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Infinity General -- Chinese Inquisition Edition

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Infinity is a 28mm scale futuristic skirmish game by Corvus Belli where face tattoos and other body augmentations don't automatically fire you from your government job.

>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/

>Rules wikis:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page
http://www.infinitythewiki.com/en/Main_Page

>Rules Wiki Offline Backup
https://mega.nz/#!Dxs3VbKQ!_tRgLeIszkdMBvnpCFE4xHELtngLRL26cexppwmAIws

>Official Army Builder:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/

>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/

>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>N3 Reverse Index Web App (a bit outdated as of HSN3 but still a bit viable to look at)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/

>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc

>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ

>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf

>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446

>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8

>The RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game

>WIP Tactica
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Infinity_Tactics

>RPG Character Creation
http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/

>Faction colour scheme creator here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61395031/Infinity/index.html

Previous thread:
>>50105918
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Preview of the "Manga" Pre-Order mini I didn't see in the previous threads. Sniper shot from this week is likely it, unfortunately.
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So, am I imagining things, or are Wu Ming loadouts in large chunk of profiles rather arbitrary:
- the one Chain Rifle/SMG. profile and the one Combi-rifle/EMitter/AP Mines profile are only availiable with Duo
- Boarding Shotgun only with Tinbots or FO
- Panzerfaust and a light shotty for 0.5 SWC
- HRL or HMG for 2 SWC?
- MR only with some flavor of grenade launcher
I mean, I like the sculpts and the lore, but that seems rather dumb overall. Also, the fact that no model actually carries a rifle is odd.
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>>50161766
At first I thought he was Julius fucking Caesar since the hair kinda looks like a laurel wreath.
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>>50161858
I'm right there with you Anon, something similar was my first thought upon seeing that head as well.
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>>50161766
I wonder if this is Knauf. Looks neat. I would preorder the manga anyway.
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>>50161766
>PanO sniper Caesar
Hold me, it's beautiful.
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>>50161816
The Duo profiles can be used in Core as well. 2 SWC for HRL/HMG on HI is standard. Wu Ming overall have very unusual profiles, making them more versatile than normal HI.
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How do i make an army list that is only mercenaries?
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>>50162896
QK sectorial of Haqqislam, or you could just simply do a friendly and agreed game of only mercenaries picking whatever army you want.
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>>50162896
Its for a league, if its a narrative league than i wanna play mercs
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>>50163055
Then QK. Or if you want guys that are mercs in fluff but not marked as such, Corregidor.
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>>50163320
Some corregidor units pop up in other sectorials (ariadna and haqq), i'd say that marks them as legit mercenaries.

Hell, I don't really get what's with the merc label, since most of them can only fight with one or two factions, so they pretty much belong to them.
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>>50163320
>>50163686
Everyone works in Corregidor, be it for Nomads or other nations. Construction, mining, etc. A number of their personnel happen to be pretty decently skilled soldiers. Provided that their home doesn't need them to fight, they'll instead be fighting for the highest bidder.

One of the neater parts of Corregidor- they get shit done, and are very competitively priced for their services. This means you have Nomads running all over the place doing shady shit for cash. If their employer (whoever it may be) takes advantage of their services they send Brigada pain trains to take over the employer's facility and ransom it back to them.

Pretty much all Corregidorians are mercenaries, no doubt about it. Only thing they're missing are catgirls.
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>>50164545
Not all nomads are disgusting bakunin vermin.
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Is it just me, or do all ariadna sectorials essentially have the exact same units for the exact same niches, but with slightly different skill loadouts.

Like, here's a paratrooper commando in russian, celtic, french and american flavors. They all do the same job in the same way, but this one has one more point of armor, this one doesn't have terrain and this one has a light shotgun instead of a boarding shotgun.

And it feels the same with other unit types, too. It's like all the sectorial are homogeneous as fuck, fighting the same way with nearly the same units and no proper focus.
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>>50164992
if only there was Russian sectorial. There is more then enough models to make a kazak sectorial, yet CB keeps hating on Russians, which is again an example of how western people hate everything that is superior to them.
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>>50165140
I'm amused that the currently existing sectorials actually have less unit variety than the Russians which don't have a sectorial.
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>>50159342
Old thread and all, I had to go to sleep.

>...Better than everyone moving at once
Oh yeah, it's fucking rad. I 100% agree that infinity's turns are awesome. The issue I have is introducing it to other wargamers, boardgamers and videogamers. Infinity turn structure is different, and a new paradigm, which doesn't translate well into a simulation which people can use their prior experience to understand.

>That is a problem with being new. Maybe you should stick to quick 200 pts... People should really stop trying to get into the game with 300pts right away.
Game becomes a lot faster once you remember all the weapon ranges and bonuses.
I've only played around 30-40 games of N3(not including Icestorm misson runs, then it would be around 150 games), but that's not a good argument against my opposition of the game. It's rules heavy. It has some really left field questions which you have to answer. Is has a lot of number checking, measuring, and interaction. I can't remember the weapon bands, the statlines and hacking table off the top of my head, I'm never going to be able to. And, yes the game is faster at 200 points, and my favourite point level is 150 on super dense boards.

>...It's a high lethality game... When all that's left on one side is a Tikbalang and a Machinist at the start of turn 3, you kind of see why there's no need to go any further.
Nope, not always. I've seen 300 points games that end at turn three with only 50 points of casualties on both sides. How that happened? I have no idea... They both had advent calendar lists, so it's not an interaction I'm used to. My concern with the turn count, it's an arbitrary end point, that hasn't always felt like an appropriate conclusion.

My argument, Infinity = Awesome. Infinity = Rules heavy. I'm moving towards liking rules light games, which I can introduce to friends and play a deep tactical game after only a short introduction.
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>>50164545
>Only thing they're missing are catgirls.
He says when the ORIGINAL catgirl is a full Corregidor borne and other doctors have cat robots. And half the combat units are named aftet cats.
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>Game becomes a lot faster once you remember all the weapon ranges and bonuses.
I've only played around 30-40 games of N3(not including Icestorm misson runs, then it would be around 150 games), but that's not a good argument against my opposition of the game. It's rules heavy. It has some really left field questions which you have to answer. Is has a lot of number checking, measuring, and interaction. I can't remember the weapon bands, the statlines and hacking table off the top of my head, I'm never going to be able to. And, yes the game is faster at 200 points, and my favourite point level is 150 on super dense boards.

It has nothing to do with points or army size, and more with then, Infinity is not w40k. It is realy hard for some people to unlearn habits from other games. For example we had a dude that was constantly checking ranges to everything, and no amount of telling him it is illegal could change him.
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>>50161816
A lot of that does make sense. But only in a link.

The filler Duo model gets short ranged shit, either cheap or upgraded. You pair it with HMG for balance.

Shotgun is either filler objective grabber or filler tinbot monkey - in either case it's a touch cheaper than a rifle and adds utility and a range band.

PFaust+shotty is just a cheap ARO guy who can do short or mid range. M Rifle alone is rarely worth the points, but throw in grenades to fuck your opponent's LI linkteam into oblivion, and now he's versatile and the second choice leader when the machine gun dies.

2SWC for rockets sucks though.
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>>50165636
I've heard CR + SMG and FO shottie is a fine DUO for room clearing and take and hold.
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>>50165485
> My concern with the turn count, it's an arbitrary end point, that hasn't always felt like an appropriate conclusion.

Agreed. It's really artificial and spoils the storytelling aspect of the game when it's so circumscribed.
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>>50165555
Where's the robophile module? Where?!?
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>>50165877
I find it great. It forces the players to move their asses to score and only turtle to protect objectives.

As opposed to endless stalemates.
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>>50165754
Sure, but heaven help you if you're caught out in the open with your pants down.
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>>50161766
I was hoping for Hexa, but I'm totally fine with this
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>>50165894
Also Corregidor.
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>>50165555
Cheap superficial body mods are not where it's at.

Also zondcats/remotes don't count.

Neither do unit designations.

You lie.
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>>50163686
>Hell, I don't really get what's with the merc label, since most of them can only fight with one or two factions, so they pretty much belong to them.
It's a holdover from N2, where Mercs were a separate faction with special rules.
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>>50165485
>How that happened? I have no idea...
>They both had advent calendar lists
That's how it happened. Everyone was sneaking and mucking about instead of fighting. It's like an MtG Control vs Control or Fog vs Fog, where both sides are all about deflecting rather than dealing damage.
I've had 300pts games in which by first player's turn 3 every single of my units was slaughtered.
Damn dirty monkeys.

>>50166032
>I find it great. It forces the players to move their asses to score and only turtle to protect objectives.
That's a pro argument for any game having a turn limit. One of my friend says a turn limit is one of the biggest sins of board games, as "the game often ends just as you're starting to get everything going smoothly". By then the game just becomes pointless. Pressure is good here, it forces the player to actively find a win route.
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>>50167082
>That's a pro argument for any game having a turn limit. One of my friend says a turn limit is one of the biggest sins of board games, as "the game often ends just as you're starting to get everything going smoothly". By then the game just becomes pointless. Pressure is good here, it forces the player to actively find a win route.

You can make pressure without having a turn limit. So you could have, on the board benifitial terrain/areas on the board that will give advantages to the player who takes the initiative. Having bounty 2 containers near the center of the board or having one way saturation zones. Or having negative modifiers to staying in your deployment area.
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>>50167221
You have a reason to move your ass (objectives) and a reason to do it fast (The game is going to end if you keep setting up). Games only really end "when it's starting to get good" if the players aren't making the game good from the first turn because they are too busy wasting time fucking around.

It's literally an issue with the players and not the game.
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Impulsively bough red veil, are there any canon yu jing uniforms that aren't yellow or orange?
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>>50167273
Not to mention that miniature games tend to take a long time regardless. Infinity is a "fast" game and it still takes an hour and a half to two hours to play.

>>50167353
There are some ISS ones in the HSN3 fluff book, but I don't have it on hand to scan.
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>>50167221
Plus if there was no turn limit, the game would turn in to people spaming TR hmgs and snipers, and sucide camo/TO dudes trying to take objectives.
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>>50167353
The HSN3 book has two alternative schemes, Jinyiwei (Emperor's inner security, red/yellow) and Shence (infamous from pacifying Factory Revolts, black/blue).

Shence is exactly what this guy does:
https://theinvinciblearmy.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/cropped-img_20160802_232016528_hdr.jpg
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>>50167353
Red and white.
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Does anyone else have that picture of the alternate scheme of the Geckos?

And does anyone have a picture of the Jinyiwei scheme
>>50168038
mentioned?
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>>50168948
>Jinyiwei
http://scarhandpainting.com/colour-recipes-infinity-yu-jing-2/

Not much, but it might help.
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>>50161766
Is it really going to be made of plastic though, or is it just a sample cast?
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>>50170009
They 3d print their master, then use it to make moulds.
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Just assembled dat new Garuda. Love it. HUGE improvement over the old.

What are you guys working on?
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>>50167001
Sure, closet furries.
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>>50170865
I have se me Janissaries on table.
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>>50170976
you keep them in a closet? kinky
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>>50170865
Stripping the rv hsien.

Can you take a pic of the new and old cranes next to each other?
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>>50170865
Trying to figure out how to do a porcelain-like look for the armor of my Onyx dron deluge.
The open flesh was easily done, but all attempts at the ceramics looked like ass and will require me to strip three unidrons and a overdron.
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guys what do you think about this for a starter 200 pts army

Phoenix
Myrmidonetta /hacker/
Machon Lt
Myrmidon chainrifle
Agama Rocket Launcher
Agama Mk12
Thorakites FO Sub Machine/Chain rifle
Net Rod

It is a wee bit low on models and orders, but I could get it realy cheap, over lets say 200 pts of nomadds or ariadna.
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I'm going to be playing in an Infinity RPG game soon. I need character ideas. Anyone feel like helping out?
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>>50171398
my main opponents aka brothers army looks like this right now
1xhardcase with shotgun
1xfoxtrot Lt
2xkrakot renegades with chain rifles
2xChaseur Fo
Spetznaz with hmg
Uxia spec ops.
Spetznaz with shotgun AD
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>>50171408
A bakuni net news man addicted to cat modfication surgeries, and some sort of rare drug.
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>>50171398
Needs more orders. 10 is recommended and 9 can work, but 8 just isn't enough for 200 points, especially if one is a Netrod.

>>50171408
A guy convinced that he's a CA sleeper agent, and wants to sabotage his own mission but isn't willing to kill himself to do so. He may or may not actually be a CA sleeper agent.
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>>50171185
sho fo

>>50171396
Reminds of Phyrexians which are my favorite guys in MTG. I approve.

>>50171398
You already said it: too low on models/orders. But mostly: You're WAY over the swc allotment for 200pts. I recommend dropping Phoenix for Eudoros, and maybe even dropping one of the agema for some cheaper orders.

Don't rely on those Netrods too. I've have many that jumped off the table during deployment.
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>>50171408
>I need character ideas.
Isn't that what the lifepath's for?
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>>50171459
Damnit now I want to paint my ISS but can't because my airbrush is borked to all hell.
:(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPi3USYVSI
Dire Foes :D
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>>50171501
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>>50171501
>>50171502
I cant wait for this. Also dat HVT
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>>50171436
how to change the list, any advice ?
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>>50171502
Now that I'm seeing Zhuang's actual painted model rather than a render... I still don't like it. The pose doesn't fit the model, it uses that stupid knife reverse grip that CB seems to have a hard on for these days, and it's going to clash with the far less dynamic CGs he'll be linked with. It's a shame.

The other stuff is good though, especially that HVT.
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>>50171436
I need the agama. turn one my brother normaly has 4-5 dudes near objectives, and his army is full camo, aside for one para trooper spetznaz.
Would it help if I took out phoenix, took a chain myrmidon instea dof him?
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>>50171502
- YJ guy looks fairly boring and has an ugly haircut, but the pose is alright. Ambivalent on the bots.
- Haqq cutie is overall pretty good, if somewhat unremarkable.
- HVT looks kinda odd, like a Disney villain or something. Maybe it's the paintjob.
6/10 overall, I'd say.
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>>50171539
>>50171549
Agreed on all counts. Also Zhuang just looks like he's squinting to look more Asian.
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>>50171539
I don't mind the knife, but the pose is fairly odd (and reminds very much of another Infinity mini, though I can't pin down which one) and the armor looks somewhat overdone.
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>>50171459
how about this
Machon Lt
myrmidon chain rifle
myrmidon spitfire
Myrmidonetta /hacker/
Agama Rocket Launcher
Agama Mk12
thorakites FO SubMacine/Chain rifle
Net Rod
Net Rod
Warcor 6th sense
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>>50171539
I agree. I really did not like his Krakot pose. The painted version only exaggerates the the bulkiness of the backpack, and clumsiness of the pose.

Leila is ace though. Both model and profile.
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>>50171574
Krakot. It looks a lot better on the monkey imo. It's not an inherently bad pose, but Zhuang's bulky armour and gun don't mesh with it and the constipated facial expression doesn't help.
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>>50170865
I need to do proper photo sessions of everything I've painted recently.
That means a Bandit, Intruder, Tomcat, 3 Fusiliers, Joan, Mulebots and Tikbalang.
I think I'm going to take a break for a while, at least from Infinity.
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>>50171554
>squinting
He does, doesn't he? He's probably a guizi, trying to blend in.
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>>50171596
Forgot pic

The resemblance is uncanny, except one looks good and the other doesn't.
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>>50171408
A Reverend Agent that used to have a lover that turned out to be an ALEPH spy.
I actually rolled something like this in the character creator. I've not saved the sheet though.
Also you can never go wrong with a thrill-seeker bounty hunter, like Miranda Ashcroft.
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>>50171605
Yeah, that's the one. I wonder if they used the same pose in the CAD and just rolled with it or if it's a actual conicidence. I mean, the resemblance is uncanny.
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First timer here, just got Red Veil. Holy fuck these things are tiny. I don't even know how to start putting them together. Do you grab them with your fingers? The tip of the nails? Needles with a flat head?

So here's google's first suggestion for "game for ants".
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>>50171581
I recommend dropping an Agema. 1 is enough even in 300pts. Do you have Nesaie or Thrasymedes? Try to fit in a cheap Thorakitai 4-man fireteam. Running multiple enomotarchos teams will really help with order efficiency
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>>50171600
>that face

YOU WANT FLIED LICE
SO SOLLY
NO LICE FOR YOU
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>>50171669
Fingers or tweezers. Use superglue to stick them together.
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>>50171554
>>50171600
To be fair, it matches his screaming expression ...better than Pheasant's girl squint
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>>50171600
>>50171554
>>50171679
Dunno, I think it looks like he's shouting in anger.
Also he's quite handsome for a Chink.
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>>50171731
She's just having a standing power nap. When you're an agent in the field there's not much time to sleep.
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>>50171672
I only have the models listed and an extra thorakites, phoenix and eudoros.
But could you an example list with nesaie or thrasymedes. Christmas will be in 2 months, so I could get them then.
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>>50171755
I dont play 200pts often but...
>Group 1
Nesaie
Thorakitai FO
Thorakitai FO
Thorakitai FO
Eudoros
Machaon LT
Myrmidon AHD
Myrmidon Chain
Netrod
Netrod
>Group 2
Warcor Aerocam

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>>50161766
Gonna have a special profile?
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>>50171771
I'd maybe give one Thorakites a light rocket launcher instead of having the warcor. Much better ARO and gives you some nice flame templates to play with.
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>>50171792
Sure, but FOs are cheaper, they're a specialist, doesnt cost a swc, and ths Flash Pulse have the same position range bands as the LRL.
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>>50171792
>>50171771
thanks. I will rethink my army, and maybe my brother will let me play with proxies.
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>>50171805
I'm not saying they're better than the FOs in every way, but in that specific force you've already got 2 FOs in the link and you're not doing all that much with the extra points/SWC. Flash pulse is nice, but blinding someone is not as good as killing them and burning the camo off their friend.
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>>50171806
shit, he says no to proxies. Ill try to play with what I have now, even if it is weak. Going first is going to be realy bad only 6 orders to work with on turn 1.
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>>50171939
>no proxies
>in a game where most models don't even exist
Kill him, it's your only choice.
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>>50171688
But is that enough?

IĀ“ve been reading on the need to peg some pieces because the contact zone is way too small for the glue to hold properly.
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>>50171979
Won't work, he is older and dad wants him to inherite his transport firm. Plus we are only half brothers, my dad was forced to marry my mom after he got her pregnant.
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>>50171939
Are we talking no proxying a unit as a different unit or no proxying a unit as that same unit with a different weapon? Because that second one is a lot more limiting.
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>>50171408
The ALEPH Lhost Dog Warrior that is technically possible.
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>>50170865
Almost done with a Bandit Hacker, need to work on Moira box, Wildcat HRL, and Lunokhod for a friend, but for my self I have Shaolin monks (painting one of them like Aang), a Pheasant Rank Red fury Girl, 2 Yuan Yuans, and some Haqqislamites I'm not in an immediate rush to paint like the Hunzakut, Al Hawwa (who right now is my test model for purple hair), and I've yet to assemble some Muttawi'ah (hoping they're as good as everyone says, they were a bit of a sale impulse buy).
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>>50169749
Looks too McDonald's. Don't like it. Don't like the other one either. I think I'll just stick to the Vanilla scheme.
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>>50172435
You could always try your own. There's no need to stick to studio schemes.
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>>50172447
I do my own scheme for JSA (majority dark red) and sometimes I try out what I can (I made my OOP invincible who proxies a Daofei purple, and one of my Tiger soldiers have snow blue/white pants) but I like the orange armour anyways.
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Apparently CB are testing new sectorial specific rules for Lt selection.

All we know so far is that USARF lists are required to select the unit with the lowest WIP as Lt.
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>>50172616
Fuck off, commie. This is a good thread.
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>>50172775
Commies love Drumpf.
Just ask Putin.
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>>50172780
Commies love who?
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>>50172780
You have a whole website to shitpost in, bruh. Why the infinity thread? We've got 32 unique posters on over 100 posts. There's, figuratively, nobody here.
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Man, my phone decided it was done with wifi and in thinking it was an app or something messing it up I factory reset and still doesn't work.

Thus I have lost access to army mobile and attempting to do it over mobile data has had issues regardless of settings (fairly old smart phone I guess).

So, anyone know where I can get the apk and put it on my phone?
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>>50171396
What aspect of porcelain are you aiming for? The translucence? That's a challenge even for really good painters, but might, in this case, involve hinting at the flesh structures beneath the plates with a very faint version of the same color used on the flesh, and using a combination of shade and sharp highlight at the edges.

If a white porcelain, use a very faint wash of the flesh color across the middle of each plate you want to be translucent, then put in faint lines or swoops to represent hinted flesh lines like muscles. The edges of each plate then "thicken" back to "white", fade to a neutral grey to the edges, and get a sharp white reflection highlight at the surface curves.

Not easy to make look right.

By comparison, ceramic trauma plates on bulletproof armor are dead flat and can potentially be any color.
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>>50172900
Ah, steam friend helped out there. So no worries.
Now while I sit at work doing fuck all (security position out in the middle of nowhere Kansas), I can entertain myself a bit.

In other news, how many Kums is too many? Last game I put out six and it was funny.
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What is this game about? [/spoiler]any hot skintight miniatures
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>>50173088
I'll leave someone far more eloquent to answer the first part.

You'll love it here, especially if you play factions like Aleph
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>>50173088
Spacemen shooting each other in the face. Sexily.

ALEPH and Nomads generally give their guys the tightest/least clothing, but everyone has troops with some tight pants. TAG pilots tend to be the most shamelessly sexual.
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>>50173088
Small squads shooting each other while trying to accomplish some objective in the future.

List building isnĀ“t really relevant unless you fuck up hard (ie. having nothing against TAGs [think a mini mecha] and being matched with a guy whoĀ“s bringing a few), itĀ“s more about how you use what you bring.

Heavy emphasis on movement, positioning and cover.

Ninjas got some nice suits
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>>50173114
>>50173120
>>50173155
Sound good. How much is the game? I can't find it anywhere
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>>50173063
There can never be too much kum. There must always be as much kum as your budget allows. Too bad kum cycles are huge and expensive now.

Seriously, tho, you want regular orders in there somewhere.
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>>50173162
Can run pretty cheap depending on what you buy. Starter for faction/sectorial you like plus a couple extra models to bump up to 200 points can be as low as $60. Especially on sites like game nerdz.

In the end it's what you want. Boxes tend to be $25-$35US with some going to $40US. But blisters rarely break the $12US mark.
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>>50173162
Just google Corbus Belli store and youĀ“ll get there.

You can get the starter packs for about 40 bucks each, although thereĀ“s two packs (Red Veil and Icestorm) which bring two starter sets for two different factions (Yu Jing and Haqqislam, and PanOceania and Nomads, respectively) plus a bunch of tokens, an introductory manual (although the whole rules are free to download from their website) and a a small table of paper terrain for 90. Very, very good investment, specially if youĀ“ve got someone to share it with.

As itĀ“s not the list what matters the most, but how you play, you can generally play with whatever models look better for you without bothering too much with crunching every number. After all, it only takes a couple of bad rolls for your expensive heavy infantry to die to a cheap field doctor. ItĀ“s rather unlikely, but it can happen.

A 300 points game will require about 7-15 models depending on faction and strategy, but in general you want 8-12 models, with 10 being a very sweet point because mechanics.

IĀ“ve gotten Red Veil and it brings about 170-180 points worth of units for each side (7 figures per side: 1 cheap heavy infantry, 1 super tanky expensive heavy infantry, 3 cheap light infantry, and two others with more specialized roles). 200 points is considered the sweet spot for newbie games, and many think itĀ“s a sweet spot in general because it prevents boring spammy tactics that can happen with 300 points. A light infantry trooper is 10-20 points, cheap heavy infanty 30-50, expensive HI 60-90, specialists vary a lot but generally 30-70.

So you can jump in and get a fully functioning army with just 50-60 bucks. Probably throw in a little for tokens and shit.

You need A LOT of terrain, though. I donĀ“t mean two trees, a hill and a couple ruins like in W40K, here you want a lot of buildings and different heights. The producers also make some nice paper terrain sets, though. 20 bucks for two sets is enough for a table.
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>>50173179
ArenĀ“t Kum Impetuous?

What happens if I get everyone on top of buildings? Do they have to park in front of the building and come up?

That said,
holy fuck how horrifying
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>>50173309
>bringing less than 10 models at 300 points
Is this a thing? I don't advocate spam but you should have at least a full group to play around with most of the time. 7 is crazy.

Also Haqq only gets one HI in Red Veil, the others are mostly LI with one skirmisher.
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>>50171459
Thanks anon, The scale difference on li is just enough to annoy me, so Thinking of waiting before i put any money into iss.
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>>50173419
To be fair, I havenĀ“t even looked into Haqqislam. I just wanted to start a YJ army and liked the contents of the box better than YJĀ“s starter pack.

Less than 10 models at 300 points is possible, but I can imagine it depends a lot on your local meta.
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Working on this bootleg of he scarface. Seems a lot of people arnt into the kit, but it was actually the first kit that got me into infinity, only took me like 2 years to finally get to painting it.
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>>50173179
You forgot a warcor to fill points.
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None of these are unpainted miniatures?
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>>50173179
Play Caledonia if you want to do that. William wallace makes your guys regular.

>>50173713
Everything in the game is unpainted, unassembled metal when you buy it new.
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>>50173713
Where did you get the idea that they were pre-painted?
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How can i buy this if i'm in Aus? the shipping will kill me
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>>50173674
It's a nice model, but it's only a display piece, so it's harder to justify buying it and even harder to paint it.
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>>50173766
Because everything in the store look like they're already painted?
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>>50173674
>>50173780
Nice paintjob, btw.
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>>50173784
That's standard for wargames, stuff for the game usually come like this
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>>50173772
Ask your local scene. Should be a decent number there.
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>>50173802
This look like shit tbhn
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>>50173804
Sadly none ;_;
Kingdom death cost me more than 1000$, fuck this shithole man
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>>50173784
Most of what you see painted is painted nicely by Angel Giraldez, followed by David A. Faustos (if how I'm remembering his name is right). Angel Giraldez has two painting books out, describing a bit of his process.

like this
http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=219
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>>50173784
Those are display models, why wouldn't they be painted?

>>50173809
It's a collection of parts you dingus, of course it's not going to look like the final model.
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>>50173809
>>50173784
Are you maybe a little bit thick?
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>>50173687
Warcors have no kum cycle.

>>50173741
Caledonia has no kum.
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>>50173179
>>50174835
No Kum cycle for the warcor, but he/she can totally document those sick stunts though.
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>>50173179
Seriously though, is there even room in the deployment zone for that list?
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>>50173088
Skirmishes over resources/secrets/feuds in the future in black ops operations. I think it's set about 175 years in the future. Everyone travels through wormholes and spaceships and stuff. There are some 12 habitable planets. Aliens and artificial intelligence are here too.

Asuras might be up your alley for skintight suits, as are most of the TAG pilots, and the Caledonian Volunteer.
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>>50172616
Nice last three digits.

Are you the same guy who shitposted about Haqqislam vs MRRF during the bombing in Paris?

Because god damn it did I first learn about the Bataclan Theatre attack in the infinity general.

>>50172784
Forced meme name John Oliver tried to make for the current president elect of the united states.
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>>50175430
If you try hard enough...

IĀ“d love to play a game against a guy with that setup.
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>>50175430
>>50175534
It's going to be an ARO free-fire zone on the first few turns, that's for sure.
That list needs a LOT of terrain to hide that many models.
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>>50175557
>not bringing a horde of some other warband and going full D-day on each other
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>>50175634
True, I imagine a 60ish person band of Kuang Shi with the bare minimum of other models could be a hilarious opponent.
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>>50172900
>army builder apk
This is news to me.
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Is there still no red veil scan? Or is Icestorm still up to date? A friend and I want to try the game on Tabletop Simulator or Vassal before jumping in.
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>>50175816
Yeah, Red Veil did not invalidate Icestorm. Although Red Veil is slightly better because of more interesting terrain and wider selection of weapons.
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>>50175816
Icestorm uses the same edition of the basic rules as Red Veil
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>>50176537
>>50176541
Good, thank anons.
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Polish Independence Day is this Friday.
Uhlan giveaway anyone? Or will they go full retard and make it about Teutons because Knights of Dobrzyń.
Although I wouldn't mind if there were some studio-painted examples of alternate colour schemes.
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>>50177466
If toots then they better fix the fucking profile and linkability in mo
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>>50178074

Looks really good, great colours!

Here's another model I was working on recently.
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>>50173772
Australia has a great infinity scene. Where are you?
Most gaming stores I've seen stock infinity.
Online local wise we have combat company and toy soldier imports.
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>>50178510
It's dead in Adelaide, but Melbourne and Sydney have great scenes.
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>>50175506
>guy who shitposted about Haqqislam vs MRRF during the bombing in Paris?
This I gotta read. Link?
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In light of recent events how's the infinity scene in Toronto?
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>>50178811
You dont want to come to toronto ameriburger
Trust me
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>>50178811
Recent events? Was there a law passed banning degrading images of Islam?
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>>50178811
It's too hard to immigrate to Canada, you might want to see if you have any German expatriates from 1933-1945 in your family, or any sort of legacy citizenship in another country, or see if you're jewish enough to move to Israel. Heck, it's probably easier to move to Mexico, they do actually receive a lot of illegal american immigrants and the cost of living is cheap there.
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>>50178848
>>50179006

I have dual citizenship, I was just curious how the gaming scene is.
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>>50178811

Come to Australia. It might actually be pretty easy.

http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2016/05/17/want-migrate-australia-2016-17-skilled-occupations-list-sol-announced
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>>50178585
What are the adelaide guys playing now? Still lots of 40k or has there been a push into x wing or something?
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>>50178811
You can come down to Mexico if you want.
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>>50180150
Seems like a good idea, maybe that anon could even visit Corvus Belli's HQ
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>>50180150
Didn't apply for triple citizenship
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>>50180178
Sure, just don't come between 1 and 3pm that's siesta time.
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Kind of wish they would redo the JSA starter. Current scale models are limited to the Domaru, Ninja from TV, and HRL Raiden. Wish they redid the JSA Starter.
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>>50178510
Where can i buy it? i'm in melbourne
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>>50173784
Well, I thought infinity was prepainted, but I can't say why. I definitely didn't think that because models on the store are painted, because lol, wow.

Seriously, having unpainted metal miniatures on a website is asking for trouble.
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Would it be completely out of character to write up a well-funded multi-faction Bureau Noir chapter that's competent and aren't swayed by interfactional bickering and black ops? I know the RPG encourages heavy backstabbing, but I just want to have a story about a motley band of soldiers, spies, and mercenaries deciding that politics is pointless in the face of getting raped by Morats.
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>>50181201
To be fair, their painter is super fucking good - I haven't seen a Winter Vixen so far that matched the one on the site's preview pics.
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>>50181185
Mind games in the CBD stocks a fair bit upstairs, they have representatives from all factions and a few other accessories.

Combat company has competitive prices and reliable quick shipping, so they're also a fantastic option especially if the locals don't have the specific models you're looking for.
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>>50181244
You could get away with making one, the Human Sphere's a big place. Maybe have it be the pet project of a hyperelite guy who against all odds is actually sensible, and just wants his jobs done without political bullshit getting in the way.
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>>50181244
>I know the RPG encourages heavy backstabbing
Does it? I've not gotten that impression.
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>>50181300
It's the Wilderness of Mirrors, with the faction goals that are usually at odds with one another/
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>>50181244
in the released material where it talks about the "wilderness of mirrors" which is the backstabbery mechanic, it talks about the varying levels and the first two are just "ignore this" to represent single faction teams, where the whole team has a single bonus obj depending on what faction they are and teams that are legit on the same page, where you either ignore the faction missions or where everyone is open about side jobs their faction may have asked them to do.
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>>50181261
Mindgames? that store look tiny as fuck. Also their website is really shitty
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>>50181461
it's small, but they have an upstairs as well where they keep their wargaming stuff. Also brick and mortar stores in general don't have much stock of any one game from my experience unless you specifically want to support a particular store and get them to order you stuff in, you're better off shopping online. postage inside Aus isn't usually that bad, especially between capital cities.
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Noob with smoke here.

Say I have a bao in suppressive fire, a shaolin in front of him, and a fusilier walks into los of both of them.

The bao has msv2 and the shaolin has smoke grenades.

The bao declares suppressive fire and the shaolin declares special dodge smoke.
-The smoke is placed so it blocks los to both the shaolin and bao.

What should the fusilier do?
-If it just shoots the bao, and the shaolin's smoke is not a ftf roll, does it get applied and block the fusiliers shots if he passes?
-If the fusilier splits burst between the two and the shaolin wins the ftf roll, does the smoke also block shots to the bao?
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So it's like warhammer but weeb?
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>>50181578
More like necromunda mixed with xcom and ghost in the shell. Weebness depends on the faction you play
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>>50181577
All effects of an order are resolved simultaneously at the end of the order. The smoke only exists once the order is completed.

The smoke grenade will not block any shots at the Bao that order but it will make any shot against the monk ftf.
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>>50181623
OK, so the only shots the smoke can block is from the one with it? So the special dodge is dodging only shots to the person throwing smoke?

Can you special dodge with other kinds of smoke like nimbus or zero vis?
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>>50181578
In an extremely broad sense, I guess. But it's a lot smaller scale with individual infantrymen rather than squads and tanks, has several unique mechanics like AROs and isn't balanced by a pack of monkeys in a boardroom. There's definitely anime influence in the aesthetic but there's other stuff mixed in as well.

>>50181577
Smoke only takes effect after the order has been completed. It doesn't do anything to the fusi yet.
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>>50181636
Only if they have the trait. So eclipse grenades can, nimbus can't.
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>>50181109
So does many others. For me the JSA starter is the reason I don't play JSA.
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>>50181185
Like I said the good online options are combat company and toy soldier imports.

But it's always good to support locals stores. Eastern side has house of war, which is a great place with tons of tables. Mind games in the CBD. Not sure if Milsims stocks infinity but they are eastish as well.
Games by the beach in frankston looks like they might have some infinity stuff but can't be sure.

Also the universities, La Trobe and Monash have gaming clubs. If you are near there could pop in for a game and see what local stores they have.
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>>50181461
It's not huge but they have an ok selection. If you're looking for a fuck off huge bricks and mortar store with most of the range house of war out near ringwood is pretty good.
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>>50181109
Slowly but steadily they'll get to it. Don't forget though, Yuriko and the Raiden Spitfire are also to the scale.

And in my opinion, the Haramaki aren't that bad in comparison either because of their poses being hunched over and their armour matching the details of the 3-D sculpted ones so they count in my book
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>>50178116
Is that some sort of blood effect on the helmet and head?
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>>50181109
Yeesh, meant RV.
>>50181934
I wonder when and what will be in the new one..
>>50182705
What would you like to see in the new Starter?

Something like what SAA/Bakunin got or the more traditional box?
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Played my third game today, vs my brother. He plays a full camo ariadna army. And once again I got kicked in the ass hard. Till now I played the steel phalanx sectorial, but it seems like it is too weak vs camo list, unless am wrong here. But if I am right, would playing vanila aleph be better? I just can't deal with 9-10 camo units with so many specialists, and so much stuff ignoring ODD, and having shock ammo.
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>>50183698
Your brother sounds like a complete shitter. There's only so much switching army can do, camo spam isn't so much strong against SP as it is strong against new players. Direct templates (especially mines), MSV and sensor are very useful.

What's ignoring ODD in Ariadna? Only direct templates can completely bypass it, and there aren't that many of those on camo dudes (apart from mines). They don't get any MSV2 at all.
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>>50183601
>What would you like to see in the new Starter?
Obviously three Keisotsu base. What I would hope would be just a straight up resculpt as I think the contents of the box in terms of profiles is fine.

Otherwise, I would expect and hope for:

3 Keisotsu, 1 Shikami for the obligatory HI (and to hopefully fill the missing model(s)), to replace the Oniwaban (which I don't see getting resculpted) would be another Ninja in the line of Red Veil, probably a KHD or a combi rifle that can stand in for AHD, and the sixth model would be a wildcard. Hopefully they wouldn't be dumb and not include a decent Lt option, I can see it maybe being the Kempeitai, but for some reason I don't think CB would make another model for them, it'd probably be a sniper Raiden as CB seems to like to oblige a sniper in the starters.
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>>50183698
Question, how often are you in suppressive fire?
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Something which came up in a recent game; if a Kuang Shi activates Explode whie next to a model under a camoflague marker, does the model have to attempt dodge or make an ARM roll (and thus be revealed)?

Also - does anything happen if the Celestial Guard with the Kuang Shi Control Device dies during a game?

Side note - I severely underestimated how powerful Kuang Shi were. 200 point game and my opponent used 3 of them to thoroughly ruin my day, I think only two of my units *didn't* die to them in the end. Admittedly he was atrociously lucky with his ARM, Discover and Dodge rolls but even so.

In hindsight I should have done a coordinated-supressive fire on first turn, I miscalculated my order usage. Any other advice for dealing with them? I was playing vanilla Haqqislam.
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>>50183913
>Something which came up in a recent game; if a Kuang Shi activates Explode whie next to a model under a camoflague marker, does the model have to attempt dodge or make an ARM roll (and thus be revealed)?

Yes. You can't hide from explosion.
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>>50183930
Thought that might be the case - he ended up winning FtF Intuitive Attack with his chain rifle anyway, so it didn't end up mattering, but I'll make sure the player knows that next game.
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>>50183789
he has a ton of flamers, and mines. I have 1, sometimes 2 agama, can't fit more msv models in 200pts. My army is small anyway, I have 9-10 orders, when he has around 14-15. If I go first and he drops me to 7-8, it gets realy brutal.

>>50183890
not very offten. First turn I normaly try to move my myrmidon link and protect stuff with smoke, second I try to clear his units off objectives. my agama are offten end up dead to his spetznas. But the worse is when he moves turn one drops 4 mines on one of the two objective, recamos and then camps other objective.

the 4 objective mission is impossible to do for me. I have one FO. one hacker and machon, and my brothers list has like 6-7 FO .
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>>50183980
>teaching the game with a 15 order camospam list at 200 points while not allowing the underresourced new player to proxy units in order to test them
Wew. Anon's brother confirmed shitter.
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>>50183980
Yea sorry about that but your brother sounds like a complete jerk. I don't get why it's so common, especially in Infinity, for experienced players to brutally fuckfist newbies, like it's not even fun or in any way satisfying to beat a new player. Guess they get some kind of kick out if it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVCOblKgKM

Vol 2 seems to be improved over 1; especially with regards to techniques instead of just 'I did this then this'
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>>50183954
>FtF
>Chain rifle
>FtF
>CHAIN
>RIFLE
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>>50184226
Isn't that how it would have worked? He declared Intuitive Attack (a WIP roll), in response the target camo'd unit declared BS Attack (Boarding Shotgun), so FtF of his WIP vs. my BS.

We're both pretty new at this so genuinely asking if we got this wrong.
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>>50184140
I hope so, I have it on order. :)
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>>50184255
Attacking breaks cammo, which means the target is already discovered, which means it's a template attack, which means it's not a face to face.
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>>50183698
>>50183980
>opponent's third game
>full camospam
>14-15 orders in 200pt list
Damn, your brother sounds like a tremendous cunt.

>does not allow newbie opponent to proxy
Tremendous cunt status confirmed.
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>>50184332
But, then, you get a FtF in the opposite situation, if the dude declares an intuitive attack and the cammo dude responds.
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>>50184061
"But anon, don't you know that the actual source of pleasure in competitive sports is seeing the opponent get brutalized? Everybody knows that equal-level matches are boring!"
What happened to that faggot btw?
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>>50184399
>>50184332
It was the latter situation - was my opponents turn, he declared Intuititve Attack, I responded with BS attack since I figured point-blank shotgun at a coverless target was better odds than just hoping he failed his WIP roll. So looks like we had it right.
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>>50183980
Yeah, bringing 14-15 orders vs a new player in 200 pts and specifically taking units that work around SP advantages is kind of harsh. That kind of order count discrepancy is normal (it is an elite faction vs cheap faction); ask him to play Limited Insertion until you get a better understanding of the rules. Also try finding other people who play for some friendly training games. Best would be you and another newbie supervised by an experienced player.
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>>50184399
How does this work through smoke? Does anyone get the -6? What if one party has a visor?
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Any news about manga? Will they dare to add Haqq in the story?
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>>50184436
What is limited instartion? My problem with finding other people to play is that to play someone outside of family he or my dad would have to take me to the store, and my brother doesn't want to be seen with me.
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>>50184919
What exactly is the deal with your brother?

Kinda sounds like heĀ“s older and youĀ“re a young kid, and heĀ“s trying to annoy you out of this. I can understand it, younger siblings are always annoying and you never want them getting into your group of friends, but on the other hand he could be less dickish about it all...

CanĀ“t you take public transport or anything? Maybe find a different shop where itĀ“s played?
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>>50184971
Well he is older, and we do have different mothers. Plus am not male, so going out aint that easy to pull of for me. I can't realy go out alone to a shop full of man without someone from family with me, my mother and aunts would go bonkers, if I proposed that.
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>>50185035
Lel, where the fuck do you live? Lithuania?
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Dual Wield question: do both weapons have to be CCW specifically, or can they be any weapons that have the CC trait? For example, can a Shikami dual wield a DACCW and a knife, getting a DA+Shock effect?
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>>50184919
Limited insertion just means "no more than 10 orders/models"
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>>50185199
Oh that would be cool. Ill ask him, if we can play a game like that.
>>50185141
Poland, but my family is from Chechnya.
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>>50185220
Psht! You can't speak the name of that country in here..
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>>50185220
It's been mentioned earlier, but just to say it again. Camo often gives newbies trouble, particularly when it's in overwhelming numbers like what you're seeing. It's easy to use, but not, in the long run, more powerful. Don't worry, you'll figure out the tricks and traps you can use to beat it.
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That Tuareg and Hsien seem awfully close to each other. Can love bloom on the battlefield?
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>>50186151
Certainly.
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>>50184685
If the Camo model reacts to an Intuitive Attack by Shooting, they take a -6, or they Dodge on a +0. It will be Face to Face, and either party can crit. You can even apply Surprise Shot if you are the Intuitive Attacker and you started the Order as a marker. See: Chasseur LFT, Dasyu Nanopulser, etc.
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>>50186151
You can see her face, that marks her as a whore by true Islam standards. I highly doubt she will ever be loved by a man.
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>>50187247
It's OK, she's Tuareg. Now if she were a man...
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>>50184919
>>50185035
Okay, it sounds like you're both either very young (being ashamed of younger siblings is a very immature thing to do ā€“ I was a middle child) or it's some weird hang up either with your family history or a Chechenyan custom. Yeah, going to a shop full of 20-35 year old men as a kid would be weird, as an adult it sounds again more like some backwards cultural thing, especially in Poland where women are very emancipated (to the point a lot of young men are intimidated by them). Miniature wargamers are usually very laid back here, if someone is more tense it's because he's tryharding to win the game, not trying to "score chicks". And if a guy is making you uncomfortable, tell him that. If he doesn't back off, ask some other guy for help.

I guess your best bet is to study the rules thoroughly so you know how everything works, and just practice. I've been playing for over a year now, so far I've won two games. And one of those was against a guy newer than me. Losing in games when you're new is normal.

Steel Phalanx is very strong once you get a handle on them though. Also don't be afraid to let your units die, some are specifically designed to simply try and kill as much as they can before inevitably dying; Diomedes even has this as his backstory.

Also tell your bro to nut up and stop being ashamed of you in public. No one cares if you're from the same mother or not. I've got two nieces, one out of wedlock. She's a cute upbeat young girl and no one cares my brother didn't marry her mother, despite both families being very conservative.

Warsaw here btw.
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>>50187930
Is that phrased weird? Or maybe I just have a really laid back family, despite their conservative standing.
Yeah, I guess in many families, especially rural ones, that kind of thing would cause unspeakable drama.

Side note: there's no "old nobility" in Poland, the Soviets made sure of that.
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>>50188025
I read it as "My brother didn't want to marry my sister after siring a baby with her." Deleted it on account of realizing that was not what you posted.
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>>50187849
my brother is 31, I am younger but am not that young to count as a child anymore. And I know how Poland is, I have lived here since the late 90s. Practicly born here, considering I was 2 months old when we got here. I would like to avoid having problems with my mom or aunts, all girls, or younger, in my age group already have problems with "dressing" the wrong way, and "why aren't you married, I had 2 children at your age already and your aunt had 3"etc.

Plus there are some dangers walking around the town. Now I personaly never had real problems, but sometimes Bialystok is not a nice place to live in. I hope to go to Warsaw after I finish the nursing school here. Will be living with one of my younger aunts and her brother.
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>>50188040
nah that was my dad. didn't want to marry my mom, in fact he didn't want to marry anyone after his first wife died durning the war. But he somehow got my mom pregnant, and it was easier for a family to stay in Poland, then a man with a young son, and a woman with a young daughter separate.
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>>50188485
>I can't realy go out alone to a shop full of man without someone from family with me
>Not allowed to go to places where young men gather
>why aren't you married
Gee, I wonder why.
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>>50188485
>Bialystok
Again?
There was a Polish anon complaining about shitty houserules in a store in Bialystok.
Now if you're an adult in a nursing school, you should try getting in touch with Warsaw Infinity community if you're still into the game. Polish Warcor is located in Warsaw and he's very good at teaching the game and easing people into the community.
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>>50188556
Well am not married, because the "ideal" man as imagined by my mom and my aunts lives back in the old country. That is why I never fell for the visit the grandparents-because they are on their death bad-trick.

>>50188628
That I actualy have no info on, as I have never been to the store. I am planing to move to Warsaw soon. If I pass all my exams, and save up enough money, it could be as soon as summer.
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>>50188628
>There was a Polish anon complaining about shitty houserules in a store in Bialystok.
Wasn't the "we don't like Americans/Arabs/French around here so fuck off with those factions" stormnigger from Bialystok as well? One wonders what kind of shithole that place must be.
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>>50189156
That was a Lithuanian troll. Lithuanians hate Poles with a passion. Pic related was from a Lithuanian vid.
Funnily enough Poles don't really have strong feelings about them aside from mild historic sympathy.
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>>50187247
>that marks her as a whore by true Islam standards
Suffi sects (who founded haqq) mostly don't care and if I remember correctly some of tuareg's tribes allowed their woman to walk with open face and hair untill 20/21 century.
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>>50189797
The different tribes and more distant cultural groups which converted to Islam each interpret "protect your women" in light of their own customs.
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Where do I cry to get my TAG tier doggos in heavy armor? Preferably with good BS and big guns.


Cheap warband doggos are fine and all, but I'm pretty sure any other faction would be sore if all their high wound options were extreme impetuous disposeable meelee guys.
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>>50190192
Ever tried putting on an uncomfortable leash on a Dog? They'll just scratch that right off as soon as they can.

Besides, what's wrong with Armour 3 or 4 that a lot HI get anyways?
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>>50187247
Well Haqqislam is proudly ashamed of that and made a council composed only by women to compensate

Tariqa, High Rank Counselor

The Tariqas are the highest-ranking counselors and advisers of the Hachib, the President of Haqqislam. They form a special advisory council with significant influence over matters of security and clearance privileges outranked only by the Hachib and the Hassassin Old Man of the Mountain.

As per Haqqislamite tradition, only women may hold this rank and join the inner circle of personal advisers to the Hachib. The honorific ā€˜Tariqaā€™ connotes these womenā€™s profound wisdom and ample knowledge, but their role goes beyond that of passive repositories of erudition; Tariqas regularly act as spokeswomen of the Hachib and representatives of Haqqislam before the O-12 Ɩberhaus and other international organizations.
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>>50190283
A lot of HI with 3 or 4 armor can take cover, which makes that armor higher and harder to pierce. Impetuous 3 or 4 armor may as well be regular 0 or 1.
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>>50185220
>Poland
Every time we hear about anything from Poland in these threads, it's somebody asking for help with some turbocunt who's ruining the game. Is Poland just a land of fuckwits and the few decent people who have to put up with them?

Pass your exams and try to go somewhere less terrible. Maybe you can take off your family's leash and go meet the Infinity community in Warsaw on your own.
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>>50190632
>Is Poland just a land of fuckwits and the few decent people who have to put up with them?
Yes
And every fuckwit believes they're one of the few decent people.
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>>50161766
Can we preorder the manga yet?
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New and fairly bad.

Let me know how badly I fucked this up, I stripped him twice already.
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>>50191201
Are you using primer? That looks like a no primer result.
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>>50191293
Yes, sadly, I wasn't sure how to do the sword and will probably go over the thin bit of red.
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>>50191201
>atleastitsnotbaremetal/10

Good news is you chose some decent colors. Dark blue and grey to offset the vibrant red/gold. Looks like you have some color gradient going where its bluest in the middle and then blacker towards the top and bottom.

Did you try to go for a battle damaged look or did you fuck up the helmet and gun that badly? Is that paint or glue on the sword? It looks like a freshly used bad dragon toy.

So far it looks like your biggest enemy is brush control and applying paint evenly. This comes with practice. If you have shaky hands, the more points of contact your arms/hands/fingers have, the better off and steadier you will be.

I recommend heading over to /WIP/, grab all the info you can.
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>>50191357
>>50191370

>No primer

Oh boy. Always prime. Did you wash and scrub it? That helps as well. Granted you said you stripped it twice already so the mold release agent is probably not a factor anymore.

Are you using decent paint? How are your brushes?
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>>50191370
The weapons I hadn't done yet, I was looking for feed back before continuing or just tossing it to get stripped again, put a base of grey down on the gun and started on the sword before deciding to stop. The white is just primer under a -very- thin coat.

The drybrush was a bit too much.

>So far it looks like your biggest enemy is brush control and applying paint evenly
Very much aware of that, still working on it.

>>50191442
Yes, used purple power to strip, washed with warm water and scrubbed with a toothbrush, then a needle to clean the crevices.

Was recommended Vallejo and just got a set of cheaper brushes to ruin as I try to git gud.
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>>50191201
>>50191357
>I wasn't sure how to do the sword and will probably go over the thin bit of red.
Plain silver or one of the darker grey metallics, yes. Bloody blades have a place in painting minis, but are surprisingly difficult to get right.

Consider differentiating the exo-muscle cording from the armor plates.

Consider washes or inks instead of standard paints. As it is, you'll be working to bring the details back into visibility. With washes and inks, they do much of that work for you.
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>>50191529
It was more that partway through I thought it would be -too- red and was thinking of doing a more jadey green and stopped.

>ink
I did, did I water it down too much?
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>>50191501
Alright looks like you have a pretty good idea of how this all goes about, just practice. Experiment with colors and thinning your paints to see how they react and flow.

You did good on paint and the brushes are new, even new cheapo brushes are good for practice.

Also did you mount that on anything while painting it? Many people pin the mini to a cork/old paint pot/etc for better grip and stability.
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>>50191541
>ink
>I did, did I water it down too much?
Watering down inks is fraught with hazards, irreproducible results, and disappointment.
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>>50191609
I feel embarrassed to say that this is my best work :c

I didn't, I actually let it rest in the palm of my left hand or pinching it by the gun or betweenlegsprue.

>>50191752
Oh. I'll keep that in mind,|

Should I just try again?
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Why is ariadna's teseum powered future tech worse than modern technology?

>Can't into drones
>Can't into close quarters rifles
>Can't into powered exoskeletons
>Can't into combined arms

They went into space with future tech and ended up with 1940s tier technology, how? I understand that they did not get to share advancements with the entire world, I understand they spent some 100 years getting established. But, what the fuck happened to the other 50+ years afterwards? Are we to assume they landed with mid 1800s tech? That the ship had no archives with the accumulated human knowledge up until they left? Like, what the fuck, mang? One thing is to be the backwards faction with unconventional fighting tactics, another is to not even have fucking m14 or m4 equivalents.
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>>50191981
>I feel embarrassed to say that this is my best work :c

Dont be, everyone starts at the bottom, the only place to go is up. Just keep at it, save that picture and then look back at it a few months from now and see how much you have improved.
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>>50192009
>>Can't into drones
They had muls.
>>Can't into powered exoskeletons
Excuse me, but who using exoskeletons in army today?
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>>50192080
Modern armies have experimental models. The japanese have a commercial model that lacks in the agility department.

The world that sent the dawn expedition was significantly more advanced than our own.
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>>50192089
>Modern armies have experimental models
Yeah and most of them are american f-35 tier projects.
>The world that sent the dawn expedition was significantly more advanced than our own.
Yeah and according to fluff Ariadna doesn't have a lot of time and resources to focusing on the military exosuits program. Even richer Haqqislam have exosuits only for most elite troops.
Meanwhile muls are much more useful than some dat.
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>>50192009
>what are Traktor Muls

Modern rifles are not combis, they're rifles. Combi rifles work well at close range because of advanced technology which not even Haqq can afford to mass produce, let alone Ariadna.

Their HI has powered exoskeletons, they're just not advanced enough to hack and nowhere near as good as everybody else's. That's why they're still effected by E/M.

The reason they don't get a TAG equivalent is because TAGs are made for the kind of skirmishes Infinity is based around. They can be deployed by dropship relatively quickly and discreetly, and they work well in urban environments. A tank, not so much.
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>>50190632
Well I like poland much better imo, then the old country, for me that is. Maybe there is less opportunity for guys to make big money, but for women of the younger sort it is better. Plus I'll just like to point out that my family ain't polish. And my parents are rather liberal. I can wear mostly what I want, do what I want, and they have nothing against me living in Warsaw with my aunt and her brother.
With Trump wining, and the whole muslim wave, in europe, am not sure I would be welcome in UK.
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>>50192089
>posts shitty Japanese HAL instead of the Exo Sarcos 2 or HULC.
Christ, anon.
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>>50192144
I would have more respect for traktor muls if they had a proper variety of loadouts. As it is, they can only equip rockets, which just makes them an artillery piece.

>>50192149
Modern rifles are designed to engage in close quarters. If combis are so much more advanced, then old assault rifles would have a slightly elongated first band and +0 and penalties afterwards, rather than being mid range. The current rifles in the game are fucking garands in application. WWI hardware, fuck.

>Their HI has powered exoskeletons, they're just not advanced enough to hack and nowhere near as good as everybody else's. That's why they're still effected by E/M.
I'll believe it. If only because it makes Ariadna less laughable by modern standards.

And I don't want TAGs. Mecha, unlike the other stuff I mentioned, are not being actively developed by anyone today. The Only TAG-like equivalent that Ariadna could feasibly develop in-house would be a tiny, highly maneuverable tank. That, or trade mining rights in some backwards antipode infested corner of their world for loads of dosh and just buy them.
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>>50192210
HAL is a commercially available product that can be bought by any faggot.
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>>50192301
Oh, thought you were using it as an example of in-development military exoskeletons. If you were just referring to shit that settlers could grab on the way out, yeah.

I must have misread.
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>>50191201
Not that hard:
1. Prime
Not too much, buy a primer in black so all the shadows are already dark (I prefer citadel chaos black) , prime from the side and go around with a distance about 30 cm(also from the top and bottom, not too close, otherwise you will fill the details, it might look like it would at the beginning but when it drys it will be smooth, (when there are some gaps that are not Primed thin down some black paint, and paint it black you have now a base to work on

2. Layers
You should also try using layers to paint you minis, by that I mean that you first decide where to use what color and take a darker tone of that color , for example, you want the Cape to be green, so you take some dark green tone, and base color the Cape, then you you a second layer paint in this example normal green, and paint it with that green tone, but don't over paint the darker tone, there will be gaps that you don't want to paint lighter be cause they are too deep so color will not be so intense there, at last take a even lighter tone and highlight all the "higher parts" of the Cape with thin lines

I might suck at explaining this so
>pic related

>inb4 not infinity spam
Shut up, it's a good example
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>>50192398
I actually did prime, but in white, I thought it would make the red pop more. Used a tamiya white fine surface primer that the hobby shop had, should I look to a more dedicated miniatures primer?

>layering
Thanks for the pic, Its labeled step-1, is there more to this, or should I just be concerned with getting the basics down before looking into more?
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>>50192565
you should get a miniature primer, never use hobby shop primer, like i mentioned, the citadel primer is very good, or try the army painter one (this one is very very thin)

the picture is named step1 because i took the first pic from google to show you,

but the next step could be inking to create shadows, i recommend the

>Army Painter Dark Tone Ink

it is very thin paint, with less pigments, you should ink after base coloring so you should do the flowing order:
>1. prime
>2. base color
>3. ink
>4. highlights
>5. (Optional) glaze
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I'm confused.
Is this a reference to Polish players being top tier and thus winning a lot of ITS Season minis?
Is this implying that Polish are ape-like criminals shunned by their own kind?
Is this a reference to Krakow hooligans who run around with machetes (because Krakot and Krakow are similar)?
Or is it simply because white + red are Polish colours?
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>>50193071
There's no actual Polish units, so they probably just grabbed whatever alien unit was convenient.
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>>50193104
There's one with a reference to a Polish unit.
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>>50193112
They'd have to split a box for that.
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>>50193197
Which is what they should have done in the first place.
They already sold Toni as a separate Tikbalang, even if it was an event thing.

Whatever, if I could get Krakot in a raffle I'd be happy. One of my friends has one and he said he'd give it to me if I can beat him in a best of 5. I've played him twice since then and lost both times...
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>>50192838
>Army Painter Dark Tone Ink
Can't recommend this enough. I recently made the switch from Vallejo washes and the AP dark tone is a definite improvement, it flows better, doesn't pool as much, dries matte without patches. Pigment quality looks better too, Vallejo really dropped the ball in their washes line imo.
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>>50193112
Isnt there a nomad chick that comes from Poland?
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>>50193418
Carlota Kowalsky? She has a Polish name, but is a Mestizo. They could have used her though.
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>>50193269
wash is not an ink ;D
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>>50191981
>Should I just try again?

Yes. Pin it on a base or something. Gold/metallics on clothes doesn't go well. Just try to use as few colours as you can, max 3 (excluding the gun), but preferably 2.

Do this:

primer->basecoat->shade->highlight 1->highlight 2

watch the first 12 videos of this:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB0292071C3B38CAC
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>>50193071
I'll take all of the above.

It should have been an American Veteran's day giveaway.
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>>50193618
yeah but the AP "inks" are barely inks, they're washes for all purposes and act pretty much the same as other brands' wash lines. Inks in my mind are things like the old citadel "black ink" and others, they behave completely different to the AP ones.
But I guess it's all semantics, all that matters is that Dark Tone is a goddamn good product.
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>>50193071
I don't give a fuck, they're giving out the LE variant.
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Tell me of the models that swayed you to buying a starter.

I'm talking the Al-Fasid, Oniwaban, Father Knight, Mobile Brigada, Zhanying ML, those guys you liked the look and rules of and were the main reason you liked the starter.
>>
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>>50194058
It's not just veterans day in the US it's tons of places.
And it could have been disrespectful in some way maybe.
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>>50194231
A dude selling it for about a 3rd retail value including postage.
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>>50194231
Zhayedan, purely for looks. It's what persuaded me to start Haqq and preemptively Rama, since I already liked Naffatun and Maggie and I was playing YJ anyway.

The new Montesa likely would count, but I'm too poor right now.
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>>50194231
Hsien HMG from YJ Red Veil, I like him gameplay-wise and the majestic model is very fitting of the character. The addition of the sweet tacbow ninja is what sealed the deal.
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>>50191981
>Should I just try again?
I know a local Infinity player who uses black and red whenever possible. He *used* to be a decent painter.

The combination is not for every model, and even making black look good by itself takes work.

Consider backing away from the big guy and try learning on the RV Zhanshi or Tiger instead.
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>>50192565
>I actually did prime, but in white, I thought it would make the red pop more. Used a tamiya white fine surface primer that the hobby shop had, should I look to a more dedicated miniatures primer?
>>50192838
One of the best painters I know swears by "hobby shop" primers.
Primers do need to fit the project, but in our hobby that still gives plenty of options. GW is overly expensive. On metal models even the dollar can of mat black from Home Depot will work, though I usually use the $4 Rustoleum in white.

The one primer type to definitely avoid is the automotive stuff. It is not meant to prep a surface for acrylics, and is intended to be sanded with power tools. Stay away.
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>>50194684
Or the Multi Rifle Zuyong who's garbage (if not proxying).
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>>50194719
I've seen a horror story where a guy used car primer and red enamel paints to make his Ogre Kingdom models a big mess of glossy shiny bright green and red "blood" effects.
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>>50193071
>>50194191

Are these for sale right now? I'm aware that this model was in the ITS winner pack last year, how can I get my paws on this damn dirty ape?
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>>50195006
http://store.infinitythegame.com/articulo.php?o=3&b=krakot&id=2651

You can get the SMG one.
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"The members of this regiment are easily identified by the identification numbers that adorn their combat suits and which are always visible beneath the heavy camouflage patterns."

The numbers are there but what kind of planet has bright orange as camouflage?

Come to think of it, what are some other units that were painted differently to what's described in the fluff. ORCs are one, IIRC, should be "grotesque" creature design over I think olive green camo.
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>>50195524
There you go annon.
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>>50195524
>ORCs are one, IIRC, should be "grotesque" creature design over I think olive green camo.
That was specifically Paradiso ORCs IIRC. Generic ORCs are still plain blue and Varuna ORCs are pic related.
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>>50195524
Wouldn't be too bad on Mars. There's some red deserts on Earth but I don't think any are that kind of orange.
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>>50195030
I mostly want the LE one for the do-rag Morat head
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>>50195686
Single color desert camouflage is usually a shade of pink though.
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>>50195524
All heavy armor has minor active camo, it turns dull once they get into combat. Likewise TAGs
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>>50195815
Where is that said?
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>>50195945
Basic rulebook, at least in N2, i donĀ“t remember the page.
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What's so scary about Jammers on Ghazi Muttawi'ah? You're still alive when you're isolated.
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>>50195604
Is that a Maru ?
>>50195749
there are deserts of many colors. stone ones are offten black/dark, those with iron sand are red, while others can be anything from sandy grey to pink.
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>>50196466
If your hackable, then your also imobilised If I remember right , and those little 5 pts fuckers can do it from prone position. there are like super haywire mines, that move and drops smoke.
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>>50196466

Because a 5 point disposable figure just rendered a figure 2-25 times it's value nearly worthless.
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>>50196466
Alive is not the same thing as useful. Unless it's an ARO platform, that unit has just been completely gimped for the rest of the game.
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>>50196480
Don't forget Arctic deserts.

>>50196495
I haven't seen any rule to the effect that hackables get immobilized if isolated. Maybe you can point me to that?

As far as I know, you still get an action to yourself in the next turns, sure it might stop you in your tracks but next turn and after I wouldn't think it makes the model isolated "worthless."
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>>50196495
>>50196686
I see where you're conflating the rule from. E/M ammunition immobilizes HI, TAG, and REM, but it's not from the isolated state imposed from Jammers themselves, it looks like, as they're not E/M.
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>>50196466
Ability to neuter high power models outside of LOF. They also can intuitive attack out of LOF on wip 15. That is on top of the smoke, emarat, and chain rifles. On dogged 5 point models.

It's more of the complete package thing.
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>>50196466
Ghazi are probably the best unit in the game. I would still take them at 3 times their price.
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>>50197223
>>50196904
Well, I sure am glad I bought them on sale.
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>>50194231
Sogarat and Oznat. Big Morat guy with a big gun (4U) and a /fit/ Morat chick. What else do you need?
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>>50197458
Oznats make me feel funny.
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>>50197458
well it would be nice if they had some sort of home animal, like an alien dog/cat or something.
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>>50197659
... Like a hungries?
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>>50197586
They make me feel tingly in my no-no parts.
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Whom do you think is better between Leila and Zhuang?
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>>50198831
Leila. By miles. Can't beat the Halal Booty.
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>>50198831
Zhuang, he brings absolutely wonderful things to a CG core team that are otherwise unavailable like Number2, madtraps, flamethrower, and he's a specialist. The definition of toolbox unit.
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>>50197586
>>50197733

The zerats and rasyats need new models. I can't justify picking them up when the rest of my morats are the new hotness.
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>>50198831
Both are pretty good for 20 points and 0 SWC. I am partial to marksman rifles and breaker pistols or d-charges are always welcome, but Leila's KHD is very meh to me. Zhuang's combi on the other hand is kinda bland, but the LFT, the MadTraps and the skills are sweet, especially in a link.

Modelwise it's no contest, though. Zhuang's pose is sorta awkward and his squint doesn't help.
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>>50197586
>>50197733

The zerats and rasyats need new models. I can't justify picking them up when the rest of my morats are the new hotness.
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>>50199113
>>50199179

Dammit mobile
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Because we're in page 10 and past the bump limit I took the liberty to make a new thread:
>>50199178
>>50199178
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