Warhammer 40,000 general

First for the Greatfather Nurgle

>>50380143
>Still not including the new FAQ

>>50380143
Dark Eldars rule, first place

Xth for being able to brighten Averland Sunset consistently.

Magnus lost?!

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>>50380189
Shamefur dispray

Brimstone horror rumor was true(and by extension, everything else in that rumor is true)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/24/looking-forward-to-wrath-of-magnus-daemons/

Wrath of Magnus will not be full-on Tzeentch Daemonkin but rather will update CSM and Daemons separately.

Rumor about 2++ invuln primaris power and the rubric being castable to turn loyalists in to rubric marines is probably bs

>>50380211
The lion knows Magnus true name

>>50380237
"Hi, Magnus!"

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First for The Black Omegas.

>>50380189
Off to the pain farms with you.

>>50380232
>Rumor about 2++ invuln primaris power and the rubric being castable to turn loyalists in to rubric marines is probably bs
Seeing as it was bundled with proved wrong stats for magnus, yes.

>>50380232
Could you please post the rumor? not the confirmation

>>50380237
Why so cryptic lmfao how do we know magnus lost?

>>50380189

>"Eldars" with an s
>"first place" but 3rd post

Whatever, you'll make a nice Grotesque.

>>50380293

God im not even the POSTER but he is TRYING his BEST

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>>50380143

>Chaos are the good guys

I can't decide if I want my T-Sons to go with regular blue-gold scheme, or red-gold preheresy scheme.
I've heard that in one threads someone posted edited photo with red but I couln't find it.

What do you think about it? Blue or red?

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>>50380345
The red looks amazing but will be hard work if you go with the forgeworld colour scheme (which is the best looking)

>>50380345

1ksons look good in Tzeentchian blue, and red and gold kind of infringes on Khorne territory, but go ahead and choose whichever one you like most. You could cross-reference Forge World's 1ksons against the new 40k ones.

>>50380232
it's not 2+ it's +2 to existing inv save.

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Nth for Genestealer nationalism

>>50380345
Depends on your fluff. If you want Pre-Heresy Red, post- then Blue. I personally prefer the red/gold but then again, I member when Magnus wasn't a giant, red furry cyclopse demon

>>50380384
Regardless, still bullshit

>>50380386
angron? perturbo?

>>50380143
>Magnus last after all
[Citation needed]

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>>50380389
classic magnus is best magnus

>>50380453
I really hope they keep the snake motif if they make a Fulgrim model.

Would a chapter/unit/whatever of Grey Knights dedicated solely to helping out the Adeptus Mechanicus have any basis in lore?

Trying to go for a tough elite army, last thread you guys told me Grey Knights and Admech. Figured I'd go for a little of both.

>>50380386
Can genestealers infest Marines?

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>>50380453
>Magnus the red
>blue

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>>50380438
Not even close, a Primus is the pinnacle of tactical genius, space orphans can't come close to the ferocity of the genestealers

>>50380471

No, read the Grey Knights codex. All 8 of the brotherhoods are clearly defined.

There is an Adeptus Mechanicus fortress floating above Titan which is solely dedicated to supplying the Grey Knights with the best equipment.

>>50380476
>minion of the lord of change and deception

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>>50380475
Of course, Space marines fall prey to the siren call of the four armed emperor easily. Once they see the truth they willingly submit to the call of the void.

>>50380476
His true name is Magnus the Redbeard.

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I love the idea of oath broken but fuck black legion, how does a broken bunch of marines that have been outcasted and left behind made their own warband sound?

>>50380516
How is this reflected in the crunch?

>>50380527
I'd say that's probably par the course for renegades stemming from traitors and loyalists.

>>50380475
i don't believe so but if the alpha legion can corrupt 40% of a chapter with some brain washing then it should be possible

>>50380237
Doesn't everyone?

>>50380536
It's not. Convert some Genestealer-Marines and ally them with your GSC if you want.

>>50380536
Its not, marines aren't needed to conquer and overthrow the futile defenses of this galaxies lifeforms. Marines are simply bonus biomass to be absorbed by the star gods.

Hey anons. New to the hobby. Is it worth it to go to the local GW store tomorrow for black friday? Do they do any sales or is it the usual GW style ive heard so much about?

>bitsandkits.co.uk/
Avoid. I placed an order a few months back without a hitch, decided to go for a bigger one and it was delayed for over a month after a hand-written email claimed that it was sorry about the package being delayed, but it had been sent. Started a conflict with them through PayPal the other week and all of a sudden my bits are in the mail. Looked online, plenty of experiences similar to mine. Avoid.

>>50380585
>black friday
>niche wargame based around attracting people with addictive personalities, large pockets, and no self control, and siphoning as much money from them as possible

You're looking at 5% TOPS, MAYBE, IF THE OWNER OF THE STORE HAS STOCK THAT HE NEEDS TO GET RID OF

Buy from a FLGS or thewarstore. 25% off.

>>50380471

Not really, but there are specific, specialized techmarines and techpriests who are specialized in purging daemonic code and technology. They have binaric cant defragmenting programs loaded up and delivered via hexagrammic ward inscribed cables, and other assorted pieces of their armory for just such purposes.

These are from FFG, though, and are highly sought after specialists that are pretty hard to come by for anyone not as powerful as an Inquisitor or high-ranking Magos.

>>50380475

Not sure. Space Marines have huge resistance to diseases and genetic fuckery, but are still highly vulnerable to a lot of weird alien shit. They probably are, and certainly were back in Rogue Trader, but ultimately it's more easy and productive for a genestealer to infest baseline humans instead. They typically don't have armor (or armor that effective) in the way of their infection vector.

>>50380553
Space marines don't tend to leave their wounded behind whereas chaos don't tend to give a fuck about each other

>>50380475
genestealers don't infest individuals in the way you're thinking of

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>>50380478
Some kind of tactical genius....

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>>50380647

>>50380527

Fine and dandy. I rolled one much like them myself on the 1d4 Creation Tables for fun when rolling up enemies for a Space Marine Chapter.

Turns out they have enemies in the form of an opposing Chaos Warband as well, one that's better staffed, has better recruitment, more chaotic gifts and favor to show for their devotion, and even worships and opposing god.

Frankly, warbands who get the shit end of the stick can be fun as hell to fluff out.

>>50380668

Shit, don't suppose the guy who built that liveblogged how he did it?

>30 Prospero Marines for 30$
Not a bad deal, desu senpai

>>50380720
>liveblogged
Ree.

Any new leaks?

Saw the Community site Tzeentch Daemon stuff

What do I buy after DW:OK for GSC? Should I just work on their decurion?

>>50380585
LGS I work at (not GW) gibs 30% on GW stuff and 25% on everything else.

>>50380749
>Saw the Community site Tzeentch Daemon stuff

I hadn't seen this before. Brimstone Horrors are cute.

>FW no longer sells Ork Fighta bomma kits

Is anyone gong to give me shit for kitbashng one fromma dakkajet body? Any major size differences?

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>>50380174
>First
>Not seventh
Pfft, unbeliever.

>>50380806
>Brimstone Horrors

They must be getting their own kit because right now the only way to get your hand on them is through the Silver Tower boxed set (and Ebay).

Just picked up some Blighted ogrun Warspears for £13 on ebay, what a steal! Just need 5 more and I've got all the stuff I need for my Grotesquery

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>>50380820

Where you at? I could order you some in then ebay them to you next time I do an order

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>>50380820
I believe they're a little bigger, but I doubt anyone would give you shit.

>>50380950

Tempting but I know a guy with one of those lists

Thank you anon for reminding me

>>50380475
They can, but Space Marines are sterile and cannot breed, so it's not terribly effective. Apothecaries can probably cleanse the infection with reapplication of geneseed or something.

>>50380635
...They do, actually.

Can you use the riptide's nova reactor if the riptide is stuck in close combat?

>>50380779
Acolytes.

Lots, and lots, of Acolytes.

Why do people say decurion for other factions? Is decurion not a necron exclusive thing?

>>50381039
>in the way you're thinking of
The genestealer's kiss gives the host an intense desire to procreate and to protect their now hybrid offspring, but that's as far as it goes. The rest is the genestealer's psychic/hypnotic stare.

and with regards to space marines it's been shown to have even less effect. That's why the techmarines in space hulk were stuck to the walls, aliens-style, rather than fighting you as game pieces.

>>50381090
Decurion is the original formation thing.
So people use it as a general description for other race's equivalent.

>>50380232

>played Tzeentch daemons since 5th
>get to go full silly again because of splits
>still grossly op because of summoning

Fuck

>>50380950
Chinaman still taking orders? I haven't bought from him in about a year.

>>50381108

What actually IS a decurion?

>>50381101
It puts them under psychic thrall of the Patriarch.

Space Marines as you say are probably particularly resistant to that, but that doesn't mean they cannot be infected and, if isolated from their Chapter for a long period of time, could easily fall to the Broodmind (Marines go renegade to Chaos all the time after all).

>>50380585
Store manager confirmed no sales for Black Friday.

>>50381160
a Detachment made of specific Formations and Army List Entries instead of Battlefield Role slots.

Like, for example, instead of Mandatory 1 HQ 2 Troop with optional Elites/Fast Attack/Heavy Support etc. a "Decurion" will be mandatory such-and-such Core Formation with optional this and that Formation and specific units.

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>>50380143
>>50380143
>"Fenris laid devasted and unless the battle was somehow stopped it, the wind of change will claim it forever, the sons of Fenris and the Lion bloodied but determined continued to push into the center of all, Magnus, the bastard brother of Russ and the Lion, battling with his brother clashing in an relentless exchange of pain and fury, surrounded by the hellish denizens of the warp, unable to intervene in such combat, Magnus an unparalleled psyker begin to prepare his death blow against his brother, the daemons pushed back by the energies he was summoning, the astartes found themselves unable to advance, nor the gifts given to them by the Emperor, nor the power of their vehicles would be enough, Asmodai trough conviction alone found the strength to gaze into such Titanic battle, the Lion remained immobile, with defiance drawn in his face, a word was muttered, lost in the Maelstrom caused by Magnus, the daemonic primarch found himself paralysed, as a statue, unable to deal the last blow with his foul magics, the Lion advance towards his brother with vengeance in his eyes and struck the daemon in his baleful eye, the scream of Magnus resounding in Fenris, causing pain in the never born, like a miniature star, Magnus collapsed into himself drawing with him everyone within reach but one immobile object, when the warp surge finally dissipated only the Lion was left"

Russ fags and Magnus fags BTFO, pride of the first legion

>>50381192
You're drunk

>>50381192
...Bagnus is booped in the eye and banished?

>>50381219
Yes, a Daemon Primarch jobs.
Shocking ain't it?

>>50381219
Pretty much, Prospero all over again.

>>50381192
Shit fanfic/10. Go bait elsewhere.

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> made me laugh way too fucking hard

>>50381256
It's in Spanish, what do you want from me?

>>50381234
>>50381232
Ah well, it's fine.
I love T-Sons for their aesthetic, not their shit Primach

>>50381192

If this is true... then Chaos once again confirmed as Z-tier saturday morning cartoon villain in a rubber mask, defeated at every turn, the only "victories" claimed off screen and meaningless.

The Tau and their 23 worlds are more of a threat than the horrors of the Warp, legions of Chaos Space Marine veterans + Daemon Primarchs and the Chaos Gods

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>>50381192

Is Blood Angels 10 man Death Company squad with power sword, bolt pistol and jump pack (380pts) worth it?

I counted 10 S4,ap5 shots and 50! S5 Ap3 meele attack+HoW and with Death Company Chaplain they can reroll all failed to hit and to wound. They also got 3+(as all SM) and FNP

>>50381277

yes

>>50381300

no

>>50381279
Proof.

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>>50381289
Implying tau isn't either chaos, necron or old god creation

>>50381277
>witch
>deatch

Power Swords, probably not. Mauls would be better for ID'ing GEQ and slapping vehicles. You're unlikely to encounter MEQ blobs of that size these days.

It's also not worth giving everyone a power weapon. You need some dudes to eat bullets for the (even more) expensive guys.

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>>50381289

There is nothing of importance at stake against the Tau. GW pulls some random system and planet out of its ass every time it focus on the Tau Empire. Fenris is a planet with pedigree in the setting and is far more important to fans than anything the Tau Empire will fight over.

>>50381192
> asmodai drinks conviction out of a trough

>>50381315
Tau are an Eldar creation.

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So my friends are running a mini tournament, 1500 points 1 CAD 1 Formation limit. We're having trouble deciding how one of them can take GSC since its a Decurion style detachment with formations within the formation. Can he take the CAD + Decurion or just the Decurion? Pic related

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_BBY0-zO1M

>>50381322


Chaos loses on literally every front.

>but muh chaos blew up planets with gorillians of imperials
off screen and meaningless
>but muh two paragraph fluff in the codex shows them killing a literally who space marine chapter
off screen and meaningless
>Muh black crusade to get a sword was a success
claiming a crusade was a success to get a close combat weapon in a conflict on a galactic scale whose scale is impossible for the human mind to fathom is retarded

and now once again, Chaos fails to topple a single planet.

>>50381300
Yes. I already do serious damage with basic Vanguards, so these chaps are likely to clean board if you use them properly. There's a lot of players, for some reason, that don't like using high cost-high efficiency units.
Sometimes, a unit is expensive for good reason. God speed Death Company.

>>50381337
Holy shit this is GOLD.

>>50381333

Does the tourney specifically state they are allowed a Decurion detachment? If yes, then yes they can go Cult Insurrection despite being made of multiple formations

>>50381333
It's a formation made up from formations, so basically it breaks the 1 formation rule. Do you allow decurions for other armies?

>>50381337

I love that he's teetering on the edge of losing it after every sentence.

>>50381327
> what happens on the rock stays on the rock

>>50381337
jesus christ, GW's marketing team is on fucking point

>>50381390
Decurions are not Formations, they are Detachments.

>>50381192
While I don't believe this for a second, I do think some bullshit like this is likely. Magnus winning would require something akin to ok writing, meaning it's basically impossible.

>>50381333
He can take a CAD and a formation from the decurion.

Ok, anons, we haven't done this in a while and I'm a tad bored of chaos + wolves (I don't begrudge you your cool new stuff, just not relevant to my armies at all).

What do you want out of Fires of Cyraxus and/or a hypothetical supplement for your army?

I want a transport, Vorax and Castellax robots and the 30k Lightning fighters, as well as the 30k customisable archmagi.
For a supplement I would like Dark Mechanicus with a Build-a-Bear daemon engine and other such stuff, as well as some special characters like Kelbor Hai. Also self-perpetuating daemonic viruses to debuff enemies as options for Doctrinas and Canticles instead of buffing myself.

>>50381386

Just read that Decurion is not allowed on the 2016 No Retreat rules (which we're using).

Lists so far:
Grav Heavy Iron hands w/ Sky hammer
2 Admech robots heavy lists
Lemon Rust heavy IG
2 Riptide and Ghost keel tau lists
Necron flying circus
Potential GSC or Grey Knights
Dark eldar w/ Grotesquery (me)

>>50381333
Technically by those rules you cannot run a Decurion.

It says 1 CAD and 1 Formation. A "Decurion" is neither, it's a unique Codex Detachment.

But honestly those restrictions are retarded since almost every army has access to a Decurion now and some armies like Skitarii cannot even run a CAD.

>>50381452
Literally if we got nothing else but the Triaros transport I would still be happy, everything else is just a cherry on top. Macrocarid would be neat too.

Also the new FMC automata just so AdMech has some air options.

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>>50381476

There is a second part for armies that can't make a CAD

>>50381490
True. I would like some more varied automata, Myrmidons and some melee units that are decent because I do like robot Rip and Tear.
Also Krios Venators. Pure sex in tank form.

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>>50381192
This is so obviously fake, with all of it's misspelled words and shit grammar, that I can't believe people have fallen for this.

So, being kinda new to the hobby, what do you older fans think about this new cinematics trailers, or did they do this before?

>>50381279
Post the original

>>50381434
Well then the 1 CAD+1 Formation formula is pretty simple.

>>50381452

I'm gonna wishlist what Death Guard get from Traitor Legions.

>MoN Hellbrutes
>Chemsprayers
>Sacred number squads = free champion
>Plastic Beasts of Nurgle

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>>50380330
Well you're best is an idiot

Biggest Citadel / GW discount store in the UK?

Is it Wayland?

>>50381687

Element

>>50381687

Triple helix but their delivery is slow and offer no free delivery, they pick up new stock on Tuesdays so if you order something on a Saturday you'll not receive it till Friday if they don't have it in stock (which they don't indicate or inform). Still you'll save like an extra 5%

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>>50381687
>Wayland

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Welp, here's my attempt at a deathwatch army list. I... am I stupid?

1850

Black spear detachment
Command-
ven dreadnought - missile and tl lascannon, extra armor

Core
Furor kill team (template death)
4x frag cannons, 1x terminator heavy flamer and melta fist, 5x shotguns
-land raider redeemer as transport with multi melta

Purgatus kill team
Librarian Ml2 w/bolter, tower shield relic, 8x vets with stalker bolters, 1x terminator w/cyclone missiles

Aux-
Corvus blackstar- asscans, missiles, halo kauncher

Allied Imperial Fists

ML2 Librarian w bones of osrak
5x tactical marines w heavy bolter
5x devastators w 4x lascannons
Imperial bastion with void shields, icarus quadcannon, tanglewire

>>50381687
Dark sphere honestly

>>50381786

Huh, didn't know that.

>>50381825

welp... I guess I'll have to make do with these guys.

I really wish I could buy at my lgs but they dropped discount again...

>>50381786
I'm not complaining, there ain't many stores that offer decent discount and free shipping at reasonable price ranges. I don't mind the wait. Time I got, money not so much.

>>50380746

What?

That's the term for showing progress in an easily accessed archivable place.

>>50381786
Some people have had that experience with Wayland, can't say I have. I've always found them to be prompt and fair with shipping costs.

>>50380374
>forgeworld colour scheme (which is the best looking)

FW scheme sucks ass.

When does GW restock their site?

Currently on the canadian version and they are all out of Ravagers and I know they dont have any at my local hobby shops

>>50382056
Friday or Saturday, I believe

>>50381555
>"Fenris yacía devastado y a menos que la batalla terminara pronto de alguna manera el viento del cambio lo reclamaria para siempre, los hijos de Fenris y el león se encontraban ensangrentados pero llenos de determinación continuaban presionando al centro de todo, Magnus, el hermano bastardo de Russ y el León, luchando con su hermano en un incansable y feroz intercambio de dolor y furia, rodeados por los demoniacos habitantes de la disformidad, incapaces de intervenir en tal combate, Magnus un psiquico sin igual se preparo para dar su golpe final encontra de su hermano, los demonios, esparcidos por las energias que convocaba mientras que los astartes se encontraban incapaces de avanzar, ni los dones otorgados por el Emperador o el poder de sus vehiculos serian suficientes, Asmodai unicamente con pura conviccion encontro la fuerza necesaria para atestiguar la titanica battalla, el León permanecio inamovible, con una mirada desafiante en su rostro, una palabra fue pronunciada, perdida en la tormenta causada por Magnus, el aberrante primarca se encontro a si mismo paralisado, como una estatua, incapas de dar el golpe final con sus terribles encantamientos, el León avanzo determinado rumbo a su hermano con venganza en sus ojos, asestando un golpe en su unico ojo, el grito de Magnus resono en todo Fenris, causando dolor en todos los habitantes del ether, mientras tanto como una estrella en miniatura, Magnus colapso sobre si Mismo, llevandose con el a todo el que estuviera cerca, a todos excepto a un objeto inamovible, cuando la disformidad se disipo, solo el León yacía de pie".

>>50382114

Okay they have been out of stock for about a month now so I guess they just stopped making Ravangers then :(

>>50382121

If they stopped making them it says something other than Out of Stock. I forget what it says. Last Chance to Buy or something.

I, too, have been waiting over a fucking month for some Ravagers. REEEEEEE.

>>50382156

All I want is that TRIPLE DARK LANCE goodness all over my sweet jinking Ravager

Is a $65/$45 split for Dark Vengeance fair, assuming that one person keeps the mini rulebook and all the extra dice and templates and such?

>>50382168

>Not using haywire to kill vehicles instead of stupid 1-roll-per-turn lance guns
>Not using based Disintegrators to slaughter Marines

we can't be friends

Why the fuch Deathwatch doesn't have Preferred Enemy or Hatred Xenos and why they don't have Antiphasic Bolts(anti necron successful Reanimation Protocols must be rerolled, Warzone Damnos)?

>>50382185

What side is getting the 65$?

>>50382188

fuck OFF you get 3 shots besides why do you need anything else but poison to kill marines

Anybody run salamander attack bikes? Jump packs and land speeders kill the fluff for me. Looking to get the melta out of my tactical and sternguard squad.

>>50382185

If the Chaos side was worth $45, I would be buying all these DV boxes off ebay to sell that shit off.

>>50382194
I guess mission tactics is basically the first part. For anti phasic rounds, completely agree.

Happy black Thursday /tg/ what are you buying on this glorious holiday

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Finished the portal glyph for my friend's Christmas gift. My fastest mini ever. 8 hours of total work.

>>50382043
Opinions!

>>50382213

Each gun gets 1 shot m8. BS4 for 1 of them doesn't even hit. top kek can't kill shit for fuck.

>>50382197
Dank Angels.

>>50382232
Kek.

Planning on making a KdK army out of these guys, I know Cultists, Helbrutes, and Chaos Lord is part of the KdK army list, but what can I do with the Chosen and Champion in the box?

>>50381502

He could take the Decurion, as it's the Faction Specific Detachment, and would be able to include formations to make it up. However, the CAD is mandatory, and the Cult Uprising Detachment is expensive, so unless it's a min CAD like two ML2 Maguses and tax acolytes it'll be hard to fit it.

>>50382056
>>50382114
>>50382121
>>50382156
>>50382168
That or THE MOTHERFUCKING DAIS OF DESTRUCTION IS COMING?!?! I WANT FUCKING ASDRUBAEL VECT BACK!!!

>>50382273
There are no Chosen in KdK for some odd reason.

>>50382416
Crap.

What do I do with them then?

>>50382433
Do a Fallen Angels army, they all get infiltrate and ATSKNF.

>>50382259
That's a really nice job, anon, lucky friend!

>>50382445
Problem with that is that I'm splitting the Dank Angels with my friend, and keeping the CSM.

It really seems like GW has realized that the people they sell their overpriced products to and the people that work for them are indeed human and should be treated as such.

https://youtu.be/t_BBY0-zO1M

>>50382480
But you only need 3 chosen squads and cypher.

>>50382433
They make for decent Aspiring Champs

>>50382507
Wait what?

I'm confused now.

Anyways, I still want to do a KdK army though. Cultists, Lord, and Helbrute are still usable, even if I'm not overly fond of either the Cultists or Helbrute.

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>>50382525
This.

>>50382117
What's Ahriman doing?

>>50382485
They still have a lot of work to so, but i like the direction of new GW.

What is the most effective unit to tarpit magnus with as a tau once you have grounded him?(the easy part)
I was thinking a riptide with a fnp and earth caste engineering array since ws1 is not much of a difference to WS 2 or a farsight commander with iridium armour + FNP + shield gen with either onager gauntlet or fusion blades for that nice blind.
Any other ideas?

>>50382600
Kroot.

>>50382558
Huh. Cool.

Man, I'm kinda bummed out that I can't really use the CSM in the KdK army. Like, I hate the Helbrute model, but if it had different legs that didn't look so stupid I might have a better opinion of it. The Cultist models look really dumb.

>>50382600
Mate, he's not even out yet?

>>50382600
>Magnus turns on Force,
bb Riptide

>>50382600
>once you have grounded him?(the easy part)
Explain how you're going to ground a unit with a Toughness 7 and 2++ re-rollable in an army with no anti-psyker tech.

>>50382626
Isn't magnus S8
Isn't kroot T4?
Won't he just instant death them?
Also kroot don't always have the same mobility and I was planning on deepstriking suits nearby then assaulting next turn.
>>50382637
He is going to appear in every chaos army now basically, need to get ready since I have only 1 item to assist with dealing with psykers.
>>50382642
I don't know what psy abilities do
care to explain?

>>50382691
You don't play this game, do you?

>>50382691

Force is Instant Death if a Wound gets through.

>>50382600
Kroot with nearby Ethereal giving them stubborn and ld10

>>50382663
>get first turn
>shoot magnus until he dies
easy peasy lemon squeezy

The psyker cannot activate his powers if you kill him first. The psyker cannot hide behind a wall when he is the size of a small apartment.

>>50382691
>I don't know what psy abilities do
>care to explain?
How new are you?

Turns all his attacks into Instant Death.

That means you don't get Feel No Pain and your Riptide effectively has 1 Wound. Good luck.

This is assuming you can even get him into melee considering he'll be flying around with a retarded strong re-rollable invuln save most of the time.

>>50382742
>implying you have enough high strength skyfire weaponry to kill a T7 W7 3++ re-roll 1's flyer in one turn of shooting

>>50382600
Stormsurge.

>>50382788
tau are the one army in the game that probably could do it, m8

>>50382574
He's looking for the guy from the burning of prospero novel and other skalds that are in suspension fields to steal knowledge of the rune magic and other secrets of the chapter and have a battle with Njal whom is ultimately rescued by Ulrik and his retinue and Ahriman escapes apparently empty-handed but he learned something from an unknown skald that had witnessed something about how to unlock webway portals

>>50382416
Neither is Kharn or Skarbrand. The only thing kdk improved was warp talons. Yaaaay

>>50382830
Nigger I've played against top tier Tau lists that couldn't even kill all my T4 5++ non-flying purestrains turn 1 before getting rolled by my Cult. They think they're hot shit because they have enough AP 3 interceptor to btfo Space Marine drop pod lists but they fold against massed invuln saves.

Good luck.

>>50382663
He is flying
And I run plenty of flyer defence in 750+ point games
1 XV88 broadside with TL HYMP, SMS, Seeker, Velocity tracker
1 Barracuda AX-5-2 with either railgun or ion cannon with 2 auto targeting cyclical ion blasters + TL missile pod + 4 seekers
2 DX-6 remora drones
And in higher point games a ghostkeel with the ion gun and velocity tracker
not to mention other seeker missiles on other vehicles.
He probably won't go down turn 1, but i'll definitely get him with all of this.
>>50382710
>>50382731
>>50382753
My store has nothing but wraith spam, grav spam, necron spam and a supremacy armour autist who doesn't thin his paints.
>>50382795
Don't have one and am poor, any suggestions other than stormsurge?

>>50382830
It's sad but it's true.

>>50382847
Dang it, I'm mad that I can't use part of my Dark Vengeance set now.

Screw it, I'm pissed, I now realize that the only model that I really like from there is Kranon/Chaos Lord and the Chosen/Aspiring Champion, but I can't even use those since the closest thing to all of them in KdK is the Chaos Lord.

Of which I can take a max of two.

>>50382870
>Don't have one and am poor, any suggestions other than stormsurge?

Kroot blob.

>>50382840
Also the campaign ends mentioning that the next primarch to rise will bring blight and dead in his path and a pious world guarded by faith will be the altar upon which he will return.

>>50382858
>I've played against top tier Tau lists
we aren't talking about whatever shitty tournament meta list you've seen

We're talking about about a list that can devote 1000~ points to cramming as much S7+ shit into the army without worrying about wasting points.

>>50382890
Refer to
>>50382870
All of the S7 and S8

>>50381192
pretty much about what I expected

that's literally the only reason why GW'd bring the rock to fenris

>>50382888
MORTARION VS SISTERS OF BATTLE

>>50382890
What point are you trying to make here? That objectively inferior Tau lists which are tailored specifically to hope to alpha-strike a Magnus assuming the Tau player gets first turn are somehow going to be proof against the new Magnus meta of Chaos players? lololol

>>50382936
>the new Magnus meta
doubt

>>50382870
So, a bunch of weapons that rely on Markerlights most of which will be snapshotting, and then still need a separate roll to hit, then only 2/3rds AT BEST will wound on average, then 7 out of 9 will fail to get through his invuln save, and then even if you hurt him you need to hope he fails his grounding test on a 1 in 3 chance.

And all this only has a chance in hell if you get the first turn and can shoot him before he gets a Psychic phase, and most of which sacrifices Interceptor for Skyfire which means he can just Deep Strike to avoid it.

You're fucked.

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>>50380898
Gee anon, how's that Genestealer Cult Abberant kit?
>Mfw I bought 30 brimstone Horrors to use as flamers on eBay when the box came out

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>>50381192
Bitch, that quality of writing wouldn't even pass the editing desk. 1/10 B8, made me reply.

>>50382990
lol truth

I bought a bunch of the DW:OK purestrains off eBay too because I love the throwback updated-but-vintage design and I knew they weren't getting an actual kit. Sucks that they're super monopose but I couldn't resist.

>>50382117
That's not real either. Did you run that through Google Translate again?

>>50382978
Snapshots?
Flyers with flying markerlights?
Velocity tracker?
Seekers at BS5?

>>50382990
now you have enough brimstone horrors for.. 15 whole pink horrors

>>50382742
>The psyker cannot hide behind a wall when he is the size of a small apartment.
Wings don't count for line of sight, and if you're playing on a board where dewinged Magnus can't stay out of LoS turn 1 you're playing on badshitTaufag boards and need to buy some fucking terrain.

>>50382978
>he can just Deep Strike to avoid it
you're giving a tau army possibly two turns of free reign against an expensive army that is without its fat, expensive centerpiece?

they've already won

>>50383065
All the markerlights that arent on flyers are snapshotting.

I don't see any flyers with markerlights.

Velocity Tracker means you don't have Early Warning Override which means Magnus will just Deep Strike and laugh at you.

BS 5 seekers still need a ML to hit and then still miss on a 1, fail to wound on a 1 or 2, and fail to beat the invuln save 7 out of 9 times.

>>50383094
An expensive army full of 4++-with-reroll MSU daemons summoning more fodder, plus invis and invuln buffing shenanigans, and if you don't get turn 1 this is already a moot point.

You're a fucking idiot. Tzeentch are already 2nd in tournament rankings for a reason.

>>50383136
>Tzeentch are already 2nd in tournament rankings for a reason.
and they do that WITHOUT a giant points sink eating up a third of their army

I can guarantee any list with magnus would be better served taking 500-1000 points of more daemons instead.

>>50383169
You might be right but that doesn't mean Magnus is garbage. Even being slightly less efficient he'll probably body Tau lists without breaking a sweat.

>>50383110
remora drones have networked markerlights, so 2 flying market lights.
I'll probably take fighter ace on the barracuda, allowing d3 markerlight with skyfire potentially every turn.
ewo is 5 points, an easy take for the ghostkeel
if you are deepstriking him. when deepstriking he won't be on the board and ill table you or remove half your army before magnus comes in.

>>50383182
>Even being slightly less efficient he'll probably body Tau lists without breaking a sweat.
From what we've seen he's reliant on the detachment bonus to maintain any reasonable form of durability, which may be unnecessarily limiting in addition to his points cost.

Unless his powers are seriously bullshit OR he's dramatically under-costed he's going to be dead weight in most standard games.

>>50383110
you don't even know his invuln save

>>50383217
Base is 4++ rerolling ones.

It's gonna be pretty easy getting that up though.

>>50383189
I'm not even a 1ksons player, I'm just saying how any smart one will use Magnus. It's bullshit how good he is and you're not going to easily ground him.

>>50383231
4++ rerolling ones is 1/2 + (1/6)(1/2) = 7/12

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What the fuck does heresy do? Should I click it?

>>50383217
We know it's 4+ with re-roll 1's and that it gets better in the detachment, so it's base 3++ re-1's or POSSIBLY 4++ re-all. In either case it's ~76% chance to save a Wound.

Once he gets a psychic phase it's going to jump up and be retarded for the rest of the game.

Easy fix is to not allow unique characters in games outside of narrative campaigns.

That actually saves everyone so much stupid bullshit.

>>50383347
>t. a fucking retard
There are, what, two special characters that actually show up in competitive lists?

>>50383373
And the top two tourney lists are Smashfucker superfriends with Celestine and Tzeentch Daemons with Fateweaver.

>>50383373
tigurius
fateweaver
celestine
eldrad occasionally
so not that many, but the ones that do get used widely are fucking cancerous

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>>50383258
>even thinking about enabling heresy

>>50383405
Also inquisitor whats-his-face.

>so not that many, but the ones that do get used widely are fucking cancerous
This. And Magnus will be the new posterchild for special character cancer in a few weeks.

>>50383347
>bringing back good rules from 3rd edition
ha ha ha never happening

>no no no, my tigirius proxy is a totally legit representation of my homebrew chapter's chief librarian

>>50383407
But what if i don't want to answer?

>>50383436
Fucking this, pisses me off so much.

Special characters kill the immersion really hard outside of unique missions that are designed for them.

Why is a legend like Azrael leading a random force of guardsmen with like one 5-man scout squad and then dying when getting stepped on by random Taushit chicken-walker #8463??

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>>50383474
>Why is a legend like Azrael leading a random force of guardsmen with like one 5-man scout squad and then dying when getting stepped on by random Taushit chicken-walker #8463??
For the experience? Also pic related.

UK FAGS.
PSA.

SPACE MARINE BIKES - BATTLE FOR VEDROS.
£4.99 ON SALE AT GAME WITH FREE POSTAGE.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/battle-for-vedros-space-marine-bike-1714400

>>50382710
>>50382753

I never really knew what Force was myself as I never really looked over Psychic Powers.

As Orks, I was always informed that the Weird Boy was a poor investment as he was likely going to destroy himself and probably not earn his points back.

Against Orks, I can't recall ever seeing Force in action as it's completely useless against their Walkers and most other stuff can be killed without it.

>>50383474
>mfw i misread Ahrimans ability to cast a psychic power multiple times and just spent two turns poking the fuck out of a Chaos Lord

They can be fun sometimes

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>>50383513
Basically zero customisation in the box, but for a fiver I'll snag a few. Thanks anon

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>>50380875
>not loving him despite his mistake
now who's the unbeliever. it's ok though, papa nurgle still loves you.

>>50380256
Magnus can't lose, even if he loses it's part of a greater plan.

>>50383606
Not a problem

>>50383606
Still beats the shit out of the DV monopose pieces of shit.

Every SM army I face has 3+ of those stupid bikers in it.

>>50383645
Yeah, it's a shame most of the new models coming out will be monopose too.
I think maybe GW thinks they can save money by going monopose.

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>>50378807
fuck i auctualy kind of want this

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>>50383685
>>>out

>>50381153
Yea huh. Just ordered two warhounds for 50 USD. SO HYPED

what would be the bet way to start collecting a genestealer cult army?

>>50383748
Buy Genestealer half of Overkill, then pick a formation or two and work on that.

>>50383748
Get overkill

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>>50383645

You kidding mate? Those 20 year old SM bikers look like shit.

>>50383762
>>50383765
thank you, anyone know where a good list is for an army? I am relatively new and bad at making them and would like a primer

>>50383788
Get the Codex.

Look at the Insurrection Detachment.

You need one of the Core Formations, so either a Brood Cycle or Neophyte Cavalcade. I just finished my Brood Cycle the other weekend, working on my other stuff now.

After that there are a few ways you can go. Most people take the Subterranean Uprising Formation which is extremely costly because it's basically spamming as many $40 boxes worth of Acolytes as possible. You can also look into adding some armour in the form of the odd Russ or grab a couple Rockgrinders for a Demolition Claw.

But definitely start with DW:OK.

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>>50383786
Yea and I am saying its better than the shitty monopose bikes you get from that bike set that every SM player wants to use.

Are you saying they are worse than?
>pic

>>50383837

Considering that the SubUp acolytes are pretty much generally used unupgraded, it'd be better to just buy more Overkill boxes for them.

>>50383856
Not really, besides the fact that it's inefficient to spend that much for only 12 monopose acolytes and a bunch of extra HQs and Deathwatch Marines you don't need, you need Metamorphs and likely want claws on them as well, so every 5 acolyte boxes will get you one metamorph squad fully clawed - better start loading up.

I wouldn't recommend anyone get more than two of the Overkill boxes.

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Does anyone know if the Skavenblight Scramblers from the Blood Bowl would be a fair substitute for my cultist models?

I play a Nurgle army and bought 20 of the Dark Vengeance Cultists but I do not much like them and I think Skaven would make for some cool mutated underlings.

They look pretty small though and I never seen Fantasy played although I know they were represented then.

>>50383888
>not just converting with Tyranid bits

Also Whips are better than Claws.

>>50383895
They are on 32mm bases, whereas the cultists are on 25mm.

What's this about a new alien race getting models?

>>50383904
Depends what you're attacking. Claws are far better vs more targets, whips are only situational. I would just put whips on my summons.

>>50383698
You make Alessio Cavatore cry.

>>50383904
Personally, I'll be going with a mix in my squads. Some whips some claws for help with vehicles.

I'm trying to think of a CSM scheme for my KdK warband.

Currently unsuccessful in thinking of one.

Maybe IW, maybe Crimson Slaughter, maybe that one Skeleton Warband whose name I can't remember.

Please help.

>>50383904
>>50383916
Also there aren't really any Tyranid bits that are the proper size and appearance for metamorph claws. You can't use scytals because that's exactly what metamorph talons are. The best conversion I've seen was using daemonette claws, but I'm going to need so many boxes of fucking acolytes anyways that by the time I have them all I'll have enough for my metamorphs.

>>50383905
I could always take the bases from my current cultists, I am more worried about their height.

We play with a lot of craters, fences and other short walls so it could be the difference between a cover save a block of LOS.

>>50381192
This is so bullshit. Where a the real fucking leaks. You can preorder it in like a day.

>>50383895
>$35 for 12 skaven in football gear
>you can get like 30 skaven for $20 on ebay with clubs and spears

What?

>>50383916
I mean, Whips are more usefull all around honestly. There's a ton of I4 and up you'd love to attack first to keep your weak models alive, where the extra strength tends to not matter since you're mostly fishing for Rends unless you're dealing with chaff that'll have low toughness anyway. Claws are what seem more situational in practice to me, and I'd hardly even summon them, since Acolytes with Saws are more effective on the things that Whip Metamorphs have a hard time dealing with.

>>50383069
Not even. It would be like 7 pink horrors. 14 blue horrors. 28 yellow horrors.

>>50383933
Tyrant Guard claws are okay. But yeah, that's true I guess. Whips on the other hand are easy as hell to get, considering Venomthrope legs exist.

The DWO box is really good, though. Extra HQs can be taken in a Broodcoven formation and attached to one of your SubUp squads to get another 3-dice roll. More Neophytes help with the Broodcycle or Cavalcade. And of course more than two whole boxes worth of Acolytes for each one.

>>50383946
Hmm. You make a fair argument. I think I might be tempted to do mixed squads afterall.

>>50383962
blue horrors split into one yellow base

the yellow horrors are two-to a base, like mini-nurgling swarms

>>50383944
>I would be paying GW's prices
Never said that, I would get at least 15% off at my LGS if I wouldn't just go on ebay.

I saw the Clanrats from AoS but they have a much different look and I like the look of these newer ones.

The bloodbowl ones just look more 40k to me.

>>50383979
>Extra HQs can be taken in a Broodcoven formation and attached to one of your SubUp squads to get another 3-dice roll.
The consensus on this seems to be that you can't since the Broodcoven is not part of the SubUp Formation and therefore cannot use its special rules. That was my original plan with my list but now I'm not sure until we get a GCult FAQ that clarifies. The wording on "a Primus" kind of muddies the waters a bit but it does seem unfair if it can be done given that Marines cannot attach characters to Skyhammer and get first turn charge.

>>50383931

>Skeleton Warband
what? explain more

>>50383992
I hope they use the Swarm rules, that would be cool.
>tfw ripper swarms are still garbage except as cheap objective grabbers

>>50384140
There's a CSM warband that has bone as their color and paint skeletons on themselves.

>>50384158
Punishers,
That scheme was a fucking bitch to paint

>>50384193
No way, pics or it didn't happen.

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Mind lending some advice?

I've been building casually building up a Grey Knights army for a little over a year now, and I think I want to go all in. I've got a good 1500 list and going forward I think I'm going to collect around a 3,000 point list. Here's what I've got now;

>Brother-Captain
>Librarian
>3 Terminator Squads
>Paladin Squad
>2 Interceptor Squads
>2 Strike/Purifier/Purgation Squads
>2 Dreadknights

What I know I'm going to add is
>2 Terminator Squads
>Dreadknight
>Librarian
>Land Raider

What would you recommend I go with? Ideally it's not necessarily good things, but fun stuff with a cool feel to it. I'm seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on a Ghosts of the Imperium

>>50384203
>implying I did individual toes and fingers
It was just a chore to make the lines straight and the rib cage was only about 3 ribs with a sternum.

They were just a 5man Killteam of chosen that i loaded to the teeth with plasma
No idea where they are now, probably in the closet

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>>50384238
>probably in the closet

Can someone help me understand void shields please, how do they work when hit by multiple shots from the same weapon?
>e.g. you have two void shields then your hull
>3 shots from the same weapon hit, say for arguments sake its an assault cannon
Assuming each of those 3 shots achieved a glance or a pen, would that take away 1 shield, or would it take out both shields then potentially hit the hull i.e. is there any bleed over?
Same for shooting with a squad, say 4 missiles from a devastator squad hit and achieve at least 12, does that remove 1, or 2 and then the hull?
FInally, destroyer weapons, it says that any hit from a destroyer weapon collapses the shield, is that hit wasted or can it still roll on the destroyer table and hit other shields/the hull?

>>50380374
you should take a look at the GW tint set that just got released.

there is also a vid of how to use it. so you can make colors like metallic red etc without having to use a airbrush.

>>50383931
Iron Warriors are undivided and Crimson Slaughter have their own supplement.

Punishers could look nice though.

Am I correct that a Herald of tzeentch is on a 60 mil circle base?.

>>50382485
Never have I laughed so hard at a commercial for spray paint. Great job GW.

What's the best way to represent a low-tech guerilla IG army? There seems to be no rules for such a force right now, unless you want to run Genestealer Cults and be mutant abominations.

>>50384643
Comes down to unit selection. It'd focus more on infantry with interspersed light vehicles, like Chimeras which are dirt cheap, than on big tanks and heavy artillery.

>>50384481
Imagine a void as if it were an extra hull point at AV12, the first example the assault cannon would eat as many void shields as it glanced, say hit 3 times, 2 glances means 2 void shields gone, can there be bleed over? yes which is why you resolve the glances on the void shields until its gone and then resolve on the AV of the vehicle in question, you dont roll all your dice at once but one by one until you remove the shield then with your remaining hits you resolve it against the vehicle.

As for Destroyer weapons Im not sure but I dont think theres bleed over from them unless its multishot, so a void shield would just eat a D weapon and the vehicle would lose a void shield but no hull points.

>>50384541
Yeah, that's my problem.

Iron Warriors are my favorite legion, but for a KdK warband, I dunno.

Crimson Slaughter are cool, and like a Khornate version of that one Warband who're forced to hear when someone lies.

The Punishers have a cool scheme, but iirc they're Slaaneshi and the skeletons would be hard to paint.

I think I'll just try and come up with something in the B&C painters.

>>50384668

But there is pretty much no way to give guardsmen infiltrate or Scout.

Would Elysian rules work? Fluffed as ambushers rather than paratroopers?

>>50384481
Holy shit we already went over this just this week.

All shots in 40k are resolved one at a time. The only time you roll more than one at once is just Fast Dice.

So if it has two shields, you roll two dice. If both glance or pen, the shields are down, then you roll the third against the hull.

Would the new Tau battleforce be worth it?

>>50384481
>FInally, destroyer weapons, it says that any hit from a destroyer weapon collapses the shield, is that hit wasted or can it still roll on the destroyer table and hit other shields/the hull?
One hit = one downed shield. There is no roll on the D table. All of this is so self-explanatory how are you asking the same questions again??

>>50384541

Iron Warriors are getting their own rules next month along with the rest of the traitor legions.

>>50383216
Boy there is no middle ground with you.

>>50380453
I really like the older aesthetics, I wish we could get a resurgence of those. And not just in 40k

>>50383216

>Ahriman's staff lets him cast the same witchfire multiple times per turn
>Ahriman will get access to Telepathy(same rumor as >>50380232)
>Ahriman's Warlord Trait lets him infiltrate
>Tau titans have Wounds and Leadership values
>Ahriman will be able to cast psychic shriek as many times per turn as necessary

this kills the Taufag

>>50384693
Basically you'd have to use a mix of Conscripts for the line troops and Veterans for specialists (most guerrilla forces have large bodies of shitty irregulars with no real experience interspersed with hardened fighters with a specific set of skills). Maybe an emphasis on Sentinels, FW vehicles like Arvus landers and Tauros scount vehicles, and heavy weapon platoons for support. That is, if you want to capture the feel of a legit guerrilla force.

>>50384807
>Chaosfags now the perfect counter to Taufags
Holy shit maybe two evils will cancel each other out, maybe the next supplement with Mort vs Sisters will see Sistersfags put in their place too

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>>50384692
The Harvest are actually pretty cool, but I'm not sold on their color scheme.

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>>50380340
>Chaos were the good guys
FTFY

LEAKS WHEN?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50384838
These guy's lore is weird.

They prefer to defend rather than assault, but hate building and setting up fortificatioms, so they go up and slaughter someone for their fort, and use it themselves?

Hey, at least they slew an entire Space Marine chapter for their Fortress-Monastery just so they could fight Tyranids.

>>50384915
That sounds cool but who hasn't wiped out a chapter at this point? It's basically a rite of passage for being a legitimate force in 40k.

>>50384932
True enough.

But for some reason, when you think of it in tabletop meta, it becomes hilarious. They fought off an army of a far more powerful enemy just to fight an enemy that's about as strong as they are.

>>50384915
So basically, their favorite video games are tower defense?

>>50384915
So the schoolyard bully if he had an axe and decided to cheat in a fight against the other bully?

>>50384915
So what you're saying is these guys are chaos squatters.

Haven't played since end of 5th, what has changed? Should I buy the 7th edition rulebook, or wait for 8th?

Haven't played since end of 5th, what has changed? Should I buy the 7th edition rulebook, or wait for 8th?

>>50385107
The fundamentals are mostly the same, just with more bullshit piled on top.

>>50382978
so what hes just the best model ever and you cant beat him so i should just auto loss and never play against any one that brings him?

>>50385107
Gene stealers are back, sister might get plastic miniatures in the next month and we're waiting battle zone Fenris 2 to see if Magnus will destroy Fenris or not.

>>50385066
Kek.

>>50385133
Also mechanicus is a thing now with two sub factions skitarii and cult mechanicus,
Imperial knights have miniatures and there are plastic custodes and sisters of silence

>>50385066
Someone say Chaos Squats?

>>50383606
>new bike bases
welp good thing i haven't finished building mine

>>50385133
genestealers were gone?

>>50385306
They're their own army now is what he meant, not just a troops choice in 'Nids.

>>50385313
Wut

>>50385313
oh he meant the cults, durr

>>50385306
Sorry genestealer CULTS are back

>>50385127
Basically yes. Refuse games against players who bring a Magnus unless you enjoy the frustration of watching an almost literally invincible highly mobile death machine bounce around the map erasing your shit from existence.

>>50385379
>Refuse games
Being this butthurt already lmao

>>50385379
Or just play lower point games where bringing Magnus isn't an option.

Or just don't be such a faggot.

why does a box of genestealer cultists cost 40$ when regular guardsmen are 28$?

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Hi /tg/ im currently working on a small dueling system for warhams, this is the first draft of rules ive hashed out.
The map could be either a 18"x18" square or a 20" circle.

Thoughts?

>>50385379
>>50385127
>literally isn't out yet
>nobody has played him or even seen his full rules
Where have you butthurt retards been for the last several years? Do you fags just auto-decline games against Eldar, Tau, and Space Marines?

>>50385422
Guardsman are an ancient kit with shitty bits in small numbers.
GSC are new casts with better model quality and literally shittons of options. Yes you're paying for a bunch of shit you won't actually use but the variety is nice.

>>50385406
The only ones that are going to be butthurt are Chaos players who shell out stupid amounts of money for this massive shelf-warmer model that no one will ever play a game against once the full rules are known, because literally why bother?

>>50385406
>>50385379
>>50385127
This is basically Screamerstars all over again, if youre playing a hypercompetetive meta, you need to LEARN to deal with it.

Playing on your buddys kitchentable? Try playing against it a few times, if it seems completely insurmountable talk to him about it.

Were all humans eh?

>>50385455
>40$ for 10 guardsmen soon
brb killing myself, I remember when it was 35 for 20

>>50385449
>he literally declared he was a tau player
So this... is the power.... of taufags

>>50385464
You can still buy the cheapo snapfit Cadians if you want cheap bodies for blobs.

>>50385449
We don't need to see his full rules, we've seen enough to know that he's an FMC who will have a 2++ re-rollable and nuke super-heavies in one shot with his witchfire power.

There is literally no way to beat him unless you play Eldar Wraithguard spam with D-Cannons and pray for a lucky shot.

>>50385487
are you trying to imply they won't raise their price too?

>mfw bought all the short stories of Legacy of Russ a few days ago
>mfw just realised that they're releasing them as a single story book on 3rd December

I mean, OK I get them early, but god dammit.

>>50385460
Screamerstars and other effectively invincible units can be tarpitted. An FMC cannot.

>>50381568
My wish-list for world eaters

+1 attack on all models

>>50385449
>Do you fags just auto-decline games against Eldar, Tau, and Space Marines?
Depends on the list.

>>50385494
considering they haven't raised the price/replaced any of the snapfits....no, they won't.

>>50385464
In 2000, a Tactical Marine box cost £15. in 2016 money, that's £22.50.

A Tactical Marine box in 2016 is £25. Except we now have more customization options (heads, helmets, accessories) and more weapon options (grav for example).

Hobbies aren't cheap.

t. used to collect tank models (still got some, need to get rid of really, but Merkava Mk3 (or is it a 4? I forget) is so sexy.

ps. Not a jew, but Israel do make some neat looking tanks.

>>50385539
>>50385540
>seriously replying to "le evul GW SO EXPENSIVE LITERAL SATAN HITLER" posters

>>50381568

>Night lords
>Charge after deep striking

>>50385460
There is no way to LEARN to deal with a model with a 2+ re-rollable invulnerable save and seven fucking Wounds for some armies.

Magnus literally counters infinite points worth of Tyranids or Orks.

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>>50385545
they'll be enlightened eventually.

>>50385493
We don't actually know what his power does, but Chaos Daemons can already field multiple 2++ rerollable FMC's with Strength D witchfires. He's probably going to be 500+ points, and who knows what other limitations he might have.

The amount of asspain that you're throwing out based on conjecture is hilarious.
>>50385514
If he never sets foot on the ground, you should be fucking ecstatic. That's a ton of points wasted to just fly around the sky throwing out a S:D shot or two a turn, especially against a retarded Tau player like you.

>>50385432
>Thoughts?
Boring as fuck.

>>50385566
>especially against a retarded Tau player like you.
Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

>>50385566
How his psychic abilities function will really decide how good he is, sans his actual point cost being appropriate.

If he does get a power that let's him decide a roll's result or something like that, his ability to just fly around and zap stuff would be unquestionably godlike.

>>50385566
>but Chaos Daemons can already field multiple 2++ rerollable FMC's with Strength D witchfires
And no one will allow them to play those lists at my store because that is objectively retarded and unfun, so Magnus can enjoy being a display model.