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Can trolls be pretty?

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>>49938231
sure

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>>49938231
Yes. Formori, Metatype Reduction, and people who think big tusky monsters are hot.

>>49938134
>Have you dealt with [dragons]?
Ran against a feathered serpent in the PCC for either the Yakuza or a dragon with a gang of Yaks. Intercepted several crates of magical tomes, put a virus into the host the feathered serpent's shell company used, then blew up his house.

Campaign ended around then, before we could get what was coming to us.

I'm sad, /tg/. Sad about my group's characters' fates.

>>49938231
meh
where is the thick green cutie at

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>>49938134
Anyone have some good stories or reference material for running a game set in a feral sprawl in Africa?

I've got some newbies who want to give Anarchy a try and I figure doing some land war in Africa bullshit might be a lot of fun. Blood diamonds, skin trade, child soldiers, bribery getting you everywhere and hostile wild-life. Ghouls and such having a nation nearby.

Thinking of setting it in where Botswana would be, because I'm familiar with the history of the region.

>>49938353
What happened to them?

>>49938353
Ì'm not. THey deserved it DESU.

Is a doomsday cultist something i could do as a pc? Actual magical powers optional, chanting and ritual sacrifice non negotiable.

>>49938530
Ehhhh
It'll come close to being a toxic
and if you behave like a toxic then people will most likely not take chances with it

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>>49938530
Depends on the game. If your sacrificing people, you're probably going to get hunted down by people looking to collect a bounty on blood mages or shadow spirits (whether or not you actually have magic powers).

Just join the Cult of the Dragon, go around telling people Dunky's coming back to judge our sins.

>>49938593
>>49938571
Yeah, honestly it is mostly a throw away idea i kind of want to play after seeing some occult stuff.

A much more viable but similar character i also want to play is a gun cultist. Just as much chanting and ritual sacrifice, but with much less being hunted down because there isnt a million nuyen boubnty on people who destroy inferior weapons.

>>49938307
i want to get drunk and kiss her tummy

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>>49938499

Our group started pretty pink mohawk, but as the campaign went on and more chars bitten the dust/ decided to retire it got slightly darker.

Two of the eldest characters were paranoid former corpsec rigger, and something that started off as Gloria expy (although with less satanism) and grew into something more.

They both were kind of broken; he still carrying a heuristic avatar of his dead wife running on simsense and occasionally having strokes of workaholism, she being a more 'ware-than-flesh killing machine with a past that occassionaly visited us under a guise of creepy, unnerving 'runs.

And they kinda grew on each other. IC nobody in the group knew anything about their relationship, due to them both being rather non-social folks, and only recently have they started to get to meeting sites together.

They agreed that this job will be their last one, a milk run that would leave them with enough money to cobble together a new life. But then suddenly gunship (seriously, fuck our decker and our fixer) and before we realized what's going on, the rigger was lying on the ground in a pool of blood.

Razorgirl goes completely apeshit, and rather than run to turrets that rigger set up earlier, which could hope to damage the thing, goes full on RULES OF NATURE on the gunship. Burns all the edge, and with a bit of a DM fiat manages to break into the cockpit and kill the pilot.

The entire group was wondering whether she had any plans about what to do next, but it proved to be a moot point as the rigger's top-secret, backup, mum's the word drone placed a well-aimed rocket into fuel tanks of the 'ship ending the all-out-of-edge razorgirl in a huge fireball.

There is no place for love in the Sixth World, /tg/.

Strangely enough, due to an incredibly lucky roll from our IRL edgemaster, the rigger will survive.

>>49938519
:(

How would you make a contact that has a love/hate relationahip with the pc?
Likw, they will help the character when asked, but will also do things just to drive the character crazy, like calling during sleeping hours or pre-vandalizing goods bought through them?

>>49939124

If they don't actually cause the character harm/ put them in danger? Contact with high Loyalty and RP.

>>49939124
You mean mechanically? Make the contact have low loyalty (1-3), but treat the contact as if it had high loyalty for favour purposes. Occasionally however, have the contact act against the PC, give slightly off information, hire some low level goons to mess with them. not enough to make them an Enemy, but enough to be an annoyance.

Or alternatively do >>49939184

>>49939184
They may occasionally put the character in harms way.

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>>49939124
I did that. One of my contacts was a streetdoc with a lot of loyalty. He was also a Dependent 1, because Cousin Larry is kinda hapless and thinks that I should work for him in exchange for getting me into Seattle.

His crowning moment was when we came back from a run, shot to shit, and I went for the medical supplies I keep at home only to find the cabinet empty and a note from Larry saying he'd get the stuff back next week, dated two months ago.

>>49939267

I love this picture.

>>49938329
We said TROLLS if your solution is
First make sure the troll looks nothing like a troll, and more like a human and even then has to be a fetishist then you aren't a true believer in troll.

You don't deserve your tuskntiddies.btl

>>49938530
Most insect shamans count under that.

Doom is also a legitimate toxic mentor spirit, beconing the end times by having you personally kill all you can.

>>49938861
Never take a milk run, they are always trapped.

>>49938231
Troll Handsomelord (´･ω･`)

Anyway guys, I've been of the grid for a few weeks. Last major release I actively noticed was Howling Shadows. How's /srg/'s opinion on that right now?

Also, has anything else been released? If so, was it interesting? I'll probably be helping a new player build a character tomorrow evening (maybe an adept or something), any cool new gimmicks I should consider getting?

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>>49938231
pic related is sitting in the Shadowrun entry on 1d4chan

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>>49939598
A shopped picture of a thick woman =/= troll

They used to be really ugly in previous editions, and even now they're ugly more often than not

>>49939489
>Howling Shadows
ABSOLUTE DOGSHITE
no stats at all, IIRC some guys on reddit made a homebrew list of costs and availabilities

>Market Panic
Sourcebook on the status of the megas

>Anarchy
Rules-LightER system for SR. Still lacks some stats but apparently is playable. srg's opinion is divided, most people who praise it are called shills, MAJOR influx of newfags asking if it's already released and where to get it

What would you roll if you wanted to know what kind of accent a NPC has?

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>>49939661
>no stats at all

Not true. There are stats for all the critters, they just left out costs so you can't buy anything, and also accidentally so you can't use the critterware and genemodding sub-systems.

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>>49939728
You don't. That's the kind of thing that requires no roll, you just know it if you've heard it before, unless they're trying to Con you by hiding it, in which case it's contested Con.

>>49939801
I don't mean in a "have I heard this guy before" sense
more like "is this accent more Irish, Scottish or Welsh"
Think first meeting and you want to find out through the accent where he comes from

I ask this as a GM cause I can't imagine what you would roll for that

>>49939964
Then as the GM you do an accent. If you're bad at accents, you say, "This guy has a Scottish accent."

There's no roll for that, because there's no point in rolling for that.

>>49939964

Prolly Knowledge (Language). Or appropriate Language skill with -2 modifier or something.

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>>49939652
The dark ages are over, old man.

>>49940020
yeah but imagine I am talking with an accent and THE PLAYERS want to know if they know what kind of accent that is.
They will most likely have to make a test to see if their characters know what kind of accent that is. Just because the players can recognize the accent does not mean that their characters can, and vice versa.

>>49940061
>Knowledge (Language)
may work.
But what if the accent is a mix of different languages? e.g. someone with both an Aztlaner Spanish and south CAS accent.
Would both English and Spanish work?
What if they know neither language (e.g. their only languages are German and Mandarin)?


Because I can imagine that in some situation it may be nice to know where exactly the accent is from

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>>49940180
Trolls with faces that are hideously misshapen by human standards are still all over 5e. It's only lazy or bad artists who do "fat human+horns+tusks just sticking out from a regular jawline.

>>49940224
Did... Did you mean to post that with a picture of fabiotroll?

>>49940180
I want her to hold me down and fuck me. Is that weird?

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>>49940211
You're throwing yourself down a rabbit hole, anon. A deep, stupid rabbit hole.

If it's absolutely fucking critical that the PCs know exactly what neighbourhood of Santa Monica Mr. Johnson comes from, then use a Language skill.

>>49940286
definitely not weird, because I want that to happen as well
i want her to sit on my face

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>>49940224
It's [future year], troll women are hot now.

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>>49940276
He has no dermal deposits for some reason (very few trolls in SR5 do) but that face is fuckugly.

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>>49940224
It's not just the trolls, omae.

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>>49939964
LOG+[Language Skill] threshold 1, defaulting if you don't have the relevant skill, + situational modifiers depending on how common/strong the accent is. High degrees of success allow narrowing down specifics about where the guy is likely from originally.

Honestly you're going full sperg here, unless your players are really into this sort of thing nobody's going to care that your Fomorian troll is from Upper Eastwick instead of Lower Southwick.

>>49940292
So you are saying that the characters should instantly recognize the general area a NPC is from (CAS, Japan, Hong Kong, AGS, ...) Should only roll if they want to know the exact area and only be able to do that if they know the language?
In that case: What if the applicable language is your native language? Do you instantly know where they are from even if you had no contact with the area and it's people before? If not: What should the pool be?

I'm mostly asking out of curiosity

>>49940359
>fuckugly
nah, he's not the epitome of beauty, but calling that fuckugly is wrong too

>>49940436
>sperg
nah, just curious
mostly they are just told what kind of accent it is or they are able to guess it themselves
but it's nice to consider what rule there should be if there were to be one
also that rule seems good
thanks yekka

>>49940180
>Wanting shitty subhuman waifus
You're not making Shadowrun great again

>>49940436
addition to >>49940487:
it's more "This guy speaks Spanish. Is he from Spain, Aztlan, Argentina or some other Spanish speaking country?"

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>>49940527
>not conquering metahumanity through the power of hot dickings

Your colonial ancestors would be ashamed.

>>49940605
My colonial ancestors would have just used the more practical method of genocide.

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>>49938231
I think you'd have a similar distribution of pretty vs unattractive like with humans and other metatypes.
Thing is, people are bound to develop a fetish for big tusks and stuff the vanilla crowd is gonna consider unattractive.

>>49939598
Guess I'm e-famous now. Yay.
Made that thing if 5 minutes during a discussion about troll porn iirc...

>>49940672
>she only likes small dicks
guess what they say about elf men loving to get dominated by troll women is true

>>49940952
>she only likes small dicks
nah chummer
I think that's her Social Limit

>>49940180
Nah. They just have access to a lot more body sculpting now.

>>49940605
Humans are called breeders by trogs for a reason. It's not because fucking them makes more humans.

>>49938231
With enough work, they won't even produce troll stench.

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>>49941085
... No. The exact opposite, anon.

When humans have sex with metas, odds are good that the child will be a meta, not a human. Humans are breeders because orcs can use them to breed more orcs.

>>49940977
Anon, thats like when the porn star lays his dick on the girls pubis to show the camera how big it is. That tattoo is the limit on how much dick she'll take, which doesn't look like much.

>barely ever play
>want to play a pixie vehicle rigger with a tiny tank
>pixie rigger is apparently a minmaxer's broken haven and a major red flag for a bunch of GMs
>nobody allows it

>>49941390
Anything other than a metahuman is also hard special snowflake territory.

You should feel bad for liking shitty things.

>>49941434
>tfw I just want to make an oni street samurai who overplays all samurai movie shit
>tfw I would just get called out for making a lo wang knockoff

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>>49941390
Pixies aren't like... Tinkerbell or whatever, they're about 50cm tall.

>>49941485
under =/= about

>>49941485
>Pixies stand under a half-meter tall.
>under
>half-meter
50 cm is the tallest one could possibly get, senpai. And they'd probably be considered a freak.

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>>49941546
>Pixies are small humanoids that resemble miniature elves of various ethnicities, approximately 45 centimeters high on average and with large, iridescent dragonfly wings emerging from their backs (wingspans approx. 1 meter).
Granted if you didn't want to be a snowflake that'd be a proportionate difference of ~15-20cm in height, but what's a few centimetres between friends? It's not like we're rolling for anal circumferences or something.

>>49941181
>it's NOT because fucking them makes more humans.

Learn to read, you fucking retard.

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>>49941901

>>49941485

Speaking of metavariants, Yekka, Chummer isn't deducting the 12 karma for Formorian trolls in Priority gen.

>>49941115
Who says they smell? Sounds like Humanis propoganda.

>>49940292
Can someone explain the filename to me?

>>49943644
An Apocalypse World joke. 'Act Under Fire' is the move you use to react to dangerous situations. If a move is advanced, it means you are succeeding with style and grace.

The guy is driving down the road, sees an entire town being washed towards him, executes a textbook 3 point turn, and drives back literally meters ahead of the wave. Perfect poise in dealing with a deadly situation.

>>49942971
That'd be because it wasn't deducting the karma costs for any metavariant. Fixed in the next build as soon as I figure out a merge issue.

>>49943322
Despite the dubs, it's official.

>metatype reduction is generally aimed at goblinoids, a.k.a. “the ugly ones,” [...] even some delicate work with sweat glands and body oil production to reduce their output and make them more friendly to human noses.

Trolls and orks fucking stink.

I want to make a Giant character. How fucked am I?

>>49943852
Mechanically, you will most likely be better off with an ork or other metatype, but you can build a capable troll variant of any archetype - with some effort.

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I'm getting ready to GM this game for the first time either this weekend or the next one

>5e core
>run faster item packs
>~2055 setting with slight modifications to the rules checked with a more experienced friend
>somewhat decent hook
>a few run drafts to keep them entertained
>a group to share the books with my players
>an android shadowrun dice roller app because nobody playing has 3kg of d6

i think i'm mostly ready
any tips or things that i should take in account?

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>>49938231
>Can trolls be pretty?
Yes. Trolls don't even take a penalty to normal charisma - just to their maximum. Having a troll with 3 Charisma is no harder - nor easier - than having a human with 3 charisma.

Orks and trolls aren't, on average, any more or less Logical or Charismatic than members of other metatypes. They just have a lower maximum - where you won't find the absurdly-charming geniuses the way you might in other metatypes.

There are attractive orks and trolls - including in both canon fiction and official art. You're just far more likely to find a supermodel-tier elf than you are to find a particularly attractive troll, because elves have a higher baseline, and goblinoids have a lower maximum.

>but Charisma is strictly your personality, and has nothing to do with attractiveness
In D&D, maybe, but in Shadowrun, attractiveness is explicitly a component of Charisma, in the same way that buffness is a component of Strength. There are physical manifestations of many of your attributes, and being pretty is one part (of many) of being Charismatic.

>>49939124
Take the Prank War negative quality, and have it be tied to a high-Loyalty, useful Contact.

That's how you make a tsundere criminal.

>>49939964
>>49939728
You just roll a Memory Test to recognize an accent you're familiar with.

And if you're not familiar with it, you can't roll the Memory Test.

The more familiar you are with the accent, the lower the test threshold, meaning someone with only passing familiarity with the Welsh accent would have a hard time recognizing it from Irish, while someone from Gwyrwyrn-on-Sea would just need 1 hit to immediately recognize that someone's from Cardiff by their accent.

And that's seriously it.

>>49943948
>any tips or things that i should take in account?
Your players are not going to notice the things you think are obvious.

Your players are going to make things harder on themselves than they need to.

Your players are going to make mistakes.

Sometimes even easy rolls fail, because that's just how dice work.

You need to make sure they have a way to succeed even when two or more of those things happen at once.

>>49943881
No I mean literally the Giant Metavariant.

>>49944449
A fun thing thats mentioned in one of the books that i think CGL did right is mention that Shadowrunners don't often actually see jail time for very long if they get captured, since disposable assets are, above all assets.

So if they fuck up a run you can avoid a tpk by making them work a hard ass run for the corpsec who kicked their ass.

Unless of course they did something like go to a zero zone, in which case nice knowing them.

>>49944539
I left my questfag on excuse my cocksucking

>>49944552
I would be such a VR addict if shadowrun was real. Save up all my corp shekels for a sleep regulator and play pokemon VR all night long.

>>49944645
I'd end up a chip-head. I wouldn't be able to resist the allure of trying out hotsim, after which I'd never be able to go back to coldsim. And once I try BTLs? They'd just fuck my shit right up.

>>49944657
Yeah man. If my escapism is at the level just to be playing this RPG, hot sim would mean I'm a walking scorched quality waiting to happen.

>>49944645
>>49944657

Speaking of, I bet a pokemon knockoff ar game exists in the sixth world, not sure if nintendo does however.

Bear in mind AR has done what we always wanted, and let yugioh be real.

>>49944878
...Wow, I'm just... wow.

Mimikyus epic quest for friends is destroying what respectabillity I don't have.

>>49941181
The term 'breeder' came about because, originally, orks and trolls only became that way through goblinizing at puberty. They were made, not born. This isn't really the case anymore by the 2070s (even though it can still happen with a mixed pairing). Trolls and orks can be born to troll and ork parents, so they dont need humans to make more. The term 'breeder' stuck because sometimes slang sticks around even when its no longer really accurate.

>>49945078
Also because its insulting and orks have a long list of reasons to insult humans.

>>49945078
>(even though it can still happen with a mixed pairing)
It's pretty rare that a mixed pairing produces a human. Almost certain (not winning lottery chances) that they'll goblinise, though.

>>49945143
1. Devs wanted to push muh oppressed not-blacks
What else?

>>49945405
The whole "Dies earlier" thing.

That alone is enough to harbor some serious resentment, the simple fact that no matter what you do, your just a blip relatively in a world of bigger blips.

>>49945448
How's that different from anyone, and why resent humans for it and not elves?

>>49945472
They would resent elves as well but humans make up a much larger proportion of the world's population and thus are a more accesible target.

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So my players threw me a curveball. They had gotten themselves involved a run that involved a carjacking.

>Tracking down street racing ricefag
>Find out about a shortcut he takes on his rides.
>Is sketchy ass alleyway in Downtown
>Rigger and Sam prepare an ambush, readied with silenced high-powered rifle
>Target is riddled with bullets, ride jacked, and driven to lockup owned by Contact,

Now the Johnson who set them up just wanted the racer murked. He was paying peanuts so the players want to see what they can do with the car. What kind of challenges does the contact have to deal with a hot car in the 6th World, with things like ShadowLoJack, GridGuide, and Magic? I assumed he'd need a Decker to disable networked security, and maybe a Mage to eye it down.

My players are going to go camping in the Salish Sidhe territory soon, just outside Seattle. What parafauna do you recommend throwing at them for shits and giggles? What's weird and wonderful?

>>49945294
Orks also have a much higher ratio of same meta offspring when mating with elves and dwarves.

>>49945651
Bigfoot.

>>49945651
Miniature giant space devilhamsters

>>49944246
I really want to agree with you, but we can't say that if we're assuming that 3 is the average Attribute score (which we do). The most charismatic Troll will get to 4 (5 with a Quality). But Trolls' Charisma starts at 1, which means the average Troll is going to be at 2. Buuuuut, Charisma =/= prettiness.

>>49945782
>>49944246
Whoops, you're comment on prettiness: "It's not entirely about your appearance, but it's also not entirely not about your appearance."

>>49945472
They do, its just orks call them dandelion eaters not breeders.

Also allegedly elves have a natural charisma that makes them hard to hate, even when they act like complete douchebags, which btw is always.

Also in theory elves are usually still subjugated to racism, so solidarity against the normies. One of the reasons they are invited in Tir.

Granted Orks are in Tir mostly to be mexicans but the orks don't know that. Because Tir is a awful nation run by awful people.

>>49945592
Not as much as you'd think. Sure you have to watch for gridguide but you can probbably fake the owners SIN and make it look like it parked very innocently in a garage and then coinidantly completely vanished as the Mafia turns it into spare parts.

Crimes pretty easy in shadowrun because the sixth world has worked hard to make it so. It's kinda like prohibition except it was intentional.

>>49945824
>They do, its just orks call them dandelion eaters not breeders.
Or keebs.

>>49945984
Knife ear is my favorite. Sounds more derogatory

What's a good place to find art for insect spirit-possessed people?

>>49946545
For something that niche, you'll probably have to try fetish art. Good luck, buddy.

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>>49946545
> Most hosts are involuntary and there are horrific side effects that come with being invested with such a spirit.
> Most end up a half spirit half host hybrid known as a 'flesh form' >Physical traits of the Spirit are adopted: Mandibles, vestigial wings, extra limbs and insectoid eyes.

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>>49946545
>Spider is - at its best - a total control freak. Spider shamans are cold, manipulating and merciless,
>and dedicated bug hunters who go any length to track down and kill insect spirits.

Arguable that Spider spirit would count as an insect spirit, but icky nonetheless.

>>49946635

Spider a shit.

A SHIT.

She doesn't even have Mandibles and is nowhere near as beautiful as other better looking spirits that understand the Glory of the hive.

>>49946964
mandaboo

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SR5 still doesn't have the SR4 cyberadept echoes does it? No making an overclocked super ninja technomancer who grabs people and drags them into hotsim then black hammers their brain into slush yet?

>>49948152
One of the authors of the upcoming techno book said that 'technoadepts' were a concept that they were working towards facilitating.
And no, we don't know when it's coming out.

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>>49948171
That's all I needed to hear

How would you describe a group of non-hostile NPCs? The term NPC is too broad for my tastes.

The group would include: mission givers, random NPCs that you interact with, random bypassers on the street and so on
The group would exclude: criters, law enforcements, security, etc

>>49948276
"Civilian" means they aren't military or police, so just add security and HTR to that list and it works.

I use pubbies for obvious reasons

>>49941390
It's not actually that OP. You've got 1 extra log on a human, but otherwise you're just spending a lot of karma to get nothing good.

>>49949042
>1 extra log
Astral Perception without being Dual-Natured, Flight, Concealment, starting score of 3 in 4 of the most important attributes for everyone that's not a frontline tank, Small size bonus, no lifestyle penalties, no mechanical limitations on gear usage aside from dealing with Uneducated.

I'm gonna run a 2050s game on 5e, what should I erase from the rules? I'm completely ignoring AR matrix while keeping VR matrix rules and also wiping out Technomancers.

Anything about cyberware, bioware, magic, etc. that I should take in account?

>>49949562
arent technomancers just otaku?

>>49949295
>Dual-Natured
that's a bad thing
>concealment
Based on your magic score. Assuming you get some rigger ware, your magic score will not be good. Like, if you had 6 magic, this would be useful, but you shouldn't have 6 magic.
>flight
That's good, true.

>>49949562
You do know there is a 2050s supplement for 4e and 5e?

>>49949583
Nope. Maybe perhaps an evolution of otakus, but they're different. Technomancer powers manifest at puberty like magic and remain constant instead of fading with age.

>>49949606
Pixies AREN'T dual-natured, that's the whole point. (Except when busy astrally percieving like any other magic user, ofc.)

>>49949616
Not really. They don't need any cyberware, and their powers don't fade as they age.
>>49949295
Oh, remembered another thing
While there is no lifestyle cost, you have to get a modification on cars in order to use them, and since you're a rigger the ability to drive cars is kinda a big deal.
>>49949654
Oh, ok. yeah, that is somewhat good, although in my experience (currently playing one) pixie riggers require so many skills that you can't spare any for AP.

>>49949755
>Not really. They don't need any cyberware, and their powers don't fade as they age.
Sorry, meant to reply to >>49949583

>>49949583
Depending on when in the 2050s the game takes place, Otaku might not exist either. They weren't around until the later (2e and 3e) years.

To be honest, the differences between Technomancers and Otaku are mostly mechanical. Otaku need a bit of cyber (ASIST/datajack) to connect to the Matrix where a Technomancer's body interacts with radio waves. Once they're both in full VR, they're effectively the same thing: they do internet magic, hack things with their minds, and compile internet spirits to help them, all with Resonance abilities. Any differences in their capabilities are just differences in the crunch between editions and if you really wanted an Otaku in your 2050s game you could just throw some low-cost cyber on a Technomancer, remove AR entirely, and use the rest of the Technomancer rules without thinking too hard about it.

>>49949616
I knew it existed, but last time I checked it was in german, and I don't know any german.

Is the english version out yet?

Don't you die on me!

>>49945853
Going by DAS the only thing you actually have to do is reset ownership with an extended test, butswapping plates would also be a good idea.

>>49952342
Also, hope that the owner doesn't have the matrix skills to track the vehicle down or that you don't glitch or crit-glitch one of the rolls.

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What's a good spell to enchant projectiles with? Doesn't have to be mechanically good, it could just be interesting in some way

So I'm trying to stat up an Aspected Magician in Chummer, and none of the Magical skills are showing up in the skills tab. The only thing I'm seeing is Arcana.

I'm not sure if this is a bug, or I just missed something about how Aspected Magicians are supposed to be made, somewhere.

>>49952440
It's probably worth noting, though, that a box pops up for a fraction of a second after I click OK on the priority selection, presumably to ask which set of Magical skills I'm going with, but it closes itself before I can do anything.

>>49952433
You do know that you can't enchant bullets, right?
Just asking beforehand

>>49952492
yes

>>49952440
>>49952463
Works fine in Karmagen, but Sum-To-Ten(what I was using originally) and Priority both automatically close the category selector before you can choose one, and prevent you from taking any of them as a result.

This is in the newest Nightly, btw.

>>49952433
Punch/Clout?

>>49952433
Assuming that your teammates are strong enough to laugh off the arrow?

Powerblade. Manablade if you want to be nastily power-gamey. (Both are kinda really strong with Alchemy [irony], but it's Manablade that's the too strong of the two.

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>>49952709

>>49952433

Heal.

>>49952751
Don't Heal Spells need a verbal trigger?

>>49952795

"Ouch!"

>>49952738
Powerblade isn't that bad a spell, most people don't seem to recognize that the spellcasting hits for it only really matter for the purposes of dispelling.

Until you get into over 6 forces, or have somebody with hardened armor, it's not much better than having an actual katana, say. It's even less good if you had an actually decent Str rating.

Manablade, though, is a real nasty at just about any force above three... as long as you have a good enough blade or club pool to regularly hit with.

hey /tg/ im making a shaman/face who relies heavily on summons, illusion, and manipulation spells
i saw a cool totem called the gargoyle
http://denver.wikidot.com/info:mythic-totems
is this totem cannon or fan made and if so whats the source book?
also im taking any suggestions for a better totem if you got them

>>49954388
These are for 3e you know that, right?

>>49954427
no im brand new to shadowrun
any suggested totem for a 5e shaman/face?
do you think that totem would work well in 5e? if not what should change?

>>49954489
>no im brand new to shadowrun
Go to the OP pastebin
there should be a link to a pdf named "GM Advice"
READ IT
Afterwards ask your GM what books he allows
READ THOSE BOOKS. There's a link to them in the Pastebin
Download chummer5. Download link is in the OP. One of the devs posts here as yekka. Go to the settings and select the books your GM allows.

>any suggested totem for a 5e shaman/face?
>do you think that totem would work well in 5e? if not what should change?
It depends. Mentor Spirits (this is what they are called since 4e) Are viable. In 5e they should be in the Corebook and in Street Grimoire.
The list you linked isn't usable since
>Mentor Spirits don't depend on environment
>There are no "City Spirits"
>Different kind of dice tests

Read up on the (mentor) spirits that are there. Remember: The Spirits don't have to be called that way. Some may call Bear, some may call a saint of healing, some may call some different animal. What matters is stats and behavior.

Once you did this you can ask further. Any Questions?

>>49954628
>There are no "City Spirits"
i ment spirit of man
from what my dm says you can only summon spirits in their environment
also i have chummer 5 and it's a mess to use
my last (poorly optimized) character died and thats why im rolling a new one
i wanted to just plug in my old character to see how much karma he earned since creation but im having a ton of problems (dm says i can add half of that karma to my new guy)
as most of our missions take place in a city it makes sense that i would want bonus dice to summon those types of spirits
i do appreciate the help btw
this is my first game of shadowrun and i have been doing horribly
i actually killed my last guy
i was down to 1 box and when no one was looking i just crossed it off because i didnt see any way of salvaging him

>>49954707
>from what my dm says you can only summon spirits in their environment
Are you sure you are playing 5e? Because in 5e you can summon 5 different spirits depending on your tradition. But WHERE you summon them doesn't matter at all

>i wanted to just plug in my old character to see how much karma he earned since creation but im having a ton of problems
Chummer5 character files are .chum5. What did you use previously?

>as most of our missions take place in a city it makes sense that i would want bonus dice to summon those types of spirits
Again, in 4e and 5e it doesn't matter where you are if you want to summon a spirit. It's just as difficult to summon a spirit of man in a corp complex as it is on a farm

>i do appreciate the help btw
you're welcome

>this is my first game of shadowrun and i have been doing horribly
wait. You had a previous Sr character. But this is your first game. What?

>i was down to 1 box and when no one was looking i just crossed it off because i didnt see any way of salvaging him
You do know that you can burn one point of edge and have your character survive should he die?

>>49954792
>>from what my dm says you can only summon spirits in their environment
>Are you sure you are playing 5e? Because in 5e you can summon 5 different spirits depending on your tradition. But WHERE you summon them doesn't matter at all
im 100% sure it's 5e
however the gm could be changing the rules around as i have seen him do something similar in a pathfinder game
>>i wanted to just plug in my old character to see how much karma he earned since creation but im having a ton of problems
>Chummer5 character files are .chum5. What did you use previously?
pen and paper
so yeah
>>as most of our missions take place in a city it makes sense that i would want bonus dice to summon those types of spirits
>Again, in 4e and 5e it doesn't matter where you are if you want to summon a spirit. It's just as difficult to summon a spirit of man in a corp complex as it is on a farm
i will have to speak with him about this
>>i do appreciate the help btw
>you're welcome

>>this is my first game of shadowrun and i have been doing horribly
>wait. You had a previous Sr character. But this is your first game. What?
this is my first game
my character died but the campaign goes on
i just have to roll up a new guy to continue
>>i was down to 1 box and when no one was looking i just crossed it off because i didnt see any way of salvaging him
>You do know that you can burn one point of edge and have your character survive should he die?
yes i know
the dm helped me make the character but i made some poor choices when i was making him
1. i was a shaman and only took magic as priority b
2. i made my character out to be a mafia criminal and roleplayed him as such but the group roleplays as goody 2 shoes who can do no wrong but just so happen to steal and murder people
so there was some conflict there as well

>>49954904
>changing the rules around
that he apparently is
it seems like he wants to make an unholy hybrid of 3e and 5e

>pen and paper
yeah, if your GM uses 3e rules as well then no wonder you can't recreate your character in a tool for making 5e characters only

>i just have to roll up a new guy to continue
since your GM seems to (apparently arbitrarily) mix 3e and 5e rules we can't really help you with it. sorry chummer

>>49954707

> i have chummer 5 and it's a mess to use

Fukken computer illiterates

Do you have any stories set in the more suburban parts of the city, /srg/? I want some "the party almost got caught because an old lady living next door complained about the noise" kinda shit

hey guys, a quick question from my groups soon-to-be-rigger: is the ammo bin mod just a greater version of the extended magazine weapon mod? is there anything more to it? Or does it just allow a dron to CARRY more ammo, but you still need a way to reload stored magazines. I would understand it for a belt fed weapon to just be a storage for the long, linked belt, but for weapons that use clips?

I have a friend who wants to run Shadowrun, but she doesn't have the rules. I'm thinking of giving it to her for christmas, so which edition is considered to best around here? Also, are there any good resources online on how a shadowrun game should be done?

>>49957310
I'd go with 5e since it's the newest one and the one I personally like the most.

The OP has a few links about that, too.

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>>49949755
Methuman Adjustment is 500¥ per seat. If that's breaking the bank for you, rigger probably isn't the best career choice you could have made.

As for skills, you need Gunnery and Pilot, and Electronic Warfare if you use drones. You might WANT the electronics and engineering skill groups to maintain your vehicles yourself, but it's easily handwaved by a high-loyalty mechanic contact.

Hell, just giving a human the same statline as a pixie in karmagen costs 110 Karma.

>>49954707
Why on earth does your GM not know how much Karma he's given you?
>>49957030
It's essentially an extended magazine, increasing the specified weapon's capacity by 250 rounds. All drone weapons are belt-fed, and replace their original capacity with 250 + additional ammo bins.

What are some of your house rules? What are some things that are completely off your table?

I personally rule out Technomancers entirel.

Hello, /srg/!

Are pirates still a major thing in the Caribbean League as of 2075? Enough to run a campaign about them? I'm reading Cyberpirates! now, but I know this book is based around the 2060s.

I know it doesn't matter that much because there really isn't much established setting unless I'm in Seattle, Denver, Manhattan etc, but I figured I'd ask here while reading to get a more concise answer. Thanks in advance!

>>49957576
Stun damage from chemical weapons can't kill people.

Seriously, Neuro Stun kills faster than Seven-7 7 if your DM doesn't homebrew that.

Also, I give a lot more karma than standard recommendation.

>>49957479
>Why on earth does your GM not know how much Karma he's given you?
apparently he thought i would know to keep track of it even though i told him i never played before and have only ever played dnd
so partly my fault, if chummer would fucking work it wouldnt be a problem but i put everything in and it either says i spent too much or not enough so i guess im using a calculator

using the priority system of 5e how much karma does a freshly made runner have?
yes i know you SHOULD have 0 i mean how much karma does it take to make a brand new runner?

>>49957382
Alright, thanks. Does Shadowrun have a skub thing going on with the different editions or is it mostly the same?

>>49957701
hahahahahaahahahahahaha you really are new

>>49957677
>priority
>karma
???

>>49957701
You mostly have
>CGL editions vs FASA editions
and in the CGL editions you have
>4e vs 5e.

>>49957719
>hahahahahaahahahahahaha you really are new
did me saying "it's my first game and i still dont know what im doing"
give it away?

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>>49957719
I sure am!

>>49957737
Thanks, I guess this will make things harder for me.

>>49957737
page 64 phb 5th edition

>>49957701
basically

>1e is a tech proof and a dirty one at that
>2e is somewhat clean on things but it's clunky as fuck on certain aspects (like decking)
>3e is granularity hell, avoid at all costs
>4e is pretty solid in terms of rules, but it's very different from the feel the rest have, i personally don't like it because it feels more like generic cyberpunk than shadowrun
>5e still retains some of the older feel with some shiny bits added in, and while mostly consistent it has gaping holes here and there and some contradictions that you'll have to patch up with homebrew, but it's still overall the best one

>>49957788
>>4e is pretty solid in terms of rules, but it's very different from the feel the rest have, i personally don't like it because it feels more like generic cyberpunk than shadowrun
You mean it doesn't feel like Cyberpunk at all.

>>49957745
>>49957770
Are you samefagging or was someone really autistic enough to impersonate the newfag?

>>49957799
i didn't say it feels like Cyberpunk
i said it feels like generic cyberpunk

>>49957782
no no, I KNOW what priority and karmagen is
but if you use priority, what does the starting Karma matter?

>>49957822
im adding that karma to my total karma
my recent character died so i can split my total karma and give it to my new guy so im not super weak compared to the rest of the team

>>49957811
Didn't samefag, dunno why they impersonated me. I'm >>49957770 and >>49957701 and
>>49957310

Well, I guess it doesn't matter. I got enough info to get going. Thanks for the info!

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>>49944474
That's what he said, anon. Giants are suboptimal compared with orcs or other metatypes, but not game-breakingly bad.

>>49957622
You're trying to build a career character with character generation mode, so it's trying to warn you that you've over spent on everything. Enable the Ignore Character Creation Rules option, or tell your GM to stop dicking you around and give you a number.

Otherwise, post your sheet and I'll give you a napkin-math estimate.
>>49957677
What are you trying to ask, exactly? A priority character starts with 25 free karma and can carry 7(?) of it over to career mode.

>>49957814
>i didn't say it feels like Cyberpunk
>i said it feels like generic cyberpunk
Is there a difference between Cyberpunk and generic Cyberpunk?

>>49957897
yeah, Cyberpunk is a game with a certain take on cyberpunk, while cyberpunk is a genre that spans many flavors, one of them being shadowrun

you might think Cyberpunk is generic cyberpunk, but it still has it's own take on a bunch of things, so when i say 4e feels like generic cyberpunk i don't mean it feels like Cyberpunk, i mean it feels somewhat detached from shadowrun's feel and fills in certain aspects of the game with things that you'd find in different works that make use of the cyberpunk genre - for example, proper decking being gone and hacking being the big thing in 4e's universe

>>49957897
No, anon is being autistic and expecting everyone to know that he means "Cyberpunk 2020" by cyberpunk.

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>>49957866
behold! my train-wreck of a shaman
as garbage as he was
ill miss him

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>>49958005
>form fillable print

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>>49952795
Alchemy Health Spells need a Command Word, which makes them objectively more flexible than the regular touch-only casting.

Sure, you need LOS to the person with the Magic LifeAlert, but that's a lot easier than running through suppressive fire to pick up the sammy.

>>49957479
Where does it say, that drone weapons are by nature belt-fed?

>>49957950
Jesus fuck who refers to 2020 as "Cyberpunk?"

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>>49957585
Yes. Lots of them. Read Hard Targets, it has a big section on Havana that is the most recent update to the Caribbean League fiction.

>>49958060
apparently this guy >>49957799
i actually didn't notice i kept saying Cyberpunk instead of 2020 i just kinda wanted to get the point across

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>>49958107
I was saying it doesn't feel like Cyberpunk, the genre, you idiot.

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>>49958033
>he doesn't fill out character sheets with a Brother typewriter

Child

>>49958056
Weapon Mounts.
>>49958005
Your train-wreck of a photo contains about two thirds of what I'd need to recreate it from scratch.

>>49958125
ah well then you're wrong

>>49958139
Yeah, I know what you mean, the part about heavy weapon mounts in the Corebook? They can hold 500 shots, not the make your Weapon belt-fed. And only for heavy weapon mounts. Switching a weapon to belt-fed costs additonal money (Rigger5.0, p124), just found it, still thanks. It still gives no reason for an ammo bin, those seem to be for cars, not drones. Hard to warp my mind around it right now, can't say it's good design...

>>49958148
Shadowrun 4th feels like someone couldn't decide whether they wanted Ghost in the Shell, 1984, Neuromancer, or to just say fuck it and go full Lord of the Rings.

The game's setting feels like a haphazard mishmash of everything the writers could think of, with some vain attempt to redefine a dead genre instead of just going in to a new genre (Transhumanism + 1984 kind of is the modern equiv to cyberpunk, whatever you'd call that) or sticking with actual cyberpunk.

>>49958248
well, that encapsulates the feeling i have much more than "it feels like generic cyberpunk"

you're right, it feels like they were trying to go for a lot of shit at the same time and i guess that's why i felt like it was generic

>>49958271
But it's not generic /cyberpunk/. Generic cyberpunk would be, admittedly, the Sprawl Trilogy (More or less because a lot of work deviated off of it), or Shadowrun's 1E and 2E settings.

As I said, it just feels like a big genre mishmash and a poor attempt to "modernize" something instead of making a new model, so to say.

>>49958248
>whatever you'd call that
dystopian?

>>49958206
So how do you imagine a drone reloads its weapons, then?
"Works as normal" is an easy way to handwave it, which only becomes problematic when you go into the details of how exactly that works with Agility-based reloading, so it's not surprising that would be missed.

On the other hand, "all gets refitted to a 250-round internal magazine" is also an easy way to handwave it, which only becomes problematic when you go into the details of why that doesn't cost a LOT of money and how that works with mounting/dismounting, so it's not surprising that would be missed.

>>49958674
Just gonna point out this bug I ran into earlier, since you weren't here at all when I posted it, I don't think.

>>49952440
>>49952463
>>49952522

>>49958674
I think a weapon mount alone means a drone just can't reload it's weapon. If it balzes all its glory, its back to dad for more candy cash aka "some reload my weapon pls, I don't have hands to do that". And Ammo Bin just replacing the original magazine, no. Why would that be possible, if you tinker on a Superwarhawk to make it a 250(m) instead of a 6(cy), you just broke something. It's basically a Superwarhawk Barrel with an entierly new weapon behind it. That can't be right.

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>>49948171

Gonna bring this up because people missed it.

Daily reminder that technomancers are shit, technocritters are double shit, and the idea of technoadepts is triple dog shit.

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>>49959216

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>>49958953
Fuuuuuck. Okay yeah I see the problem. Shouldn't be too hard to fix, just me being a nonce.
>>49959194
Well, that's one way to make drones absolutely terrible I guess.

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>>49959296

Prove me wrong, otaku scum.

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>>49958139

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>>49959473

Oh god make it stop, just learn to fucking write!

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>>49959473
>fillable
>form
>print

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>>49958139

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>>49958005
>>49959473
I cannot understand for the life of me what edition this is supposed to be. Hella homebrewed, whatever base it uses. I know the GM told you it's 5e, but it's really fucking far from 5e.

>>49959545
yeah im having a rough time
im honestly not 100% sure i even want to stay in the game
my last several sessions were me showing up to watch like 3 of the 6 of us do everything while the other half sat quietly
im hoping the new character lets me enjoy the game more, if not ill just drop it and it'll be hella awkward when he walks past me in the club having a blast in my dnd 3.5 game with a dm who treats his players great

>>49959314
Yeah, that is hilarious, but still a weird example. It's like taking a boy who dies from cancer as an example and evidence for the human life span being only around 23, the age the boy died. But as I already said, there is a mod that makes weapons belt fed, so nmw, but its NOT Ammo Bin. And thats my problem, Ammo bin seems to be useless, apart from giving already belt fed weapons more shots, but it's written like it's for all weapons. I will just give my player the expanding mod to make non-belt fed weapons belt fed, but it will cost him mod points and more cash. It's just not written in a good way. And btw, not giving every weapon a drone carries reloding or 250+ bullets, when almost all weapons worth using are high-mag is not quite making them "useless". Still thanks for the feedback, though

How do you decide what city you're gonna run your campaign in?

>>49959850

1. What city do you want to run a campaign in?

2. How much is already written about that city?

3. How much is written about the surrounding area/ country?

4. How much world building will you have to do?

5. How good are you at world building?

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>>49959850
I ask the players. Literally the first thing that someone throws out is where we play, unless someone immediately has a counter-city and there's more support for that. Either way, it's decided within about 2 minutes of Session 0.

My players know I am a sad lonely worldbuildfag with nothing better to do than spend all my time not working my job developing a city into it's SR version, using nothing but reference material from 20 years ago and Wikipedia articles on local culture

Are there any 2050s modules or pre-made campaigns for 5e?

>>49960308

Only homebrewed.

>>49960394
That's fine by me, do you have any recommendations to look for them?

Uh, where's AV Ammo at? Chummer says RG page 55, and I'm looking, and I'm not seeing it anywhere.

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>>49959650
Word of Freelancer in the Missions Errata is that the 250 round ammo bin becomes the weapon's clip for all intents and purposes.

It's your game, do what you want.
>>49960566
RG Errata.
P. 55, FLAME THROWER AMMO, AV ROUNDS, GYROJET ROUNDS, GAUSS ROUNDS MISSING FROM AMMO PRICES
The box does not contain stats for some ammo types mentioned
elsewhere in the book. The stats should be as follows:
Fuel canister: Avail 16F, Cost 40¥, 4 charges
AV rounds: DV —, AP Mod –1/–5(–1 for personal, –5 for vehicle armor), Avail 14R, Cost 175¥
Gyrojet ammo: DV –2S(e), AP -5 Avail 14R, Cost 160¥
Gauss: DV —, AP —, Avail 18F, Cost 400¥

>>49960646
Oh. RIP. Can fucking Assault Cannons load them?

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>>49960675
Unfortunately, Assault Cannons can only load Assault Cannon ammo in 5e.

>>49960714
>Hey guys, here's this rare, forbidden, supposedly high-end weapon!
>Oh, by the way, a sniper available at chargen outdoes it by loading ADPS

>like the rules of an edition
>don't like the setting

>like the setting of an edition
>don't like the rules

>converting or adapting to either is ass

>>49960756
Yeah, assault cannons are all kinds of fucked in 5th. In my games I've only ever seen them used as the proceeds of plunder. Gets more ridiculous when you add in shit like Bulls-Eye Double Tap.
>>49960843
Which edition are you having problems with? I've run a couple of campaigns in 2050 5e without any major problems.

>>49960893
What if you just houserule and make them all like 18P with -6 AP? Or is that secretly crazy and dumb?

>>49960893
Minor issue. The Horse Mentor Spirit, from Howling Shadows, allows you to take the Movement critter power as a Metamagic. I'm not sure if I'm not seeing it in Chummer, or if it's not there, or what's up. Would you be able to look into it, please?

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>>49938134

Do you enjoy incorporating modern sports references into latter 21st century sports rivalries and culture in your shadowrun games?

have a fun video.

https://youtu.be/bgmIfibE210?t=7s

Also would it make sense for sports teams from various countries across the balkanized North America to play against eachother?

I'm playing a character who has lived in Miami, which is part of the Caribbean League, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, USCA, and part of california, FreeCal and I'm wondering if teams from those different countries play against one another or are in different tournaments.

>>49961467

Well..down here in Australia we have the National Rugby League. One of the teams in the NRL is the New Zealand Warriors.

It happens already so why the fuck not?

>>49961498

Thank you for the IRL example.

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>>49961020
Hrm. Well that'll be annoying to implement. I should be able to sort something out tonight.
>>49961002
Hrmmm. The problem is really that sniper rifles already easily fill the niche that assault cannons have. I guess you could double their AP against structures and vehicles or things with Hardened Armour, that'd give a lot more reason to use them.
>>49961498
To be fair that's largely because nobody else could be convinced to play rugby.

>>49961647
>To be fair that's largely because nobody else could be convinced to play rugby.
That and we're in the process of gearing up for a conquest of new zealand and need to make sure the public is ready.

Its why we've started running these ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RenRILqwhJs

>>49961647
Thanks, man. I really appreciate it.

>>49959216
>technomancers are shit, technocritters are double shit, and the idea of technoadepts is triple dog shit
I strongly agree.

Who the fuck reads 'technoadept' and doesn't cringe involuntarily?

>>49961864

What do you even do as a technoadept?

"I can hack commlinks and render them useless by punching it really hard".

>>49962007
Right? It just sounds like such a fucking stupid non-thing.

>>49962007
Echoes like that one that gave them VR initiative in meatspace, mostly.

Someone growing up in Saito occupied San Francisco has to know at least some Japanese right?

>>49962140
Not necessarily.

Should I give my mage a grenade launcher or something with less team killer potential like a HVAR? This guy isnt street sam tier shooty I just need something to help out.

>>49962639
Summon spirits, get an automatic with a big ammo capacity, lay down suppressive fire.

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>>49962639

an assault rifle and some extra deep mags to feed it.

Pic related.

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>>49963243

75 and 100 round drum mags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccowTSP-odE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUlLIeNT6A

So I have been reading 4th edition and thinKing of running a game but can only scrounge up 2 players. Any ideas?

>>49963427
Are you asking us how to get more players?
Really?

>>49963427
Uh, hi, I'm a player and at this point I'd suck dick for a game.

>>49963444
Oops I meant ideas on running it with a small player group. Most games have only ever been 4 or 5 people and I worry about what to do so as not to kill them or leave them bored as I push inter character rp pretty heavy.

>>49963476
Sadly I wouldn't start for a while gotta finish the semester at college and all that. But shoot me a way to contact you and I'll keep ya in mind if your still game

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>>49963427
>So I have been reading 4th edition and thinking of running a game but can only scrounge up 2 players. Any ideas?

Are you looking to play an In-Person Group or a group that meets to play over the internet?

If you are looking for the latter then head on over to irc.thisisnotatrueending.com to find people to talk about Shadowrun with and potential players.

Here is the link
https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23suptg&server=irc.thisisnotatrueending.com

I have other places to look too but they are a little more exclusive so you will need to contact me via email before I will tell you about them.

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>>49963427
>>49963608

forgot to give you my contact email it is [email protected]

>>49963581
Contact on...? Skype? What's your name?

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Does anyone have any good homebrew metavariants/metasapients?

>>49949755
>While there is no lifestyle cost, you have to get a modification on cars in order to use them, and since you're a rigger the ability to drive cars is kinda a big deal.
>>49957479
>Methuman Adjustment is 500¥ per seat. If that's breaking the bank for you, rigger probably isn't the best career choice you could have made.
Only necessary outside of chargen, when you find/borrow/purchase/steal something and the GM throws a spanner into your plans for reasons. Poor rolls if you bought it (aka magicked it into existence via the power of cash money), or the previous owner wasn't your type otherwise.

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Is there anyway to play a character that communicates exclusively through symbols/images well?

>>49963926
If it's in-person, bring a whiteboard and dry erase markers to draw on.

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>>49963926

i recommend practising playing such characters in a less crunch heavy and less serious game to develop an effective system before moving to shadowrun.

my first character who communicated though images, charades, and such was played in a game of MAID.

She was the ascended spirit of a recently restored mansion inhabiting the skeleton of a murder victim who's ghost the spirit had imprinted on and hung out with for about 45 years before the ghost made peace and moved on.

The rest of the party dubbed her "Dem Bones" and she could only communicate though written words, charades, and exaggerated body language.

I played her for a few months to get to grips with conveying emotions and thoughts with no face an no voice.

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>>49964056
>i recommend practising playing such characters in a less crunch heavy and less serious game to develop an effective system before moving to shadowrun
>Implying I can find games in anything other than Shadowrun, GURPS, and D&D

Do you have any idea how long I've been trying to play an Eclipse Phase game? That said, I'll do what I can. It's good advice.

>>49963986
This works really well. I was planning on having the character communicate through a visor/pair of sunglasses like the ones in pic related. Either with single words in Japanese, emojis, or rarely short scrolling text. Also body language and gestures of course.

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>>49964078
>Either with single words in Japanese, emojis, or rarely short scrolling text.

Kinda like Zero from Borderlands 2? I can dig it.

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>>49963264

how to suppress groups and perforate people.

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After rummaging through the shadowrun returns portraits I found this one labelled as a Gnome. Is this what Gnomes actually look like in shadowrun? I dont think I've seen a pic of them before..

>>49965282
Gnomes just look like even smaller dwarves, so I suppose they could look like that, among a lot of other things.

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>>49958953
Right, that's fixed in the latest build. Sorry about that.

>>49959542
>>49958005
Your train-wreck of a character seems to have been built with multiple B priorities, as far as I can tell. Attributes line up perfectly with B, skills are B give or take a point or two that I might have optimised differently, Resources are at least D unless you got some of that gear in game. Magic is prooooobably C? Also you can't start with a rating 6 spellcasting foci.

It's easier to make in karmagen, but everything is easier to make in karmagen.

>>49965282
Not really, but that art's from Hong Kong anyway. Gnomes are genetically largely from Turkey, so bronze skin and larger noses will predominate.

>>49965386
>a foci
Focus, darling. Foci is the plural.

>>49962140
>Someone growing up in Saito occupied San Francisco has to know at least some Japanese right?
>Someone growing up in Mexican-filled Sacramento has to know at least some Spanish, right?
Nah. The majority, certainly, but it's not universal.

>>49967186
If anything, I think you're making his argument, but in reverse, given that sacramento was nicked from mexico back in the day and the majority of the people living there are fluent in english now.

>>49967186
Spanish is a lot closer to English than Japanese is. Also, San-Fran was an occupation, not natural like Sacramento. Not a majority of East Germans knew Russian despite being under Soviet occupation for 40-ish years.

>>49965282
Gnomes look like children - they have a quality to represent it and everything. They're pedobait.

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>>49965282
Clockwise from top:
Koborokuro
Gnomes
Menehune
Harumen

>>49963656
Sorry fell asleep.

[email protected]

>>49967545
whoops
file name should be "Dwarf metaVARIANTS Runners companion"

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>>49965282
It's nice to see how good they've gotten at making portraits in hong kong, taking in account how dragonfall portraits don't really cut it and returns portraits are absolute garbage

Anyone got any good alternatives for the 5e character sheet? I'm not really feeling that one.

>>49968811
Chummer. Read the fucking OP.

>>49968841
if you're gonna use the read the op meme you gotta make sure the thing being requested is in the op you fucking walnut

>>49969143
See:

>>49938134
>Chummer5: https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/releases

Read the OP - including the pastebin - and don't be such a cunt about it.

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>>49969143

* Your Chummer > Tools > Options books list has been unchecked https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/releases

>>49969166
that's not a character sheet, that's a character generator

i'm asking for alternate character sheets

>>49969183
>i'm asking for alternate character sheets
Then you can go fuck yourself, desu.

>>49969198
Also in the Pastebin (for 5e at least)

>>49969204
Fug replied to the wrong person

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>>49941478
>have an oni Lo Wang in the group
>also a Squatch decker
This group is going to be a glorious shit show and I can't wait

>>49969223
>>49969204
also wrong, only sheet in the OP is 5e's form fillable and chummer5, there are no other character sheet variants

>>49962109
I always wondered why it had a slot for VR init when its the same as meatspace init. Makes sense.

>>49962109
Mesh Realities? It might be what TM needs to stop sucking in 5e.

Having to Submerge (at least once if not twice) to get it though... I'd prefer a complete reworking from the ground up.

Is there a reason chummer breaks everytime i try to search for a weapon?
Common Bug?

>>49938134
My players are raiding a morgue to get SIN samples. What could go wrong?

Other than Shedim.

>>49971328
They run into Jake Armitage and he's DOGdamn mad that they interrupted his nap.

>>49971328
The morgue is in the basement of a police department and they have to deal with swarms of angry cops?

>>49971555
You'd think that, but no, it's subcontracted out to these autopsy folks who also do cremations.

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>>49970569
Yeah, there were a bunch of weapons that had the Quality category, which didn't exist. When you do a search, it tries to append the Category to the end of the item's name. No category = failed lookup = crash. Should be fixed in current nightlies.

>>49967548
Tossed one.

Can a Gnome make a decent mage or will the arcane arrester quality just completely fuck that concept over and should I just go decker instead?

>>49975910
It'll fuck it up pretty damn bad. You can still do it, but I'd argue it might be the literally worst mage meta.

Hey so I'm looking for the stats on the Saber-Tooth Cat found in the Tennessee Suite 1 CMP. If anyone can find it, I'd be, well, deeply grateful. It's alluded to in the SRM FAQ, but no stats are given that I can see. SR5, obvs.

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/srg/, stat the hacker known as "4 chan"

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How do I get that dice pool up higher? Is this a character that'd be better off going all 'ware, or can it still be done with burnout? Forgive the terrible name, it was 1AM when I made it up.

B/C/C/D/C

>>49976982
You could start by actually putting points into Artisan. I don't know how you plan on being the best painter in the world without it.

>>49976982
>Foot anchor
>Skimmers
lolwut?

>>49977057
I figured if I was going to get cyberfeet (or legs as I decided on), I'd gotta go fast.

Skimmers aren't always active right? I can jet around, stop, and bust out the shield and anchors?

>>49976982
>Brown curly EYES
hehehee fuck

By any chance would anyone have a chart for metatype to dong size? My group is trying to figure out if ork dicks are actually bigger than human dicks and that's why the elves go for orks.

>>49971328

One of the corpses had a fuckton of paydata implanted in a chip under his skull. There's a hacker looking for it now. Or a Ghoul-Break in flavored like a dungeon crawl with guns

>>49978297
>By any chance would anyone have a chart for metatype to dong size? My group is trying to figure out if ork dicks are actually bigger than human dicks and that's why the elves go for orks.

Getting ORKED is just a pop culture bullshit thing.

Now Trolls on the other hand...

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>>49978297

>>49978326
Well see, my character lives in a racially profiled neighborhood and has never seen a dong that isn't human or elf, so we're trying to get a reference point here. I've heard trolls actually have smaller dongs than normal.

Also orks don't have a long lifespan so their genitals have to compensate so they can breed more, right? Orks have to have something going on to ensure more orks happen.

>>49978349
>Also orks don't have a long lifespan so their genitals have to compensate so they can breed more, right?

That makes no sense at all. Look if you want your Ork to have a big elf killing dick get him cyber genitalia. For bonus points add a holdout pistol to it.

>>49978370
It makes plenty. From an evolutionary standpoint, the Ork creatures need to breed quickly and mature quickly, and die quickly, so they've likely got an insane libido. Since there's now all these thirsty fucking orks, you'd need something going on to compete with other Orks. So either Duck Corkscrew Penis, Hook Wolf Penis, or Giant Omega Dong Penis.

>>49978370
Well my old character was a troll minotaur with a jackhammer penis and cyberboobs, but this time I decided to keep it simple with a pure human female, so no augments.

Problem is, coming from FATAL, SR5 really doesn't have metatype charts for genital size at all, unless there's some lore somewhere I missed.

>>49978444

I always figured that Orks knotted or something..

>>49978453
>coming from FATAL

bullshit, nobody plays FATAL

>>49978477
Get drunk and make a bunch of people roll for anal circumference and see who dies to anal tearing first. It's actually pretty great.

>>49978476
Yeah I mean they have to have something. Traditional pop culture just has giant orc dongs but I need to find out if that's true or not.

So if you were to spend Corpscrip for a corporation you don't have a SIN for, is it likely they will tax you more? Or discount you for going out of your way to shop at their subsid?

>>49978349
The thing that orks have going for them from a breeding perspective is that their women almost always have multiple births. Fraternal twins are the norm, sometimes with them splitting into one or two sets of identical twins too. Add on to that the fact that a 12-year-old ork is the physical equivalent of an 18-year-old but with only 12 years of life experience and common sense, and you get a whole lot of ork babies very quickly. Plus, some sources imply that ork women give birth after only six months of pregnancy rather than nine.

The ork men don't really feature into the breeding logistics. Since babies conceived by orks are almost always orks regardless of the other parent's metatype, ork women reproduce like this no matter what men they're with. And the multiple birth thing is only for ork women - a female elf impregnated by a male ork is going to have elf-style gestation and birthing, but of a baby ork.

Anyway, ork dongs are probably slightly bigger than human dongs on average (with plenty of variance) because orks are slightly bigger than humans, and a man's healthy body weight is the most strongly-correlated factor for penis size. Far moreso than ethnicity or anything else like that. So, a nearly troll-sized motherfucker of an ork statistically has a high probability of having a big dick. One who's small for an ork - or even on the short side for a human - probably less so.

Also, a reminder that humans are the fragile, weak metatype, not elves. Humans are the second shortest (after dwarves), and tied for the worst Body and Strength, identical to elves. Elves are equal to or better than humans in every physical stat, and are taller than humans too.

Since theres no ruger thunderbolt in 5e yet, could I just grab a guardian and say its a thunderbolt? they have similar stats right?

>>49978598
They'll probably just treat it as a normal purchase.

>>49978759
Yeah, a Guardian is mechanically more or less just a Thunderbolt, and vice versa.

>>49978598
I doubt they'd care. The point of corpscrip is to make dumbasses spend their money at SK stores. It doesn't really matter who that dumbass is.

>>49978832
I'd definitely see that at first, but wouldn't it be useful for the corps to create an illusion that scrip is more valuable than money? Or on the flipside, hit said dumbasses with unseen fees and taxes so their scrip is worth even less? I feel like the last thing you'd want to do is create some dead sub-economy with all of your people roped in who would eventually need to jockey for real NuYen.

>>49978989
>wouldn't it be useful for the corps to create an illusion that scrip is more valuable than money?
No. Historically, it was worth a lot less, cuz the corps charged absurd amounts for things. After all, when you get paid in Horizon Fun Bucks, ain't anywhere else you get to spend it.
>Or on the flipside, hit said dumbasses with unseen fees and taxes so their scrip is worth even less?
Nah. It's not unseen. It's written right there on the price tag.

>>49976982
I appreciate your efforts to select skills, ware, and adept powers that suited the backstory, but some of those flavoring decisions are in places you'd otherwise be enhancing your core dice pools. If a player brought this sheet to me I would probably recommend they pick between adept and cyber then rebuild with more advantageous priorities.

>>49978326

So Trolls seem to vary wildly in body size. There seem to be tall-human sized trolls, and then big mother fuckers that can't fit in cars.

So I assume the dick action is the same thing.

In any case if IRL humans are capable of Mandingo dicks then I'd assume everything but Pixies are capable of gargantushlong and teeny dicks.

Does a Decker need to buy a commlink, in addition to their deck?
I've always assumed a deck did everything a commlink can and more, but I'm just realizing I don't think that's actually stated anywhere.

>>49979529
They function as commlinks, but commlinks are legal for anyone to own and decks aren't.

I'm making an infiltrator/sniper/recon guy for our team and I figured giving him a fly spy or other spy drone like the lockheed would be a pretty damn good idea, but I dont want to go full rigger.

Would I still need an RCC to protect them or could I get away with a nice commlink?

>>49980008

You need a Rigger Control Console to use drones yes, but you don't need the Control Rig Cyberware or anything.