Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>50394622
1st for Buildposter please go and stay go

Can we actually stop with the retarded OP topics for real though

>>50394622
Every day, we move further from God's light.

>>50394622
Silly you, Paladins can't become addicted to harlot sweets!

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I'm working on converting Paladin archetypes to the Antipaladin, mostly for shits and giggles, and in case anyone wants a cleaner Paladin-Antipaladin transition.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pl00apM9VDmhmLQZxzYJMmY6QLrLFhap3vH7bXnKtgg/edit

Currently, the Infernal Servant (Sacred Servant conversion) is done and I'm working on the Black-iron Knight (Knight Disciple conversion). Any other ideas?

>>50394645
>The fact that you're still arguing that clear mind, which is a shit rage power, is a better choice than reckless abandon.

>THe litch casts a spell at you, roll a will save
>The sorcerer yells at you that it is dominate person
>d20 -> 2
>uhh..CLEAR MIND ok got an 9
>TPK averted

Do you really think that the ability to re-roll a shit roll, that with your offensive power could easily result in a TPK, is a bad feat to take?

>>50394698
It's mathematically equivalent to a +5 to a skill check per day.

>>50394698
>Litch
Kill yourself.

>>50394622
>Would you play a bimbo kitsune paladin addicted to harlot sweets as a PC, or take one as a cohort or waifu?
No, I don't play stupid characters.
No, I never take paladins as cohorts.
No, I don't take stupid paladins for wives since my character would be the same sex and therefore the druggie paladin would be agaisnt same sex couplings because she doesn't have enough brains or wits to realize it might be okay.

>>50394726
>A barbarian may reroll a failed Will save.
>It's mathematically equivalent to a +5 to a skill check per day.
...jesus christ

>>50394622
Why not a pretend bimbo who's just shape-shifted to try and get some attention?

On a related note. What's the best class for a Magical-Tail focused Kitsune?

>>50394742
There's some hot sports opinions you got there, kiddo.

>>50394726
Except this barbarian in particular is going to be in mythos games. Clear mind might just save his, and his parties life. We have this knowledge from the player.

>>50394745
It's Jason Bourne!

But seriously, getting rerolls on saves is always a good thing. I'd take it to be honest.

>>50394758
They asked for opinion, I gave them some.

>>50394756
Unchained Rogue.

>>50394726
Are you legit dumb?

>>50394756
I'd say Oracle desu, if only because you're a 9/9 caster so you can't fuck up too much.

>>50394726
Taking the higher of 2d20 increases the mean by 3.33 taking it to 13.83 from 10.5

>>50394799
Except no, you aren't just rolling twice on one of your saves randomly.

You are re-rolling a shit roll that will cause a TPK.

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>>50394622
>When your Katana costs more than 300k GP.

>>50394834
How does that change the math?

>>50394799
>>50394726
Ugh, statisticians. Fucking idiots.

The dice gods do not care about your mathematics.

>>50394834
I'm going to have to go with shitposter on this one, re-rolling a will save is a big fucking deal. Barbarians can pump their saves pretty high, but a natural 1 on a saving throw is an auto-fail, and that WILL fuck your day up.

Reminder that Boar is beautiful!
and needs a name

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>>50394854
>Statisticians are idiots
What is this meme?

>>50394851
The math is right. If you just rolled 2d20 and took the higher you are right.

But: you are rolling 1d20, waiting to fail, and then re-rolling it.

So it isn't higher of (1d20,1d20), its higher of (1d20 that results in a fail, 1d20)

>>50394362 #

Hmm, my starting idea was an arcane bloodline, primalisr or id rager bloodrager. Do the extra powers make that big of a difference?

>>50394376 #
That is actually cool, but I was thinking a more facebashing and gutripping gnome. Definitely saving that for later tho.

Also, Paizo, y u no have risky striker for gnomes, goblins and all other batshit crazy small races?

>>50394869
Then buy a cyclops helm instead. No need to spend class options on that.

>>50394885
Clear Mind (Ex)

Prerequisite: Barbarian 8

Benefit: A barbarian may reroll a failed Will save. This power is used as an immediate action after the first save is attempted, but before the results are revealed by the GM. The barbarian must take the second result, even if it is worse.

Special: This power can only be used once per rage.

BEFORE THE RESULTS ARE SHOWN BOY!

>>50394851
Easy.

You fail a roll. You now have the option of attempting to succeed at the roll. If the failed roll is inconsequential, you can seave the reroll. If the failed roll is a dominate or death spell, you get the opportunity to not kill your party or not die.

There is no statistical success value on a reroll that isn't random. It's pass/fail and cope, or fail/reroll if something horrible may happen. you get to choose the fail if it's not going to fuck you, or try again if it will.

Math isn't as important as being able to chose the option to potentially survive an untenable situation that you are definitely in. The slightly better attack rolls are not nearly as vital as SAVING YOUR ASS.

>>50394899
...If your dm lets you buy that item then the correct choice is to buy 20 of them.

>>50394912
>roll a will save
>2
Gee I wonder if I will make this will save against he spell the enemy spellcaster threw at the barbarian in the first round of combat?

>>50394912
>once per rage
>per rage
I thought it was once per day, holy shit that's so much better, especially considering you're one level away from rage cycling.

>before the results are shown
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out when you need a clutch roll.

Is Powerless Prophesy (Oracle Curse) worth taking?
I'm trying to stack my Initiative really high and the +4 at level 5 seems tasty. Being staggered for the first round shouldn't matter since I'll spend the turn casting a spell as a Standard anyway, right?

>>50394912
A low roll is a low roll, anon. If you're sixth level and you roll an 8, chances are good you're fucked.

>>50394938
Being staggered the first round can get you killed, especially since if the first round is a surprise round, you may not get any action at all.

Is there a handbook for Pathfinder in PDF form?

Are there any premade campaigns you'd suggest for first time players?

>>50394938
>first round
>ally barbarian is a moron without clear mind and fails a will save against dominate person
>you are 15 feet away, with a protection from evil spell available

If you are staggered, you are fucked.

>>50394918
Wouldn't going the route of beast totem (lesser and standard), reckless abandon and taking superstition is likely a better bet, seeing as superstition would give +3 to all saves vs spells, SLA, or Su effects

>>50395001
Please see:
>>50394382

The idiocy started here:
>>50394451

>>50394997
Same thing if you're not staggered and he's 35 feet away.
An incredibly specific situation where you wish you hadn't picked something doesn't make it a bad option in general.

Which enthicity has the most motherly features?

>>50395018
But you are a hack if you aren't taking reckless abandon.

>>50394997
just blow a hero point for a move action if it's truly that dire of a situation

>>50394622
No.

>>50395023
How about you leave, then masturbate before you come back? Get it out of your system?

>>50395001
Superstition has the side effect of including ally spells and effects, anon, and you cannot drop it while raging without yet another rage power.. Be very, very careful about that shit.

>>50394997
>The barbarian doesn't have a clear spindle+wayfinder

He's a retard

>>50395045
But I did, and this isn't my fetish anyway

>>50395050
Oh that's kinda shit isn't it?

What kind of GM mind controls PCs in combat?
Are you people playing a meat grinder campaign or what?

>>50394626

Fun as that sounds, I was actually considering something else; I had a vague idea, maybe, of a girl who was acutally a former kuthonite--not really raised in the church, but got swept along with a former boyfriend realized how, ah, dim she was. She didn't last long in the church there when the more dreadful things came to light, but it left it's mark on her and her libido; after seeing that I imagine she would have moved on to think while that whole thing's, kinda like neat and all, it's not really like, good to force it on people, so she's more going for the 'morally righteous bondage crusader' deal, because I think that's hilarious. Safe, Sane, Consensual and all that.

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Is there a particular reason Kineticist is tier 5 and not 4 or 3? It seems like they have decent utility abilities as well as many different combat options. Is there something I'm not seeing? Am I just an idiot? Or is the tier list just wrong?

>>50395023

Define motherly.

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>>50395062
>isn't his fetish
>fetishposts anyway
What did he mean by this?

>>50395023
Halflings, duh. Try fucking harder you dipshit.

>>50395041
Presumes hero points are available.

>>50395072
It takes a fuckton of work to squeeze tier 3 out of it, since the class is riddled with traps.

>>50394983

What do you mean by handbook, a simplified guide to the mechanics?

As for premade campaigns, hmmm, I have heard good things of running Rise of the Runelords (anniversary) or Dragon's Demand. They are not perfect, but could be alright

>>50395039
Keep reading. There isn't room. It's a great rage power, it just doesn't make the cut.

>>50395061
>clear spindle+wayfinder
If your DM allows that go for it.

>>50395072
...bait?

It's a competent tier 4, and if built to be shit at combat it could maybe possibly theoretically hit the bottom of tier 3 maybe for a little bit once in a while for rounds/day at most.

>>50395063
It's fucking amazing, if you plan around it. In Strange Aeons? You might need it just to survive, which makes Clear Mind even more valuable to a Superstitious barbarian.

>>50395072
Imagine if the Bard had to hit himself over the head at full force with a club to use bardic performance

Also the class is just designed poorly and really only has a few options that are genuinely good

What RotJR characters do you like, but are underwritten? What would you tell them to improve their character and backstory?

>>50395084
>Presumes hero points are available.
people play games without hero points?
that sounds absolutely horrible

>>50395109
Protip for playing kinestist:

Pump CON, Don't take more burn than elemental overflow requires, Be air or earth

>>50395072
Because it has some good things but the rest of the class actively drags it down.

It's not actually good at what it's supposed to be good at.
Also damn it don't mention kineticist while buildposter is on or he'll post his one incredibly specfic build example of a workable kineticist that doesn't even come online pre level 11

These threads always pains me.

>>50395072

I personally rate it as a 4. I am not quite impressed by it as a pure damage dealer, but it can be handy.

>>50395078
"of, resembling, or characteristic of a mother, especially in being caring, protective, and kind." So features that would make you trust her to guard the camp all night, or features that belong on a woman who'd cook dinner for the whole party badly of course
Of course she could have a savage look instead.
Really I just need any ethnicity to both fully define her features and to draw a name from.
>>50395082
It means I get no sexual satisfaction or pleasure from this
>>50395084
Halfling is a race, not an ethnicity.

>>50395128
The builds /tg/ comes up with tend to assume total GM permissiveness. We're a little more circumspect in /pfg/ because GMs (and not just PF ones) are idiots sometimes.

>>50395133
I'M IMPROVING!

>>50395133
You guys don't have buildposter filtered yet?
I didn't even know that shitheel was in here.
Ignorance is bliss, remember.

>>50394834
>you aren't just rolling twice on one of your saves randomly
If you're only going to reroll on saves you think will fail, that's the equivalent of a rough +5 bonus because you'll only roll it again when you roll low. If you roll high then the power isn't used anyway.

>>50395145
My bad. You're even more of an idiot then.

>>50395093
>a simplified guide to the mechanics

Yeah, exactly that. I'm going to be playing with some friends who are fairly new to the game and internet at their apartment is... spotty at best. I'd much rather just have a PDF or something available on my phone rather than printing something out or hoping their wifi is working.

>Rise of the Runelords (anniversary) or Dragon's Demand

I'll check them out, thanks a ton.

>>50395086
>>50395109
Huh, I guess I'll take a closer look, then. I'm currently playing one and having a lot of fun, but maybe because my table is filled with terribly incompetent players, I was just kind of assuming it was because the Kineticist was a decent class.

I mean, I knew several of the most terrible options right off the bat, and Burn and related abilities are really counter- intuitive. I guess I'll take a deeper look into my character.

>>50395160
I agree.

>>50395166
I may be an idiot, but what does that have to so with this?
Everyone here is an idiot no offense guys [/spoiler ] anyway, Pathfinder is a horrible system

>>50395160
There's no fucking comparison between the two. Skill checks don't generally end in potential death for everyone around you unless you're disarming traps.

A wizard, aboleth, or intellect devourer mind controlling your barbarian can end up killing everyone.

>>50395192
Oh, it's definitely capable of being fun to play.
It's got cool flavor available, too.
It just doesn't get to do much in a party with, like, an Investigator, Barbarian and a Sorcerer or something like that.

>>50395200
Because ethnicities aren't motherly, people are.

>>50394680

Alright, Black-iron Knight is finished. Time to work on the Enlightened Paladin counterpart and then I have to go do something else.

>>50395200
That was supposed to be double spoiler'd, whoops.
>>50395214
Could it in a [spoiler 25pb gestalt game starting at level three [/spoiler]?
>>50395223
But features are, and features are based off of ethnicity. I think I'll just make her have no clear ethnicity though.

>>50395254
Fucking Christ I hate my phone.

i hate OP

>>50395160
The math doesn't quite work out that way; the +5 stuff in 5e was worked out based on the percentage of passing a certain DC with or without advantage assuming you roll two dice at the same time.

If you roll a 2, the decision to reroll it is effectively a +8.

>>50395070

That kinda sounds like an ex-kuthonite that embraced Arshea or Shelyn and utilizes bondage in her expressions of deific obedience, Zon-Kuthon isn't the sort to have Paladins!

Also isn't bondage a little dangerous for a sweetly dim, fairly impulsive young woman?

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>>50395281
Even with how much I love you?

>>50395214
Well, we've got a Barbarian (new player), Unchained Monk (who took 6 rounds to beat up a pirate using full attacks each round) and a Cleric (who actually prepared healing spells)

And I feel like I'm carrying the entire party. I just wanted to know if it was the class, or my group.

>>50395306
...
umm
...

You seem to be having a lot of fun, and that what really matters.

>>50395145

Hmm, I'd suggest Osirion if you want a chesty brown-girl that fiercely protects her brood, or perhaps a tall Ulfen lass that knows all the ways to keep her young men warm at night.

This is a wildcard, but another is Varisian; she's a motherly gypsy woman with a really large extended family, and naturally connects with anyone she meets! Plus you'll have all those family members expecting her to either have kids or take care of the kids, further adding to her motherliness.

>>50395290

That's half the fun! And yeah, she wasn't going to *still* be a Kuthonite; she has a strong moral center, but she thought all the bondage and piercings and stuff was just so cool and cute when done right! It's when it's done wrong when things are terrible and bad and as a paladin it's, like, her job to fight things that are terrible and bad! With, like, justice and love!

... Yeah, probably Arshea, I think. But what to put on the other side of the gestalt, hmm... Rubato Bard, maybe?

>>50395303
that only makes me hate you more.

>>50395303
Does she have 4 ears?

What the hell does her skull look like?

"she" is a guy isn't she?

>>50395306
>Cleric (who actually prepared healing spells)
Did you at least try to show him on his class descriptor that he doesn't need to prepare them since he can cast them spont.?

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>>50395329
>I'd suggest Osirion if you want a chesty brown-girl that fiercely protects her brood

Like a catgirl!

>>50395336

This girl sounds like a real sweetie, even if she's got such a sinfully pierced body! Bard would be perfect for a woman like this, it gives her all those Perform skills that will let anyone around her know she might not know her algebra, but she sure can keep a beat or move her feet!

>>50395281
What you gonna do about it? Make another thread and get people to keep bitching about /pfg/ always having too many generals up?

>>50395329
I may go with Osirion, although something about Egyptian wereboar doesn't sit right with me

>>50395371
no i'm going to wait for this thread to hit bump limit and make the next thread before him.

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>>50395348
I'm super sad to hear that...
>>50395357
All the better to hear your heart go doki doki!

>>50395359
After the third time I pulled up the page and he refused to listen, I just let it go. This is the same guy who thought buying two goats to carry the legs of ale he bought with party fund money was a good idea.

>>50395378

Don't go with something you'll come to resent! The closest ethnic groups to Sandpoint are Shoanti, Varisian, Chelish, Ulfen, Taldan and Kellid with a smattering of Tien.

Hmm... How would you feel about Iobarian? They're basically post-apocalyptic Russians from a heavily forested region far to the east!

>>50395408
>Goats
Why not mules? That said i am always fond of buying animals to carry things for the party on long journeys.

>>50395425
Its an Ebberon campaign. We can literally buy a walking suitcase. Also, we haven't traveled outside of one specific major city since we started three months ago.

>>50395425

>tfw I always buy a horse for my character
>tfw the rest of the group scoffs at my waste of 100 gp... until they realize I've got effectively unlimited carry weight

>>50395370

Alright then; any other archetypes possibly suitable, you think, on either side of the gestalt?

>>50395455
There's a reason I grab a horse and wagon every time I make a character.

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>>50395424
>Iobarian
Holy shit that's perfect! Thank you so much anon!

>>50395455
Until the horse dies at least.
The one time I decided to buy a horse my gm killed it.

>>50395460

None come to mind besides Chosen One to emphasize her powers coming from an inherently pure soul!

>>50395537

Mm, that'll be I start without divine grace... but what's life without a little bit of risk?

>>50395612

It's risky yeah, but I can't see a woman like this becoming a professionally trained Paladin, and Chosen One is explicitly "self-taught with the guidance of an intelligent familiar!"

She doesn't need all that fancy religious talk, she just has a tingle in her heart and lady bits that tells her what she needs to do!

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>>50395512
>The one time I decided to buy a horse my gm killed it.

Well that's a real dick move, what made the DM think that was a hot idea?

Is there a feat monsters with spellcasting classes can take that allow them to consider non-class hit dice a part of their caster level?

Similar to that old feat in 3.5 that let you consider other class levels caster levels?

Boar girl now has a name! It is Svana Kodlak Kodlak is the Iobarian word for lycanthropes

>>50395742
>DM think that was a hot idea?
He was an awful dm that I no longer play with.

>>50395751

Svana is cute! Cute!

>>50395746
There is a trait.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/magic-traits/magical-knack

>>50394882
78% of people know that.

>>50395810
Don't tell her that, she'll get all flustered and won't know what to say

>>50395751

Now we just need a face to the name and an entry in the RotJR character list! Iobarian is a fantastic ethnic group that is shamefully rare in campaigns, excited to see how this motherly boar shapes up!

>>50395828
That will do, thank you!

>>50395072
Some of the newer archetypes and options help it but the base class was on the shit end of tier 5 when it came out. Might qualify as a bad t4 now if you stick to 1pp though. The original archetypes for them were exceptionally heinous, with the best example being Overwhelming Soul (a misnomer if there ever was one): Its entire schtick was that it "protects you" from taking burn.... BY FLATLY DISALLOWING YOU FROM DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD GAIN IT
>Wait, couldn't I just do this normally myself?
>Of course, but you wouldn't be PAYING for it with class abilities!
>Hoo boy! I can't wait!

Now if you want a good one, it IS quite possible nowadays, but if you want T3 you need third party support. Kineticists of Porphyra, Legendary Kineticists, and the DSP Gambler and Avant Garde not only open up many very good new elements (time, light, sound, viscera, poison, and a few more), but also greatly expand especially on some of the worst ones.

The Gambler is practically no longer a kineticist at all it's just so different, BUT it's got some amazing infinite-manifesting potential balanced by the use of the action economy to fuel themselves, quite a bit of depth to that one. The Avant Garde creates an eidolon-like Astral Construct on top of being regular kineticists, and is highly recommended.

All in all, with 3pp you can make some seriously awesome kineticists, but that means "Gambler" is tier 3. Kineticist is still Tier 5 or low-low 4 on its own without all the extra wild talents, mutations and other goodies from 3pp, and well overwhelming soul... just. no.

>>50395874

She better know how to dance, because some of us might want to take her to a harvest ball!

>>50395254
Gestalt helps anything, really. After all you could boost it with rage or dex/con mutagens or something.

But, for the same amount of effort in 'building' the character, the sorcerer would be a walking melee and casting GOD, giving and taking away with each hand with but a whim.

>>50395681

Mmm, alright then. And I think... Iw ant to use Whips on the bondage paladin, I feel like it makes sense for her; what all feats are necessary? I know there's a trait or two you really want for whip usage...

the erp strikes back

Still taking votes!

http://www.strawpoll.me/11729530

>>50395881
I'm not really getting my hopes up on finding some art for her to be honest
>>50395945
[spoilers] She is very not suited for dancing considering her... endowment. [/spoiler]

>>50396124
God damn it phone why do you insist on doing this to me

>>50396078

Whip's a bit too on-the-nose, don't you think? She might be a shameless masochist that gets off on being hurt, but even then she'd realize whips are woefully poor weapons.

Might I suggest a sword cane, glaive or some sort of bludgeon? Something just as useful for slapping an ass as killing one.

>>50396112
>Iron Gods
Fuck man, I would hop right on that shit if you were running. I've got two or three concepts that all work for it.

>>50396132
wait is someone making Darkness.

>>50396134
I would totally play an Iron Gods Campaign. It'd be the perfect time for my Spellslinger.

>>50396132

I suppose those are all good options, too; On the ohter hand, there is the scorpion whip, and since I'm going with an initiator mosto f my damage is gonna come from smite and strikes anyway, you know? On the other hand the mental image of spanking with a polearm is mildly hilarious.

Also I planned for her to be a switch, though one that prefers to sub/bottom once her partner's into the groove!

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>>50396148
>Spellslinger.
I hate to press about this, but isn't Spellslinger kinda terrible? Like, I know it's a wizard and all, but isn't an Eldritch Archer Magus better at the whole schtick in almost every way?

>>50396207
The spellslinger IS terrible in a lot of ways, but it has a lot of fun to it, and its interesting to take a wizard, a high tier character, and weaken them. I won't deny its worse but I also just.. Like it.

Plus, it can get x3 spellcrits, which is hillarious.

>>50394680

Chosen One so I can throw a Evil Magical Girl at the one in my party as a rival.

>>50394912
How can you reroll a failed save before the GM tells you that you've failed?

>>50396268
You look at the die and think to yourself "Aww heck, I rolled a 3!"

>>50396228
Alright, it's your choice. Not something I'd go for, but people are entitled to pick what they like.

>>50396124

Anon, please! Being a little top heavy just means she has to hold onto her man a little tighter and feel the motions from the sway of his hips.

>>50396290
But it specifically says "failed save" You could roll a 3 but have +15 to Fort and know that Drow Sleep Poison has a fort of 14 and be fine.

You don't know you "failed" a save until the DM imparts a negative effect onto you.

>>50396311
Fine, a 1. It's still fairly easy to know when you failed a save before a DM reveals anything.

>>50396305
there's nothing wrong with picking a bad archetype as long as you are aware its a bad archetype.

Especially on a tier 1 class.

>>50396322
You don't know you failed a save until the bad stuff happens, when the DM reveals the result.

"Failed" is a state within the game meaning that your roll + save is lower than the DC. You don't know you "failed" until the DM tells you.

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So /pfg/, rate my character for RotJR

>middle-aged human scrollmaster wizard||fighter
>uses Mage Armor and Shield to protect his lightly armored body
>took the nameless one feats to better intimidate his enemies with his hound mask
>uses a scroll belt as his weapon (ultimate intrigue item)
>pic related

>>50396347
You can damn well know you failed a save before you're told you fail a save.

>>50396306
Don't forget that not only does she have DDD cups, she has an absolutely enormous ass, and she's only 5'4"

>>50396355
You can't know until the DM tells you.

>>50396323
Yeah, that's why I'm not arguing. If he was playing one of those monk archetypes that actively makes the class worse, I'd be riding him harder about this, but on a wizard? it can deal with it, as long as the player knows what he's doing.

>>50396368
I rolled a 2, I only get a +5 to my save. That means my save score is a 7. Considering it's usually 10+ that means I failed. Which I know before finding out from the DM.

>>50396377
I believe the point of contention is that you don't 'know'

You 'heavily suspect', but you don't 'know'

Thoughts.

Could a Gestalted Seige Mage Wizard / Siege Gunner work out ok.

Just get a cannon on a floating disk and destroy people.

>>50396377
It doesn't matter what you roll or what your bonus is, you simply don't know whether you succeed or fail your save until the DM tells you.

>>50394622
gareth:

just got my pow:e hardcopy from amazon.

when/why did you guys switch to softcover b&w books?

i mean its still usable, but i was kindof hoping for a pretty color hardcover like my other 2 dsp books.

>>50396391
Siege Gunner's an archetype I've been wanting to try for a good while. It's the only kinda thing that supports shotgunning.

>>50396401
But that's bollocks, because you can know you failed whether or not the DM tells you.

>>50396404
I'm tempted to work on a character with it too. Targeted Blast is a hilarious ability.

Maybe i can do something with this..

Wait a minute...monk's speed don't stack with haste or expeditious retreat?

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>>50396414
particularly if you know what's going on.

"oh, I have a +10 save and rolled a 4, but the DC of the poison is somewhere around 20! Guess I better reroll this!"

>>50394622
Dare I ask what harlot sweets are?

>>50396423
"At 3rd level, a monk gains an enhancement bonus to his land speed, as shown on Table: monk. A monk in armor or carrying a medium or heavy load loses this extra speed."

Enhancement bonus, it does not.

>>50396414
But the Feat doesn't "Know" you failed. There's a set state in the game when you roll a Will save, you have 2 options "Succeed" or "Fail"

The game doesn't parse that you failed until the DM tells you.

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>>50396436
I'll be your harlot sweet

>>50396436
They're a drug that improves charisma at the expense of intelligence. Or was it wisdom?

One of them.

>>50396436
Bimbo in a can.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/afflictions/drugs/harlot-sweets

>>50396414
No you can't 'know' unless you have out of game knowledge.

>>50396434
You still don't know. The DM decides the save DC of the poison.

>>50396440
This game is pure bullshit, I dunno why I keep playing it. I need something to truly get me out of this shitty shitty system.

>>50396445
As soon as the die finishes rolling the state is secured. You either succeeded or failed. You can then reroll, as long as the DM hasn't informed you yet that you failed. Actually the DM must stop you from rerolling if you succeeded because you can only reroll when you fail the save.

>>50396452
Charisma and dexterity for wisdom.

>>50396471
that escalated quickly.

>>50396365

See? Svana's perfectly balanced top and bottom! She'd would cut a stunning figure in a nice dress.

>>50394622
Paizo is going out of business first quarter 2017 and there's nothing Shitseeker retards can do about it

>>50396466
>The DM decides the save DC of the poison.
Alright, let's indulge this little falsehood here.

What if someone else on your team has already been hit by it, and you know that 14 isn't enough? Unless they're flying by the seat of their pants and making up numbers on the fly - which no good GM will do - you can make educated guesses.

Furthermore, pick up some fucking knowledge skills if you don't want to metagame. And besides, it isn't too hard even for a layman to figure out how risky something is by visual factors alone.

>>50396494
No, it didn't, I've been dealing with bullshit like this for months, the glass is about to break, I in fact want it to break so I can leave this shit.

>>50396476
But then you're being told the results of your save.

Am I supposed to check every time if I can reroll or not? Obviously not, if he lets me it means I failed AND the DM revealed the results. If he stops me then I succeeded. Either way I'm unable to reroll.

>>50396476
Yes, but the point he's arguing is that YOU don't 'know' for sure.

You can heavily suspect as hard as you like, but you don't KNOW you failed until the DM declares you failed.

It's saying 'when you fail but before results are revealed'

UNLESS 'results are revealed' is in fact in reference to the CONSEQUENCES of failing that roll, but that's another can of worms.

>>50396377
So imagine you roll a 3 with a bonus of +10, can you immediately say whether or not you have failed your save?

>>50396503
No one here even likes Paizo you driveling retard.
Hell, we constantly demand the heads of Jacobs, Buhlman, and Price on a pike around every other day.

>>50396524
Yes. If I have a bonus of 10 then we're going up against critters that have saves higher than 13. I failed.

>>50396517
You're only told the results after the attempted roll. If you failed then the reroll occurs, if you succeeded then the DM can't let you reroll.

>>50396526
Don't bother arguing with him, it's just that troll again.

>>50396534
It has to be a FAILED roll, before the results of the roll are declared.

If he let's me roll, the results of the roll are declared and I failed because he let me roll. I know the results BECAUSE I can reroll.

What was that chart for character sizes again? Y'all know the one I'm talking about, I can't remember everything off-hand.

What category should a musetouched aasimar roll under?

>>50396548
It is a failed/succeeded roll before results are declared.

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>>50396534
>>50396548
You people have failed to account for a single important fact:

Nobody gives a shit, you driveling morons. A good GM will let you roll your reroll when you like because he's either aware of the RAI or he doesn't care enough to contest your assertions about the semantics of a single feat when he wants the game to keep moving.

>>50396436
I remember that thread!
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42926199

>>50396561

2d6+Con for Aasimar, though musetouched might be different.

>>50396561
Aasimar are 2d8+Con IIRC

>>50396572
Oh, no I agree. This is a stupid argument. If RAW makes something worthless just ignore it and go for the most obvious RAI. Nobody made the monk in 3.x actually take -4 for using their unarmed strikes because that was unintended. This reroll is just supposed to be used before the DM says out loud whether or not you failed or succeeded.

>>50396564
It's neither before results are declared because results haven't been declared yet.

>>50396587
I thought 2d8 was Azlanti because they're supposed to be the best of the humans, and Aasimar as 2d10 because
>lolbetterthanhumans

>>50396534
Except you didn't fail fail your saving throw in my imaginary scenario, because you rolled against a DC12 ability that a mook just threw out. Do you get it now?

>>50396596
No. The DC is static. It's set before the roll. The roll just confirms whether or not your meeting or beating that DC. The state becomes set as soon as the die stops moving because you already have your bonuses ready. Then it's declared when the DM gets around to telling people the results that had already been set in stone.

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>>50396613

>>50396627
>Headwings

>>50396578
>>50396587
>>50396613
I feel like the dice should be the same, just each race getting a different static bonus.

>>50396613

Azlanti and Hermean are 2d8, Aasimar are 2d6 and Tiefling are 2d10.

>>50396616
Except I was level 17 with only +10. Why are we going up against DC 12 mooks? Oh, right because you just wanted to create your own set of very specific circumstances where you might be correct.

So if I roll a 20, I'm allowed to reroll before the DM says whether I've succeeded or failed? Because after the die stops moving I've succeeded/failed and I don't know which until the DM tells me.

It should just say you can reroll after the DM tells you.

>>50396654
link the chart

Rolled 1, 7 + 2 = 10 (2d10 + 2)

>>50396613
NTrOracle being a scion of humanity makes sense. Since apparently he was chosen by the moon god.

>>50395742
Fukkin' saved that pic, by the way. Who is that/what's it from?

>>50396701

No idea, just part of my collection!

>>50396655
Of course that's an extreme example because you still don't get it. What if you fight a summoner who mass summons creatures that use SoDs with relatively low DCs? Where do you draw the line between success and failure? 5, 6, 7?

Maybe i should bring back ratgirl from wotr

I liked her more than gamagirly and wulf anyways

>>50396681
Was there ever actually a chart?

>>50396655
>>50396735
It's obvious to you both what the intention of the ability is. Both of you shut the hell up.

Rolled 4, 1 + 2 = 7 (2d4 + 2)

>>50396681
I'm going to assume that skinwalkers are 2d4+con. Here's hoping Silvia isn't too stacked.

>>50396112
Alright, it looks like Second Darkness is in the lead, but what I am hearing here on the board is Iron Gods. I grabbed my copies and reviewed them and I've decided that I'll run Second Darkness and then Iron Gods later.

Now I just need to figure out the allowed races, optional rules and 3pp to use.

>>50396744
there's this one, but it's NSFW and i'm not sure it's the right one

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Assets.png

Rolled 4, 1 + 3 = 8 (2d6 + 3)

>>50396654

Let's see how the bondage paladin is

>>50396790
That is not the right one

>>50396786
... Second Darkness is a pile of shit though. And seriously, 16 votes out of nowhere, when it was at one vote an hour ago?

I think someone may have done some IP manipulation, dude.

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Has anyone else noticed that every SoP Handbook has an Armorist archetype.

>>50396804
It's true, it was me. Go run Iron Gods instead.

>>50396804
Hmm... Then I'll run Iron Gods first then and Second Darkness second.

Still need to figure out races, 3pp and optional rules. Any suggestions?

I bit the bullet and posted Svana in the character thread! I'm super excited for when the game comes and to see what the other players think!
>>50396499
She's got a stunning figure either way and seeing her in a cute, high society dress would be great

>>50396822

As far as 3PP; all DSP stuff is worth allowing. I'm not super into spheres but I understand a lot of people are, so it might be worth allowing, too; anything else case by case, it never hurts to loiok at 3PP anyway. As far as races, in Numeria pretty much anything goes, including wierd stuff; just don't allow anything over 20 RP and you should be fine. Optional rules, I find the feat taxes in here http://michaeliantorno.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/ are good ideas to follow thorugh on; other than that, background skills are heavenly for letting characters get more skill points to spend on flavorful stuff.

>>50396822
I'd recommend allowing DSP stuff - I have no opinion on SoP because I haven't looked into it (I'm one of those weirdos that likes vancian casting)

Races, you should probably just allow on a case-by-case basis. People will apply with what they want, and you can deny the ones that fall outside of what you'd like to go for.

>>50396822
Iron Gods sounds like a hoot then.

>>50396805
It's because by itself, Armorist is a little bit butts.

>>50396790
Yeah, that's not the right one. I found it by looking through the archives.

>Azlanti and Hermean: 2d8
>Ulfen: 2d6
>Mwangi: 2d5
>Taldan, Kellid, Chelish, Keleshite and Garundi: 2d4
>Vuldra and Tien: 2d3

And then
>Kitsune: 2d4 (slight size up from Tien)
>Aasimar: 2d6
>Tiefling: 2d10 (representing gross excess because demons)
>Half-Giants: 2d12+2
>Elves and Dwarves: 2d4
>Half-Orcs: 2d6

And that's about what I can dig up from the archives

>>50396913
What about the tengu?

Why no catfolk?

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>>50396863
The sad thing there are some simple ways of fixing it.
First give it 4+Int skill points instead, and instead of locking armor and weapon abilities behind specific armorist tricks, instead make it so you can take a single trick that can grant any 5 armor or weapon special qualities.
Then, give it tricks that allows you to attune your Bound equipment to a specific Sphere, either granting or enhancing it.
Now its slightly less butts

>>50396913
I just roll 2d4 for my dwarf ? Is that it? Say I rolled 5, what does this 5 actually mean?

>>50396947
The skill points, yeah. The weapon and armor abilities yeah.

In fact, that's the biggest problem with them. They're presented as having Arsenal Tricks, a list of neat shit you can do, but half of them are just 'can put this quality on weapon or armor'.

Which is fucking SHIIIIIT.

>>50396960
5 inches senpai

Fun fact: Gnomes and Elves have the same average dick size for the same Con score (before racial modifiers)

>>50396993
But she's a woman

>>50396999
She's got a 5 inches dick, what's so hard to understand?

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>Hmm, character's looking alright.
>Maybe should start thinking about backstory
>Oh god everyone else's are so long
>Oh god I have almost fucking nothing
>Oh god it's just like those other people in the thread, I'm one of them

>>50396913
what about ratfolk

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>>50397032
>ONE OF US
>ONE OF US
>ONE OF US

>>50396941
>>50397033
Fuck if I know, I just copied it over.

>>50397032
Svanas backstory isn't very long, but she's got a great personality !

>>50397065
I mean what do you even WRITE for a 17-year old?

Her parents were [blank]

Her childhood was like [blank]

She's a spider because [blank]

I could fit all that on a napkin, even accounting for how hard napkins are to write on so you tend to write bigger!

And now I'm wondering if she should be older. Hm.

A guy in Discord claims that Paizo is pozzed. Is this true?

>>50397118
Pozzed?

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>>50397118
The fuck does pozzed mean.

>>50397118
No, stop repeating that shit. Nobody cares. It's just that one spammer repeating over and over again that paizo is going out of business.

>>50397126
>>50397127
A term for HIV positive I think.

>>50397118
Considering they're expanding their line? Probably not.

>>50397126
>>50397127
Right wing term for bad/liberal from what I understand. Referencing bugchasers who would deliberately infect themselves with STD's because it was there fetish.


It's just a /pol/faggot trolling.

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>>50397065

Svana is an adorable cinnamon bun and it's a damn shame I don't have any SFW art that would work for her figure.

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Should the Tactician and Vitalist's Collective count as "being able to link minds together" for Thrallherd's prerequisites?

Also, is Tactician/Thrallherd a good combo? Seems flavorful.

>>50397152
It's probably the shitseeker faggot again.

>>50396999

Bust sizes are the roll divided by 2, so your Dwarf would be 5/2 = 2.5, aka "heavy" B cups.

It's a gross and clunky system, but the best we've got.

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>>50397173
there's only one way to deal with him ya know

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>>50397207
Ignore them and picture titles?

>>50397207
Bake him a cake?

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>>50397222
something like that

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>>50397207

I don't like the cut of your jib, anon.

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>>50397234
whats wrong with rei ayanami the fiery red head from germany?

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>>50397243

Her unwillingness to get in the FUCKING robot.

>>50397228
>filename

I shouldn't have laughed.

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>>50397264
at least she has a nine mom

>>50397113
If I had gone with the rolled age, Svana would have been 16. I decided to make her 21 instead, because a busty, motherly 16 year old isn't a very nice image IMO Just write about her family, what terms they're on, her friends, her education and/or training, where she's from, why she left, etc. I'd suggest making her 20 or so though aren't there a whole bunch of people in their late twenties through mid thirties anyway?
And
>>50397163
Finding some usable art for her is going to take me quite a bit of work, maybe I could find some non wereboar art and ask someone to edit it though.
I don't know what it means when you say she's a cinnamon bun

>>50397273
meant nice. Fuck

>>50397274
Most applicants seem to be in their early to mid 20's.

>>50397274
Well she's 17 on the assumption that there's that 4-year skip after book one, which would put her at 21 for the majority of the game.

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>>50397274

Cinnamon buns are soft, delicious and warm. Cinnamon buns are pure, too pure for this poisoned world, and because of that they are worth jealously guarding from the horrors that await them should they venture forth uncarefully.

It's a joke started by an Onion article.

>Finding some usable art for her is going to take me quite a bit of work

How's this, senpai? If you want the eye or hair color changed just ask in the Drawthreads, edits like that take no time for the people there.

>>50397032
Or just don't have an over stuffed backstory that will be boring to read.
Honestly, think about it from the gms perspective, if someone handed you your backstory wanting to play in your game would you read it? And as you read it try to think about would you want this character in your game if you were running it.

>>50397274
I use spoilers too much
>>50397293
I could have sworn it was a bunch of old farts...
>>50397303
Shieeet, I forgot about the 4 year skip
>>50397353
Nah, it doesn't really fit the image I have of her at all
so cinnamon bun is a compliment, thanks!

>>50396524
Yeah, unless you're level 1 dealing with level 1 things, it's pretty much a certain fail.

There's a tiny handful of things like level 1 spells on someone with bad stats that could have a 12 or 13 dc, and the weakest special effect save in the game is the DC 14 on the beam cannon AoEs (despite how expensive they are, because fuck you said paizo, fuck you and everyone you love) so if you roll a 3 and have +10 it would be extremely surprising if that was anything but a fail.

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>>50397403
>I could have sworn it was a bunch of old farts...

The only old fart is Casimir, who's apparently going to be in his late 40s/early 50s by campaign start.

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Alright, my Iron Gods game is more or less prepped and ready.

https://app.roll20.net/join/1821025/C6_lfg

Has part 3 of Strange Aeons been dropped yet?

>>50397428
Jesus Christ, will he talk about "those darn youngsters" and "the good old days, when a longsword was just 10 coppers"?
For any adventurer that isn't a wizard, 30+ is "old fart" tier IMO.

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>>50396973
Goddamn insult is what it was.

>As a class ability, you're allowed to purchase a different subcomponent, of a class ability, that you'll pay for! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

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>>50397403
>>50397428
Pretty sure the median age is somewhere around 24. Think someone collected all the ages at one point, but I don't know if they ever got posted; of course the actual average is probably going to be a bit skewed when you take into account certain races, since we've got at least one fag that's 100+

>>50397461
Sweet. gonna go toss together an App.

>>50397465
>Jesus Christ, will he talk about "those darn youngsters" and "the good old days, when a longsword was just 10 coppers"?

I gosh darn hope not!

>>50397428
Razmiran priestess is in her 40s, but I'm in a really bad headspace right now.

>>50397594
>but I'm in a really bad headspace right now.

Mind giving us an idea on what's just not clicking?

>>50397403
>Shieeet, I forgot about the 4 year skip
Most of the backstories also seem to not be assuming there's a timeskip. I don't know how that got started.

>>50397614
Pretty sure we don't know if there WILL be a timeskip, or if the GM will just skip right to the first book of JR.

Does anyone have the stats for a meat-dragon?

the villain to my campaign may or may not be an awakened / possessed llama.

>>50397613
Oh, it's nothing game related. It's just Holiday depression, shorter sun time, that kinda stuff. Nothing really bad.

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>>50397628
Probably mash together the stats for a dragon and a flesh golem.

>>50397461
"Any core (except occult)"

But why.jpg

>>50397553
I sure hope so
>>50397614
I hope there isn't one, that would fuck with Svana quite a bit.

>>50397680
>>50397461
Seconding this, why can't we play as Kineticists, Occultists, or Spiritualists?

What's the likelihood that a given male half-elf in Golarion will experience gay thoughts? It won't affect my character concept either way, so I need some kind of random chart to decide.

>>50397381
Honestly, from my experiences on Roll20 and ttrpgs in general "can follow directions" and "doesn't utterly violate the laws of the setting" have pretty much been the only requirements/indications of getting in.

>>50397700
100%

>>50397465
You're too used to JRPGs.

Back when all the computator roleplay games were all on the scantrons, your character's age would just be the fifth and sixth cards that we'd slipped in between the weather formulae.

We didn't have time to slip a third - or c7 as we called it - in there because of the war, so we had to improvise. Rogers who was your grandfather's younger friend from Cornwall - the Canada Cornwall not the British Cornwall, because Canada was starting to be its own separate country at the time - designing a flag and everything, interesting part, that. They use bright red as if it were all excited and special but it's just the water, and in the middle there's a maple leaf, because they have a lot of maples there you know. They didn't use geese because of the war. Anyways, there was this huge argument about exactly what size the flag should be, and that was when old man Pearson - well he was just Lester at the time, but we called him Mike, because of the war. Lester wasn't a good name for an airman - that was in Brittan you know - we'd go all the way over there because the Elizabeth had just become our queen, so they had him changed to mike, like the onion he was wearing 'round his belt. We were the lucky ones that had the red onions; they only gave the yellow onions to civilians because of the war. When I used to grow onions my pappy - that's your grandpappy you know, he'd tell me to make sure the temperature doesn't fall under twenty cent-eye grades. I'd only finished third grade, so twenty was definitely a lot better instructed than I was. My teacher was Miss Tabernacky; she quit her job to become Mrs... uh, Mrs.Jones I think. With George Jones. George was one of the mechanics on the Canadian National back when it was still taking some passengers, and you'd get the hobos - train pigeons we'd call them - riding on the tracks sometimes if we couldn't shoo them off. The tracks used some impressive wooden beams; Hard to do nowadays without those fa~

>>50397628
>>50397656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49j6_uk0g3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzaBq4ycWg

What would be the most broken 1st level Wizard spell to be able to cast at-will as an SLA?

>>50397763
But then who was phone?
And more importantly
What did he mean by this?
>>50397787
Magic missile

>>50397428

That's going to make relationships awkward, wouldn't it? He's old enough to be the father of any female PC in the group.

>>50397827
nothing wrong with a sugardaddy anon

>>50397827
So? Some PCs are probably old enough to be the grandfather of most of the female PCs

>>50397825
"20 is a geezer" mostly came from the japs. In manga/anime (you know what those 14 year old girls look like in those, but also the middle school guys that look like mafia bodybuilders in their mid 40s).

Used to be many much older heroes; still are in regular comics.

>>50397945
Jotaro looks like the average 17 year old, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>50397945
Well there's a difference between "actually old" and "adventurer old". Actually old starts at 50s or so, adventurer old starts at 30s or so.

You guys reckon Kurgess would look down upon items like Muleback Cords?
Not for competitions but for everyday use.

>>50397993
It depends for what reason.

He wouldn't mind if you use them to do some extraordinary feats, like saving the world, and need to be at your physical peak and unrestrained.

>>50397945
Careful, you'll bring out that "Christmas cakes is a stupid term" troll.

>>50398011
Well, I don't think my character will ever take off the Muleback Cords or Heavyload Belt, so I'll be super-strong constantly.
I am rolling up a monster slayer though so I'll need the strength frequently.
You could argue I should take that stuff off in town, I suppose.

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Which PoW maneuver best emulates the ultimate fighting technique, the BALL BUSTER?

>>50398053
Kurgess also doesn't mind how you win, as long as you play fair and square. As long as you respect the rules of a competition, you can even think outside of the box and win. He wants you to give everything *but* your dignity to win, basically.

>>50398086
Shards of Iron strike.

>>50398091
Kurgess sounds like an even better pick, now.
Sweet.

>>50397168

Collectives count.

So out of all the RotJR applications, who's the most waifuable?

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> Player wants friend/lab partner in game
> "yea anon. His name is [Slavic Noises]"
> look him up on Facebook
> big guy
> dude looks like he belongs mugging people in Minsk for vodka money
> all his pics are him and his shady friends in foreign streets at night
> plan to meet this guy before game night falls through
> player gives he his char sheet
> "oh yea he looks a bit shady, but he's a good dude anon"
> read char sheet
> motha fukken Ifrit Magical Child Vigilante
> Age: 16
> Seems to be straight up magical girl with short temper
I'm honestly impressed. This is the dudes first game. I was expecting "Half Orc Fighter" or "Human Paladin"

>>50398701
I hope someone says me, but they probably won't.

>>50398701
Not me.

>>50398701

Best Waifu: Song Lilin (though Svana is growing on me.)

Best Husbando: Etan "Gil" Remiel (he's just so fluffy!)

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>>50398746
You are!

>>50398746
Me too anon, me too.

>>50398701
Not mine and that's just the way I like it.

>>50398746
Welcome to the pits of non-memehood.

Best get comfy, you'll be here for a while.

Honestly I've given up on the RotJR game because i apparently can't write interesting backstories so who gives a shit.

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>>50398701
>Amandia is a smile and innocence literally made to be protected
>Onryou is the kind of pal you'd want to fight battles back to back with
>Shizuka hits all the buttons for "bookish, reclusive girl"
>Silvia sounded like the kind of girl desperately in need of someone to pat her on the head and recognize that she is indeed a good girl
>Etan's feat selection has some serious implications

>>50398807
I almost wish to be a meme.

>>50398815
Same here, Senpai.

>>50398746
Yeah, I want to be too, but my character's just too weird to make a good waifu for most folks.

>>50398815
Nobody about your characters apparently.

>>50398818
Who's Etan or Amandia?

>>50398822
Its pretty demoralizing.

>>50398830
thanks i noticed that fuckhead.

>>50398838
Well at least someone noticed you at all.

>>50398815
>because i apparently can't write interesting backstories so who gives a shit.

Like 75% of the backstories there were distilled into something "interesting" right here in the /pfg/.

Which character is yours?

>>50398838
Which character are you? Maybe we could help.

>>50398851
>>50398852
not really interested in going through again

Maybe in like a month i'll have a decent idea again but for now fuck it.

>>50398701
Mine
No I won't say who they are.
>>50398815
That's what I said, it just took a few tries. Three specifically, third times the charm I suppose. It only counts if the first two are genuine though!

>>50398867
Press "F" to pay respects

>>50398867
I doubt you ever had a creative thought in your entire life. If you did you wouldn't be so desperately fishing for attention.

>>50398888
Yeah probably.

Making difficult encounters for a 7 player party at level 3 is a challenge.

I should have thought this through.

>>50398905
>7 player party

Nigga you gotta have like CR+6 or something encounters for that sheeet

>>50398867
F

>>50398913
Or just twice as many critters. Which would only be +2cr

>>50398913
I have made a grave mistake in letting so many of my friends join.

Like a Wyrmling black dragon isn't even close to being a threat, fug

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>>50398905

This is the future you chose, anon. Every player added is a multiplier to the difficulty in making a solid CR because, surprise surprise, action economy starts swinging hard in the player's favor.

>>50398832
>Who's Etan or Amandia?

Amandia is pic related.

>>50398925
Use more enemies instead of a single strong enemy.

I'm running a 12th level oneshot tomorrow, and there is a cursed item they need to take somewhere, but it's absolutely critical that they aren't able to remove the curse in order for the plot to function.

How can I ensure that 12th level PCs are unable to 'fix' a cursed object?

>>50398934
Minor artifact?

>>50398934
>How can I ensure that 12th level PCs are unable to 'fix' a cursed object?

Same way you couldn't simply smash the One Ring or throw it into the sun.

The magic that binds the curse to the object is not something you simply wish away, it requires a special place and special conditions.

>>50398932
The players have said they don't like encounter with a bunch of cannon fodder enemies being thrown at them.

Maybe encounters that are two medium strength enemies instead of one super strong enemy...

>>50398934
Make it like an vanilla artifact, with a very specific method to destroy it which you can just make up.

>>50398946
two lieutenants and a bruiser

>>50398946
You don't have to use a hoard of enemies, but you should be using less powerful but more numerous monsters in general

this guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nx-o8VAjhUwh3nnfzDQT-JA5eFLnN_BZJiBitGjBMDg/edit

Also helps with mathing all that CR out and determining what your party really needs to challenge them.

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>>50398832
>Who's Etan

>>50398832
Etan is the fox-glassblower who wants to become a hero, assuming things haven't changed.