Pathfinder General /pfg/

I miss NTRDwarf guys. NToRacle is too good at it. This isn't fun anymore.

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>>50344732
Retoasting here so I can get more advice. How do I make a good backstory? What level of autism is needed?

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>Devastating Momentum

>Add an additional 40 points of damage on a successful charge attack and the attack ignores the target's damage reduction and potentially stuns the target.
What the actual fuck is this?

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I know that a lot of the people in this general play Fire Emblem.

What would St. Elimine's Domains/Portfolio be if I were to port her to PF?

Reference:
fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Elimine

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Hey are there any Strange Aeons pdfs anywhere these days?

>>50344767
>How do I make a good backstory? What level of autism is needed?

Focus on the big picture until you need to focus on one or two life-changing events.

Always be sure to include bits that allude to the character's personality or goals.

Always look for opportunities to flex your writing skills, don't be afraid to use synonyms!

If you're going for cliche, *own it.* Go big or go home.

>>50344767
DHB level autism minimum.

>>50344781
>What the actual fuck is this?

A 13th level boost?

Anyone familiar with the Super Genius archetype packages? How would you feel about the balance a "PoW 1-6" package and a "spheres low-caster" package?

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>>50344802

>>50344781
>and the attack ignores the target's damage reduction
>bullrushing ghosts so hard you actually banish them
Now that's pretty fucking metal!

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>>50344804
Its a level 7 maneuver.

>>50344810

>>50344817
>Its a level 7 maneuver.

No, it's 7th level.

There are 9 levels, for something like a Warder you gain a new level every other level.

At level 3 you have 1st and 2nd level maneuvers, at level 5 you have 1st, 2nd and 3rd, etc.

>>50344806
I have no experience with spheres, but I do like the idea of path of war 1-6 with say a selection of maybe 4 schools would be pretty gud.

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>>50344808

I'd suggest using other backstories as inspiration on how long or how detailed your character's past should be. If you read a backstory and think, "Man, I like this" than you should probably emulate it.

>>50344827
>Initiator Level: Some maneuvers effects depend on the initiator level, which is usually the character's level in the class that provides access to martial maneuvers. The word "level" in the maneuver lists always refers to initiator level.
I'm confused.

Since it's only a joke anyway I looked into ways of taking the diplomacy thing TOO far.

First of all if I no longer care about his age/other stats I can get 2 more just by getting his charisma to 22. The sacrifice his level 3 feat for skill focus.

Then spend every penny he has on a Knowledge necklace that allows for a once a day +10 insight bonus (insight being one of the few things, besides profane and luck, he doesn't have).

This brings up to a flat +60 once a day to diplomacy at level 3. At this point to go much farther will require multiclassing out of Oracle likely for odds and ends untyped bonuses (like dipping into shaman to add wisdom as well as charisma).

Does anyone have that one pdf with suggestions to fix or differentiate the various martial styles in Pathfinder?

>>50344831
For the initiator I was thinking a choice of up to 3 disciplines based on the skills available to the class. Would keep it flexible but still thematic.

>>50344869
>the NTR build.

>>50344869
What about a PFS legal variation?

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>>50344789
Oh, I've actually done this!
>St. Elimine of Eturia
>Lawful Good deity of mercy, light, and heaven
>Domains (and Subdomains): Air (Lightning), Glory (Honor), Good (Archon), Healing (Restoration), Law (Archon), Protection (Purity), Sun (Light).

Pic semi-related, a GBA-era work-in-progress sprite for Elimine.

>>50344901
That would require not being gestalt, get rid of aging, lose the magic items, and a lot more. It would cut it by quite a bit. Just shave off the things not PFS legal and you still have +40.

>>50344892
Overall I like archetype packages a lot better than I do variant multiclassing. VMC is total shit.

>>50344869
What does listening to someone with that high of a diplomacy check even feel like?

>>50344915
That's awesome! Thanks a lot

>>50344927
like Oversize Oracle Cock. OOC

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Has anyone run numbers on the Avowed?
I seem to be running into a problem of blatant-power-difference in the various shapes.

First, reflex-half means many things will be immune to the AoEs, but that's not the main worry here: The weapon-boosters are disproportionately better than other single target shapes. The boosters scale well/normally, while the regular pulses are actually low on damage: a 3 beam barrage at level 12 no longer allows you to be a 'damage dealer', putting out an average of 81 damage vs average monster health of 160, or 99 if we take deadly aim. AoE is moderate; triple-purchase wrath at the same level would give 54.

Take Aether Barrage vs Aether Rounds (two versions here: Crossbow; the lowest end of a barrage, and Firearm, which allows you to keep the vs-touch factor). The two beams are attractive at level 1, but...

Lv 5
>Barrage III: 3 beams @ 3d8 = 40.5 avg
>Crossbow+1 w/Rounds III @ 1d10+1+3d8 = 40 for two shots(haste or rapid), 60 for 3 (rapid+haste)
>Firearm: As crossbow, but vs touch
>Longbow: As crossbow but +STR and manyshot possibility


Level 12:
>Barrage IV: Still 3 beams @ 6d8+Deadly Aim (-3 +6) = 99
>Crossbow+3 w/Rounds IV @ 1d10+3+6d8+DA6 = 41.5/shot = 166 if all 4 hit
>Longbow/Firearms: upgrade as above


The main problem seems to be the usual multistacking of both enhancement bonuses on weapons and getting a stat to damage, in addition to being able to fire off even more attacks.

Similarly, Aether Channel with an explosive may be a lot more powerful than Blast, either against a primary target at 1-2 purchases, or dependent on the actual explosive used (oversized grenades perhaps) even at 3 purchases, and that's before the possibility of tossing several out (3 purchases also gets an extra attack even without haste there) compared to just the single blast.

It would be good to have methods, or at least equipment later on, that allows one to focus on other shapes for a different method/option compared to yet-more-mystics/magus/etc

>>50344927
Slowly the rest of the world fades away as the speaker's voice slips deep into your mind. You forget about the tavern and the mingling voices and the bard singing the same song as he did last week. The words creep ever deeper into your mind speaking to parts of you that you didn't even know existed. More sweet than the nectar of bees his voice fills you with a sweet feeling. The orator's tongue slides deftly in his mouth like an alchemist's silver. You always agreed with the man. You knew he was right before he even opened his mouth. You feel silly for ever having thought anything different.

>>50345109
Don't forget double-pistols/crossbows; you can get a lot more hits in on Aether Rounds 3 that way. Meanwhile your circus is barely hitting a dozen targets in a 30ft radius that you need centered on you. Wrath *4 is probably the best area effect there

>>50345120
All I'm reminded of reading this is
>Some of us like our dicks attached to MEN you raging bitch!

So I'm thinking.

If I were to make Gundad.

Cybersoldier Fighter for that sweet cyber-arm power (Taken as him not trusting his own hands anymore since he's getting old)

And then Glass-Eye Gunmage for maximum I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS.

I went back and looked at the DAD archetype and sadly it's not all that great. As nice as it would be to have DAD as one's class, it doesn't really fit at all.

I'm thinking maybe he's a vet from the Worldwound...

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>>50345151
Tell us about what made you think about that connection anon?

>>50344827
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/systems-and-use

>If you are a single-class character, your initiator level equals your level in the class that provides access to martial maneuvers. If you lack any martial disciple levels, your initiator level is equal to 1/2 your character level.

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>>50345165
wait nvm i take it back im dum

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>>50345192
Well done, friend. Understanding your failings is the first step to overcoming them.

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How should I run a war focused campaign? Examples of how people run sieges and castle assaults? Or how people run mass battles with thousands of people running around. I dunno.

>>50345231
Adventurers are special forces, they fight small scale skirmishes and do infiltration shit. They're not on the frontlines, ever.

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>>50345231
I'd base it on the Thirty Years War in Europe; basically a clusterfuck of mercenary armies rolling around for a few decades. At least in terms of what actually happens.

For actual gameplay, the party should be a small elite group of skirmishers, scouts, or battlefield heroes. you can pre-determine how battles will develop, and how the actions of the PCs affect said outcomes. Write Scenarios, but not specific sequences.

On a direct mechanical level, avoid showing shitloads of dudes - that just slows everything down. Instead, focus on the heroes and what they encounter, and remember to change it up. Variety is what'll keep the players invested.

>>50345160
Old screencaps on /tg/ actually. Basically diplomancer bard uses typical insane-diplo-bonuses to insta-convert some queen into helping her with some massive ritual that would eliminate men and turn all women into dickgirls (this would eliminate half the party of course)

The party berserker (also female) does not take it very well.

>>50345231
In a war focused campaign, the adventurers are either at the very forefront of battle (I.e. the Avengers) or at the backstage in secret (Deus Ex)

Either way, avoid mass combat as much as possible.

>>50345156
How about trying to make a character rather than
>How do I maximize my magical realm

>>50345287
>making a version of a character in pathfinder
>magical realm

???????????

nigga do you know what magical realm means

>>50345231
Adventurers are siegebreakers at the very least. You can't have a castle or a thousand soldiers without the adventurers on the scene staring at that and either demolishing the entire place outright, systematically raping everything within its walls after infiltrating, or using poison gas to melt a dozen regiments in one giant atrocity.

Some mid-high leveled adventurers may even be able to solo a few hundred such soldiers at a time, unless a fellow player starts demanding you hold back because someone else getting rid of all the mooks "is no fun for anyone else" (namely him).

>>50345287
Bro, literally neither of the characters I've got regarding this thing are at all Magical Realm.

And both of them have Fighter on one half of their gestalt, if I were trying to optimize, I'd be doing a fucking godawful job of it.

Although both of them are fairly alright damage-wise.

>>50345298
Something tells me you don't...
Do you need the original whizzard image?

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>>50345302
>>50345298
... anons... magical realm in this case would be implying that >>50345156 was sounding kinda "old-man-fetish", and 'maximizing' it under that context has nothing to do with optimizing an actual build.

>>50345303
Yes, Magical realm is about fetishes

Someone making gundad is not a fucking fetish you stupid fucking mouthbreathing neckbeard worthless sack of flesh. Remove yourself from this fucking earth. You are so fucking stupid that it literally triggers me. Like seriously. Shove the gunbarrel in your mouth and blow your fucking brains out you worthless fucking retard. You're so fucking stupid. So goddamn fucking stupid you goddamn fucking retard.

>>50345303
You gotta learn the difference between fetishes and memes, anon.

>>50345319
Edgy

>>50345347
Nothing fucking edgy about it.

You should actually, sincerely consider killing yourself. You are so fucking useless you don't know the difference between a fetish and meme. What purpose do you serve on this earth? For the good of humanity so you don't spread your worthless, retard genes you should off yourself. I mean the chances of that were small in the first place, but lets face it, 0% would be preferable.

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>>50345368
>Nothing fucking edgy about it.

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>>50345319
>>50345368
Anon, calm down. You getting mad is what he wants. It's what they always want.

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>>50345263
>>50345265
>>50345280
Mmm. Yeah. Thanks for the gameplay tips. I'll have the players doing both specialist stuff like disabling defenses, assassinating leaders, sabotaging stuff, all kinds of neat stuff. No mass combat mechanics, just players running around like firefighters in battle.

For the mechanics of warfare, I'm aiming for an early Medieval ages tech era, so I'm trying to research how Medieval warfare was done. I've read a bunch of material on the Thirty Years War and that time period, so I know all about that. Loadsa mercenary companies wondering about, half of the army deserting or dying of disease before reaching anywhere, foraging, raping and pillaging for supplies was not just the norm, but necessary. (One guy of his time calculated that a 50,000 man army with artillery and cavalry, and camp followers would have needed a supply train 5 days of marching long.)

But for Medieval warfare, I'm trying to see how it all works. No gunpowder, lack of literacy and education. Would populations have developed to the levels needed to support massive sustained warfare, approaching Thirty Years War levels? A lot of little questions like that.

Oh, and magic, flying and, "specialist," units would be deployed in specific situations, I guess.

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>>50345368
>>50345319
Anon why are you so mad? You're going a little overboard, if you wanna debate something talk about what's wrong. Ad hominem attacks aren't very helpful in this case.

>>50345378
i just want the normies to leave anon. They out themselves with their misuse of memes and it disgusts me.

>>50345388
there's no debate here. This stupid nigger doesn't understand the difference between a meme and a fetish.

>>50345109
Aether rounds/channel are clearly the best damage options by a mile, but that felt fairly normal to me because they take a lot more feat/money/stat investment than the others.

For Aether Rounds to even be functional you need to sink two feats into PBS/Precise Shot and then you'd probably want to go the whole way with rapid shot, deadly aim, and manyshot too.

Aether Channel doesn't let you be CHA-sad compared to aether blade; you can take the desna feat but that's still a feat down and you're locked into a nonreach weapon with 1d4 more damage than the aether blade.

Aether Barrage... does seem kind of underwhelming but it's relatively investment-free, I guess. It could do with some buffs.

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Man, I just wanted to make a grumpy old man with a gun, cyber-arms and a magic targeting visor.

What went wrong?

>>50345434
a retard who doesn't understand the difference between magical realm and memes.

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>>50345396
Memes can be fetishes and fetishes can be memes. They aren't mutually exclusive. Someone could very easily have thought you had meant the gay "dad" fetish stuff and not soldier 76 dad memes.

>>50345484
there were no dad fetish stuff, it was all 76 memes in this thread and the last

in short, that 'someone' is a fucking troglodyte.

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>>50345502
Some guys are gay. They hear daddy and think "Choke me daddy" if they don't know what 76 is and they hear dad they're gonna use what they know to interpret it. In short, he's just a little dumb, a little gay, and doesn't know about overwatch but he isn't malicious.

>>50345388
>>50345484
>>50345524
You make me inexplicably happy for some reason, Sandlerposter.

Keep on keepin' on.

So I'm not super experienced with optimization. In last thread what level of optimization would that oracle be considered?

>>50345599
Stupid level.

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>>50345319
If you'd ended it at "is not a fucking fetish" we could have sided with you, but now you're in nothing but loud denial the same way those bible-belt right-wingers scream louder against gays the deeper they are in the closet.

Also stop assuming you're only talking to a single person, it's unsightly. There are 23 different posters in this thread.

>>50345626
Is it a joke then?

>>50345655
We can hope anon.

>>50345402
Problem is you can invest quite a bit as well into the others, but even with equal or less investment they're better. With nothing but Rounds 3 (as opposed to barrage 3) you've got free reloading, and at BAB 6+ will arguably deal similar or higher damage to the triple beams, only gaining more and more if you actually invest.

Either way, you could say the problem is the ceiling and ability to invest; one based on attacks, the other one has a very strict one.

Similarly, Blast and wrath: Blast is quite simply better unless you'll go far enough to buy a fourth level of Wrath, at which point the fact that it sticks around flips the two right back around. the level 4 and the radius(the height's more of a gimmick) are the only differences for the most part.

Not certain if aether lance can be an okay replacement for a proper charge; someone else will have to run the numbers for chargers since I know them not too well.


Not sure if Aether Equilibrium is worth anything; the target limit becomes moot when you're halving your range with it anyways; you may get more out of a full attack using just rounds unless you're surrounded by lowest-hp things (but then why not just use regular circus)

>>50345761
I could see the point with firearms (touch) and longbows, since a sling or crossbow will have way lower accuracy to compensate.

But if the damage numbers from up there are accurate for the aether pulse, then it does seem that the problem is with abilities like barrage are not growing fast enough; which was a serious problem with the 3.X warlock as well.

Maybe some upper limit for boosted attack numbers though for Rounds and Blade: it's fine under normal BAB, but when you add in haste through manyshot, getting nearly twice the attacks is what destabilizes things. Maybe lower the pulse's damage by one die per two attacks (round up) over your iteratives?

Like, Pulse 5d8, 3 attacks from BAB, or 4d8 to 4-5 attacks, or 3d8 to 6-7 if you've got haste AND rapid-shot AND manyshot covering you?

Something like that I guess.

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Can anything good come out from a Elder Mythos PC?

>>50345972
Do you mean mechanically, or fluff-wise?

>>50345972
Not for the GM

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>>50345985
Eh, both.
More often than not you damage your wisdom to damage other people's wisdom or more.
In the latest Horror manual, bards get a Chtulhu-Warped Limited Wish at 13 too.

so I am playing around with creating magical items and I was wondering if there is any way to increase a magical items saving difficulty?

So, Bloodline Mutations for sorcerers can replace your bloodline powers for benefits. For example, Blood Havoc replaces your first level power.
But what if you're a crossblooded sorcerer? When you have the option to take your 2nd power, and you choose it to be the first level power the bloodline you didn't choose, can you then replace it again with Blood havoc a second time?

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>>50346008
Well, here's a neat thing you may not have noticed. The Dark Tapestry shaman spirit has Alien Summons, which is great for a summoner-type character because it allows you to get some ridiculous bonuses to your summoned creatures - +4 to all stats, +2 natural armor, and immunity to crits/precision effects is nothing to sneeze at, and stacks with Augmented Summons for a total of +8.

It gets even better though. If you take the Spirit Summoner archetype, you get Shaman hexes as a summoner, and if you have a Dark Tapestry spirit you can take Alien Summons, and watch as it applies to your eidlon (The equivalent of 25 goddamn evolution points plus a unique ability that would cost at least 3 if it even had a price). It does lock you into Aberrant Eidolons, but that's not even too bad in and of itself. An Aberrant Eidolon with the Aberrant base form somehow manages to have Tentacle Mass, Grab (Tentacle Mass) and a bite attack with absolutely no other investments, meaning you can get away with a grapplebeast far more powerful than a standard player could ever hope to achieve if they haven't gone for an Aberrant Aegis. It's certainly the strongest grappler in 1pp once you take the Final Embrace feat on your eidolon.

This is actually what I'm doing in RotJR.

>>50346066
>Crossblooded sorcerer
It's like you're stabbing yourself in the foot, then twisting the knife.
Why would you do that?

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>>50346085
That's... that's legal?

>>50346116
Yes. Nothing even stopping it.

Now, one thing to note about spirit summoner - it takes away the Summon monster SLA of the summoner, which is the entire thing that makes summoner so fucking ridiculous.

this is actually a good point for a lot of people (myself included) because we want less emphasis on summong boat loads of shit and more on the eidolon.

>>50346085
>>50346116
Summoners are always banned in my games. What does 1pp stand for?

>>50346147
First party product.

Why do you ban them?

>>50346105
I'm aware that it isn't super duper optimal, but as a full caster, I can afford that.
The real question is can i become a silly nuke by doubling down on Blood Havoc.

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>>50346159
Something a lot of people fail to realize is that the problems with playing a crossblooded blaster (that is, less spells known) is that blasters often just want to use their higher level slots for metamagicked spells anyways. Take a human sorcerer and you're even mitigating the lack of spells known.

I ran an Elemental (Air)/Draconic (Electricity) crossblood a little while ago, and she was capable of absolutely silly amounts of damage while never really feeling less versatile than standard sorcerers.

Does Gift of Claw and Horn for Lunar Oracles stack? It says you can use it a number of times per day, and doesn't say explicitly you can't use it to get multiple natural attacks.

>>50346157
I don't ban them, my DM does. And because of shit like anon just posted I guess? I also remember hearing about some crazy shit about wearing your eidolon as armor.

>>50346172
Yeah, I've played a bog standard Draconic Blaster Sorcerer before. Really, once you can cast fireball, you're pretty well okay on your main function of 'mobile artillery platform', which is why spells known tax doesn't bother me.

>>50346226
that would be the synthesist summoner and its actually worse than the normal summoner

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>>50346227
Then yeah, just tossing Blood Havoc on there is going to make you even more killy.

>>50346226
Frankly, that's stupid. The shenanigans above make the eidolon better, but that's it; you lose summon monster (which is what makes summoner so powerful) and synthesist (The 'wear your eidolon' thing) is actually less powerful than baseline summoner.

on top of that, the class already got nerfed by Unchained stuff. Just use the unchained version, it's good but it's not a class that can do basically everything anymore, particular if you go for an archetype that trades out Summon Monster.

>>50346236
>>50346247
She wouldn't even allow the unchanged one. So how is synthesist weaker? Playing as a powerranger sounds fun as shit.

>>50346288
because you're losing action economy.

>>50346288
In simple terms, a normal summoner can keep casting spells while his eidolon wrecks shit.

A Synthesist can only either wreck shit, OR cast spells, he can't do both at the same time like a normal one can.

The Synth's advantage is a DEFENSIVE one, since he effectively pools his and his eidolon's hp together, but in exchange, can do less at once.

>>50346288
Normal summoner has two bodies - the player character and the eidolon. while the summoner is casting buffs on allies or healing that dumb schmuck who always runs in, the eidlon is still doing its thing, playing like a better fighter (not that that's hard).

Synthesist gives up the second character. One character means one turn per round, rather than two.

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>>50346236
>>50346247

>>50346304
>>50346314
Okay thank you. I would still play a Synth over a normal summoner for the flavor.

>>50346338
I checked that source but its still not giving me a reason.

>>50346338
>>50346353
for the answer to the question of "Why is this banned?" it's because it emphasizes the summoner. It's stupid, but it's more acceptable for the summoner to have a minion that can tear shit apart than them being able to do it themselves.

>>50346353

because people complained

Eyy /tg/ I'm about to play Kingdom Builder with my group, and it all seems good and fun.

Except we're all shit at Kingdom Building.

Has anyone here played Kingdom Builder? What do you at the start? Anything to focus on?

>>50346353
Basically this >>50346356 PFS players are terrible at the game and whiny, screaming for nerfs at encounters that are barely challenging as-is.
Given that they don't know a thing about action economy, synthesist clearly appeared overpowered to them.
These are the same guys that think Kineticist is a strong class.

>>50346420

These are the people who got crane style nerfed into the fucking ground, because pathflounder society apparently has nothing but encounters with 1 opponent making single attacks and crane style completely neutralized every encounter

So instead of making encounters more varied and interesting they just doubled down on dumbing down

>>50346355
>>50346356
>>50346420
>child scent hex is banned
Hahaha. It doesn't say that on the witch page but I kind of get why its on the ban page.

>>50346420
And also the people that cheered for the nerf to crane wing monks.

Because negating and counter-attacking once per round vs melee was somehow completely wrecking entire adventures.

Yeah that's right.

These people are *SO* bad at what they do that we get bullshit like this. Or, often enough, so possessive of their own spechul snowflake character that they will actively endeavor to ensure everyone *else* is as bad as possible (example: wiz/cleric fans arguing the psion is overpowered while pretending the best they can do in any situation is empowered maximized magic missile once a day)

>>50346445
They hate guns for the same reason, because the way to make a big and epic bossfight is to give this one nameless-faceless-level-2-warrior full plate.

>He's a lot harder to hit so the fight lasts much longer you see. OMG WTF GUNS KILL EVERYTHING WTF NERF IT WTF IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE WTF THERES NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FIREARMS IN EARLY MEDIEVAL DAYS WITH HALBERDS AND FULL-PLATE ARMOR THAT'S NOT REALISTIC EVEN THOUGH THE LATTER CAME LONG AFTER

I get removing the eating children hexes a little, but why remove this?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/witch/hexes---3rd-party-publishers/hexes/common-hexes/hex-poison-steep-sp

Are story references not allowed?

/pfg/ i caaant sleeeep

>>50345972
>ywn hold tiny Shuma Gorath

Why live?

Alright, so what are the ground rules for fucking cute Keleshites without inadvertently getting roped into a Qadiran marriage?

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>>50346445
>>50346460
>>50346477
Wait, so despite PFS clearly not being the majority of people who even play using Pathfinder or Paizo materials, they whine hard enough shit gets changed for the rest of us despite being OBJECTIVELY not unbalanced?

>>50346573
yes

>>50346573
Remember the equipment changes a while back? the one that destroyed the Jingasa and pushed a senseless flavor-nerf on Sleeves of Many Garments?

You can thank PFS players for that.

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>>50346573

you're just discovering this now?

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>>50346573
In fairness, the changes only have to affect PFS play.

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>>50346573
Why do you THINK we mock PFS and its players mercilessly?

Sure, if it were just that they liked a shitty organized play format, then they'd get a lot less hate. Everybody enjoys objectively bad things.

But they ruin it for everyone else in the process, it's bullshit. Like SKR and Buhlman and their 'i can't pick up this mouse I tied to my wrist easily, so no more weapon cords.'

>>50346619

but they don't

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Noob GM here, looking to run the Rise of the Runelords path on Roll20. Anyone got any ideas where I can find stuff like maps for the various encounters (just for Burnt Offerings|)? Also any general pointers?

>>50346674
google 'rise of the runelords maps'

>>50346681
I play a small kitsune when allowed

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>>50344732

Does anyone here actually play small races?

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>>50346573
Now you know.

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>>50344767

>>50346694
I played a sociopathic small tiefling stalker one times for a hell's vengance module. It was fun but sadly the game didn't go more than a couple of sessions.

I am currently toying around with the idea to give a heavily magic based country weapons based on magic/energy, somewhat like the Ironman gauntlet sorta. But i am not sure how to stat them to not make them too overpowered.
Any ideas?

>>50346619
The problem is that the changes affect the rulebooks, and when those get changed is extremely difficult to find the unchanged version.

>>50346839
Use the tech weapons list but halve the price and make the save DCs not so fucktardedly moronically low.

>>50346786
Lemme guess, the GM was a dickhead, that's why it ended?

>>50346694
The onlly small races players I know are the most awful munchkin rule lawyer powergamers you could imagine, but they exist so the answer to your question is yes.

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Which characters in RotJR would you play with based on your fetishes alone, /pfg/?

Has anyone submitted a kitsune yet?

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When will we get better catfolk stats from Bloodforge: Infusions?

>>50347197
never

>>50347158
none.

Kitsune should burn.

>>50346956
No, we were just running through the encounters too fast and the GM, after reading through the module, realised it was pretty terrible and he'd have to basically redo it from the ground up to be good.

>>50344871
pls help

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Where can I find a quick rundown on Golarion?

>>50347589

Golarion is a themepark setting, which means you need to pick a region and dig into it. What areas are you interested in?

>>50347688
The only ones I even know are the Mwangi Expanse,that place with the big ass Satan hole, Andoran, Linnorm Kings and Cheliax though.

>>50347449
Any GM who can't do that is a shithead incompetent GM.

>>50344868
Replace the word "initiator" with "caster", and I think you will cease fucking up.

>>50347770
Well, that's your opinion, man.

>>50347158
There was exactly one kitsune. He is actively pretending to be an ordinary human, which is likely to be a form in its mid-20's, and does not seem to be very fetishy at all, unless your fetish is bestiality.

>>50347770
That doesn't mean you WANT to spend the time trying to polish a turd, anon, when he could be running a good game out of the box of his own making, or one of the better aps.
I disagree with >>50347786, you are just being a smug cunt.

>>50347158
Razmiran priestess tickles my dick and I'd tickle her clit.

>>50347715
Just go to the wiki and browse around or some shit.

http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Varisia

What kinda gear supports a dex/weapon finesse martial character?
Kinda new to this.

>>50348040
1pp only? Everything legal?

Well I guess now that sir faggotstein is gone it was inevitable we'd get another

same protocol people, hide posts and ignore him, he'll wear himself out.

>>50348055
Oh, my bad, forgot about that...
Er... According to this, elements of 3.5, PF, PoW and SoP are all open, but up to the DM to greenlight if the rules are fuzzy.

>>50348085
>PoW
Deadly Agility

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/feats#TOC-Deadly-Agility-Combat-

>>50348040
Effortless Lace allows you to use weapon finess with any cutting weapon your size, so you can wield a two handed broadsword with dexterity.

>>50348131
I'm looking for gear, anon, not feats.
Equipment is far less brought up than feats/racial selection/archetypes.

>>50344869
What's the build?

>>50348040
Mithral Shirt, Handy Haversack, and combining muleback cords onto your Cloak of Resistance. Offhand that's all I got for you senpai, at least without knowing your class and/or build.

>>50348173
Right, misread. Depends on the martial, but once you have Deadly Agility the gear is whatever would help a strength martial. Obviously a dex belt instead of a strength belt, but Gloves of Dueling if you have Weapon Training, Furious enchantment if you have rage, etc.

>>50348268
What the fuck is this meme, did I miss something

>>50348268
Jesus, what crawled up your ass and died?

Besides some items are universally useful.

>>50348241
I have decided on Swordsage from ToB because I am making an expy of Ky Kiske. Yes, I am a faggot, I'll suck your dick.
I'm looking up that stuff right now.
>>50348250
Well, I heard that you need to be able to fly, and the ribbon thing recommended means I can use whatever weapon for weapon finesse? So I guess what weapon or armor enchants are good?
>>50348268
Uh... thanks? For nothing?

>>50348295
Someone made a PF thread calling it shitseeker and now one of the ebin memesters have come here to try to troll.

>>50348295
>>50348303
we've got a new troll, just ignore him.

>>50348308
Flying isn't supremely necessary unless your GM hates you. And since you're using PoW it really should be asked what disciplines you're using, because those can cover a lot of weaknesses.

>>50348308
>An expy of Ky Kiske

Mine dark-skinned compatriat of exquisite taste. If you're using PoW and want flight, there's Elemental Flux, which would also let you cover elemental attacks. I dunno if there's an equivilent from ToB though.
I started with a Ky Kiske expy for a character I made, but it's rapidly evolved into something else. Shame I'll likely not get to play him.

>>50348331
I'm using Tome of Battle, anon, not Path of War. I'll be using mostly Desert Wind combat maneuvers, refluffed to lightning effects rather than fire.
>>50348354
>A GG fan on /tg/
I'm honestly a little surprised with how quickly people scream WEEB on this board.

>>50348369
Legit anon, use PoW instead. It's got some powercreep going for it, so it's much better.

How would you make a Witches gestalt?
Magus|Alchemist?

>>50348369
Guilty Gear is the acceptable kind of weeb considering it has value as a fighting game and isn't just bishie fuccbois, lolis, and people with animal ears.

>>50348394
I would avoid gestalting with another spellcaster

>>50348394
Witch on one side? Yeah, probably alchemists on the other, maybe investigator. If you have PoW open to you, Warder or Harbinger are possibilities as well.

>>50348390
>powercreep
I am not interested in that in the slightest, anon, but thank you.
Unless PoW has support for a dex strong, high mobility class that can't be fucked up too badly by someone going (poorly) for style and pizazz over mechanical effectiveness, I'll stick to the thing I am familiar enough with to fuck bollocks up.
>>50348397
Say, say, SAY!
GG has tittie monsters and hometown in abundance as well.

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>>50345109
>>50345140
>>50345402
>>50345761
>>50345807

Okay, so. This is something we had noticed but hadn't gotten the chance to fully remath and adjust. Thanks for your feedback though; there will be some adjustments to the targeted shapes in the near future.

It won't be in today's update, though. AoE shapes have been undergoing some revisions for today's update to be less imbalanced against each other. The focus on the developer end has been on those, the pacts, and getting the class fully ready for eyes.

Sorry again for the delay. Big book is big.

>>50347966
Fuck off, shitseekertroll. How'd your argument with CuteAnimeGirlPoster in the thread you made >>50346732 go? You'll be banned for spam at this rate.

>>50347975
>>50347158

This, Razmiran Priestess hits all of my buttons.

And someone else being into her unlocks all those kinks you can only do with three pepople.

>>50348446
Dude, don't bother replying. If it bothers you that much report them then filter the words. Let the smug animeposter deal with him.

>>50348316
>>50346732
The thread creator and troll are probs sameposters.

>>50347715

Read about Magnimar, Sandpoint, Varisia, and when you get to the Inner Sea start tabbing up the various countries found there with special focus on Taldor.

After that, head to the Pantheon and tab up Aroden, Lamashtu, Abadar, Erastil, Iomedae, Desna, Shelyn and Sarenrae.

After *that*, look up Thassilon, Azlant, the Starstone, Absalom, Earthfall and the Age of Lost Omens. Look up Tian Xia and start reading up about that continent, tab up anything and everything that interests you with special focus on Minkai and the Path of Aganhei (you might have to search that one) and the Successor Kingdoms.

It sounds like a lot of work - and it kinda is, but each page is maybe a 4-5 minute read each.

To be fair, I'm 100% sure everyone here agrees that SKR and many other devs are shit. It's why we push for 3PP and homebrews. That thread doesn't say anything /pfg/ inherently disagrees with, but bait is bait desu. I don't think /pfg/ ever denied it was a shit system for casuals a system easy to break without even trying, but hey, it's a comfy system that can be used to tell stories adequately with little issue or work when you're tired of experimenting with other systems.

I'm saying this as a regular, too. I like my broken shit d20 system.

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>>50348429
Good to know it'll be looked at. Looking forward to new pacts and class options anyways, to see what kind of beam-spam can be created.

I mean, we already have Wrath, so surely one of the pacts is with a satellite weapon AI or something.

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>>50348629
>so surely one of the pacts is with a satellite weapon AI or something.

>You make a pact with Unity

>>50348557
Not really. Baitposter's arguments of "stacking modifiers is shit and advantage/disadvantage is the best mechanism" is a poor one, and he doesn't touch on any of the actual reasons that we know why pathfinder is terrible.

I idly suspect it's the same guy who posted >>50347075 and is someone desperately trying to get a ruse, but that's because both are claiming everyone going against them is a hillary shill.

>>50348629
>I mean, we already have Wrath, so surely one of the pacts is with a satellite weapon AI or something.
Just wait for my tech book.

>>50348646
Vengeance is a cruel mistress.

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>>50344732
Does secretly planning to conver the party into undead through "accidents" in an insane attempt to keep them "alive" forever count?

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>>50348629
>>50348655

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>>50348655
>>50348890

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>>50348890

PoW class FCBs for the featured and uncommon races when? Especially Stalker, more races with extra stalker art would be pretty swell.

>>50348920
I've seen this before, so I have to ask; are there d20 rules that would make fighting this thing actually feasible?

>>50348972
Well, there's Pun-pun.

Hulking hurler with near-infinite strength when it's a galaxy or two away.

Plenty of options to kill it.

>>50348972
>are there d20 rules that would make fighting this thing actually feasible?

I think it's used in a campaign where the average "low-level" PC can make a planet their bitch.

>>50348985
That's why he's asking what rules are being used.

Because I have hard time imagining anything that isn't something like Pun-Pun or infinite X fighting this and living.

>>50348997
Exactly. Is there a set of mythic-like rules that you're supposed to be using, where it's stepping your character so far up past what we have that you can actually make a DC 500 strength check?

>>50348985
This.

Enemies like that are made for 'supplements' where the PCs might spout stuff like
>Well I don't remember it since I was just born
about being level 20.

Have we lynched 2hu for ruining the good name of both Spheres AND Path of War yet?

I've seen GMs ban both just because of 2hu.

>>50348997
You only need to be immune to death and damage to survive being near it (plenty of 3.5 spells for that). Then abuse of a damage-dealing option to kill it. Contain its Death Throes in a Force spell. It's actually pretty weak, it just has big numbers.

>>50349012
Immortal's handbook has """"""rules""""" for playing PCs of level like 20,000 or whatever.

>>50349021
not this shit again

>>50349021
No, but we should lynch you for your inane witch hunting. By shitposting against 2hu you have become worse than him.

>>50349021
2hu didn't even ruin Spheres of Path of War, dude.

>>50349021
Stop with the 2hu witch hunt. At this point you're more autistic than he could ever be.

>>50349035
>Immortal's Handbook
Thanks.

>>50349021
Anon, you do realize he only appears because you keep summoning him here, right?

If you want him to leave, then you have to ignore him. So far your salt is the only thing sustaining his existence here.

>>50349075
He literally hasn't shown up in the thread to talk about mechanics in ages.

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>>50349021
Back in the hugbox, autist.

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>>50349021

>>50349101
I wish I had a hug.

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>>50349123
>I wish I had a hug.

>>50349131

I wish I had fuck buddy/significant other

Now send one of those

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>>50349145
I can't but I think you can order those from Russia?

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>>50349145
>Now send one of those

Apply for RotJR and you'll get one, sure as sunrise!

>>50349075
>>50349096
That's because we finally drove out that 2hu fucker.

What kind of kitsune would you like to fuck most, /pfg/?

What about what kind of kitsune you'd like to waifu/husbando?

>>50349244
None, I don't fuck animals.

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Right, build I have in mind; Oracle 4/Paladin X. You probably get the gist of the build already, using Oracle for Life Link and Shield Other to passive heal the party while using Paladin's Lay on Hands to heal myself of the hp lost to passive heal. Throwing in Paladin's Sacrifice as a signature spell as well, since it fits the theme, and Heroic Defiance to emergency self-heal off turn seems like a straight up necessary precaution.
I'm also planning to use (and possibly abuse) Divine Favour from Oracle spell slots. Magical Talent and Fate's Favoured bring it up to a +3 attack/damage that stacks with weapon, but it still only lasts a minute. Any ideas on how I can improve that?
Also, unsure whether the weapon or mount from Divine Bond would be better, or how to use feats past Fey Foundling/Greater Mercy/Power Attack. Pointers on that front would also be helpful
Other factors to note:
- Half-Elf, keeping Multitalented instead of the CL boost. Dual Minded over Adaptability though.
- It's an undead-heavy campaign, so going Undead Scourge paladin made sense.
- Spirit Walker Oracle, because nothing other than Life Link seemed that great, so I'm getting that from Wandering Spirit and using my own Mystery for Nature (Cha-to-AC). It's a 15pb game so I thought being able to dump Dex would help, since upping Initiative isn't that hard.

Is there any way to play a huli jing kitsune with Extra Social Talent (Companion to the Lonely) and Celestial Obedience (Arshea) in a NON-magical realm way?

>>50349308
No, because they only reason you would be doing that is to fulfill magical realm.

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>>50349308
>Kitsune
>Companion to the Lonely
>Arshea

>>50349236
No we didn't.

He posted literally yesterday, just not about mechanics.

Friendly reminder that the GM of /pfg/'s new ERP game is encouraging fluffy tails.

Basically, you're more likely to get in if you play a kitsune waifu/trap.

>>50349330
Where's the Roll20 link for this new ERP game?

>>50349200
>>50349184
>>50349176

Since we are giving things away I would like a cuddle buddy.

Does Christmas or its equivalent exist in your world? What would your characters ask for?

>>50349346
https://app.roll20.net/join/1813269/NClvMw

>>50349317
>>50349325
What if he was a kitsune BOY, and he fucked only pretty human/elven/half-elven women?

>>50349358
>Reign of Winter
>Jade Regent
>Strange Aeons

What kind of kitsune waifu/husbando would best fit Reign of Winter and Strange Aeons?

An arctic fox kitsune and... what is the most eldritch kind of kitsune?

>>50349366
Just wait until he says what it's actually going to be, rather than trying to fit for everything.

The only reason I want a discord is to find other lewd /pfg/ people so we can lewd characters together!

>>50348394
Slayer/investigator using the minor magic talents.

>>50348394
>Witches
What is that?
I presume not the witch class?

>>50349705
>Witches
Christ autocorrect what are you doing go home you're drunk.
Witcher.

>>50349705

Given what he suggested, I *think* he meant Witcher, not WItches.

In which case Investigator|Magus I'd say.

>>50349728
Honestly, I'd do the Mutagen Fighter||Empiricist Investigator, IMO. Saves you the discovery on Mutagen, gets you better mutagens, and lets you cover all your bases. Though Magus||Investigator is still probably objectively better.

>>50349723
>>50349728
Aren't they some sort of alchemical monster-hunter type? Do they have magic as well?

>>50349770
Yeah, they do; it's in the forms of glyphs and stuff, they basically make hand sigils to finish a formula to make a magical effect.

>>50349775
So why not a something like myrmidon fighter|Herbology Hedgewitch if you want PoW and Spheres. Could take font of inspiration for being a skill monkey or the one that gets you an animal companion.

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Hey all, wanted to say that I've gotten the rest (or most of it, anyway) of the avowed uploaded to the same link as before. Also put one on this post.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2twzb&page=2?Forrestfire-Studios-A-new-company-a-unique#89

Here's a link explaining what's in and what's changed. Sorry again for the long wait.

>>50345120
that actually sounds kind of scary, like some lovecraftian horror shit

>>50345279
wot

Am I going crazy, or is the fox applicant implying he had a crush on Nualia? Because that can only end in sadness.

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What class/build would you recommend to play something as him/it?

>>50349945
Why? Did you want him to have a crush on ___you?

>>50349953
Commoner 1. He's literally a NPC who never does anything.

>>50349968
That's not true. Just because someone doesn't do anything doesn't mean they're a weak commoner. He's obviously a very charismatic individual since he got you to collect his missing mask.

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"So how's your kingmaker game going?"

>>50349968

Do commoners have powers of teleportation, planar travelling, and making giant organs appear from nothing?

>>50349968
Commoner 1 are actually highly incompetent people (beggars, drunks, town fools), commoner 3 seems appropriate.

>>50349927
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sociopathic_diplomancer_gets_shut_the_fuck_down

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>>50349957
No, but the thought of a wannabe hero's old crush turning into the villain he has to put down sounds like a great time for everyone.

>>50349985
Does the happy mask sales man? I recall no giant organs of his doing.

>>50349976
Standard quest giver. NPC's don't make any diplomacy checks to PCs

>>50349988
Probably, but he could also be something as good as an expert 3, but still just an NPC.

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>>50350020
What if the foxy fuccboi bangs Nualia anyway?

>>50350029
>Standard quest giver. NPC's don't make any diplomacy checks to PCs
They're smart enough to know they don't even have to leave it up to the roll of a die.

>>50350029

>I recall no giant organs of his doing.

When he teaches you the Song of Healing. You are talking to him when suddenly he is sitting on a gigantic organ on the same room as you.

I am very torn.

For my Oracle/Unchained Rogue I have made a few decisions.

The Rogue side is a Phantom Thief + Hidden Blade.

On the oracle side I am torn between these two routes:
>Dual Cursed Legalistic & Branded w/ Nature Mystery & Spirit Guide archetype
>Legalistic w/ Lore Mystery and Seer archetype
>Legalistic w/ Dark Tapestry Mystery and Seer archetype

The Dual Cursed nets me charisma to fortitude saves through the Branded curse in two levels, which is huge as the character's fort save isn't a good save. As well with Spirit Guide he becomes more versatile.

For the Dark Tapestry mystery it gets me a bonus to stealth and that nice shadowy armor, as well as polymorphing abilities.

The Lore mystery gets me Cha to Knowledge checks, and that's basically it, it's the lowest on the totem pole currently.

>>50350060
He basically goes "but thou must" to Link. That sounds like standard quest giver stuff.

>>50350084
And Link ate it hook line and sinker. Not that you had any other choice in a game with a linear plot.

>>50350093
That just means the GM was good at railroading, not that the HMS was a PC.

>>50350102
Isn't he like an avatar of a god or something?

>>50349021
>"shitseeker" posts deleted from thread by janitor
>this guy who keeps bashing 2hu pops up again

COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT

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>>50350079
Also the reason I am so set on either the Nature Mystery or the Seer Archetype is for Natural Divination. I don't want much else from it however which is the problem and why I like the Seet archetype.

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I almost got into a good rhythm for my backstory but then life got in the way. What sorta music do people listen to for building characters?

>>50350111
That sounds like headcanon fanwank bullshit.

>>50350122
WHAT THE FUCK IS A YELLOW DRAGON?

>>50350124
Depends. I listen to Debussy when I do a lot of my writing, but if it's something that you want to be pumped for then I dunno, Two Steps From Hell or something.

>>50350137

The children on the Moon look oddly like him. In fact they have exactly the same face under the mask.

>>50349820
Alrighty! It's not orbital strikes, but let's give it a whirl!

And now for the terrible terrible feedback:

>Heavenly Body
This powerfully angles you towards high HP, ideally "at the cost" of any resistances/reductions. If that's specifically intended then fine, but otherwise you may want to reword it to 'before reductions' or whatever to account for tankier type tanks. Other than that though, just maybe when the pulse balancing comes along you may want to double the bonus for shapes that double their damage (like wrath/blast III).

>Purifying Radiance
Can the negative level be restored/healed or 'absorbed' (say you had an ability that cancels out the first negative level suffered every x amount of time) in any way? If not, it may be too restrictive to see any real use.

>Cleansing Fire
Pic Related.

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>>50350160
Well, if you have to ask...

>>50350124
Legends of Galactic Heroes soundtrack
DOOM soundtrack
Golden Sun 1+2 soundtracks
The Protomen
Monster Hunter soundtracks
Erik Satie
FFXIV soundtrack
Fire Emblem soundtracks
Eurobeat

>>50350052
>fuccboi

nothing indicates that to be a thing, but that probably requires the player, DM, and the rest of the party to be on board with redeeming her.

>>50350124

I listen to Johnny Cash (Hurt) and anything that gets the noggin juice flowing, which could be anything from Winds of Winter (Game of Thrones OST) or Sogno di Volare (Civilization VI.)

Basically, drink a Red Bull and find a song that makes your heart flutter, and when you find it put that sucker on replay and start clacking.

>>50350224

Well, at least one of the characters I'm working on is a foundling aasimar who was raised as basically nualia's twin brother, who almost died in the fire that as far as he is aware of claimed his father, his sister, and his home, not to mention scarred him horribly and drove him to seek alcohol as a way to cope with his survivor's guilt!

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>>50350213
>Golden Sun 1+2 soundtracks
My nigga

>>50349555

Are you me? I want the same thing!

>>50350213
But anon, what if I don't want to step on the gas?

>>50350006
>The ability to reproduce still, coupled with the maturity and gentle nature of women, would lead to a utopia.

Bard player confirmed for NEVER having been part of any organization that's mostly staffed by women.

I had some horror stories from one workplace, but nothing compared to what my sister (who at first thought she'd get free writing material but eventually realized anything they show on tv would have to be severely toned down from real life lest it look unrealistic to viewers) sat in on, and even occasionally taped, at two of her jobs for about a year each.

Never forget women are the ones whispering "if you're a real man you'll attack england and that bitch queen by the land route" and other shit to flare up wars...

>>50349308

She likes a hard fuck and uses it as an expression of worship.

That's it, don't make it her entire character but make it a facet of their character.

>>50350167
Or it could be explained that the children look like him because the mask was in the HMS's possession for a long time, or the dev's were lazy and reused assets like they did with a lot of things in that game, considering the shared assets with OoT.

Occam's razor should be applied liberally.

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>>50350292
>Woman run utopia
Nice joke!

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>>50350288
>He doesn't want to be forever young

>>50350276
They're based games and based OSTs

>>50350079
>>50350123
pls advise

In addition I have considered:
>Branded w/ Dark Tapestry Mystery and Seer archetype

Legalistic allows me to have a +4 morale bonus to a skill check once a day. Branded doesn't do much but that Cha to Fort is huge.

This character's defenses are a big issue in my mind. Having to rely on counters through Hidden Blade seems dangerous in my opinion.

I am also trying to tone down the Skill Monkey side of the character.

>>50350213
I forgot MGR: Revengance and Shadow of the Colossus.

>>50349555
You don't want that.
Suspension of disbelief, anon.
It's what separates an erotic scene of torrid romance from two fatties that sound like beavis and butthead saying how they're hot for oneanother.

>>50350398
>2hufag accuser disappears; shitseeker reappears
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT

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>>50350398
>4e
>shitseeker

>>50350304

With all that effort with his strange reactions and powers? Nah, he was make to be creepy and ambiguous on purpose. It makes the setting even more eerie.

>>50349820
>Aether Rounds III
No need to wait for the tech book to add "or charges" to 'phantom ammunition'!

>>50350122
I don't think they've been ported to Pathfinder, but yes. They breathe a cone of salt or something like that.

>>50350206
>Heavenly body
Yep, celestial pact is meant to be a tank of sorts, more HP, emphasis on martyrdom tanking, since your marks make enemies focus on you as well.

And yeah, doubling the damage boost on AoEs is probably a good idea. I'll make a note of that.

>Purifying radiance
Yes, it can be removed normally.

>pic related
Did you forget the pic

>>50349820
>>50350652

I've read through everything I think is different from last time and here's what I've got for questions/corrections

Elemental Pact
>Sense: Does air element let you detect all breathing creatures?

>Overwhelm: Worded kind of strangely. Rather than 'if you have energy resistance' maybe 'if your energy resistance from the pact is active'?

>Elemental Ally: Not sure if the wording allows it to do any out of combat favours for you or not

==

>Aether Blast 4th selection: Can the two blasts be resized separately?

>Aether Lance: Description calls it Aether Lancer in one line

>Lance 4th selection: If you make a 45 degree diagonal line with your lance you can extend it in four possible directions, so 'either' is a weird word to use

==

>Flesh Sculptor clause is missing from the initial smalltext list


Court Fey pact best, but why doesn't it get Stealth as a class skill when its features are based off it?

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>>50350652
of course not. don't be silly.

on that note Aether Wave does not feel... wavelike. It feels more 'rampage'y or 'chain'y

I mean it's neither some kind of wave, nor some kind of wave-motion (you know *exactly* what I mean) either, it's... it's a chain. Even 'Ripple' would be more sensible a name.

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I'm making a character for RotJR, but I can't think of a name for him. He's human, male and a Sandpoint native. Any ideas?

>>50350652
Also, tinker archetype:
Something really doesn't sit well with trading a first level clause, which is a permanent new ability, for a 50 charge wand that you use up and ditch somewhere down the line.

You're trading a clause for the equivalent of 750gp (Or even 375gp since you craft), which feels like a really bad trade if you're starting at anywhere past level 3.

Maybe it's not a 1-for-1 trade and it's meant to balance out the other class features, but I think it would just ~feel~ nicer if you made it look like it was part of a different trade, like replaced by Tinkering instead.

>>50350797
>Sense: Does air element let you detect all breathing creatures?

It would, and pinpoint them as a move action.

>>Overwhelm: Worded kind of strangely. Rather than 'if you have energy resistance' maybe 'if your energy resistance from the pact is active'?
Well, it works if you have any resistance of any sort. The pact gives you one energy resistance, your race might give others, there'a a clause for one...

>Aether Blast 4th selection: Can the two blasts be resized separately?
As written, currently not. It should though.

>>Aether Lance: Description calls it Aether Lancer in one line
Noted

>Lance 4th selection: If you make a 45 degree diagonal line with your lance you can extend it in four possible directions, so 'either' is a weird word to use
It should extend in all directions (making a 2x2xN line). I'll adjust the wording in the next update.

>Court Fey pact best, but why doesn't it get Stealth as a class skill when its features are based off it?

Whoops. It'll have it later.

>>50350805
Yeah, it needs a new name, we're not sure what to do with it currently, but it'll have one in the next update.

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>>50350945
Jacob Forthwit

>>50350964
Noted. It was in part that the tinker replaces a couple things with abilities scattered over a few things. Tinkering and the wand, combined, were meant to replace that clause, but I can see it not feeling right.

I'll adjust that.

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How short are your Medium-sized non-dwarves, /pfg/?

How (wo)manlet-tier are they? When will they learn?

Friendly reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbBcxOcoZ_4

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>>50350965
Also the new 4th level of Wrath both gave and took away (and it took away so much).

When you're first reading through that sentence, all you can think is "I can finally aim that thing horizontally". But then, just before a cataclysmic orgasm shatters the Canadian Shield, driving the Americas into a final deadly spiral of chaos and infrastructure loss....

>you can just put the base wherever it still fires upwards

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

>>50350945
Humans in Varisia are typically Varisian, which means a Romani name, Chelaxian, which means a Roman name, or Shoanti, which means a Native American name. There are also small pockets of Tien, Taldans, Ulfen, some Keleshites, all of which have different naming patterns. His home town is less helpful than his heritage.

>>50351007
The old 4th of Wrath is now a feat. We had to adjust Wrath and Breath down in power some since they were just so much better than the other Reflex AoEs, and we felt that being able to shoot through, over, or under barriers was a better setup and powerful boost for it.

A miles-long, massively-wide line would be impossible to balance on a good day, and it'd be even sillier at level 6, anon.

>>50350945

You didn't give us a lot of information to go on.

What does he DO? Names should be extensions of the character personality and occupation.

>>50350979
Two tinker things from a friend:
1) They're sad about the fact that it can't take 10 on UMD like classic warlocks
2) The quantum wand ability might be completely broken by RAW if it really lets you trade the spell for /any/ other spell (Ie higher level ones)

Point 1 also makes me realise that at level 1, your UMD bonus is going to be... maybe 8 or 9 max? You'd have a less than 50% chance of activating your starter wand and a 5% chance of breaking it for the rest of the day whenever you tried.

>>50351046
That's horrifyingly JRPGish.
Could we NOT start naming characters "Fate Linegod" or the like? Even at the best of times it's a porno stagename at best.

>Hi there, I'm Grant Dingle, you may know me by my porn name; Grand Dingle.
>Why do they call you Grand Dingle?
>*CUE PORN JAZZ*

>>50351091
1. Oh god, how'd I forget to add that. That was meant to come online early.
2. It's meant to replace with spells of the same level. Fixing and re-uploading now.

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Have you ever used Dragons in your games?
I think they're supposed to be somewhat common-ish, or at least that's the picture I've gotten from Dragons Revisited.
Something like "Dragons? Oh, haven't seen one myself but one visited the next town south some three years ago, I think?"

>>50350985
pic related

>>50351102
What, not a fan of names like Flintcoal Steelbrand the dwarf miner?

>>50351102
I mean, many surnames are based on the person's occupation, so it's not that off, and there are plenty of examples of cultures where the peasantry had different names than the nobility. Still, I'm sticking by my statement that his ethnicity should be the determining factor.

Pathfinder at this point feels like Modern format in MTG
Too much bullshit, wish we were just playing Standard

>>50351102
>not being able to have meaningful names that don't stand out horribly

what kind of uncreative fuck are you

>>50351102

Shit son, I wasn't going full JRPG here, I'm just saying certain names suit certain characters depending on their jobs or personalities.

You want a sleazy dirtbag to be named Silas, or a big tough brawler named Boris. I'd be fine with a Cleric named Jack, but Bartholomew rolls off the tongue a bit better, know what I'm saying?

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>>50351043
Well 'wide lines' do need to be a thing. I see you kinda made a little rectangle in the Lance. More of that is definitely a good thing. Lines tend to be underpowered even with their length anyways compared to cones (who have what, five time the area despite half the length?) so a 3-5 wide line wouldn't really be a problem even when it's longer than a cone.

Granted, the Wrath one is *MAYBE* mildly too wide (my instincts are screaming that accepting that is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong) at low levels, but the length and potential to combine it with annihilation pulse are definitely something to consider when facing sentient castles and the like.

Which are probably a thing somewhere.
Or It's as a uh, violent terrain alteration thing.
Yeah.

Do Undead have souls?
Well not have maybe probably, but does Necromancy usually interfere with the bodies' souls?
Don't only liches and vampires and things like that actually have a soul, most just being bodies animated by negative energy hijinks?

>>50350976
That doesn't feel right
>>50351037
I guess he'd be Varisian.
>>50351046
Hr is a librarian first and foremost, but due to an accident involving a pipe his library has been destroyed and he is noe a mercenary, searching for knowledge, books and gold to build his library back and hopefully, true love . He views this mercenary phase as nothing more than a hands on learning experience, but he will protect whoever he travels with (ie, the party) as best he can.
On a more mechanical side, he's a LN Human male Lore Warden/Slayer
18
13
14
10
12
14

Effective CMD of 23, CMB of +11
Large bastard sword +6 to hit, 2d8+6 damage
AC 16
Touch 12
Flat 14

Feats:
Shield of Swings
Power Attack
Cleave
Combat Expertise
EWP (bastard sword)
Pushing Assault
Deft Maneuvers
Powerful Maneuvers
Deadly Aim

He's also a very good skill monkey, has a 1d6 Sneak Attack, Studied Target, Track and Bravery.

Is there anything on Axis and Maelstrom, aside from The Great Beyond?

>>50351234
Jonas Paran.

>>50351229
Mindless undead do not have souls
They are just flesh that is moved by negative energy

>>50351201
Wide lines are something I'd like to use more of, but Aether Wrath is /not/ the place to do it.

>>50351091
Okay, fixed those. Check the note added in Aether Spark, and at level 4 in Tinkering.

>>50351293
>check the tinker
>"they"
>pronouns of the class match gender of the iconic

The fuck is this SJW shit, forrest?

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>>50350607
>Cone of Salt
Funny looking dragons, the yellow ones.

How do we know if the RotJR is a good GM?

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>>50351328

>>50351328
Elementary. If they were a good GM, they wouldn't need to advertise in /pfg/.

>>50351328
To be honest he's seems pretty chill.

I don't personally know the guy though. He doesn't seem like a dick from the char gen thread though.

>>50351328
He's not. But do are you really so flush for games that you're not going to apply anyway?

>>50349820
Self pact is an odd thing. Monklock is a valid niche and the mechanics are sound but it feels a bit conceptually underwhelming compared to what I imagined it would be. I was thinking some sort of supernatural empowerment by your aspirations, promises and higher ideals to become the most charismatic, storybook-like and memorable guy the world has ever seen, like a Turbo Living Legend whose emulated hero is the person they want to be; instead it's just dedication to being strong and healthy.

Which, isn't bad, just, odd.
It's the most mundane of the pacts in terms of supernatural flavor, which jars with the fact it's the conceptually weirdest pact to make.

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>>50351328

>tfw building character
>tfw take Defiant Luck, Inexplicable Luck, and Lucky at level 3 for SO MUCH LUCK

>>50351393
DON'T GIVE NTORACLE ANY NEW IDEAS!

>>50351310
Wait wait wait.

It COULD be acceptable...

Tell me the iconic is some kind of swarm unit.

>>50351415
They seem to be a snarky kobold.

>>50351399
This is NToRacle.

>>50351415
>It's They. The tinker is a 'They'
>Oh what the fuck, not you too. Come on. Pronouns are designed to simplify communication and~
>Dude. Look.
>*It's a pile of 600 cranium rats*
>OH. THAT'S WHY.

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>>50351350
You know the game is never going to happen, right?