HHG 30k

konrad curze is faggest primarch

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I wonder what is going to be worse once Inferno comes out : Yiffs coming to 30k or all the people trying to use their Stigmarines as Custodes.

Anyone get the yiff-king model yesterday?

Will Inferno unfuck wolfitywolfwolf?

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Have this.

>>49607101
>implying sigmarines will be cheaper than custodes
Have you SEEN the price of those things?

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It's so cute.
>What's that? Burn everything?
>Well, you got it!

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Going to take my World Eaters out to stomp some puny Word Bearers. Luckily, he didn't bring and Tactical Assault Moons. Wish me luck, /hhg/.

>>49607192
Remind him to have faith as you chainaxe his soft, defenceless soldiers

>>49607116
I specifically was refering to those buying the stigmarine half of the starter box from Ebay

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Ok, given it a few days and edited what was necessary. Criticisms given were too few bodies and not enough AT. The real question I want answered is should I get rid of the Medusa to add an extra Rapier and have 80-90 spare points to add shit, or is it fine the way it is?

2000 Imperial Fists

HQ (90)
Centurion – Artificer armour, Combi-weapon, Power Weapon, Melta Bombs (90)

Troops (785)
20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla,
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power weapon, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla,
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power weapon, Melta Bombs

Elites (405)

3 x Apothecarion Detachment. (135)

1x Contemptor Cortus Dreadnought CCW with Plasma Blaster and Lascannon (160)

2x Legion Rapier Battery (110)
>2x Laser Destroyer array

Heavy Support (720)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Artillery Tank Squadron – 2x Medusa (310)

>>49607792
On a related issue, how does one better deal with deepstrikers, Bubble wrapping or Augury Scanners?

>>49607112
Blood angels would definitely think sharks are dickheads though

General needs an injection. Never seen it sit still for so long.

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>>49608754
Agreed.

After getting tired of waiting, I just up and remade my account. For some reason this worked, but now I have to wait to get full privileges again.

>>49608754
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6o7be8UuQA_eDUzbWVrQW9EbHM
We have a fully scanned white dwarf.

People are also likely reading Corax.

>reading The reflection, crack'd
>get to the part where they shove stuff up Fulgrim's asshole and he compliments Lucius on the size of his sword
>stop reading

How the fuck did they ever publish this? Was the editor on leave or something?

>>49608847
>How the fuck did they ever publish this? Was the editor on leave or something?

The editor may well enjoy erotic gay fanfiction? But I'd have labelled it as such, not as a normal BL novella.

>>49608781
How much time will that be?
>>49608847
>How the fuck did they ever publish this?
Because that Fulgrim is a meme. The only way to survive reading that part is regarding it as "it's going to be a Fulgrim is Slaanesh episode".

>>49607183
I'm not a huge fan of the Achaeron. Tried it a bit. It fucking wrecks shit. But it gets flanked and killed too easily as that (not torrent) flamer gets it too close to enemy lines by requirement too fast. If you're playing safe you're not flaming and wasting points.

I've just gotten a castigator for hordes, so we'll see how that goes.

>>49607887
What did he mean by this?

>>49607887
What is bubble wrapping?

Weird question: How well does 30k do for GW? I know the novels seem to be popular but surely the game is super niche.

>>49609205
Apparently they want a slice of the pie back. They want to do generic plastics whilst FW carries on the special stuff.

Is there a copy of the rules for the new flying automata anywhere? I know it was available to buy at an event over the weekend and came with printed rules.

>>49609226
Stahp.

>>49609194
placing cheap units around a more expensive one to prevent the deathstar being charged

>>49609277
How does that relate to my list? I can't tell whether those things are a bizarrely phrased criticism or the dafty just attached it arbitrarily

>>49607792
NEVER take lascannons on dreadnoughts. Besides the fact that lascannons only work in large numbers, the weapon upgrade is way overcosted on dreadnoughts

If possible take a 3rd laser destroyer rapier instead (which is only 30 points more than giving a dreadnought a TL-lascannon. Kek) and either take 2 shooty weapons or 2 Dreadnought CCW on the dread.

>>49607887
Bubble-wrapping is the best way to keep them away from your valuable units. Augury scanners can be more situational (interceptor bolters aren't gonna stop a leviathan coming down)

>>49608847
They were pandering to girls going through puberty.

>>49609436
Ok, thanks for the advice. The dread loadout is something I've been umming and ahhing about

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>>49609249

>>49609469
If you're going for 2 dread fists on the Cortus don't take plasma blasters. The Cortus can already lose hullpoints, and having gets hot! guns means it is very likely to blow up itself before achieving anything

>tfw could be painting
>decided to watch a DOOM playthrough instead
Why.

>>49609436
>>49609469
>>49609534
Made the changes, got 95 points left. Master of Signals fits, but no upgrades possible for it.

Not sure again where to put them. Not enough to do anything big with

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>>49609538
Use the walk through as a source of inspiration. Pic is unrelated, but is how other legions deal with the Death Guard. I would say it's DG training, but Barbarus probably smells badly enough.

>>49608847
That's the most slaanesh shit ever. No objections

>>49609675
>>49608847
post scans

>>49609566
Master of Signal could be OK if you stick him with the rapiers.
MOS also rarely needs any upgrades

>>49609705
It's that, or I could divvy the points between AC on the tanks, and artificer armour and Auguries on the Apothecaries

>>49609606
I dunno mate, all it makes me want to do is have a game/mini-game where you play as a legionnaire who fights daemons.

Or something like that, I dunno.

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do you guys just keep on adding to the same legion or do you move on and start another?

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>>49609675
Anon, you know nothing of Slaanesh. I was there for this atrocity, and now my soul is seared.

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>>49609792
done 4 legions so far and once I have played with the army a bunch and finished it I sell it on and finance the next one. Send help.

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>>49609792
You know, KA, you get a lot of crap but at least you're a loyal son of Dorn.
>>49609830
Which legions have you done?

>>49609830
People complain about modern art just being photoshop filters of models but you have a Johnny and the axe guy at the bottom in the normal poses

>>49609830
nah that's pretty much where I'm at. now that I'm "done" with my Imperial Fists enough so that I can play them at my LGS I don't want to add on anymore to it. Still just need to find the right theme and legion for my next project...

>>49609792
I plan on just making a massive iron warrior force with legion specific units from the other legions to just ally in.

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>>49609848
Old art had some flavor.

>>49609766
Aw, shoot. That just gave me an awesome idea for a narrative campaign.

Both sides in a campaign are traitors, one must be Word Bearers and/or Chaos Daemons, and the other any traitor legion. The non-WB traitor legion would be freaking out about the Daemons and started fighting against them and the WB, for reasons.

I dunno. Something. It was a lot clearer in my mind.

Anyways, it would be a good reason for two traitor legions to fight against eachother without the lolloyalisttraitorsamiright? stuff.

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>>49609847
Word Bearers, Night Lords, World Eaters and Dark Angels

Currently working on Dark Mech and Death Guard

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>>49609893
>Anyways, it would be a good reason for two traitor legions to fight against eachother without the lolloyalisttraitorsamiright? stuff.
World Eaters being the unstable nignogs they are attacking the other traitors for no reason but because muh nails. The survivors of that attack then go to another Traitor Legion, ask for supplies, and then get into a fight because they go a no.

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thought I'd let you know that Space Marine is on steamsale for 10$€buckerydoos.

>there will never be a game like Space Marine set in the Horus Heresy

kill me pls
>Ullanor Campaign SP missions
>Horus Heresy MP maps like Terra and Istvan 5

>>49609803
post the full one senpai, I need my soul fucked up real good

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>>49609896
Anon, I'm surprised that you haven't started SoHs yet, or would start DAs without their full release.

>>49609847
thanks, I almost wanted to start a traitor legion next...but then I realized I'm too loyal for this shit, so now it's either UM/BA/IH when the new box set comes out.

Considering building a praetor + command squad on jetbikes, but would rather use Sammael's bike than the dildo jetbikes from FW.

Having no experience using such a unit and never seen it in action, is it decent or a waste of points like Headhunter kill teams ?

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Just back from Warhammer World and the Heresy dioramas were awesome the IH/EC especially. Way too much AoS in display.
The Stormbird was for sale and look way more impressive than a Thunderhawk.
The paint job on my legion primarch wasn't that impressive, maybe I had too much expectations, time to order it I guess.

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>>49609957
Anon, I warned you with the censored version's filename, but you brought this on yourself.
>>49609983
Try the Hands or Angels. You'll get more crap for doing your Destroyers UMs.

>>49609983
I dunno. Having a traitor and a loyalist legion seems like fun to me.

Then I realize I'm not interested in any of the loyal legions.

>>49610018
I mean, that's pretty out there, but it's not the worst thing I've ever seen
period sex is pretty fucked though

>>49609997
>02 October
Are you a time traveller or is this a different event

>>49610052
At the time no one was expecting it, that's why it got so many of us.

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So why didn't anyone think to remove the Arch-Traitor's homeworld; a blade in Terra's throat seeing how close it is, from day one?

>>49609792
So far a mostly finished IH, and now starting SoH. I can't stop writing lists though for most other legions. I feel like I should bolter either of those before I would start another

>>49609299
How would you protect your artillery squad from deepstriking combimelta Cataphractii? What if flyers with lascannons appear and kill your Siccarans before they even have a chance to fire back? Kinda related, a full Vultarax maniple takes about 13 Las Deredeo shots to kill, assuming they don't jink or regenerate, taking grounding tests into account.

>>49610107
All traitor home world's were exterminatus'd after the heresy. Plus maybe there was nothing on chthonia worth attacking. Kinda like how when the allies retook mainland Europe during ww2 they skipped the German held channel Islands.

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>>49609970
I really don't like painting SOH so they are out and yes DAs were a mistake to start, thankfully I did a decent job on them and sold them to some dude in the US, they felt so hollow to play without a book out.

>>49610210
I know they were exterminatus'd during the scouring; I'm asking why Dorn and Malcador weren't on that shit from day one.

They're effectively giving Horus an excellent staging ground for an attack on Terra

>>49610018
Guess it all comes down to whether I want to get IH MK3 as veterans from Forgeworld or 40k Blood Angel tacticals as veterans for like...half the price.

>>49610060
Brexitland here. October 2nd 10PM.

>Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Ultramarines hang out on macragge
>Blood Angels and Sanguinius make it back to Terra before Horus does
>Ultramarines and Dark Angels don't

wait what, why does the whole continuity seem to be off in HH?

>>49610284
Wait for the BL ass pull please

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>>49610236
Legion homeworlds are well defended, and it would be kind of pointless to spite Horus like at the time.
>>49610284
The Calth debacle kept the UMs at bay, and the Lion loves lynching Night Lords. Possibly he had to help Leman out after the Wolf Cull.

>>49610330
In Weregeld it's Corax that helps Leman.

>>49610330
well but the Empire Secundus happened after Calth, so the three were hanging out in Macragge, THEN Sanguinius left for Terra, why didn't Rowboat join him?

I always thought Calth kept the Ultras occupied, but now the timeline is so crowded with odd happenings that the overall timeline seems strange.

>>49610345
Well, shoot. The Lion might honestly love killing Night Lords so much that they distracted him from coming to Terra. Plus, I think he wanted to go back to Caliban to see what was going on with Luther.
>>49610360
Word Bearer infestation brings down a planet's value.

>>49610360
You'll have to wait for BL to fix their fuck up

>>49610202
Is there any way every single list can take these things into account at 2000 points AND be fun AND fluffy?

Every time I write a list out, someone always points out something I can't do with it, I change it, and then someone else tells me I can't do the thing I just changed.

Ultimately seems like there's no way to preempt every eventuality and be everything proof and still play what you want and enjoy yourself

>>49610249
What nationalities do we have here
also British

>>49610407
so it's a know plot-hole and not
my lack of comprehension?

>>49610451
Well I don't know if you can call it a plot hole if it's intentional; but yeah, you aren't wrong, just going off of old info

>>49610409
Welcome to Warhammer, there's always one army you can't win against

>>49610409
Personally I don't bother too much with taking specific anti-flyer stuff. Things with Skyfire are useless against everything else and Flyers sometimes won't turn up before turn 4 anyway

>>49610469
That's my point, everyone sperges out when a list isn't perfectly specced or waac'd out to oblivion

I'm taking what seems fun and fluffy and thematic, and to be honest my list as it looks right now seems solid. Maybe I'm just being a noob, but most people in my meta are running themed lists, not spamming deathstars

>>49610101

Also the fact it was cap'd as spoilers made it so much better

>>49610409
Then just make a list and play what you want.

>>49610409
the most important part is that you like your army, that you enjoyed painting the models and enjoy playing them.

A friend of mine used to have a valhallan guard army, no tanks and barely any elites.

He just loved to zergrush people with his little guardsmen, he didn't win a lot of battles I know of but he still had more fun doing it than any metagamers I ever played against.

>>49610284
>>Blood Angels and Sanguinius make it back to Terra before Horus does

Sanguinius said "We going to Terra"
Ruin Storm said "Nope"

Later, Ruin Storm was with some friends and they asked how it got all those bruises and broken bones.
Ruin Storm "tripped fell down some stairs."

>>49610559
>>49610560
I am and I will, and I'm fucking looking forward to doing so

>>49610540
You were there?

>>49610636

Yes
It was a thread of "when you fell to chaos"

Most were pretty vanilla and cheesy.

Then that happened.

>>49610521
That's because if you're posting a list it's because you want it to be the best it can be, subconsciously at least, so if you just want your fluffy fun list to have a beer and pretzels game with your friends about then don't post it here

>>49610696
At least some of us got a first hand experience of Slaaneshis.

>>49610284
>why does the whole continuity seem to be off in HH?
because they dragged shit out for more drama with the "imperium secundus" nonsense, instead of just leaving it at "ultramarines and wordbearers went nuclear at calth"

>>49610761
Actually I like the reason why they did the Ruinstorm, because it makes sense why the DA, UM and the BA didn't make a beeline towards Horus, but Imperium Secundus was a mistake and not doing anything with it was an even bigger one

>>49610433
Kiwi here

>>49610803

Two of us.

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>>49610761
I can just pretend it never happened, right?

RIGHT?

Ultras and Wordies going to work on each other at Calth and that being the reason they didn't show up at Terra was so much better than all the Ultima fuckery.

>>49610798
>because it makes sense why the DA, UM and the BA didn't make a beeline towards Horus
wasn't that already explained fairly well, though?

smurfs were on the other side of the galaxy and got surprise attacked by the word bearers

bangles and dangles weren't going to run off and fight all of the traitors at once because despite how badass they are that would be stupid because they already know what happened at istvaan

>>49610860
They got half their force destroyed; true- but then why didn't they rush to Terra? Sure, Roboute fought Alpharius but why didn't he drop shit and head directly to Terra with the Lion is a gaping plot hole.

At least now they have an excuse

>>49610849
You really can't; because a full third of the Legions have something to do with it

>>49607033
Mars Pattern Warlord Titans are nice and all, but are they going to release the full Lucius Pattern Warlords?

>>49610896
Looking at it in the big picture you could argue that the smurfs only lost half their strength, despite originally being twice the size of a regular legion too.

Most legions lost at least two thirds of their force, some were practically wiped out.

>>49610896
>but then why didn't they rush to Terra?
because the heresy didn't take that long. By the time they finished up in ultramar, the siege was already taking place. That is, literally, the reason why Horus went so far as to send the smurfs over there before hitting them with the largest legion at his disposal.

>Sure, Roboute fought Alpharius but why didn't
that's in the scouring, not the heresy

>>49610905

Probably not. Maybe for the new Epic game but not Resin Toddler sized

Molds cost fat stacks

>>49610998
>resin toddler sized

audible lel

Has anyone read Weregeld, and what's the story like?

>>49609226
Does that mean it does well or?

>>49610976
Even in the old fluff it took 7 years; now it's only 2 years longer

>that's in the scouring, not the heresy

no, you might need to brush up on your old fluff.

In the old fluff Alpha Legion wasn't at Terra because they were engaged in delaying tactics with Guilliman and his sons

>>49611217
I have.

Some truly sad and touching moments; especially between Corax and Russ; but the ending is the biggest ass pull ever; second only to Angels of Caliban (also written by Thorpe) and he makes Corax into a huge asshole

>>49611417
>In the old fluff Alpha Legion wasn't at Terra because they were engaged in delaying tactics with Guilliman and his sons
nah

>However, it is not thought that Alpharius was blindly following Horus, for he seemed to have his own agenda. He relished every battle against loyalist Space Marines as the ultimate test of military skill. Again and again the Alpha Legion proved they were the match of the other legions. They started going out of their way to find Space Marine opponents, and inflicted stinging defeats on the loyalist White Scars at Tallarn, a Space Wolves company at Yarant and other legions at dozens of smaller outposts. Well before the Warmaster's forces reached Terra, the Alpha Legion had become separated, but continued to wage war on all that they came across. Even after the defeat of Horus on Terra, the Alpha Legion continued on unchecked, apparently inventing objectives with absolutely no connection to the rebellion as a whole. They moved into the galactic east towards, whether by coincidence or design, the Ultramarines Legion. The Ultramarines had been posted on he Eastern Fringe when the Heresy began, and were racing back to the Segmentum Solar, enraged at the treachery of their brother Space Marines and the Warmaster's connivance to keep them too far away to affect the outcome. It is possible that Alpharius deliberately sought out the Ultramarines, that he wished to confront Roboute Guilliman in battle and prove the superiority of his tactics. Other theories suggest that the Ultramarines tracked down the Alpha Marines, seizing the opportunity to be revenged on one of the Traitor Legions. But, however it came about, the two Space Marine legions met in battle on the world of Eskrador.

>Even after the defeat of Horus on Terra, the Alpha Legion continued on unchecked, apparently inventing objectives with absolutely no connection to the rebellion as a whole

>>49611440
>but the ending is the biggest ass pull ever; second only to Angels of Caliban (also written by Thorpe) and he makes Corax into a huge asshole

Tell me more please.

>>49611466
Then what was Roboute doing with all his sons prior to that? At least Russ and the Lion were slowly heading there but Russ insisted on liberating worlds; now Guilliman doesn't have an excuse

>>49611509
Do you want the full story or just the ending and Corax being an asshole?

>>49611514
>Then what was Roboute doing with all his sons prior to that?
fighting the word bearers? It's the only 1:1 all-out legion fight in the entire heresy.

It's probably too late now, but here's the finished White Dwarf pdf.

https://www.mediafire.com/?zm71nli980zr97h

Cropping is a bitch

>>49611536
If he was fighting the Word Bearers; then they wouldn't be on Terra during the Siege

>>49611536
Except for all the World Eaters and Shattered Legion elements that found themselves in the 500 worlds.

>>49611529

Both, if you can please. I trust the people on here to inform me as to whether a book is good or not.

>>49611564
>If he was fighting the Word Bearers; then they wouldn't be on Terra during the Siege
except
>While Kor Phaeron set his men upon Calth, Lorgar was leading the rest of the Legion against Terra.

also before you mention "but then the ultramarines would have the numerical advantage"
>Upon its surface, the Word Bearers fought the Ultramarines to a standstill. The traitors held superiority in numbers, weaponry and brutality, but the Ultramarines would never give in. As driven as the warriors of Lord Kor Phaeron were, they could not dislodge the Ultramarines, many of whom had once called the planet home.

>>49611572
we're talking old fluff here, not black library fluff

>>49611605
Nah, that requires disregarding FW lore, which is not something I'm willing to do. Old lore can be tossed.

>>49611582
Alright.

The book starts 6 years into the Heresy; with all of the Raven Guard being jaded and vengeful against the traitors. Horus has already penetrated into the Segmentum Solar; and his other brothers are not far behind. Corax finds out that he plans to invade Beta Garmon; which is only several light years separated from Terra; so with its fall Terra's Siege is almost ensured. The IF captain and the custodes attached with him urge him to either head back to Terra or to Beta Garmon; Corax tells them that he still wants to proceed with the guerilla warfare. Also there's mention of the Ruinstorm abating; but it's merely a throw away

They meet up with a SW watch pack that was originally sent to watch over Horus but since he turned traitor they have been fucking around. They retrieve an specially forged ax from a storage world for Russ; tells Corax that the wolf lord plans to assault Horus head on and if he wants to they'll be waiting for them at Yarant. To add to this, the raptors are mutating at an advanced pace and one of them feels guilty for having killed the watch pack sent to watch over Corax (which happens in Raptor). He tells Corax and he's disturbed

The army guy that had the vision that led Branne and his men to Isstvan to save Corax dreams of wolves being slaughtered by snakes, and tells Corax this. Finding out that the only reason he was saved was because of a warp dream; he sends the army guy and his entire battle unit to Beta Garmon; which is an almost certain death. Then he gathers every non-RG and RG librarian and sends them to Terra before heading to Yarant to save his brother

1/2

>>49611630
that's fine

Dude told me to brush up on my old lore, and I showed him that I did not.

>>49611734
Gotcha. My apologies.

>>49611702
On Yarant the wolves have been absolutely decimated; and Russ lies gravely wounded. The Raven Guard perform a combat drop and throw back momentarily the combined WE, TS and AL offensive. He finds Russ on the edge of conscience; and has a break down while craddling his head and reveals his thoughts that all of them are no better than the Raptors; i.e. monstrosities forged of warpcraft and genetic manipulation. Russ tries to stand up but passes out. The Space Wolves are fatalistic and are preparing for a last stand; and refuse to be evacuated

Corax makes the decision to stay and die with them; and orders the Raptors to do as well. He hands off command to Arendi, and tells them to head for the Throneworld. Then he goes full nuclear; finally freeing all his inhibitions and slaughtering an entire battalion of World Eaters singlehandedly. Suddenly he changes his mind and realizes that his death here will change nothing; and convinces the Wolves that this death is not a noble one; but rather a far better death would be to take the fight to the traitors.

The epilogue happens a decade after; with Corax initiating the Raptor purge and begins with Hef; the guy that slaughtered the watch pack

It's got a lot of solid and sad moments; but it shits the bed at the end

>>49611803
for what it's worth I like the FW books quite a bit, I just can't stand the BL novels

>>49611809

How does it shit the bed?

>>49611839
I take the good with the bad. The nice thing about "the truth" when it comes to 30k is that it doesn't matter.

>>49611854
That second to last paragraph seems pretty shitty to me.

>>49611886

And how is Corax an asshole? By purging all the Raptors?

>>49611545
Thanks man, yeah don't worry cropping next time, people can't complain that badly, and scans are never a good substitute for the real thing.
And sorry to be a dick but could you download this and upload it to mediafire for our mobile brethren to read
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>>49611854

Well they go from an three full novellas of Corax being troubled by all the shit he's seen and the stuff he's done, culminating with him and the raptors deciding to die with his brother and the Space Wolves; then has him randomly change his mind and decides to leave

>>49611900
By sending the army dude and his cohort to their deaths simply because he confessed to warp dreams and exiling the non-RG and librarians to Terra

>>49611900
>>49611925
That seems in line with a primarch who still believed pretty strongly in the Imperial Truth. About on par with Dorn's reaction to what Sigismund did.

>>49611925

What is the asspull, if I may ask? It sounds like they were surrounded by enemies and just escaped somehow?

>>49611854
OH NO, WEEZZA GONNA DIE
OH NONO, I KILL ALL DA WORLD EATERS BY MISTAKE
THISA VERY VERY BAD

>>49611942
How is it on par with what Dorn did? Dorn simply told him off in private because he refused a direct order; this guy saved his and his legion's life and he thanks him by sending him to his death

>>49611945
It's two fold.

One's how Corax deals with his internal issues after a good old slaughter of World Eaters.

The second one is how desperate everything seems; with one of the legionnaires even mentioning that punching in through the traitor fleet was the easy part; to somehow evacuating the wolves and themselves

>>49611921
I don't follow.
You want me to download the entire mega directory to put on mediafire?

>>49611984
Dorn disowned Sigismund. To an IF, that's way worse than death.

>>49612007
And Corax sent tens of thousands of men to death because their commander saved his life; how doesn't that make him an asshole?

>>49612047
Corax has done that several times, Gate 13, sending most of the remaining Terrans off to die in the ass end of no where.

>>49612090
Gate 42 was justified because the Terrans supported Horus' plan to charge the guns; therefore they should be the ones to do it.

Sending legionaries on far flung crusades isn't anything unusual.

>>49611987
No just the genestealer cult codex, and put that on mediafire if it's not too much of a hassle

So we can all agree that this year

1. Path of Heaven
2. Praetorian of Dorn
3. Angels of Caliban

Right?

Anyone get a lemon rust model yet?

Did he come with rules or is it just the model atm

>>49612219
Just the model.

Rules never, ever

>>49612110
Because someone agreed with someone elses plans over yours is not a reason to send them all to die.

It was a power play plain and simple, Corax is petty.

>>49612358
Which one are you talking about? Corax gave the volunteers at Gate 42 the choice to partake in the mission. He didn't send anyone to die there. He would've preferred if none of them went.

>>49612358
>hey you should storm this breach
>no thanks faм that's not really my forte
>but you must; I'm warmaster
>hmm what do you think my terran sons
>yes daddy it's a great idea
>ok since you like it so much you're going to be doing it
>WAAAAAH NOT FAIR

What's petty is having others die for plans you supported

Why don't we hear more from traitor loyalists? I mean, we have marines like Loken, Garro, Dantioch, and all them, but I can't think of any traitor loyal marines?

>>49612433
Off the top of my head there are only two RG I can think of

>Nathian in Ravenlord
>Alastor Rushal in Prince of Crows

And I suppose the White Scars that supported Horus would count as well; but they all felt bad about it and changed back to loyal.

Not to mention nearly all of the traitors were boring as fuck with the exception of Little Horus

>>49612433
Because all the loyalist have a superior character and morale ofcourse !

This is why the traitor legions are more interesting, besides maybe DA with half their legion going rogue and rampant autism

>>49612433
Few more have been shown in BL

>Barthusa Narek, the Word Bearer who tried to kill Logar to drag his Legion out of damnation
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Barthusa_Narek

>Fel Zharost, Chief Librarian of the Night Lords who gets depressed and goes AWOL. Later gets recruited into the Knights-Errant.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fel_Zharost

>Revuel Arvida. The Thousand Son who joins the White Scars and also joins the Knights-Errant
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Revuel_Arvida

>Narik Dreygur, the Iron Warrior Warsmith who joins the Salamanders after he gets pissed off at his Alpha Legion allies using him as cannon fodder. Not really loyal but o well.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Narik_Dreygur

>>49612433
>>49612524
O wait I misread your post as "traitor legion loyalists"

Nevermind

The only loyalist legion traitor I can think of is the Raven Guard who joined the Night Lords and the White Scars led by Hasik that tried to join Horus.

>>49612524
>Narik Dreygur, the Iron Warrior Warsmith who joins the Salamanders
"joins"

it's implied the salamanders dreadnought might have mindfucked him, and that his whole cult of personality/psychic mindfuckery might become a bad thing for the salamanders in the future

>>49612509
>traitor legions are more interesting

In order

>dude debauchery lmao
>dude small penis lmao
>dude terrorists lmao
>dude rage issues lmao
>dude Saddam lmao
>dude just fuck my shit up
>kind of decent
>dude daddy issues lmao
>dude james bond lmao

>>49610433
I bear the Word for Canada.

/hhg/, I've bought 2 betrayal at Calth sets and kitbashed another 10 tac marines for an ultramarine army, what else should I consider getting for it? Is there anything I should drop from them?

>>49612607
>> R E A D . T H I S . B E F O R E . P O S T I N G
>HHG FAQ
>http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
>Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
>http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

is ollanius pious a Dirty French Cathar, or a Catholic

>>49612667
He's a catholic but they call them something weird that sounds like Cathar.

But fuck you for reminding me of that shitty plot line

>>49612553

Well loyalist aren't any better

>dude autism
>dude gotta go fast
>dude furries
>muh walls dude
>menstruation marines
>dude lose head in critical situation
>dude muh empire
>dude not the children
>dude Linkin Park

>>49612667
He's the last Christian in the Galaxy. Everyone mocks him for being religious in the age of the Imperial Truth (individual faith isn't outlawed, just organized religion) and thus he became known as "the pious".

c wut GeeDubs did thar

>>49612551
He's just using a care bear stare on him basically.

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>>49612769
>MFW
Oh, how clever, BL! This amuses Spiidesh greatly! I am clearly not filled with sarcasm!

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>>49610433
America. Also, IF a shit.

>>49610433
Alphaustralian

>>49610433
australia
psychotic, terrifying criminals from a land with rich mineral deposits
Seems to fit

>>49612190

Path of Heaven - First two thirds of Praetorian of Dorn - Angels of Caliban - Last third of Praetorian of Dorn.

>>49613841

I enjoy Chris Wraight's writing.

>>49612524

You forgot Kyr Vhalen and Auric Saxton, Both Warshiths, both Loyalists and both utter badasses.

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>>49613854

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>>49610433
American, just like my legion.

>>49612656
That pertains mostly to doubts about rules, and the tactica tells you what does what, so it doesn't really answer his question.
>>49612607
You should remember there are a few things you should try to bring to the TT:
>Anti AV14 Armoured Ceramite
>Anti horde
>AP2
If you're footslogging, you should consider bringing
>Anti artillery
If you have artillery of your own, you should consider
>Anti-deepstrikers
And possibly some anti-Air.

You may not be able to fill them all in a single 2k list, so focus on fluffyness first and on power levels second, and beware of Mechanicum monstrosities. Not saying they're 30k's Tau...but you don't go at them the same way you do against marines.

As for how you can get some of that and the specifics of the UM...that's what the Tactica page is trying to be for, so give it a read. That is in the OP.

>>49610433
Israeli. We're all Alpha Legion

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>>49610433
Australianacanicum here, deathworld environment for sure

Lorgar did nothing wrong

>>49614250
was thinking more Shattered Legions

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>>49610433
Canadian World Eater reporting in.
>>49612599
Funnily enough, I just played against a Word Bearer force today, it was a good time. I'll give you guys a quick and dirty battle report if you want

>>49610433
Pakistan

>>49614300
I'm always interested, especially for how World Eaters play.

>>49614250

Have faith, Word Bearer.

>>49614300
The Bearer is interested. Do tell, brother.

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>>49610433
Norwegian

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>>49614452
>>49614334
We roll Ambush for the deployment and Onslaught for the mission. I take the role of the ambushed, and he takes the ambusher. I deploy shooty marines in some of the ruins in the field's middle, alongside my 5-man autocannon squad. A 15-man despoiler squad stares out at a 20-man squad of Word Bearers from below a ruined arc on my right flank, and my Spartan, carrying a payload of Red Butchers and my Praetor, protect my flank from a squad each of Gal Vorbak, Ashen Circle, and a Land Raider Proteus (being run empty, with lascannons just fulfilling an anti-tank role). As well, the Bearers are fielding a Vindicator and Contemptor Dreadnought in the lower left corner of the board, roughly next to a Dread of my own.

Word Bearers go first, and don't do a whole hell of a lot apart from parking their ashen circle up about a half foot away from the front of my Spartan, messing around with witchcraft, and engaging in some ranged skirmishing. My turn comes around, and I move my despoilers within a 6 inch charge of the Word Bearers blob. My Spartan immediately manages to immobilize itself on a piece of terrain, but happily my Butchers were able to disembark within charge range. They charge the Ashen Circle and kill them to a man, losing the Praetor in the process. On the other side of the board, my Dreadnought kills the Vindicator, and stares down his Word Bearers counterpart.

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>>49614944
Forgot to say; my Despoilers tried to charge, requiring about a 5 or a 6 or something. They rolled a 4, leaving their balls swinging in the breeze for the next turn.

>>49614944
>>49614983
It niggles me that he's using CSM tacticals, but beyond that, shit's going well. Carry on.

>>49614983
are those snapfitmarines on the left? either way your world eaters look great. are you the one telling me not to do world eaters if I want an easy paint scheme because white takes forever?

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>>49614983
The beginning of the next turn goes on about as you'd expect; the Word Bearers tactical squad fires off Fury of the Legion (and some Psyker bullshit), finishing off the entire Despoiler squad save for a lone Apothecary, who proceeds to run away. His Contemptor charges at mine, shooting off his Kheres Ass Cannon in the process, but doing no wounds in close combat. They'll continue fighting it out 1 on 1 for about 3 turns, hilariously.

On my turn, the Red Butchers get a charge in on his Gal Vorbak. They die after about 2 turns, killing every one but his champion in the process. Overall, they got well more than their points worth back. Shooting is lackluster; my autocannons and tactical squad combined do about 2 wounds to Zardu Layak, who had invincibility cast on them earlier. A squad of my terminators deep strikes in (my Praetor rolled Void-born on the warlord table), and camps my objective in his lines after his Tactical squad runs away from them to go claim theirs.

I need Smug Perturabo in 96x64 pixels.

>>49614983
>>49615136
>>49615154

He's absolutely rocking those snapfits.

He can just say it's Mark V or something since Mark V looks very similar to Mark VII.

>>49615467
Still niggles me, but I do like his colour scheme. Mine is so ridiculously complicated that the idea of making a mistake and having to fix it horrifies me.

Just finished watching the DOOM playthrough.

That ending is absolute crap and is sequal-baiting. Disgusting.

I loved it though.

I should have been painting.

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>>49615154
I think they are snapmarines, yeah. And I wouldn't tell anyone not to try to paint World Eaters; just be careful and follow the teaching of Duncan.
>>49615136
C'est la vie. He has a bunch of BaC shit he's in the process of working with.

>>49615215
Zardu Layak works his way through one of my Tactical squads in one turn and my Autocannons in the next, and summons off a unit of Bloodletters afterwards. His tactical squad works its way across the back of the board behind my Spartan (which got immobilized on top of his objective, and had killed his Proteus a while back). The duel between the two Contemptors finally ends; mine dies, but immobilizes his in the process; he's left permanently staring up at the objective I'm just barely holding with my terminators, unable to shoot them. Good times.

On my turn, I finally kill off Zardu in close combat with my Tac squad, and march them as fast as they can go away from the Bloodletters following behind. Luckily, they're hampered by some forest terrain, and I can beat a fast retreat towards his objective to deny it before the game ends.

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>>49615215
Also, here's a pic of the lone, cowardly apothecary sprinting as fast as he can across the board, solely for the purpose of denying points for Attrition.

>>49615652

Run, little spess muhreen! RUN!

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>>49615652
>>49615614
Here's the Dreadnought Duel, with Zardu Layak punishing my squad of Tacs in the background.

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>>49615670
I wish I had 30k opponents around me. I'm jealous. and thanks for the advice. Love the World Eaters color scheme, not a fan of all the blood/gore/chainaxes though.

>>49615670
>Dreadnought duel
YES. ALL OF MY YES.

tfw closet WE and WB at the same time.

Hey guys, I've been working on trying to get a 2K IF list set up with Stone Gauntlet, but from what I've tried and what I've been reading, it might be a little harder to do at that point level. Is there a feasible list I can built that won't get its shit pushed in every time, or should I go more generic and work towards a higher point level?

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>>49615614
>>49615670
Anyways, my last Tac squad successfully runs away from the Bloodletters, shooting down most of them before claiming their ground on the Aqulia. The Word bearers squad bears down on them after taking care of the immobilized Spartan (which, in retrospect, they shouldn't have been able to do; we thought Krak Grenades were strength 8). They have a Chaplain with them; the Word bearer's last HQ. He kills off the lone Apothecary (RIP) with his disgusting warpcraft, and charges the squad into my Tacticals. He challenges and fails to kill my sergeant, and combat sticks. The next turn, his bloodletters charge in, and I finally loose combat and break; however, I kept them far enough off the objective for long enough that they weren't able to claim it before the game was over. He piles in his units about 4 inches away from the objective, and I win 8-3. It was a pretty fucking good game.

>>49615777
>VIIth Trips
Auric comment, how about running Pride of the Legion? Your sniper vets are good and got buffed, your termies are probably the best in 30k and have access to shields. Dunno what you're looking for specifically, but Fists are flexible.
Unlike Rogal "Final Warning = friendly negotiation" Dorn.

>>49615829
>we thought Krak Grenades were strength 8
In all good spirits, how can anyone be so utterly ignorant about this game? Is it nor normal to at least remember where is what on the rulebook, or being able to use an index/Ctrl+F ?

>>49615896
Presumably go krak missiles and krak grenades confused.

>>49615726
That's a pretty good idea for thudd guns/rapier mortars in an IM/WC army.

Also a Kiwi btw.

>>49615859
Well specifically, I was hoping to start a 2K Stone Gauntlet list, but it feels like I don't end up with enough on the table to get shit done. Guess I may have to aim higher in points or go with a less stringent RoW.
what's the average game go for these days? Is 2K too low to aim for?

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>>49615896
We both just got the profile conflated with krak missiles, and didn't really bother to check to make sure we were right. Didn't make any difference in the end, happily.

>>49615726
Chainaxes are kind of a necessity, but no one's going to hold a gun to your head and force you to cover them in gore.

>>49616059
>not drilling the barrels

So close WE-anon, so close.

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>>49616059
>no one's going to hold a gun to your head and force you to cover them in gore.
mfw
>>49616037
2k and upwards.

>>49616059
the brown pouches give a great contrast to the colors, good idea! and thanks for the inspiration. Dammit I'm having such a hard time deciding between red pauldroned Iron Hands and that exact scheme for World Eaters. I decided against Blood Angels because not having legion specific units kinda kills it for me.

>>49610433

I should probalby say snowsomali or someshit to avoid PC-police.

>>49616215
why?

>>49610696

This is why you need to burn tents to keep everyone fighting them.

>>49616191
KA, there is something wrong with you.

You're not bad, just really indecisive and have some weird IW. :^)

I say just go with the World Eaters and buy chainaxes and MkII/V galore, and Blood for the Blood God technical paint you wuss. I don't like gore either, but you're taking it too far with simple blood paints. On miniatures. Seriously man, you're a huge wuss.

OR go with the REGULAR IH scheme and the tutorial I've sent you repeatedly you fool.

>>49616233

Sweden.
But to be fair, no snow yet, can't say the same about somalis though.

>>49616294
Seconding this. Knight Anon, you've got to get your dick out of your ass and decide on a proper way to do your shit and pick an army.

So here's what you do.

Spend about 20 minutes on this page: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Horus-Heresy

Go through the legions, look at their pretty pictures, and whatever makes your dick tingle the most is what you play. Who cares if Blood Angels don't have unique units yet; they have special rules, so roll with it and trust in getting legion units later.

>>49616294
He said he was loyal, so WE are out of the question. And this whole mess started because he fucked up a black paint scheme (in all fairness, it was easy to get it wrong), so he'll be reclutant about painting something black again. Yes, I'm deciding for him because he's like a child.
Dubs pick his legion :^)

>>49616411
Yeah but I mean, why would the internet police be after you?
>No snow yet.
So? I h8 cold... but snow looks cool. Never touched natural snow, it once snowed at my school but I was back home

>>49616457

PC as in Politically Correct. not Personal Computer.

Yeah, snow is in the way, gets everywhere and gets everything wet, people who want it to snow haven't held a shovel for enough hours of their lives.

>>49610433
Croatia, undecided legion.

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>>49616482
>Combating frozen precipitation with power shovels
My desire for snow grows yet stronger. Also, fuck politically correct, that's nothing but pussyfication of the language, nigger-kun.

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>>49610433
Fingolia

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>>49616457
how could you hate this paint scheme though!

>>49616950
Because you'll mess it up somehow.

>>49616950
I don't hate it, I was just saying he'll nev--
KA, are those really yours?

>>49616966
>>49616997
I wish. some guy off of B&C. that's the scheme I'd try to follow though, using the War Painter's youtube tutorial plus a normal red for the shoulders

>>49617026
Oh. Well, no matter, I still have faith in you :)
Get yer talons bloody, m8.

>>49616023

I hope you're not my brother. He's long been speaking about building a Raven Guard force. What company is your force from?

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>>49614276
This is the accurate representation of countries by Legion

>>49617083
I almost took that chart seriously.

But that's wrong, anon. IW are Americans.

>XBOXHUEG ammo stockpiles
>Answer to everything is hit it with artillery.
>Then use more artillery.

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>>49617109
And russians don't use artillery and massed infantry heedless of casualties, mostly going with LolResupply because LolRussians?
>>49617083
>DG poo in loo
Being able to drink poison doesn't mean designated poison shi--
...never mind. Poison ships designate entire worlds :^)

>>49617043
I don't really have a company in mind. I don't think I'm your brother.

Has he got any cool ideas for his RG?

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>>49617083
>Word Bearers
mfw

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Fuck this thing. Fuck this thing to death.

>>49617176

115th Company. Terrans, the rejects of the Legion, led by a half-crazy Maori Captain with anger issues and saddled with all the equipment no-one else wanted. So Mk II Armour, Cataphractii, Phobos Bolters, etc.

Think Autek Mor's Red Talons, but as Raven Guard.

>>49617275
But that's just regular Terran Raven Guard before Corax exiled them.

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>>49617275
>saddled with all the equipment no-one else wanted.
>Mk II Armour
>Cataphractii
>Phobos Bolters, etc.
>equipment no-one else wanted.
Gee, I didn't know RG were supposed to have shit taste. Then again...

>>49617293

You've never read the Raven Guard Fluff? They dumped all their Mk II and Cataprhactii when Corax was found because it wasn't stealthy enough.

>>49617275
>MkII
>Cataphractii
>Phobos Bolters
>Etc.
I'll gladly take them off of you, since you have terrible taste.

>>49617310
Yes, that's what I'm saying!
>>49617315
Agreed. Give me your unwanted. Onto the uncaring anvil of war.

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>>49610018
was still an aight read tho

>>49617260
Recast? Pro-tip, if you're going to buy vehicles from diggity diggity dogshit recasters then buy two and use the best pieces to make one decent one. Consider using the other one as terrain, or a test canvas to experiment on.

Not going to lie man, that Spartan looks like arse. It's warped to shit and none of the panels are flush with the others. It makes me sad to look at it.

>>49617275
My gf cautioned me about using Maori themes in my models, said it could cause some offense. I'm really keen to see/hear how your brother executes this idea

>>49617358
>My gf cautioned me about using Maori themes in my models, said it could cause some offense.
PC culture is killing me slowly

>>49617358
>Consider using the other one as terrain, or a test canvas to experiment on.
This is actually a good idea. I only buy legit stuff, but I have no qualms about buying recasts for terrain pieces.

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>>49617358
>My gf cautioned me about using Maori themes in my models, said it could cause some offense

>>49617392
Yeah, but we actually like our Maori people here, in comparison to how Aborigines and Native Peoples are treated elsewhere. I don't want to piss any of them off by giving them Moko tattoos or simple kowhaiwhai patterns on their armour.

>>49617393
By far the best use for them. As above has proven, they're rarely good enough to be passed off as legit.

>>49617358
It makes me sad to look at it too. I bought it off a guy in this very thread who was selling his unbuilt chinacast shit on the cheap; if I didn't get a bunch of quality stuff and extra bits at the price I was able to get them at, I'd be salty as hell about this thing.

As it is, I'm just going to do my best to cram everything together, greenstuff the cracks to my best ability, give it a semi-decent paintjob and replace the thing as soon as I can.

>>49617437
Use a fucking heat gun you savage.

>>49617260
Should probably put the front doors in before you glue that thing together. Also wtf are you going to do about the sponsons? Is that piece already glued down?

>>49617260
>This is why people think recasts are shitty.

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>>49617260
if thats a Z spartan you have my sympathies, I recently built two of them because lol $50aud pricetag. My heatgun was the only thing that saved them and a dark paint job.

>>49617673
damn that's such a cheap price. I was thinking of mass ordering Z or CCON mark 2/3 armor but I'm afraid of how the detail will hold up and how brittle it might be. models breaking after painting them is my greatest fear.

>>49617693
try CC instead of Z, with his specials its usually a similar price to Z but CC's new resin is soooooo much better and has way less or no release agent on it and zero resin smell. I recently got a fireraptor off him and it was in such good nick I had it built in one sitting and didn't even need to wash it before assembly.

>>49617427
speak for yourself, no one from north of the rimutakas likes 'em much. anon can offend away.

>>49617735
CC won't get back in contact with me. No idea what the current pass is, getting annoyed.

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>>49610433
>tfw Dutch ravenfag

>>49615829
>we thought Krak Grenades were strength 8

triggered

>>49610433

British BAfag, thinking of doing 30 MkIV as the start of a meme-legion army to give me a painting challenge while I wait the rest of my natural life for FW to get round to book 8/9.

Do I have to read all the HH books in release order?

Can I simply skip the books I don't care about and still get the gist of it?

>>49618325
You talking about Forge World or Black Library? If FW, you should read them in order since it's a linear progression, except for some of Book 6 when they jump into the Scouring.

If Black Library, I gave up trying to read it in any sort of order after the first 5 books. Just read whatever interests you storywise.

>>49618347
I meant BL, thanks for the info.

Just glancing over the 38(or so) books released has my head spinning, especially since they seem to be all over the place in terms of timeline.

>>49610433
German Luna Wolf guy here.

"H-Hey, not all Sons of Hous are bad!"

>Fucks up traitors using the same dickish tactics as the SoH.

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First 1500 pts painted.

Transfers on their way. Might need to do some more highlights as well. Currently making two 15 man tactical squads to go along with the 3 veteran tactical squads I now have.

>>49618375
BL used to have a pretty decent reading order on their website, now it was changed and don't really know how accurate it is. If you really want, I think someone here posted a very convoluted diagram showing how all the books were related. Not sure it'd work as a reading order per se...

>>49617083
>Iron Hands
>France

FRANCE? Care to explain yourself anon?

>>49618462
good stuff broseph! are you looking to expand your transport options next as well? or is your meta still mostly infantry?

>>49610433
Finland

>>49607057
get fuked kid

>>49618511
I might splooge my potential stipend on Spartans and Rhinos. Also gonna try to make a stormraven into a storm eagle w. chapterhouse kit and one paint stripped LR in to a LR IIb w. chapterhouse kit as well. If only Forge world sold only the resin bits for those two as an upgrade.

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How do I paint metallic Alpha Legion /hhg/?

>>49614207
thanks for that, I'll give that a read

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>>49618530
if you can outflank those rhinos with a multi melta and some nasty vets, it is hilarious. I would caution the spartan purchase currently as they are a huge dollar and points investment, proxy one for a while and make certain you want one.

>>49618535
Base coat silver. Then use Tamiya Clear Blue or similar type of paint through an airbrush over the silver. Also use some green to give it some variation.

>>49618530
I really like the Mastodon, but its so expensive point wise and cant be fielded with the LoW as HQ organisation chart change.

Life is suffering.

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Oh yeah speaking of china cast shit, I am trying to get these fuckers painted and based by the 15th, I swear they were designed to catch on errant fingers and sleeves and fly across my room at 100kpm

>>49618664
I love these rocket-claw-monkeys, good job!

>>49618375
What Legions/storylines are you interested in? Something for this thread to do over the coming months could be to establish reading lists for each faction.

What are people's opions about using 20 infiltrating/scouting Assault marines with meltabombs to deal with superheavy vehicles ? Also add combat shields for the added survivability or just go full Aloha Snackbar with them ?

>>49618943
I thought new rules mean you can only use on grenade per combat phase.

>>49619083
First Draft FAQs aren't official yet.

>>49619083
That was only the draft, the actual errata hasn't been released yet.

Though I can imagine Tau, Eldar and other vehicle, walker and monsterous creature spamming players are all to eager to use them already. I really hope that doesn't make it in the final errata as infantery is useless enough already as it is.

>>49616085
I hate people like you.
> Oh noes why you no drill hole in fake plastic gun?!?

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>>49619298
Not him but I guess they want it to look good.

>>49619311
>ancient shit tier box naught thats highlights are too thick
> look gud
Pick one

>>49610433
French.

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>>49619353
Do not speak ill of the boxman' design, but I don't mind the highlights. It's not his fault he's not a Contemptor. Chaos Contemptors are rare, Anon, probably rare enough to be deserving of being a plot critical character. And if the boxnaught triggers you, hold on to your butt for this.

>>49619311
Why is the plasma barrel so large, I thought it was meant to be a pinhole the plasma came out of and then expanded massively

>>49619353
Don't you dare!

>>49619444
I believe it to be an older design, or knowing Chaos it probably grows when that dread's murderboner is activated.

>>49619465
I imagine an IW shooty-box or WE rage-cage are not only fluffy, but fun.

I like a bit of randomisation in their rules via the ol d6.

Rolling for shooting frenzy or the melee variation can be hella fun.

>>49610433
German IF reporting in... we have an affinity for building walls.

>>49618569
I'll try that, thanks!

>>49610409
I just say fuck it and choose the thing I want to do. My army has 0 tanks. All my anti-tank comes from dreadnoughts and chainfists. Fuck it, I want to smash infantry and dammit I have that capability out the ass

>>49610560
This, if you have fun it does really matter if you win or lose.

>>49618429
>>Fucks up traitors using the same dickish tactics as the SoH.
They brought it upon themselves.

>>49619887
Luckily Merkel is now Ok with a wall being built in bulgaria,pretty hypocritical.

>>49620318
I still like the double-think.

>>49618499
>get knocked out of the war first
>extremely prideful but when push comes to shove fuck their shit up
>hotheaded

>>49616506
Dusk raiders were from Albania. Go with them

>>49610433
Amerifat reporting in.

How do people feel about the Mechanicum as a 30k faction?
I've really enjoyed playing Reductor lists as a getaway from my normal legion. However sometimes I get the feeling my gaming group isn't too happy playing against non-legion forces and don't consider them a proper 30k faction in their own right.

>>49620560
Albany, UK, anon.

>>49620573
They're fine unless you bring the full T7 W10000 Ripti--err, MC-wing. But the Reductor's gorillion tanks and restricted MCs are fine.
As long as you have AT out of the ass...
You pretty much MUST have "X" out of the ass to combat non-Taghmata Mechanicum.

>>49620573
Inherently there isn't anything wrong with AdMech being a faction in 30k. But it is rather clear that FW found it hard to balance them against the legions when they can't just base it on the same core of units.

>>49620573
What's your list like? I've been thinking of painting a Reductor force.

>>49620560
>>49620596
I second this, also potemtially albion.

>>49620573

I think with the recent point reduction to a lot of the legion stuff, they are in a much better spot balance wise than before.

An optimized list can be pretty brutal, but if the legion player knows he is going up against a ton of castellax it's going to be an easy win for him.

>>49620560
>>49620666
>>49620596
Not this shit again. It's clear it's meant to be Britain, in one story Garro returns to his homelands and it's Britain.

>>49620560
If I were to choose based on my location I'd go with Emperor's Children.

>>49620666
Satan tries to fool you, but DG is from Albany...in Australia :^)
>>49620657
I too would like to see such a list.

>>49620604
Been running thallax heavy lists with some krios support. I took an explorator with destructors once to try them out and my opponent nearly rage quit which in hindsight I totally understand.

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>>49614250
10/10

>>49618535
ANON'S SUPER SIMPLE ALPHA LEGION RECIPE:
1. Basecoat with Runefang Steel
2. Coat armor panels in a layer of Guilliman Blue glaze. Work it into the recesses. Add another layer of Guilliman blue to build it up.
3. Add a single layer of Waywatcher Green glaze onto the blue.
4. Pick out silver details on the armor with Runefang Steel. If you're using MkIV BaC marines, these will be the bonding studs, torso cables, pauldron edges, back of the knee, the little area of the backpack right behind the model's head etc.
5. Hit these silver areas with some Nuln Oil.
6. Edge highlight with Runefang steel. Focus on the arms and legs.

Wa la! Decent looking AL that are super easy.

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>>49610433
Turkish

>>49618499
Black and got btfo

>>49620657
>>49620737

So we mostly run 3k list at the moment, here's the one I've been messing around with lately:

-Archmagos Reductor (archmagos, abeyant, dinner skein, paragon blade, cyber familiar, machinator array, rad grenades)
Magos Ordinator (Ordinator, cyber familiar, mastercrsfted photon thruster)

-6 thallax (2 photon thrusters, tank hunters)
-6 thallax (2 photon thrusters, tank hunters)
-6 thallax (2 photon thrusters, tank hunters)
-20 thralls (Rite of pure thought, carapace armour, revenant alchemy)
-20 thralls (Rite of pure thought, carapace armour, revenant alchemy)

-6 ursarax (6 power fists)

- krios venator
-krios venator
-krios tank
-krios tank

-Knight Lancer

>>49620951
Are knights really the good stuff? Take the Maegara, you could bring more dakka in the form of Krios tanks.

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>>49620560
>>49620596
>>49620666
>>49620706
>>49620737

To put this to bed, once and for all (with new OC donut steel research) - Albia is in the UK, more specifically, it's Scotland.

The fluff specifically refers to Albia 'towering in the North Atlan wastes', which rules out Albania, and means it's on the North-Atlantic coast.

Alba is Gaelic for Scotland, and still used today.

Finally, and most importantly, the phrase 'caught red handed' is Scottish, first cropping up in legal documents to refer to people who poached from their neighbours. People like the border reivers, or raiders, who were known for crossing over to England to steal cattle and raid farms, often at dusk.

>>49621026
To be honest it's more for the love of the model than its effectiveness. I know I could get rid of it and have a squadron of siege tanks which would do more damage to an opponent but then I wouldn't have the lancer running down a flank and challenging a primarch or death star unit.

>>49621160
>once and for all
The same was said the previous time.

>>49621160
I am Satan and I agreed that it was in Bongistan, I just comunicated it badly.

>>49621160
Chill, everybody knows Albia is Albion, not Albany. Those guys are just kidding...right? Right?
>new research
Is that how kids call wikipedia these days? Ok noted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion

>>49621222

The Scotland/red-handed/border raiders/dusk bit is what I haven't seen anybody else put forward. It makes a lot of sense.

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>>49620870
>Yet you too are mistaken, "brother", following a traitorous fool looking for forgiveness when there is nothing to forgive, casting your lot with the dark powers that seek to enslave and destroy all, making your previous conquests even more meaningless. We razed planets so that the Imperium could rise from their ashes, but your very cause is a fool's endeavour. So, if you allied with the Warmaster to be freed from a tyrant who misused our legion, seeking for freedom I tell you: you just went from bad to worse.
>Our legion represents the power of Destruction, from that power a dedication to Duty is born, from that dedication the Foundations of the Imperium are laid, and in laying the foundations by removing what once was we Build and Safeguard the Imperium like no other, That is Who We Are. THIS IS THE UBREAKABLE LITANY, AND MAY IT BE FOREVER SO.
>Being an Iron Warrior is never surrendering, no matter the odds, to the bitter end. Ferrum Honore Veniat, traitor. No one can save you now.

Thought of the Day: A legionary's best friend is his bolter. >>49621507

>>49620914
Damn right, Harlem hell fighters were te best soldiers France ever had, even better than the Grandé Armée

>>49618664
I kind of wish that forgeworld did a conversion kit based on the Sicarians for them.

>>49616533
West Mongolia Best Mongolia.

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>>49621376
Your nonsense means nothing before the absolute will of Lord of Iron, you traitor.

Iron is the foundation of all Imperia whether you enthrone a corpse on top of it or not.

>Forgiveness.
Now that is unfortunate attempt of humor.
Iron does not forgive nor does it seek such frivolous concept.

Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness is the latest updated codex for Space Marine Legions, right?

Where do I buy one other than from Forge World?

>>49622764
You can get the ebook from iTunes. Otherwise ask your LGS and see if they do FW orders.

>>49621160
No albia is corruption of Albion, from 'perfidious Albion', Albion was Celtic for Britian (at least in one dialect even though they never formed a unified) therefore death guard are games workshop and Nathaniel garro is the guy who rebelled against the price coughing

>>49622962
Er strafe es!