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FUCKING BUYOUTS edition

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>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>CARD SEARCHING

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://www.magiccards.info
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What got bought out, OP?
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>>50439363
Arcum, but I think it's just a matter of people actually wanting a copy for Breya and not price manipulation
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i cannot into Breya
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>Arcum is now $15
>meanwhile best artificer remains dirt cheap

Feels good playing mono-red artifacts
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>>50439385
Really? Because it's still at like 2€ on magiccardmarket.
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Alright, Xenagod Beast Tribal here one last time. I'm looking for someone I can test the deck with. Anyone up for a quick game on Xmage or Cockatrice? I can post a link for Spectators or upload the Replays if anyone else is interested in the match.

Looking to go up against something non-Blue/Permission, as it is an RG deck with little in the way of counters.
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Xth for Kozilek the great distortion is my favorite deck and I hope they print more powerful lands like the recent sanitarium and inventors fair.
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>>50439418
Maybe EU prices weren't affected. Arcum is hovering around $14-15 on TCGPlayer right now though
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/breya-grave-combos/

Alright boys, i've added a bunch of stuff in the maybeboard. help me hone this deck.
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>>50439421
Here's the deck as well. May need heavy tweaking.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/beast-revels/
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>>50439463
list? I'm building one too
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>>50437845
The trick is to mill a few at a time if you want zombie tokens. Phenax is only around 3, and can target yourself. If you can give them haste, maybe with the lightning greaves, thousand-year elixir, or coridant crossroads, then you got a good engine going.

Sultai ascendency and as many dredge cards as you can fit work wonders.

Extractor demon is ok, he mills you when ever something dies and can unearth

Nix Weaver and splinter fright are also pretty reliable, splinter fright getting bigger as the game goes

Jarad's orders let's you get a zombie token from the Entomb half, which is just icing on the cake since it tutors a creature to hand also

Dread summons and Lilliana's indignation are good, since they either get you a bunch more zombies or make a player loose a handful of life if you have the mana

To go big or go home, I recommend Mirror-Mad Phantasm. He is 65 cents and I have used him to easily mill dozens of cards in a turn. I once milled out and won on Laboratory Maniac on turn 6 with this bastard

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dreadful-dredge/
You can cut down some of this of you want and idea. I might throw a few more counters in it to protect the combo
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>>50439557
>nothing to grope
>nowhere to stick it
>get poked by sharp metal when spooning

how can this be the new /edh/ waifu

baka
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>>50439892
>can't touch her
>always want what you cant have
>wouldn't be able to touch her if she was flesh anyways
>can't be fucked therefore she is perfect maiden
>perfect for socially awkward virgins

how did it take them this long to print the perfect waifu bait.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/24-11-16-thunderdome/

Could I get some input on this list? It's mono red with Krazuul at the helm. I'm going for a punishment theme and forcing combat. My group is too slow and I'm trying to speed them up.
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>>50439417
>Arcum is now $15
Welcome to MTG kiddies. Hope you're wallets are ready for the sodomy.
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>>50439892
>not wanting to rub your dick all over her etherium body
no, you're the weirdo. Look at that beautiful cold metal.
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Does anyone have the Ultra Pro Satin Tower? I need to know whether it can fit a few tokens alongside a double-sleeved deck.

Also, what's the best deckbox for EDH? Hardmore: except Ultimate Guard Flip'n'Tray
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>>50440049
>not wanting to rather fondle Atraxa's huge, supple wings
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>>50440084
What the fuck, is that quadruple-sleeved or something?
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>>50440157
>Atraxa
>no red
Sorry, I like my women with a little fire.
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>>50440084
If I played a dude and his deck looked like that I would chuckle quietly every time he drew a card
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>>50440172
And what would you cut for that red? WitchMaw best 4color.
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>sen triplets is 14€ each

Are they really that popular or..?
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>>50440221
they get you hated out of the game before they resolve
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>>50440084
Are each of those in a top loader?

Why?

I can understand double sleeving, I have my foiled out Merieke deck double sleeved. But also in top loaders? What do you have that is so important?
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Are there any Duel Commander players here? A couple guys at my LGS are thinking of making decks/bringing a few cards to swap into their EDH decks for 1v1. I'm thinking of making Vial Smasher//Kraum because Vial Smasher is actually fucking retarded and Kraum 1) gives me blue, and 2) is a beatstick. Vial Smasher honestly feels broken on paper. Turn 3 cast her, pass, Force of Will something, deal 5, untap draw, cast Gurmag Angler, swing, opponent is on 6, Bolt, pass, hold up Countersquall. Seems stupid.
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>>50440244
Hell if I know. I just googled toploader edh. Seems like someone was trying to be edgy, but I would love to play pic related against them.
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>>50440239
Well, I like them still. Mainly because I have a huge boner for Alara in general.
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Does anyone else have to assert dominance over their Gruul decks?

I swear to god I have to throw my deck before I play it or it will only give me my dorks. Throw it in a direction, and it works fine. Gotta let those cards go everywhere.
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>>50440244
A Mind Sculptor and whatever else he ordered using his parent's money to net-deck, then because he doesn't want anyone to know he has those, so the logical conclusion is to spend even more money making all the cards look like they're all of the same value.
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>>50440287
The thing I love about Alara is the culture shock of the Shards merging after the Conflux depicted on cards in Alara Reborn (and to some extent on new cards like Breya).
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>>50440287
i have a foil, i'm not a hater

but for some reason people think you're skittles and kill you first
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>>50440283
>R, T:
because just R would be busted, right? Or did they just not want people to be dicks about it
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>>50440509
Because then I would activate it as many times as I could every turn and I owuld quickly lose all friends.
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Is it just me, or are all the new Partners kinda boring?

also, kydele has no bra
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>>50440699
Are her eyes fingernail polish? She did that thing where a girl paints her ring finger different, and that's her eyes?
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I Miracle a Bonfire of the Damned for X=5. What is its CMC on the stack?
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>>50440744
>>50440699
Also, looking at Kydele, Atraxa and Yidris, does C16 have a four-arms subtheme?
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>>50440785
>people still asking the cmc of x spells
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>>50440699
Well, yeah. Would you wear a bra in a dress like that?
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>>50440836
My point was that you could actually see her nipples.

How many MtG cards are there with visible nipples?

>>50440785
11
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>>50440244
Four of each power 9, some goyfs, and a shitload of Orinthopters and Mudholes.
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>>50440858
I can't see them at all. Where are you looking for these nipples?
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>>50440858
Tariel
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>>50440886
The dress is a little see-through.

>>50440221
The effect is pretty unique. Timmies like that.
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>>50440785
26
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>>50440858
You can? I can't. Probably should be able to in a white dress that looks like it's made of layered sheer, but it seems to be completely opaque in the chest area.
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>>50440785
1
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>>50440947
I can see one of em maybe but definitely not both
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>>50440084
I have many,they are my favorite kinda box. Yeah, they fit 100 double sleeved cards well, although at first due to air bubbles in a freshly double sleeved deck, it will be tight. The air bubbles go away after a few matches of play, and some time in the box, though. (I use kmc perfect fit and dragon shields for sleeves)

If you want a close up picture or anything, feel free to ask
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>>50439557
Drop some stuff for illusionists bracers, most things cannot survive getting -8-8 and you dont need a removable creature to do it. You're missing mycoynth lattice it makes the infinate combos that breya has work better.
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Have you ever gotten to a point where everyone just said "screw this game"?

When playing my Zedruu deck, I had Confusion in the Ranks out, and my opponent had Bitterblossom and Ophiomancer. Tokens and the Ophiomancer, along with everything else, got passed around like crazy for a few turns. Then my opponent activated Homeward Path and silence hit us as we all realized nobody noted who actually owns which token.

Luckily, someone played a Wrath at that point.
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>>50441003
Goddamn bruh, I'm just getting back into Magic after about two decades away and I'm mirin the fuck outta that box.
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>>50441003
Thanks. I am also using KMC fits + Dragon Shields.

Can you check how many extra single or double sleeved cards can you fit in alongside the deck itself? Or is it a super-tight fit?
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>>50440084

If my opponent was eating the fuckin Jonah Hill special like in that picture I'd have my deck quad sleeved too.
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I'm looking for suggestions.

This is my current Kami of the Crescent Moon. It's not finished, and I don't know if I should go full stax or go grouphug with a combo finish like a X spell with infinite mana.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kami-of-the-crescent-hand-size/

I'm trying to make my Sharuum deck as optimized as possible. Besides the obvious staples that are missing, such as FoW, tutors, and more fetches, what would you change in the deck? I think it currently lacks raw card advantage, and my foil Necropotence would fit in the deck once again
Decklist: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/praise-sharuum/
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>>50441003
>>50440084

>I need to know whether it can fit a few tokens alongside a double-sleeved deck.

Oh, and as far as tokens go, 10 fit fine, 15 (pictured) is fine, 20 is tight,but manageable I think.

Hope I helped!

>>50441049

Thanks man! It looks great in the light

>>50441067
Yeah, In this pic theyre obviously not sleeved, but as far as sleeved tokens go, let me check
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>>50440699
That art is fucking terrific. This shows why CGI can never hold a candle to paint.
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>>50440699
>>50441127

It is beautiful.
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need some suggestions for my weeb deck

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-11-16-way-of-the-warrior/
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>>50440911
>Tariel
Damn son. They don't make them like that anymore. Literally.
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>>50441084
Just traded a fuck ton of jank for this.

No idea how to build her thats not "Sharuum except not Sharuum".

Can I just run steal shit and call it a day?
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>>50441106
>>50441067

10 single sleeved tokens (pictured) is a tight fit. 15 I wouldn't try. Red sleeves in pic are tokens.

Deck is double sleeved kmc/dragon shield, box is ultra pro satin tower.
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>>50441153
I don't see nipples there either.
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>>50441225
Excellent, thanks.

I'll probably go with 5 double-sleeved tokens, which should be very doable.
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>>50441153
I'm not the only one who thinks her legs look way small

... right?
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>>50441212
Wraths and Counterspells. Make it a disgusting control deck.
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>>50441250
Don't forget they may not fit at first, those air bubbles make it pretty tough. I think 5 double sleeved tokens would fit fine though after the bubbles are pushed out

No problem
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>>50441212
Sure! Blue to steal stuff on the battlefield, Black to steal shit from the graveyard, UB for hands and libraries, with white have a few steal spells too and covering everything between.
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>>50441235
Left breast.
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>>50441281
I need a good Control deck anyway. >>50441285
I have a Bribery laying around.

What if Esper Reanimator, though? I want to fuck people over with Jin-Gitaxias even if he defeats the purpose of hand stealing.
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Liliana doesn't wear bra under skimpy top. I know for fact because I squeezed the leftest boobmeat of one of ladies cosplaying as her at Comic Con and run away.
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>play gitrog
>learn about zuran orb
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>>50441418
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>>50441153
Is this the edgiest art on a Magic card?
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>>50441153
>those fake tits
Wayne Reynolds was a mistake.
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>>50441250
>double-sleeved tokens

y tho
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>>50441558

Not him but I do it so they feel the same as my other cards. Probably due to autism after realizing what I just typed.
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>>50441558
Why not? Tokens are notoriously prone to damage. I want my cards to stay pretty. It also makes them beerproof.
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>>50441558
Vampie tokens outta Innistrad are like $4 a piece, I'm not letting those get rekt by cheeto fingers.
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What the fuck

Why is this so expensive


I might still have all cards from mine in pretty good condition, maybe I should try and sell it
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>>50441106
>not double-sleeving your tokens
What kind of barbarian are you?
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>>50441588
>beerproof
Oh god. I have a rule at my house where no ones allowed to have drinks on the same table as the card/board games.

There have been too many 'incidents'.

Pic unrelated.
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>>50441708
>Why is this so expensive
Because Kaalia and massively underprinted
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>>50441708
When it comes to OOP products, "Factory sealed" is completely different to "have all cards in pretty good condition".
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>>50441708
Because Kaalia alone is a $30 card. Also because WOTC doesn't print enough cards to keep the prices of shit from going through the roof.

They don't wanna reprint too much, the jew investors might get angry.
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>>50441789
>They don't wanna reprint too much, the jew investors might get angry.
See also: the OP.

Poor Arcum Dagsson.
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>>50441787

I know, but the cheapest one in mkm is still around 120€, opened. I mean, worst case scenario I keep it and put the good things in other decks
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>>50441708
The decks are expensive because it's so fucking hard to get them sealed. You could probably save money by building them from singles.

I recently took apart my Zedruu precon and sold the expensive cards for a nice amount of store credit, and I still have some decent cards left.

Note that the Kaalia deck will get reprinted next year in the Commander Anthology. With the M15 frame.
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https://youtu.be/xyZ8nl3dg7c?t=5m13s

>MTG cards shitty cosplay contest

>That Doran

Amazing
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>>50441037
Yes I run a Niv Mizzet UR Chaos deck and ramped turn 3 into a possibility storm then next turn possibilitied into a thieves auction everyone scooped in response.
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>>50441212
>responding to my post to ask for suggestions to your deck
>doesn't even try to help me

That's pretty rude.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-11-16-edh-enchantress/

I like the dual commanders. Since enchantress has no good commander and there's a finite amount of enchantresses period, i've been enjoying Ravos as a stabilizer while Kydele ramps so incredibly hard with Seraph's sanctum it's crazy.
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>>50442028

holy shit
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>>50442070

My personal favorite
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>>50442105
top kek
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So I want to do Naya werewolves, using white for control and to keep people from flipping my doggos back over.
Any suggestions for commander?
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>>50442451

Go Jund, you will need the reanimation spells.
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>>50441084
>>50441212
Ouch. No idea how that happened. My b. What I get for making the post on a phone.

Now that you got my attention:

>Kami
Looks fine to me. I never seen a Kami Stax list but I would assume it would run similar to a GW Selvala Stax deck.
Personal opinion but I'm not impressed about Mimic Vat in a deck that has rely on the other players to kill off creatures when your deck can hardly do so. In its place, you could always go for a haymaker spell. I noticed Mind over Matter isnt in the list, and it goes well with your Temple Bell. You might have to slot in an Eldrazi Titan v.1 or Elixer of Immortality or even Reminisce to prevent decking yourself.

>Sharuum
Looks solid. Phyrexian Arena is never a bad include. Vamp Tutor if you find one. Would Marionette Master work as back up or would it be a redundant slot?
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>>50440509
Because then you could call judge and ask to shortcut the rest of the shuffles, since there's no demonstrable state change
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>>50442606
No, no, you see, I would activate it only once, then wait for you to shuffle, and then I would activate again! Isn't that neat?
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>>50441037

This combo just got my sen triplets boner hard as fuck
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>>50442530
So someone like Sek'kaur?
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>>50442451
Or you could run Rurik Thar, and punish people for casting spells

Make sure to be really creature heavy though
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>>50442451

bear man, meet wolf man
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>>50440509

Imagine you had future sight or oracle of murrrr durrr

Just shuffle until you like your top deck, over and over, it would be borderline OP but mainly just a really slow and unfortunate mechanic
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>>50442579
Master is simply too slow for the combos. I had Disciple of the Vault before I found my Bitter Ordeal.
I want to add Vamp and Demonic tutor to it, but I have to buy some stuff first. Grim Monolith would be neat too. I just feel like I run out of things to do pretty often, and I have a bunch of mana just sitting there, doing nothing.

You're right about Kami, and the stax version is basically those artifacts + Stasis + Uba Mask. Thanks for the suggestion, Mind Over Matter would be great. What exactly is a haymaker spell?

Sen Triplets has lots of potential. You can steal shit, be political, control the shit out of their game, go combo, since one of the players wouldn't be able to respond. Whatever you do, make sure to run Chromatic Lantern and Forbidden Orchard. Something to deny their resources would be good too, this way you can keep their hands full.
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>>50442758

And now that I'm thinking about temur, what happens if you manifest a double-sided card?
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>>50442801
Nothing special. It will be a normal manifested 2/2.
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>>50441789
They make zero money from investors tho or do they?
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>>50440272
Ok twice on a row it can't be just coincidence, is that you Beisso?
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>>50442028
>See QT girl on here
>Decide to stalk her because if she likes Magic she's pretty much my gf
>Her Vine is full of videos of Chads and Magnum condoms and normie bullshit

OH, MY ORANGE JUICE IS BOILING RIGHT NOW!
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>>50440272
>>50440699
Kydele doesn't underperform if you're making a sensible deck for her
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>>50442925
I know this isn't serious, but my social media is nothing but normalfag stuff too.

I keep that away from public
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>new set comes out
>have to order all the newer versions of cards that I already have in my deck
People with OCD shouldn't play TCGs
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>>50443038
Usually the OCD goes the other way around, people who refuse to play anything but the older version.

I just always play the foil version, and no shit FTV foils. Not cheap at all.
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>>50443038

My autism only extends to card condition. Spill a drink on my deck and everybody is getting orange juiced up in this bitch.
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>>50443059
>I just always play the foil version, and no shit FTV foils. Not cheap at all.
I always prioritize the latest printing in the M15 border (incl. FTV - they are distinct but not that bad in my experience). For basics, I prefer the BFZ full arts, and all basics of one type have to have the same picture.

For stuff like Humble Defector that got reprinted in C16 - I keep my older foil version. Unless the latest foil printing was in an older frame. Then I go for the latest nonfoil version.

I can't afford expeditions or masterpieces, so I exclude them from my priority lists.
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>>50442869
Its complicated. There has to be perceived value in their products in order for them to sell, otherwise MTG turns into force of will (the game, not the card).

If they reprinted everything into oblivion there would be little interest in new sets, products and so on.
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All right, /edhg/.

I just got my new Planechase Anthology dropped off today and I'm super hype.

But then I realized, the plane cards themselves damage easily. Do you have a preference for sleeves for your giant cards? I'm getting mixed reviews from google.
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What is your favourite deck, /tg/? I'm interested to see if there are a lot of duplicates, or if people have their own special snowflake that makes them happy.
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>>50443603
I'm in the same situation. I ended up ordering

http://www.ultimateguard.com/en/card-protection/supreme-sleeves/original-oversized.html

http://www.ultimateguard.com/en/card-protection/precise-fit-sleeves/oversized-original.html

They should protect the cards pretty well. Now I just need a good deckbox that will fit them all double-sleeved. Shame that the original box is too small, it's pretty.

>>50443626
Zedruu player since 2012 and til the end of time.
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>>50443603
To add to my post >>50443660

I've used the black oversized Ultra Pro sleeves in the past and found them really mediocre quality-wise, also the sideways opening is unpractical when it comes to shuffling and detrimental to actual protection.

That's why I'm going for the perfect-fits and Ultimate Guards.
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>>50442766
neither of those cards existed when that card was printed, and as far as I'm aware there weren't any effects that made you leave the top card of your library revealed. And I have to doubt how OP that would really be considering that this is a game in which tutors exist.
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>>50443626
oviya pashiri tokens deck
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>>50443836
How does it feel to play a filthy old muff muncher?
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>>50439421
>>50439585
if you're looking for someone, drop me a message on steam

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Manmies

everyone else pls dont cyberpully me
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>>50443836
Is it actually better than something like Rhys, or is it just sentiment?
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>>50442925
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>>50443878
Holy shit I just looked up her backstory and she is a legit dyke. That's fuckin awesome, a woman after my own heart.
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>>50443626
Omnath, Locus of Mana. First deck best deck.
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>>50443660
>>50443746

Danke, friend.
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>>50443626
I have a lot of favorites, but Wort is maximum bullshit fun for me. So many routes you can take to a win
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>hate running creatures, love doing anything with noncreature spells or going full wizardmode and shitting out instants and sorceries
>current meta is Timmy City and just assloads of creatures
>get my shit kicked in before I can pull off my bullshit

HELP

Who should I build to help combat this menace I face?
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>>50444107

Just stop being bad

You don't need a special commander to not lose to Timmy decks, just build your decks better

I don't really understand your mindset
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>>50444107
Have you tried becoming a better Magic the Gathering player, thereby getting good?
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>>50444107
maybe play the politics game with cheap bounces and stuff? "don't attack me or i'll bounce your 7 mana dragon and set you back a turn"

maybe with like mizzix or something
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>>50441020
i've thought about bracers, but considering how much i want to bounce breya, that's a lot of mana dedicated to equipping constantly. I'd prefer a rings of brighthearth, to be honest. What combos gets better with lattice?
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>>50444107
Sounds like you need more pillowfort.

http://combodeck.net/Query/creatures_can't_attack_you_unless_their_controller_pays_controls
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>Cards that should be legendary
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>>50444107

MONO B

KILLSPELLS.DEC

FEATURING GETH OR OTHER MURDER GENERALS

That's how I dealt with a creature heavy meta. Just fuckin' murder everything. No combo just everything being fuckin' dead.
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>>50444195

But then you couldnt clone it
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>>50442801
"face down" isn't literal. there can be as many "faces" to a card as there needs to be. Think of it more like a "form". A double sided card has two forms. If you manifest a double sided card, or flip it face down with Ixidron, it merely gains a third form. The physical limitations of the playing cards shouldn't be confused with the mechanics of the game with which they're played.
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>>50444209
just make sure you mainly use spot removal and not grave pact effects. i've made "kill all creatures.dek" once in a creature heavy meta and it legitimately gave everyone the feelbads. it's better to go with a ton of spot removal and stuff like that so that you don't fuck over everybody, just the person who is fucking you over
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>>50444245

>if you stop going easy on your opponents, you'll hurt their fee-fees

It's like you don't want metas to ever evolve
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>>50444274
well you'll also be archenemy and everyone will fuck you up from turn 1 once they know that your deck will collaterally kill their shit even if it doesn't want to

group slug decks aren't that great in casual metas where feelings still matter
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>>50444274

I hope you find a group soon, anon.
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>>50443906
rhys is for tryhards, thats why
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>>50444195
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>>50444237
Your post is kinda confusing. "Face-down" is very literal. Every card on the battlefield has a face. A double-faced card has two faces.

A double-faced card can't be turned face-down by any effect, because they don't have a "face-down position". However you turn them, they are always one face up.

However, the top card of your library is not a "double-faced card", cards in libraries don't have "faces", therefore you can manifest any card from the top of your library and put it on the battlefield "face down" with no problems. If that turns out to be a werewolf or a sorcery, it doesn't matter.
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>>50444332
>>50444195
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>>50444338
A slight clarification:

>401.2. Each library must be kept in a single face-down pile. Players can't look at or change the order of cards in a library

Double-faced cards can be in your library "face-down", and they can be on your battlefield manifested "face-down" in the same way.
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>>50440244
An entire deck may be a bit much, but I keep all my werewolves in toploaders and sleeve the checklists. That way I can fish them out of my box as needed and flip them back and forth easily.
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>>50444338
>711.9. If an effect allows a player to cast a double-faced card as a face-down creature spell, or if a double-faced card enters the battlefield face down, it will have the characteristics given to it by the rule or effect that caused it to be face down. That card remains hidden, using either a face-down checklist card or opaque sleeves. See rule 707, “Face-Down Spells and Permanents.”
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>>50443603
The fucking price on those is stupid as hell.

Fortunately you can get the box with only the planechase and none of the other stuff for like $45
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>>50442769
Figured as such. Can't beat that 1cmc. Same reason why I hold Viscera Seer on a pedestal for my Mazirek deck.

I know it's another thing to add into the shopping list of decent-sort-of-pricy items but consider Staff of Domination. It's pretty much the epitome of value overtime and a combo piece in of itself, and since you say you have mana left over, you can use that to your advantage with this stick.

Ah, "Haymaker" is usually the play that turns the game to your favor after resolution. Overloaded Cyclonic Rift is the most common one. Insurrection too. But in this case I was referring to dropping your combo right after it becomes 1v1.

Yupyup. I think I have like 12 lands I pulled out from my box o' holding that produce any color, along with 8 rocks that tap for any color. Good thing too. Pre-Removal of Rule 4 had people run Mycosynth Lattice, and I'm already using that elsewhere.
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>>50444424
Or just have sleeves you can't see the back through

This reminds me of the Loading Ready Run skit

https://youtu.be/GaiEZuZhWmA
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>>50444540
But then I have to take the card out of the sleeve to flip it and I am a bum.
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>randomly looking through cards on gatherer
>see this
>comments
>SAMURAI FROG

Took me a minister but holy fuck, that's hilarious.
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Should i feel guilty after killing one player early into a game?

The poor guy was just totally crushed and now he has to sit and check his phone for half an hour.

Not like it was my fault he couldn't defend himself.

Do you tend to spare people out of pity in your playgroup?
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Can someone post the picture with all the wheel effects that you can cram into Yidris please?
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>>50444794
>Should i feel guilty after killing one player early into a game?
Depends. You playing competitive at a shop or playing with friends?

If you're playing with friends you're a shithead.
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>>50444794
>Do you tend to spare people out of pity in your playgroup?

Depends on the player and deck they are bringing.

I don't feel bad about knocking Aurelia out because I know if she lasts too long things get silly, same for our Pillowfort and Stax players.

They do the same thing when I bring out Jhoira
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>>50444794
Yeah, next time be better sport and kill everyone.
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>>50444794
Yes. But then again, I've got more play experience than the others in my group combined, so I tend to "forget" things or make "mistakes" so that I'm not bowling them over most of the time. This includes not going after the guy with the hardest luck.
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>>50444794
I'm horribly guilty of this, if "guilty" is the right word. When I ran Aurelia tokens, I would often spread the pain as equally as I possibly could considering everyone's respective boardstate quality and number of blockers. The same happens when my Gitrog deck makes a lot of tokens even now. In fact people pick on me a lot for being too nice and that I'm throwing games because of it. I don't think that last bit is entirely true but I do wonder sometimes if being too nice can be a problem for me as a player.
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>want to order the singles for a well tested funtime gahiji deck today
>but also want to order a grenzo, havoc raiser deck that i threw together like 2 days ago

the decks are a bit similar, both want to make opponents attack each other and play dumb casual shit. i feel like i'm making a mistake by ordering both at the same time

fffffffffuck
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EDH deck archetype tier list.

>tryhard tier
Combo

>nofun tier
Stax

>honest tier
Control
Midrange
Aggro
Value

>autism tier
Lifegain
Pillowfort
Group Hug

>neck yourself tier
Chaos

How accurate? Any archetype I'm missing?
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>>50444882
Voltron, I suppose.
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>>50444882
You know, obsessive categorizing and sorting of things is a symptom of autism.
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>>50444794
depends. how much of a threat was the player? were they about to combo off or kill you? how quickly will you be able to take out the other players after that? because if you can take everybody out quickly, all the power to ya, then you can shuffle up and play again. if the person wasn't any particular threat, and you crushed someone with a much lower tier deck than yours early game just to show you could, then you might want to look at yourself and ask "who hurt you?"
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>>50444882
Move grouphug to KYS tier.

Combo isn't tryhard tier if it's janky, so that's on par with control decks (which often win with a combo anyway)

Aggro in EDH is autism tier.
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>>50444882

>As Karl use lifegain to voltron

Curses! Foiled again!
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>>50444917
>You know, obsessive categorizing and sorting of things is a symptom of autism.
He plays lifegain/pillowfort.
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>>50444332
>tfw slowly turning into Uncle Istvan
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>>50444947
>tfw soon you can't be damaged by creatues
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>>50444947
>tfw you already are Uncle Istvan (And not even legendary)
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>>50444882
Is storm considered combo?
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>>50444980
>pic
Fuck. What am I doing with my life

;_;
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>>50444980
stop stop STOP STOP THIS IS TOO REAL

I'm already feeling doom and I'm under 25
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>>50444980
Wew, that one hits awful close to home. Thank God I managed to be moderately normal and go to college and have a kid in my early 20's so I'm not completely alone. She's my Magic partner, if I didn't have her I'd probably sit here alone and drink constantly like 27-29 says even though I'm 30+.
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>>50444794
nah, if someones deck is so shit they cant not get killed early then they deserve to get killed early. the biggest problem in EDH is people think they are entitled to get their combo off even if their deck is utter dog shit. 90% of the time you can make a good get that doenst get BTFO early AND still get your combo off no matter how jank it is as long as you build a not retarded deck
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>>50444980
Well, I'm at the 24 mark now and it's not looking any brighter.
Just dropped out of college again to my anxiety and depression.

I'd have offed myself already by now if I didn't have close family that cares about me being alive.

I guess as time goes on and they also lose hope in me, I can safely escape this world.
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>>50444980

>Have a cushy receptionist gig at 24

Oh fuck thank God I talk good.
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>>50444947
>>50444980
>>50445002
>>50445040
>>50445041
Maybe thats why Uncle Istvan isn't a legend.. Because there are so many of them.
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>>50444195
always and forever
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>>50445109
We're not talking about sitting there while autist johnson finally digs through his 99 card deck to find his combo pieces.

We're just talking about people casually playing magic. If someone is getting mana fucked then killing them early is just being a dick (unless you're going to win the game in a turn or two).

Commander/EDH is a casual format guys.
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>>50445156
Fuck.
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>>50444821
Friendly reminder of this please.
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>>50445182
Am I crazy or should that card be selling for way more than fifty cents? That's a good ass card that can be used in a shitload of decks.
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>>50445191
playing casually doesnt mean you just get a pass on making a bad deck. if you get BTFO early then put in things that help you stay alive early. its not expensive nor hard to do.

if you just did not put in enchantment removal in your deck are you going to get mad at people for playing enchantments? no you are going to just get some protection against enchantments
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>>50445242
It's only a 2/4 for 3.
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>>50445182
What would happen if you had that out and someone did the ol' Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood combo.
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>>50444195
Obligatory Nephilim
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>>50445278
Life loss isn't damage.
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>>50445262
Do you even have friends?

If you got four people at the table and one guy hasn't drawn land since the start of the game then killing him off isn't doing anything but being a dick.
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>>50445156
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>>50445150
Dammit, anon. It makes me so angry that modern society produces so many men like you or me

Do yourself and your family a service and go to gym instead of killing yourself.
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>>50445262
>get land fucked with 38 lands
>some retard aggros you instead of the 2 other players who are actually threatening
>"UR DECK IS BAD HAHA U DESERVE TO LOSE"
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>>50445152
>tfw 23 and have had the same Union job for 5 years as of today
>live with gf and have 12 years left on my condo's mortgage
>car paid off in February
>sometimes I get down on myself because one group of friends don't like tg games so I have to split social circles

This comment chain reminded me I am doing alright.

You guys got this.
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>>50445311
People should be punished for bad nulligan decisions.
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>>50445311
>Do you even have friends?

yes i do, they are people capable of building not dog shit decks because they have at least a high school diploma and an IQ of at least 90. its not hard to make a deck that doesnt suck AND have fun for cheap. there are a literally shit fuck ton of cards legal in EDH, its not hard to make something good to the point where you dont get blow out early. and fuck if you cant politic out of an early kill EDH is just not the format for you
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>>50445364
you're actually kind of a mongoloid

don't reply to this person
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>>50445364
Jesus I think you're trolling.

Yes people should learn to properly build decks and have a proper ratio of lands and manarocks.

But you do understand there IS a luck element to magic right?
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>>50445332
>>50445315
>>50445197
>>50445156
>>50445072
>>50445041
>>50445040
>>50444980
>>50444947

Git gud guys. Embrace yourselves
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>>50445352
>almost half the deck is lands but you cant find one
sounds like someone needs to learn how to shuffle or not make terrible mulligan decisions

>some retard aggros you instead of the 2 other players who are actually threatening
you cant cant politic out of that you are a complete retard

>"UR DECK IS BAD HAHA U DESERVE TO LOSE"
yes, your deck is back and yes you do deserve to lose
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>>50440744
it's called an accent nail. girls love it when you compliment their accent nail. but no. it is supposed to be her visions shining through her hands. she's doing the "see no evil" thing too.
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>>50445354

I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT CARDBOARD RECTANGLES THAT MAKE ME HAPPY AND NOW THIS THREAD IS FULL OF FEELS

>tfw 23 and have had the same Union job for 5 years as of today

tfw 27 and working at walmart and subway part time

>live with gf and have 12 years left on my condo's mortgage

tfw no gf and rent room from cousin for the last six months

>car paid off in February

My $800 beater is on its last leg

>sometimes I get down on myself because one group of friends don't like tg games so I have to split social circles

Having multiple Social Groups
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>>50445332
Gyms have people in them, I don't know where to start and my anxiety stops me from finding it out.
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>>50445385
Just stating the obvious. I've seen it SO many times that it's not even funny anymore.

People are keeping obviously unplayable opening hands and then whining and complaining about their "bad luck" and "mana screw". Well, they screwed themselves. There is a limit on how much a person should shift blame on luck and their opponents, and too often I see players crossing that line when it comes to risky keeps. Hell, I will even let them even draw new seven if they mull.
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>>50445443
You'll make it through alright. You just gotta believe!

(I'll still Darksteel Mutate your general though. Better hope you have enchantment destruction.)
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>>50445413
>sounds like someone needs to learn how to shuffle or not make terrible mulligan decisions

i get mana screwed even when i play online. it just happens sometimes. start with 3 lands, draw none in the next 6 turns. sometimes i start with 2 lands if i have otherwise really good ramp, and i calculate there being a 95% chance of drawing a land by so and so turn, and i STILL dont draw it sometimes.

>you cant cant politic out of that you are a complete retard

well obviously i couldn't do that if i was playing against you, because you seem like an obtuse cunt
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>>50445451
I have been in the same situation for years. I finally started going when I had a friend to tag along with. Just start by actually going for the first time, then it's a breeze. Gyms have personal trainers that can give you advice and training programs.

I should make a workout advice blog for /tg/ or something. Someone should.
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>>50445536
online is not an accurate representation of real life and you know it. you can straight up go look up a shit load of studies on that if you wanted to

>well obviously i couldn't do that if i was playing against you, because you seem like an obtuse cunt
you most certainly could, you just dont want to make yourself my bitch for most of the game because then you could make everyone super jelly with your shit deck idea. literally all it would take is "ill bock for you once when you want me to"
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>>50445562

I'll do it.

Here's my workout advice for /tg/: Ahh, physical fitness, whatever. You know, whatever. You do what you like to do, I do what I like to do, ok? 'Cause you're a sucker, you're being fed this line about how, like, you're going to live forever or whatever. You're going to die, someone will kill ya'. Someone will kill you with a knife. Make sure your abs are fricken ripped, you got some good guns. You wanna look good for when you get stabbed with a knife. Sorry, thats how it works.
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>>50445644
Thanks, Carl.
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How does your playgroup handle the Wish cards?

>Soft-banned (no sideboards allowed)?
>15 card sideboard?
>All owned cards outside of game?
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>>50445644
Sounds great. Where can I buy the ebook?

There does seem to be a critical lack of Chads in tabletop gaming. Can't imagine why
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>>50443626
Working on Queen Marchesa. She was the first deck I ever built. All of my other decks are pre-cons I "edited" till they suck
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>>50445693
>How does your playgroup handle the Wish cards?
I never actually met a person who would play them
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>>50440509
it'd be too good
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>>50445730
>>50445693
I play with a guy who has a stupid huge collection. We play at his place a lot. He has a Child of Alara deck that's basically a mana fixing shell and whatever he feels like throwing in. He has the full wish cycle in there, plus glittering wish. It's a dumb deck that he plays for fun, so we're all cool with him just grabbing whatever.
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>>50445693
I used it in my Trostani Lifegain deck and only ever use it to get the platinum angel I have kept in my wallet five years.

It was fun the first couple times but I would feel like a dick if I opened up another deck and took out my Blightsteel or Craterhoof or something.
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>>50445825
Do wish spells let you grab cards that aren't legal in the format?
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>>50445704
It's just me and Martin Shkreli. We're the two alphas of Magic.
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>>50445804
Now I have to build a deck with those two. Thanks a lot, anon. It's like my playgroup doesn't hate me enough.
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>>50445834
>use it to get the platinum angel I have kept in my wallet five years
... Why the fuck did you carry a platinum angel in your wallet? Magic cards don't work irl you know. You could still die.
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>>50445825
One time he cast Cunning wish, started to get up, then said "You guys know I have Force of Will, right?" We all said yes, and he just exiled a blue card from his hand and lost a life. It was pretty funny.
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>>50439417
that's not Daretti

posting list incase someone wants a Daretti list
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/competitive-daretti-stax/
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>>50445834
>the platinum angel I have kept in my wallet five years.
My nigga. I used to do the same.
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>>50445861
>He doesn't play the game.
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>>50445842
Not sure what the official ruling is on that, but he's never tried to and I don't think he would. It's a pretty chill group.
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>>50445693
We dont. Honestly wishes don't have a place in commander.
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>>50445861
Its just a great card and makes for a good inside joke amongst my friends.

>>50445877
I am glad it wasn't only me.
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>>50445843
There's also Rudy from Alpha Investments. He's pretty alpha.
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>>50445914
One of the jews who 'invests' with magic.
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>>50445914

I think he might have brain damage but yeah he is pretty alpha.
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>>50445938
He may be an investor but he's no Jew.
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>>50444980

DOOM ISN'T SO BAD

EHEHEHEHEHE

%You were born in the wrong century, get into combat sports%
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BUENOS DIAS FUCKERS
YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

TIME TO SEE WHICH BORDER IS SUPERIOR

http://www.strawpoll.me/11758330
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So my friend bought the old 2013 Naya Precon and doesnt like any of the commanders.
He wanted to try Uril and asked for my help but doesn't want to spend more than $50 to test it out.
Our group is pretty casual with no strong tutors, barely any "good" board wipes and limited control and removal (seriously they all need help because its a bit ridiculous.)

Was wondering how this looked:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-tricolor-voltron/
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>>50446001
Speaking of borders. Do you guys allow gold-bordered cards in your games?
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>>50446001
Whoever just voted Future Sight I hope your baby's born dead.
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>>50445914
>>50445938
>>50445940

Honestly I can't stand the guy, weird thing is I don't know what bothers me so much, not sure if it's the way he talks, his attitude/opinions, or whatever.
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>>50446001
White-bordered basics for easier tutoring and extra tilting of my opponents. 9th Ed. John Avon only.
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>>50446001
>One vote for future sight already
You people make me wanna goddamn puke.
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>>50446017
Yeah. I don't wanna shell out $400 for Gaea's Cradle either, dude. We all understand.
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>>50446023
>>50446034

lel good to know I'm not alone in hating that set with the fire of a thousand suns
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>>50445938
While Rudy makes an okay product (he doesn't go into as much detail to the root causes as he could), the ultimate thing about what he is doing is that he is always winning.

He has already made a move when he makes a video. If his followers follow exactly what he does, it benefits his position.

It's no different than investment advice - the people offering it (for free) are already in a fantastic position to benefit if you follow their advice. You'll win because the advice is solid, but you won't win as hard as them.

And even if he's wrong, he still gets YouTube/Patreon bucks. It just illustrates how fucking horrible Magic. I'm actually glad he's making a fantastic living doing exploiting it.
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>>50446023
>inb4 Future Sight takes the lead because of this
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>>50446024
It's the exact opposite for me. I love hearing him talk about economics and do quirky stuff. I've watched all his videos and check his channel daily. The guy just gets it and he knows what he's doing.
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>>50446056
I LOVE the set, so sorry about that bud, but the Future Sight borders are poorly designed and ugly.
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>>50446034
>>50446056

I only have Bitter Ordeal because of my Sharuum but I thought it was pretty cool.

Definitely different.

Ideally they would find a way to fit more art on there but meh.

A handful of those cards would be easy to see all the mana when they are flushed in your hand.
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>>50446024
It seems like he was a former investment banker. He talks like one; I was once one.

He's applying his skills to Magic. I think the thing that bothers you is that it sets off the bullshit-meter. Everything he says is sounds good to be true but the thing is that it's true and Rudy benefits if you follow his advice, hence why he can afford to give it away for "free".

I wonder at his history. In one of the videos it's implied he is on a military base or something, which I believe - games stores near military bases make so much money it isn't even funny.
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>>50446023
>>50446034
>>50446060

cant handle the future, grandpas? still miss mana burn, old man? bet you hate fun flip cards too! *ollies creatures outtie*
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>>50446099
>my Sharuum

Can you please explain her combo in as few words as possible?
The one with the clone effect and stacking your triggers.
Someone pulled it on me last week on EDH night and I just nodded my head and rolled my eyes.
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>>50446099
My biggest gripe is the casting cost is in the wring place.
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>>50446150
>Can you please explain her combo in as few words as possible?

No.

I took apart the deck because I stopped playing "competitively" and my group now is nowhere near ready for the shitstorm that was my Sharuum Combo Deck.
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>>50446134
>still miss mana burn, old man?
...yes

And my knees hurt
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>>50439417
You, Deritti, and me shouls form a rock band.
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>>50446153
I mean wrong place compared to normal but when I am holding a full hand of cards the Future Sight cards would all have their mana cost visible which is cool to me.
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>buy some dragon shield 100 count sleeves for new deck
>after I finish sleeving up I have 4 remaining
>card count is still 100

Is this common to get more than the listed sleeves? My autism is bothering me about this
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>>50446176
>You, Deritti, and me shouls form a rock band.
a mana rock band
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>>50446202
I think it's not only common, but intentional to get a few extra dragon shield sleeves. I feel like I almost always have 4 or 5 left over.
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>>50446202
Dragon Shields always have a few extra sleeves in the pack. In case you damage one or two, you get spares.
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>>50446001
>only 1 vote for silver border
Do you hate fun?
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>>50440221
Sen triplets is probably not as terrible as it looks on paper threat wise. However, part of why I think gets hated out pretty quick is people don't want their opportunities to play/contribute/etc taken from them.

I'm no different, If someone gets sen trips out, I'm blowing it up asap if no one else does
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>>50446170
Why haven't they printed a red enchantment that returns manaburn to the game? 1R or something.

It seems so simple.
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>>50446150
>cast sharuum
>sharuum ETB triggers, targeting phyreixan metamorph/sculpting steel
>let PM/SS enter as a copy of sharuum
>state based action kick in, sacrifice sharuum due to legend rule
>PM/SS ETB triggers, targeting sharuum
>sharuum enters, use state based action to sacrifice PM/SS due to legend rule
wash, rinse, repeat
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>>50446281
Honestly? Even when mana burn was a thing, I think I saw it come up all of ONCE.

There's always mana barbs
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>>50446305
Well, in commander it happens ALL the fucking time, now that you don't need to think about how much mana you make.

Tapping that Gaea's Cradle for 30 might just kill you.
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>>50446320
That's a good point. Yeah, I can see making something like that.
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>>50441418
Well played anon
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>>50443904
Sent a friend request. My profile image is a Portal XKCD icon.
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>>50446025
You have excellent taste
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>>50440509
Yeah, if this didn't tap, playing the card would be pretty much admitting to planning on going for a stall.
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>>50442744
Fucking love my Ruric Thar deck. Wiscons are pulverize everything OR resolve Primal Surge and play everything from my library. Granted that one is weak to a draw spell instant
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>>50446344
zuzu would be absolute murder for anyone that runs all the fetch lands they can. barbs would be the icing on the gobo pain train.
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>>50445302
Gatherer ruling disagrees with you bud.
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>>50444882
Durdle quietly with a big stick?
>personal favorite for multiplayer
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>get hyped for atarxa on release
>preorder the deck and $60 worth of walkers for it
>build the deck and play it
>I hate it
The deck is boring and it's next to impossible to keep walkers alive for more than 2 turn cycles in my meta. I feel like the only way to make it viable at all in my meta is to add shit like Stasis and Winter Orb, which would just be pure (unfun) cancer.

Has anyone else bought into a meme commander and regretted it?
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>>50446474
How many times do people have to say that superfriends is possibly the least fun archetype (another for your list >>50444882) in EDH.

Planeswalkers either do fucking nothing, or they ulti straight away using cards like that doubling fish or doubling season and turn the game into a chore as people try to play around 2-3 crippling emblems that don't finish the game.

I tried making a 5 color superfriends deck around theros and it was fucking miserable.
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>>50446425
Damage causes life loss. Life loss is not damage.
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How the fuck do you double sleeve with dragon shields? Every time I go to put the card in a little bit pokes out like its a fucking condom or something.
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>>50446543
Put it in normally until you can, then slide it in carefully with your thumb or your index finger. The finger puts pressure on the inner sleeve while sliding it in so it doesn't slide out.

I feel dirty after writing that.
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>>50444882
Aren't midrange and value basically the same thing?
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>>50446474
For 2015, I bought the Meren and Daxos decks and modded them.

My multiplayer approach is kick back and durdle with reasonable threats or way encourage not messing with my board state

Daxos has been somewhat underwhelming. I got him since I had a Dimir constellation non-edh (too lazy for 60 card formats) that I've had fun with and recently made Esper for Stanfield of Nyx and that enchantment that makes angels on casts.

Anyway, I started trying to do budget pillow fort, and that didn't work. Now it's more of a hey I've got a bit more than average removal and enchantment value.

No set wincon atm. Here's a link if anyway has suggestions. On a budget but I ordered some things over the weekend on the cheap

List: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/spiritual-experience/
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>>50446569
Oh and the finger is to be pressed against the front side of the card, not the top.
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>>50446474
I bought her and some cards even before the wincon. The only difference was, I chose to go for the counters for creatures route and a few $10 walkers to go as alternate wincons.

I'm having fun with it. First game I had with her on my meta, I managed to drop and ult Bant Tamiyo (thanks Deepglow Skate) which led me to drop most of my walkers and ulted them. Most of the time when I win with her, its due to Atraxa getting big and swinging in for the kill.
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>>50446621
>before the wincon.

I meant the precon.
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>>50446500

I disagree abot superfriends

I think it's cool to just get lots of value every turn

Sorry you didn't have fun
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>>50446584
You know, I really miss 60-card casual sometimes. Those multiplayer games can be really fun and there is no 100-card shuffling or commander-tracking bullshit. Definitely less tutoring and less combo.
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>>50446474
>mfw I was thinking of buying atraxa but went with breya instead

Didn't make it durdly and its working out so far. The problem with atraxa is she only has 2 viable options but they end up being the same shit each game
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Anyone have a good Tariel list? I've been thinking about building her.
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>>50446671
Breya was my other preorder from C16 and I'm really satisfied with her. She's super fun and can be both interactive or comboy depending on the situation.
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>>50446096
Nah, they're set up so you can see important information while they're in your hand without cycling through them.

They're the superior card design.
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>>50443626
Norin the Wary player here.
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>>50443626
The 2015 Boros commander is bretty gud
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I've been looking for a good EDH precon to carry with me to lend it to people who don't have a deck yet. Which one should I get? Ideally, it should be:
a) noob-friendly
b) decent out of the box
c) capable of standing a chance against a real edh deck
d) not monocolor

Anyone has experience with the Saskia deck?
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>>50446893
one of the 2015s would likely be best. both ezuri and meren have been some of the strongest precons in a while. 4 colour may not be a good choice for a new player, as fixing can be tricky for a newer player to learn.
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>>50446893
c) capable of standing a chance against a real edh deck

Atraxa is probably the strongest out of the bunch, mostly just because of how strong a deterrent she is. Prevents people from attacking into you better than most pillowfort effects, while still swinging at other players, gaining you life and racking up commander damage.

Then you somehow get a +1/+1 counter on Atraxa and all hell is loose.
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>>50443626

Number one has to be kami of the crescent moon turbostasis or endrek attrition.

Although experiment kraj is just an all together fun deck. I'm enjoying my wort boggart auntie build too, in a more "casual" meta. (I hate referring to metas as casual or not, some decks have a higher power level then others and are just not suitable for play in "lower " games)
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>>50446893
Probably Meren
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Power level has to do with many things, I think.

1) experience of player *in game*. Anyone can netdeck a killer tier 1 deck, not everyone can pilot it.

2) version of deck, how many times has it been (efficiently) tweaked and tuned? How much love do you have for your commander?

3) strength and potential of commander. Like it or not, sometimes the simplest meren deck will decimate the most tuned haakon deck, simply because she is more useful and is easier to build a strong and consistent strategy around.

4) time and exposure to the game. Some aspects to the game simply work off of how long you've been around and how well you can predict plays from specific decks. (knowledge of the strategies of edh, politics, threat assessment, etc as well)

5) money put into deck. Again, like it or not, money powers the game up. (Assuming use of proxies are not allowed, not that they shouldn't be, but for the sake of the post

6) intent of deck. Sometimes a deck just wont cut it if it's trying not to be as spike as possible. Ape tribal just won't be strong, even if all the other #s are fufilled. Same thing with purposely gimping a deck.

What am I missing ?

sidenote, a higher Power level does not make the game necessarily better, try not to start an arms race if you're in a comfy place with your meta. Winning isn't everything!
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>>50446474
I bought Breya for a precon pod tournament. I enjoyed it far more then I thought I would. She now helms a deck that is quickly becoming my favorite.


>>50446500
I have a Narset (only one extra turn spell) Superfriends.dec with a Legacy Miracles subtheme.

It's a blast to play but I'll admit it can bog the game down to a crawl when my group lets me have 8 walkers to activate plus chain veil.
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>>50446968
>>50446945
Figures. I should have added d) is not twice as expensive as the others
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>>50447056
Why would you ever pay over MSRP for it?
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>>50447010
Winning isn't everything, but making your deck better and seeing it play out is probably the greatest enjoyment I get from EDH.

As I was gradually tweaking my Breya and added all the good 2 CMC rocks, the deck became so much better. Noticing how big the change was and how much smoother the deck became as a result is a great feeling.

Especially when you go Etherium Sculptor into 4 different 2 CMC rocks that tap for 1 into a Wheel of Fortune. Feels so good.
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>>50447068
I can get most of the CMD decks for below 23€, except the notorious ones.
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>>50440699
Yeah but being able to run U and G in my vial smasher deck is fucking cancerous so I have no complaints.
I'm kind of mad we haven't had a decent male goblin legendary in a while. I want a fresh new midget husbando.
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So the only good green deck I have (omnath of rage) isn't doing it for me anymore because the meta has shifted too much. What deck would you recommend to somebody that is really fun in green that isnt just spamming terrastadon? I'm tired of my green deck's strongest thing being hunting for one card to combo with.
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>>50447127
Atraxa seems to be €23-24 on MCM though? Meren is closer to €30
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>>50447155
Green is kinda retarded by itself. Why do you think their planeswalker used to be some dipshit with a special helmet?
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>>50447155
play pashiri tokens
make lots of big dudes
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>>50447056
Its selling for MSRP on tcgplayer. The other decks are cheaper because they're shittier.
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>>50447155
Yisan'- Green's Greatest Hits
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>>50447165
I'll play any variant of green except for 4 color, just it has to be fun. Although I do agree most of green is pretty retarded.
>>
Wait, gaybros had the most expensive cards, didn't it?

Why is it the cheapest deck by far then?

€15 for a sealed gaybro deck, €32 for atraxa
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>>50444195
>dropped this card last Saterday
>the omnath player stared laughing cause he had never heard of it before
>followed it up with rite of replication
>laughing stopped

they now fear my elf deck after I over ran with renegade leader about 30 times the next turn
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>>50447208
Gaybros are the worst commander printed. If someone wanted the cards printed in it they would just buy those cards.
Atraxa is a waifu, phyrexian, and completely broken so she is going to be worth the most.
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>>50447224
>>50447208
The groupfug deck is great. I beat real decks with a turn two oath of druids so I think the deck is fine. I'm surprised that all the decks are viable unlike all the other commander precons.
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>>50447208
Nobody wants to look at pandering fondling each other while they're trying to play Magic.
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>>50447237
>beat real decks with turn 2 oath
literally any green deck can do this. As a group hug commander they are fine sure, but nothing about their mechanics or theme is very impressive. They could have been printed as mono G in all honestly, or UG. They don't have any R in their design or W. I like the characters, but the card fails to properly display all 4 colors.
They are a failed card design.
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>>50447138
im surprised by the recent influx of goblin waifus. zada, mizzix, and vial smasher all within the past year. i feel like they know whats up, it seems like too much of a coincidence not to.
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>>50447270
It's merely a by-product of them making legendary goblins and their policy of "55% of all named characters in the set must be female"
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>>50447270
I NEED my goblin dongers tho wizards is failing to pander to me as a minority and it's making me TRIGGERED.
Also sulfurous springs is still the best art of the pain lands. If they ever reprint it they better keep the demon bro that is just chilling. They should add more demon bros. Just a frat of them swimming in a giant pool of sulfur.

>>50447290
I think that system is fine but I still want husbandos that aren't generic humans/almost-humans.
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>>50447295

Sulfurous springs has been reprinted before and they changed the art
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>>50447290
and my boner is eternally grateful.

>>50447295
gonna have to settle for trash pope and his bara butt buddy with two slightly different flavors until they come up with something new.
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>>50447395
How dare they.
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>>50447411
>and my boner is eternally grateful.
But they recently added an addendum. "... with no tits and/or with sensible clothes"
>>
>>50447265
"Stalwart Unity" is very R/W flavor-wise, which is why it makes sense for them to be a hug general
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Question: How would Yidris wheels.dec deal with the graveyard reshuffling Kozilek and Ulamog?
I'm fiddling around with a list and I just realized they (and similar effects) would shut that theme down cold.
>>
>>50447638
You're not supposed to mill them out?
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>>50447638
relic of progenitus and tormods crypt
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>>50447700
>>50447638

Yeah I'm not seeing the issue here, you still trying to rely on stuff like consuming aberration?

The good part of wheels is that you draw lots of cards and your opponents discard stuff they may have wanted in hand

Filling their graveyard is one of the downsides so I'm not really seeing the problem
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>>50443209
>all basics of one type have to have the same picture
Fucking this.
All my basics have to be the same picture of whatever Zendikar/Unhinged land I like for that type.
And no mixing Zendi with Unhinged, either; it's all of one or all of t'other.

I have a friend that is the exact opposite in that his basics all have to have a different picture.

Drives me nuts.
>>
>>50447809
The problem is that original Kozilek and Ulamog would just shuffle a players graveyard back into their deck.
I'd like to disrupt by making opponents repeatedly (as you said) and (if possible) negate or minimize the effect that hitting Ulamog or Kozilek would have on that strategy.
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>>50447834

I'm not seeing the problem though

You're still disrupting their hand, you're still drawing lots of cards, it's just their cards go back in the library. I'm honestly not really seeing how the eldrazi need their effect "minimized" when their effect is minimal

I have to ask again, are you trying to kill them out? Are you trying to win with consuming aberration or lord of extinction or something?
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>>50447817
Hah, exact same here.

Including the friend who HAS to have a different picture on each land.

I also only run foil BfZ full-arts. I managed to trade around 150 or so of them to me during the period where people still opened them.
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>>50447834

>>50447865

Are you trying to *mill* them out?
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>>50447873
Going for tons of wheels to screw with people, stuff like feldon's cane to recycle them and do it all over again. Also tons of board wipes in Yidris colors to fuck anything that does hit the field.
I'm not 100% sure how much or little hitting Eldrazi with wheel effects would hurt those strategies (since I've never tried a deck like that), hence my asking if it'd be possible to stop/minimize them and similar effects.
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>>50447867
>>I also only run foil BfZ full-arts
Damn, son. I wish I had big money like you.

Actually, seeing as my Breya deck only uses 3 of each basic, I probably could swing for foils.
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>>50447915

I don't really understand your deck idea, yidris doesn't want to die to board wipes

BUT, I think you can safely make that deck and not worry a hoot about eldrazi shuffle effects, because they won't matter at all

What you should do is run gy hate like tormod's crypt and maybe Nihil spellbomb or even leyline of the void, because filling people's gy with a bunch of wheels will make you lose fast to gy decks like meren or Sedris or daretti, etc
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>>50447924
I didn't spend any money on it, just traded.
>>
I gotta figure out how to make my Breya deck less overtly combo-y, without losing its killing power.

Right now, it's basically
1. tutor for Ashnod
2. tutor for Deathmantle
3. cast Breya
4. win
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>>50448010

Your opponents need to run more removal and maybe you can run fewer tutors
>>
>>50446584
Pretty much everything in the maybeboard is good, Scope being the exception. You'll want Cabal Coffers to go with your Urborg. I would like to see Auramancer, Font of Return, Endless Horizon, Agent of Erebos, the black archetype, and Mine Excavation in the list. You could easily slot in Helm+ RiP, but if you want to play it as a fair deck add more haymakers like True Conviction. As for cuts: Brave the Sands, Daxos Torment, Feast on the Fallen, Necromancer's Convenant, Orim's Prayer, Skybind (with current configuration), Vampiric Rites, Vessel, Gild, Dawn to Dusk, Chosen, Unraveler, Grim Guardian, Pious Evangel, Student of Ojutai, and Coinsmith are all bad. Your curve is pretty good by /tg/ standards, but your shitty cards are concentrated in the early game, so work in more CA and mana rocks.
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>>50447155
R/G Xenagos, or R/G fatty Omnath
>>
What are some auto includes in a sygg, river cutthroat edh?
>>
>>50448196

Undermine
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>>50448196
Deadeye
Palinchron
Phantasmal Image
Consecrated Sphinx
Snapcaster Mage
Ponder
Preordain
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>>50440320
Don't do this, people will find it odd and you'll put people off you and the game.
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>>50448491
I only play with my friends at home and they agree with me. All of us are pretty fierce with our gruul decks.
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>>50446371
i was out on business but i am now back. i live in euro time so that may cause some problems

also heres a deckbox ive spent some time on. soon it will have hinges and a latch
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>>50448083
Noted and thanks anon. I'll be looking into and adding them to the higher priority level of my trades wants.
>>
>>50447449
thats fine, mizzix pic is a sufficiently enough clevage if that is the standard they go by.
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>>50448219
Are you the "guess the commander" that just posts generic good stuff?
>>
>>50447295
But they just started to appealing to my love for shortstacks.
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>>50440244
https://imgur.com/gallery/Dhzn4
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>>50447867
>>50447817
>>50446380
I bought the Planechase Anthology, and the Chaos Reigns deck has only one image per basic, and its basics are all John Avons from 9th Edition. All in the M15 frame.

I can't wait to play it.
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Other cards like this?
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>>50441418
jesus fuck that art is bad
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>>50449111
Hobbits I get. Sexy goblins (like from WoW) I get. But MtG goblins...?

>>50449351
So much cringe I don't know where to begin.
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>>50449432
I only know Master Warcraft and Odric 1.0
>>
Fresh Bread when?
>>
>>50449482
>>50449432
brutal warchief
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>>50443626
Volrath. Ita just so much fun throwing down removal until you can pulp a player who has an empty board state with one attack. Uril is a close second because I've put so much love into that deck. Who else can say they arcbonded a blasphemous act then redirected it with mirrorwood treefolk foe the win?
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