Horus Heresy General /hhg/

IRON HANDS ATTACK MOOOON!

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IX LEGION REPRESENT!
ANGEL FOR LIFE IRON FUCKERS!

Threadly reminder that one of the lost unkown legions were originally the Valedictors

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>>49565327
>Autek's face when he encounters a planet with 10 moons

>>49565378
he gotta mush them all together into one giant attack moon and ride it down playing a sick guitar solo

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weregeld has some interesting cover art...

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>>49565403
I know there is one planet creating program where you can add at least 20 moons to one planet.

>>49565299
why do so many idiots say that Russ ignored the Emperor to listen to Horus?

Russ never received the order to capture Magnus. Horus changed the order before it ever got to Russ.

Russ was still an asshole, but why do so many people act like he received 2 orders, and decided "Nah, I'mma smoke that nigga"?

>>49565440
And don't forget Valdor. That guy was almost as bad as Horus for the loyalist cause. One hell of a custodian

>>49565419
note how similar to the eye of terror models they are, insinuating it's a spontaneous change and not just furry jesus

>>49565440
I'll reread prospero burns and a thousand sons but I'm pretty sure he gets Emps message, and Horus says 'yeah 1.1 update says go kill him'
>>49565473
>be me, constantin valdor
>my only memories are of protecting the emperor
>i would give my life to save him
>as the emperor's chief guard I had to read all the books the emperor wanted to
>xenos and fanatics wrote about what magnus does now, but this book is from the distant past
>so always suspicious of him
>he breaks into the imperial palace
>he appeared as a demon from old night, with lesser creatures by his feet
>but he quickly disappeared
>clearly this was a failed assination
>if I must die to save the Emperor, then today is the day I enter into glory
>down with the nerd even if I'm with the dog fucker

>>49565299
Why do you guys have ceased to reference the previous edition? >>49552400

>>49565419
This is better than braided werewolves wearing black t-shirts and having frag launchers over their unplugged power packs. I doubt there is a problem with some SW turning into werewolves, when it is already established so, kinda like those Raven monstruosities. Moar rage, moar fury yadda yadda. I doubt they are as tough or as strong as Gal Vorbak OGs, but that's just an opinion.

>>49565440
>>49565579
>why do so many idiots say that Russ ignored the Emperor to listen to Horus?
Emps ordered a thing, Horus then said orders were X and backed his claims with his Emperor-given Warmaster authority. Russ was decieved and played like a fiddle, but the loyal wolf acted the way he was supposed to act, without necessarily meaning he agreed with Horus over the Emperor.
Just as planned :^)

>>49565353
Did Blood Angels and Iron Warriors ever met?

>>49565579
>even if I'm with the dog fucker
Russ and Valdor were big bros, were they not.

>>49565688
>over their unplugged power packs
the packs are actually plugged into their arms on the models 2bh.

>>49565688
Sorry, I forgot to do it. Had H.G Wells on the brain.

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>>49565419
pretty sure that's raptor's cover. This is weregeld.

Why do people even lie about this stuff?

>>49565698
Russ was more "muh honor" than Valdor; so they might have disagreed on that.

Valdor signed off on the assassination mission on Horus; while Russ refused Malcador's suggestion to bomb Cthonia

>>49565688
>Did Blood Angels and Iron Warriors ever met?
By the end of the Heresy, some element of every single legion fought both alongside, and against, some element of every single other legion. So yes.

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>>49565897
>Why do people even lie about this stuff?
you tell me.

>>49565958
Well it IS Weregeld's cover; since that's the only new stuff in there.

Everything else in there already has a cover

>>49565946
I meant it as in a named conflict

Anyone has that imperial fortress image? The one that doesn't appear in Stronghold assault.

FUCKING

ASSASSINS

IN 30K

WHEN

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2000 points Imperial Fists, one last time. Think I've got it down now.

HQ (175)
Praetor – Terminator armour, Paragon Blade, Iron Halo, Teleportation Transponder (175)

Troops (550)
20x Tactical Marines (275)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla, Nuncio Vox
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (275)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla, Nuncio Vox
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

Elites (555)
2 x Apothecarion Detachment. Artificer armour x2. (110)

1x Contemptor Dreadnought CCW with Plasma Blaster and Kheres Assault cannon (210)

5x Cataphractii Terminator with Transponder (235)
>2x Power Fists
>1x Power Fists and Plasma Blaster
>1x Chain Fist
>1x Sarge with Power fist.

Heavy Support (720)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Artillery Tank Squadron – 2x Medusa (310)

>>49566512
You think you can squeeze in a Damocles Rhino? It'll help your teleporting dudes a lot. Say, what's your strategy?

>>49566438
Not really that needed desu, only engagement they were in was Dagonet

>>49566512
IS this stone gauntlet? I assume so as you've not mentioned otherwise and you don't have teleporters out the arse so it cant be hammerfell. Looks pretty good, if a tad light on bodies. Fuck the AA and power fist on the sarges, just take a power sword, it's better for sergeants in my opinion, unless you can get AP2 on initiative.

Maybe consider a cortus instead of a prime contemptor? Save a couple points for some more goodies for your sicarans, perhaps a pintly combi-bolter/heavy bolter? Just means the main gun is less likely to get shot off.

>>49566593
>If it didn't happen in a novel then it didn't happen.

>>49566593
I want some fucking culexus, so I can skullfuck all the kiddies who are going to pick up 1ksons when the new box set comes out.

>>49566605
you cant deepstrike with stone guantlet

>>49566618
If it didn't happen in the novels, and it didn't happen in the FW books, it most likely didn't happen

>>49566593
>>49566618

It mentions in the novel as well that there have been many other assassin operations against Horus before, so presumably assassins would of played a pretty big role in the unseen battles during the heresy. Perfect for book 6 if you ask me, makes you wonder why they didn't include them.

>>49566651
Oh shit didn't realise, thought teleporter transponders were just special IF gear. In that case, why not give everyone you can a teleporter transponder as that's the whole point of the rite? and not to mention all those vehicles are going to be starting in reserve, you'll start the game with only two squads of tac marines on the board. If you come up against artillery spamming IW you'll be fucked

Which is exactly what those bitter bastards want

>>49566717
>Oh shit didn't realise, thought teleporter transponders were just special IF gear.
they are but you cant take them with stone gauntlet

i dont think hes running a RoW

>>49566656
The entirety of book 6 is essentially FW saying "there was a bunch of undocumented shit during the heresy, anything happened"

>>49566736
Fair enough

If he isn't running a rite, that then poses the question of why even take a fucking praetor? yes hes an alright beatstick, but why not just take a legion champion or a primus medicae or something, the Praetor just seems like a massive waste of points.

>>49566751
The fact that they haven't made assassins and have voiced no intention to proves they don't think they're important

>>49566665
Assassination attempts by small numbers of individuals aren't really battles though. And correct me if I'm wrong but most scenarios in FW books are quite large engagements

Maybe play that using Killteam or something

>>49566777
>nurglite trips

Fair enough, I just feel like it would be a nice little addition, even if they just said something like "heres how to use the assassins dataslate in 30k"

>>49566798
Has anyone actually tried 30k killteam yet? is it good?

>>49566438
when we get to terra, they're founded when horus is full chaos IIRC
>>49566512
no RoW? If so why not a centurion, to save points

>>49566980
Nope. They were around all through the Great Crusade.

>>49567030
assassins always existed, the specified temples existed but not as a unified body, it's malcador that founds the oficio assassinourium in its current form

>>49566512
Why Iron Halo with cataphractii?

>>49567169
Terminator armour doesn't automatically mean catapractii. Though why not a stormshield instead of an Iron Halo is indeed curious

>>49567233
I'm guessing the prator is joinning the cataphractii squad also with beacon?

>>49567169
Cataphractii+Iron Halo grants reroll to Invuln saves

>>49567169
>>49567233
Literally had 10 points free that couldn't go anywhere else.

Am adjusting the list again, though any real changes I make of more than 20-30 points are either stripping units down to bare bones or I'm removing units and trying to plug the gap.

I think I'm close, but my recent inexperience of 7e is what's causing me to waste the last few upgrade points since I've not played since 5th and I'm going off of memory and Battlescribe

>>49567317
no it doesnt.

it only does that in 40k.

>>49565440
In older fluff Russ was stood by the Emperor's side when Magnus broke the webway gate, so it seemed reasonable to assume the Emperor gave Russ orders while he was stood right next to him. I assume if newer fluff has Russ elsewhere at this point then this doesn't apply.

What's a good colour for an Ultrasmurf successor chapter? It's focused on battles in space and boarding action. So something navy-ish would be interesting.

I was thinking of Japanese Navy Green or a dark blue.

>>49567317
holy shit that is some A grade heresy your spouting

>>49567329
2 more Chain fists, no drawbacks.

>>49567409
>>/40kg

>>49567409
please take this homebrew fanfic dross to the 40k general

>>49567409
Checkerboard pattern of yellow, black and white. The black must be actually oily. Do it faggt

>>49567551
>what are blackshields
Forgeworld pretty much gave people carte blanche to paint their 30k marines however they want, can't really complain that people are coming up with homebrew stuff now.

>>49567628
>what are blackshields
trash and a wasted HH book.

>>49567628
Then it's a Blackshield rather than a smurf successor.

>>49567409
There's already a chapter like that.

Marines Errant, iirc.

>>49567628
at no point did he mention blackshields, and specifically states successor chapter. Being contrarian is fun and all but maybe try and back it up with actual facts. The 40k general is pretty much a containment thread, lets keep it that way.

>>49567628
>Blackshields aren't a meme
Kek
>>49567674
Also, this

So what's coming out from FW tomorrow? I've got money on Imperial Armour: Fires of Cyraxus since it'll be most likely for sale at the Warhammer Europe Open Day. Any other guesses?

>>49567771

Dain Ironfoot. They're not going to release anything big, that'll be announced at the FW Open Day on Saturday.

>>49567551
>>49567672
>>49567719

Rivet counter autists upset at a perfectly acceptable army option with a strong presence in prior and new fluff.

You can have equally autistic homebrew stuff in Legion lists. Just because FW decided to point out homebrew possibilities for Blackshields doesn't make them the only culprits.

>>49567409
>>49567675

This is also true. It wasn't until the Scouring that you see full-fledged "Successor" chapters showing up.

That said, the Smurfs and many other Legions already had distinct formations with their own colour variants and divergent tactics. Anon already listed the Marines Errant (who are pretty much what you're looking for anyway), and the FW HH books have also listed a few other future Successors (the ones obsessed with rad and the ones obsessed with vehicle swarms).

>>49567771
Have those legion-specific weapons and catapractii shoulderpads been released yet ? That should also happen at some point

>>49567814
Weapons, no. The shoulder pads for some factions are out.

>>49567786
Isn't FW doing a new Lotr core book too?

>>49567814
>>49567828
Technically there is RG bolter.

>>49567791
>You can have equally autistic homebrew stuff in Legion lists
And should you? Legal or not, autistic homebrews are autistic.

>>49567791
all homebrew is autistic cancer

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>>49567883

Autistic homebrews belong in the trash as they deserve. I was just pointing out that Blackshields don't have a monopoly on them.

I still remember the vocal minority of rivet counters in /HHG/'s early days who got bootyblasted over all the people wanting to play loyalists from Traitor Legions. See >>49567899 for example.

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>>49567791
the lengths you will go to trying to support a really basic 40k shitpost are pretty sad bro, maybe its time you went to the 40k thread as well? or are you just hanging out here waiting for fem primachs or other such cuck related trash, wouldn't surprise me at all coming from someone who defends "successor" posts in a 30k general let alone one about watered down homebrew smurfs.

>>49567899
Agreed...but I must admit Thunder Warrior anon amuses me and Blackshields could serve for him. But he kind of wanted to do Codex:TW or something?
>>49567922
Fair point, very true. Say, where do you find those Ye Olde pics? I absolutely love them.

>>49567409
Dark blue-gray is what I think of when I hear "naval." Or the Russian uniforms with thin horizontal blue and white stripes =p.

Just keep in mind that successor chapters don't happen until after the Heresy is over. Heck, after the Scouring. For now all you get are chapters within a legion. Those could possibly have different colors - the norm would be only a few panels in a different color though.

>>49567943
I'm not that guy, but you're overreacting
>>49567791
>UM successorts obsessed with rad
Isn't that some Traitor Loyalist fluff a namefag came up with for shits and giggles one day? Some Destroyer dudes wearing black and with laurels of thorns. Total edgelords those guys, but they seemed amusing.

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>>49567943

Shitpost or not, I won't apologize for trying to help an Anon create an army that is coherent with 30k fluff.

I could have spammed this thread with clever maymays for daring to use the word "Successor" in /HHG/, but I like to keep this general free from shitposting. I go to /gsg/ and /wtg/ if I want to see sperglords drowning in their own drama and self-loathing.

>>49567949

Sorry Anon, I have no idea where I got that image from. You could check out the KYM gallery for more: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/medieval-macros-bayeux-tapestry-parodies

>>49568035

No, they're an actual canon Chapter in the UM. Predominantly composed of Terrans IIRC. I'll check the book myself when I get a chance too.

>>49568056
Thanks for the link and for quoting me twice. I dare ask, what is /gsg/ and /wtg/?

>>49568056
>like to keep the general free from shitposting
>successor ultramarines are fine
oh lordy

>>49568056
>Shitpost or not, I won't apologize for trying to help an Anon create an army that is coherent with 30k fluff.
>but I like to keep this general free from shitposting.
then why the fuck did you respond to shitposting you moron

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>>49568102

> intentionally misinterpreting my point to continue shitposting

>>49568129

> Ignoring my other two replies

>>49568098

Grand Strategy General and War Thunder General.

Both are insular cliques of neckbearded sex offenders calling each other faggots for 700+ posts, before making a fresh bread and doing it all over again.

>>49568129
>Shitpost
Traitor World Eaters, Autek Mor's Iron Hands, Siege of Terra Blood Angels, dubs picks my legion.

>>49568102
Weeeeell it's not like Ultras and the concept of successor chapters (or chapters themselves) are divorced from each other.

Say, we do know of a few instances of alternate colour schemes/heraldry for some chapters within the legions. Weren't the Serrated Suns all red in a legion of granite grey even before the Pilgrimage?

not Rg bro can you repost your mk3 apothecary i accidentally deleted the file
>>49568174
assault cannons

>>49568174
imperial fists painted yellow

>>49568196
I got a MkII and a MkIV.

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Well, I found the section of fluff I was referring to. It's the Nemesis Chapter (rad) and Aurorans (vehicles).

>>49568224
mk 2 sorry

>>49568209
how about Iron Hands painted red with some OILY SLICK FW BLACK on the back of the legs and between armor plates.

>>49568174
KA, just do it

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>>49568235
Here you go.

I'm leaving for England tomorrow morning. Going to Nottingham sunday, anything good to buy there? Can I buy some FW without shipping fees?

>>49568209
World Eaters splashed with, and hear me out, some blood.

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>>49566372
This one?

>>49568263
I can't do it because the sight of blood makes me queasy~

>>49568260
dankeshan

>>49568288
Thanks. What is this from?

>>49568300
>when the homophobic jock of the team pukes at the sight of blood
dice creation tables to blame

>>49568174
-> >>49568300
Dubs demand Queasy Legion, not big surprise. Now we just need to agree on the colour :^)

>>49568238
how about world eaters that are just primed white and washed with some shit color so that they look like complete shit?

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Let's get this bread back on track. We all know the Siege of Terra book won't come out once the last remaining legions are released, so what comes out next? Imperial Army, or more AdMech?

>>49568321
>Homophobic
You take that back this instant! Knight Anon is scared of no homosexual, he can suck dick like no other homo can, all of that while getting reamed in the butt by Threadguy.

>>49567922
I know somebody who wants to play loyalist Death Guard with Calas Typhon as HQ.

How much does everybody else get triggered by this ?

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>>49568348
Kek

>>49568350
no, I was referring to someone I know IRL
>>49568348
a full list of fulgrim's rapes, imperium secundus, space wolves eating everyones shit, STILL CALTH
>>49568353
if he plays mk2 or 3 army then its fine

>>49568353
>Loyalist Calas Typhon
I'd need more context, as in for what pvrpose. Early Crusade probably he worked alongside loyalist Morturg, so it could work.

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>>49568350
>, all of that while getting reamed in the butt by Threadguy.
I'd really rather not have sex with KA.
>>49568353
Say it's set in pre-Heresy era and it's halal.
>>49568365
This does not please Spiidesh.
>>49568378
>Fulgrim's rapes
Actually sounds more interesting than wolves and Calth.

>>49568305
I think it's from the IA2 book.

>>49568365
I love it
>>49568332
so like this scheme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg2mNjuLyqw

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>>49568401
Never said you were going enjoy it. Holy shit I feel like Curzefag now.
...not tripping gets the best of me
>>49568430
Kek.

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>>49568174
Iron Warriors.

>>49568418
Thanks m8

>>49568430
kek his paints are so thick that the wash picked up the paints texture

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>>49568438
Al, don't end up like Curzefag.

>>49568332
>>49568350
Leman Russ' Primarch kills and a WE tactical's chainaxe's point cost is the same number.

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>>49568485
That's either a jobber Primarch or an extremely expensive chainaxe...
>>49568473
Like Corax, I'm scared of what it could have been.

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>>49568485

>>49568473
Provided Magnus' scarabs don't turn out to be a crossbreed of green lemons and scorpions I don't think it's possible.

>>49568401
If It's pre-heresy, then there aren't loyalists and traitors, there are just space marines so the point is kind of moot.

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>>49568518
Spider Hell is a real thing and you will go to it since Scorpions are arachnids. Here's a preview of it. Don't ask how this young Cazadore got ahold of a human hand in Spider Hell.

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>>49568526
>crossbreed of green lemons and scorpions
That'd make the TS Sworn Brothers in my iron book.
>>49568570
>mfw this is actually a dick

>>49568288
How do you build that, how large is it, and where can I get it?

>>49568633
>How do you build that
Forgeworld sold it.
>how large is it
Large enough to guard the realms of men.
>where can I get it?
Forgeworld doesn't sell it now.

>>49568599
The Spider Church does not have any information on this sea horse-fly-scorpion thing.

>>49568102
Successor chapters aren’t fine, but we’re explaining why not and providing alternatives rather than just telling him to go away.

>>49568348
Before the Siege of Terra we need the following:

Martian Civil War (Mechanicum, knights, good time for a titan)
Signus Cluster (Blood Angels, daemons)
Diamat? Thramas? Imperium Secundus? (Pick one to introduce the Dark Angels)
Kalium Gate or Catallus Rift (White Scars)
Alaxxes (Space Wolves)
Tallarn (Imperial Army, armored lists)
Anvilus (Sons of Horus?)
Solar System (last chance for new human factions, like the Saturnine somethings)

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Cleaned up the cyborg militiaman.

>>49568657
But why? It would be perfect for my IW LoW.

>>49568677
>like the Saturnine somethings
Some sort of auxiliary force in the sol system? Sounds cool, you could call them the Helios Reserve.

>>49568713
Could use a bit more highlighting.

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>>49568659
Mecoptera.
Also, from Revelations
>They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months
Turns out it was a prophecy about (literal) Inferno being delayed.

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>>49568748
How come he squats so much yet his legs are so skinny?

>>49568401
>Say it's set in pre-Heresy era and it's halal.

It was for a HH campaign starting at Istvann V

>>49568728
Oh, you!

>>49568677
>Martian Civil War (Mechanicum, knights, good time for a titan)
What could the Mechanicum get?
>>49568796
I want to know the joke
>>49568782
>Loyal DG
Then I guess it's not your Historically Reenactment version of Istvaan V. Still not illegal.

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>>49568735
Sweet merciful Emperor it was a sign. FW's release dates are in the Bible, /hhg/!

>>49568773
Too much time in zero G.

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>>49568819
Thousand sons confirmed for half assing, also do we have scans of the latest white dwarf as mine finally arrived

>>49568817
>What could the Mechanicum get?
30k versions of the 40k FW Skitarii variants (infantry belonging to titan legions), maybe some walker-type vehicles, the Macro-Arid Transporter that we've seen in prototype form.

>I want to know the joke
When he says Helios Reserve, he means Solar Auxilia.
But what I'm hoping for is a completely non-Terran faction that was defeated during the Solar System's version of the Unification Wars and is fading out but still has some strength.

>>49565299
How do I paint Night Lords; or, better question, what paints? I cant really nail that Midnight blue color, or the gold. Any suggestions?

>>49568909
Gene cults of Luna? They create some abominations that then get further mutated by chaos, excuse to run wulfen, gal vorbak and raptors in all armies
but SW just get furry FnP guys not 40k OTT Wulf wulves

>>49568936
/wip
Maybe the paint schemes from 3.5 will help

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>>49568909
The Macrocarid already has rules. Oooh maybe Onagers, maybe an assault transport? Asking for more Reductor stuff would feel kind of unfair since Cybernethica only has their Archmagos, while Reductor has theirs and lots of siege tanks. And a FOC.
But only one character :^)

>When he says Helios Reserve, he means Solar Auxilia.
You're simply saying solar auxilia twice, I don't get it.

>non-Terran faction that was defeated during the Solar System's version of the Unification Wars and is fading out but still has some strength.
The Selenar Cults, the moonmen. They turned the Emperor's delegates into screaming soup. I mean, he was the enemy and all...but that was kind of rude.

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>tfw I can get any one model (at a reasonable price) as a gift
>I don't know what to get
Not Perturabo, as I'm not good enough in regards to painting. Picking something that's not on my army list doesn't feel right to me, but I'd like something that could function as a center piece or something fun to do/nice to have.

>>49569005
>Not Perturabo, as I'm not good enough in regards to painting
Duh, get Perturabo and git gud before painting him.

>>49569005
Praetor combo kit

>>49568994
christ you're thick, unsurprising considering you're tripfagging. he is fucking being sarcastic.

>>49568875
>Ygethmor is still around

Nice.

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>>49569072
Damn

Guy who keeps posting the wolves here, I'm pretty sure someone already told me but how would you guys do a nice looking snow base? I don't like the look of GW flock

>>49569161
Get some ground glass from secret weapon miniatures.


Then snort it furfag.

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>>49569161
Blind posting this, might have a snow base on it.

>>49569161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67IOg4HqQ0
this fags video is decent

>>49567116
>it's malcador that founds the oficio assassinourium in its current form

And that was made during the early stages of the Great Crusade, probably just after the end of the Unification Wars.

>>49568174
Beep boop bitter Iron Warriors.

>>49569187
I'm going to do snow bases for my Salamanders. That snow base there looks ideal.

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>>49569161
I use mix up some basic scenery glue with a bit of white paint and GW snow.

>>49568677

Probably also a book for some of the darker marine stuff. Rubrics( if retconned), Wulfen, Raven Guard Abominations, Typhus's Plague Fleet, Fabius Fun-time Fanatics

>>49569497
>the heavy weapons duty
>tfw no close combat weapon
>tfw siggy wouldn't approve

>>49567786

DAIN?

>>49569674

The flight plan I just filed with Gandalf lists me, my Dwarves, Bilbo here but only one of you!

First one to talk gets to stay on my Eagle!

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>>49569662
>>tfw no close combat weapon
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>49569662
Ever since BT got rolled into the new codex, I've been running devastators and sternguard veterans more often than choppy dudes.

Forgive me, Sigismund.

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Which Legion would have pic related as native fauna?
>>49569762
I remember when that thing was good.

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>>49570234
I'm guessing radioactive Baal
>I remember...
Yeah, those were the good times.

>>49569836
Into the painglove with you ! We'll have a meeting about when we're going to let you out by the end of the month. Maybe.

>>49570234
Sounds a bit like those bugs that layed eggs in people's brains through psychic means on Prospero. Those bugs that almost wiped out all humans living on the planet

>>49570377
I thought Baal had giant scorpions. I'm not sure if they're Dwarf Fortress scorpions but I'm going to assume Papa Sang had to deal with crossbow wielding scorpions.
>good times
At least being a Demoknight is still good. Face to face man fighting is forever.

>>49570482
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/nOGvq
Take this and mutate it with SCIENCE! but no psychic powers (yet).

So, what distinct advantages did mkIV plate have over mkII? I know mkIII was a heavy-as-shit development designed for Zones Mortalis, mkV was strictly worse than the other marks by necessity, and mkVI was stealthy and had better optical systems. But so far as I can tell, mkIV was just a newer version of mkII, and just kind of eventually replaced it.

>>49570593
mark 4 had a helmet that was moveable

>>49570593
Mk4 was made with all of the advanced tech and materials the Imperium had at its height. It was dubbed "Maximus" because it was believed to be the best of the best. Horus made sure all of his mooks got the most of it.

>>49570593
-(more) movable helmet
-energy cables for the leg armour no longer exposed
-larger inflexable armour casings with flexible joints instead of separate abutting plates, easier to produce and maintain
-better protection and lower weight
-energy cables for chest and arms relocated to exterior to reduce heat buildup
-vastly improved neural interface

>>49570593

Though Mk. IV "Maximus" did have some improvements over prior marks as this Anon >>49570624 mentions, it was adopted more out of logistical concerns than Mk. II becoming noticeably obsolete.

The main advantage of the Mk. IV technically speaking was its excellent, if difficult to master, electronics suite, which included comms and suit sensors. Its protection was slightly better than Mk. II, and mostly had to do with covering power cables, but it had inferior range of motion due to the use of large armour plates instead of smaller, segmented ones.

The main reason it was adopted, however, was because the Mk. II suits were aging, and the Imperium needed a mark that could be manufactured in huge numbers, and which was easier to repair in the field (Mk. II's segmented plates were difficult to replace outside of dedicated forges). The later Mk. V took this philosophy to the extreme, at the cost of the sensor suite and comfort.

>>49570603

Only the early model Mk. II helmets were bolted onto the torso.

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>>49570494
Rad deserts often do.
>Demoknight
Get a haircut, hippie

>>49570533
>Black and orange thing with a sting like death
I'm scared. Now combine it with the raven's ability to hold grudges and communicate.
How about something like this?
>The original strain of the Scantid grew to a length no greater than 15 cm and was a common inhabitant of the desert regions of Korhal IV. It repelled predators with a mild venom which caused a mild rash and itching.
>After Korhal was ravaged by nuclear weapons in the surprise attack by the Terran Confederacy, nothing was left alive on the surface of the planet, but Scantids survived in underground communal burrows. The massive radiation changed the species forever.
>The mutated scantid is much larger; its claws are capable of ripping a human in half and its sting is filled with extremely lethal poison.
>THEIR COMMUNAL INSCTINTS HAVE SURVIVED

>>49570593
MkII was simply old and too complex, requiring lots of manteinance. The bell-bottoms it has are made of microscopic components IIRC. The Maximus armour was meant to be state of the art powered plate meant to replace the ageing MkII, it was simply better in all aspects. As for MkIII, that still served a specialist role
>>49570603
>>49570718
>helmet that was moveable
Wasnt that retconned away?

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>>49570593
MkII and Cataphractii afford you the best protection in the Imperium, stop listening to all those nay-sayers! I remember The Early Crusade days back when all we had was MkII and MkIII! Cataphractii wasn't even invented back then, and that was how we liked it! Phobos bolters, a bayonet, a knife, and your Crusade or Iron armor was all you needed. Now it's all about that fancy MkIV and Tigrus bolters! Nowhere near as good as the old gear, it's why I made sure my Grand Battalion kept the good stuff. Like when the Land Raider Proteus was the only pattern! The invention of the Phobos was the only good thing to come alongside good 'ol Cataphractii! I fought alongside the Emperor I did!

>>49570852
>T. Insane Iron Warrior Dreadnought

>>49570852
Sorry we made you upset grandpa. Did you send that post via dial-up or morse code ?

>>49570750
>Wasnt that retconned away?
no

>>49570750
>Get a haircut, hippie
Hey, in Freak Fortress Demoknight is good.
>hit the Hale five times get five heads and those sweet bonuses
>get hit your shield is taken like a razorback
>better mobility
As for your green text, too spooky for me.

>>49570852
>These neophytes and their Sicarans and Tartaros armours.
We hear this from one who has seen it.

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How are they?

>>49570852

Sir, do you still have your crusade-issue volkite charger or volkite caliver?

>>49571307
Overpriced and not that great.

>>49568570
You have a great sense of humor. Keep it up.

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>>49571386
>When I joined the Legiones Astartes we didn't have any fancy shmanzy vokites. We had chainswords! Two chainswords and a krak grenade for the whole platoon! -- and we had to share the grenade!

>>49571386
Mmhmm! Still got my charger right here, nice piece of kit it is. Now the Volkite Caliver is where it was it before it changed and it became new and what was new became that and all! Hmmph, why I remember a comrade with his Caliver really go at some Xeno scum! Burnt their flesh right off! Ah, good times. Heavy bolters are nice and all, and so are phobos bolters, but there's nothing like the sweet sensation of watching xenos flesh burn without the use of a flamer.

>>49571687
Oh, erm, Korst, was it? Have you forgotten where your Volkite Serpenta was? Mm, the Techmarine will be angry again, you know that! You'll definitely be disciplined for this infraction, legionary!

>>49571797
Serpenta? You might need to get checked by the Apothecary, Xhiphor. I can spit farther than that thing's range.
...I traded it for a combat shield, if the techmarine asks say it was lost on the same depressurization that got sarge. He still isn't over losing that artificer suit, he'll surely overlook it.

>>49565419
More like Johnny confirmed

>>49572005
Johnny confirmed for being a true Raven Guard and not some queermosexual Blood Angel.

>>49572389

What's this?

>>49572427
It's bullshit, that's what it is. Spider night UM? We march for Nostramo, huh.

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>>49572427
Stats for the Ultramarine in Betrayal at Calth.

>>49572474
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Steloc_Aethon

>>49572389
Could be legit, not OP in any way and pretty fluffy.

>>49572474
The fuck you babbling about?

>>49572518
aka Combine PotL with any RoW you want.

>>49572534
Not really all that different than the other characters that unlock units as troops and have MotL.

>>49572569
Dunno, they usually unlock just one.

>>49572534
Doesn't allow Legion-specific terminator units like PotL does though. Nor unlock LRs as DT for command squads.

Can that Khorne Slaughterpriest model that came with the White Dwarf work as Gahlan Surlak with a little converting?

>>49572595
He's 7pts cheaper than a similarly equipped Cataphractii Praetor. There's literally no reason to take an unnamed Praetor over him, not for the UM. At least Golg has his flaws (Ld9 Praetor kek), and doesn't allows you to bring Vets.

I'm not sure about his rules, not sure...

>>49572856
anything can work with converting.

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So is this supposed to cover the Vent Anus model?

>>49572901
It sure looks like ass.

>>49572901
Looks like he's got dildos on the sides of his mouth.

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>>49572901
purest white genes in Ultramar

>>49572901
How many vox units does he need?
>IVth inside the Omega
hmmm?

>A Night Lord and a Word Bearer have been tasked with doing Horus's laundry. They are having a debate on the merits of using Daemons to aid in the task.

>"You know Daemons can help us, Sev," the Word Bearer cries, "for the power of the warp cares not for time or space - Tzeentch's warpfire can have the laundry done before we even start it!"

>"I have no need for your magicks to help us, Ron," replied the Night Lord. "Using only the power of fear, I can scare the water straight out of the Warmaster's clothes."

>An Iron Warrior enters.

>"I can finish this task without any petty tricks," he growled.

>"Show us then!" challenged the Night Lord.

>Wordlessly, the Iron Warrior opened a compartment in his power armor and stuffed Horus's clothes inside. Moments later, he opened the compartment and removed Horus's clothes - steam-pressed, pristine, and cleaned.

>The Night Lord and Word Bearer stood mouth agape.

>"B-b-but how?" questioned the Word Bearer.

>The Iron Warrior laughed. "You two forget the motto of the Iron Warriors!"

>"Iron Within - Ironed Without!"

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>>49573305

My sides have been decimated in the Iron Cage.

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>>49573305
My sides weren't as unbreakable as my iron.
>>49573352
How do you guys do those images?

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>tfw account on B&C glitched and couldn't be finished being made properly
>Contact admin, says that they'll manually make me an account tomorrow
>it's been two days now
I just want to ask Dantioch about his Iron Warriors recipe.

If I don't have that account by Saturday, I'm going to worship the Emperor and change my Primarch to Handsome Squidward!

Best banner ever

>>49573570
>For the Armour:I prime with chaos black spray then go over that with slightly thinned Leadbelcher until I have a solid coat. After that I go over all the Leadbelcher with Ironbreaker. I then wash the whole thing with 2 coats of Nuln Oil to dull down the armour, I then apply Agrax Earthshade in places I think grease and dirt would accumulate. Yeah the yellow was a bit annoying at first but I just used several thin coats of Averland Sunset until I got a nice solid yellow, took quite a while though. Hope this helps!
I thought he had been quite specific. Setbacks seem to affect you a lot, maybe you should be better off worshiping someone else.

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>>49573604
He seems to use a newer recipe than his old one, as seen in this pic and his new MkIII guys he hasn't finished.

>Setbacks seem to affect you a lot, maybe you should be better off worshiping someone else.
Yeah, I think you're right! The chaplains have been saying that Handsome Squidward's got something important to say, something about New Old Gods. Sounds good to me.

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>>49573639
>He took it seriously
Oh, uhm. Sorry for bullying you into wearing birds, I guess? I atributed the slight change to his growing skill and mixing the proportions a bit.

Reading Pharos now.

Kurze's characterization is retarded af.

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So, here's a list I'm taking to a game Sunday against some Word Bearers. It's fairly janky, as usual, and pretty much determined by the models I have available to me. WYSIWYG is a pain in the ass, but I just don't feel right otherwise.

World Eaters – Berserker Assault Rite of War - 2000

-HQ-
Legion Praetor - 160
Master-Crafted Power Fist
Refractor Field
Digital Lasers

-Elites-
Legion Contemptor Dreadnought – 190
Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon


Apothecarion Detachment - 135
3 Apothecaries

Legion Terminator Squad - 195
Heavy Flamer
Sergeant w/Thunder Hammer

Red Butchers - 295
The Devoured w/2 Chainfists

-Troops-
Legion Tactical Squad - 200
5 additional marines
Exchanged CCWs
Sergeant w/Artificer Armour and Power Fist

Legion Tactical Squad – 205
5 additional marines
Legion Vexilla
Sergeant w/Power Sword and Artificer Armour

Legion Tactical Squad - 155
Legion Vexilla
Sergeant w/Power Sword and Artificer Armour

-Heavy Support-
Spartan Assault Tank - 305

Legion Heavy Support Squad - 160
Autocannons

>>49570494
Yep Baal has super scorpions
and when I was a kid I wrote the most retarded home brew for them

>>49572389
>you think you know calth's tunnels
>I didn't see the light until I was a neophyte
>when your faith is dead then you have my permission to die

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>>49572856
>not making this beast
WEEW LADDIE

>>49573970
I was going to tell you to cut some points here and there to upgrade the Praetor to an Iron Halo, but you got your points well set. What's your battle plan?
As in, how will you manage to achieve the "get my dudes into melee, open the enemy metal boxes to reach the blood-filled insides"?

>>49574049

Post it. We promise not to make fun.

>>49573970
Missing out on transport for a lot of CC dudes.
Using the Spartan to get anyone close? What about the 3 other squads of footsloggers, not to mention terminators?

>>49573970
wanna post pics of your army. I'm playing a game tomorrow with my imperial fists against chaos and I'm pretty excited. wish there were more 30k legions playing around here but whatever.

>>49574176
Don't have the document, just posted it straight to that forum cranberry muffinman and emperors canaries promoted, I don't know if that website even still exists

>>49574189
Funny, I'm going to play tomorrow against a dude with nice Imperial Fists.

>>49574199
Oh come on. I want to read it. Or at least what is it about.

>>49574206
>Imperial Fists.
>nice
so not mine then

>>49574189
>>49574206
>>49574263
I wanna see both your legions!

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>>49574188
>>49574168
Yeah, transports are a big issue in my army I've left unaddressed. The plan was to huck either the Despoiler Squad or the Butchers in with the Praetor in the Spartan, and just rely on everyone else being able to footslog under the covering fire of my Dread and Heavy Support. The guy i'm facing doesn't run a whole hell of a lot of armour, so hopefully my Spartan can deal with what he decides to dish out.

>>49574189
Good luck, my dude. Make Dorn proud.
My Spartan is being proxied by my Land Raider Crusader while I figure out how I'm going to assemble the damned thing.

>>49568936

Drybrush with Rub n Buff Pewter, two to four very thin washes of 50:50 Tamiya Clear Blue and Clear Red mixed into a purple, airbrush layer of Auto Air Transparent Blue. Add lightning with administration grey highlighted with white scar. Bronze can vary depending on if you like them in gold, bronze or almost gunmetal; I like Runelord Brass + Agrax Earthshade, if you want real goldy gold then Balthazar/Agrax/Gehenna's/Runefang Steel is what I use for Ultramarines. Also had a lot of success with Leadbelcher + multiple layers of Agrax and Sepia, but it's a pain in the ass on the tiny little rims of MkIV. If you're doing MKIII, knock yourself out.

>>49574302
Let's hope no one ever brings pie plates

I like your set up there though, it looks like a real dedicated space

Has made me consider bringing more bodies compared to my own list too. Maybe I've got too many tanks for 2000...

>>49574302
so many questions: which guide are you following for those world eaters? love the dark lines, really stand out...but I'm afraid of fucking up white. also are those red butchers recast? how's the quality compared to the real thing?

>>49574349
God willing.
Actually, from the conversation I had with the dude I'm playing against, it seems like his army is a Cultist/Word Bearers allied force, so I think I should be good.

>>49574363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZGJg2oems

That being said, I haven't yet found a method of doing the blue that I'm happy with yet, and I have about 3 or 4 different shades scattered across my army. White's not as hard as you'd think; Duncan's tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veLfxJmIzyw) is also pretty good imo.
Red butchers are indeed recast, and overall I'm really impressed with the quality; there's no gaps or bubbling to be found, and the mold lines are almost nonexistent. Power axes are kind of thin and frail looking, though.

Considering dropping terminators for more dreadnoughts on the board - even though Imp Fists get the whole tellyport nonsense, I don't think I'm very comfortable with using Termies

>>49574218
40knation was the website, which has now been renamed or taken down, so bad luck for you

>>49574396
damn, the power axes were my concern. I have this huge fear or models breaking in transit or play, which is why I always stuck to thicker marine armies instead of Dark Eldar and other spiky bits. thanks for the inspiration though, everyone keeps telling me to avoid painting white because I'm a novice painter but I really love the pre-heresy World Eaters look. plus that new plastic Kharn model turns me on.

Alternative list spam. 2000 Imp Fists. Last one, feels better.

HQ (85)
Centurion – Artificer armour, Combi-weapon, Power Weapon (85)

Troops (805)
20x Tactical Marines (275)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla, Nuncio Vox
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla,
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

20x Tactical Marines (265)
>19x Tactical Marines, Vexilla,
>1x Sarge, Artificer armour and Power fist, Melta Bombs

Elites (545)
3 x Apothecarion Detachment. (135)
1x Contemptor Dreadnought CCW with Plasma Blaster and Kheres Assault cannon (210)
1x Contemptor Dreadnought CCW with Heavy Flamer and Kheres Assault cannon (200)

Heavy Support (565)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannons (205)
Artillery Tank Squadron – 1x Medusa (155)

More bodies, same amount of dakka, near enough.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Space-Marine-Sokar-pattern-Stormbird

>>49574701
>750quid
I doubt it will stop me getting one.

Do you think the Emperor could ever forgive any of his remaining traitor sons?

I like to imagine that if he were to come back and learn exactly what happened, he would at the very least pity Magnus and feel some measure of guilt if he were to kill him.

>>49574810
Emps genuinely loved all of his sons, even the ones who never felt the same towards him. His pride and arrogance were always an issue with his relationship to many of them, especially in the lead-up to the HH, but I do think that if he ever returns he'll probably be more saddened than angered by the traitor primarchs' current state - much as he was when he finally chose to destroy Horus.

I don't think he'd try to reconcile with any of them, however. Not even if he learned how some, such as Magnus, only fell to Chaos because they were fucked over by mistake.

Does anyone have that FW banner from awhile ago that had Fists landing in a iron warriors zone mortalis board
Asking because I want to know if the storm bird was shown off then or not
and yes I know the storm bird was first revealed at an open day but it's bugging me

>>49568348
>>49565378
>>49568401
super adorable spiders anon.

>>49570377
that image....

I think that's my spirit guide

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>>49565299

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Oh boy

Another obscenely large and expensive model that less than 1% of the playerbase will ever own, and those who do will use it at max once a year if ever.

>>49575245
Then GTFO of this general, we are willing to pay for fluffy armies, how many Titans have you seen

>>49575275
>fluffy armies
If you dont have at least 1000 marines per titan you put down then you arent fluffy

Having one of the largest pieces of wargear the imperium can muster walking into battle with what amounts to a single company is retarded

>>49575275
>Only real fans buy the giant toys!
Gatekeeping at its finest.

>>49575296
>I'll let someone proxy their black Templar army as Raven guard when they have the funds and time to get a proper heresy army

>>49575329
>I get ass ravaged by proxies because its badwrongfun
Yeah, it is so important people don't play with their toy soldiers wrong.
People like you are why people leave the hobby in droves.

>>49575344
It's fine to proxy for a few months, but if you're just choosing not to when everyone else is being super thematic
then that pisses me off just a little


but what evs let's leave it here

>>49575245
Anybody else disappointed in how it looks ? Stormbirds are descibded as being more aerodynamic and sleek looking than thunderhawks, yet this is essentially just an upscaled thunderhawk, aka flying brick.

And you can look through the side of the model around the turrets. Open topped AV 10 confirmed.

>>49575633
I liek it.

>>49575645
Then your opinion is factually wrong :^)

>>49575680
It's not an opinion, but a taste, and as tastes are subjective, they aren't subject to facts.

If that salamanders anon didn't get scared away, Duncan's done a video on how to do a flame effect on power armour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyDemyjP8E
Duncan's starting to get JUST hair, isn't he?

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>>49575094
> when this image made you instantly choose world eaters as your legion

> FEEL THE SPREADING CORRUPTION

>>49575094

This picture always triggers me. Lootara was blonde, not a brunette.

>>49576132
CRAAAAWLING INNN MY SKIIIIIIN

I would think a Chainaxe is more difficult to use than a chainsword, especially in confinrf places

>>49576487
Maybe that's why that is also said in the descibtion for chainaxes

>>49575245
Now to wait for Chinamemes to make one....

>>49575990
I hate this cartoony fire, it should look more symbolic.
Also Duncan looks hollowed out by these daily videos.
And what are they doing with the half-painted minis?

>>49576519
Must be nice for forgeworld, no matter what the model is or how badly it's sculpted they're guaranteed a couple of sales as the various chinamen pick them up.

>>49576511
And shouldnt it come with some disadvantage instead of being "free Heavy Bolter punches lololol"?

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>>49575245
Too bright! Dorn, control this!

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>>49574949
Jumping Spiders make up 13% of all spiders. Let that sink in. Not all spiders are hideous beasts, but cuties. See how happy this one is? Don't you just want to protect that smile?

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>>49575245
That's an outrageus yellow

>>49576766
Spider anon, hug!
>Jumps at your face, hugs it with eight legs, constantly shifting position.

>>49574695
Pls respond, work is killing me, need something to look forward to

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>>49576766
I hug you as well. Legs and chelicerae and all.

>>49576823
Swap the contenmptor Primes for Cortuses, drop the plasma blaster since that'll kill you faster than anything other than lascannons. Use the points saved to take an actual HQ choice, see if you can drop your nuncio and a few other bits and pieces so you can take One Punch Man or a decent praetor. Pray you dont meet any Iron Warriors and their artillery.

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>>49576821
Spiidesh be praise!
>>49576859
That scorpion looks like it had a rough day. Rolling to see if I get stung on accident.

>>49576658
The disadvantage is that you're playing world eaters, the most retarded of the legions.

>>49565299

What are all the references this image is making? I don't get them.

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>>49576945
It's referring to how Ironfather Autek Mor decided that the World Eaters needed to have a moon shoved down their throats, and destroyed Bodt, stole material relating to the Primarch Project back, and ruined a science experiment for the traitors.

>>49576945

its a joke, on the Iron Hands assault on the World eater recruitment world of Bodt, where Autek Mor (the Teletubby moon) basically initiated a doomsday weapon by altering the orbit of the moon to crash into the planet.

>>49565299
Saddest days when i have not started my 30k army, because i wanna finish the full 3rd company of dark angels in 40k first :(

On a side note, does anyone have a highly legitimate way to acquire the audio books for Fallen angels, and or other books from the BL because OY VEY! GW really likes to get their sheckles with more then double the cost of the hardback physical copy.

>>49576877
My list was basically this before, and took the advice that changed it to where it is now, and now I'm getting the opposite!

Welcome to subjectivity I guess

>>49577015
>highly legitimate way to acquire
http://www.blacklibrary.com/

>>49575245
holy shit, is warhammer stuff this expensive?

>>49568714
Well its was fucking big lets go with that, it takes up a more then a 2x2, the fucker is heavy as dicks, and sucks to move, more or less you just put it were you want it, and never move it from your house because its a small task to just move the fucker.

They stopped selling it because it honestly did not sell well, simply because of the price, IIRC, when it was being sold it was like $2000 + Shipping and handling,

THAT SAID!!! its an amazing piece and i would kill to have it, and have been looking for recasts of the things because its not that hard of a model to recast since its so large.

>>49577057
No/Yes. That's a legitimately huge model that likely less than a 1,000 people will buy by the end of this year, if half of that.

>>49575245
You COULD just go with a recast model and pay about a 5th of the cost.

>>49577055
Damn your dubs of making me shill out sheckles to GW >:|

>>49567317
Only reroll invuln rolls of a '1' and only in 40k you dirty fucking heretic.

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> I give my life
> Not for honour
> But for you

>>49575245
Fucking wasp! BZZZZZZ

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>>49577096
Should that exist for 30k as well? Currently ze Iron Halo on the Cataphractii does nothing. Well, it's technically Iron Halo on unspecified terminator armour that can then be swapped out for Cataphractii, but you get the point.
>IH/IF/Sallies gain a 3++ rerolling ones. IH does so with -1S to ranged attacks, Sallies & Fists do so with Eternal Warrior.
>Horus cannot kill the IF terminator standing between him and the Emperor because he fucking keeps passing his invuln saves.
>Emps doesn't get enthroned.
>The IF termie can't even be retconned out of existance, his invuln save still protects him
>His rerollable 3++ EW ass is used to plug the Imperial Webway while a better solution is being developed.
>As the 41st Millennium draws to a close in 999.M41 during what many pessimistic Imperial historians have begun to call the Imperium's Time of Ending, the Adepts of the Adeptus Mechanicus discovered to their horror that the Yellow Butt's invuln save was slowly failing and that they lacked the knowledge to repair its arcane technology.
>Unless something is done, the Yellow Butt's invuln support systems will eventually malfunction and the Imperial Fist terminator will die, surrendering his spirit to the Warp and throwing all of Mankind into darkness once more -- or setting the stage for humanity's final salvation.

>>49577057
>HORRY SHIT MONEY
Do some actual research before posting also, this is a game designed for middle class and beyond people, because we work in a meritocracy you have no excuse if you can't get a good job and start buying

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>>49577153
Why did they make Dorn look like Vince McMahon? I'm not whining but I need to know why?

>>49577381
Because the artist was watching WWE to understand how real men fight, not pussy ass riflemen

>>49577417
>understand how real men fight, not pussy ass riflemen
>pussy ass riflemen
>In the BS5 yellow legion
okei

>>49573107
4th company

>>49577433
Remember this is the
>dorn let me explain
>FIRE
Dorn

>>49577057
It is relatively expensive yes, especially the resin stuff Forge World makes.
However, this is a very large model, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd be looking at 10+ pounds of resin there.

The normal stuff isn't cheap by any means, but it is far more reasonable.

>>49577433

Infantry wins firefights
Tanks win battles
Artillery wins war....

>>49577498
> pencils win the past

>>49577466
>10+ pounds of resin
In description it says an assembled one weighs 6 kilos, add sprue weight to that and it's probably 6,5.

>>49577663
13.2 pounds for the Americans then.
Quite a lot of weight indeed, a very chunky model.

>>49577057
Honestly when it comes to Forge world stuff.

Land of the dragon is the way to go, Forge world games great stuff, yes, but i can in no way justify spending over 1000 on a few pounds of resin.

>>49577663
that's a big resin babby...
may have to buy one to paint red... with black racing stripes...

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>>49577716
>red... with black racing stripes...
Reminded me of ye olde racing toons.

>>49576976
>>49576974

Oh I see, oh who are the sean connery rambo and the other bare headed dude next to him suppose to represent

>>49578263
The gun tribes of Bodt.

Rumor mill says GW is going to take over production of all horus heresy generic units, leaving the legion specific stuff to fw so they can focus more on he new specialist games ranges. What this means for the rulea is anyones guessm

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>>49574943
It wasn't.

>>49576877
Question: why bother taking a Praetor or Alexis Pollux if I'm not using a RoW?

I was using a cheap HQ so as not to dump points into a footslogging target

>>49578619
>I was using a cheap HQ so as not to dump points into a footslogging target
That's a viable tactic too, maybe you could consider a Consul without "Support Officer" for some special rules. You also need some better anti-tank or your tactical squads will suffer.
Not the same guy.

>>49577070
>>49577380
>>49577466
>>49577714

It just seemed so expensive relative to the other warhammer stuff I've seen.

That's almost the cost of a decent computer.

>>49578615
>the bases are painted flush to their board
Sneaky!

>>49578778
Changed the Dreads to have Las cannons. That's about the best I can manage without having to fundamentally change everything.

I don't think my local meta is that vehicle heavy as it is; the guy I'll likely play next uses 1 spartan and a sicaran for example

>>49578515

Fuck that.

>>49575245
It's expensive because it will sell in low volumes, and it will sell in low volumes because it's expensive... in points. It's too pricey to take in normal games so it's going to be a collector's item, like most titans. Kind of a pity.

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Thinking of running a small Salamanders force of about 1000 points for pick-up games and shit. Anyone have any reccomendations for what's good and what to avoid?

>>49578965
Post in the next thread dude, thread is not long for this world

>>49578965
> R E A D . T H I S . B E F O R E . P O S T I N G

HHG FAQ
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8

Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

30k TACTICA
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics#Horus_Heresy

>>49575344
>People like you are why people leave the hobby in droves.

Good.

>>49578781
Please realise that it's a model that's nearly 2 feet long.
It's on par with a Warlord in terms of size, just not as intricate in construction, which means it's slightly cheaper.

>>49578993
Don't be like that. It's perfectly reasonable for people to ask for legion-specific advice here, the legion tactica page doesn't tell you everything (and for salamanders it mostly tells you how poor the legion is compared to others).

>>49579363
What? Their special units are great. You want to run a generic Rite of War, though, because their suck. Orbital Assault helps get around their low mobility.

The Emperor demanded I serve Him in His guise of Spiidesh, and I offer you bread >>49579755

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>>49574110
>want to make this
>play DG

I can't picture poison huggers being that swole.

Maybe see how the Custodes will be. Could make him into a character for them.