Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1178: Blow up the Moon (Again) Edition

>>50245346
What's Static Shock

>>50248052
One of, if not the only, good TV shows that had a black superhero.

>>50248052
A character who originated in Milestorm but was adopted by DC after that company closed. Pretty fun character, black science nerd teenager who gets electricity powers and fights crime with weird electromagnetism tricks. There was a pretty good cartoon of it as part of the DCAU, though something I didn't like so much was that they handed over a lot of the science to an OC character, Richie, who was brought in to be a sidekick to Static. Come on, Virgil's damn smart, let him make his stupid electromagnetic hover-disk on his own.

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Whatever happened to the person who claimed Mirai Nikki?

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>>50248057

>>50248132
I withdraw the only statement.

>>50248127
Probably killed in some bizarro survival game by a girl with pink hair.

Post your Stands, my dudes.

>>50248185
I don't have one.

So we're getting the magic DC jumps now. Any chance we'll get something like that for Marvel?

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>>50248057

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>>50248057
No.

>>50248254
Does Marvel have notable a notable magic series? DC kinda lucked out between The Books of Magic, Constantine and Sandman but I don't recall a single notable Marvel magic user other than Dr. Strange, and the few comics I remember him in had him as basically a guest star

>>50248185
http://pastebin.com/tRPWU9DP

Well I had no idea we were getting a MiB jump.

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>>50248346

>>50248074
Didn't it actually crossover with the main DCAU one time? I remember that one bad future where that guy one, there was an old Static Shock. Also apparently Batman got Wondy preggers somehow.

It was one of those "the future is collapsing because people did things to the time stream" plots, I think

>>50248127
Wait, someone was doing Mirai Nikki?

I'm WAY out of touch. What new jumps (other than Infernals) are coming out?

>>50248185
Still trying to hash out the details, but I really want some kind of memetic thing where, after people see a symbol created by the stand, said symbol now exists in their head and I can affect them through it somehow.

Maybe something like a remote stand where the stand can manifest and attack them every time they remember what it looks like?

>>50248346
>Does Marvel have notable a notable magic series?
Not in the same way DC does, no.

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>>50248057
I heard you were talkin' shit, m8.

>>50248346
Strange had his own series for a long time. You could probably do something with Thor and all the things related to him. Ghost Rider has a lot of history.

But I think Marvel would be better off with some kind of "cosmic" jump. Dealing with GotG and all the stuff they have going on in space like the Kree empire, the Skrulls, Thanos, Beta Ray Bill, etc. The main jump doesn't touch on that at all and it's as big of a part of Marvel as the magic side is of DC.

>>50248404
Ah, Storm. Y'know, I usually don't really get the whole lusting after comics grade superheroines thing, the art style always makes them seem unapproachable. But with Storm I totally get it.

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>>50248057
Anon.

Anon.

Anon.

Your social justice indoctrination is showing.

>>50248445
>social justice
What are some jumps where /pol/ was right?

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>>50248057
I like Avengers Assemble

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>>50248057
Huh?

>>50248461
Generic Creepypasta?

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>>50248057
>Im-fucking-plying

>>50248497
As great as this is, it doesn't count if they only show up for one episode.

>>50248461
Worm

>>50248508
Already been done.

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>>50248057
>Static Shock
>good
Bitch, please. There are tons of better IPs out there.

>pic related
The animated show was good, but the comic was goat.

>>50248510
Vixen was in way more than one episode. She was a mainstay during season 2 of JL in the DCAU and has been in a couple of the movies.

>>50248074
Actually Richie is a character composite of two of Static's comic companions. They gave him the the SCIENCE! part because you always need a sidekick. He even became his own super hero, becoming a kind of Ironman Knockoff.

Also Static uses trashcan lids & man hole covers a lot. That's before Richie & him invented a collapsible disk.

>>50248512
>humanity wins by being forced to set aside their differences and individual interests and come together as a species
>/pol/
Pick one and only one.

>>50248366
>Wait, someone was doing Mirai Nikki?
Yes, someone claimed it in June and hasn't posted since.

>>50248577
If you mean mind fucked/brainwashed into it sure yeah that doesn't tie into any conspiracy theory at all.

>>50248594
Yeah, but the conspiracies are the good guys. They do terrible things but ultimately have our best interests at heart, and us struggling against them keeps fucking us over.

>>50248497
Fun fact. There's a season 2 of Vixen animated series. Then there's a Vixen in JSA/Legends Of Tomorrow who I think is the grandmother of the Vixen in the animated TV series/cameo Arrow appearance.

>>50248615
Good guys who completely fail. The people who eventually save the day aren't part of the conspiracy. The conspiracies do terrible things in the interest of good but completely fail to save the day.

>>50248615
Not always true. There are plenty of conspiracy where the actual participants are bad news.
SEELE from Evangelion comes to mind.

>>50248643
Aside from making sure that Scion went nuclear at just the right time and setting things up so that Taylor would get jailbroken into Khepri?

>>50248577
I meant more the racially diverse secret globalist conspiracies fucking everything up, leaving whites to save the world.

>>50248672
Yeah, no. Not going to credit someone for something that they didn't intend at all, had no idea would happen and was mostly the result of the countless other actors in the story screwing with their plans knowingly or not.

>>50248689
That's how Path to Victory works. Make a hypothetical version of Scion, walk the path to beating him. Khepri's the Path's end result, not an accident.

>>50248501
That's were /x/ was right though

>>50248672
>>50248643
>>50248615
Better question: How many /pol/ conspiracy theories involve a giant alien galactic mass dimensionally folded crystal super-automaton created by a space whale?

Because I've never been to /pol/, but I'd be very surprised if anything from there maps on to Worm. I mean Kaiser-and eventually the rest of his faction-dies or gets played for suckas by better villains.

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>>50248650
He was referring to pic related from Worm. There's actually another half dozen conspiracies, many of whom are pretty goddamn bad, from the same story.

>>50248700
You're exaggerating how good the hypothetical version is. They did influence the story towards it's final conclusion but they have nowhere near the impact your attributing to them. If they really did have what you claim they do, why did Cauldron do all the ultimately unnecessary awful shit they did over the series when they knew exactly what they'd need, since apparently there was no need to plan just in case?

>>50248700
Why didn't they just have Contessa force Panacea into jailbreaking Taylor at the start to get it over with if they were aiming for that all along? Why did they wait until billions had died from Scion's rampage years later?

>>50248700
>Implying it wasn't a smurf plot

There was literally a segment where she was pretty explicitly brainwashed.

>>50248718
Because Khepri alone is worthless. She needed an army of Capes, Cauldron and natural.

>>50248701

>>50248686

>>50248755
Except no, she only needed specific sorts of capes. If Contessa's hypothetical mode is as perfect as you say, she shouldn't have had any problems with getting the perfect shard formulas from Eden's corpse, meaning they should have been able to get all the perfectly suited powers they needed. But they didn't. They had to do a constant trail and error and just try and make as many good capes as they could. They didn't focus towards tinkers either, despite them ultimately being the most important capes type.

Unless you're going to argue every last Case 53 was somehow integral to the final battle.

>>50248732
They needed him to be in Golden Morning Mode so they could wave his dead waifu at him and break his heart. His emotional state only started advancing once he went into blow shit up mode.

>>50248812
They might have been. Not in the sense that they helped deal the killing blow, but in the sense that their existence got the ducks in the row for the final battle. It's hard to tell when you're dealing with someone who's superpower is "I do the thing that makes me win, whatever it is."

>>50248886
But they could easily push him into Golden Morning themselves. They've got Contessa, your version for her at least, who's powers are apparently working full force. Why wait? More parahumans are alive pre Golden Morning, certainly more stronger ones and all the ones that were vital in the final battle too. How much easier would it have been if Khepri could abuse Echidna to mass make Eidolons and Alexandrias?

>>50248886
That's neat anon. Dodge the rest of the post. Problem with even your limited answer is what the other anon pointed out. The final battle could have been done much sooner and much better, not needing all this roundabout getting ducks in a row. Everyone important is alive at the start and if Contessa really is working at full power on Scion, they're good to go.

>>50248886
Dude, come on. You're stretching really damn far to justify Cauldron having it all just as planned.

>>50248911
>>50248928
You assume it could have gone better if things had been lined up differently. But we're dealing with a precognitive superpower that finds the winning combination of actions. You assume that means she fucked up; I assume they wouldn't have won with a different combination of actions. Why? Fuck if I know. When I gain a precognitive superpower I'll let you know.

>>50248986
Except the contention here is that you're assuming her power is working properly, despite us being told it doesn't work on certain beings and that she has to wing it a lot. Nothing at all indicates that her hypothetical scenarios are like her actual full strength power and we have plenty of indications that it is not. When ever you're given evidence or have pointed out to you why this doesn't make sense, you do the equivalent of putting your hands on your ears and yelling blah blah blah.

>>50248986
Man, when you sink to this level, you might as well just concede the argument. 95% of your argument is "Well maybe it's this, despite having basically nothing to support it". It's a lot more logical to assume that Contessa's power and how it relates to Scion isn't very good and that she knows it. It explains the story much better (And the story quality itself is much better) then if the entire thing was a gigantic rube goldberg plot.

Okay, I get it: Worm is saltier than the Dead Sea at low tide.

Other than giving people Stands, any ideas for fun things to do with the jawbreakers from /co/co/?

Also with all the recent talk about DC Mystic stuff, what sort of things and people are there that stand apart from regular flavor DC?

>>50249094
Well, there's Constantine. And this is probably the closest thing we'll ever get to a good Hellblazer jump.

>>50249094
Use 'em to power and uplift robots.

Apparently they work as a surrogate soul. Who'd a thunk it?

>>50249107
Hey now-I recall Hellblazer's pretty much the only exception to a jump that's open for being replaced. It's only on the drive as a placeholder because someone overlooked it while it was uploaded with the rest.

>>50249138
I really wish /co/co/ lore was better consolidated somewhere, though I get that it's being hashed out so much everything probably gets mildly changed around every few threads

>>50249094
Most of the Vertigo titles - Swamp Thing, Sandman, Books of Magic, and Hellblazer. I honestly wish they'd do a Vertigo Jump instead, but you get what you pay for.

>>50248535
I didn't see the comic, I seen show and I would kill for W.I.T.C.H jump

>>50249283
I mean, it pretty much is, isn't it? Even back when Vertigo was a thing, its characters existed on the fringe of DC.

>>50249460
Probably not.

The guy hasn't read Sandman, I doubt he's read the Books of Magic.

>>50248755
Speaking of Worm.

How do you defeat Gray Boy?

>>50249404
If you liked the show you'd love love love the comic. It runs longer and really explores the world and characters. Some of later arcs are crazy.

If you poke around you can find the comic online.

>>50249460
There's non-mystic Vertigo, though. Animal Man, Doom Patrol, and Shade all fit into the pseudo-DC Vertigo universe without being what I'd call mystic.

>>50249094
Make them into slimes via that slime rancher jump after running them through the plum juggler+give it a boost method a few dozen times. Nothing bad will happen, probably.

>>50249517
Balefire's the easiest way. The hard part is helping his victims without killing them.

Alright everyone is shitting their pants over Scion, but what about Glaistig? She arguably is more powerful than him

>>50249475
Did you see the WIP he posted before? There was an entire perk line based on Constantine, perks that reference Books of Magic, and a capstone that made you an avatar of the Red/Green/Blue/Gray.

>>50249545
Anything that can kill Golden Boy can kill Fairy Girl. She has fewer powers, limits on how many she can use at once, and she's a human instead of a continent-sized abomination hiding in a pocket dimension and making us fight his fingertip.

>>50249551
No I didn't. That is odd.

>>50249517
Immunity to temporal effects, or being really fast and really, really good at dodging.

Probably a "things you kill stay dead" perk too, because his shard will reset him back to an earlier point if you do manage to kill him, and just flat out teleports him somewhere else if he gets stuck. He was only killed in-universe via exploits in powers. One of those things that keeps getting repeated, and may or may not actually be true, is that GU killed him by absorbing his shard in the brief period between him dying and coming back to life. Flechette just killed his clone with Sting, because that no-sells everything in the setting.

>>50249591
The Worm Wiki is a piece of shit for trying to understand the characters or events

>>50249545
She's got a lot of issues, anyone with enough social-fu perks, and drop-in gets a good one as a capstone, can probably just talk her down.

>>50249475
The original miniseries or the multiple meh follow-up series? I've read the original multiple times and have read substantial chunks of the other.

And I have read /some/ Sandman and sizable amounts of Hellblazer.

Not much Lucifer or Swamp Thing, though. And I have basically never seen Doom Patrol and very little Animal Man.

Fate extra will let you pick any canon master as your own, right? List a few goodish female masters I could take. Also, I'm more concerned with personality than raw power.

>>50249545
>Fairly early Jumper takes the Passenger drawback
>Your host meets Faerie Queen
>Her shard sight shows her, instead of the crazy eldritch shit she normally sees, an apparently normal person
>Jumper notices her and waves
>Glaistig: What the fuck?

>>50249649
Google is a thing that exists.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fate+extra+masters

>>50249649
>Not importing your servant from the first Fate jump as your master

>>50249649
Run Ru's pretty great.

Seriously though, Alice and Jinako Carigiri a best.

>>50249666
That's pretty much what I did.

>>50249659
I'm smoewhat familiar with zero and stay night, but none of the masters there appeal to me very much. Maybe prism illya, but I don't think she qualifies. I was hoping for someone would recommend someone i wasn't familiar with.

>>50249666
Haven't been there. Well, honestly I'm only doing this mini-chain for the hell of it, so I suppose I could just embed it in my normal one somewhere and use one of my companions.

>>50249638
>>50249475
Completely forgot the point of my post. I meant to ask if there was anything in particular you'd like to see in the jump? There's a lot of stuff to work with.

>>50249545
Are you dumb?

>>50249768
It's a generic for a reason. It doesn't need to include a large amount of material from each of those properties. It'll just become too bloated. Better leaving those to their own jumps.

Genealogy Of The Holy War
FE minichain #1
Location - Manster District - Free
Gender/Age - Not mentioned, female - Free
Noble Blood - 100 (900)
Bargin - 100 (800)
Major Naga Blood - 600 (200)
Minor Naga Blood? - Free
Charm - 100 (100)
Family Connections - 150 (-50)
Vengance - 200 (-250)
Theme Song - Free
Lots of GP - 50 (-300)
Sol Sword - 50 (-350)
Luna Sword - 50 (-400)
Loptyr's Ire - +400 (0)

The only way this build could be better would be if I could buy a Nosferatu, or a skill version of Sol. I mean, seriously. I've got Sol and Vengance both. The more damage I take, the more damage I do. The more damage I do, the faster I heal. It's beautiful.

Also, Nihil would be amazing, especially given Lunatic+ in awakening. Fuck your dragonskin+. Might redo this later to include a child, and have them pick it up.

NikaMoth, Digger, can I convince you to alter the companion import option slight? One for 50, two for 100, and so forth until eight? Paying 300 cp to buy a single companion is not fun.

Lastly, what's the difference between a Major Blood and a Minor Blood, and is my build invalid for picking both from the same source?

Anyone able to answer my question here? >>50234895

>>50250158
Blue.

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>>50249768
The Mask? It's technically canon in DC, and it's technically magic.

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>>50248346
People seem to forget it, but DOOM is also a Sorcerer as well as a Scientist.

>>50249666
I'm on to you Satan

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>>50249768
This is for a Mystic DC jump right?
I'd kill for a way that makes it easier to contact Death, who is mai waifu from Regular DC.
I could get two Deaths! Twins they were!
That's three anthropomorphic incarnations of the concept of Death total!

>>50246260
I must admit that I thought of doing that, but ultimately decided against it because I thought it would be tacky.

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Cultist
400 cp - Come Forth
The beings inside the Mythos are great and powerful, yes, but they have their flaws. Sort of. The more powerful of these creatures can be bargained with, though you often will find the costs not to your liking. Thanks to tireless research into the Mythos, you have developed a summoning method for each and every member of the Mythos. Yes, that includes Yog-Soggoth, though I recommend not - nay, NEVER - testing that one. Of course, insanity inducing gods being insanity inducing gods, using any of them may be a bad plan. Which is why you also get the skill necessary to make your own summoning rituals for other bings, outside the Mythos.

Cthulhu
600 cp - Mythos Master
The monster Cthulhu is one of the Mythos’s mid tier powers, a great old one. There are a number equal to him, and a number stronger, but those are all individuals. Those lesser to him are entire races. Those members of the Cthulhu Mythos who are weaker than Cthulhu will no longer bother you - as one of their gods, they would lose a fight with you, and they know it. While there are still a large number of ‘ordinary’ monsters here, this will prevent a decent amount of them from ever attacking you. Of course, it doesn’t really work on those stronger than Cthulhu, and Azathoth is the final boss, so good luck.

>>50250113
Hm! I think I could fix that and make it so that you can buy a Nosferatu at character creation. Don't know why I didn't think about that before. I did initally feel the 300 CP companion cost was steep but I was unsure if I shoud change it.

The differences between Major and Minor blood is that Major Holy Blood people can weild the Holy Weapons--Minor Holy Blood people cannot. That's really the only difference. You still get the same boost to magic and resistance Naga blood gives you with Minor Holy Blood.

And your build is unfortunately invalid since it's pointless to buy major and minor holy blood of the same bloodline since the benefits don't stack.

I should word the perk better, in this light.

>>50249591
I call bullshit on that spoiler.
Gray Boy had already been killed once, by GU herself IIRC. And she didn't have Sting at the time.

>>50250834
Hot damn, those are pretty cool.

Though what does Mythos Master do post-jump?

>>50250851
Actually, Nosferatu is basically a dark magic version of the Sol sword, so it's... not irrelevant, but not necessary.

The Sol skill, on the other hand, I would love. Healing 100% of the damage dealt would be amazing. But I digress.

Just out of curiosity, why is major blood discounted to drop in's? It seems like that would be a noble thing, given that minor blood is their free perk.

Ah, then I'll change it to a swordy one to go with my Sol sword.

>>50250113
But overall, I think this is a good build, save for that one mistake.

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>>50250834
>being able to summon entities like Azathoth or Yog-Soggoth at any time
>being able to beat up a fair amount of Lovecraftian gods at any time
So ignoring the complete bullshit of being able to summon Capital-G Gods or becoming close to them, why the fuck would anyone want to be anything other than cultist in your jump again?

>>50250670
True, but the question was is there a magical series in Marvel not are there magical characters in Marvel.

>>50250882

Major Blood is discounted for drop-ins because I made the drop-in skillset in mind with magic weapons and items. Major Holy Blood allows you to use the Holy Weapons, which is what those jumpers are going to want. I did consider switching the Master Knight/Baron perk and the Major Holy Blood perk but I decided against it.

Granted I didn't want to make the jump just a huge powergrab, which is why they cost so much in the first place.

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What a sly dog~ He's got you Wormposting again.

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>>50250874
Same thing. Makes things lower on the hierarchy than cthulhu reluctant to attack you, and lets you have afternoon tea with alternate versions of cthulhu.

>>50250927
What happened to the villains when the superheroes were forced into retirement?

Did they just... stop committing crimes?

>>50250926
That makes sense.

How difficult will it be to get the Book of Naga in setting, given that I am not a drop in?

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Last Time on Restarted Chain
War is hell, except when it's a harem anime. Hitler received many blows to the nuts.
This time!
Hey Yoro. Yoro. Yoro. YOOOOORRRROOOOOOOOOO!

Jump 12: Archer

Wakana: This place looks surprisingly normal.
Jumper: It is, for the most part. The technology can get a little advanced but it's mostly a normal world.
Raven: Nice change of pace for once.
J: Well, not totally. We're going to be starting up a spy and intelligence agency.
R: Aaaaaand there's the other boot.
Lina: I seem to remember a certain purple haired cutie wading into the battlefield and gleefully punching half a dozen AFWs into scrap just a few years ago.
J: It's a game we play Lina. Raven likes to pretend she's the voice of reason. We had a wager going in the beginning. She bet she could keep my baser tendencies from corrupting her and I bet I could get her to loosen up and enjoy life. So far, I've been winning.
L: Such an interesting contest. Are you accepting new players?
R: That's quite enough of that out of both of you.
Yamato: Awww... it was just getting good.

Identity: Drop-In (Free), Age 31

Perks:
+ Phrasing (Free)
+ Cultural References (Free)
+ Linguist (100, 900)
+ Engineering (200, 700)
+ Sploosh (300, 400)

R: Really?
J: Don't judge me.
R: Ooooh, I'm judging you.
J: You say that now, but wait until you find out what I just learned.
Y: Phrasing!
W: Not quite dear.

Items:
+ Cyborg Friend (400, 0)
J: Okay, so I can only pick one of you to fill this role and there's nothing else being handed out here. So we're going to have to come up with a fair way of deciding who gets it.
L: I'll do that thing you like with my tongue.
J: We have a winner.
R: You could at least let the rest of us bid.
W: I suspect that's not the only reason he's letting her have it.
Y: ....
W: Yes, now dear.
Y: PHRASING!
> "This is going to be so much fun to watch."

[1/2]

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>>50250890
>being able to summon entities like Azathoth or Yog-Soggoth at any time
Like you could already do in Lovecraft. And they're still likely to eat you?

>>50250928
>and lets you have afternoon tea with alternate versions of cthulhu.
Wait, really? I didn't get that out of the perk... would be amazing though.

>>50250937
That seems to be the implication, yeah. If you really want to fuck up the plot, it's basically as simple as being a supervillain who Gives No Fucks during the hero ban.

>>50250928
I always feel that that pic always does sum up how Lovecraft treated things. Expectially the part where you look at it and ask... Where are Humans?

>>50250945

Given how you're a noble with Major Blood and you took the "Family Connections" perk, you should have a fair bit of political clout. iirc, Prince Kurth and King Azmur weren't fighty type people so I think that if you could BS a reason like saying
that you need to help Grandbell in the coming war and the King and Prince need to do their royal duties, why not have you fight in their steed instead?

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>>50250984
Story Time!
There's honestly not a ton to talk about here, but I'll still give a short run through of the major events.

= Companions head off to form VALKYRIE, a competing spy agency literally right across the street from ISIS. I use my position as impromptu Intern to offer positions to the underpaid and underappreciated Drones, along with Ray, Pam, and Cyril. Mass exodus follows.

= Lana and Archer both try to apply as agents, but Major Lina turns them away at the door. By my request. Both head back to ISIS and cling to the sinking boats like rats without a life boat. Eventually Lana applies again and is accepted under the strict guidelines she does not contact Archer again and participates in the company mandated therapy.

= VALKYRIE does quite well for itself. Major Lina runs a tight, smooth ship and soon the missions are flowing. Ray, Raven, and I focus on the stealthy missions while Wakana, Yamato, and Pan get sent on the "louder" operations. The division works out very well and plays to everyone strengths.

= Literally zero thought is given to Archer or Malory, though I end up perpetuating a lot of running gags from the show.

= There's an intervention late in the Jump, as I apparently got /way/ too into the whole drugs, alcohol, and random handholding for everyone to be comfortable with. I agree to dial down like, five notches.

= It was a fun ten years. Very little in the way of details can be shared on this board, unfortunately.

Next time on Restarted Chain
Raven gets a chance to drive as she literally steals the wheel.

>>50251021
At it's core, the perk is basically getting street cred inside the Mythos.

The weak races will obey you (mostly), the mid races will respect you (mostly, with the exception of cthulhu who will actually like you), and the strong races might notice you enough to not destroy you accidentally.

>>50251047
They're the tiny pixel in the bottom left. Or maybe my screen is dirty.

...Although, I must note, that buying Fala and Naga blood can make the benefits stack and such a combination would be fairly powerful.

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>>50251100
>At it's core, the perk is basically getting street cred inside the Mythos.
>The weak races will obey you (mostly), the mid races will respect you (mostly, with the exception of cthulhu who will actually like you), and the strong races might notice you enough to not destroy you accidentally.
I.. would like to suggest that be spelled out a bit more? It really focusses on just the lesser races right now. And I need to be able to invite Cthulhu to my teaparties.

>>50251176
Because they both boost magic? Cool.

I'll add that in later.

Can I get a rough estimate for the price of a single companion import?

>>50250774
YJ_Anon, can Order Magic get more powerful with learning boosters?

>>50251215

100 CP, I feel that 50 CP is too cheap for a single companion when they get 600 CP worth of perks.

>>50251347
But you can buy up to eight companions for 300 CP still.

>>50251295
Sure.

>>50251408

update to fallout 4 when

>>50251474
Sometime before Christmas at the latest. I've been busy with other things lately, so I haven't had a lot of time to myself.

What's are the best uses for Misc. Meta? I'm thinking something like this:

Look up a perk you want to replicate but don't want to pay for or go to the jump that offers it, then make a clone of it with Rainmaker Kid or Misc Meta, pretty much. Using Misc Meta to replicate, say, the World Champion perk from Overlord (LN) means you don't pay an arm and a leg for it in Overlord itself saving you a lot of CP in a CP vampire jump, and it also means you don't have to go to Overlord if you don't want to.

Or you could recreate This Is, In Fact, My Final Form from SAO and free up 600 CP (who wants to be Kayaba's accomplice?), Device Meister from Nanoha, Incomprehensible from Young Justice, Copycat from Ranma 1/2, Sage of the Forest from Hero BBS, Savant from Pokémon, Jumper Empress of Jumper Eyes from Mushoku Tensei, any perk from a Gauntlet you really don't want to go to, or any capstone from Touhou. No need to go to those jumps, no need to spend CP on getting a perk you effectively already have if you do go, and if it's Misc Meta it'll even grow better over time.

Thoughts?

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>>50251510
2/10.

>>50251510
Stop quoting SB.

>>50251510
Hello SB copyposter.

>>50250669
I honestly don't know much about the Mask? Doesn't it make the wearer essentially invincible? Like, laugh off exploring planets with cartoon physics invincible?

>>50250714
Something that makes it easier to contact higher beings like the Endless may work.

>>50251532
>>50251536
Just because it's from SB doesn't mean it's invalid.

>>50249939
Yeah, that's why I was asking. I can't include everything from each specific property, so I was curious if there was anything in particular people were interested in.

>>50251578
Are you going to keep the Half-Blood Origin? I like the idea of being half fae.

>>50250774
>tacky

Dude, it would've been perfect then. Quite a few creepypastas get just tacky.

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>Reading the Hero BBS jump
>Like the Retired Hero perks and gear
>Retired Heroes finish their quest before the jump starts
>Don't want to just skip my quest
Halp.

>>50251630
>Quite a few creepypastas get just tacky.
Lewd.

>>50251510
>(who wants to be Kayaba's accomplice?)
I mean, in addition to the discounts, you also get an endgame raidboss-level power buff, and Kayaba's trust, which makes the betrayed look on his face as you see him being hauled away in handcuffs much more satisfying (granted, you may want an "above the law" perk to ensure you don't end up in handcuffs alongside him).

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Which jump has the best pressure point bullshit?

I know that Toriko has Knocking and Wuxia has pressure points, but what else?

>>50251606
Probably. That was mostly based on Tim, Raven, and Nu52 Wonder Woman. It'll lose the physical buffs but keep a lot of the other.

>>50251641
Maybe have an other Demon Lord appear suddenly?

>>50251641
Grab the drawback that means you get summoned all the time.

All the quests you could want.

>>50251666
A:TLA and Korra let you seal spiritual powers by doing so.

>>50251652
>above the law
I assume perks you buy in the jump would continue to work in the real world.

Final Form in a more advanced, but otherwise mundane, world would probably put you above the law.

>>50251641
Well, you basically get to fanwank the world you start it, to some variable degree of high fantasy.
Just say that you finished one quest and then a new one starts up because you didn't fucking do it right the first time.

It's like a videogame sequel, except you didn't lose all your shit from the last quest.

>>50251666
Did that middle panel actually happen somewhere or is it an edit.

Also jesus christ Peter your neck has a tumor on it. and your chest looks like it's gonna explode. and your head is far too small. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.

>>50251666
Ranma has some. I guess some Exalted stuff works on pressure point, or masquerades as such while actually being more Essence stuff. Journey to the West? Histories Strongest has Medical Martial Arts...

>>50251697
>Also jesus christ Peter your neck has a tumor on it. and your chest looks like it's gonna explode. and your head is far too small. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.
Spider-cancer.

Radioactive spider, remember?

>>50251578
How much does Princess Amaya factor into the plot of JLD? If it's enough for her to be represented there, nevermind, if it's not, then I'd like some of that Gemworld stuff.

Also, it was brought up when it was all one jump, but still: options for the Grey and the Black.

Uh... how about the Heart of Darkness? Or a more amicable and less schmuck-baity knockoff? Something like Cedella's Skull, but made from a willing wizard/voodoo master/insert other magical practitioner, to aid the Jumper in their studies? The Cloak of Cagliostro? The Manitou Stone?

>>50251510
Says in the notes, anon.
Street level stuff.
And Rainmaker is exclusively for non-combat oriented powers. Like super-digging. Or turning inorganic matter into a food goop that you can control the flavor, color, texture, and nutritional value of.

>>50251697
The panel bears an uncanny resemblance to Liefeld's infamous Captain America drawing, so there's a good chance it's real, just badly drawn.

The text is definitely an edit, however.

>>50251765
Don't feed the SB copyposter.

>>50250834
Seems might OP, buddy. Might want to rethink those.

>>50251778
Just trying to help on the off chance that it's an innocent retard.

Now that I think about it, that kid with the food goop power actually has a really badass power.
He could rob banks with that shit, just turn the walls into goop.
He could clear rubble after a disaster.
All sorts of shit.

A Jumper could use it in conjunction with 401(k) from HSotD to devour lifeless worlds.

>>50251765
>Street level stuff.
Is that even applicable, anon? Just get them at a lower intensity, and they'll get stronger by the rules of Misc. Meta.

>>50251792
>You can summon stuff that'll likely kill you for doing so.
>You have amazing reputation among eldritch beings.
I mean, they're really cool perks. But they don't seem OP too.

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>>50251822
The Food Goop Kid suggests "transmutation" is a valid power. If you get something like "transmute a ton of matter" from Misc. Meta, with enough time you could probably do something like pic-related.

>>50251913
Except we already have an FMA jump.
You're wasting points, but there's nothing wrong with that, I guess.

>>50251913
Wasn't Clover going to make a gauntlet of that? Whatever happened there?

>>50251938
We all went "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" at some of the perks and apparently he stopped working on it. We only have the WIP. http://pastebin.com/4H3anaZP

>>50251510
What's Misc Meta from

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>You have 10 seconds to come up with an idea for a shitty chain theme.

>>50251999
Snakes

>>50251999
All builds must be based off of 90s rap-rock songs.

>>50251999
On a plane

>>50251999
Policing the Multiverse for anomalies, Drawback Enemies who've gone rouge/Roberts Jumpers, for Jump-Chan.

>>50251999
Actual shit.

>>50251999
Social media jumper just jumps to make Vines and selfies.

>>50251999
Edgy anti-heroes

>>50251999
The Fourth Reich.

>>50252031
>drawback enemies that have gone rogue
So would Errai be the final boss? I mean, an anomaly hijacking control over an entire multiverse and gaining insane levels of power sounds like it would work as a final boss.

>>50251999
No perks, only items.

>>50252047
>Hero is undergoing a tortuous inner struggle over whether they should kill the villain
>Jumper standing in the background shouting "do it for the vine!"

>>50251938
As >>50251965 says, the thread's brigade of entitled power-wankers convinced him otherwise.

>>50251999
Robbie Rotten as a jumper-oh wait, you said shitty, my bad.

>>50251999
Starting in Suggsverse Jump and leaving it in disgust. Looking for a better world to live in.

>>50251999
Naked chain, no items only perks(no clothes or any other kind of item either good luck with no pokeballs for pokemon).

>>50251999
Jackass Jumper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_3VrHLuqG4

>>50251999
Kender Jumper.

>>50251999
You must take every jump. Yes, even those. Especially those.

>>50252081
>No Lazy Town jump
I didn't realize I wanted this.

>Drawback where Robbie Rotten interferes with any attempt to treat the jump as an excuse to train for 10 years

>>50252122
Tasslehoff Burrfoot with that Rod running amok?

>>50251999
Jumper can only talk like he's a TVTropes page / entry.

>>50251999
A video game developer looking for inspiration.

>>50250834
Looks good.

>>50251999
Emoji magic jumper

>>50251999
Trumper attempts to build a wall around the multiverse and make Jumpchan pay for it.

>>50251999
Michael Moore: The Legendary Journies

>>50252143
Pretty much. He can't buy items, only steal them. No invisibility powers or social perks. Must always take at least half the Drawback cap.

>>50252200
Is he also going to make anime real?

>>50252200
>>50252209
Pottery

>>50252080
From what I recall it wasn't wanting more power, that argument was on a back seat to the whining of "What makes your setting so special?" and the bitching on how all gauntlets are evil and should never be tolerated. So it got shat up and nobody's touched it since.

>>50252133
>drawback where Robbie Rotten's disguises always fool the Jumper and their companions, to the point of being able to disguise himself as an eldritch abomination if necessary.

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>>50252143
>>50252122
>>50252215
Let me give my response to this idea...

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>>50252226
>Robbie Rotten companion option
>Times four

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Can your Jumper defeat Sportacus?

>>50252226
> The eldritch mask is in fact a fake mustache he crinkled up and attached tentacles to out of construction paper.
> It still fools the jumper.
> And all their companions.
> Only one little pink haired girl sees through the ruse.

>>50252222
You could have prevented literally all the suffering that happened in this setting if you weren't arbitrarily nerfed, but "lolno kek. muh tone of setting!1!!"

>>50252269
Yeah, you. You're the reason. Your bitching right there. That's why we don't have an Uber jump. People like you.

>>50251759
I'm planning to include some Amethyst/Gemworld stuff in one of the jumps.

>Also, it was brought up when it was all one jump, but still: options for the Grey and the Black.
Yup.

>>50251999
chain where you accrue as many sound powers so that you can just scream at your enemies and they die instantly

>>50252226
>Robbie Rotten disguises himself as jumper
>"If that's me, then who am I?"

>>50251759
>>50252283
>Uh... how about the Heart of Darkness? Or a more amicable and less schmuck-baity knockoff? Something like Cedella's Skull, but made from a willing wizard/voodoo master/insert other magical practitioner, to aid the Jumper in their studies? The Cloak of Cagliostro? The Manitou Stone?
Well, it's not exactly the same thing, but...

Vestments of Fate/Freedom (??? CP): The Lords of Order and Chaos are powerful magical beings that were born at the dawn of time. For untold millenia, they have been locked in a metaphysical war, attempting to further the cause of Order or of Chaos. Primarily, this is accomplished by empowering mortal agents to act as proxies.

The strongest and most well-known example of this is Doctor Fate, the manifestation of Nabu, the greatest and most powerful of the Lords of Order, who channels his power through the Helm of Fate and those who it. But Nabu is far from the only Lord to empower his agents through artifacts and one such item has fallen into your possession.

You have some wearable object that contains the essence of a lesser Lord, whether of Chaos or Order. This item is bound to you, allowing you to summon it at-will, and when worn, grants you access to a large sum of magical power. You're no match for Doctor Fate at the peak of his power and your ultimate potential will vary greatly based on your own magical potential, but you will be able to call on spells that would leave most magicians in awe, even if you haven't an ounce of magical blood in your veins.

As well, when worn, the ghost of the — now long-dead — Lord will whisper in your mind, teaching you powerful magic and prompting you follow their agenda. You don't have to advance their cause, but they will be much more posts willing to teach you if you do so.
After this jump is over, you can silence the ghost or awaken it as you please.

>>50252282
To be fair, we would have never had an Uber jump. It would have been a gauntlet.

>>50252282
Why do you want an unlicensed taxi jump?

>>50252227
Don't expect me to write it. My side-chain queue is full at the moment.

It does seem like a fun chain to write for though.

>>50252282
Because no one likes fucking gauntlets. Part of the point of the chain is to maintain some form of continuity between settings. There's literally no diversity because the only way to tell a story in a gauntlet is by doing exactly what happened in canon. Or just dispense all the information about the enemy. Because anything else would be retarded.

What are some good perks for teleporting things from my warehouse?

>>50252352
That one in Kirby.

>>50252305
>but they will be much more posts willing to teach you if you do so.
Uh, should that 'posts' be there? Looks cool though.

>>50252305
First of all, that's awesome, if underwhelmingl nerfed. Second, how is anyone going to complete the Day of Vengeance Drawback with these kinds of power, assuming this is our high end gear? Or is that one of those, you need outside Jump powers flat out?

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>>50252283
>>50252305
Thank you.

>>50252352
Requip

>>50252347
And yet we have a SOMA gauntlet and a LLTQ gauntlet. We even have an Exalted: Mortal Hero gauntlet. So clearly there's not as much hate as you claim there is. Maybe it's just you, Timmy.

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>>50252301
> Jumper mistakes this for an Evil Clone Drawback.
> "Shit, we're not going to have to fight, are we? I'm pretty sure that would destroy the town."
> "Am I the fake or the real one?"
> "Okay, tell you what, how about, whoever's the real jumper can just keep moving on in the chain, and the fake gets to control lazytown."
> Jumper inadvertantly teams up with Robbie Rotten, thinking they're him, in order to turn Lazytown into Jumpertown, which is actually becoming Robbietown.

>>50252386
Yes, and no one's tossed to either of those. Or when they are, it's usually in a string of "punishment jumps". They're not interesting because it's always the same shit, different chain.

>>50252372
No, it shouldn't. Thanks.

>>50252373
It's not nerfed as bad as it sounds. You just can't do the crazy stuff like create blasts that are felt three universes away or rez billions of people at once.

>Day of Vengeance
That'll probably be reworked into a Scenario instead of just a drawback.

>>50252374
You betcha.

>>50252408
>They're not interesting because it's always the same shit, different chain.
Sounds like someone doesn't actually read the gauntlets in question. Of course with how salty you are, I doubt you read anything that isn't Exalted, Worm, Fate, or shounen.

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>>50252386
>Maybe it's just you, Timmy
>mfw
You recognize it's the shitposter, yet you keep taking the bait.

>>50252347
Shut your whore mouth, Robot Unicorn Attack is fucking fabulous.

>>50252437
I'm saying there are limited potential story solutions because often the only way to survive in them is to stay on the canonical railroads. Or at least that's what most intelligent people would do.

Where are some places that you can upgrade your ocean or space ship with cp?

>>50252386
To be fair, there's not much going on with SOMA and LLTQ. Robot Unicorn Attack barely has enough for Gauntlet. No accounting for any other Gauntlets, though.

No reason there can't be both a Gauntlet and a standard Jump of a setting, either. There's precedent.

>Maybe it's just you
It's always just one person on the other side of the argument, isn't it? Just one loud asshole who won't shut up and stop ruining your fun.

It's telling that there's over 600 standard jumps and less than 20 Gauntlets.
It's pretty obvious what people want.

>>50252408
You're not wrong about gauntlets being eww, but Mortal Hero and LLTQ are fun and still have some variety. The first if only because of whether you're going safe, making use of Forgotten Realms Syndrome, or cheesing with the item imports. While the latter because of the paths to making Elodie competent enough to survive (or at least protect her). Personally, I like giving her learning boosters to turn her into Batman: Pink Princess Edition. Some people use the companion or item options, and I'm pretty sure at least one person just bought his way into her being skilled.

...Remember that guy who got betrayed by a companion and was eaten up by Elodie? Then Elodie got herself pounded by Rodin (and not in the good way either) while he went on to... do whatever the fuck Rodin does all over the multiverse. That was almost as magical as the guy who choked to death on food not even a minute into Naruto jump 1.

If it weren't for gauntlets, that would never have happened. And that's terrible.

>>50252436
>It's not nerfed as bad as it sounds. You just can't do the crazy stuff like create blasts that are felt three universes away or rez billions of people at once.
As I said it was nerfed underwhelmingly, as in I'm actually impressed by how much power is being let through when most of the DC stuff I've seen is street level, cept for the ring.
>Day of Vengeance
Still how? Do we get the fucking Spear of Destiny or something, cause that's the only way he's ever been reliably taken down. I mean you've got guys like Gaunlet who try to craft combos to defeat that kinda thing but every time I've seen him do that he's been told, flat out, no-sell you don't fight the Specter he fucks you up no matter what. Heck the only resistance to Reality Warping in the entire chain is in Unsounded, which is some book I've never even heard of.

>>50252523
Anon, nobody gives a fuck about stories anymore.

>>50252493
>It's telling that there's over 600 standard jumps and less than 20 Gauntlets.
Yeah because entitled fuckwits keep shitting on anyone who dares to deviate. If you're not a double god ant-stomping harem jumper, you're screamed at for doing it wrong.

>>50252523
Yes. The thing is, there isn't really much of an option for variety with something like Uber, which is basically "bad shit happens because of black-box Nazi gods" the setting, and by not getting involved, you're claim to any sort of morality would be dubious at best.

>>50252551
It's more because not everyone is satisfied being another cog in a grimderp story, whose presence doesn't really affect the setting at all.

>>50252551
>nobody gives a fuck about stories
...stop judging me.

>>50252577
>It's more because not everyone is satisfied being another cog in a grimderp story, whose presence doesn't really affect the setting at all.
So work to change that and put some effort in instead of whining to have everything handed to you. I thought Jumpers were supposed to conquer anything.

>>50252551
>entitled fuckwits
Looks like the 'entitled fuckwits' are in the majority, anon. You're the minority here. And a minority who constantly bitches about the status quo, despite the grand majority of people being in favor of it, would be the real 'entitled fuckwit', wouldn't they? It's like an SJW screaming about safe spaces and trigger warnings.

So… we're done here, right? Gauntlets aren't popular. And there's really no reason for them. They're like… an appendix.

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>>50252584
Okay I laughed.

>>50252584
>>50252551
Yeah, I want no part of this.

>>50251545
>Doesn't it make the wearer essentially invincible?
As long as you wear the mask you are toonforce invincible, much less powerful offensively but still pretty powerful.

Unfortunately the mask also drives you increasingly insane the longer you wear it so the user has to take it off eventually and it will come off on it's own if you fall asleep or unconscious, the Worm power based on it has a similar weakness in that the power doesn't work when you're unconscious.

>>50252436
Couldn't you eventually do that? I thought the whole 'no match for doctor fate' bit referred to your starting ability, not after x amount of training/magic boosters.

>>50252616
You stop that.

>>50252596
So why doesn't everything just give you 3000 CP if none of it matters, anyway?

Better yet, please justify the existence of gauntlets, especially for a setting that is based on normal being becoming supernaturally empowered to meet their opponents in battle.

>>50252584
NEVER.

>>50252601
>Gauntlets aren't popular. And there's really no reason for them.
And yet they still exist, and we had recent ones being made. So how's that majority working out for you?

>>50252633
Can't be done

>>50252551
I'm fine with being depowered, but It should be voluntary and provide points in the form of a drawback.

>>50252633
That's too strong.

>>50252538
>As I said it was nerfed underwhelmingly, as in I'm actually impressed by how much power is being let through when most of the DC stuff I've seen is street level, cept for the ring.
It's supposed to be on par with the original capstones that were stuff like make you a knockoff Merlin/Tim Hunter, make you an Avatar of the Green/Red/Blue, or give you Synchrocity Wave Travelling.

>Still how?
You won't be required to fight him directly. I'm not sure exactly what the scenario will be, but it'll be different.

I guess we just don't get some IPs made as Jumps then, because some just don't have enough content for a full 1,000 CP Jump, yet would be perfect Gauntlet material.

Inb4 both sides call me a shitposter for saying we can't get a setting as a jump.

>>50252645
Still 600:17, in my favor.
Ball's in your court, anon. You're getting dunked on pretty hard right now, you need to bring your A game.

COME ON AND SLAM

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Right, right I'm on it.

>>50252669
Please don't associate me with shitposters.

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This conversation is silly.

I guess if we're on the topic of stories...Jumpers! Ever have an enemy you respected or even got along with? Anyone who put up a surprisingly good fight despite an overwhelming power gap? Ever impress someone without using outside context powers?

>>50252691
Dude, did you not see what I just said?

>>50252683
Something something "everything deserves a jump" something something "m-muh power" something something "gauntlets are satan's work and only nerfers like red would want them reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

>>50252700
>we're on the topic of stories

We aren't, because nobody here is a writer worth reading.

>>50252683
Don't get me wrong, I'm very anti-Gauntlet, as I don't see a need for them if there's enough content to make a full fledged jump.
But for something like SOMA or RUA, it does make a bit of sense, I suppose.

In particular, anyone who's read Uber knows there's enough of a setting there for a full fledged Jump.
There's no need for a Gauntlet.

>>50252627
I'll look into it.

>>50252632
Eh. The item alone won't give you the power to do so. It would probably give you the knowledge of /how/ to do the high-end stuff if you can supply the power.

>>50252713
Yeah, right here: >>50252633

>>50252683
Know how I know you're a shitposter? You're bitching about it instead of making the jump or gauntlet you want to make. Just make it if it's so important to you.

But you won't. You never do.

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>>50252726

>It's another "/jc/ is split in two on a stupid fucking argument" episode

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>>50252700
>Ever have an enemy you respected or even got along with?
The Deer Lord is pretty respectable. If only because it'll headbutt me hard enough to vaporise my torso if I don't respect it.

>>50252644
There's no reason for any jump not to be a gauntlet. If you want to preserve the tone of the setting, you make it a gauntlet. Simple as that.

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>>50252726
Ouch. Fuck you Anon. I try damn it.

Please refer to >>50252689 for our Anti-Shitposter Policy.

>>50252681
That's all cool man. It's just after Young Justice anything Dr. Fate related I thought you'd nerf harder.
>You won't be required to fight him directly. I'm not sure exactly what the scenario will be, but it'll be different.
Okay I guess but as you are a dude with more know-how on the DC could you tell me how we /would/ fight him directly, if we so wished.

50252683
see >>50252761
Rule one.

>>50252789
>youjustplayedyourself.meme

>>50252780
It's more like: "If you're a complete fucking hack who can't preserve the tone of the setting despite being given vast amounts of material to work with, then make it a gauntlet."

Or alternatively: "There's not enough content for a full-fledged jump, so let's make a gauntlet."

>>50252773
It's a bunch of cunts samefagging at each other. Calm your fucking tits, Mooblord.

>>50252771
Fucking show me one "writer" that doesn't consistently get shat on or ignored by a good 90% of thread.

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>>50252773
It'll pass.

>>50252847
ASA.

>>50252834
Okay. So, that doesn't justify the existence of non-gauntlet jumps, anon.

I, for one, think the Dark Knight trilogy would make a perfect gauntlet, as it's a major point that the Bat's mortal frailties weaken him. Or Lovecraft, which is entirely about the futility of your existence.

Ignore the shitposter, everyone.
He couldn't change people's minds on Gauntlets, so now he's attacking writefags.

>>50252883
Good luck convincing the harpies of that. Anything that isn't just them yawning with ten or so years of extra power is a sin punishable by death.

>>50252883
So take a drawback that locks your powers away. Don't force your predilections on the rest of us.

>>50252736
Not the guy you're talking to might I make a suggestion? Dr. Fate's power seems to be based on his host, jumper probably won't be an ideal one without considerable power of their own.

If you feel the need to nerf an item based on him I would suggest having jumper's "compatibility" with it be based on said jumper's own magical abilities and then soft capped at whatever level feels appropriate.

>>50252883
Do what >>50252914 said or, make a gauntlet of the settings yourself.

Please refer to >>50252689 for our Anti-Shitposter Policy.

So where do I got to find the list of claims? Do we have an Eragon series yet?

>>50252940
Justiceanon made an Eragon jump, but he's said time and again that he's disappointed with every jump he's made and if someone wanted to remake them, he'd be cool with it.

>>50252940
We do.

>>50252940
Inheritance Trilogy is already made, Justiceanon HAS gone on record however to say he doesn't mind someone replacing it as he just wanted to make the damn world available.

>>50252700
Tabris/Kaworu and I got along pretty well, despite him being an Angel. We discussed a lot of things, like what it means to be human, how amazing music was, and why giant robots were awesome. I even managed to help Shinji convince him to join our side, but for real this time (Shinji can accomplish this in the same game we get most of the lore from, so it should be possible). I did not feel the same way about Gendo and SEELE. I pitied the former a little bit, but the latter was purged with extreme prejudice.

>>50252967
>>50252972
>inb4 someone makes a "know the true name of Magic" perk for 200cp, discounted to elves naturally

Please refer to >>50252689 (You) for our Anti-Shitposter Policy.

>>50252967
>>50252971
>>50252972
Huh didn't know that. I'll have to look at it and make a build.

>>50252940
Yeah, someone claimed it. IIRC, the same guy who made Last Exile.

>>50252989
The fact that it was banned to begin with is completely horseshit.

Okay, so I'm looking for property, or more accurately, sources of political/social power that follow me.

If anyone would care to suggest something, that'd be fantastic.

Nice and quaint stuff like Mad Men's Department Store or Breaking Bad's Los Pollos Hermanos are pretty good too since it's a nice thing to manage when I don't feel like dealing with being a walking world power, but I'm talking the BIG stuff in particular. Like Sherlock Holmes' An Empire in the Shadows, Europa Universalis' East Jumper Company and Duchy, Hearts of Iron's purchasable fleet, and East vs West's Nimitz-class carrier and Strategic Defense Initiative.

Noble titles technically count but that's a dime a dozen.

>>50252989
That wouldn't make any sense. Since no one knew the True Name until Galbatorix figured it out in the final book.
It had been lost for ages.

Not like it matters, relying on words and gestures to do magic is for pussies!
You should totally just try to will stuff into existence, no way it can go wrong.

>>50253027
Look at Spice and Wolf, is has both property and titles available that follow you around post jump.

Also? It's a pretty great jump of a sweet property.

>>50252927
I don'the know about the soft cap, especially if the item is really expensive and based on magnifying what you already have.

>>50253008
Yep. AND they actually want a final criticism of it here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xx_58QTW0GbHHB9dDh_TFkQYmye7bJlTu_b_-IfUJVw/edit

They can't link it directly themselves as they keep getting a Connection Error trying to post on 4chins.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xx_58QTW0GbHHB9dDh_TFkQYmye7bJlTu_b_-IfUJVw/edit?usp=sharing

Eragon is currently in progress by a friend. Have a look.

>>50253044
>Eragon is currently in progress by a friend. Have a look.
Did he check with Justice first? If not, he's an asshole.

>>50253035
Doesn't matter, you've got people like >>50253022 who want to instantly know it, thereby granting Capital-O Omnipotence according to the Eragon rules of magic. We're going to see it happen, because who the fuck cares if it took that long to figure out? Jumpers always trump settings.

>>50252989
People need to stop wanking the the "true name of magic".

The "true name of magic" is just the name of the magic language, allows you to cast any spell that could be cast with the language with that one word and manipulate the ancient language itself through magic.

The first part just saves time and the latter is only useful in a setting where 99.9% of magic is done through he language.

>>50253027
Dragon Age: Inquisition has two perks you might be interested in. One makes you a judge and the other makes it so that every place you jump into you get a loyal super competent war council.

>>50253069
Justice Anon has gone on record saying his jump can be replaced, asshole.

>>50253069
Yes, he did.

>>50252801
>That's all cool man. It's just after Young Justice anything Dr. Fate related I thought you'd nerf harder.
Not sure what you mean.

>Okay I guess but as you are a dude with more know-how on the DC could you tell me how we /would/ fight him directly, if we so wished.
Spectre with a compatible host and the full backing of the Presence? You wouldn't.

Spectre as we has in Day of Vengeance, lacking a host, corrupted by Eclipse, and drawing on just enoupower to not throw it in God's face? Well, you're still fighting a fairly powerful reality warper who is almost entirely immortal and can drain the magic from others to use against them, but he's not a fully-fledged cosmic entity. At one point, he's beaten back by a bunch of people channeling their magic into Captain Marvel, who gets amped and beats the hell out of him.

But ultimately, if you wanted to actually harm/capture him, you'd probably want something that isn't primarily magical in nature and can itself no-sell magic, since his powers are all ultimately magical.

You could also theoretically bind him to another human host, who act as arbiters of his judgement and can limit how much power he can access.

>>50252927
That's kind of what I had intended already, but making it clearer and maybe reducing how much the item grants on its own would probably be a good idea. Not sure about a soft cap though, since it's primarily acting as focus for your own power.

But it's going to be expensive and balances aeound the other options. I'll definitely do some more balancing on most of the stuff as I update the jump and get more feedback, though

>>50253092
>allows you to cast any spell that could be cast with the language with that one word and manipulate the ancient language itself through magic
And we haven't seen any limits on that so far. Hence, omnipotence.

>>50253109
He's confusing you for YJ_Anon, who said that you'd literally never be able to get to Zatara!Fate's level with Order Magic even if you spent millennia on magical enlightenment and training. You apparently would need a vast majority of the magic-boosters in the chain.

>>50253109
>>50253160
I did indeed sorry.

>>50253160
Well Mystic can correct that fuckup of a decision. We deserve better.

>>50253160
...isn't Zartara!Fate one of the weakest versions though?

>>50253123
Cannot raise the dead, cannot create from nothing, consumes brutal amounts of energy for crude effects.

>>50253190
Except you said:
>The first part just saves time and the latter is only useful in a setting where 99.9% of magic is done through the language.
And there's plenty of magic systems that can do exactly what you claim it can't do. So I'll be taking the godhood this chain keeps trying to nerf, please.

>>50253039
Oh man, that's some good shit.

And looks like a nice watch, too.

Thanks anon.

>>50253093
...Well, that Judge perk's gonna be one way to get mundane governments to think better of me.

Thank you.

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>>50253109
You could also probably just overpower the weakened Spectre if you're a late-game jumper. He's kind of a jobber, really.

>>50253160
I was under the impression you could reach YJ Fate's level, just not Klarion's.

>>50253027
The scenario reward for Warriors Orochi is an entire port city that follows you around. That's pretty good political/economic power.

>>50253188
>>50253231
No, Zatanna's father, Zatara. You cannot reach his level just through training. Here's a quote, but keep in mind that the shitposter soon joins the conversation.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/48882914/#48889052

You need outside perks, but presumably you'd need a ludicrous shit-ton of them because it can't be improved at all through just study or training. Probably most of the magic-boosters.

>>50253231
Someone mentioned Dr. Fate's ability to redirect a planet ending blast with his magic. A feat that says more about the nature of his magic than its power but it was reason enough for YJ to make a ruling to limit your power with it further.

>>50253231
Poor Spectre he's always jobbing.

>>50253177
S'Alright. Funnily enough, this is like the third time I've seen someone mix YJ Anon and I up.

>>50253231
>You could also probably just overpower the weakened Spectre if you're a late-game jumper. He's kind of a jobber, really.
Er, I thought that the Specter we're fighting is basically the one from Day of Vengence. He doesn't job at all during that, to my memory anyway.

>>50253070
Nice strawman.
Anon was complaining about it being banned, he didn't say anything about wanting it instantly.
Just that he'd like arbitrary limitations repealed.

And you obviously haven't read the books, so I'll break it down for you:
It doesn't make you omnipotent. It makes it so that any magic you cast using the Ancient Language trumps any other magic using the Ancient Language.
People can still use magic without AL, it's just more dangerous. That's how the final battle was won, as a matter of fact.

There's still the energy issues, anyway. Any serious magic requires bullshit levels of energy, because you have to pay what it would actually cost to do things the hard way.

>>50253346
Any jumper worth their salt never has energy issues anymore. Get fucked.

>>50253271
>>50253266
Oh. Good to know.

>>50253274
It's not his fault. He's a powerful comic book character. Most comic writers don't know how to deal with powerful characters beyond having them job all the time.

>>50253307
Nah, he doesn't. Because for one thing, he was significantly weaker there and for another, he was the villain.

That was mostly a joke, but he WAS weaker during Day of Vengeance, to the point where he could potentially be overpowered if you're strong enough.

So, and I hope this doesn't kick off the argument about gauntlets again, but what works of fiction do you really like and would want to visit but can't see any way to make a jump of? I've been thinking of that lately, since I've been rereading The Stress Of Her Regard and realizing that "yandere quantum-mechanical vampire snake" is exactly the sort of thing that jumpers deal with on an every day basis. But the story is really meant more as a personal horror for Crawford, Byron and Shelley (as in Lord Byron and Percy Shelley, it's about poets being haunted by the aforementioned yandere quantum-mechanical vampire snakes. Crawford is OC for the story) even though they do eventually wind up having to save the world, so I can't see a good way to get a jumper involved in it without railroading.

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What are some jumps in which you can waifu yourself?

>>50253378
I didn't know I wanted this until now. What have you done, anon?

>>50253369
Death Gate Cycle. I think it'd make a superb Jump if there was some way to make anything but Sartan and Patryn viable backgrounds.

>>50253378
Problem Sleuth has the Distaff Counterpart companion, they're a gender-swapped version of you.

>>50253361
That's an argument relying on interjump balance. Get fucked.

>>50253386
>Death Gate Cycle. I think it'd make a superb Jump if there was some way to make anything but Sartan and Patryn viable backgrounds.
Oh fuck yes.

You're right, though. Everyone would want rune magic and there's no way to balance that.

>>50253092
>>50253123
>>50253190
>>50253215
If you wank that all magic systems are 100% compatible, then yes, The True Name is super-OP.

But who does that? Who here assumes that Inheritance magic and Fate/ magic would ever get along? What about HP and Dresden?

Doesn't make sense, you guys.

>>50253361
>>50253396
You're both rude assholes. Get fucked.

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>>50253378
Grrl Power if someone ever resurrects Somefaggit.

>>50253251
...Who the hell's Kasumi?

Also, thanks.

>>50253369
Qualia the Purple, because most of the story is told from the perspective of a girl who keeps going to alternate timelines, and the time frame of the story is ridiculous.

It's still a fun read though and I totally recommend it.

Numerous settings that are mundane apart from one character that has special powers.

A Pokemon Go jump, I don't think the novelty isn't enough to base an entire jump around, but I think it's a cute idea.

Also on the list of "can't make a jump of it" is some stuff that's just a touch too magical-realmy for jumpchain.

>>50253470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMIvmRKid5g

>>50253367
>Nah, he doesn't.
Okay.

>That was mostly a joke, but he WAS weaker during Day of Vengeance, to the point where he could potentially be overpowered if you're strong enough.
Would Out of Context as fuck Naruto sealing, like shiki funin level, work on him? Turn his ass into a battery, if so.

>>50253470
A character from Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden. She's in Warriors Orochi, too. The framing device for Warriors Orochi is that Orochi grabbed a bunch of people from various timelines and universes, so that's how they justified having her, her sister Ayane, and Ryu Hayabusa in the game.

In Teen Titans, if I pick up my own version of the Red X suit, can I tie other Perk and Gear purchases into it, as long as I can tie them into its gimmick (whatever I choose)?

>>50253378
what if you took awakening and you romanced your evil possessed future self?

>>50253428
>not taking Conjoined Conjures
>not making them compatible

Plebeian.

>>50253369
Protectors of the Plot Continuum. Imagine trying to make THAT work.

>>50253513
>>50253521
Huh.

Well that's a thing.

>>50253428
Everyone here does.

>>50253396
Sorry sweetie, them's the ropes. Any jumper learns how to get infinite magical energy, it's nothing special. So scurry along and let's get a jump without that nerf anymore, mm?

>>50253536
Oh, and Momiji and Rachel, too. I forgot about them. And Sterk from Atelier Rorona, of all people, also winds up in there. Warriors Orochi 3 is a weird game.

>>50253502
>Numerous settings that are mundane apart from one character that has special powers.
Any other characters? We've had Jumps based on video games with one playable character, it can't be that different.

>A Pokemon Go jump, I don't think the novelty isn't enough to base an entire jump around, but I think it's a cute idea.
I could see that being a toggle drawback if someone ever does that second Pokemon Jump people have thrown around a couple times.

>>50253553
>Any jumper learns how to get infinite magical energy, it's nothing special.
I haven't. Large amounts, but not infinite. Could you share your method? I don't want to miss out on some essential part of the Jumpchain experience.

>>50253570
Orgel of Origins, Universal Adapter. Boom. Infinite energy of whatever the fuck you want.

>>50253369
Reposting for those who live in less-fortunate timezones:

I'd like to propose a preemptive ban-list for settings that offer too much power to make into jumps:

>God of Highschool
>SMT Post-SMT II
>Dies Irae
>Date A Live
>Sengoku Basara
>Bastard!!!
>Diebuster
>Nobilis
>Scion
>Aberrant
>Psyren
>Malazan: Book of the Fallen
>Second Apocalypse
>Dark Tower
>Preacher
>Spawn
>Saint Seiya
>The rest of Exalted, but especially Solars
>The Culture
>Vampire Hunter D

Basically, we just people of /jc/ need to take a stand against the power-wankers. Not even a single thought of making one of these settings a jump is to be tolerated. If, despite all odds, jumpers for these settings are claimed, we must not allow them into the drive.

What jump has the best technopathy? I'm not looking for anything to let me control machines, just to replace keyboards

>>50253587
Dude, you can't just try to copy shitposter kun. If you want to troll you need to come up with your own ideas.

>>50253369
I think I've said this before, but Fairly Odd Parents. The argument against it relies on interjump balance, but fairy magic is ridiculously broken in the hands of anyone who's not an absolutely idiotic dumbass, even with Da Rulez.

Also, a theoretical The Destroyer jump would have to deal with the fact that, in universe, Sinanju is so much better than anything else that it's the only thing anyone would take. At the same time, it's so central to the series that you can't not offer it. At least in the Wuxia jump it has to compete with the other mystical martial arts, in the source material it's ludicrously OP.