Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>49989938
Background skills, Words of Power, and fighters getting free Combat Stamina. The last one hasn't seen very much use in-game, though.

>>49989972
>Combat Stamina
I often find that replacing Burn with Stamina is a solid houserule.

>>49989938
>What are some optional rules your party has used?

Elephant in the Room alternative feat tax. I liked it. It cleaned up a lot of the feat taxes and was nice.

Background skills or skill groups is always a must.

>What are some optional rules your party has used?
Background Skills are the major one.

Unchained Monks & Rogues as well.

I use Unchained Barbarian, but with Chained Barbarian Rage (the only thing I don't like about Unchained Barbarian is the different in rage).

I use parts of retraining and downtime (retraining takes longer, downtime has been changed because parts are retarded).

I use Kingdom Building but with Ultimate Rulership and Ultimate Conquering (3rd party rulesets by the guy who wrote Kingdom building that fixes a ton of the issues).
Also because I am a horrible person I do not use gp/sp/cp and instead each country has their own currency/exchange rates. In much of the world they will still accept your currency because it is good silver, but not every kind of currency is accepted everywhere.

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Pictures, path of war corrupting the children.

PoW classes are boring an unfun to me, but archetypes with partial initiating and characters with Martial Training feats are pretty great. Especially my nigga Aegis.

>>49990021
>Also because I am a horrible person I do not use gp/sp/cp and instead each country has their own currency/exchange rates. In much of the world they will still accept your currency because it is good silver, but not every kind of currency is accepted everywhere.

I like this one. Especially if one country uses a heavier weight for gold coins and everyone wants them over other countries coins so money changers have to be on the ball.

I could also give Appraise some love if you tie it to that skill.

>>49990054
Aegis with Initiator's Soul and Student of the Astral Suit
plus War Soul Gifted Blade Soulknife with Fighter's Blade
plus levels in Awakened Blade

be the Jedi Power Ranger

>>49990054
This, plus Stalker, desu.

>>49990127
Houserules are on there twice.

Replace one with "Someone is accused of being 'DSP without a trip'."

>>49990127

First for OverPoWered

>>49990164
Agreed. do this

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>>49990127
Fox posting is out of the way.

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>>49990164
>>49990178
Any other changes?

>>49990191
perfect

>>49990191
Yeah, change it to "DSP Shill accusations" instead. Much better wording.

>>49990115
Here is something I have done:
>Elves live in a large slaving empire, where in order to emulate their fey ancestor's "courts" they enslave lesser races as a reflection of the lesser fey who flock to the sides of the seelie and unseelie sidhe
>one such race are trolls
>Elves do not have formal currency, instead established prices for precious metals, a elf will carry around spools of wire of precious metal and snip off an amount
>the reason this works is because essentially all elves know mending, when receiving an amount they will use mending to attach the wire to their own spool (conserving the currency)
>it is considered rude to give multiple pieces and rude to give underweighted pieces
>this gives rise to "A Troll Finger", so as to not offend elven shop keepers a troll will almost always overpay (due to their oversized hands and not wanting to offend and snip off an extra bit). The extra metal is called a troll's finger. It is considered low brow to overpay as it is associated with lesser races.

I also have a bunch of systems for money lenders.

>>49990221
why tho?

>>49990201
Yeah I agree.

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>>49990201
>>49990244

>>49990221
>Mending
>Casting time: 10 minutes.

>>49990221

I like the wire and the mending route. Not sure about the trolls finger. That could just be my inner Jewbadar showing though.

>>49990227
What do you mean why though?

Elves try and emulate the fey because they were essentially cast off as afterthoughts by the sidhe. They are trying to be acknowledged as they own court like the Seelie, Unseelie, or one of the lesser courts (there are half a dozen, the elves aren't any).

Elves are actually the children of Humans and Sidhe, only a few elves know this and they fucking guard the secret as a great shame and believe this is why they were barred from their ancestor's ranks.

This is also why elves have a deep ingrained racial hatred of humans.

>>49990252
Cool. Is there a spheres version of this?

>>49990265
No, nobody cares that much.

>>49990265
nobody cares that much about spheres

>>49990260
I gave it to them as a standard action for very small objects.

>>49990261
I mean the trolls don't like that the Troll's Finger is a thing either.

>>49990265
when we have arguments over spheres that span LITERALLY A YEAR NOW. Then I will make one.

>>49990252
Is it really not okay to out-perform everyone else in combat?

I mean I'm a little familiar with Lo5R, and their martials are explicitly for different types of combat, while their sneaky characters are for sneaky shenanigans, their social characters are for blackmail and protecting the party from being ordered to kill themselves, and their magic-y types are for anti-demon anti-magicy shenanigans.

>>49990265
Actually better how about one for non-DSP tripfags.

Does anyone have a list of non-DSP tripfags?

N.Jolly, touhofag, and DepressedHomebrewer are the ones I know.

>>49990295
2hu doesn't use trips, or at least hasn't for quite awhile.

>>49990295
2hu's never had a trip.

QANON used to exist, but she's dead or something.

>>49990295
There's the cowboy setting guy but he barely posts stuff and is admittedly a slow worker

>>49990290
>Is it really not okay to out-perform everyone else in combat?
It's a matter of degrees, but generally no.

Pathfinder isn't like shadowrun where you have the "Face, hacker, gunbunny, etc".

Combat is most of the game and rules, so it's expected that everyone participates in a roughly equal manner.

>>49990290
L5R is a very different kind of game to pathfinder, and no character (even in L5R) should ONLY have combat skills.

If you do you are literally a bad samurai and your GM should punish you for it because you fuck up every time you are in a social situation and get docked honor. If you're a samurai and don't have an art & game you should be punished. No seriously that's how the system is supposed to work, it's part of bushido code.

>>49990295
Did we finally stop talking about BUILDPOSTER ?

>>49990314
>>49990310
I mean more recognizable people, not just trip fags.

>>49990344
He died or something

>>49990348
oh.

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>>49990344
You fool, you summoned them!

>>49990348
Oh, well then don't say trips next time.

>>49990344
Yeah mostly. I miss BUILDPOSTER. He was fun to be angry at.

>>49990278
>>49990264
>>49990221
notsureiffuckingdumb.jpeg

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I want to make the wildsoul archetype have a frog option so bad desu

>>49990328
>It's a matter of degrees, but generally no.

I still don't really see the issue though.

If you've got Greg the monster-entrail fucker over there doing his job fucking monsters entrails, and then you've got beth the social combat waifu beth probably isn't going to be nearly as optimized for rip and tear as greg is.

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>>49990380
I just want to have frog gloves / dinosaur hands.

Maybe play a soulbolt or something.

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>>49990397
fun things are fun

>>49990350
>He died or something
Still here.

>>49990363
Aww thanks.

>>49990388
Well the problem is that MOST characters are built around combat. It's not like when the street sam out-shines the face with a gun. It's entirely possible to make one character who is a combat monster AND just as good at diplomacy/whatever.

>>49990413
you should go die.

>>49990388
I'd have to agree with Buildposter on this, combat is a huge part of the game and PF classes are designed around the assumption every class can contribute to combat in a meaningful way.

Outshining a character in something they didn't invest or design for at all is one thing, but everyone builds to take part in combat.

>>49990333
A huge problem in L5R however is that NPCs and character creation are massively borked. The game basically assumes you're going to stay at home and keep getting trained until insight 3.

A starting courier might easily talk himself into getting executed because of slightly below average rolls if he gets into any kind of opposed intrigue whatsoever. Likewise, the starting combatants are utterly fucked against bandits, most especially the archer ones.

>>49990252
Original charter, I like the improvements.

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>>49990502
>PF classes are designed around the assumption every class can contribute to combat in a meaningful way.

>>49990525
Sweet.

Anything I should add?

>>49990545
Anime girls and fox posting is a bit redundant, topical subjects can probably be swapped out with one as they become relevant.

>>49990530
They might not have -succeeded- at it, but damn well that was the intent.

Every class has combat features.

>>49990502
Uh... Actually, Paladin was originally going to be as weak or weaker than its 3.5 counterpart, because it was the "superior roleplaying opportunity class"

Yes, really.

The fans in playtesting bitchslapped that idea, which is the only reason we got a balanced paladin.

Why are the psionics classes so much better designed than the PoW ones?

>>49990592

Roleplaying opportunity should not be seen as a resource some classes have more of than others, that's a toxic viewpoint for the hobby. If there's a problem with a class's ability to be a unique character or provide roleplay than mmaaaayyybbbeeee you should be fixing the class or folding it into an archetype or hell I dunno, work out a "How to" manual on roleplaying the class.

>>49990592
I can believe that, the excuse they made for vow of poverty was just heckin' shameful.

>>49990625
>Pre POW/Augmented Soulknives
>Marksman
>Tactician

I dunno, you tell me.

>>49990657
>aegis
>wilder
>ect

>>49990633

That's incredibly cute, anon. Sounds like you had fun with the character, and that's what matters! I know I'd want to play a couple like that - religiously motivated especially - so I might have to steal that if I ever find someone who'd want to play with pregnancy on the table.

>>49990684
Paladin and Cleric is our favorite duo app, we do it whenever possible. Knight in shining armor protecting his precious caster waifu? Mmf.

everyone should duo-app its just better

ITS JUST BEETTEEEERR

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>>49990722

>>49989938
Hero Points
Gestalt, when I had less than four players
Critical Hit and Critical Fumble decks

>>49990806
But don't duo apps mean you're kind of excluding the rest of the party from interacting you as much since most of your character's focus is on their app partner?

>>49990947
Only if you're a dickwolf.

Don't be a dickwolf.

>>49990722
Paladin mom and Aegis dad
Once the baby's born, passenger customizations make best carry.

How many other backpacks can claim to offer DR, energy resistances and underwater breathing?

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How JoJo have your games gotten?

>>49991025
Statted out DIO for a fight.

>>49991047
Mind if I get that statblock from ya?

>>49991047
>>49991060
Cha: ∞

>>49991025
Playing a goddamn Avant Guard.
>Name can almost be shortened to JoJo
>Called my stand Daft Punk
>Got a psicrystal and said it's part of the stand like Sheer Heart Attack, will call it Around the World
>Awakened to Stand Power from a traumatic incident
>Got to oraoraoraora a captured villain
>Max out intimidate to go full [Menacing]
>Focus on Telekinesis and say it's the stand invisibly lifting things

I am all the jojo.

>>49991089
Rainy is that you.

>>49991060
I don't know if I saved it, but he was just a Vampire (Human) Fractured Mind Spiritualist with the Pride phantom, VMC Divination (Foresight) Wizard.

Illusion of Perfection is the "gogogogo" that appears when he attacks.

>>49991152
If you can get that to me I would love it. I'm running a campaign and I have the perfect idea for it.

>>49991167
I'll see if I can scrounge it up, just keep in mind this was pretty high level.

>>49991180
Sounds perfect :D

>>49990947
No?

>>49991025
We have a Spiritualist (Fractured Mind - Jealousy) in the Party

>>49990947
I ended up starting a romance with another player but I still make sure to interact with each other party member in unique and meaningful ways. The druid is my adoptive aunt, the paladin is my confidante as the only other combat veteran.

>>49991108
I mean it was pretttyyyy telling. If someone else could claim to have done all that exactly I'd be surprised!

>tfw urge to homebrew non-vancian casters and PoW classes with some in-combat emphasis moved to out-of-combat because my homebrewed high fantasy wuxia system is going nowhere
I just want to play a youxia

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>>49990380
I made one, if you want!

http://pastebin.com/mAyLsjji

>>49991025
I'm playing a vampire Sanguinist Medic who drinks people with her hands.
We had a Fool's Errand focused Steelfist commando who was basically Joseph. Who I killed.
We have a ZweiSent who kept standing behind the steelfist and hitting people from over his shoulder and never speaking. Who we dubbed his stand.

Has anyone eradicated the orcs in their campaign?

>>49991195
Okay, I found parts of the notes for the character so I put it pretty much back together. I think some of the math is off though and there are numbers I can't remember the sources for, and it was never particularly well-optimized to begin with, so I'd use it as a base and fix it up for your own purposes.

http://pastebin.com/iQxkDA5P

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>>49991875
Why would you want to do that?

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/

Tell me about your original setting?

>>49991938
Flat world where life was created from a great silver sword, thrust down from the heavens from whence the major races sprang. And in the shadow of the sword came the lesser races and monsters that inhabit the world.
Silver sword was/is a spaceship and most of the monsters are radiated mutations. Then it goes into Spelljammer

>>49991938
Are you sure you want to know? Because that's a big can of worms and will take up a bunch of posts.

>>49991938
I am not a good enough worldbuilder to have one, nor has reading guides ever worked.

I'm just not creative enough.

>>49991938
Old-time Japan mixed with Venice. A huge city where everyone goes around wearing masks, but the power balance is split between a bunch of great factions with different goals and methods.

An extraplanar non-euclidean eldritch church spans through the underground 'below' the city.

The campaign is only set there so the rest of the world doesn't matter much.

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>>49991875
No.

My next place takes place in the Inner Sea of Faerun. The orcs there are trading with, and learning from, the Chessentans and Untherites (Greeks, Egyptians, and Babylonians) there.

Orc ferocity combined with Greek thinking and Babylonian aesthetics will be the greatest threat the Realms have ever known.

>>49991938

The area that comprised Hungary during the Middle Ages, with Slavic merchant dragons having good relationships with elves, humans, dwarves, and halflings. There are native american hobgoblin samurai, animal people and faefolk to the west, which is basically the American Wild Wild West. To the north are grumpy scandinavian colonist dragons, and to the south across a sea full of ravenous sea monsters is an empire that sends raiding parties north to fight against venetian merchants.

The main kingdom basically has the CIA. But instead of being badass super spies, they're badass super knights, and the players are trying to become some of those badass super knights.

>>49991938
So far its just the old west

ayy

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>>49991938
Picture this:

The world is a bunch of shattered floating continents on several levels, some closer to the outer rims, some closer to the core.

They orbit a gaseous core that is said to be the realms of the gods. The outer realms beyond the continents is the void, long believed to be harbor of dark and evil things.

Those continents closer to the core are the elites, those at the farthest are the deplorables, exiles, criminals and serves the first line tasked with defending rest of the world from the void.

>>49992220
so Septerra Core's layout but in reverse (since the rich people literally shit off their layer into the lower ones in that game)

>>49992234
>someone else knows about Septerra Core

muh nigga!

>>49992220
let me guess DM, we all start at the furthest continent, didn't we?

>>49992312
Steve, stop whining. There wouldn't BE an adventure if I dropped your asses anywhere else. And I will not fucking drop you close to the core - you get fucking bored when we run a political game and do random shit.

>>49992344
Steve is always such a fucking dickhead.

>>49992344
>you get fucking bored when we run a political game and do random shit

Fucking Steve

>>49990625
Because DSP has no talent outside of Forrest, and Psionics was pretty muched copy pasted from 3.5. The XPH was based as fuck for the most part.

>>49990625
They're... not?

The Cryptic is an utter clusterfuck.

>>49991938
The world is a cube instead of a sphere. So are the sun and the moon. Each of the six faces of the world has a drastically different mix of cultures.

Sort of like early D&D Hollow Earth gonzo stuff, but a little less absurd feeling.

>>49990722

And it's just such an easy thing to explain in the backstory! The lovely choir girl falling for the dashing acolyte? The freshly anointed knight tasked with escorting the virginal cleric across the lands? Too cute! Too cute!

>>49991938
I rejigged Golarion:

>Druuma, Worldwound, Andoran, Cheliax, Alkenstar, Ustalav are all close to each other
>Technology is now up to revolvers/shotguns/rifles etc.
>Cheliax is now more British colonialism and financially pressuring Andoran
>Andoran is civil war/1860s/Reconstruction era American history
>Alkenstar is now weird west/Judge Dredd and separates the Worldwound from the rest
>Worldwound is now S.T.A.L.K.E.R./Metro 2033 esque based on initial fluff
>Ustalav remains pretty much as is
>Druuma stayed pretty similar if not a bit more corrupt politically

>>49991938

Several hundred years after an occult fueled apocalypse North America has finally become livable once more. Settlers from mainland china live in city states along the west coast, now having declared independence from imperial rule, and struggle in constant conflict with the barbaric tribes to the south and their rattling smoke belching motored vehicles. Dotting the landscape is pieces more valuable than gold. Rubber, chemicals, perhaps even preserved documents on how to make them lie buried beneath the landscape. The California coast has become hostile, and in recent time the city states unstable after breaking away from control of the Imperial Dynasty. With beasts twisted by strange energies, black oil barbarians, and greedy abhumans abounding how can one make their fortune in this new land?

In summary, chinafornia.

http://pastebin.com/QTqWE9H8

pastebin contains a lot of setting info

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>>49992606

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>>49991875
But orcs are CUUUUUUUTE

>>49992633

They really aren't, the only attractive ones are halfsies.

>>49992633
John I'm tired of your weird orc fetish, god damn.

>>49992616

I don't know anon-kun, it sounds pretty fun to me!

>>49992661
Then you give some fucks, I don't even know what any of those are.

>>49992656

This opens up a question I'd like to present to the rest of this thread.

*Is* there a fetish you would consider totally okay in a campaign?

>>49992677
Hand-holding.

>>49991938
The world is flat.
Its also crumbling from the edges.
The reason is unknown, though attributed to the god designing a shitty unsustainable world
The only way to fix it from crumbling is by telling the god to make it into a sphere instead

My players has not played any of the golden sun games.

>>49992695
Oh, that's actually easy. Just get some (SU) create demiplanes and permanency them.

>>49992677
Righteous genocide is my fetish and luckily for me that's what half of fantasy writing is about.

>>49992649
>>49992656
I have more cute orcs, but they're not in sorted folders so I'd have to really look for them.

>>49992677
Rather, lemme suggest this method to you:

If it causes someone's hand to go do things under the table, it's not acceptable.

If it simply *happens* to be a thing and someone just *happens* to have a thing for that thing, there's no problem.

>>49992676

Cheliax is the Infernal Empire of Not!British and Not!Spanish during the Age of Sail.

Andoran is Colonial America with a dash of modern corporatism.

Alkenstar is Steampunk Land where 99% of the setting's weapons are produced.

The Worldwound is a rip in reality where you can form suspicious covenants so you can get all up in the Abyss's asshole.

Ustalav is Gothic Germany and Transylvania.

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>>49992719

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>>49992677
Human on Human relationships only.

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>>49992749

>>49992749
>Human on Human relationships only

>>>/d/

>>49992749
you sick fuck

>>49992766

>a broken heart will heal if but given time

Thanks for posting this again. I really needed reminded of that particular lie.

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>>49992695
Nova Chrysalia?

Alternatively, your players could kill god and rebuild the world themselves.

>>49992749
This is a blueboard, anon

>>49991938
>Don't hide it from me, /pfg/

I miss this forced meme

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>>49992855
It's true, though. And time is sped up through alcohol.

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>>49992914

There isnt enough peppermint schnapps and gin to get me through this life.

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>>49992946
I may not be schnapps but I'll help you through your life!

Your level 1 party has stumbled upon a small fortune prior to their first job.

What sort of nonsense would you pick up before you leave town if you had a) 200 gold b) 2,000 gold or c) 20,000 gold?

Core only, because supplements are broken and lame
unless you happen to have something really Cool and Fun.

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>>49992971
You're too stupid to help with anything that complicated.

>>49993000
>Core only, because supplements are broken and lame
Pathfinder lacks a lot of cool items, especially core only.

But a custom use item of prestidigitation. It's like 1,000 gold.

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>>49993022
Hey! I'll make you more chocolate then!

>>49993000
>Core only, because supplements are broken and lame
You sure you don't have that backwards?

>>49993000
I'd pick up supplements, because it's either that or a fuckton of scrolls to learn the spells off of and win. And I'd rather have an adventure than be forced to just waggle myfingers and end it all.

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>>49991938
>it's a kitchen sink smattering of unoriginal tripe and races that haven't been thoroughly fleshed out because I'm lazy
>the main town is a frontier town wedged between a haunted forest and a mountain with an abandoned castle, which is where the PCs would probably start and spend most of their time
>the kingdom that funded the frontier town is a melting pot focused on trade, whose capitol full of snobbish nobles and overworked guilds
>the pantheon of gods is (mostly) all the children of one higher god, who's left them to oversee things as he observes and rests from creating the world
>there are a few cases of minor deities ascending, but that's mostly assumed to be nothing but fables and myths of old heroes
>the haunted forest is a prison built around the temple of a minor deity, powered by binding him to the temple and siphoning both his divine and arcane power
>all this because the other gods got pissed that a mere fox had not only managed to ascend to godhood, SOMEHOW, but was managing to constantly prank them and their followers
>the castle is the old domain of a minor dragon lord, servant of one of the more important deities, who was tasked with with making sure he, or at least someone who could contact him, was keeping watch over the forest to make sure the fox STAYED locked up
>one of the pranks was tricking the dragon lord into hooking up with a mortal woman, causing the birth of a halfbreed, who was hidden away in the caverns beneath the castle

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>>49993033

>>49993033
I love the scene where her mother tries to marry her off to the guy and his response is

>I can't even appreciate the sentiment

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>>49993119

>>49993049
>not Oglaf Fox
Wasted potential

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>>49993119
This one?

fuck I'm loving this show.

I'm making a fairly large homebrew hybrid class between the Cleric and the Bard, and I'm kinda failing at describing one of the domains performances-

The performance (Should be roughly on par with Inspire Courage) makes it so that, if you miss an attack against an enemy, the area your enemy is standing in becomes difficult terrain.

Having difficulty balancing it, however.

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>>49993165
Had I that on hand, I would totally have used it, anon.
Hook a brother up?

>>49991938
The world is flat. In fact, the entire cosmology is flat. The world is perfect square, about ten million square kilometres. At each edge is a bottomless canyon, and across it, one of the elemental planes. There are ruined bridges here and there, from pre-history, when elementals mingled with the humans, before four thousand years of war broke out.

The four gods, living on not!Olympus, take a semi-active role, giving "psionic" power to the humans (in this case, psionics are a sort of limited divinity, safe for mortals to touch) and are the only reason humans aren't extinct. The gods grew along with the humans, starting as simple concepts like "nature" or "home", and slowly evolving to cover more and more related subjects as they came up (The Nature goddess, for example, covers civilization, because she became a Farming goddess when agriculture was discovered, and then a Brewing goddess when it turned out agriculture could be used to make beer, and then beer meant people lived closer together..)

There are geniekin, among the humans, and in most places they're viewed with the same sort of suspicion that tieflings are in base setting.

The elementals have been silent for a few hundred years now since a massive rout, and the humans have fallen to theological war amongst each other.

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>>49993207
Here, because I like you
Also, for future reference, you can always google. There's some interesting stuff on Oglaf Fox, or Oglaf in general on google

>>49993229
Well psionics and divinity have always been fairly related. the biggest difference is that a mortal has his own body's power backing his ability to impose his will to bend the universe, while a diety has the accumulated belief of hundreds of thousands of worshipers to really put the universe at an embarrassing angle.

In many ways though, you're learning to do things the same way gods do it.

>>49993182
. . . fuck
I gave up on a divine bard as well. One that trades performance for prayers.

Sanctum was granting protection from evil/law/good/chaos

Elegy & Dirge was rebuke or command undead

Requiem was Heroism

Lament was Cause Fear

Hymnal was Blessing of Fervor

Meditance was was DR + Energy Resistance

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>>49993282
Nice, anon. I realized it probably would have been way faster to just google it right after I posted, so now I feel very silly for not just doing that in the first place. In my defense, I'm not very well versed in Oglaf.

>>49990191
Why is foxposting/anime girls/lewd posting on here?

Isn't weebshit just normal for /pfg/, as evidence for the past dozen threads?

>>49993359
If anything, foxposting should be the central free space.

>>49993325
>>49993182
The reason why a divine-based bard fails is because an Oracle already works as a divine spontaneous charisma based support caster with a diverse set of options to build from that would fit a bard's niche already.

>>49993372
We need a /pfg/ bingo

Anybody know if any good PF related podcasts? I have a twelve hour shift today where I do basically nothing and I'm out of stuff to listen to.

>>49993457
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTD2zJ7Yi2ZSfnHQ-OaOxeWpoAZk3qoTM

>>49993457
I'd suggest an audiobook of 50 shades of grey read by gilbert gottfried, myself

>>49993534
Wrong link?

>>49993553
I wish that was real.

>>49993553
The shift already seems to last too long as is. No need to go full purgatory.

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>wotr guy still hasn't chosen players

Waiting is suffering.

>>49993587
how about by the warcraft 2 human briefings guy then?

actually I can pull that one off rather well - used to read bad "dear playboy" pron stories with that outloud fro friends.

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>>49991938
> Continent that is separated in half by impassible desert and a hostile sea
> Only point of travel across the landmass is a single small country
> Capital of country is built in an ancient ruin that houses a massive magical crystal that has become a cornerstone of civilization
> Entire norther half of the landmass has been conquered by a dragon and its army and is looking to take the middle country next
> Turns out the king of the middle country was an ancient lich that first built the ruins and made the crystal and has been manipulating the politics of the entire landmass from the shadows for all of recorded history
It's not original, but it's mine.

>>49993604
>how about by the warcraft 2 human briefings guy then?

No idea what that sounds like. That game came out a year before we got a PC.

>>49991938
Chief god is missing.
World is flat. World is also a place to make souls into something worthwhile for the gods.
We're on the second iteration though, due to 'technical difficulties.'
Elves split into two different factions, one which took after insects and became a hive mind, the other which valued individually and lost to the hivemind.
Dwarves are dwarves, but they're dwarf giants, not humans.
Beastfolk make up the token short race
Humans are the fading race here.
Dozens of misc. races brought in by troublesome world features.

>All these flat worlds

>ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT

>>49991938
Only begun working on it. Chief antagonists are the elves. They have an expansionist empire culturally similar to the Aztecs, plus some added canabalism for good measure. Debating on whether they should be limited to bronze by incorporating the aversion to iron/steel that occasionally shows up in myth or not. Allied with dwarves, who are very big on keeping their ancestors close to them. Like, heavy necromancy close. All other races are considered "lesser" and are only good for sacrifices and the cookpot, mostly controlled through fear. At the other end if the spectrum are a coalition of races who are largely content to remain on their continent. Still percolating on things, but I'm thinking humans, catfolk, lizardfolk, and maybe something else. There was a HFY copypasta I liked that mentioned other species joining humanity, so that's kinda what I'm going for there.

>>49991010
Hey guys, I'm making a witch and I have 10000 gold to spend, I'm looking for some flavourful stuff. LE, Nightmares patron, human. Going for witch of the wilds, swamp witch sort of feel. Got sny suggestions? No third party, but everything else goes. Got no responses in last thread, here's hoping

>>49993174
>>49993136

Wait, is this WORKING?

What happened to Poplar?

>>49993947
The new season is based on the webcomic side-story. It's a different location in the Wagnaria franchise.

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>>49993954
And they're themed! The Poplar branch is dog themed "Someone! Wan wan!" While this branch is cat themed!

>>49993457
What parts of PF do you like?

>>49993591

Which player are you?

>>49993972

Wouldn't a cat themed season be at a seafood place? This is chocolate, clearly for woofs!

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>>49994183
Change this to growling intensifies!

>>49994085
Wilder

>>49994195

If I wasn't phoneposting I'd give you some good Momiji gifs with intensified growling.

>>49994256

Good luck, she seems cute!

>>49994320
>momoji
>growling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCi7it5NKQ

>>49994370

Momiji is a proud wolf tengu, a heavenly dog! Of course she would growl to deter threats from wandering the mountain!

>>49993954
>>49993972
supplemental materials apparently hint also that Hime might be Souma's...

Although it would be a hell of a punchline to find out after all this time that when he gets home it's happy family life or something.

>>49994412
And at squirrels!

And ducks!

And frisbees!

>>49994518
Hime? Is that the baby?

does disorienting maneuver and canny tumble work together?

>>49994566
Yeah.

Given Kondou's lazy/delinquent attitude, it might make sense if she decided getting a hold of mr-autoblackmail souma would give her a comfy future...

>>49994675
I'm shipping her with Saiki. She needs a sub who can't say the safe word.

>>49994689
Except he can, they both speak english.

Plus isn't it more fun if the guy she bosses around is the sneaky bastard?

>>49994710
She can have both. Besides, she'd definitely make the safe word japanese.

>>49994726
more like she'd make it french.

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>>49993954
>>49993972
>crossover season never

>>49994675
With parents like that hime's rebellious phase will be as a hardworking genius.

>>49994518
>A sadistic girl with blonde hair, big breasts, a nice face and whose family name is not yamada

Souma describing what kind of girl he likes

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>>49991938
Once there was a great dragon empire, but now that's mostly just ruins and rumors. The setting is mostly generic fantasy stuff primarily set in what appears to be the Americas because I suck at geography. Elves live in forests and jungles, Dwarves like to live underground where they can mine and shit, Halflings either live in urban areas or a bunch of hills. Humans are as diverse as ever, but I'm trying to add some more diversity to the other races, even if they still gravitate to the old stereotypes. Drow were created by a green dragon that wanted to mine for precious jewels and metals but only had elf slaves so he experimented on them until he created dark elves. Then they worshiped spiders or something to help them kill their boss.

There's a mage-o-cratic Mage Republic, made up of city-states with a school/university set up. Lots of snoots, lots of magic nonsense. Serpentfolk, Naga, Medusae, etc. have an empire of scaly assholes in the jungle somewhere, even though jungle elves and various ape-people struggle against them.

>>49991875
We're sort of going the other way. In the country we've spent most of our time in, Orcs/greenskins range between second-class citizens to slaves, and since we have a Half-Orc party member, he wants very strongly to begin a slave revolt. Luckily for the status quo, he's an asshole and does not feel that a 50/50 split of the population in one city is good enough odds to begin, so it's sort of on the back burner until he grows some cajones or, like, invents the machine gun.

Help! My players just gave a 17th level wizard a week of prep time before they assault his mountain fortress, but I am not a clever man!

What sort of magic bullshittery would you come up with to kill some upstart adventurers who want to kill you?

>>49995381
Polymorph any object a minion to look like you, let them kill the minion and think they won. Problem solved.

>>49995381
Have the heroes invade only to be met with strangely reasnable and nice clones/images/whattheguyabovesaid and have him offer them jobs.

Or have like 20 planar-bound incubuses fuck them until they die. That works too.

>>49995414
Oh oh! Also make simulcrums of their family! Because why not!

>>49995381
A week of preptime with a valet familiar and a demiplane means you can craft Mimics.
Door Mimics that bite your hands off!
Rug Mimics that smother them to death!
Tile Mimics that reveal teeths of sharp pikes!
Stair Mimics that just keep going and going!
Lamp Mimics that launch fireballs at you!
Chandelier Mimics that crushes them down!

oh, the treasure chest is absolutely safe though, just to fuck their paranoia up.
Because WIZARD, BITCHES!

>>49995381
>>49995387
Fuck that polymorphing. Animate Object everything in the fortress, make them fight the castle from Beauty and the Beast.

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>>49995437
>>49995452
>yfw the adventurers spent the entire week lining up the dwarven mining tunnels running directly under the mountain fortress with several hundred of explosive runes for an easy win.

>>49995479
They actually spent it dealing with the logistics of running a crime syndicate they stole from said wizard.

>>49995381
Bound guardians at every door.

His waiting room is the Bastion of Broken Souls.

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How do I Junkrat, /pfg/? Just Grenadier Alchemist?

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>>49995592
You may also want to look at Alchemical Sapper
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/alchemist/archetypes/paizo---alchemist-archetypes/alchemical-sapper-alchemist-archetype

>>49995381
>over the lava pit, between the two portal traps, is an antimagic field. The pit's area is lined carefully with blightburn paste.

>Every day this week half of his spell slots were used to build up a veritable army of shitty undead. He's got no control over them, it's way past his HD limit, they're just there, being their usual hateful selves, in the big room near the entrance.

>Magic Mouth spells hidden away give the right answers to all the puzzles on the first floor
>The even better hidden ones on the second floor solve the first puzzle their code is used on... and set off the entire fortress to a silent red alert. Further uses of the magic-mouth codes automatically sets off attack runes from behind the trapped items they're used on, rather than ones mounted inside.

>There are large amounts of explosive runes in all sorts of stupid as fuck locations. Inside the top of chests, under a bed, inset backwards into thick glass plates designed to claymore the fuck out when you try to read what's in the glass....

>reverse gravity room has a magma ceiling. Held up by reverse gravity. Whatever they do, the results won't be pretty. Please do remember that even when liquid, ROCK IS FUCKING HEAVY TOO.

>a hundred skeletons with culverins. It doesn't matter that they only have one shot.

>there's at least four kidnapped maidens which will be as thankful as they are helpful in reaching the final abode...
>Yes, all four of them are under heavy duty fake auras
>To hide the fact that they're killer robots built by his friend and equipped with enchanted gear
>Using magically-boosted DISGUISE skill rather than an illusion, to help fool true seeing

>His daughter will help the heroes break into his inner sanctum
>well not his real one
>it's another killer robot
>but his daughter's doing the voice from their summer home across the continent
>you know
>where the wizard actually is
>the wife made some fresh bacon rolls

>>49995452
>>49995636
>>49995437

Wait wait.
Combine these three.

Killer Robot Mimics.

The teacups deploy into swarms of buzzsaw screamers

The clocks are Riven Hourglass laser wielders

The armoires and cupboards blast their panels open like the micromissile pods on Full-Armored Variable Fighters

The beds have chainguns

The chests have shotguns

The skeletons are secretly necrons

GIANT ENEMY CRABS

>>49991614
Boost the effective strength score of the tongue/tail to equal the vigilante's level instead of half and you've got yourself a pretty solid option. Good job!

>>49995693
If the party had a week to prepare for a wizard's shit, this is just the kind of stuff they'd prepare for isn't it?
What if the wizard just found the most powerful Barbarian he could, gave him a budget and access to his pad, and told him to go nuts?
I'm not entirely sure what he would do but I do know he would acquire many dinosaurs.

>>49995592
Look up "junkrat d'cannith" for the basics of a build. It relies on a 3.5 spell for its primary weapon, but surely you can find a Pathfinder alternative if it's off the table.

>>49992150
Do those badass super knights interrogate evil-doers and threaten to shoot them before throwing them out of a moving vessel?

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Hi there, /pfg/
Its me, the homebrewer for the Empyreus, the Mechanist, and the Sigilist.

I'm here to ask for some input and criticism for a new homebrew class I'm working on.

Its called the Avatar.

Its kinda like a druidic elemental barbarian. . .
anyways, tell me what you think!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10dEgLazR1i9O9Cs0z-6Znw96ocJPu3CVGuEOkCEfqLw/edit

>>49995810
Well, no one expects the wizard to go full alkenstar on the party instead of "we have a shield spell, we'll wade through thousands of his traps unharmed lol". They'll expect golems and summoned angels and devils, not beermug spider mines.

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>>49995810
Instead of the barbarian, have him call up his old adventuring buddies.

Were would you go to learn magic and be unmolested while you do that.

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>>49996210
Arcane, Divine, or Psionic?

>>49996210
the only place for that is learning by yourself because you can never trust a wizard

>>49996258
arcane, This is if you yourself got put into the setting

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>>49996305
Fell pact with eldritch being if it was Golarion.

The University at Cimbar if 3.0 Forgotten Realms.

>>49996327
>Fell pact with eldritch being

Are you sure that's anything remotely resembling safe?

>>49996362
"It is incapable of ever giving a fuck" is one of the better arcane teachers you can hope for.

There's a small handful of nurturing loving-third-parent type teachers out there, and you might be lucky enough to get one, but "it consumes stars and maybe thinks you're a small animal that's cutely trying to copy it" is actually a decent second or third place.

This is because a lot of the worse ones are a LOT more numerous AND FAR FAR WORSE.

All in all, "can I teach this human thing a trick" is one of the better ends for human.

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>>49996409
This might be the end goal of several Patrons.

My mortal pet is more powerful / is richer / has more influence / traveled farther / killed more dragons / seduced more bards than your mortal pet.

They're like deities, but with less sense of right and wrong.

So, I played a Synthesist Summoner for the first time in tonight. Decided I was going to be DoomGuy. I'm floored by how utterly ridiculous this class is.

After treating a LE Monk to 20dmg with a Heavy Mace and screaming "HUGE GUTS" at a high level succubus, I hit level 2. Has this class always been so utterly ridiculous?

>>49990295
Hey, I'm working for DSP on something now, so I'm not sure I qualify anymore.

>>49990295
>tfw nobody remembers you.
>tfw it's probably because you never really release much of worth.
>tfw playing Overwatch instead of brewing

>>49996633
If you think a class that can deal 20 damage at level 1 to a fucking monk is ridiculous than yeah, every fucking class in the game is ridiculous. Retard.

Sythesists are worse off than base summoners because you just shot your action economy in the foot, congrats.

>>49996258
Psionic.

>>49996769
>Not break action economy
>Shot in the foot.

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>>49996769
>being this mad over someone not realizing the class was so fun to play

>>49996633
Great sword, 18 strength with power attack. Congrats, you do 2d6+9 (6 from str, 3 from power attack) non crit without factoring in anything like rage, and you'll still easily hit the fucking monk because you have a +4 on your attack bonus.

SynthSum isn't anything special.

>>49996633
Synth is crazy fun, and serves the dual purpose of bringing the "pretty fucking broken" Summoner down to "actually this is fine yeah" levels.

Ironically, it's the one that gets banned, because the eidolon replacing your physical stats gives people 3.5 druid flashbacks.

(I played a Half-Elf Wild Caller Synth through to 12th once, I hope you have as good a time as I did playing Build-a-Beast Workshop. 25 evo points, yeesh.)

What language do people on golarions peak? would a earth person be able to understand?

>>49996832
The Common tongue is more properly known as Taldane, and it's not equivalent to any language of Earth.

>>49996858
Apparently, it's vaguely similar to Czech, according to Reign of Winter.

>>49996858
Don't forget Ching Chong Common, the Tien language.

>>49991928
No. DM'ing a campaign in which elves and fey creatures are eradicated though. Or at least considered things of legend. There are half elves, but it's been over a thousand years since the elves were last seen so these half elves are 90 percent human looking with just slightly pointy ears and thinner looking appearances (mechanically they are half elves though)

>>49996812
That sounds like the perfect way to build the Doomslayer in a fantasy setting. Assuming this game doesn't fall through, I'll probably buy up weapon proficiency feats. Say, if I evolve my Eidolon to have proficiency, do I benefit from that as a Synthesist? Or am I just better off putting feats into wielding the great sword and using evo for more arms to hold it with?

>>49996824
Yea, I like the way SynthSum rolls. Human Synth, playing it as a Bloodrager with better spell progression. I know it isn't the most efficient thing in the world, but it gets pretty close to the concept I had in mind. As someone who normally exclusively plays full-casters, this is so relaxing in comparison. Wake up, put on ass-kicking shoes, use natural attacks and swing with weapon ad infinitum.

>>49996885
You benefit from all its evolutions, yes. Including weapon proficiencies.

Why do you play such a seriously broken game system like 3.pf?? I don't get it. I mean there are OSR titles and 5E that play so much better and where classes work across the entire level range of the game. Please explain to me why you do this?

>>49994083
The fun, mostly.

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>>49997038
I dunno.

Why do you come and try to preach/bait in Pathfinder threads? That doesn't work either.

>>49997038
So go shitpost in those threads.

>>49997038
Because I enjoy systems like Spheres, Psionics, and Tome of Battle/Path of War way more fun than what OSR shit or god forbid 5e could provide.

>>49997038
Path of War, honestly. No other (sub)system comes close to giving me creative freedom with my martials.

>>49997223
>>49997038
Even without Third Party stuff,c 3.PF(especially 3.5) works just fucking fine if you BAN THE CORE CLASSES HOLY SHIT I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

Is it worth it to pick up a Psicrystal staff as a marksman?

I wanted to pick up a Psicrystal for better initiative, fortitude saves, and more places to keep Psionic Focus, but I realized I had to actually hold the staff for it to be useful. That would mean I'd be spending money on it just to double my Initiative bonus from the Psicrystal and nothing else.

>>49997258
Or just don't play with minmaxing asshole. Despite the horror stories that /tg/ tells, Schrodinger Wizards dont happen in real life. After playing thus game for fifteen years or so since 3.0, I've never had a party where the cleric/wizard/druid/whatever else overshadowed some or all of the party. As long as the players understand that the game is supposed to be fun for everyone, it should be fine.

>>49997335
Yeah but even when not playing with Min Maxy assholes banning the core classes is a good idea.

>>49997323
You can get a psicrystal setting weapon instead! Good luck, mate.

>>49997397
Do you have a link? The only thing I find is Psicrystal weapon, which is a feat to just grab a Psicrystal as a weapon, with no possibility to upgrade it.

http://dsp-d20-srd.wikidot.com/alternate-psicrystal:psicrystal-weapon

>>49995619

>Busty girl with straps hiding the nips

NO STOP

>>49997258
>Ban core classes
>Still have Arcanist, Psychic, Oracle, etc

Sure

>>49997038
>I mean there are OSR titles and 5E that play so much better
Really? Because my whole experience with 5E was pretty much nothing but being pissed off at how shit the BM was compared to the most generic, garden variety Warblade possible and at having horrible luck and ending up failing physical skill checks over and over while the Wizard managed to succeed at them on pure luck. Fuck 5E.

>>49996832

Time to rev up my autism;

Jadwigan is Russian and spoken by the Irriseni nobility

Skaldic is spoken by the Ulfen, it's quite literally Old Norse with a runic language inspired by Dwarves

Varisian is Gypsy-talk spoken by those freaks in Varisia.

Taldane is Common is Taldane.

Polyglot is a "Trade language" which is a fancy way of saying "filthy sailor speak aka British."

>>49997323

Dude dude dude.

Put the psicrystal in your GUN, and say that's how the shootbangs happen.

It's like a piezoelectric crystal, only instead of energy the application of pressure releases bolts of destructive power.

>>49991938
My original setting was a plain-and-simple riotfest of a town besieged by waves of violent citizens, infected with a plague that ultimately turned them into Zombies.
This was pre Walking Dead, so zombies were still cool back then and not a tired meme yet.

>>49997905
Would a paizoelectric crystal shoot out nerfs for martials and broken spells?

>>49995592
>grenadier
Why grenadier? It's more of a martial than a bomb-user.

>>49996773
>>49996305
>>49996258

Being loki, a demi-god, is it not be default Divine? Even if he's just talking about the boots being magic, are they not also divine having been made in Alfheim, by Norse-Elfs.

>Ofcourse, this IS marvel. more than 90% of the demi-gods or even full gods are laughably underpowered, and there are too many mortals that can reshape reality.

>>49998002

Loki and Thor and everyone else are just sufficiently advanced aliens, they aren't actually divine.

>>49997905
I just want double the bonuses from my Psicrystal like a greater Psicrystal Staff. Is that too much to ask for?

>>49998038
Yeah depending on writers of the time. I mean the Tech-and"totally-never-even-half-magic" is due to the movies being popular.
We'll see if Dr Strange changes anything.

BUT if we're going for sure the Alien-Tech route then I vote- well I vote tech, but If I had to choose a magic type: Psionic and Psi-tech.

Post music you've used while GMing. I used this as the background music when the party was going through a magically darkened cave filled with Jorogumo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrFRe2ISrLA

>>49998038

>Hyper-advanced alien civilization just so happens to look like Scandinavians.

>>49997885
>Polyglot is a "Trade language" which is a fancy way of saying "filthy sailor speak aka British."
Polyglot is an umbrella term for a large number of mutually intelligible Mwangi languages.

>>49991938
My not so original setting is on an earth map and works around WW1-era tech and intrigue wise (we use a combination of modern firearms, and some technological gear for things like radio, etc) Magic is kept primarily to the other planes, though mortals at large are aware of its existance its incredibly rare. Many countries are devoted to particular gods to some degree, and warrior-priests are pretty commonplace in the trenches and on the battlefields.

The two campaigns I've dm'd on the setting went pretty well. First campaign was hunting down an artifact with magical abilities in the sahara, involved an awesome getaway on horse and a secret society of wizards plotting in the background. The second was in the trenches in a war set in the amazonian rainforest between demonically empowered tribals. Very zulu to an extent, surprisingly the party was able to talk the chieftens into turning against their demonic masters.

>>49998093

Dr Strange very heavily changed it. Though they do frame magic initially in the context of science to help get the basic concept of 'What a spell is' across.

>>49998158
I ran a horror game in 3.5 years ago and played Midnight Syndicate in the background.

>>49998199

I personally quite like the idea that spells are really just someone knowing how to input the proper cosmic command to produce a fantastical result.

It's like math.

>>49996832
>MFW my GM removed common from the game, but it's otherwise Golarion.
I fucking hate this

I've been away from the game for quite awhile. Did they ever clear up the ninja/unchained rogue rules kerfluffle?

Which spells should I pick with Enlightened Paladin? the good paladin spells depend on me having Aura of Good (which I don't have) or Smite Evil (wich also I don't have), I think this archetype was a mistake.

>>49998676

What's wrong with that? It makes languages more important and emphasizes people from the same region working together.

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I need to add MOAR DICE to my monks damage.I'm a MoMS/2, with Jabbing Style, Jabbing Master, Dragon Style, Dragon Ferocity and TWF.Is there anything better than Jabbing Master?
What should I go for next level?

>>49998691
What kerfuffle?
>>49998823
Angelic aspect? What level are you?
>>49998976
Bleeding attack? Rogue sneak attack?

>>49999023
Bleeding Attack sounds good, but I'd need to multi class to get it and I don't want to be reliant on Sneak Attack

>>49999023
8th level

Oh my god why are there so many advertisements on my phone now, the REMOVE BELLY FAT TODAY takes up the entire screen and I'm getting POP UPS.

>>49999120
Its killing me inside, especially since my PC died and I won't be getting a new one for a while
I'm kinda starting to believe Mootwo is the super scammer that ruins shit that people said he was when he bought the site. I'm also wising that Notch had bought the site, he could afford to support it without this level of ads.

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>>49999059
Bleeding attack is just IUS as a prereq, no?
>>49999098
1st Divine favor, protection from evil.
2nd Angelic aspect, replacing PoE. Iron skin.

Honestly the paladin spell list in pathfinder sucks. My suggestion is to ask your GM if you can pull some 3.5 spells instead.

>>49999257
Bleeding Attack adds bleed damage to Sneak Attack (1d6 SA=1 bleed damage, 2d6 SA=2 bleed damage, etc) and as such, requires Sneak Attack.

>>49999333
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/belier-s-bite-combat

>>49999257

What 3.5 paladin spells were there of note?

>>49999407
>2 Bleeding Attacks
God damn it Pathfinder. I'm not sure if 1d4 damage a round is really worth a feat though.

>>49999480
Bleeding damage is SHIT, don't take the feat, don't pick the rogue's talent, avoid bleeding damage. It doesn't stack, it doesn't affect half the creatures out there, srly, avoid that shit

Though now that I'm thinking about it...you're a rogue, you're already shit

>>49999497
>Reading comprehension
I'm a monk.Which may not be much better, and I did say I didn't want the feat.

>>49999532
>I'm monk
Even worse, the more attacks you get the worse bleeding strike is. Hammer the gap, another shit feat, is better.

Srly, pick Jabbing style or better Dragon Style.

>>50000000

>>49999556
Holy shit can you not read?

>>49998976
Boar Style? you went the wrong direction though.

Dragon/Panther/Snake gives you TONS of attacks and therefore more damage.

>>49999240
>>49999120

>Legal steroid turning men into beasts

Why is the Healing Church advertising here?

Oh my GOD IF I WAS AT MY COMPUTER I COULD MAKE THIS DANK MEME.

>>49999638
Totally forgot about Boar Style, definitely taking that.
I did consider that combo, but I decided it fit the character more to just hit something really hard rather than hit it a whole lot.

>>49999638
Panther is pretty baller, although it has the problem of requiring enemies to attack you first, which they're probably not going to do after the first few times.

>>49999674
You might also consider something kind of fun that Horror Adventures made way better. If you grab Scorpion Style (which isn't actually a style feat) and Wolf Style/Trip/Savage, you could do something like apply a templated curse to your target.

>>49999874
I've only got 23 HP, so taking hits wouldn't be too good for me, especially since I only have +3 to hit.
>>49999937
I'd rather just punch them really hard desu, once I get a decent bonus to hit I'll pick up Power Attack (hopefully soon, I'd love to have it with Dragon Style for that beautiful two handed damage)

>>50000022
>4 style feats
>Only 23 HPs
How?

Someone remind me, in pathfinder I remember that using a weapon sized for a creature larger (or small) imparts a penalty no matter what, even if you're proficient in the weapon. Was it 3.5 that ruled that changing the size would increase/decrease the "weapon type" instead of just always giving a penalty? IE: A medium creature could use a large sized longsword as though it were a two-handed weapon, a large creature could use a medium-sized glaive as though it were a one-handed weapon? Is it actually just a houserule?

am I faggot for wanting to use that ruling to have an Oracle who is only proficient with longswords and simple weapons get a large-sized longsword made?

>>50000022
That's because you picked TWF, Snake/Panther/Dragon only needs to attack once with his standard action, rest are AoO either for enemies missing or for enemies trying to AoO on him.

I played a Mythic Master of many styles/hungry ghost/qiggong with mythic combat reflexes, I spent 1 ki to get +4 to AC, and with mobility, I was moving around the battlefield kicking everybody. That was the closest I could get to my old Monk/Psywar with tashalatorra, karmic strike and double hit.

>>50000114
In 3.5 there was powerful build a feature that allowed you to use weapons one category size bigger without penalties, normally is -4, with monkey grasp is -2. In PF is -4, not sure if there's a feat, if you're certain barbarian archetype which name I don't remember you can reduce the penalty up to 0

>>50000062
Human Monk with,traded my traits for a feat and got my bonus style feat from MoMS
>>50000116
Without TWF I can't use Jabbing Style (and by extension, Jabbing Master)

>>50000165
If 3pp are allowed, you can just pick a race with Powerful Build or get it from Bloodforge (Mighty Frame).

>>50000276
Is your GM homeruling MoMS? because you can't have that low level with those 4 feats

Why Bodhizen's guide to paladins doesn't work?

>>49999023
>What kerfuffle

The whole "it turns out ninja isn't actually an alternate rogue so you can't take rogue archetypes but the ninja still can multiclass with rogue or unclaimed rogue" thing.

>>49998976
My sap master MoMS/Ninja probably deals way more unarmed damage than your monk

>>49997361
"no"

>>49997335
>Schrodinger Wizards dont happen in real life
Sure, a Wizard with the best spell for every situation doesn't exist, but see, there's always a 2nd best and 3rd best spell that get the job done, and, for some reasons those spells are broad as fuck and deal with many situatiations, and THOSE are the spells you see in every fucking "must pick" list, and they work. Only when the GM scratches their head to come up with complex as fuck encounters to deal exclusively against the wizard those spells fail, but in those encounters the martials are already dead before rolling Ini.

>>50000573
>Be a specialized focused conjurer with jaunt and other shit in 3.5
>Literally a cake walk
>Absent one day (rule that the character is resting if the player isn't playing) so the party has an average as fuck cleric instead
>TPK in like the 2nd turn
>Nobody knows what happened
>Retcon encounter with me on it
>We win in the 1st turn easily
>Players "I don't get it, we rolled meh this time, something's not right, what happened?"
Yeah, I don't know either jejejeje

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>>50000333
His interpretation of MoMS is that I can take style feats without prerequisites and can skip the second feat if I have the first, I'm not arguing.
>>50000485
>Internet dick waving over your Pathfinder character
>
Fucking kek

>>49993182
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>>49993417
I mean, to be honest, I feel like the Oracle, Cleric, and Bard both have a bit too much Martial in them.

While designing the class, I'm not thinking badass cleric clawing into battle. I'm thinking more along the lines of british commanders standing upright in a fight. Or guys from the Red Cross.

TL;DR-
It's d6 hit die, with arcanist style casting split between Wisdom (For DCs) and Cha (For spells per day).

Has a core tenet (It's Inspire Courage equivalent), and Sermons. The sermons are basically bardic performances, gained at level 1, 5, and every four levels after.

Pastor's Lessons are basically Arcanist Talents, and either alter bardic performances, alter your spells, or grant new abilities.

Currently I'm working on class features level 1-6, AKA a sermon, two bardic performances and three lessons per domain.
To be honest, most of them will almost certainly be stolen from Bard archetypes or other materials. Because there are a lot of domains, and thrice as many subdomains, so it'll take a long while.

>>50000887
Ah, so the unnerfed version of the archetype.

>>50000573
What I normally find is most people can't play a wizard to more than 2/3 of the actual ability of the class. However they still will have much more utility.

The vast majority of players can't handle playing prepared casters.

>>50001406
I sure as heck can't!

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