/swg/ - Salt Shaker Half-Full Of Glitterstim Edition

>>49852759
I watch and read star wars shit drunk all the fucking time, if that counts

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Second for the glory of Emperor Trioculus!

>>49852820
>reading drunk
Mon dieu, how can you read while drunk? That's almost like blasphemy.

t. >>>/lit/

>>49852759
I've watched the two Ewok Adventures movies back to back while smoking weed with some friends. It doesn't help.

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>>49852759
Anyone recommend some good "Last stand" music for Two Jedi [most likely teacher/student] against a group of Sith?

Or really some good Star wars-ish music in general?

>>49852890
>how can you read while drunk?
Pretty easily. Hell, I'm doing it right now

>>49852759
Unless sleep deprivation or general illness counts I never have. Guess I'm a bit of a bore. Or unless actual prescriptions count then most of the time.

>>49853105
>Inb4 Roundabout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDR5ZBQBfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOr0na6mKJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CbFAZ2ztlE

Do any of these work?

>>49853263
I would argue one of the "Final showdown" tracks would fit better than Ecstasy of Gold

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>>49853263
You have my thanks dudeloo,

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Shit guys, I was illuminated by the magic of the Y-Wing tonight during my local X-Wing league. My Gold Squadron pilot, wielding his mighty Dorsal Turret, succeeded in every single one of his evade rolls during the first game and accounted for half of the damage on Ventress' ship before finally being brought down, and during the next game he swooped into action to not only eliminated Manaroo single-handed, but still had enough hull integrity to land the killing blow on Dengar.

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/swg/ I have a big of an artist block. I joined a canon only no-legends no-force no-mando group. I want to make a Bounty Hunter wearing heirloom armor that has old decals and symbols on their armor. Problem is I don't know what canon symbols or artwork to use, I've got the Death Squad (kind of bending the rules a bit with no mandos) symbol but I'm afraid thats all I can think with the exception of new order and the pubs. I kind of want a mixture of factions and organizations so what else can would be acceptable canonically? I am okay with generic decal ideas as well.

>>49853836

Check out the flag parade from TPM and the flags at Maz' castle in TFA - both are canonical sets of designs.

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>>49853836
>generic
You can never go wrong with this or Kilroy. Nucanon is also ridiculously sparse, so not much precedent has been set for other faction iconography. It's still a setting that is very much under construction. You can probably use this as an excuse to steal insignia ideas from Metal Gear, Battletech, Halo multiplayer icons, etc., though.

>EotE campaign
>whole party has good looking well organized sheets thanks to Oggdude's character creator
>Except the one guy insisting on using a truly godawful abomination courtesy of mythweavers

Literally why. It's basically My First HTML Project, white background and black Arial font with some check boxes and Unicode characters for the dice.

So who's Wendig and why is he so awful?

>>49854242

>So who's Wendig

Some nerdy white guy author who mostly writes urban fantasy or near future stuff, far as I can tell. LFL probably picked him because he was "hip" or "fresh".

> why is he so awful?

He's not really awful, but his novels are badly out of tone with the setting, have incredibly cliched plots (not even in a fun way), and most of his characters are boring. He seemingly suffers from a terrible combination of not enough editing to polish up his writing, but too much editorial oversight as his central characters aren't really interesting and don't do a lot - probably because LFL has a rigid path to TFA to follow.

And like a lot of social justice/identity politics types, he seems to take all forms of criticism as personal attacks on him, everything he believes in and generally all good and just human beings everywhere.

>>49854292
Also writes SW in the present tense. Aftermath seems like a poorly edited RP log of a game with a terrible GM.

>>49854404
Present tense is fashionable right now, and its fashionability is part of that 'never ever use passive voice' thing that gets blogged around on the writer side of social media and is completely misunderstood by most of them.

>>49854436
It doesn't fit Star Wars at all. And there's really not much wrong with passive voice.

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>>49853632

Y-Wing best wing <3

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>>49853836
>canon only no-legends no-force no-mando group
>no-mando's

Mando hate is hipster bullshit.

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>>49854242

>>49854242

Hes worse then Karen Traviss. He accused people who didn't like his book of being homophobes and writing negative reviews without having read the book.

>>49854510
He's saying the same thing you're saying you nonce.

>>49853836

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:WookieeProject_Images/Gallery_of_insignia,_logos,_and_symbols

It's a mix of legends and canon but you can pick it apart as you like.

>>49854683
Well that's just horrifying

>>49854770
I'm not that same guy but thanks for sharing the link, i didn't even know that page existed.

>>49853632
For a fun little ywing try one with the dorsal turret, btl, vector thrusters and unhinged astromech.

Its almost like flying 2 tie fighters stapled together with more hull/ shields

>>49854683
"The TIE somehow manages limps through the Myrran (Myrranese? Myrranian? Myrranesque?) sky. Sparks and debris fall from its broken frame onto the rooves of the city. A trail of thick smoke the only indicator of ts passing.

Is this better? worse? passable?

>>49854906
Spelling errors aside.

>>49854906
Oddly worse.

>>49854911
Lets face it, that's why editors exist... or don't in Wendig's case

>>49854683
The TIE careens across the Myrran rooftops, heaving cruelly from side to side. A moment later it crashes out of sight.

>>49854683
>herkily jerkily

Damn, I don't have a Ned Flanders pic to post on this phone.

I was thinking of a new list to make good use of my near favourite A wings and thought with the idea of running this:
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!196:18,-1,148,-1:39:20:;87:73:7:25:U.18;86:18,73:7:15:U.27&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

Any thoughts? Idea is that if there's a shuttle or a big heavy threat gemmer and jake can rush it with 11 red dice on its first combat and poe would be pretty fun as a ps9 bb8 dancer when that comes out.

>>49853217
How long? When I've been pushing 24 hours and it's the 3am I get very paranoid and see shit out of the corners of my eyes. Come 32-36 it's like being very drunk, except not at all the sort of drunk I actually get.

>>49854914
eh. Least I didn't use herkily-jerkily or wibble and wobbles.

>>49853836
In keeping with the glorious nucan you could grafitti the words "Eat Me" on your chest.

Reminder that this was a thing

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

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The waifus strike back

>>49854652
I don't hate Mandos because they're written well by certain writers(Avellone and Filoni in particular). But you have to admit they're a magnet for Gary Stus. I had a friend who unironically and enthusiastically described an AU fanfic about how Mandos and Grey Jedi teamed up to beat the empire and take over the galaxy and I've heavily distrusted both character concepts ever since.

>>49855163
What's wrong anon? Don't like Jizz? Don't want to experience the pleasure of hanging out in a cantina and letting a bunch of alien Jizz wash over you from their slitherhorns, peel rods, and Jizz-boxes?

>>49853836
If you want to sneak a Mando under the radar it's rather simple. Don't wear a helmet and don't mention clan and family shit unless someone asks you directly. To other players you're simply a very serious and organized character with one or two character quirks.
Another thing that helps is masking your armor as something else, like saying it's got symbols from a private security firm or a Hutt cartel.

>>49855228
>DM explicitly says no Mandos
>"just sneak one in anyway lel"
This is an awful idea.

>>49854652
yeah thats why I made a bounty hunter to circumvent it. I absolutely love Mando'a culture. Well, what can you do. I am making them out to be the kid of a Death Watch defector or some shit, who is just using daddy's armor to take over the biz or is that a lil lame?

>>49854770
Bless you anon.

>>49855228
Thats the plan, anon. I already got a unique helmet for the character and they aren't revealing their actual name until someone takes off their custom helmet.

>>49855203
my schwartz can only get so erect

>>49855163
My new favorite instrument is the the jizz box.

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>>49854992
Let me help with that, my dude.

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>>49855640

>>49855163
I love the Star Wars music genres like Jizz, Heavy Isotope, Jump-Leap etc. Recognizable as real world genres if you tilt your head and squint a bit but still different enough to be plausible in-universe genre names

>>49855304
If he was really into mando culture, you would have some upbringing in it, and he wouldnt just let you take his armor out for a spin every now and then

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>>49855640
Oh its on now brother!

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IMPERIAL

WAIFUS

>>49855716
yes but it means someone sat down and thought yes, jizz-wailers with jizz-boxes and ploong sounders are definitely great names

also my sides have been altered, and I pray they are not altered any further

>The jizz-box was a musical device. In 13 ABY, the protocol droid C-3PO, who was stranded on the planet of Nim Drovis, auditioned to perform at a cantina called the Wookiee's Codpiece. C-3PO performed by playing back songs stored in his memory core with his vocabulator. The assistant manager of the establishment told the droid that he sounded like a festering jizz-box and rejected him, saying the Codpiece already had a jizz-box to play.[1]

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>>49855934
>jizz-wailers with jizz-boxes and ploong sounders are definitely great names
They fit just fine in a lighthearted, '70s/'80s space fantasy setting.

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>>49854652
Mandalorians are top tier.

Post Mando waifus

Post themes of Star Wars nu-canon characters.

Darth Maul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16NjjDPLlc

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>>49856146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uc3V8NxKWw

>>49854292
Let's not forget that he literally made 'social media' Star Wars canon. You got that right, Spacebook (or something quite similar to that) is a thing in Disney nu-canon because of our pal Wendig.

>>49856146
Someone needs to remix this with the Dual of the Fates chant. Just time the DOTF chants to the melody of Roman's theme.

>>49856167
>Author can't envision life functioning without X
>Slots X into setting where it has no place

I hate this, not just with him but anyone who does it.

>>49856200
Let's not forget that such a thing would NOT be born under the Empire's rule. The only people the Empire wanted their subjects to be 'social' with was the local recruiter.

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>>49856035
gotta love them

>>49855934
>>49855966
Jizz is a slang term for semen, that's why its funny in a cringe inducing way.

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What are your guys thoughts on the Biggs nerf?

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>>49856035

>>49856312
Last FAQ update altered Deadeye, Cluster Mines, Heavy Scyk and selecting red maneuvers while stressed, as well as clarifying some obstacle collision rules. I don't see how this affects Biggs in any way, did I miss something?

>>49856312

What Biggs nerf? It's always been that he only works if you could fire at Biggs normally, they've just made it clear this also applies if you pick a weapon that has limited ranges then you can ignore Biggs if that gun can't target him as well.
Most of the time you're going to be using something with a 2-3 range, and you should be making Biggs hang as far fucking back as he can whilst still in range just to increase the chances of him getting range three bonuses anyway.
The only time I can think this is going to come up is Autoturrets and Prockets.

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>Just found out about the plot of Aftermath
>Will cover the battle of Jakku
>All but confirmed in NuCanon that the empire unilaterally surrenders after it
>The long, drawn out battle against the Imperial Remnant of Legends, when it took the Rebellion 2 years to capture Coruscant and years of war after that, including the Thrawn Campaign, has been replaced by a year

>>49856411
>>49856374
I don't want to get in an argument but I was under the impression that targetlock ordnance was now usable against ships even if biggs is with them. I took that as a nerf.

>>49856643

Why the fuck would they nerf Biggs now though? There's no goddamn reason. Plus, how often have you seen Ordinance used by something that DOESN'T have Deadeye on it?

>>49856643
I thought it always worked that way.

>>49856740
Well, now with Dead eye being small ship only, often?

>>49856643
effectively you now pick the weapon first, then the target. This means that if you choose TLT when Biggs is in your donut, ordnance with a target other than Biggs TL'd, or anything else that can't shoot Biggs you now don't have to.

>>49856643
>>49857105

Looking at it, there is a strong argument to be made that weapons with the Attack [target lock] can't target someone they don't have a Target Lock on, thus enabling them to escape Bigg's effect whenever they use Torps and Missiles in the usual way.

Unless the rulings indicate that you can target a ship you don't have a TL on with Attack [TL] weapons, you just can't fire that turn.

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Which TIE is best TIE?

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because Darth Vader

>>49857180
https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/586s80/biggs_ffg_official_answer/

Someone already checked with rules guy at FFG. If you TL nonBiggs and then choose your torp as the weapon that you're shooting, you cannot shoot Biggs with the torp (thus negating his ability) and then may shoot his wingmate.

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because it's a TIE that looks like a tie.

>>49852890
Reasing drunk is easy. Reading on acid is hard. Maybe you got the two confused?

Say anons, where should I go to find some good character art for jedi pcs?

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because it moves faster than I think.

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>>49857194
Gotta go fast

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because Darth Vader...is in another ship.

>>49857217

Well, that ramps up the usefulness of the Black-1 Title in Heroes of the Resistance a lot.

Alternatively, what we need now is a Droid that can redirect Target Locks onto itself, except I think there's already an Imperial Shuttle pilot that does that isn't there?
Wes is also useful in this situation.

>>49852884
Just because the Dark Side helped you grow your hair back doesn't mean it's good, Tien.

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>>49857194
>>49857236
Seconding for GOTTA GO FAST TIE

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>>49857194
My TIE is best X-Wing.

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>>49857194
Time to fight the Rebels agaaaaain.

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I'm tired of TIE fighters. Post colonists.

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>>49857194
Time to fight the Rebels agaaaaain

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>>49857194
Time to fight the government agaaaaain

>>49856445

nu-cannon is bullshit. this has always been the case

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>>49857194
Rare!

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Post boss tier vehicles and ships for a campaign

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>>49857194
Rare!

I tried to salvage the nerfmasters yesterday.

I loaded up with crack shot, K4, plasmas, extras, chips, unhinged, and feedback. 37 is a bit steep, but I could fit Homing N'dru in as well.

It went fairly well. Acquiring TLs with a PS3 ship is ass, but TL + focus made primaries and the few torps I fired very reliable. Feedback Array was the mvp, but I was already using that in my deadeye build.

It'll clown PS1/2 like always, but I don't know if it's an all comers build.

Bumpmaster is probably the way forward.

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>>49857194
My TIE is best because it's a tank.

>>49856740
It's not really a nerf, but rather a clarification of sorts. Biggs should not force a player to use a specific attack, whether primary or secondary. Especially since on the timing issue the target selection comes after the attack selection. And Biggs doesn't break the rules for target selection by being outside of arc or range (which has always been the case). So basically this "nerf" is really just clarifying that if you select a Proton Torpedo, and the target lock you discard is not on Biggs, then he can't eat the torpedo. He can still eat a Deadeye Torpedo fired from discarding a Focus token, provided he's not outside of arc or range.

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>>49857519
>>49857194
MY TIE is best TIE because it's a corvette.

>>49857511
Yeah, the Deadee nerf just removes the brainlessness behind the torp-boats. You'll still be able to use them as ordnance carriers, but you'll have to set up the target locks, or use K4 like you are. And that said, K4 is one of the best crew options Scum has for any ship with a healthy selection of green maneuvers.

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>>49857194

>>49857257
> Darth Vader is in another ship

To be fair, that means you're going with the safer alternative.

>>49857655
I call it the TIE Eagle Hammerhead iThrust

>>49854242

He's an unpleasant, obnoxious chode with a raging hateboner for anyone who doesn't agree with his opinions. He was one of the biggest voices whining and bitching about the Hugo Awards hijack specifically because Vox Day and other people he didn't like got nominated.

It's even more embarassing because while all the other Hugo handwringers were generally low-level guys like Phil Sandifer, Wendig got super-cry despite now being a major figure in fucking Star Wars of all things. So now his obnoxious behavior drags down the Star Wars brand on top of things.

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because ancient chivalrous combat techniques.

>>49857655
I legitimately love this thing, but I imagine it would have overheating problems.

>>49857581
Raider is my shipfu

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>>49857811
My TIE is best because not one pod, not two pods - four pods!

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I need help with Sith Lord concepts for a thing. I want them to be in the same vein as Nihlus or Scion in that the Dark Side has warped them into something horrible and inhuman. Like scion was unable to die and was completely made of burnt skin, broken bones, and torn flesh. The only idea I have so far is a Sith Lord based on Entropy, whose body is a desiccated corpse but can share his powers with lesser people, in exchange for them fueling his undeath.

>>49857935
>>49857811
>>49857655
>>49857519
I am 96% sure that all of these were designed on an episode of Top Gear.

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>>49857966

>>49856445
>Wendig in charge of one of the most interesting battles in the new canon
NO! FUCK NO! Why couldn't we just have Claudia Gray? She did it good in Lost Stars!

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>>49857954
You know I actually think I hot it down lock. Dran some coffee and had a major brainblast

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>>49858445
>Flanker
>looks nothing like glorious Slav design
That TIE's designer sure is a fagot.

>>49857954
So basically a Sith Lord with a mostly dead body, sustained by a high tech chair or something like that, kind of like the Emprah? His only way of getting around could be by bending people's minds with the Force, and living through them.

I like it, that sounds like a fun rpg boss, especially if he's got a bunch if cultist worshipping him and offering him new bodies to sustain himself.

>>49855178
Yup. It's basically the hipster Gary Stu for people who don't want to chalk up their awesomeness to the Force.

>>49857217
Blast it Biggs!

>>49858451
Because Wendig stirred up a shitstorm. To Disney there is no bad PR, only good PR and "interesting" PR

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>>49858520
I actually just had another idea. My only problem is that I don't wanna post it here since my players frequent this thread. I tens to not try to toot my own horn but I kinda wanna bring what I thought up with someone at Disney/Lucas Arts to see if they wanna use the concept. I'm sure it's been thought up before but I've never seen it used in Star Wars.

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>>49858451
I know anon, I know.

I really, really hope that the Battle of Jakku gets the full treatment it deserves someday, not a shitty book or as a Battlefront map where the really interesting stuff happens offscreen or in the skybox. Give me a Rogue Squadron style game rendered with a AA or AAA budget to show off the massive scale of the space battle, or a true shooter campaign that shows the full horror on the ground from its hectic beggining the the desperate end as the few remaining survivors dish it out among the ruined ships. Battlefront opted for the last part, but because it was Battlefront it feels like a playground more so than a pitched battle.

Ironically, that fan film that just came out did it the best. You really got the feeling that this was the last stand of the Empire-all three characters had nothing to lose and seemed to know they were fighting to the last.

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So, I've been giving some thought to statting out some custom ships for xwing. First thing that came to mind was the Jupiter 2 from the lost in space reboot. As a kid I had a model and a toy from the movie that would fit right into the game as either a large base ship or a huge ship. The look of it positively screams mon Cal design language and I think if I gave it sort of a home 1 paint job it would probably fit right in on the table. Anyone have any experience doing this sort of thing?

>>49858526
Combined with the hipster Gary Sue for force users who want to have their force(being a good guy) and eating it too(all to supah kewl dark side powers). Needless to say I didn't let that guy in any of my SW games. All that said, I DO think Mandalorians can be done well even in the context of an RPG, but I understand why DMs ban them. It's why I don't complain when a DM bans me from playing a drow.

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>>49858706

Engine array looks even more mon Cal to me than the design.

>>49858445
That looks nothing like a TIE. The wings are on sideways, the cockpit is all wrong and the engines are supposed to be behind the pod not on the wings. Idiot doesn't even know how to Sienar 3/10 only for the turret.

>>49856445
It's worse than that.
Pretty much immediately after, the new republic fucking DISBANDS it's entire fucking army and navy. Yeah.

>>49858744
>Pretty much immediately after
But don't they have an army in Bloodline? They mention X-Wings, and they have pilots and shit. Bloodline is only like 10 years before TFA iirc.

>>49858761
>>49858744
As I recall, they just drastically reduce the size of the military, enough to where Starkiller Base is literally able to kill the NR navy because it was stationed around Hosnia. So yeah, there's still an NR military, but it's too weak to actually do much of significance.

Honestly this setting just seems so boring so far. It feels like the major plotpoints for TFA happen like, two years after Endor-the Empire is kill, the First Order is founded, and the NR gets rid of its defense. There doesen't seem to be much sense of gradual buildup to these things which would make them a logical decision. I blame it on TFA and pre-release materials not doing much to explain the situation, so now authors have to play catch up to explain it. But as a result we've completely lost any chance of a protracted NR vs Remnant war like in Legends, and I don't really know what they'll replace it with.

>>49858761
IIRC the plan was to disband any sort of federal army or navy and rely completely on local defence forces, so those might be what's talked about. I may be getting my nucanon timeline mixed up due to the timeskips with very little infill, though

>>49858744
It was the Alliance to RESTORE the Republic, not 'the Alliance to Improve Upon the Obvious and Idiotic Failings of the Republic,' after all.

>>49858744

Thank god I was always opposed to NuCanon and chose to stick with Legends almost exclusively

I feel so vindicated right now.

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>>49858889
So is the First Order the only Remnant of the Empire or are there more and the Order is just a certain flavor. Cause they don't say there isn't.

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>>49858889
With any luck, retcons for stupid bullshit will remain a perfectly acceptable policy.

>>49858999
So what, did that really fucking work? Did people REALLY think that was a good idea? The Empire, with a fleet of 25,000 ships, wasn't just going to up and disappear once they took and won a couple of major battles!

God the NuCanon galaxy must be a Syria level shithole. No galactic government able to enforce any kind of law or willing to protect its citizens while Imperial warlords run rampant across the place.

>>49859100
There is an both an Imperial Remnant, who are apparently fairly reasonable and signed a peace accord after Jakku. The First Order was pissed and split off.

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>>49859121
>>49859112
Do we still have asshole Warlords? Cause that's how I'm headcanoning it.

>>49859235
Unconfirmed, heavily implied that the First Order is it. If there were other warlords in the TFA era, then it only brings up the question of why the fuck none of them took advantage of NuMothma's incompetence sooner.

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>>49857954
He could also have lots of big, tough droids with disruptor rifles...

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>>49859268
Why is she so incompetent now? I barely remember the movie other than major plot points.

>>49859297

Scared of another Palpatine or military power grabs, iirc

>>49859112
There's nothing suggesting that warlords other than the first order exist AT ALL.

Which also brings up the very pressing question of where exactly did the 99.whatever% of the imperial navy not blown up over jakku GO?

>>49859297
She basically dissolved all but one(?) of the NR's fleets (that was destroyed in orbit of Hosnian by the Starkiller blast) right after the post-Jakku peace accords because she was intent on demilitarization.

>>49859379
They didn't want to live in the Nucanon anymore and skipped out of the dimension, clearly.

>>49859268

Busy backbiting each other in many cases, or being manhandled by the local sector forces. I'd imagine there's a lot of 'volunteers' dedicated to paying back the imperial dicks in sectors where they were heavily oppressed.

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>>49859121
A lot of NuCanon stuff actually makes sense if you give it a bit of thought.
Like why didn't the Alliance hunt down the obviously unstable First Order? From TFA's Visual Dictionary (and possibly Bloodlines, I haven't read that yet), Leia wanted to, but the other senators plugged their ears and wanted to pretend that the war was over and that Leia was being a paranoid warmonger.

Some of the idiocy of NuCanon is definitely on the part of the characters in the 'verse and not necessarily the writers. Except Wendig.

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because it's CUTE!!!

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>>49859297
Legends Mon Mothma was a well-meaning control freak who never lost sight of the Imperial menace or the usefulness of a carrier battle group. Nucanon Mon Mothma was one of the backers of the disarmament act that helped cause TFA in the first place.

>don't want to make the OR's mistakes from the Clone Wars
>make one of the OR's horrible mistakes from BEFORE the Clone Wars instead

>>49859297
Because the Rebel Alliance was founded by the peace faction in the senate during the end of the Clone Wars. They opposed the entire idea of a militarized Republic on principle, even when it was clearly nessecary for the New Republic. The US made a similar mistake by implementing a very weak federal government until 1787, because there was a paralyzing fear of a strong government in general and executive in particular.

>>49859379
I thought it was alobg the lines of the remant were at a temtative peace and it was more infighting to try and take control. The FO just said fuck all you and left to do their own thing and fade from the new republics view

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>>49859443
>>49859401
>>49859400
>>49859379
>>49859268
>>49859121

Then where will the conflict come from once the Order is defeated at the end of this current trilogy.

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>>49859485
Adumar.

>>49859485
A bunch of ebil corpurationz are going to build a secret army and launch the CIS 2.0

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>>49859485

>>49859444
I still want a miniature one of these as a surveillance/recon droid. All the variable pitch wing surfaces would make it tremendously emotive.

>>49859485

I'm guessing the New Order was left alone because it retreated from the core space, maybe what was the NR navy was on standby to check the smaller warlords. With the Republic's navy shattered, those warlords might united under the Order's banner, or simply become a much bigger thorn in the Republic's side as they grasp for more influence and power.

>>49859568
Please no.

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>>49859568

They look like the falmer from Skyrim

>>49859096
You're a huge faggot and someone should rape your face

>>49859443
This shit was originally IN THE MOVIE, but it got cut. Leia even sends a representative to the Republic capital with proof to throw in the Senate's face that there really are superweapons in the Outer Rim, but then Starkiller Base fires.

>>49859444
That's almost TIE Raptor levels of Moe.

>>49859614
>I'm guessing the New Order was left alone because it retreated from the core space
That just leaves more questions. Why did nobody pursue them? Why did NRI or some other sneeki breeki never track through the Unknown Regions? If poorfag Rebs can find and steal the Death Star plans, how did NRI fail to find the First Order, their far larger superweapon, their corporate suppliers, or the undoubtedly large movements of raw materials needed to build SKB in the first place?

>>49859723
Because raisins. No really. The NRI employees exclusively individuals with an intense dislike of raisins, so the NO hid everything in massive crates of raisins. All the ag-worlds that supplied the raisins are now experiencing a massive economic boom, but don't know their in collusion with the NO.

>>49859485
Hutts, Crime Bosses, Outer Rim/Wild Space Threats

>>49859823
>Hutts,
I want to see a Nucanon Darksaber as a pure comedy.

Where Leia is just "Are you bloody serious, ANOTHER Death Star?"

>>49859121
>Imperial Remnant hid its own military
>Thrawn is with them
>When the Failpublic and insane space nazis finish killing each other, he will seize power

>>49852759
sup /tg/, how are brobots doing in the meta now that Jumpmasters are nerfed and HoTR upcoming in a week?

I'm thinking of starting Scum beyond my "I bought this for crack shot" Kihraxz with Brobots.

Is the Crack Shot/HLC/Glitter/FCS/Autothrusters loadout still a competitive list? What about with Advanced Sensors, Push, and Manglers?

I'm debating getting this or more Tie Bombers.

>>49859723
Hard to get democratic states to mobilise for what could be seen as offensive war with something that's no longer a threat.

>>49859691
Now now... we're not /v/, here. We're much more dignified than that.

Instead we tell them "I say, good chap! Your bizarre intellectual quandaries, or lack thereof, shows that someone should fornicate your face!"

>>49860013

Another legitimate case to be made against democracy

>>49860036
Democracy is the worst form of government in the history of mankind, with exception to all those other ones we've tried.

>>49860005
Still early to say, honestly

>>49856167
You forget that he has characters talking about "space diapers" and "space waffles"

>>49860033
Noted and copied for the future, anon.

>>49860118
What exactly countered Brobots anyways? They are mostly scared of arc dodging aces, as they can get around their PS 6.

I'm wondering if anything popped up to make them not high-tier recently.

>>49857811
That looks cool as fuck, also awesome crosshair

>>49860148
Bump masters and tlt are (were?) big issues for them and palp aces often edge them out

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>>49856167
You're not serious right?

>>49859823
But what about the large scale battles that Star Wars is known for?

>>49860244
>large scale battles
Criminal Organizations in Star Wars have armies of their own anon.

>>49860148
Mostly aces, yeah.
Competent swarms could negate them mobility by blocking the crap out of them, but it was mostly a fair match.
4Y was all about killing a Y first turn, which the brobots could pull off with the aid of TL+glitterstim.
They had a lot of damage output so regen wasn't much of a treat as long as you didn't let them slip away.

I assume that nowadays they'd suffer a bit against defenders, speedy with lots of life to munch through and amazing action economy.

>>49856167
>>49856200
Even good authors sometimes do that, like John Jackson miller putting super 1984 style nigh-omnipresent surveillance into A New Dawn. It's topical to NSA shit, but this is STAR WARS where you can basically blunder around halls and cameras are enormous and bulky. (Because seriously, given a droidbrain surveillance in star Wars would be insane, The attentiveness of a computer with nearly as much independent thought as a Sentient who can say "That's not right") Even if we account for the Death Star letting everyone go, they certainly weren't trying to let Rey escape on the Starkiller Base.

(And there were "Holonet chatrooms" in Galaxy of FEAR where one of the characters learned about jedi stuff on an encrypted connection) Wendig's shit but I wouldn't quite say he's THAT shit.
>>49856207
It's good for spying

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>>49860292
That can rival the Empire? The only one I I can think of that might be close is the Black Sun.

>>49860319
Or shit for that reason*

>>49860296
>4Y was all about killing a Y first turn, which the brobots could pull off with the aid of TL+glitterstim.
How does a droid get high on glit?

>>49860077
It's arguable fascism never got a good run at it what with it being at almost perpetual war.

>>49860344
With creativity and steadfast determination.

>>49860329
The Zann Consortium is in NuCanon already, so they're a contender.

>>49860329
Hutts, Black Suns, Pirates, Bounty Hunter Guild, etc...

Now imagine they all come together under one banner to combat the republic trying to step on their territory.

>>49860329
There's the Zann consortium

>>49860329
>>49860383
>>49860404
In TCW it was implied that without Hutt permission, trying to go through their space would have led to an untennable third front to the war.

(Or the Hutts just kept the maps secret, I really try NOT to remember the pilot movie)

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>>49860383
>>49860404

I guess that could be cool. Now if only my favorite Legends characters, games, stories, and misc could become canon. At least it'll always be canon in my head.

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Hey, is shipfag around?

I'm wondering if they have any insight into the Royal Guard TIE/IN

>>49857194
Also, my TIE is best TIE because I have all this shit and don't slow down...

>>49860520

I'm not shipfag, but I've had my own thoughts on this before homebrewing stuff.

Simplest is to just take the TIE/IN, add Defense 1/1 and a hyperdrive. If it has any cost as all, bump the rarity like 2-3 and modify the base cost appropriately.

>>49855960
What did Daniel Craig do to the Empire?

>>49860729
It's okay he went through reconditioning and became a loyal FO subject later.

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>>49860729
Freed a prisoner

>>49860351
Saying fascism never got a good run because it was in perpetual war, is like saying we don't know how well a fire does when there's no oxygen. Fascism leads to war, and depends on it for survival.

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>>49860759
>Implying he's not just in deep cover as an NR sleeper agent

>>49860124why the fuck do you include the term "space" there.
They're just waffles. I think everyone would be okay with people eating waffles in star wars if they just called them waffles.

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>>49860777

>>49859473
>>49859445
Now I really, really, REALLY want Garm Bel-Iblis to come back and be the warhawk the New Republic deserves.

>>49860077

I would argue that democracy isn't the best form of government, it's just the best at surviving. Saying that democracy is the best because everything else collapsed is like saying Jim Neidhart is a better wrestler than Owen Hart was because the former is still alive.

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>>49860867
He probably watched too much DBZ Abridged and forgot that the "Space X" thing was meant to be a joke.

>>49860897
My wrestling knowledge is poor. Did Hart die because of his wrestling?

>>49860936
He died because of an equipment malfunction during a wrestling event.

>>49860936
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.

>>49860936
>>49860949

I guess a better example would be Eddie Guerrero and his nephew Chavo, since Eddie basically worked himself to death despite being a vastly superior wrestler to Chavo.

>>49860949
The Event was Over the Limit 99. Thank fuck that the cameras were focused on the announcers when the fall actually happened.

The way it was supposed to go was that Owen was going to be lowered, going to get stuck about 10 feet off the ring... flail around like a goof (he was the blue blazer at the time) and then comically drop as a pratfall.

What happened is that Owen Hart was scared of heights, moved the wrong way, malfunction happened, and he fell onto a turnbuckle from 80 feet.

>>49860949
Then that's a false comparison.
It would be like including a government system that collapsed because the entire country was destroyed by a volcano.

>>49860867
>bantha biscuits

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>>49860891
He needs to be played by based Mattis.

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>>49861027
SOMEBODY SAY BISCUITS????

>>49861027
Bantha's are an established part of the setting, so it works as a version of "cow patties".
Just adding space would be calling bantha's "space cows".

>>49861066
Bantha poodoo is a term used on Tattooine a lot.

>>49861091
weirdly in TPM it was a huttese bit translated as "bantha fodder", yet everybody seems to forget that part and assume it means "bantha shit" because of how it sounds

>>49861005

This is the logic a lot of NatSocs use- National Socialism didn't fail, it was destroyed by external circumstances. It's a relatively fair point: by losing the war and being utterly decimated, we'd never have gotten to see if the ideology would have held up on its own or collapsed.

The counter-arguement, of course, is that war with France and England to win back Germany's pride was an inherent part of the National Socialist platform due to their overwhelmingly romantic leanings.

>Romanticism: Not Even Once.

>>49861201
Well that's another clear example of false equivalence.
Wars are casually related to government systems. Volcanic eruptions are not.

>>49861253

Hence the counter-argument.

>>49860897
The argument isn't whether or not it's the best form of government. You're assuming things by jumping to conclusions. Democracy sucks. But it at least internalizes a lot of it's corruption, and creates strife and conflict within itself to challenge it's own courses of action. It's still fucking awful, but all other governments we've tried so far are objectively worse. There is bound to be a better alternative, but we won't find it until things destabilize and a new system takes over. That is the worst part about government systems... The best minds can theorize new systems and create utopian systems, but you must overthrow the previous government(s) in order to even see whether or not it works. And even then, the region and population may not even be the ideal location/climate for this new government.

>>49859444

the Kawaii-Tie

>>49860867
Why are you such a space sperg?

>>49861066
>>49861188
>>49861091
Maybe Banthas re-digest their food so it's both?

>>49861440
Keep your space hole shut. No one was even space talking to you.

>>49861436

TIE/kw

>>49861201

External wars or extortion seems to be a central tenet of national socialism, in that the state expends heavily on internal social and infrastructure programs, and in turn pays for it with external sources, rather than taxation. Possibly it could temporarily maintain its existance by using dissidents or undesirables as labour and looting their properties, but that as well is a very short-term solution.

>>49861478
If you can't handle the space heat, stay out of the space kitchen.

>>49861495
Maybe space you should choose your words more carefully?

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>>49860867
>>49860934
>>49861066
>>49861440
>>49861478
>>49861495
>>49861541

>>49861541
Maybe you should go space fuck yourself.

>>49860656
>>49860520

http://pastebin.com/yHhcTzxN

Something I shat out. Thoughts?

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So I made some names for some Sith Lords for a campaign and I did the thing where I called them Lord of "" like the Sith Lords in Kotor 2, but I was told they were too 'edgy'. How to remedy this?

>>49861378

You don't necessarily have to overthrow the government entirely. Mencius Moldbug has put a great deal of emphasis on the idea of building parallel institutions, something that his disciple (and possible future 4chan owner should Hiro ever decide to sell for real) Pax Dickinson has put a great deal of effort into.

>>49861700

There's no such thing as too edgy for Sith Lords imo

>>49861700
Remember that Lucas once suggested Darth Icky as a real Sith name.

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>>49861719
Lord of Fear
Lord of Sorrow
Lord of Pain
Lord of Hunger
Lord of Rage/Fury
Lord of Betrayal
Lord of End

I'm aware most of them are MGS3 bosses and that's the way I want it. If only I could fit The Boss in there.

>>49861700
Well, you going to give us the Edge Lord names so we can tell you how to improve?

>>49861781
Lord of Lords maybe? That's got kind of a The Boss feel.

>>49861781
You can also rip off Diablo for Lord of- titles
Lord of Hatred
Lord of Destuction
Lord of Terror
Lord of Lies
Lord of Sin
Maiden of Pain

>>49861849
>The Boss, also known as The Joy, The Mother of Special Forces, Mercury Lady and Voyevoda (Russian: Boeвoдa, "Warlord")

Joyous Lady, Mercury Lady, or Lord of War work.

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>>49861781
>>49861728
>>49861719
>>49861790
>>49861849
>>49861870

Lord of Fear - Darth Orr
Lord of Sorrow - Darth Ressus
Lord of Pain - Darth Scion
Lord of Hunger - Darth Nihlus
Lord of Rage/Fury - Darth Struca
Lord of Betrayal - Darth Traya
Lord of End - Darth Entrous

>>49861893
You're going to think Nick Cage before The Boss with that title.

>>49861700

Go with less standard titles then?

"First step of corruption"
"Raging Blade"
"Night of consuming terror"

Stuff like that?

Help me /swg/

I'm out of country right now(studying abroad), and I'm not getting back to the US till Christmas day. How the fuck do I avoid Rouge One spoilers for NINE DAYS?

>>49861781
Get a thesaurus and start cutting up words for Darth titles. Betrayal already has a Darth Traya, but you can spin something else off of there.

Instead of fear: abhorrence, despair, or horror. Tons of synonyms to use.

Hey guys...

I'm just wondering...

What's the point of slavery, when droids exist? Do some people just like to be assholes? Some maybe cultural assholes? I can't see a single economic benefit to slavery.

>>49861700

Translate into terrible latin. I've done this before.

"Scholar" feeds through google translate as "philologus". Thus, the "Lost Notes of Darth Philologus", or other things. Play with the spelling to make space-y as needed.

>>49862044
One of those requires you have a factory, the other neighbours.

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>>49862007
Thats a great idea thanks! But I'm going to stay with Darth Traya.

"Know that there was once a Darth Traya. And that she cast aside that role, was exiled, and found a new purpose. But there must always be a Darth Traya, one that holds the knowledge of betrayal. Who has been betrayed in their heart, and will betray in turn."

>>49862044
Either a droid is too expensive or owning slaves are seen as a status symbol

>>49862044
Slaves are an easy way for people to figure out who the baddies are.
The empire doesn't need to take Wookies as slaves but the children watching Rebels on Saturday morning are less likely to grow up as imperial sympathizers if storm troopers are mean to the things that look like Chewbacca.
Slavery is a tool. Not for the people in the Star Wars universe. But the people who control it.

>>49862044
Droids are generally not very good at adapting to things, slaves are better at that.

By the time a droid is as effective at adaptation of a sentient being they become far more trouble than they are worth.

>>49862044
Cheaper to produce unless you can afford massive scale.
If you're conquering their ready made.
Ego and status symbols.
Sex workers and similar, because apparently sexy droids are not a thing

>>49862044
George Lucas was just trying to find a way to make Anakin relatable for Black people.

>>49862109
>>49862120
>>49862139
>>49862160
>>49862175
So, in short, it's just assholes that like being assholes without much pragmatic benefit to it. Got it.

>>49862175
That and the single white mom

>>49861988
This one is full of potential for fun nicknames.
>The Champ
>The Ultimate Warrior
>Nature Boy
>Legend Killer
>Galactic Gold Medalist
>The Total Package
>The Million Credit Man
>The Beast Incarnate

>>49862193
That tends to historically be much of the reason people take slaves, yes.

>>49862197
>TFW no "Fifty Shades of Gray Jedi" novel for lonely space housewives.

>>49854242
>writes awful book
>thinks all the criticism is because theres a gay character in it despite nobody giving a fuck about that

>>49862175

The sad part is that I can see that being legit

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>>49854652
Yeah maybe, but mandos are like magnets for those weirdo tacticool manchildren who suck off their guns every night.
It's unfortunate.

>>49862238
Historically slavery was needed because we didn't have an industrial economy. At the same time at places where slavery is used in today (de facto slavery anyway, not the old chattel definition Star Wars uses) they don't have access to autonomous worker robots so there's that.

>>49862006
Get a filter and type rogue correctly

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>>49862203

I had no idea how much I wanted this until just this moment. It's perfect. Lightsiders and Darksiders locked in a mortal struggle.

It's perfect.

>>49854683

HERKILY JERKILY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49862203
So wrestling character nicknames
The cerebral assassin.
The lunatic fringe

>>49861719
>muh Curris Yarvin
Yeah, no. Take your b8 elsewhere. Even ignoring his other bullshit, his theories on land ownership are complete bunk. We should leave the adjudication and science of property boundary and ownership to the Land Surveyors.

>>49862306
>Rouge One: A Rosey Cheeks Story

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>>49862306
Oh. Oops. I really try not to do that.

>>49854242
Aftermath is like Jedi Prince with none of the charm.

>>49862348

I was focusing more on his ideas of disrupting democracy but okay clearly bringing up Moldbug was a touchy subject for you anon, sorry about that.

>>49862203
>The Ultimate Warrior

You don't have to change a damn thing about him, too.

All the ranting, all the raving? All the weird extra-planar shit?

It all fits!

"Oh, him? He's some dingo man warrior that worships extra-planar gods!"

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>>49862203
>>The Champ
Luke.
>>The Ultimate Warrior
Malgus.
>>Nature Boy
Valkorion.
>>Legend Killer
Boba Fett. Jango works too.
>>Galactic Gold Medalist
Turr Phennir.
>>The Total Package
Obi-Wan.
>>The Million Credit Man
Lando.
>>The Beast Incarnate
Hmm.. Savage Oppress? As stupid as that name is, and yes Paul Heyman would be Dooku or Ventress.

>>49862301
Historically, people used slavery because they were assholes. Take the egyptians, for example. And in this day and age, it is underdeveloped nations led by assholes that still use slavery.

One person owning another person as property, is by it's very nature the mark of someone (in power) who is an asshole.

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>>49862409
>Malgus.
He's too sane to be the Ultimate Warrior.

>>49862394
It's the land surveyor in me. Spend a decade working as a land surveyor, and you also would tell some shit-eating fascist programmer who thinks he's designed a better system of land ownership to go to fuck himself right on back to hell.

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Ooooohhhh Yyeeeeeaaahhh!

>>49862203
>>49862318
>>49862400
>>49862409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6wF999NaOg

Also the First Order would definitely be the Nexus. Couple of upstarts that desperately want to be like the people that trained them? Check. Some edgelord gains authority in them and eventually takes them over? Check, CM Punk/Kylo Ren.

>>49862409
>Savage Oppress
Still dumb even by star wars standards.
I mean there was Assajj Ventress, and I was like "cool, that sounds odd and somewhat threatening, but I'm not immediately reminded of an English word".
Then savage (pronounced funny) Oppress (not even bothering with a funny pronouncing)

what loot do i put in a sith temple?

>>49862576
Sith Holocrons, useless old Sith artifacts, Sith corpses, !!lightsabers!!, lightsaber parts.

>>49862576
A sith holocron and millions of tiny notes saying how bad and week the jedi are

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>>49862576
holocrons and sith swords

>>49862576
Hot Topic inventory

>>49862400
Is destrucity just an aspect of the dark side?

>>49862613
the holocron says the exact same thing as the nites

>>49862576
Lots of intricately carved stonework, and maybe some candles and old robes.

>>49862633
What? No.

Destrucity is the Truce between your Destiny and your Reality.

Accepting who you are with who you can be.

At worst, that's Neutral.

>>49862623
Sith Swords?

>>49862203

Also:

>The Innovator of Violence
>The Original Gangster
>Mister [day of the week] Night
>The Whole F'n Show
>The Whole Show F'n
>The Franchise
>The Crippler

And from the east:

>The Rainmaker
>The Man With the Worst Personality In The World
>The One-In-A-Century Ace
>Stardust Genius
>Anti-Aging Hero
>Blue Justice
>The Cleaner
>The Underboss
>The Machine Gun

>>49860810
t. globalist capitalist overlord

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DID THEY LIVE?! PLEASE TELL ME THEY LIVED. FOR GOD'S SAKE.

>>49862576
horrible Sith Alchemy concoctions, force-infused Sith artifacts, holocrons, more traps than you can shake a red ligthsaber at

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>>49862193
When slaves revolt, they don't start talking to the computers and shutting off the life support.

>>49862409
Yes, but who is Stardust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jhnvh6kulg

>>49862738
Well, the one to the far right in the pic is 99.999% confirmed dead. The rest i have no idea about

>>49862738
Rex did, so maybe... But likely no.

>>49862738
the idea of the arc was to show these were the kids anakin up and cut down

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>>49862738
Anon I hate to say this but they were probably all killed in cold blood. Gungi probably went out like a bro though.

>>49862673
It's Sith Alchemy, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>49862766
Cody Rhodes.

>>49862738
Hondo saved them anon.

;_;7

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>>49862814

>>49862814

>He wound up hating that gimmick and desperately wanting out but WWE wouldn't let him

feels bad, man

>>49862809
what even is sith alchemy? making stars explode?

>>49862859
No, that's KJAism.

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>>49862832
>>49862800
>>49862795
>>49862789
>>49862773
THEY COULD HAVE MADE IT. MAYBE THEY'LL GET THEIR OWN MOVIE. C'MON DISNEY, YOU LET ATLANTIS: THE LOST EMPIRE HAPPEN, YOU OWE US ONE.

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>>49862859
Intensified. Beef. Product.

>>49862923
This is what fanon is for.
Like BSG ending at the mid season break. Roland living and getting back with Lillith. Star Trek only releasing even numbered movies. Dukat dying in Waltz.

To love sci-fi is to fanon

>>49862795
Far too old. Most of them were borderline Padawans. Personally I like to pretend Hondo hid them away and sends them a stipend from each of his schemes.

>>49862973
>Dukat dying in Waltz.
But then Dukat doesn't get to call Kira and say "I fucked ur mum"

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>>49862859
Its Magic.

>>49863000

Basically, it's just using the force to warp the laws of physics and chemistry to make shit and give things properties they shouldn't ordinarily have.

>>49862297
Imperial Commando isn't real is it?

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>>49863172
It happened, just not in a form anyone actually wanted.

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>>49857194
My TIE is best TIE because minimalism

>>49863196
That cover looks cool, at least.
Game never

>>49863196
>501st.
>Not focused on Rex being awesome, with Ahsoka, Fives, Echo and Anakin as supporting cast
Utter fail

>>49863172
>>49863196
Yep Traviss had previously kept her worst aspects contained to her post-endor work, the last third of Repvom Order 66 and all of Impcom were shit.

>>49863172

I want it to be anon. I want it to be.

Maybe in an AoR campaign

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>>49857194
Because *not* TIE

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>>49863196
>>49863230
>>49863248
>>49863239

Did they at least find Sev?

>>49863230
Never ever anon. The single-player tactical shooter is dead in the water.

>>49863290
As of the latest point in Legends, no.

As of the latest point in nucanon, we have no clue if he even went missing in the first place, since the game itself is still noncanon and his latest appearance was pre-Kashyyyk.

>>49863290
The book focused a bunch on the team moping and other such bullshit.

It was a bad book.

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So my friend is telling me that because the Outrider appears in Disney Infinity, that makes both it and Dash canon. Looking it up, it just seems to be an easter egg, and doing more research shows that it pops up in the new season of Rebels. However, that also looks to be a easter egg, and is just a yt-2400 thrown in because the person who designed it is now working on Rebels. Lastly there was some sort of Outrider set at a Disney Star Wars celebration, which seems to have made IGN lose it's shit. Although that was posted last year and just looks to be IGN dropping the ball.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/30/shadows-of-the-empires-outrider-confirmed-as-star-wars-canon

Any thoughts on this?