Weeeeeeeh, guys, I want to take a reeeeest. >t. every caster ever

What sort of idiot would call himself a wizard without a shitton of scrolls and a wand or two to supplement his spell list?
Harrumph, I say!

>>49993668
>Warlock

>>49993668
>every caster
Casters are usually reliant on long rests and have a pool of resources as deep as the ocean because of that.
The ones who whine for rests constantly are the little battlemasters and warlocks who got shafted with abilities that they can use maybe two times and then they need to sit down and catch their breath for an hour because they're just totally exhausted after two uses.

>>49993668
It's 'cause of shit like this that this Sunday I'm gonna die to a blue dragon attacking a village.

Well, that and the fact that when I wrote "Good" on my character sheet, I meant it.

>>49993948
That sounds like a story.

>>49993948
Hey, are you that anon playing the CG Drow rogue from couple of days ago who asked for help on how to fight Blue Dragon by yourself and buy time for the village to evacuate? If so, remember: get on the head, stab out the eyes with the poison/acid dagger(s), go for the webbing on one of his wings, bail, and book it while calling him a little bitch, mask your scent in the burning cinders, and play a deadly game of hide and seek/Marco Polo till help arrives (and for bonus points, find a way to drop the two vials of dragon poison into his nostrils to nuke his sense of smell).

>>49993668
This is solved by not having a shit gm or leaving the bitch/bastard behind.

>>49993668
>weeeeh guys I need to heal muh hitpoints
>weeeh I'm out of rages
>da bad monstr guys dun got me all tuckrd out
>plz clrik hel me plz plz i ned a heeeeel
t. every martial ever

>>49994231
It's about to be one, anyway. I promised to keep /tg/ posted, and I will.

Hang on, let me dig up the thread where I asked for advice, about a week back...

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49825846/

>>49994405
>Hey, are you that anon playing the CG Drow rogue from couple of days ago who asked for help on how to fight Blue Dragon by yourself and buy time for the village to evacuate?

I am, and I saved all the advice from that thread.

I think the wyvern poison would be better served on my arrows. With two vials I can dose up to six arrows with poison. While the arrows aren't magical, and the dragon can auto-save against the poison, if I get off a ranged sneak attack that's still 1d6+5/ (bow) plus 6d6 (sneak attack) plus 7d6 (poison). Even halving all the damage with resistance and a successful save still gives an average of 27 damage/hit, and allows me to stay at range.

Attack, run away, hide, repeat.

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>>49993668
>Group got tired of baby-tier dungeons and hand holding from other GM so we swapped for a much higher level difficulty campaign/setting
>Be sole healer for group with two other spell casters and three martials
>DM "Okay, everyone bought everything they want to at the marketplace?"
>Rest "Yeah"
>Me "Wait, is no one else going to get potions?"
>Rest "We have you man, why would we need potions?"
>Me "..."
>Get to dungeon but no one attempts to scout ahead or do any sort of careful movement to the entrance
>Traps are triggered, sentries attack us, and I have to already use a few consumables and healer's kit charges before even entering
>they run in like idiots to every room and corridor even after I ask to maybe have something resembling a formation
>By the third room I've completely exhausted my potions on my "teammates" and can't use the healer's kit again yet
>Seemingly halfway through the dungeon I have spent all of my first and second level spellslots on healing and have now healed over 220hp over the course of damn near an hour of session time
>Me "Guys, if we're not going to do this like a group that actually has a plan I can't keep healing you like this. We need to take a rest so I can continue to heal you guys."
>Rest "The other casters still have all their spellslots so we'll be fine when the big bad comes around"
>Get to the end of the dungeon and enemy horde with a boss of a CR higher than ours by 2
>wizard uses fly in a cave that has a ceiling of 15 feet, is instantly taken out on the enemies turn by a firing squad of arrows, rocks, bolts, and a lightening bolt spell to the face (the lightening bolt ended up killing him as he had near no HP left)
>warlock has nothing but single target damaging spells so front line gets overrun by the horde
>team is wondering where the heals are
>was already retreating when the wizard went down and out by the time the last player died

Don't want to be stressed? Just take the long rest.

>>49994465
I'll take things that don't happen but threeaboo wizard-only players would bitch about for 500

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>>49994444
>This is solved by not having a shit gm
>gm
>having anything to do with players spending their spell slots irresponsibly

>>49994465
Most of those can be done in a short rest. I know OP didnt specify the difference in the post but most spellcasters need a long rest to get their shit back.

Having to wait 30 minutes can be done relatively safely in many dungeon delving or BBEG fortress assaulting instances. 8 hours? Not so much.

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>>49994776
>Don't want to be stressed? Just take the long rest.

That's what I was trying to do! Then this blue motherfucker shows up! All I wanted as a hot meal and a warm bed. You think I *want* to fight a blue dragon when I only have 22 hit points remaining?!

IT'S A DRAGON.
IN ANY FIGHT WITH A DRAGON, YOU ARE LOSING UNTIL IT IS DEAD EVEN IF YOU START WITH FULL HEALTH.
I AM NOT STARTING WITH FULL HEALTH.

>>49994857
A short rest is 1 hour.

>>49994874
>that pic

I'm not sure if that Dragon is a bro or a dick. On the one hand, that's a pretty well-kept hedge maze, and he'd probably be needing to ensure good rainfall in the region to keep it verdant.

On the other hand, I'm sure he blasts anyone that gets too close to the exit with lightning, meaning the maze is kinda pointless.

>>49994883
Still, barring the door and taking a break for one hour is easy. It's pretty much breaking for lunch.

Even if your DM is rolling for wandering monsters, would you rather triger 1 roll in 1 hour, or 8 in 8 hours?

Plus, even if you can't sleep in the middle of the dungeon, leaving for 1 hour isn't enough time for those further inside to discover what you've done and either hunt you down or reinforce their remaining defenses.

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>>49994899
>not simply digging under the maze

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>>49994913
Ah, but I am playing a Rogue (thief). I have nothing that recharges in a short rest except for hit points, and I ran out of Hit Dice a whole short rest ago.

>>49994899
The dragon has nothing to do with the maze or the tower, both of which are magical. The maze is kept magically verdant, while the tower is...well, pic related.

The blue dragon shows up afterwards and is the complete opposite of a bro. Bros don't attack helpless villagers.

>>49993668
Play less D&D.

>>49994952
If players have ran out of Hit Dice then it should be safely assumed that the healer's ran out of spell slots awhile ago. Stop being silly, and take a long rest.

>Bros don't attack helpless villagers.
They do if a traveling band of adventurers, that have just slain a beast that had killed tens of them, are not at least given semi-adequate compensation in the form of entertainment, a warm bed, and the village chief's daughter for a night since they couldn't be assed to do anything else passed a pat on the back and a job well done.

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>>49994951
>that greentext
Fuck dude

>>49993668
I know it's unprofessional to ask, but what does the "t." stand for?

I get what it means from context, but I keep seeing it and I'm quite confident at this point that lurk moaring won't get me an answer.

>>49995068
It's niggerspeak. It's shorthand for the n-dash that precedes the name of the person that said the quote written before it. Yes, they're that retarded.

>>49993668
>not gingerly holding the mage in your big, strong, fightin' man arms
>not stroking her hair until she falls asleep
Confirmed pleb.

>>49995120
How is that retarded?

>>49994952

I remember that encounter. We just teleported home after clearing the tower though, never even saw the dragon.

>>49995120
What? No, it's not. It's more finnish memes, like spurdo, you fucking idiot.

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>>49993668
Boo hoo hoo~ My big dumb muscles huuuurrt. I need healing magic.

>Every martial sword man ever

>>49995187
>finnish

It's fucking german you mong.

>>49994572
I do not envy you right now. Good luck.

>>49993668
>not giving them a piggyback and letting them rest while you continue on

And you call yourself a martial?

>>49993668
>>49995193
Once more, problems you wouldn't have if you played 4e.

>>49993668
>Weeeeeeeh, guys, I want the Barbarian's cock in my moooooouth.
>t. every female caster ever

You know what robes are for? Easy access to silky smooth, magically tight caster puss.

>>49995578
Correct response. That or princess carry.

>>49994572
You should have no trouble staying hidden, but you need some way to deal with that frightful presence and the wis save.

>>49995578
My current party has a wagon wherein the sleepy party members sleep while 2-3 of us do a bit of travel / an unlikely encounter.

>>49995578
>Reasons to play a small-sized spellcaster

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>>49993668
>Implying the caster runs out of spell slots before the fighter runs out of hp

>>49996713
Well the fighter will probably spend the adventure sitting in the tavern drinking through his starting gold allowance while the wizard singlehandedly completes the adventure, so it's a distinct possibility unless a barfight starts.

>>49996713
The caster in the op uses a mana based system, only knows one spell, and that spell uses all her mana

Still best girl though

>>49996766
Please tell me this is from a comedy story. If you're really expecting me to take this kind of character seriously, YOU ARE STYUUPID, YOU ARE STYUUPID, and most importantly, YOU ARE STYUUPID!

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>>49996934
>He hasn't watched KonoSuba
Drop whatever you're doing and go watch it RIGHT NOW. Like Dungeon Meshi, it's more or less obligatory study material for /tg/.

>>49996934
It's comedy not-quite-harem-anime. The other three characters are a low-stat hero from Japan who's basically slightly smart and genre savvy, a literal goddess arch-cleric who is as dumb as a sack of nails without the nails inside, and a masochist paladin tank girl who can't hit the broadside of a barn with a sword.

>>49993668
t. a shitty caster
Have always played casters and never ever became Megumin. That's what you get for wasting all your spell slots on maximized empowered twinned enlarged repeated fireballs.

>>49993668
Usually it's the Monk in our group that wants a rest.
The only one who never cares about them's the Rogue, they could go all day.

>>49997021
Megumin would be pretty useful in most D&D settings.

She's a 1-2 shot artillery piece that can nuke cities.

>>49993668
playing a focused specialist conjurer, that's literally what martials say in my group. well, and the cleric, because he plays a retard healbot

>>49995194
Read a book.

Terveisin
Anon

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>>49996950
>Comparing Konosuba and Dungeon Meshi like the former even remotely lives up to the latter.

>>49997130
She can't even blow up one entire castle in six months of explosion spells, brah.

>>49996950
No, not really. It's a campaign where there's no plot and every player is a That Guy and all their characters are bland chaotic-randumbs with a single defining character trait. It's not "study material" unless you're studying how to do everything wrong.

Luckily at 10 episodes long, the series doesn't burn out it's punchline of "watch everything go wrong" too quickly, but I wouldn't really call ther series "good" or "insightful" in any way. There's nothing here the typical /tg/ player can really learn from, or even draw from for inspiration.


>>49997184
Dungeon Meshi is a legit 10/10 campaign with lots of character development, a plot thats complex without being overly complicated, and still manages to have humor without being a parody of itself (once the story gets past it's admittedly slow start and gets rolling in earnest).
Dungeon Meshi anime when?

>>49997311
>Dungeon Meshi anime when?
I'm not sure if that would even work. Every chapter is a separate little adventure (that does fit in the grand scheme of things) and it's not enough to fill 30 minutes. If there's ever a Dungeon Meshi anime, I'd prefer it if it was a short like Galko: 10 minutes per episode (with maybe a 30 minute finale for the Red Dragon chapters).

>>49997311
Hopefully never. The art style wouldn't work in anime and I fear that the anime wouldn't be able to capture parts of the humor and charm of the series without sticking extra bits left over from generic comedy anime.

>>49997350
When you put it like that, I actually have to agree with you... as much as I hate to admit it.

Manga are usually a good deal better than their animated series by default anyway.

Still sure even a series of Dungeon Meshi shorts would be better than 90% of what passes for "adventure" anime though.

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>>49997350
Generally speaking comedy manga are better than comedy anime in my opinion. I don't really know how to express it in words, but in manga the "timing" of a lot of jokes somehow feels better. In terms of pure action (well animated) anime trumps manga though.

>>49994572
The less senses he has working, the better your chances for survival are

One sense gone: crippled but still dangerous
Two senses gone: Hellen Keller pre- being able to communicate, but giant and with fire breath
Three senses gone: A savage beast that can only lash out at the source of whatever stimuli he has left.

>>49997404
Dungeon Meshi and Konosuba have both though. And they're both better for it because the action feels more intense when it DOES happen (and in Meshi's case, alot more serious).

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>>49993668
Obligatory

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>>49997184
>Not enjoying a fantastic anime/LN that takes the piss out of the cesspit that is the isekai genre

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>>49997447
When did a genre get so bad that it's considered "clever" to point out how bad it is. It's the equivalent of "Haha! I was only PRETENDING to be retarded!"

Like yeah, it CAN be a little funny, but fuck, give me something more to work with.

>>49997447
Taking the piss out of something is easy. Doing something WELL is difficult. This is why I said the two wern't even remotely comparable.

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>>49997473
>Not playing a campaign where everyone is an anime character
>Not playing a bunch of sexy anime archetypes (the genki tomboy fighter, the onee-san cleric, the tsundere wizard and the gap-moe slut-who's-actually-a-virgin rogue) on a quest to save Senpai from an evil dragon

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>>49997311
>Not realizing that KonoSuba is a parody of standard RPG tropes and takes it seriously.

>>49997473
I personally feel like Konosuba does a really good job of deconstructing the genre by realizing that a neet who gets offed and ends up in a fantasy world will probably be a really lazy dude who fucks around and doesn't get milquetoast at the thought of getting to touch a titty.

Just because it parodies the genre while doing it rather than going the dark and serious path that a lot of deconstructions tend to doesn't make it's deconstruction any less valid and thought out.

>>49997504
I don't think it's serious. I just think that the style of humor that points how bad standard tropes are, without adding anything new original, isn't really that good either.

It's basically like acting stupid and going "but I was only joking, so that shows how much smarter and better I am!" without actually doing anything better or smarter.

>>49993668
Yep, just had a caster blow through their spells during an assault on an enemy stronghold. But hey, they can pull up a pocket dimension to rest safely!

Which gave their now alerted foes an hour to evacuate their noncombatants, captives, important items and to set up their defenses and traps even better than before.

>>49997618
Everyone else doesn't have to rest, numbnuts. Surely you can have the ranger and other dude pick off the other folks if you're encircling the enemy base?

>>49996950
Barring the succubus episode, which was hilarious, it's an otherwise completely forgettable comedy.

>>49993668
Long rests were a mistake. They should only serve to heal serious injuries and fatigue, not be the baseline for a character.

>>49997631
They were already inside the base, and all opted to rest or take watches for the couple hours the casters needed, in case the entrance to the hideaway was found.

>>49997145
>focused specialist conjurer
How can you live with yourself?

>>49997504
It's a parody, but not a very good one (and not of RPG tropes in particular). It only goes about as far as patting itself on the back for being self-aware about what awful schlock fantasy isekai has become, before proceeding to become exactly what it was mocking. It never builds on what little cleverness it starts out with, instead allowing it to bleed away until the later episodes just become generic isekai with comedy overtones.

> Hey DM I want to use this cool weapon
> No you can't
> Hey DM I need 376 perfect gemstones, ancient mummy lich dust and 12 prismatic dragon scales to prepare my spells
> Sure thing the local village store gives it away for free

>>49997899
That's pretty cheesy powergaming in 3.5e, but conjuration is a pretty "subtle" school so maybe he just buffs the fuck out of the rest of his party to the point of trivializing every encounter.

>>49996950
>>49996987
Did none of you get the blatant Dexter's Lab reference?

>>49997979
Transmutation is buffing, conjuration is summonings, fogs and teleporting shenanigans

>>49997635
Comedy is very subjective, anon. It's fine for you not to think its funny. People somehow find sitcoms funny, and I don't even smile watching these. I find Konosuba funny, you don't. No harm done there.

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>>49994874
That's just a professional hermit dragon that's resting on a folly in a country estate. That hedge maze is clearly far too well maintained and put together to not cost and require a large amount of man power and the tower is clearly a pastiche of several archictectural designs that make no real discernible sense. You think you're attacking a dragon guarding treasure? No, you're trespassing on a wealthy gentleman's manicured property and attacking his employees.

>>49997304
Sounds like you didn't read the part where the dark lord's minions had to fix the castle very day

>>49997473
>>49997558
>>49997973
The idea that you have to add something entirely new to a genre to do it well is pure cancer.

Konosuba's strengths are its genuinely funny humour, its mostly pretty compelling characters, and its tone. What's quite nice about it is also how well it builds its retarded fantasy world, and how consistent it is. Despite having stuff like levels, the setting manages to feel far more organic and lived in than that of isekai tales, and it doesn't just seem like a generic RPG world with a genre savvy character there to exploit it. It's really nice how elements of the world come up even when not plot relevant, just as side things that give the story character, which is something a lot of legitimate fantasy stories struggle to do properly.

Opinions.jpg and shit, but at least try to criticize what you're talking about properly.

>>49993668
When dub?

>>49995068
It's "regards" in Finnish

>>49999296
Thank you.

>>49998018
>>>/co/

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>>49993873
Warlock just wants the party to stop for second breakfast, and elevensies, and lunch, and teatime, and supper, and...
Most full casters want to stop after 2 hours and spend the rest of the day getting pedicured by their familiars and reading or drawing shit, like pansy elves.
IT'S NICE THAT YOU SPEND 6 DAYS OF YOUR WEEK EATING FRUIT AND MAKING CALLIGRAPHY IL'DENIOR, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME EVEN DISREGARDING THE AWAKENING LICH.

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>girl in my playgroup recently got into KonoSuba
>thinks Aqua is hilarious
>wants to play her in our next game

>>49999289
February

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>>50001991
If she wants to be Aqua, help her out.
Bully her constantly.

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>>50001991
I don't see the problem. Or are you one of those faggots who thinks taking inspiration from pop culture characters is a bad thing? As long as the character doesn't utterly clash with the tone of the setting, it's fine. Aqua should fit as long as it isn't GrimDark (and even in GrimDark, having a character so utterly unprepared for everything would be funny. It's the ultimate way to bully the goddess).

>>50001991
Honestly it sounds hilarious. Start her with a custom epic tier character with divine level purifaction feats and insane party tricks. Girls are terrible gamers so she'll naturally be useless to further drive the point home.

Please tell me you aren't all plebs and some of you have read the light novel or the subpar translation anyway.

>>49993829
>i am always prepared, never without resources, cant be caught off guard, and have a wicked sense of humor

Every caster ever.

>>50002145
FYI some of Aqua's abilities include:
> Perfect natural night vision- "what do you mean it's pitch black?"
> Divine undead attraction - "They seek salvation from the goddess"
> Epic spell break- " Enough to shatter a demon boss' fortress shield"
> purify water on touch- passive and always active. it in fact will ruin potions/drinks and can even destroy spas.
> Purify curse on touch- passive and always active. Will ruin any kind of evil enchantments
> Bottomless tear ducts- Yep.
> invisible panties - so perverts can't look at them
> Her divine garb- some kind of artifact with insane resistances
> Anti belief aura- But she's really a goddess! Honest!
> Party tricks- can perform amazing street level magic like making things larger, smaller, or making them disappear. Like. forever.
> Epic origami- Can even make a mobile suit that transforms, defying euclidean logic.

>>50002222
You forgot IQ of 30

>>50002222
>Invisible panties
That's...........

>>50002222
She's also a great engineer and architect.

>>49997473
>>49997511
Konosuba is more of a satire than just parody. The setting, though initially as a typical Dragon Quest copy, is actually a fantasy equivalent of Australia that is comedically absurd, absurdly terrifying and yet internally consistent in a way that has small elements of the setting build on each other.
The main cast may be mostly composed of That Guys that are characterized each by their personal running jokes, but there is a layer of depth to their characterization that lies in the fact that while they are bumbling morons whose failures are always the result of their follies, they are not simply like that to take a piss out of the isekai genre, as they still organically interact with the setting instead of being just forced into the roles of crash test dummies for the author's whims. There is a very real sense that, as absurd as the characters are, they are very much people actually attempting to live within this world, even if it's limited to a small town and its surroundings by the end of the first season.

>>50002346
She can create incredible fortifications and defenses,, but they HAVE to be Aqua church themed.

Her party trick performances let her restore morale to the most shattered broken down forces and restore vitality to soldiers.

Plus she has the usual healer's bag of Buffs, boss-purging exorcisms and can casually spam heal/Rez/decurse.

>>50002388
>>50002222
>>50002145
Almost forgot
> Divine debt acquisition- Can't hold on to a gold coin to save her life

I guess the point I'm trying to drive home here is that Aqua is in fact a SUPER competent and overly powered character. She just happens to be played by a complete retard, leading to SHENANIGANS

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>>49997504
Honestly KonoSuba is just a lesser version of 8-Bit theatre. I say lesser because it's heavily reliant on one note jokes.

>>50002332

Maybe it makes her invisible as well. Just what the panties would cover. SO if you look under her skirt there's just this empty gap where the pelvis is supposed to be.

>>50002491
Given how stupid she actually is I'm not sure that would actually occur to her.

>>50002093
What are you talking about? Anime always clashes with every game.

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>>49997130

>>49995842

More like a Paladin's Pocket Pussy. Small-sized spellcasters are the sluttiest things imaginable.

So who was it?
>>50000000

>>50003017
Baka.

>>50003017
Touhou got it.

>>50002153
Can't read moon runes, and the few light novels I have read that were translated were translated so blandly I couldn't keep reading

>>50002145

Pretty much. I could give Aqua to the girl at my table as well and she probably would be as useless, as pathetic and as dependent on guidance from the less optimized characters as the genuine article.

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>>50003017

>>50002332

Remember that KonoSoba is a masochist woman's magical realm.

>>50003208
Also she's good friends with re:Zero's author who is a sadistic guy that likes shitting all over his main character.

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>>50003208
>>50003246
Why aren't they fugging yet?

>>49995120
It's literally shorthand for the finnish word for regards, you retarded /pol/ faggot.

>>50003454
She's a woman that likes the shitty main character bullying shitty female characters.
He's a man who likes bullying shitty male characters.

It's a match made so close to heaven that it could never live up to the hype.

>>49994820
Only a shit gm allows you to safely rest with enemies 20ft away.

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>>50003208
I wonder who is her self-insert

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>>50004081
Women shouldn't be submissive to men weaker than themselves.

>>50004347
>Women shouldn't be submissive to men weaker than themselves
Why not? What makes you the expert on submission? Have you been in a BDSM relationship or are you just talking out of your ass?

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>>50004429
It's more a thing of credibility to me. If the submissive side is obviously and unquestionably the stronger one, it feels more staged rather than being true domination. The recieving side isn't so much submissive as it is tolerating whatever the dominating side does.

That's probably just me though.

>>49993873
I just want to take a quick nap or brunch. Its not like I want to call the whole day like some arthritis riddled fag who studied all day.

>>50004347
Technically, Baqua is also stronger than Kazuma

>>50004465
strength has little to do in the bedroom anon. Especially when someone can push your buttons

>>50004465
So no, you haven't been in a BDSM relationship. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>50004465
But the sub is the one with all the power because the sub decides the limits, the sub decides when to start and stop, the sub is truly the one making all the decisions.

>>49997635
By that you mean probably the funniest anime in existence, right?

>>50005203
>By that you mean probably the funniest anime in existence, right?
The only people who could genuinely think this are either a) retarded or b) only watch FotM anime and have been watching for less than a year

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>>50005308
>Only a retard could disagree with me
>>>/a/

Rolled 2 (1d4)

>>49994776
>Take long rest
>Get ambushed by the horde and boss, surprise round they target the healer first
what now genious?

>>50005575
>genious

I watched the first few episodes of KonoSuba it's so lewd and childish; half the show is just comments about panties and tits and characters acting lewd. It's like it's for horny virgin NEETs and I feel gross watching it.

>>50007394
Not every episode is like that. Too many of them are, but not all of them. When it gets away from the otaku pandering, it gets pretty funny. It's no masterpiece, if you don't like it don't feel obligated, but it's not as bad as the first episode purports.

Also skip the OVA episode, it's really worthless.

>>50007875
I watched 4/10 episodes, that's enough to get a pretty good idea of what a show looks like. I have no problem with sex in anime, but it's done in such a childish and pandering way.

>>49995120
You bloody retard. It is shortening of word terveisin which means regards just like another anon said. It is a meme here in boards. Lurk more.

t. fin

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>>50007875
>didn't watch the OVA

It's like you have terrible taste

>>49996987

Actually, compared to the caster, he's of an equivalent CR, it's just that he has constitution as his dump stat so he ends up with the least HP out of the entire party.

>>50002172
When you're a divination wizard with decent CHA and an arsenal of magical arms, how can you not?

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>>50005575
>genious

>>50004465

That's dumb, you could dominate a person though all sorts of ways that aren't physical. Like emotionally, or heirarchialy, or religiously, or my personal favorite, financially.

If you have that mindset any combo of body types makes sense in any regard.

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>>50007875
>skip the OVA episode
Cunt

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>>49993668
>5e
>tfw playing with a harsh but fair GM
>tfw he wants a new group
>he invites you to the game, to keep you around
>the new players say they understand the concept of consequences for their actions
>worry.jpg
>one makes a fighter, one a ranger for some reason maybe because he thought they are actually good at long-range DPT and one makes a wizard
>I decide to go with life domain cleric for the healing and buffing
>only the wizard buys a health potion
>on the first session, where we delve into an abandoned prison, the party doesn't scout and doesn't do stealth at all
>wizard went with blaster spells for more ranged damage
>fighter rushes ahead and is ambushed by a couple of bugbears, hobgoblins rush our wizard and ranger
>almost TPK because of completely idiotic decisions and worse positioning
>mfw I have to heal them all
>mfw we will all probably die in the second session

Being a healer is suffering...

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>>50003202

>*You* come to frogs

You're not wrong, Cirno.

You're not wrong.

>>50001643
I want to play a halfling warlock now

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>>50011104
He is truly your only hope.
At least you are lucky enough to be the healer.

>>50011208
> Maining a healer
It's like you literally enjoy being a doormat. Healer is the least fun, most helpless and most abused archetype that should never exist in any setting.

>>50011291
Depends on how you heal things.
I had a character I played that healed people by beating other people into pulp.

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>>50011291
Bruh

>>49994776
GMs, if you want to make all of your players buy potions, set an arbitrary cap on how many potions a single character can have at a time. It worked for wards in League of Legends, so it should work for potions in your game.

>>50011291

You don't have to play a divine caster to be a healer. Play a mothertrucking barber-surgeon, and heal them by burning, cutting and scarring them. They'll think twice before stepping into traps.

>>50011417

Pretty bad for immersion, when it's so simple to fix this much more elegantly : just say that healing potions work like a drug : take too much in a day/hour, you get side effects. Take too much too often, you get addicted.

Of course you should warn the players that this is a risk, no one likes an arbitrary change of rules, and the character will feel sick before actually being in danger of overdosing.

Fuck man, this actually makes me feel bad because i'm "this guy"
Playing a cleric but i'm the only caster in a party with a Barbarian, Ranger, and Fighter-rouge
Want to be useful and give our party some access to offensive magic so I bought the spell compendium book and dug though every book i own for cleric spells.

find some good go-to at various levels, give me a good mix of buffing, healing, and blasting, but feel bad i'm slowing the party down since i'm the ONLY one who needs to rest and they don't want to risk going into battle with their one magic-source drained
feels kinda bad man

>>50011436
Limit healing potions to your CON modifier + 2 per day. So base con gets 2 potions, 16Con/+3 gets 5 potions, and a sickly -2 character gets none. Further potions induce potion sickness, penalizing CON/maxHP until restored with a LOT of rest.

If you're playing 5e, just use the Healing Surge variant.

>>50011990
But healing surges are dumb and break character.

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>>50012144

Not they're not.

Make it so they only happen when your character is bloodied (half health or lower) and it's just a reflavored spike / burst of adrenaline.

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>>50004081
Actually she said in an interview awhile back that it was one of the other girls...

>>49993668
>every game is deendee
Thank fuck it's not, and only retards like you have to suffer through this torture.

>>50012411
>only DnD has a system where characters run out of energy/mana/vitae/etc.

>>49994810
>cleric gib hps
Here you go, but buy a Healing Belt at some point, k?
>am out of raeg
This rarely happens and is never a dealbreaker. Barbarians can smash faces without raging.

>>50011134
Frog is not for lewd

>>50012447
At the level of requiring "rests", and where such an idea would ever even be necessary, yes. Other than deendee and its clones, there are essentially no games which base themselves on the idea of "encounters" and combat so heavily. You mention vitae, so a perfect example: VtM. Like most WoD games, VtM is about social situations and investigation, and combat, when it does happen, is significant and sensical. There are no random field battles, there are no dungeons, there is no need to rest. Furthermore, combat abilities are not special, they are rolled exactly like any other roll, with the attribute dice added to the ability dice. Your Dexterity+Melee is not mechanically different from your Perception+Occult because they matter equally.

On the other hand, deendee, being an absurd game-y piece of garbage, has no meaningful mechanics for anything outside of combat. This is because deendee is not an RPG, it's a skirmish wargame.

>>50012555
I've been playing VtR for over a year, and maybe we're playing it wrong, but there are times when we need to either feed or run because we're running short of vitae.

>>49998018
>typing "stupid" weird is a "blatant" Dexter's lab reference
we're not mind readers m8

>>50012597
I haven't played nWoD so I can't comment on that, but I've played and ran VtM (and other cWoD games) for over ten years now, and in my experience it's quite rare that you put yourself in a situation where you burn through more than half your pool in a fight.

That said, if you do end up in that position, it's almost certainly a better idea to run away than fight it out to the death. Vampires, even the militant clans, aren't warriors - those are the werewolves and hunters - they're manipulators and thieves. If you need to fight someone you do it with a lot of backup from fellow kindred or at least some hulked up ghouls.

>>50012669
>Vampires, even the militant clans, aren't warriors - those are the werewolves and hunters - they're manipulators and thieves.
Gangrel, Brujah and Salubri Warrior Caste break that mold pretty hard.

>>50012946
Even the strongest vampire has to keep a handle on their powers, lest they break the masquerade due to some random schmuck witnessing you throwing a pickup truck with one hand.

>>50012555
>This is because deendee is not an RPG, it's a skirmish wargame.

Oh hey Wick, didn't know you posted on /tg/.

>>50013041
Have you ever read the core rule book of any deendee edition?

60% of the book is dedicated towards magic, 35% is dedicated towards combat, and 5% is dedicated to actual flavor.

Even fucking Shadowrun has sections within the book that go into detail on the actual setting but not deendeee.

>>50013082
Have you ever read the DMG? Protip: There are 3 core rulebooks, not 1

>>50013107
Why would I, as a player, bother to read the DMG?

The PHB is where I'm supposed to get the most information on how to play and how to exist within the setting. If the PHB is more concerned with the mechanics than building the world that we're expected to play in by default, it's a skirmish system, plain and simple.

Compare it to ShadowRun or nWoD, which gives you ample amounts of world building and information on the finer details of the setting as it also teaches you how to play the game. Those are actual RPGs because they actually get you into the roleplay, in addition to the game.

>>50013082
>Even fucking Shadowrun has sections within the book that go into detail on the actual setting but not deendeee.
Personally, I have to admit that this frustrates me, too, when I play. D&D has a lot of settings, though, so I'm not sure how you'd manage this other than devoting some serious space to describing Forgotten Realms, Eberron, Grayhawk etc.

>>50013145
While I admit that there is far too little RP information - primarily due to being so many gosh darn settings - if your group can't RP in the world they're given then they are dumb dumbs. A short section on making characters together, building characters with the whole group in mind, asking DMs about the world, or session 0 would be nice though.

>>50013244
You'd manage this by picking one fucking setting and releasing added material on parallel settings such as Forgotten Realms, Eberron, and Dark Sun.

I mean, the splats literally write themselves but they focus on just the mechanics instead because it's a skirmish game.

>>50013381
>if your group can't RP in the world they're given then they are dumb dumbs
It can be hard if you have a DM who doesn't mind running a "generic" campaign. I once had that playing at the FLGS. I wanted to pick a god to worship but he just told me to look at the PHB appendix, which lists pantheons of gods from basically every D&D setting ever, plus some from real mythology. I had to go online to find out we were playing in Faerun and read up on what they were actually like.
In his defense, it was a rather hectic store campaign, and he had to deal with people dropping and coming in on ridiculously short notice. He was pretty burned out.
>A short section on making characters together, building characters with the whole group in mind, asking DMs about the world, or session 0 would be nice though.
There's stuff about the second two in the DMG. I like the bit about giving the players a little handout to read with essential setting information that can also have house rules, but none of my GMs have ever done that.

>>50013381
> if your group can't RP in the world they're given then they are dumb dumbs.

Here's the thing though, what world are we honestly given?

What part in the PHB actually describes which setting, out of the dozens of settings in D&D, that you're actually using?

Because the setting of forgotten realms is way fucking different than eberron, greyhawk, dark sun, or planescape.

>>50013453
>I like the bit about giving the players a little handout to read with essential setting information that can also have house rules
I always did this without reading the DMG. It just seems so normal to create a little 2 or 3 page dossier detailing both the nature of the campaign and the background. I just post it on Facebook and make sure that all my players see it. I've been doing this since I was 15.

>>50013493
>What part in the PHB actually describes which setting, out of the dozens of settings in D&D, that you're actually using?
It can't because the PHB is the core book for not only a bunch of official settings but for homebrew ones as well. It would have been a decent idea to have a few pages dedicated to each of the major official settings, even if it's crazy brief.

>>50013516
If you don't give the players any information to use as a baseline, they won't have any idea of what to expect.

Take Shadowrun for example, in that world, mega-corps have taken over the world, the environment is shitty, magic is running amok, and most of the population has been mutated into elves, trolls, orcs, and dwarves.

It gives you details that paint the world as a dystopia where most people are forced to work 18 hour shifts just to make ends meet. In that context, being a shadowrunner is enticing as hell since it's dangerous work for a quick buck.

If you don't give the players information on the setting, they just end up building generic peons who are bland enough to fit into any setting, which is why most people don't bother thinking up more detail beyond their character's race, class, and alignment.

>>50013653
Having a rulebook that is applied to such a massive and diverse group of settings is going to have that issue. Maybe regular comments about asking your DM about the world and how certain things are would help? The Monster Manual has a section of "X in Eberon" or "X in Faerun", maybe one of those in the class section? That might just be confusing for players though. I think I'm starting to realize just how terrible the PHB is, and I never noticed it since it was my first book and I'm just so used to it - regardless of edition, it follows the same patterns.

>>49994572
>I think the wyvern poison would be better served on my arrows. With two vials I can dose up to six arrows with poison. While the arrows aren't magical, and the dragon can auto-save against the poison, if I get off a ranged sneak attack that's still 1d6+5/ (bow) plus 6d6 (sneak attack) plus 7d6 (poison). Even halving all the damage with resistance and a successful save still gives an average of 27 damage/hit, and allows me to stay at range.
Removing his senses and crippling his ability to fly (assuming you have a GM who'll roll with that kind of idea) is going to be massively more effective than whittling down his meat points with damage dice.

>>50013702
>Having a rulebook that is applied to such a massive and diverse group of settings is going to have that issue.

It wouldn't if they chose a default setting and released information on subsequent settings within their own splats.

>Maybe regular comments about asking your DM about the world and how certain things are would help?

Not really, because each GM is going to have their own bias as to how certain conventions should work. Which makes issues because you literally have no idea how anything fucking works at their table until it's too late.

See: Any story involving THAT GM who introduces house rules at the last minute.

>>50014177
>See: Any story involving THAT GM who introduces house rules at the last minute.

I swear that this is only a tiny minority. I've been playing DnD since 2003, probably close to 30 sessions on average a year, usually in 2 or 3 campaigns at once. I have encountered one, just one DM who fit into this category, and only a few more that had traces of that. Most DMs were perfectly fine - if a bit bland and uninspired.

>>50014249
From personal experience, GM's who used homebrew settings tend to fall into one of three categories.

The world itself is stable yet bland with nothing to do outside of the railroad the GM set up.

The world itself is a hodgepodge of different bullshit from other settings with liberal subversions thrown in so that it's more "unique."

The world itself is actually fleshed out with tons of bullshit to come across as you explore, lending itself well towards sandbox play.

Unfortunately, the GM's who actually fit into the last category only make up like two people that I know and they both stopped playing deendee a long time ago.

>>50014415
I find that from my personal experience they were all a mix of two of the three. Usually 1 and 2 or 2 and 3.

>>50014415
>tfw you don't know whether or not you're closer to the second or third

>>50012212
Yun-yun

>>50014415
Which are you?

>>50014415
i tend to find the second is most common. Usually it's easy for the DM to make a grab bag of all the neat stuff they've seen and put a few twists on things just so stuff seems different.

The third one I rarely see due to how much effort it can take on multiple levels, and the GM will rarely go to the level of depth needed for a true sandbox.

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>>50007875
>skip the OVA

You sad, sad human being.

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>>49995578
>my Fighter is legitimately strong enough to carry all four of the spellcasters in the party at the same time

>>49998018

You didn't even quote it right.

>YOU ARE STYUUPID! STYUUPID! STYUUPID! STYUUPID! Oh and let's not forget YOU ARE STYUUPID!

Idiot.

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Quick! Choose your Crimson Demon before they are sold out!

>>50014854
Megumin
The one and only

>>50014854
I'm gonna get a Dodonko, she seems bullyable

>>50014842
YOU didn't quote it right!

>You are stupid! You are stupid! And don't forget... YOU ARE STUPID!

I should know because I marathoned Dexter's Lab first two seasons (The only season mmkay?) today!

>>49995120
Just so you can get a little more shit, a single dash like "-" is more properly called an "en dash"; it is not hyphenated. Relatedly, an en dash is actually supposed to be somewhat wider than a hyphen, but it's acceptable in digital typography to use a hyphen in place of an en dash. However, a single en dash isn't actually used to set off names when signing a message or attributing a quote--that actually uses the em dash, which is about twice the width of an en dash. You can replicate that, as I have done here, by simply using two hyphens.

Now, go back to /pol/.

>>50014854
I like Arue.

>>50013041
>deend-rone believes that skill checks constitute "interesting mechanics for things outside of combat"
>will defend the hundreds of pages of combat rules because "they add depth"

>>50014854
I'll go for Komekko.

>>50015354
Thats a boy.

>>50016074
Yes, and?

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Kill/Marry/Fuck

>>50017602
Kill right fuck middle marry left

>>49993829
Scrolls and shit are hard to come by in organized play

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>>50017602
Marry Paladin, she's the only one even remotely suited to married life

Priest is dumb as bricks, but she probably knows how to fuck better and has a much more lewd body than the wizard

Kill the wizard

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>>50017700
>Kill the wizard
YOU'RE A MONSTER

>>50017698
Do you not have a place where you can buy them?

>>50017700
Priest is a vanilla normie, fuck or marry the wizard.

>>50017725
Normies know how to fuck good. Children don't. I'd rather marry her than Aqua, but not for a quick shag.

>>50017748
Normie have shit tier normie fetishes

>>50017785
Bro, I'm marrying Darkness, I've got more than enough fetish material from her.

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>>50017793
>I've got more than enough fetish material from her
Every fetish except the thinking man's fetish.
By which I mean softcore femdom.

>>50017830
>By which I mean softcore femdom.
fucking garbage tier sorry man

>>50017830
How soft are we talking? Softer than the softest sofa at soft sofa store?

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>>50017876
Hey, we can't all have GOAT taste

>>50017889
If I had to assign a value to it, I'd say about ara/ara.

>>49994951
Pretty sure rabbits aren't monogamous

>>50017723
i can't seem to find any information on that for organized play

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>>49993829
More importantly, what spellcaster travels without the wonders of rest-in-a-can?

>>50017602
How about a foursome and polygamy?

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>>50018109
Don't be so lewd anon

>>50018120
I'm not lewd! It's all intercourse in various positions for the purpose of procreation with my three waifus!

>>49995608
4e apologist please go

>>50017993
What the fuck, Can I have context?

>>50018190
The military fucking loves its energy drinks.

>>50017602
>no best girl
It's shit, Anon

>>50018224
Really? You think something was so much gosh darn sugar would be frowned upon and that they'd use caffeine pills or coffee.

>>50018432
Not all flavors have sugar. Some are sugar-free. Rip-Its are also loaded with caffeine and other common energy drink ingredients that are allegedly meant to boost energy (taurine, guarana, etc.).

>>50018483
>Rip-Its
I didn't realize that that many Juggalos were in the military.

>>50017935
They mate for life. They're very social creatures amongst their own.

>>50017602

Mage girl is the only one whose of the same level and rough physical equivilence as the rogue - the other two risk breaking him by hugging too hard.

>>50018866
>risk breaking him by hugging too hard.
but Anon, that's the best part

>>50013423
Erm 3.X dnd has numerous splats about the fluff of settings, I mean I think the Forgotten Realms has 17 or so setting books focused on various regions, a book dedicated to the gods, ect.

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>>50017602
>You will never bully the ever-loving fuck out of them

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I like how this thread has at least four subthreads going in it:

>Konosuba /a/-lite
>Rabbits torture
>3.x setting and its splats
>How people are dumb for not taking healing items and thinking the cleric can heal everyone

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>>50016074
Not for long

>>50019135
The most interesting threads always have a few subreddits within them; everyone talking about the same thing usually turns into either a clusterfuck or a flamewar.

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>>50019401
>subreddits

>>50019401
>subreddits
ReeeeeEEEEE

>>49993668

I had some faggot in our 5E group roll a warlock then use ALL HIS SPELLS on EVERY ENCOUNTER then whine for a short rest. So we had to keep taking short rests because they absolutely had to grandstand by fireballing everything apart every battle.

What gets me the most is that the DM never adapted to this. Like who sees this mechanics abuse happening and doesn't take action to curb it?

But noooo we were always able to barricade ourselves in a room or use other tricks to get short rests off in the dumbest of locales.

>>50019135
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50019518
But warlocks are the caster class most designed for going a long time without resting. Should have told him to fuck off and just use his cantrips/invocations.

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>>50019401

>>50019571

Oh believe me I did, I even ranted about how eldritch blast is one of the best moves, but nope, every fight they'd burn all their spells then if we didn't rest they'd whine about not doing good damage with EB.

>>50019609
>pictureforants.jpg

>>50004465
I never tell anyone this, but I personally think there's something disgusting about a woman dating a man she is more massive than. I don't necessarily mean fat; I also know women take in more fat than man. I just think it looks ugly. The man should always be bigger.

I see a lot of scrawny teenagers holding hands with fat girls, basically, and I don't get it.

>>50019783
>blog updated

>>50017602
Kill Darkness, but slow and lewdly. She'll love it.
Fuck Aqua, she's too dumb to make a decent spouse but a little fun won't hurt.
Marry Megumin, she's the closest to sane/normal out of them and will be happy as long as she can blow something up once a day.

>>50002222
>>50002346
>>50002430

Aqua resembles no PC I'd ever see excepted into a game: she HAS to be a DMPC played by a particularly deranged DM. There's no way it would work otherwise.

>>50019851
It's the PC of the DM's little sister.

>>50019741
best i could find unfortunately.

>>50019868
>It's the PC of the DM's little sister.
I'm not sure where that make the rogue considering jacking to her hilarious or creepy but it sure makes it something.

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>>50019893
Rogue is best girl. I didn't know she jacked it to Aqua before but even so I can dig it.

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>>50019931
THAT ROGUE LOOKS FAMILIAR FOR SOME REASON...

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>>50020008
I haven't actually read the LN Konosuba was based on but I think I've seen people talking about that kind of thing before
if so I'm cool with that too, although desu I'd rather she ditch the pads because she's cuter as a rogue

>>50020324
>Fake clothed cat ears
>Fake tits
GODDESS OF LIEEEEEESSSSSSSSS

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>>50017830
>the thinking man's fetish.
Ummm...

>>50020324
Agreed. She's perfect as Chris.

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>>50020520
Oh my

>>50020827
Now that there is the only true solution to NTR, besides violence.

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>>50017602

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>>50022642
>Implying holy knights are any better

>>50020418
>the rogue is a liar
What tipped you off, anon?

>>50019783
Continue telling no one, including us that, you worthless faggot.

>>50023285
>High Charisma
>Always keep their promises
>Immune to disease

Paladins are the best romantic partners

>>49996766
More than all her mana. She collapses because it eats deep into her HP.

EVERY LAST ONE OF HER SKILL POINTS goes into "increase power and MP cost" skill specialization of it too.

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>>50002268
And that IQ is Capped, no less.

>>50020827
my favorite part about this has always been that the wife is totally into it

>>50025035
Women are giant perverts

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>>50019851
Just the opposite.
She's was massively optimized, but halfway through the player had a "brilliant" idea, and gave up all the "weak" (lower level, more efficient/utilitarian) spellcasting for party-tricks.

>Guys, we make money every day using these. I'll be able to afford us new magic items by the boatload
>*PROCEEDS TO SPEND IT ON BOOZE AND DUMBASS SCAMS AND TRINKETS EVERY TIME*

The player, of course, cannot approach the character's wisdom or charisma, leading to a dumbass bitch with massive stats whose grasp of tactics is on the retarded side of retarded.

But once in a while
>HEY, A CURSE! I KNOW HOW TO FIX THOSE! YEAAAAH!
>I PURIFY THE LICH, SEE I'M BEING IN CHARACTER I HATE LICHES

>>50017602
Marry Megumin, Fuck Darkness, Kill Aqua.

The first two because that would make both of them happier than the inverse; Megumin's a pretty sweet girl when she's not acting all chunni-clan, and Darkness, given her ... preferences, would feel much more degraded as a mere mistress despite her nobility.

>>50019518
Warlocks were unfortunately literally designed this way.

You blow one spell slot on hex, so you have one slot left basically for your encounter, then you have to rest. You have two for the next one maybe, but probably you'll have to refresh mage armor or something, or use a different concentration spell at some point, so chances are you actually only have one.

And warlocks are only on-par with wizards or sorcerers for spells per day if they rest at LEAST three shorts per long, and even then it'll fall apart at higher levels with the 6+s

>>50023676
She turns out to be rather sweet in the LN...

>>50025111
>Warlocks were unfortunately literally designed this way.
I'm at a loss. Warlocks have the best cantrips. My warlock player is of the disposition to bitch at everything, but even he knows better than to bitch once he's out of spells because his EB is good enough. In practice, Warlock as I've known it is a class with limited leveled spells but great cantrips so it doesn't have to rest as much.

>>50025144
They don't "have the best cantrips". They have A better cantrip, but only once you spend one or two of your invocations on it (otherwise while it's different rolls it's only actually equal to firebolt) to make it the best. A level 2-3 warlock can switch to sorcerer and be even better at it as soon as he gets spell points.

EB AND the agonizing blast invocation together let you do damage more in line with regular combatants, but other than your filler spell you're still less capable than full casters.

They don't have any other "better/great cantrips", and many invocations are traps that not only only "teach" you the spell, but are 1/day maximum and ALSO use up a spell slot to fire off.

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>>50018831
Fucking hell that is brutal

>>49998515
Don't think that happened, just read the part with the Dullahan just now. Course, it might have happened behind the scenes, but it wasn't mentioned outright.

>>50003135
Reading it now, this one's actually well-written. I was surprised. http://skythewoodtl. com/g11/

>>50019518
> 5 minute wonder
> Mechanics abuse
Honestly it's your own fault for playing such a poorly designed tabletop game.

>>50024994
And I love her for it.

>>50019518
I wish that it was a prerequisite to play a narrative RPG before a single session of DnD. People who focus entirely around playing to the mechanics are pure cancer.

>>49993668
[silence] - bunch of dead muscly brutes

>t. every party without a caster to carry them

>>50025077

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>>50005203
Bitch, it isn't even the funniest anime of this year.

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>>50017602
Marry Megumin, Fuck Aqua, Ignore Darkness.

>>50017602
Fuck Darkness since I literally can't kill her ogre health

Headpat Megumin, then quickly kill her

Marry Aqua. Then bully the everloving shit out of her till she spends less than ten seconds to resurrect Exploshion and marry her too. Marry Darkness eventually when I'm tired of bullying her about being an unmarried horsewoman no one except meee will ever love

~GOOD END~

Megumin is cute.

CUTE!

>>50028047
>Headpat Megumin, then quickly kill her
Of Chuunis and Men

>>50017602

Hard choice. I don't particularly want to kill any of them, or marry any of them either.

If I have to make a pick, it's kill the dumbshit goddess because she's arrogant, fuck the chuuni splosion because why the fuck not, and marry the living sex toy because she's the right race, really easy to control and will put out on demand like a dispenser.

>>49994951
jesus christ that pastebin

>not learning to convert your spirit/ki into mana
>not baking up some relatively harmless meth potions, then laughing it off when your party members find out about it, playing it as comedy
>not using HARD WORK & GUTS to manifest just one more spell

I mean, if you're going for an anime/manga inspired fantasy, why not?

>>50032835
Turning our magic users into Dragonball characters, are we?

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>>50020827
>>50017914
Sauce?

>>50014854
They all look the same.

>>50012669
>Vampires, even the militant clans, aren't warriors - those are the werewolves and hunters - they're manipulators and thieves.
I liked Dark Ages for the potential to be a more martial vampire, knightly Kindred always appealed to me.