Pathfinder General /pfg/

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>>49864374
What is this, a privateer for the Myrmecodian Armada?

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>>49864374
>Are your PCs exploring the open ocean?

I'd like to explore your ocean, anon.

Maybe plunder it too and have my fill of booty.

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>>49864432
No. The artist wanted to try something different.

>http://www.deviantart.com/art/Pompous-Privateer-251765808

Anyone know where I can get a copy of Legendary Vigilantes, and the playtest material for the new book?

Wouldn't you know it, OP, I'm GMing a Skulls and Shackles Campaign.

Thing is, Ship to Ship Combat is a bitch and a half without a mat so we ususally skip it.

Question for everybody. What do you use to manage encounters? I use combat manager, but it hasn't been updated in so long that it's list of monsters isn't current enough for some of the books I'm using. Is there a better tool out there that does some of the same things?

>>49864623

What parts are you having trouble managing?

I use figured, maps, paizo magnetic initiative tracker and printed out monster stats for IRL game and tokens and maps and the PRD for Roll20 games.

>>49864623
roll20

This isn't related to oceanic exploration, but it's the /pfg/ so oh well...

The Gunslinger (Bolt-Ace) can start with a masterwork crossbow of their choice for free, no limits mentioned. This means they can have a masterwork heavy repeating crossbow (700gp purchase price) at level 1.

The problem is that the heavy repeater is one of the heaviest weapons in the game at 12lbs. In an adventure where the GM is enforcing the encumbrance rules in full this can be quite limiting.

If it were made of Darkwood the value would be 820gp and the weight would only be 6lbs.

What do you think, /pfg/, of letting a player use part of their starting wealth to pay the difference between these values (120gp) and have their free starting weapon be made of a special material?

Acceptable? No? Maybe?

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>>49864623
I haven't run that one, and I haven't done ship to ship combat.

The last time I tried, it was after the APG came out. The Summoner used his flying eidolon to engage the other ship. After the enemy Cleric banished it, the Summoner called something else and cast Create Pit. The PCs never boarded the enemy ship.

I no longer allow Summoners or Create Pit in my games.

>>49864641
We play in person at out local game store, I manage die rolls and initiatives using combat manager, and display the unannotated map up on a second monitor. It's not the most efficient system, and we frequently lose track of where plyers are in relation to each other (though I myself am good at plotting such things out in my mind)

Combat manager on its own does almost everything I could want it to, but it doesn't have all of the books I need. It manages initiative and can roll saves and attacks for any players I put in, as well as for monsters that it has entries for.

>>49864689
We actually have a summoner in our party. And his strategy is to make flying leaps onto the other ship to flank enemies waiting for us to board.

>>49864689
>I no longer allow Summoners or Create Pit in my games.
I assume you also ban all full casters and anything with a ranged attack?

>>49864623

I throw out most of the ship chasing and whatnot and skip right to boarding. I allow some checks for bonuses if players took Profession Sailor.

>>49864689

Something doesn't look right about the way her breast is shaped in relation to her pose.

>>49864722
Ah, I didn't clarify, so the parts that are difficult to manage are basic positioning, orientation, and speed of ships, that I elected to simply ignore (and the book says that it's optional, so I see no big deal).

>>49864734
I have a similar system. I have each player do a climb check. DC 10 to arrive on the ship flat footed, DC 15 to arrive on the ship, DC 20 to arrive on the ship and attack the same round.

Below a 10 and you fall into the water and need to give another climb check next round at a -5.

>>49864679
Heavy repeaters are trash. They're literally designed to punish you even further - non-repeater lights can use your iterative attacks with rapid reload, but repeaters fuck you up until you have crossbow mastery just like a regular heavy.

What you want is a Minotaur Double Crossbow (NOT the regular double crossbow, that's designed to fuck you over with its wording. And I do mean designed. As in this shit was deliberate, especially the parts made worse by "errata") instead. Since you can start with any crossbow, go for something good you can't get otherwise easily even though it's even pfs legal (that's how legal is, it's not even banned from "lol cranewing too stronk").

Inner Sea Temples?! Curse of the Crimson Throne?!!

>>49864763
check out the last thread for a taste

>>49864763

Inner Sea Temples was posted last thread, beyond some snazzy art it was totally worthless.

Curse of the Crimson Throne gave us a New and Improved Trinia Sabor (limited edition) and a Controversial Laori Vaus.

>>49864759
>Minotaur Double Crossbow
Where is this from?

>>49864734
Uh, but what if they want to sink it before it even gets into grapple range?

Like, one of the PCs in my group is basically an artillery platform, and another could probably kill everyone on there with poison clouds so that there's no boarding left just looting, so long as they can get a turn or three.

Skipping ahead to melee reeks of an FPS with really bad pop-in problems, where the sniper rifle is useless by virtue of enemies only appearing or leaving their invisible impassable walls once they're like ten meters away.

>>49864781

I was hoping this thread might have it...

>>49864790

I heard there was an excellent occult ritual for some in Inner Sea Temples.

What about a version of Chained Spirit? Or Danse Macabre?

>>49864733
>I assume you also ban... anything with a ranged attack?
If you throw your sword at something, you immediately wink out of existence.

>>49864802
the easiest place to find it (there IS a pathfinder book though I just forget the title) is in the minotaur entry on pfsrd. The weapon's stats are for 'large' though so if you don't have powerful build do remember you'll need to scale the damage down to a medium version.

>>49864825

>You throw your sword at something
>You wink out of existence
>You wink back into existence the moment the sword is within melee distance

>>49864752
It's an Escher Girl pose.

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>>49864733
The next game I run will have those, DSP psionics, and PoW.

>>49864866
Isn't this main character's ability from FF15?

>>49864752
It's a classic comic book pose.

>>49864609
I don't think anyone's uploaded legendary vigilantes, but maybe someone saved the playtest.

>>49864816

It never came up. My players always wanted to capture the ships to either repurpose or sell

>>49864937
Fuckin same. Every ship boarding lasts three rounds at the absolute most due to one player (who I unwisely let create a custom goblin race that makes his spells OP as shit) poisoning and entangling everyone on a ship before everyone does their boarding action, so It's just a matter of getting on and finishing them off.

I've taken to calling Ship's Officers "Player Starter Kits" because of their decent low-level gear and potions.

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>>49865004
>"Player Starter Kits"

>>49864752
>>49864896
>>49864900

It's probably the way her breast is jutting out at a ridiculous 120 degree angle from her back.

>>49864759
Are they trash? Never really looked into it, but isn't pulling the lever a free action? That'd imply you could attack five times in a round.

>>49865056
Assuming you can already make that many attacks. Also you then need to spend a full-round action to "reload"

>>49865028
Where does she store her kidneys?

>>49865090

Above her butt, just like everyone else.

>>49865090
I mean, presumably in the breasts. Definitely can't be fat in those, given how little of that she seems to have...

>>49865169

The thing that makes this even funnier is the kidneys are always sheathed in a fat-ball for insulation and protection.

>>49865191
>>49865169
>>49865090
Fun fact, bats of the genus Myotis have kidneys roughly the same size as their heads

>>49865235
Maybe those ARE kidneys. On her chest.

>>49865262

S-So what comes out of her nipples?

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>>49865090
It's artwork by Genzoman, so maybe in her thighs.

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What would you say your character's best physical feature is, /pfg/?

>want to play pf in person
>No friends who want to play it

How do you find a group in real life? Used to play in college.

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>>49865475
Put up flyers at a LGS.
Look for a Meetup group.

>https://www.meetup.com/

>GET JUST ENOUGH ENERGY AND TIME TO WRITE A BIT

>immediately begin shitting on my own writing and ideas and wanting to change things

>writers block

>literally added 2 paragraphs

kill me

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Putting up some homebrew I've done over the past couple of months. All of them are pretty close to done, though feedback is highly appreciated on any that people are interested in.

Fusilier - Explosives and Firearms happy Harbinger archetype.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/181xuVW9TAYjZpgWS0q6U4A9SqJZG8CcXGG2lIMwn3Fw/edit?usp=sharing

Dashing Romantic - A love and charm based paladin archetype.
Initiating version:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xc-dvBYn1491dvF1ctGOgxt41xBaAto_WMno9dFiYEs/edit?usp=sharing
Non-initiating version:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vHZu4JK6aVLU11mnlZNH7TjA1d70uYYXFEbEGagLcDo/edit?usp=sharing

An Alternate take on the Magical Tail feats, trying to make them a bit more worthwhile/interesting for Kitsune subtypes.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16cNZwfDnx6NX3RRpatFtSteWqbfCIFp7E4Lr5yvh32Y/edit?usp=sharing

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>>49865677
What were you trying to write?

>>49865677
>WRITE A BIT
>2 paragraphs
Mission accomplished.

>>49865700
I'm working some more on my Old West setting book doing cities and stuff and immediately paralyzed myself by being FUCK IST HAT ENOUGH CITIES HOW DO I NAME THINGS FUCKING SHOOT ME I HAVE NO NAMING SCHEME REEEEE

>>49865677

>tfw writers block for 6 years

>>49865702
i wanna die

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>>49865728
>>49865702

>tfw you can pinpoint the exact moment when you woke up and realized you're out of ideas, can't think of ideas, don't want to think of ideas, and every time you need to make a character you procrastinate

I WANT TO WAKE UP FROM THIS FRESH HELL.

>>49865750

So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

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>>49865719
Do what they did for the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3.0).

List the major cities, metropolises, and a few large towns. Add a paragraph saying there's a small town or village every 20 square miles.

>>49865728
You're not ready for Nanowrimo, are you?

>>49865815
I probably will, i just need a naming scheme

I have like 5 or so major city/towns that need names, 1 needs a different naming dynamic

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So, what's the best way to dual wield and reload crossbows, excluding weird shit like the Vestigial Hand or Prehensile Hair? I might be able to swing 3PP with the GM, but first party option are preferable. Bolt Ace was my intended class.

>>49865815
>You're not ready for Nanowrimo, are you?

Lmao. I thought I was hot shit when Lulu was out. Now I recognize what I really am. It is usually drunk.

>>49865832
>i just need a naming scheme

What culture is the nation based on?

Find that out, go to the "list of settlements" wikipedia page for that country, and start stealing.

>>49865354
Her ever so firm and robust pumpkinhead.

>>49865867
ROUGHLY AMERICAN WHICH WOULD BE THE PROBLEM

>>49865903

Most american colonies originated from the English, the French, or the Spanish. You could even through in German and Dutch for kicks.

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>>49865832
>http://fantasynamegenerators.com/wild-west-town-names.php

>>49865851
Phantom Sun Stance?

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/disciplines-and-maneuvers/solar-wind-maneuvers
>While in this stance, the initiator may make semi-real copies of arrows, bolts, bullets, or throwing weapons by willing them into existing as a free action while possessing at least one of the above on his person. Weapons that need reloading, such as crossbows and firearms, are fully reloaded as a move action (and if the character possesses the Rapid Reload feat, he may reload as a swift action).

>>49865903

Was the settlement established near a silver mine? Congratulations, it's now Silvertown, or Silverton.

Was it settled near a creek where bears were often seen? Congratulations, it's now Bear Creek.

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>>49865903
Many American towns are named off of Native American works and names, like Milwaukee and stuff like that.
Combine that, as well as either descriptive town names, like "Shallowater" or "Falls Church", or towns named after people, or just some German/Dutch towns.

Seriously, American towns and cities can get away with anything.

>>49865974
its mostly east coast shit i'm worried about

>>49866030
>its mostly east coast shit i'm worried about

That shit's mostly named after old cities and famous explorers.

Philadelphia is an ancient name for a Middle Eastern city. Pennsylvania is named after Penn who found the land very forested (Sylvania.)

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>>49865354
I was going to say a bitching victory dance and upload a neat dance... but the image is about 3x too big.

So I'll go with her eyes being absolutely stunningly brilliantly pink, like a gemstone

>>49865832
New Aslackby
Featherstonhaugh
Old Chomondeley
Ratlinghope
Cheyenne

>>49865354

>aasimar with 24 CHA

All of him.

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>>49865354

His hair and beard is soft, silken and lustrous.

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>>49866063
Yay found the picture for eyecolor

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>>49866140

Why are her eyes so pink?

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>>49866154
They just are... she's often confused for an albino too with her white hair and pale complexion.

She isn't, she's just unusual. This was the stock photo I was using for her, albiet with different eyecolor.

>>49865932
Honestly, that's not even "American", that's basically everybody ever. It's just that "Silvertown" and "Bear Creek" sound like random shit in other languages. The fanciest-sounding elvish village names are all basically variations of "Tree Town" in elvish.

>>49865929
>Weapons that need reloading, such as crossbows and firearms, are fully reloaded as a move action (and if the character possesses the Rapid Reload feat, he may reload as a swift action).

Doesn't help at all, you still need to reload, it just provides the ammo.

>>49865961
Pretty much. Except she's 5 feet plus change and dresses like a witch as brazenly as one can. Pointy hat and all.

If guns give dex to damage do they really still need to always hit touch ac?

I was thinking that they get dex to damage by default but maybe don't hit touch aC since i always thought that was dumb

Maybe ignore the armor bonus to AC or is that too complex idkkdafk
ga

>>49866245

Schierke pls go.

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>>49866283
I don't know who that is.

For Urgathoa's Hunger, do you only count weapon damage for the temp hit points? Do you count your modifiers? Do you count extra damage from Vital Strike?

Hey /pfg/, I have a few rules questions about the Synergist witch archetype.

Can you access the familiar's normal abilities while merged, like speak with animals of it's kind and such? If your familiar has spell like or supernatural abilities, such as from getting an Improved Familiar, can you use those? Can you even take Improved Familiar with synergist? What about a familiar archetype?

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>>49866295

Pint-sized witch in Berserk.

>>49866290
Pretty damn close!

>>49865851
I though rapid reload reduced the reload time for hand-crossbows to a free action?

>>49866327
It's the total damage you do. For maximum effect, have a peasant set up to be CdG'd

>>49866381
It does, but you still need 2 hands to reload

>>49866381
It's a free action but it still takes a hand to do it, which is no good when both hands have crossbows in them. A lot of build get around it with extra hands from Alchemist or prehensile hair from White-Haired Witch. I'm curious if there's a less awkward way around it.

>>49866408
if you take the bolt ace archetype it can become NOT AN ACTION

>>49866429
Gotta be level 11 for that.

>>49866429
At 11th level. It'd be nice to do it before being 2/3 through a AP

>>49866408
>>49866408
Would the Lightning Swap feat count for this?

>Benefit(s): You may draw or put away a weapon as a free action. You cannot make more weapon swaps per round than your Dexterity modifier.

This effectively means you can put away one handcrossbow as a free action, reload, draw, put away and reload.

>>49866408
that's actually pretty great with PoW then, huh? Something like a Divine Crusader with the Black Seraph feat that makes shaken opponents vulnerable to Profane damage. Swift for Urgathoa's Hunger, Switch Silver Crane Damage to Profane, deal something like 12d6+mods, heal as much, and get temp hit points. That could be pretty nifty.

>>49866464
You get fucking screwed over badly once you can do more than one attack per round.

>>49866464
Yeah, that or Mixed Combat but those are both 3pp. A 1pp option is Gun Twirling, but that has a bunch of pre-reqs

>>49866504
What? You can make a number of swaps equal to your dex modifier, which should be sky high

>>49866425

Might be able to talk your GM into it if you're a tiefling with a prehensile tail.

>>49866529
With archery feats that grant extra attacks?

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Tell me about your upcoming sessions! Anything exciting?

>>49866616
Lewd fun times.

>>49866616
Players are about to assault the Not!Tibetan monastery fortress of a Wizard crime lord they tried to assassinate.

They let him have a week to prepare. This will be a bad session.

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>>49866640

Explain please!

>>49865056
>>49865084
They seem good at level 1, but the full round actions needed to reload the magazine after a couple of shots mean that by level 6 it starts to have trouble due to multiple attacks. If you can fire twice a round, you get one shot on your third round because there were only 5 bolts, and then you need full actions to load a new one - not THIS round unfortunately! Forget firing six shots at high levels; you'd get your five, spend the next turn reloading instead of shooting, then get just five again!

Meanwhile you could've sped up the loading (since you need rapid reload anyways) of a normal type crossbow faster. There's no longer any reloading to do (although you still provoke, even though you don't provoke pulling out, nocking and drawing a new arrow, FUCK YOU 3.X DEVELOPERS, GET RAPED BY A FIRE AND FUCKING DIE) with a light from just rapid reload for example, and that's before bolt-ace stuff.

>>49865354
Apparently he's huggable.

>>49866674
When the session left off four PCs were teleported into a clothes-dissolving lava lamp.

>>49864374
is a character Dual wielding 2h Great swords Viable?

how would i go about it?

>>49866754

There's nothing lewd about being naked around your mates! Anyone who's had a beach or hot springs session would know that!

>>49866793
its not don't try

>>49866798
They're also holding hands

>>49866667
Giving a wizard even 2 rounds to prepare is bad news.

That is going to be a slaughter.

>>49866818

That's... still not lewd, you only cross that line if ogling (intentional or otherwise) occurs.

What's the party look like?

Seriously where is more Curse of the Crimson Throne?!

>>49865851
You could ask him if he'd let Gun Twirling work for crossbows.

>>49866667
>THEY GAVE A WIZARD A WEEK TO PREPARE

Oh.

So this is when they all die, right?

>>49866803
welp the dream is dead

>>49866861
you're welcome

>>49866845
The ones in the lamp are a Henshin Hero, Fey Adept, Ravenlord Harbinger, and URogue, all female. Outside of them there's a paladin who's currently busy enjoying a Dryad and an Alchemist who's fighting with the raven for choice snacks while watching.

Also not only is there an audience, the lava lamp itself is a lewd ooze

>>49866277
It's because doesn't understand guns vs crossbows vs armor and how it played out IRL, so how would they understand how it plays out in a fictional setting?

>>49866895
>Outside of them there's a paladin who's currently busy enjoying a Dryad

Well you know, adventuring is hard work. Sometimes you just need to stop and smell the roses.

>>49866916
I know i'm doing a rewrite and shit

i'm just trying to fix things dude.

>>49866793
It's viable with DSP.

>>49866948
DSP?

>>49866932
Hey, I don't blame him

>>49866731
If I recall correctly, Crossbow Mastery straight up replaces several of the Bolt-Aces class features.

Even without taking the Bolt-Ace into consideration, it seems overpowered.

What CR encounter do you give a party of five level one PCs in order to equal the difficulty of a particular encounter with only four level one PCs? Throwing a CR 1 encounter at five players will be significantly less difficult than if there were only four players.

>>49866975
>crossbow things
>overpowered

no

>>49866972

Which PC are you?

>>49866966
Dreamscarred Press.

>>49866993
The Alchemist

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>>49865354
His blood.

>>49866841
>>49866852
Basically. They decided running a restaurant was more important than making sure the wizard was dead.

>>49865354
His teeth. They have 7 recorded kills and that number only seems to be growing.

>>49866986
Given that it reduces the reload for every crossbow to free it undermines several of the Bolt-Aces abilities. There's no reason not to take it if you're using crossbows, which means several of >>49865851 abilities are worthless.

>>49867287
that doesn't make it overpowered

Obsidian are making a Pathfinder video game and put out a survey to gauge what people actually want in it.
>>>/v/355220586

Dear god I hope it's moddable so psionics can get put in.

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>>49867398

>mrw someone mods Path of War in

HELLO!!!! EARTH TO MORONS! WHERE CAN I FIND MORE CURSE OF THE CRIMSON THRONE!!???!!!

>>49867320
I suppose that was the wrong word, but it's like if there was a feat you could take as early as level six that gave you a superior Channel energy.

There's no reason not to take it as a Cleric, it undermines several of your powers and other classes can muscle in on your role.

>>49867498
but crossbows are garbage anyways

>>49866975
Are you familiar with the term "tax feat"?

YES, the feat does a lot. It does more than most feats, and some would argue most feats should instead be like this, OR that it should not do so much.

HOWEVER:

It does so much partially in compensation (you're shooting so much of your build off that you're still in the red, truth be told) for the fact that what it's upgraded was purposefully designed as complete trash, and is basically not even really viable yet even with said feat.

It's like putting a brand new mid-quality engine into your old clunker; yes that's a lot more than you should put in there, but even with it your car remains a pile of shit, and without it it was unacceptable levels of total shit.

>>49867479

HEY POINTDEXTER, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE TOILET AND SHUT UP, OR WE'RE TAKING YOUR POCKET PROTECTOR NEXT.

>>49867498
All that tells you is the bolt-ace is underpowered, not that the feat is overpowered.

It's not
>this feat can cover several class abilities of this archetype
but rather
>this archetype is such crap that several of its abilities are covered by a feat that already existed long before.

>>49867479
http://paizo.com/products/btpy9kg6/discuss?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-Curse-of-the-Crimson-Throne-Hardcover

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>>49866667
tfw my players tried to assassinate a powerful wizard today
tfw they let him escape
tfw they said, well, lets sleep a night and then try to assault his fortress tomorrow morning
tfw the rogue keeps telling them it is a bad idea and they refuse to listen
pic related is my face when thinking about next session

>>49865851

Get Rapid Reload, Quick Draw and Mixed Combat: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/feats/mixed-combat-combat

You can put a hand crossbow away, load the one you have in your hand, put the second one away, and pull out the first. Load the first, then pull out the second. All as free actions!

>>49866793

It's possible, just take the Stupendous Strength feat from Dreamscarred Press. I'm sure someone has pasted it somewhere around here.

Also take Powerful Two-Weapon Fighting, from Path of War 2.

Hmm, a lot of talk of shitty crossbows in this thread.

Here's a question /pfg/, what would you change to make them not shitty?

>>49867642
attack touch ac

>>49867642
they need stat to damage

>>49867642
Some actual unique effect. Don't give them a stat to damage, it's still just badbows if you do that when different weapons styles should actually play differently.

>>49867642
Martial Proficiency = automatic rapid reload
Action economy is really what kills crossbows

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>>49865354

He has a nice smile on the side of his face that wasn't horribly scarred by witchfire.

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Tell me /pfg/, what class and/or class options would be best for being able to master life's many doors?

>>49867642
Ability to flank. That's all.

Don't do anything to remove their weaknesses or any other distinguishing factors, you want them to be different.

>>49867642
Historically, crossbows make up for their poor rate of fire with their ridiculous power.

Higher damage die, higher crit multipliers, targeting touch AC, all potential paths.

Bows are all about putting as many shots down as you can, with crossbows you should only need one.

>>49867553

I'd like to see you and your imaginary friends try, you obsequious cuddlefish.

>>49867587

I'm aware of that but I thought this is where you get free stuff

>>49867910
well that the only place you can get it to our knowledge

>>49867913

That may be but I assumed some of you jokers had money and resources. Otherwise why the fuck are we here?!

>>49867922
We're here to homebrew and talk about DSP and Spheres of Power

>>49867935
pretty much. Enjoying typing up shit for Navaros still

Need to work on guns more. I'm actually really starting to feel that maybe they just shouldn't target touch AC, but maybe i'll tone it down

How about if guns ignored the armor bonus of mundane armor, magical armor (being the supposedly rare and powerful piece of equipment it is) Would be able to deal with it.

>>49867935

Then why is this a Pathfinder thread? Cause honestly, homebrew, DPS and Sphere shit is pretty much unimportant. If it was important, you'd all have something else to take it to wouldn't you?

>>49867975
its important to us and it relates to Pathfinder?

Is anyone else miffed about the Rubato getting only 3 disciplines to choose from when every other class gets at least five? Is there a reason for this?

What is the easiest way to bully you nerds?

>>49867989
3rd party content is not pathfinder

>>49868004
Reminding us that no king rules forever, only death is eternal, and one without the strength to lift a feather will never grow stronger.

>>49868009
3rd party content for pathfinder is in fact, pathfinder.

>>49867773
Bows have a x3 multiplier compared to the crossbows 19/x2 and the crossbows are only one damage die higher than their bow counterparts.

Damage up would put the Heavy at the rarely used d12 and the light at a d10. A bit more potential, sure, but not enough to balance against the rate of fire.

Increasing the threat range to 18/x2 would make crits quite a bit more common, but holy shit Improved Critical would be needed at that point (imagine a 15-20 threat range).

Increasing the multiplier to x3 could potentially work out well. As could adding DEX to damage.

Any one of these on their own wouldn't counter the crossbows poor rate of fire, but perhaps some combination could work.

Maybe not all at once though, I don't know how I'd feel about this:
>Crossbow, Heavy 1d12+Dex 18-20/x3 120ft

Fire that with Vital Strike and you're doing some nasty single hit damage.

>>49867989

Who is us? That's what I'd like to know. Because it seems like it's the SAME DAMN PEOPLE every single goddamn time. Not ONE of you come up with any remotely interesting or original. It's just "Oohh look at my Warder! His DPS is off the charts!" or "Look at my Zwi-hand! He can totally tank!"

I feel like I'm back at Blizzard, not on a Pathfinder forum.

>>49868009

THIS!!! THIS right here!!!! That's what I'm saying!

>>49868019

Maybe in your warped version of reality...

>>49868031
Depressed homebrewer, Forrest, the Navaros guy, plenty of other people talk about homebrewing shit.

Also Blizzard forums would never talk about 3rd party content

>>49868022
High single hit damage is good at getting past DR and that got me thinking; what if instead of all this Touch AC talk it straight up lowered the targets DR by a certain value? Maybe only within the first range increment?

Bows would still be useful for shooting a bunch of times while Crossbows would be useful for those pesky DR guarded monsters.

>>49868038

No all I see is the same DAMN People. It's never anything BUT them. Some faceless fucks that think homebrew shit is some how going to save them from their boring, uninspired crappy lives.

BULL.

It doesn't matter WHAT Blizzard forums support. What matters is I hear the SAME DAMN SHIT THERE that I do here. HOW IS THAT BETTER?!

>>49868054
Could be interesting, but the Clustered Shot feat makes DR meaningless

>>49868058
We're having fun, anon.

>>49868058
Maybe they just enjoy homebrewing? Who are you to judge faggot.

Nobody asked you to be here, if you don't like it, leave, or create interesting discussion, don't shit on the only people creating OC. Create some of your own.

Stop being a fucking whiner and contribute, or leave.

>>49868058
Why are you whining and acting like a petulant child instead of doing something useful?

>>49868068
attacking touch AC all the time is a really bad mechanic though, it invalidates enemies really hard and makes it so they basically never miss.

Like I get why gunslingers can frustrate some GMs in their current state

>>49864609
I'd also be interested in seeing the Legendary Vigilante material. Anyone got it?

>>49868070

Really? Cause it seems to me all of you are just WASTING goddamn time talking about useless crap like DPS, or hell, which fictional character you want to screw. So how is THAT improving ANYTHING remotely related to Pathfinder? Serious!

>>49868089
Who am I? Who the hell are you guys?! I came
here HOPING to see conversations about...I dunno, actual roleplaying! Not some whiny ass bitches talking like this WoW shits. Why don't YOU guys contribute some fucking ass content. Maybe then I'll stop griping.

>>49868073

Why are the lot of you talking like a bunch of hormonally challenged, emotional unstable bunch of 12 year old boys that couldn't find their own dick much less figure out how to be a real decent person?!

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>>49868135
>accusing us of being unable to figure out how to be decent people

>while you yell at us for having fun the wrong way and shit on content creators because... ???

Yeah ok dude

>>49868135
>Cause it seems to me all of you are just WASTING goddamn time talking
You mean like... all of fucking 4chan?

>>49868098
At least for them you're generally looking at short range increments.

Targeting Touch AC from 120ft away is ridiculous.

>>49868145

What Content?! Seriously other than how much you all want to WAFU or whatever with some imaginary dicks you think you have. I have yet to see an IOTA of real content other than some fan fictions you all rant about. So yeah if I accuse you all of being indecent or even less than incompetent, it's not because I have no goddamn reason. So far I've only shit the the lot that has had ZERO impact on this game you all CLAIM to love or at least enjoy. Mostly I see you all bitch that James Jacobs and the rest don't respect you. I ask you: WHY THE HELL SHOULD THEY?!

>>49868152

Maybe it's time for 4chan to die. Maybe you all need to go somewhere else cause it's certainly NOT been about discussions that are in ANY way conducive to decent gaming. Hell NO ONE has talked gaming theory beyond "Well this is crap because it doesn't work the way I like it." Or some other crap.

>>49868173
Low quality bait, here's your (You).

>>49868173
>Maybe it's time for 4chan to die
Oh god it's way too late for that. Something needs to come around and re-kill 4chan over and over until it stays down and agrees to be dead. And we all know how much 4chan likes agreeing to things.

>>49868098
Honestly the easiest way to fix the Bow/Crossbow/Gun problem is to make them all the same. Move action to reload, or free action with rapid reload. Each gets dex-to-damage. Shortbow/light-crossbow/pistol do 1d6 damage, longbow/heavy/musket do 1d8. Done

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>>49868168
>I have yet to see an IOTA of real content

There are 3 playtests for content written by /pfg/ regulars in the OP. Learn to fucking reading.

>>49868159
Like you have to design around it so hard

Thats why I want to remove it from guns for Navaros so things like Dragons are still threatening, i'm just trying to make it work still

I'm protecting them from a lot of action economy (though there is a small tax for some), and giving them dex to damage (but they require str ratings to use effectively), at the same time i want to present how they hurt traditional armor so its hard.

>>49868168
? DSP is probably the best known 3rd party content creator and gets used in a lot of games of pathfinder.

Who the fuck is James Jacobs and why should I care.

Why are you here? You don't seem to enjoy it. We don't delude ourself. My Navaros content will probably never be used outside of the people who show up to /pfg/, and I don't really care. Its a personal project i'm doing for fun, because I think having a cool old west setting for pathfinder

>>49868173
But 4chan is great because its for wasting time talking about bullshit

Like it feels like you just don't understand this site dude.

Why are you here.

>>49868184
Nah. I like the idea of them being different. They represent quite different things in history and they should all function differently.

>>49868182

My bait is fine. It's the rest of you that are chum.

>>49868183

I keep hoping...

>>49868191

And of those how many actually talk about, I dunno, what mechanics work best in a table top setting when you have say, only two players?
Or if you're living in a rural state where gaming isn't an approved activity? How do you resolve those issues?

>>49868210
There really isn't a way to solve those two issues with any mechanics, in any system. A game cannot solve the circumstances of your existence, but it can provide an escape from them in your mind.

>>49868210
We'd rather talk about things we actually care about than solve your personal issues anon

if you can't find players you should try being a nicer person so you don't scare people off

>>49868210
You realize those are questions suited for /tg/ at large, not a general for a specific RPG right? Are you actually this retarded?

>>49868204
>Nah. I like the idea of them being different. They represent quite different things in history and they should all function differently.
I agree, that's why I said easiest not best. The problem is that balancing 3 different combat weapon styles is really hard, as evident by there not being a solution by now.

>>49868204

DSP?! Best known?! Says who? I've gamed all of the East Coast. You know who most people talk about? NOT DSP. Not even once. I dunno what the fuck you're smoking but DSP hasn't even cracked the top 10 in most cases. Maybe in your mind the same is true about how ranking college football works then. If so I suggest you start contacting ESPN.

As for who the fuck is James Jacobs, he's the FUCKING guy that has had a hand in this since the fucking BEGINNING. Even before Pathfinder was a pipe dream.

As for why I'm here, why are ANY of us here?! Why not ask yourself "Why is Facebook here?" or "Snap chat here" or a dozen others. It seems to me if anything needs justifying, it's the lot of you.

You're probably right I don't understand 4chan. Because I guess I remember when messageboards had actually FUCKING CONTENT. Not this...shit.

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>>49868210
>And of those how many actually talk about, some arbitrary problem I pulled out of my ass.

People make the content they want to make. Don't like it or want something different? Make your own content.

>>49868238
I think the thing you have to accept first is that you'll never really make them equal, but they should all be at least decent. Part of the frustration around crossbows is not that they're worse than bows, its that they're so much worse than bows they're almost unusable.

>>49868249
what 3rd party content creators have you heard people talk about

Also

>I remember when messageboards had fucking content

Lol

Ok, confirmed for newfag.

Can we please ignore the troll people? The thread is ruined enough as it is.

>>49868222

Well it might not solve them but it seems to me you all aren't doing much to solve things on your own now are you?

>>49868236

I'd rather you go jump in a vat of untested opiod
vats but I guess we're both going to have to be disappointed then huh? Also, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO TELL me who is and isn't nice?!
You don't fucking know me!

>>49868226

I'm beginning to realize that coming to threads like this pointless when it has morons like you all. Yes.

>>49868273
We don't want to solve problems, we just want to talk about waifus and homebrew our shitty content.

And we're happy that way

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>>49868210
Go away. We were finally starting to rise in quality with kitsune poster disappearing, but now you're here to shit up the thread. Should we call you Virt or buildposter?

Everyone else, have an old man.

>>49868159
What if it's only Touch against Light Armor?

>>49868250

I have! I do! But some times I like to see if someone else comes up with something else. So far, the only useful thing I've learned here is that the internet and 4chan is filled with morons.

>>49868264

Since you asked, Rogue Genius for one, Wayward Rogues is another. Legendary Games, Playground games is also another.

FUCK You about newfag since I've been here since before 4chan had a domain! :p

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Here we go again.

>>49868286
Nah, he's not as bad as Buildposter. Buildposter was a unique kind of cancer that couldn't do math.

>>49868293
Now thats some absolute bullshit

No one whose been around 4chan for more than a week would ever think it had anything like 'new content' or 'OC'

>>49868286
Wow. I guess you showed me! Woopoo Bad ass over here with his "leave me the fuck alone"

>>49868282

Call me Metal. Call me Vordomort. Hell call me Donald J FUCKING Trump. I don't care. It's pretty damn obvious you all don't.

You know as bad as this guy is he's at least not as bad as Clawshrimpy on /m/

now thats a shitposter.

>>49868310
Did you just have a seizure?

>>49868310
I shall call you Sir Faggotstien the Salted.

>>49868305

I'm just getting started.

>>49868306
Honestly don't care who or what Build poster is.

And yes I was. You think the internet was always here? Where was in 1970? Or 1968 for that matter? Was it here? Cause if it was, I'd love to have seen that...

>>49868331
Whatever you say Sir Faggotstein the Salted.

>>49868293
Man, I've... heard of like ONE of those.
... oh, right, the boring-ass god class guys. Haaah yeah no. Maybe this ain't the place for you if you're not up for Spheres or DSP, hm?

Honestly I liked the kitsuneposters. Their aggressive optimism was a wonderful form of trolling.

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Out of curiosity, has anyone using the Pathfinder setting for their own game ever left Golarion?

How did it go?

>>49868320

Only if by seizure you mean I wished you all dead in my mind...then yes.

>>49868328

Call me Fucking Ozzy Osbourne muther. I don't care.

>>49868347
We've got it Sir Faggotstein the Salted. You're edgy.

>>49868331
Sir faggotstien the salted, the fortunate truth is that you don't own 4chan or /pfg/, so you're pretty much just beating your chest and throwing leaves everywhere.

Really keep this up though, I got a tram ride for the next thirty or so, and I'm pretty amused by this.

>>49868338

Yeah I guess I'm not up for boring ass more WoW stuff that I can't stand because I spent 2003 through 2006 playing Warcraft and figuring out Blizzard was shitting on my bank account. So yeah. Go figure.

>>49868337

Call me God-king Aspect of Immortality Sir whatever you want.

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>>49868342
>I will never get to run the "you've been abducted by aliens and placed in stasis" campaign
>I will never get to watch the players take over the ship and try to figure out how to run it
>I will never take them from planet to planet on the long journey home

>I will never be a good enough GM to run it properly

>>49868369
We're calling you Sir Faggonstein the Salted.

Thats what we're calling you.

>>49868369
You should just tripfag, oh Salted one. Own that shit.

>>49868352

Hardly edgy. Just VERY PISSED OFF!

>>49868368

I might not OWN this place but I plan on BURNING THIS MUTHER TO THE GROUND.

Mostly because I've decided it's what you idiots deserve.

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>>49868377

Not with that attitude, anon!

>>49868396
You can try, but you're pissing into the wind here Sir Faggotstein the Salted.

>>49868396
I find your pitiful attempt at a temper tantrum profoundly tedious, and have heard sounder, more motivated ranting issue forth from a hamster's maw.

>>49868381

Whatever the fuck you want. I just know your mom calls me God.

>>49868388

You should go taking running jump off a tall elevated parking structure.

>>49868396
By, uh, angrily posting? On the internet?
... on 4chan.
This isn't just pissing into the wind, this is pissing into a glorious piss waterfall.

>>49868414
I'm sure she does Sir Faggonstein the Salted.

>>49868396
>Burning to the ground

Looks more like throwing a tantrum.

Now, Sir Faggotstein the Salted, do you prefer table salt or sea salt?

>>49868413
I'm finding it mildly entertaining

He's been here the past few nights, we've been needing a new shitposter to shit the thread up, it was getting to productive in here.

>>49868413

And what, you're all hot shit because you're like "look at me! I'm edgy cause I can make up names!" Fuck off.

>>49868407

Well excuse me for not going Shakespearan insults or even Klingon insults then. I guess it's just not within me to get up to your "high standards" because I feel like being angry more than meeting some dipwad's idea of 'intellectual conversation"

>>49868414
A "your mom" joke. Is this the epitome of your wit? Is this truly the pinnacle of your capacity for wordplay - the sort of "insult" seen in the schoolyard among those who cannot yet dress themselves?

Surely you are capable of more provocative jests? Surely you have no need to resort to such a tired, overwrought form of japery?

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>>49868416

Now there's a mental image.

>>49868440
come on now Sir Faggonstein the Salted. Show us what you're really capable of. Surely you can do more.

>>49868293
>I have! I do!

Really? Do you have complete rules for playing Pathfinder as a solitaire game? Or perhaps how to play an RPG when you have no access to dice, paper, or other human beings because you're locked in solitary confinement awaiting execution?

If you haven't solved these issues, then you're not making *real* content.

>>49868453
DARE YOU ENTER MY MAGICAL REALM?

>>49868416
Damn right you mewling little maggot faced douchewad.

>>49868422

I prefer you die in a horrible agonizing death probably involving fire and maybe salt water on the wounds.

>>49868433

Fuck off.

Rather than arguing about who is and isn't notable in the 3rd party community, anyone want to look over anything done by someone who's DEFINITELY not notable? >>49865682

Yeah, I'm blatantly trying to get attention for my homebrew because I've been on a bit of a homebrew kick. Anyone have anything that they'd particularly like (That's in theme for pathfinder) that Pathfinder doesn't handle too well corrently? I'm bored and might throw something else together.

>>49868440
And lo, you have fallen prey to the most novice of errors! The assumption that all posters designated as "anonymous" are the same poster is erroneous in the highest degree. The act that you are unable to grasp this, or to differentiate by the differences in post inflection, indicate that you have not expended even the slightest effort towards the prospect of arguing in good faith.

Notably, this is primarily why the arguments made against you are not in good faith - a non-argument breeds a non-argument. Unless you would like to imply some salacious or scandalous detail concerning my parentage and/or pedigree?

>>49868471
thats ok i do that too

>>49868293

>I have! I do!

Show us then, Sir Faggotstien the Salted.

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Please someone screen cap this. I want to forever have the file of some dude being so ass blasted that we didn't have a book he raged into being named Sir Faggotstein the Salted.

>>49868441

Okay fine. Here it is: Go die in a fire. There.

>>49868455

I have played Pathfinder as a card game plenty of times. I didn't even have to do it myself. Also I can play RPGs by myself because honestly some times humans suck. So...yeah I've made content.

>>49868454

Fine: Go jump off a hill, break your leg in the forest and have man eating bears chase you.

>>49868507
Show us your content then Sir Faggonstein the Salted

You can even create your own studio, Faggotstein Salt Studios

>>49868471

>Love and Charm-based paladin archetype

That sounds like it could be really dumb, or really fun.

>>49868522
i think it sounds cute and silly

>>49868471
Well, I've had interest for some time in a supplement designed to play a "meanwhile" sort of campaign, starring an adventuring party's Familiars, Mounts and Animal Companions as they figure out what to do during their masters' downtime.

But we all know that'd take skill most of us don't have. Maybe you've got a chance? Or maybe not. I don't really know.

>>49868474

Is that you Nightfall? Cause it sure sounds like you...

>>49868483

Exactly what is it you want me to show? How to not be a waste of semen? Or maybe how I made games that even dogs could enjoy.

>>49868528
something something your mom didn't waste any of my semen something something

>>49868528
Your games Sir Faggotstein. Show us them.

>>49868516

If I was making a studio for gaming I'd call it Losers Die slowly Inc. Or better yet, Morons get eaten by dragons.

>>49868544
So you don't have any content to show us

>>49868533

So far I'd say my mom is dead so good job raping her corpse, you perverted piece of shit. Also I'm informing the FBI.

>>49868535

I don't have them online dipwad. If I did I wouldn't need to be here.

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For anyone who's interested, Psionics Augmented: Kineticists has been added to the guide, here's a link to the 3p addendum:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YEdiedVaP8jpkiF4zYAM9t4CAyh8WnvsSxIrfxCszvM/edit#bookmark=id.1ernd427m0h0

For the most part, I really liked the Avant Guard, I'm not a fan of gambler even if it is mechanically solid, and really enjoyed the feats.

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do any of you guys ever make characters based off of pictures?

>>49868528
You'd think that, but no. Mostly I was trying to see how far I could go on before you admitted that you didn't even understand what I was /saying/, let alone anything else.

So there goes that idea.

>>49868559
Why not if your content is so much better than everyone elses you should get it online and show us all up.

Show us how its done Senpai

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>>49868522

If I did it right, it's both!

>>49868527

Interesting...though the concern there is that animal companions/familiars and such are really not designed to be on par with each other (A Paladin's Mount is a potent force on it's own, a familiar isn't). So I'd need to ponder exactly how to get them on a similar level.

>>49868547

Unless you have a magic way to turn hand written notes into actual printed pages, no. I don't. Also I don't own any fancy stuff like a camera, a phone or anything that could REMOTELY transcribe my notes.

>>49868471

I like the Fusilier!

Sorry, can't say that I'm very good when it comes to designing classes and balance, but the concept is interesting.

That being said, the strikes that Riven Hourglass gets are all melee range only. Considering that the class seems like it's supposed to be able to use guns well, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to give it a class feature that will give it the ability to make those Riven Hourglass strikes at range (in addition to anything other discipline that uses melee only strikes)?

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>>49868568
absolutely.

this is my current goal

>>49868566
Sorry Ehnjolly, you might want to try later. Right now it's all about Sir Faggotstein the Salted.

>>49868576
>I DON'T OWN A PHONE OR A CAMERA

>fancy

These are some shit lies. Everyone owns a cell phone. Ever cell phone comes with a camera. I have a literally 10 year old Nokia brick and it has a camera.

>>49868571

You still sound like Nightfall me.


>>49868572

Why not? Because not everyone posts their fucking lives on the internet you dumb ass! If I could get it online I would. Plus I don't feel like typing out 6,000 pages of notes.

>>49868576
You could just type them up on the computer. Yu know, the computer you're using. That surely has word processing software, if it's capable of connecting to the internet.

Except you can't, because you're lying, you don't have any notes, and you had to pick at the low-hanging fruit of the stereotypical neckbeard to even have a chance of feeling better about your ephemeral existence.

And you're failing at that.

>>49868576
You don't have notepad and a keyboard?

Are you tapping out your shitposts in morse code or transmitting them via crystal radio?

>>49868606

Go to the library and use their scanner or something retard

Oh wait you can't because the notes don't exist.

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Hey guys what -

> Pic related

>>49868003
The maneuver-granting archetypes for the 1pp classes generally only give three, my friend.

>>49868580
That is one hell of a noxious fart.

>>49868606
>6000 pages

You must write really big.

>>49868597

I don't own a phone because I don't want people CALLING me all the time. Or butt dialing me. So this makes my life easier. The only phone I have is a land line one and THAT isn't given out.

Also Ehnjolly should just go work for Wayward Rogues. They'd treat him better.

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>>49868618
Its not a fart she just has a magical dragon head coming out of her ass.

>>49868606
Six thousand pages?

Now ain't that hyperbole and a half.

>>49868580
As for you I'm pretty sure anyone good at unarmed strikes can do that, the rest would be flavor. Of course I don't see how any GM outside an ERP campaign would be okay with that flavor, but hey.

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>>49868580

...Well, I don't understand your plan, but I support it anyway. Good luck and Godspeed.

>>49868626
>I don't have a phone because i don't want people calling me all the time

As if anyone would ever call your miserable ass.

You're lying. Its really obvious, and its really sad dude.

>>49868566
>Stand Back

>It's not Get Back anymore and the reference is gone

Noooooo

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>>49868626
Who's your favorite monstergirl, Sir Faggotstein the Salted?

>>49868528
Nightfall doesn't talk that much.

>>49868617
Don't worry, you just had poor timing.

>>49868634
But how can i make a magical dragon come out of my ass

>>49868626
Because having a mobile phone lets any rando call you, as opposed to a landline which is secured by a secret private code!

Oh wait.

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>>49868568
yes

>>49868626
Someone's not treating me right? That's news to me. I've done some stuff for Wayward recently actually, even if I'm currently working on a new 'secret' project that isn't a secret to anyone.

>>49868625

I never said it was legible. But yes it's a lot.

>>49868613

It's past 3 am moron. What library is open at 3 am?! Also my local library doesn't have a scanner because I don't LIVE in a FUCKING CITY.

>>49868611

No i have that but a) it's too much fucking work and b) if you want to see them I'd suggest coming here then and typing them. Only you won't.

>>49868610

I shave regularly thank you. Also if any one of you morons is a sterotype, it's mostly you and your lame attempts at being smart.

As I said, I don't feel like typing 6,000 pages.

>>49867722
That doesn't fucking save them in the least.

>>49868054
You know what else gets past DR? The significantly higher static damage bows get over crossbows. And that's just for DR that isn't outright negated; there's more arrows for that too.

If you want high single shot damage, then crossbows need static stat damage bonus based on the strength they are designed to be pulled by:

>Crossbows are 18-20/x2
>Crossbows are built to specific strength bonuses AND loading mechanisms. You may not load (but may fire) a crossbow with a strength bonus higher than your own.

>Rapid Reload reduces the loading mechanism time by one step: If this would reduce the action to 'free' or past 'free' (such as a light repeater), the weapon instead gains the Semi-Automatic property.
>Vital Strike applies to the attribute bonus to damage at a 50% rate (so 1.5 bonus with VS, x2 with IVS, x2.5 static at GVS). This stacks with the mythic vital strike ability.

>No loading mechanism: Crossbows of strength bonus equal to yours or lower need no reloading action, just like a bow (so no provoke, fuck you paizo for that, so crossbows get it too now)

>Lever: Lowers the effective strength bonus of the crossbow by 2 for purposes of who can reload it. Base action is a Move.

>Stirrup+Belthook or light crank: Lowers the effective strength bonus of the crossbow by 4 for purposes of who can reload it. Base action is Full

>Winch: Lowers the effective strength bonus of the crossbow by 8 for purposes of who can reload it and the size of the crossbow by 1 step for purposes of who is allowed wielding it if it would be advantageous to the wielder. Base reload is two full actions.

So someone with strength 12 could wield a large winched crossbow with strength 20, but gets ONE shot every THREE rounds (or two with rapid reload). A hell of an opener, and can make PCs think twice about town guards surrounding them, but the thing's like 30 pounds with adamant limbs and unwieldy as fuck.

>>49868671
Do it tomorrow then

>I don't live in a fucking city

so lets review

You don't have a camera

You don't have a phone

You don't have a library with a scanner, an ancient piece of technology at this point

I'm willing to bet thats all bullshit, and you simply don't have notes.

You can't prove otherwise. Until you provide proof you are full of shit.

>>49868670

I just thought you'd like a chance to up your game a little, Mister J.

>>49868671
Okay, then type ONE page. Give us that one iota of content you claim nobody here can produce.

>>49868678
thats pretty cool

>>49868654

You obviously don't know Nightfall then.

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>>49868578

Melee strikes at range causes some interesting balance concerns and does make it very tempting for dipping for any ranged guy. Still, worth pondering as the Fusilier is the much less complete of the pair.

Anyway: Design-wise the class is supposed to be a switch-hitter. It's why they get easy access to multiple weapon groups that can get + dex to hit and both ranged and melee manuvers.

The idea was heavily based on WWI Stormtroopers. The poor bastards who were specially trained to take a trench from other poor bastards. It's some of the most nasty, brutal infighting seem with both guns and melee weapons used.

There are a few ranged-specialist classes/archetypes that use guns in pathfinder but almost no switch hitters as that's an area almost entirely covered by bow users. That's why it later on gets the ability to quickly advance to anyone they hurt last turn, allowing them to quickly spring from long range to up in someone's face.

Sorry for the rambling behind design decisions.

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>>49868626
>Also Ehnjolly should just go work for Wayward Rogues
Funny, I've heard Legendary Games and Purple Duck Games have both been doing him well.

Have you perchance heard of the story of the fox and the sour grapes? Whining and bitching because you don't actually know what something nice is like, so you assume that it had to have been bad? It's a good story, could reflect and meditate on it quite well.

>>49868699

At 3 am? No. I think I'm done for now.

>>49868671
Yes, yes, you have six thousand pages of Pathfinder notes, don't live in a city or even a suburb, yet still have a local library (with no scanner) and home internet.

And my name is Alice! Take my hand and we can go to Wonderland together! We'll meet the Mad Hatter and the March Hare and the Cheshire Cat and everything will be frabjous!

>>49868718
Ok, bye. Maybe you can give us some of your glorious god tier content tomorrow Sir Faggotstein the Salted

But you won't cause it doesn't exist.

>>49868715

I've heard the story of you running to a brick wall at full steam with your head down...

>>49868288
"but this mithral counts"
"no it doesn't"

"My kilt makes it medium"
"bullshit he shot you in the face"

and so on.

Rather, why not keep it simple; "accurate" weapons (crossbows and advanced or better firearms, unlike boomsticks and "300 guys in a volley" longbows) get to ignore ONE component, chosen by the player without the GM having to tell him which of the bonuses is better or worse, between Armor AC, Shield AC, or the called shot penalty up to a maximum of the target's size.

So you can either aim to hit where the shield isn't, aim for a gap in the armor, or reduce the penalty for aiming at an eye by an extra -2 because the target's huge, which means it has huge eyevil, rip and tear.

Some one call for an exterminator?

>>49868718
>It's 3 AM
It's currently 10:48 on the West Coast of the USA, and it only goes up to 1:48 on the East Coast. Now, I've taken the liberty to look up the timezones of the world, and it's 2:48 in Halifax, Canada. Unless you live there or in Nova Scotia, you're full of shit because there ISN'T ANYWHERE ELSE that has that sort of timeframe.

So fuck off with your lies.

>>49868741
probably a bit too complicated

>>49868694
Tell me, what has Wayward Rogues done? I've never even heard of them before you mentioned them in this thread.

>>49868342
I keep trying, but the rest of the party is all "oh but our gods" and "but I have family there" and "space pirates are so not cool man".


you think maybe they suspect I wanna nuke the place from orbit when we leave?

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>>49868730
Notice how you keep saying you're "done," but refuse to not get in the last word.

>>49868746
I'd make a comment amounting to "speak of the Devil," but I seem to have been mistaken for Lucifer himself.

>>49868722
>frabjous

You're mixing your stories there. Or did they reference jabberwock? I can't remember.

leave him with the queen of hearts, yeah?

>>49868580
Literally a Steelfist Commando.

You can dip into monk if you wish, the point being was being able to use "any part of your body" as a lethal weapon.

Most /tg/ regulars attribute that to dick-slapping monks. Only japan thought of assplomancers

>>49868766

Aw... I love you too Spoiler.

>>49868709
Don't worry about it. I think think it's an interesting concept, and I'd actually be cool with playing one eventually. I've wanted to play a Harbinger for a while, and I like guns despite the fact that they're inherently shit.

>>49868772
"Through The Looking Glass And What Alice Saw There" is the second book in the Alice series (the first being Alice In Wonderland), and near the beginning of the book is where Alice reads the nonsense heroic epic of "Jabberwocky". So yeah, still same reference.

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>>49868568
Yes but... uh...

>>49868671
>if you want to see them I'd suggest coming here then and typing them. Only you won't.

Wanna bet? Give me your address and I'll drive down there.

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>>49868818

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>>49868761

What do they have against space pirates?

>>49868824

Uhm why is there a elven M on this page?

>>49868797
Righto.

I love that PF jabberwocky have DR/vorpal. And get scared at criticals and shaken by crit threats made by vorpal weapons.

>>49868835
Who the fuck is M?

>>49868824
sup Gareth, you have been pretty incognito for a while. Any new updates or projects?

>>49868841

Since you asked SOO nicely Gareth....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_(comics)

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>>49868761
They know.

Kill them, before they kill you.

Your allies will abandon you.

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>>49868824
You don't understand Gareth, apparently our good friend The Salted here has the greatest content the world has ever seen.

Content better than anything DSP or any company has ever published. I want nay, need, to see this content. I need to see all 6000 pages of it. I owe it to myself, I owe it to the world to share this monumental accomplishment with the good people of /pfg/

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>>49868843
Honestly, and I hate to say this since being here is literally my job, but I kinda just forgot to catch back up to the thread(s). I've been (slowly) doing editing work for something, trying to hammer out the last of Malefex with Jolly, get started up on the Shatterdown Setting Guide, and get some personal stuff done. My apologies for my absence.

>>49868862

Really? Better than Kender that also gain psionic powers and then start to fly on starjammer ships to taunt mind flayers?

>>49868795

Thanks a lot. Yeah, I like guns too...but the issue with making archetypes around them is that they force you to add a heap of stuff to help counteract the shitness.

For the thread in general: How is the wording of this? I don't have much to base it on so I'm iffy on if the wording is fine.

>Madman’s Luck: The fusilier is immune to any damage directly caused by her weapons or actions though not any other effects. They could stand in the blast radius of a bomb she set or have a building they destroyed fall on them and take no damage, though she may be buried under rubble still in the latter case.

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>>49868864
Its cool. We really weren't worried or anything...
b-baka!

>>49868875
Apparently so.

Apparently it's so good, it makes everything ever made before it look like the work of an idiot child without one IOTA of creative thought/

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>>49868853
Hhhuuuuuh.

Only one person in that picture is an elf.

>>49868890

Considering the state of the United States, I'm not 100% sure that person is wrong. But eh. I like my idea better.

>>49868709
>WW1 Storm Troopers
You know that was motherfucking CANADA of all things?

Turns out that even back in WW1 (we know about their insanity in the second war) they'd already started their whole "overtrain everyone to hell" schtick and were murderfucking anything hostile they found.