2000AD - Slaine - Time Killer / Tomb of Terror pt. 2

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Previous thread >>49729457
"The Tomb of Terror" begins here >>49736140
Last page >>49740853

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The mesmeric power of Dragons first came up in Dragonheist >>49722183, when Slaine and Ukko first met Nest and tried to steal her dragon The Knucker.

Nidhug is obviously taken from Nidhogg, the dragon which gnaws at the roots of the World Tree Yggdrasil in Norse mythology.

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Whoops, should have spoilered that last bit. And put it with this page. Oh well.

>>49741000
Shakaranon you are truly a god among anons.

>>49741025
Barbarians are obviously fond of leather pants.

>>49741186
Barbarians are fond of many things. Usually not pants though.

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I should be able to dig out some of the Diceman specials. They were gamebooks similar to Fighting Fantasy written by 2000AD staff and sometimes featuring the comic's characters (although not always, as seen in the classic "You are Ronald Reagan in: Twilight's Last Gleaming", where they aim is to prevent nuclear war from breaking out while preventing your sanity score from getting too HIGH). There are at least a couple about Slaine.

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>>49741186
That could be his Hero Harness - it prevents his MIGHTY SERPENT OF EARTH POWER from BURSTING FORTH to the RUINATION AND CALAMITY OF ALL BEFORE IT.

Wink wink nudge nudge

>>49741233
>"You are Ronald Reagan in: Twilight's Last Gleaming"
Is this one not practically impossible or something?

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This handsome fella is THE GULEDIG. The triskal symbol of Slough Feg and his evil drunes was revealed to be based on his warped body.

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>>49741393
That may have been the point. There's one for Maggie Thatcher too but off the top of my head I can't remember if it was ever printed.

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In the last but one thread an anon was disappointed how weedily the God-worm Crom Cruach was depicted. Hopefully this chapter makes up for it at least a little bit.

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I like how the Cythron's mindbending horror is portrayed here in slightly more abstract ways with what I assume is Elfric's true form on the left opposite the skeletons.

How ever is Slaine going to get out of this one?

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Oh that's right, deeds of great violence. Doi!

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Adventurer logic

>>49741697
2000AD really had a period where it mastered the heavy metal band poster/airbrushed on van look.

Also I legit love Elric as a villain.

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And lo did Slaine return to the realms of Man and continue to tread the spiral path of his Destiny. North he would go! North to the lands of his birth, north to the kin he left behind to go awandering and north to the perils yet undreamed of. But such is a tale for another time.


That time being an hour or two away, with any luck.

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But we've still got a bit of book-keeping to do

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If you played along at home and survive, well done...

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You are officially warped!

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>>49741910
This was in 1986, so really its the start of that entire period. Just a few years later you had Fabry firing on all cylinders and starting to work in colour alongside The Biz and a host of other fantastic artists.

Of course they all left for America shortly after that and we were left with the dark ages known as the Ninteen-Nineties, but no golden age lasts forever. Better to celebrate that those days had ever been than to mourn their passing!

>>49742038
I saw the prog 2000 acknowledged the dark days of the 90s some.

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http://www.mediafire.com/file/samvekqf16mwt4s/Slaine_2_Time_Killer.cbr

I'm not sure if the printed collections include the game pages or not. Probably not, as they're more of a curiosity than anything else these days, but still of some value I think.

I'll have a poke about and see if I can find the diceman books. Even if they don't get posted in full they're worth a look. The omens look good for doing at least some of Slaine: The King tonight too.

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>>49742072
The quality issues are a bit overblown, but there are some absolute stinkers there. In an odd sort of way even the good stuff has become quite dated, even compared to the stories that are actually a lot older.

If you've got the time to watch it, the 2000AD documentary "FUTURE SHOCK: The story of 2000AD" goes over it in some detail with interviews from a lot of the people who were involved. If you want the blow-by-blow drama the book "Thrill Power Overload" covers the history of the comic to about 2006 in a lot more detail and with much more about the day-to-day he-said-she-said drama, but you have to bear in mind that it's by one of the editors from the most reviled period in the comic's life, which does colour it a bit.

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>>49742254
and just for fun, this was the Arch-Maniac back in the day with Kev O'Neil, the original artist and co-creator of Nemesis the Warlock.

bump, thanks for the story

If I remember right, the artwork starts improving dramatically pretty soon.

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Okay, going to have to do this quite quickly with minimal commentary because I'm falling asleep.

Diceman games:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/al69ijdktj1thri/slaine_-_Cauldron_of_Blood-_from_diceman_1.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/file/916p1w8wjonoln3/slaine_-_Dragoncorpse-from_diceman_2.cbr
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tfqk724yh4vswzy/slaine_-_The_Ring_of_Danu-from_diceman_4.cbr

The last one, The Ring of Danu is worth skimming at the very least even if you're not interested in the game aspects because it's the first time Slaine meets the Earth Godess in the flesh, a fact referenced in the next proper story.

Speaking of, I'm sorry to say this isn't the main event yet. Slaine the King, trailed at the end there >>49741947 is illustrated by Glenn Fabry, links really well from the end of the last story and like >>49743982 says is really well drawn. I could easily believe that this one was churned out quickly to cover a gap in the schedule and let Pat Mills mess about with his own unique version of pagan mysticism. The story itself is a mix of the labours of Hercules and bits and bobs of Arthurian and celtic mythology, so there might be some fodder for a GM's quest folder.

Good work, Shakaranon.
Just dropping a comment to answer your question to me on the last thread.
Yes, the Megazine was in my native language, Brazilian-Portuguese, and it was published from around 2012 to exactly 2015.

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Just realised they inked in Slaine's treasure trail on the cover of what was still basically a kid's comic. Ha.

>>49744139
Well I'll be. Thanks for the info!

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Wot Pat Learned this week and had to put into something.

This zodiac temple thing is, depending on your outlook, a fanciful piece of modern personal spirituality or total cobblers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_zodiac
There's better sources than wikipedia for this, but its late, I'm tired and its so delightfully insane I wanted to share.


>Theory
The theory was first put forward in 1935 by Katherine Maltwood, an artist who "discovered" the zodiac in a vision, and held that the "temple" was created by Sumerians about 2700 BC. Interest was re-ignited in 1969 by Mary Caine in an article in the magazine Gandalf's Garden.

The landscape zodiac plays an important role in many occult theories. It has been associated with the Celtic Saints, Grail legend and King Arthur (according to some legends buried in Glastonbury).

>Criticism
The idea was examined by two independent studies, one by Ian Burrow in 1975 [1] and the other in 1983 by Tom Williamson and Liz Bellamy,[2] using the standard methods of landscape historical research. Both studies concluded that the evidence contradicted the idea. The eye of Capricorn identified by Maltwood was a haystack. The western wing of the Aquarius phoenix was a road laid in 1782 to run around Glastonbury, and older maps dating back to the 1620s show the road had no predecessors. The Cancer boat (not a crab as would be expected) is made up of a network of eighteenth century drainage ditches and paths. There are some Neolithic paths preserved in the peat of the bog formerly comprising most of the area, but none of the known paths match the lines of the zodiac features. There is no support for this theory, or for the existence of the "temple" in any form, from conventional archaeologists or mainstream historians.

~

Still worth looking at for something like Mage the Awakening/Ascension if you want to do something involving Glastonbury or British myths. Or maybe rural English Unknown Armies.

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Or Pendragon, come to think of it. That should be an obvious one.

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Ukko you filthy beast

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Oh Soth straw feminists

>>49744157
I feel like 2000AD has always given few fucks for censorship.

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This hasn't really come up a lot yet (possibly because its something Pat Mills decided after he began the series) but Danu isn't just "Thunder Thighs" the neolithic goddess based on artefacts like the Venus of Willendorf but a triple Goddess in the classic Maiden-Mother-Crone mould

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>>49744395
They've never given the slightest damn about violence, but they only really started pushing the boundaries in other ways in the mid-to-late 80s, and there was nary a nipple till the 90s (when, predictably, they went overboard). Probably to do with the original audience growing up

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Just as an example off the top of my head, obscenity was a much bigger deal, which is the reason for all the fanciful cursing. Stomm, stakk, snekk, drokk and Soth in Slaine, that sort of thing, all because they couldn't print words people actually say.

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Egad!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H43204V0p04

And so the companions returned to the Eternal Fortress, but for Slaine and Ukko it would only be a temporary stop. Slaine had a date with destiny...

Which we'll see tomorrow, with any luck. Night all!

Thanks again Shakaranon

>>49741746
Dumb and yet amazing.

We love you Shakara

>>49744761
Fucking amazing read. Found this thread today, went back all the way to the first, came back here.

I'm glad they returned to normal Celtic fantasy, and didn't keep the Leysers. It was fun, and they can return to that - but let's keep them separate if equal.

Wee bump

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5LdqHi4FMQ

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Avag duu duuu duu, push pineapple, shake the tree.

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I wonder who this could be?

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Soth!

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We saw the World of Dev-els and Light-els in Time Kller, with Elfric and Pluke representing their respective races.

You cannot imagine how much Pat Mills kicks himself for being unable to find an El-pun to fit the World of the Dead.

>>49741000
Fuck, how did I manage to miss these threads for three days. To the archive it is!

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>Kiss my axe!

A little insight into Slaine's character.


Way back at the start of the series, Slaine's Axe, Brainbiter, had a large and fairly primitive stone head, and Slaine would often sneer at weaklings who used iron or steel. Towards the end of Dragonheist, he smashed the axe into a million pieces trying to take out a dragon's diamond hard skull >>49722519. Now its back with a nice new metal head, because Slaine takes his violence very seriously and can be quite pragmatic (so long as you never bring him up on it)

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>>49752432
Well at least you're here now!

Part One

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Oopsydaisy

Thread #1: Warrior's Dawn to Sky Chariots Part One >>49711205
Thread #2: The Sky Chariots Part Two to Time Killer Part One >>49715579
Thread #3: Time Killer Part Two to Tomb of Terror Part One >>49729457
Thread #4: Tomb of Terror Part Two to Slaine the King - This one!

>>49752497
Quick question, my buddy wants to read this at work but his work wifi is blocking 4chan images.

Got any suggestions as to how he can get around it?

>>49752673
Nevermind, his l33t proxy skills got around it.

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>>49752673
Well, he could always BUY the books and read them at his leisure wherever he pleased! Alternately I did put up download links at the end of chapters

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The archives also usually work, at least for a time
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49711205/

Had to combine a couple of pages to make sure we sneak in under the image limit. We've seen all these stories in previous threads - this was done so new readers could get up to speed quickly for this miniseries.

>>49752712
>links

Was there a link for Tomb of Terror? I think I missed it.

How odd, thought I'd done that already
http://www.mediafire.com/file/lp91911627qky5l/2000AD_%23447-461_Sl%C3%A1ine_-_The_Tomb_of_Terror_%28With_Game%29.cbr

and
http://www.mediafire.com/file/10q6vls9p6y9dom/2000AD_%23493-499_Sl%C3%A1ine_-_Spoils_of_Annwn.cbr

I'm doing tea for the family, so I'll be back in a few hours.

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New Thread thataway >>49754894