/swg/ - Deck Plan and Ship Interiors edition

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>>49836455

First for the glory of Emperor Trioculus!

Who is your obscure star wars waifu?

>>49836455
God bless Jango Fett's Bogus Journey

>>49836455
Is it me, or is the Jumpmaster not really dead?

3 Jumpmasters with Mindlink, Torps, EM, Chips, and r4 Agros fits, and they can still hit just as hard. Their Action Economy is insane as well. With PS 3 they can still nuke Y-wings and other PS 1-2 ships out of the sky.

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>wake up
>check FFG
>Scouts nerfed into the ground, Scyk's buffed, other cool shit

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY

>>49836483
I know she's hot shit in X-Wing, but Manaroo was pretty obscure and pretty waifuable.

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First for female commanding officers.

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>>49836483

>>49836602
I'm completely unable to find an image of Manaroo, aside from a shitty piece of chibi fan art.

What the fuck does she look like?

>>49836594
What's the Scout nerf?

>>49836647
Deadeye is now 'Small ship only' meaning they now can't be cheeky cunts and alpha you off the board on the first pass by just taking a focus while outside of range 3 and waiting for some poor bastard to waltz in range.

>>49836682
Ah interesting. I used to include one U-boat in my builds for taking care of annoying large base ships. Switch Deadeye to Vet Instincts and put K3 Security Droid in the crew slot and it's still viable-ish.

>>49836682
Uh, define "alpha" in this context?

>>49836744
Alpha strike is an X-wing term for a ship delivering a big hit early in the game. With the Wolfpack this usually meant twelve red dice with modification on Round 3.

>>49836780
Got it. That sounds pretty nasty.

>>49836794
It's nasty in every tabletop game. Because I think... 90% of tabletop wargames can do it.

>>49836507
>Jango Fett's Bogus Journey
[Spoiler]You mean Bounty Hunter?[/spoiler]

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>>49836406

I don't. If you go out of your way to play cheesy FotM you shouldn't get angry when it invariably gets nerfed. Just like those people who played double phantoms. I can understand the monetary investment to a degree.

>>49836483
Guri. Hot sexy assassin droid. Helps that she's good in X-wing.

>>49836639
She's the blue lady on the Attanni Mindlink card. Her people use mindlinks to communicate thoughts to each other.

>>49836825
Yeah, not all tabletop war games have this particular combo, but most do reward focused fire.

>>49836923
Manaroo is the best waifu. Dengar did well.

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>>49836483
Any random Imperial female officer. I really like the one on the Ruthlessness card art though. She looks so calm and calculating dealing with Rebel scum. Pic related.

>>49836923
Wait, the Attani are blue?

So Attani, Omwati, Chiss, Wroonian, Pantortan.

>>49837024
The species name is Aruzan. Attani refers specifically to the mindlink implants.

>>49837024
Attani isnt the species name, they're Aruzan. The mindlinks are called Attani

>>49837024
>>49837071
>>49837075
I forgot that.

>>49837071
>>49837075
jinx

>>49836828
Yup. I just remember the Game Informer (back when it was fun) review titled it like that. Which I felt was clever and so it always stuck with me.

>>49836594
I've seen this pic like 3 times today and it keeps bugging me that it uses the JM3K instead of delicious blue waifu. >>49836602
gets it.

>>49836631
....Now I think I may need to fit her into one of my games someday.

>>49837071
>Aruzan
>looks similar to 'azure', literally a shade of blue.
>used to refer to blue people.
Fucking Star Wars.

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>>49836483
based Yaddle

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>>49837353
>learn alien's name for humans
>discover it roots from the word for the color pink

>>49837411
Better pink than 'mon-keigh'.

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>>49837231
50,000 hours in MS Paint, the usual speil, etc.

I think it looks better anyway. Blue waifus make everything better. Like getting your completely braindead husband to feel anything again, and get him a real friend in Boba Fett.

I still don't know why "Dengaroo" wasn't titled "love boats." Much better name. She helps her husband kill things dead.

>>49836483
Siri tachi, from the YA books. First literary waifu I ever had

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>>49837496
That was JJK, not YJK right? Are those two sequential or do they run side by side?

>>49837411
>aliens use 'pink' for humans
>despite most humans being a shade of brown
Are the aliens from /pol/?

Could someone break down these new Obstacle rules for me?

>"After a ship’s base or maneuver template overlaps an obstacle, and the overlap is not from executing a maneuver, it suffers an effect based on the type of obstacle:"

Is this a new entry which means that boosting/decloaking into an asteroid means suffering the same effect as maneuvering into an asteroid, or does it replace that effect?

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>>49837554
they're all pink on the inside, anon.

>>49837567
Yes. Before this ruling collision detector didn't give you a stress or make you take damage from asteroids. Now it does, if any part of your template or base touches a asteroid/debris.

>>49837600
Ah. Still, for 0 points what can you expect?

>>49837525
Neither, she was actually from the OJO obi-wan books

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>TIE pilots do it without any protection

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>>49837647
Always use protection, anon.

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Any suggestions on what to use to give the canopy a mirror shine?

>>49837740
paint silver, coat with super shine gloss varnish

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>>49836483
Apart from being a great character she has to have the biggest tits in Star Wars

>>49837886
SPACE
ELF
TITS

>>49837353
Don't tell this anon about the Epicanthix.

...Wait

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Best way to challenge a group of four modded up lightsaber wielding Jedi PC's in FFG combat?
Best way to use inquisitors that aren't just dead in a single combat round?

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>>49837886
And the smallest too! Seriously, how the hell did she mind those monsters so flat?

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>>49837886
Not even close, anon.

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>>49838056
I like the cut of your jib.

>>49837662
Using photon torpedoes on a tie fighter...

For what purpose?

>>49838087
To kill the SHIT out of it.

>>49838038
Gas.
High-vel explosives
Flamethrowers
Mortars
Vehicles
Puzzles

>>49838038
A good hostage situation
It doesn't matter how well they can kill the hostage-takers, if they don't have a real good plan as to how to do it, people die. Make it about thinking and tactics, not fighting skill

>>49838038
Combined arms warfare on the Empire's terms. No large, unsecured objects to use the Force on. The Imps have set up an ambush or fortified position with armor and heavy weapons, sighted the place with artillery, and have CAS on standby. The Inquisitor prefers a sniper rifle as his main weapon. The Imps have also brought landmines, incendiaries, and gas to the party. Every bounty hunter in the sector is on high alert and ready to collect, too.

>>49838038
Enemies that stay at range. Larger minion groups. And if they excessively are using it in a setting where lightsabers are a big no-no, then enemies that bring in heavier weapons to go after them.

If they exclusively use Lightsabers, Parry, maybe knocking up the default by a couple extra ranks; if they use blasters, then Reflect as well. Give the Inquisitor 2 rounds during combat, maybe 3 if the group has incredibly high xp. And then just add a few extra talents. Durable and Center of Being go a long way; Supreme Armor Master is good if you intend for him to be more of a big bad.

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>>49836455
Any suggestions for an oddball x-wing game?

Example: "Hunger games"
>each of 2-6 players gets a single 33-pt ship
>Asteroids clustered in center have upgrades on them
>land on the asteroid = get the upgrade, even if it doesn't work on your ship normally
>Last one alive wins

>>49838658
The Good, The Bad And The Ugly:
You run three 33 (or, if you want it crazier, 50) point lists together, one from each faction. No transfer, any unspent points from a faction are lost

>>49838038
Punish exposure. The players should be hesitant to pull out their lightsabers unless absolutely necessary.

One of my Jedi players handed evidence over to a Moff which got Iziz bombed to dust.

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>>49838658
My local league does one of these during each meeting after the regular game. The idea for a lot of these is to have people make squads that feature pilots or ships not normally used, while still being fairly effective. Favorites have been:

HIJACKING!
>Your own list must have 3 ships
>At the beginning of the match, you and your opponent will each secretly decide on a ship that they want to hijack from your list.
>You reveal at the same time, and then hand over the ship your opponent is hijacking.
>If the ship you hijacked is destroyed before you can completely destroy your opponent’s list, then you lose the match. (because the goal is to get the hijacked ship back to your home base)

Turbolaser Killzone
>The squadrons have found themselves in the middle of a duel between ships of the line.
>Each player creates a 100point squad as standard, but only places 2 obstacles
>At the beginning of the combat phase, each ship is treated as though under attack at range-3 by an unmodified 3-dice attack, and defends as normal.
>After the 6th turn, the player with the most points (per standard rules) still on the table wins.

"You're not actually going IN to the asteroid field !?"
>Each player places 4 obstacles per normal rules
>At the beginning of the activation phase, after all maneuver dials are set, each obstacle has a scatter die rolled for it (in our case, WHFB/40k).
>The obstacle moves in a 1-straight at the direction rolled by the scatter die. On a "hit" result, the obstacle stays in place. If an obstacle goes off the board, it is place at the same position on the opposite board edge
>Normal obstacle effects apply

I've been DMing 5e and now my group wants to do Star Wars. Which system, of the 3, should I use?

>>49839200
FFG

>>49839205
That's Fantasy Flight Games, no? Then there are 3 books: EotE, AoR, and FaD. Are those not different systems?

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>>49838038
Don't be too hard on them for wanting to whip sabres out sometimes and chop things with them, if they worked hard to make their own sabres and all that- let them have a bit of fun every now and then.
In saying that, there are times they should NOT be running around just fucking shit up and you should consider an alternative action: charm, sneaking, negotiation, intimidation, slicing etc that they can pursue as being a good way of conflict resolution- but if they persist in just killing people as the #1 way, chock up some darkside points and don't feel too bad about it.

If you want to go hardball on them, combined arms with all the resources of the Empire at their disposal... aka Inquisitors
A smart opponent will observe and understand the enemy, what they do, how they act and where they run when under pressure. He may simply decide to deploy little drones and bugs to find out as much info as he can, then bring the hammer down with the force of an angry god.

>Maybe he'll bog them down under waves of stormtroopers then smack the fuck out of the whole area with mortars or rocket launchers
>If they've got a hidey hole, blow it up- preferably with them in it
>A sharpshooter to just waste someone when they stick their head up too high
>Kill ALL of their contacts- every single one to the point their mere names will cause poo to come out
>Driveby shooting! :)
>Things that have thick armour and big guns...

But most importantly- chose the ground you will want to fight on, not what 'they' would find convenient or easy.

>>49839222
Same core system, but tailored to different approaches (spacers, military, and Force users respectively). You can (and are encouraged to) mix and match between all three.

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Anyone got any advice?

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!132:-1,-1,21,-1,184,-1:24:-1:;112:98,-1,-1:-1:-1:;121:37,1,126,121:-1:-1:&sn=YO%20HO%20WE%20ARE%20PIRATES

>>49839750
YV doesnt have a rear arc
Drea, blaster turrets, and torpedos on a t wing are all pretty sub par

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>>49839780
Eval can't fire behind? Guess that's why I'm called scumnoob.

>>49839803
it has an auxillary arc to the sides, not behind

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What's the best way to play Manaroo?

>>49839200
Seconding the FFG recommendation. The system is one, the books are all cross-compatible, with the only major difference being each books particular mechanic (Duty for Rebels, Obligation for smugglers/bountyhunters etc, Morality for Force folks).
They are pretty different from DnD, particularly when characters are good without being good in combat, unlike DnD's "parallel" progression (combat progression, and "RP" progression), in this one you have one pool of XP to spend on stuff, and you're still just as valuable if you don't want to play someone who's good (or even decent) at killing stuff.

The most major difference is that the dice aren't just a binary success/fail, but you can also get advantage/threat. So you might roll to attack, get the hit in, BUT [something]. Or you might miss, BUT you forced your opponent to get out of cover (for example).

>>49839750

>Not giving the pilot who has an ability that works with cannons a cannon.

Eval also does not synergize very well with the pup - it has no cannon or aux arc, and on top of that, tail gunner is waste because the aux arcs are in the front.

I don't think your other squaddies work that well together either.

>>49839750
>>49839803
Also, Evals main draw is firing his cannons in his auxilary arc, and you didn't give him a cannon.
Loner Suhlak is a fine cheap combo. Not sure about turrent choice on the Y-wing, you'll pretty much never be able to modify those three dice.

>>49840177

Probably. I'd have preferred if they'd gotten cheaper instead, so I'm not sure what I'd do.

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epic

>>49839750
Here's how i run my Moralo Eval. Perhaps take some inspiration from my list?

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!132:110,-1,178,191,177,-1:-1:-1:;109:-1,36,23,-1,-1,-1:20:-1:;115:-1,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Murder%20Moralo-88-Z

>>49840205
I dunno, a 16 point Scyk now has the same statline as a 15 point TIE/fo, except the Scyk has +1 Pilot Skill and a Torpedo/Missile/Cannon slot. That's pretty good.

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>>49836483
Does she count as obscure?

>>49840298
Oh, they are no doubt worth their point cost now. I just think many fragile ships are more fun than fewer durable ones.

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>>49836483
I''m counting Bindo as my waifu and you can't do anything to stop me.

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>>49836483
Would you class Anja Gallandro as obscure?
She's been my Star Wars waifu even since i read the YJK novels

>>49836631
Grand Moffs, even.

>>49840260
I like it. I mean do you expect they all fly around farting in scrapheaps? Someones gotta police.

One of my HotR lists is Han and Red Ace. What's the better mod for the latter between Autothrusters or IA?

>>49840941
My rule of thumb is "if it costs me more than 30/32 points then it deserves autothrusters"

Alright, what's the best way to field our new Scyk overlords?

I'm thinking a Mindlink squad.

4 Veterans with Mindlink and Mangler Cannons is 96 points, but what do you do with the last few points.

Upgrade a guy to Serissu?

Swap out a Mangler for an HLC?

Replace a guy with Mindlink Palob?

Something else?

Am I insane if I go out tomorrow and buy three more of these guys so I can run a squad?

>>49840298
>>49841088
Serissu helps

>>49841088
Serissu if you want a sudo-biggs. Personally I'd mix up the cannons instead of going full mangler, but that's only because I'm a sucker for control and ions make me happy and glittery inside

>>49841126

There's the option to swap Serissu's cannon for Tractor Beam and a Shield Upgrade which I think I like.

>>49841167
I just played around a little and came up with this.

M3-A Interceptor: · Serissu (20)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
M3-A Interceptor: Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Ion Cannon (3)
M3-A Interceptor: Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
M3-A Interceptor: Tansarii Point Veteran (17)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
-- TOTAL ------- 98/100p. --

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>>49837583

>>49841088
>Am I insane if I go out tomorrow and buy three more of these guys so I can run a squad?
At least wait for the reprint so your Heavy Scyk cards will have the new rule on them.

>>49838038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus

>>49838087
Because if you can't out-turn it, using a missile that CAN does the job just fine.

>>49841205

I don't know if I like the single Ion Cannon, but I love having Serissu with Tractor and an HTC both in the squad.

I think I'll have to get that on the table.

>>49841525
I felt that two ion cannons would take away too much firepower, honestly. You have some spare points to move things around though, so it's up to the testing table now.

>>49840732
No, Anonymous! A star wars race must always do the first thing you see them doing forever! Ergo all yodas are jedi, all twileks are hot sluts or quislings, all hurts are crime lords, all bothans are spies, and all nemoidians are chinese.

>>49841641

I'm more thinking Serissu with Tractor, two Vets with Mangler and a Vet with HLC.

It's a lot of firepower.

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I just got myself a Protectorate Starfighter. I found this token inside, anyone know what's it for?

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>>49841758
You stick it in the plastic dial, so you know which ship is in there.

>>49841791
Huh. Don't think I got any with my previous ships, but maybe I'd just forgotten.

>>49841844
The dials come with the tokens for the ships released before them. Ships released after the dial thing have their own tokens

>>49841758

Dial upgrade kits

Jesus, is there even a point to playing Scouts any more? Bumpmaster is still good, I suppose. I was mostly playing Rebels, but I love the look of the JM5K.

>>49838087
>For what purpose?
Because Fuck You!

>>49842034
I feel the same. There's lots good in the FAQ, namely the scyk becoming viable, but the deadeye nerf just seems so extreme and reactionary.

I'm going to try crack shot/K4, but it feels hollow.

>>49842034
The Deadeye nerf doesn't really hurt Dengaroo. Plus K4 Security Droid and Unhinged together effectively give you Deadeye, in that you can fire your torps with modification without having to use up your action.

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The Scyk hype is real.

Thin my paints

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If Mandalorians are Space Aussies, does that make their M-3A pilots Scyk cunts?

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>>49842434
Aussie 'ere, can confirm.
Thanks for the giggle m8.

/swg/, my players want me to run a campaign where they play Imperials.

I am a terrible person.

I want to make the villains a nucanon style quirky Wendig-tier quipfest rebel cell. Everything people complain Rebels is but worse. The PCs will be sent to a planet to help prepare for a meeting of Moffs but the plucky, quirky Rebels want to make them look foolish with epic pranks.

So far I have the team of:

Emmy Quickrat, a force-sensitive strong independent girl from the streets who has a lightsaber shiv she made from a broken crystal. She also has a cortosis yoyo and a hand-restored jawa blaster that backfires at comedy moments.

Outer Rim Rodgers, a gay crossdressing pilot in a relationship with D4R-L3N3, a genderfluid protocol droid which lapses into Gungan patois at random moments

Weebacca, an orphaned Wookiee kid who wears a backwards baseball cap and has a games console in his armoured gauntlets and can only be understood by Emmy

They crew the Spinmaster 6900, which is a Lambda Shuttle with illegal mods to let it barrel roll

What other terrible ideas can you come up with to spring on people who just want to serve the Empire

>>49837740
Future Wax also works.

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>>49842423
Finally going to buy the second one I had planned on buying a long time ago so that I had a pair. It just got bumped back up the list in terms of priority.

Be nice to continue my Galspan list. Now I just need a Jumpmaster and some Vaksais from Shapeways.

>>49842525
Put them on utterly stupid assignments, like guarding fruit from the rebel menace.

>>49837005
Is the head specifically designed so she has to tilt her head backwards, thus ensuring she's constantly looking down her nose at people?

Also, why is Elsa not a Sith?

>>49842525
I cringed hard

>>49842525
>has a games console
>Not spelled Wiibacca
One job

>>49842525
They are guided on their quest by Serious Straight Captain Man, a tall black guy who sternly delivers orders and is a super serious veteran. He has a dark backstory about how his parents were killed by the Empire making him swear revenge.

>>49842525
Send them on a quest to find their supervisor's passwords, which he has stored on a datapad and misplaced.

>>49842525

You need a clone of Darth Vader on the crew... but a good guy!

And he's seven.

>>49837005
I can't believe Bossk finally caught Daniel Craig.

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>>49842595
Entire family so far, meant to post this one instead.

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>>49842750

I like your colour scheme - apparently it's from a game I've never heard of before?

Get another Scyk in there and you've got all the parts for a Mindlink squad.

This is my current Black Sun lineup, though the StarViper is pretty WIP and the Z-95s want some work to match my style better.

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>>49842891
Tachyon: The Fringe. If you like flight sims, it's worth checking out. Double bonus points given that Bruce Campbell does the voice acting for the protagonist.

I especially like the purple cockpits+jeweling.

>>49842964

Me and a friend were going back and forwards about the cockpits for a long time. I had them in black and he was really trying to talk me out of painting them because he dug the monochromatic look I had going. Eventually I just said "fuck it" and did a couple of different colours to test. Orange was nice, but felt really generic sci-fi, I'm glad I went with purple.

>Bruce Campbell

Well now I have to play it.

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Okay so be honest, With a greater access to resources would the NR still be using T-47s for ground combat? or would they immediately phase them out for something else?

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>>49843242
Probably something else, like the V-Wing. Which is exactly what they did in the EU.

>>49842525
this is fucking awesome

>>49843242
Yes, though the effectiveness of the replacement is wholly dependent on the competence of the writers. An incompetent writer would give us a reskinned T-47 that does exactly the same thing, only thirty years later. A competent writer would probably phase them out completely and have the NR focus funding on more cost-effective things. MBTs, CAS, and heavy artillery are probably all far better at fighting AT-ATs than a dinky speeder with a tow cable.

>>49843500
>are probably all far better at fighting AT-ATs than a dinky speeder with a tow cable.
Well I figured that to combat AT-ATs they may just call in B-Wing strikes while the airspeeders focused more on lighter vehicles and ground troops. though even then that tactic seems like the sort of thing you only do when you are stuck working with what you got.

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What kind of Z-95 is this supposed to be?

>>49842525
You realize, of course, that your players are going to kill them possibly with disruptor rifles?

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>>49843242
>They had the shield up and didn't need aircover/anti-fighter/bomber defence
>They needed delaying tactics for long enough to get everyone out
>Started to go to shit quicker than expected once the walkers blew up the shield generator and allowed more forces in to completely overwhelm the ground defences
>Fall back to original plan of using the starfighters to give them enough cover

Mix of win-loss for both sides, the Empire chased them out of their hole and destroyed a lot of assets, but they didn't completely wipe the rebels out due to some sneaking bastards shooting the fuck out of everything with a massive ion cannon.

>>49843242
The NR consists of such limp wrist fags that they'd probably scrap the entire military.

>>49843242
Those speeders are the Star Wars equivalent of a Toyota truck with a machine gun rigged up in the bed. They might have better solutions by now, but nothing handles the weather and abuse like old reliable.

>>49843546
>while the airspeeders focused more on lighter vehicles and ground troops
At that point, you may as well just have the B-wings do gun runs as well, while fielding IFVs and tanks. Speeders are better off as recon or fast transports for infantry.

>>49839200
If they really like d20, saga is pretty good. Running a game of it for some friends and so far it's been a blast.

>>49843666
>the rebels out due to some sneaking bastards shooting the fuck out of everything with a massive ion cannon.
I think you'll find they got away because they dropped out of hyperspeed too close to the planet

I can't believe ffg made my U-boats into low-t cucked beta NU-boats.
Fucking Disney.

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Cleaned up the mold lines and took some of wips advice to varnishes that would make the ship look better. I think I'm gonna theme my rebel ships with this scheme.

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>>49844721

Also did my first Firespray!

>>49844315
>I think you'll find they got away because they dropped out of hyperspeed too close to the planet
yeah, it's amazing that few fans (at least at my LGS) really understand why Ozzel's action was such a fuckup,

Star Destroyers take time to unload, they are not like WW2 duckboats where you drop a boarding ramp and all the troops and AT-ATs come pouring out, you gotta load shit onto shuttles, fly them to the planet's surface, unload the shuttles, fly back to the star destroyer so you can do it all over again until your entire assault force is on the ground. Vader's plan was to have the star destroyers park themselves just outside sensor range and use the shuttles' hyperdrive to ferry ground forces from the ships to the surface without alerting the Rebels (It would be easy to mistake the shuttles as just more meteors, a frequent occurrence on Hoth). Then when everything's in position THEn strike, the rebels would be caught completely off guard and with their pants down, they would not even have time to put up a real defense. But no, Ozzel dropped into high orbit all but announcing they were comming so while the Empire was scrambling to unload their ground assault force, the Rebels had time to mount a defense while the bulk of their forces and high command bugged-out. So instead of capturing the majority of rebel high command and their elite forces, they got an empty base and a few dozen grunts... Whoop-tee-fucking-do.

>>49844718
what?
what are you talking about?

>>49844757
>bugged-out
I meant to say "bug out" in case there was any confusion.

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So what is suddenly making the Scyk so great?

>>49844973
They're made of plywood instead of particle board now.

>>49844973
The title now grants another hull point. So it's a discount hull upgrade that also adds a cannon slot and doesn't take up your mod slot.

>>49844973

Latest FAQ erattas the Heavy Syck title to also give +1 Hull. This means that for their value, Sycks actually have something resembling proper cost efficiency and can now carry ordinance or cannons and be slightly less fragile as hell. For way less points than the Hull Upgrade.

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>>49844973
An extra hull point goes a long way, and you can fit a Hull Upgrade with it. For 19 points you can have a 1/4 3-Agi ship that can fit a cannon, torpedo or missile.

Which means I can have 5 Scyks with Tractor Beams.

>>49844768
He's clearly having a stroke

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So I mainly play this game with a large group of ten friends who meet throughout the week. One of them wants the 4 tie/fo that I have accumulated from friends core sets. Now one of my friends is building a swarm and wants them and is fully willing to buy some scum ships from our FLGS or Amazon to trade me. What would be a fair trade?

>>49845158
What ships and cards are on the menu, and what sort of lists do you intend to build?

M3-A Interceptor: Cartel Spacer (14)
Hull Upgrade (3)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
M3-A Interceptor: Cartel Spacer (14)
Hull Upgrade (3)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Y-Wing: · Drea Renthal (22)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
· R4-B11 (3)
M3-A Interceptor: Cartel Spacer (14)
"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (2)
Tractor Beam (1)

Since everyone's hopping on the scyk train, here's my interpretation.

>>49844718
Your U-boats were broken as all hell. Cry more. This reminds me of Phantom pilot's tears.

This has nothing to do with Disney, and everything to do with proper game balance. You can still make a decent torpedo boat with K4+unhinged. You just can't roll up to an opponent with a focus and expect to do 4 damage at range 3 anymore, and you can't run 3 of them.

This FAQ improves the game so much it's almost impossible to quantify.

>>49845158
Four small ships for four small ships sounds fair. Alternatively, one expensive pig and one small. Alternatively alternatively, one not so expensive big ship and two small. Does he get upgrades, or just the ships?

I don't really get it. The removal of one card makes one specific build worse, and so many people are acting like the ship is totally worthless now. Was Deadeye the only possible thing to make Jumpmasters worth running?

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>>49845195
No idea. As long as the trade seems fair.

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>>49845301
Upgrades, ships, base. Basically everything that came with them.

Is there anywhere we can just buy pilot and upgrade cards seperately?

>>49845363
eBay.

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>>49845330
This happens any time anything is nerfed in any game, no matter how obviously broken the pre-nerf item is.

>>49841283
>when your credit score goes up

>>49842525
I love you anon. Also you need a stupidly overpowered teenage jedi.

>>49844757
>>49844779
Of course, I thought that everyone knew that?

>>49845330
People who Take The Game Very Seriously seem to get invested in the lists they copy from the Internet.

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>>49845301
>>49845195
Planning on buying the Most wanted pack with either the Houndstooth or the Shadowcaster. But here are my lists

>Fun Rebel Squad
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!83:18,-1,5:-1:13:;0:57,58,148:-1:20:;4:-1,3:-1:20:&sn=Rouge%20Squadron

>Another fun list built around ships I like.
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!47:170,37,75:3:-1:;155:186,162,-1,-1,97,167:25:14:;160:170,120,160:26:25:&sn=Fly%20Casual

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!131:170,-1,-1,174,173,178,-1:24:-1:;112:98,-1,-1:-1:-1:;120:27,162,116,126,117:-1:-1:U.181&sn=Chex%20Quest%20FINAL

>>49842525
Every other Imperial officer turns into a pigheaded moron with no decision making ability when they're nearby.

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>>49836483
Winter

Or if we want to go more obscure: Bria Tharen.

>>49845330
Anything less than optimal is worthless, anon, didn't you know?

>>49845330
Personally, I'm more annoyed that they had already been nerfed into balance. Triple Scouts was scary when it first came out and was certainly a popular build, but once the Agromech change came down it just fell into the mess of solid lists. There were so many good counters that it couldn't dominate any more, except as a noobslayer.

Before them, all Scum had going for it was Brobots and Thug Lyfe. Thankfully, there's enough good Scum builds now that I think they can stay competitive with a good amount of variety.

I totally want to get into X-Wing.

What should I look into getting? What's a good starting set? Why do I want to do Scum?

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Is SWTOR canon?

>>49846323
Buy core unless you want scum. Then go Most Wanted.

>>49846446
The movies and the clone wars tv show are the only pre-Disney things that stayed canon.

>>49846446
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Canon_policy#What_about....3F

No decisive answer so far. I don't think it matters that much, as it has little to no impact on the PT/OT/ST time period.

>>49846710
My bad. The info on this page is outdated. Leland Chee confirmed TOR to be Legends.

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>>49846710
I really only care if in regards to it making Revan and Surik canon.

>>49846323
Get TFA core, has all the templates dice etc. that you need to play (most players prefer the TFA dmg deck less crippling crits for aces, but both decks are legal to use). Scum is fun, some crazy effects and some of the best big ships. It's known for strong crew and one time effects (illicit is pretty much an entire classification of upgrades just for scum). Triple Jumpmasters just got nerferd, but there's still plenty of good lists like Dengaroo (dengar and Manaroo). Some people are experimenting with scum aces now that protectrate starfighter came out. You can also go with Bro-bots. I'd look at the scum archtypes and then from there find what you need to buy for it (hanshoppedfirst), maybe watch some vids.

>>49846446
Anything that isn't the movies, the show or anything made by Disney isn't canon anymore.
Which is probably why TOR said "Fuck it" and went full bananas with the Knights of the Fallen Empire storyline.
Which is a shame, I don't like how they basically threw away the whole Sith vs Jedi conflict and asspulled a new faction.

Had a thought about Captain Rex with title and Gunner so he can proc the condition twice, but they've already covered that with unique conditions.

Please FFG, I just wanted to combo it with Kanan for 4 dice attacks being reduced to 1.

I wonder what happened to Ventress after the clone wars.

>>49847798
Ear marked for upgrades and/or reserve status

>>49847798

Apparently she was killed by Dooku pre ROTS according to one of the new books. I was kind of pissed off about it

>>49847944
>pre ROTS
What's she doing in XWM, then?

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>>49845429
>Gnasher Shotgun
The GoW3 nightmares never stopped. I just got used to them.

ENDLESS VIGIL FUCKING WHEN

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After a years in the light, I'm crawling back into SWTOR. What class should I play? I'm thinking siding with the Sith, but I don't want to play a Bounty Hunter again.

>>49848135
Go agent

>>49848246
Can I still wear a Darth Mallus mask or something else face-covering? Light Armor often looks dorky in games. The ship looks neat, tho.

>>49848384
Malgus, rather

>>49847798
Vos Lied, Ventress Died.

The book was Dark Disciple.

>>49847955
>XWM
XWM is not canon anon.

>>49848432
The point is that it's in the Rebellion/TFA eras. If she's unavailable after ROTS, how did her appearance get green-lit for XWM?

>>49848454
Prequel ships incoming anon.

>>49847798
SPOILERS
She falls in love with Quinlan Vos, they fuck. Vos turns to the Dark side trying to kill Dooku. Vos ends up getting Ventress killed and goes back to the Light.

>>49848531
What is up with PT-era writers and killing every character's waifus?

>>49848542
It's not just PT anon.

Darth Filoni will never rest until all waifus die.

>>49848542
No loose ends

>>49848454
>>49848477

Pretty much this. There's already been a fair amount of creep from prequel stuff into XWM before wave 9 made it explicit. All the other named pilots for the Hound's Tooth are from Clone Wars for instance.

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>Vos was in TPM

>>49848576
Filoni's not even the first guy. Legends Obi-Wan lost a number of girlfriends even before TCW.

>>49848679
Didn't Luke have a dead girlfriend pile in the old EU also?

>>49848477
Fingers crossed hard for an Imperial V-Wing piloted by Tarkin

Also, I bet a dollarydoo that by the time Rebels Season Five comes along that Ezra pulls a Star Destroyer from the sky

>>49848713
Not really. Only one actually died that i can remember

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Reminder that old Gozantis are the premier Imperial transport for combat vehicles and were even used during the Battle of Hoth.

>>49848713
Luke had Castilla and Mara Jade. Both dead.

Now we can look forward to PURE waifu Luke in new canon.

>>49848755
>PURE
Is that an acronym for "pretty universally regarded as expired?"

>>49848874
No, it's emphasis on pure anon.

Pls don't play with my heart when it comes to my Lukefu. ;_;

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>>49848924
There are only two ladies in the galaxy worthy of our boy. One of them is Mara Jade. The other is the T-65 X-wing.

>>49848924
Luke is probably bi as fuck
>singlehandedly save universe

You bet all the bois and girls lined up for me

>>49848945
>two ladies in the galaxy worthy of our boy
Good thing I'm not a lady

>>49848718
All a V-wing is is a more primitive, gayer-looking TIE.

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>>49848755
Gaerial Captison, Jem Ysanna, Shira Brie, Teneniel Djo, I'm pretty sure there's more I'm forgetting.

Luke was a pussy magnet before the continuity wipe

When is hotac .8 slated to release?

>>49849125
>before the continuity wipe
Good. I always envisioned Luke to be a one person man.

>>49848718
Considering the amount of power creep he's showing, it wouldn't surprise me.

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first for TIE bomber waifu

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I want to eat her ass.

>>49849125
I remember reading the YJK novel where Luke and Tenel Ka goes off looking for Jacen, Jaina and Lowbacca. I dunno if it was my sexstarved brain imagining things but i always got the feeling Tenel Ka was coming on to Luke in the bar they visit to shake down some intel.

Which would be kinda funny since Teneniel Djo also wanted that Jedi D

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>>49849224
Flight Lieutenant Ada is best pilot waifu

>>49849224
>>49849262

Get this anime trash out of my Star Wars.

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>>49849262

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>>49849272
wheredoyouthinkyouare.holo

>>49849272
You know that was made by /m/ right? Your newfag is showing.

>>49848412
Nothing beats looking like an officer

>>49849276
>Unbeknownst to him, "do a barrel roll" sticks in the heads of pilots who hear it, and he has actually saved countless lives this way.

Oh man, these notes are fucking gold

Is it okay to have my EotE be the "mysterious spacers that did X and Y" stuff thats already canon?

>>49849276

>chuuni TIE bomber pilot

>mood-swingy sideburns kid

>"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick" man

Why can't we have a show about these guys and their fruit-loving commander?

>>49849558
No anon. You can't do anything because that conflicts with-

OF COURSE YOU CAN. It's a TTRPG. If you wanted you could kill Vader and the Emperor if that's what you and your players want to do.

Rule 0 anon.

>>49849610
A show about pilots would mean no opportunity for pushing excessive lightsaberwank or Darth "Roman Reigns" Maul. Plus, such a show would bring back the tide of Imperial apologist shitposting from this general's younger days.

>>49849610
Hopefully OtaKing77077 makes more. But as of now there is one this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

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Has anyone played Heroes of the Aturi Cluster for X-wing yet?
I've never collected X-wing minis before so I would need to buy everything required in the campaign, but I'm a sucker for space sims and co-operative combat. Is it worth dropping the money into the minis just to play this module or should I wait there are more similar things available?

>>49849683
>Plus, such a show would bring back the tide of Imperial apologist shitposting from this general's younger days.

If /m/ can survive zeonposters, I'm sure you'll endure space nazi enthusiasts.

>>49849683
>lightsaberwank
I miss Kyle. I want Kyle. Kyle!!!

>>49849768
First see if your flgs does a hotac night, and if so hop into that. You really only need the minis for the ships as well as dials for what you want to fly, but if you hop into traditional play, you will need the upgrade cards.
I love the campaign. I ended up flying a loaded k wing at ps9 in the last campaign we ran.

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>>49849819
>Wanting him back while Wendig still has contracts for books
Not yet, anon. Wait until Wendig is gone. He's already set to spit on Allston's grave. Don't give him the opportunity to defile yet another beloved Legends work.

>>49849276
>dem notes

Well, looks like I'm adding the Anime Aces to my list of things to make in Strange Eons.

>>49849683
>>49849815

>Imperial apologist

Wait, are we not welcome here? Because the Empire would have objectively handled the Vong threat better than the New Republic. Plus under Imperial rule galactic conflicts resolved themselves much quicker than they did under the Republic. You can very easily make the case that in the grander scheme of things, the Galactic Empire was a net positive as far as institutions go.

This is mostly because of poor writing/editorial though, mostly due to the fact that writers fall back on the familiar crutch of using contemporary real-world morality in telling a story of a fantasy world that's totally divorced from reality in multiple ways. No writer ever makes the Empire out to be bad on the macro-level, instead only focusing on micro-level atrocities.

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>>49849868
Good call - I just checked and they're playing X-wing tonight so I might duck in and ask around. Thanks!

Any FFGRPG stats for large monsters anywhere?

>>49849994
No prob. Hope you enjoy it

>>49849949
They blew up a planet.

>>49850012
I think Savage Spirits and Stay on Target have the biggest clumps of Silhouette 2+ beasts.

But you can use: http://swrpg.viluppo.net/adversaries/creatures/
to see where every creature is in published materials.

>>49850053

Yeah but the scaling of Star Wars is so fucked that the MULTIPLE planets the Empire blew up is generally insignificant. They'd have to clear out an entire sector or two for the atrocities to really mean something on the macro-level.

>>49849949
>Because the Empire would have objectively handled the Vong threat better than the New Republic.
Not really, no. The Empire would have left the galaxy even more burnt and broken because scorched earth, world-destroying superweapons, and an utter disregard for anything but Palpatine's own powerboner. The Empire might have won the war, too, sure, but there would have been much less galaxy left to live in.

>galactic conflicts
There were no galactic-scale conflicts under Imperial rule until the GCW, because any conflicts were put down with extreme force.

>grander scheme
State-sanctioned slavery, casual genocides, widespread corruption and nepotism (worse than the NR's), state-sponsored terrorism, Black Sun, and zero rules of engagement typically aren't considered a net positive. The Tarkin Doctrine was also widely regarded, in-universe and out, as extremely inefficient at fighting real wars against enemies who don't succumb to terror tactics. Business was also fucked due to large amounts of bureaucratic red tape and state-sponsored monopolies. The Empire was a net negative, and its actions didn't really improve law and order in the galaxy. Many Imperial apologists fall back on the Vong prep and MUH ORDER arguments due to TIE Fighter and Outbound Flight, but those ones routinely ignore evidence to the contrary.

>>49850053
There's over a million occupied planets in the Empire proper.

>>49849949
There wasn't any Vong

>>49850116
Just because it was bad doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Just like the Prequels.

>>49850137
Careful there, some people from /swco/ might be around

>>49850137
It does when you decide cannon :^)

>>49850150
It still happened in real life. The books were published and people read them. It's not canon anymore but that doesn't mean everyone's memories have been erased,

>>49850137
Except the prequels were saved by the material outside of the movies countless times. Nothing could ever or can ever save the vong. Unless they one day go with Filoni's X-Files themed thing.

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>>49850091

>The Empire would have left the galaxy even more burnt and broken because scorched earth, world-destroying superweapons, and an utter disregard for anything but Palpatine's own powerboner.

This in turn would have stopped the Vong much more quickly, minimizing the overall amount of damage. The Galaxy Gun could have pretty much halted the invasion altogether. Again, bad scale.

>There were no galactic-scale conflicts under Imperial rule until the GCW, because any conflicts were put down with extreme force.

And this is a bad thing because...?

>State-sanctioned slavery

But an overall decrease since private slavery was outlawed

>casual genocides
>state-sponsored terrorism

In a galaxy with a population that we could assume to be in the trillions at minimum

>widespread corruption and nepotism

Not as bad as the Old Republic's

>The Tarkin Doctrine was also widely regarded, in-universe and out, as extremely inefficient at fighting real wars against enemies who don't succumb to terror tactics.

Just because it wasn't good at something it wasn't designed to do doesn't mean you disregard it altogether.

>Business was also fucked due to large amounts of bureaucratic red tape and state-sponsored monopolies.

Again, still better than under the Old Republic.

>its actions didn't really improve law and order in the galaxy

You even said "There were no galactic-scale conflicts under Imperial rule until the GCW, because any conflicts were put down with extreme force." That pretty much makes my case for me. Everything else is insignificant in the bigger picture.

>>49850202
>saved
Okay let's not go that far

>>49849768
Waiting for the Imperial version to come out, myself. I've no interest in playing Rebel scum.

>>49850202
I promise right now, that if the writing career takes off, I will do my best to write an official NuCanon book about incorrigible bullshitter Dash Rendar traveling to the Corporate Sector and inadvertently destroying a Vong probe beacon without even knowing what it is.

And then he will continue lying about how many AT-ATs he took out during the Battle of Hoth.

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>>49850147
>/co/
>people

>>49850292
don't lump every /co/mrade in with swco

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>>49849949
They basically brought back slavery and stripmined planets on a whim for efficient production while displacing/killing the inhabitants.
There's more, but that alone is enough to make them The Bad Guys

>>49850292
>>49850327
/swco/ is a sad place
I have never seen a place more vehemently defend the prequels
>say I liked TFA more than AotC or TPM
>get called a troll

>>49850365
>liking TFA

no nucanon allowed here traitor

>>49850350

>brought back slavery

Slavery was an ongoing thing in the old republic, anon. The only difference is that the Empire actually cracked down on slavers that weren't them, meaning the total spread of slavery was reduced overall.

>stripmined planets on a whim for efficient production while displacing/killing the inhabitants

Okay, but how many planets? And what all was produced?

>>49850223
The PT-era OR was fucked, no question there, but the NR was ultimately a greater net positive. An NR victory over the Vong left a large number of worlds intact for reconstruction and resettlement. Imperial policy would have left the galaxy heavily depopulated and possibly fucked over the long term.

>overall decrease
No statistics are present to say whether slavery increased or decreased, but the fact that the Empire supported it is bad enough. Plus, while the Outer Rim was always a slaver-ridden shithole, the Empire was the first in millennia to use it on a massive industrial scale by using slave labor on its superweapons.

>trillions
A billion innocent lives lost is still a billion innocent lives lost, no matter how many other people there are in the galaxy. Alderaan was also a core world, which meant it was far more heavily populated than most planets in the Mid and Outer Rim. And as far as we know, Star Wars is on the lower end of the space population scale. Corellia, a core world, is listed as having a few billion people. Coruscant, the center of society and most densely populated world in the galaxy, has a mere 1 trillion.

>disregard it altogether
You do if it's the Tarkin Doctrine, which turned out to be a failure on all fronts by encouraging the Rebellion in the first place and wasting countless tax credits on failed wunderwaffen. And instead of investing Star Destroyers, which would have actually won a war, the Tarkin Doctrine might have actually hamstrung galactic security given how easily those superweapons were destroyed.

>no galactic-scale conflicts
Just because the galaxy didn't devolve into anarchy, doesn't mean the Empire kept things safe. Piracy, scum, and villainy still went on. With Black Sun and the Hutts in cahoots with the Empire, one could even argue that crime was on the rise.

Plus, call me naive, but I'm a firm believer in individual rights, democracy, due process, and not being massacred for public assembly.

>>49850406
Not him but I liked TFA :(

>>49850223
>"There were no galactic-scale conflicts under Imperial rule until the GCW, because any conflicts were put down with extreme force."

The point he was making is that the Empire used excessive force when it wasnt needed. The fact that there still was a galatic conflict undermines your case as well.

>>49850420

>Plus, call me naive, but I'm a firm believer in individual rights, democracy, due process, and not being massacred for public assembly.

See, that's the problem. You're using real-world logic on a world that's not real. The United States has 350 million people give or take, and our democracy is barely functioning. How the hell is democracy supposed to work in a galaxy with trillions and trillions of people?

>>49850450

Yeah, but the excessive force worked, which is what matters in the end.

>>49850467
You get rid of the Bothans. The vast majority of the NR's internal problems were caused by the goddamn Bothans. Remove them, and the New Republic suddenly runs a hell of a lot more smoothly. Fucking Borsk.

>>49850467
>worked
Ultimately, it didn't. It only pissed people off. Alderaan became a rallying cry across the galaxy.

>>49850410
>Slavery was an ongoing thing in the old republic, anon. The only difference is that the Empire actually cracked down on slavers that weren't them, meaning the total spread of slavery was reduced overall.
I disagree, they brought slavery back in the core and didn't really wipe out too much on the rim.

>>49850450
>Yeah, but the excessive force worked, which is what matters in the end.

But it didnt, there was still a galatic conflict. At best it delayed the conflict for a short while

>>49850559
meant for >>49850494

Within the FFG rules, what is the largest silhouette ship that can land planetside?

>>49850494

>Ultimately, it didn't. It only pissed people off. Alderaan became a rallying cry across the galaxy.

Really, this is the only thing the Empire did wrong. Alderaan was a shitty target and someone should have pointed out to Tarkin and Sheev that they'd be putting otherwise comfortable, apathetic people into "fight or die" mode. If they hadn't done that, the Rebellion would have petered out as the vast majority of the galaxy decided that Imperial Rule was worth the cost.

Really it's just bad writing, since Sheev is an expert politician and the mastermind behind a galactic conflict, he should have known that what happened would only blow up in his face. Inb4 that was his plan all along for some stupid reason.

>>49850406
Grow up, faggot.

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/swg/ will scum ever get HUGE SHIPS? And if so, what ships?

I dont miss the EU at all

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>>49850674
I hope for the Minstrel Class Star Yacht but we all know if they ever get one it's going to be a fucking Action IV/V/VI

>>49850606

Pretty sure there are no rules for this. If it can fly, it can land. Immobile stations probably can't, for obvious reasons, but SDs are canonically able to do atmo, and Venators canonically land on the ground. So that's at least up to SIL 8, and if you have the space no reason not to allow it for SIL 9.

>>49850674
Of course they will, eventually.
I'm sure.

Yup.
It'll happen.

>>49850690

Minstrel would work pretty good because it canonically deploys fighters (even if it's Zs, y'know you could work in some other ship) and would have multiple titles.

No idea what the difference between Star Jewel and Dragon Pearl is, but it could be a thing.

>>49850690
>>49850713
Star Jewel gets the tractor beam Dragon pearl keeps the ion cannons from FFG's RPG statblock?

It's not even worth hoping for the Minstrel though, it's gonna be the Action series, Wild Karrde, Starry Ice etc. The fuckin Action Series was popular enough to show up in Attack of the fuckin Clones.

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>>49850690
It's gonna be neither of those

>>49850638
>entire economy hinged on making war, with truly retarded levels of red tape
>massive economic, bureaucratic, military, and political corruption
>massive organized crime problem
>all the other atrocities and rights violations
>utter lack of backup plan in case Palps and his clones get iced
>Vader's lack of political savvy or willingness to get into politics
>insufficient bread and circuses

The Empire was an unsustainable venture in the long term. Whether by Vong, bureaucratic bloat, delayed Rebellion, or Vader following the Sith Code, it would have eventually collapsed in on itself. Hell, an Empire weakened by a Vong invasion would have been ripe for a reborn Rebel Alliance.

>>49850761
vong never happened

>>49850752

Well, Minstrel is a decent pick for one of them, if Scum needs min 2 to catch up. Think of all the canonical Scum crew which doesn't make any sense elsewhere. Jabba, Bib Fortuna, Max Rebo and the Max Rebo Band...

Action is also a solid guess, with Wild Karde, maybe an Interceptor title to tie it into Zann and then you can bundle it with a new StarViper. Scum alternate for the Gozanti is also a solid bet. I'd also put cash down that Hammerhead is the next Rebel huge, no idea what imperials would get.

>>49850760
It will be that ship (Or if we're lucky the black Sun Gozanit with its "Mouth" still open) plus the Action. I sincerely doubt we'll get the Minstrel as much as I love it.

>>49850674
An I-talian leak that's been accurate so far suggests that the crusader corvette is in the pipe

what are the best sil 5+ ships for player use that aren't corellian y-whatever models?

>>49850638
Sheev was surfing on his success as a Sith and the Tarkin doctrine fit with his own code pretty damn well. Very little had stopped the Empir's advance and the Death Star was to be the crowning achievement that absolute fear would keep the galaxy in check, a doctrine that worked from the end of the Clone Wars to the destruction of Alderaan. But thanks to the intervention of a Rebellion and from a certain Force-sensitive farmboy, Sheev and Tarkin would've been proven right yet again.

Not their fault the Force suddenly backed a Rebel fighter at that precise moment.

>>49850927

I mean, I wouldn't give up hope, because you never know - Scum might need 3 Huge to catch up, but I will agree with the obvious Syck fix now just put in the FAQ, the two ships who need "fixing" or improvement for Scum are both predominantly Black Sun oriented, though I guess the Kihraxz has a "Cartel Spacer" pilot.

It's kind of funny looking at Scum pilots, you can pick out some interesting little archetypes or sub-factions in their pilots - particularly generics. Got generic mercs/bounty hunters in stuff like the Ys, the G-1A, etc. Black Sun in StarVipers, Z-95s and Kihraxz. Hutt Cartel in their little Syck (FFG plz add Dunelizard and Krayt kthx). Mandos in the Firespray and Fang Fighter.

>>49851087

Pretty sure the Italian leak was completely wrong about Wave X.

So I came up with this list basically just to shit on my brother who I know likes to tend towards meta things so I know he's probably going to want to use a tricked out Soon Tir Fel and then maybe a TIE/sf and his TIE/fos.
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!205:-1,-1,184,-1:41:26:;7:0,-1,1,2:-1:7:;47:54,0,38:3:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron
The idea is to drop a double target lock and focus point on Dutch ASAP and blast Fel off the board with the proton torp and a round of shots before he gets to be a cunt and then spend the rest of the match drifting around slowly passing locks and focus points around to ensure steady ionization and create chances for the ARC to pick off the remainders.

I've only got access to stuff from the FA core set, the headhunter, the HWK, the ARC, the A-wing and the Y-wing. Anyone know a better way I could pull this strat off with just the stuff in those sets?

>>49851111
>Not their fault the Force suddenly backed a Rebel fighter at that precise moment.
It is, however, Tarkin's fault for not scrambling fighters to make sure the farmboy never even got there in the first place.

>>49851111

>Anon going with the KoTOR II idea of the force as an abstract entity backing individuals, as if it's an intangible embodiment of destiny
>Those quads

I like this post very, very much.

>>49851146
>KoTOR II idea
"May the Force be with you" has been a thing since before KOTOR.

>>49851201

Yeah but that phrase has a lot of different interpretations, the idea that the force as an entity specifically backs individuals at a certain time and at a certain place because of its importance is what KoTOR II specifically implies.

>>49851095
Probably something like the Consular or Gozanti

>>49850365
They're jaded because they are the first star wars thread /tv/ raids

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>>49851095
Other than making your own ship, this is my favorite legends ship that seems like it should be a 5

>>49851283
Gozanti aren't big or bulky enough to be 5's

>>49851645

Gozanti is a SIL 5 bro

>>49851683
They're barely bigger than the Ghost they shouldn't be sil 5

Can Force ghosts be seen by non-Force sensitive people?

>>49851708

The Ghost is also SIL 5

>>49851746
FFG should watch Rebels again and realize they locked the ship out of using the maneuvers and actions it does in the show

>>49850638
I figured this was partly Ugly grandad going crazy because of the dark side influence.
In his early days he could hold back the call towards pride, hate, destruction, the desire to rule by fear, etc.
But once he had the power and nothing to stop him, he started giving to those impulses. By the time there was opposition again and he needed to resist them again, he no longer could. He could no longer be patient and forgiving. He couldn't act humble or compassionate.

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>>49846446

Hammerhead cruisers from KOTOR appear in both Rebels and Rogue One it seems

>>49851717
Most likely not.

Quoting from the Wook:
>"I was able to touch you because we are connected by the Force. I drew on your link with the Force to become more solid, just as I draw on it now to become visible to you."

>While it could appear to anyone it wished, a spirit could not choose to become audible or visible to only some beings and not the others, since the ability to perceive the manifestation depended on the beholder's strength in the Force.[2]

>>49851929
They're just inspired by the design

>>49851929
That doesn't make Kotor or Tor canon.

Besides why would the Rebels being using 4000 year old ships? Come on anon.

>>49851942
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks bro

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>>49846446

Disney should ask if the movies can be KoToR canon, best Star Wars story ever told.

>>49851968
>>49851966

I never said it made them canon, I was just stating that they exist still, or rather are inspired by that design.

Glad that the studio are big enough fans of KOTOR stuff to implement that. They said if they ever found a place they could pop in something from KOTOR, they'd do their best to do it.

>>49852000
The games or the comics? Because the Zayne Carrick saga was fucking fun. Aside from Jolee, HK, and Canderous, the actual game was pretty generic fare.

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>MFW the FFG X-Wing Forum

>>49851813
FFG should take thumbscrews to the people who wrote the vehicle rules in general.

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>>49852067
>A Bioware Game
>Generic

>>49852077
I remember poking my nose over at FFG's armada forum and being blown away at how much pointless drama was occurring. entire threads about this guy leaving armada because blah de blah de blah why the fuck are you making a big stink out of it. It was something like 10 pages, and it blew my mind that people wasted so much time on it.

>>49852184
Bioware is literally a shovel that throws out generic, crappy shit every year. Fuck them and fuck EA.

>>49850053
A planet that has conspired against the Empire since its inception. A planet filled with traitors.

Before you betray your legally appointed government, make sure your planet has some defenses against the battle station of which you just just stole the schematics.

Because, you know, it blows up fucking planets.

>>49852184
What are you implying?

>>49852252
>Before you betray your legally appointed government, make sure your planet has some defenses against the battle station of which you just just stole the schematics.

But then the Another Chance wouldn't become a great RPG hook or important plot point in the Bacta War.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Another_Chance

>>49852252
>Immediately defaulting to genocide as option 1
>Not even drone strikes
>Not even sending the space gestapo
>Nope, better commit genocide
>Even though a some of the planet's population actually still supports the Empire, signs up for Imperial military service, and pays taxes
>Even though we helped inflame those rebellious sentiments because we slapped the large alien migrant population with high travel taxes

There is such a thing as excessive force.

>>49852252

Yeah I mean it must have felt good to fry some hippies, I won't deny that, but at the same time you gotta realize that it's very easy to martyr them as well

I mean of all the superweapons they could have at least used something like the Nightcloak and said that it was an environmental disaster or something, flat-out superlasering them was a little excessive.

>>49852254
He thinks romance options are somehow a better idea to spent time on during game development instead of coming up with a good ending for a story that spawned a pretty big IP.

>>49852345
>There is such a thing as excessive force.

Rightly or wrongly, Tarkin disagreed.

>>49852345
It was one big drone strike.

How many people from Alderaan caused problems after it accidentally a Death Star?

Survey says...

>0

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>>49852467
>How many people from Alderaan caused problems after it accidentally a Death Star?
At least one princess, her body double, the son of the planet's biggest Holonet provider, and an unknown number of Alderaan-born Imperial military defectors. Indirectly, there's also Another Chance and all the gear stripped from her escorts.

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>>49852444