/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest

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11th October in military history:

1531 – Huldrych Zwingli is killed in battle with the Roman Catholic cantons of Switzerland.
1649 – Sack of Wexford: After a ten-day siege, English New Model Army troops (under Oliver Cromwell) stormed the town of Wexford, killing over 2,000 Irish Confederate troops and 1,500 civilians.
1776 – American Revolutionary War: Battle of Valcour Island – On Lake Champlain a fleet of American boats is defeated by the Royal Navy, but delays the British advance until 1777.
1797 – Battle of Camperdown: Naval battle between Royal Navy and Royal Netherlands Navy during the French Revolutionary Wars. The outcome of the battle was a decisive British victory.
1862 – American Civil War: In the aftermath of the Battle of Antietam, Confederate General J.E.B. Stuart and his men loot Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, during a raid into the north.
1865 – Paul Bogle led hundreds of black men and women in a march in Jamaica, starting the Morant Bay rebellion.
1899 – Second Boer War begins: In South Africa, a war between the United Kingdom and the Boers of the Transvaal and Orange Free State erupts.
1912 – First Balkan War: The Greek Army liberates the city of Kozani.
1941 – Beginning of the National Liberation War of Macedonia.
1942 – World War II: Battle of Cape Esperance – On the northwest coast of Guadalcanal, United States Navy ships intercept and defeat a Japanese fleet on their way to reinforce troops on the island.
1954 – First Indochina War: The Viet Minh take control of North Vietnam.
1972 – A race riot occurs on the United States Navy aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk off the coast of Vietnam during Operation Linebacker.
1987 – Start of Operation Pawan by the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka.

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It is 74 years since the Battle of Cape Esperance, the second of four major surface engagements during the Guadalcanal campaign. It took place at the entrance to the strait between Savo Island and Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands. Cape Esperance is the northernmost point on Guadalcanal, and the battle took its name from this point.

In early October, the Japanese planned a major reinforcement convoy for their garrison on Guadalcanal. The force consisted of six destroyers and two seaplane tenders. In addition, a force of three cruisers and two destroyers was sent with orders to shell Henderson Field while the troops were delivered. Departing early on October 11, both forces proceeded down "The Slot" towards Guadalcanal.

While the Japanese were planning their operations, the Allies made plans to reinforce the island as well. Departing New Caledonia on October 8, ships carrying the US 164th Infantry moved north towards Guadalcanal. Screening this convoy was Task Force 64, commanded by Rear Admiral Norman Hall. Consisting of the cruisers USS San Francisco, USS Boise, USS Helena, and USS Salt Lake City, TF64 also included the destroyers USS Farenholt, USS Duncan, USS Buchanan, USS McCalla, and USS Laffey. Initially taking station off Rennell Island, Hall moved north on the 11th after receiving reports that Japanese ships had been sited in The Slot.

With the fleets in motion, Japanese aircraft attacked Henderson Field during day, with the goal of preventing Allied aircraft from locating and attacking their ships. As he moved north, Hall, aware that the Americans had faired badly in previous night battles with the Japanese, crafted a simple battle plan. Ordering his ships to form a column with destroyers at the head and rear, he instructed them to illuminate any targets with their searchlights so that the cruisers could fire accurately. Hall also informed his captains that they were open fire when the enemy was sited rather than waiting for orders.

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>>49729083
Approaching Cape Hunter on the northwest corner of Guadalcanal, Hall, flying his flag from San Francisco, ordered his cruisers to launch their float planes at 10:00 PM. An hour later, San Francisco's float plane sighted the Japanese force off of Guadalcanal. Expecting more ships to be sighted, Hall maintained his course northeast, passing to the west of Savo Island. Reversing course at 11:30, some confusion led to the three lead destroyers (Farenholt, Duncan, and Laffey) being out of position. About this time, the remaining Japanese ships began appearing on the American radars.

Initially believing these contacts to be the out of position destroyers, Hall took no action. As Farenholt and Laffey accelerated to reassume their proper positions, Duncan moved to attack the approaching Japanese ships. At 11:45, Goto's ships were visible to the American lookouts and Helena radioed asking permission to open fire using the general procedure request, "Interrogatory Roger" (meaning "are we clear to act"). Hall responded in the affirmative, and his surprise the entire American line opened fire. Aboard his flagship, Aoba, Rear Admiral Aritomo Gotō was taken by complete surprise.

Over the next few minutes, Aoba was hit more than 40 times by Helena, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, Farenholt, and Laffey. Burning, with many of its guns out of action and Goto dead, Aoba turned to disengage. At 11:47, concerned that he was firing on his own ships, Hall ordered a ceasefire and asked his destroyers to confirm their positions. This done, the American ships resumed firing at 11:51 and pummeled the cruiser Furutaka. Burning from a hit to its torpedo tubes, Furutaka lost power after taking a torpedo from Buchanan. While the cruiser was burning, the Americans shifted their fire to the destroyer Fubuki sinking it.

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>>49729107
As the battle raged, the cruiser Kinugasa and destoryer Hatsuyuki turned away and missed the brunt of the American attack. Pursuing the fleeing Japanese ships, Boise was nearly hit by torpedoes from Kinugasa at 12:06 AM. Turning on their search lights to illuminate the Japanese cruiser, Boise and Salt Lake City immediately took fire, with the former taking a hit to its magazine. At 12:20, with the Japanese retreating and his ships disorganized, Hall broke off the action.

Later that night, Furutaka sank as result of battle damage, and Duncan was lost to raging fires. Learning of the bombardment force's crisis, the transport column detached four destroyers to its aid after disembarking his troops. The next day, two of these, Murakumo and Shirayuki, were sunk by aircraft from Henderson Field.

The Battle of Cape Esperance cost Hall the destroyer Duncan and 163 killed. In addition, Boise and Farenholt were badly damaged. For the Japanese, losses included a cruiser and three destroyers, as well as 341–454 killed. Also, Aoba was badly damaged and out of action until February 1943. The Battle of Cape Esperance was the first Allied triumph over the Japanese in a night battle. A tactical victory for Hall, the engagement had little strategic significance as the Japanese was able to deliver their troops. In assessing the battle, many of the American officers felt that chance had played a key role in allowing them to surprise the Japanese. This luck would not hold, and Allied naval forces were badly defeated on November 20, 1942, at the nearby Battle of Tassafaronga.

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>>49729129
The naval battles of the Guadacanal campaign are perfect for hot ship-on-ship action in WW2. You have cruisers and destroyers slugging it out at very close ranges in constricted waters, it's intense and the skill of individual captains becomes all-important. There's no shortage of wargaming material covering the Pacific; the default seems to be Victory At Sea but General Quarters is also recommended. Check out our Naval Wargaming folder for more specifics.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/t9hl2gcg44xsu5r/Osprey+-+CAM+255+-+The+Naval+Battles+for+Guadalcanal+1942.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ozdpdo8zsy42aq5/Osprey+-+DUE+022+-+USN+Cruiser+vs+IJN+Cruiser.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/xdek7ewdgda3ga5/Osprey+-+DUE+048+-+USN+Destroyer+vs+IJN+Destroyer.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o3mczqlnl55ok3w/Osprey+-+ELI+080+-+The+US+Navy+in+World+War+II.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ahs3alq9cpmc68m/Imperial+Japanese+Navy+in+the+Pacific+War.pdf

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Our non-combatant project rolls over on the 15th/16th

Who was the coolest nation in the Seven Years War and why was it Prussia?

Ded thread is ded.

P.S. Why aren't a lot of young people into historicals?

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Needs more pikes in this thread.

>>49731287
boring

>>49731299
What does /hwg/ think of baroque?
I have had a few games over the last week and I really like it. I wish there was a bit more depth to the army lists but they work well for what they are. What are your thoughts on it?
No pic cause phone.

>>49731412
Not sure what more you'd want out of the army lists given there's a decent variety of unit choices as well as the option to add thematically appropriate additional traits to units? It's about as in-depth as you get for this kind of thing, as far as I've seen anyway.

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>>49731287
I think you'll find this general has a large number of twenty somethings in it.

Hot diggety

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GameExpo 2.0 in San Antonio this past weekend.
Check Your 6! Jet Age

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>>49732437

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>>49732478

>>49732460

Those MiG-28s are great.

>>49732563

The fuck is wrong with you? There's no such thing as a MIG-28, they all have odd numbers. Those are fucking Northrop F-5's, and they're in a completely retarded paint scheme. The only F-5 operator that isn't a US ally is Iran, and they're in a 3-colour desert camo pattern. There's no historical basis for F-5's ever fighting against F-14's at all, so those pictures shouldn't even be here.

>>49732798
>In the 1986 film Top Gun, Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell (Tom Cruise) squared off against MiG-28s with no NATO reporting name and of unspecified nationality. These were nothing more than American F-5N Tiger IIs acting" as MiG-28s were painted flat black and their markings was a red star to indicate their origin from the Soviet Bloc, and retained those paint jobs after production closed.[6] The paint also increased the aircraft's visibility, a plus for filmmaking. The nation flying these MiG-28s is not specified whatsoever in the film. Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that they were originally intended to be North Korean. In the script, American pilots are warned that the MiG-28 is armed with the Exocet, a French-made anti-ship missile not found in the inventory of Soviet forces

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_military_aircraft#MiG-28

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>>49732798

...you are the person I most want to set on fire today. Go watch Top Gun. Now.

>>49732798
Do you have a brain injury?

>>49732478
>>49732508
I just never can get over how simple but effective those missile markers are. They always put a smile on my face.

>>49732882
>>49732849

I'm not about to waste my time with american propaganda.

>>49732798
Hi shitposter-kun

>>49731803
I dunno if I'd call /hwg/ "large" in any sense of the word.

>>49732971
see
>>49732971

>>49732960

They are dammed impressive. How do they attach to the stands? I don't play modern aerials, but I'm going to use those pics and write down how to make/use them just in case I ever do pick that sort of game up.

>>49732977
some of us individually may be a big on the 'large' size.....

>>49733045
I'm honestly not sure. I'd guess it was clipped to the flight peg somehow, but if you were using ball and magnet donuts like some of the X-Wing folks do, there would probably be enough metal in the pipe cleaner to keep it there. I'd be interested to know for sure myself.

>>49733423
Correct. Magnets hold the planes to the stands, and missiles to the planes.

Cross-posted this in the FoW thread, do you guys know of any resource of WW2 [crew-applied] turret/nose art?

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>>49733495

I have a book on nose art for you, it specifically focuses only on American stuff, but does cover from WW1 to the present day. Lots of lush colour photographs.

https://mega.nz/#!jptSWBJR!Bdj4L1kk5Wdgk5py-pif3Or692QAs9CjHwBO_7_t0uI

>>49732437
>>49732460
>>49732478
>>49732508

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

>>49734514

Thanks! Also, nice pic, very art deco.

>>49733183
For you.

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TMP is down for maintenance again.

What a surprising twist of events.

In the meanwhile, finished my Zulu War brits for now, maybe except for a commander base (but in Death in the Dark Continent, the army is playable). Now to paint 200 Zulus...

>>49735052
>Now to paint 200 Zulus...

I don't see how that's hard. You know they make spray primer in black, right?

>>49735052
Nice man, they look great :)

armicalement
armand

>>49735092
If only the Esci Zulus wasn't full of feathers, and didn't have big shields that can be red/white...

>>49735093
Not proper armand posting.

You are supposed to post pictures of someone elses content with the quote
"Nice!

amicalement
armand"

when people comment you post either

"Glad you like them boys!

amicalement
armand"

or

"*Smile*

amicalement
armand"

>>49731486
They are really petty and minor gripes in that there are little variety in the choices themselves. Foot usually come in two or three varied forms; bad, OK and maybe, good. Not saying the variety is bad, just I always see that period as having great transitions in equipment styles and tactics. The lists as a whole show things to be quite samey across the period. Or that's how it feels to me. Again minor and personal. I still enjoy the game and plan to play more of it soon.

>>49729625
>5 days
woah I better finish off

One of my favourite bits about historical wargaming are the miniatures. Like they are usually done so well. It's not like 40k were people regularly have unpainted or poorly painted armies. But I am curious, when have you guys seen some terribly painted historical miniatures?

>>49736034
Never in person as it happens, but regularly on facebook groups.

>>49735306
Who exactly is armand? How long has he been posting on tmp? What nationality is he? Does he have mental issues?

>>49736044
See, this is why I tend to avoid facebook groups. (Plus I'm scared it'll be a bunch of grumpy old guys)

I'm sure this stupis SS army I'm painting up will be worthy of a bad painting award when it's done though.

>>49736054
>Mental issues
>TMP

You betcha, it's called autism.

>>49736102
>>49736054

Pretty sure he is 60+ and just a nice guy with to much free time.

>>49736097
>>49736034
>>49736044

These groups are quite nice actually.

And even if the paintjob is not that great, you can tell most people at least tried to do it as good as they can.

>>49736222
I'm just ragging. Outisde of website design and general fuddy duddery the TMP has some rather knowledgeable posters.

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New arrivals!

>>49736408
Nice. Please read Broken Legions first and tell me how it is.

>>49736233
Yeah, the groups are fine, you just get a real mix of painting ability. Not that it even really matters, but historicals isn't just experts making stunning boards and figures as some messageboards might suggest

>>49736421
Will do. Theres a few AAR/Battle Reps on Lead Adventure.

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>>49736455
>theres a few AAR/Battle Reps on Lead Adventure.

Thanks, will head there right away


I promised to post a picture of my Blitzkrieg germans once i've done some more painting besides the primer so here they are.. Most base colors are in place and i applied a first wash.
I also tried a light grey jacket with darker pants on one of the miniatures but i didn't liked that look at all so i'm going with dark jacket + light grey trousers.

>inb4 mold line on the hand of the most right soldier.. its fixed.

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We now have all 47 entries in the Osprey Weapon line, the final titles being: MP38 and MP40 Submachineguns, Soviet Submachine Guns of WW2, Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck, the MP5, Browning 30-cal Machineguns, Winchester Lever-Action Rifles, and M14 Battle Rifle.

https://mega.nz/#F!e8sjzY4B!vgrkMoZgwd2cpN-aoNLT8A

Whoever shared the /k/ Mega folder might like to link this one back to them so they can add it to their folder!

Going on start on completing the Raid and Duel lines next; I already have at least half of each.

>>49737032
>all those winchester yellowboys
fuck yes

>>49737032
nice. that soviet smg one will be handy.


Thanks for your effort M8

>>49736498
those look good, keep at it! what are you using for your bases?

>>49737512
bases are vallejo texture paint (brown earth) and a bit of agrax earthshade.
It got a bit messy at some of the boots but overall i like how it turned out.

>>49736498
I'm the guy who requested them. Thanks man. They look very pretty.

>>49735052
Okay, honest question, what's the gameplay appeal of the Anglo-Zulu wars? Historically I'm a huge fan and I love the history of both the Zulu and the Brits but there's so little unit variety particularly on the Zulu side who get something like:

Married Zulu
Unmarried Zulu
Possibly a horse or two if you really want to
stretch it
zulus with guns

It just seems so repetitive.

>>49736054
>How long has he been posting on tmp?
At least a decade.

>What nationality is he?
Argentinian.

>Does he have mental issues?
Almost certainly some obsessive-compulsive tendencies.

>>49736034
>But I am curious, when have you guys seen some terribly painted historical miniatures?
Whenever I look at my own.

>>49731287
There is zero wargame exposure in my hometown, historical or otherwise. I would have loved it a lot more when I was younger but had just never heard of it.

>>49731287
My local club is attended weekly by a girl who I think it's about 17 and plays ww2 or ancients.

I barely go down there once a month, she puts me to shame.

>>49731287
because history class in schools do a great job in showing young students how boring history is.
History is usually one of the most hated subjects if you ask around among students.

You need to be a special kind of child to like history from early on i think

Besides that, it isn't helping that historical games are mainly populated by men in dad or even grandpas age.. a 15-20 year old guy will have trouble to get into such a group for sure, even if he wants to.

>>49731287
this
>>49738362

I love history but in school it was so boring cause the method of teaching was "take this dull textbook from the 70's and read it all then copy down all these pages of information" except for one teacher who made it fun and engaging then he left

Also speaking for myself I'm getting into bolt action and I get quite mixed up with stuff like early, mid, late war patterns and equipment along with trying to get the uniform colours accurate. Compared to 40k where it was just "take these marines and orks, paint them up and cram loads of equipment on them"

>>49736102
>>49736222
>>49736293
Isn't TMP run by an old guy and his filipino ladyboys?

>>49738265
Unfortunately the other (later, foreign) colonial stuff is more fun, but tends to have less bright red coats. Really, it's Zulu that does it. The film.

Does anyone have a PDF of Force on Force Bush Wars?

>>49738683
yes. so?

>>49738880
I have a physical copy but no scanner. the best I could do would be to take photos of some pages.

>>49738265
I got two boxes of Esci Redcoats and too much time on my hands, that's the appeal desu.

>>49738911
Imagine if you could run a forum with your mighty shemale army.

I know you would. We all would.

>>49738267
>>But I am curious, when have you guys seen some terribly painted historical miniatures?
>Whenever I look at my own.
same here

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>>49740172
speaking of terribly painted minis.. i added some highlights to the uniform

pic related, extra terrible without day- but with flashlight. Blitzkrieg with Blitzlicht so to speak.

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>>49740151
I think I'd not be running a forum. Maybe something like a bar.

The problem though with TMP's method is that the set up is, if I remember correctly as it's been a few years since all the shit kicked off, that the way it is done is duplicitous, potentially abusive and probably rather illegal.

>>49740262
A historical wargaming bar with blackjack and traps.

I see business potential in it.

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>>49740274
Would have to be general boardgames though to actually have any profit potential.
Bar, Boardgames, Blackjack.

Thought this being entirely a thought experiment I still would be against exploiting the transgendered staff and expect it'd actually be quite difficult to manage without the endeavour being seen as a front for an informal brothel/pimping service rather than a boardgames bar with a peculiar discriminatory hiring practice that would probably have to be set up in co-ordination with some charities as a supporting effort to help transgendered people have a stable job and non-exploitative work environment

>>49729026
I think you forgot to copypaste one line, OP:

https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ

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Just got with two Agano-class cl's and a Kitakami-class cl. No bases yet, because I need to make another batch sometime soon.

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Picked up the Perry's 2nd Afghan War box and I'm pretty happy with the results. Painting half in redcoats and the other in Khaki.

>>49741082
Some mouldlines on the helmet and they look a bit too dark, plus I'd put some more effort into the white straps, but otherwise they look fine, and they'll look great once based.

Makes me a bit sad I started the period in 1:72, but then I remember no plastic cavalry.

>>49741520
I'm fixing the plastic cavalry problem by appropriating the Perry's ACW box and doing some headswaps and adding lance arms from the WotR light cavalry box.

>>49741520
>>49741571
Plastic cavalry are in the pipeline, aren't they?

>>49741742
I haven't seen anything alluding to it. Honestly I'd rather have some plastic Afghans or something.

>>49741813
I coulda sworn I saw something on the Perry Facebook page.

>>49740260
>4143x1405
resizing photos aside, pretty cool.

>>49741082
No offense, but the common wisdom that you can fix anything by dousing a model with agrax earth shade is not correct.

As the above comment notes the cross belts are extremely messy, and in fact both have red on them. Other parts are a touch messy too, but it really stands out on the crossbelts because we KNOW they are supposed to be stark white.

You could also have taken the bobble off the top of that bayonette, it really stands out.

I don't want to be discouraging so please don't take offense at the criticism, it's just that you are obviously so nearly there that with just a few small corrections those would be really nice.

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>>49729083
Why do Naval battle maps get me so hard?

>>49742408
Because you have a weird fetish.

To be honest if you paid the right bribes you could open a trap fifty bar in Bangkok, Siem Reap or Hanoi. And with a /tg/ theme you could guarantee the 'Nam vet sex trade... Trade.

>>49740260
Only issue I see is that the faces are a bit flat, try using a basecoat with a second lighter coat to hit raised areas.

Alright two part question.

Getting my feet into naval wargaming soon specifically World War II. What good rulesets are there? I read Victory at Sea but the "engagement level" instead of proper points as a method of balance seems a bit odd and would favor certain weapons over others, does the mechanic work well? Are there better systems than Victory at Sea?

Second question. Was looking to host "The Battle Off Samar" with my group, does anyone have any ideas or examples of how to balance this? I was thinking a turn limit on the Japanese a mechanic where if the Americans put enough damage on the battleships the US wins might force them to play conservatively and use the battleships less, giving the Americans a chance.

Any thoughts on either?

Are there any good WW2 aerial games that don't need hard to find minis?

Also need suggestions on Bolt Action armies, who can do smaller but stronger forces?

>>49742826
Naval War is a currently-in-development but already quite playable living ruleset for WW2 naval combat.

It tries to go for a similar level of detail as VaS, but does it better imo.

navalwar.boards.net is the official site.
You can download the current version of the rules there if you register.
Currently, not everything in the war is statted and not all of the statted stuff has points values/army list appearances, since that's a lot of work.
However, you can request stat cards for various ships etc.

just shook a paintpot with the lid off lads.

dont do that.

>>49743247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahcuPHVz6aM

>>49743266
no bully please

>>49743247
Ouch. Nothing of importance harmed, I hope?

>>49743247
I've done that. It's why my walls, Monitors, Keyboard and computer now have blobs of yellow on them.

>>49743358
Incredibly it all landed on myself, my desk, and the model I was painting.

>>49743455
I fear my dressing gown may forever be slightly brown in parts now.

Alas.

>>49743508
That model is now camouflaged for a war in a Jackson Pollock!

What if Napoleon was successful in Russia?

>>49744402
Successful in what way? If he had beaten the Russian Army more thoroughly? Nicholas still wouldn't have given a fuck. The French advance was completely unsustainable, Russian army or not he physically couldn't occupy the country to enforce his demands,

There wasn't really anything Napoleon could have done to prevent his army from starving, short of changing his attack or bringing less men, even early on attrition was high, the campaign was pretty much doomed to start.

I guess maybe he could've inspired the local nobles to act against Nicholas, though I'm not sure this would have done much, it's not the 1400s, the locals aren't the major source of the armies.

Are there any WW1/WW2/Modern setting wargames that have campaign systems where units can improve and upgrade? Seems to be something relegated only to fantasy stuff. Would love a historical with those things though.

>>49744503

Last Man in Normandy/Last Man in Kursk. It's kind of like Mordheim, and I highly recommend it. It's in the OP folders.

>>49744618
Five Men in Normandy/Kursk*

>>49744637

Dammit. That.

By way of apology, here's the direct download link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/lvhspeqenq3ibwv/Five+Men+In+Normandy.pdf

Ace, I'll check it out!

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>>49742963

You could just use chits or proxies if you can't swing the minis, they'll work just as well.

Anyone heard or read much about swordpoint?

>>49747078
Nope, who is it by and what is it about?

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Are wooden bases okay? I'm asking less from an aesthetic standpoint (seeing as how it won't matter once they're flocked) and more from a practical one. I just don't know if they react poorly to certain glues or anything like that.

>>49747360
Well, they're popular for good reason.

Only glue I've seen them react poorly to is UHU and that's got real limited use in wargaming. Well, and of course polycement does nothing, because it's not a plastic.

>>49747393
Okay, that's cool. I just wanted to make sure glue wouldn't eat through them or something.

On a somewhat related note, are lead minis of the 6mm variety safe so long as I don't suck on them?

>>49747475
Should be. I'm a bit of a grognard and had nothing but lead minis for the first 15-20 years of my gaming. Nothing wrong with me. Well, nothing lead related.

>>49744503
Ostfront has a built in campaign system, its a map campaign so more focused on grand strategy rather than specific units getting upgrades. You can advance in technology if you capture an important tech center - start building tigers in early war, or IS-3's or Tortoise Tank Destroyers in Late war.

>>49747360
we use balsa wood bases for infantry stands. works great, providing you use some kind of super glue. Cheap and easy to work with too.

>>49744402
The more I read about Russia, the less I think anyone could be successful. You would have to set up cities and trade routes as you went, and essentially become Russia, rather than conquering it. In the end the Russians can always withdraw (all the way back to mongolia if necessary) and wait for winter, and for your supply lines to be stretched to their limits. Then all they have to do is counter attack until you either die or get sick of fighting.

>>49747188
Its the new Mass Battle game coming out in a month from Gripping Beast. Supposed to cover Biblical to Medieval from what I've heard.

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>>49742963
Go to Tumbling Dice. They have pretty much everything at 1/600 scale, which is a great scale for aircraft / aerial games. Very cheap too. Only drawback is you need to either make your own bases, or buy some. Either way you'll probably need a drill press to drill holes in the bottom of the aircraft for bases.

http://www.tumblingdiceuk.com/product-category/1600/pre-1950

pic are some of my Allied WW1 aircraft, same scale and producer. I made the bases from sheet metal and 1mm wire, and plenty of superglue. They're very sturdy and none have come apart during the painting and 20+ games we've played

>>49741082
>Painting half in redcoats
Are the minis historically appropriate for that? Not that there's anything wrong with painting them red at tabletop distances, but IIRC the jackets are distinctively different outside of colour between red and khaki.

Or are they basically pretty close, in which case, sweet?

>>49747613
>Ostfront has a built in campaign system, its a map campaign so more focused on grand strategy rather than specific units getting upgrades. You can advance in technology if you capture an important tech center - start building tigers in early war, or IS-3's or Tortoise Tank Destroyers in Late war.
Huh. This has me more interested in Ostfront even though I didn't particularly care for the tabletop rules. How adaptable is it to other systems, and can you tell me more?

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>>49748455
I would work with any system really, essentially you have production centers that produce a set number of points each turn, map forces can do 2 actions per map turn, either move or attack. Map forces can spend their turn fortifying a position and get half their points worth of free fortifications if they are attacked (like bunkers, mines, trenches etc).
When one force attacks another, you write up army lists depending on the points each side has (this is really quick in ostfront, so can be done in less than 5 min) and then fight the battle. Sometimes for massive amounts of points we halve the numbers for the table top game, and there are rules where a force outnumbered 4:1 or more automatically wins, but the losing force could still potentially sabotage supply routes and prevent the winning force from making too much of a sweeping advance.

Its a pretty detailed campaign system, I can't really cover everything in this post, and its best suited to a system with early, mid and late war lists that are very well balanced across all factions. Pic is the realistic starting positions map, but there is also a "balanced" version where all forces start in the corners (4 players only) and everything is equidistant.

Production ramps up in mid and late war (as vehicles become more expensive) so in early war a main production center produces 50 points per turn, and mid war 80, then late war 100 per turn. Secondary production centers produce about half that much.

Once a battle is over you apply casualties to the map force (either 25%, 50% or 75% casualties) and the winner of the tabletop objective is able to force the opposing map force back 1 square. If you're able to capture the supply train of your opponent on the tabletop, your map force can make a free action (like moving or attacking again) allowing for sweeping advances to happen - blitzkrieg style.

Grab the main rules PDF if you're interested, the full system is covered there

>>49748588
That sounds fucking fantastic desu, and could imagine a Bolt Action campaign with this.

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Scored a copy of 'Naumachiae', a set of Ancient-era (3000BC - 600AD) naval rules. Iy was written by Langton Miniatures, one of the oldest naval mini suppliers, for their 1:1200 range.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/e4myp8bbvpyxcsz/Naumachiae.pdf
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13685/naumachiae
http://theminiaturespage.com/rules/anc/naumachiae.html

>>49748422
Very cool. Now I need to find rules to use.

>>49748588
>>49748701
I just decided to get started with Bolt Action (I'm the anon who asked for the campaign rules desu) and I had just assumed no campaign system would fit it but now I'm really excited to play it! If only I could decide on a force.

>>49742752
Thanks.

The faces on this picture are only one coat of dark flesh color with no wash and no highlights so far. I usually save faces and skin to be the last thing i paint

>>49742963
>Also need suggestions on Bolt Action armies, who can do smaller but stronger forces?

Everyone really. At least the big 4 (GB, US, GER and SU). They all have solid veteran choices for infantry, be it Airborne, Rangers, Gurkhas, SS, Fallschirmjäger, Red Guard etc.. just pick what you want and make them Veterans.

>>49749943
For more of a "roleplay" campaign with interactions between different officers and other people you can use the character creation from "Platoon forward"
Its designed to be used together with other systems and is not a wargame in itself, but a supplement for roleplaying

>>49749867
Good stuff mate.

>>49749923
Check your Six perhaps?

I need to do a WW2 version of Dogfight! but it requires a SHIT TON of research and playtesting...

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Finished my contribution to the October project, looking forwards to seeing what the rest of you have cooked up.

>>49749867
Nice! Much appreciated anon!

>>49750479
My favorite is still the gentleman in the purple vest, but they all look beautiful.

What's a good way to go about getting the sun faded look on fatigues? White wash followed by regular wash?

>>49750874
What fatigues?

I would probably mix some kind of sand or bone color in my regular uniform color to make it lighter.

>>49750874
A white wash will make the recesses look lighter more than the ridges, I'd recommend just making each layer lighter, if you normally finish on off white/bone, add a little white; if you normally finish on khaki add a little off white/bone etc.

>>49750607
Cheers, I think he and his wife are my favourites too.

>>49750028
>Also need suggestions on Bolt Action armies, who can do smaller but stronger forces?

Just make sure you don't go GB and try to use veteran Tommies. Tommies are probably the worst part of the GB list in general, and making them veteran takes away the only advantage they have: numbers to maximize Rapid Fire with.

GB lists should generally be built entirely with mixes of Chidits and Gurkhas, using Tommies only to man your support troops (AT guns, mortars, MMGs, etc).

>Tommies needed to be buffed or made cheaper in 2e; they weren't

>>49752726
You seriously make me look away with disgust.

>>49752744

Don't blame me for Warlord making literally every other basic infantry choice GB can take superior to basic Tommies. It's likely the "self-hating Brit" effect.

Tommies should either be cheaper or be able to put out more firepower at their price (increase Rapid Fire bonus dice to a 1:2 ratio instead of 1:3). I WANT to see them better, but right now, Warlord has made all the other GB infantry much more effective, and so unless you don't care about winning games (and are going for a purely fluff-based force; and there's nothing wrong with this), there's not a good reason to use Tommies.

I just don't want anon to think that by using a Veteran Tommies list, he's making his army list more effective.

Ignoring Pike & Shotte, what's a good system for the Thirty Years War/English Civil War? Particularly something that can be used with 6mm minis, because I don't think I'm doing that shit in 28mm.

>>49752804
>fluff

How about you fuck off to whatever shithole game you crawled out of.

>>49752987
I think you must be forgetting the demographic BA targets.

These are the people you should be encouraging to play games with more crunch, not yelling at because they don't agree with your adherence purely to historical OOB.

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>>49752939
>Particularly something that can be used with 6mm minis, because I don't think I'm doing that shit in 28mm.

Well Father Tilly would probably be the second choice, but Polemos do a system in 6mm; I can't vouch for it myself but they have a loyal fanbase.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/kvv2mb2fos9c0fd/6mm+English+Civil+War+Rules.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f50l4nv9vz0ldqk/Father+Tilly+-+TYW+Rules.pdf

>>49753010
And this is /hwg/, not Randomy McPowergamer's Personal Forum.

List optimizing is the worst thing for historical wargaming.

>>49753010
I don't care what games people play. I myself have played Bolt Action. I don't really care for it but it's fine.

What I do care about is history. It's not fluff. Fluff is entirely fictional and generally not required for whatever game is being played. An individual may not care about history in such a way either, that's also fine, but at least show it a modicum of respect.

>>49752939
Speaking of Pike & Shotte, do we have scans that aren't as shit as the ones in the OP?

Maybe the digital rulebook?

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>>49753124
Would be nice if we do, could get a proper edit cutting out the insane amount of bullshit padding in the rules that make a system that could be covered in 20-25 pages with examples still bulk out to over 80.

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>>49753010
An article from nearly a decade ago about FoW but applies to BA too:

http://testofbattle.com/drupal-4.7.4/node/23

>Reflecting on ‘Flames of War’, I believe this game has done more for historical war-gaming than any game I recall.
>...
>On the plus side, because of ‘Flames of War’, we 15mm players now have a much greater selection. Between, Old Glory and Battlefront most vehicles are covered. With Peter Pigs, Legions East and others most things can be had.

Not the most in depth or accurate rules, but it gets more people into historicals and results in a greatly increased pool of 15/28mm miniatures available for whatever rules you want

>>49753189
Kinda like the quick reference sheet Warlord has put out, but more in-depth?

>>49753263
More like getting the entire rules section and cutting out everything that should be in developer commentary sidebars, stripping it down to the rules and rewording to use plain language instead of conversational waffling.

>>49752804
Warlord apparently listened to their players. Nobody cried for stronger Tommies. If there were demand, their forum would be full of it.

If you think they are not strong enough, play a different army or play them anyway and deal with it.

>>49753953
>>49753263
>>49753189

I'm actually about to buy the book. Just waiting for their next special and/or one of these 10€ coupons.

I understand what people see in 28mm (plastics are very common, plenty of detail) and I understand what people see in 6mm (cheap, gives the impression of a large army without needing a huge table). But what I don't get is what people see in 15mm. Is it just a middle ground between 28mm and 6mm, or is there something I'm missing?

>>49754429
What else do you expect to see?
Yes it is the middle ground between 28mm and 6mm.

>>49754429
Nope, its the middle ground. You can (depending on your skill) still paint the individual minis at a somewhat high standard compared to 6mm, but they are still small enough to get big forces on the table.
Besides, its also pretty cheap if you avoid FoW/Battlegroup.

>>49754458
>What else do you expect to see?
I dunno man, maybe it's incredibly easy to base for compared to other scales.

>>49754429
It's indeed a very useful middle ground.

You still have a solid amount of detail even on infantry models, but vehicles (if applicable) are small enough that putting more than a platoon of them onto the table doesn't turn things into a tank parking lot, unlike 28mm.

That makes it an excellent choice for roughly company-level (or slightly smaller) battles in WW2, for example.

>>49754476
FoW/Team Yankee suffer heavily from the tank parking lot syndrome though.

>>49754500
Eh, seriously depends on where you are.

Locally, we don't really see that, mostly because people bring arty/air to punish that and because it will often block your own LoS to things, costing you a lot of shooting effectiveness.

From what I've seen, it's mostly ludicrously tank-heavy metas where this pops up.

In addition, because of the difference between ground scale and miniature scale, which is required at pretty much any scale of wargaming, that doesn't actually represent tanks sitting next to each other without room to spare.

I do feel sad whenever I see it on the tabletop, though.

>>49754900
I still think "but ground scale is different!" is just a retarded excuse for bad game design.

>>49754429
I like 15mm because its a middle ground, yes. There's some good details on the minis and throwing a few platoons on a table doesn't crowd the place. Also I can't imagine wanting to fuck with vehicles at 28mm, they're just too big.

15mm is pretty much the perfect scale for Platoon+ games where you have at least a platoon's worth of infantry, possibly all individually based, and supporting vehicles.

That is its real niche if I were to point at one. Not Company+, not Platoon and under (unless you have to play on a tiny board), but at least 30 infantry and 3-9 vehicles of various types, fits them on to a 6x4 board with room to move still.

>>49755161
Niche?
It is one of the most used scales for Ancients and Napoleonics.

>>49755222
That it is used for that doesn't mean that is the niche it does best.

>>49755392
Sorry I misread your original post, I read it as BEING a niche scale rather than having a niche to fill.

So still looking at WWII naval wargaming, thinking on 1:3000 scale, specifically eyeing the Skytrex (Davco) and NavWar ranges (despite NavWars website being abysmal).

Does anyone know of any US resellers? shipping would be a bit high.

Also on Skytrex's site some ships appear in packs of 2 or more, any idea on how to tell the amount you get? For the most part it seems one but Iowa has (2) next to the name and the same price as the South Dakota, which has nothing. Also no pictures.

>>49756455
>Does anyone know of any US resellers?

AFAIK there aren't any 1:3000 resellers in the US. It's an interesting quirk in that 1:2400 is largely a US scale, and 1:3000 is the common European scale; they're close enough that on the table there isn't much difference (they're totally interchangable when using GQ3, for example), but they're just big enough that they can't reasonably be used together.

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>>49756455

Ever since Warweb closed down, there's only really one US-based company making 1/3000 naval minis. The War Times Journal makes them, but they're almost exclusively pre-dreadnought-era ships intended for their proprietary Battlefleet 1900 game. There's a few 1/3000 ships on Shapeways, but they're going to be highly pricey and quality control for 3D printing at detail levels that small is going to be spotty at best for some time to come.

If you're dead-set on 1/3000-scale, Skytrex would be my recommendation. The Davco line isn't terrible (there *are* some stinkers), but the shipping is going to be a flat £10.00 to the US, which isn't terrible. Navwar's shipping to the US, of course, is ludicrous (the last catalogue they sent me - a few years ago - had shipping at £1 PER MINI, minimum £8).

Oh, and regarding the Skytrex blister pack contents; you get 1 per blister pack unless there a (x2) next to it. Compare the US BB entries to the US DD entries; all the destroyers have a (x2) next to the entry.

I'm going to level with you here, anon. If you're US-based, your life is going to be much easier if you suck it up and go with 1/2400 scale. That allows you to use both GHQ for capital ships and Panzerschiffe for smaller craft. Straslund here is a GHQ model, and the other three CLs are Panzerschiffe (for comparison).

>>49756928
why do you go by the name Not Entirely Anon?

Am I supposed to know who you are?

>>49757222

He's a (valued and helpful) Battletech General thread regular who worked in playtesting and wrote stuff for Catalyst for some time. We eventually asked him to namefag so that it was easier to find his posts. He usually leaves the name on when posting outside the Battletech thread, where as I usually remember to turn mine off.

>>49754917

We are in agreement.

>>49752939
Baroque does nicely too.

>>49750047
Platoon forward? Huh, I'll check it out.
>>49750028
So it's less about having weirdly balanced armies and more about just having models you like?

>>49737032
>/k/ Mega folder
Wait, what? Link?

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>>49761178

Just another collection of Ospreys somebody shared. Forgot to add it to the OP this time.

https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ

>>49756928
Kolberg isbackwards

>>49761966
Shiny! Cheers.

>>49761986

You're drunk, anon. Bridge tower is very clearly forward.

>>49754917
It is, if they don't explain it, (and come up with something that looks bad on the table, because aesthetics are still part of it.)

However, ground scale, figure scale, figure ratio and time scale being different are perfectly normal and good in well-designed games.

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Page 10 approaching fast, fire the bump-cannons!

>>49759364
Exactly. A unit of 8 Wehrmacht Veteran Grenadiers with MG-42 and 2 Stg-44 will be identical with a Fallschirmjäger unit of 8 men with that equipment. The only difference is the shape of their helmet and the Jumpsuit.
Of course, if you want to play a Fallschirm-Army, you can limit yourself to historical choices for support weapons and little armor, but you don't have to.

>>49767287
>you can limit yourself to historical choices for support weapons and little armor, but you don't have to.
Or y'know, you could just play Warhammer or something.

>>49767329
Your point?

>>49767335
Why play a historical game if you don't give a shit about history?

>>49767352
What does one single army list say about my interest in history?

Guess what, i can play a "2 flametank and 2 recce-flamer"-list with a few trucks off-board for extra dice during a tournament and still have 5 different other, historically correct lists and the fitting minis back at home which i will happily play against friends with similar lists.

You don't have to limit yourself to one of these 2 things and both ways of playing offer fun.

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>>49729026
Can someone please re-upload pic related? Mediafire blocked the download due to copyright issues...

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>>49768200

Wow, that's so weird. Normally I've never had MF problems with Ospreys. There's no "C" icon next to it either, but you're right, it definitely can't be accessed. Here's a Mega link for you:

https://mega.nz/#!T58TxbYZ!iWhePG2lNoem6ZtN75gg4gcbO4PWN9gP5EZjjbwXoIU

And here's the direct link from my account, see if that works:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/923qdxyakj5plp9/Osprey+-+ELI+026+-+Central+Front+NATO+vs+Warsaw+Pact+-+Tank+War.pdf

>>49768289
Thank you very much, kind Anon! The Mega link works, yet the direct Mediafire link still doesn´t.

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>>49768658

No probs. If in doubt we also have the newish Mega link as seen here >>49761966, that seems to have most titles.

Checking that MF link the original upload was in somebody's account in 2007, so it probably was shut down there years ago.

>>49767805
Ittybitty pikes best pikes.

I've bought myself an aircraft to use in my Bolt Action games. Where can I buy a stand to place it on? How do you use your airplanes?

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>>49769224
It's quite easy to make your own, there are a buttload of different ways to go about it too.

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>>49769268
Bear in mind these are designed for proper aerial wargames so they take into account stuff like altitude markers that you don't really need to worry about if you just want these planes for BA.

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>>49769281

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>>49769293

>>49769268
>>49769281
>>49769309
>>49769293
Thanks famalam, you've outdone yourself. I'll see if I can any of these since I don't own a drill.

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>>49769082
Indeed.

shameless pike posting continues

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>>49769309
Bonus fire/smoke markers.

>>49767386
But why bother playing historical wargame tournaments? It just seems really wonky and stupid trying to minmax along a gaming standpoint instead of building an army to fight historical battles.

It just seems to defeat the purpose of bothering to restrict yourself even vaguely to history at all.

>>49769528
The objectively best way to play historicals is to find a club that is run by old grogs who supply their own armies and scenery for everyone and play their own homebrew rules that they've worked on for literal decades.

>>49769528
anon you were funny at first but seriously stop the joke has gone too far

>>49769528
>why read/watch historical fiction at all? It just seems really wonky /stupid trying to enjoy things which you know aren't accurate instead of watching a documentary or reading primary sources on the subject matter.

>It just seems to defeat the purpose of bothering to restrict yourself even vaguely to history at all

I take historical force compositions to my local clubs Blucher tournaments, and whilst I never win because there are people happy to fill up on Russian Militia and OP artillery, we all still have fun, because shockingly people enjoy different things.

>>49769558
>not enjoying painting your own models
yeah no it isn't objectively the best at all.

>>49769622
> implying you can't use your own models as well as the grog's

>>49769558
used to do that. Played in some old former Royal Marines cellar on SAND TABLES.

>>49769631
I mean yeah then it's ok but theres always
>arrive at new club who use their own house rules
>all your figures are based wrong

This is annoying, rebasing is objectively the worst.

>>49769528
>But why bother playing historical wargame tournaments?

Because i like the people there, and believe it or not.. i prefer the BA game mechanics over 40k and other tournament games. Its fun.
I also like historical miniatures.

Why do you even bother? BA is a fun game. If you don't like it because it can be min-maxed or because you despise tournaments or prefer other historical systems, fine. But don't tell me what i have to do with my historical miniatures.

Btw, this saturday a friend will come to my house and we intend to play a couple of early war/barbarossa scenarios. With BA rules and a couple of beer. And (horrifiying, i know) we will have fun.

>>49769558
I like to paint my own shit, but I haven't really met anyone who'd say "Hey, you brought your all-painted army? Nah son, here's mine, use this." Otherwise, it sounds like the kind of grog I plan to be.

>>49769697
Find a middle ground. Temporary bases, or some kind of movement trays. Separately based figures have a great advantage in this situation.

>>49769827
>And (horrifiying, i know) we will have fun.
I forbid >:(

Does anybody have experience with GHQ 10mm Napoleonics? They look bretty gud, and the pricing is okay.

>>49770035
>Separately based figures have a great advantage in this situation.
Of course, but I play 6mm

>>49770419
Iunno anon, separately based 6mm sure sounds fun to me!

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>>49770974
I've seen it happen. There's a peculiar subset of people who skirmish game in 6mm pretty much exclusively.

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COBBLIN' IT TOGETHER LADS

>>49772108
that's a lot of ionic columns for a tiny building.

What are you making?

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>>49772197

>>49769528
This sounds like more of a problem with the system than the player. If a system doesn't promote historical lists as some of the most effective, it aint built right.
FoW tends to do this pretty well by having pretty strict list building guidelines.

>>49769558
>old grogs who supply their own armies and scenery for everyone and play their own homebrew rules that they've worked on for literal decades.
I bet this will be me some day....
4 Soviet aerosan's on the way, and 6 pz.38(t) for my wehrmacht, all 1/72
Currently working on my brits - painting and basing infantry, and building another Matilda (taking me up to 3)
Gotta paint some cromwells and a tetrarch and the brits will be looking good. I have more churchills than I will ever use in a single game (7 or 8 I think?), a couple of valentines and crusaders. Shit ton of brens, 6pdrs, 17pdrs, howitzers, bofors, even 2pdrs.

>>49773337
hot

>>49772108
What scale/system? Assuming it's a temple of some kind.

>Captcha stops asking for store fronts
>asks for all pictures with columns instead

Damn Captcha, you spooky.

>>49773501
It will be. It's for 28mm, the columns are 5" cake pillars.

The system is one I'm combobulating myself.

Anyone got any recommendations for researching Pacific/North-western native Americans? How they lived day to day type stuff.

Same goes for pre-Colonial Maoris.

>>49773520
are you the lad with the natty athenians?

>>49773730
Aye boss. Working on some Spartans for them to fight too.

Can someone give me a quick overview how Black Powder works?

Kinda interested in picking up the starter set.

>>49773964
the rules are literally in the OP

>>49773876
Did you say you were working on some rules for them?

I actually nearly bought some "heroic" age Greeks recently despite having no use for them/rules in mind so if yours were relevant I'd be interested.

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>>49773669
>pre-Colonial Maoris.
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/daily-life-in-maori-communities-te-noho-a-te-hapori/page-1
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/maori-social-structure/page-2
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/maori/page-2

This page covers a wide variety of subjects on maori life and culture:
http://www.theprow.org.nz/maori/?start=0

Social structure:
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/tribal-organisation/page-1
This also has some info on day-to-day life:
http://www.ruapekapeka.co.nz/read/traditional-m%C4%81ori-society

>>49774085
Pre colonial maori were cannibalistic tribal savages that had close knit families. They were avid hunters and had basic non-metallic technologies.

Now theyre just criminals and dole bludgers

>>49774008
I am currently. It's designed for 'heroic' actions but the figures can be whatever you like. Bronze age, Archaic, Classical whatever.

I wouldnt hold out for them existing fully for a while though. I get 'stuck' with them. I have a shitty blog where I chat about my stuff if you're interested.

There's no rules up there yet but hopefully if I get my shit together.

>>49774148
They weren't completely cannibalistic. It was more a way of intimidating or degrading an opponent. If you could say you ate someone's father or chief, they would certainly be on the path to having a bad day.
There was also a spiritual aspect, that you absorb someone's "mana" when you consume their flesh. So eating part of a powerful warrior, you would believe you were gaining part of their power.

It was more of a ritual / spiritual thing than a survival thing.

>>49774219
>I have a shitty blog where I chat about my stuff if you're interested.
I am.

>>49774293
http://tinymanz.blogspot.co.nz

Pls no bully

>>49774311
really cool anon, you do nice work.

I'd be interested to see / playtest your ancient skirmish rules when you get them working

>>49774311
Real cool.

you have as many posts since september 27th as my blog has going back to July 2015

How on Earth will you keep that up

>>49774356
Cheers man. When I'm happy with what I've got I'll put them up.

>>49774392
I've had the blog since I was a student five years ago but I never did anything with it. I've made a conscious effort to actually start it regardless of my own notions of it's quality.

I just try to make a post every evening of what I've done/thought or read. I've generally done SOMETHING that can be made into a post.

It helps a lot with focusing one projects I've found.

>>49774459
>It helps a lot with focusing one projects I've found.
That's actually what I use this place for. I post far more pictures here than ever reach my blog.

It's easier and oddly I feel more community here with anonymous comments than I do with named comments on my blog.

Not that I don't post to my blog and tmp when I'm feeling greedy for attention.

>>49774148
>the all Maori were cannibals meme
you probably believe in the Moriori and Great Fleet myths too

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>>49774311
>readable layout
>decent pictures
>walls of text properly broken up into paragraphs
>pictures not just of completed miniatures for showing off purposes but wip stuff

Doing it right.

>>49774752
not that anon, Moriori were just a pacific people living on the Chatham islands. In 1835 a group of displaced Maori from the north island really did sail to the Chathams and kill and enslave the lot. But yes the idea that Maori conquered Moriori in NZ has been disproven.

As for the "great fleet", geneology and language really does show migration of pacific people from the melanesian islands to fiji, cook islands, hawai, chatham islands, nz, etc. They certainly didn't swim, and had sea-faring abilities.

>>49773337
>>49774851
Tiny pikes a cute.

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>>49773669

'Maori' is both singular and plural. Anon here >>49774085 has done a great job of curating some good links for you. The problem is of course that Maori culture was an oral tradition, and so much of that was lost during colonization, that it's hard to discern the specifics. I really recommend Michael King's history of NZ if you want an accessible and general read on the subject. As ever here's the requisite Osprey; it obviously focuses on the contact period but will still be useful to you:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/b7209i7rtkq9lky/Osprey+-+MAA+487+-+The+New+Zealand+Wars+1820-72.pdf

>Pacific/North-western native Americans?

Fascinating bunch these guys are; with their freaky masks and totem poles:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/u29tyaj44a2ysxj/Osprey+-+MAA+418+-+American+Indians+of+the+Pacific+Northwest.pdf

>>49774942

I imagine the other anon was referring to the old canard of a mass arrival circa 1250 or whenever it was, rather than the actual historical arrival that was staggered over centuries.

http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/1966/history-myths-in-new-zealand/page-11

Are there any good wargames placed in the Cold war that do cold war gone hot?

>>49775365
Several, what kind are you looking for in particular?

>In addition to wargaming videos youtube has started to recommend historical cooking videos

What have I become?

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>>49775504
ONE OF US

>>49775650
What system are those based for, if you don't mind my asking?

>>49775504
Jas Townsend and sons for comfy 18th C cookery :^)

>>49775982

It's legit the comfiest thing ever.

I wish he'd take his rings off though.

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>>49775697
Apparently the game in play there is Forlorn Hope.
Dunno it myself, only heard of the name before.

Looks like it'd suit a few games though, I mean it's got appropriate shot/pike width/depths going on for the first half of the 1600s.

>>49776200
This game looks insanely fun, what game is it and what are the price range of 6mm minis?

>>49776936
The game in question is Forlorn Hope, as was stated in Anon's post. I honestly don't know if it's good.
The price range of 6mm varies, but from Baccus you can get 96 infantry figures for about $7.

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>>49776936
>what game is it
Well according to anon there, Forlorn Hope
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28629/forlorn-hope
But it could represent any ECW 6mm game such as the Polemos rules

>what are the price range of 6mm minis?
Quite cheap, here's a relevant example:
https://www.baccus6mm.com/catalogue/EnglishCivilWarECW/English/

>>49777001
>>49776995
I fucked up, I read anons post after posting

>>49777045
It happens to the best of us bruv.

>>49776936
>>49777001

It's actually 10mm figures there. If they're Pendraken, that's £4.95 for 30. Or about $4.95 at near future exchange rates.

>>49776995
That's about 6 bases or 2 units for that cost. Rather nice.

>>49777237
>Or about $4.95 at near future exchange rates
Explain pls.

Am I allowed to post Dark Souls memes here?

>>49777440
What the fuck does it have to do with /hwg/?

>>49777440
It isn't even a traditional game. Perhaps go to /v/ where your computer memes might be appreciated.

>>49777628
Well there is the board game

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>>49777628
>>49777656
>>49777499

>>49777656
which would go to /awg/ or /bgg/

>>49777286
it's a joke about the reduction in value of the £ that's been going on

>>49777900
Oh, okay. It'd be cool if the exchange was even though.

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>>49777979
Would not be cool for the UK.

>>49775488
I am not sure, what are the options? I was looking for something along the lines of realism.

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>>49778638
>>49775365

Perhaps Cold War Commander might suit you

https://mega.nz/#!jwcXSY6Y!_jMaHQU9JEnPvrNp54ZOtF5SdQnp8aNb9o4nmUOMCFk

>>49769558
Yes, this, and then to also play with friends, and attend tournaments for fun.

>>49778017
at... at least we have many local manufacturers? oh god

>>49775365
Miniatures: Fistful of TOWs is excellent. Don't be put off by the giant rulebook, that's just because it includes stats for everything - it's a fast game!

Hex & Chit: Lock 'n' Load Publishing do some cool ones. There's also the gimmick solitaire option of Toe-to-Toe Nu'klr Combat with the Rooskies, a solitaire game where you play a bomber doing... well, you can probably guess. bombers doing nukes, hottest diggity

>>49774851
There is literally nothing wrong with blogs that have just completed miniatures. Personally I quite like not seeing multiple posts of the same models, especially when I see a blog for the first time and am scrolling all the way through to catch up.

>implying there arent blogs where an excellent painter posts 5 wip shots of the same models and the finished one so that he can get flattering comments on all of them

>>49774085
>>49775030
Churs bros.

Pretty much all I've ever studied has been literate Europe, so I had no idea where to start with this.

>>49774311
I think you need to make a conscious decision about how familiar the tone of your blog needs to be. Do you really need to scare-quote the word review?

Otherwise I am jelly of your tiny manz.

Speaking of which, any ideas for the next community project? I lost my painting mojo on the civvies.

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>>49779792
>Speaking of which, any ideas for the next community project?

That's a good question. We've done a casualty, a command unit and a non-combatant - perhaps a scenery piece/objective marker?

October 14th is the 950th anniversary of Hastings so I've certainly got the next thread edition sorted. Any of our Britposters down Sussex way?

>>49779792
>Speaking of which, any ideas for the next community project? I lost my painting mojo on the civvies.
That's a good question. I think I burnt out this month, painting the project, some commission work and finishing some other figures, do unless the theme really grips me I might not be doing it anyway.

>>49779859
>That's a good question
>>49779876
>That's a good question

Wew

>>49779859
Born in West Sussex, but haven't been up that way for a while.

More topically http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/14/newsid_2534000/2534347.stm anyway.

>>49779859
>>49779876
Perhaps we just have "A handful of dead boring normal toy soldiers that you can never normally be bothered to paint"...

are there any good youtube channels showing Bolt Action?

>>49780045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5xUzYgPEw&list=PL9e3UCcU00TTJZ1TsBDZAn2DpEcobmv8p
Knock yourself out

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/hwg/ what's your favourite rebellion?

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>>49780504

Boudicca's rampage, 60AD
The Sicillian Vespers, 1282
The Jacobite Rebellions 1715 and 1745
The Flagstaff War 1845

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>>49780640
>blue lipstick and nail polish

>>49780713
She was the original disco queen

>>49780640
>boudica's rampage
>lose with 20:1 odds

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For those who keep up with these things: I just moved the Avalon Hill folder to a new directory and it gave me a lot more space there, so I've added a few more titles.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill

I've yet to add The Longest Day and Storm Over Arnhem because they're huge, but it'll get onto it over the weekend.

>>49780713
Wow! it's Michael Bolton!

>>49779859
Damn Normans and their giant warcats.

>>49780504
Does the Reformation count? Because that whole period of history is my jam, homes.

>>49779876
>>49779859
>>49779792
>>49779914
"grunts/line units" might indeed be an interesting one.

Also something that everyone here should have some options for.

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Almost finished. Tonight its time for some grass and tufts.

>>49780807
>20:1 men means 20:1 odds

>>49779859
>>49781050

The only two things I have to paint at the moment are some USMC and some objective markers so I'm good for either really.

Hello, a guy from /b/ said you all may have some info on this for me. Any help is appreciated
Has a 1939 on front and a 1813 on back

A bunch of Ivan's stuff is on sale this weekend.

Five Men at Kursk:
http://www.wargamevault.com/browse.php?discount=9be97eb2eb

FiveCore 3ed:
http://www.wargamevault.com/browse.php?discount=9be9fe3cae

Brigade Commander:
http://www.wargamevault.com/browse.php?discount=9be72dcd50

Bush War Nation Generator:
http://www.wargamevault.com/browse.php?discount=9bdffde65d

>>49782034
Although you forgot the pic I know you're referring to an Iron Cross

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>>49782034

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>>49782044
Also in other sale news, 15mm.co.uk are giving away a free Norman Cavalry command group this weekend with any order containing stuff from their Norman or Saxon ranges.

>>49782050
Yea sorry forgot to attach the picture

>>49782054
>>49782062
That's an Iron Cross alright, 2nd Class I think? Certainly not an expert on this stuff. But there are entire books devoted to their manufacture and history. It's worth remembering there were a lot of postwar replicas made too. Wouldn't be too hard to research the provenance.

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I guess I'll have to switch to unashamed Hastings posting soon.

Though honestly, as historically important a battle as it was, the prior fights of Harold are more interesting to actually go over. Hastings is a bit of a stand around receiving charges until one lot massively cock up and don't hold the line.

>>49782176
I went to a reenactment down at Hastings once when I was a kid. All the other kids started our own reenactment with toy swords and stuff in a nearby field.

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Alright, let's sink this thread like William the Bastard sank... I dunno he probably sank something notable. Hopes and dreams maybe.

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>>49782247
>sink this thread
October 14th also happens to be the 77th anniversary of U-47 sinking the Royal Oak

>>49782054
With this pic quality it could be anything.. original, good replica or cheap shit from poland.

>>49782034
No other, smaller, stamps indicating a manufacturer?

>>49781050
Maybe the opposite of that? Like specifically a non-line foot unit? Sappers, Artillerymen, Combat Engineers, Dismounted Tankers, Archers, something that's not going to be the "meat and potatoes" of the army but is still walking there.

>>49782862
Might be cool, but I´d prefer it not be limited to foot units, since that excludes naval/air gamers among us.

But something specialist could be interesting, though it might be too general a category.

My current options for painting are... pikes, muskets, archers, arquebus, small handful of cavalry, more pikes. And that's for two different armies in different time periods/localities at that.

Mostly done on the archers and arquebusiers though at least. So many fucking pikes to do though...

>tfw the painting project was a nice way to paint interesting miniatures which might not have been core enough to paint or been pushed to the back of the pile
>tfw we are out of ideas and going to do standard line units already

sad times, but it's hard to have ideas when we have to keep naval units involved as everything is below their scale.

Suggestion: paint something related to food. A bakery/field oven, a chef with a bloody great knife, someone with a chicken stuffed in their pack, foragers, farmers, someone stopping to open a tin of something and eat.

I guess a smoke would be acceptable, and a quick brew up would definitely fit.

>>49783734
For naval, this would be a supply ship or a small boat with supplies or something.

>>49783750
For naval every month is "paint a normal ship or paint a supply ship"

How about recon/scouting as a theme?

It's something present in all eras, giving options for stuff like spotter planes or recon vehicles for the more modern forces, but quite a few options for older stuff as well.

I've got casualty figures, have we done that yet?

>>49783821
that was the first one.

>>49783828
How about banners/flags for something?
Is that something that could be spread across periods?

>>49783172
How about "Combat Support Units"

So still non-line foot units, but also maybe shit like cavalry scouts or mounted support personnel.

For Air:
Shit like SEAD planes, AC-130s, Recon Planes.

For Naval
Mine Trawlers, Q-ships, Destroyer Escorts (maybe?) ASW ships. Who fucking knows.

Anything that saw combat but is not considered to fill the roll of a frontlines normal combat unit, I agree its vague, but that's probably for the best.

>>49784051
Could Zulu War British mounted infantry be counted for that?

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New thread: >>49784311

>>49748436
I've read in a couple of places that the red serge coats were still worn for garrison duty and the like, so I figured it'd give me a bit of variety for scenarios and things like that.

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I've just got some pendraken 10mm vietnam war minis, enough to build one or two platoons of americans and north vietnamese each.

What should I do with them? Base them individually or per fireteams? I was thinking of playing them using No End in Sight, but the activation system needs individually-based miniatures and I don't know if it will look good. What do you people think?