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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Friendly reminder to tell us what 3pp your game allows if you need character building help.

Trapfinding Edition. Are you using traps in your games? Is trapfinding really necessary?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/iYhDNSTq

Psionics Augmented: Psychic Warriors playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dX4UYdtwTQKhY71Q45IHLtcu193zq1ZO5jHQ5_PnTl8/edit

Bloodforge: Infusions playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvwMclLSw15slYI7D5xLdjMzr-Nau92hNha9Sx0LOk4/edit

Legendary Vigilantes playtest (ends next monday so check it out): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hrk1hl8uXVHazaiPOCvWsFUHX3PB6fQVd13tzguJTgE/edit

DSP's Forrest started a patreon for her own 3pp company: https://www.patreon.com/forrestfirestudios

Old thread: >>49574464
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There are more than 6 pages on /tg/ you pussy
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I almost couldn't find the general because there wasn't a weaboo monstrosity as OP image.
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>>49584032
Isn't that a good thing?
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>>49583988
Reposting:

Working on a character concept based on the idea of a "failed fake wizard".
Currently using this archetype, http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/archetypes/paizo---rogue-archetypes/counterfeit-mage
and planning to get a wand of fireball I cannot afford.
Needing:
-Ways to increase wealth (besides Rich Parents Traits)
- Wand related feats or such.
- Any way to make this character cuter.
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So here we go again.

I'm working on a 5-level PrC based off Souleater, tentatively called the Soulhunter. No familiar/summoning shenanigans and more open to noncasters.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dz82WWIiRiR-N1CU4rzJJEmfHQfcGAQw5MLESflO9bU/edit?usp=sharing

Anyone got any feedback or ideas?
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Since this is gonna be a new thread anyways, I'd like to ask for some advice on building a wizard, since I'm still not 100% on the best way to go about it.

Starting level is 9th, with one mythic tier (yeah, yeah, I know, archmage/wild arcana).
I do want to do some crafting things, and the 'every crafting feat' path ability is on the table, but I'm not sure what the best school choice is for that option. Is it universal? Enchantment? Abjuration?

I need more time in my day to read these things
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Anyway, I have about one or two traps in each leg of an adventure.

They may not be enough to kill the Warder that's tripping them, but it encourages good judgement and patience.

The Trap Finder trait makes it so no one needs to take levels in Rogue or Investigator, but it could be useful for a Vigilante (Slayer).

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/campaign-traits/mummy-s-mask/trap-finder
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>>49584077
Starting Gold is 6000 gp. Blowing away all the money is ok because its just for a One-Shot.
I just want to follow the path of explosions.
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>>49584056
Yes.
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>>49584077
Master Craftsman, Create Wands?
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>>49584129
>Benefit: Choose one Craft or Profession skill in which you possess at least 5 ranks. You receive a +2 bonus on your chosen Craft or Profession skill. Ranks in your chosen skill count as your caster level for the purposes of qualifying for the Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Craft Wondrous Item feats. You can create magic items using these feats, substituting your ranks in the chosen skill for your total caster level. You must use the chosen skill for the check to create the item. The DC to create the item still increases for any necessary spell requirements (see the magic item creation rules in Magic Items). You cannot use this feat to create any spell-trigger or spell-activation item.

Do you see wands in there?
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>>49584077
Wand related feats:

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/item-creation-feats/craft-wand-item-creation---final
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/false-casting
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/wand-dancer

Cuteness:

Legwear http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=legwear
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>>49584168

Sir, I believe you need to reevaluate what cuteness is.
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>>49584208
Definitely add rating:safe
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>>49583988
Alright, Gripplis guy from the last theead here. Just for fun, is there any way for me to soft vore people/creatures? The little frog niggas are only like 2 feet tall, so I imagine it would be tough.
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>>49584208
It makes more sense for a rogue or mage than anyone else.

>>>/e/1975794
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>>49584323
I'm fairly sure linking to smut posts on other boards is still against the rules.
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>>49584394
>still
afaik it never was, maybe except for brief nazimod rule when virtually everything was against the rules, but anyway, cross linking, even to explicit image should be kosher
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>>49584323
Is that suppose to be Leo from Fire Emblem?
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>>49584491
Hildegard Valentine from Shadow Hearts: From the New World.
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So, I'm planning out a sort of Civ-style campaign with the Ultimate Rulership splat and general campaign stuff.

Basically, the central PCs are demigods (Paragons) created to unify a few tribes under the banner of a god (or coalition of gods) to gain dominion over this newly created world.

I've decided that the initial spells available to both the Paragons and secondary PCs/NPCs of their civilization will be limited to what any caster Paragons bring with them into the world at creation. Arcane simply not having been researched, and Divine power being as young as the world.

I'm not quite sure how long I want spells to take to research though.

I was thinking 1 month/Spell Level, and probably 3-4 BP/month to finance the arcane research/strengthen the faith of the god to allow these spells.
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Alright, so can a combat butler / battle maid be done using 1pp?

Was thinking about using the character concept at the same time that I'd get the chance to try out aether kineticist, but figured I'd at least ask around if there are better ways to go about it with 1pp content.

I'm well aware of the 3pp classes, not to mention using PoW Extended for time-stop meido, but content restrictions.
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>>49584854

You're thinking of the Vigilante with Innocuous Servant.
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>>49584912
I'm not going for that, unfortunately.
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>>49584854
Rogue
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>>49584086

I like that it's more generic than the Souleater. Not specifically worshiping the Horsemen is good. Also like it being 5 levels instead of 10, and advancing normal class features. Eliminates my major complaints about Souleater.

Not sure this class does exactly what I'd want either. If I'm taking a class about stealing souls, I want to do it a lot. It's probably going to be the character's thing. As it is, this caps out at three gems per day. that's not much soul stealing. If you want to keep Soul Lock's immediately after combat role restricted to a few times per day, write up an occult ritual that harvests a soul from a captive or something, make them automatically learn it, and give them a casting bonus. Or some other such thing so they can steal souls more often.

Does soul locking via energy drain count against your normal uses?
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tell us about your campaign setting

>world
>theme
>factions of importance
>antagonist
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Is there anyway to buff Telekinesis's accuracy for full caster?
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So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?
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>>49584854
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/investigator/archetypes/paizo---investigator-archetypes/majordomo-investigator-archetype
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>>49585068

as always, I get to play my busty diplomancer
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>>49585068
Nope, family obligations. But at least I got something to brag about this time, so it shouldn't be all bore.
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>>49585068
I'm going to a PFS game with a Cleric.
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>>49585068

All my games were cancelled, I can't find any good ones recruiting on Roll20, and the only one available from /pfg/ is apparently 100% weeb.

I love you Fennec anon, but I'm in a pickle.
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>>49585083

>tfw no busty diplomancers in any of the games I've ever played
>tfw no busty characters in general
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>>49585039
Colonial fantasy. 1500's level technology or so. Party is leading a colonial company.

-Heavy focus on planar interactions. There are points where planar travel is easy enough that you can just walk through, but you don't always know where you go. You know you're going to a earth plane, you don't know which. These are dangerous and valuable resources that justify adventurers as a profession.

-Lots of colonialism. Old world is crashing into new, some are resisting, some aren't. Some extraplanar colonization. New World is a mixture of Asia and Americas. Old world has republic/monarchy conflicts and reformation type things going on. Main powers are Poland-Lithuania as a colonial power with a thing for alchemy, fractured HRE, Franco-Spanishland that uses colonies to get rid of dissidents, and Welsh archipelago in a planar convergence point that sometimes spawns islands, and a sort of Greek merchant republic.

-Everyone reincarnates, religious focuses on how you break that cycle. Alternate between mortal and outsider lives. Mortals strengthen their souls (justifies levels, kind of and stat disparities) faster, but outsiders live until killed. Aztec samurailand says you can prevent it if you're strong but you weaken over time, others call for divine intercession and so on. Or maybe just sell your soul to be sure you reincarnate somewhere good.
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>>49585118
Why not start your own campaign anon?
Then you can weed out the weebs.
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>>49585039

It's World War 1 meets the 30 Years War meets French Revolution with a liberal sprinkling of Space Elves and Mass Migrations.

You've got giants who invented, perfected and mass-produced the rifle working with flame-wielding Frenchmen duking it out with industrialized Elves and dragons with pickelhaube.
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>>49585232
>Why not start your own campaign anon?

Give me a good virtual currency offer and confirmation of the NAP and I might think about it, Anarcho-Capitalist Ball.
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So I got a 3.5 question
I'm starting at third level and I was told this group is more of a social/RP party, but they still need more damage, what would be a good class to either start with or to work towards?
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>>49585118

>the only one available from /pfg/ is apparently 100% weeb

Sounds like an open invitation to roll up a character who's 110% weeb and give absolutely no fucks whatsoever, anon.
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>>49585325

You laugh, but that system is way better than the current communist-ration-lines for games.
ONLY 1 GAME PER PERSON ELSE ITS HOARDING YOU CAPITALIST PIG
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>>49585345

But... Anon... I'm not a weeb, I've never been a weeb, the weebiest thing I've ever splurged on was One Punch Man. I wouldn't know where to start if it came up and fondled my crotch.
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>>49585383
Watch Record of Lodoss War: Its literally a retelling of a D&D campaign the writer ran up for his friends.

>Your setting would never become a world-renown franchise.
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Do sleeves of many garments work on command? Or constantly at will?

Also are there any items like it, that actually physically change the equipment?
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>It's a "the campaign has awesome lore and premise but the DM's demanding 20 PB, Core-only" episode.
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>>49585516
There's an intelligent item ability that lets you summon it onto your body as a free action.
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>>49585482
That normalfag anime would never even begin to make playing a game with the weeb cancer in this thread tolerable.
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>>49585530
Could be worse, it could be rolled stats
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>>49585532
Oh man, intelligent armor you say?

IT'S JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES!
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>>49585546
Then lets step up the game with introduction to Lolis & Austrian Economics 101.
There is been a disaster and half the crops were lost? Gee , time to motherfucking raise this food prices to the roof!
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>>49585068
Not sure what's happening. Either I continue running my party of bumblefucks through Russia, or I get to do session two of Princes of the Apocalypse with my changeling GOOlock. Or we continue to do prep for Strange Aeons...like last week.
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>Open /pfg/
>See this >>49585647
>Close /pfg/
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>>49584975
It does count against uses yes. I mostly added that free-action usage to make it a little easier to nab souls midcombat if you finish someone off with it.

I would make it have a higher cap, but something I'm concerned about is the potential value you'd get out of soul-locking pretty much everything you come across, particularly if you're a crafter.

But then again, a Basic soul is only worth 100 gold, and there isn't any actual hard ruling on what differentiates a basic soul from a notable soul or a big'n'fancy soul.

Maybe I'll raise the cap and actually write something out to clarify what gives what type of soul.

Thanks for the input!
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So, if I wanted to run a module- Not a full adventure path, but maybe a lengthy module, which would I go with? I'm currently leaning to Tears of Bitter Manor, but I'm somewhat uncertain as to whether I should start with that.
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>>49585068
New campaign starts on Sunday, going to be doing Gestalt WotR without Mythic. Should be interesting.
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Is tier 3 class still fun and viable after level 10? Should I stick to tier 1 and tier 2 if my campaign is going to reach level 10+?
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>>49585812
Depends on the party composition.
In any case tier 3 tops at 16 so you will probably be fine until then.
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>>49584854
I'm playing a Teisatsu Vigilante that I play up as the maid to another player character's rich asshole knight. It's worked great so far.
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>>49585812
play whatever you want man, nobody's going to judge you.except all of us
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Oh joy, we're fighting a graveknight and a witchfire.

My character took a crit that did 60 damage and instantly KO'd at -1 hp.
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>>49585812
Tier 3 classes are great the whole way, they only "fail" if there's T1/2 classes in the party, as by 15th/16th those literally end the concept of adventuring as a thing outright.

Though the T3s have gotten incredibly capable at it, it doesn't matter anymore. The wizard just goes
>okay, two days from now the king will die and a messenger will run in here in a panic, because sometime tomorrow night the prince was disappeared by a local cult. I teleport-lock his room to prevent that, put some invisible guards outside his room to make doubly sure, and cure the king's heart disease.
>But... we don't know that was going to happen yet
>Yes I do, I know the whole damn upcoming week. And with the remaining 3/4 of my spells for TODAY....
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What are some good trap ideas for a Not!Tibetan Temple style dungeon? Do I use more ice and cold traps, or play off the chanting Monk thing and add sound traps? The principle enemy in the dungeon is already using heavy WW2-level ordnance as homemade traps, but the locals also had to have trapped their treasures before vanishing.
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>>49586023
Sonic traps that have a chance to inflict temporary deafness are always good fun right before you ambush the party.
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>>49586019
Damn, I am going to save this post. It explains so clearly the truth about why Diviner's are tier 1 without throwing numbers or statistics around (which other players or gms might not understand)
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>>49585890
>Teisatsu Vigilante
I originally misread that as Tiramisu Vigilante which left a funny mental image.
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>>49586023
I remember one trap we had in an abandoned icy temple involved some sort of frozen wax that was placed on the ceilings next to the smoke holes. As the place started heating up from the heat of us making camp for the night, it started dripping down until part way through the night the jars of oil that were held up by the wax finally fell and caught most of the party on fire.
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>>49586004
Speaking of graveknight...
My party beat one a few session ago. Apparantly, our GM didn't read the part about Graveknight rejunevate back from armor... Our party Fighter decided to wear that Fullplate+3...

Should I message my GM about it, or should I pretend not to know about graveknight..?
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>>49586396
Do it. Make things fun.
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>>49586252
Wait until we get the Dungeon Meshi rules converted to Pathfinder.

A Vigilante (Stalker) has Craft, Heal, and Profession as class skills.

He can add inspiration to the checks to make food.
He can take Advanced Study (Elemental Flux maneuvers) to chill or cook the target.
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>>49586239
Just doin my job
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>>49586019
>>49585886
>>49585971
Thanks. I want to play Psychic Detective Investigator. Not sure how that will go at higher level though.
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Hey there, /pfg/

Can I get some more input and criticisms for my homebrew class, the Empyrius? I'd gladly appreciate it.

Its an offense/support class based loosely on the Tactician and the Vitalist with a flavor of warlock.

His main draw is his ability to deal damage , debuff and deliver support buffs all in one turn.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xQMlB45-UFEWCB2ffqoBUMhR-t4afSXLk29fgTJNVyw/edit
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>>49586595

Siphon Action sounds pretty crazy. You're not just breaking the action economy, you're actively robbing it.
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/r/ing from a past op image of a lunar oracle under a red moon doing something with if i remember correctly a adventure path specific item called a "blood shard" or "blood stone" one of those. it was a really cool picture and i meant to download it but never did.
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>>49586652
Not that bad. Still requires a saving throw.
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>>49584077
Go

>Tiefling Unchained Rogue (Eldritch Raider/Counterfeit Mage/Sanctified Rogue) with Soulseer/Pass for Human with Adopted (Genie-kin) for Minor Wishcraft

Tiefling
>Pass for Human (count as human)
>Soulseer (at-will Deathwatch)

Consider these traits:
>Pragmatic Activator (Int for UMD instead of Cha)
>Minor Wishcraft (spend a use of an SLA to replicate ANY 0-level spell)
You access Minor Wishcraft via Adopted (Geniekin - ie. Ifrit/Undine/Oread/Sylph)

Take Racial Heritage (Gillmen)

Unchained Rogue (Eldritch Raider/Counterfeit Mage/Sanctified Rogue)

>Lose:
Trapfinding
Trapsense
Rogue Talent (2nd, 4th)
Uncanny Dodge
Improved Uncanny Dodge
>Change
Skill points = 6 + Int mod
Disguise, Perform and Sleight of Hand class skills = Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (History) and Spellcraft class skills
>Gain
+1 Fort, Will
1/2 level to UMD for Scrolls and Wands, Disable Device/Perception vs. Magic Traps
Signature wand (ability to draw it as a free action, use without UMD bypassing all requirements, can change it 1/day)
Detect Magic at will with a caster level equal to Rogue level
Augury 1/day with a caster level equal to Rogue level
Access to two new Rogue talents: Minor Eldritch Magic (2nd Level Sorc/Wiz spell 2/day) and Major Eldritch Magic (3rd Level Sorc/Wiz spell 2/day).

Wands go up to 4th level. So we can grab a Wand of Monstrous Physique II to net Mimicry so that the Rogue is now proficient in all Weapons, Armor and Shields as well as using any spell trigger or spell completion item as if the spell were on its spell list.

For Unchained Rogue, Minor Magic and Major Magic changed to get at-will or scaling number of uses. Toss in Bookish Rogue and a spellbook and you can alter your spell list as you go. And maybe a Familiar to really cement it.

Alternatively, Unchained Rogue (Eldritch Scoundrel) with Forgotten Trick if you just wanna half ass it and be a 6th level caster.
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>>49586652
Hmm, looking at it. Yes, you're right, I might have to rebalance this power somehow.
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Reposting from last thread since it didn't get answered:

Wondering if any DSP dev is around to answer this:
Is it intentional the max maneuver level known of a 6/9 archetype is limited on the table by their class level rather than by their initiator level in the class?

Like, say you're level 8 in a different class, and you dip into an initiator.
You choose warlord, you enter Warlord 1 at initiator level 5, you can immediately get some 3rd level maneuvers.
If you choose something like Rubato instead, your Rubato initiator level would also be 5, but because
>The maximum level of maneuvers gained through rubato levels is limited by those listed in that table as well
You can still only pick up level 1 stuff, and not even level 2 stuff like a normal level 5 Rubato.

This leads to two things:
-Taking Practiced Initiator for a 6/9 has a lot less impact: for a full initiator it still increased the max maneuver level you knew when you dipped out of it for 4 levels, but for a 6/9 you're always bound by the table according to your class level
-Even weirder, if you enter straight from a level 5 half initiator into an initiator PrC, and take that all the way up to level 15 where you're getting your 8th level maneuvers, the moment you enter back into your main class at level 16 suddenly the max maneuver level you can learn/trade for naturally is capped at 2 again, because you're just level 6 in the original class.
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>>49584077
On money:

Pick up some combination of these traits:
>Rich Parents = starting gp becomes 900gp
>Destined for Greatness = start with a kit worth up to 300 gp that automatically replenishes for free everytime you enter a town of 2000 people or more
>Merchant Family = treat town gp limit as 20% larger and sell items for 10% more
>On the Payroll = add additional 150 gp to starting gp
>Ustalavic Noble = add additional 100 to starting gp and +1 to Diplomacy/Knowledge (Nobility)
>Calculated Bribe = 1/day spend level x 10 gp to reroll diplomacy check, and begin with noble's outfit worth 100 gp

Pick up some combination of these feats:
>Noble Scion (Cheliax - Jeggare) = nets additional 200 gp at level 1, and additional 10,000 gp at level 10
>Noble Scion (Cheliax - Henderthane) = spend 10% less when buying weapons
>Master of Ledger = invest 100 gp per market, every month coin flip to gain 25% profit
>Black Marketeer = gain resource pool for illicit goods that functions like Profits of Kalistrade (check with GM to see if he will let it scale like Profits does though)
>Profits of Kalistrade = gain resource pool that scales

Take this investigator talent:
>Rogue Talent (Black Market Connections) = treat towns as a size category bigger (or diplomacy roll for 2 sizes) for items to sell/buy and can sell stolen goods
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>>49586755
>>49586826
This looks pretty good. Thanks.
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>>49585971

>Nobody's going to judge you
>Posts a thief with large boobs
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>>49586595
That's a cute kitsune.
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All right, Ladies, I've got 2300GP to burn. What should I get in the next major town I enter?

Idc if it doesn't fit my build or whatever, I just want my group to go ".....why?"
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>>49587044
What level are you?
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>>49584113
Necklace of Fireballs

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/m-p/necklace-of-fireballs
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>>49587044
ioun stones with continual flame cast on them
or like, a lot of pigs
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>>49587044
230 lbs of chocolate

www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/goods-and-services/ue-more-gear-4#table-foods-spices
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>>49587044
2,000 grey ioun stones hovering around your head. Become the swarm.
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>>49586935

I take it you prefer thieves with small boobs?
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>>49587101
You joke, but an Aegis/Psion would turn those 2,000 Ioun Stones into flying laser shooting funnels.
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>party goes to investigate recent going-ons in a land formerly owned my PC's childhood friend, another party member
>Get into fight with the undead forms of a nice, happy couple our characters knew
>tree with various recently-made bodies that were mutilated and disfigured hanging from it, mocking the party
>the grave where my character had buried his love before the start of the campaign was disturbed, the body gone

How has everyone's latest sessions gone? Me and my party's got a band of skeletons charging at us out of a walled village.
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>>49587119

Large, heaving breasts don't seem like they'd be compatible with nimble acrobatics, or at least make it a touch more difficult than the margin of error an expert thief demands.
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>>49587151
>He doesn't know about matrix boobs
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>mfw the DM is trying to pair my character up with the asshole thief that's been making his life a living hell for the past five sessions

Do people think this is cute? Make a character that's a big ole thorn in your side, and then think you'll find it endearing when they try to kiss and make up at a meeting in the marketplace?
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>>49587246
Some people like it.
Though the line between 'lovable asshole' and 'plain old asshole' is pretty thin and the thief might have fallen on the wrong side of it while trying for the former.
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>>49587054
DM is a cuck, so 400xp from lvl 5
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>>49587291

THAT's something I wish more people understood-the distinction between "endearing" and "they will never find your goddamn body" levels of annoyance.
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>>49587303
How the hell do you have 2300 gold to spare at level 4? There are too many key items you need to get to waste money on massive quantities of trade goods
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>>49587082
Oooh! I would, but my light load is 32 lbs and I prefer to stay schwifty
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>>49586797
Each individual class other than PRC's (I'll explain in a moment) has its own access and initiator level.

SO. If you're level 8 in a class and dip into an initiator, you are yes warlord 1 with initiator level 5, and can access level 3 maneuvers for warlord. However, your known/readied/stances are 6/4/1, so you get one stance, and a level 3 maneuver needs at least one pre-existing maneuver.

BUT: instead of taking all level 1s, you can take level 1/2/3, hell you can even skip straight to level 2s and not touch level 1s (chances are your stance is a 1 or a 3).

Practiced Initiator (the trait) would instead give you access to level 4 maneuvers (1+4+2) which is plenty of fucking impact. As long as there's at least 3-4 levels of not-initiator taken, practiced initiator will always be a boon.

If you picked Rubato, you'd have less access, due to being on the Partial-Initiator table (the archetype table) instead of the regular growth.

EACH individual class has its limits though. If you were, say, Rubato 10 Warlord 10, each gains its known and readied maneuvers separately.
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>>49587328
What sorts of magic items do you have already?
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>>49587044
A Heavy wagon with all the ammenities the party needs
>A small alchemy kit in the corner
>A table for scribing scrolls
>A smith and anvil for crafting
>A tiny oven for cooking
>Hammocks tied to the roof for sleeping on
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>>49587291
>>49587312

The thing that made her go from "lovable asshole" to "plain old asshole" was three sessions ago, when she framed my character for the murder of a wealthy and influential (albeit corrupt) government official.

And by framed, I mean *I was in the goddamn room with the fresh corpse when the guards came in.*

She even stabbed me with a STR-draining poison before she finessed her way out of the room. You know how much I hate poisons?
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Alright, which one of you chucklefucks signed up with the catgirl?

https://app.roll20.net/join/1698250/KPjOew
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/pfg/, what are the first three schools I should take as an Occultist? I'm intending to replace the rogue as the skillmonkey/trap handler. Right now I'm thinking Transmutation (combat), Abjuration (combat and dispelling), and Necromancy (summoned minions have a lot of utility, particularly the familiars). Divination is on the list, of course, but in all the games I've played it hasn't come up until level 10+, if it ever became relevant at all.
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>>49587391

WHY THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER, THE CAMPAIGN'S GOT SHOTA DOG-BOYS AND KITSUNE PRINCESSES AND A MONGOLIAN CATGIRL IS THE THING GETTING YOUR PANTIES IN A TWIST?
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>>49587391
Did you seriously post the invite link??
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>>49587246
Then they wonder why you just stabbed the bitch while she was in your arms.

Like you were some kind of monster or something.

The hostile finally did something stupid and stopped dodging.
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>>49587379
Anon, thats how a rogue tells you she likes you.
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>>49587331
Yes.
I get that.

My question isn't about how multiclassing works for a warlord, or with the half initiator levels in general:
It's the fact that it doesn't work at all for a half initiator.

Say you're (Class 4/Rubato 1) with Practiced Initiator (Rubato).
When you enter Rubato at level 5, your rubato initiator level will be 5.

But because your Rubato /class level/ is 1, and the text says that you're limited by your /class level/ as it says on the table, the maximum maneuver level you can learn is /one/, even at initiator level 5.
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>>49587379
Yeah, "she got the mark before you" can make for a cute rivalry that builds into something nicer, but that, that right there is a "there is no room under the heavens for both of us to continue existing" bloodfeud right there.
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>>49587379

Okay, definitely crossed the line. Throwing you under the bus is plenty bad, but actively crippling you so as to ensure the bus' success? That's an entirely new level of not okay.
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>>49587326
Uhm, we kinda ruined a bandit groups mining project and took all their spoils.
Then we found a hydra, killed it, and took its hoard.
Also, bruh, I just wanna have fun :3

>>49587336
I have a Beneficial Bandolier and an Endless Bandolier c:
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>>49587417
Was it you, Anon?
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>>49587459

No, no it was not.
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>>49587437
>>49587441

What if he got back at the thief by stealing literally all her clothes and items and leaving her at a new crime scene?

If she manages to work her way out of that and meet him again, then they're on even ground and can talk.
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>>49587452
If you're really determined to get something useless, you could get yourself a +1 weapon that you aren't proficient with.
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>>49587379

Anon, this just means you need to stab her right back!
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>>49587417

>Mongolian catgirl

Do elaborate.
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>>49587474
But that's no fun...

That aside, I already have a Mwk Bastard sword + Mwk Buckler, so I already have that covered
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>>49587482
Enjoy.

http://pastebin.com/cn19waqC

Which one would you waifu?
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>>49587432
>>49587437
>>49587441

My character wasn't actually there to kill the government official, he was there trying to convince him to change his money-grubbing ways and donate to the local orphanage once in a while.

My character's a Paladin, you see, and he only managed to get out of that sticky situation with liberal applications of Lay on Hands and an official notice from Da Church that my sanctioned-ass couldn't possibly have murdered that man without losing a connection to the divine, which I was very clearly still capable of doing.

I've got the sneaking suspicion the DM wants to hook my guy up with this woman because of the whole "bad girl turning good" arc that might come from it.

Fuck that, if she wants a piece of my beautifully sculpted ass she's gotta change her stabby-stabby ways by following my example.
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>>49587523
>Which one would you waifu?

>Nyantaka Khan
>Katagiri
>Wan Wan

Oh golly miss Molly these people are precious.

Mongolian cat-girl, no contest. Nekomimi in riding leathers a cute!
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>>49587548

She attempted to cripple and frame a fucking paladin?

Fuck that noise. Find a tree and some rope.
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>>49587470
... She set him up to be executed for someone else's crimes.

"oh but he took her clothes" MAKES NONE OF THIS EQUAL. Especially when she'd just be able to go "I was a victim too see?"


Look at this female mage. She knows what must be done.
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>>49587572

How much damage does a dagger do? I bet she knew the cut wouldn't kill him.
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>>49587587
It.
was.
poisoned.

And she could've crit.
MOST characters can't metagame this way until they're at least mid levelled.
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>>49587587

No, but hitting him with strength-draining poison right before the guards burst in and jumped to conclusions is far more damaging than any PF dagger wound.
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>>49587470
no seriously. I don't know what the fuck your GM was smoking if he wanted her to become some kind of romantic interest.

she's gone too far. WAY too far. this is one of those Joker level "I bombed these innocents out of love for you batman" things. It doesn't get laughed off, and it cannot be forgiven.
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>>49587599

Poisoned with Strength-drain, something that would be annoying to a Paladin but easily non-fatal given their access to Divine Grace and stellar Fortitude saves.

The guy's got Lay on Hands, he's got enough HP to tank a crit even if it came to that.
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has anyone used DHB's unchained fighter? I want to but want to know how it has worked for others. How does it play? What tier is it? Is it even good? Pls help
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>>49587635
This.
That stab is rogue equivalent to a boy pulling a girls hair.
Gee paladin anon you are so dense.
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>>49587572
>>49587587
>>49587628

For what it's worth, my character *was* trying to beat the crap out of her when he found out what happened, the knife came out in the struggle and she jammed it in to make her escape, and we later learned the official was turning a blind eye to some less than savory brothels ran in the poorer quarter of town, where she supposedly grew up.

Wait a second, why am I trying to defend her or the DM? The girl knifed me dammit.
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>>49587566
>riding leathers
>shit tier padded armor
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>>49587689

Riding leathers are sexy.
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>>49587635
People survive far worse, and also die from far less, all the time.

Much as we joke that 2d8+12 damage is nonlethal against someone with 28HP, fact is, what actually happened, in-game and in-character, was a lethal attack with a deadly weapon coated in muscle-destroying poison.

You could make that argument at high levels, if they'd fought each-other often. At that point it's more like two martial arts masters who know that skull-crushing hit that would splatter a normal man will barely daze this particular guy.

But at low levels or against a target you don't know the combat capabilities in and out of, that is not at all what the intent was, or if it was, it was unacceptably recklessly applied.
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>>49584168
>>49584077
>>49584129
He's starting at level 4. He can't take craft wand even if he's a Wizard.
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Can I use Blood Money > Fabricate to create Downtime building? A caster tower is 4,750gp, so that would cost me only 10 STR damage.
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>>49583988
>Trapfinding Edition. Are you using traps in your games? Is trapfinding really necessary?
There are never traps in my games because I always forget. I mean there should be, but I don't fucking know where. I don't send my players into tombs often enough I guess.
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>>49587417
Wasn't the dog a princess?
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>>49587777

I honestly have never found traps to be interesting encounters unless they are more than your typical tripwire/deadfall/dart thrower thing. For a trap to be interesting, it would have to be something like

>the entire stairway collapses
>the corridor goes on forever in a loop, the PCs have stumbled into some kind of mind trap and left their bodies behind
>All the doors reverse themselves, slamming shut and opening to instantly change the entire dungeon layout
>a monster makes a poor but disturbing attempt to entice the players forward by dancing a bloated corpse on wires in front of them like a sick, twisted marionette
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>>49585118
I literally said I would GM anything /pfg/ gave me. And then all the people who said they wanted a Deus Vult Crusades game chickened out, while the weebs at least posted interest checks.

Soo, I really have no sympathy for you, /pfg/ non-weeb gamers.
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>>49587882

>The trap was wasting a session exploring a tomb with absolutely no wealth in it
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>>49586797
There was a mistake made that left out a note in the book. Maximum maneuver level is based on initiator levels, as listed in PoW 1, even if the exact progression is different.
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>>49587911

link to this weebarific game?
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>>49587941
Thank you!
That's exactly the answer I hoped for and it's good to have an official-ish clarification.
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>>49587947
SYMMETRICAL DOCKING!
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>>49587947
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1698250/slash-pfg-slash-impromptu-all-the-things
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>>49585530
>TFW this has been every fantasy game I've ever been in
>TFW this is over multiple DMs, settings, and campaigns.
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>>49587882
>>49587912
Just make sure to never use broken traps. Traps that have grown so old that they rusted or broke and will never move. I once had some of those as just curious set pieces in a dungeon, it took fucking forever for them to get past them. Like more time than actual working traps by a factor of 10.
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How can I make a sentient artifact ring interesting? I feel like the Ring of Power "it instills evil thoughts into you" is cliche.
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>>49585530
20 pb is fine. It's better than 4d6b3, which is STILL the most common thing you'll see in an IRL game.
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>>49585647
>get to send retard heros to die for me
Picked the fuck up.
does either half somewhat quell the ever present hunger for loot on the tabletop?
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>>49587996

> This finger is boring, can I try the pinkie? I'll resize this time, I promise!
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>>49587947
https://app.roll20.net/join/1698250/KPjOew

Character Apps: http://pastebin.com/cn19waqC
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>>49587996

It gives you X-Ray vision, but always in the periphery you see an ugly naked gypsy man.

If you try to focus on his penis he will violently kill you.
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What suggestions would you guys make for doing max damage for a Dex-based non-Fighter (in other words no Weapon Specialization) character?

Obviously Slashing Grace, but wondering of there's other similar stuff I'm missing.
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>>49585068
I am excited but wary, for my Sunday game, as usual. Really hope we don't have another no-show from another player. I'm pumped as fuck for finishing the arc, because i want all that delicious downtime goddamnit! All those magic items and construct modifications aren't going to make themselves!

Other games have been going pretty good, though the dice absolutely fucking hate my guts in one. Likely the dice are mocking my decision to have my character and his animal companion both have names that meant "lucky".
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>>49587996
Why does it even need to be a ring? Sentient Rings are super dull unless you're doing Ring of Power cliches with them.
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>>49588030
>>49587977

I just realized this campaign needs more boobs.

Like, the catgirl is slender, the shota is a boy (male), the Oni is flat and the Kitsune is flatter!

Where are the tits! Where are the hunks!
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>>49588036
Sorry, meant to say with daggers or at least a one-handed light weapon, like a kukri.
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>>49588036
You could just be an Unchained Rogue. No extraneous feats required, nor bad limitations like Slashing/Fencing Grace's. Among 1pp feats I think most prefer Dervish Dance for its ability to work alongside Magus casting. There is also Deadly Agility if 3pp is allowed.

Also it's fucked up that you mention Weapon Specialization as if anyone ever born would recommend it even in a Dex-based Fighter build.
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>>49588030

what day of the week is this game going to be?
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>>49588069
I was going to make a Bunnyfolk gambler NPC with them, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.
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>>49585763
>non-Mythic WotR
Are you the GM or a player? That sounds like a slaughterhouse waiting to happen.
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>>49588103
It's going to be one on ones with occasionally 2-3 characters meeting up at a time. So, times are flexible.
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Quick question, that dog shota race and non furry kitsune race can't be found in the pdfrs, right?
Not even sure what their names are
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>>49586733
can anyone help me out with this please
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>>49588069
Where does it say the dog is a shota?
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>>49588135
Bloodforge has the blinklings.
Bloodforge Infusion has the Yokai and Zenko Kitsunes.

So, check that pastebin on the OP of every /pfg/ for details.
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>>49588120

Will things get lewd?
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>>49588120

that's some dedication if the GM is running it multiple nights per week like like that. I might pitch something for it.
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>>49588044
Because a sentient codpiece would just get removed after each battle.
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>>49588159
I said I'd GM whatever my players wanted. So if my submissions were Slaanesh, Nurgle, and Isha having a threesome, I would have GM'd Slaanesh, Nurgle, and Isha having a threesome.

So, if during your 1v1s you want to lewd, or if the person you're currently crossing paths with does, that's fine with me.
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>>49588160
I volunteer for crazy things like this when I go "Hmm... All my RL friends are in other countries atm and I only work 30 hours a week."
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>>49588073
Oh I forgot, there are also two new things that I know of that specifically boost your attack damage if you are using Weapon Finesse WITHOUT any Dex To Damage. They're basically poorfag options but you would hypothetically be saving on feats, and at later levels you might come out even with medium-high Dex-to-damage.

One is Trained Grace, the Fighter feature. A non-Fighter can get it with the Martial Focus feat, but at that point you're just punching yourself in the dick to be able to punch yourself in the dick. The Focused Weapon advanced training is better for damage, really.

WAY better is the Vigilante's Lethal Grace talent. You get Weapon Finesse for free, and then if you're using Weapon Finesse to attack with Dex and keeping your Str on damage, you get half your Vigilante level to damage as a bonus. This one will probably beat a fairly high-Dex build eventually, but still does have to get there over time. Vigilantes are good.
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>>49588195
Why are you willingly GMing for 2hu?
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>>49587996
Make it act like a nonstandard personality. Like a sassy black woman, or a snooty upper-crust aristocrat, or a humble farmer. Have them keep this personality even when they're granting the PCs incredible cosmic power.
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>>49588210

See

>>49587911

I will take the application of someone who writes a decently thought out application over the not an application of someone who whines about other people's applications.

If you want to throw me a better application, then by all means, go ahead.
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>>49588041
have you tried hiring a half-elf to disguise himself as your character and outwit the dice gods so that you can reap the rewards?
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>>49588073
>Also it's fucked up that you mention Weapon Specialization as if anyone ever born would recommend it even in a Dex-based Fighter build.
Hey, damage is damage. I'm just looking into any source of damage on 1H light weapons without just having absurd STR.

>>49588207
I'll look into the Vigilante, thanks.
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>>49588236
Maybe you'd have better players if the second app wasn't a literal Mary Sue that got accepted.
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>really want to make a Tengu who spends more time as a regular old crow than he does as a Humanoid, but don't want to play Druid because no corvid should have to pass up shiny things

Any ideas, /pfg/?
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Does an elementalist Wizard get spells from his element added to his spellbook automatically? If not, what happens to his bonus spell slot if he doesn't know any spells from his elemental school list of an appropriate level?
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>>49588348
Play a Hengeyokai
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Okay /pfg/, I could use some help. It's been so long since I've made a character, and even the ones I made were just merely okay in my opinion. My friend is running a module sometime soon-ish, and I've only got a few nibblits of backstory I'm kicking around, their race, and their main class. I'm planning on making a Drow Red Mantis Assassin. DM will allow anything third party as long as they can look it over to make sure it's kosher, and that's fine because I don't want to be a munchkin anyway.
I'm starting at level one. Its projected to take place in chelliax, but there's a few other adventures that could also be run. It depends on what's voted in, but I'll worry about it later if they want a different module.
Anyway, whatever you can help me with. Even just a few pointers will help.
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>>49588376
Nope, no free spell. If he wasn't smart when he picked his level-up spells he can get fucked, basically.
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>>49588385
It's not really clear what you want, sorry.
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>>49588406
Good to know. Thanks
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>>49588419
Oh, sorry.
I would like advice in creating a red mantis assassin. Like for example "Oh you should totally get that feat." or "Just do the required levels as a rogue." or something similar.
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>>49588265
No one has mentioned Piranha Strike yet, for shame.
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>>49588348
Witch gets a hex that allows them to shapeshift into a creature if they have it's skin. I'd rule that a cloak made of crow feathers would count for that.
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>>49588207
Martial Focus only ignore "weapon training" prerequisite. It doesn't ignore "Level 5 Fighter" prerequisite.
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>>49588348
What's the go on 3pp?
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>>49588585
Also, only for Weapon Mastery feats. Not everything.
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Got a quick Path of War question.

Let's say I take a couple of levels in Warlord and then a couple of levels in Myrmidion. How do the multiple sources of martial maneuvers interact with one another? Which Inititation modifier do I use when I fight? Do I have two completely different pools of maneuvers, each with their own way to regain maneuvers per day? Would I just have a l have a lot of low level maneuvers that I know?
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>>49588801
Would that be so unbelievable? The normal type of spellcasting works that way.
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What's the most brilliant thing you've seen a PC do in any of the games you've been a part of /pfg/?
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>>49588801
Different maneuver pools do not interact with each other at all.
You use charisma when using a warlord maneuver, and wisdom as a myrmidon one.
Also pretty sure they don't meet prerequisites for each other.

There are only two places where they interact:
-Your initiator level for Warlord will be (Warlord level + half myrmidon level), and vice versa for myrmidon
-Even in separate maneuver pools, you can never have the same maneuver readied twice.
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>>49588864
I don't fucking know. If you can remember, you haven't been gaming long enough.
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Yo i posted this in gamefinder too but i figred i'd drop it here too

>Player/GM
GM
>System
Pathfinder
>Time available (Incl. Timezone)
6pm - 12 midnight -7 UTC saturdays
>Voice or Text
Text
>Method of playing (Roll20, IRC, Skype)
Roll 20
>Contact info
[email protected]
>Additional information
Looking for 2-3 more players for a module, we have a forum for talking outside of gametime, as well as bullshitting.
Current party members include someone whos looking to play an unbound monk, and an alchemist,

Homebrew setting, a modified version of Rise of the Runelords to be played.
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>>49588348
There's a wondrous item that lets you assume the form of a raven or crow or bat.

Sadly, its not permanent and only at minutes increments per day
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>>49588924
How many cute Kitsune boi are there in the party
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>>49588348
Ask your GM to make the crow form feat be not shit.
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>>49588986
Zero so far.
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>>49588348
Where in the rule does it say that Druid can't have Shiny thing? Druid can be CN.
Stop thinking about Druid as hippy tree hugger.
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>>49588924
Too bad that timing doesn't work for me.
Best of luck to you though.

Btw you should also clarify whether you allow 3pp stuff.
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>>49588762
I could probably convince my GM to allow it, but it's safer to go with 1pp.

>>49588573
>>49588384
>>49588963
Thanks!

>>49588989
I could try that, too. I don't think he'd have a problem with it.

>>49589088
They lose their powers if in too much contact with metal. Very many shiny things are made of metal.
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>>49589119
They lose their casting if they wear metal armor and metal shields.

That's IT.
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Hey everyone, what's your favorite class and why? I've recently started playing and am looking to branch out past the basic fighter.
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>>49589162
Alchemist.
Extremely flexible.
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>>49585337
Just gonna bump this
Looking at Duskblades right now
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>>49589119
Like >>49589129 said. Only when wearing metal armor and shield. You can even use metal weapons with no penalty for crying out loud. They are proficiency in Scimitar for a reason.
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>>49584854

I think Battle Butler is a theme you can do with several classes. I would say you need the following:

Ability to function in no/light armor and with light, ideally concealable weapons
Good skill ranks, in particular in social skills, ideally with bonuses to some as a class feature.
Good combat ability.

Vigilante is the obvious choice, but I think an unchained rogue with the right talents, a majordomo or mastermind investigator, or even some of the more social swashbuckler/ranger/slayer/unchained monk/brawler archetypes can work well. If you don't mind having slightly more magic, you can probably make do with a bard or inquisitor as well.
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Inspired Blade 1 / Witch 5 / Eldritch Knight X

Good? Bad? Meh? Going for "Red Mage" kinda feeling. Complete with cool hat.
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>>49583988

In a level one module, I took out two guys with a single bear trap.

One guy walked through the door straight in the bear trap. Apologies are given, 'cause he wasn't the droid we were looking for.

Second guy walks through the door straight into the bear trap. Fucking dies.

I am PC though
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>>49589192
Interesting, what would be the best role for an alchemist to fill?
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>>49589509
Anvil is the Alchemist's preferred role.
Hammer or Arm can work, but are vastly subpar.
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>>49589509
>>49589530
In case you're a pleb and don't know meta tactics or what the Anvil role even is, read this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i5hWkHXHOetRlpLOmxbpoEWod77psN0JcwFvxClNrGc/edit
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>>49589551
Thank you, I was just about to ask.
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>>49589559
The typical grenade-lobbing Alchemist is a primary Anvil/secondary Hammer.
A vivisectionist or something can function as a primary Hammer, but it's underwhelming compared to the classic.
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>>49585068
My druid got to join the party.

>Half-elven druid who is awkward around people he doesn't know but thinks he needs the help of the party to save the forests
>His only friends are his two wolves and an Oread fighter he met a few years back
>Trusts the Oread to pass judgement on people they meet before he's willing to talk to them
>Doesn't like when people he's not too familiar with tell him to do something he was already planning to do
>Wants to find his human dad and reunite him with his elven mother
>Doesn't understand why people who live in cities and towns bury their dead and thinks "civilized" culture is weird but he doesn't criticize it
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Playing with a person who "forgets" how many spells he used, when he fails a roll he goes "oh wait i have", proceeds to take all gold/materials because he needs to make magic items but all he has made so far is a ring of feather fall. What do i do?
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I just recently learned that Earth exists in the PF universe, Cthulhu lives there, and the Egyptians worshiped gods that possibly originated from Golarion. My mind is steadily getting blown as I delve into the rabbit hole of PF lore.
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>>49589746
Exists, hell, you GO there. You visit WW1 Russia where it's revealed Rasputin was Baba Yaga's grandson or something and you have to assassinate him.
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>>49589756
I like that at least outside of Rasputin Must Die the staff at Paizo have very deliberately kept Earth far, far, far, far, far, impossibly far away from Golarion. "Yeah, it's out there, shit happens on it, might match our history, might not, yeah."
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>have a character concept for a Black Blade Magus
>realize I'd have to sacrifice optimization big-time to make the mechanics match the fluff
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>>49589765
It does kind of nix the "Golarion is post-apocalyptic Earth" deal though.
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Playing my 8th level UMonk Trickster/Champion with Enduring Armor and Deadly Dodge, my GM doesn't seem to like that my character has 31 AC (sometimes more if I spend MP for example). Next tier I'm going to grab Fleet Warrior and Mythic Weapon Finesse.
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Player in my game wants me to roll Spell Focus/Greater Spell Focus and Spell Pen/Greater Spell Pen together (that is, 2 feats rather than 4). They aren't a shithawk munchkin so I'm open to the idea, but I want to stagger the "Greater" sides of the feats so they unlock at a given caster level. Any suggestions what would be good? I'm think CL10 or 12
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>>49590453
31 AC for a level 8 isn't that high.
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>>49590491
It kinda is when you don't allow magic items. Or at least that's what my GM is complaining.
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Quick /pfg/! What are you making for /pfg/'s official lewd anime kemonomimi game?
https://app.roll20.net/join/1698250/KPjOew
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>>49590500
>Allowing Mythic
>Not allowing magic items

What the hell is he trying to achieve?
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>>49590603
A noose
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>>49590603
What is this?
This looks like it will be a mess.
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>>49590650
A mess YOU can join!
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>>49590603
What are the character creation rules? The link is a direct invite to join, not to a recruitment post or anything. Also, day/time/timezone? ffs
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>>49590719
There's a chargen rule thread there.
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>>49590491
The average CR8 creature is only going to hit him on a 17, though admittedly he is in a mythic game.
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>>49590740
Says nothing about time zones, or hasn't anything been agreed to yet?
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Any magic items you guys would recommend for an Arcanist? 6th level if that helps any.
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Noob q sorry pfg

If a LV2 wizard finds a high level scroll (e.g. Disintegrate) can he add it to his spell book with the appropriate checks? So it just remains in the spell book as a known spell but can't cast for a long time?
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>>49591012
If he makes the checks, pretty much.
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>>49590837
Do rings of wizardry work for arcanists? They're pretty powerful.
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>>49591193
It works for wizards, sorcerers, arcanists, bards, summoners, even skalds and bloodragers.

Anything that's arcane casting.
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Ok, so I'm working on my first PoW character for a level 4 campaign and so far I've managed to set the foundations, still something seems to feel off and the build kind of feels like it sucks.

I'm going for a Polymath/Vivisectionist built like a Beastmorph/Vivisectionist. Of all my available maneuvers Puglist stance, Bronze knuckle and Flurry strike seem to be the only worthwhile ones. Are there any better alternatives?

Current lineup:
Stances known: (x2)
Broken Blade: Puglist stance
Primal fury: Running Hunter's stance
Maneuvers known: (x6)
Broken blade: Flurry strike
Broken blade: Shards of Iron
Broken blade: Bronze knuckle
Primal fury: Panthera on the hunt
Primal fury: Primal wrath
Primal fury: Raging hunter pounce
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Divine Paragon got me thinking about the divine boons
Which god has the best boons?
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>>49591383
>Focusing on Broken Blade and Primal Fury, the two disciplines known for being OP and breaking the game with damage
>Worried about being weak

It's true neither of them give much versatility, but your killing potential is going to be fine.

(Also, do you know about Chimera Soul? I have a feeling that would fit your theme as a third discipline)
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>>49591576
Never heard of it, I've already traded solar wind for broken blade via unorthodox method and I dont think I can do it more than once nor can afford the traits to do so.
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>>49591576
>Chimera Soul
Not that anon, but I haven't. Where could I find this disciple?
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>>49591629
LotW
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>>49591606
>>49591629
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FcMpsY7ancpaWiBpFhI_jlARL8p2OXZhaFxAjzJCyW4/edit?usp=sharing

Also, martial traditions are the thing.
Scroll way down to The Temple of the Formless Spirit.
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Lads!

What are the top three types of characters you want to see submitted to the eastern fluffy tail campaign, I want to make something and I aim to please!
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>>49591961
Squirrels!
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>>49591160
thx anon
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What does having climbing speed means? that I'm fucking spiderman? that I don't actually need hands to climb surfaces?
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>>49591961
Someone from faraway place, baffled with eastern abundance of fluffines.
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>>49591961

>Gillman bloatmage who's the very epitome of fat southern gennul'man
>Dhampir skald who plays the sax and who has never managed to wear a shirt for more than fifteen minutes at a time
>An actual gnoll
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>>49591961
I like birds, somewhat disappoint we got none.
>>49590773
Roleplaying is somewhat one on one chats with me, as the characters don't start in a party. You only need to establish a meeting time when you're gonna interact with another PC.
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>>49591961
What eastern campaign is this?
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>>49592035
:D

I never knew what I really wanted until it was too late.
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>>49592038
Aren't birds, like, really important in Celtic mythology or something?

Just put a ton of birds in the Celt place.
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>>49592041
See
>>49588030

Oni got an updated backstory.
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>>49592058
Oooh? Didn't know, thanks!
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>>49592066
http://www.celticheritage.co.uk/articles_animals.cfm

http://symboldictionary.net/?p=942

The big one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Lir
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>>49592066
Skype?
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>>49590603
What does 'lewd' mean in this context? There's a shitton of variety involved and I don't wanna sign up for surprise ogre rape.
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>>49592126
Fluffy tails WILL be touched.
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>>49592126
Are you saying it's okay if it's not a surprise?
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>>49592038
>Roleplaying is somewhat one on one chats with me, as the characters don't start in a party. You only need to establish a meeting time when you're gonna interact with another PC.

So you're essentially running about six different solo campaigns in the same setting until people meet up?
Each one with battles and storyline?
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>>49592152

Girls prefer a little preptime before they get a foot of fat ogre dick shoved into them.
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>>49592032

What about a Zweihander Sentinel who's true passion is books and mercantilism?

The Marco Polo to this Orient, in other words!
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Is it better to use wish scrolls or to buy/craft those manuals/tomes of inherent stat bonus?
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So what's your current party composition, /pfg/?
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I want to build a crossbow wizard. Already got Half elf- Ancestral Arms to get a repeating crossbow and then I usually use gravity bow
Anything else to make it more "synergic?"
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>>49592364
First you need aspect of the falcon, repeating crossbows are shit, rapid reload on a regular crossbow is already better, but if you can use 3pp get an autoloader magazine (it also helps make adamantine bolts,etc a bit cheaper longterm).

You wizard's going to have a big problem: Crossbows aren't against touch-AC like firearms are, but your BAB is CRAP. This also lowers your potential damage - not just from lost attacks but from lower output from things such as deadly aim. So you need to fix your BAB.

You also need a stat to damage, or what the fuck was the point?

Welcome to crossbowland, population "everyone's playing catch-up desperately to - if they can get enough class abilities and feats - almost hit as hard as if they used a bow"
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Slots are filling up fast, join /pfg/'s official lewd fluffy tail game now!

https://app.roll20.net/join/1698250/KPjOew
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>>49592274
wishes replicate spells not provide bonuses
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>>49592407
>First you need aspect of the falcon
Got nerfed.
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>>49592364
Give it ghost touch and you essentially have the Ethereal Crossbow from Heretic.
Also attempt to take DSPs Autoloader Magazine from Steelforge to put out more shots per round (and duplicate powerful bolts).

And it's "synergistic", by the way.
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>>49592429
The Bracers of Falcon's Aim were nerfed, not the spell itself.
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>>49592429
Only those specific bracers did.

So just make an item: Aspect of the Falcon; continuous function. Level 1 spell caster level 1 2000gp.
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>>49592413
>Fluffy tail.
Fuck no, I apped a super militant inquisitor. REMOVE FAE, REMOVE FAE.
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>>49592454
>>49592455
Custom magic items are cancer.
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What's your favorite discipline?
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>>49592413
Seriously, we talking full-on party orgy or just ecchi anime shit? There is SO MUCH middle ground. If I wanted to be violated by a panther I'd buy Radiance House, but if it's less crazy than that I'm vaguely interested.
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Question: I want to run a module, but I'm not entirely certain which module. Any of you guys have recommendations?
>>
>>49592565
Whatever you want one on one~
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Is there anyone here with the PDF for Roil Dancer Kineticist? Could you post screenshots?
>>
Is there a 3pp version of a Cavalier that isn't shit?
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>>49592501
And the nerfed bracers aren't?

>CL 3rd
>1st level spell with duration 1 minute / level
>the item only lasts 1 minute
>CL 3rd

>Cost is 4000
>Cost as if it were slotless continuous 1st level with CL 1
>Actual cost of 1/day command type CL 1 1st level would be 360gp
>Cost if it were caster level 3rd like it arbitrarily claims to be would be 1080
>Cost is 4000

They took an item that has been around literally for years, completely broke it, and didn't even think to adjust the cost to FIT THEIR OWN FUCKING RULES.

Custom magic items are why you should go fuck yourself with a fucking chainsaw, you worthless piece of shit.
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>>49592274
Anyone? I'm trying to figure out how the costs all add up
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>>49592565

I'd violate you if we got into the campaign, anon.
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>>49592693
If you actually wanted to know, it would take like 2 minutes for you to look it up.
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>>49592715
thing is though the scrolls have diamond material costs, but are those modified when crafting or something?
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Hey all been looking over classes but have a question. Is there any type of class in PF that is like 5e's Warlock where I can make a pact with a Elder God in exchange for power? Really love Eldritch type classes.
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>>49592737
Pact Wizard?
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Hey, new player here. I'm the DM for a newly formed PF group and I need help.

I bought the beginner box because, while I have the core rule book, I have never DM'd before and none of the people in my group have ever played PnP before at all. The group is mostly comprised of hardcore normies who didn't even know what a Dwarf was. Also, spoilers just in case

The beginner box offers a level 1 encounter for new groups to run called Black Fang's Dungeon. Over the course of the dungeon the players discover that "Black Fang" is a young black dragon using the dungeon as its home. The beginner box GM manual outright states that despite its stats being adjusted for lower level encounters the party will not be able to defeat Black Fang and is recommended I end the encounter before too many players are knocked out or close to dying

So here's my problem: How do I do a Deus Ex Machina without it fucking up the pacing of my game?

I had an idea of adding in a one off DMPC that the groups meets while in the dungeon. He's just a simple, friendly, freshly recruited Dwarven cleric who get trapped while investigating the old runes written on the walls of the dungeon. His background is that he spent most of his youth to middle age as a miner before having a midlife crisis and realising that he's always wanted to go on great adventures. So he joins up with a religious order and is now in Sandpoint investigating rumours of religious relics. I tried to make him as least obnoxious and un-Mary Sue as possible to avoid typical DMPC shit. In fact, I don't even intend for him to be in combat and rather he focuses on tossing around a heal or two for the party. I also fully intend for him not to survive the dungeon. I planned for him sacrifice himself so that he can save the party from Black Fang. Not kill it mind you, just sort of drive it back or distract it when the fight gets too brutal

Is this fine? Any advice is welcome.
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>>49592726
No. Expensive material component costs are simply added to the crafting cost after all other adjustments.
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>>49592681
Not that the nerf wasn't bullshit, but the magic item creation rules have always been more guidelines than anything else.
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>>49592737
There's the demon lords and their obediences stuff, and the witch class (but forget being offensively powerful, they're all about Save-Or and vancianness).

But remember that 5e warlocks have more of a "study" or "apprenticeship" relationship in their pact; you learn magic from the thing and it may not even know you're alive. Those who exchange, say, souls/services instead get their power at full speed, whereas the regular warlock not only STUDIES their way into power (despite CHA; read the fluff) but is then growing no faster than any other class at all. They're learning magic differently, but it's their magic.

Spellburst savants and some other upcoming 3pp works are probably closer to what you want overall.
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>>49592750
You already fucked up by picking PF as your first system, sorry.
>>
>>49592737
Forrest (DSP writer) is working on something like that.
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>>49592746
Gonna check that out right now. A huge overwhelming amount of classes and stuff so hard to find things.
>>49592774
Yea I know what you mean. My character in 5e plain out sold his soul to his pact in order to gain power. Will check more into this and be on the look out for 3PP.
>>49592799
Nice! Gonna be on the watchout for Forrest's work.
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>>49592363

>Cleric of Abadar
>Bolt Ace Gunslinger
>Skald
>Beast-bonded Witch
>Witch Killer Slayer
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>>49592795
I see, I suppose the only left now is to commit sudoku
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What class should this be in Pathfinder?
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>>49588135
>>49588154
Gareth-san how do you feel about someone using a blinkling empire?
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>>49588864
>roll to grapple the wurm
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>>49593019
>lightly/not armored
>some magic thingy
>a martial weapon
Don't know who or what, but its either a Magus or some Eldritch Knight
>>
Does anyone have that initiating Owlbear homebrew?
>>
New Thread

>>49593203
>>49593203
>>49593203
>>49593203
>>49593203
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>>49589894
>thaf filename length
what the fuck
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>>49592363
>Brutal Slayer//Mutation Exemplar
>Warder//Fighter
>Myrmidon Silverblade//Rake
>Incanter//Soulknife
>Kineticist//Warlord
>Bard//Paladin
Plus two more who haven't submitted characters yet.
>>
>>49593778
A flamboyant mesmerist
An edgy investigator
And an angry half-orc
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>>49592363
Human Shaman, Elf Rogue, Gnome Oracle, Aasimar Gunslinger
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