Warhammer 40k General

>>49585707
>Daemon Magnus is Ugly AF

Wait, did the model drop already?

>>49585756
Starting these with troll Chaos rumors is old-hat.

Deathwatch Kill Team DID NOTHING WRONG

Salamander -- Team Leader
Lamenter
Black Dragon
Wolf Brother
Fire Hawk
Marine Malevolent
Astral Claws Blackshield
Doom Eagle
Flesh Tearer
Death Spectre
Minotaur

All lead by a Thousand S--- I mean, BLUHD REHVEN Librarian for the ultimate in did-nothing-wrong.

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First for someone stop me please

>>49585901
Get the crashed thunderhawk instead

>>49585897
The only problem I have with this is that the Wolf Brothers were lost before papa russ disappeared so its just not feasible
Otherwise I think all of those chapters existed in a fairly decent overlap

It seems like Land Raiders are pretty easily countered though. Playing against Deathwing a few months ago and I took out two LR's with Lascannon devs and two multi-melta LandSpeeders. Or are those just really good counters I used?

>>49585942
That's true. Who might I replace him with?...

>>49585915
But the crashed thunderhawk doesn't come with a titan gun
I may just order a full 6 tiles, my club could use some new terrain

>>49585897
I'm pretty sure there's an actual Deathwatch kill team in one of the books that has a Black Dragon and Flame Falcon in it used by a Radical Inquisitor to Solve Problems.

>>49585897
Put in a pre-renegade Soul Drinker.

>>49585970
Fair enough then, all the tiles are cool honestly

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>>49585756
Yep.

>>49585901
Do it.
Get the landing pad and the castellum stronghold too

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>>49585958
>>49585897
Yeah, drop the Wolf Brother for a Soul Drinker.

Dindu, the Team. Perfect team leader, by the way. Because he's black. Also, the fluff fit just right.

>>49585897
A lamenter and a flesh tearer hanging out would be some sad shit. The lamb can hold it together so much better and tries to help rip&tear, but is cursed to die horribly. Rip&tear admires the lamb, tries to be good like him but doesn't know how, eventually loses his grip and goes black rage when the lamanter gets killed. Even the doom eagle thinks this is dark.

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>>49586341
Why would you post this? What compelled you to do this to me?

>>49585901
Mmm, Lord of War fortification!

>>49586341
I want a drama of this

Any thoughts on this HoR tyranid squad?

Neurothrope w/Synaptic Pain Suppression and Biosense - 63

Hormagaunt Squad - 25

Hormagaunt Squad - 25

4 Genestealers - 56

Warrior - 30

Tyrant Guard - 50

Total - 249

Pretty straight forward. Wondering if I should take replace a squad of hormagaunts with termagaunts, and give the warrior a deathspitter?

>>49585897
What did the Salamanders do wrong?

>>49586370
>>49586384

Gotta throw greek tragedy into 40k when you can.

>>49586444
Nothing, he's there for dramatic effect (good guy leading some other good guys, some cursed guys, and some bad guys).

>>49586488
What is this, Kill Team X?

>>49586205
The landing pad is a must with the downed thunderhawk, a bit of tasteful irony, but I'm not really a fan of the fortress, it just feels too much like a generic RTS base

Currently sitting at 1750. Not sure I'm happy with this, particularly the Vanguard Vets. Any thoughts?

Angel's Blade Strike Force

Leaders of the Angelic Host
Sanguinary Priest (Angel's Wing, Auspex)

Leaders of the Angelic Host
Sanguinary Priest (Jump Pack, Auspex)

Archangels Demi-Company
Terminator Captain (Power Sword, Storm Bolter)
Furioso Dreadnought (Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Magna-Grapple, Drop Pod)
Furioso Dreadnought (Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Magna-Grapple, Drop Pod)
Sternguard Veterans x5 (Combi Melta x3, Drop Pod)
Assault Terminators x5 (TH/SS x5)
Assault Terminators x5 (TH/SS x5)
Vanguard Veterans x5 (Inferno Pistol x4)
Vanguard Veterans x5 (Inferno Pistol x4)

10th Company Ambush Force
Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Shotguns)
Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Shotguns)
Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Combat Blades)

Not a CSM player, but I recently realized that only the aspiring champion of a rubrick squad is a psyker (instead of a brotherhood of sorcerers or whatever), so that means all the ablative mooks are the mindless husks of walking armor. (Before, I thought they just sort of existed amorphously, and the squad was a brotherhood, and the chaos sorcerers were The Psykers of the legion).

Anyways, this realization had me open the CSM codex for the first time, and I noticed that rubricks are T4. How does this make sense? They cannot be "wounded" as I understand it. Being shot in the face is just as inconvenient as getting shot in the wrist, when it comes to armor integrity. And one such "wound" still instantly cripples the suit. What I mean is, it should be a hell of a lot more difficult (or easier, or SOMETHING) to kill a walking suit of power armor than it is to disable a flesh-and-blood man inside said suit of armor. I mean, a lascannon can blast a hole right through your middle, and you should just walk it off like a spooky skeleton in a classic horror movie or something. That said, I just realized that no modern movie does skeletons anymore. What the fuck?

Why is there no crunch reflecting their remarkable difference from other marines?

>>49586502
Seconded, how about the generator instead?

>>49586444
As the mostly clearly "good guys" of the setting, it'd take nothing less than a Salamander to willfully accept those teammates and trust onto them in battle.

>>49586526

Don't forget that the Psyker is also one of the shittiest in the game, due to his using spells from the God of Psykers.

>>49586526
Well, they do have a 4++. It's not much, and it doesn't really help, but it's something.

So I just started playing 40k after painting some models for the last few months. I have both Blood Angels Codex and Angel's Blade. Because I have the models for it I am gonna try to build Death Company Strike Force in the Doomed Sons of Sanguinus formation (believe that's what it's called.) I need to have 1200 points for December for the next tourny for fun at my flgs.

So I was wondering how I could build a fun army out of that but also have it be good so I do have some sorta chance of winning? I have a Death Company Dreadnought, 10 Death Company Minis, and Astorath.

>>49586538
The generator and the concourse section makes 5, how would the imperial dugout tile match up with this table?

>>49585707
Where's your 4hrs of MSPaint GSC dude OP?

>>49586622

If you don't see a GSC guy then obviously he's doing his job.

>>49586546
Can they still not cast the Chaos AoD spells?

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>>49586642

So set up a 2v2 Saturday with my Dark Angels and friend's Blood Angels against Nurgle CSM/Daemons and KDK. 1500pts per player.

Hoping to have a blast. We all agreed no fliers or Lord of Wars and are hoping for a fluffy game.

I just finished a Land Raider Crusader and am thinking about bringing a small representation of all three wings.

How's this sound in terms of fluffy but effective and friendly:

HQ:
Servo Harness Techmarine on a Bike with Power Axe

Elite:
Deathwing Command Squad with DW banner, apothecary, and Cyclone Missile launcher in a Landraider Crusader. Five Terminators.

Ravenwing Command Squad with Apothecary and RW banner. Three Bikers total.

Troops:
2 Six man Tacical Squads in TL Lascannon Razorbacks

Then the Dark Angels Conclave that buffs their interromancy (which will be much more friendly than some invisibility shit) consisting of:

ML2 Librarian on bike with force sword
ML2 Librarian in Terminator Armor with For Smiter and a Force Axe
Ezekiel, DA named librarian.

All the bikers will roll together while the term is and Eze hop in the Crusader.

>>49586526
Yeah it's the 4++.
Unless you want to give them reanimation protocols.

>>49586526
>How does this make sense? They cannot be "wounded" as I understand it.
busting armor, crippling mobility

they're no longer flesh and bone, but still rely on the power armor to physically move around

>I just realized that no modern movie does skeletons anymore. What the fuck?
blame the lucrative chinese market

>>49586689
Why six-man tac squads? Do they have upgrades?

>>49586689
>We all agreed no fliers
Yeah, that restriction definitely doesn't hurt the Chaos side a lot more than the Imperial side.

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Can we talk about how fucking stupid Space Marine spit is?

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anyone play a game today? I played my 30k Imperial Fists against a friend's 40k Chaos + Renegades. I blew up all his toys but he won by a landslide with objectives.

>>49586723
Doesn't a Razorbacks fit six? No upgrades. I use them in my MSU Lions Blade.
They are just there to rep greenwing.
What upgrade would be worthwhile.

BA is bringing his Death Company Flesh Tearers.

>>49586735
It's not anymore stupid than any of the other things SM have.

>>49585901
Crashed Thunderhawk is better for Capture the Relic and Fluffy "Hold the line" missions.

>>49586734
I think only Nurgle owns a Heldrake while BA has a Fire Raptor and I have three DA fliers. We also agreed no LoW and I know BA and KDK have Knights.

>>49586751

Played some killteam yesterday, surprised how well my Tau team is doing in my shops campaign desu

>>49586458
A Greek Tragedy is where the protagonist meets an unhappy end due to his own failures or terrible choices, so I don't think this is really a Greek Tragedy.

It is, however, a tragedy.

>>49586754
Well sure it FITS six, but a lone tac marine isn't as good as, say, a melta or plasma gun. You can drive the Razorbacks up to objectives, drop the squad + their special weapon on it, and they'll be able to do some damage to attackers while the Rbacks can zip around Lascannon'ing things.

>>49586651
As far as I know they still have to take at least one power from the Discipline of Tzeentch because of MoT, and are still capped at ml1 so they still can't take another power from another discipline.

I haven't read Traitors Hate, but I doubt that they included a caveat to let you sub the mandatory gods' discipline spell for a heretic astartes spell.

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Would a metamorph get the benefits of whatever metamorph weapon it has even if it is using its rending claws? Because in the rules for the weapon it says that a model equipped with the weapon gets the buff.

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>>49586693
But the 4++ has literally nothing to do with them being walking armor and everything about them being tzeench-favored.

They didn't even have the good grace to give it a Legion of the Damned edge. Whom are apparently more favored and better at being walking suits of armor with their 3++.

>>49586825
Yes

>>49586781
What's the list?

>>49585897
And the list! Hot off the presses.

Librarian - 110
ML 2
Jump Pack

AQUILA KILL TEAM - 450

Veterans - 220
4x Frag Cannons
Melta Gun

Drop Pod - 35

Vanguard Veterans - 195
2x pairs of claws
1x Sword + Shield
1x TH/SS
1x Sword

ANCIENTS

Venerable Dreadnought - 140
TLLC


And the characters--

vet squad:
Salamander -- Melta Gun
Fire Hawk
Soul Drinker
Astral Claw
Marine Malevolent

vvets:
Lamenter -- Sword and Board
Flesh Tearer -- Claws
Doom Eagle -- Sword + Pistol
Black Dragon -- Claws (will be modeled as his own appendages)
Minotaur -- TH/SS

Anyone know how well Chaos Black Prime works in, say, 82% Humidity at 27 C?

Because Florida is a bitch.

>>49586854

6x Firewarriors with Pulse Rifles, one with FNP, one with mastercrafted and one with infiltrate + Support turret with smart missile system

2x Piranha

Crisis Suit with 2 plasma rifles (leader)

>>49586813
So drop one of each tactical and pick up a special wep. Probably melta in case they bring armor.

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>>49585707
Painting some termies for a friends custom loyalist chapter theyre white with some orange highlights.

What shade is best to wash white with? I think i remember hearing blue but i wanted to be sure.

>>49586998
You can use blue or black, depends on how pronounced you want the shading.

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>Death Company Command
Astorath 165pt

>Death Company Strike Force
Death Company Chaplain, 125pt

Death Company Dreadnought 125pt
-Blood Talons 10pt
-Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod 50pt

>3 Death Company Squads (all 3)
5 Marines 100pt x3
-Jumpacks 15pt x3
-Power weapon 15pt x3
-Power Fist 25pt x3
-Bolter Pistols and Chainswords for the rest

That puts me at 775pt for a 1200 point game. I am still new to this (and not sure if this is the right place to post these questions) but what points should I focus on in improving this army to meet the 1200? Troop count feels really damn small but they are expensive as fuck.

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>>49586879
Post lists? Obviously if we're posting kill teams, sure why not.

Raptors Tactics: 203(Because awkward equipment costs for scouts)

5-Man Scout Squad
Unnamed Specialist - Combi-Grav/cloak: Relentless
Unnamed Scrub - Bolter/cloak
Unnamed Scrub - Bolter/cloak
Unnamed Scrub - Bolter/cloak
Mantis - Heavy Bolter/cloak: Reaping Volley

5-man Sternguard Vet squad
Unnamed Scrub: Combi-Grav
Company Champion Solidus: Just a bolter and his trusty knife.
Unnamed Scrub
Unnamed Scrub
Veteran Rapture: Preferred Enemy

Company Champion Solidus is my kill-team leader. Normally he's my company champion(who follows around Captain Valentine in the first company), but for kill teams I'm just assuming that he wanted to join their squad purely for the sake of using their special ammo. Who would want to deny the resident knife-wielding "I kill terminators with a fucking knife" maniac?

So far I've been marking kill-counts on the board for all of my unnamed scrubs. Maybe someday they'll do something badass in the local KT scene and earn themselves some names. So far only Mantis has earned a name in the current tournament, because he consistently gets at least 8 kills a game.

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>>49587096
Oh shit it's Raptor Anon.

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>>49587117
Thanks bro. Since when am I infamous enough to have a .gif named after me?

>>49587131
Since everytime you post, someone argues with you, it's hilarious.

>>49586894
>82% humidity

That doesn't seem like a good idea

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>>49586894
>GW "primers"

>>49586894
Just get a hygrometer. Or god forbid just go outside. If you see ANY clouds over your house, don't bother priming. I live in florida too(Up north by jacksonville), so I have a go-box of shit I want to prime, but have to wait several weeks at a time for ideal conditions to prime.

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Scions used out of the Militarum Tempestus codex can't take chimeras as dedicated transports, right? Only Taurox primes?

>>49587096
Oh hey raptor anon, how comes the monster grills?
How is ancient valentine did you ever finish repainting him?

>>49587155
What's your preferred alternative?

>>49587096
I love the spartan looking models but I'm not a big fan of the camp cloaks. Could you post pictures from behind?

>>49587192
Yep.

why is erryone so mad?

>>49587230
There are at least 5 posts between you and the nearest angry-ish post :)

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>>49587195
Monstergrils are getting assembled. Also Ancient Valentine finally got his basecoat up, so I'm going to be finishing him completely tomorrow. I haven't touched valentine's paintjob in so long, so it's nice to finally be getting around to finishing him, even if it's not to the quality I originally set out for.

>>49587220
Here's the behind of my scouts Camo Cloaks. I'm not too satisfied with the grass either, although they've gotten pretty popular at my geedubs as the "Fuzzies squad".

>>49587142
I didn't think so either. Hince why I'm asking /tg for their experiances
>>49587157
Winter cannot come fast enough!
>>49587155
Chaos Black's worked really well when the recommended tempuratures are available. But since my vehicles use a non-GW paint I'm careful to only use the same color black as the basecoat/primer.

For the lighter colored troops I actually use a grey Rustolium primer (specifically the primer, not just one of the paints). Because it's rugged and works in tempuratures up to 85 degrees. Thinking of switching to Krylon, though.

>>49587278
I use Army Painter Black with really good results.
I also have humidity issues, the inside of my house is really good though so I mostly have to spray in my storage room next to an open window and still get a nice coat thanks to the AC.

>>49586894
>>49587157
What happens? Family just moved to Florida, and I had no idea humidity made it so you can't prime

>>49587365
You ever see those models covered in bumps? That. Anyone got any pictures?

>>49587365
Okay, basically the primer in your spraycan will pick up tiny-ass water droplets in the air on its path to the model, and it then proceeds to fuckup your primer. If you prime when it's too humid outside, then the result will be that your model gets fuzzy and rough. It also won't hold paint at all.

The only way to redeem a model that has been wet-primer'd is to strip it.

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Post your faces when we won't get 8th until 2020 and CSM and Orks will still not get shit

After listing to the Repairer of Ruin Audio book I realized I forgot how awesome Fabius Bile is.

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>>49587382
I got one right here. I made this very mistake back when I first started the game, and ended up ruining a perfectly good predator tank.

does anyone have the instructions image for photographing a mini well?

>>49587461

Make sure the can's nozzle is clear of any dried armor plates when you're done spraying. That shit will get everywhere the next time you use it.

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>>49587493

>>49587388
To add on, if you strip it. YOU WILL LOSE DETAIL. Unless someone has some sort of method I haven't tried, any attempts to strip a model have made me lose detail on them. I've tried Simple Green, non-acetone nail remover, etc.

>>49587461
lmfao

>>49587552
Super Clean hasn't given me any loss of detail. Leave it in for 24 hours, paint falls right off, no damage whatsoever to the models.

>>49587552
Purple Power can safely strip plastic without loss of detail. Unfortunately it also takes a LONG-ass time to work. If you want to strip metal models, just use straight up acetone.

Also, in a pinch, you can just use hand-soap and a toothbrush to strip models if you want to put some elbow grease into it.

>>49586751
But why would your Iron Warriors fight other Chaos?

>>49587461
Seriously though, you guys know what I mean, right?

>>49587552
Castrol super clean.

Strips paint off anything and does zero, and I mean literally zero, damage to the model, even if it's plastic. Haven't tried it with resin but I'm told it works just as well there too.

Soak models in it overnight or even for a couple days for best effect, the paint will basically peel right off. Just use gloves when handling the liquid or reaching into it to retrieve your models or it will burn you like acid if it stays on your skin for a length of time. Doesn't have harmful fumes though, at least not on any noticeable level if you aren't intentionally huffing it.

this anon here: >>49587570


I can confirm >>49587595, works on resin real good. Though I haven't had the burns for some reason.

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>>49587524
> MFW

>>49587588
supplies, backstabbing, revenge, loyalist trickery, changeling prank, cat vs dog argument that got out of hand.

>>49587610
>Though I haven't had the burns for some reason.
Well if you're running your hands under water immediately after grabbing the models it probably cleans them off before the stuff can do its work on your skin. I always use the gloves just to be safe.

>>49587588
Chaos fights other Chaos more than it fights anything else.

>>49587157
Same here Anon. I live in SW Florida, and if I'm lucky on the weekends at 1pm in the afternoon the humidity is low enough that I might be able to prime on the weekends. So many conditions that need to be met. Needless to say, I've got plenty of stuff that needs to be primed for my CSM. Around 50% humidity is my best shot for priming.

>>49587610
>>49587650
Just use Neoprene Gloves. I have a pair of black gloves that I got like a month ago, and the chemicals I use to strip models have since turned said gloves grey. They also burn skin on contact.

>>49587588
let the meme die anon. this is the 40k general no need to legiones sperg.

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>>49587526

thanks

pic related is the model I got in the mail this morning, painting it now. I'm kind of disappointed with how the leather turned out so flat and uninteresting - what's the best way to highlight it and add detail?

>>49587716
too much wash is your major problem

>>49587716
Did you properly shake your washes before you applied them? It's looking a little too shiny.

>>49587758

no, I didn't. I'm newish to painting, at least beyond the basic color+wash level to get painted models on the table. Should I reapply a foundation layer and wash it more lightly?

A friend of mine wants me to start playing. He invited me to go with him as he played his Chaos Army at a local tournament a few weeks back. There were a few different armies but at every table there were always 2 players either playing Eldar and/or Tau. My friend lost every match and it seemed like everyone was mostly annoyed with the Eldar and Tau. Is there any point to playing this game because it seems like these two armies just steamroll everything?

>>49587778
Not that anon but I would say just try to layer over the the bits that are suppose to be lighter but keep the recesses darker from the wash. It may look "good enough" after that.

>>49587716
You have too much wash on your top-most layer. It's actually OKAY to have too much wash, so long as you only apply washes in thin coats(or spread over a large area). But I would highly recommend you get some layer paint and put it on top of the wash. Also it has to be a paint specifically designated as "layer".

Layer paints are somewhat transparent, so they show a little bit of the color underneath them. Heavy washing can be used in combination with thin layers to create a natural gradient from highlights to lowlights. But this is a fairly advanced technique that requires a good bit of practice, however it's not that difficult once you get a hang of the idea.

>>49587781
It's more like your friend is playing the second worst army in the game versus the best army and second best army in the game.

Everyone being annoyed with Eldar and Tau is expected.

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>>49587570
>>49587574
>>49587595
Yeah, I'll probably use Super Clean the next time I have to strip. These WIP guys had to get stripped twice because the GW Incubi Darkness spray FUCKED UP HARD and was all dusty and shit. I thought It was maybe just to humid or hot, so after stripping I found a decent day and got a repeat performance. Luckily the redshirt was a bro replaced the can even though I had used it all. Now I'm just hoping to salvage what I can from them. I have another squad of the old model Kabalites that I might just throw away because they were in the same batch and the only got uglier.

>>49587781
Eldar and Tau are the most OP armies in the game. In fact, they are so OP that if you're not playing a toppest of top tier army, you should be immediately refusing games with anyone playing Taudar. They aren't going to be fun for you.

>>49587827
Note: Most of their damage came from the first stripping which was 2 days in Simple Green. I tried the non-acetone nail polish soak for a half hour or so and that only emphasized the damage.

>>49587821
Well I was considering Any of the Space Marines Chapters, but am leaning on Blood Angels or Space Wolves (just because I like the colours of both) or go with Imperal Guard.

I have gone to a few game days that are hosted at a local shop on Saturdays and even there I just see a bunch of Tau and Eldar players.

>>49587827
> Redshirt replacing fucked up paint

Shiiet, your local redshirt's pretty nice then. I have fucking tourets, and so sometimes I'll just pick up a paint bottle and involuntarily spill it everywhere. I have on two seperate occasions bought paint from my local geedubs, and ended up spilling all of it within minutes from my spasms. The manager never offers to replace anything, and instead LOUDLY insists that I need to buy more.

>>49587844
>Tau

I'm one of those guys who plays this game just because I love to paint minis. Out of all the people I play with I only know 1 player that bothers to paint his Tau army just because he loves their design and legit enjoys their lore. Everyone else I have met are just playing these dudes because they want to cheese it to win. I actually have started to refuse playing with people with a tau list and their armies aren't even given a damn primer.

>>49587922
>tfw I play Tau, enjoy the fluff, and paint my models but I can't discuss that here because it could trigger someone

>>49587879
Blood Angels are a pretty decent army, and Space Wolves have a wonderful color scheme, but too much WOLFWOLFWOLF everywhere. I like how FW paints them, both their grey scheme and blue scheme.

New white dwarf scan up yet?

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>>49587955

I don't think anyone would mind Tau half as much if GW put some effort into making them fit more neatly into the setting. I don't mind Eldar or Necrons even when they are bulldozing me, but Tau bother me because their noblebright goodguy aura is just sickeningly out of place in the universe.

If more attention was paid to the Greater Good being a lie, or the Ethereals mind controlling the empire, or fuck even if the Tau started losing or committing warcrimes or something, then they'd be fine with me.

>>49587955
That does't trigger me. What triggers me are players who are just in it to win and don't even have the decency to strip their models of mold lines because their army is going straight onto Ebay as soon as the next OP codex drops.

>>49588019
Same. Tau actually need to retroactively retcon themselves into having a higher population/territory because, iirc, there are Xenos empires even larger than theirs in the fluff.

The Tau just don't fit in 40k.

>>49587971
Thanks, I think I will actually read up on the lore of both chapters and see which one I enjoy more then go with that.

>>49588061
So, as a newbie. Who put them in and why?

>>49588019
Tau with some more obvious flaws would be nice. The blurb in the genestealer cult codex gives me a little bit of hope, but I know they'll fuck it up the second we get back to Shadowsun or Farsight.

>>49588019
>>49588061
This. So much.

>>49588085
They're an appeal to a more regular sci-fi audience.

>>49588074
No problem anon! Just remember, there are many successor chapters for all the first founding chapters, so you might find a color scheme you like more. However, for lore reasons, there are no Space Wolf successors. Which is a good thing you like their colors! Both armies are melee oriented, iirc.

>>49588085
Tau were literally introduced to appeal to the Mecha market of the late 90's and early 2000's, iirc.

>>49587696
But it's just too easy.

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>>49587955
> tfw I play monstergirl operators, write my own fluff, and build-paint my own models
> Discuss it anyway, despite how much it triggers people

>>49588121
is it so wrong to love the color silver and hate iron warriors

>>49587955
You're not going to trigger me friend, but you will disappoint me greatly if you show up with nothing but marker drones and crisis suits with riptides up the ass at 1,500 points. That's just not fun to play against. I already have to deal with a tau player who does that and insists it isn't that bad because he rolls poorly....as he hits with all markerlights and jacks up every suits BS to 5 and ignores cover and my painstakingly painted Terminator Captain+ terminator squad gets torn to bits turn 2 because there was a miscommunication on what "casual game" meant.

>>49587955
I think Tau are a-ok.
Even though I am not a huge fan of them...heck I prefer them over space wolves. Something about space wolves bothers me.

>>49588150
You don't trigger me, raptors-anon kun :3

>>49588194
>It's a fair list because sometimes I roll poorly!
>It's just a casual fun game after all!

This player needs to be dropped in a room filled with hundreds of horny chimpanzees.

Fiddling with the so-called "Deathcurion". 13pts over at the moment, at 1863.
Lost Brotherhood Strike Force

Death Company Command
[125pts] Death Company Chaplain

Death Company Strike Force
[125pts] Death Company Chaplain
[170pts] Death Company Dreadnought (Blood Talons, Magna-Grapple, Drop Pod)
[247pts] Death Company Squad x9 (Jump Packs, Power Fist, Inferno Pistol)
[178pts] Death Company Squad x6 (Jump Packs, Power Fist, Inferno Pistol)
[178pts] Death Company Squad x6 (Jump Packs, Power Fist, Inferno Pistol)

10th Company Ambush Force
[65pts] Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Shotguns)
[65pts] Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Shotguns)
[65pts] Scout Squad x5 (Teleport Homer, Combat Blades)

Archangels Orbital Intervention Force
[215pts] Assault Terminators x5 (TH/SS x3, LC x2)
[215pts] Assault Terminators x5 (TH/SS x3, LC x2)
[215pts] Assault Terminators x5 (TH/SS x3, LC x2)

Interests:
-Fitting in the Gilded Crozius on a Chaplain.

-Replacing the Command with Astorath or Lemartes? I don't know if they're actually worth it.

-Melta Gun or Heavy Flamer on Dread?

Any help would be appreciated.

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>>49588198
What's wrong, can't handle all this wolf?

Reminder that cult ambush isn't infiltrate.

>>49588234
I tend to not play against him all that much anymore. You know how often I actually play with my terminators? Once in a blue moon, because I know they're not the best elite choice to take but damned if those bulldogs aren't impressive to look at.

>the tau literally gave an entire planet to the Genestealer Cults because they're so "friendly and tolerant". They eventually had to fight for 10 years to get rid of them.

>Tau
>Competant and Intelligent

Pick one.

>>49588279
I love Terminators. Oh so much.
Sad that in 30k vanilla terminators are worthless now that Tartaros was buffed. Now there's no reason to take it, aside from Cataphractii's 4++. Also the fact that there are no non-crux terminatus models, except for the special IH ones.

>>49588282
Fuck off seriously what is it with all of this Tau hate? Is it just salty Ork players or some shit? You people are pretty fucking pathetic with your hatred for possibly the only one actually trying to do good in the galaxy while also being interesting and fun to play as.

>>49588343
Dude?

>>49588343
Anon, you seem triggered.

Are you really that unhappy that the Tau made a disastrous mistake? Like, seriously man, that's pathetic.

>>49585707
Can the next general image be the meme image of that Dark Angel rubbing his face but flipped so it looks like he will have the party that on?

Also someone should edit this OP image for the faction it's missing. Take out some of the Orks.

>>49588282
>They eventually had to fight for 10 years to get rid of them.
>get rid of them
>implying "the eccentric Ethereal Aun'ghol declared it productive and clean" meant the cult was actually gotten rid of

Oh buddy there's gonna be a real surprise for those Tau.

Why are there no sexy female genestealer cultists

>>49588343
Because just like you, people have opinions.

>>49588377
To prevent you xenofap?

>>49588367
I'm tired of every thread treating the Tau like a meme race when they will probably outlive most if not all of them.

>>49588377
I'm converting a grill-magus based on 11 from Stranger Things

>>49588374
This was my favorite bit of fluff in the whole book.

The """eccentric""" ethereal Aun'lolI'mtotallynotagenestealerguyshonest declared the planet totally clean, no need to worry! And look how especially productive its workers are, marvelous! Please send all your best and brightest students to come learn from them in private study sessions, small groups at a time!

>>49588343
>interesting and fun to play as

Standing on one side of the map while not moving an inch just so you can do shooting phase after shooting phase while your dozens of marker lights make it so your opponent has to take every shot that comes his way is not "interesting and fun gameplay." It's cheese.

>B-b-b-b-but thuy uhr week ta combbat!
Not when they can just avoid it with their high fucking mobility and durability.

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>>49588449
>Not the RAD CULT.
Lame, dude.

>>49588449

where are the dangles?

>>49588468
If I could actually draw, even marginally, I'd have done that.

>>49588472

I assumed the white Termie was a Deathwing DA

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>>49588468

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>>49588176
No but you would also have to be dead.

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>>49588449
>>49585707

>both your armies are forgotten in ops image

>>49588343
Tau hate will die down when it's fun to play against them that doesn't involve you playing one of only 4 factions capable of the high-octane cheese-to-cheese combat that tau can bring to the table.

>>49588510
I don't think Jokaero are a big enough faction to be represented.

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>>49588194
This is what I usually run. It's what I have with a few models by buddy has when he tried to start Tau. I want to buy a Start Collecting so I have a few more Crisis Suits and possibly do a Farsight list.

Having problems viewing some of the .epub files in the database. The layout and text size on them are all messed up when I try to open them, not sure if there is some weird DRM on them or what. Specifically Traitors Hate and Kill Team are being bastards. Am I doing something wrong?

>>49588528
>when it's fun to play against
Oh fuck off with this shit, they are not even top tier so what is the point of this non-argument?

>>49588530
>I don't think Jokaero are a big enough faction to be represented.
but what about the rest of the inquisition?

>>49588510
Legion and Skittles? Inq? Rogue Trader?

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Realised I missed a part of the gun.

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>>49588562
scions and inquisition

>>49588582
You're not very good at this Warhammer thing, are you?

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>Get paid
>Can't wait to buy me some Genestealer Cult stuff and those cool looking dice!

Oh, oh fucking good.

>>49588602
You should have preordered, matey.

>>49588602
You're not going to find any GSC stuff in stored either. The pre-orders were WAY larger than we though they'd be. Like, most places only got about half of the amount of pre-order stuff they need.

Also, check the NZ site for stuff.

>>49588602
>symbol on the one

Did it really even matter?

>>49588620
How many did the store get vs pre-orders? Estimate number?

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>>49588598
yeah

>>49588552
>they are not even top tier
it's almost like you don't need to be a top tier tournament list to be shitty for casual players to play against

>>49588552
It's a very valid argument, more so when you say that tau are somehow not top-tier. When you have such clear options in a game that are just straight up better than others, why bother taking the sub-optimal choice, especially in a competitive game? That's what tau are right now, a very competitive codex in the current edition of 40k that favors formations and MC's and tau have both of those that stomp the competition into the ground. For people who play some of the weaker codices, there is just no reason to play their army if the local meta favors tau, so now you've got an army you paid for in both time (if you painted them) and money that currently happens to be worthless. That's just not something anyone wants to deal with, so yes having tau be fun to play against is vital if you want your local gameshop to still have a 40k scene that isn't just broken bullshit.

>>49588633
Like, I don't have an exact number, but percentage wise, approx. 50-60% of stuff. They sold like crazy, man.

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>>49588282
>>49588374
>>49588433

CULTURALLY

ENRICHED

I have a bunch of unbuilt 40k stuff I havent touched in years.

SMs and Guard and a built ork army.


I still kinda wanna get restarted in 40k with something fresh and basic I can build off of.

Which of the start collecting boxes is an okay force?

I thought about doing eldar before it was announced but 5 models and all vehicles kinda spooks me. I still wanna build something new before I get back into fucking with my older OOP stuff.

>>49588633

My buddy owns a FLGS in London.

He only received 40% of the stuff he ordered...

He's going to have a lot of upset people coming in to collect their preorders today...

>>49588662
>>49588699

Did GW really not expect the surge in sales?

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>>49588602

Sorry Bro, they're pretty sweet.

I hope you can find some, eBay?

>>49588728

Ludicrous, everyone saw this coming.

Guys in their 30s and 40s have been waiting for this for like 25 fucking years... and those people have serious income to splash

>>49588728
i feel like sometimes gw limits their sales too much. maybe they're afraid of making too much and having it sit in their warehouses for years?

>>49586804
>Own failures or terrible choices.

Right.
Because Oedipus knew what he was getting into.

>>49588728
GW is a small company, I dont think they can risk making a ton of something and being left with unsold stock that might not return the investment when they need it, I dont think its that they didnt see it coming but rather they were being conservative with their first production runs.

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>Tfw sweeping both a Necron and Space Marine army with my Scion+Inquisition army.
That said 3-Way battles are cancer and I wish my friends would stop doing them.

What changes should be made with Tau to make them fun? Is the issue more of how the game itself is abusable or just the very existence of controversial units like Riptides and Stormsurges?

>>49588844
You don't have to know what you're doing to be doomed by your own failures. The point of 'tragedy' isn't that something is sad, but that it is unavoidable due to some character trait or flaw that leads them inexorably to their own demise. It doesn't even have to be a negative trait, per se, but their fate is cemented by their own faults.

>>49588857
the real way to go is 2v2

>>49588859
Just make everything larger than a Stealth Suit a Walker. There, somewhat more balanced.

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>Ordered 2 of each hybrid box, the codex, 2 sets of dice and the paining guide, along with 2 sets of the models from overkill
>Going to go in tomorrow for an iconward and 3 goliaths

help me paint all this shit

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>>49588884
>mfw painting yourself

>>49588881
I feel like that should be the same across other codexes with units like Centurions then for the same purpose.

>>49588859
in a casual setting?

severely limit the amount of fatsuits and formations you take
give opponents some way to save against markerlights (even just allowing coversaves against them)

That's about it. You can put similar self-imposed restrictions on other top-tier armies and still have an enjoyable time against other non-meta lists.

>>49588575
Needs more veiny baldness.

>>49588896
Centurions are dumb and I pretend that they don't exist.

Really, the only monstrous creatures should be Daemons, CSM, Tyranids, and AdMech robots.

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>>49588909
it's an inferior version of this

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>>49588880
We did that once. It was terrible on my end, despite me winning.
>2v2
>Dark Eldar (Me) and Eldar vs Space Marines and Tau.
>My partner cannot remember the rules worth a damn, despite playing longer than I have (He constantly looked over at me and then everyone else when resolving to hit and to wound rolls and we had to constantly ask him his own units values and whatnot.)
>He spent the whole game doing fuck all while I blew shit up land raiders, battlesuits, and chapter masters with Blasterborn Raiders and Venoms.
>He kills a couple of Pathfinders with Wraithguard before getting them blown the fuck out by Fire Warriors.
>I manage to charge through to the Space Marine backline with some Kabalite Warriors and poison his Forgeworld artillery piece's crew to death and then wreck the rest of the Tau.
>He has the gall to try and say he carried all game despite leaving his only tank in the middle of the map all game to do nothing.
>Mfw

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>>49588857
I fucking love 3 way battles.

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>>49588393
>designed to blend in with the humans.
You know what does best at that?
Sexy xeno hookers.

>>49588950
So, /tg/, would you bang an alien chick, knowing you're going to get some kind of mind contol STD from it?

And I know this isn't actual fluff, but it's a hypothetical, roll with it.

>>49588926
Why is R&H in the pic at all? It ain't even kosher GW.

>>49588979
Games Workshop and Forgeworld are the same company.

>>49588974
Face it man, you're already in the whorehouse, and you ain't getting out of there without some good ol' imperial justice.
You can either give it to the chick, or take it from the bouncer.

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>>49588974
>triple handjob
>clawjob
>tail

dammit anon, i was trying to do some late night wiki reading not opening up a tab for /d/

>>49588974
>>49588950
hybrids themselves would not be very attractive

that said, a lady who's been kissed by a genestealer will be completely human looking and desperately looking to get impregnated by desperate losers

Is GSC dex in the OP yet?

>>49588857
can i get you tempestus inq list?

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Pic related missing from the op with all the epub ???

wat do ?

I need that pic of 200%RADICAL genestealer

>>49589087
Nvm, found it on vk.com

>>49585707
Awesome! Thanks.

Rate my Tau list? 1500 pts, completely new to 40k but building tau because a friend gave me some unpainted models (mostly Firewarriors)

HQ
1x Cadre fireblade (84pts): 2 gun drone
1x Ethereal (79pts) hover drone, 2x marker drone

Elite
1x Riptide shas'vre (273pts) 2x missile drone, HBC, TL Smart Missile, Drone controller and Stim
3x Crisis(219pts) 1xshas'vre, 1x Gun drone, 3x shield drone, TL plasma, 1x MSSS, Flamer and plasma, Airburst frag and missile + Early warning
1x Ghostkeel(170pts) Shas'vre, Fusion collider and TL flamer, Relay and stim, 2x stealth drone

Troops
2x5 Fire Warriors(213pts) 2x gun drone,1x marker drone, 2 shas'ui, 5x carbine, 5x rifle, 1x smart missile turret

10x Fire Warriors(90pts) pulse rifles

Fast Attack
5x pathfinder (127pts)- 1x gun drone,1x marker drone, 1x shas'ui, 1x recon drone, 5x carbines, EMP grenades

5x pathfinder(127pts)- 1x marker drone, 1x grav drone, shas'ui,2x ion rifle, 1x rail rifle, 2 carbine

Heavy Support
1x Broadside(115pts) 2x shield drone, TL Rail rifle, seeker missile, Advanced targeting, TL plasma

Total: 1497 pts

>>49588926

That was never at any point good.

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>>49588943
But 3-ways ALWAYS devolve into the seemingly strongest player getting fucked by the other two armies. I don't think I've ever played one that hasn't devolved into "That guy has X unit/character/vehicle? Yeah, let's gang up on him."

>>49588950
yes, wouldn't even have to think about it.

>>49589079
Yes

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Now with 200% more Radness and Baldy Veininess

>>49589245
yeah no i mean you should totally let the tau alone while you assault the tyranid player.........

>>49589245
And how is this worse than 1v1 "Strongest codex "wins?

>>49588974
Seeing as they'll be oozing enhanced pheromones I don't think there's much in way of choice.

>>49589324
Unless you're playing Gladius versus Orks or Eldar versus CSM or something similar, there's a far greater disparity with double the points.

So, what's your general opinion on Shadow Captain Korvydae? I'm trying to weigh up what I want to use as my Raven Guard successor chapter's warlord, and i'm considering using a counts-as kitbash for him. Is he worth it?

On paper he seems like a pretty mediocre beatstick, but making assault marines troops is pretty worth. What do you think? Has anyone used him?

should I do it /tg/? Should I buy a second army? Or wait until my first is fully painted?

I'd start of course with just a Start Collecting! box and some bases, and then move onto another SC box, and a few other kits later.

>>49586526
I mean I figured it was all part of the OG Rubric Spell having the suit/dust kept together in a certain way.

>something something warp something something talisman magic something something seals magical and not must be maintained

>>49589449
I've used him before and he was pretty effective. I stuck him with Vanguard Veterans and the unit did pretty good. The Assault Troops is really nice to have.

>>49588019
I think thats the point of the Farsight Enclave, it gives GW a tool to expand upon the nefarious shit of the Ethereals when the time is right.

>>49589461
As a man with a larger grey horde than Florida, finish before starting
new.

>>49589461

From bitter experience I would say paint what you have and use the one you want to buy as incentive, as soon as you finish buy the shit out of it.

Don't be a hobby hoarder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bejo37a1k0k

>>49589259
Good gusta anon.

>>49585707
>>49589259

Am curious about what is the far left Terminutr.
Placeholder for custodes?

>>49589510
Deffwing

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>>49589510
The white one?

>>49589476
>>49589482
yeah that is probably wise

Back in 2007 or so I bought about 50 khorne berserkers and another 20-30 CSM on top of that. Although some were second hand and painted to tabletop, most of the berserkers were NIB at the time... fell out of the hobby a few years and of course when I got back into it berserkers didn't really captivate me like they did then.

Still have about 20 of them unpainted from all those years ago.

I should probably ebay most of my collection and keep just the bits and anything that relates my current or planned armies.

>>49589161
Anybody?

>>49589161
>>49589546
none of your troops are meched up and they are small squads on top of that. Unless you have a specific plan in mind for MSU (multiple small units) you should have fewer larger squads

you have two gundams in a 1500 point game

you are using CAD which is fine, but tau have some of the sweetest and most powerful sets of formations available to them

tau/10

>>49588547
I like the variety and limit of 1 riptide right off the bat, those are more manageable when there's only 1, kind of like a Knight. Automatic brownie points for running with firewarriors; pathfinders for markerlights also makes this less obnoxious though you could probably do without the EMP grenades since the 1 nade per round of combat nerf makes giving the whole squad them a waste of points, maybe drop the broadsides for more hammerheads since their group bonus makes them actually better at aiming that str 10 railgun of theirs, the crisis team seems a little scatter-brained as their weapons look all over the place, maybe stick with just 2x plasma or fusion for mass low-ap shots. I've actually never seen anyone use the Stealth Cadre formation since the farsight bomb 2.0 basically dominates my area. TLDR I like it, it looks like it could give your opponent wiggle room to operate and counter you without it being a definitive win for either player.

>>49586751

playing Apocalypse in my local GW today.

>>49589576
I specifically only chose to run 1 riptide because I've heard nothing but complaints regarding more than 1 in smaller games, are ghost keels really so bad?

The small infantry squads are there to make better use of markerlights, since none of them are networked.

That was my thought process in making this army, I'm open to suggestions if I'm wrong

I don't have the codex yet and 40k formations are a bit confusing to me. The only one I know for tau is farsight bomb and I don't want to do that.

>>49585707
I'm trying to make a close combat-oriented Deathwatch kill team and need a unifying theme to bring together the Black Templars, Carcharadons, and Flesh Tearers. I was thinking that, owing to the Carcharadons' "comefrom out of nowhere, RIP AND TEAR" nature" I could do an Armageddon theme, like a sudden incursion during the Second War. My main army is Steel Legion/Templars anyway so I'd love to create more Armageddon-themed models. Thoughts? Any chapters I should include?
>inb4 space puppies

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>>49589259
>>49589510

R8 my efforts anons?
P for effort?

>>49589610
ghost keels are not crazy unless you run them in the formation, but too many gundams of any variety will leave a bad taste in people's mouths. Small units aren't inherently wrong, but unless you are careful they can die really easily to pretty much anything.

If you are new to the hobby, I recommend starting with a smaller army than 1500 points. This is both to work your way up learning the rules and so you don't get overwhelmed trying to paint it all at once (If you are new to painting, or just want a refresher, look up "Duncan Rhodes" on youtube... the guy does excellent videos)

Formations are sort of an alternative to the detachments. You take certain models in combination and they get special rules.

A Battle Forged army consists entirely of formations and detachments. The combined arms detachment is just one choice of detachments - there are many more and each army usually has one or two that are unique to their faction.

Tau have a lot of different formations and detachments available, and while there is nothing wrong with the CAD, don't feel like it is your only option.

Overall welcome to the hobby. Tau gets a lot of hate but you don't have to be that kind of tau player that brings all crisis suits and gundams.

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>>49589661
Damnit I forgot to use the veinybald edition.

Codex Genestealer Cults epub out yet?

>>49589692
Should be an easy copy+paste job, lad.

Any advice on an Assassin + Tempestus Scions list. Not too familiar with TS. What's shit and not?

This is for 1.5k points. At 2k points gonna shove an Imperial Knight in there. Prolly a Warden.

>>49589709
I ain't going back to paint. I did my time man.

10 Neophytes with shotguns+Demolition Charges Cache.

What else should I give my assaulting suicide squad?

>>49589726
In a Goliath, obviously.

>>49589711
1. Not deathwatch instead?
2. You sure?
3. Check out the Hellrain Brigade formation.

>>49589726
if its a suicide squad nothing. keep them cheap and slend the points elsewhere.

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>>49589722
Done, lad.

>>49589664
Hm alright, my friend had told me 1500 pts was a standard sized game so I thought I should shoot for that. Is 1k points better? I was also considering building necrons (army was about the same price) but I'm a little bummed that there isn't much you can do with painting them. If I cut the tau list to 1k points I should probably remove the mechs altogether except the crisis suits right? Ill probably add a drop ship and some piranhas then.

Thanks for being so helpful, do you mind if I post my revised list(s)?

>>49589744
now we just need knights

>>49589757
1500 is the stabdard but smaller games are playes often.

the thing as a beginner its better too start small. the game is easier too learn in small games and starting small will give you a feel for how the army plays and you'll have a better idea what army you want to end up running (or if you don't like the army). So you don't end up possibly investing a bunch of money in an army you might look.

also on the hobby side facing a big pile of grey plastic too be assembled and painted can be daunting and suck the fun out of it.
You'll likely find things more enjoyable and manageable if you only get a couple of kits at a time and get them finished before getting more.

>>49589744
Can we maybe use the new DE style?

>>49589757
1k or even 1500 can be fine, but while working towards it make sure to play some kill teams and small games along the way (kill team is just 200 points with very flexible list rules).

Necrons are only as boring as you want them to be, but if they don't excite you don't go for them. You will be spending a huge amount to time with your army so you should play what you like.

>>49589757
1000k pts is a pretty good number to shoot for as games at that level end fairly quickly if time is not on your side or you just want to get a lot of games in a day in while also giving you some space to fill your list with a few nice toys along side your basic 1 HQ 2 TROOPS requirement the standard CAD has. For even faster games that help you learn the absolute basics of how to play 40k and your army, go for 500pts, it's pretty much just the basics that help you learn through repetition. Just remember the most important rule here is to not be a dick about anything, just be friendly and personable and you'll have plenty of folks willing to play with you.

>>49589773
Do we, though?

>>49589785
They're just spiky Eldar, how would you do it different?

>>49587461
Looks like a perfectly good ork vehicle to me

>>49588620
>>49588633

tfw going to store today as I know the staff pretty well and they informed me they have exactly 2 sets of the dice in stock. So early 10AM to snag them.

>>49589785
You sure can.

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>>49588783
it is not unfounded

>>49589794
Oh no I like necrons aesthetics and lore (same with the tau although more for aesthetics) what I meant was there isn't much by way of paint scheme for necrons, at least not that I've seen. I liked the idea of doing a hunter green tau force with forest bases, but I have no idea how to paint necrons anything other than the box (even if that looks cool)

>>49589798
>>49589784
I've played kill team games with the firewarriors I have (unpainted, I know I know, I've only had them about a week). I get the basic flow of a game and I can get through a turn smoothly if there aren't any special rules I haven't learned. I haven't won much though, my friends space wolves are too damn fast and have way too good of a save for the warriors to do much.

Ill head back to the drawing board and see what I can put together. I've been burning to play 40k for a few months so I set some money aside for an army, but I do like the idea of starting with small forces to determine who I like

>>49589256
No

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How come I don't hear more about the Revenant Titan? In a world of knights (all types), this little beastie puts out 4 pie plates of S:D up to 60" and can move away 36" from anything that might threaten it. Durability? It has a 3++ save because fuck you, or a 4++ when you gotta go fast. Assuming something got in range of you somehow.

As the only dark eldar LoW, it's time for my boyz to step into the light. It only cost 90 pts to CAD this 900 pt model in. That's a lot of room for a real Deldar force or at least enough to say you won with deldar.

>>49589959
>12/12/10
thats flyer-tier defenses. Literally paper

>>49589999
Remind me what fliers get a 3++ save without the drawbacks of jinking.

>>49589959
>horribly expensive
>av12
>no melee D

its a mystery

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>>49590016
As a deldar player, I've never seen av12 or S:D before. I'm not seeing the problem yet.

>>49589846
>I haven't won much though
that comes with being a noob.

think of each loss as a learning moment, try to figure out why you lost and how you can play differently or add to your list to counteract that.
get some experience in and you'll start winning often.

as for necrons painting them is only limited by your imagination. You can add extra colours and decoartions, leave the silver for inside joints. Something that can be on crons nice is to go for pastel colours for a hi-tech ceramics look.

>>49590035
this is what comes of playing the race with objectively the worst fluff.

Returning to 40k thanks to cultists, trying my hand at a list, thoughts? Theres no vehicles but I've always preferred footslogging lists.
Haven't played in a long time so really have no idea on list building. Don't really care if its super competitive as long as it would be able to hold its own again most armies
1850pts

Cult Insurrection
Brood Cycle
1 x Acolyte Ironward
3 x 5 Acolyte hybrids, rock saw, rock cutter, cult icon
2 x 10 Neophyte Hybrids, 2 x webbers in each, one unit with flakk missile launcher, other with seismic cannon & mining laser
1 x 5 Hybrid Metamorphs, all with claws & flamers, leader w/ bonesword, cult icon
1 x 10 Purestrain genestealers

The First Curse
1 x 20 Purestrain Genestealers, scything talons
1 x Patriarch, LVL 2, 2 x familiars

Subterranean Uprising
1 Primus, icon of cult ascendant
1 x 10 Hybrid Metamorphs, hand flamers, talons, cult icon, leader w/ bonesword
2 x 5 Acolyte hybrids, rock saw, rock cutter, cult icon, leader

1 Magus, LVL 2


Sorry if that was hard to read

>>49589999
>>49590015
It's better than a 3++ as it's not an invulnerable save, so it can negate things that ignore invulnerable saves, like rolling a 6 on the Destroyer weapons chart

>>49590126
webbers are kinda bunk,and you might want to switch out some of the claws for whips: hitting at I7 with rending can really help, especially vs MEQ

if you can find the points, the crouchling is great on a magus. Talking of which, how are you taking the magus?, he isnt part of any of the formations?

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Been tinkering around with the Wulfen. Since my wulfen pack leader moonlights as a Blood Bowl player his weapon arm is magnetized and I've removed his power pack (which is retarded on Wulfens since they have no power armor anyway.) To show he still has an Auto Frag Launcher I've stuck it on his frost claw. Does it look less retarded than when it's on a power pack or is even worse?

And how does my old school wulfen look? I tried making a wulfen that's still not there yet by simply sticking his head and arms on a space marine torso and legs. I can't tell if it's a good idea or not.

>>49590143
Would grenade launchers be better?
Magus isn't in any of those formations, was probably just going to throw him in one of the neophyte groups

why is space marine armor so fucking thick around the calves and shoulders, but so thin near the torso?

>>49589794
>>49589798
>>49589784
>>49590065
How's this list? It's substantially cheaper than the 1500 pt, although I know gundamns are vital for tau success (plus they look cool). I'm guessing my biggest enemy is going to be vehicles, so I was thinking of swapping the crisis' weapons but I'm not sure for what.

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>>49590125
>objectively the worst fluff
What does that have to do with our contrived (and probably stolen) Lords of War?

Besides, deldar are one of the only armies in the game to still have fun, not-too-serious fluff to them. The other being orks.

Should i base my GSC in a volcanic/lava mining world or just a generic muddy/rocky mine?

>>49590154
If he is not in the formations, you cant just take him. go read the rule book on how to make an army.

Launchers are fun, i'd take them

>>49590016
>Superheavies needing melee D
I bet you've never really played with superheavies other than the bum-rush knights that everyone and their mom has nowadays, let alone an actual Apocalypse game ?

Titans sparring almost never happens in Apoc, because the knights get blown up before they cross the board, and the big guys are usually tailored to be ranged weapons platform and stay in the back. On top of that, this specific titan has a crazy mobility, you'll never catch him in melee.
As for small chaff trying to tie it in melee, that's why you have cheap anti-assault meatshields around your big guy, and even if that fails, that's why the Stomp rule exists (which incidentally can become S:D, so your statement is incorrect)
Melee D is the least thing the revenant needs when it's just so good at being a 4x ranged D pie plates delivery for the whole game.

>>49590180
>>>49590154 (You)
It lists 'Lords of the cult" in cult insurrection detachment, where you can pick 1 patriarch, magus, primus or acolyte iconward as a command choice. I can do this right? It's just not listed under formations

>>49590190
yes. he's a "formation" of just the magus.

>>49590190
oooh, right, my apologies, i messed that, my bad.

Anyone think just patrol is worth getting or I just get more scouts if I have a stiff one for shotgun scouts?

>>49589999
>>49590015
>>49590136
Oh and I forgot, another reason it's better than a 3++ is that, since it's not a save, should you fail that roll, you can then stack it with an extra cover save (yay buildings!)

>>49590161
>why is space marine armor so fucking thick around the calves and shoulders
Because a space marine without an arm or foot is pretty inefficient compared to one who gets hit by something in a fleshier place which can then heal easily because genecrafted bullshit.

>but so thin near the torso?
Black Carapace
or at least that's what I'd wager being the one reason that makes sense.

>>49590317
Black carapace is only good against small arms and it encompasses their entire body (everywhere that there's skin, at least).

Is there a torrent for the genestealer codex yet?

>>49590330
>encompasses their entire body
I think you mean "torso has the actual material but it runs neural pathways throughout the body".

>>49590337
all we have
http://imgur.com/a/tncVh

Whats the most fun match you've ever played?

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>>49590353
No. I mean, unless something's changed, the plug nodes are said to be cut into the black carapace, and the nodes go down their arms and legs. Meaning, therefore, it does expand down their arms and legs.

>>49590371

Guard versus grey knight and dark angels
The other players decided not to go after y three death strikes that fired turn 2, smoking all his armor, bikes, and half the infantry. Followed by draigo eating 84 flashlights in the face on overwatch

>>49585897
>Minotaur
>in a kill team
I'd rather have an alpha legionaire who openly displayed his colours and symbol. At least they are just manipulative, unlike to crazy assholes to minotaurs.

>>49590371
I have 2 favorites. One versus tyranids where I was losing turn 5, then came back and won it turn 6. I like it because it was a close as hell game and I got revenge after he beat me the game before. Then a game vs dark angels where I psychic shrieked belial, and he failed all 3 of his 3 up invulnerable saves. The moment was priceless.

>>49590190
>>49590201
Actually no. They aren't formations, just unit entries.

Point being, you can't take them standalone without the grand detatchment.

>>49588343
Salamanders called, they want to check your privilege.

>>49590769
You can take them in a cad tho

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>tfw you bought the last box of Neophyte Hybrids in the entire country
>tfw you check GW's webpage and find the Deliverance Broodsurge
Shoulda waited, I guess. Oh well, the more the merrier. I'm using all this for Chaos Cultist stuff anyhow.

>>49588857
What is this from?

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>>49590929
>That pic

>>49590945
Jin Roh

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>>49590946
Let Slaanesh guide you.
http://pawgcommander.tumblr.com/post/148551519845/sabrina-monique-and-her-glorious-hips-check-out
http://thegreatestpie.tumblr.com/post/147653656333/sabrina-monique-find-her-on-instagram

>>49590929
What the fuck is wrong with that picture

>>49590769
going by his list he has taken the grand detatchment.

>>49589959
Most people don't want to use them or fight against them, because they're immensely powerful and dominate any game that isn't apocalypse-scale. I've seen a revenant with pulsars single-handedly wipe out most of a Knight army.

>>49591059
>knight army
Sounds like he had it coming, famalam.

I bet 'chu my blood thirster could wreck this thing.

I think I might start building a Dark Wolves chaos army but I have some questions.
Where could I find space wolves heads or other bits that look properly Vikingish to stick onto my CSM models?
How would I make a mainly melee focused chaos army viable against something like Tau or IG?
And lastly would you play with someone who proxies fleshhounds and with chaosified fenrisian wolf models?

>>49590973
Nice thanks.

>mfw I'm a Slaaneshi player

>>49586421
whats the tyrant guard for? guarding the neuro?
with this list I would go termies

>my list
Broodlord-carapace, FnP, scytal, poison 90

2xgenestealers-scytal, carapace 40
5xgenestealers 70
zoanthrope 50
tyrant guard 50

total 300
I'm 5 games in right now and not including the base and group upgrades
I also have 2 units of horms in reserves

all genestealers/broodlord have lightning assault, the broodlord and the 5 base stealers have counter attack

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Continue?

>>49591264
http://imgur.com/a/tncVh
not much point, unless you want to fill in the gaps

>>49591223
>>49591233
>missing out points cost
steller work

>>49590929
>A woman does not have to be modest to be respected

Knowing how to flip a picture helps too.

Bread

>>49591390
>>49591390
>>49591390

>>49589002
Then where is the rest of FW armies?
After all, we included every flavor of space marines

>>49591161
1. Online Bitz sellers or use Warriors of Chaos models
2. Probably not but don't play CSM for viability, play them for fun
3. Sure