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Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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Alan Merret Is Our Boy Edition
Spider Chasity Belts Sub-Edition
Laurie isn't our boy. He never will be until he learns just how much the sexual purity of spiders affects the greater universe.
> R E A D . T H I S . B E F O R E . P O S T I N G

HHG FAQ
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8

Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

30k TACTICA
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics#Horus_Heresy

Red Books Links: https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.zippyshare.com%2Fv%2Fs15Jqk1t%2Ffile.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23!Jx1UGCTI!vMJN89z7p8tiEC7YOAj477g6RxDtJ7culVLF3q3godg

HH Book 6 - Retribution PDF:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8aqx9j3a8erqv8d/The_Horus_Heresy_Book_6_-_Retribution.pdf or
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkat.cr%2Fthe-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-pdf-t12199249.html

Other official downloads: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads#horusheresy
HH Rules:
Crusade Army List:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lprm5vd99yafa3/
Mechanicum Taghmata Army List:
https://mega.nz/#!LFwTjQ7B!mF0eVOY8P1MPT0a-QSXypXo_ZfskhYynD41PrkaTbD8
30k/40k Rules:
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!EVh0GZZS
30k/40k Rules and more (torrents):
https://mega.nz/#F!0RlxDZQC!qAu9BaubWa3KeihJRmOcsg
Crusade Imperialis epub:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/meqp1hn5sa3d6gt/The_Horus_Heresy_%E2%80%93_Crusade_Imperialis_-_Army_Lists.epub

Strawpoll links:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
www.strawpoll.me/10663447
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>>49552400

I hate how there's only two different thread topic pictures, and they're used over and over and over and over and over again.

We need more variety.
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>>49552474
Sorry, Anon. Hopefully we will get an Inferno themed pic when it comes out.
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>>49552400
Been looking for a system to build one of the missing primarchs. This guy's system is probably the most comprehensive I've seen, but I haven't been playing for that long. Any bored oldfags want to tell me if it's worth using or not (and why)?

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Josman#Build_Your_Own_Primarch
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>>49552474
I remember when we actually used the HH pic.
>>49552400
What is this spider love you say?
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>>49552474
Well we don't want to trigger that guys autism when we posted the /IWG image

Also if you want change, BE THE CHANGE
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>>49552517
I thought you were Josman, back when someone said he was nagging Evilexecutive with his edits.
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Archive anon here
Post your models in all the glory
Also anyone got that sick space wolf B@C termie conversion
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>>49552563
Looking through his edit history, it looks like they got into a very short edit war and talked it out on the discussion page, so that was likely a joke.
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>>49552517
Looks interesting.
>>49552520
>Spider love
Something a scorpion wouldn't understand so sayeth the High Priest of Spiidesh.
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>>49552573
not!RGbro repost old apo to go with the new one !
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>>49552618
Too thick red for my tastes.
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I posted this a couple of days ago, just about to go to bed, hoping to get some feedback when I wake up. This will be the last time I shit up the thread.

1995 points, Imperial Fists

HQ (165)
Praetor – Terminator armour, Paragon Blade, Teleportation Transponder (165)

Troops (530)
20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

Elites (540)
2 x Apothecarion Detachment. Artificer armour x2. (110)

10x Cataphractii Terminator with Transponder (430)
>5x Power Fists
>2x Power Fists and Plasma Blaster
>2x Chain Fist
>1x Sarge with Power fist.

Heavy Support (760)
Sicaran Battle Tank, AC. Lascannons (225)
Sicaran Battle Tank, AC. Lascannons (225)
Artillery Tank Squadron – 2x Medusa (310)
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>>49552517
That's actually a really good system for the most part. A lot of people who make these build a bear for 40(30)K end up making all their upgrades too cheap, so you end up with a combat monster that can beat abaddon for less than 200 points. This system actually looks like it even takes into account some of the balance issues that GW and Forgeworld themselves ignored (how pricey it should be to make a primarch a psyker, that kind of thing). I'm impressed.

I might say he overrated the AP values on weapons a little bit. 40 points to give a weapon AP2 seems high, even if you consider how buff a primarch is in combat.
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>>49552573
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>>49552720
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>>49552618
Dunno why but of all the vials, the blue highlights just stand out and make it look like paint not liquid
Does it look different IRL, but apart from that it's great
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>>49552515

Will someone finally color those armours correctly for fucks sake
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>>49552697
30% of your army in reserve, no reserve manipulation :/
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>>49552557

Fine. I'm the change.
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>>49552759
be the change like >>49552807 was
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>>49552790
>>49552697
yeah try and find points for a damocles, perhaps swap praetor for a centurion, drop tactical size or drop the armoured ceramite
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Just impulse bought the Stormlord for my upcoming Red Hands army. $120 and free two day shipping was just too tempting. Emperor save me.
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>>49552807
Just a few(read: 70 more books to go) more books. Or am I think of BL here?
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>>49552848

/FoWg/ have a whole folder of banner headings. We should do the same.
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>>49552474
memes are repetitive. Stick a pepe in there if you like.
>>49552515
I have it already... for the last few month now... waiting for the day it actually drops
>>49552557
I liked lemon warrior general, i was even tempted to make a new general image with it.
>>49552759
see >>49552807
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>>49552879
> has the money to invest in resin crack
>dosen't have the time to invest in painting skills
cmon KA, we all want you to improve
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>>49552601
Scorpion do tango, while spidergirls may eat their fuckboys. It's a different love.
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>>49552960
>implying I'm not archiveAnon and also made a folder of those
WEW LAD
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>>49552964

>Tactical Assault Moon

Fuck me I love it.
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>>49552964
are you the guy that makes these banners and chibi marines, first off THANK YOU VERY MUCH, second off, yes could you please improve the /IWG
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hey /HHG/ my first 5 blood angel tacs ready for inspection!
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>>49553004
Reds looks good, metal could use a wash and black hightlights.
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>>49553004
BTW, yes... thicc, i realise
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>>49553004
is this finished?
Do inferno pistols change design like their larger variants do?
>nipple armour
>butt knees
i'm pretty sure but knees are artificer mk 8+ but eh I'd still game.
also drill your barrels.
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>>49552964
This one has my vote, the assault moon is fucking rad.
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>>49552965

He spent all his time earning that money. Time is money.
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>>49552964
Anon, I love you no homo.
>>49552969
Not all spiders do that. Some spiders rip their own dicks off to act as a chasity belt to make sure no other spider can shove their dicks in their girls. But some spiders do somersault into their lovers' mouths to ensure they do produce their own offspring. All to keep inter species mating to a minimal. Spider love is strange.
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>>49553054
Butt knees and nipple armour would be a good representation of Artificer shit, I'd say.
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>>49553063
yeah but in the time he spends assembling the storm raven, he could be painting retributors to lv 8
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>>49552965
I don't understand your issue. Am I supposed to just keep stripping and repainting the same army? I wanted to get a headstart on whatever I do with the plastic calth 2.0 box.
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>>49553002
You're gonna get a lot of lemonade and a lot of little tiny imperial fist flags!

Also, this """Ventanus"""" is looking thick
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>>49553096
Is that the new store exclusive resin mini? Looks like it could be decent conversion fodder for my WE praetor.
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>>49553096
Why is the head so small
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>>49553110
Are you the tumblr fag
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>>49553096
it really is the worst model ive seen FW make

it makes the centurions looks well proportioned
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Is it me or is this spider wearing a spider symbol? Maybe one of the missing legions were spider themed.
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>>49553054
the blacks and metal needs a highlight. but i'm not so great at painting because of my fucked up shaky hands
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>>49553110
I think its plastic, those studs on his shoulder are way too thick and his arm too is way too smooth for resin
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>>49553096
Is that supposed to be true scale?
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>>49553141

I wouldn't be surprised if it was GW that sculpted it. Those proportions remind of me of some of the shitty AOS khorne heroes.
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>>49552964
O Bannerbro, do you use a tablet to draw, or are your Paintskillz that good?>>49553075
>Some spiders rip their own dicks off to act as a chasity belt to make sure no other spider can shove their dicks in their girls. But some spiders do somersault into their lovers' mouths to ensure they do produce their own offspring. All to keep inter species mating to a minimal. Spider love is strange.
Spideesh is beyond fucked up
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>>49553096
the image is pretty bad lol
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>>49553260
His will is bizzare it is true, but with great spider power comes, well, you know. Don't make me say it.
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>>49552988
>true death guard
Surely that's too much...
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>>49553096
>Banner is all kinds of bent even though its supposed to be solid
>legs are way too thick for his chest size, like he has giant woman sized hips

You fucked up FW, this and the legion tribune are absolute crap and makes me wonder if an intern designed them.
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>>49553356
banner is bent because the paper the pic is on is bent...
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>>49553355
They're true as in they're as grimy as real death guard would be
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>>49552964

I fullly endorse adding this pic to the header
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>>49552573
I need to finish more models to qualify for a folder
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>>49553546
Where did my goddamned image go?
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>>49553566
I need to get more pictures of this dude too, I've since bored out the chest and made his head fit in a bit better
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>>49553566
>>49553566
Are you different to >>49552739
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>>49553631
I am different to him, yeah. I'll post the few Tacticals I have done when I finish work
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>>49552988
>Alacran
>Real alacran
???
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>>49552988
No folder for potato?

Mm, is what potato deserves, it tells me. Amerislavstralians shall not be noticed by potato, for it is a jealous creature.
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>>49552573
I've posted some stuff over the past year randomly. Most of the IH are competed now and I'm getting ready for AoP
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>>49552964

What's the name of the character in the moon sketch?
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>>49553945

Autek Mor IIRC, famous for dropping a moon on a World Eater recruitment world
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>>49553955

At some point I should redo this with photoshop instead of paint and an online gif combiner
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Post more painted mans guys
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>>49554031
>>49552573
Yo

>>49553139
I suppose so.
>>49553179
Hopefully it's at least a little bit cheaper, then.
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>>49554031
Iz not mine, but 'ere ye go.

If anyone here has a B&C account, can they ask Dantioch for his recipe? My account's too new to have posting privileges.
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>>49553945
moonman
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>>49554031
>>49554059
Anyone know if units with the 'Can take x weapons/gear per x models in the unit' are legal to take in Strike Forces? My gut says no, unfortunately.
Seriously, I need his recipe. It's so good.
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>>49552988
>no curzefag folder
I'm sad now.
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I am Alpharius.
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>>49554379
>someone saved my wojack
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>>49552988
what's...what's in my (KA) folder
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almost done with my ashen claws just 3 more termies and a few layers of pigments here and there:)
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>>49552988

>Nothing for Curzefag
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>>49554391

I am Alpharius.
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>>49554408
>that Caestus
Big...brother...?
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>>49554454

We are all Alpharius.
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>>49554396
You are most welcome, my Midnight Clad brethren.
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>>49554472

We are Alpha Legion, and we are all one.
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Yes little one.
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>>49554468
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What would a 10,000-legionnaire commander be called? A consul?
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inspired by swarmlord over at B&C, this might be the color scheme I go for with my iron hands. simple enough and matches my imperial fists. now I just need to repaint my imperial knights blue so I've got red/blue/yellow on display .
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>>49554553
did you glue it to the base? it was too fucking heavy so I just got mine magnetized with three fuckhuge poles.
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does anyone have any links for any recent HH fiction? I used to use KAT but the uploader seems to have stopped
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>>49554563
Praetor, but titles may vary. The DG had 7 companies, meaning each "Captain" comanded about 13000 marines.
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>>49554601
Nope perfectly balanced for me, aslong as you bump it all the time.
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>tfw I just got a shitload of resin in the mail

The hype is very real. Post your workstations and projects, lads.
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>>49554903
MkII a best!
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>>49554031
The mostly painted army.

Not pictured- spartan, 2 more rhinos, and some laser rapiers

Also not pictured- more stuff I will inevitably buy before the rest of this is painted.

On that note, how do you guys run assault squads? Blob of 20? Shields or bombs for everyone?
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>>49554954

Ferrum Honore Veniat
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>>49555028
Also, sorry for shit lighting, but I don't feel like moving them off their shelf
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>>49555028
10/10 would game with any day
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>>49555028
20 man meltabomb squad
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>>49553096
This almost looks like a 3rd party knockoff. Also the clearly warped standard bugs me alot
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>>49554031
Working on some Imperial Fists and Night Lords
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>>49555468
nice ultramarines anon
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>>49555468
You have sullied the name of our great Legion by running us alongside shitheads like the Imperial Fists. Here are your red gauntlets, you'll wear them from now on.
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>>49555468

We March For Nostramo!
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>>49552573
but which army archive anon? I am working on like 4 at the moment!
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>>49555725
and the termies
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>>49552964
So, do ya have any heresy Marine templates you could share?
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>>49552573
>>49555725
also got Loyalist Night Lords
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>>49552573
>>49555725
and a dark mech Scoria army
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>>49552573
>>49555904
plus I am doing a knight up for the dark mech cause I had one lying around only about 50% finished
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>>49552573
Have some RG muhreens
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I've since added some crackling lava effect to them, but I'm kind of on the fence about it, soooooo
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>>49555921
And some more
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How do Domitar-Ferrum stack up against regular Domitar?
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>>49552573
>>49555725
I also did up a quick 1000 points of Dark Angels but ended up selling them on
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>>49552573
>>49555948
and the rest
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>>49552573
>>49555725
I also did up a small WE force. My next project is going to be a traitor Death Guard army using the sacrificial ROW so everything outflanks.

I usually post up picks of the Friday night games I have with the lads and also any events/tornys I attend. Got a big event coming up mid October, will post pics of all the painted armies that show up!
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>>49556075
Digging the sergeant's crest, nice work.
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>>49556075
Im glad Im not the only one who made all those crests into mohawks, looks sick.
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>tfw no Cora gf
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>>49556759

Please continue
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>>49553096
Why does his head look like that of a monkey ? I mean, more than is usual for ultrafags
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>>49556805
Cora is literal perfection. Cora is love. Cora is life.
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>>49552573
Not an amazing picture, but here's some of the leading members of my Ultramarine force.
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The IInd Legion, The Imperial Rangers, sons of the primarch Peregrine The Wanderer

Securing frontier worlds and subsequent colonial efforts, xenos megafauna extermination, death world ecosystems operations, far galactic recon, marksmanship, rapid response tactics.

Mil-spec green main colour, yellow trim. Numerals and heraldry rendered in white. Heraldry is an eagle's talon grasping three arrows.

I would love to model an army of these faggots using my BaC and some scattered forge world buys. I'd be ditching my plans to run AL, and setting aside an AL upgrade pack, as well as my BaC contemptor which has already been converted into something hydra-centric aesetically.

I haven't thought of an army list yet, but I would feel like I'm already asking a lot by playing a homebrew lost Legion (though I confess I prepared what little fluff I have for them with keeping things consistent with the nature of the setting and tone), I wouldn't want to use another Legion army list to proxy. I feel like I would do Blackshields.

Terrible idea y/n
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>>49556885
Kelly is better.

They're both great, though. Both their fathers are hot.
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>>49556949
back to the 40k thread you go
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>>49556759
>>49556885
People who draw these and chibi primarchs are why this planets deserves exterminatus. Double exterminatus
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>>49556698
Truly, Mohawk-crests are the best.

>>49556759
>>49556885
Cora is a qt.
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>>49555468
Honour and Flayings
>>49556897
We have come for Macragge
>>49552573
Hey, have you got all pics of War-Scythe bro ( >>49553546 >>49553566 ) ?
He posted some more in WIP a while ago.
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>>49557000
Cora is my goddess. Cora is my waifu.

I hope she likes girls.
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>>49553141
>>49553198
>>49553356
>>49555081
Are you all trolling? Its pretty clear that the paper is bent in a U shape warping the proportions of the model.
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>>49553579
Still can't get over that helmet.
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>>49557167
MEAL

NICE AND HOT
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>>49556759
>tfw no art of Petra
Sadness.

She a cute.
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>Vlka Fenryka

How do I even pronounce this
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>>49557437
Ool-ka Fen-Ree-ka?
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>>49557437
"Furfaggot McYiffshitter"
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>>49557481
this is correct
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>>49557481
t. Magnus
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>>49557499
did

nothing

wrong
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>>49557481
You beat me to it.
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>>49557510
That's Ahriman
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>>49557149
She doesn't. She likes long sneaks on the beach, rainy days (rain can only snapfire at her, suffers mishaps on arrival) and Infiltrating into your bed and using her power whip on you Yes (You)

>>49557437
>It's as it spells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNoS2BU6bbQ
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>>49557615
Is that some kind of newfangled Tumblr orientation?
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>>49557637
Probably, but I wouldn't say it's new on /tg/. The straightest girls here are either bi or Guro Curzefag, make of that what you will.
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>>49556949
With that fluff may as well run em as Raven Guard as the LA:RG is probably closest to a ranger-centric modus operandi.

Not going to lie man, the colours sound a little shit but I'm sure there are ways to make it work. Check out Mantis Warrior fluff to find images of citrus marines. Alternatively, instead of using yellow as the secondary colour, use white. Try to differentiate them from Salamanders as best you can.

Just from a technical standpoint, MkIV armour on one of the lost legions rubs me the wrong way. MkIV was introduced after their loss. But you could no doubt fluff your way around that.
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Just received $5000

What should I buy?
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>>49557696
RG Bro why am I falling for your primarch when I already have a primarchfu
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>>49557713
H-how?

What legion do you play?

Warlord Titan.
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>>49557713

Favourite legion/army?
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>>49557713
Stormbird, when it's dropped for general release.

>>49557728
Because Corax is in touch with his emotional side, and you appreciate that.

Talking of Corax, I'm painting his model now and I'm wondering what the best way to go about getting that black-blue feather hue would be. Any ideas?
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>>49557730
>>49557740
I play EC
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>>49557765
>Because Corax is in touch with his emotional side, and you appreciate that.
S-sure, boss.
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Alright, so I've got plans to do 3000 points of two traitor legions and 2 loyalist legions. So far I've got one for each nailed down, those being Word Bearers and Salamanders. I've narrowed down the remaining legions to Thousand Sons, Raven Guard, Blood Angels, and Emperor's Children. RG Bro, are you capable of persuading me to select RG over the gorgeous red with black trim of the Blood Angels?
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>>49557801
Take RG and BA.

Salamanders a shit.
A SHIT.
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>>49557820
No, Curzefag. Salamanders are happening. I'm surprised you're not trying to get me to play Night Lords.
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>>49557836
Your choice of legion is bad and you should feel bad.
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>>49557836
How can you be when he can't even stick to his chosen legion and gets seduced by the first idiot being remotely similiar to its primarch :^)
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>>49557713
invest most of it into something useful. spend like a grand on toys. that is unless you're already rich and can do whatever the hell you want.
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>>49557855
Curzefag, please remain within the bounds of the question. Salamanders and Bird Wearers are a thing already.
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>>49557801
Do Raven Guard for Loyalists, and EC for traitors. That way you cam have an Istvaan V sort of little thing.

Though, if you really wanted go work with the Allies Chart, I'd go with IW so both sides could have Sworn Brothers.
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>>49557865
I CAN FALL FOR TWO PRIMARCHS OKAY
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>>49557865
Good point.
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>>49552474
An anon made a weekend edition pic that was never used featuring legions II and 11.
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>>49557901
This board is bitter enough without adding more bitters to it, anon. I had considered them before I even started my Word Bearers.
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>>49557902
Well I guess it is fitting for a Night Lords fan to be unloyal
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>>49557901
Also, adding on to this, you could base all of them the same-ish, allowing you to save a bit of money.

There are so many conflicting pics of Istvaan V though. This and the official pics of the Istvaan V diorama are a dark muddy color, while the descriptions have it set as black sands.

Eh, I like how pic related looks.

>>49557921
Eh, if you like them, go with them. I only suggested it because that way if you wanted to field both armies, or one as an allied detachment to either, you'd have Sworn Brothers on each side, which pleases my autism.
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>>49557942
>>49557865
In this thread, Curzefag gets batted around a bit.
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>>49557801
Well, why are you keen on BA? And while we're at it, why Salamanders? They're probably the least-seen legion around here, keen to hear what about them floats your goat.

RG are dope because they're operator as fuck and actually have some semblance of rational tactics in a batshit crazy setting. Instead of marching toward the enemy in azure blue or golden yellow armour, presenting themselves as prime targets despite being the crack spec-ops forces they are, RG actually use their noggins to Get Shit Done.

If you're going to be playing ZM games then RG inherently have a huge advantage, being able to see in the dark, infiltrate, and use the Mor Deythan's rending special rule to best effect.

The downside to RG is they visually appear pretty underwhelming compared to a really well-done colourful Legion like IF, WE, etc, and their Decapitation Strike RoW is a real glass hammer.

Thematic though.
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>>49557942
If anything I'm double loyal for being loyal to two different primarchs. =P
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>>49557951
But the IW aren't sworn brothers with either of my current legions. Just World Eaters and Mechanicum. RG and Salamanders are Sworn Brothers. Word Bearers have Sons of Horus and Imperial Army. Which is odd, considering they seemed to be on great terms with the Thousand Sons in the books.
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>>49557801
>>49557901
>>49557951
Oh wait, I misread Word Bearers for World Eaters! Whoops!

Who are their Sworn Brethren again?
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Iron Hands confirmed to have tard strength post-Istvaan.
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>>49557972
Why not do two legions and two other armies? one Mechanicum and one Militia/Auxilia.
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>>49557978
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>>49557960
With the BA it's mostly a love of their colours, conversion kits, and iconography. Their lore is somewhat interesting as well, but it's a minor reason at best.
Salamanders again would be colour, their models are incredible, and I've never experienced a flamer heavy army. I really like their lore, being the biggest bros of all the legions. And now I've got the added benefit of pissing off Curzefag. Salamanders also give me an excuse to go for an all Mk III army instead of my usual Mk IV. Not a huge fan of other armour marks.
Raven Guard appeal to me because, as yous aid, they're operator as fuck and I've never painted a black army before.
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>>49557995
My Word Bearers already have cults. Sacrificial Offering for the fortification and mixing it up. I could post my lists if you like. As for Mech, I'm not a huge fan. Never caught much lore and, while their models are largely great, the units I like the most seem to be underwhelming from what I've read here.
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>>49557978
Ah, alright then.

Why not Sons of Horus, then? That way both sides still get Sworn Brothers, and they have some pretty cool models?

>Which is odd, considering they seemed to be on great terms with the Thousand Sons in the books.
And Perturabo was best friends with Magnus. Sadness.

>>49558014
MkIII is good, but MkII a best!
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>>49557990
speaking of tard strength, you show up and anon has his Iron Hands proto-Red Talon army painted up to be red like this. how triggered are you.
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>>49558031
I think the thing that keeps me away from MkII would be the layering. It's present on the MkIII but the solid plates of the front armour are sexy as fuck. And I have no idea how to properly build an SoH army. I've tried so many times and I've never been satisfied with them. That and I can never seem to find a colour scheme that I don't hate after 20 minutes of looking at it.
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>>49558051
About 95-100%
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>>49558067
how about this
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>>49558089
Knight Anon, I posted that easy IH tutorial for you to watch, and I see you trying to get away with screwing around again?

For shame.
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>>49557965
And doubly unloyal at the same time.

>>49558102
Looks like there is no saving some people. Maybe it is time to consider putting him out of his misery :P
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>>49558102
that tutorial is GREAT. but have you seen my imperial fists? I don't think I need another silver army.
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>>49558126
No, what you need is to be taken behind the barn and shot for ruining so many models.
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>>49558126
Your Imperial Fists are closet Iron Warriors.
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>>49558126
You DENSE FOOL.

That scheme is nowhere near the bright silver of your abomination of Imperial Fists. Heck, that scheme can't even be called silver after it's finished. It's the easiest tutorial that's close to FW's oil spill scheme.
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>>49557167
I'm not sure what I love more, that someone made that photoshop or that someone saved it

I'll get better pics of Praetor Joey up soon
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>>49553004
Red looks good, probably need some clean up on your gold trim. your blacks need to be highlighted, and be sure to drill those barrels. Not bad , brother keep up the good work. For Sanguinius!
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>>49558145
>ruining so many models
post yours or stfu

>>49558150
>abomination of Imperial Fists
lol
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>>49553054
I'm pretty sure they specifically mention that the suits of armour used by the Sanguinary Guard (A.K.A, nipple armour/ butt knees) are all relics from the Horus Heresy. I believe they are based on Mark IV. You've got me on the Inferno Pistols, though- I was actually curious about it myself.
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>>49558244
Lookin' real salty right there, pal.
Might be time to go out, cool off and start stripping those fists [spoiler/]
:^)
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>>49558244
Well mate, those hazard stripes won't paint themselves!

Seriously, if those IF were in MkII or III, it wouldn't nearly be as triggering, but the way you fluffed them as well as the fact that you used a Pre-Heresy scheme on MkIV marines is just dumb.

Just accept that you screwed up. They're not THAT bad, but seriously man, c'mon now.
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>>49555904
>>49555920
That's some really cool shit. Is the knight done with green stuff?

>>49555927
Nice. Are these Cassian Dracos' boys?
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>>49558329
>>49558342
I'm just tired of getting shit on by dudes who aren't even playing. as long as your armies don't look like this then I'll accept your criticism
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>>49558366
Eh, what you should have done was try to strip them and go at it again for that scheme. Black and yellow look quite nice, and if you had gotten it down I'd think they'd look much better than they do now.

That, and no one would mistake them for unfinished IW.
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>>49558366
Hell, even my son can give you some harsh criticism then.
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5 goddamn hours spent building these guys. I'm so blasted off my ass on superglue fumes that I can barely function.

Kill me, someone. Please.
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>>49558361
its the FW chaos knight kit, just the armor pieces fit right onto the normal GW kit.
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>>49558413
GLORIOUS MKII!

BEST ARMOR MARK!

Good.
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>>49558366
Largely finished EC dread. I need to get the paints shipped from my old place to do the eyes and finish the banner.
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>>49558413
They look absolutely awesome, anon.
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>>49558413
If I do, can I has your models ?
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>>49558405
there's some terrible shit posted here and on the 40kg sometimes. along with B&C like Bladewolf's stuff.
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>>49558429
Man, fuck iPod posting. Sorry about the size and shit lighting. And the orientation.
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>>49558413
The real question is wether or not you can paint better than KA whilst high on glue fumes.
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>>49558416
I know about the kit, yours looks a bit different in a good way.
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This lad's my fave

>>49558446
>implying I'm going to paint them tonight
Nigger they're not even based yet. I might prime them in my room and huff that shit up to take up the challenge, though.

>>49558424
I'd be lying if I said I didn't prefer mkIV. MkII is crazy customizable with World Eaters bits, at least.

>>49558432
>>49558434
Thanks, and no.

>>49558429
Looks nice my dude. Black parts could use some highlights though imho
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Here's the Praetor with his giraffe neck addressed.
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The first 5 of 30 tactical marines (the rest will be Mk III)
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And speaking of Mk III, this is what I'm working on right now.
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>>49558537
Yeah, my greys are also with my other paints. They get shipped tomorrow so I can finally finish him within a week or two.
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>>49558604
What's the green, anon?
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Making some militia. Here's number 1. What do you think?
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>>49558651
Citadels' Loren Forest. Goes on very thin though so you'll need a decent base under it or 3 or 4 layers.
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>>49558668
Neat modelling, though your painting is rather muddled.
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I wish Praetors, and Force Commanders could take Heavy/Special Weapons, like Flamers and HBolters.

I really want a reason to buy Harker and use him.
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>>49558678
That's a lot simpler than I thought. You may have just ended my hunt for the proper green for Salamanders.
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>>49558668
Keep it up, these threads could use more non-marines.
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>>49558699
I was trying to go for the look of John Blanche's minis, but you're right. Seeing it blown up in a photo it does need some cleaning up.
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>>49558784
I absolutely see what you're going for, but yeah, in broad strokes it looks OK, but you need to focus up on the details.

What kind of Provenance are you going for?
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>>49558784
what parts are you using to make it other than skitarii?
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>>49558853

The torso is from the forge world militia kit. The bags and stuff are from the Kroot carnivore squad. The Mace is from the DV cultists. I think the grenades are from either the Cadian squad or the Catachan squad.
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There's the whole gang as of now
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>>49558894
>>49558853
>>49558829
>>49558784
On the subject of militias, what are some cheap available models for cult horde+tainted flesh models available?
I'd really like to field some hordes and tanks alongside my daemons.
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>>49559135
Dark Vengeance cultists and those snapfit Age of Sigmar cultist looking guys
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>>49559135

Ghouls are always a good starting point. They can be mixed with DV cultists relatively easily if you're handy with a razor saw. Replace some hands with chainswords and throw some creepy masks on them from Dark Eldar or the Flagellants kit and you're all set.

The Tzaangors from Silver Tower are cheap as chips on eBay. you could do a pretty rad Tzeentch themed cult army with them as Ogryn brute squads. Suitably 40ked up of course.

If you want the raided out look you can grab blood reavers cheap too. Add some greenstuff tubes and crap to them and you'd be all set.

>>49558829
I'm thinking Alchem-jackers and either survivors of the dark age or Cyber-augmentics for some sweet mechanicus allies. They're supposed to be techno-barbarian void raiders. Something like the fallen in Destiny.
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>>49553722
Hey maybe I'll give you two folders like alacran did because he complained when he couldn't read
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>>49554379
That's because 'that curzefag that shits up threads' is yet to return, you're just a faker
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>>49552988
What on earth is the purpose of this shit.
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>>49554903
I'm bad with the younger marks, but is that mk2 or 3
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>>49555028
Are those black or DOW blue black
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>>49555468
Nice fire drake m8
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>>49559478
...when did I do so? I was sad my folder was empty, not that I didn't have one assigned.
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>>49555725
That's cool but I'd greenstuff a tentacle coming out the shoulder pad because otherwise it looks too much like the OG model
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>>49559527
2
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>>49559522
Imperial scholars have studied your ass for millenia, and they've sent me back in time to trigger it.
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>>49558267
Well, sanguinary guard jump packs are definitely MkIV, just with wings.
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>>49559674
MkIV jump packs a shit, Harrier turbofan pattern a best.
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>>49559678
I'm quite fond of the modified MkVI ones on the RG Dark Furies. Love the streamlined look.
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>>49557437
>>49557437
Vil (villain)
Ka (Kamehameha)
Fenrir (fenris the Norse mythological creature)
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>>49559691
I like what they will become in the future. Also, NL Raptors not having pic related is all kinds of dumb.
>>49559697
Still a better name than Lion El'Jonson
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>>49557696
Are you and 'that RG bro' different people
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>>49558721
Can a force commander take a bolter? Say it's a Marine bolter.
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>>49557713
Buy calth sets and raffle them away to the plebs and then to the people that make a difference in the thread, like Alacran, KA and banner dude

You could raffle a whole calth set or put the squads into plastic bags as it's cheaper than GW direct
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>>49559714

Are you the Archivebro that has been doing this from the very beginning?
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>>49559714
Maybe "RG Bro" and "that RG Bro" are twin primarchs.
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>>49559691
I like MkVI with Mark 7 jump packs. It's classy.
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>>49557780
Well in that case, buy tickets to Thailand and buy a daemonette, then you'll truly understand why Fulgrim turned
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>>49553096

Over 1000 seconds in Adobe Photoshop later, this is a slightly less distorted to fuck version. Why the halfwits doing these leaks can't just put the thing down on a flat surface and take a proper picture, I'll never know.
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So uh, anyone else realize you could totally use the new RADICAL Cults as IM and Cults?
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>>49556897
Is that you scanon
ARMOUR AUTISM REEE
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>>49553096
Perfect, my DG was in need of a standard bearer.
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>>49559977
No I'm not him, also I was wondering how long it would be until someone pointed it out.
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>>49559977

Does Scanon play Ultramarines?
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>>49558342
I swear the reference image is actually mk4
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>>49558413
They look great, but why didn't you paint them before fully assembling them
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>>49559564
Sorry for being retarded man, it was a late night so that's why my memory is probably so shoddy
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>>49560062
When I asked last thread people said yes
>>49559730
No I started archiving yesterday
>>49559522
For this response to have dubs
It's basically just to categorise and save all the models posted here. I'm like Adam troke, I fly from army to army
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>>49559179
>>49559383
I had those in mind, didn't know tzaangors were available for cheap though.
Thanks guys.
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>>49559769
His face still looks like that of a monkey (though that might have something to do with geneseed rather than distortion)
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How many Ultramarine players are actually here? They're one of the legions you never see any posts about. Ultramarines, Salamanders, and Sons of Horus all seem to be really uncommon.
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>>49553091
Learn how to fucking paint before putting brush to model. It's seriously not that hard to get decent looking models but you seem to be deliberately being shit. You can have a well painted army on the first go if you'd follow the instructions people are saying, eg: thin paints, multiple layers, actual paint schemes, watch tutorial videos.
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>>49552573
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>>49561149
I am one.
I rarely visit 4chan, to be honest though.
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>>49561242
Oh good. I was beginning to worry that I didn't have any rivals out there. Thanks for playing Ultramarines.
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How does your legion start off its morning?
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>>49561402
Just as planned.
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>>49561402
Well, first the Angel gives the orders to begin our lightning assault, once it's clear there's no other option but the unleas-

Oh. MORNing. Sorry.
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>>49561490
Brother? Brother!
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>>49561402
The Burnt Iron Grand Company
>Woken up by the sergeant
>Still half awake I grab him by the throat and slam his head into my d4 that was left out after last nights Great Crusade game
>Because I was the second most senior man in the squad I am now promoted to sergeant
>I wake the rest of the men with a rattle on their beds, quick to avoid my predessors death
>During breakfast we watch an archaeotech recording of Davius Marion explaining higher maths to us
>We then start the day by oiling the artillery, those caught oiling themselves are sent to the EC fleet as part of a Cultural Exchange
>Before lunch each man must produce 100 earthshakers rounds
>Lunch consists of cultured bread for the privates and savoured void whale for the officers
And so ends the morning
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>>49561544
Sounds rather monotonous, but that is an Iron Warrior quality I suppose.
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>>49561518
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>>49561619
The Eye is evil! The Eye creates a plague of treason, but the gun is good! It purifies the galaxy and blinds the Eye. Now we must go forth and kill.
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>>49554654
Do you have any closeups of your miniatures?
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I'm looking to build an army that allies both the ultras and the fists, couldn't decide between the two so why not go for both
what specific thing about each legion do you think solves the flaws of the other? what stuff compliments both of them well?
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>>49559769
That miniature is like anime

A fucking mistake

Still gonna buy it though, I'm a sucker for exclusive minis. Probably not the best idea either, since I play WS and will have no reason to use him
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>>49559770
Between IG, Chaos Cultists, FWs chaos upgrade kits and now these guys, there's actually quite a few options for IG/cults players. And that's not even taking into account any WHFB/AoS kits you could think to convert up.
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>>49561961
but he looks like Ron Perlman's Downs Syndrome-afflicted cousin anon. Why do you hate the Emperor?
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>>49558361
You fucking bet
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I AM AN IRON WARRIOR

REEEEEEEEEEE

WHY IS IT SO EASY FOR ME TO MAKE WORD BEARER LISTS!?
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I'm so tired of this recast curzefag
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>>49562220
I know the feeling too well brother-in-bitterness, every White Scar list I've written over the past few weeks saddens me when I realise it would be so much better as a Ravenwing list.

And I have shitloads of DA parts lying around just to add insult to injury.
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>>49562345
I suppose the fault lies in that the Word Bearers were always my original legion choice, but after Angel Exterminatus I became greatly interested in becoming an Iron Warrior. But now I see that I am truly conflicted, for I have a love of both legions, yet my favoring glorious melee combat is obvious.

I even have an Iron Warriors related account on a different website.

I suppose it adds up to my love for Handsome Squidward as a concept. The punished son who turns away from his father, and is corrupted by those he trusts into following those he shouldn't. Tricked into damning his kin.

>"All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth."

>— Opening Lines of the "Book of Lorgar", First Canticle of Chaos
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>>49562447
>All I ever wanted was the truth
Lorgar is the guy who drowns house cats because the older guy down the street tells him to. He doesn't seem to realise that 'gods' can be ignored if all they want to do is murder people, give them turbo AIDS, rape them or turn them into Downs Syndrome octopuses.
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Horus Heresy Legions List is generally, from what I constantly see and hear, viewed as a subpar list to use against Wh40k codex's as the way legions are stated and points are spent are far more "eggs in one basket" while 40k can MSU and grind every efficiency out of their lists.

But at the same time my local World Eaters player has been rocking my local game stores with only Eldar or Grav Spam actually stopping him in his tracks because his tacticals are insanely good for their cost, FNP is everywhere and Spartans are insanely sturdy and can repair the odd grav immobilization here and there.

In the same vein my local Iron Hands player has been suffering immensely due to paying a lot of points for abilities that 40k armies for the most part don't care about.

What legions do you guys see as actually being solid in 40k games? Not just baby seal clubbing orks but actually doing well.
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>>49562508
Yes, yes, I get it, anon.

But Handsome Squidward truly interests me, and I think it's a shame that his only Sworn Brothers are SoH and Imperial Armies.

I like how he truly believes in his purpose, he doesn't do it because he can, nor because he hates everyone like an edgelord, but because he (wrongly) feels it to be the right thing to do. I like that.
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>>49562508
Lorgar was well intentioned, but misguided and afraid of being wrong.
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>>49562447
>You are weak. The Word Bearers have always been weak. Never with the strength to stand alone. You've always needed an EXCUSE.
>You always had to find a power to hide behind. A false god to justify your frailty of spirit! First it was the Emperor...and now these warp-freaks.
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>>49562553
Oh yeah, I wasn't knocking your opinion as my primarch is a tool also. Lorgar is one of the more interesting primarchs, I especially like how his change is highlighted by Horus in Aurelian and how he fucks up daemon Fulgrim in the traitor meeting.
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>>49562553
Another thing, I like that his model looks like an aged old man, as if he regrets turning against his father and brothers, but must carry through with his purpose.

>>49562556
Exactly.
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>>49556759
>tfw no Khan gf
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>>49562627
>tfw no Khan
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>>49562665
>tfw Khan't
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>>49562589
Is that from betrayer?
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>>49562727
Fear To Tread.
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So as weeaboo as sounds where is the space samurai legion? Is it one of the lost ones?
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>>49562797
No, they're 2nd founding Iron Hands successors.

The Emperor's Shadows.
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>>49562220

Those transfers look like they came out of a child's sticker book.
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>>49562875
Rowboat did say Lorgar was like a child. Who remembers that quote?
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What would the Emperor's stats be like?
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>>49563170
The rumours is ten in everything.

I wish stats were based on a maximum of 20 rather than 10, allows for greater differentiation between units.
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>>49563287
>The rumours
So is there gonna be a miniature of him?
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>>49562899
>‘He is so… changeable,’ Guilliman says. ‘He is so prone to extremes. Eager to please, quick to take offence. There is no middle to him. He’s so keen to be your best friend, and then, at the slightest perception of an insult, he’s angry with you. Furious. Offended. Like a child. If he wasn’t my brother, he’d be a political embarrassment and an impediment to the effective rule of the Imperium. I know what I’d do with him.’

And the rebuke:

>‘Have you lost your temper, Roboute?’ Lorgar asks. They can hear the smile.
>‘I am going to gut you,’ Guilliman replies softly.
>‘You have lost your temper. The great and calm and level-headed Roboute Guilliman has finally succumbed to passion.’
>‘I will gut you. I will skin you. I will behead you.’
>‘Ah, Roboute,’ Lorgar murmurs. ‘Here, at the very end, I finally hear you talk in a way that actually makes me like you.’

>‘Look at me, Roboute. You know they are not. You know it. You have studied every one of us. You know our strengths and our failings. Theoretical, Roboute! Theoretical! You know this is possible. You know from the very facts that this is a possible outcome.’ Guilliman steps back. He opens his mouth, but he is too stunned to reply. ‘Whatever you think of me, Roboute,’ says Lorgar, ‘whatever your opinion, and I know it is about as low as it can be, you know I’m not a stupid man. I would betray my brother and attack the assembled might of the XIII Legion… for a grudge? Really? Really? Practical, Roboute! I am here to exterminate you and the Ultramarines because you are the only force left in the Emperor’s camp that can possibly stop Horus. You are too dangerous to live, and I am here to make sure you do not.’

>Lorgar leans forward. The light catches his teeth. ‘I’m here to remove you from the game, Roboute.’

>mfw
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>>49559710

Shame too since Kromlech has that style jump pack and I like it over MkIV and MkII styles

That said I may end up using them anyway for my Destroyers if I ever get back in the hobby.
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>>49563292
>"rumours"
>kroot codex in 2004
>plastic thunder hawk for 25th anniversary
>30k wolves get thunderwolf cavalry and 40k combo wulfen kit like Daemons
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>>49563639
>posting on /tg
>has chosen not to buy plastic crack for a while
Confirmed shit poster
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>>49564159
You forgot plastic greatcoat imperial guardsmen
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My first plastic sprues arrived. Bought some off of EvilBay to start. These will be my practice marines, my first venture to decide how willing I am to spunk my wad into 30k, my-take-up-the-space-at-the-back-of-the-squad marines.
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>>49564186
>has chosen not to buy plastic crack for a while
>Last decent CSM release was in 3rd ED
Can you blame me?

I moved and lost my old FLGS and I'm waiting to see if they change the rules for Rubrics before I assemble the last 2 squads I have.

That said I have $180 sitting around waiting for B@C2. Until then, it isn't worth wasting money when I'm just going to stick it in the basement with the rest of my warhammer stuff.
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>>49552517
Primarchs already have precision shots and attacks.
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>>49564159
>plastic thunder hawk
>30k wolves get thunderwolf cavalry and 40k combo wulfen kit like Daemons
these 2 are real tho
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>>49564560
Even if the plastic thunderhawk won't happen I do hope FW re-does that model because holy hell, it hasn't aged well at all.

Just take a look at the 360 view on the site (specially the rear view) and you'll see what I mean
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>>49564293
>heresy armour has been out for 6 years (pretty sure that's when red scorpions came out)
>greenstuff of the non GW variety hasn't sky rocketed
No excuse
but yeah been playing since the 'chaos Lord on the front staring at you' codex was released, and yeah we really do deserve a better codex, and black legion supplement and veterans of the long war should make it flesh metal, psyfire rounds and all the other stuff they get in the fluff. And not just copy paste, with 20 man squads and 2 weapons on Knights
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When did the Luna Wolves/SoH drop the wolf theme? After the Heresy? Because Black Legion is clearly not wolf themed, but I'm reading Vengeful Spirit and it's like reading a SW meme book - wolf wolf wolf.
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>>49564660
What happened to the FW BEHNBLADE when GW plasticised it
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>>49564660
the probablem with a resin thunderhawk is that no matter what they do itll weigh too much. heavy fliers dont work.
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>>49564560

>30k thunderwolf anon

I guess we'll get the proof of your stupidity in a few weeks at least, and then you'll stop shitting up threads.
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>>49564778
you are the dumbfuck who thought GW made wulfen in 7th ed, werent you?
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>>49564806
Don't shit up another thread or you'll get banned
You have your head cannon and he'll have his head canon, and we'll leave it there
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>>49564843
>Don't shit up another thread or you'll get banned
who the fuck do you think you are, kid?

talking about space wolves is on topic, if you dont like it, kill yourself. and my 'headcanon' isnt canon, its the actual canon going back like 25 years, faggot.
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>>49564878
Many of them are wearing only their black carapaces, why do they even need the Power armour backpack reactor?!
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>>49564878
>actual canon going back like 25 years
>posts pic from 2016 instead of Wulfin from 1999
This does not help your case.
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>>49564878
You're either Australian or overcompensating your age, I don't care which but if you're at loggerheads with someone else, don't wind them up. Anyway I'm not a newfag I've been doing Warhammer since tail end of 5th when tyranids got updated and on /tg for more than a year
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>>49564913
>to power their power gauntlets which aren't even attached, like their power legs
>rule of cool
>GW is retarded
>complaining about how retarded some part of a retarded concept is
Also I thought black carapace was the whole body sans the face not just the chest
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>>49564936
>on /tg for more than a year
>a long time
>/tg
i hope you are baiting, boy.
>>49564913
they need their backpacks to carry around their scooby snacks
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>>49564972
>>complaining about how retarded some part of a retarded concept is
Ya got me there.
>>49564990
Possibly.
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>>49552400
I summon both BreadAnon and MODS!!! in attack mode
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>>49565119
Mods? What for?
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>>49565140
whenever somebody talks about on topic things that trigger his autism, he thinks he can cry and have them banned.

basically he is unfamiliar with how the internet works and probably a child.
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>>49565167
You and him are both autists to me, thinking anybody cares about what wolves are or aren't.
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>>49564972
Black carapace is under the skin. That's just torso armor.

>>49564913
If I recall, the new codex has some craziness about them plugging the reactor directly into their black carapace as part of some process that works to keep their bodies somewhat stable. It's not a great reason, but they needed something when the modelers go and make stupid shit.
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>>49565235
I srsly can't believe the different departments have to go covering each other's shit. It's like they didn't hold reunions to agree on stuff. I wish to believe them to be unorganized, lest this is all willing bullshitting.
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>>49565235
also the back pack makes it more IP-able and therefore harder for a 3rd party to justify ripping it off... even if it is retarded
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>>49565299
One of you nigmos summoned me.
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>>49564878
The old wulfen models will always be way cooler than those recent plastic abortions GW squirted out
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>>49565282
I recall there was one interview, and I wish I had better sources for this, that essentially explained the process for 40k (NOT HH) as the following:

Modelers make whatever they want/whatever marketing wants to sell
Rules guys make up rules based only on the look of the model.
Lore guys have to come up with reasons why the model looks the way it does and why it has the rules that it has.

Artists are given artwork of model to make for whatever book will feature its rules and lore. They are usually not given either the rules or lore.

None of these three generally interact with one another.
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>>49565167
>>49565140
>>49565215


>satirise all the BS11! rumors we've been hearing
>MURR SWEARS
>dude just agree to disagree and move on
>I'LL HAV YOU KNOW IM A NAVY SEAL AND HAVE 200 CONFRIMED KILS. YOURE THE KID NOT ME
>rules: posts should be of a good quality to contribute and keep a thriving community
that's why
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>>49563351
Have faith, Word Bearer.
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>>49565478
...what wrong with agreeing to disagree? Do you plan to make all the world to agree with your own specific opinion by force? Fait me >:U
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>>49565564
no, agree to disagree means,
>yeah I hate your guts more than gustav adolphus hated the pope, but we can still share a toast and go back home
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>>49565601
Well I still don't agree with it :^)
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