/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

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First for Cats.

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Anything interesting about goblins in TES? Or are they just another leftover from D&D?

Can a hist achieve CHIM?

>>49682337
Yeah, they're an Arena-era D&D leftover, but there's some lore about them.
Orcs are commonly held to be related to goblins (both being Goblin-Ken).
The Altmer keep large amounts of Goblin slaves, as do the Tsaesci (probably not the same breed of Goblin).
There was a Goblin Necromancer serving the Underking in Arena.
Goblins, led by the god Malooc, feature in Redguard history, but it was probably Orcs.
Goblins are among the Goblin-Ken that lived in the early versions of Orsinium, though this has apparently stopped being the case by Gortwog's time.
Goblins sometimes train Durzogs.
That's most of what I can think of.

Also:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:Goblin_Army

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>>49682576
Also, goblins were going to be put in Skyrim, but that was cancelled and the models were used for Rieklings, probably because they would occupy the same "ecological" niche as the Falmer.
The Falmer are far more interesting anyway with their origins as a sophisticated civilization, their armor, the architecture and the both scary and tragic aspectc of their existence.

I'm not one those "TES weirdness" fetishists but Goblins are generic as hell and might as well not even exist at this point in TES.

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>>49682811
TES has kept a lot of the D&D leftovers but changed them to be more unique, which is cool too. They could give goblins the same treatment they gave dragons and dwarves.

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>>49682907
I guess, but it seems late now.

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>>49682337

>>49683089
Not really. Morrowind made the dwarves cool. Oblivion made the minotaurs cool. Skyrim made the dragons cool.

>>49682576
I like some of the TES flavour about goblins.
The fact that they worship malacath is pretty cool
Also I never know if this was cleared up but either all female goblins are witches or all witch goblins are female. Goblins have a matriarchal tribe structure.

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>>49682337
They're basically shorter ashlanders. Each tribe have their own costumes and traditions, examples being how a leader is chosen where among some it's by killing the former leader while other legitimize their rule by having some sort of artefact of cultural importance. They seem to pop up all over Tamriel.

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>>49683211
>Oblivion made the minotaurs cool

Ah yes, Alessia and Morihaus. Not sure how to see that. I'll just pretend Morihaus looked almost identical to a human and had minotaur-themed armor, or the whole thing was made up by some weird scholars.

>>49682811
I agree in part about goblins, they can be pretty stock and boring, but goblins seems a strange starting point for taking on cliché.

Personally, I think the Dawnguard DLC, particularly the Vampires in it, are the worst, most generic thing in Skyrim, and maybe in all of TES.

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>>49683369
That screenshot is horrible.

>'ll just pretend Morihaus looked almost identical to a human
u wot m8?

>>49683460
Yeah, it's bad, I just grabbed a minotaur I had, it's not even from Oblivion.
I just think the relationship is a little to weird.

>>49683459
The Vampires certainly, they even had the whole sleeping in the coffin cliche, but the Forgotten Vale and Auriel's Chapel were nice additions.

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>>49683600
Weirder than Europa and the Bull? Or Leda and the Swan?
I mean, would you rather fuck a bullman or a swan?

>>49683369
Hasphat, please go.

>>49683460
It's actually fairly likely that he was just a straight up bull, but with wings.

I've been playing TES: Legends lately.

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>>49683460
Pretty sure this is suppose to be Morihaus.
The Lord's Mail is also notably suited for a human figure.
Not saying that he was a human, just that he doesn't have to specifically be a bull.

>>49683870
I sincerely doubt that, for a multitude of reasons.

>>49684532
Why?

>>49684585
I'll type it out for you when I get home, as I'm on a phone right now.
It boils down to his depiction in texts (for example consistently being called "bull-man" in the Song of Pelican), his role as a "human" deity, the nature of his son, his association with the Lord's Mail, and so on. I don't think MK ever drew Morihaus, but (he drew Belharza twice), but I know he likes humanoid depictions of Morihaus, if that matters to you.
Now, he was probably more bull than a minotaur, but not a bull outright.

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>>49684813
>song of pelican

>>49684813
He's actually only ever called a "man-bull" once in the Song (Pelican? Is he a friend of the Ada Mantis?). Every other time, in the Song or the Adabal-a, he's consistently referred to as "a bull" or "the bull." I don't think, or rather, don't know, that MK was implying anything there, though.

When it comes to his son and the rest of the minotaurs, doesn't it make sense that a bull + a human = a minotaur?

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. It's just kind of fun to imagine.

>>49684585
>PIC 1:INT. ALD SOTHA - CORNER CLUB - “NIGHT”
>Jubal and Morihaus, seated together, the latter a winged minotaur. His bull head has a nose ring.

>>49684890
Ah, shit.

>>49683369
According to ESO (Hurr durr muh ESO ent real) Minotaurs are literaly Morihaus offspring and he was kind of like them, simmilar to what was before said in either the fireside chats or some other AMA.
Belharza is discribed as a minotaur.

Also theres this >>49683460

>>49684528
And mehrunes razor also isnt suited for a four armed giant. its a vidya game.
For what its worth he could not have been a non humanoid bull but looking ackin to a Minotaur which seems to be the most common interpretation right now.

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>>49684521
Any good?

Gameplay wise, we've already concluded the artwork is kinda generic.

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If I'm not mistaken, some gods in TES are pretty much shapeshifters. Like, they'll show up however the fuck they want, but they prefer certain forms over others.

>>49685107
The gameplay is okay. Not bad, but nothing spectacular.
Lore is weak, and I'll ignore it.

>>49685125
The gods all are, but I don't think Mor is able to do that. Regardless, we could just be arguing about his preferred shape.
But as someone else said, it doesn't matter much.

>>49685029
>And mehrunes razor also isnt suited for a four armed giant. its a vidya game
Mehrunes' Razor wasn't made for Mehrunes, likewise Morihaus didn't craft the Lord's Mail.
But this is besides my point anyways. Morihaus is a spirit, a mythical figure, saying he has a true specified form is just wrong. There are people who will depict Morihaus as a bull, a man, or a minotaur.

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Are foyadas a thing in real life? (under a different name ofcourse)

So Sithis is just bullshit invented by Mephala disguised as the Night Mother to keep the Dark Brotherhood under her thumb after they left the Morag Tong, right?
Or is Sithis Mehrunes Dagon? Sithis is chaos, but also change, and revolution is change, therefore Mehrunes Dagon.
Or is Sithis just pure bullshit?
Or is Sithis a legitimate being with an agenda?

>>49685637
Sithis as the Dark Brotherhood knows it is one of mephalas mechanizations.
What Sithis really is, is just the void which iirc lacks consciousness and influence on Nirn.

>>49685874
>Sithis as the Dark Brotherhood knows it is one of mephalas mechanizations
People treat this as fact way too much based on one book that merely speculates on the issue.

>>49685948
>People treat this as fact way too much based on one book that merely speculates on the issue.
I recognize that everything is very much so grey but their isn't really anyother better theories.

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>>49685637
Praising The Void Ain’t free. The tree of change and freedom gotta be litterd with the Litany of Blood.
Mephala aka "SPIDERSHIT" is not whom I worship, she's a daedric shit and probably not related to the nightmother anyway :DDD
Hist and Shadowscales not the Silken Ring and Spiderkiths ok. praise sithis.

>>49685637
Sithis is something that is fairly hard to truly explain.
I'll start with the history of how Sithis came into being as a concept, which it is.
So basically for fucking ages the Altmer have been really confused about the existence of Time, and likewise, the existence of the world that has come out of time. As they understood it, Time, the beginning, was a direct emanation of Anu, the singular concept of everything, but this didn't make sense because Anu doesn't do anything other than be. So these Altmer came to the conclusion that the inconceivable creation of Time was in fact a reaction to an equally inconceivable action brought about from Padomay, or Nothing which holds the chaotic potential of everything (Everything is only capable of nothing, and Nothing holds the possibility of everything; you start to see why its called the Enantiomorph). This action was named PSJJJJ.
From the grander concept of PSJJJJ which is in itself, Padomay, is derived Psijii (which will eventually be corrupted into "Sithis"). Psijii, as can be seemingly concluded from the Altmeri Creation Myth, is a less broad idea of PSJJJJ.
>Anu encompassed, and encompasses, all things. So that he might know himself he created Anuiel, his soul and the soul of all things. Anuiel, as all souls, was given to self-reflection, and for this he needed to differentiate between his forms, attributes, and intellects. Thus was born Sithis, who was the sum of all the limitations Anuiel would utilize to ponder himself
Psijii is the actual split in Anu that creates Time, or in other words, begins creation (Nir).
Now to Sithis. Sithis is the creation of a very old, very nihilistic, very misnathropic sect of Chimer. Under the influence of Mephala, these Chimer began to merge aspects of their Daedra worship with that of the grander idea of Psijii, though focusing completely on its chaotic nature, thus creating the concept of what we know as Sithis. The sect would develop into the Morag Tong.

>>49682337
https://soundcloud.com/rottendeadite/this-many-goblins-left-the

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>>49683369

>Doesn't think Alsessia would a minotaur.

You've obviously never spent any time in Dragon Age fandom.

>>49687376
Oh, so it's basically a concept derived from some metaphysical myth-history stuff that TES is full of (in both ways) and refined by some misanthropic Chimer. Your explanation was sufficient anon, thanks.

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Its a question that's raised every other thread, but what do you expect from the next installment of the Elder Scrolls game?

>>49690682
The fuck if I could guess at this point. probably more mechanically complicated in skyrim. Would really enjoy adventuring in the Valenwood or the summerset isles, but I wouldn't mind Hammerfell.

Hey /tgesg/ I'm about to run a campaign set in Yokunda during the middle dawn and I need some ideas to fill in the blanks of the lore. My main question is about the left-handed elves what did they look like? If there is nothing in the lore what is a tasteful way I should headcanon them and their culture?

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Are "bards" in TES anything besides trained minstrels that occasionally have adventurer-types among their ranks?

>>49691137
Go to sleep Justin

>>49688061
Damn, that's well done.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1430120-this-many-goblins-left-the-cave/

I keep forgetting my sources for water=Memory stuff, can anyone help me out?

>>49691146
classically (read morrowind), they use illusion magic mixed with short blades and some stealth skills. but otherwise not really.

>>49690682
Hammerfell or Elsewyr.

I'm tired of snow, I wanna see some sand instead.

>>49685630
Follada mamada

Has there ever been a piano, keyboard, or pipe organ sourced in TES?
If not, do you suppose the dwemer could have plausibly built the latter?

>>49687376
This was very interesting to read, but how much headcanon is in there?

>>49691404
Why wasn't I aware of the existence of this??

>>49691146
I think there was a quest in ESO (I know it's bullshit when it comes to lore, but you asked) in Riften region in which there was a bard school using some music-magic kind of thing. Can't remember the details.

Been thinking of rewriting some quests for Province Cyrodil. Problem is they hate everything Oblivion with a passion, even the good bits.

To start, I've been sorting out what I liked and didn't like about the thieves guild.

Like
>ultimate heist
>blind moth priests
>beggars knowing about the guild

Dislike
>fencing and fencing requirement for advancement
>finding the thieves guild
>"doesn't officially exist"/ "grey fox is a myth"

But how should I handle the Grey Fox? Thinking of keeping him hidden somewhere in Anvil. When you complete a job for the guild, you'll be given your reward, and (after you've progressed far into the guild of course) a sealed letter from the grey fox with a quest.

So, anything I missed? What would you change?

>>49692122
We need Crypt of the Necrodancer bard gameplay in TES.

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Thalmor are the best faction in Skyrim, prove me wrong.

>>49684528
He is an Ada, he can change shape at will.
He can be a bull, a man or a manbull.

>>49692168
I like the fencing. Sure, it was annoying and it could be somehow changed but it was the only time in series when the game actually gave you an impression of working for your place in the guild, instead of just doing few quests and suddenly becoming guildmaster.

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>>49692549
We got TES new retro wave now?

>>49691404
Goblins are more aware of kalpas and enantiomorphs than most races

>>49693031
When will they build a goblinumidium

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>want to make some fanart based on lesser known places in Tameriel
>look for lore about black marsh
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Crafting_Motifs_9:_The_Argonians
>Dr Lupus
>Lifts-Her-Tail
Who the hell did they hire to write for TESO?
The text only features a meager amount of elaboration on argonian motifs anyway.

What are some good sources for the arts and crafts of the different races aside from Kirkbride's drawings and in game depictions?

>>49693269
You should come up with your own stuff. The whole crafting motifs series is really mediocre.

>>49684521
Would you recommend buying it?

>>49693269
The Infernal City has some stuff.

>>49690682
High Rock or Summerset Isles. Open cities and levitation are coming back, they just aren't sure how they'll get around current hardware limitations. Underwater battles too, if SI; Maomer occupy Goblin/Falmer ecological niche. 3 'levels' to the game: underwater, ground, air. Air battles. You can finally realize your dream of being a levitation destruction hand-to-hand monk. Wait, sorry, that's my dream (Morrowind's levitation is a bit too stiff for it, and H2H isn't great without draining fatigue, though it can be done.)

>>49692168
>>49692766
The fencing would have been okay if there were anything worth stealing and the fences had more gold. Raiding basements should have drummed up a few token family jewels or ancestral sword or something here and there, and county castles should have had vaults like the Great Houses in Vivec did.

>>49694809
that guard looks oversized

>>49694975
he is a big guy

>>49695322
for you

Since its a mod its kinda relates, what does /tesg/ think of Enderal?

Do Bosmer outside of Valenwood worship the (Nine) Divines, or are they Daedra worshipers that need to be cleansed from Tamriel?

>>49695449
I don't.

>>49695461
No.

Y'all motherfuckers need Yffre.

>>49695467
What do you think of sexmods then?

Lore friendly sexmods.

>>49695535
THEY'RE GREAT.

SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!

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>>49694975
Don't be mean, it's a glandular problem

>>49695461
Depends on the individual. Bosmer outside of Valenwood don't have any issues with eating veggies, so I'd imagine that while most of them maintain their faith, the cultural stigmas wane.

>>49694737

Biggest problem with Levitation in Morrowind is that the monster AI nopes out and just has your opponents run away

>>49695461
Y'ffre isn't a daedra, he's one of the Earthbones, which I'm fairly sure are counted as Aedra.

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Why were the dwemer so cruel and uncaring?

>>49697363
Because nothing matters but the pursuit of knowledge and advanced intellect. Sympathy? That's not how you discover the best way to render a black soul usable inside a soul gem matrix. Those refugees that have nowhere else to go? They better be prepared to become guinea pigs.

>>49696362
Unless they have ranged weapons or magic.
Either way, having enemies run away in fear is one of the best features.

>>49697363
Are Dwemer the worst assholes among the mortal races of the TES universe?
Them being extinct is a blessing for Nirn.

>>49691851
My sources are primarily:
'Source of Chaos'
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/source-chaos
'Concerning the Psijic Order and the Psijic Endeavor'
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/concerning-psijic-order-and-psijic-endeavor
With bits of info from:
'The Monomyth'
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-monomyth
and some garnishing info from:
'Sithis'
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/sithis

The only thing I would say that I am specifically making an assumption is when I'm explaining specifically what "Psijii" is (though not the part where Psijii is in direct relation to the idea of Sithis). I came to my conclusion on Psijii, by relating what we know of PSJJJJ to what the Altmeri state about 'Sithis' in their creation myth (this should go without saying but the concept of Psijii was created by the early Psijic monks).
The Monomyth also states in its intro that "Sithis is the Corrupting Inexpressible Action" which is likely a more Psijic view on the concept.

>>49692654
That was more or less the point I was making
>>49685193

So the Altmer, Khajiit and Redguard have each their own creation myth with plenty of diffrences. But do we know anything about the Argonian/Hist creation myth?

>>49698041
>Bruh what if I gave this salamander some of my sap?
>Bruh.
>lul bruh thinks he's autonomous!
>BRUH.
>Dude bruh they need tits bruh.
>B R U H .

>>49697965
Thank you, I think that was a very good explanation.

Just a thing I think that we need to decide on. Do we create new kalpas on Sundays or not? I think we should try to avoid this, as this is a weekend general and not a general that is up all the time.

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>>49697965
Just played through the Morag Tong in Morrowind.
I see that the Dark Brotherhood in Vvardenfel (NOT Morrowind in general) are very attached to Mehrunes Dagon; Ald Sotha is a big deal shrine to MD, and the special duties all send you to one shrine or another with a big statue of MD.
So, is this a pre-Oblivion conceit? I mean, OB standardized the DB in regards to lore, this is proven by Skyrim's adherence to precedents and lore set by OB.
OR
Are these DB members actually the Mythic Dawn working under the name of the Dark Brotherhood for some reason?
The Imperial woman in Ald Sotha has the title of Night Mother. So, is this another pre-Oblivion conceit or can the Night Mother be a living person? I would assume her actual role would be more akin to Listener, and perhaps Eno Hlaalu was simply mistaken in calling her that.
The Morrowind DB has very little in common with the DB that came after it, so little in fact my personal conclusion is that the Mythic Dawn is operating in Morrowind under the cover of the Dark Brotherhood's name to prevent their larger conspiracy being revealed. Perhaps they themselves don't even know enough DB lore, and the Imperial woman calls herself the Night Mother without really knowing what that means.
Killing the Nerevarine would fall into line with the perogative of the MD; get rid of someone strong enough to stop the Oblivion invasion single-handedly, conveniently appearing in Morrowind and possibly even offering their services to Helseth without being sought after.
After all, why wouldn't Helseth simply seek the services of the Morag Tong, as is tradition? The obvious answer is that he has employed the DB in High Rock and would likely employ them again; there may even be MD agents in the DB who reached out to Helseth. Frankly, the problem with cults is you never know who belongs to them, so any of Helseth's advisors or guards could have suggested hiring this MD/DB conspiracy to kill the Nerevarine.

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>>49698187
Kalpas begin on Friday and end on Sunday. Week-long kalpas end up being low quality; the slowest weekend generals are better than the longest kalpas.

>>49698187
If it's like, the very edge of Sunday into Monday but still Sunday, then it should be determined by the speed of the thread at the time. If in doubt, ask the thread itself at the time.
But if it's lunch time and we need a new thread, then of course there should be a new thread.

>>49698246
More like Monday afternoon.

Is there any connection between the fall of trinimac and the death of nerevar?

>>49697819
I'd say the take second place to the Sload.

The only noticeable drop in quality during weekday threads I've noticed is an uptick in people complaining about dragon breaks.

>>49700151
It's a self fulfilling prophecy
People who don't want breaks shitpost in the weekday thread, and use that as a reason to not have weekday threads.
If they acted like they do normally, there wouldn't be an issue. But given there's not much lore outside of the stone translation, and that's just a translation not really much to discuss there, I personally have no desire for a weekday thread.

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Why are crossbows not very popular?

>>49701743
They're hard to make or something.

>>49701743

Bethesda couldn't work out how to make them work in Oblivion.

There is no good in-universe answer. Considering the ships and arms they can make, they have more than enough metalworking and woodworking skill. Crossbows are actually simpler to make than bows once you have the know-how, and certainly more effective.

>>49702089
>Crossbows are actually simpler to make than bows once you have the know-how
I thought that crossbows are harder to make than bows because of all the moving parts, but are easier to use.

I've been trying to work on a Morrowind Dunmer voice. If anyone wants to leave some lines for me to say, I might record some when I'm off work. If they sound any good, I'll post them in the next thread.

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>>49701743

Elven conspiracy. God forbid that someone come up with a ranged weapon any pleb can use without training for years, so the knife-ears' bow industry makes sure any attempt to spread the technology gets sabotaged so the the elitists can keep patting each other on the back over their long lives giving them the spare time to git gud at an obsolete weapon. Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, they're all in on it. Dwemer weren't, they tried crossbows. Where are they now?

Exactly.

>>49703576
Crossbows don't take any less skill to aim, they just don't take as much effort to pull back (this is why the elderly and disabled are allowed to hunt with them). This obviously a human conspiracy as they benefit from the bows draw strength and simple designs for simple minds.

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>>49681475
Is tgesg /bane/ or /CIA/?

Choose wisely.

>>49701743
If I had to guess, tactical efficiency. The crossbow's usefulness in siege warfare is likely made redundant by the presence of battlemages, at least in the sense of Imperial engagements. While on the field, the Empire probably favors the bow for its faster rate of fire, and the Empire, being as large as it is, likely doesn't find too much trouble gathering skilled archers.
Groups like the Fighters Guild look for people with more personal combat skill, and the crossbow isn't all that great to rely on without support.
Though I would imagine crossbowmen would still be deployed for defense by local guardsmen and militia.

Just had en enchanter make a ring of 100-point Open, at first level. Took me two weeks of selling Glass Daggers and Ancestor Ghost souls to Creeper to pay for it, but hey.

Morrowind is easy to break.

>>49703502
>Oh b'vehk, what do you *want* from me outlander?
>Where did that slave go...here not long ago.
>The Redware is nice, but the Limeware seems to cost more.
>You're as ugly as an Alit, outlander, and twice as stupid.
>What did that cutthroat ask me again.."Where's the money in that?"...?

>>49704810
How did you get that many at level 1? Steal them from some place?

I tend to prefer Alchemy, personally. I have improved formulae for various effects floating around my subconcious that still pop up and surprise me.

>>49705027
Speaking of gamebreaking with poison, did anyone else use the Dark Brotherhood special poison thing to make a poison instead of dumping it in the emporer's soup? Because that made something that did like 1000 damage.

>>49705068
In Skyrim, I mean.

>>49705027

Couple of merchants in Vivec and one in Suran have broken (condition 2/300) Glass Daggers for sale. About 20-30 gold each, 200-250 to repair, and Creeper will buy them for the full $4000 gold value.

Ancestor Ghost souls in Common gems are also worth 4000 each, and are fairly easy to kill. The limiting factor early game seems to be access to the empty soul gems

>>49704998

The only Dunmer lines that really matter are "You N'Wah!" and "Now you die!"

>>49703502
>not rapping Straight Outta Canton

>>49705068
Really? That's pretty neat, actually.

>>49705068
Yeah, you can keep the Jarrin Root. I should try and make an alchemist dragonborn that can one-shot Alduin with it.

Secunda orbits around Manner right?

>>49703502
>I suppose we can... talk

>>49704998
>Where did that slave go...here not long ago.
Where's that slave? here not long ago...

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Skoomanon, tell me about your nutmeg high. I'm curious.

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>>49707564
Just woke up. It's not lore related, but can tell the whole story.
>Buy three bags of nutmeg, some cheap Mexican stuff, after work.
>Get home and realize that I don't have the things to make a soufflé.
>Next best thing, make a giant milkshake with it to mask the taste.
>It tastes absolutely horrid, the taste still makes me cringe when I think about it.
>Man up and chug the stuff
>A few minutes later, a buddy of mine comes knocking.
>We're hanging out and I tell him what I did.
>He looks it up, says it takes more than a few hours to kick in, and lasts quite a while.
>Hangover can last well over 12 hours.
>It's about 11:00 pm. Work starts at 11:00 AM.
>Deciding that I'm fucked no matter what I do I go to bed and wait to wake up high.
>Wake up, feel like I hadn't had a single wink of sleep.
>Look in mirror, my eyes are red despite there not being any smoke.
>Shave and get to work.
>Try going through out the day, but my head is killing me and I can't hold down any food.
>Finds the manager who likes me the most.
>Tell my boss I'm sick and he let's me go.
>Other manager says I look high, I tell her I just couldn't sleep.
>Go home, and sleep for 8 hours.
>Feel alright.
>Get back to Shitposting about Morrowind.
I might try it a second time to see if it was just misfortune, but probably not. It has the same active ingredient as Peyote, and so I'd rather just do that and save the hassle.

On a related note, I'm going to be trying Magic Mushrooms next Tuesday or so. I'll try playing Morrowind, but if I end up playing in the mud in my underwear instead, that's what happens.

>>49707855
Thanks for the story skoomanon. You should make a Morrowind lets play with a different drug every time. Living the Khajiit dream.

>>49707984
That does sound fun. Expensive, but fun. I tend to always play Breton Atronach "Mage", but I'll look into it.

>>49698246
What's this?
Chim for ants?

>>49702392
God no, its a very basic principle, don't even have to calculate elasticity to make a decent one.

Just a pin and some stretchy hard string between two points and some wood to hold it all together.

Theres a reason they were favored by criminals during the early 1700's. They were piss easy to make and didn't catch an eye like pistols would.

rip /esg/ its been fun

>>49708644
The fuck is /esg/?

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>>49708644
???

>>49709116
4chan is kill, this time for good
/meta

>>49683688
Completely forgot about the Vale and the Chantry stuff.

Those were extremely coo, but Castle Valkihar sucked so bad it made me forget.

>>49683688
What was the explanation for sleeping in coffins?

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>>49708644
>/esg/ is dying
>/whfbg/ is dying

Hi folks. As OpenMW is coming up i have been working on mod involving one of islands east of tamriel but i'm getting worried lately so i ask, how much butthurt would you be if my interpreting of Cathnoquei 'll be in conflict with K.B.'s lore-fiction.

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>>49710611
>ll be in conflict with K.B.'s lore-fiction.

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>>49710611
>Trainwiz turns Alduin into Thomas the Tank Engine.
>Random anon worries his reasonable interpretation of Cathnoquey will break lore.

>>49710942
>and so canon wars begin...
Could we not. I think we are kinda over this.

I want someone to explain to me if Hackdirt is just meant to be a fun Lovecraft reference or if they're connected to the Sload (given that their Bible translates to the book about the sload necromancer from Redguard)

>>49711691
We are over it. Kirkbride is clearly best. Anyone saying different is trying to reignite it.

>>49711790
Yes.

I checked the USEP entries and Imperial Library, but I need more information about food and recipies. Any resources or am I pretty much limited to USEP and IL?

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>>49711790
I want someone to explain to me why each city only has one bumfuck outlying village, not a half-dozen.

>Hurr engine limitations.

Morrowind had the Bitter Coast villages, a bunch of Redoran settlements, and Dagon Fel, not to mention Telvanni taking over every Velothi Tower within reach. You had the sense that the backcountry was a living, breathing place, not a couple of quest sites and 4725837 respawning anonymous bandit camps.

Since we're slow today, I'll post some interesting links:

What probably inspired Nordic "Cunning Folk" traditions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunning_folk#Scandinavia

What probably inspired Black Books:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprianus

>>49713396
There's always the drinks from Arena.
It's often the case that there's books that mention things that don't show up in in articles. For example, the "Khajiit" article might mention something about Khajiiti armour, but you'll have to dig trough texts on your own to find it. I'd imagine it's the same deal with food, and that you'll just have to search for keywords and read texts from there.
If you've already done that, I'm not sure I have a lot to offer.

>>49713413

Shit world design. Cyrodiil felt to me like a few pristine islands of civilization amid lush wilderness full of ruins. Felt more like an outlying province than the heart of the Empire. Needed more villages and active forts, like MW.

Also doesn't help that Cyrodiil has fucking caves full of killmainburn monsters literally right by the main roads, with some of those said killmaimburn monsters patrolling outside around the door.

>>49713396

Jagga is a Bosmeri beverage made from fermented pig's milk IIRC

>>49713539
Alright, thank you. No I havent done that, but I will keep an eye out. And thanks for the Arena Drinks tip.

>>49713616
Oh, and read this:
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/dreadful-theft-suns-dusk-ale

>>49713605
Unthrappa is just delicious.
Do not ask questions.

>>49713592
I still remember the time when I ended up being chased inside Chorrol by a Minotaur that happened to be wandering along the road outside, then watched it murder 20-odd town guards before it finally died.

>>49713671

You should have gone and got Jauffre to help. He lives quietly as a monk in Weynon Priory, near the city of Chorrol.

>>49713728
Near the city of Chorrol.

>>49707855
>I'll try playing Morrowind, but if I end up playing in the mud in my underwear instead, that's what happens.
You're doing god's work, anon.

>>49708418
I can never find a high res version of this, fml

>>49713592
>Cyrodiil has fucking caves full of killmainburn monsters literally right by the main roads, with some of those said killmaimburn monsters patrolling outside around the door.
You think that's a level scaling issue or are their deleveled caves where this shit happens? Haven't really played oblivion enough to really know
Maybe because of the invasion, monsters aren't weeded down like they usually are, all the guards are at the gates?

>>49714363
>Maybe because of the invasion, monsters aren't weeded down like they usually are, all the guards are at the gates?

Well TES games do have crazy spawn rates, this is true. But then there are still Legion soldiers riding up and down the main roads.

Even so though you'd think that the roads wouldn't be overrun with monsters after only a few days.

>level scaling

I can certainly say that when the player's at level 20+, the roads are plagued with asskickers like Land Dreugh and Minotaur Lords. Fucking Minotaur LORDS. Those kill non-essential NPCs in no time.

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>>49714288

>>49713639
Nice, I guess Ill have to search for ale, wine etc.>>49713605
Ty

Is Chimer pronounced like chime-mer, kim-mer, chim-mer or kai-mer?

>>49714855
kai-mer

Assuming Ulfric is well-educated for a Nord (probably tutored as a child, studied under the Greybeards, additional military training in the Legion, probably independently has studied political history...) would he know anything about the Psijic Order?

Obviously they're very mysterious, and generally only mage scholars would know anything about them. Especially by the time of Skyrim, when the Mage's Guild and it's founding has faded from relevance. But then I also wonder if he wouldn't have learned about them at High Hrothgar, since both the greybeards and the Psijic's are ancient and exclusive orders of monks dedicated to weird old forms of magic.

What would a dunmer do when they felt, well, troubled by one of the House of Troubles?
Would they do something to placate the daedra? Try to ignore them?

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>>49716582
are cod pieces common in tes?

>>49710611
K.B.?

>>49713396
>>49713605
Rotmeth is even better; a Bosmeri alcoholic beverage made from fermented meat juices

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>>49716582
For you.

>>49718451

Thought you guys would find Trump in Elder Scrolls amusing.

>>49718854
>Donaldius Trumpus

As much as I'd want to say he's a Nord, I guess I'll concede that Imperial works better just because I can't think of the Nord version of his name.

>>49718828
If I pull of your beard, will you die?

>>49719017
Donaldr Trumpson

So guys, I just finished Morrowind for the first time ever, met Vivec then killed Dagoth Ur etc

So I wondered, where did you guys got all this CHIM thing about Vivec ? How is he different from Almalexia and Sotha Sil ? I didn't played Tribunal (but plan to do so) so maybe the answers are in it ? Can you enlighten me ?

>>49719017
Donal Turmpr

>>49718854
>Ulfric is Putin.

I-I can't even.

>>49719343
Please, restrain yourself.

>>49719467
Too late

>>49682811
>goblins were going to be put in Skyrim
It's good that they weren't, those goblins looked nothing like morrowind or oblivion goblins.

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>>49682907

Ho Ha ho! I have come to pronounce this kalpas doom! I will soon eat this one, as I have eaten those before!

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>>49721078

Making face meshes is hard. It's easier to take the human meshes we already have, paint them green and add tusks.

It's not just TES: it's the entire industry.

>>49721692
How the fuck are Alits, Guars and Kagouti even supposed to, well, live? Their heads make up over half their bodymass.

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>>49721078
>go wrong
The left version is shit. Looks like a dumb cartoon character a 6-year-old would draw.

>>49721772
For Guars at least it's more like 1/4 or less so there's plenty of place for internal organs and stuff.
Also, creatures in a magical fantasy world don't need to function with real life biology.

>>49721946
I just viewed this thread from the first page at a glance and I could tell from your post that you're an idiot.

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>>49697363
>>49697417
>Why were the Dwemer so cruel and uncaring

>>49707855
> It has the same active ingredient as Peyote

I don't know who told you that but its wrong.
nutmeg is way closer to "poison that also makes you hallucinate" than "fun recreational drug"

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>>49721946
ESO's guars have better proportions though, Morrowind's guars had an even bigger head and a skinnier body with thin legs.

And there's nothing wrong with Morrowind's graphics.

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>>49722454
>Dissing on Skyrim's grafix

say that to my face in argonia not vvardenfel and see what happens

Shall we let it die or try to get those last 100 posts tomorrow?

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>>49723492
If you're in favor of letting it die, either keep your silence or respond with a sage.

The ending of the words is Almsivi

why you let tes sage

>>49725634
Because it's Monday and no one wants another Autism Wednesday

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>>49725634
Because as much as I love these threads this one went to shit fast.
Here's the threadly Chaika.
Ending! Words! ALMSIVI!

>>49727420
People just gotta stop trying to say Kirkbride is wrong.

So just what is CHiM anyway?

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>only played Arena and Daggerfall
>play Skyrim
what the fuck happened between the 3rd and 4th era?

>>49728920
Yeah, I just started playing Skyrim. I too would like to know.

>>49718784

Kuntbubble. Responsible for all the pretentious lore in TES.

>>49728923
>>49729475
CHIM happened. All the knightly armor disappeared and became concentrated in High Rock. Everything else became various shades of Barbarian and Classical because "LE barbarians and Romans are cool bro"

>>49728923
The Dragonfires went out; Mehrunes Dagon got permab& from Nirn; the Aldmeri Dominion reformed, invaded Cyrodiil, and basically won; Morrowing reenacted the Dust Bowl; a shit ton of people lost their jewels inside a randomly selected cave.

>>49727752
>People just gotta stop trying to say Kirkbride is wrong.

Fanboys need to gb2 their containment subreddit

>>49729527
All the lore that makes it any good and not generic fantasy wank bullshit.

Shut your mouth Pauly Shore

>>49729554
Whatever you say "I've only played with sky's rim and watched Oblivion with Tom Cruise and think I'm a TES fan" man

>>49729585
>you're a fan because i play games in the series
...yeah?

>>49729527
>>49729561
You're both faggots

>>49729674
Everyone who hasn't played Morrowind for at least 300 hours should get out.

>>49729674
He's saying you haven't actually played the games. You've just given a rimjob to Skyler and watched a scifi movie with Tom Cruise and now you think you know what you're talking about.

>>49730518
>you haven't actual played the games
>you just played the games
?

>>49729724

Welcome to Cleveland.

In other news, it's Tuesday

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Honorable Writ of Execution
Thread >>49681475

The afore-mentioned thread has been marked for honorable execution in accordance to the lawful tradition and practice of the Morag Tong Guild. The Poster of this non-disputable document has official sanctioned license to kill the afore-mentioned thread.

Thread >>49681475 has been slain according to the traditional and honorable doctrine of the Morag Tong. None dared to report my actions.

>>49729742
>300 hours
>fucking noob
add a "0" to that and get on the big kids level

>>49722119
Just what my buddy told me when he looked it up.
Also
>Peyote
>Fun recreational drug
From what I've heard it makes you puke. A lot. The high is deep and introspective and creates the perfect situation for a religious experience. But then again, that just what I've heard.

>>49714258
>>49707984
The plan changed. Not Tuesday, probably Thursday or Friday, I might even post in the thread while it's happening. So if weird Shitposting occurs that might be why, and if that happens I apologize.

>>49731823
Can't be worse than this thread early Monday.

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What exactly is The Sage?
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Sage

>>49733993
Isn't it obvious? He's the Sage.

>>49731303
Necromancers up in this bitch

Dead thread lies dreaming

>>49733993
A great book. One of my favorites.

Or, if you mean the character, a functionally immortal Breton Wizard who lives in a castle on a mountain and trains any wizard who he deems worthy. Which is pretty rad.

Or, what I'm putting in the options field so the thread can return to Aetherius and return next Friday.

>>49733993
Like a lot of things mentioned in Daggerfall books, the Sage was probably originally intended to be featured in-game as a random spawn/event, or quest focus, only to be cut from the main-game.

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