn the system as I gear up for my campaign and it's kind of overwhelming

>>50502975
I should mention that I've already got the starfighter combat houserules.

>>50502975
One you get the hang of the system, it becomes super easy.

Make sure to use minions. Boss fights should have minions.

>>50502975
Once you get familiar with the system, it makes it very easy to roll with it.

I had a party roll so well on forging documents that it actually established a legitimate charity as a front company. complete with offices and a staff that they never ever visited.

Also, letting a wookiee fight a trandoshan with vibroaxes is a hilarious game of rocket tag.

>>50503063
>Once you get the hang of the system, it becomes super easy
That's what I was hoping to hear. The basic principle of the dice seems easy enough.

>>50502975
run a practice session where you and you players just roll dice for various checks and learn to interpret the dice and how to use advantages. Or listen to a podcast of gameplay

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Just watched the Tutorial for Star Wars Destiny, it seems like a pretty cool game, has anyone tried it? Anyone got an opinion on it?

>>50503543
This. I'm pretty interested as well

>>50503235
Once you start getting a comfortable grip with dice results and have good imagination, you can come up with so many interesting situations. Much more fun than just "you succeed, proceed".

>>50503543
I've enjoyed it. Personally, I think heroes are a little strong, although it might just be my lack of experience or resources.

>>50504348
Strong in what way? Better abilities, or better dice, or something else?

>>50504369
It felt like they were more obviously powerful, while villains needed to use tricks and disruption to compete, again, I could just be missing the right cards to make villains work.

>>50504576
>>50504369

I've heard that out of the starter decks, with the way points are arranged, people tend to play Rey with 2 dice and Kylo with 1, so the villain deck tends to be a bit weaker as a result.

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This is so close to a perfect upscale to the KotOR blaster rifle,. but it messes up the scope and carry handle and some of the barrel and back sessions.

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>>50505670
Oh god, this is PERFECT.

>>50505733
>>50505670
Are these from the Apeiron HD remaster project?

>>50505763
Seems standalone.

http://www.nexusmods.com/kotor/mods/104/?

>>50504348
>>50504369
The Villain Starter requires more micro-management than the Rey Starter. For new and inexperienced players, it's harder to manage Kylo Ren than it is for the same player to manage Rey. Once you've got a few games under your belt, they become more even. If you're going to pick up Villain my advice to you is to always have one resource in reserve - Villain dice tend to need resources to trigger, while Hero dice tend to need other Hero dice. It's easier mid-turn to roll up a second result for your modifier than it is to produce a new resource, which makes Kylo seem less powerful. Once you master that, the Kylo Starter is almost the better one.

>>50497153
I'd also recommend whittling. who the hell would whittle in the future?

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>>50506040
>in the future

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So apparently according to EAfront Krennic's blaster is actually a supercharged six-shooter.

>>50506247
God DAMN that's pretty

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>>50506247
We need more of that

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>>50506317
That's not his blaster sadly, his is hideous.

>>50506460
It could be worse. It could be a Hi-Point.

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Is this Firespray mutant canon? Are there any otherships like the Firespray?

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>>50506460
It's just the receiver and grip of an MP40 tho

It's no less ugly than this desu

>>50506529
I gotta disagree, the weird wooden planks stapled to the side of the grip are hideous and look incredibly uncomfortable.

>>50506460
>>50506472
>>50506529
>>50506576
Also apparently Jyn's space Luger can plug into the rear of a rifle housing that can be used to snipe or to assault. It seems like a silly gimmick as far as EAfront goes.

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>>50506836
Like one of these or did the Rogue One prop team seriously crib an idea from the worst Final Fantasy?

>>50506900
Either the worst Final Fantasy or the best Resident Evil.

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>>50506900
Not sure it ever happens in the movie, it's just been confirmed for Battlefront.

It seems to work like the Commando DC-17 just not PAINFULLY SLOW.

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>>50506989
>>50507024

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>>50506836
>>50506900
>>50506974
>>50506989
>>50507024
>>50507035
Toy actually gives a decent view of the sniper mode in shitty plastic.

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>>50507054
How would it even work mechanically in-universe? Does it still fire pistol-power bolts?

>>50507054
Looks like Czerka Arms garbage