Warhammer 40k General

FIRST FOR THOUSAND SONS

SECOND FOR TRAITOR LEGIONS

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Just a reminder that TTS is actaully canon and Alfabusa is actaully head of GW

Ordo Draigo codex when?

Third for pony

Generic Chaos Marines best Chaos Marines. God blessings are for bitches

Since there's no Kill Team general up:

Bought a pack of Skitarii to try my AdMech colors on before painting my Dominus and my Cult Mechanicus stuff, though not planning to actually expand on Skitarii themselves.

Are they good for Kill Team as a pure 10-man team? Are Vanguards or Rangers better and what upgrades are decent in Kill Team (seeing as I have never played Kill Team before)?

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ELABORATE KNOTWORK

>>50332998
DRAIGO POWERS, GO GO GO GO.....

>>50332998
Now if only they'd release unarmored Custodes as well.

>>50333038
>Even the those.

Does nobody proof read this shit?

So, I am thinking about getting into 40K, most probably just for the painting. Since Mechanicus was always my favourite option, I plan to get their start collecting box.

But I have no idea what other gear do I need. I heard that stuff from GW is overpriced for its quality, so I plan to get in in some other miniature hobbyshop, but what should I get.

Also paints? Do you guys use Citadel or is there something better?

$80 termis
Fucking really?

Can't wait for Thousand sons

>>50333109
Citadel, Reaper and Vallejo paints are the most commonly used ones.

The Skitarii Start Collecting box is a great fucking deal if you want to start out with them, saves you a ton of money.

As for supplies, getting a few fine brushes of decent quality is a good idea (don't save on those and make sure you're not getting garbage). Blue tac can help fixate minis on a grip to easily reach everything without touching the mini itself.

Most importantly, and this'll take a lot of practice to get right: THIN. YOUR. PAINTS. Unthinned paint often ends up looking like play dough on your mini and nobody wants that.

If you need more advanced help, there's always /wipg/ over here >>50325810

>>50333109
There's nothing wrong with the Citadel stuff and by buying it in store you get access to people with experience. It's handy to have people there to help you in person and teach you more about painting, that and it's nice to sit with other people who waste their income on plastic men

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>>50333038
<wolfyiff tells me to take the knot
>mfw

>>50333200
I google searched this image and it suggested "International management group"

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So how do you folks think they'll handle Codex: Imperial Agents?

I guess we can do some wishlisting till we get more info.

Is there a digital version of Planetary Onslaught out there?

>>50332999
Discord confirmed for Tzeentch

So how are the imperial assassins eversor/callidus whatever? What's the best way to try to use them and is it viable to use them all.

>>50333264
wishlist
units that count as x-choice for any army of the imperium with some possible exceptions. or units that don't take up any slots
a supplement for all imperial armies basically
it's not gonna happen i know but it's my wish

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Still no epub of Planetary Onslaught? Kinda interested now since they changed the rules of some forts and added buyable terrain (fucking 10pts woods! Imma go hippie!)

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trying to finalise the colours for my sisters, does this look alright?

>>50333305
I dunno, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's going to happen. Maybe with some formations for some factions that let them operate as a full arm, but I see it as a way of them testing the waters for a variety of different factions and seeing which ones people enjoy the most. Then those can be grown into a new faction, like how Deathwatch and GSC were.

So we're getting.. 2 supplements? One for traitor legions.. and one for TS specifically? Will I be able to use the "chapter tactics" with the decurion from traitors hate, or was that book just 45 bucks in the lake? Except for the spells, I guess.

This is so weird.
Blox blox

>>50333017
There's already half a dozen codex for Marines that aren't steeped in codex. We don't need that contrarian retardation clogging up Codex: CHAOS Space Marines.

>>50333254
The Redeemer, it can be found in the MEGA.

>>50333355
Nobody knows. It might make use of the formations from Traitor's Hate and just add more rules, or this might be the fourth CSM supplement this year that wastes half the book reprinting the same bevy of formations.

>>50333325
I'd go for a slightly deeper purple, but otherwise it's looking good.

What are the rules for rotor cannons?

>>50333355
AFAIK

one real supplement and one Thousand sons vs Space wolves campaign

>>50333392
>rules for rotor cannons
30K 30" S3 AP6 Salvo 3/4.

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What faction do I roll to fuck with people?

I don't care about winning. I just want to bathe in the frustration-tears of my enemies.

>>50333401
thats... dissapointing
1k sons are getting those?

>>50333392
Bad. 30" s3 ap6 salvo 3/4

>>50333422
No, we dont know what they are getting, beyond it looks like a half way house between and assault cannon and a rotor cannon.

so its anybodies game

>>50333422
No

>>50333416
Tau. You don't even have to play, just post about them is enough to lure out at least few frothing berserks. But if you actually end up playing them you can ignore like half of your opponent special rules and benefits, JSJ to never get retaliated. Use fuck huge machines that are MC's etc.
Tears will flow and you will never be thirsty anymore.

>>50333422
No. Even a glance at the model can tell you they arent rotor cannons.

>>50333422
Just remeber Thousand sons Bolters are ap3 and soul blaze, so you can probably put that on top of the rotor cannons profile

>>50333416
30k alpha legion

>>50333441
Hopefully they're S4 AP3 Soulblaze. That's what I want

>>50333416
Gsenestealer Cults, as you can bathe in everyone's tears, even the preexisting cheesemongers.

or you can roll poorly and get fcked

>>50333450
It says in my new white dwarf "or the soul reaper cannon (2) the rotor cannon"

>>50333329
I think this is likely what it's gonna be, a sampler to test the waters for some more faction expansion while providing some slot in things for all Imperium factions. I expect this will also be the teaser for the new plastic sisters stuff, with a possibility of there being a full sisters release down the road.

>>50333264
I'd like to see Inquisition made more generic rather than needing the Ordos, just have a generic inquisitor choice with tons of options to specialize them for an Ordo

I'd also like to see some weird reverse ally things possibly since this is shaping up to be an odd codex. Namely a few options to take things from other Codices as choices, like have say DW vets and Battle sisters as troops choices in the book and just list off something like "Infantry Platoon from Codex Astra Militarum may be taken as a troops choice" something vaguely like that so it can ramshackle itself into a proper army with just its own codex.

I dunno, such an odd compilation would be nice if it had some fun weirdness going on for it.

I know you could just do standard ally stuff but it would be nice to do things like that to just have an inquisitor and their own little shit tier guard dudes under his direct command for fluff reasons.

GW hunting them whales

>>50333469
So a soul reaper, not a rotor cannon.

>>50333325
If you need a name, try "The Saints of Row"

>>50333441
Soulreaper Cannon

Rapid Fire: Range 30" S3 AP3 Salvo 2/3 Soulblaze
Concentrated Fire: Range 30" S4 AP- Heavy 1 Rending, Force

HELLFYRE Missile Rack
Hellfyre Myssyle: Range 24" S4 AP4 Heavy D3 Blast, Soulblaze
Wyrdfyre Myssyle: Range 24" S8 AP- Heavy 1, Twin-linked, Force

Flamer

S5 AP3 Heavy 1 Template, Warpflame (that rule that gives things it hits FNP)

>>50333465
Don't know much about GSC. What do they do that's tear-worthy?

>>50333445
Will take Tau into consideration, thanks anon.

>>50333483
Hopefully god willing its AP3 soulblaze. That would annoy people

>>50333496
Sourse?

>>50333483
it literally says 'the rotor cannon'

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>>50333496

>AP 3 flamer

>>50333496
>Ap - missile
sure, yeah , i believe you

>>50333422
>>50333441
>>50333442
>>50333450
>>50333451

Last thread established that they are "Soul Reaper Canons" and are likely to have soul blaze or be AP3 inferno rounds.

See the White Dwarf leak.
>>50329288

>>50333481

What did he mean by this

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>>50333254
>I google searched this image and it suggested "International management group"
I suppose it does take talent to be a good Redemptionist.

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>>50333469
The origins
The assault cannons' origins is the autocannon The storm bolters' origins is the combi-bolter

It's not their current form however.

>>50333496
>ap- force

Doubt it, also it should be called a HELLFYRE Myssyle rack then.

>>50333520
>what is a a deathwind missile launcher

>>50333489
Hah perfect. Their nickname at the moment is "the sisters of booby"

>>50333531
> HELLFYRE Myssyle
kek

>>50333538
a drop pod missile launcher at str 5, with a large blast, you ninny

>>50333522
Whales are people with fat bank accounts and no self control, so they can be baited into dumping huge amounts of cash on things that really shouldn't be such huge amounts of cash. It's a term used in the f2p marketplace for the people that drop $1000 on boosters to show off to friends or just feel superior.

Meanwhile, at GW
Tzaangors $45
Scarab Occult Terminators: $60
Wrath of Magnus: $75
Rubric Marines: $50
Exalted Sorcerers: $60
Magnus: $130
Ahriman: $40

>>50333531
I should have fucking read it properly. Thanks man that puts relief in me

>>50333522
whale (plural whales)

Any of several species of large sea mammals of the order Cetacea.

(figuratively) Something, or someone, that is very large.

(figuratively) Something, or someone, that is excellent.

(gambling) In a casino, a person who routinely bets at the maximum limit allowable.

(by extension) A video game player who spends large amounts of money on premium content.

>>50333548

Is this some sort of knock on the TS release? How does it differ from GW's usual releases?

>>50333481

Yeah I did notice a lot of fat chicks in the community team on the new community website

Man I fucking love fat chicks when have attractive faces wish more were in the hobby

>>50333576
>Is this some sort of knock on the TS release?
Yes.

>How does it differ from GW's usual releases?
His birthday is 10 months away.

>>50333509
CONFIRMED reliable source on dakka

Scarab Occult cost 2 Rhinos and a bolt pistol each, weapons are + a Plasma Gun on top

Statline is as Terminators but S+P, I1 and ML1. Have their own power that adds 1S to guns but if they roll a 1 to hit they take Perils

Magnus costs 60 Multimeltas and is:

WS6 BS6 S6 T6 I6 W6 A4 Ld10 Sv -/4++

Armed with Staff of Magnus (S+2, AP4, Cumbersome, Force and can shoot an AP3 template with a S equal to the number of Warp Charges spent that Psychic phase)

ML6, knows all Lore of Change powers and the Rubric of Ahriman which is super cool, it's a witchfire that makes people test Ld or take a wound for each point they fail by, and if it kills them you roll on a table

1: Chaos Spawn controlled by opponent
2-4: 1kSon
5: Scarab Occult
6: Lord of Change but Magnus takes Perils

>>50333583

None of the fat chicks on the community website have attractive faces

>>50333592

So lowly MC for a model that size, disappointing.

>>50333416
Lychguard / decurion necrons. Enemies will cry when save everything. Add wraiths for even more tears

>>50333592
>2 Rhinos and a bolt pistol each
...71?

That's pricey.

>Magnus costs 60 Multimeltas
No, can't give a serious reply to that.

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>>50333592

>Magnus has a power that turns enemies into power armoured marines/terminators

Better buy even more of those new kits...

>>50333645

Thank GOODNESS at the CHEAP prices we get for such an AMAZING kit.

Really balanced too!

>>50333592
if these are legit the only good thing on magnus is the auto S10 AP3 flamer and the ML6

I hope he has eternal warrior because ID is going to fuck him right up, or a culexus

>>50333450
Maybe if you're a blind fuck.

>>50333483
Yeah, and Reaper Autocannon is not an Autocannon.

I'm sure they're gonna have some different rules, but expecting some S4 AP3 Heavy 6 Rending Soul Blaze is just wishlisting. If they weren't going to use the rotor cannon as a base, they wouldn't have made it a rotor cannon.

>>50333616
Lore of Change is why you take him

Primaris: WC1, model gets +2 to invulns and inflicts a S3 AP3 hit with Blind to anything it saves a wound against

>>50333592
Gotta say, i just dont believe that. a model mangus looks too shit, and his weapon is so so.

71 points for a terminator at ML1, seems....silly

Question, are Raiders good for ramming and tank shocking? Want to put a shock prow on mine

>>50333576
Enjoy your $50 troops. It's not that big of a jump, but price creep showing its head.

>>50333589
As if I even want to buy edgemarines

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>>50333653

I don't even know how to square it away with the lore

>There are Rubric and Scarab Occult Elite walking around who in their past lives use to be guardsmen

>>50333531
>The assault cannons' origins is the autocannon

"The forebear of the later assault cannon, the Rotor Cannon was a multi barrelled stubber that could sustain an extraordinary rate of fire."
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-BE/Legion-Rotor-Cannon-Set-2015

>>50333681

Hey there are some dusty worlds out there in the imperium, who knows?

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>>50333592
>yfw DAEMON PRIMARCH is as tough and strong as some space commie walker
If tau had existed in 30k the whole heresy would have never happened because humanity would have been BTFO'd so hard.

>>50333592

Smells like teen bullshit fampai.

>>50333592
>2-4: 1kSon
>5: Scarab Occult
>6: Lord of Change but Magnus takes Perils
>>50333645
>>50333681
This is hilarious.

>>50333695
It was the autocannon in the SM codex.

>>50333701
>If tau had existed in 30k the whole heresy would have never happened because humanity would have been BTFO'd so hard.
if tau existed in 30k, they'd be steamrolled by the mass legions and titans.

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>>50333701
>mfw
Nice bait.

>>50333701
his primaris turns him into 2++, tzeentch makes him reroll 1's on that

honestly just tie him up with a culexus for 5 turns and be done with it

>>50333724
It's bait, Anon.

>>50333592

Source your lies.

>>50333726
>implying he is coming down from the sky
'You'll never catch me now!BAHAHAHA''

>>50333712
Where?

>>50333726
He would kill Culexus in 2 rounds of combat.

>>50333655
He has. Hes not Monstrous Creature.

>>50333592
>Have their own power that adds 1S to guns but if they roll a 1 to hit they take Perils

Fucking no. Please link your source.

>>50333751
>He would kill Culexus in 2 rounds of combat.

WS1 vs WS7, hitting on 5+
6 attacks, 5+ to hit, 2+ to kill, 4++ invuln

actually yeah you are right, but still 2 rounds of him only casting on 6+ and losing 6 warp dice is worth 140 points

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Just reposting my raider from yesterday, feel like we don't have enough miniature pictures in this thread.

>>50333776


Why is the highlighting so thick

>>50333019
Bumping my post in hopes of help.

>>50333787

Still working on my brush strokes, planning on doing another pass at it today.

>>50333771
How is the assassin getting into combat with him?

>>50333726
>culexus
>surviving template

If he can use it in overwatch ofq

>>50333776
looks sick man, any other pics of your army?

CONFURMED by a RELIABLE POSTER on BULLSHIT

Rubric Terminators will cost 5 land raiders and a Ressurection Orb each! They'll have AP7 twin linked boltpistols, and be mastery level 8, but only know a power that makes them perils!

Magnus will cost 4 points, have a statline of all 7's and owns a Cadillac!

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>>50333826

Heres my warriors

>>50333019
So, you want vanguard, the assault 3 is fucking nuts in KT. pick up a plasma culvrive on a PE guy, and you can fuck up people all day erry day

>>50333680
>It's not that big of a jump
I think it might actually be cheaper than the old hybrid kit.

>>50333830
fuck off Hastings

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>>50333837

Slowly getting better at painting since this is the first army I've painted in 6 years since I started buying warhammer as a kid.

>>50333800
>>50333811

obviously this is assuming i can make him take a grounding check, which on a 2++ is gonna be fucking hard

assault him with something else, they die to the flamer and then culexus assaults, or they get in combat and the culexus assaults

the latter is worse, because then the culexus would lose combat by however many things magnus kills

its a long shot for sure, but if you manage it you are taking a massive chunk of power off the board for a few turns

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>>50333830
>MFW

>>50333680
>10 Space Marines have are usually 40-70. (Tacticals on low end, Deathwatch Vets on high end)
>10 Rubrics are 50
>Before Rubrics were 39+21 for 6 with 4 leftover not Rubric'd

PRICE CREEP IS REAL

>>50333849
>if i manage all these 1-in-a-millon things then i can do a thing!
dosent seem likely, though you might be right

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>>50333830

>1280 point each terminators with bolt pistols

For chaos, this would not surprise me.

>>50333848
I love your scheme, I'm a sucker for purple.

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>>50333592
>mangus stat line not all 9's, including LD and sv
SAD

>>50333918

>9+ Armour save, rolled on 9 dice

>>50333322

Wait WHAT you can buy terrain? Thats fucking amazing for Dark Eldar, hell I would paint up some army specific terrain if that was real

>>50333838
Thank you, anon.

Will try this.

>>50333787
Up close it'll look weird, but actually layering up your highlights an extra layer gives it a really bright look that pops out at tabletop distance.

>>50333924
>Tzeenchian¬!

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>T6
>TFW almighty Magnus the Red, primarch, giant fucking daemon prince will die to conscripts

>>50333939
Forgot to add that this particular deldar player should probably use a darker purple and have that bright purple as his thin edge highlight. Needs washes too. Nuln is king.

>>50333877

Thanks man! really liked the dark elf colour scheme and tried to replicate it and add the orange and ice blue for some contrast. I think I might try red for my next squad of guardians and see how that compares thought.

>>50333969
>1 wound every 72 shots
>432 shots required
doable

>>50333973

Thanks Anon, I haven't washed the raider yet so i probably will go do that right now, il pick up some darker purple next time im at the store though when I pick up my scourges so thanks!

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>>50333933
Sure can!

>>50334003

rules for placing it?

>>50334003
>area terrain is coming back
Fuck yeah!

>>50334009
No idea. Probably like fortifications, would make a lot of sense.

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>>50333969

>Tell us who slew the mighty and terrible Daemon Primarch, Magnus the Red, grandpa. Was it the earth shaking Titans of the Mechanicus? The Emperor's own Angels of Death?
>No, just men.

>>50333670
Blind he says. Yeah the origins are rotor cannons but so are fucking assault cannons. Would you see an assault cannon and call it a rotor cannon? No because they arent the same fucking weapon with visually distict models. Jesus christ.

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>>50333592
>Chaos Spawn controlled by opponent
As a SW player I know what conversion I need to represent this

>>50333069
Made
To
Order

the old mini from RT will do perfectly

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>>50334106
>Space Wolf Wolf-Spawn

>>50333264
I want it to have a full SoB codex.

>>50334106

I'd require from my opponent to have spare chaos spawns for me to cuck him with his own minis.

Also it will be hillarous - not only conscripts can kill him, but also can be changed to chaos spawns.

>>50333969
>>50333999
That's what, 2-3 rounds of FRFSRF from a max Platoon? Not counting any armour or specialists also in the list

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>>50334089
>visually distinct models

See, this is why I say you're blind. Take away the bling and it's a fucking rotor cannon.

>>50334181
Your're a fucking rotor cannon

>>50334152
50 unit max for 150 shots with FRFSRF
Add in an inquisitor with psyocculum for the unit to be bs10 against psykers

>>50334195
BS 10 is irrelevant vs FMC

>>50334193
You're fucking a rotor cannon.

>>50334216
so knock him out of the sky with your aegis defense turrets first

>>50334181
You're a fucking rotor cannon

>>50334195
Fucking hell, 145 saves if my maths correct

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>>50334152
>>50334195
>>50334216

Not platoon, just conscripts as you probably snap shoting anyway. Add some prefered enemy stuff and here you go. If he lands/fall, you can eat him in melee with them too.

Also, i can't wait for my moment of glory when my commander just finish him with pic related.

>>50334227
>I was born with 6 dicks
>I was born for this day

>>50334241
You're a fucking rotor cannon

This whole thread is fucking Rotor Cannons

>>50334259
God I want to play guard

Quick question: Do militarum tempestus count as imperial guard for lord of war choices?

>>50333109
>But I have no idea what other gear do I need. I heard that stuff from GW is overpriced for its quality, so I plan to get in in some other miniature hobbyshop, but what should I get.

Citadel paints are okay
you need primer, most people use spray, i use brush-on primer, citadel brushon primer is shit, use valejo

brushes are something noone agrees on, which are better. natural, synthetic etc. It is important to have a good tip ->read up on basic brush care, things are sensitive

furthermore you need something to cut minis from the sprues, a good clipper and sharp knife/file (<-this is were people usually say citadel is overpriced compared to DIY store stuff for hobby electricians) I strech this as i have bought many a model from ebay, where the intrepid assembler did not properly clean the connection to the sprue, leaving a small bumb, which resulted in things not fitting properly

for glue plastic can be glued using plastic glue, non plastic (resin, metal) needs superglue. plastic can also be glued using superglue. USE glue sparingly.

To fill some gaps, you can use green stuff, which is a very finely grained modelling putty. Again GW stuff is rather expensive. For some things liquid green stuff (green stuff but in paint form) is also good.

Lastly while GW starters offer inch-rulers in stick form (for free), everyone shells out some $$$ for a rectractable ruler with an inch selection. The normal GW is again pricier then cheap DIY models, if you can find one with an inch scale.

>>50334181
Even if you take it at a strictly model level, the difference in ammunition being used is enough to suggest that the rubric variant will have at least inferno bolts if not other special rules

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>>50334283
Sup white boy

>>50333264
wishlisting is strange
Inquisition: Needs models not rules.
SoB: needs models not rules
Assassins: a new type of assasin would be lulz but otherwise they are okay

what are the other factions?

>>50334310
Grey knights and astropaths were mentioned in the text.
Probably arbites, no idea who else.

>>50334310
>>50334323
Oh Custodes and Sisters of silence

So that's like... 7

>>50333355
what we get, noone knows. My assumption is dogshit as its a supplement for codex dogs-shit-on-us.

I think traitors hate is not worth the paper its printed on, regardless of the quality of the traitor legion dex. GW uses good nice paper for their codices.

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>>50334265

>>50334290
No.

>>50333592
Nice bait you liar.

>>50334283
Apparently according to the new white dwarf it's a "soul reaper cannon", so definitely not a rotor cannon

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>>50333592

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>>50334310
SoB for sure need rules

>>50334323
>>50334335
This is pretty much right, we have talk of Deathwatch, Grey Knights, SoB, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Inquisition, and Assassins, most people think Custodes and SoS are gonna get in too, the last one is a toss up but probably like Storm Troopers or something.

>>50334371
yeah, just like the thousand sons use "soulwytchfyre boltguns" which are definitely not bolters

>>50334384
Oh yeah Scions.

Not sure about Deathwatch though.

It'd cost a lot if they were to include that.

>>50333498
>Tear Worthy
You roll a 6 on the WL table with a Patriarch, or a 6 on the Ambush table with 20 purestrain and a Patriarch. Enjoy eating a Riptide wing, or a Wraithknight T1

>>50334408
They use Bolt guns with Inferno Rounds, which do alter the profile in a significant way.

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>>50334408
They're armed with fucking Hooters that fire fucking inferno bolts, you cunt.

>>50334408
Except TS use boltguns with inferno rounds

false equivocacy brah

>>50334434
>>50334436
>>50334440
actually, they've been renamed into Inferno Boltguns™ and also carry Warpfyre Flamers™

>>50334408
Well in this case the terminators are also listed as using the soul reaper cannon so it's more likely it is a heavy weapon profile

which is pretty natural for the snp rubrics

>>50334424
I mean it says right there, talking about DW kill teams and Assassins.

It seems likely these won't be full codices here, more like the actual DW codex where it's kinda sets of formations to take them with other armies.

are TS still slow and purposeful if that has been announce yet

>>50334481
gonna venture a guess at yes but they are confirmed being able to give every rubric a "sigil marked warpflamer" and one can take the soul reaper cannon which is a heavy weapon.

>>50334481
We know nothing about the actual rules, other than that there are ten formations, nine data sheets, and multiple psychic disciplines.

>>50334466
most terminator weapons are assault weapons

The only exceptions are (I believe) the autocannon and the missile launcher.

Given it's straight up called a warp-fucked rotor cannon, I'd wager it's a salvo weapon of some description. Like the rotor cannon.

>>50334465
Odds are pretty good that they'll still be AP3 or at least do something different from ordinary bolters.

>>50333416
IA:13 renegades and heretics.

Renegade Command Squad
4x Disciple w/ Lasgun, Flak Armour
Arch Demagogue
Flak Armour, Laspistol, Master of the Horde, No Chaos Covenant, Warlord

Troops
6x:
Renegade Infantry Platoon
Platoon Command Squad
10x Renegade w/ Lasgun
Renegade Infantry Squad
10x Renegade w/ Lasgun
Renegade Infantry Squad
10x Renegade w/ Lasgun
Renegade Infantry Squad
10x Renegade w/ Lasgun
Renegade Infantry Squad
10x Renegade w/ Lasgun

Heavy Support
Renegade Support Squad
4x Autocannon Team
Militia Training

2x
Renegade Tank Squadron
Vanquisher
2x Multi-meltas, Heavy Stubber, Lascannon, Militia Training
Vanquisher
2x Multi-meltas, Heavy Stubber, Lascannon, Militia Training

there:
1750 points
4 leman russ vanquiser for anti-armor duty

4 autocannon teams coz why not

240 renegade guardsman in 24 handy 10 man squads. Remember to give each squad its own color.

And a nice HQ.squad coz you need one

>>50334259
Well he would still get his re-rolling 2++ because the Pea-shooter of Cadia only comes in to effect on armour saves.

>>50334527
correct, but it's not really a stretch to imagine the soulreaper cannon being a rotor cannon with ap3

What actually has me curious are the flamers. I can't see them doing ap3 flamers on a full squad, but if not that, then what?

>>50334535
sorry 30 10 man squads, i forgot the platoon command squads, giving you an somewhat carryable 300 dudes (the new GW boxes can carry many infantry dudes...)

>>50333176
>>50333187
Thanks for insight. One more question: Is there possibility of GW restocking the Mechanicus paint bundle? Or does thet never happen?

>>50334560
Potentially just jacking the flames of tzeentch? S4 AP4 Soulblaze, warpflame flamers?

>>50334560
>I can't see them doing ap3 flamers on a full squad

They aren't S:D AP:2

>>50334568
The paint bundles are just One-Click things. You dont get them cheaper, just buy them separately

>>50334617
those don't exist shut up

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So I'm torn how to paint my Skitarii

On the one hand, Mars is sexy. Mars also has painting guides out the ass and seems like a pretty easy one to do.

On the other hand, Stygies is also sexy. But it seems a little more difficult and it doesn't look quite as good on straight Admech from what I can tell.

Anybody have good pictures of painted non-Mars Admech armies?

Does anyone have that picture of Farsight and his gang all lined up?

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>>50334617
S4 Ap3 flamers on a full squad?
I wonder if that is possible....

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>>50334670

Why are the Skitarii Dragoon models have such a disappointingly boring pose.

Are there any converted dragoon poses out there for inspiration?

Can only Genestealers use the goliath?

It's an imperial vehicle no?

>>50333548

>2x Tzaangors $90
>2x Rubrics $100
>1x Termis $60
>Sorcerers $60
>$310 for what I assume has to be close to 1000 points

That's not so bad. But I assume those are USD prices and I'm comparing with CAD prices so maybe it is bad.

>>50334310
>Assassins: a new type of assasin would be lulz

Rather they tweak existing assassins to make them all viable.

I'm sad that my Eversor never gets to RIP AND TEAR

>>50334745
yes, but not a military vehicle.

So only GSC get it

>>50334694
Still waiting to see a BatRep of this formation in action.

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>>50334656
Ryza's sexy

>>50334806
if you really want it badly, i guess a count as taurox would be okay, as both have TL-autocannon and are cheap transports

>>50334656

Xana is pretty good.

>>50334847
aren't they a formation or at least a group that costs like a thousand points? no one is crazy enough to field a unit that dies to a vindicator shot at once

>Ahirman
>2 boxes of Rubrics
>2 sets of Dice
Think that's all i need desu until we know how good/bad the rest are

>>50334847
Have them face that Eldar formation with an avatar and all the phoenix lords.

>>50334878
Yeah, but he would have to convert everything to be more Chaosy at this point, Xana II became a Hellforge. They still look normalish in 30k, but at this point they are seriously fucked up.

>>50334905
>thousand points

1494 points to be exact, yes.

BUT they can be split up between your entire army, give each unit containing one of the Stubborn and can give supporting fire to every unit containing another member of the group. You could probably reasonably run them in a 4+k Apocalypse game.

Will the new Chaos supplement make the Crimson Slaughter box units great again?

>>50334847
I'd build it but Shadowsun is my favourite thing about the Tau and she's not exactly whatsapping Torchstar between battles.

It looks like a fun formation though.

>>50334973
Nothing could make those Chosen good. The Dark Vengeance box set was never good. A melee foot Lord, random melee Chosen, auto gun cultists, Helbrutes. All of those are shit and have been shit since the codex released.

>>50335021
autogun cultists are sorta okay, a bit expensive but okay
helbrute is fun with that cultist ablative wound formation, and not that bad if you deep strike a couple. (The latter would be good if there would be a reliable deepstrike aid)
I agree with the rest, except for mr Chosen with 2 lightningclaws. This model deserves a special place. You pay 15pts PER LC. so the first gives you shred and AP3 and the second only +1 A making it a incredibly bad choice to pick two.

>>50334847
If i ever balls up and get my shit together, and back into the hobby i would so run this, effective or not.

>>50335091
>auto gun cultists are okay
>59 points for an IG Infantry Squad with no orders, no grenades, no armor
>okay

>>50334378
Is this a thing? Do people actually think of points as weapons and shit?

I've got my Genestealer Cults primed in black and I want to use Valhallan Blizzard for the bases. What's a good colour scheme for the dudemen?

>>50333592
>use ml6 to get invisibility
>you now have a 2++ rerolling 1's model that can only be snap fired at
boy playing against him is gonna grow old real fast
at least it will probably mean psychic powers will be fixed in 8th as magnus will showcase how broken some of them are

>>50335214
It's because dakka is not allowed to mention point values or stats in numbers or GW crawls up their ass.

>>50335274
>implying you'll play against him
Yeah, technically he's got rules and points and can be taken in a regular army. But just like with Nagash I can smell a shitty game a mile off, and would rather not waste my time with one.

>>50335172
compared to chaos marine squads they're not so bad

>>50335118
i run seeker chariots so it's possible it's not so bad

>>50333325
Where are you finding all these painting programs, please?

>>50335337
Bolter and chainsword

>>50335322
Even if it was bad i'd do it. I grew up watching shittons of mecha shit and have been a fan ever since, once i get more disposable income im so starting a tau suit/farsight list.

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Hey folks

How do Bangles work? Their specifics is Furious Charge, Death Company, and their psychic abilities. (Not mentioning their HQ's and vehicles)

What is good to field here? An Army that tries to close in, a lot of drops and transports? In what way is the Death Company good?

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>>50333325
I'd use an off-white like this.

>space hulk going on sale again
oh shit

>tfw can't have a properly synergistic AdMech/Skitarii force below 1500 points

Fuck you, Games Workshop.

>>50335421
>How do Bangles work?
Poorly

Sup /tg/, what is the best army to play against and to have a fun time in general ?
Winning isnt important, fun is.
Is it orks ? Everyone i know loves to play with or against orks and even try hards arent as mad as usual when they loose to orks......

>>50335421
what is that picture supposed to be?

>>50335453
Punching bags are always fun. So orks are a good bet.

Posted 21/11/2016

Space Hulk Returns for the Holidays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVugNiqd10

>>50335479
A Girl, you probably Never saw One

>>50335536
I know that this is a girl, but what has this to do in this thread.
Is it maybe just attention seeking?

>>50333680
rubric marines before were 60$+ thanks to the sprues and shit

Dominus Maniple + Cohort Cybernetica for 1000 pts

Am I barking up the wrong tree? It seems like a good way to get a Dominus + Kastelans that will smash the fuck out of almost anything while having some Skitarii to cap points/support and the Onager for fire support.

Or is this just too few models? It's really tight I know.

>>50334003
i love it
i want trees now

>>50335587
More. Since you had to get multiple upgrade sprues to get a full 10 man, and then you'd have leftover upgrades.

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>>50335611
>trees
Just get an Aegis Defense Line.

>>50335659
i already have one, but it doesnt provide oxygen for my troops

>>50335285
But wouldn't having the rules out ahead of time, including point value, be a net positive for GW? You'd have a passionate community that can playtest and provide feedback about their games with far more variables than you would find in-house. You could amend costs, edit values before you go to final print. It'd make the game better, generate hype for new models, and lead to better balance.

>>50335611
>>50334003
keep in mind you can only bring 1 per cad

>>50335659
For tau the Tidewall is superior to the aegis line in pretty much every way.

>>50335748
hahahaha acting like GW cares about the game and doesnt see how as a vehicle to sell more models.

So what are your rules for building a good list?

I haven't played since mid 4th ed and I have no idea what I'm doing

Owner of my LGS is butthurt I'm planning to order my 1kS stuff from an internet stockist who offers a 22% discount after the LGS dropped their discount from 20% to 10%.

C'est la vie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>50335845
why would you tell your flg owner that

>>50335421
I'd hit that.
I'd that HARD.

>>50335862

He asked if I wanted to reserve it, and I politely declined and then he kept asking why not. (knowing full well I was planning to buy it prior to the discount cut)

>>50335845
Just don't come whining to us if he cuts down on 40k nights for more MtG on the basis that's where his money comes from.

>>50334535
RnHs has some Hilarious army builds, I personally enjoy fielding 10 wyverns and a bunch of ordinance gun emplacements against people I hate as they watch every squad of infantry get blown out of their transport and then evaporate under wyvern pieplates

>know literally nothing about Magus's rules
>people already whining and saying they won't play against him

Alright, so I have decided against my better judgement to start playing this game. After reading tons of fluff for the world, I've decided to play Tyranids. Even if they have been needed into the ground, they look awesome, and their horde strategies really fit my play style in game such as Starcraft. So, how should I start? I've bought 10 Termagants, just so I have something for the army shelf, but what else should I get? And, more importantly, how do I get models without paying my life savings?

LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
>LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
>LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
>LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
>LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN
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>LION CONFIRMED LEADING THE FALLEN

>>50335797
Give every unit a role, include 1 AT per 500 points, Fast Attack win fights but troops win games

>>50335927
source?

>>50335927
???

>>50335926
Ebay is your friend for hordes.

Does anyone know an interesting colour scheme for genestealer cults that incorporates bright red?

Im trying to think of one but drawing a blank.

>>50334804
I feel you anon, my finely painted metal eversor just sits on a shelf in a state of constant rage

>>50335963
Bright red together with black and orange sounds cool in my mind

>>50335926

>what else should I get?

More Gants. Seriously. More of them. You can never have too many.

>how do I get models without paying my life savings?

Oh my sweet summer child.

>>50335845
if you play there, you should spend a good part of your money there. THink of the difference between cheap on web and instore as a fee for tables, room, heating etc.

>>50335926
Ebay tends to help a lot for not sacrificing an arm and leg for this game. I personally recommend picking up the tyranid swarm as it gives a lot of things for a decent price.

>>50335926
Don't start the fucking HOBBY. HOBBIES COST MONEY. HOBBIES ARE NOT MANDATORY.

DON'T LIKE IT? DON'T PAY IT.

>>50335927
Lion is the returning Primarch btw.

>>50335983
Giants?

You mean Monstrous creatures?

Guys with all these primarchs coming back does that mean sanguinus will come back at some point?

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http://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-fandom-fascism/

FUCKING LEAVE US ALONE MARY SUE. FUCK OFF. FUCK OFF. FUCK OFF.

>>50335977
That actually sounds like a pretty good idea anon. Thanks!

>>50336031
>Will Space Jesus return from the dead, guys?

OH GEE. I DON'T KNOW ANON. DOES JESUS RETURN FROM THE DEAD AT ANY POINT?

>>50336029
Gants. Horma/Termagants.

>>50336033
Shut up, dumb frog poster. Nobody actually gives a fuck.

>>50336031
Hawk boy is gone
Unless there's some fuckery with the Sanguinor and Dante

>>50336051
>nobody gives a fuck

objectively wrong, but nice ad hom and non-arguments, I guess?

>>50335927
Proofs?

>>50335938
>>50335949
next year's 2 books narrative campaign will have the dark angels and their successors preparing the greatest hunt ever as the dark prophet has escaped the rock (I'm assuming this will be the last trick the already infiltrated changeling will pull off in wrath of magnus); the second book instead will have the rules for the fallen who have gathered to the call of a madman on a daemonic planet full of jungles and monsters

incidentally this last book will have the rules for the lion

>>50336051
>Nobody actually gives a fuck.

I do. What now?

>>50336055
They do the saiyan fusion dance at some point and become sanguinus's living form.

>>50335421
>posting a girl so that your post gets attention on /tg/

Not even mentioning how pathetic that is don't you realize you have a lot more eyes on your post if it's something sexy in plastic?

Most people here have given up on girls long ago in exchange for plastic power

>>50336051
>he doesn't know about UltraRee anon

protip, he does this as hyperbolic reaction to stupid things, lurk moar newfag.

>>50336079
>Most people here have given up on girls long ago in exchange for plastic power

You underestimate my power.

>>50335986

I consider the fee I pay for the tables as the fee for tables.

Besides I still buy all my paints, brushes, drinks and everything

>>50336067
and how do you know that ?

>>50334003
Just a reminder that Yesterday we were all assured that nobody gave a shit about this book.

>>50336067
So the source is your ass? Got it

>>50336067
Eddie lad you're going to get in trouble again

>>50336100
It's a new shitposting meme. To make up loads of shit and claim it's happening.

Did you know that Slaanesh is getting killed off by Ynead and some Shadow God replaces him in the pantheon?

What? That's the same meme rumour of AoS but with 40k names?

S-S-HUT UP!

I stopped playing at the end of 5th.

So 1k is a level people actually build for now? That's rad. That's cool enough to potentially get me to come back.

>>50336148
>Did you know that Slaanesh is getting killed off by Ynead and some Shadow God replaces him in the pantheon?

You mean the Horned Rat, and the introduction of Skaven in Space.

>>50335623
oh jesus

Hey guys, I'm from Nottingham HQ.

Just a heads up for you.

Death Guard, Khorne Berserkers and 1k Sons (we've seen this) are getting new books and models.

However, Slaanesh is getting removed in a Eldar 'story'. Eldar God will fight Slaanesh and keep him occupied, at which point the other 3 Gods will turn on him and kill Slaanesh. The Death Guard, KB and 1k Sons will turn on the Emperor's Children and kill them off. All the other Slaaneshi groups will also die.

The 'essence' of Slaanesh forms with another as of yet unknown Warp Power to create a 'shadow god' which is essentially Malal. It pretends to work with Chaos with the ultimate goal of turning on them and destroying them.

This links in with The Fallen of the Dark Angels. The Lion will 'side' with Chaos, when in fact, he isn't.

>>50336033

thanks /pol/tards.

>>50336201
Horned Rat is actually competing with Nuffle.

>>50336201
No. I don't mean the Horned Rat. The meme is AoS has a 5th Chaos God in a Shadow God. Great Horned Rat is not being added.

However, you might actually be right with Skaven in Space. Since the Hrud ARE the Skaven in Space. They also use Shadow Powers.

>>50335797
>what haven't i played with lately?
>what new trick haven't i tried yet?
>what obscure relic haven't i tried yet?
>formation/decurion or CAD?

i also try to cover my bases like troops, fast units, psychics, anti tank, ranged support.

>>50336176
my last game was 1k daemons against harlequins, ended 15-13. i'm building my eldar for 1k since it gives a good range and enough models to have a dcent game

>>50336207
hey colleague, dont you remember what happend to the last guy who leaked stuff ?

>>50336238
Hrud are swamp things. Skaven in Space is called Adeptus Mechanicus and it's a dumb human faction, now.

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I can't find the source for this. I found it on a YouTube video somebody linked me.

>>50336252
>>50336207
Both of you in my office, now.

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>>50336252

>>50336257
The Hrud first appeared as a simple illustration of a 'Nocturnal Warrior of Hrud' in the diagram "other dangerous aliens", along with early versions of a Kroot warrior, Necron, Tarellian dog soldier and other minor species, in the 3rd Edition Rulebook.[4]

The Skaven are humanoid rat creatures from Games Workshop's fantasy counterpart game to 40k, Warhammer. Both races have a similar unkempt, crouched appearance, scavenger culture, and both are depicted as having rat-like tails; both utilize warp-plasma based technology, which appears archaic but is technologically superior to other, contemporary engineering - the Hrud rifle is a "fusil" while the Skaven rifle is a jezail (a musket) - and finally both seem to have similar social habits being described as living in warrens or similar underground tunnel systems.

It could be presumed that the Hrud were originally meant to be Warhammer 40,000 counterparts to the Skaven.

Gonna laugh my ass off if the Lion wakes up and saves fenris. Would be the perfect thing to hang over Russ's head.

>>50336283
I never read the 5 short stories about War on Fenris. I need to download them desu.

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>>50336264

>>50334141
Hahahah. No. SoB are getting an update in March.

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>>50336278
I know all of this.
Shit changes, though, and this is the Hrud right now.

That ain't no skaven.

So, are Nids and Orks ever getting a new dex or is GW gonna spend the next ten years pumping out new bullshit IP's?

>>50336332
Yeah but that's the LATEST picture of them and it's concept art.

Outside of that, the only information we have is that they're similar to Skaven (they have human slaves for example, underground shit like that).

So we're stuck with what we know until they change this shit.

>>50333264
Frateris Militia

>>50336357
>new bullshit IP's?

>>50336384
Just making up new shit so they can copyright it.

>>50336357
I'm going to start assuming people moaning about Nids or Orks are falseflaggers who want to make people hate Nids and Ork players.

There is NOWAY these people can be so fucking whiny. Especially since they're given lots of stuff.

Go look up Dark Eldar, SoB, GK and BA for example on Forge World and compare it to Orks and Nids.

>new bullshit IP's

What the flying fuck you on about? Do you know what IP means?

>>50336397
Such as? What is fucking new?

>>50336405
Nids and Orks need new codexes.

>>50336422

So do many other factions.

Blood Angels and Dark Eldar, for example, need updates far more.

>>50336442

Dark Eldar need more vehicles and some more elite infantry.

>>50336405
Forge World shinies don't matter to most players when your entire codex is shit.

>Blood Angels and Dark Eldar, for example, need updates far more.
Dark Eldar will fucking paste both orks and nids every day of the week.

>>50336442
Dark Eldar win enough as it is with all they're poison shit. They can wait.

Is Fire Warrior novel good, mediocre or bad. Can someone give me an opinion about it?

>>50336442
>Blood Angels

They just got an update.

>>50336471
it was mediocre when it came out

in comparison to pretty much every piece of tau fluff afterwards? It's pretty good.

>>50336482

EVERY blood angle player seems to forget that, its actually pretty hilarious this is the third person I've caught asking for a blood angels update this month

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>>50336148
>Did you know that Slaanesh is getting killed off by Ynead and some Shadow God replaces him in the pantheon?
Remember guys, it's not happening until the sky has already hit you.

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>>50336471
my edge 15 year old self liked it but i didn't know a lick about 40k then and only like the conan tribute on the cover

it's a bit dated and from that weird time when tau were just getting developed in 4th. it was alright

>>50336369
We got dead hrud in the nebulously canon Xenology.

AdMech is Space Skaven. They got jezzails, man. They got the fucking jezzails. They got half-cyborg genetic monstrosities, they got skitarii with the same fucking poses as the skaven assassins.

Are there any Soviet-themed Space Marine chapters, or will I have to create my own?

>>50336264
good luck kevin, i am behind 7 proxis, not even your Alpha Kevin powers can get behind them.
please dont kill me

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Looking to build up a full masque for my harlies and would like some advice from anyone who's played it;
are haywire skyweavers worth it in a mono-harlequin list?

Is it worth going for Cegorach's jest or a different combo of elites?

Are starweavers needed for every troupe? Was thinking of having one larger troupe to utilize
Inriam's spectre's shrouded a bit better and to just have a bit more bulk on the board

Can post my idea for a 1750pt list of it if anyone would like

>>50336207
>Malal

You were doing so well until that point.

>>50336601
Reread what I said. I said ESSENTIALLY Malal. Not Malal.

>>50334289
Ebay my friend

Got 200 guardsmen for less $1 a piece. They were prebuilt, but buy a bits lot and start to have some fun after you simply green them.

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>>50336638
Malice, then?

Plz, the Sons of Malice being relevant would be amazing.

Also new Knight soon.
http://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/21/new-forge-world-knight/

>>50336681
People forget Malice's name so I used Malal as the easily recognisable anti-chaos chaos god.

And that Knight was known about months ago. It's also incredibly good.

I like being sneaky. Would a force built around Shadowsun, Ghost-Keels and Stealth-suits do well?

>>50336681
>make a titan
>call it a knight

>>50333776
Spyro?

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FUN

So I'm painting a Dangles list r/n, some allies but that's not important.

Main question, would it be frowned upon if I made about half the Dangles portion to be Disciples of Caliban? They look fucking gangster and unlike generic Space Marines, they don't have the issue of chapter tactics.

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>>50336702
BUT WILL IT ACTUALLY BE MALICE!?

>>50336442

Deldar have elder allies

>>50336773
doubt it.
normally its, your models, your money your paintscheme.
some people take issues if you switch codices, so obvious BAngels models as vanilla SM or similar.