Pathfinder General /pfg/

How do cartomancer witch work?
Spell Deck replace familiar but do they still have familiar ability?

If not, how would "The following familiar ability works differently for a cartomancer." even make sense??

Quick! What is the lewdest character concept you want to see or play with in /pfg/'s fluffy tail eastern adventure?

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>>49593470
Squirrel boy!

Which would you say is the best Elementalist School for the Wizard?

I'm partial to Void for those sweet save bonuses and Reveal Weakness

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>>49593506
Wood
You get Sirocco as a spell 2 LEVELS LOWERS
The only downside is you lose Glitterdust
But the ability to swap around good Wis, Dex, and Con bonuses is also good.

Does anyone have that initiating Owlbear homebrew?

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>>49593470
Be a sthein from Bloodforge. Those are cute sneks!

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>>49593549

>>49593619
Thanks, fampai.

>>49593547
Yeah, that looks pretty solid. I like the spell list sniping as well.

>>49593612
>>49593486

What if I want to play a man (male?)

>>49593671
You're in luck, someone is already playing a dog prince.

>>49593547
That Sirocco part was nerfed I think.

Why hasn't pfg put out a bestiary

>>49593687
>That Sirocco part was nerfed I think.
>Actually paying attention to errata
you funny guy anon.

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>>49593703
Monster creation rules aren't that precise, and anything we would write would be to powerful for a group of unoptimized PCs compared to a Paizo-made enemy of the same CR.

>>49593826
Laziness is a better reason.

I think pfg could put together a pretty neat PoW/SoP bestiary to help people run their 3pp campaigns if they tried.

Keyword is 'if'.

>>49593826
Then bump up the CR to Piazo levels?

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>>49593470

fiery dragon queen

>>49593203
Any inquisitions that help with AoOs ir combat maneuvers ?

>>49593928

Oh my god this, you'd think we would get at least one extremely voluptuous ara ara~ type, instead everyone's flat-chested and vaguely androgynous.

I need curves!

For the first time, my GM will allow me to play any Paizo race (with 15 RP limitation).

Are there any obsure and cool race that isn't Aasimar or Tiefling?

>>49593982

Tengu are very cool.

>>49593982
Nagaji

>>49593973

my character is a top heavy courtier, no worries

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>>49593973
>instead everyone's flat-chested and vaguely androgynous.
Tell me more.

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>>49593973

I'm basically playing this

What's the most fun way to play a storm caller? Lightening strikes, summoning rains and winds, thunder claps, so on. Preferably something then gets Storm Of Vengeance at the end.

>>49594056

Which character is yours?

>>49594073

I thought the Kitsune was tiny! Tiny!

>>49594163

The Nameless King is a fantastic example of a Storm King done right.

Ride the lightning, anon.

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>>49594174

I haven't chosen a race yet, though I lean towards kitsune. I'm waiting to learn more about the setting before I decide so that I can integrate her easily into the world without requiring the GM to mash an entire culture or historical timeline into it

>>49594187
Do you mean from Dark Souls 3? That's just a sword with a wind buff, and a big guy to swing it.

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So, since the whole class and its options are a huge mess of over saturated rules and talents, can someone give me me advice on Kineticists?

Are there any options, both 1pp and 3pp for being able to infuse an object with a kinetic blast and then remote detonating it at will?
I'm trying to build an Avant Guard with the Time element from KoP, and I wanna be able to use time explosions to make my enemies 「Bite the Dust」

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>>49593850
I have a few more initiating NPCs.

Where would we leave them?

>>49594190

The setting is clearly anthropomorphic with a hard focus on the Far East, such as Mongolia and China. Other cultures most likely exist, and from the existence of the Not!Silk Road you could probably play anything from an enterprising Westerner to a Persian brown-girl.

I'm incredibly tempted to play some sort of hardcore merchant, or missionary... I want to play *something* with a Y chromosome, I just can't figure out what!

>>49594203
Pretty sure one of the KoP books has a kinetic bomb infusion, but don't quote me.

>>49594201

The swordspear is explicitly imbued with the power of lightning, as the Nameless King was the heir of lightning and the God of Storms and War.

His first form was "The King of the Storm," anon.

>>49594234
>His first form was "The King of the Storm," anon.
That was the name of the Dragon

Also, it was less that the spear was imbued with lightning, and more that the Nameless King, being a direct son of Gwyn could conjure lightning at will and channel it through his spear and throw it as bolts

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>>49594069
that's not hot though. that's not hot at all. that's... it's lacking all the qualities that could make something hot one way or the other.

you know what else is flat-chested and of indeterminate gender?

>>49594221
How would a merchant work? Would you be allowed to sell at full price? PF doesn't seem like a game that allows for mercantilism.

>>49594221

she would be a servant of the not!china Imperial dynasty, then - and if I can select race it would be kitsune or human (the build is very feat starved).

>>49594203
Legendary Kineticists has a conductive crossbow that automatically adds the Snake infusion if you choose to fire a bolt with a loaded kinetic blast.

>>49594256
>That was the name of the Dragon

And the Dragon was subservient or at least the close ally and compatriot of the Nameless King, making the King by extension a lord of Storms.

>Also, it was less that the spear was imbued with lightning, and more that the Nameless King, being a direct son of Gwyn could conjure lightning at will and channel it through his spear and throw it as bolts

>A dragon hunting weapon from the age of the gods. The earliest form of the cross spear, serving as both a sword and a spear. Its owner was the Nameless King, a deific hunter of dragons. The swordspear is imbued with lightning, of which he was the heir.

The Unkindled One can use the spear to launch lightning bolts, which wouldn't be possible if it was merely the Nameless King doing it.

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>>49594283
>How would a merchant work? Would you be allowed to sell at full price? PF doesn't seem like a game that allows for mercantilism.

The rules allow for some degree of profit from exchanges, especially if you get the right traits for it (such as For The Money.)

I think it would also be really neat-o if I dual-apped with someone so my merchant had a buddy.

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>>49594315

my diplomancer would be happy to help you by bending over tables as she convinces your trading partner to lower his prices just a liiiiittle bit more...

>>49593470
An orc who murders your waifus and desecrates the corpses.

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>>49594299
>The Unkindled One can use the spear to launch lightning bolts,
You forget, you don't pick up the spear, but rather have it transposed from the King's soul.

The Art of Transposition is the ability to coalesce the essence and memories of the soul into a tangible form based upon the memory and inherent nature of the soul itself. Hence why you can transpose spells from souls, as well as weapons and items associated with the soul in question, like how you can transpose Fists from the Demon soul, the Chain ring from Gundyr, the spear and sword from the Rotted Greatwood, and Havels ring.

As such the transposed item in question is not the actual item itself, but rather the impressed and coalesced legends, memories, and concepts of the item impressed in the soul. Because the Nameless King was a master of lightning and his soul was saturated with its power from being born of Gwyn, his essence and memory was coalesced into a spear much like the one he used, and when using it to attack with or conjure lightning, you are really evoking the memory of his Soul and the power within it.

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>>49593973
The majority of people playing in this game are varying degrees of closeted, anon.

Or they think like pic related.

Possibly both.

>>49594315
I actually asked about making a character with a friend, because I really want to know if like, there can be 2-3 people who roll together. I'm not massively interested in being a weeb, though I don't begrudge folks that are weeb when the game explicitly is "no-holds barred" and completely accepting, so we were thinking about making a pair of Robin Hood or merchant types.

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>>49594345

I think this might be the start of a wonderful and very profitable partnership.

>>49594404
With 3pp allowed, I guess you could take Spark of Creation and For the Money, go Artisan for more discounts, and wrack up cash pretty effectively. You could only sell what you create or get from battle or theft for a profit, so no buying low, selling high without GM fiat.

I might ask the GM if a merchant is possible. If not, making a smith for one of the kingdoms could be chill. Anybody know the time scale on this?

>>49594234
Okay, now how about in Pathfinder? You know, like the general we're in.

>>49594345

>Implying she won't be bending over tables for more than just money

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what do you guys think of my map
trying out drawing on mountains instead of using stamps

>>49593470
Thrallherd powered headpat simulator.

So for the epilogue of my Rise of the Runelords campaign I'm making a Dread Lord, Dread Vampire (Nosfaratu variant), Nosfaratu-born Dhampir Cruoromancer with the Consuming Creature Template. He's assembled the Gluttonous Tome (abusing the fact that he's already undead, so it can't kill him and take him over) and taken over Xin-Gastash after tracking his ancestry there (and achieving full vamp status), and is basically planning to consume all worlds/planes, etc.

He's got a buttload of customized allies with him, but I was hoping for some inspiration/ideas as to what cool goodies I could give him from the Consuming Creature template. Thoughts?

>>49594689
Never mix business and pleasure anon. Even if you're a whore.

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>>49594689

what's the fun in being a chesty kitsune if you don't find occasions to let your silk kimono "accidentally" slip off of one shoulder as you bow courteously?

Hey fa/tg/uys,

I need a feat recommendation for a level 1 sorceror. I am human and took improved initiative already. And I could use some advice regarding a different 1st level spell to choose. No 3pp. This is my first time playing an arcane spellcaster.

Played my first session with him yesterday. Color-sprayed three enemies, and one party member. Dropped a bag of marbles on a guy (target) coming into the bar, tripping him. Got a guy (non-threatening) with a bear trap. Killed an enemy agent with the same bear trap. I plan to do more battlefield control, debuffing, buffing, and potentially taking out high-priority targets than blasting or anything like that.

I took the arcane bloodline, which will provide me with a few decent options for bonus feats (Combat Casting, Spell Focus, Iron Will, Still Spell), but I will get my first feat at 7th level, which is ages from now.

For feats, I took Improved Initiative--which I am happy with--and point blank shot for my rays/ranged touch attacks. I have acid splash, and I was hoping to hit better with that and do a little more damage, but I didn't use it at all in session. What would you recommend to replace Point Blank Shot?

For first level spells, I chose color spray as I have witness the glory and terror of the spell when my friends have used it. I also chose Protection from Evil/Good/Law/Chaos but I didn't use it at all, and I think that would be a better spell to get when I have more spells known. What would you recommend to temporarily replace Protection from C/L/G/E at first level?

>>49594276
Lolis are clearly girls, unless you're on some maniac shit.

The word you're looking for is trap.

>>49594869
>Protection from Evil/Good/Law/Chaos
There's no such spell. Protection from Evil, Protection from Good, etc. are all distinct spells.

>>49594940

I definitely am new to arcane spellcasters. I thought it you took one, you got them all, like energy resistance.

>>49594478

I got it! He will be a foreign dignitary under indefinite house arrest after his compatriots tried to smuggle out a box of silk worms, a crime punishable by death!

Forced to live on the alms of a kindly host in an exotic land, he will try to ally himself with whom he can to stay alive, ply his trade, and make it home exceptionally wealthy!

Craft (Clothes) seems to be a given, should I go for Jewelry and Gems too? What do you recommend for this grandmaster of his crafts?

>>49594974
They're just listed as one entry because the effects are the exact same, just the alignment is changed.

>>49594978
I'd suggest jewelry, as shinies are always a solid indicator of wealth, so people will very much want them. Artisan gets a kindasorta Fabricate, so you can make all of it pretty swiftly when you get a high enough level. How do you propose exp be given? Or are you just gonna chill at level 7? Either should be fine, really.

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>>49594978

I'd be happy to model your wares for you at all the social galas. Your crafts will be the talk of the town.

>>49594869
There are a lot of things arcane casters can do my dude; which of then do you want?

If you want to focus on a certain school (color spray will serve you well until level 6 and is Illusion, for instance), setting up for Spell Focus would be good. If not, you can take Additional Traits (Initiative Booster and either a Metamagic reducer, Second Chance, or something that makes Diplomacy a class skill), Nimble Moves/Combat Casting (to help you get spells off) or Toughness (because it's level 1 and fuck it, you're squishy)

I'd choose either Sleep or Silent Image to replace Protection from Alignment: leave that shit to divine casters.

>>49595024
>>49594978
Actually, yeah. Cloth and Jewelry for your diplomancer model, who then spreads word of your skilled work. Next thing you know, you're drowning in commissions. Hell, you might become the premiere fashion designer of the setting.

>>49595024
I know you're writing all this one handed, but post more fox tits.

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>>49595024
That is a super long fore-arm!

>>49595037

I want to be a tactician or strategist. I want to stack the odds in the favor of my party. I want to control the battlefield. I want the BBEG to be separate from his minions so that my party can either mop him up or the minions, so they don't have to deal with multiple threats.

This means anvil primary, arm secondary, and hammer tertiary.

When my friends have played arcane spellcasters, they have always been blasters. How would Silent Image be appropriately used?

>>49594978

Doesn't the Artisan get like, 8+Int skill points? You could easily have six Craft skills maxed out and still have points left over for the important ones.

Clothes, Jewelry, Gems, Metalcrafting, and two others sound good for being a master artisan.

>>49595119
>When my friends have played arcane spellcasters, they have always been blasters. How would Silent Image be appropriately used?

Effective use of illusions is all about creativity. For instance, once my party was assaulting a camp of ogres. I used ghost sound to make it seem like there was some sort of a monster in the forest, so several of them left to check it out, effectively allowing us to divide and conquer.

Remember that enemies don't automatically get to save against illusions: they either need some sort of proof that it's an illusion, or they need to interact with the illusion in some manner. This generally requires some sort of action.

>>49595182
>"They totes interacted with the illusion by seeing/hearing it!"

>>49595182
>or they need to interact with the illusion in some manner.
Ghost Sound allows a automatic save for just hearing it, it's in the spell description....

>>49595166

>Implying he should get craft (leather working) for "exotic" goods for more discreet clients.

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>>49595203
Ultimate Intrigue clarified that

>>49595166
they do, and if you go hooman, you get an additional, and background skills are in play, and you still have your FCB. They have disgusting potential for crafting. Make your Homunculus familiar the archetype that gives them Cooperative Crafting, and you're taking 10 for almost anything.

>>49595247
>Generally
Still vague enough, and in a different source book that you'll still have those dms and players challenge you on how it works.

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>>49595253
Looks like someone is going to be getting a PROMOTION!

>>49595119
The classic arcane caster, then. In that case, I'd think about taking a minor in summoning later on down the line (take Spell Focus Conjuration and Augment Summoning later), but start with Combat Casting/Nimble Moves. Take Craft Wondrous Item if your DM will let you ASAP: it is a lifesaver with downtime and your party will love you.

And how you use Silent Image, at its most basic, is this: make illusory cover. Put yourself in a box and deny LoS to enemies. Put mindless undead in a box and rob them of actions for a while. Make a bit of illusory shrubbery or a pit of blades or a giant, silent angel/demon to deter or deflect attackers. If you're fighting enemies who know a bit about spells but aren't casters themselves, fake a much higher level spell's look from afar (I enjoy using Black Tentacles for this).

Be mindful to discuss with your DM how they see illusions working, because a lot of their strength comes from player and DM imagination.

>>49595166
>>49595249

>Clockwork Engineering (Ex): (Prerequisite: artisan level 9, Craft (clockwork) 9 ranks.) You may use your Craft (clockwork) skill and artisan class feature to create clockwork constructs, such as clockwork golems, soldiers, spies, servants, leviathans, or goliaths. You do not need the Craft Construct feat. You may also perform repairs and basic modifications on your clockwork constructs.

Who needs combat ability when you can create a legion of gleaming brass soldiers to do it for you?

>>49595317
You're assuming you have the gold to do so

>>49595317
It'll take a while, but you could totally just make an army of clockwork soldiers. You'll eventually WANT to get Craft Construct, if you manage to get your constructs to bring you money, and if that can somehow earn you experience, you'll be able to make some powerful shit. Making this will also likely attract attention, so you might be made to create golems for the military.

>>49593687
>>49593743
Nope, it wasn't. Why would it be, it's a caster option.

Strange Aeons pdfs.
W H E N
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>>49595317

I thought I was making a clothier and master of *high fashion*, not a veritable Renaissance man in the same vein as Leonardo Da Vinci!

I'll have to acquaint myself with the Artisan class and work out the details tonight!

>>49595545
Never.
The guy who updated the The trove is kill.

>>49595618
Fucking normalfags.

>>49595545
The DSP kineticists pdf released today

when will we get that one

>>49594203
Play an Alchemist and take the Syringe Stirge discovery.

>>49595608
Nah, if you're an Artisan, you'll have many crafts. Just talk to your GM about the World Forger ability you can get at level 9. It doesn't have a listed enhancement pool cost, which is pretty clearly an error. It's still possibly multiple use "I make the item as a standard action," and for a mundane crafter, that is quite powerful when such things could end up taking months.

Anyone have the link to the pdf hoard? I don't have it bookmarked on my phone

So my 6th level party just had a run-in with a stone golem. We retreated (it's in a dungeon with an exit too small for it, so it won't go anywhere) to come up with a proper strategy to dispose of it.

But then I figured, why the hell should we destroy it if there's probably some way of taking control over it? Especially since it would contribute greatly to the security of a frontier city we're working for? How should we go about that?

Party configuration is 1 barbarian, 1 paladin, 1 ranger and one beguiler (class details for pf here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6bKY5cuGjh9VFA1OF8xVmtqWjA/edit ). We could probably get some rarer stuff or help from a dragon that is currently in control of the city (long story, can't safely polymorph out of a dragon form, needs the place to stay alive, is more or less friendly)

>>49595119
There's a 3rd party cavalier archetype called Inspiring commander that fits the bill. It also qualifies for the battle herald PrC without any janky multiclassing into bard. Combine that with the Dragon order, and you're Aid Another-ing seveal teammates each round for +10 bonuses, on top of barding inspiration and shared teamwork feats.

>>49595959

Couldn't he also craft some Tools of Amazing Manufacture and produce 2,000 gp worth of items per day? It's no World Shaper, but it's the next best thing.

Speaking of, does Minor Creation insinuate it's possible to produce an endless amount of raw building material, which can include gold or adamantine?

>>49596571

I don't know how golems work in pathfinder.

If they have a set of instructions in their head, like the jewish golems, then you could pin and remove the instructions, deactivating it. Then write something that you want it to do.

>>49596662
yeah, that's not applicable here at all.

>>49596662

>Write what you want it to do
>"Kill the Czar."

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Hey, what do you guys use for your character sheets? how about one you use if you're going to be taking multiple archetypes from the same class or multiclassing?
Just the basic one or?

>>49596653
The Tools of Amazing Manufacture are actually very helpful in this regard. You actually produce anything with a gp value of 2k or less in 1 hour. It can only do 2k of an item with value over 2k, and only once per day. The wording doesn't limit items of 2k value or less to once per day, so you can make 8, since each takes 1 hour. Minor Creation makes an object of nonliving plant material, so you can't make "a chunk of adamantine made of nonliving plant material." It also has a duration, so you can't endlessly produce infinite items of vegetation.

>>49595803
Someone post scans! QANON, you're friends with forrest, get a pdf and post it for us.

>>49596571
You actually can't simply take a golem. They only listen to their creator, unless their creator orders them to listen to somebody else. So, without getting their creator to come within 60 feet and give the order to obey your commands, you cannot take control of the golem.

>>49595803

Which one?

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>>49596793
I got this out of the book!

>>49596569
It's in the OP

>>49596907

NOT EVERY WOMAN IS A WAIFU DAMMIT.

>>49596934
No, but I know one person that thinks that of every drow!

>>49596795
even if the creator is long dead? the city has been abandoned for centuries and we're a part of the reclamation team

>>49596795
Are there no control rods?

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>>49596934
Everyone woman is someone's waifu, just as everyone man is some woman's husbando.

You just have to find the one waifu that truly loves you as her husbando

>>49596960
Even if the creator is dead. The golem will follow its last order.

>>49596969
There are no control rods, no. It just follows the orders of its creator.

Best way around this is talking with your GM. I had a GM who put in control rods as a way to "balance" a character that was able to craft golems. By the book, it ain't happening, but houserules are a thing.

>>49596969
There's some items that can take control over golems. And a golem could be given the order to obey anyone who has a specific object, but it's not a universal thing.

>>49596960
THen you'd better hope the golem takes you as to be part of the group it was (hopefully) ordered to obey. Or you're fucked and have to fight it.

>>49596571
Not at your level.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/control-construct

How do you build the scout from TF2?

>>49596879
Both of them.

>>49596934
We know there's uggos out there, but do we have to talk about the eyesores no one wants?

Let's stick to nubile dark-elf titties my good man

>>49596907
POST THE DAMN BOOK

CURSE YOU DROWANON

>>49596793
Does QANON even still come here? I haven't seen her post anything since the beginning of summer.

>>49597008
well taking it down actually shouldn't be very difficult, it feels like a waste though. Is there no way for it to confuse me with its creator? Illusions, disguise and things of the sort are my character's forte

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>>49597053

>>49597018
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/control-construct

there we go, so there is some way to do this. thanks for that, we'll figure it out from here.

I checked the pastebin links but seems the trove is dead, where to get the newest material?

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>>49597034
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/paizo---rogue-archetypes/scout

Or

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/stalker

Give him a blunt weapon, hand crossbow, and regular crossbow.

>>49597078
That's not content, anon. We knew Best Girl wrote it.

>>49597078
I thought Qanon named the Avant Guard

>>49597122
You may as well stat the rest of the mercs
>Pyro is probably a kineticist seeing how shitty and unloved he is.

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>>49597158
Oh, sorry! How's this?

>>49597167
QANON is Ceri's vigilante identity.

>>49597239
What archetypes does QANON have?

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>>49597194
I only played the original.

I looked on the wiki to make >>49597122.

>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Classes

>>49597244
>Pirate Princess
>Sylph Savior
>Pathfinder Channelguard
>Tentacle Tamer

>>49597244
Modified magical child into royal

>>49597244
I dunno about archetypes, but she definitely has Companion to the Lonely.

She's a very huggy person.

>>49594163
Does anyone have any advice for this thats actually related to pathfinder? 1pp only, all content.

>>49597302
That's a drood.

>>49594163
>>49597302
You can either be a Sorcerer with the Stormborn bloodline, or a Storm Druid, or any TN worshipper of Gozreh who takes that Storm Kindler PrC

>>49597320
Do druids without animal companions suffer in viability?

>>49597348
Listing all the options is not the same as advising towards any of them.

Rolled 6, 3 + 4 = 13 (2d10 + 4)

>>49597368
>Do druids without animal companions suffer in viability?
Sort of yes, sort of no. Domain druids get more spells per day, which technically speaking makes them the stronger choice. However, that only really matters at level 7+, at which point it's rare to run out of spell slots in the first place.

the animal companion, meanwhile, tapers off in effectiveness at around level 9 or 10, meaning it's the better choice for a low-level game, while having a domain is likely better for a long term game or one that starts off at higher levels.

>>49597401
What about an animal domain Druid?

>>49597216

Are there any big changes, at least?

Rolled 4, 8 + 4 = 16 (2d10 + 4)

>>49597422
If you're going to do that, then there's no point in picking domain over the animal companion.

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So what's everyone making for /pfg/'s official lewd Eastern themed fluffy tail game? Hurry up!
https://app.roll20.net/join/1698250/KPjOew

>>49597480
Extra spell slots though, plus spell list sniping with the Feather subdomain.

>>49597510
Nothing? Right now I am working on a Medic for my IRL Crimson Throne campaign.

>>49597422
I'm pretty sure that gives you the worst of both worlds.

>>49597401
Thank you. Our campaigns generally run from 1 to 8, so the advice was useful. Basically, Druid isn't the way to go. That basically leaves me with Cleric and Sorc.

>>49597510
Depends on a few things, but either a 30 str mercenary, a craftsman of some skill, an advisor to one of the fluffy tails, or a drifter.

The only one I've really fiddled with is the merc, since I enjoy building stupid combat monsters. Making craftsman is fairly straight-forward, advisors depend on the kingdom in which I decide to stay, and travelers are pretty freewheeling, so I'll make something more general than the rest.

>>49597550
What sort of medic are we talking about here

>>49597754
Medic DSP class, Sanguinist.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fkVJcjXIEZiZj_vpumo_8qy0TZfQl2hZ-tKV4rLnxLM/edit

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>>49597216
That's rude, anon! We should be sharing actual pages, like this one!

>>49597439
Gamblers got an actual power list, the avant guard got hit with some balance changes (buffs to the stand's attack rolls, tweaks to how Sculptor of the Soul works), one of the feats from Roil Dancer is in it, and there's a variant rule for normal kineticists.

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>>49597774
>pony hooves

>>49597825
PsyBomb designed the iconic. He's an alicorn, from Bloodforge.

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>>49597827
>alicorns are now literal pony-elves, more than before
Good fucking god, get your dick out of your pants, PsyBomb.

>>49597840
Uh, weren't they always? I thought they were literal unicorn/elf hybrids.

>>49597774
I don't know how to actually do that!

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Someone please explain the point of Eldrich archers focusing spellstrike to me.
For example, using Cone of cold.
Why the fuck would one not just cast cone of cold,
Does it not allow for a reflex save or...?
Like, you would get chain lightning at the level you unlock FS, so there's another example.
Someone said that counterstrike (what it replaces) is bad but counterstrike seems like a much more useful ability at that point.

I seriously don't get it.

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>>49597774
How's this?

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>>49597863
I cheated by having the layout file on hand. It's difficult to do it to a PDF.

>>49597883
Excellent.

>>49597883
>dark elf
does drowanon work for you?

>>49597923
No, but Drowanon loves me!

>>49597879
You could hit someone with your Cone of Cold without having to worry about the area of effect hitting people you don't want to hit.

>>49597926
lolth don't you have a race to be micromanaging?

>>49597931
I'm letting them take care of it, momentarily, with their womb wars! I've got more important things to be doing right now like posing as another god to secretly gather followers.

>>49597915
Let's play overwatch sometime!

> 20pt buy
> Want to play Magus
> Don't want to dump more than 1 stat
> Have to either suck it up and live with 12 CON or 16 DEX

>>49598028
What race, and what's your Int look like? If you dump Cha, you should be able to afford 17-18 or so Dex /and/ Int, and 14 Con, without much trouble.

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Need help with a lvl 3 Vigililante Avenger, no third party books. So far the party composition is Rogue, Barbarian, Summoner, Hunter and Cleric for an Urban campaign. Looking to help with martial damage with the Barbarian, since we have a shared backstory. Never made one before so I am eager to try it out.

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>>49598090
What kind of build do you want, senpai. "Looking to help with martial damage" is vague as fuck, and could mean literally anything. Did you want TWF? Two-handed? Unarmed+Dex+TWF? Are you a human? What stats?

>>49598090
>>49598120
Sorry I am human with stats rolls of 17,17.10,12,14,12. Two weapon fighting sounds fun, but although I saw the ability for Fist of the Avenger is a Unarmed build viable?

>>49598173
Unarmed builds are not very good. They lock you out of the bonuses gained from having magic weapons, and high AC and DR become big problems.

>>49598173
Did you apply your racial bonus to anything yet? The Unarmed Vigilante build is all about that static damage, but you're probably better off just doing the dex stuff with light weapons. Alternatively, you can use the shield bash talent to do sword and boarding without needing to meet the dex requirements.

>>49598242
No, those are just the raw stats. And Sword and Board sounds great.

>>49598173
>>49598230
Vigilante is one of the better unarmed classes. Plus, they can just use enchanted gauntlets.

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>The Artisan gets a free Item Creation feat at 2nd level
>mfw there aren't any Item Creation feats a level 2 Artisan can qualify for

>>49598359
Scribe Scroll

>>49598340
Well I will take any and all build advice, what is your reccomendation for feats and Talents?

>>49598403
Lethal Grace and Fist of the Avenger work out to be pretty dang alright for unarmed Vigilantes.

Plus you don't have to pay out the nose for a punchamulet, since you can just enchant your gauntlet.

>>49598085
Haven't decide on race yet. Probably Elf or Samsaran

>>49598431
What about feats?

>>49598085
>>49598459
right now I'm stuck at
8 15 14 16 10 10
before racial.

Wait... Piranha strike doesn't work with rapier without effortless lace???

My character died again /pfg/ now what do I play?

>>49598565
What is the party composition?

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>>49598565
What happened?

>>49598565
Another character?

>>49598565
What character archetype are you interested in?

>>49598582
Barbarian
Designated Healslut cleric
Paladin
Monk

>>49598489
It's not a light weapon, so no.

>>49598599
So basically you need a Wizard.

>>49598591
We were ambushed by a swarm of young dragons, the party barbarian, monk, and Paladin got caught on the other side of an avalanche. The cleric who doesn't get along with my kineticist said that she didn't have any reason to help me because she's only a memberof the party because she's in love with the barbarian. She retreated, I was in engagement with the three dragons, tried to escape and got killed by their AoO.

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I bet the Barbarian's gonna be real happy his waifu left a friend in the cold to die.

>>49598565
Skald

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>>49598655
The Barbarian's not going to know without metagaming.

>>49598599
Go Collegiate Initiate Arcanist and be the best Crowd Control caster possible

>>49598599
What's the level?

>>49598638
>kineticist

You deserve everything that happened to you.

I'm gonna be playing a gestalt campaign with custom races. I've settled on Barb(invulnerable rager)/Monk(martial artist) and I'm playing a race with 4 arms, and the GM has okayed using some monster feats.

I'm planning on going with a kinda cheesy Come and Get Me + Stun combo to prevent enemies from actually getting their free hit since my counterattack resolves first. Are there any feats that bolster that sort of build?

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>tfw the lewd Eastern fluffy tail GM fucking snubs you like an elitist hot shit

>>49598834

You've had like four days to write out a character concept bro, besides I doubt anyone who submits now will have a shot anyway, even if they post some good funky shit like the previous apps.

>>49598834

Nothing to feel bad about. People have been advertising it quite a bit for many threads now. And besides, /pfg/ being /pfg/, there's bound to be a similar game recruiting soon enough.

>>49598959
>there's bound to be a similar game recruiting soon enough.

Really? Because the last time /pfg/ recruited was about two or three months ago.

Since I'm new to this what's PP?

>>49599001
Since you gave so little info I'd have to guess powerpoints, effectively mana for psionic characters.

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>>49598852
>>49598959
I gave it my best shot and the DM told me my app was shit.

What do I have to do if I want to ERP some fluffy tail in Pathfinder in a weeb setting, huh?

>>49599001
"pp" (keep it undercase) stands for "party product"
1pp means "1st party product" which refers to anything produced by Paizo
3pp stands for "3rd party product", which refers to anything published by a third party groups for the Pathfinder rules system.

>>49599001
>>49599015
3PP My bad

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>>49599029
What are 2pp and 4pp?

>>49599025

Clearly, learn to make better applications.

>>49599029
So what would 2pp be?

>>49599039
Oh, yeah as >>49599029 said it's third party products. Products for Pathfinder not made by the parent company Paizo.

>>49599045
>>49599054
2pp = Us, the players. When we make and post homebrew, that's 2pp.

4pp = People who watch streams of players. They don't pay or publish.

>>49599054
I always thought of Wayfinder as 2pp. Generally, 2pp is something that'd be a company owned by the 1pp company but isn't that 1pp.

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>>49599050
Alright, what was wrong with any of our apps here?

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4034654/applications-slash-interest-checks-slash-questions

>>49599025
>I gave it my best shot and the DM told me my app was shit.

Who are you in the application thread? I could give you some advice if you want to know how to improve!

The biggest protip I can give you right now is shamelessly squirt out as much verbal diarrhea built around crafting a world as you can. Reach into that brain of yours and scoop out a country, describing every lump and wrinkle along the way. Explain how your character fits into that country, and why it's hot shit.

What does having climbing speed means? that I'm fucking spiderman? that I don't actually need hands to climb surfaces?

>>49599123
It means that you can climb without making climb checks. Why would it mean you don't need hands?

>>49599088

See >>49599098

Spyros and Ekko made the mistake of creating a character without creating the world, the DM is looking for content generation and they aren't providing that.

I'd still want Ekko's character in the world simply because the concept of "owning" a cute courtesan is right up my alley.

>>49599054
In dnd speak 2pp is generally something licensed by the parent company, but not produced by them. Like Paizo's dragon and dungeon magazines, the dragonlance book, or the kingdoms of kalamar book.

>>49599025
>What do I have to do if I want to ERP some fluffy tail in Pathfinder in a weeb setting, huh?
F-list. Like there's literally perpetual General over at /soc/ or /thrash/ for this kind of stuff.

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>>49599098
Not telling, but I'm one of the guys who got snubbed.

How come the walls of text guys get to be players? I thought it was quality > quantity, brevity is wit?

>>49599142
>Cheshire (male)
>not cute shota
>smoking
ewwww

>>49599142
>How come the walls of text guys get to be players? I thought it was quality > quantity, brevity is wit?

Because the walls of text are actually good, and as I said before the DM was looking for content generation as much as quality characters, and while Ekko and Spyros might have provided interesting characters they didn't provide anything in terms of content.

Which the DM directly addresses in his snub.

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>>49599025
>What do I have to do if I want to ERP some fluffy tail in Pathfinder in a weeb setting, huh?

Are you the titty Kitsune from earlier?

>>49594206
Oh neat this is the one I requested several months ago for my Iron Gods campaign. My players loved him!

>>49599162
It's okay, they're still cute!

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>>49599214
Did they get the reference?

>>49599142
>(male)
Look closer, you'll see a slight curvature of breasts near the bell, plus the way the flesh stretches from the chest near the edge of the underarm is another give away
That is a tomboy

>>49599162
>male
>tits

>>49599235

>Tomboy

Really? She just looks like a Cheshire Cat that's tired of dealing with some bullshit.

>>49599234
Yes. That's part of what made it so fun.

Okay so, I'm the shitter who didn't know what pp meant. I'm very new to d&d and pathfinder. I have a level 5 kensai magus tiefling, with the GM letting me reroll everything. Gotta keep prehensile tail, but that's it.

I wanna squeeze out as much damage/utility as possible. Cause our thief is the only one doing damage outside of me using shocking grasp, doing like 50 a round. while everyone is doing at most 20 a round.

Can anyone drop me a build/ give suggestions, much appreciated.

>>49599252
The short hair, posture, bearing, and the manner in which she is smoking place her as a tomboyish character.
On the Tomboy scale, I place her slightly above Bazette from Fate

>>49599142
>I thought it was quality > quantity, brevity is wit?

>He actually believed the anti-2hu style meme

2hu's descriptive writing is good, even if the dialogue is stiff.

>>49599067
Actually, when we make or post homebrew, we are the third party there was well.

>>49599083
The first party is the provider, like Paizo. The second party is the client (IE, us), and the third party is anyone uninvolved in the original transaction.

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>>49599184

No, that's me. I also got a 'no' for now, but I have elaborate backstory if that's what the Gm wants.

>>49599264
Intensified metamagic feat on the Shocking Hands, as well as making it a Spellstrike Spellcombat combo could help. Snowball is another good spell

Also, if the Rogue is outdamaging the party consistently, that means you have a problem with the party, since a Martial with a Greatsword or Lucerne with Power Attack should have a greater level of consistent damage, especially since you can't always get those Sneak Attack damage going.
He is a Rogue, right? You said "thief", but "thief" isn't a class, so I just would like you to confirm what his class is.

For your Prehensile Tail, I suggest getting a metamagic rod or a wand to hold in it. Your weapon of choice should be a Scimitar so you can use your arcane pool abilities to crit-fish.

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>>49599173
>the walls of text are actually good
Isn't the first one just wanking over Welsh sheep fuckers?

>>49599285
No, that's just 2hu's normal robotic talking style.

>>49599337
>>49599264
Oh, made a mistake. You said Kensai, right? Then you should probably go for an Urumi instead since you get the free prof.

>>49599338

That's what the DM wants, anon. He wants thick, ropey streams of text that give him everything he needs to know about the country, the people, and finally the character you're submitting.

>>49599361
>not keeping the scimitar for dex-to-damage

u wot m8

>>49599338
>>49599363
What makes Irish inspired countries better than Welsh ones?

>>49598816
>actually memeing on a character death

>>49599337
Yeah Rouge my b.

So I designed a dungeon for a guy GMing for my college's RPG club. I've never actually run Pathfinder before, though, so... would a single CR 3 enemy be a reasonable boss fight for 4 level 1 PCs? I think the party will consist of a goblin fighter, a dwarf fighter, an orc berserker, and a human wizard.

>>49599397
Pouring all your feats into Dex to damage is just a Magus Memebuild, you don't have any special synergy with Dex. Just put the equivalent points into Strength and you do it for free; you're effectively spending 2 feats just to gain some AC by trying to be a Dexter.

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>>49599329

Mind if I send you a PM so we can work out character backstories? My guy can't make your girl gorgeous and possibly translucent dresses if they're in separate kingdoms, after all!

>>49599435
So what is the rest of the of the party so far?

>>49599422
Anon is pretty clear both the gm and one of the players conspired to have him killed because he was useless.

As you play you realize some people have to die in order for them not to keep the whole party down.

>>49599441
Yes, that should be fine as a boss fight for 4 players. They should probably have like three CR 0.5 minions out front though just because action economy hurts bosses so badly and you want the fight to last more than a turn.

>>49599136
The power I get gives me my land speed (60ft) as climb speed and +8 to climb, and I can take 10 on every situation. And I don't know you, but climbing at 60ft using hands is pretty ridiculous looking

>>49599454
Kensai don't get armor. If he's staying Kensai, he might as well keep the memebuild since at best he'll have that one eastern armor anyway.

>>49599499
Well in that case you can just slither up the vertical surfaces on your stomach. That will look less ridiculous.

>>49599329
I think what the GM wants is for your character to match the scale of the other characters, come with a group of related NPCs, come with a large chunk of setting, and have a backstory that interests them. As soon as somebody set the precedent of royalty and worldbuilding, that was what everybody else had to do to measure up. If you want in, either build a kingdom, or latch onto one of the existing ones and add an organization of substantial size.

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>>49599540
>As soon as somebody set the precedent of royalty and worldbuilding

>mfw 2hu was the first poster

I like your gumption, but at the same time I hate it.

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>>49599459
Shouldn't our kingdom be English/French if we want an excuse for fabulous dresses?

>>49599561
How do you know it's 2hu?

>>49599485
If it matters, the enemy is a human knight with a greatsword and full plate armor, but with the stats of an Ettercap (minus the poison). I was originally going to have two spellcasting statues alongside him, maybe I'll go with that.

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>>49599562
>Shouldn't our kingdom be English/French if we want an excuse for fabulous dresses?

>Hot large-breasted French fox-girl

I never knew I needed this until now.

To defend putting them in an eastern kingdom, kimonos and the types of long dresses they had back then could be quite racy if she was shameless enough to wear them a certain way, which we know she is.

Throw on one of those dresses with the slits that go up the side and show off them shapely thighs.

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>>49599540

I'm waiting for him to respond - I am very willing to put in that effort, but only if I know he's still open to accepting me at all

>>49599459
Go for, I'm ekko in the thread

>>49599585
>How do you know it's 2hu?

I don't want to over-analyze it too much, but I'm good enough at picking up posting patterns to know it's her.

>>49599602
That is actually something that I was less fond of. The GM seemed to kind of say, "You're done, kiddo." But I suppose when you're going through applications, that's more common? I've never submitted for a game that required applications, so I'm out of my depth when gauging if that kind of reaction is normal. I'll try looking at your app to see if I can't help you get in.

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>>49599592
Be a reynard, hon hon hon!

So if I wanted to be a Channel Energy focused Human Cleric for an anti-undead campaign, what would be some decent options to go for that won't hamstring me in other areas? We're starting at level 4

I've already gone for the Sun and Glory domains to increase channel DC and ignore channel resistance, but I'm mainly having trouble with feat selection. I'll have Selective Channeling and Turn Undead, but would it be worth it to take Extra Channel or Improved Channel over Blazing Channel as the level 3 feat?

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>>49599602
So what's our plan to BTFO the Welsh sheepfuckers with cute foxes and great dresses?

Is Temporary Resurrection > Breath of Life the cheapest way to resurrect someone with no negative level?

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>>49599759

I'm actually in another game atm, but I'll happily continue this conversation with you when I'm done. I just want to make sure this GM has my complete attention.

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>>49599759

Step 1: Make the dresses
Step 2: Put on the dresses
Step 3: Show off the dresses
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit!

We're starting a level 7 campaign soon.

Planning to play..Inspired Blade Noble Fence Swashbuckler 1 / Cartomancer Witch 5 / Eldritch Knight 1

How the hell do I cramp all that class name down on my character sheet

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>>49599759
Kitsune in black dresses the best

>>49599767
Well you can't cast Breath of Life unless the target creature died within the last round, so no.

>>49599759
I bet he has a very nice feminine penis.

>>49599894

Those thighs are way too nice to be on a man.

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>>49599835
What kind of dresses, Anon?

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>>49599910

Whatever kind of dress you want, anon!

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>>49599836

Ins. blade fence swash1, cartowitch5, EK1

>>49599881
> The spell lasts for 24 hours, after which the target dies again.

Just cast Breath of Life right after 24 hour period pass?

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So, awakened animals are technically magical beasts, and Beast Shape 3 lets you shapeshift into a magical beast. Does that mean I could use beast shape 3 to turn into an awakened Leopard in order to retain my ability to speak?

>>49599894
Not the slight chest protuberance and how it presses against her dress. Add in the hips and butt, and that's clearly just a girl with an A-cup

Honestly, what is with anon and mistaking girls for dudes today?

>>49599944
Nice picture. Pretty much what I imagine him to be .

>>49599974
>Honestly, what is with anon and mistaking girls for dudes today?

People are desperate for surprise penises, apparently.

Which is an odd thing to hope for unless you're into that sort of thing.

>>49599974
I've seen those chest bumps on boys before too! That's definitely a feminine penis hiding under there!

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>>49599974
>>49599992
Are there any crossdressers in the lewd fluffy tail game?

>>49600037
Not with those THICC thighs

>>49599971

Pretty sure that's not RAI, but hey, your GM might go for it.

>>49600047
None that had that written in their character backstory, no.

>>49600047

None right off the bat, and the few that can be cross-dressers would be reverse traps, not traps.

>>49600037

Dude, when's the last time you've seen a man with thighs that nice?

>>49599759

What are those dresses called, anyway?

>>49600063
When's the last time I saw a man with fox ears and tail!

>>49600062
>>49600063
The dog prince is a crossdresser judging from pics.

Oni: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1935701
Foxgirl: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1814846
Dogboy: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1688373

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>>49600077
In a /pfg/ game!

>>49600105

That fox isn't even attractive, that fox is just plain cute.

I wanna scratch behind his ears!

>>49600105
Never, for both questions then!

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>>49600075
Cheongsam/qipao.

Wearing them with stilettos is mandatory!

Did you guys try >>>/lgbt/ and get thrown out for being too gay or something

>>49600167
Should we? Do they want to discuss pathfinder and kitsunes too?

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>>49600137

I'll have to remember that next time I ever get a chance to play someone from Tian Xia!

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>>49600184
Does Tian Xia import lots of high heels through Kalsgard to go with their cheongsams/qipaos?

>>49600178
They probably don't all want to talk about Pathfinder, but you don't either.

>>49600055
I'd imagine my GM would go for it. I'm asking due to playing a Lunar Oracle trying to figure out how to use the pseudo-wildshape, or if I should just ignore it. Knowing my GM, he'd probably just let me spend feats and revelations to improve it, on the basis of "well, you're the closest thing to a martial in the party anyway".

I'm also the person who asked about making an animal companion intelligent while keeping it as an animal companion.

>>49600216

Based Blackrabbitsoul.

>>49600221
That's fair. Pathfinder's pretty shit.

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>>49600216

>mfw envisioning an Ulfen woman in a qipao.

Anonplease.

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>>49596941
Wouldn't you?

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>>49600130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULBQ38Qlyvs

Would you really?

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>>49600287
Yes, even more so now!

>>49600254

There needs to be more motherly PCs with big boobs in this world.

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>>49600287
>>49600302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WAubuRa6nQ

Why not awooo instead?

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>>49600339
>Your kisses are my new favorite treasure
>If I ever bite you... it's out of love, okay?

>>49600352

And then you meet his daughter and she won't ever shut up about dad.

>>49600375
>And then you meet his daughter

And you can be his wife!

>>49600375
Like... she's just proud of him, right?

>>49600375
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>>49600395
How can his daughter be a full grown lady already?

>>49600413
Uh? They age?

>>49600413

She got thrown into a pocket dimension where time moves much faster than the Material.

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>no one in my group will be free on Halloween and by the time I could run a one-shot it'd be time for the Christmas special

>>49600435

What's wrong with a Christmas oneshot? You can stat up a dozen or so badass characters from various media, stick their names in a hat, have the players draw at random, and send them on an epic quest to save Christmas from an evil villain who looks and sounds exactly like Alan Rickman!

>>49600429
Sounds like it would fit with Pathfinder demiplane bullshit.

>>49600461
>>49600435
Or just get Krampus to kidnap some children. Are the PCs bad enough dudes to save them before they get their whippin'?

>>49600462

Accelerating your children's growth through planar bullshit has implications I don't even want to begin to fathom.

>>49600481
What if it happens at the daycare center?

>>49600499

You drop them off as cute little toddlers, and when you get back from work they're bright-eyed teenagers taught by Celestials.

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>>49600531
You ain't gettin' bright-eyed teenagers. You'll get mopey, hormonal jerks.

>>49600536
>PAGE
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Can you not contain your autism?

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>>49600603
Could be worse, could be vore.

>>49594073
Well, kitsune are basically my biggest weakness, so you've got my approval.

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>>49600884
Any kitsune?

>>49599540
2hufag and the blinkling sheepfucker are really bad at conveying information in their walls of text.

I know DMs are lazy shits (as I am one myself), but this is clearly mistaking quantity for quality. This general and system would be dead if people could tell the difference

>>49601539
Oh quit being a salty shite.