/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

First for Thalmor Supremacy

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>>50388703
How many towers have actually fallen?
I mean, how many are confirmed to have fallen?

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>nords are real
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%B0laugur_Fri%C3%B0%C3%BE%C3%B3rsson

>Waking up in Daggerfall
>The revitalizing winds blessed by Kynareth herself
Those poor souls in Wayrest and Evermore will never know this feeling.

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>Mfw 100% Resist Magicka

>>50388791
Crystal-Like-Law, Red Mountain(-ish), Snow-Throat, White-Gold (Maybe), and whatever the one Bosmer one is called (maybe).

>>50389467
Is this image from this Russian who made that made this tripy video with remixed Morrowind theme and everyone's faces changing into one guard repeating the same phrase over and over?

>>50389513
Maybe?

I'm fairly new to trying to understand TES lore, so excuse if I'm talking absolute shite. Anyway, I've read that Landfall is when the Numidium will return to destroy Nirn. Is this still "canon"? Considering how Skyrim is set in the 4th Era, and Landfall is supposed to happen in the 5th, will Bethesda completely ignore it and do a Dr. Who ala change background lore (such as the number of regenerations a Doctor can have) and change it so Landfall can be avoided. I can't see Bethesda going full steam ahead to Landfall.

>>50389584
Not really canon so much as the premise of C0da, which while not technically canon was written by one of the developers.

>>50389584
>will Bethesda
My dad works for Bethesda and he says yes.
How would any of us know? Or, more importantly, why would the main games ever need to mention it?
Consider c0da to be whatever you want it to be. There's no reason for the game series to ever acknowledge it. I don't care about canonicity, others do, and you get to decide how you feel about it.
People like to argue, and hence make a much larger issue out of this than it really is.

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Why was Sotha Sil so autistic compared to the other two?

>>50389685
Because that was just his personality. He's "the Mage." He was the last survivor of his house.

>>50389711
>>50389685
Did he actually do anything for the Dunmer race besides helping Amalexia banish Dagon. I know a God doesn't have to do shit, but he was worshipped but all he seemed to do was sulk about, be a dweaboo and create loads of cool shit.

>>50389723
There are probably a few things. Mostly, though, he build the Clockwork City and gave birth to Memory, which are pretty important.

>>50389723
His selfishness is of the sea.

Help me /tgesg/ my Tribune found my copies of the Mystery of Talara, now I'm sitting outside the Legate's office the worst part is my Legate is an old Breton guy... do I level Sneak to literally sneak out of here or Speech so I can bullshit my way through this?

>>50389803
Tell him you found a hill, or some orcs or something, that should distract him.

>>50389803
If he's a Breton, I'm sure he'll understand.

If not, it might be best if you were to man up, face the music, walk over to him and let him facefuck you, as is tradition in the Legion.

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Why is Raven Rock so comfy?

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Does anybody know what style of government the Aldmeri Dominion has? is it ruled over by a council of powerful mages or something?

>>50389937
Pretty sure its a Fagoracy where only the gayest, dick suckingiest male Elves get to lead.

>>50389857
Because it has that Morrowind aesthetic, but also the Nordic "Log cabin with a fireplace and a warm drink on a cold winter's morning" feeling.

>>50389142
>Waking up in Wayrest
>Have the greatest time ever blessed by Akatosh himself
Truly, I pity the Glenumbrians

>>50390010
>Waking up in Wayrest
Whats it like in the second best city in High Rock behind Daggerfall? Does it hurt, just a little?

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>>50390062
>He thinks getting buttfucked by pirates is better than the Camlorn March of Beauty.

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Buy Morrowind if you don't have it yet.

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>discussing which High Rock city is the least shitty
Any city in Morrowind blows all of High Rock out of the water.

>>50390192
A shit pic for a shitpost. I'm not surprised.

>>50390180
But I already pirated it.

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>>50390222
>he doesn't know about tuskposting

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>>50390229
Buy it, cunt. Be glad I put it on sale.

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I'd like to remind everyone in this thread that you're all my personal little bitch. Go cry some more N'wahs, I'm busy making money, smacking slaves, fucking my girl and side ho, frying S'wits, and smoking Skooma everyday, and all you're doing is stealing Limeware Platters and getting your ass handed to you by me.

t. Melar Baram

Figure I might as well ask here.

Is the MMO worth it for ten dollarydoos?

>>50390313
Anon, I know what tuskposting is. I've been here well before that picture was drawn. I'm saying that it's a shit picture accompanied by a shit post.

>>50390351
I've only played it maybe 3 times since I bought it.

>>50390351
If you like MMO's than sure, in my opinion it's actually one of the better ones out there.

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>>50390332
Sometimes I manage to kill him at level 1 and othertimes I get my ass handed. Usually it's mage characters who are able to face him cause magic is so good in Morrowind.

I really want expanded magic and racial bonuses for the next TES. Give Nords a boost to frost magic so I can play cool cryomancers.

So Potions of Vitality with a vintage of 3E 40 to 60 are the absolute best?

>>50389723
>dweeaboo
using this

tfw no dunmer waifu to give you this face as she says "NOOOOWWW YOU CUM"

Is there a lore-friendly reason Emperor Uriel Septim VII looks different in every game?

>>50391152
You only see him in two games.

>>50391152
dude got older

>>50391152
getting his shit fucked up

>>50391196
Arena, Daggerfall, and Oblivion.

>>50391247
Oh, yeah, he's in the opening live action cinematic of Daggerfall, right?

Is the Imperial Library a collection of books found in the game online or is it TES version of fanfiction.net? Some of the stuff I've seen on there like the trial of Vivec I can't remember seeing anywhere else.

>>50391427
The former. It's a complication of the sources.

There is no fanmade content on the main portions of the site. There are developer texts, and content with developer participation, such as the Trial.

You can find the Trial in other places too, by the way. Just not on the UESP.

How would you make a TES movie and in what era would you set the story?

If the Dunmer are so great why are they always getting conquered by men and beast races?

>>50391586
>conquered
I don't think you know what that word means.

Scrollhammer tonight.

>>50391571
Battlespire, as a action movie.

>>50391825
Shit's like Diehard...in space.

>>50391661
Subjugated? Surrendering? Defeated?

Someone posted their detailed reasoning for Acrobatics getting progressively weaker in games after Morrowind. I believe it was tied to the events of House Redoran and Red Year. Could something similar have happened to explain why magic sucks in Skyrim?

>>50392038
that was a joke about House Redoran valuing 'gravity', not actual lore.

magic sucks in skyrim because Nords are tremendously magophobic and their college is a collapsing shithole situated next to a fully-collapsed shithole.

>>50392038
I think some people connect it to destruction of the Heart of Lorkhan in Morrowind.

Tell me about the Forsworn, /tg/. Are they a proper threat to the Nords, or are they cursed to forever be fantasy jihadis?

>>50392455
I can tell you THE REACH WILL BE OUR'S AGAIN!

>>50391586
They destroy numidium in 5th era and save existence before its fully fucked.

>>50390332
I was born under the Atronach, wizzy boy. You're nothing to me but another walking reservoir of magicka.

>>50392682
Breton with the Atronach sign, anything more anti-magic than that?

>>50390332
Invisibility Spell from Habasi @ the Thieves Guild, or Shadow sign.
Stupidly OP Deadric weapon of choice from Dram Bero.
Fucker drops like a rock.

(But only the second time through, when you understand exactly how the devs set up this dungeon to kill you.)

>>50389480
How did the Snow Throat tower fall? It's only white gold, crystal, and red mountain.

>>50392455
The second option

When you run a campaign set in TES, how much of the deep lore stuff do you actually put in there? Do you mess with stuff like chim, kalpas or The Towers, or do you stick to down to the ground adventuring?

>>50394102
I've read before in other lore threads that the stone is a cave that had collapsed because of the civil war/alduin fuckery

>>50389480
I haven't played Daggerfall or Arena, but what about Adamantine Tower?

>>50394410
So your telling me
> other towers are White Gold Tower (fuckheug old tower), Crystal LIke Law (fuckheug old crystal tower), Red mountain (fuckheug volcano) and...
> a random ass cave. Not the Monahven, world's biggest mountain
Nigga you serious

>>50390332
Why don't i remember this guy. Red pill me?

>>50394710
I had to check that too, he is an enemy in the cave right outside Seyda Neen, possibly the first dungeon of many players. I don't think I ever had any issued with him though, since I don't remember him at all.

>>50394762
Oh ASSALAHJULIRFA or something? What was so unique about that dungeon design? Seemed like a starter cave to me.

>>50394703
Nigga read. He said the stone, not the tower.

>>50394821
It was exactly that, I assume most people remember this mage guy because he was the first hard enemy they encountered. I don't remember him at all though, so I cannot be sure.

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>>50392038
I made that screencap :^)

I hope you didn't take it seriously.

>>50393612
>the devs set up this dungeon to kill you
?

>>50390701
You mean you don't know? The specialized destruction mages only come in certain races.

Many Cryomancers are Nords, but none are Dunmer. Many Pyromancers are Dunmer but none are Nords.

Interestingly, Bretons, Imperials and Altmer can be all of the above, and only Bretons and Altmer can be Archmages.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Fire_Mage
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ice_Mage

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>>50395774
Adding on to this, Altmer are twice as likely to be shock mages, Nords twice as much to be Frost, Dunmer twice as much to be Fire, and Bretons twice as much likely to be Necromancers.

>>50389723
We know he taught, like a ton, and was considered to be the most empathetic of the three.
But in general, he's mystery for a reason.

>>50396310
So is it true a bunch of tumblr people turned on you because you said you didn't like Almalexia (which makes you a misogynist)

>>50395417
I believe the prevailing thought is that cave was deliberately made difficult for level 1 characters so that the player got the "Don't fuck around, we're not holding your hand here," point of Morrowind.

>>50396310
He also is the one who helped the Dunmer accept their new skin and spun it as a blessing instead of a curse correct?

>>50396488
Yeah. Which is was, since now they no longer get called altmer in grocery stores.

>>50395929
I thought Bretons were more likely to be witches

>>50396589
Those are the different types of warlocks/witches you encounter. Bretons are more likely to use Conjuration, which makes sense considering they get the biggest bonus to it.

>>50391427
The Trial of Vivec was a role play on the Bethesda forums by the developers. One of my personal favorites honestly.

>>50396504
I mean, grey skin and red eyes do look cool as fuck

>>50396948
Personally, I'd stick with pale gold skin and jewel colored eyes, but we can agree to disagree.

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I laughed.
Are you legitimately working on a dreamboy mod or were you memeing on the interviewer just to see what you could get away with.

>>50397114
I wasn't kidding. The scripts all work, I just have to make the dreams. It was a resource I released but nobody was good enough to finish it.

>>50397114
What's this?

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>>50397258
You actual absolute madman.
Hope it features sexlab compatibility for the authentic immersive hardcore mode experience.

>>50392038
This is your brain on elder scrolls "deepest lore."

>>50392066
>>50395405
No, I remember something about it too but it wasn't that meme image, there was actual logic behind it

>>50397437
You're just starting to confuse memes with reality, just like everyone else. Embrace it, Anon, the divide between material and memetic is finally breaking down.

>>50397379
Bethesda interviewed twiz

>>50397513
I guess I need to wait for the real weekend, apparently retards like you are still on.

>>50397379
https://bethesda.net/en/article/49kO4HCUnYuwIgayY6A22Y/my-creation-interview-trainwiz

>>50397552
I'll never leave you.

>>50397585
>Kevin

>>50397585
Somebody mirror this shit.

>>50397647
Tried, won't show.

>>50397643
This has been public knowledge for years.

>>50397695
Shut up Kevin.

>>50394410
Nah.

>>50394102
We don't really know, it's just in the prophecy of the Dragonborn.

>>50394379
Go both.

>>50394584
That's still up.

I tried asking the other thread to keep this about lore, but they wouldn't answer.

Are Bound Weapons viable in Skyrim? I want to play a mage who uses swords and bows, and I've heard that Bound Bow is really nice.

What about Mage Armor, with a mod that auto casts it before combat? Or is it better to use robes with armor?

>>50397711
Just saying, not like it's somehow an unknown factor.

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>>50397711

>>50395405
>tfw a redoran gets serious near me and I can feel the gravity of the situation pull me to my knees

This fits too well with normal tes lore

>>50398070
The duel with Bolyn Venim caused the moon to change orbit slightly, and crushed the lungs of several people witnessing it.

>>50398070
"Lighten up will you? Your attitude is killing me"

>>50398137
*Redoran scowling intensifies*

>>50395929
What? Why?

>>50395405
What concepts would the other Great Houses control?

Telvanni: Maybe time? Considering all of the ancient wizards they have.

Hlaalu: Laws of Attraction.

>>50398777
Nah it don't work like that man. They are just Houses. Don't get anything special by virtue of that.


Aside from being the best by being Telvanni.

Aside from no longer existing if you are Hlaalu.

>>50398713
I'd assume as either how cultures view magic, or simply to fill niches. Or maybe something else, you asked a pretty vague question.

>>50398863
Telvanni really are several leagues above the Redoran and Hlaalu. It's that mad science wizard theme. It's just inherently more interesting.

Being an Imperial, in the Imperial Legion using a warhammer feels... wrong.

>>50398926
Seems like a perfectly valid weapon in a world where Heavy Armor is pretty common and can be worn and equipped by anyone.

>>50398890
Telvanni get up to all kinds of interesting bullshit and I love it. I will even grant Redoran have some interesting bits not even counting their cool kickass giant crab house skeleton battle.

But what the hell does Hlaalu have aside from creepy uncle touchy?

>>50399018
Money?

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>>50399018
Having a creepy uncle touchy goes a long way.

>>50399013
but the Empire and Romans, and Romans never used warhammers

>>50388703
Question for the thread.

How would you change/improve/alter the Imperials? I've heard no shortage of complaints about Oblivion's handling of them. So what would you have liked to have seen?

Personally, I wish their Roman-ess was more Eastern Roman/Byzantine than just "Roman".

>>50399274
Really all I ever hear outside of /tgesg/ is how boring Bretons are

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>>50399249
Skyrim has always been the strongarm of The Empire, so it makes sense that some warriors who don't fight in a phalanx and instead serve to break through shield walls or are simply adventurers by their own merit would use weapons that standard infantry would not use.

>>50399359
Chose the wrong pic, but yeah.

>>50399347
I feel like the Bretons haven't had enough surface weirdness in the games.

Like, there's exciting stuff if you dig, but if you were just sorta playing or whatever, you might never see it.

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>>50399274
I'd start by showing the colovian/nibenese cultural divide in-game, in both the visuals and the story. The nibenese would have more of a traditional roman aesthetic but upgraded to the early/high middle ages. Colovians on the other hand would look more eastern (as in slavic) but with a clear roman base.

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>>50399274
I personally don't mind them being Romans, what I mind is how the difference between Colovians and Nibanese is nil.
>>50399347
I see that a lot on Reddit, to the point to where I even think it's a bit of a meme that Breton = Casual.
Really, I don't even think they're that boring, just not strange. The concept of magical druidy warlock humans with elven blood is pretty interesting, along with the concept of a race descended from slaves who, presumably, resist magic because their master used magic are all really creative.
The thing you get in-game is more "French guys who cook great and do magic good too and also Belethor." and what people get from that is "Generic human, boring england, I hate it shortest race worst stealth archers." or "I like playing them."

>>50399428
Huh, any particular reason for Slavic? I admit, I have a fondness for the Byzantines.

>>50399491
I think it would go a long way if...they seemed more druidic/warlock-y. You say French guys? I say French style knights with briar and antlers atop their helmets or some other weird shit.

>>50399491
but only Breton women are short, adorably so.

>>50399540
Them being the race of knights, chivalry and adventurers is what draws me to them.

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>>50399540
Well, that's the thing. I don't think they need to be weird, I think they need to be Wyrd.

I feel that Bretons are weird on a personal level and less of a cultural one.
>"Passionate and eccentric, poetic and flamboyant, intelligent and willful, the Bretons feel an inborn, instinctive bond with the mercurial forces of magic and the supernatural."
Just from that passage I get a feeling of these mercurial artists types, almost like Toreadors from VtM, who are in tune with the laws of un-reality and conform it to their will.
>>50399607
After someone tried their hardest to convince me that Bretons were pathetic and smaller than Bosmer and Nords were the Master Race, I lost a little bit of faith in how casuals view lore. It almost makes me ashamed that I was once a Nordfag who got upset at the prospect that Hjalti was a Breton.

And yes, they are adorable. And the Knight adventurer thing is a huge part for me as well.

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>>50399274
Nibeneans for the most part Hellenistic-Byzantine and Colovians a throw up between Romans and the Germanic cultures that succeeded them. Though this is just a generalization. I honestly hate citing definite inspiration.
If I were actually given free rein to design Cyrodiilic culture I would steal little bits and pieces from all sorts of cultures and even other fantasy settings, and then I would add on my own shit because it's fucking fantasy.

>>50399428
>Nibenese
>Traditional Roman

>By contrast, the Eastern people of Cyrodiil relish in garish costumes, bizarre tapestries, tattoos, brandings, and elaborate ceremony. Closer to the wellspring of civilization, they are more given to philosophy and the evolution of ancient traditions. The Nibenese find the numinous in everything around them, and their different cults are too numerous to mention (the most famous are the Cult of the Ancestor-Moth, the Cult of Heroes, the Cult of Tiber Septim, and the Cult of Emperor Zero). To the Colovians, the ancestor worship and esoteric customs of the East can often be bizarre. Akaviri dragon-motifs are found in all quarters, from the high minaret bridges of the Imperial City to the paper hako skiffs that villagers use to wing their dead down the rivers. Thousands of workers ply the rice fields after the floodings, or clear the foliage of the surrounding jungle in the alternate seasons. Above them are the merchant-nobility, the temple priests and cult leaders, and the age-old aristocracy of the battlemages. The Emperor watches over them all from the towers of the Imperial City, as dragons circle overhead.

>>50399783
>tattoos
>you'll never see tattoos of the Divines in the style of Orthodox iconic art in Elder Scrolls

were Bretons perma-cucked by the Direnni, or is there something I'm missing?

>>50397592
A curse as is a boon.
For you people we depend to bump the thread.

>>50399018
Glass sharps implanted into their foreheads.

>>50399662
>A cute, petite Breton knight will never protect you

>>50399018
Ra'Athim

>>50400493
Shards*

>>50400357
That would be sort of like saying that black slaves were cucked by white slave owners. It wasn't something that happened way too much, and it wasn't really cuckolding so much as fucking, not normally with consent due to slavery, a house slave (normally female) because the spouse wouldn't fuck you or for the even more deranged, just a form of domination.
Funny enough, most American blacks have somewhere around 20% white genes, varying from region to region. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that it's similar for Bretons.

>>50400521
I think sharps could probably work, it give the image of a Hlaalu having his head dunked into a biohazard bag filled with used needles.

>>50400536
High Rock Elves would collect human harems

>>50400566
Really? Where is this mentioned?

>>50400493
>You will never have a Breton Spellsword duel you and help your form and incantations.
>You will never fluster a qt bard after you compliment her singing.
>You will never have a deep discussion over metaphysics with a bookish mage girl.
>You will never get a glass of water and a blanket for a petite sorceress after she too big of a rip off the grav-bong.
Why live?

>>50400674
This is sobering.

Tell me about Kynareth. She sounds nice.

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>>50400674
>fluster a qt bard after you compliment her singing.
>Hey, you know that thing you do for a living? You're pretty good at it.
>b-baka

Redpill me on Reman.

>>50401578
One of the few aedra who gave a shit. Helped mortals a lot. Liked Trees and Birds too.

>>50401727
>liked to jizz on corpses
>2debauched4sanguine
>died from a morag tong inflicted papercut

>>50401727
Which one

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>>50400566

Do they Hist have a plan for anything? Or are they just content chiling around.

>>50395774
>>50395929
Alright, but it's not really something that game mechanics support, except for Breton necromancers and Altmer/Dunmer destruction mages. Nords aren't better at frost magic than other races.

>>50397804
I'm kinda on the fence if it comes to mage armor but bound weapons are GOAT, especially if you get the mystic binding perk, it's only level 20 and greatly increases power.

Tell me about the Maormer /tgesg/. Have they done anything interesting or noteworthy? I've just been battling a few in ESO and been wondering if this is their only apperance/mention.

>>50402125
Everything canon about the Maormer is from non-ESO sources.

Any must read books in skyrim?

Personal favorites?

>>50402491
Everything by Ted Peterson
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/General:Ted_Peterson

>>50402125
Have you already done the quest on Kharnesti root or something like that? The small Khajiit Island? There are some interesting Maormer bits in there.

>>50389480
>>50394410

Thanks, my n'wah! Was just curious. TES is one of those things I got into late but which I really got to love the lore for, even if it does fuck with my head with all the shit about CHIM, Amaranth, Vivec's Spear and so forth.

>>50400674
>You are a Knight of the Dragon
>You do live in Daggerfall and worship Kynareth
Feels great to be honest, like I could go out kill some pirates, fight some Redguards for control of the Illaic Bay and then join in destroying the Orisinium as a team building exercise.

>>50401614
Not all Bards sing, anon.

>>50401578
She's the patron God of healers and nature. Rain is her tears over the loss of Shor, and she loves humans, particularly Nords.

She's the goddess of winds, and is associated with travelers. She is evoked at birth so as to be born under auspicious stars.

>>50389937
What the fuck is this

>>50402082
Yes, they do.

>>50401578
She is Meridia.

>>50404542
What is their plan then?

>>50404840
Crashing this plane, with no survivors.

>>50404840
Some sort of anti-Amaranth thing.

>>50404865
Could you explain further on that? I'm new to TES lore so this went over my head.

>>50404879
Which part?

That's actually the more or less extent of what we know, it's only been mentioned as briefly as that.

>Antithesis
>Set in a Hist

>>50404891
What is Amaranth?

>>50404900
When a new Godhead is formed.

>>50400604
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/bretons-mongrels-or-paragons

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>>50405057
>ESO
Alright, I was thinking it might be from one of the actual games.

>>50405143
It's one of the better ESO texts. It makes a fair amount of sense and for the most part I consider it canon.

>>50405186
I'm not entirely opposed to ESO, but until I get some more confirmation that it is canon, I don't give any thought to the texts.

>>50405234
The eso twitter said eso is canon, and nothing else has said it's not canon

>>50405259
Frankly, this isn't even up for debate. The debate was never even scheduled to begin.

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>>50405259
>The eso twitter said eso is canon

>>50405329
Which is why I added the second part of my comment.

>>50405259
So if I post on twitter that my fanfiction is canon, it's canon until someone says otherwise?

>>50405368
I already dealt with you're dumb ass in tesg.
Look back in the archives if you want my responses to your failure of logic.

>>50401727
>some nordic knight from Hroldan goes south in search of pussy
>finds girl-shepardess Sed-Yenna at Sancre Tor
>rapes her overexerts himself and dies
>Sed-Yenna hides her pregnancy eventually gives birth to baby Reman, happens upon the Amulet of Kings at Sancre Tor
>Sed-Yenna goes back to town claims she found baby-Reman at the top of Sancre Tor with the Amulet of Kings
>Legend builds up around Reman, he is considered a chosen one

>Reman grows up to become a powerful Colovian general
>Akaviri invasion begins
>Reman's prestige allows him to convince the lords of Colovia and Nibenay to give him their armies so that he can defeat the Akaviri
He defeats them
>Akaviri name him Dragonborn, pledge their armies to him in which he uses to keep in power
>finds himself in de facto control over High Rock and Skyrim after the devastation spread throughout those regions
>formulates the process of lighting the Dragonfires
>is never actually crowned emperor in his lifetime

>>50405352
So, If I were to claim that invisible, intangible elephants were following people around, I wouldn't have to argue my case since there's no way to prove otherwise? Does that make the elephants valid?

>>50405402
>>50405377

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>>50405377
No you didn't, as I've not posted there. Cry more because nobody thinks your favorite zenimax cashgrab is canon

>>50402491
Lusty Argonian Maid

>>50405417
I've found the opposite honestly, seems only a select few seem to complain that teso is noncanon.

>>50405454
Its more like you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.

>>50405259
>Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do
-Pete Hines

>>50405489
That doesn't make it non-canon, it just makes it not related to the main series.
Those aren't the same thing.

>>50389937
fucking kek

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>>50405415
>I don't have time to argue my point, if you want to know my opinion you have to kiss my ring and go look up non specific threads where I may have argued about it anonymously.

I don't even go on /tesg/, fampai. Have you considered that maybe you're acting like a jackass because not everyone agrees with you.

>>50405397
Not bad for a Nordic rape baby

>>50405514
>100% unrelated to the single player series
>that means it's still canon because he didn't say 'canon' r-right guise

This thread is not going good places.

Anyways, what little details are you favorite? The small ones that not many RPGs would even consider for lore.

>>50405575
A good example of this is the upcoming mass effect game.
I haven't seen anyone argue it's not canon, but they've done everything they can to make it completely unrelated to the trilogy.
Relation =/= canon

>>50405595
I like how detailed magic is. It actually explains how it's done, where it comes from, what goes into it, it's limits (or lack there of), and how it plays a role in different cultures.

That and food. Anything that details food is great.

>>50405259
>Q:
>Do you have any co-operation with the creators of the single-player TES games, with regards to lore from ESO showing up in a future TES, and such?

>Lawrence Schick:
>I'm personally in regular communication with Kurt Kuhlmann and Bruce Nesmith at BGS. We talk about that sort of thing, but really, whatever those guys decided to use or not use from ESO in future single-player titles is entirely their prerogative.

>>50405377
>ESO sperg is from from /tesg/
That explains a lot.

>>50405605
Relation means all like-crosses between two things dude. And 100% unrelation means they share literally nothing. Please keep trying to reinterpret this though.

>>50405681
>Relation means all like-crosses between two things dude.
No, actually.
Let's for fun ignore the fact they do share plenty; races, worlds, materials, etc
It's unrelated to the series, not the lore.

>>50405397
Hey Kurt.

>>50405575
He's referring to development.

I'm actually fucking astounded at the stupidity this thread has descended into while I was gone for the last 20 minutes.

Are we being raided?

>>50405736
>Are we being raided?
I think it's just new people from recent sales.
You can tell because they're throwing insults like commonplace speech.

Evermore is a Stendarr worshiping city, but only in ESO but it fits so well with Daggerfall especially since no other providence in High Rock worships Stendarr.

>>50405679
see
>>50405477
inb4 someone claims that people shitpost more on weekday threads come monday

>>50405764
No, unfortunately people just shitpost here all the time now.

>>50405736
>>50405754
>fresh from the /r/teslore hugbox and already calling someone new for having a different opinion.

>>50405595
I really like that there's such a thing as in-universe fiction and stories, and that you can actually read them. Makes the world feel alive.

An unfortunate trend in a lot of settings, be it vidya or published setting books for rpg systems, is that you'll learn a lot about setting in a strictly historical and referential manner. They talk about history and society, but not about the stories the inhabitants of that society tell each other. At most, you'll get a referential mention "In year 2941, Yugtlop the Mad Poet wrote a scathing play about Marquis Ynugger of Ingulstad, leading to a persecution of writers and artists".
In TES, you can actually straight up read plays, stories both religious and cultural, and historical fiction.

>>50405736
Might be we have some newfriends. The tone's been a bit different recently.

>>50405731
being unrelated to a series means they are fucking disconnected dude.
It means that nothing that happens in ESO is going to have an effect on the main series, or in other words none of ESO's lore is going to have any consequence in the main series and is therefore non-canonical.
The fact that they share a similar setting is the exact reason why Pete Hines needed to make this statement that they are not actually related so that people know they are not actually fucking related.
The only reason why Zenimax even claims ESO is canon to the series is so that they can get more fans of the series to play the game.

>>50405784
If you're not new, you're just a fucking retard.

I've been participating in TES lore threads since they were only on /v/ over six years ago.

>>50405784
No, I'm sure there are people who honestly believe eso is canon, and there are people who honestly believe eso is not canon.
But acting like this isn't productive to anything. As of right now, I prefer my lore to be from noneso sources. But things that the main series hasn't touched on, like DOP 9497.15, an eso source is of course valid there.

>>50405784
While I agree that he's being a little prissy about having to watch your words to not offend someone, /tg/ and /tgesg/ have always been pretty friendly. While being called a nigger on 4chan is common, being called one on /tg/ is fairly uncommon.

>>50405821
I cannot fathom that someone actually typed this out and thought it had any merit to it.

>>50405828
desu I agree mostly, It'd save headaches if people posted disclaimers for eso lore so memers can get their >eso and fuck off. I think these autism fits are necessary every once in a while, however. They keep the ESOfags from getting too complacent.

>>50405882
First of all, I don't think there's a single "ESOfag" in these threads.

In ten years it will not matter whether a source saying Maormer make cheese from sea drakes came from ESO or Skyrim.

>>50405835
not an argument

>>50405882
>It'd save headaches if people posted disclaimers for eso lore
uesp usually links their source at the bottom of their pages

>>50405903
It wasn't intended to be.

>>50405835
>unrelated does not mean disconnected
t. doctor of english language

>>50405896
Not him, but there is the guy who got butthurt when I said, I'll wait and see if it's canon before I'll take it as a source, and refused to believe there was any real logic behind my reluctance even though the official stance is >>50405653

>>50405954
Unrelated to the development of the single player series by Bethesda.

But please, hit me with the hottest new meme from /int/, or maybe another reaction image from /tv/.

>>50405965
That doesn't mean that the lore isn't valid or doesn't exist, though, it only means that it might not show up in the next singleplayer game. Which proves nothing.

It's canon. This isn't even like, anything to do with people who used to work for the company, or out of game texts or anything.

The official stance is that it's an official game that is part of the official Elder Scrolls franchise.

>>50405973
I cannot fathom that someone actually typed this out and thought it had any merit to it.

>>50405930
That doesn't do anything to reduce the amount of shitposting itt though. Im just saying it'd go a lot smoother if people just did this
>x thing happened (according to eso)
>low effort greentext
>ignore low effort greentext and continue discussion

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>>50405973
>But please, hit me with the hottest new meme from /int/, or maybe another reaction image from /tv/.
Don't encourage this.

>>50406006
If someone doesn't want eso lore, it is on them to filter out eso lore. We're not their mom.

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>>50406005
Not enough memes for you, you fucking degenerate?

>>50406003
It's not necessarily canon, and just because information exists doesn't mean it's canon.
I've said my due, and you aren't going to listen. We can either agree to disagree like I've been doing from the get go, or you can continue to throw a fit.

>>50406026
But your way just goes
>x thing happened
>citation needed
>eso
>>eso
>gets butthurt because he is now invested and shits up the thread

>>50406069
The fact that the information exists within an official Zenimax owned and developed game means that it's canon, like it or not.

That's what makes it canon. Not just by virtue of existing.

I'm not listening because you are, factually, incorrect. This has nothing to do with conflicting opinions and does not end on "agree to disagree."

You are wrong.

>>50406006
If everyone ignored low effort greentext 4chan would be a better place overall. And it didn't start with a troll, it started with someone literally just saying "Eh, I don't consider ESO canon," and then someone else making a highly bold (and inflammatory) claim about ESOs status as canon.

You have to at least concede that stating a single tweet as a solid source when several others state the complete opposite.

Whatever happened to "Keep the squabbling to a minimum."?

>>50406083
That wouldn't change, no matter what people do to please the other.
The entire fault of the issue lies on the ">eso" guy not the "eso" guy, he is the one taking issue, he is the one having problems.
Only he can take steps to protect his lore-view, anything done by someone else is useless because it does not affect ">eso" guy.

The death of comfy.

>>50406153
This like one of those forest fires that clears room for new trees. It'll go back to comfy once everybody has worked out their anger.

>>50406111
*Concede that it's bound to cause controversy or outright ridicule, especially with how contentious ESO lore is.

Can Sload Soap be used as actual soap, or is it just a name?

>>50406271
I don't think it's actually actual soap, but it is used as a product for...something.

>>50406271
I always assumed it was soap made from sload fat.

>>50406281
Ointment?

>>50406271
I'm fairly sure it's actual soap. That might bear some searching.
>>50406291
That was always my assumption as well. Who knows though, >>50406281 may be on to something.

>>50405641
Hold up, it does? How doest the magic work then? Except from the fact that it comes in through holes in mundus?

>>50406291
"Sload soap is a waxy substance made from the immature non-sentient forms of the Sload."
Maybe?

>>50406307
>>50406299
Okay, it actually can be used as fairly effective soap, though the main purpose isn't hygienic.

>>50406291
Nah, it's made from Sload kids.

>>50406271
Yes it is actually used as soap though its purpose to the sload is for necromantic rituals.

>>50406309
Depends. The thing that all magic has in common is that it requires intellect to learn and comprehend, and willpower to influence reality, focus, and maintain the spell. Different forms of magic have some difference in how they work, for example Mysticism.
>Mysticism seems to derive power from its conundrums and paradoxes; the act of experimentation, no matter how objectively implemented, can influence magicka by its very existence. Therefore the Mystic mage must consign himself to finding dependable patterns within a roiling imbroglio of energy. In the time it takes him to devise an enchantment with a consistent trigger and result, his peers in the other schools may have researched and documented dozens of new spells and effects.

Alteration is more about imagination and using will to cement the un-reality you want.
>But the spells of Alteration are all about uncommon sense. The infinite possibilities, breaking the sky, swallowing space, dancing with time, setting ice on fire, believing that the unreal may become real. You must learn the rules of the cosmos and then break them.
>To master Alteration, first accept that reality is a falsehood. There is no such thing. Our reality is a perception of greater forces impressed upon us for their amusement. Some say that these forces are the gods, other that they are something beyond the gods. For the wizard, it doesn't really matter. What matters is the appeal couched in a manner that cannot be denied. It must be insistent without being insulting.
>To cast Alteration spells is to convince a greater power that it will be easier to change reality as requested than to leave it alone. Do not assume that these forces are sentient. Our best guess is that they are like wind and water. Persistent but not thoughtful. Just like directing the wind or water, diversions are easier than outright resistance. Express the spell as a subtle change and it is more likely to be successful.

They were golden, even when they were dead. But their blood was red. I knew it would be.

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Daily reminder that Argonians fart when they're angry.

Is it normal that... spriggans give me wood?

>>50407571
Take your puns and leaf.

>>50389480
I mean are the towers affected by time because if the Dominion can deactivate them all before landfall then I guess Numidium's status wouldn't matter

>>50407777
Why don't you just Bear with it?

>>50389685
He's the only one that actually felt bad about murdering his best friend and didn't try to rewrite history to pretend it never happened.

He's not autistic he has some other psychological issues

>>50407840
Khajiit will save everyone. Well. Or just themselves.

>>50407840
What do you mean by time?

Contrary to what was once theorized, the Towers actually serve no purpose in holding up the Mundus, at least not on a level higher than the local. The Dominion might still be aiming to destroy them, though, and maybe think this will help further their goals.

However, if Ada-Mantia goes down, who knows what could happen.

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>>50407912
It's not like Man and Mer deserve to be saved by the superior Cats.
Baan Dar is worshipped for a reason.

>>50407970
>Baan Dar is worshipped for a reason.
People getting high on skooma?

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>>50408401
That's more of a Riddle'Thar thing.

Can we talk about the greybeards?

How Powerful are they?

And how old? Do they even recruit people or are they getting really old?

Why do they think the existance of the Elder Scrolls is blasphemy?

>>50408852

>How Powerful are they?
Pretty powerful

>And how old?
They are all humans so I'd say they about 70-80

>Do they even recruit people or are they getting really old?
They do recruit people. Ulfric was learning to be a greybeard which is why he was able to shout

>>50409031
Why aren't there any women greylegbeards? Kyne was a warrior woman I doubt she bestowed the voice only to men.

>>50409126
One of the ancient heroes was a chick and I'm pretty sure there are female draugr with shouts.

Furthermore shouting is a skill that can be learned by anyone.

>>50409126
Kyne grants the voice to women, it just comes with the beard too so you can't tell

So as amulet of kings has been destroyed, does this mean that Daedra can come and go as they please now on Nirn? If this is true, why arent there more of them walking about?

>>50409536
Did you not play obvion?

The dragonfires are now permanently lit.

>>50409126
>Why aren't there any women greylegbeards?
I'm sure there has been, at some point.

>>50404891
How is the Hist an antithesis of an Amaranth?

I vaguely understand the theory that they are collecting memories to simulate a dream while remaining awake and lucid, but what exactly does it mean?

If a Dwemer farts, is it Tonal magic?

>>50410463
They somehow survived a few kalpas and now they want to stop the wheel.
So they can stick around.

>>50410463
No clue. Like I said, that's exactly the single time it's ever been mentioned.

Another theory is that they're some sort of Dagoth Ur-like being from a previous kalpa. It only makes sense that with his anti-CHIM there would also be an anti-Amaranth.

How big is the emperor crab?

It doesn't seem that big in game, but a lot of those manors go pretty deep.

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Thanks for being here tgesg so I dont have to suffer in tesg

>>50410922
That's because the manors are "under-Skar". The crab itself only serves as a lobby.

>>50411298
Just show up at the Temple of Kynareth on the weekends and pray like a pious knight should.

Why was marriage only a recent thing in the age of when Skyrim happened? Or is it just the ritual that was new?

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>Your favorite artifacts have been missing since Morrowind

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>>50412089
>Goldbrand
>This magical Sword is almost a complete mystery. Thieves tell tales about its golden make and how it was actually forged by ancient dragons of the North. Their tales claim that it was given to a great knight who was sworn to protect the dragons.
>it's not in fucking Skyrim of all games

>>50412151
If its not Daedric or Elven its not getting in

>>50392455
Just to tell you this.
You have the option to backstabbing both the Forsworn king and the Silverbloods.
It's the only way to make Markarth safer.

>>50393270
Breton born under the Atronach sign and having mastered alteration magic to a point where he can absorb even more.

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>>50411846
What are you talking about? Does someone in Skyrim say something about marriage in the temple of Mara being a new tradition?

Without knowing the source, I'd guess it's talking about Skyrim having been Imperialized to the point where they've adopted Imperial marriage customs, which differ greatly from the more complicated nature of traditional Nordic marriage.

If the story of Shor is anything to go by, you have War-Wives, Bed-Wives and Tear-Wives.
>After her husband Shor had forgotten to kiss her, a tradition among the War-Married when they returned from the field together, Kyne kept her storms to herself and knew there would be no true understanding until the twilight was lifted.
>Dibella ... Bed-Wife of Shor
>Kyne knew Mara was no doubt making treaties with one of the other chieftains, and the Pact still allowed for Tear-Wives to do that

The three roles above were likely not JUST metaphysical and religious, but also probably existed as some sort of institution in ancient Nordic culture.

If we get into the Five Hounded Companions, we have mentions of:
>Wine-Wives (essentially somewhere between a "official mistress" and a prostitute)
>Book-Wife (married to a Clever Man, likely the female equivalent of one)
>Sky-Wife (a female Tongue)
>Succor-Wife (the one example is married to a scarred man, so something like a wife to comfort someone who's been through a lot)
>Witch-Wife (a female mage, presumably)
>Shield-Wife (warrior wife, one would assume)

1/2

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>>50412523
>Hearth-Wife (wife in charge of the household, presumably for Boat-Thanes and others who are away from home to fight)
>Autumn-Wife
>Totem-Wife (there's a "Totem-Wife Fair", so it's likely a religious position, like a priestess)
>Suffer-Wife
>Whittling-Wife (a unique form of marriage, apparently)
>Kyne-Wife (priestess? Tongue? both?)
>Wind-Wife (navigator, maybe?)

It's pretty clear that there were many different kinds of marriage in ancient Nordic culture. In the list of the Five Hounded Companions (or so), there's even reference to there being "types of marriage". It's important to note that the trend seems to be that multiple marriages are seemingly not that common, and mostly a thing for chieftains/thanes/men of importance (though it may be that "lesser" wives are not mentioned, either way polymarriage is present but seemingly not the norm). Both of these texts very rarely just use the word "wife" alone, it's almost always X-Wife.
Ysgramor's son(s) have multiple Tear-Wives, Wine-Wives, Heart-Wives, Kyne-Wives and Shield-Wives, and the retinue included several unmarried Thunder Shield Women.

Ancient Nords (especially the ruling class) had a very different conception of family.

2/2

How many times have Bretons and Nords met on the battlefield? I know there's a long standing rivalry among Bretons and Reguards over control of the Illaic Bay. A few cities in High Rock have been under Nord occupation, but I can't think of anything that have been occupied by Bretons (not Reachmen)

>>50412538
>Kyne-Wife (priestess? Tongue? both?)
Maybe Fryse Hag.

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I totally forgot that we have the "Dov names" of everyone in Ysgramor's (Ysmaalithax') retinue (which in and of itself is super interesting), and casts a bit of light on a few of the roles. It's not that important, but let's mention it anyway.

>[(Grit-Prince Tstunal) Tsunaltir and Stuhnalmir's) Wives] - [Tsuunalinfaxtir and St’unuhaslifafnal's Jills]
I hope this formatting makes any sort of sense to the rest of you.

>[Tear-Wives] - [Tear-Jills]
No real difference, though translating Tusk Widow (Nord) to Dewclaw Widow (Dov) is sort of interesting.

>[Wine-Wives] - [Void-Jills]
Wine-Wives are commonly called "X-Casket" or "Casket-X", but the Dov names seem to translate it to Fire. Hate-Basket and Half-Casket become Hate-Fire and Half-Fire, while "Ingridal who lost her casket at the burning" becomes "Ingridaaligu who lost her minutes in the mending".

>[Hearth-Wives] - [Earth-Jills]
Less "home-wife", more "earthly-wife", but the concept seems consistent.

>[Kyne-Wives] - [Aether-Jills]
Trying to interpret this is going to be speculative, but what's striking is how Aether-Jills appears to be quite the opposite of a Earth-Jill, perhaps because their domain is the divine. Which makes me want to read Kyne-Wife as more of a religious position.

>[Shield-Wives] - [Magne-Jills]
I honestly wish I could decide what to make of this particular connection. Meridia's relationship to Lorkhan springs to mind.

And as a neat sidenote, "Hans the Fox" = "Pelinaalilargus the Pragmatist".

>>50413029
Just to jump off of that, from the PGE2 we have what appear to be the names of Jills.

>Akartefti
>Akame[...]nhatis
>Ak[a][....]abas

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Since I'm on the topic, and I've got nothing better to do, a few observations regarding the Nordic version of Ysgramor's retinue and the (possibly dracochrysalised?) Dov version.

>Nord - Dov
>Ysgramor - (Boat-Thane) Ysmaalithax the Northerly Dragon
>Tusk Widow Who Foreswore Her Name - Dewclaw Widow Who Foreswore Her Name
>Ingridal who lost her casket at the burning - Ingridaaligu who lost her minutes in the mending
>Shanjenen the Echo-Eaten - Shanu’ujeneen the Star-Woven
>Thunder Shield Women (related to Kyne) - Thunder-Scaled Jills (related to Ald'uin)
>Oracle-Aunts - Oracle-Oocytes
>Kjhelt of the Cult of Orkey - Kuujhe’elthilax of the Kalpa of the Orsidoon (!)
>Ingridal who used her wine casket as a drum - Ingriidarligar who used her tailclaw as a song
>Anshalf whose gigantic shield was stripped from a karstaag-man - Ansahaalifar whose gigantic feathered-crown was stripped from a Dawn Goddess that was eaten before she could fully congeal
>Khela and Akhela who traded shields daily out of some geas - Khelsadaalix and Akheelaalix who traded heads daily out of some geas
>Mem-yet Chemua who held secret shield-songs “unneeded yet” - Mehemeem’yetthex Aththoommua who held secret syllables “unneeded yet”
>Totem-Uncles - Shed-Uncles
>Torc-Nephews - Clutch-Nephews ["torc-bearer" becomes "decendant"] ["gregarious and warm" becomes "expressive and endless"]

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>>50413355
>Khaalthhe the Lynx-or-Leopard - Khaalthaheelodoon the Jill-or-Drake
>Clever Man - Shout Holder ["blood" becomes "neck-blood"]
>Hegm the Deaf - Hegmaaligus the Mute ["deaf" is consistently "mute"] ["Speaker" becomes "Chorus"]
>Bjurl Dahnaorsson who Heard Enough to Let Hegm Know Later - Basdsdajurlahnaor who Shouted Enough to Give Hegmaaligus His Leave
>Nieces-of-Snow - Nieces-of-Clock
>pets - shed skins
>Fefmem and Gemalleir, the two-headed glow-eel - Fefmem and Gemalleir, the two-headed rhetoric
>Dyssl-veb the Bear - Dyssle’vehb the Stoic Shout
>whose tusks were adorned in devil-scratch - whose dewclaws were adorned in numantia-scratch

>>50413124
That's entirely possible.
Truth be told, it's been so long since I last read from the PGE2 that I can scarcely remember that.

>>50413371
The whole Atmorans = Dragons thing, when combined with Atmorans = Karstaag (maybe?)/Giants and Atmorans = Ehlnofey and then the whole "Atmora frozen in time" plus "The Return as the end of the last kalpa (a la the Yokudan warrior wave or even Aldmeris)" leads to some weird implications.

The whole idea behind (Breto)Nordic skaldic tradition where they just make stuff up to embellish the story, like the 500 Companions, where apparently every notable figure in Tamrielic history was there, seems like it mirrors what is glimpsed at during Dragon Breaks: the Dawn Time, when everything happened at once.

Or, basically, what this puts way better: https://www.imperial-library.info/content/nords-lack-creation-myth

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>>50412538
Last post on the topic (I promise), but I forgot another thing, and that's husbands. The other half of a marriage.

There's a few scarce mentions of various husband types as well, in the retinue of Rebec the Red.
>Rebec’s Hearth-Husband Jjauf
>Pity-Husbands Korl-jkorl, Heimgrud the Laughing Lake, Njimal, Bjimal Njimalson, and Thalld the Hobbler
>Shield-Husband Valomar of the Daggershout
As with most other cases, the reason for her large multitude of husbands is probably at least in part because of her stature, seeing as she was a Boat-Thane important enough to lead Ysgramor's vanguard for a time with her longboat.

There's some obvious issues one can find with taking all of this at face value, but the text is not without its insights, and you could probably say that even if some of these marriage types turn out to be more legendary or mythical than actually a cultural practice at some time, the Nords certainly seem to believe that this all happened. And if we can't have truth (whatever that is), having what people believe happened has to be the next best thing.

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>>50413504
I wouldn't read the last part of the list of the Five Hounded Companions as a general implication that Atmorans are Dragons. I think it has more to do with Ysgramor (and those in his sphere).

I mean, Ysgramor was a dragon in some sense. By that I don't mean that he was a huge flying lizard, but that he was a dragon by virtue of action and belief. In Kuhlmann's words (or MK, I forget), dragons are "biological time machines powered by ideologies", and whatever being Ysgramor was, it fell into that category somehow.
"Shor did shake his scaled mane" and all that, plus it's awfully convenient that Atmora froze in time as Ysgramor, the Northern Dragon, possible Aspect of Time-God left for Tamriel.
So Ysgramor can be both a man, a Nordic culture hero associated with Shor, and Ysmaalithax the Northerly Dragon (which makes me think of Ysmir), Boat-Thane to the World-Eater. Even barring the strictly metaphysical approach, we can be pretend to be Hasphat Antabolis and draw connections between Ysgramor the man/hero and the Dragon Cult. It just fits on so many levels.

>>50413919
There's a quote by MK about that, actually:

>Can you hear me? In the back?
>Can you hear us? In the back?
>Ysgramor was a Dragon.
>YS GRA MOR

Which, exactly as you mentioned, was met with this response by The Hasphat:
>If Ysgramor was indeed a "dragon", most likely he was a Dragon Priest - in the Late Merethic Era, it would be unlikely for a leader of Ysgramor's reported stature to be unconnected to the Dragon Cult. But connecting the Nord hero Ysgramor with the now-reviled Dragon Cult is of course anathema to those who favor chauvinism over historical truth.

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>>50412523

Conversations in Oblivion strongly implied that Nords, (at least in the Third Age, and in and around the Jerral Mountains,) basically just shacked up with each other, and that marriage was something the Cyrodils brought in when they built the chapels.

>>50414233
>YS GRA MOR

Implying its Dovah. If so, what does it mean?

>>50414421
>Let's tear this forest down.
Mor, Mora, Forest?

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>>50414421
Who knows?
Might be Liz Grah Moro, which is Ice Battle Glory, but I don't feels sure about that. Or it even being an actual Dov name.
Alternatively, if we say it's not a traditional Dov name, Mor might be Mora (Forest), which seems appropriate.

Going out on a limb and trying Ehlnofex, it might be that Ys Gra Mor is a corruption of [UNKNOWN] Ghartok Mora (Something Hand Forest), but that's getting pretty speculative.

Gra reminds me of "Gravuloi" in Falmeris (meaning "Enemy") and "Gravia" in Ayleidoon (meaning "Ugly").

But I'm just throwing suggestions out there. It may also just be that MK didn't intend it to mean anything in particular, he's done that before.

Why does nobody in Nirn have an eyepatch?

>>50414740
because they don't play lawn darts.

>>50415067
I'm pretty sure someone has lost an eye because a player character ran by wearing Daedric Armor.

>>50414740

Engine limitations / "We'll let the modders fix it."

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The design of the Khajiit in Skyrim are clearly inspired by Lynxes, which is kind of neat.
Concept art makes it obvious.

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Ending! Words! ALMSIVI!

>>50414695
Ysgramor being Ysmir would make sense. I mean who else should Ysmir "Dragon of the North" be?

>>50415262
I like the cats but its not really immersive to play as a Khajiit.

The people somehow have no Problem letting you into the cities while every other Khajiit and argonian complains about being forced living outside.

Some more fantasy racism towards the player would have been nice

>>50416361
But that would actually make the role playing choices you made while creating your character meaningful though. Can't have that in a role playing game, that's scary!