Horus Heresy General /hhg/

>>50087086
First for 'Magnus did nothing, and this is wrong'

>>50087086
Y'know, whoever's in charge of naming the FW HH books is quite classy.

File: image.png (139KB, 500x438px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 500x438px

>>50087103
Maybe. Just maybe. Who knows? Not me.
>>50087160
Anyone have any guesses what Book 8 will be named?

>>50087103
This. Magnus just could not commit to one cause of action. Wants to surrender but doesn't tell his legion and home planet and lets them take all the punishment. Then decides he doesn't want to surrender after all when it is already way too late. Undecisive fuck.

>>50087160
If 'Inferno' was renamed 'Purgatory' then they'd get my vote, but not until then they could also call the WS book this

>>50087160
I don't there's one guy who's job is to name the books that come out every 8 months, when they can't afford a proofreader.
Nonetheless, I agree.
>>50087190
'Assassination' or 'Subterfuge' or something.

>>50087207
The next three books will be Purgatory Part One, Part Two, and Part Three respectively.

>>50087190
Book 8 : Half Life 3

File: 14907141_10202287805791817_3422798152420727491_n.jpg (122KB, 720x720px) Image search: [Google]

122KB, 720x720px

Iron Within.

So I'm going to continue building my setting, posted it here a while ago under the name astro-anon.

So its a binary star system, main planet of interest is a mechanicum forge world in a figure of eight orbit around both stars. It rotates in the plane of orbit, so the only two forges on the planet take up the entirety of both poles. Everything in between is taken up by massive solar panels spreading out from the equator. These provide massive amounts of power to both forges. The land beneath the solar panels is either wasteland or ruins, constantly dark or dim due to the solar panels above absorbing most of the incident light.

Since the outbreak of the heresy, one forge has sided with horus while the other remains loyal to mars and terra, and they fight it out in the darkness beneath the panels.

So what I'm still working on:
What else lives beneath the panels in the wasteland?
Why do the forges need so much power (outside of regular forgey forging)?
I'm not sure what else to throw in so any suggestions would be appreciated.

Other planet in the system is a pre-imperial/DaoT ruined world, or maybe some kind of artificial planetoid? Covered in traps, shellworld-style. Its located at one of the lagrange points as thats the only way I could think of logically including it in the system.

>>50087190
It probably won't be Book 8, but I figure when we get to Terra it might be called "Invasion".

>>50087309
Warp dammit, why does 'Iron Within, Iron Without' have to be so much catchier than 'Primarch Progenitor, for your glory and the glory of Him on earth!'?
Why don't the Imperial Fists get a catchy battlecry?

File: 1439845863532.png (102KB, 450x443px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 450x443px

>>50087333
>Not "Siege"

How do you guys model Dozer Blades on Land Raiders, Spartans, Sicarans etc., if at all?

File: 1474927053985.png (592KB, 717x504px) Image search: [Google]

592KB, 717x504px

>>50087361
Because the Fists suck.

>>50087086
Glad you're all/mostly better. Was worried I'd have to take your job again, and then I'd feel like a dick.

>>50087441
Damn you, beat me to it.

>>50087190
If it covers stuff like the Signus Prime, the Dangels and Scars, "Deception" would be a pretty good bet.

>>50087086
So Im confused about something, in order to play a loyalist contingent of a traitor legion (Specifically the "Death Eagles" the 34th Millenial of the Emperor's Children) am I forced to use the Orphans of Betrayal rite of war or am I allowed to use whichever ones I want?

>>50087190
>Anyone have any guesses what Book 8 will be named?
Dark Angels Players Go Home.

>>50087441
That'll be the book after Invasion. Then, following Siege, will come the final book in the HH series: Duel.

File: IF Breacher.png (609KB, 643x548px)

609KB, 643x548px

>>50087190
Did you ever lose control?

pic unrelated

>>50087464

>>50087473
It's just a stomach bug.
>>50087551
Nah. I don't think I ever lost control.

>>50087361
>Warp dammit, why does 'Iron Within, Iron Without' have to be so much catchier than 'Primarch Progenitor, for your glory and the glory of Him on earth!'?
Why don't the Imperial Fists get a catchy battlecry?
And that is in fact the shortened version. They have lots of zeal and it's hard for them to measure it once they get fired up, so they limit themselves to shaking hands at best. This was the original version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV727_YGAkQ
>This one's for you, (((Warmaster))) Horus. Special delivery from the Emperor and our Primarch Progenitor. Yeah, for his glory and the glory of Him on Earth. And all loyal mankind. Yeah, even Guilliman, he ain't so stuck up once you get t-

>>50087441
>HH: Siege
>Will probably focus on how the IWs were toppling down Terran fortifications, and IFs fighting back
Hnnnng.

File: How to IW.png (935KB, 782x661px)

935KB, 782x661px

>>50087592
Srry no can do

>>50087592
Yea, I would like to know also.

>>50087603
>HH : siege
>Where all traitor legions get awesome siege-y units
>except IW :^)

>>50087501
You can do whatever. Orphans of Betrayl is intended as a sort of bonus for mirror matches, basically.

File: why must you hurt me so.jpg (99KB, 723x691px)

99KB, 723x691px

>>50087640

>>50087592
Here you go!

- Prime Black
- Base Leadbelcher
- Layer Ironbreaker
- Nuln Oil wash
- Second wash of Nuln Oil
- Wash Agrax Earthshade
- Sponge on Ironbreaker on edges and armour
- Wash the mini again using Agrax Earthshade mixed with Lahmian medium
- Runefang Steel scratches

>>50087501
Nah, Orphans of Betrayal just has specific goodies for loyalist traitors. You can run loyalists with whatever rite you want.

File: Knight_Ops_by_MajesticChicken.jpg (534KB, 550x740px) Image search: [Google]

534KB, 550x740px

>>50087361
>Why don't the Imperial Fists get a catchy battlecry?

Just use Sigismund's motto

>No pity! No Remorse! No Fear!

>>50087668
Any pic of the final look?

File: absolutelydisloyal2.jpg (101KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

101KB, 600x450px

>>50087668
danke schon, herr anon! have some OC for your troubles

>>50087640
No, IW will get nice units, they're just variants of existing units and won't get actual models for them.

File: IMG_2733.jpg (156KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 1024x768px

>>50087696

>>50087698
>Not "Absolutely FUCK"
It's like you don't ram Alpha battlebarges.

>>50087715
Thanks a ton, good anon!

>>50087501
No, EC even have two loyalist characters, you just dont get Eidolon, Fulgrim or the Kakophoni and their RoW but you can just do any RoW thats not for traitors.

File: IMG_20161103_133241.jpg (2MB, 2448x3264px)

2MB, 2448x3264px

That feeling when family are visiting and can't keep their hands to themselves. I could glue the finger back fine but they mustve thrown away the vox antenna. This filled me with the most nerd rage I've experienced in a while.

>>50087765

Did you make sure to bury the bodies?

>>50087649
>>50087691
>>50087728
Sweet so can I use Maru Skara?

>>50087695
>No pity! No Remorse! No Fear!
>Not PUUUUUURRGING WITH MY KIN!!!!
>MY WOUNDS, THEY HAVE ALREADY HEALED
>FEAR, I DO NOT KNOW
>XENOOOOOOOOSSSS, YOUR FATE IS SEALED

>>50087765
Nah, leave it off, and make the area it should be seem battle damaged. It looks interesting and distinctive at the moment.

File: purging with my kin.webm (2MB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 800x450px

>>50087829
>>50087824
Yes you can

>>50087829
>Not PUUUUUURRGING WITH MY KIN!!!!

That's for the lunatics though (ie. the Black Templars) if I remember my "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device" quotes correctly.

>>50087765
Replace the broken off bits with bodyparts from the offenders. Makes for a nice conversation piece, and then you have a little less mass to dispose off.

File: Name pending.gif (5MB, 480x270px)

5MB, 480x270px

>>50087765
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO

>>50087863
So what you're saying is, they are Sigismund's crew?
Like what >>50087695 said?

File: tfw Sigismund.jpg (157KB, 639x412px)

157KB, 639x412px

>>50087901

>>50087788
>>50087870
>>50087885
The Life Eater virus (hydrofluoric acid) has already been deployed.

>>50087765
>fist, laurel and cross decorations on chestplate are just the same silver are the rest of the armour
Please tell me the model's wip and you're going to address that.

File: Dorn has Furious Charge.png (617KB, 480x640px) Image search: [Google]

617KB, 480x640px

>>50087917

File: Rogal Dorn 3.jpg (51KB, 466x466px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 466x466px

>>50087940
And +D3 attacks too, since he is outnumbered by those Iron babbys

>>50087901
It's what Sigismund's crew eventually turn into, 10 thousand years of religious indoctrination tends to make a bit of a mess.
I doubt they're that bad during the Heresy.

>>50087927
>The Life Eater virus (hydrofluoric acid) has already been deployed.

Sheesh man, FOOF is much nastier, it makes HF look positively mild in comparison.

As for Life Eater, I assume it's actually a biological weapon, much like the name suggests, a simple chemical weapon wouldn't be called a virus.

Has the Imperial Fists taken the general from the Iron Warriors? Truly a glorious day, that no one can wound on anything better than a 3+ regardless of any special rules it has.
>>50087985
>Implying there's anything bad about 40k templars.

So which one of you fuckers is doing a DDOS attack on Bolter and Chainsword?

So, anyone with Corax or Children of Sicarus to share? Or maybe Blackshield and Myriad.
I'll add them to the library of Rho-Mu 31.

>>50088046
Why do you assume it's us?

>>50087933
that's why I had them all out on my cabinet so their WIP-ness would bug me til I fixed it.

>>50088058

It's either you or 40k General.

>>50088024
They're not bad, just completely insane.

>>50088054
And The Either.

>>50088084
It's probably them. Go check.

File: The man, the myth, the legend..jpg (60KB, 300x750px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 300x750px

>>50088086
I guess I can accept that.

Speaking of Siggy, I'm thinking of getting him and a retinue of Templar Brethren as a little bit of a birthday present for myself. When he was declared the Emperor's champion and took part in the Siege, he mostly abandoned his yellow armour and legion icons and wore black, right?

>>50087160
Blood Angels: Revelation
Dark Angels: Confusion
White Scars: Zoom-Zoom (kidding, they'll probably be in Confusion too)
Tallarn: Devastation
Anvillus/Solar System: Affluxion
Terra: Invasion
Terra II: Desperation
Terra III: Enthronement

File: image.jpg (142KB, 750x613px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 750x613px

Want some Prospero bases for my SW, yay/nay on these? The crosses might be too odd?

>>50087985
No. BT started worshipping the Emperor straight after the Heresy.

>>50087765
Congratulations, your relatives have worse hand-eye coordination than you, KA. That's quite an achievement.

>>50088184
Must run in the family.

>>50088167
Proofs?

>>50088167
>No. BT started worshipping the Emperor straight after the Heresy.

Exactly, doing that for 10k years is going to make a mess, 40k Templars are nutjobs to a man.

I very much doubt the Black Templar as formed in the 2nd founding were as maniacal as their namesakes 10,000 years later.
They were religious zealots, certainly, but there are degrees of religious fervour.

>>50088199
>There are degrees of religious fervour.
Never go full word bearer.

>>50088152
Do we have the faintest idea yet what the Blood Angels did between leaving Macragge and getting to Terra?

>>50088199

40K Templars are also devout followers of the Codex Astartes.

>>50088252
Please stop

>>50088262

Not my fault there's only 1000 Templars now. Blame GW for ensuring all Chapters must be the same (except Space Wolves, because).

>>50088127
>he mostly abandoned his yellow armour and legion icons and wore black, right?

Funnily enough its never described the kind of armor Sigismund wore during the siege, we all just assume that the practice of Emperor's Champions follows what Sigismund did, so black armor.

File: do you even siege.jpg (189KB, 798x445px) Image search: [Google]

189KB, 798x445px

>>50088024
>Implying we aren't Iron Warriors writing fanfiction about the Imperial Fists
The Siege, the Great Equalizer.

>>50088274
>Not my fault there's only 1000 Templars now. Blame GW for ensuring all Chapters must be the same (except Space Wolves, because).

What kind of fluff raping has GW been doing recently?
It seems I missed something quite dreadful.
The Templar are arguably the largest "chapter" of the modern Marine era.
There are a lot of Crusade fleets out there and most of them are pretty large (well above company size).

>>50088152
Terra I: Invasion
Terra II: Siege
Terra III: Ascencion

>>50088158
Have you looked at the AoS ones?

>>50088324
Replace book 3 with Apotheosis.

Emperor becoming enthroned as a god and all that.

File: Order of the Sigismunds.png (3MB, 2856x576px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 2856x576px

>>50088282
>Funnily enough its never described the kind of armor Sigismund wore during the siege
What are you talking about? He comments he feels weird wearing black armour, but the chaplains tell him it's because he now serves the Emperor directly as His Champion. Black denotes direct service to the throne, like Chaplains do. Unless you're Auric. Or Bare Ceramite like Malcador's boys.
And that's why the BT have the position of the Emperor's Champion.

Or are you talking about what mark he wore? Sigismund pattern.

>>50088239
Nope. Prepare for the biggest pulled-out-of-ass from BL yet. Specially now that they killed off the one plot-device already there that could have tranported the Bangels to Terra in time.

>>50088340
Those are kind of fucked up no?

>>50088006
>>50087927

Its literally called a virus, its not a chemical.

File: IMG_3107.jpg (90KB, 619x600px)

90KB, 619x600px

>>50088319
The most they've ever had were 1300 men, and are currently at 1,000.

This makes the Exorcists, with their three scout companies the largest chapter.

This is explicitly canon.

>>50088405
don't get all STEM on me mister.

File: ShatteredDominion.jpg (153KB, 920x950px) Image search: [Google]

153KB, 920x950px

>>50088380
I think those look nice.

>>50088423
Yes, and how recent is this rather obscene bit of retconning?

>>50088295
>ywn see Perty and Dorn double team some traitors
>ywn see them having an autistic argument about the best way to do a siege
>ywn see an auric fortress surrounded by minefields and barbed wire
>ywn see Perty and Dorn trying to avoid each other's eye at Polux and Dantioch's wedding while artillery sounds in the background
>ywn see an IW commanded bombardment land with pinpoint accuracy while the IF gunner shoots the pintle heavy bolter at BS5
It's not a good feel lads.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Space-Marine-Boarding-Assault-Upgrade-Set

Anyone know if sufficient means 10 or just those 6 that are on the pic?

>>50088429
Shame about the skulls, not sure those really fit the streets of prospero.

>>50088436

When the new Codex: Space marines came out.

>>50088405
I think he was using LEV akin to a dangerous substance. I mean, what would you have thought if he had said, idk, "the Live Eater Virus has been released (burrito AIDS-bola)"

>>50088444
>TS are so not-baddies they don't even have skulls in their heads

>>50088443
>sufficient...to build 5 boarding space marines, as well as additional components for a sergeant
I'm guessing 6.

>>50088443
Just 6.

>>50088443
The set has 6 shields. It is actually made for some obscure 40k marine unit in one of the badab war books, but a lot of the recent HH artwork has those shields instead of the FW breacher shields.

Good thing, because th boarding shields' looks are just superior.

File: B03921_Bbases_Arcane_Round25mm[1].jpg (317KB, 800x600px)

317KB, 800x600px

>>50088158
Microartstudio Arcane bases are quite nice designs too, but they don't have 32mm ones for those yet.
http://shop.microartstudio.com/arcane-c-3_98.html

Tabletop Art's Temple of Isis isn't bad either, but again missing 32mm bases.

>>50088446
homogenisation.... sad!

>>50088467
>SW are such badasses their enemies rot away to skeletons immediately on death

>>50088521
>DA and BA adhere to the Codex Astartes
>got their own codexes
>IH, BT, etc. don't
>"Oh, I know, lets make them Codex adherent!"

File: Untitled.jpg (6MB, 4920x3232px) Image search: [Google]

6MB, 4920x3232px

>>50088423
>The most they've ever had were 1300 men

Even if we follow current GW fluff thats questionable, this bit of fluff has yet to be retconned and GW acknowledges that Helbrecht has 1300 men and there being 3 more official crusades across the galaxy. Here there are two crusades that happen at the same time, Crusade for Armageddon (1300 BT) and Crusade of Brotherhood (732) which is sent to help Crimson Fists as they rebuild their world and fight orks, meaning that there are at least 2000 Black Templars plus two more crusades that were shown in the Deathwatch galactic map.

File: muh dick.gif (936KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

936KB, 500x281px

>>50088440
>>ywn see Perty and Dorn double team some traitors
>>ywn see them having an autistic argument about the best way to do a siege
>>ywn see an auric fortress surrounded by minefields and barbed wire
>>ywn see an IW commanded bombardment land with pinpoint accuracy while the IF gunner shoots the pintle heavy bolter at BS5
Iron Havocs shooting from Dorn's Auric bastions, upgraded to AV15 by Kyr
Perturabo teleporting alongside TH/SS termies
IF Testudo formations doing a danger-march under cover from precise IW artillery
As Aetos Dios avobe, so Tormentor below

But especially
POLUX DEEPSTRIKING ALONGSIDE THE IRON CIRCLE

>>ywn see Perty and Dorn trying to avoid each other's eye at Polux and Dantioch's wedding while artillery sounds in the background
My fucking sides, man

File: FacePalmMarine[1].jpg (8KB, 251x201px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 251x201px

>>50088559
*facepalm*

>>50088559
>>"Oh, I know, lets make them Codex adherent!"
At least the IH do have their supplement, kek.

>>50088549
>But wolf-sargent! We do the TSons skeletons not have a vertebrae?
>>Because they are SPINELESS!
Dohohohohohohoarfarfarfarfarfarfarfarf

>>50088549
It's not called "burning" for nothing and it wasn't over in a day.

Besides, we should already know that in the world of 40k skull just sprout from the ground like weeds the moment something grimderp happens. There's some people on Prospero watching as skulls behind to fall from trees and push out from the ground, and as they try to figure what's going on, the sky darkens from strike cruisers and drop ships.

>>50088607
I'm laughing at that joke too, but who the hell laught like arf arf arf?

>>50088626
a dog would...

>>50088584
>POLUX DEEPSTRIKING ALONGSIDE THE IRON CIRCLE
Sorry anon, Polux only works on infantry.

>>50088635
Monstrous Infantry ;^)
>tfw not even a joint IW/IF force could fix the Iron Circle
Just let them deepstrike, FW!

>>50088423
Do the Exorcists have 2 extra scout companies on top of the 10 companies, or do they have like 7 companies and 3 scout companies?

Besides, they have those companies because they lose a lot of troops, so it's likely they're never at full strength anyway. Like how Crimsons Fists have a 128 member 1st company (so at full strength they'd have 1028 fighting marines), but since they're at like 400 marines, it doesn't come into play.

>>50088653
It's not like they're going to die before they get across the table.

>>50088653
Fun fact, you can give them Deep Strike with Armillus Dynats Hammerstrike trait.

>>50088606
Which just upheld all the new fluff. I liked the IH way of having scouts, vets, etc. distributed across the companies, rather than having dedicated scout and veteran companies. Also, terminator sergeants instead of terminator squads.

>>50088663
1000 marines is the standard, but in reality few chapters are complete, because in the 40th millenium there's only war. I think they have 2 extra scout companies on top of the regular ones.
>>50088682
Shhh no more footslogging, only deepstriking.
>>50088690
Nuh-uh. He too affects an infantry unit.

How do you run your Praetor?

Why is the tribune considered bad?

Where do you stick your big boss ingame?

Whats his role? Can he be more than a beatstick?

File: Mk3 Limited Edition.jpg (47KB, 414x500px)

47KB, 414x500px

>>50088483
>obscure 40k marine unit
Siege mantlets iirc - makes you bulky and your 3+ armour save re-rollable against shooting

>>50087551 would be pic related

>>50088690
But Dynat's warlord trait also specifies Infantery.

>>50088703
>Nuh-uh. He too affects an infantry unit.
darn

Slowpoke as fuck, I know, but can someone post the version of the common AL colour scheme using layered blue and green glazes

>>50088715
That marine combines the best of 30k and 40k.
Auric MkIII with purity seals and the non-palatine Aquila. Even his tabard is armoured.
He's my headcanon for Alpharius :^D

>>50088779
The version with the post breaking down the paints used cropped into it fuck phoneposting is shit

File: how to alpha.jpg (2MB, 3200x2368px)

2MB, 3200x2368px

>>50088799
>>50088779
Give Alpharius' MkIII pic from Praetorian of Dorn, plz

File: image.jpg (415KB, 600x566px) Image search: [Google]

415KB, 600x566px

>>50088500
Those are really nice, but feel like across a whole army might be visually overwhelming.

I really like these for a sort of "streets getting carved by bolts and beams"

>>50088706
>How do you run your Praetor?
B@C
>Why is the tribune considered bad?
It's not?
>Where do you stick your big boss ingame?
Command squad, fluffy and functional.
>Whats his role? Can he be more than a beatstick?
MotL, WS6, 3W, 4A and Paragon Blades, that's his role.

>>50088580
False.

They were explicitly mentioned to not have more than 1,000. At all. And that they go on crusade as a whole chapter or with very small crusades.

File: 20161026_210908.jpg (747KB, 701x1246px)

747KB, 701x1246px

>>50088706
Power fist and Paragon Blade.

It's really, really not. I mean, people disagree with the chunky legs, but whatever.

In a spartan with a shitload of Tartaros Termies

Nope, just a beatstick all day erry day

>>50087330
Dude I love building settings inside of the HH setting as a whole to fight over

some ideas:
>What else lives beneath the panels in the wasteland?
You could include multiple kinds of abhuman, maybe even a xenos infestation that isn't strong enough to take the Forges but carves out territory under the panels.
>Why do the forges need so much power (outside of regular forgey forging)?
Shielding. If this planet drifts between two stars they would need a LOT of shielding, wether from intense solar flares or from orbital bombardment. Which would make fighitng on this world interesting; an Astartes strike force won't get into a Forge unless they're invited in, or they fight their way through the Solar Panels
>I'm not sure what else to throw in so any suggestions would be appreciated.
Try going over the Solar Panels idea again, what would life be like under those? What happens if a panel falls into disrepair and lets the intense, killing radiation of the twin suns in? There's a lot of stuff there because to me it sounds like one gigantic Underhive, almost.
>Other planet in the system is a pre-imperial/DaoT ruined world, or maybe some kind of artificial planetoid?
You could expand on this and add in some kind of prison moonlet/ servitor factory that both sides now fight over for the manpower needed by either forge.

>>50088663
2 extra on top of the first. So 12/13 Companies total, can't remember the exact numbers, but iirc they are currently at full strength. They have the extra companies because many die in the exorcism when they become a fully-fledged battle brother.

>>50088706
I like to kit them out as Terminator beatsticks with a couple bodyguards in a land raider Proteus with the one upgrade that reduces the transport capacity for some sweet bonuses.

I'm trying to come up with a list for my first real game of 30k, and I want to use the jetbikes I have. I have 7 in total.

Am I better to have:

A) Alvarex Maun infiltrating somewhere mid-field and use his Strato-vox rule to enable a unit of, say, 7 jetbikes inc. a Primus Medicae or Chaplain, all geared up for CC, deepstrike with no scatter and Counter Attack the turn they arrive

or

B) A Praetor with a paragon blade and a 5-man command squad armed with power axes and meltabombs just zooming around waiting to fuck up an elite unit? Two of the bikes would have plasma cannons (unless there's a better option)

Help me out here lads.

File: IMG_2502.jpg (154KB, 400x569px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 400x569px

>>50088715
Truly, that must be an important member of the Auric Patricians!

>>50087330
>tfw your enemy keeps stealing power from the panels, as well as your cable tv
So, the floor is panels or the land is seeded with panels as far as the cyber-occularis can see? Any would make for a spectacular view.

>>50089047
The second one sounds cool

>>50087446
A dozer blade that can move up and down DURR

>>50089047
I'd say B, especially because a Command squad can be geared for close combat while a regular Jetbike squad cannot, especially because the only power weapon they get is the sergeant's, whom also has to be bought.

>>50089063
Am I doing it wrong by upgrading the heavy bolters to expensive weapons when I'm also paying to kit them out for CC? This seems like a rookie error, but I'm thinking that if those plasma cannons can take out a few terminators before assault then they might have earned their points back.

Any nifty tricks I should know about with using jetbikes effectively?

>>50087446
Dark Age of Technology grav-held Dozer Blade, which pushes obstacles away due to a strong grav-lensing effect.
May not be used to physically move earth.

>>50089134
Can't take other heavy weapons in a command squad so heavy bolters do just fine.

>>50089052
From the description, I thought the solar panels were up in the air floating/supported in some fashion. But that there's literally tens of millions of square millions of them that they block out the sun on 2/3rds of the planet.

>>50087330
>Why do the forges need so much power (outside of regular forgey forging)?
Perhaps the forges are too interconnected with the solar panels and are built in such a way that they can't interface with any other power source. It's the only reason I can think of why one side wouldn't just work on destroying the solar panels entirely while secretly bringing in backup power supplies.

>>50089134
>any nifty tricks I should know about with using jetbikes effectively

I have no idea, but I'm also interested to find out. My world eaters have a whole lot of anvils, and not many hammers. I've been thinking about having a plasma cannon-toting Jetbike squad drop in from reserves and reinforce segments of my line that need it mid-battle. Not sure how effective it would be.

>>50089185
>square miles*

>>50089130
Good point, thanks man.

>>50089184
Also a good point. Brb, going to learn how to read.

>Exams draining all my brainpower

Can't wait to just enjoy the holiday and finish painting my little toy soldiers.

>>50089196
I will report back my findings after I've played a couple of games. Stay posted my angry friend.

>>50088808
I thought it was just Leadbelcher spray? WIll that work?

>>50089185
Maybe the panels are there, and what the Mechanicum is fighting for is for the power plants that collect the energy from the solar panels, since they transmit it via microwaves to a designated power plant? If each side fully believes it's just a matter of time to gain control of 100% of the panels, then the issue becomes capturing the plants, not destroying the enemy's plants. Because we know the Mechanicum is avaricious and wants it all.
As in, you wouldn't destroy the enemy's food silos if what you're fighting for is the silos themselves. Better kill the enemy then get the silos.

>>50089244
Holiday break can't come soon enough. Too much backlog man

File: image.jpg (83KB, 381x472px)

83KB, 381x472px

>Half a dozen people compliment your 30k paint scheme at the store

Oh gosh

>>50089258
Yeah, it'll work. It depends how shiny you want the final job to be.

>>50088127
When he fights on the walls of Terra he has been exiled from the legion, so i presume he's wearing his black armour, mourning the loss of his command. You can always strip him ;^)

>>50088979
My man.

I love the shielding idea. I'm thinking orbital defenses are too strong/shields too powerful, and roll with your ideas that you can only get in from the ground. I hadn't even considered solar flares, thats what an astrophysics degree gets you, makes you sloppy.

I'm thinking some of the objectives would be to capture differen 'hubs' or 'nodes' that route power to the forges. Then bring in some of the ZM rules for hazards to represent falling panels/debris.

What do you think of bringing in more DaoT tech into the equatorial wasteland, I love the mysterious hidden artifacts/secret tech angle so much. Maybe uncovering some kind of massive mega-engineering project that the binary system is artificial/dragged there/supposed to be destroyed/drained/changed in some way. Maybe giant warp portal powering black hole like the supergates from stargate? as a twist at the end.

Who has that picture of the HH game at the high speed? I'm certain you guys know what I'm talking about.

>>50089281
Picture or else!

>>50089364
Doesn't need to be super shiny, fluffwise the force is a specialist weapons contingent with a lot of destroyers, all of the models are going to be getting liberal amounts of rust effect paint on their blue parts, and squad leaders will have oxidized bronze armour segments. The entire scheme should have a look of corrosion about it.

>>50088319
Read 1d more you pleb

>>50089052
Yeh the idea was theyd be supported somehow, my visual was like a jungle canopy, high above to be unreachable, maybe cracks of light shining through.

>>50089185
I love the interconnected idea, and we're working to redirect power away from one forge and to another. Or that the whole planet is too valuable and they need to be preserved, like they only produce something valuable.

>>50089270
I'm thinking matrix-style power lines would be a really cool visual idea. Masses and masses of them, visible from space maybe? as gaps in the panels?

>>50089376
So how high are these solar panels? Are they high enough where some sort of cloud cover would exist below it? If so, perhaps areas below the panels suffer from terrible flooding, as there is nowhere for the water to go natrually, relying instead on ancient drainage systems that are fought over control, both physically and digitally.

>>50088444
Blood spills formed icons of Tzeentch and familiars turned into Horrors, m8 Tzeentch Vult

File: Electropriests.png (493KB, 613x635px) Image search: [Google]

493KB, 613x635px

>>50089439
>>50089376
Nigga, the planet is dancing eights around the stars. And you know planet migration is possible. The system itself may be engineered. But the panels collect surplus power even after fueling all the Forgeworld's systems. Maybe it's charging something else...
Also, Fulgurites and Corpuscarii mantain a strong presence in the planet, maybe each faction concentrated on a different pole.
The planet is a research facility pursuing trying to unlock mankind's electric potential

>>50088559
Explain how DA do but IH don't

>>50089410
leadbelcher is fine then. You can just do one overall coat and then apply your clears and shading, or you could drybrush / airbrush some other metallics on for more base highlighting. Though I tried that and I don't think it makes a worthwhile difference without an airbrush.

>>50087330
Is this the Campaign we started designing but never finished

>>50089494
DA are famous for being very compliant with the Chapter regulations, on the surface of things. That they're well-suited for all the offspring Chapters to come together under the command of the DA to make a pseudo-Legion doesn't make them less adherent to the Codex Astartes

I'm out of the loop on what the latest IH supplements have statedm but I'm assuming there are some shenanigans regarding the Clans and numbers?

>>50089047
Command squads cant swap the weapons on their jetbikes

>>50089624
Oops ignore me, shows why you should always read the whole thread before posting

File: very fast horus heresy gamer playign at incredible speeds.jpg (344KB, 715x1065px) Image search: [Google]

344KB, 715x1065px

>>50089387
don't have the edited one with the google search and shit, but here you go

>>50089281
>brought my army to the store for a game for the first time a few weeks ago
>everyone compliments the paint job
>guy who did a great army on parade entry inspects and compliments your work
Feels weird man

>>50089370
Sick, that's pretty much what I thought. I'm not letting myself get too excited for the project yet, but dammit, I'm close.

>>50089569
You're correct in saying that having contingency plan for reuniting the legion is normal. But also
>first company
All terminator armoured, no iffs no buts
>second company
All bikes, jet bikes and speeders
>other companies
Company veterans instead of Stern and Vanguard

>>50089476
Did those particular Machine Cult sects even exist in 30k? I thought they came into being during the Age of Apostasy.

File: Conduits of strife.png (160KB, 871x625px)

160KB, 871x625px

>>50089439
Also, yes, Matrix-style sounds awesome, as does the panel-canopy
>>50089657
Yes, it originated in Mars from pre-imperial times.

>>50089651
>MkVII
>unpainted leviathan
>thunderfire cannons proxied as rapiers

what the FUCK am I looking at

>>50089720
People having fun?

File: Electronutting.png (2MB, 924x1178px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 924x1178px

>>50089651
That nigga is blessed by the Motive Force

>>50089439
I've got it! So how about this, the planet doesn't produce anything. Instead, it draws the energy from the solar panels (in addition to drawing from the planet's core) into a device deep underground that keeps the warp around the system, and the surrounding 1 or 2 light years, permanently stable. This makes it massively important for keeping open transportation in the region, but also why neither side is willing to just outright destroy the other.

As a byproduct, the individual forges use this mass of energy for other power-related side projects.

>>50089720
Two out of 4 guys at the table who give a fair amount of shits about the hobby.

Also, more importantly, >>50089741

>>50089720
MEchancium and salamanders vs word bearers and (alpha legion I think)
The guy let him use mk8 snapfit as he's buying calth

File: IMG_3109.jpg (107KB, 736x1173px)

107KB, 736x1173px

>>50089476
I'm going to be completely honest. I've always hated Electro-priests. The idea sounds cool, but I hate how they look with a passion.

Also, why are there no AdMech/Mechanicum Magos/Archmagos models where the skin is completely covered and/or replaced?

Like pic related, that guy looks awesome.

>>50089779
World Eaters, not Alpha Legion.
And the guy using the snapfit dudes has Death Guard as his primary HH army; the salamanders are an older 40k project that he uses for 30k sometimes.

>>50089494
From the old Index Astartes:
>The organisation of the Chapter has moved away from the standard Codex form, becoming more like a reflection of the native clans of Medusa.
>There are ten Clan Companies which act in much the same way as the Battle Companies of traditional Codex Chapters, being versatile and capable in any given situation. However, where traditional Codex Chapters have a distinct separation between the various Companies that form it, such as the 10th Company being formed of Scouts, the Iron Hands Chapter is made up solely of its ten Clan Companies. These generally act as completely separate entities in their own right
>Each Clan Company has its own hierarchy, and is responsible for the recruitment of new Space Marines in order to keep the Clan Company numbers at the required level. These new recruits are taken from the clans of Medusa who embrace their new Clan Company and the Chapter as a whole. The Clan Companies are nomadic, much like the clans they are recruited from.
>As a direct result of their respect for the mechanical body, the Iron Hands differ significantly in some regards from the standard Codex organisation.
>Another variation from the standard Codex form is the distinct lack of Chaplains within the Chapter. They are replaced in sorts by the Iron-Fathers, who in effect take the dual role of Techmarine and Chaplain.
>The reverence they hold for the mechanical, the physical embodiment of knowledge, is frowned upon by the majority of more Codex Space Marine Chapters.

Meanwhile, the DA:
>To an outsider, the organisation of the Dark Angels is much the same as other Codex Chapters, ten Companies each with 100 men.
>The first two Companies of the Dark Angels are where the greatest difference between other codex Chapters lies.
>The remainder of the chapter is organised along strict Codex lines

File: Ghost in the Haemonculite Cyber-corpus.jpg (108KB, 500x286px) Image search: [Google]

108KB, 500x286px

>>50089780
>Also, why are there no AdMech/Mechanicum Magos/Archmagos models where the skin is completely covered and/or replaced?
Satarael has a full body prosthesis
Alright maybe not bodybuilding electropriests, but people with lots of Electoos over their mechanical bodies. And with implanted power units.
The Holy Power is a real thing. Ctrl+f Hagia Dynamis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Irene

>>50089831

Yet another retcon. Each IH Company is a standard Codex Company. Avernii are Veterans, Dorrvok are Scouts.

>>50089652
>first company
>second company

And Ultras have Tyrannic War Vets, Crimson Fists have 128 member 1st company, etc. Even the most Codex Adherent chapters have variations.

>Company veterans instead of Stern and Vanguard

What they call them doesn't matter. Chapters don't have to call their company commanders captains and squad leaders sergeants to be codex adherent. It's the organization, not the letter of the codex.

Same with IG (the separation of which was also penned by Girlyman) also leaves plenty of room for local variation in command structure and titles, as long as it somehow fits into the general Guard structure, so that all the war chiefs, pretorians and kriegherrs know they're roughly on equal footing when planning strategies.

>>50089741
>>50089770
>>50089779

Fucking plasticbabbies making excuses as usual

Let me guess, MkIV was always your favourite armour mark but you've been swayed over to MkIII recently?

>>50089831
On second thoughts IH are slightly more compliant as they don't have a legion programme just a call for help, because of company veterans it's basically the same amount of difference elsewhere

File: Hammers_of_Dorn-Hero.jpg (245KB, 686x1233px)

245KB, 686x1233px

>>50089892
>And Ultras have Tyrannic War Vets, Crimson Fists have 128 member 1st company, etc. Even the most Codex Adherent chapters have variations.
YOU FUCKING HERETICS

File: 20161104_011824.jpg (279KB, 980x735px)

279KB, 980x735px

working on my praetor

>>50089926
>20161104
>04
Australia? Tell me about Your Dude m8.

>>50089904
I wasn't even that player just remembered the bread it was from, mk 4 is my favourite heresy armour, neck collar is favourite post heresy armour. Mk 4 because advanced sensors help coordinate artillery bombardement, Collar armour because with the cape and power fist you are a pimp

>>50089904
>mkIV has always been your favourite armour mark
Yeah
>but you've been swayed over to mkIII recently
Nah

No-fun-allowed cunt

>>50089917
DA don't really have a Legion program, their chapters just coordinate in terms of hunting the Fallen. High Lords just suspects them of Legion building because of this secret covenant of chapter masters.

Hell, Ultras, especially around Ultramar, are very buddy-buddy with their successors and nobody had a problem with that.

>>50089924
Technically Fists are more codex compliant than Ultras, sans contingency plan. But ultras having their own chapter patrolling EoT makes them go off the deep end

>>50089904
>triggered

>>50089941
>MkIV because advanced sensors
>not MkVI for super-advanced sensors

No wonder you keep scattering on your own dudes.

File: mkIII word bearers.png (565KB, 495x637px)

565KB, 495x637px

>>50089904
If it was for any other mark I'd agree with you, but it's MkIII! Everything looks good in MkIII. Can you blame them?
Even Word Bearers! 10/10 Have faith.

>>50089948
>High Lords just suspects them of Legion building because of this secret covenant of chapter masters.

Which are all subordinated to the DA chapter master, all chapters are tied to their successors and are buddies but are not subordinated to them.

>>50089948
Being able to call on successors is nothing compared to what the Dark Angels have. Sure, the Ultramarines and their successors will meet up every century or two and see how things are going, but they aren't going to be getting weekly reports from their successors on their activities.

>>50089831
what was the chapter that combined the roles of Chaplain and Librarian? because this Iron-fathers stuff seems really similar

>>50089924
How I love the Hammers of Dorn and their ability to legitimately make use of every word in the codex.

They also look pimpin', have a hatred of the Ultramarines, and the Black Legion are jelly cause they wear their colors better.

>>50089960
I think they have a whole chapter that serves as a reserve for any casualties inflicted on the main UM chapter. Is that who you're talking about?
>>50090000
The SW

File: 286aa9f73b154b65935c54f736b10d29.jpg (377KB, 1152x1536px) Image search: [Google]

377KB, 1152x1536px

found this on the subreddit, goddammit is this you KA?

File: 1421004501389.jpg (26KB, 542x650px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 542x650px

>>50089940
Captain Peryc Morg of the 11th Reserve Company, 3rd Great Company

-former leader and one of the few surviving members of the 6th destroyer terminator squad who managed to break through the enemy lines on Vislov Secundus and slay the vile xeno queen as the 3rd Great Company was suffering nearly catastrophical losses against the psychic insectoids

-noted for exceptional leadership and endurance, promoted to the rank of Captain at the conclusion of the Vislov xenocide

-commended by Primarch Mortarion after the Isstvan III campaign where the 11th Reserve Company isolated and destroyed a significant loyalist force in the bunker complexes of the northern garrison stronghold-sector

>>50090007
alright I found why, the Silver Skulls have prognosticators which double duties as librarians and chaplains but they also have chaplains proper

>>50090000
WS stormseer? Check 1d

>>50090034
What's wrong with it? As an Ultramarine or a World Eater, it looks fine.

>>50090034
>night eater

>>50090034
IS he dancing the macarena?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anzzNp8HlVQ

>>50089973
>Mk 4 good armour > mk3 amazing armour that breaks down > mk6 no armour
When the artillery is on target then you have my permission to die

>>50088962
That model looks fucking horrible and your nice paintjob is completely unable to change that. It it the first 30k model I laugh at every time I see.

File: IMG_2948.jpg (255KB, 603x883px)

255KB, 603x883px

>>50090034
That's likely not KA. For one, KA said he'd follow Duncan's guide 100%. Two, KA usually posts pics in front of his computer. Three, I can see yellow. We all know that KA has an aversion to yellow, so therefore it cannot be him!

>>50090076
>amazing armor that breaks down
Anon, MkV never had amazing armor.

Besides, MkII a best.

File: Johnny bravo dance.gif (6KB, 100x100px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 100x100px

>>50090039
Sounds nice, why the worried face?
>>50090060
No he's doing the Johnny Bravo dance

>>50090088
Your mom looks fucking horrible, didn't stop me from shagging her raw the other night m8.

>>50090039
>destroyer terminator squad
is that a thing?

>>50090088

It's really not that bad. The worst parts of that mini are the banner and goofy head, both of which this anon has removed.

The actual design of the armour proper is straight out of Collected Visions, and both it and its inspiration are sweet.

>>50090153
My headcanon is that's what they call Grave Wardens in-house

>>50090034
That is acceptable tabletop standard. "Good from afar but far from good" and all that.

File: Destroyer Dreadnought.png (1MB, 832x641px)

1MB, 832x641px

>>50090153
Yes indeed, Grave Wardens are Destroyer termies, pioneered by Calas Typhon.
Destroyer Dreads with emerald flames when?

>>50090076
>When the artillery is on target then you have my permission to die

Well, with those optics I'll see the heat death of the universe before you'll hit anything.

>>50089994
>they aren't going to be getting weekly reports from their successors on their activities.

On regards to their redemption and hunting the Fallen, not actual legion building, those are mere rumours that circulate because people don't know the truth.

>>50090208
>>50090179
huh, cool
i wish the sergeant could load phosphex bombs in the 'nade launchers then, that would be sweet
what are emerald flames, exactly? havent read the HH books really

>>50089134
>Any nifty tricks I should know about with using jetbikes effectively?

https://m. (social media site with initials "FB") .com/story.php?story_fbid=1094326837292456&id=851280114930464

File: glorious mkIII DG.png (6MB, 1963x1430px) Image search: [Google]

6MB, 1963x1430px

>>50090076
>mk3 amazing armour that breaks down
>MkIII
>ever breaking down
Nigga, that armour will last more than you will.
>>50090275
Like two threads past anon said he wanted a dedicated flamer dread, I think it was for iconoclastic purposes? Aka, burning all kinds of shit down. So I digged that pic there proving that WB destroyer Dreads are a thing. You can see the Destroyer icon on it.

>>50089561
No just something I threw out weeks ago that I had some time to work on and throw out again.

>>50089758
I like that, but is it too much for the mechanicum? Do we want to keep it as a secret twist, or an unknown result of something? Like what if the mechanicus doesnt know the planet is doing that? And we find out as the story progresses?

Im not big on the electropriest angle, how about we go for more solar powerer photon weaponry instead? Imagine fighting in the dark under the panels and mechanicum are lighting up the place with bright as fuck laser beams. Blinding everyone.

I'm super happy people like this idea.

Just some random thoughts on the Idea of Iron Warrior Combat engineers
> 5-15 man unit
> Standard SM statline
> Olympia Shotgun, Frag/Krak Grenades, Meltabombs, CCW
> may take a Meltagun, Breacher charge or Heavy flamer per 5 models
> May Take a Hades drill as a dedicated transport
> Squad may take up to 2 Phospex bombs

> Olympia Shotgun, (partly inspired by /k/ommando that made his homemade shotgun shells as posted in the last thread),
12' Str 4, AP 3 Assault 2 Shotguns.

>>50090208
>Destroyer Dreadnought

Why is there only 4 Elite slots!

>>50090356
>Olympia Shotgun
> 12' Str 4, AP3
Stop. Not everything needs to be AP3. I'm not saying you should make them Carcass munitins like the Krieger's (Shred + Gets Hot), but maybe giving them Shred is good enough?
>>50090370
Such is life, anon.

>>50090361
>12'
>Twelve Feet
>Twelve FEET
I'll take six.

File: 20161104_005647.jpg (702KB, 1033x924px) Image search: [Google]

702KB, 1033x924px

Finally "done" with this fucker thats has been sitting on my desk for 2 weeks now. I gave up on the hazard lines on the shoulder pads until I get masking tape.
As always a few details to do, like finishing the base, and blacklining the dents in the armor, but hey, first Terminator for my Bitter People.

>>50090398
>Such is life, anon.

Fuck my life, I want to make poison huffer Destroyer dreads with chem-sprayers!

>>50090398

Shred with Gets Hot will do, i went a bit over the top there, i agree.
>>50090405
Fuck, twas supposed to be inches.
>>50090420
Looks neat

>>50090356
I figured it was some real heavy DaoT tech. Irreplaceable and irreplicable. Perhaps the calming of the warp is a byproduct of whatever crazy experiments the two forges are doing with the device. Perhaps its existence is only known to the two forges and not really known to the surrounding Imperium and currently neither side wants that knowledge getting out. Possibly because, if it was known there would be WAY more support coming in from both sides of the Heresy, whereas until it gets out, this is a Mechanicum on Mechanicum fight only. Assuming that's what you were going for.

>>50090438
boxnaughts with flamestorm cannons

>>50090420
your black stripes are too thin, KA
:^)

>>50090454
And a heavy flamer.

Sucks you can't give them rad missiles in their missile launcher. Though Creeping Death would make their frag missiles into S5 chem-missiles... Man, if only Mortis dreads came in squads. I'd make a missile one with missile launchers and havoc launchers, dropping three TL S5 Blasts all over the place.

>>50090420
Looks nice! I say you should have waited to get your masking tape before doing the striping, but it doesn't look bad at all!

One tip I can offer is to add one of the thicker texture paints or some cork or something along those lines to give some extra detail to the base.

Is there any reason to take a Legion Recon squad in an AL list which can just have everything infiltrating if wanted?

I need an excuse to paint up AL scouts.

>>50089861
That doesn't make sense. Scouts graduate to become marines in the other nine companies... it'd be strange for a clan to draw the short straw and only be allowed to provide scouts who wouldn't be allowed to complete the initiation process. Meanwhile, all the real marines would have to skip the scout stage.

As far as I know, what makes Dark Angels different is the Inner Circle. Members of DA successor chapters are in it, and that's how they coordinate. But they're also members of their companies so from the outside everything looks normal.

>>50090516
>if only Mortis dreads came in squads
Just make a normal dread talon with missiles launchers

>>50090438
Flamestorm boxes or CCW with Heavy Flamer Contemptors.

>>50090531
Playing a Recon RoW list so you can choose a different tactic, so Infiltrate plus something else.

File: Punt gun.jpg (58KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 800x450px

>>50090405
Iron Warriors using Punt guns is something I'd support, heavily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfQ5qwOExuw
>>50090438
Would you give Chem ammo to a Flamestorm cannon Boxnought? They are already AP3

>>50090531
Use the recon company RoW and take a different mutable tactic?

File: IMG_0220.jpg (423KB, 974x612px)

423KB, 974x612px

Completed Iron Warriors. I'm in the process of repainting what few units I've collected for HH over the years.

>>50090545
You're missing the part where marines move from clan to clan as they advance, just like a codex chapter's companies.

File: 20161102_224211.jpg (225KB, 1328x747px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 1328x747px

>>50090420
Left shoulder pad's trim looks a little messy. Right knee-guard stripes could be neater. The left knee-guard stripes look really good to me. Looks mad decent overall though, would defend the walls of the Imperial Palace against.

>>50080568
Having done this guy in pure black I agree that I should have done with something off-black. I remember the old GW site (back when it was good) had a great tutorial for painting Black Templars that used a mix of Rhinox Hide and Abbadon Black that looked a lot better than straight, flat black.

>>50090470
I knew someone would make the joke.

>>50090527
I'll think about the cork, thanks! A bigger base make it harder to make some actual texture and 3D mud since there's a bigger surface to cover.

>>50090547
>Just make a normal dread talon with missiles launchers

I can't because my slots are full. If Mortis dreads could be taken in squads, I could make one for my lascannon mortis.

>>50090552
>Flamestorm boxes or CCW with Heavy Flamer Contemptors.

Flamestorm and CCW with Heavy Flamer box, of course.

>>50090558
>Would you give Chem ammo to a Flamestorm cannon Boxnought? They are already AP3

Shred?

File: Happy squatting nigga.gif (6KB, 200x200px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 200x200px

>>50090420
A termie for the Bitter people! It is a good thing.

>>50090563
Looks nice! I love the leather color you have for the holsters and pouches. What colors did you use?

>>50090361
Yeah, what >>50090398 said, AP 3 might be a bit much. I would add 1 strength and AP, so it is Str 5, AP4. Then either add the shred, as the other anon said, or maybe even consider bumping it up to Str6 so it feels like a badass boomstick?

File: China lake.jpg (305KB, 664x1000px)

305KB, 664x1000px

>>50090625
>Str 5, AP4
It would feel like a portable Heavy Bolter.
So, IW's China Lake? Still awesome.

>>50090663
Yeah okay, fuck any other ideas. Shotgun heavy bolter it is!

Maybe some fluffy but wimpy leadership penelty rule just to get across how fucking awesome these things are. (just fucking give it the same shitty rule for the IW special heavy bolter anyway.... holy shit this is perfect).

>IW are bitter because nobody patted their heads for wasting men and resources
>meanwhile DG and WE are chill about it

really makes you think

>>50090696
It's because the IW didn't want to be the meat grinder legion, they wanted to be IFs

DG liked wasting men and resources

WE just didn't give a fuck

>>50090726
>IW didn't want to be the meat grinder legion
>"let's waste men anyway"

>>50090610 Thanks!

That's The Army Painter's Leather Brown with a Nuln Oil wash over it. TAP Leather Brown is supposed to be a close match to the old Citadel Foundation Calthan Brown, I think.

And now I'm sad that Foundation paints don't exist anymore...

>>50090563
Well shit, now I feel bad with my lonely low quality Terminator.
Jelly of those hazard stripes. Freehand or masking tape?

>>50090695
Say how about S5 only (still Heavy Bolter power, less penetration because shotgun barrel), but inflicted a -1Ld penalty on ranged morale tests on the enemy.
>>50090696
Horus patted Mortarion's head, but he was sad about it too. That's why Mortarion followed Horus: he was his only friend.

File: IMG_20160930_170541.jpg (2MB, 2448x3264px)

2MB, 2448x3264px

>>50090420
I see you're pretty loyal, I'm pretty loyal myself.

File: 09be1d0f61b358230238445aaddd79d3.jpg (43KB, 600x400px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 600x400px

>>50090789
>undrilled barrels

>>50090420
Nice IF!

>>50090789
I see moldlines, KA.

>>50090754
Freehand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5xalX3aKAs

>>50090737
It's more that they were put into situations and warzones where they couldn't not waste men

That and perturabo was an autistic fuck

>>50090852
>>50090826

>implying this is anything but the norm for KA

File: Death Guard - Morty.jpg (804KB, 924x1200px) Image search: [Google]

804KB, 924x1200px

>>50090593
>>50090438
For Destroyer Dreads, what about the Leviathan? He can have phosphex

And any dread with Missiles, if it has Frag Missiles, at least, can be a Destroyer if old man Mort takes to the field himself - he makes them poisoned

>>50090754
Followup to my other comment, I've found it's better and easier if you go with bigger, thicker stripes instead of lots of little ones. That way you have a lot of room to correct any mistakes by widening the black stripes and you're not so reliant on tidy brushwork.

Even my thinnest stripes are about 2mm wide.

>>50090852
Seems like you have Preferred Enemy (Moldlines)

>>50090757
I feel like the weapon could still use a rule like rending or shred. Some rule that justifies the explosions of gore that i imagine is involved with an astartes-sized shotgun fired at point blank [possibly extra rule within half (6'') range]?

>>50090889
>what about the Leviathan

Meh, it's more of a siege than a poison dread. Also, it'd have chem-flamers as secondary weapons, the arms wouldn't have anything Destroyer related.

>if old man Mort takes to the field himself

Creeping Death RoW makes frag grenades and missiles S5 due to chemical munitions.

>>50090789
In addition to what everyone else has said, you also put your weapons on backwards. Have fun shootin your dudes as they disembark!

>>50090754
Not him, but I find that the trick is to paint the stripes beyond the border - that way they maintain a more constant thickness. Then repaint said border.

>>50090923
Can't let people think you're not Iron Warriors, not can you?

>>50090923
https://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/2/2a/Land_Raider_Insides.png/500px-Land_Raider_Insides.png

I don't make the rules anon, I just follow them.

>>50090696
>IH just want everyone to excel/take initiative but can get annoyed when allies don't
>no illusions about being something "more" until task is done
>about "average chill" for a legion until betrayed by the two bros they sees most eye-to-eye with
>IW are pillars of salt from ol' decimator onward

inderdasting...

>>50090905
There's a reason when I suggested it I said IW Shrapnel Bolts, but that makes them harder to assault rather than killier

So I often see people talking about drilling barrels.
How does /hhg/ suggest one goes about drilling barrels on space marines?

>>50091092
Are you for real?
Take a knife and make a tiny hole in the middle of your barrel, just a small one to guide the bigger drill.
Use you handrill, done.
Always start with a smaller hole when you got to do a big hole. Goes for modelism and manual work as well.

>>50091092
Carefully, with a pin vice.

>>50091130
>Are you for real?
Not really, but since I see it brought up so often, might as well ask it because no one else has. Maybe it will help someone.

>>50091088
Well I proposed the -1Ld from a pic showing what overkill was like. I think it conveys what your friend suddenly exploding would feel like.
Also, the squad would have CCshovels and pistols, in order to better follow go melee on the poor sods. Obvs, they'd also have access to flamers (the crazy bastards), meltaguns and breacher charges.
I'm not sure about power weapons, their absense would make them automatically inferior to Vets. As if that wasn't the case with Vets vs everyone else, but you get my point.

>>50091170
Well it ain't exactly rocket science either. I'd be like someone asking "How do I paint stuff?"

>>50091196
desu with some of the things on here......

File: u_fukin_srs.gif (754KB, 388x264px)

754KB, 388x264px

>>50091170
No one asks because every sane person in this thread already nows how, and those who don't will generally go to /wip/ for hobby advice.

Stop being a faggot, don't ask stupid questions, and clear your name field for christ's sake.

>>50091222
I am happy to see the /hhg/ going back to shitting on namefaggers. It was getting a little out of control for a bit

>>50091196
...I guess I better ask for that in the /wip/ thread, huh. There's a place for everything, I guess.

>>50091220
wtf why did it change DESU to desu?

>>50091251
Caps Lock? :^)))

>>50091261
Dude that hilarious.
It changes the common abbreviation for the phrase' to be honest' to desu.
Holy shit that made my day

>>50091248
Not exactly.
Asking a legion color scheme or a certain way to do it fits the thread obviously.
On the other hand, asking how to do washes, or NMM would be out of context yes.

>>50091251
how new

>>50091368
I've just never used the t b h thing on 4chan before

>>50091389
baka desu senpai

>>50091405
Dude why are you speaking japanese lol

>>50091251
Hey, I didn't notice you were namefagging, since your name starts with A like Anonymous.
>>50091426
All of them are how /tg/ swaps words, F. A. M.
You may be a /k/ vet, but you're kind of new to /tg/. Still /k/ should allow spoilers.

>>50091426
This isn't me.... But 8/10, that freaked be out.

>>50091447
They should, a lot of people have been asking for it but I don't think it'll happen.

>>50091478
Well, a while ago we pulled a whole Spartacus on Curzefag, so be warned.
Woops ;^)

A dreadnought can replace their CCW with a TL HB. And they can replace their TL HB with various weapons. Likewise it can replace the TL HB with a CCW, which in turn can be replaced with other weapons.

Does this mean you can have a non-Mortis dread with two TL lascannons, or one with a siege wrecker and a chainfist?

File: Dark Angels.jpg (126KB, 904x558px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 904x558px

Were the Rangdan Xenocides against the Slaugth?

The Slaugth from the Dark Heresy books are canon, because one of Alpharius's origin stories has him captured by them, under pale stars in the galactic north in Horus Heresy Extermination. The Rangdan were described as originating from pale stars in the galactic north as well. It is also said in the DH books that the Slaugth got rekt in their distant past, and their numbers never recovered. Were these wormlike dudes the same ones the Dark Angels fought in the Horus Heresy?

>>50091519
I don't catch the Spartacus reference, and I don't think I did anything specific to Curze

>>50087715
Is that you dantioch?

When will you continue your ultras and iron warriors?

>>50091536
>HOLY SHIT A BOLTER
Lol every time

>>50091536
Maybe, we'll know for sure in 202X.

>>50091547
Shh, we're all Alpharius now.

>>50091564
Okay that's weird, I was going to say something like that....

File: IW War journal.png (549KB, 247x1189px)

549KB, 247x1189px

>>50091536
The Slaught are the guys who make time go haywire around them, right? If so, they are the Temporaferrox, and the IW fought them. That's Dantioch's backstory
>Captcha is trees
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>50091547
From before you arrived here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0

>>50091584
It's because I'm way too easy to imitate.

>>50091595

No, Slaugth are shapeshifting worm guys who eat raw flesh and are also psychic pariahs.

>>50091595
>Temporaferrox

Thats the Hrud that make everything around them decay rapidly.

>>50091595
>guys who make time go haywire around them, right

No, that's the Hrud. The Slaugth are composite xenos made of maggots.

File: This account is a lie.png (2MB, 1063x1440px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1063x1440px

>>50091626
>>50091611
>>50091622
Ohh right right, srry.
Well the Alphas did carry on a Bone-drinker species...and the IWs fought against some worm aliens, as related by Kharn. But they were probably other xenos.

>>50091595
riiiiiiight, okay
Well I am gonna keep the name, so yall can do your own thing.

>>50091664
If (You) weren't so stubborn and thick-headed people wouldn't be butt-mad at you, but that's the thing, you don't even care about it. "Such is my will, u mad faggets?" Disgusting. I'm a tripfag, I'm closer to hell, and even I find you obnoxious and annoying. At least Curzefag had a certain...a certain something that made it tolerable. Not you.
That's why people get angry at you. Not so much because you're a namefag, but mainly because of your attitude.

>>50091776
Hey man, that sounds like your problem. If you don't like the name, don't read it.

>>50091664
Hey man dont make angrier! Im angry and wite!

File: You're not wrong.jpg (47KB, 394x406px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 394x406px

>>50091794
And I though Dorn was stubborn...

>>50091794
This isn't the real AWG

>>50091776
I was never intending it to be a 'u mad' kinda thing- the name is Ironic, because most of the time I am very chill, and because of that it really doesn't bother me when people do or saying things because of the name.

My attitude? I try to be relaxed, informative, and helpful on here. I don't pick fights (Although a few have found me) and I try to stay on topic but this keeps happening.
TO BE CLEAR- What I meant by my
>Well I am gonna keep the name, so yall can do your own thing.
Is that I don't care if people like >>50091794 take my name for a few posts and shit post with it. I have a bunch of models to assemble right now.

>>50091536
I'm pretty sure the Rangda were their own thing.

I'm pretty sure most of the Xenos encountered during the Crusade were their own thing and are completely extinct by the time of the Heresy.

We need more Chaos Xenos, though. Chaos being a humans only club is silly and takes away from the impressiveness of Chaos.

File: Rangdan Xenocides.png (670KB, 670x502px)

670KB, 670x502px

>>50091878
I thought the Rangdan Xenocides were the killing of the xenos called/found on Rangda, a threat so big it supposedly put in danger the whole northern Imperium. The DA lost 50 000, and other legions also participated. In fact the Death Guard suffered so many loses that Mortarion decided to make an exception and recruit from places other than Barbarus, which led to Crysos Morturg being inducted.
But the UM were busy legion-building.
>>50091877
Kek, I guess (You) do try

>>50091877
I wonder why a declared identity in an anonymous culture keeps being targeted for mockery too, man. It's a fucken mystery is what it is.

I'll go think about it while I start looking at all the models I have to make, but hey, just to be helpful and get people talking, does anyone know how to thin paints?

>>50091878
Like the Yu'vath.

>>50092127
Yeah, I've heard you add milk to them?

>>50092127
>I wonder why a declared identity in an anonymous culture keeps being targeted for mockery too, man. It's a fucken mystery is what it is.

Because nobody cares who you are and namefagging is just drawing attention to yourself.

>>50092140
does this work (WS, WE)?

>>50092194
Well thank God you're anonymous.

>>50092208
I think it'd work better for Death Guard. After a week or so, your model's scent would be really accurate to the fluff.

>>50092140
The real me suggests Distilled water.

>>50092208
No.

>>50091952
NEED TO KNOW MORE INTENSIFIES

Anyone able to give me a brief run down on the difference between Imp Fists, Iron Hands and Dork Angles? Having a lot of trouble settling what chapter I want to paint my stuff as and I want to get Forgeworld shoulders for all my little prospero dudes.

>>50092343
>Imp Fists

You like siege warfare and dakka?

>Iron Hands

Iron within, iron without.

>Dork Angles

Knights in space.

>>50092343
IF - Good with bolters, HSS hunt tanks, Termies can have Stormshields, Sigismund is a beast

IH - resilient against shooting, best legion to spam vehicles, don't always feel like running down units.

DA - really meh legion rules with a hefty downside, OP legion specific wargear and ROW