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No, Luna is the DM's girlfriend, who insisted on being "OH SO QUIRKY AND KOOKY" and annoyed the shit out of everyone else, further proving girls shouldn't play ttrpgs.

Only applies to movie potts characters

>>50385560
Gay man here. This isn't limited to girlfriends, it's limited to GM's Significant Others who get dragged into playing.

>>50385413
Are the books worth reading? I never did and all my college friends love them.

>>50386136
They're pretty fun. Plenty of plot holes, though. They're closer to mystery novels than fantasy novels.

>>50386136
>>50386198
Good young adult books, but like he said lots of holes and such for triggering autism. But worth a read imo. Not worth a re-read though, as they seem a bit formulaic plotwise

>>50386136
>Are the books worth reading?

The early books are kid quality and progressively get more adult. They all have their flaws but if you're looking to get wrapped up in a magical themed school setting with lots of character and style, it's pretty good reading. There's things Rowling should have done different that was done in the movies but the books have sooooo much more detail.

>>50386136
I don't think anybody could make you an unbiased recommendation.
Most people read them while in elemetary school and the through highschool I guess, and they enjoyed it as kids.

Nowadays I know many people who occasionally re-read the books, some eve regularly so (like: every year).

they're growing up, coming off age and mystery novels mostly, with some nice worldbuilding and very good storytelling pace.
(as opposed to, say, GRRM, who does 250% of what is neccessary worldbuilding, and has his storylines so dislocated and spread out, that they barely progress at all)

I would recommed the Harry Potter books,
but you may not enjoy them as much as someone who read them as a child

>>50386136
Truly they are more about the adventures of the wizarding world than the actual story

>>50385413
>Patronus, the best attack spell

But that's wrong, you idiot.

>>50386362
but it's true, because it creates a surrogate which will fight in your stead and leaves you free to cast more spells. It will go at people attacking you - or even convey messages or items.

Imagine the difference:
> Dark Wizard
> enough offesive Power to match any light wizard
> enough protective spells to keep himself safe
> NO happy place to conjure up a Patronus

vs

> Light Wizard / Auror
> Fires up Patronus
> keeps up in offesive and defensive spells

the patronus basically is one extra body and fighting hand, if you can do it, and your opponent cant - then you already outnumber him 2 v 1 :)

>>50386455
The Patronus can't fight though. It's not like a summoned creature. The only thing they're useful for is repelling Dementors and passing messages to people.

>>50386136
As >>50386233 says, they're best enjoyed while growing up (reading them as they came out, which roughly coincided with going up a year in school was the actual best way to read them), but they're pretty good, even if they do have some plot holes and don't codify and spell out everything, and can get a bit episodic.

>>50386856
They're also capable of repelling Lethifolds.

>>50385413
If Harry's player was like that, he didn't start that way. Especially since it seemed like he put most on the points into Brooming Riding and Sports early on.

Also, Patronus was only learned AFTER it began to seem like a Dementor heavy campaign. It'd be like if you figured out you'd be fighting a lot of undead and then dipped into Paladin or Cleric in order to deal with that.

How would you do schooltime in a Harry Potter rpg?
We played a short campaign a few years ago, but since studying meant we learned new spells and got good grades, we barely went adventuring at all and spent most of our time at the library.
We also sold corrected assignments (and magical weed in 7th year).

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>>50385413
>GM: Your characters are gonna be wizards at a wizarding school
>Harry's player: A school game? I want my wizard to be a jock! Like the star quaterback
>GM: They wouldn't have football at a wizard school. Wizard culture is different.
>Harry's Player: But every big school has a sport's program. Wait, would wizards have their own kind of sports using magic!?
>GM (panicking): Yeah... of course they do! It's called.... umm.... Quiditch
>GM hurriedly tries to write down rules for the wizard sport in about of three minutes, not thinking them through

>>50387133
Quiditch gotta be the most bullshit fictional sport ever invented.
>oh, you dominated your opponents 140-0 but their plot relevant characters only player happened to catch the macguffing? too bad, you lose

Years ago I remember working with a few other people on /tg/ to put together Harry Potter & the Roleplayer's Game but I have no idea what happened to it.

>>50387133
>But every big school has a sport's program
Incidentally, totally not the case in the UK, where almost all recruiting is done from junior leagues and amateurs - school sports are not something anyone really cares about

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>>50387121
>enchanted drugs

oh god, I just want to know about. Please tell me the GM described the experience. That's like some next level shit.

I think an entire setting info spin off book like the Fantastic Beasts or history of Quidich book could be written just about recreational mind altering spells alone.

>>50387197
*know about that

>>50387197
Well, I found a patch of unknown plants near the forbidden forest, and tried various experiments at the alchemical lab to see if I could itentify it or use it for something, and to upgrade my herboristery skills. It was a complete failure, until I asked the GM how the extract smelled.
I'm not sure if the fumes actually caused an astral projection or if that was a mere hallucination, but I levitated through Hogwarts while seeing its multidimentional architecture, with other psychedelic stuff and memories of things yet to come. It was neat. The experience lasted a few days, and the party didn't carry me to the infirmary because they were afraid of being punished (we didn't have a very good track record). The second attempt, made to spy on the teachers and see the test questions in advance, wasn't successful. I went through the lake and ended in some deep caverns with Chthonian entities singing around me.
I only sold very diluted stuff.

All things considered, it was a pretty good campaign. We acted like teenagers given magic powers, one PC had to be saved from her on-the-run wife-beater vampire dad (he just wanted to see her, in a psychotic undead way), another PC went into paintings to party every night, the third one sold priceless artefacts to a caped figure that was probably Voldemort to gain funds for the IRA, and I dated a ghost.

>>50387585
>one PC had to be saved from her on-the-run wife-beater vampire dad (he just wanted to see her, in a psychotic undead way), another PC went into paintings to party every night, the third one sold priceless artefacts to a caped figure that was probably Voldemort to gain funds for the IRA, and I dated a ghost.

Guess that you were those guys who will spend next couple decades by starring in various stories circulating among the student body.

>>50385413
Why is patronus the most powerful attack spell? It only works on dementors

>>50385560
Half my current group are girls. Half my last group were girls. Half the group before that were girls. Is there a particular reason half the people I've ever played with shouldn't have played?

>>50387167
It's somewhat mitigated because the games are supposed to last over several sessions so catching the Snitch isn't usually that much of a game changer.

>>50385413
Not quite true. You'll notice that Harry usually doesn't actually *do* that much, spellcasting wise - in D&D terms he tends to muddle along and then have big plot relevant stuff spring on him like the end of the fourth book with the magic wand lightning duel with Voldemort - it reads like Harry and Ron are new players, Ron knows the setting pretty well while Harry is a bit more competent. Hermione's clearly quite experienced at RPGs and a powergamer, but the kind of powergamer that uses their optimisation to support the other players and make them feel useful.

>>50388459
I'd say Harry is more of a meta guy who's good at fast-talking the GM. He's an average wizard (though very good at Defense Against the Dark Arts due to sheer experience) but he always ends up with the right plot device to get out of trouble.

>>50386962
That's because lethifolds are just Alolan Dementors. It's still a spell that's only useful against a handful of similar creatures.
If there's a spell Harry put a ridiculous amount of points into, it's Expelliarmus.

>>50388484
>>50388459
Harry has dice luck. Pure and simple. His entire backstory is based on rolling nat 20's on saves. I bet when he said he wanted to be the one guy who survived voldemort the GM forced him to roleplay out the origin, and was stuck when the fucker rolled super high to resist killing curse

>>50388515
No player would get so many high rolls unless their dice were loaded.

>>50388543
Wasn't Harry explicitly good at cheating in universe too?

Or am I thinking of Ron's brothers.

On that Subject, Ron wasn't UP, he just spent all his karma on badass contacts

What if Harry played with the GM in the past (as James) and is one of those players who plays almost the same character every time. He got killed in an eventual TPK last game so he's got plot bullshittery to play Not!James and finish beating the big bad.
"it's not the same character, this one has GREEN eyes. Totally different."

>>50388515
Things like gillyweed are what's convincing me of the lack of metagaming - the DM got frustrated that the plot event was coming up soon and Harry had still not figured out a way to breathe underwater (a good metagamer would have just asked a fucking teacher 'hey know of a way to breathe underwater with magic?'), so he had an NPC give him gillyweed.

>>50388583
The Tournament was really the GM giving up on pretending this was anything else than Harry's campaign.

>Ron's player: This is bullshit. What do we get to do?
>GM: Hm? I don't know, you have to invite someone to prom or some bullshit.

>>50388430
Yeah, 'cuz girls are icky.

>>50388582
>Previous Party were the four Marauders,
>Pettigrew was That Guy, and betrayed the others, leading to James being killed, but not before he sets a magic trap on his kid to fuck Voldemort's shit up with a spur-of-the-moment plan the party came up with
>James dies, but Voldy's gone for the moment as well.
>Peter's player leaves the group, and GM decides it's time for a Timeskip.
>The remaining three are on board with starting from schoolkids again, so they make Harry, Ron, and Hermione
>The GM lets Ron and Hermione's players take control of Lupin and Sirius when they come up in the story again

>>50388616
He learnt his lesson for the next stretch of the Campaign when Ron and Hermione's players got their own decent plots.

>>50388621
>Neville started out as a joke character to make fun of Peter
>the player ended up liking him enough that the GM gave him his own backstory and moments to shine

>>50386232
Ron is also a good character in the books rather than being the bumbling retard he is in the films

>>50388616
>Ron's player: This is dumb my characters just going to go with Hermione anyway.
>Hermione's player: well actually.....
>Ron's player: NOW THIS REALLY IS BULLSHIT!

>>50388582
Literally every player ever, that's all anyone ever does. Sure the reskins might be a little more comprehensive- like changing alignments or class- but ultimately its the same player withe the same sense of enjoyment and fun, playing a game for fun and personal wish fulfillment.

>>50388621
Imagine the "oh shit" moment when the character the Marauders had been bullying for seven years ended up a teacher.

>>50386455
Wtf are you even talking about, a patronus can't fucking fight anything, they are literally ghosts made up of your happy thoughts which shields you against Dementors and similar creatures and make them go away. They can't fucking fight, they can't fucking cast spells as they are not wizards, they can't even touch other things. You can make them deliver messages and make them protect you against a very specific subclass of species that are nasty but not all too common.

Also the argument that it leaves you free to cast more spells is really retarded because almost all spells do that and a Patronus EXPLICITLY DOES NOT. It is a difficult spell with upkeep that requires at least some part of your consciousness to concentrate on the happiest thing you can think of right now, so it is literally one of the only spells that can't do what you just fucking praised it for.

How the FUCK is that the best attack spell? The "best" attack spell Harry invests heavily in is Expeliarmus or maybe Stupor, both staples of Harry, though the evil guys explicitly categorize Expelliarmus as Harrys staple because they wouldn't really use it themselves as a general purpose spell but Harry does.

The real BEST best attack spell is Avada Kedavra because it literally can't be blocked and causes instant death, which Harry has no investment in.

>>50388712

>THE ENEMY CASTER CANNOT KILL YOU IF YOU DISABLE HIS WAND

>>50388650
>"Oh goddammit, we only tied with Slytherin."
>"You'd think killing one of the greatest evil wizards in the world AGAIN would be worth a few more points."
>"Sorry guys, that's all the points Dumbledore is awarding the three of you. Maybe if you hadn't needed so many hints you'd have gotten more."
>"C'mon, one of us must have done SOMETHING to tip us over the edge."
>"Wait. It doesn't have to be us. Any Gryffindor will do, right?."
>"What do you mean?"
>"Neville tried to stop us for our own good, and the good of our house."
>"Yeah, he should get points!"
>"Good old Neville, he's a model Gryffindor!"
>"................."
>"Well? C'mon, it takes guts to stand up to your enemies but it takes more to stand up to your friends."
>"We're friends now?"
>"Shhh! We need the points."
>"...Ten points for Gryffindor."
>"YEEEEEEEEEEAH!"

>>50388709
>"You walk into the Potions class, and take your seats. At the front of your class is your Potions teacher. He introduces himself as Severus Snape."
>"What."
>"Fuck, we made his life a living hell."
>"That wasn't us, dude. We're in the clear."
>"But doesn't your new guy look exactly like James?"
>"...Oh no."
>Maniacal GM Laughter

>>50388674
i was speaking specifically of looking at Harry Potter as a campaign. James and Harry are really similar enough to be a player playing the same character twice in two parts of one overarching story.
I agree with you that players play what's fun, and that there's inevitably going to be a lot of similarities between one player's various characters.
Harry really seems like he could be James' player coming up with bullshit reasons to keep playing James even though he died.

>>50388732
>"Your minmaxing has gotten out of hand. Your character doesn't know anything about being a wizard and is functionally illiterate."
>"Well, we have that nerdy chick character for Knowledge checks. What's the worst that could happen?"
>"We're in a school. With exams."
>"Whatever."

>"Alright, he wants to see if your character takes more from his mother or from James. Roll a Knowledge (Potions) check."
>"Fuck."

>>50388712
I don't know?
> tonks patronus
> goes from hogsmeade to the castle to inform of harrys late arrival
oh, so obviously they can convey messages, huh?

> Snapes Patronus
> plants the sword of gryffindor
> for harry and ron to find
huh, so they can carry things

I am also 100% sure, having re-read the novels just two weeks ago, that the patronus was also at least once used by someone in the books, to physically combat an opponent.

>>50389134
How the hell does a doe plant a sword?

>>50389134
> Snapes Patronus
> plants the sword of gryffindor
> for harry and ron to find
no it leads them to where it was hidden, it didn't plant it

>>50389134
Snape planted that shit, the Doe was just to get them there when he was done.

>>50389134
Did you even read the books?

First instance of a speaking Patronus is implied when Dumbledore sends one to Hagrid to come and escort Harry back to the castle after Harry led Dumbledore to where he found the confused Barty Crouch Senior in the forbidden forrest with Victor.
The Order uses this extensively, its how they allways send each other messages after the second rise of Voldemort, its how Mr. Weasly informs the three at Grimold Place that everyone escaped. Again, what the fuck are you even talking about?

Also, Snapes fucking Patronus didn't deliver the damn sword, Snapes own memories literally show us that he placed the sword there and send his patronus to lead Harry there without him knowing it was Snape, the fucking Patronus didn't do jack shit. He even talks to Dumbledores portrait about all this.

>>50389432
that's wrong though,
he sent his patronus to bring them the sword,
because he could not leave hogwarts without blowing his cover. this is even explained later i the novel

>>50389482
See
>>50389477

>>50389134
>I am also 100% sure, having re-read the novels just two weeks ago, that the patronus was also at least once used by someone in the books, to physically combat an opponent.

Fucking bullshit, stop spreading this nonsense. I just finished my re-read two hours ago, this NEVER HAPPENED. Patronuses can not engage in physical contact. Harrys Patronus ramms some Dementors with its Horns but that is the closest any Patronus gets to "combat", and that only works BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING DEMENTOR

>>50389482
Did you even read what I wrote? Do you seriously want me to search an english pdf of the novel just to give you the quote.

Snape placed the sword under the ice

He is standing behind the tree where both Harry and Ron noticed something and where they conclude the gifter stood watching them.

We literally know from Snapes last memories that he told Dumbledores portrait he stood behind the tree and watched Harry find the sword.

He is headmaster of Hogwarts so he all the restrictions on magical travel do not apply to him, he can use any of a good dozen magical methods to dissapear from Hogwarts at any time he wants, unlike any other person in Hogwarts. He can disapear any time he wants and nobody would ever find out.

Why would you go on and on and on spreading this misinformation nonsense when you claim to have re-read the novels two weeks ago? fucking kys

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>>50389134
Snape placed the sword himself, go re-read the memory chapter at the end of hallows. The patronus just attracts harry because hes fucked in the head.

Unless you count scaring the shit out of draco, but not really hurting him, patronuses dont attack people.

Go get some reading comprehension and come back.

>>50386136

As others have said the best time to read them was when you were growing up but they're still worth a read, especially if you've not watched the movies.

It is a book that's enjoyable for its world building rather than the quality of the writing. There is a fuck load of boring teenage stuff though.

>>50388583

Im pretty sure staff weren't allowed to help. Hagrid only helped because it's harry and moody only helped because he wanted harry to get to voldemort.

>>50389843
And Cedric helped Harry with the egg to thank him for the warning about the dragons.

Man, Cedric was the last person Cursed Child should have butchered.

>>50388621

Which character would the guy who controlled peter control in next game? Draco? Scabbers?

>dude why are you playing as a rat?

>>50389909
Draco isn't that prominent to the plot or does much with the Trio.

As for Scabbers, the players would really have to avoid any sort of metagaming or else Prisoner of Azkaban would have gone very differently.

>>50389909
Peter's player got kicked from the group for being a tool and doing a TOTALLY EPIC CE BETRAYAL GUYS LOL IM JUST PLAYING THE CHARACTER

>>50389995
Sirius was pretty That Guy too, I could see the other players buying that he sold James out.

>>50385934
That's a separate issue, with it being more of just gay people being terrible at games if they reveal themselves to be gay.

>>50390055
In what respect?

>>50390535
Mostly he was the worst at bullying, going as far as tricking Snape into bumping into Lupin during a full moon.

There's also the cliché "from an evil family, but actually a good guy".

By contrast Peter seems basically nondescript prior to his betrayal.

>>50390535
Sirous was played as a That Guy who seduced every character he could, complained about his dark and evil family of which tortured his poor chaotic good soul, and tried to kill a child npc he hated despute being 'good.'

He later played Ron as a chill pure blood who maxed his contacts and probably had average stat rolls.

Remus' player is probably the best roleplayer who seriously gets into role and knows the system. Played a smart, disadvantaged character because he likes the handicap while also allowing him to make decent plans IC because he knows his fellow players don't give a fuck.

Peter was a classic That Guy and dickass theif who the GM turned into a joke later. Did not return for the next game

James was a jerk who just played like he knew it was an rpg and didn't take things seriously till the second try of the campaign. Really grew into RPing.

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>>50388724

Underrated post

>>50390598
>By contrast Peter seems basically nondescript prior to his betrayal.

Best kind of backstabber then, the guys who foreshadow and pre-flag their stabbing attempts are the worst kind of backstabbers.

>>50387188
My DM has made a Harry Potter RPG using the powered by the apocalypse system. It's in playtesting now, but it works surprisingly well. It's not designed for school age games, but it covers the majority of the character archetypes well enough.

>>50389164
Using a strap-on?

>>50388430
Several.
> A week every month their emotions are out of control, making roleplaying inconsistent at best, and downright irritating at worst.
> Higher chance of inter-party dating with women and men together. This could lead to problems down the line.
> Sexual tension.
> The amount of orbiting.
> The high levels of depression among women, which is another bitch to deal with.
> The general amount of bitching that comes OOCly. (On par with most 'That Guys')
> The general superiority that comes from women players.

Not to say that all women players are bad, and I know most of these are subjective. But they are of a smaller stock and therefor are often just taken in due to being females. If you can find legitimate female players who don't cause the above listed problems, more power to you.

I just find it's easier to stick to an all Male party. It's more relaxed, guys don't bother trying to impress the females, and it's more about the game. It just works better for party cohesion when it's a bunch of bros or chicks, rather than bros AND chicks.

>>50392120
>I never interacted with any female
>EVER

Jesus Christ, it's like you were even rised without a mother.

>>50392120
This is what true autism looks like.

Have you ever watched anything other than anime? Be honest.

>>50386136
If you never read them before hitting, say, 15, there is literally no point touching them now. You are simply too old to endure them without constant eye-rolling and wondering what the fuck everyone saw in them.

So sorry, it's one of those phenomenas that could be only experienced first-hand. Like the original hype foor Blair Witch Project, which is just fucking horribly bad movie when taken outside of the context behind it.

>>50392120
>A week every month their emotions are out of control, making roleplaying inconsistent at best, and downright irritating at worst.

See, this is the thing that pisses me off. Women don't automatically turn into crazy, emotional wrecks the second their period starts. They just have to deal with cramps and shit. It's not fucking fun, and the "oh hur durr you seem angry, must be on the rag" meme needs to die.

Also, guys are WAY more prone to mood swings. Their dicks grab their full attention every five fucking minutes.

>>50392120

>/tg/

>Guy in charge of school is gay
>Name him Headmaster

Brava

Harry Potter LARPs are decently common in Yurop, any of you guys participated in one?

>>50392120
You're right. But you didn't take into account the higher levels of suicide among men, meaning that you'll lose players left and right.
Seriously, I'm ready to play with a bunch of harpies if it means that I won't have to look for new guys all the time, and take the time to introduce them to the campaign only to find them hanging in their attic two sessions later.

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>>50392265
>take the time to introduce them to the campaign only to find them hanging in their attic two sessions later

best response

>>50392247
>Harry Potter LARPs are decently common in Yurop
What drugs are you taking?
Alternatively, how British are you on scale from 1 to Union Jack?

>>50392247
>Headmaster is just a headmaster
>Make him gay 3 years after the actual book series ended, because you are desperate for any second in the lime light you can get

>>50392184
I disagree, I read the first couple when I was a k8d, but came back to them last year (i'm 28) and I enjoyed them. They aren't totally mind blowing, but they are decent, and you can blow through even the thickest of them in an afternoon.

>>50392265
>his players don't shoot themselves left and right

Lucky bastard, cleaning brain matter and gore off the walls is fucking pain in the ass.

>>50392312
>I read the first couple when I was a k8d
>but came back to them last year
At least be fucking consistent in your "logic". To qualify, you would have to read them for the first time at the age of 27. You didn't.
Stay invalid, Steve

>>50392312
Which brings us to my original point - you read them before hitting the "too old for this" mark

>>50392297
>how British are you on scale from 1 to Union Jack?
I'd say roughtly Jeanne d'Arc.
I went to a con where a danish and a hungarian larper both talked about it, and I've seen three Harry Potter LARPs in France this year, without particularly looking for it.

>>50392318
Well, we play mostly fantasy, and they have the decency not to kill themselves with anacronistic methods. I've heard of a space-opera player that ate some uranium, though.

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>>50392318
Couldn't find a clean version of this, annoyingly.

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>>50392471
>Lycanthrope: The Rape
Surprisingly accurate

>>50392505
Domo arigato, anon.

>>50388815
>more from his mother

Makes me wonder what Snape would have done if Harry been a potions pro lile his mom or even just in slytherin.

>>50392736
Snape deserved better.
I fucking love the 'hardass teacher is a hardass because he expects the best of his students and is secretly a total badass' trope.
My disgust when nobody in Slytherin stuck around for the final battle was incalcuable. Snape would have honestly made a better protagonist than Harry.

>>50393196
My favourite Snape moment is in the sixth book where Hermione gives a rote answer and Snape points out that memorising shit from a curriculum book a few weeks early isn't actually very impressive.

Snape is the kind of teacher that I loved at university, he made people who didn't actually know their shit so mad.

>>50393196
Actually they came back with a shit ton of support from around the country in the second half after initially leaving. At least according to Rowling, I don't remember in the book if they did.

>>50393196
The whole concept behind slytherin could have been done better. The way it panned out, Slytherin was the evil coward house and Gryffindor was the valiant hero house, discounting the few exceptions. Ravenclaw was the "supporting cast who doesn't reallt fit into Gryffindor or Slytherin because they aren't overtly good or evil" house, Hufflepuff was "idk man I wrote another Pure Good Guy™ but I don't want another gryffindor"

>>50393268
When you're a kid, you think Snape is a fucking asshole. When you look back as an adult, you realize that he's what a teacher should be.

>>50393429

Intentionally asking questions beyond a childs knowledge level as a riddle thay hints towards his affection for the kids mum (that the kid wouldn't be able to work out) that only results in him being embarrassed in front of the whole class on the first day?

Hating a fellow teacher and getting him fired because you were bullied by his friends as a kid?

>>50393393

There definitely should have been better examples of the "good" slytherin qualities.

Also a muggle in slytherin could have been an interesting character.

>>50393649
Or the favoritism.

>>50393429
No, Snape's a fucking cunt who relentless bullied Harry, favored his own house with points for the same stuff he mocked Granger for, and turned Neville into a nervous wreck out of a grudge for not having his parents killed by the dark lord instead of Harry.

>>50393676
I always liked the idea of a Slytherin and Ravenclaw as best friends, they essentially be lab partners constantly researching new potions and spells to see what they find, the Ravenclaw for the sake of learning, the Slytherin thinking up practical applications. Ambition + Brains, it's an effective combination.

>>50393676
Makes me want to run a quest.

>>50393699
>>50393701

Eh, at the end of the day Snape was a spy so not supporting his own house (especially death eaters kids) other others (especially gryffindor) would have been a bit of a giveaway.

>>50393708

And that's why the bloody baron fugging the grey lady makes sense.

>>50393717
Or be a gm and run a game and recruit me and others

>>50393429

>Your godson curses a fellow student to make her teeth grow enormously out of her mouth.
>She's massively distraught, her friends and your godson's friends are about to riot in the halls.
>Lay down a sick burn about how her teeth don't look any different than usual.

>Be a good teacher and reasonable adult.

>>50393748

Being caring towards her and punishing draco would have been massively out of character and again would have made him look suspicious to voldemort.

Im not saying he was a good teacher but he was reasonable in his own way.

>>50393732
...there's supporting, and then there's naked favoritism, holy shit.

>>50393746
The problem is, what game do you run? What system is freeform enough?

>>50393806

>hey daddy at school today snape gave me a detention for calling that granger girl a mudblood
>hmm that is certainly out of character for him draco
>later when lucius is with voldemort
>master snape is treating mudbloods with compassion

Snape was a spy, it pretty much excuses him for being a dick to non slytherins

>>50393856
>Yes Lucius he is my spy who has spent the last 14 years growing close to the biggest muggle lover in the country, it's useful for him to be able to earn Dumbledore's trust.

>>50393649
As the guy who said Snape deserved better, part of what I meant was better characterization.
He goes from just a complete tool in the first few books to a grumpy tragic figure in the last ones because the Slytherin writing was weird.
I honestly don't know if Rowling just tried to redeem him at the last minute or what.
Harry was pretty much a crazy delinquent meathead the entire damn story and gets away with it because he's the protagonist. He really did belong in Slytherin.

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>>50392265

Now this is a quality rebuttal

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>>50393676
>a muggle in slytherin could have been an interesting character

>muggle in slytherin
>has no magic, not know it exists and likely has some contact with wizards through their family
>so they fake it, using magic tricks or other assorted trickery to make people think they can use magic
>gets accepted into Hogwarts, hoping they can learn magic for real
>they still can't, but have to keep up the charade
>they naturally make terrible grades, but just barely avoid getting kicked out

or did you mean Muggle born? Because a muggle born in the house full of racists who hate muggle born wizards would still be interesting.

>>50393701
He isn't the only teacher in hogwarts like that.
Seriously, can you imagine having worked your ass off for the entire to gain some points and win the cup for your house, and then Dumbledore comes and say "for breaking every rule in this school and being the child of the prophecy, I award Mr. Potter 150pts. As a result he wins the cup for Gryffindor"

It's an absolutely awful educational method.

>>50394082
i assume he meant muggleborn
turns out he is also a huge racist, and is a english nationalist

>>50394088
>one house is pretty much purely dedicated for helping people who are racist cunts to become even bigger racist cunts
>the school's primary sport is nonsensical
>teaching staff is filled to brim with lunatics and former wizard nazis
>they also just love to use the school as a storeroom for dangerous shit

Fuck, even that Bulgarian purebloods only school probably would be a better place to sent your kids into than Hogwarts.

>>50393799
>>50393856

Yes, being a good teacher/decent person would be out of character for him because he's made being a biased shit the character he plays for his entire adult life.

After Voldemort died and he got a job teaching children he could have reformed his image to be a firm but fair teacher so that when he punishes Draco for cursing a fellow student in the hallway it would not seem out of character.

Remember when Voldemort took over Britain, people like McGonagal were still able to keep their jobs in Hogwarts. Snape's teaching methods and personal manner don't even rate as far as Death Eater priorities go. So long as he keeps passing info to Voldemort and making potions for the cause he's fine. Hell, if he'd built up that sort of reputation for himself maybe we wouldn't have ended up with the Carrows casting crucios on the student body during his tenure as headmaster, which is the sort of thing no amount of 'I was a double agent!' pleading is going to protect him from the repercussions of when things go back to normal. He was lucky to have died when he did.

>>50394088
Depend on the year I guess. Students would probably understand that saving a kid from a basilisk and saving the school from being closed by doing so may be worth quite it's share of points.
First and third year must have been totally incomprehensible for most students though.

>>50393898
Let's be fair, in the very first book Snape was a (unsubtle) red herring. He was shown has evil and later revealed as trying to stop Quirrel. Pretty much a prefiguration of his role in the whole story.

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>>50394219
Beaubatons looks good too
And is filled exclusively with half-fae girls, according to the movie.

>>50394347
It's basically "elf slave wat do" the school.

>>50393884
Since when is Voldemort so fucking reasonable?

>>50394082
Tom Riddle joined Slytherin as born from unknown parents in a muggle orphanage, so I think his fellow students would assume that he was muggleborn.

>>50394407
The movie is pretty dumb in that regard.
>Let's characterize all the exchange students based on the proeminent characters.
>But what about french male students or scandinavian female students?
>Nobody will notice, Jerry. Don't worry.

>>50394270
>bullied entire schooling time
>woman he loves taken by his greatest rival
>double agent for the two most insane wizards in history
>works at a school filled with insolent, spoiled little brats given access to magic
>denied his preferred teaching position for years because of the plan
>son of his greatest enemy chosen hero, as much of an asshole as his dad
>not a goddamn year goes by when the world is not in constant peril
I'll bet he felt relief when he finally offed Dumbledore. Honestly, he should have gone nuts earlier.

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>>50394082
I'm not usually one to recommend fanfiction, and it's not exactly the same, but:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10129276/1/Dangerous-and-Deadly-Lord-Voldemort

>>50394506
Severus pls.

>>50394618
Is it actually good, or just fits the premise?

>>50394618
Eh, I'd take any fanfiction over something like Cursed Child.

What were they thinking.

>>50394644
It's a funny short read, so, yeah, I'd say it fits the "good" definition.

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>>50394539

>>50394539
>"voldemort did nothing wrong"
>not "grindewald did nothing wrong"

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>>50394539
You get muggleborns and squibs, and Voldy, one of the most powerful lizards, is mixed blood. I don't think that blood purity matters that much in the HP universe.

And we've seen the result of excessive inbreeding IRL.

>>50394539
hory shit

pretend I posted that gif of the old rich guy getting redpilled at that charity dinner thing

>>50393806
Just taking after the headmaster.

>>50394824
What do you mean, AFTER?

>>50394835
>Let's give our favorite Gryffindors hundreds of points for their heroism, despite the fact that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSE CUP WHATSOEVER
Dumbledore in charge of "no favoritism", everyone.

>>50393649
PEOPLE TEND TO HOLD MISGUIDED GRUDGES; NEWS AT 11

>>50394539
>>50394747
The books also do mention the pure lines becoming weaker and weaker, and that grand show of magics (ie, creating a castle that's near-sentient and a shitload of magical artefacts) are unheard of in recent times.

>>50394916
> The books also do mention the pure lines becoming weaker and weaker, and that grand show of magics (ie, creating a castle that's near-sentient and a shitload of magical artefacts) are unheard of in recent times.
That's because magic itself is dying out, probably.

>>50394219
>one house is pretty much purely dedicated for helping people who are racist cunts to become even bigger racist cunts
One of the only things THAT fanfiction gets right is that since people can override the sorting if they feel they don't want to be in a house, the only people that end up in Slytherin are people that don't mind being in Slytherin, it's a self selecting group.

>>50394861
>despite the fat that is has JUST SAVED THE WORLD FROM VOLDEMORT'S RETURN WHERE THE REST OF US ADULTS FUCKED UP

>>50394539
If a muggleborn can't cast magic, why would he even be invited to Hogwarts? It's not like he's a squib and Hogwarts is the only school for wizard families, muggleborn squibs would just go to regular school.

>>50394957
Still favoritism.
You can reward them in another way that doesn't fuck over a bunch Slytherins/Hufflepuffs/Ravenclaws that studied hard and carried their respective houses to win the Cup.
If you want to reward them, I dunno, why not give them a fucking puppy and throw a party to show how grateful you are or something?

>>50394916
THIS IS MORE DUE TO THE FACT WIZARDS ARE RETARDS WHO DON'T BOTHER TO MAKE OR INVENT NEW SHIT LIKE THEY USED TO.

IT ACTUALLY SAYS MOST WIZARDING LINES ARE GOING TO DIE OUT DUE TO INBREEDING AND THEY'RE DOOMED WITHOUT NEW MAGICAL BLOOD.

AKA ALL THE INBREEDING IS FUCKING WITH THESE PURE BLOOD WIZARDS. YOU'RE DRAGGING THE PURE BLOODS BECOMING WIZARD AND GRAND SHOWS OF MAGIC OUT OF THE FANFICTION THAT WILL NOT BE NAMED'S ASS.

>>50394954
Is it like Paradox in Mage? Are all Muggles just latently magical and enforce reality, weakening wizards or something?

>>50394957
>disobeying strict orders
>being the chosen one
>being incredibly lucky in most cases
I'm sure there's no way for this to send the wrong message and get some other students killed when they decide to do "what harry would do" and end up eaten by some giant monster.


>>50394996
Calm down, son.

>>50395028
Maybe.
I mean, we have these Greek and Arthurian legends about all-powerful wizards and demigods, right?
It seems strange that wizards are reduced to waving their poncy dick-sticks instead.
So it probably means that the Age of Magic is passing, and instead of a few very magically powerful individuals, we get a lot of magically weak people.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Tabletop_RPG
Harry Potter tabletop I did with /tg/'s help a few years ago. If anyone has any questions I'll be hanging out.

>>50395098
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Tabletop_RPG
wanna run it?

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>Your GM decides to magical realm this shit

>>50395067
Maybe it's simply that they don't need to do that stuff because someone already did it? There's no proof Dumbledore, Flamel, Voldemort and whoever the fuck Hufflepuff nominate out of their pool of HR admins and telephone sanitisers couldn't build something like Hogwarts, they seem to be capable of repairing the stuff that breaks after all. Maybe they don't do all that impressive shit because that same impressive shit is still functioning perfectly from before.

>>50395114
If I had time yeah. My greatest campaign ever was run in this system, so I really do want to get back into it. If I had time it also probably needs a second edition, a solid ground up rewrite of everything with some polish would serve it well.

>>50392195
t. angry woman

>On top of that, a little bit of headcanon will fix the last few little cosmetic things like why there are so many specific spells with silly faux-latin names ( the ministry made a list of learners spells to demonstrate magical basics and gave them names that were easy to memorize but not normal to speak in casual conversation to make them easy to focus on. That's why adults like Molly still use specific spells but masters like the Hogwarts teachers use huge custom spells like the massive transfiguration spell that animated the school's statues in the last movie

Can someone explain this to me, please? It's from the last /tghp/ thread. I feel like I'm on the brink of understanding it, but no dice.

>>50392120
Archmage Autismidas

>>50394506
>>denied his preferred teaching position for years because of the plan

More because taking that job is a death sentence.

At best the year would end with a series of comical misunderstandings that leave everyone thinking he's a child molestor and he's forced to flee the wizarding world in disgrace forever. More likely he gets killed by a manticore.

>>50395172

>Not Tiamat

Sir I am disappointed in your naming

So how do we make Harry Potter's magic system not retarded?

>>50395170
People are searching for sense in what was originally a children's book.

>>50395147
And yet Dumbledore is unable to find the Chamber of Secrets, and Voldemort is unable to actually destroy the magic in Hogwarts' foundation.

>>50392195
> Their dicks grab their full attention every five fucking minutes
You literally never have that problem if you jerk off daily.

>>50395530
>needing to constantly jerk off to retain basic mental function

girls > boys

>>50395508

Dumbledore couldn't find the chamber of secrets because he's not a parselmouth. But there are parselmouths still in the world, it's not a lost art.

And Voldemort didn't try to destroy Hogwarts, hell he'd be horrified at the thought. It's the only thing in the world he might come close to actually loving.

>>50395170
Incantations are nothing more than an artificial focus for a spell.
This is why silent and/or wandless magic works.

If you want an analogy, think of something along the lines of SOHCAHTOA.

>>50395547
No, just not to focus on boobs needlessly.
Oh, and by the way, if you can manage to not jerk off for a week (and that week is quite hellish, because your hormone production is increasing all the while), the production of hormones starts sharply decreasing and you basically never think about sex ever again.

Try it. Nofapathons are a thing.

>>50395558
> Dumbledore couldn't find the chamber of secrets because he's not a parselmouth
FIND, not OPEN.

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>>50388510
>That's because lethifolds are just Alolan Dementors.
I had a good chuckle. Thanks, anon.

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>>50394539

>Harry /pol/ter
>Harry /pol/ter and the Black Guy's stones
>Harry /pol/ter and the Gas Chamber
>Harry /pol/ter and the Prisoner of the Taliban
>Harry /pol/ter and the Goblet of White Phosphorous
>Harry /pol/ter and the Order of the (Fascist) Eagle
>Harry /pol/ter and the Half-Black Prince (Obama)
>Harry /pol/ter and the Deathly Hispanics

>>50395558
Parselmouth is the magical equivalent to an inherited ability like being double jointed and shit.

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>>50395613
Actually, you'll have nocturnal ejaculations after a certain amount of time.
Besides, I abstained for 2 months once, and I'm still horny to this day, so I really doubt that's an effective form of castration.

>>50395613
I hardly had time to fit a wank in with the current hours I'm working for the past fortnight.

Hellish? You might have some kind of hormone imbalance, anon.

>>50386136
No

>>50392265
Harry Potter LARP

There was one in the states this summer. I followed its development for a while, but it lost my interest pretty quickly.
>You must wear a name tag with your preferred pronouns
>If you're a straight white male you can't be a professor
>$400 for a ticket

Shame, too, because their worldbuilding was pretty great.

>>50386136
Just remember it's a series aimed at kids. Just enjoy it.

>>50396126
>You must wear a name tag with your preferred pronouns
>If you're a straight white male you can't be a professor
>$400 for a ticket

This is b8 right?

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So I've been thinking about adopting some of the aspects of the Harry Potter magic system to my own homebrew games and rulesets.

Basically I like the wand requirement- at least I would keep it a requirement so Wizards can be disarmed and the case of vocal/silent casting would also be a point of contention. I would probably let Wizard do silent casting for increased difficulty so they can trick their opponents.

Most importantly though, I want to capture the sort of free flow, emotional, and mystical aspects of the Harry Potter magic system in this system as well.

I'm not exactly sure how to do it, but my idea would have to be something like adding your magic skill + magic power(?) + Emotional investment or passion into your spells. So if you are a whimsical person you get more points to whimsical spells, and if you are a cock you can add your edge points into your dark magic.

What's a way to do this without requiring the player to look up on a big fucking table how powerful or useful their spells are?

>>50396349
Normally I'd think so, but liberals really love Harry Potter for some reason.

>That crushing feeling of disappointment when you turned 11 years old and didn't get your Hogwartts acceptance letter

I can't be the only one.

>>50392184
>>50386136
Yeah, the college kid equivalent would be Dresden Files.

>>50396840
You mean the middle school kid who thinks he's reading college stuff but it's just edgy middle school stuff equivalent.

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>>50396840
>college age equivalent
>fucking Dresden Files

In what fucking WORLD is this anything other than YA?

>>50396886
>>50396871
You are greatly overestimating college kids.

>>50397017
Nigga I was one not so long ago and I would have laughed at you then.

>>50395155
How I always pictured Ron.

>>50397375

Negro, if you aren't a thirty year old married guy with kids, you probably fit into the "college kid" stereotype.

>>50388510
kek

underrated

>>50386136
If you're older than 15, no.
You missed the train bruh.
You had to read it when you were about the same age as the characters, and growing up with them.

>>50394407
With literal elf slaves. Pity they aren't attractive.

>>50385413
Harry's player took both Serendipity, Good Destiny and Luck - he wanted enough Plot Armour to tank an ICBM. The GM struck back by forcing him to start gaining Mental Disadvantages after his adventures took a turn for the dark ("Seeing Cedric die gave you PTSD. The government is smearing your name in the papers, you're starting to get trust issues.").

>>50385413
>Patronus, the best attack spell
It's a purely defensive spell that only works on one type of monster

>>50395157
Wait, is that you >>50395157
Tiddlybum, is that you? I love this game. It's the number one system I want to play.

>>50395098
BTW, if we use this system, analyzing the main characters get a lot easier and more accurate than the copy pasta in the OP.
Harry, Ron, and Hermione are most likely Dexterity, Power, and Intelligence characters respectively. It's great.

>>50392505
>Thai Cuisine
Truly abominable

>>50395170
>On top of that, a little bit of headcanon will fix the last few little cosmetic things like why there are so many specific spells with silly faux-latin names ( the ministry made a list of learners spells to demonstrate magical basics and gave them names that were easy to memorize but not normal to speak in casual conversation to make them easy to focus on. That's why adults like Molly still use specific spells but masters like the Hogwarts teachers use huge custom spells like the massive transfiguration spell that animated the school's statues in the last movie

What do you mean by Molly using specific spells? I don't think we've ever seen her actually say a spell out loud, only weird bolts of light to kill Bellatrix and then cooking shit.

Do you mean to say that the ministry sat down and went "okay, here are some fundamental spells. Let's give them silly, short, faux-latin names so children can learn to use magic using simple words like "episkey" or "incedio"."

If that's so, then how come that custom spell "Piertotum Locomotor" that made all the suits animate have a silly latin name too? All spells have incantations, even if you don't have to speak them. How is this an explanation?

>like why there are so many specific spells with silly faux-latin names

That headcanon doesn't solve that at all. It only states that some spells have silly faux-latin names b/c the Ministry was like "LET'S MAKE MAGIC EASY" but doesn't explain why adults still use those simple spells, and why McGonagall's crazy custom armor-moving spell had a faux-latin name as well.

>>50400031
More likely it works in a similar vein to Shadowrun magic. The incantations are a focusing mantra to help you fix the spell in your head, but don't actually need to be spoken. If you have a particular spell down like nothing you can toss it off without using the words.

This would kind of explain who uses the words and when. Hogwarts students, for example, almost always use the incantations because they have at most seven years of experience actually casting spells. Older witches and wizards might know one or two spells by rote (especially if they have combat training, see the Order of the Phoenix), but for stuff they're less used to they have to say it out. Then you have absolute monsters like Dumbledore and Voldemort, who have so much power and knowledge they can just make silent spells up on the fly.

Wands might fall under a similar umbrella. They focus and amplify a wizard's power, but once you get to a certain level of hax you can do some spellwork without one. For example, in Fantastic Beasts we see Graves using telekinesis with old-fashioned Jedi hand gestures. At one point I think he even does it while using his wand to cast a different spell.

>>50400205
>Fantastic Beasts
>Canon

>>50400205
I saw that in the movie too. Dumbledore could do wandless shittery as well.

So the harry potter universe works off the assumption that every single spell has an incantation, you just don't have to say it if you know it well?

>>50400372

No. I don't have any examples, but there are plenty of magic acts that do not require incanted spells- It's there as a guide but imagination and power are all you need.

>>50400205
Also in Fantastic Beasts Graves uses his wand to seemingly 'guide' the electricity from the third rail of a subway tract onto Newt to kill or torture him.

Even for HP, that spell seems way to specific to be anything but pure raw magic cast in anger- and he gives no incantation to it either.

>>50400404
So Harry Potter magic is literal handwavium.

>>50392120
>sexual tension
I'm pretty confident that nobody has ever felt that with you

>>50400031
That was my post in the last thread. The in-depth explanation is pretty much what others have said after you. Every spell can use a mantra as a focus, just like in many other fantasy magic systems, but it isn't required. The ministry created a set of simple spells and made sure to attach all of the proper training wheels like having an incantation and specific wand movement, and they can be useful on any spell, but they aren't necessary, especially for simple spells like the stunning jinxes that most characters use later in the movies. Harry goes from using the proper incantation (stupefy) and lecturing Neville about the proper wand motion during one of the first DA meetings to casting the same spell without an incantation by flinging his wand as if he were literally throwing the spell during the later fights.
As for Molly, I'll have to dig for a source, but I would swear I remember her mentioning a couple of 'good housekeeping' type magazines that had lists of useful spells, with incantations, to use around the house. Of course, she's also a veteran of the first war and fully capable of using silent spells without wand motions in her fight against Bellatrix.
And I totally spaced about the incantation for the mass animation spell, but I suppose it would make sense for that to have every casting aid the professors could think of, since its such a large spell.
So they're just casting aids. If you're just learning them, or if you'll never have to use them quickly, silently, or in a duel, you may as well just use them forever. Or, if you're dumbledore, you may as well skip the wand, skip the words, and make up all of your spells on the fly because it doesn't make a meaningful impact on your casting ability.
So magic is like riding a bike. Kids use training wheels, adults don't need them, and Dumbledore rides a unicycle just to stunt on everyone.

>>50400594
You shouldn't count the movies as canon for how spells work. They're even worse than the books for world building.

>>50400628
Probably true, but we get very little to go on visually to determine how people move their wand to cast their spells in the books, so there's not enough information to prove or disprove this.
That said, this is all headcanon and can be discarded at any time, and we can just assume that HP world building is terrible like we always have.

>>50400522
No one ever said you could only do magic with your hands, anon, if you know what I'm saying.

>>50400594
Makes me wonder...

If the mantra only matters as a focus, could you teach someone a spell they don't know with the a mantra that's "wrong"?

Let's say you have a child wizard that doesn't know the spell "Incendio" and "Episkey", which respectively set things on fire and heal things.

You teach the child how to cast Incendio, but instead of using the word "Incedio", you say "Episkey". You demonstrate the magic by saying "Episkey" and setting a piece of paper on fire, because you are powerful enough to not need words.

The child could learn the "flame charm" with the incantation "Episkey", even though that's not according to curriculum.

Hell, you could tell the child the incantation was "fuckin' flame on".

I have a newfound respect for Harry Potter magic. And also am now fucking confused on how HPTTRPG could ever be made with this headcanon.

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>>50400694
>No one ever said you could only do magic with your hands, anon, if you know what I'm saying.

Now that I think about it, you don't even really need to use your hands. It just makes it easier to focus on something to do magic.

Dumbledore is probably sufficiently powerful enough to cast spells without moving an inch...

>>50385413
Im not sure if this is the best system to really model this book. Harry is clearly the main character, and he has friends, but not really an adventuring party.

Okay, so Harry is a new player. A chad. He put most of his points into physical skills and attributes. The system they are using has a will power stat, and he maxed the shit out of that. Resisting Avada Kadavera and summoning a patronus? same stat. People are always talking about how brave he is. Obviously took max levels of enemy and destiny backgrounds.

Hermione is just a run of the mill that guy power gamer. He read the book, he min maxed the number of spells he knows. Notably, he took mud blood; being a social flaw, gave him no mechanical drawback.

Ron is not new to table top. He's might not even be new to the system. But while Harry built a stupid character that came together in the end, and Hermione was min maxed from the start, Ron built a completely normal character, and spread his stats thin. Hes not in possession of a wealth of knowledge of the culture he grew up in, hes not excessively smart or exceptionally powerful, physically or magically. His family isn't rich. Maybe he put all his points into allies, which translated into his family.

Actually Im kind of curious to try and stat them
>>50385413
>Ginny is the DMPC whom everyone ends up hating.
Ginny was alright when she was young and couldn't get a word out to harry. Honestly everything in book six was shit, that whole subplot could have been supported in books 4 and 5 better.

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>>50385560
>proving girls shouldn't play ttrpgs.
Show me where the girl touched you anon...

Oh wait...

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>>50400703
I'm pretty sure you could. In Harry's first year, one of his classmates accidentally uses something that looks like a blasting charm while trying to levitate a feather, so we know that you can cast the 'wrong' spell with an unrelated incantation.
And the HPatTTRPG solution is surprisingly elegant. All of the spells in the core rule book, rather than being a canonical list of spells, represent spells as students of a specific year are taught them at Hogwarts. When you finish a year, you add all of the related spells from that year's classes to your list. So all Hogwarts students are taught to say 'episky' when they want to heal something, but that's not necessarily the only way to cast that spell. The spell creation rules allow for the creation of any number of similar healing spells with different incantations.
That's why I love the system so much. It makes so many elegant fixes to the broken HP lore seem obvious that I don't even know if the creator intended for them all to be there. Only a few slight tweaks to the system can make the world work in a ton of different ways.

>>50400553
I'll have you know I'm real sex object with the ladies.
Every time I suggest sex, they object.

>>50394539
>Witches and Wizards superior
I was going to say go back to /pol/ but then I realized wizards have no internet. They are still using radio and books and fucking letters, and meanwhile i have a mundane object that sits in my lap and lets me do all those fucking things at once.

Fucking wizards can teleport but they have to use fucking passenger pigeons?

>>50395792
Imperium was actually a pretty okay movie

>>50400736
Should have introduced Luna in book 4 as Harry's date that Gonby set him up with thinking they'd at least never hit it off with, and they do the next couple books as regular with them htting it off in the end. Luna was so much better for him.

>>50400890
They probably ran up against the challenge of trying to get a bunch of politically entrenched, old money blood-supremacists to adapt to new technology that allows people to make more demands on their time and just said "Nah, fuck it, messenger owls it is. "
Imagine trying to get Grandma to use Facebook, except it requires uprooting millenia of family history and remodeling her house's entire owlry.

>>50396674
I'm with you, brother. I guess it makes sense, though. I don't think Hogwarts takes Australians.

>>50398144
I can only imagine the player's reactions to fucking Umbridge.

>>50396674

No because 11 is old enough to know the book is fictional.

>>50394219

Quidditch is world wide, Krum was a fucking quidditch player, what the fuck are you talking about

>>50390090
Only if their character begins and ends with "gay." I've played with gay guys before and didn't have any problems with him.

It's the same as anyone whose character is one word: "Black," "fedora," "gay." You end up with characters who are okay for one session, but miserable for a campaign.

>>50401239
He wasn't just any Quidditch Player, he was an a fucking national team.

>>50400728
Casting without moving is a thing. During the first book, when Quirrell and Snape are cursing and counter cursing the broom, without pulling out their wands. They just maintain eye contact with the target and chant.

The issue of power in HP makes no sense though. Dumbledore outright says that he dwarfs Harry yet the same Harry can, to a point, compete with Riddle. Who by right is the only one within the same ballpark as Dumbledore.

>>50400522
Lupin does cast wandlessly by waving his hand once or twice.

>>50401386
Harry never competes with Voldemort except under circumstances where he has a massive advantage. Due to the nature of their wands in book four, having Dumbledore to guard him in book five, Harry's own wand fighting for him during the flight to the burrow, and finally because the elder wand was incapable of harming it's own master in the final duel.
If Harry and Voldenort were to duel seriously under normal conditions, it would go exactly like you imagine it would. Same for Harry against Dumbledore.

>>50388510
>Alolan Dementors

I enjoyed this

>>50394666
They were thinking
>oh, it'll be about their kids, all grown up!
>and time travel!
>and what if Voldemort won!
>and Voldemort's secret daughter!
>and and Harry has issues with his kid!
>and the Diggorys, they didn't get enough screen-time!

If they had picked one, maybe two of these, then it could've been coherent and with focus. Maybe even good. But they didn't stop to think "ok, lets stop brainstorming and start writing" until it was too late and they had to fit everything in.

You can do good follow-ups to great stories (see: Korra) but this is a perfect example of why people don't like paying for fan fiction.

>>50395644
Without being a parselnouth, the closest he'd get is the girl's bathroom

...yay?

>>50385413
>and put all of his spell points in Patronus, the best attack spell.
Nigga what? Patronus literally only works on Dementors. If anything, I'd say he put almost all his points into Expeliarmus and then dropped some points into Patronus when his DM started pulling out Dementors.

Also he put points into Swords just cause he thought it was cool. And when he killed the basalisk with it, dude was looking around the table like "I TOLD you it'd come in handy one day!"

>>50396418
Magic skill = how many points you have in skill. i.e: 3 points in Stupify makes attack 3d4 or 3d6
Magic Power = characteristic modifier I.e INT +3
Passion or emotion: GMdiscretion mostly. Player can test WIL to try to make them more impassioned towards their plight.

Or something like that.

>>50401356
> tfw
> Goblet of Fire
> no tri-Wizard Quidditch match
> allstar teams from both schools
> having some games

Quidditch really was missing,
KRUM would have been a great adversary for Harry - might have beaten him.

this is maybe one thing I'd add to Goblet of fire, which at times to me feels rather light plotwise. (Barring the Ending)

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>>50395139
>Ladymort is wierdly alluring
>the weasley twins are lannestering it up with each other
>Lady-snape suddenly makes a whole fuckload more sense

>>50394916

Well, you have a wizard splitting his soul far over every possible limit.

Snape was also according to canon a superb spellcaster and developed a shitload of spells

It's probably the same reason we don't build pyramids anymore: we don't have need for them.

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>>50385413
An LWA series can't come soon enough

>>50398498
Yeah its me, sorry I didn't respond earlier, but work sucks.

>>50398693
The system was designed from the ground up to fit into the feeling and story tropes of harry potter, making sure that the characters could be accurately represented was a major design goal.

>>50400833
Most were at least mildly intentional. I think that the groundwork for the systems existed in Rowlings mind but never made it to page. Creation was something that was talked about but never expounded on, ultimately I think of harry potter magic as being so deeply complex that we cant understand it from a muggle point of view.

>>50401752
Not soon enough, but soon anyway.

>>50401626
>might have beaten him
It wouldn't even have have been a contest, unless the Durmstrang chasers were utterly awful - Harry's good, but Krum was at least 3 years his senior and was one of the best professionals in the world

Also it's a personal tourney, not a group thing.

All-star really doesn't work at school level (it might do in the US I guess, but as mentioned upthread, school sport in the UK is a much smaller affair)

The World Cup could have been a bit better though.

>>50401829
nah, what I'm saying is:
they shouldn't have abandoned quidditch for that schoolyear, but instead have it run parallel to the tri-wizard tournament.

What you say is generally right, but in Hogwarts at least they do have a sports programme.

Now, consider this
> Goblet of Fire
> Quidditch World Championship
> tri wizard tournament
> Quidditch tournamet in Hogwarts
> Durmstrang participates
> Beauxbattos participates
> Harry gets to square off against Krum
> tensions
> have there be a little bit more love story Harry X Ginny
> have the plot elemets from the cursed child crop up
> guy in crowd cheering
> somebody in the water
> harry has flashbacks of Voldemorts voice
> Harry has flashbacks to alternate timelies

and then you rewrite the cursed child to incorporate that,
and have harry not be such a baffoon

>>50401914
Cursed child is tacked on crap, and only about half written by Rowling in the first place.
Most characters feel a significant amount off-base - even when Harry was a jerk in the books, he wasn't like that (also he was a teenager with a ton of pressure, kinda understandable).
Also I don't really get why Hermione was MM

And I reckon it makes sense not to run it - it wouldn't add much imo, might have bloated it like the SPEW stuff, which Winky only just made relevant

I can't tell if you'd be pissed off or pleased as an Auror when he joined the force, but I know as the DADA teacher you'd feel inadequate when he came by Hogwarts occasionally to do guest speaking

>>50402106
the thing is:
> Foreshadowing
> Buildup of Plot

Rowling should have
> Introduced Peter Pettigrew
> Order of Phoenix
> Sirius Black
> Remus Lupin
> Death Eaters

all in Book 1 already.
But she made it all up as she went along, expanding (which was good), but not writing a coherent story.

Especially the first three, Philosophers Stone, Chamber of Secrets and Prisoner of Azkaban (although Prisoner is almost my favourite), should have been a little bit larger and built up more of the themes to become relevant later on.

>>50402256
imagine frog cards,
... Order of Phoenix,
a ragtag Group of Vigilante Wizards allegedly organized around Albus Dumbledore who fought You Know Whom before he died during the Potter Incident.

Harry goes and does a minimum amount of research for his past, looks through old editions of the daily Prophet, finds articles describing Sirius Blacks / Pettigrews Standoff against Aurors,
Remus Lupin, who went underground but was a well known Opponent of You Know Whom,

In the History of Hogwarts, at least allude by name to the other schools,

Have there be a blurp about Azkaban in the first book,
second Book, have there be expanded blurbs about Azkaban, Sirius Black, and the Death Eaters of Voldemort being locked up there ( chief among them: the Dark Bride - Bellatrix Lestrange, alleged lover of Voldemort )

etc etc,
would be a goat book Series

>>50396418
Here's the system we used; it's been a few years so I don't remember it perfectly. It was D6 pools:

Your skill is linked to a branch/subbranche of magic (example: conjuration 5)
Then you have some kind of elementary affinity (I don't remember much; it wasn't water-earth-air-fire, but I can't recall the "elements" we used)
Raw magic power is the maximum amount of dots you could spend in a single spell
Your wand add various bonuses to everyting, and you have talents for that purpose as well
You have fatigue/emotion points that you can use to upgrade your spell. Those points were also used for physical and social actions, so you had to manage your pool.

Example :
You want to cast an Aguamenti spuell (conjure water)
Aguamenti is fifth year, so that's difficulty level 5 That's the number to reach on at least one dice to succeed
You got 2 levels in charms, a specialty in conjuration(+1=3), and 2 levels of affinity in water-based spells That's the number of dice you'll be rolling
Your magical power is 4 That 's the maximum number of successes you can have
You got a wand with a strong affinity with charms and conjuration (-1 to the number to reach)
So you launch (3+2=5) dice, trying to reach (5-1=4) on at least one of them, additional successes giving you bonus effects. You roll 6,5,5,4,4 (lucky you) but that only counts as 4 successes because you can't go past your magical power

In that example, you brilliantly cast your spell, a geyser of water sprouting out the tip of your wand.

Fatigue points can be used to reroll all the dice, or to add a 6 to the poll (In that example it would be 6,6,5,5,4,4. No use here because you already beat the maximum number of successes).
No matter how many bonuses you have, a 1 is always discarded in combat.

As you can notice, you need a special wand or talents to cast 7 year spells or higher.

>>50385413
>ut all of his spell points in Patronus, the best attack spell
Clearly hasn't read the books. Patronus is only good against a particular enemy. His go to spell was disarm.

>>50402284
I think the Order will be off Frog Cards at least until Harry is an adult, for everyone's protection - they were a) a secret, b) not with the law (which was working for the same goals, but very brutally), and c) was pretty small

Lupin and especially Sirius would be omitted completely, while Peter was totally insignificant.

Some foreshadowing would have been nice, but understanding the way the story goes, from whimsical magic world/boarding school story into the proto-YA story it became it makes sense (boarding school fiction didn't make a come-back, but it used to be a thing in the UK)

>>50387167
In fairness, they have a game where catching the snitch loses them the game because they were that far behind.

>>50402256
I doubt she expected it to become a massive success

>>50402413
Doesn't Deathly Hallows outright say it's his signature spell?

>>50402432
It would've made a lot more sense if the snitch was worth 50 points.

>>50396418
Mage the Ascension 20 does it pretty well. You just would get people whose Focus is not emotional at all, too, if you do not clamp down.

>>50402477
It would make a lot more sense if catching the snitch was worth nada. It ends the game, if you can prevent the other catcher from grabbing it, you just have to catch the thing when your team is leading.

>>50402449
I don't know when this was stated but it was the disarm spell that was said to be his signature move, not Patronus.

>>50402517
That's what I meant, Anon.

>During the final of the 1473 Quidditch World Cup, all seven hundred fouls were committed. These naturally included all 11 aforementioned as well as:

> Transfiguring of a Chaser into a polecat.
> Attempted decapitation of a keeper with a broadsword.
> The release of one hundred blood-sucking vampire bats from under the Transylvanian Captain's robes during the game.
> Setting fire to an opponent's broom tail.
> Attacking an opponent's broom with a club.
> Attacking an opponent with an axe.

Sounds like your regular footie match to me

>>50402530
I completely misunderstood your post then, It's pretty late over here, sorry Anon.

But yeah I don't know if it was deathly hallows but you were right, it was specifically mentioned. Which is weird how OP would pick patronus of all things as the one skill he'd dump all of his points into. (On that note though it would have been really neat to see Harry actually develop/use more spells than just his regular go to ones. He seems to mostly use pretty standard spells outside of Patronus which is a pretty situational spell.)

>>50402477
If I remember correctly, it used to be that the Snitch could fly beyond the boundaries of the field, so the average match lasted several days. At one point the restricted its movements to cut down game length and make it more exciting for the audience, but the bottom line is that wizards in HP are retarded, holy shit.

>>50402504
Holy shit, you fixed Quidditch.

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Tell me about your wands, potter fags.

>>50403286
14'' chestnut with a dragon heartstring core. Hard and inflexible.

>>50403286
It's large, long, and it'll fit just fine in your holster.

>>50403286
>wands
Literally the worst part of HP universe.
Wands are for sissy faggots. You either cast with a staff, or bare hands.

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>>50403367

Wrong. Wands are literally the best thing for Wizards.
>Aesthetic
>Practical
>Actually good at pointing and directing at things with
>Tied to real, actual wizarding traditions as opposed to just 'muh gandalf' 'muh odin'
>Small/weak enough to give Wizards an actual weakness as opposed to 'hur dur am wizard cast spells without any tools lmao'
>Allow for huge amounts of personality and customization

You are dead fucking wrong kiddo.
And secondly; there is nothing wrong with Wizard being silly. Wizards are allowed to be silly, contrasted with all the edgy shit around everywhere today. Take your grimderp 'so masculine' bullshit somewhere else.

>>50403546
What are magical tattoos for 500, Alex?
What is ritual magic for a 1000, Alex?
But, no, of course WARDS ARE LITERALLY THE BEST. If only you would stop sucking cocks for just a second, Anon.

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>>50403583
>magical tattoos

Magical tattoos are overly specific and don't apply to a lot of characters. Not a lot of people want to be super tattoo'd all over. It's also not practical; what you have to get a new tattoo to earn a new spell?

>Ritual magic
That's a whole nother beef. You do this to bring someone back from the dead, or to do some kind of future reading ritual thing, not regular magic. Not only impractical, but I'd argue it's more silly to dance around in circles and do little ritual songs then to just wave a wand and get something done.

Wands are literally the best magical tool. Wizards without wands are not Wizards, they are druids and cunning warlocks at best. Magic users are not always fighting or using combat spells; they have daily lives too and wands are literally perfect for both serious fights, magical feats of wonder, and simple daily utility.

You need to take your juvenile power fantasies back to >>>/b/ where they belong. You seem to be overly compensating for something; it's not a boggart you've got hiding in your closet fag.

>>50385413
>Ron is the first timer

Ron is one of the most fleshed out characters. He´s a veteran playing an intentionally weak character to go along the ride and have some fun without hogging the attention.

>>50387121
>We played a short campaign a few years ago, but since studying meant we learned new spells and got good grades, we barely went adventuring at all and spent most of our time at the library.

Well, if the priority was to get good grades, then you played it right.

Sounds like the GM failed to give you a bigger priority.

>>50402891
Nah, it used to be that they would hunt and kill a small hummingbird. After it became endangered, the golden snitch was invented

>>50394744
Kind of curious to see what they do with Grindlewald in the next few films and how he influenced World War 2 since he was defeated in 1945 by Albus the same year world war 2 ended.

>>50403546
I mostly agree but staff are nice too. Maybe for more war oriented wizards?

>>50403902
He came up with the backstory for his entire web of contacts, and made them all his family members. He then used them at key points in the campaign.

>God dammit, what are we gonna do with this dragon?
>Well, I have this brother...

>We missed the train!? How are we going to get to Hogwarts!?
>Well, I have this father...

>Alright, we have a plan, but we'll need some fireworks
>Well, I have these brothers...

>Freaking hell, guys, where's MY romance subplot?
>Well, I have this sister...

>We need to get out of this manor, but we NEED to get to a safe-house and lay low for a while, camping isn't cutting it anymore.
>Well, I have this brother and sister-in-law...

>My entire family shows up to help? Awesome! Wait, you said all eight of them. Ginny, Fred, George, Bill, Charlie, Mum, and Dad make seven.
>"Well, you have this brother..."

>"You see Bellatrix Black move across the battlefield. She sends a killing curse in Ginny's direction, and it only just misses.
>Oh no. I can't get out from under my invisibility cloak without ruining the whole plan, but I can't just let her die!
>Well, I have this mother...

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>>50404080
> >My entire family shows up to help? Awesome! Wait, you said all eight of them. Ginny, Fred, George, Bill, Charlie, Mum, and Dad make seven.
> >"Well, you have this brother..."

top kek

>>50404080
Offering help in shitty situations is pretty much the whole purpose of having family in RP. That or you wanting to play an angsty character but not being able to think up anything beyond muh dead parents/sister/cousin's father-in-law.

>>50404095
Thanks, I debated on putting that in, 'cause I wanted to do them in chronological order, but then I also wanted that one to be the punchline.

I also did >>50388621 and >>50388732

I enjoy writing these. They're pretty fun.

>>50400404
Everyone seems to forget that it's implied to be very common for wizard parents to know their kids are also wizards because they star manifesting spontaneous, non-verbal, non focused wandless magic. Neville ended up on a roof, Harry removed glass from a snake tank, all without incantations or wands.

Wands boost their power and allow for fine control, incantations allow for specific effects when combined with wand gestures (remember the spell effects change if you jab or wave the wand) but neither seems to be strictly speaking necessary, they're probably only required by normal wizards because anything else they do is too random or weak to be useful.

>>50404261
It was Harry that ended up on a roof.
Neville bounced like a ball when dropped by his grandfather from a window.

>>50401128
No joke, my regular group would have got to around the blood quill and rather than forming the DA and taking the cute Asian girl to the tea shop they'd have simply come up with a way to kill her. My group would have had Umbridge in the ground by the first Hogsmeade trip.

>>50404288
Oh yeah that's it, thanks anon.

>>50402377
That sounds suspiciously similar to Ars Magickas system, you assemble a buff from the form and the element that match the spell (for example a fireball is 'creo ignem', it uses your creation skill and your fire skill) and then roll against it, ploughing in various other resources as you want, normally stamina.

>>50404312
I dunno, Umbridge would be pretty hard to take down with just the three characters, what with her magic proficiency. Not to mention that the repercussions with killing her could make things worse at Hogwarts, and potentially Jeopardize the Order of the Phoenix.

>>50404387
>Umbridge would be pretty hard to take down with just the three characters
In direct combat yes, in terms of polyjuice potion plus goldfish plus breakfast plus heavy boot, not really.

>could make things worse at Hogwarts, and potentially Jeopardize the Order of the Phoenix
Both true, in fact as McGonnagall points out getting rid of her or fighting her is the stupid plan, but I suspect they'd not wait long enough to have that talk. They'd almost certainly do a book 7 in book 5 and blast their way out to go live innawoods and try to find out voldemorts weaknesses themselves.

>>50404312
I still don't understand why didn't Harry mention this to any other professor or Dumbledore.

>>50404387
>>50404436
desu, I wouldn't be surprised if she sucked at spells and instead of defending herself properly she'd just yell at them they haven't mastered the theory yet and that their gestures suck.

>>50404261
That makes me curious to see other "traditions" of magic in the potterverse. Like, just cause these hermetic verbena at hogwarts learn to focus their magic through a wand doesn't mean, say a martial artist might.

>I just really want adepts, anon

>Google is starting to get creepy, showing me captcha pics of a free way near my house and asking me to ID the street signs

>>50402256
The surest proof Rowling just makes shit up without thinking about it is that neither Fred nor George teased an increasingly-confused Ron about his nightly trysts with a student by the name of Peter Pettigrew.

>>50404599
I think the canon expanation is that Fred and George stoped using the map by the time Ron and company entered Hogwarts because they already knew the castle like the back of their hand.

>>50404599
Maybe they were balls deep in each others asses and thus felt that teasing their brother for being a faggot would be rather hypocritical when they themselves were also practicing wand dueling?

>>50404639
The problem with that is that Ron wasn't the first weasly to own the rat.

>>50404686
That whole plot hole could had been solved simply by making it so that the map can't detect transformed animagi (maybe throw in same excuse that makes it easier from them to evade dementors).

>>50404727
That means Lupin wouldn't have showed at the Womping Willow that night though.

>>50404686
It was Percy's wasn't it?

>>50404745
I think so. I know Ron's Cauldron, Rat, and Wand came from Bill, Charlie, and Percy, but I don't know which was who's.

>>50404312
This is every group.

>>50404261
not to mention nonhuman races. Cough goblins, resent wizards for refusing to share wand info- not because it denies them magic but because wizards figured out how to better channel and augment their powers and now lord it over lesser races

>>50404739
Lupin isn't a transformed animagi, here's a werewolf

>>50404375
Possible. I never played Ars Magicka so I wouldn't know.

Is it a good game/well suited for harry potter?

>>50404504
>Chinese Hogwarts is a mountain monastery where wizards learn to wield magic using kung fu
I'd watch/read it

Quick someone go make a magic system creation thread

>>50404810
No, but the reason he was there was because he saw Peter and Sirius in Animagus form on the map.

>>50404727
>>50404810

the map should have only worked on stock, pure strain human. It shouldn't have been able to track

>Hagrid (half giant)
>anything in the forest
>animagi
>altered humans (voldermort/post greyback bill/lupin)

oh, and perhaps also people under extreme magical duress.

>>50402504

I've always said the Snitch should be worth 15 points and ends the game. That way you never have to worry about a tie and Seeker strategy becomes more in depth as you said.

Pottershit... time to purge this, only 4 posts to goal

3 left

>>50403286
They are freudian in nature

And the final touch...

>>50395139
I surprizingly like Ladymort and man Lestrange quite a lot.

>>50404976
>>50404983
>>50405021
fuck off.

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>>50404976
>>50404983
>>50405021
>Heh... now my board is free from this thing I don't like... take that, fags...

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>>50394498
>Scandinavian
U wot m8?

>>50405063
>>50405074
You see... the thread will be out of the board in next two hours. Since it had zero relation with /tg/ to begin with, fuck you both and your shit taste in children literature.

Grow the fuck up finally. I'm sick and tired of 20-something people wanking constantly over the thing they read when they were 12. It's like you all never read anything else.

>>50405230
Yeah, I'm gonna start another one now, edgelord.

>>50405255
Maybe he wants you do that? He could want to have another one of these threads but is just too shy to make one himself and thus has to b8 someone else to make one for him.

>>50405230
>Grow the fuck up finally
Said anon in the Mongolian cave paintings imageboard.

You see, faggot, people like things you don't like. Learn to deal with it, autist. Talking about an RPG system to run literally any kind of game is part of traditional games.

>>50405280
>Talking about an RPG system to run literally any kind of game is part of traditional games.
Sadly, you are doing none of it in this thread.

Want to discuss fanfics? Hit fucking /lit/. But stay out of the fucking /tg/ if it's unrelated with the hobby.

>>50405230
>stop liking what I don't like!

I'll give you a tip:
>Right-click on incriminated thread
>Put cursor over "Hide/Unhide"
>Left-click

Time on 4chan is wasted anyway, but if you spend it getting angry over things you hate instead of enjoying things you like, it's doubly wasted.

>>50394506
>>works at a school filled with insolent, spoiled little brats given access to magic
To be fair, that's basically any school for middle school to high school aged kids. Being a professor at any magic school must be stressful as shit.

>>50405318
Anon, don't want to break it for you, but when thread is off-topic, it's reportable, rather than being hidden.
At least fucking check the rules of the site your are using.

>>50395155
Man Hermione looks preppy as fuck, which is probably accurate.

>>50405463
On the other hand male Luna looks way too normal.

>>50405413
Then report it you faggot.

People have posted homebrew links and reports of their campaigns. If >>50395114 isn't /tg/ I don't know what is.

>>50402536
Show me where the Manchester goalie was turned into a polecat, please

>>50395067
>I mean, we have these Greek and Arthurian legends about all-powerful wizards and demigods, right?
>It seems strange that wizards are reduced to waving their poncy dick-sticks instead.
Or it fits with the fact that most historical record is altered and exaggerated.

It's more likely that 99.9~% of ancient magic was utter shit in comparison to what modern wizardry has, but with the occasional legendary artifact produced.

>>50395613
>Oh, and by the way, if you can manage to not jerk off for a week... you basically never think about sex ever again.
As someone who explicitly hates masturbation, I can honestly say that you're utterly full of shit.