/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls General

what do you guys thinks the ka'po'tun tiger dragons would look like?

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Just a heads up for everyone here who is interested in UESRPG, but isn't following things too closely: we've picked up a bunch of folks for the team, and we're doing a new edition. We have the manpower, motivation, and justification necessary to make it happen.

We don't intend to deviate too dramatically from some of our core mechanics (it's still d100, for example). But the goal is to streamline and simplify both the process of learning and playing the game, while maintaining much of the cool stuff that makes it interesting, as I'll be the first to admit it's a clunky bastard.

I'll have details soon. You can check out the subreddit if you want the full speech, or visit our discord (via our link in the OP) if you want to help out or just shitpost about cliffracers.

I for one am super hype about where things are going. We're gonna make TES P&P great again.

Can someone explain meridia to me?Also why does she likes ayleids and hates undead?

>>50417168
Great news! Praise be!

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>>50417041

>>50417751
Meridia is a cunt and the ayylmaos are also cunts. They're also pretty good at not dying to be raised as the undead, unless you involve magic terminators.

>>50417751
Meridia, or Merid, or Merid-Nunda, was a follower of Magnus, a Magne-Ge, Magna-Ge, or Get.

She held the whole of the blackblock under her hood, but then her dad kicked her out for consorting with illicit spectra.

Is Peryite an aspect of akatosh?

>>50419090
Maybe?

At this point even Mora could be.

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>>50417041
Like really big cats.

>>50417168
>we're doing a new edition
That's fucking great, I'm looking forwards to see what you guys come up with.

Will you be updating the supplements as well, and are there any new ones planned?

>>50417751
>explain meridia
Her dad caught her hanging with the wrong crew and threw her out.

>>50419123
>Will you be updating the supplements as well, and are there any new ones planned?
I think it is mentioned on r/UESRPG that they will be polishing them.

Exactly how is Zenithar a warrior god? He's lel happy merchant god, nothing about him involves battle.

>>50419431
He's a labor God, and soldier is also a job.

>>50419431
Because he's a combination of multiple agricultural and war deities.

>>50419431
>He's lel happy merchant god
How incredibly Cyrodiilic of you to think that.

Zenithar is above all the God of Work, Toil and Labour, a god of soldiers more than a god of warriors. Seeing him as having to do with the merchant class is more of a regional thing, he's just as much an agricultural god.

>>50419431
Killin' is work

I hate elves.

>>50420382
Pelinal please go

>>50419431
>>50419787
Soldiers do more than kill, they also build shit.

Trenches, bridges, and the like.

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Talking about Ysgramor the Dragon last thread get, we touched on the whole theme of "doing is being" that's somewhat of a metaphysical truth in TES.

While on a different level, this combination of believing, being and doing is something that's pretty prominent in Khajiiti religion and culture..

The interplay between Fadomai and Azurah in traditional Khajiiti faith is echoed in the relationship between Clan Mother and Favoured Daughter, with religious secrecy to mirror their stories of the divine.

Baan Dar is a god, but he's also a concept/symbol, as well as being a way of life. One can believe in Baan Dar, one can believe in what Baan Dar represents, and if one does like Baan Dar, one can "be" Baan Dar.

Riddle'Thar is a god in one sense, and his avatars can walk Tamriel, but he's also a concept of cosmic order, which in practice is really a set of guidelines about how to live. Believing in Riddle'Thar is in a sense the same as acting according to Riddle'Thar, or even "being" Riddle'Thar.

The ja-Kha'jay is a religious concept, but it also decides your appearance, and it has been the basis for a system of governance, the phases of the moons deciding which parts/regions of Khajiiti society are dominant. The Mane is both the religious and political leader.

Even names are kind of related, since it's common to take a name describing what you do. You are Jobasha (Basha the Scholar) because you do scholarly work.

Do any of you actually have any of the stuff from The Restless League, and if so do people ever ask what it is?

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>>50419123
>Will you be updating the supplements as well, and are there any new ones planned?
We're going to update them, and we do have one new one planned as well. Pic somewhat related.

>>50419467
>>50419487
>>50419512
So Zenithar is a socialist? Arming the proletariat and all that?

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>>50422505

>>50422505
also god of commerce.
so a filthy capitalist jew.

What gods/panethon would you worship /tgesg/? I can't help feel drawn to the Tribunal. Despite being a fairly selfish group, they did protect and allow Morrowind to prosper.

>>50423872
>glorifying daedra worshippers
May Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the Vigil have none to spare.

>>50423872
There are two different tribunals. Be specific.
>>50424105
>implying the vigilantes are a danger to anyone but themselves

>>50424131
Sorry I meant the ALMSIVI one

>>50423872
Hircine seems like a nice guy.

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>>50423872
Praise Azurah.

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Are Nords slavic?

>>50424423
Not really. Maybe they share some aspects of Slav-folklore.

>>50424423
No they're Nords

>>50425085
Those "aspects" were never slavic in origin.

>>50423872
Azura, she seems like a firm but caring patron. Certainly not the 8 chumps who thought worldbuilding with the trickster god wasn't going to be a ruse.

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>>50423872
there is only one god

>>50423872
Akatosh. I like dragons, but I also like time fuckery.

>>50416952
I fucking love this OP pic

>>50425568
I believe you can thank Madmartigan for that. He's one of the long time UESRPG guys, and our resident shitposter.

>>50425306
>caring
>"hey so these couple of guys are assholes, let me just curse an entire ethnic group of people."
>"hey so im going to let a bunch of these people get killed because they worshipped the wrong gods."
>"i could totally appear and help this dude fuck up this masked freak but im just gonna watch and give him a thumbs up when hes done."
Oh boy do I wish Azura was my mother

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>>50425477
>using a torch in the orrery

>>50425619
Don't forget her all around bitchiness in Daggerfall

>>50425619
>"Hey so these couple of guys are assholes, let me just curse an entire ethnic group of people."
*changed their skin tone to remind them that there are consequences for being assholes
>"Hey so I'm going to let a bunch of these people get killed because they worshipped the wrong gods."
I'm not sure what incident you speaking of, but punishing traitors is part of her firm aspect
>"I could totally appear and help this dude fuck up this masked freak but I'm just gonna watch and give him a thumbs up when he's done."
Could she though? Either way, you wouldn't grow as a person if your mother did everything for you. She acts as guide not a nanny.

>>50423872
The Aedra obviously, I'm not a criminal, or a heathen.

>>50425788
Guides you to worship her without question or free will even though the other gods all have their own merits more like.

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>>50425832
What kind of limp wrist god doesn't? Pantheons only allow that shit because they can leech worshippers in a package deal.

Friendly reminder that Daedra do not care about you, their followers, or anything that does not further their own desires.
Do not trust a creature that requires a ritual to speak to it.
Please report any strange lights or noises to your local order of Stendarr.
Thank you for your time.

He explaimed it all to me. Before, when I still understood. I don't remember, but I still know.

Don't waste your time paying lip service to impotent corpse gods. Seize power and ensure your safety from the Daedric uprising.

>>50423872
I worship Kynareth, the patron Aedra of my home the great city of Daggerfall unequaled in the Illaic Bay. She provides the auspicious wind during the campaigns against pirates and Orcs.

>not just worshipping your own ancestors
Old Ways Best Ways.

Alright /tgesg/,
Were the Ayleids just an offshoot of the Aldmer or were they Bird people? some sort of Hybrid?

>>50427118
My take on it is that early Altmer settlers assimilated burb people and adopted parts of their culture.

>>50427118
>>50427143
Bird people? What do you mean?

>>50427196
Topal the Pilot was enchanted with the islands
And the feathered men who lived there.
There the Niben stayed for a moon, and the bird
Men learned how to speak their own words,
And with taloned feet, to write.
In joy for their new knowledge, they made Topal
Their lord, giving him their islands for the
Gift.
Topal said he would return someday, but first he
Must find the passage east to Firsthold, so
Far away.

>>50424423
They're Norse, you moron.

What's 4chan's fascination with having to constantly identify slavs and slav-inspired things?

>>50427118
They are elves, a break off from the Aldmeri way. Upon their rediscovery by the Altmer, they were perceived as bird people, because they had grown that estranged.

tell me about the Bretons, /tg/

>>50429097
+Naturally talented in magic
+Best-looking man race
+Slaughtered dirty mer
-Shortest man race
-Culture leans on "generic fantasy"

>>50425788
Ohhhkay, being the King of Rape is part of Molag Bal's aspect, doesn't mean his worshippers should get all giddy when a Daedroth bends one of them over the altar

>>50429182
>-Shortest man race
Proofs?

>>50429197
>worshipping the god of rape without a rape fetish
shiggydiggydoo

>>50422763
Why not both

>>50424423
They always seemed more Celtic until Skyrim

>>50429182
>Best-looking man race
Nords are fucking beautiful m8. It's a race full of Thors and David Hasselhoffs.
>>50429431
the games

>>50430051
Male Bretons are the same height as Imperials, Redguards, and Dunmer. Female Bretons are the second shortest just behind Male Bosmer.

>>50430176
I distinctly remember playing a male Breton in Skyrim and being, like, chin height to female Nords.

>>50430370
Nords are the tallest human race.

UESP lists the height for all races in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim in the Races section. Bosmer females grew taller than males in Skyrim for some reason.

Is Hammerfell (with Thras as an expansion) the best possible setting for TES 6?

>>50430703
>nigger japs
>more dwemer shit
>weeaboo fitan magiks
yes

>>50430703
Bethesda going bankrupt before they can make TES6 would be the best scenario.

>>50430703
Whats the plot? Ebonarm? Sword-singing?

I rather want them go WEIRD like in morrowind. Elsweyr or Valenwood.

>>50430774
> rather want them go WEIRD like in morrowind
Not gonna happen.

>>50417751
She was one of the Magna-Ge, the Aedra who managed to flee before being trapped in the mortal world.

After being severed from the veil of souls she hates anyone who would do that to another person and thus wishes to return the souls of the undead back to their place I.e. she wishes to free souls trapped as unread or trapped by necromancers.

She was kicked out of the Magna-He for "consulting with illicit spectra" which may mean one of the following:
She banged some Ayelid dude.
She was buddies with a daedra.
She had contact with some other spirit in the veil we know nothing about.

>>50430370
Because Female Nords are taller than average height.

>>50424423
If anything wood-elves are Slavs.
Weird, violent , backstabbing , squatting in the woods oh and they steal whatever they want.

>>50430051
>Nords are fucking beautiful m8. It's a race full of Thors and David Hasselhoffs.
Eh. Most of them look like Chin Man with an extra chromosome. Not that any race in the games really looks better.
Besides, I'd say I like how Breton Women look more than Nordic women regardless of height. Runa is a qt, though.
>>50430559
Bosmeri men were always the shortest, but they seem to be getting less short in each game. Personally I like the height discrepancy between Bosmer.

>>50430559
>>50431048
Oh, so, Bretons and Imperials are "average," and it's just Nords who are unusual?

>>50431104
Pretty much. Bosmeri women, Argonian women, Redguard Women, Khajiit men, and Dunmer of both genders are also average height, known as 1.

In Morrowind, Nords were the second tallest race, just behind Altmer. Orcs were shorter than Nords.

>>50417751
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Exegesis_of_Merid-Nunda

>eso warning

>>50423872
Worship sanguine and party all the time.

>>50431025
Probably first one

>A NEW HAND touches my clitoris

>>50423872
Magnus would be a huge one, since I'd want to be a mage.

Dibella and Mara seem nice, as well as Phynaster and Y'ffre if I'm a Breton.

>>50424423
Nords have several cultural influences from vikings to germans to baltic people who are at least somewhat slavic, to scots in morrowind with the accents and the Woad Paint and even hungarians in skyrim in the name of Farkas which im fairly sure is Hungarian (vilkas beeing something from the baltic languages if im not wrong)

Races in TES dont directly relate to a real life people and you shouldnt make that mistake. Nordic burial traditions are positiveley chinese to name one aspect.

As for a direct Slavic pendant the closest you get is Colovians, see Rislav Larich for a very slavic name, even tho the game is mostly known for its Badlore, if you check out oblivions names for norhtern imperials you will find quite a few slavic sounding names in Colovians.

Either way dont listen to people saying "X TES race is just Y", especialy not if "Y" is "Vikings".

>>50427222
There are theories that the Ayleids bird obsession comes either from these natives or that those bird people were in fact the Ayleids, tho the later theory is generaly considered the more boring one and thus discounted.

>>50431078
>Wood Elves
That would require them to be anything other than cavemen tho.
Bosmer simply lack the architectural, technical and industrial skill to even resemble any modern culture.

>>50425619
she also made the khajiit. That alone makes her based.

>>50423872
Talos. A man so powerful and awesome he ascended to godhood? How do you not worship him?

>>50430796
;_; fucking todd

>>50432112
>;_;
Don't.

>>50432107
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>>50432107
>How do you not worship him?
By worshipping the Tribunal.

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>>50423872
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.

>>50423872

I would follow Hircine, hunt wild Beasts and impress cute Bosmer chicks.

Azurah and her "sisters" are just too much work. (But okay if you stay loyal i guess)

I mean Meridia seems "good" but is just angry all the time.

And Nocturnal has assburgers.

Sheo & Sanguine are more fun than i could handle.

Pery is nurgle-lite.

The other Daedra are dicks. And Aedra are too passive.

>>50431104

Are you a goddamned fool or just a troll? Nords are the tallest human race in every ES game. Why would you consider them to be 'average'?

>>50432271
>he doesn't want to put salt in the jarl's sugar jar in the name of Mehrunes Dagon

>>50431492
>Her clit is a dick
Fucking Daedra.

>>50417751
I find it weird that she is friends with Ayleids, as many of the sorceror kings like to use necromancy a lot

>>50432167
>nihilism

Why are Nords in the game always represented by a Female Nord when in the History of Nords the women haven't done much? Nearly every Nord king of note was a male, from the First Empire of the Nords to High Kings.

>>50434135
Well it's pretty hard to be a king when you're a woman.

>>50434135
>Why are Nords in the game always represented by a Female Nord
What.

>>50434135
What's the matter? Afraid of the sight of a strong, Nordic woman?

What happens in Atmora?

>>50434299
Quite literally nothing.

>>50423872
Vivec

I can never not love a philosopher poet with superpowers trying and failing to keep his dick head friends from fucking everything up.

>>50431025
>consulting with illicit spectra
She fell in love with Lorkhan.

>>50432271
>Meridia
She has some real grief issues.

>>50434135
>

>>50432107
>Talos
>A man
Learn your lore, scrub

>>50432277
Re-read that post again, champ.

>>50432119
;_;

>>50434135
That's probably because Nord men keep being idiots and have a bad habit of dying
That may be why they can have so many wives

>>50434135
Sai loves them Nordic girls.

>>50434725
To be fair he was a man, as well as two other men.

>>50433380
It's a meme.

>>50435429
Dude he was like seven men, a few of whom were also either each other or Shor

>>50435520
More like he was three people, and one of those people is one of many reincarnations of Shor.

To say Talos is all seven of those people is like saying that since Sheogorath is a Padomayic Sithis shaped hole mantled Pelinel that Wulfharth is literally Sheogorath and therefore Talos is Sheogorath.

Yeah, they are inseparable entities, but when I'm talking about one figure and how he came to be, specifically Talos, I'm referring to the recreation of convention, not the Sheogorath shit.

>>50434725
>>50435429
>>50435520
>>50435699
>Believing heretical rumours

Bet you all think Jesus really had a kid with Mary magdalene and the catholic church are covering it up don't you?

>>50435866
>everywhan_eez_hereteec.png

>>50416952
Wait, I thought Elder Scrolls was a video game? There's a tabletop version as well?

why did sotha sil build the clockwork city and what did he use it for?
Did he acomplish anything notable with his godhood or gears?

>>50435939
Not an official one, but there are several unofficial systems that are pretty good.

>>50435939
Yep. Two, even. One's called Scrollhammer, the other is UESRPG.

If you ever feel like playing, I'm down for it.

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>>50435939
Unofficial only.
Though with how Zenimax is treating the licence these days, I wouldn't be surprised if something official came out sooner or later.

There's a lot of projects in various stages of completion, but the two big ones are:

UESRPG, which is getting it's third edition, is a p&p rpg and the project that has the biggest following. Pretty polished for a homebrew, has several supplements. Now if I could only find a group that didn't fall apart.

Scrollhammer, skirmish-scale wargame inspired by Infinity amongst other things. Gets infrequent updates, but has a pretty large amount of content by now. Which I've also been meaning to play more of come Christmas time.

The majority of this thread is loreposting.

>>50433367
Not all ayleids worshipped the same gods.

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So this has been something that has been nagging at me for a while and I was wondering if this was ever covered in the lore outside the games.

When the end of the kalpa comes, does Sovngarde experience and event like Ragnarok? Where the Nord warriors go out to battle someone alongside Shor? And if so, is it really the final battle, or simple the first battle?

Since Alduin resets time at the end of a kalpa back to Convention, does that mean the Nord dead actually become soldiers in that first war between Lork and Aka? Does Talos then exist as a separate entity?

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>>50435866
>He actually believes that Talos was an Atmoran who just randomly achieved CHIM.

>>50435949
He was hacking into Nirn and giving birth to Memory.

>>50436180
Yeah.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor-full

>>50435949
I believe he founded the Psijiic order, or was at least an important part of it.
He once gangbanged Almalexia with clones of himself.
I'm pretty sure he made a backup copy of the universe.
He decided legs were overrated and replaced them.
He was totally chill with ash skin and red eyes.
He's Trainwiz's waifu.
Those are all pretty notable things.

>>50436310
He was just a member of the Order.

>>50436220
>https://www.imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor-full
That answered like a quarter of what I asked.

Do the souls of Sovngarde become part of Shor's war? Will Talos play a role in this war?

>>50437399
That's all we've got on it. Probably not.

>>50437399
Maybe?
Maybe?

Talos is the "one new thing" this kalpa. Too bad there isn't going to be a next kalpa.

That text is enough of an answer for both of those questions.

>>50436092
I should get on updating that.

>>50437506
What's planned for Scrollhammer?
By the way, that change to the armour rules is great, it was really needed.

>>50437432
Sorry, I mixed that up. Talos is the Dragonborn God, "the first new god of this cycle."

There's also "one new thing" every kalpa, but they might not be the same.

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>>50437532
I've been wanting to make a Dwemer ruin dungeon-delving special scenario for a while now, ala old board games or Space Hulk. One player would put together a dungeon party and have to achieve X objectives while the other keeps getting more Dwemer Centurions or whatever to throw around inside. Would take a lot of balancing and tuning, so I haven't started on that yet. Could see something similar for Falmer.

Right now I'm going to get started on Witchmen of the Reach. Might poke at some of the standard scenarios while I'm at it. Dagoth Guy left some notes for them so that makes the task easier.

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>>50437658
That sounds pretty cool. Reminds me of an old fantasy homebrew I never finished that had Spacehulk-inspired rules and randomly generated dungeons.

>>50437658
That's pretty cool.

>>50432354
Is this how the Mythic Dawn started?

>>50437926
By the time they were assassinating the Emperor, Mankar realized the prank had gone too far.

WABBAJACK!!

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>>50437963

>>50438237
That was fast.

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>>50438354
I'm working at the speed of memes.

>>50437658
That's a pretty cool idea, but I think it would work better with draugr infested nordic ruins, don't you think so?

>>50439319
Naw, you get more variety in Dwemer ruins, plus the atmosphere is closer to a ship.

>>50439319
Dwemer ruins would allow for more complex/varied traps.

>>50439448
Nordic ruins have better puzzles though.

>>50439553
Yeah, but...we're not talking about the video game.

>>50439576
You should incorporate animal turning stones and dragon claws anyway.

>>50439602
>animal turning stones and dragon claws
>puzzles

>>50439623
Well, like I said, we're not talking about the video game.

Those elements can be made better and more complex in tabletop format.

>>50439553
I don't think I've ever seen puzzles in a wargame format. Not sure how it would work.
Maybe the "defending" player gets to decide the particular configuration of puzzles and traps, or you run it like a campaign with a third party GM. Either way it's strange, though not necessarily bad if implemented correctly.

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>Skyrim Dunmer sound like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins
>Dick Van Dyke sings a song in said movie whose lyrics included CHIM CHIMney CHIM CHIMney CHIM CHIM charoo
Deepest lore

>>50439745
Problem is you'd need a third party arbitrator to judge that a puzzle is doable, or a list of supported puzzles that would become memorable.

Completing the puzzle would probably just mean picking up an objective with a miniature and/or free equipment like potions and whatnot. Maybe a weapon upgrade. Iunno.

>>50439825
The puzzles could be a set of modular pieces.

>>50439319
>>50439448
>>50439553
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>>50439623
>>50439665
>>50439745
>>50439825
>>50439850
Tfw your meme shitpost actually started a decent discussion.

To add something worthwhile to it, I think that puzzles should either be modular, or have a fixed solution. Like, the player controlling "the monsters" will probably draw them from some kind of card deck or something like that, so there could be puzzles he can place in there, with solutions on the backside of the card or something, so he can't cheat.

>>50439850
That's true, it's just a question of how to make it work and be interesting. A simple 'hurr, rotate the triangles until the lever works' or similar puzzle probably wouldn't be that amusing without some kind of time constraint or something.

Or maybe I'm just mistaken, and a handful of lizards standing around in a tomb rotating stones would be thematic enough.

>>50439937
With Dwemer ruins the possibilities are pretty much endless, from holograms and GPS cubes to a simple password.

>>50439962
Dwemer, yeah.

>>50439825
>a list of supported puzzles that would become memorable
That's my problem too, because that's the only real way to do it.
You can't really support total freedom. You'd need a finite amount of possibilities with a reasonable level of difficulty, and then it might just turn into a situation where whoever has memorised the most puzzle modules has the upper hand.

I could see it work in two ways:
In a "dungeon raid" scenario, the defending player gets to pick a puzzle from a list of modules, perhaps with certain allowed alterations. I don't think this adds a lot to the game in terms of solving the puzzle, but it might be fun to actually complete it. Like it's not hard to figure out that you have to mess around with certain levers, but fighting to get to all of them changes the tactics a bit.

In a campaign scenario, a GM could make the battle objective locked behind a puzzle, and the players have the option of trying to rush the puzzle and steal the objective to win rather than fight the enemy outright. But I don't know how likely a "campaign scenario" is for Scrollhammer.

It's more of a gamemode and tactics change than a puzzle outright, in that it would be more about doing it than figuring it all out.

>>50439937
Why sort of braindead retard just turns shit till it works? The puzzles aren't that hard.

That said, traps should be far more lethal.

>>50440067
>Why sort of braindead retard just turns shit till it works?
When it wasn't blatantly obvious what the correct answer was (i.e. written on the wall on plaques) I'd occasionally just go by feel and get it open in a few moments.

>>50439772
too bad it's pronounced kim

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>>50440308

>>50440364
MK clarified that like, a decade ago.

>>50440396
but according to eso it's pronounced chim like chimney

>>50440823
When is it ever said in ESO?

>>50440882
it's said when referencing the elder scroll of CHIM

>>50440955
That's probably completely unrelated to anything that actually has to do with CHIM.

>>50441010
It's still the same word though

>>50440955
>ESO
What a surprise.
I have no doubt they pronounce Chimer as in chimney as well.

>>50441087
Not necessarily. Or, at least, I wouldn't put a lot of stock into it.

It's actually said by a character in the game?

>>50441123
...wait, is it khy-mer or kim-mer? Or key-mer?

>>50441143
Khy.

>>50441123
Actually pronunciation is all over the place. Scholar-characters call them KHY-mer, but the uneducated, unwashed masses call them anything from chimmer to 'damn ghosts'

>>50440823
You mean according to ESO's PvP area, which has been considered noncanon even by the playerbase.

>>50441360
The context is important in determining what is and is not canon. The PvP stuff is largely gameism over lore, hence why people don't consider stuff there canon. There's no reason to doubt a word's pronunciation. That said I'm going to continue pronouncing it as chim regardless of supporting or detracting evidence because kim doesn't make sense and sounds stupid.

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>>50441143
Chi (Ki) means Change
Chim (Kim) means Royalty

You might as well say Chim as it's spelt still, so long as you know the Lore version

>>50441468
>Doesn't make sense
The person who invented it, who is also the only person to ever write about it, ever, said it was pronounced like "kim."

"Chim" sounds just as dumb as "Kim." At least Kim sounds like it could be an actual occult phrase.

>>50441566
it sounds like a that bitch from accounting

>>50441616
And Chim sounds like >>50439772

>>50440823
ESO pronounces it like that because ESO doesn't how to pronounce it.

>>50441643
Oh they do, since it pronounced correctly in the PvE areas in Morrowind. I still think they had a separate team working on the PvP aspect that only had a rudimentary grasp of the lore and were told to make a wargame out of it.

>>50441566
What about rhyming it with time?

>>50441894
That's possible. "All language is based on meat" and all.

>>50441894
Because that's the stuff in your intestines.

>>50439962
That's because dwemer ruins are always the best.

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So are Khajiit Mer or Beast?

>>50443085
Mer.

There is no such thing as "beast" men. That's just a misc. label.

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>>50443085
This man had it right when dealing with Khajiit

>>50443085
Beast who were once Mer.

I wanna start a campaign that takes place in Tamriel, and throughout the campaign travels across the entire continent.
Having a hard time coming up with a not boring reason to travel across all of Tamriel for a long ass campaign. Only decent thing I've come up with is attempt to find and destroy/contain all known Dadreic artifacts

Any ideas for a plot or some cool plot devices would be very much appreciated

>>50444714
Have one of those rogue mining AIs going haywire and the players have been hired to stop it. Or maybe it's already trying to take over the Empire or Dominion.

>>50444758
I also kinda wanna play to the theme of the group being the "chosen ones" in a sense, kinda like Morrowind mostly, but I dig the idea

>>50444789
Take notes from how Morrowind does it then, it's the most nuanced of the series in that regard. Would everyone in the group be the chosen one?

There were a few (as of yet) unused plot hooks in the PGE3 that you could look at for inspiration, but that would depend on when you want to set the game. Or you could do something like what almost happened to Valenwood after the Oblivion Crisis, where it's overrun by a massive Wild Hunt and sealed off.

>>50444823
My idea for how they would all be chosen ones, would there would be a proficy or something along those lines saying a group of heros would save the day. And thanks for the leads

>>50444823
Also want the game to take place about 30-40 years after Skyrim, so if the dovakiin does make an appearence, he'll be a shitty old fart, but the conflict between the empire, storm cloaks, and thalmor could still be relevant but also have developed

>>50444915
>In Skyrim, EEC trade lines are being disrupted and the flow of wasabi to the province has stopped
There's a hook to really rile up the jarls.

Decent lore podcast for the lorebeards here, lot of episodes already out too.

https://www.youtube.com/user/memospore/videos

>>50445108
Most lorebeards are probably already subbed, since that's where we had that sweet ARG a few years back

I asked this over on /v/ but no-one answered properly. Feels bad man.


Why haven't the Thalmor pushed Malacath back through Boethiah's shitter to get Trinimac back?

The lie that 'consumed' Trinimac is the same one they hold as the truth, so getting back the warrior god who cut out Lorkan's heart seem like a good idea to me.

>>50444789
Have them serve a Colovian warlord. Some local nut gets it in his mind he deserves to be emperor so he's getting anyone that can swing a sword or sling a spell into an army he's building with the family fortune to conquer surrounding territories and press the locals into service to give him a proper sized fighting force to take the Imperial City. The players can be part of this ragtag army, for whatever reason they have. During one campaign that may involve burning down an orc stronghold(and recruiting survivors) players can get the chosen one shpiel(prophet NPC telling them, vision from a god, or any sort of metaphysical reality fuckery you want). Then the quest to save Nirn can involve you moving along with the army; you need to travel to a lot of different places on the continent so it's one part convincing the warlord to go where you need to go(because an army of swords around you will make the journey easier), all the while securing important points and location for the warlord to play into a secondary, more 'down-to-earth' sidequests.

>>50443085
Racist cyborg of elf slaying only killed some before stopping so they're 30% worth killing.

From what i understand about Landfall,elves and man get erased,dunmer and khajit escape to moons,redguards escape to oblivion and become cyborgs,and i think hist survives.

What happens to orcs,sload or akaviri?

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So is the mantella an all around multi-purpose battery or is it only to power the numidium, what are the possibilities?

>>50441566
You're supposed to pronounce it with your throat, like German of Arabic

>>50443085
beast

>>50448239
The Mantella is far more than just a battery.

Just thought I'd let everyone ITT know that there's an Elder Scrolls quest about Ayleids on /qst/ at the moment that's in its second thread.

>>50417168
That's great, I'm playing the game right now as an alchemist and my GM is worried I will abuse this too much (I won't). Are there any changed to Alchemy? I'll admit it took a bit of time for me to understand how Alchemy works and desu the cost of spells is infuriating since you can't make a poor potion using poor ingredients (because even if the spell cost is 10 you need +1 to turn it into potion)

>>50448561
German "Ch" is definitely not from the throat, nor is the the German "G"
Both come from the palate

Arabic does come from the throat however

>>50449674
german "ch" in "Krach" "Bach" or "lachen" comes from the throat
-t. german

>>50448974
Alchemy is getting revamped and rebalanced along with the rest of magic.

>>50441123
>CHIM

I pronounce it as you would pronounce "Chimp", there is as far as i know no "right" or "wrong" pronounciation of CHIM since CHIM is EHLNOFEX and thus not a real wrd but a moving twisting symbol meaning depicting Royalty.

This is why its written in ALLCAPS, because its not supposed to be a word you say with your mouth.

>>50449737
Native German speaker, the "ch" in Krach does not come form the throat what the shit? It comes from the mouth.

Just listen to any fucki

>>50446755
How are they supposed to force 2 deadric princes to do anything?

>>50446755
>let me just sodomize this incomprehensibly powerful being with another incomprehensibly powerful being
>there is no way this can backfire on me

>>50450487
I don't speak German but it seems like this person is referring to [χ] also found in Welsh and Scottish Gaelic. That's the voiceless uvular fricative. It's not articulated in the throat, but it's pretty far into the mouth, hence the confusion.

>>50446755
>Why haven't the Thalmor pushed Malacath back through Boethiah's shitter to get Trinimac back?
Is this a troll physics guide for infinite food?

>Malacath was created when Boethiah ate the Altmeri ancestor spirit, Trinimac, although Malacath himself says that this tale is far too "literal minded".
Even the Prince of the Spurned doesn't like being called a poop-deity.

>>50451038
>Why haven't the Thalmor
I really wish they'd just go back to the Morrowind era, when this wasn't being written fast and loose to sell copies.

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>According to legend, the dung Boethiah excreted became Malacath. The followers of Boethiah and Trinimac rubbed this excrement on themselves to change their skins.

I discover new lore every day...

Which Tamriel race is closest to being Finnish? I want to praise Tengri.

>>50451201
Bosmer.

>>50451213
but Valenwood isn't a frozen hellhole, and the Bosmer always lose.

>>50451228
>frozen hellhole
It's a sweltering hellhole, and the latter is the most important.

>the Bosmer always lose
Like the Finns.

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>>50423872
TALOS
A
L
O
S

>>50451165
There's a reason Orcs are called shitskins anon.

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>>50424423
I wouldn't mind if they had a bit more of a Slavic/Rus overtone

>>50446755
How does that further the 'end the world' endgoal they have?

>>50451416
Trinimac is basically the god of elven strength and unity.

>>50451201
When were the finns tengrists?

>>50451498
was*

>>50451538
I don't think you know how religions work, anon.

>>50451316
Boethia needs to change his diet if his shit is green.

>>50451498
The Altmer believe he's ded.

>>50451532

Probably never.

>>50451498
For the Altmer. Not the Bosmer or the Khajiit. So they sure as hell wouldn't care.

>>50448239
It might also be the connector to create the circuit needed to move energy through everything.

Has anyone else tried that Doors of Oblivion mod for Morrowind? Been playing it a bit and it's seems good so far, haven done much tho

>>50445011
>wasabi must flow.

>>50451549
I don't think you know how they work in TES anon...

>>50453618
I don't think you know how it works either, anon.

>>50447565
We only know what happens to the Dunmer and Khajiit, that thing about Redguards is a fan concept. Just FYI.

We have no clue about what happens to anyone else.

>>50454401
I don't think any of us know how it works, anon.

>>50454544
I don't think.

>>50454700
I don't

>>50454711
I

>>50454750
am a man of constant sorrow.

>>50454750

>

¨

The ending of the

>>50454700
>>50454711
>>50454750
>>50454756
>>50454780
>>50454800
>>50455157
>>50455218
I feel like we accomplished something here

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>>50455310
I mean, we don't know what happens to any other potential survivors. Altmer are long gone.

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Thank Alkosh I can vent over Memospore.
>be cats (naturally)
>life is pretty okay, got no real issues with mortality
>lorkhaj kind of fucked up, but this is better than the alternative
>nirni is a cunt, but we're azurah's chosen
>fucking elves can't accept that life is life
>fucking elves build a giant robot avatar of their metaphysical temper tantrum
>fucking mer and men are consistently cunts
>colonise the sacred moons all by ourselves because someone's gotta keep watch over those
>try to establish moon utopia
>men and mer get into some really fucking stupid shenanigans
>stomp themselves out of existence because they're fucking retarded
>we're okay, we have the moons
>fucking elves and their dumb bullshit follow us here
>most of them won't even learn ta'agra or recognise the mane's authority
Those fucking Dunmer do no deserve to be here, and as far as I'm concerned Landfall was probably their fault in the first place. Let Numidium have them.
Lleswer First.

>>50417168
Are there any premade adventures for UESRPG? I'd try the system but I'm to lazy/inexperienced fuck to make whole adventure by myself.

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>>50456148
>not living by the words of Clam Mother Ahnissi
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_of_Clan_Mother_Ahnissi

>>50456565
I've read that thing so many times I almost know it by heart.

>>50456565
>Clam Mother
Sounds like something vivec fucked in the sermons

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>>50456703
even as a euphemism it works fine. Khajiit are renown sluts

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So, with a 3rd edition of UESRPG coming, how many of you are looking forward to it and looking to run games for it?

>>50456965
>Khajiit are renown sluts
That isn't how you spell Dunmer, Anon.

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>>50456238
That's something we're looking into for 3e, actually, since we have a much larger team. But the answer currently is no.

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>>50457104
They both are.

>>50457158
Damn, I just asked this in the subreddit too!

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>>50457104
Slutiness is part of Khajiit culture
It's only on the 'DL' that hormonal Dunmer are cum-gargling sluts. Even before they're fertile

>>50457094
I would but I've never DM'd before, so it would probably go to hell really quickly.

If a game gets started, I'll happily join, though.

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>>50457222
To be fair, the age of consent in Tamriel is more than likely much lower than in real life.

>>50457222
The Real Barenizah actually says all elves are sluts and generally for only a few years after adolescence.

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>>50457576
I'm going to need you to elaborate.

>>50457651
>Barenziah cocked her head to one side quizzically. "They say dark elf women are pro- pro- something. Prostitutes?"

>"You mean promiscuous, although some do become prostitutes, I suppose. Elf women are promiscuous when they're young. You'll outgrow it. Perhaps you're beginning to already," Katisha said hopefully.

They also aren't fertile until age 18 or 19, unless there's a lot of human men in the mix.

>>50457576
I'd imagine that Dunmer are just especially that way, considering the way Jokes paints them, as well as the fact that they worship the Daedric prince of Sex and Murder.

>>50456965
>Khajiit are renown sluts
Source.

>>50457790
The manifesto of a Khajiit terrorist organization tells you to fuck everybody.

>>50457790
>>50457816
Not to mention they worship Sanguine. Culturally speaking they tend to be more casual about sex.

>>50457722
I think Jokes is more of a meta-joke towards the Real Barenziah in general, some of its scenes regarding Barenziah in particular.
Anyways Symmachus basically tells Barenziah that the idea that Elves are all promiscuous isn't really true, and like with normal people, it depends on the person.

A Less Rude song and some other nitbits, however, imply that Morrowind-Dunmer, Telvanni in particular, tend to have weird fetishes.

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>>50457684
Thanks for the excerpt, anon.

>>50457816
Not that they're the best of sources.
The Renrijra Krin brand themselves as "The Smiling Scum", they're very much trying to sell the "fuck it, let's be rad terrorists" idea. It's a bit like looking at an ISIS recruitment video focusing on how rad Raqqa is, and how you can just get as many fuckslaves as you like.

Not saying Khajiit aren't more open about that sort of thing, I just don't take most of what the Renrijra Krin claim too seriously. I mean, Khajiit also supposedly find bare chests to be public indecency, so it's not like they're entirely libertine.

>>50457837
Khajiiti relationship to the Daedra is weird, and we have some contradictory sources on it. But sure, they recognise and probably worship Sangiin as a god of urges.

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>>50457964
"Ah," Therris said. "Payment first, sweet thing." He put an arm around her, leaned over and kissed her, thrusting his tongue deep into her mouth and his free hand into her shirt.

"Nice," he said presently, withdrawing his tongue, but not his hand. His other hand slid down inside her waistband and fondled her buttocks.

"Let's go upstairs. We can use my room," Barenziah felt both embarassed and excited by his boldness.

Therris grinned insolently. "Why bother? You want me, don't you? I'll bet you'd pay me, wouldn't you?"

"No," Barenziah said. She did want him, but not that badly.

"No? Well, a bargain's a bargain and Therris keeps his word. But here. Now." He hiked her skirt up and pulled her onto his lap so she sat astride, facing him. He opened her shirt and pulled it down on her shoulders so that her breasts were exposed.

"Nice pair, kid." She was facing the wall but she could feel the stares of the other patrons. A hush had fallen over the place. Even the bard had stilled. She felt both nausea and a hot burning desire. Her hands released his turgid penis and then it was inside her and she was screaming in both pain and ecstasy. Then everything went black.

When she came to herself again she was sitting beside Therris, who was buttoning her shirt.

"That hurt!" she said indignantly.

"Always does, kid. Didn't anyone ever tell you about Khajiit men? It hurts good though, now doesn't it?"

Barenziah scowled at him. She was still smarting. His penis had tiny little barbs on it.

"Well, the deal's off, if you like," he shrugged.

"No, I didn't say that. Only I prefer privacy, and I want to wait awhile, like a day or so before the next time."

What is the average life of a Breton? Do they receive a formal education? Is it as comfy (or boring) as one may think?

>>50458080
That's just superfluous.

>>50458116
If you have any magical talent, or are noble birth, it can be pretty comfy to maximum comfy.

Otherwise there's a good chance you're SOL. Wandering murder-hobo knight-aspirant at best.

>>50458116
Depends. If you have magical aptitude, you go to the Mages Guild, get a free education, and live a life of opulence with the magical elite.

If you don't, you can either join a temple or become a craftsman and live fairly well, or be a destitute peasant and farm. Youths of all classes seem to adventure a lot, This "quest-obsession," more than anything, has served as High Rock's sense of national identity, a peculiar form of altruism and mutual reliance that binds its people together.

>>50458223
Should also be mentioned that most/many children were tested for magical ability at a very young age. The Mages Guild was pretty all-pervasive in High Rock while it existed.

>>50458223
>completely neglects the mercantile aspect of Breton life

>>50458223
Interesting! What determines magical aptitude? Is it the stars or genetics (assuming genetic principles in TES work the same way as in reality) that determine magical aptitude? Can one with little magical ability improve his abilities to a level of competency?

>>50458252
How is the test conducted? In what text is this test mentioned?

>>50458301
>>50458319
No idea, I don't think it was ever explicit. Probably a combination of their birthsign and how easily they can learn/cast very simple spells.

I'm sure there's also other methods.

>>50458319
Also, good old Pocket Guide to the Empire.
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/pocket-guide-empire-first-edition-high-rock

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>Youths of all professions and trades in High Rock spend their free time in knightly pursuits, real and imagined
>Full of non-athletic, yet high INT people who are prone to being wizards.
>Extra lewd stories, people barely wear clothes.

>Mfw Highrock is /tg/, the province.

>>50458116
Common Bretons come in two varieties:
>Repressed dirtfarmer
>Common labourer
The Breton culture is very much one that's designed to prohibit social movement, with nobles clinging onto their hills as much as they can. When change happens, it's often violent, a temporary breakdown of the system as old nobles get thrown out, new hills are claimed, and then it all grows rigid again.
It's not just the case that everyone's trying to move on up, those on top are actively trying to repress those below them.
Luckily there's a decent city-dwelling merchant class in a lot of the cities, so you might try to get into that. If nothing else works out, you might do what many young Bretons do, which is pick up your belongings and wander, be it as trader or mercenary.

Education comes down to what you can afford or how lucky you are. Unless you're rich enough to buy a tutor or skilled enough to get into a guild, you probably just learn whatever job your parent had. In terms of magic, the guilds are something for Bretons that live in cities, or at least a town. The rural equivalent is traditional covens.

>>50458301
Stars would probably play a huge part in it, but I'd imagine things like Intelligence and Willpower would be the huge deciding factors as well.

As for if you could improve your magical aptitude, yes. You could work on your ability to cast spells, your Intelligence and Willpower, etc. and join the guild later in life.

>>50458439
I'd rather learn about Knightly Orders

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>>50458486
Wait until I'me done with my finals.

What is the spookiest aspect of TES lore?

>>50458919
So many to choose from. The Sixth House, Necromancy, Tales and Tallows, The fact that ESO might be canon, The Ideal Masters.

>>50459080
From those I think the Ideal Masters are spookiest

>>50459551
I can't say I agree. I mean, the Ideal Masters are spooky for what they do, sure, but I'd rather be put in front of a purple crystal than a Dagoth or one of those faceless motherfuckers beyond the Ghostfence.

>>50459759
Nah, I think he's right about long term.

A Dagoth will kill you, an Ideal Master will torment you until the Kalpa ends.

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>>50459080
>ESO might be canon

>>50459804
That's the sort of spooky that requires thinking though.

For immediate shock-value in-your-face-oh-god spoopy Sixth House has about everything beat. I'd least want to open a cabinet and have anything dagoth waiting inside where the bread should be.

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What's canonically the best race for a Paladin type character?

>>50460092
Depends on whom you are paladining for.

>>50460114
Oh fuck you know what I mean

What race has the most paladin-y flavour

>>50460127
Breton.

>>50460092
Breton, play a templar knight.

>>50460191
>>50460165
Thanks senpaitachi

>>50424423
Above all else, Nords are supposed to be North Germanics - mostly Scandinavians with minor visual motifs clearly inspired by Celtic iconography.

Without a doubt the basis for Skyrim was the epic poem Beowulf written by the Germanic Anglo-Saxon immigrants to Britain about a Nordic hero who slays two monsters harassing a mead hall and a dragon

Also the word "Germanic" is very deceptive and denotes far more than the ethnic Germans who live in modern day Germany.

>>50460082
>immediate shock-value in-your-face-oh-god spoopy
Try facing down a Wild Hunt

>>50460584
More oh-god-bear-run than spoopy. I'd make more of a girly noise at an Ash Zombie lurking in the fridge.

>>50460743
>Ash Zombie
Better than one of the doot-doot wizards with the flute worm noses. Creepy fuckers.

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Ending! Words! ALMSIVI!

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Last for the glory that is Meridia.

>>50448754
Can you explain?