Infinity General: Blue is Best Edition

So, I need help. I'm an unoriginal bastard and painting my Hassassin up in Assassin's Creed colours, but I'm not sure what to do with my Asawira and other heavy infantry. The white robes and such works for the Hassassin miniatures, but I'm not sure how to paint up more heavily armoured figures to fit the theme.

>>49418556
How about an off-white, sandy colored armor with umber detailing?

Tell me examples of Lt Options who are specialists, not counting Chain of Command models who become Lt or people who were nominated Lt in the middle of the game.

>>49418814
There are a bunch, but off the top of my head:

Macheon
Anathematic Hacker
De Fersen
Barid

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>>49418895
Oh, just remembered Custodier too

>>49418895
tunguska interventors too

>>49418895
Asura Hacker

>>49418895
Sukeul, Nexus operatives and charontid. I think we've gone through all of them?

>>49418814
De Fersen
Barids
Interventors
Custodiers
Kusanagi
Nexus Operatives (except the spitfire)
Anathematic hacker
Charontid hacker
Asura hacker
Machaon
Sukeul

I think that's all of them.

>>49418814
kusinagi has a spec op version now

So I'm building a small Aleph force for some 150 point learning games with some other new players, does this sound alright? I'll be playing against either Qapu oriented Haqqislam, or Onyx Contact oriented CA.

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ALKÊ Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 25)
ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
MYRMIDON Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 25)
MYRMIDON Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 25)
MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
NETROD . (0 | 4)

3 SWC | 150 Points

Other things I have to work with, is Ajax, Penthesila, Support Pack, Sync Deva unit, Dasyus, Naga, Asura, Posthumans, Teucer and an Ekdromos

>>49418556
Just have them be their normal Haqqislam colors. Asawira hate being lumped in with silly assassins, and are just there because they need to watch the watchmen.

>>49419372
I think Thorak are better for new players, ODD is pretty brutal at low point levels. Just proxy for them.

>>49419415

I was considering that, but I worried it might conflict with the rest of the army. That little fluff relationship between the two did rather amuse me though.

>>49418657

Now that could actually look pretty awesome. I'm currently playing with ideas atm, so all suggestions help.

>>49419478
>it might conflict with the rest of the army

The asawira would want it that way.

>>49419447
Well, I switched over to ASS for the AVA6 on Thorks, but can't think of what else to fill my last 24 points with, got Atalanta, Nesaie, 2 Thoras with Combis, 2 FO's and 2 Netrods. The group has no problems with proxies, since we're all new, but I'd like to keep everything in the same unit at least with the same model, which mean I can run up to 4 of anything, really. And yes, my waifu is Nesaie.

>>49419012
Scots Gaurd should have one, but Caledonia can't have nice things, they only get obvious LTs.

>>49419518
>>49419478
>>49419415

And now I'm picturing a tsundere Asawira. Goddamnit /tg/.

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>>49419591
Don't use netrods for a teaching game.

Use your remaining 32 points to upgrade a Thorak to Ajax and give another one a LRL.

Ajax is great for teaching games because he is so straightforward and a cool model.

>>49419603
Wallace should be your Lt 100% of the time.

>>49419518
"Sir, we are being attacked by an unknown force clad in white and red."

"WE'RE HAQQISLAM YOU DIRTY KAFFIR! DO YOU SEE THIS GREEN? HAQQISLAAAAAAMMMM!"

>>49419629
Would be a good excuse to get used to impetuous troops, good idea bro. Already used my SWC on Nesaie and Atalanta though. Wound up with this;

7 / 1
ALKÊ Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 25)
AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
THORAKITES Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
THORAKITES Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
THORAKITES Marksman Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
NETROD Electric Pulse. (0 | 4)

3 SWC | 150 Points

>>49419689
God, Asawira must be pissed off all the time.

>>49419689
"Now a yelling man in green has starting running towards us. It's possible that this could be some new Ariadnan strike force."

"AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!1!!"

>>49419711
That looks good.

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The shirts suck. I called it.


The one with all the factions on it is the most ok though.

>>49419852
How many staff does CB have?

>>49419689
>>49419783

Damnit, now I need to figure out how to make it obvious that my Asawira are perpetually pissed.

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>>49419887
/tg/'s got you covered anon.

>>49419918

Dare I create the Angry Asawira? Is that a thing that should happen?

>>49419939
Do it you fuck. It would contrast terribly with AC assassins, and that's wonderful.

>>49419939
>Is that a thing that should happen?
No, but do it anyway.

>>49419852
Those look awesome.

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>>49419939
DO IT

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>>49419852
Those look awesome. Hopefully they have an easy way to get them in the states.

>>49419852
Damn when anon said there were shirts with all the factions on them, I thought he meant one faction per shirt, not all factions on one shirt. Fug.

They're is nothing more satisfying than double tapping a fiday in the back of the head after discovering the fucker with an Intruder

Just felt like sharing

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>>49418489
Now where have I seen that helmet before...

Anyone have a podcasts they'd recommend? I've listened to personal flash paper and mayacast and was wondering if there were more out there.

>>49421102
Now, you see, that is obviously a skull where the ORC is obviously a Goblin or fantastic creature with pointy ears.

>When you go out of your way to make a surprise attack with an Oniwaban against William Wallace near a couple of Galwegians because you figured that he was the Lt with inspiring Leadership.
>You kill each other in glorious reckless combat, bypassing NWI because of your Monofilament sword.
>Then you remember you're facing Vanilla Ariadna and that Wallace wasn't the Lt at all.

I feel like I was duped, but it was my own fault. Why take Wallace in Vanilla?

Do you think Blackjacks would have a separate model for the "Battle ravaged" state?

>>49422152
It's possible. I'd LOVE to see the box being two models, one trashed and one not. In Edge of Tomorrow style plating.

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>>49421102
>>49418489
You mean...

When your TO mispronounces "Aleph," (as Ay-leff) do you bother trying to correct them? I didn't. Sort of regret it.

>>49422152
>regular blackjack is bulky af, tag-like, twice as badass as AzraIl
>ravaged without a helmet showing qt tomboy inside

pls do

>>49422337
Is that not correct?
Or should it be more like El-eff?

>>49422506
Ah-leff or Ay-leff both seem fine to me.

>>49422506
It's a long A like "Alphabet" not "Ayylfabet" because it's the letter.

>>49419852
>MIrage V
>"le muet"
>loup-garou
Fucking ouiaboos.

>>49422337
I heard someone else say this was wrong so this time I googled it and sure enough I was saying it wrong.

>>49419852
I was chatting with Bostria at NOVA, he was wearing the all factions one, and I complimented his shirt. He asked me what my shirt size was. XL of course, the standard male Adonis shirt size He said he didn't have it, unfortunately. I wasn't sure if he meant he had a few extra shirts in his room, or if he would have just given me the shirt off his back. Either possibility would have been amazing. The shirts look good and Bostria is good people, are my main points.

>>49422506
When in doubt pronounce everything in a heavy Espanish accent. Everything Tohaa (when you figure out the dipthongs) Greek, Combined suddenly clicks at that point. At that point, all you have to do is memorize how to say Qapu Khalqi and resign yourself to never knowing the truly glory of mastering the Chinese tritones.

>>49423007
>Try for a long time to properly pronounce Chinese friends name
> "It's cool. I go by Perry for a reason. I get that you can't even heard the difference between what you're saying and the right way"

>>49423007
I've resigned myself to pronouncing everything wrong because my attempts at saying them the correct way will inevitably be just as bad.

Weebs get pretty upset when I ask them what weapons their obiwans are carrying.

>>49423072
Weeb here, nippon is actually pretty easy to pronounce. Once you learn the 5 vowels just pair them with a consonant and your good for most of it. Only weird common ones is their R/L can be hard on people and Tsu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPJIwff3w0I

>>49423072
I've named my Oniwaban OB-1 for that reason.

Anyone know any sources of good quality third party sets of tokens? I've found a few but they all seem really expensive for what they are.

I know you can just print 'em, but I like accessories that add to the gaming experience in small, tangible ways like that.

>>49423397
A couple of my friends use different color plastic beads for everything.

>>49418556

I actually did my Hassassins in the red and white scheme as well; it's worth noting that the Assassin's Creed scheme corresponds with historical accounts (many admittedly dubious or written ex-post-facto) that would refer to the Nizari Fedayeem wearing predominantly white outfits that then received red-dyed elements after assassinations to symbolize that they had been 'blooded' and their purity could never be un-sullied again.

Although this is mostly an extrapolation by later historical fiction writers like Bartol, it stands to reason that the highest ranking members would have predominantly red outfits with very little white, so I did my Asawira in red with white accents.

>>49423453

That's actually really interesting. I'll have to do some of my own research on that, but thanks for letting me know!

Why does release pattern make no sense in infinity? I come from warmahordes where everything is autistically complete. Each faction has a set of accessories, paints, starters, books and whatnot. Corvus just randomly gives out minis, resculpts, the odd terrain piece and no accessories. The rules are free but pretty daunting because lists dont build themselves. I love it but at the same time am very confused.

>>49419939
I drybrushed a white skull onto my Asawira. He looks grumpy. Like the badguy from that show that the Archer crew did on Adult Swim forever ago.

>>49423072
what the fuck even is a hsien

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>>49424698

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>>49421102
>>49422229
Dat's not a 'umie skull, dat a propa' ORK face ya gits!
Dat is so cause dem blue boys got most dakka!

>>49424552
Don't ask me. I made a database of like 99% of the releases and I still don't know.

>>49423072
>>49423373
One of my friends constantly calls his Obi-Wan as well.
Which is weird, Oniwaban isn't even that complicated of a word. It's just as easy as Acontecimento or Skovorodino.
We're Polish by the way.

>>49424552
>Why does release pattern make no sense in infinity?
They saw GW frustrating SoB and Bretonnia fans and they wanted in on it, but with every faction. Tohaa and vedic ALEPH in particular, although you can find a whiny USAriadnan here and there (the marauder box seems to have shut them up).

>>49425131
>vedic ALEPH

I've never heard of such a faction.

>>49425179
That's what some people call the non-Greek part of it.

>>49425179
Is one of the future sectorials, vedic an aleph killers (also named assasins of aleph, is a translation of the spanish name, not a official name in english yet)

>>49423233
this, and I'm >>49423070
here.
Also
>Only weird common ones is their R/L can be hard on people
because it's an undifferentiated sound. If they've got the type of accent where it seems like they're screwing up r/l when speaking english, it's because they can't hear the difference.
So any nip who gives you too much of a hard time is a little full of shit.

Tsu is a little hard, but it's easier than 'Gogh'.

There is a reason why Chinese people adopt american anglo names, and Koreans and Japanese people don't. You can learn to pronounce the Korean and Japanese.

>>49425217
>>49425232
I was being facetious.

>>49425085
It's Onibanan. I painted mine's monosword yellow for this reason.

also Akocimięto

Is it worth getting the acontecimiento starter box or should a wait for the next one?

>>49425179
Many non-ASS Aleph units have Indian-themed names, hence Vedic.

>>49418545
Fuck off carlos you bolivian

>>49425464
>Onibanan
>Akocimięto

Jak to mówią dzieciaki: skisłem.
My mamy też zwyczaj tłumaczenia lub spolszczania niektórych nazw: Father-Knight to Ksiądz, Hospitaller to Szpitalnik, Janissary - Janczar, Grenzer - Grancar itd. Czasem muszę sobie przypomnieć, że nie każdy kojarzy nazwę "Bożogrobowcy".

>>49425477
Most people will say wait for the new one, but if you get both, it will be a decent army, albeit with varied quality sculpts.
Still, that's 7 Regulars (and the new box gives you SWC options) for a Core link and extras, two Montesas ready for a Duo, one Bagh-Mari to use as a Sniper proxy and two different Akalis, both with popular loadout options.
Just put more shit on the old minis' bases to bring them to height.

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>>49424698
"hsien" just means "forever" or "eternal", though CB was pretty obviously going for "immortal", which would be translated as 永生 (永 is on their unit symbol thing). If you pronounce it like most people pronounce it, it comes off a bit like "Shien", which would be "First", which, to my mind, sounds pretty good too.

That being said, it's a bit silly to expect people to pronounce things correctly, especially since there's plenty of mishmashed dialect stuff to go around. Hac Tao is the most obvious (should be Hei or Hey Tao) but even Sun Tze/Tzu is weird.

I'd never fault someone for mispronouncing a YJ unit.

>>49425603
He's not wrong though.

>>49425233
>>49425789

Fucking tone languages.

>>49425789
Not to mention over a hundred years in the future, languages will change quite drastically in terms of sound.

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>>49425627
Fizylier, Szpitalnik, Bożogrobcy, Janczar, Baszybuzuk, Szaser, Żuaw, Łunochod, Gekon are common stuff. Not even a change, just translation.

Other fun name variants I've heard locally include Bulterier (Bulleteer), Bełty (Bolts), Pedomisie/Pedobears (koalas), MMM (Moran Masajski Morcerca/Moran Massai Murderer), Speckulka, Seczuan/Suczka (Su Jian), Gaylang due to pic related, Ksiądz/priest is Father Sforza, Punglings, Geishabots, Liski/Laski are a source of some confusion (Odalisques and Lasiqs respectively). Dziabazany. Mega Ryba, Glizdobot, Tohaamony, Judeoboty/Żydoboty.

I blame half of these on Maru. The rest, well, we are not mature adults.

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>>49425872
It's not all bad. Even silly Bolivians using translation software can get some interesting results. Su Jian translates as "Speeding Sword", for instance, which is appropriate.

Speaking of which, when Subaru, the Japanese auto maker decided on a name when marketing to the Chinese, they chose "Su Ba Lu", or 斯巴鲁, which translates as "the speed which overcomes the road". That's pretty good marketing there.

>>49425872
their is a difference between languages having different differeciations of phonemes and being a tone language.

There are a lot of different sounds that can be used in languages, and a lot are not shared across languages. What makes it weirder is that the sounds a person can hear are not universal, but develop during infancy. If you don't hear the difference between say r and l, or t and d, or 'z' and tsu/tze, or whatever, during that time, you might not develop the ability to hear them as separate sounds.

>>49426198
>Judeoboty/Żydoboty
Well, they are from ALEPH after all.

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Should I glue the sword arm to the Hac Tao before or after priming?

so what does ORC stand for anyway?

>>49427510
Omnia Research Corp

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Whaddup dudes,

Just thre together this list with a bunch of units I wanted to see work together. Thoughts?

Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 9
BRIGADIER BRUANT Molotok, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 28)
MÉTRO Paramedic (Medikit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
MÉTRO Lieutenant Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
MÉTRO Rifle, Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 12)
MÉTRO Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
ANACONDA Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 62)
OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0)
PARA-COMMANDO (Forward Observer) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
PARA-COMMANDO Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
112 Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 12)

GROUP 25 / 1
MOBLOT (Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR AP Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 26)
WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

5.5 SWC | 298 Points

>>49427318
So the blade is just resting on his shoulder plates?
If you are confident you can produce a paintjob that won't bring shame to your family name when subjected to a high resolution digital camera, leave it off and paint the fuck out of all the plates you would not otherwise be able to reach properly.

If you are a tabletop painter, glue that shit on and get glooping.

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>>49428518
I'm this level if it helps.

>>49428669
If you think having the arm in place will hide or interfere with things that need a high level of paint, then leave the arm off.
What I might do is just barely tack the arm on with the minimum amount of glue to keep it in place. Primer the mini like this, then pop the arm off and clean up the glue. You'll have a clean pair of surfaces for the final glue, meaning no nasty glue squidge spots (if you are careful).

Go to strip someone my tohaas cause I wasn't happy with my first attempt at them. Forget to take them off the bases. Realise what I did an hour later and take them out some of the bases are all weird now appearance wise. Oh well I've got a excuse to get some these now https://warsen.al/collections/bases/products/runohaa-bases

>>49429004
>stripping tohaas
Lewd.

>>49429004
>Go to strip some of my tohaa

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>>49428669
>Brush-painting
>Infinity minis
>in 2016

C'mon, if you can't use an airbrush at LEAST as well as Angel, you have no business owning Infinity minis at all. If you're not going to devote the time and practice to be at least that good, you shouldn't bother painting your minis at all.

This is the bare-minimum tabletop standard. You should be able to do at least this well.

>>49428314
>almost poland/10
That being said, while mid-field will be a clusterfuck, you really only have 3 long-range weapons, and one of them is BS11. Briscards are a bit pricey, but MSV1 with marksman rifle is a pretty nice deal.

I mean, I'd play you, so I guess that counts for something?

>>49429156
>You should be able to do at least this well.
>That "OSL" on the tires.
Literally disgusting trash.

Never post again.

>>49429171
I know, and I love my briscards to death, but I wanna try something different, you know? I also have a box of Loup garou, but the only thing stopping me from taking them is the lack of specialists.

>>49429156
Complete shit

Guys excuse me, but what is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebNYujMoLws

>>49429832
What the fuck is that voice?

>>49429832
Pretty impressed by those minority report graphics,

>>49429156
While angel is technicly good I think he makes bad choices. I was off tohaa for a long time because of how ugly the males look.
After seeing my friends bare metal ones though they are fine.

>>49429832

A pretty spirited attempt. It's good. Cheesy B-Grade, but in a good way. Like Command and Conquer/Red Alert FMVs.

Not sure what the mercenary guy was meant to do, though. Are 10 guys really going to turn the program over that far? Against sepsitors? Or is he proposing some sort of Shadowrun style deal to gain relevant design intel?

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Can someone tell me if they've heard any news about 115tech. They took all the servers of my favorite game offline for a week and my friends told me they did the same thing to their games. Anyone?

>>49429156
Really? Fuck I was going to pick up this game...

>>49419852

please tell me that she fucks the dog soldier while he's wolfed out

>>49430889
The fluff backs this 100%

>>49430889
Found the Nomad player

>>49430889

[sopiler]it happens during, not before.[/spoiler]

Is there any way to paint these models in a simple fashion and have it look good?

Feels like that look like shit if you aren't a pro.

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>>49429156
I brushpaint. Airbrush is not at all fucking required.
This is with basecoat and washing, in about an hour and a half.

>>49430942

Okay i'm gonna need a source for this.

>>49430975

What did you do for the skin and hair?

>>49430975
>hour and a half
how the hell did you manage that, you fucking wizard

>>49430952
Actually all the details make it relatively easy if you have any understanding in layering and highlights. Just thin your paints.

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>>49431008

This is the latest thing i've painted. How would I do with Infinity models? I seem to recall they're smaller and more fiddly than Warhammer or Warmachine.

>>49431005
>>49430985
>>49430975
Remember those Washes and Inks the "pro painters" shamed the rest into not using? They are the secret to quickly doing good looking work.

White-knuckling your brushes IS the hard way.

>>49431043
it looks like you rely on washes and drybrushing quite a bit, not a bad thing but wont provide great results on infinity stuff, where small, fine highlights and blending are king
definitely work on edge highlights, but also remember that the opinion of some cockheaded anon doesnt actually matter and as long as you like the way your dudes look, thats what matters

I like Dog Warriors, Antipodes, Wulvers, Irregulars, Caledonians.

Can I make an army out of all that nonsense?

>>49431043
You'll do fine. Painting skills are transferable.

Nice glow effect on that lance. How did you get the chard black effect to look so charcoal like?

>>49431150
Not the painter, but there are "Charcoal Grey" paints out there. Truly dark neutral grey should be a part of every kit.
And it looks like that spear point is dead flat, while the rest of the mini is "typical mini finish"

>>49431150

Besides the beginning layers of Averland Sunset, everything else was dry brushed on until Abaddon Black, and then I tried to layer on shades of blue. Of course I still have no idea how to wet blend so my layering still feels too thick.

Not a big fan of the 'edge lightning' they espouse but at the same time i'm terrible at not doing it.

>>49430975
Mate that is fucking fantastic you should be proud of those.

>>49431131
They all Ariadna? Then yes.
Making a *winning* force is more of a challenge.

One Infinity pundit I read a while back described the list building art of Infinity as "there is no "I ALWAYS WIN" list, but there are plenty of "I ALWAYS LOSE" options."

When matching your play style and the needs of the scenario, both faction and individual model choices are important.

That list is going to have more concerns finding cover than an all Size 2 force, and I suspect you'll find yourself a bit limited on ranged options. In a game about guns and proper cover...

>>49430528

He is under a massive workflow and is constantly painting. Hes the main/only studio and box art painter for CB. So some of the paint jobs suffer.

CB need to diversify their paint jobs and painters to find the balance that GW have when showing what can be achieved with their minis.

>>49431186
>Not a big fan of the 'edge lightning' they espouse
"They"?
Edge highlighting is appropriate for certain model elements, and stupid for others.

>>49431222

GW. Their model scale is already very exaggerated and I feel like edge highlighting only makes many of their models look worse.

>>49431221
I still have a laugh at the growth league challenge the old crowd did in WD years ago. Splashing just enough paint on their WFB models to qualify, and filling the article series with nice big pics of rushed crap.
Apparently when it was all done they were told to never allow substandard minis to appear ever again. So much for keeping the Hobby(TM) accessible..

>>49430975
>Snake?
>SNAKE!

>>49431244

Its not really fair to splatter some paint half-assed onto your minis and then bring it to big events or narrative stuff and expect people to NOT get upset.

>>49431237
Ah, okay. GW's sculpting style changed without them actually noticing as they switched to 3D modeling for everything. I'm not sure their studio painters have figured that out even now.

>>49431209

What can I say I like big monsters and big models.

Maybe I should just go with PanOc or Yu Jing or Combine.

>>49431253
It was an in-house thing, and the article series emphasized that repeatedly. The guys were trying to coax beginners past the "Great Grey Legion" stage. Not sure it worked.

>>49431259
Nah, just mix the big-n-hairy types in with enough normies with guns.

>>49431251
That's a carry strap.

>>49431176
Thanks

>>49431186

Thanks

Wet blending is a strange beast. I've found I have better control when I transition between dried layers but I do use it from time to time. I like to use wet blend glazes and washes but not highlights and transitions.

I use "Vallejo Glaze Medium" a LOT. When the layers are thin but robust they hold their color and composition without having to rush to use two brushes...etc.

Infinity miniatures are great sculpts and casts. However they suffer from that fact. GW sculpts are mostly "larger than life" and full of details that break the flats of the surfaces. You will find with CB minis that you have large flat areas that need lots of line work. Don't worry about being to neat until you start the final stages of highlights as they will pull the other layers together visually. Most importantly just experiment. You can always strip the mini.

>>49431285

I'm not as big on the spetsnaz/navy seal tacticool goons, wish they had some more armored dudes. I'm guessing game melee is pointless in this game too?

>>49431315

How do you wet blend with glazes and washes??

>>49431258
Its hard to know how the studio painters really ant to work on the miniatures as GW try and keep their studio shots to a particular style.

If you ever get a chance to see how they paint in their own style you would be amazed at how good they are. For example the girl that does the warhammer tv tutorials sometimes has a wonderful painterly style that doesn't show through in the studio work.

This isnt a problem for GW as their are many, many top painters that paint their miniatures in drastically alternative styles. CB don't have this yet but it will happen as popularity grows.

>>49431317
Not totally pointless, but it's a niche thing. Close range troops will usually use templates like chain rifles against small dudes and CC against big killy things like TAGs or HI. Wolfmen don't tend to have too much trouble getting in range since they have reliable smoke while being tough and mobile. Antipodes aren't quite as tough, but they do have camo and have the utility that sensor provides.

Mormaers are a good ranged platform and will probably have big bulky models when they get their resculpt, but that won't be for a while.

>>49431317
>I'm guessing game melee is pointless in this game too?
It usually is best left as a deterrent for enemies getting too close to you. There are some units out there that really can bring the pain in melee, but it still tends to be risky and eat up quite a few orders to make it work.

In future space with plasma guns and giant robots, melee is naturally going to take a bit of a back seat in armed combat.

>>49431374
>GW try and keep their studio shots to a particular style
Which bites them in the ass occasionally. There are minis in the past GW line that they never got a good picture of. The first time I saw the original DE Talos on a table I didn't recognize it, because all of their pics of it are from a very narrow POV that doesn't convey the model at all well.

>>49431327
For washes:

With this example assume im working on a olive green base coat or similar.On your wet pallet have the colors you are working with ready. Start with two colors. So I have one green wash/ink and one purple wash/ink ready. I add one drop of glaze medium to 4 drops of wash/ink and about 2 drops of water. You can use flow improver or some other medium .

To wet blend a wash I first wet the entire area thats getting painted with a thin layer of water. Start with the green and let it flow as normal to the recesses of the sculpt. Now as the green is still wet we use the purple(as it contrasts the green) here the deepest darkest spots are but use it sparingly. Capillary action will pull them together. Experiment with the colors.

Awaken Realms on youtube have good tutorials on using washes!!!!!!

For glazing you need a glaze medium to stop the paint splitting and or pooling. Think of glazes as tiny layers of TRANSPARENT paint that change the temperature of the colors underneath.

>>49431068
We got shamed because the masses used them dipping style.

>>49431221
He is under a pretty heavy work load but most pro painters can do stuff that quickly no problem.
They're releases are so damn slow anyway.

What I find silly is how defensive they are of the colour schemes as being cannon.

>>49431221
>>49431559
Angel isn't the only studio painter.

>>49429156
Low quality bait/10

>>49430889
If you take it to /trash/ someone might draw it.

>painting red veil zhanshi
>get body painted nicely, I am not the best painter but it has gone well
>get hair painted, get a sort of Mako Mori black hair with blue highlights going on
>paint face
>fuck up one eye
>fix it, but in the process somehow get the blend of skin tone I used wrong
>now she looks like half her face was burned off and healed badly

I guess she had a run in with an auxbot

>>49430985
>>49431005
>>49431068
>>49431190
Tutorial -> http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/43879-killionaires-tutorial-alt-pose-isobel-mcgregor-in-90-minutes/

Washes are fucking amazing and makes everyone's life easier. Basic painting skills + washes are superior IMO to most casually airbrushed minis by being much more textured and visually interesting.

>>49431958
The best way to deal with fuck ups is to pretend you did them on purpose.

>>49431969
It's probably a better-looking attempt at painting scarring than I could ever do intentionally

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>>49431967
Pic related ^^

>>49430975
Snake!

Might sound weird, but how to get a Chinese yellow skin colour for the zhanshi face?

>>49432153
http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1310-ethnic-skintones

Basically paint it like a caucasian with black hair.
If you feel so inclined you could add a tiny bit of green to the skin color to make it look less red.

bought a collection of models for cheap and now I do not know what to do with them. They are
Hazakute rifle
Djabanza hacker
Support pack
3 Ghulam with rifles
4 odelisques
1 Aisrael with HMG
1 Janisary HMG

Should I go sectorial with those, or start with vanila. And what to buy next.

>>49432407
That's a solid start for QK, with all thoose expect for the Hunzakut. Get the QK starter next and you're good to go.

>>49432153
From Giraldez' book #1, the O-Yoroi pilot (all paints are Vallejo, most likely the Model Color series):
Basic Skintone (2 thin layers)
Black (outline hairline/eyes/mouth)
wash deepest shadows with Medium Fleshtone
highlight Basic Fleshtone
smaller/brighter highlights Ivory
glaze Cavalry Brown (cheeks/lips for the rouge)
freckles Cavalry Brown
glaze Purple (eyelids)

>>49432443
Would it be ok to proxy the hanzakut a something else? I don't think I ever liked a model like that before. dude looks just like my brother.

Ah I also seem to have another box with a huge spider missile cannon mecha, and Turkish Tigers box, and a saladin.

Hey guys, bit of an odd question:

Does anyone know of any house rules or conversions to turn Infinity into a Shadowrun tabletop game? House rules for Elf gangs, Street Samurai ect ect?

>>49432579
Proxies are generally accepted as long as you don't overdo it, and there are several useful snipers in Haqq you could proxy him as.

>>49432608
Not that I'm aware of, and it's such a niche thing I doubt anyone has done it. I'd probably do it myself but I don't know much about Shadowrun.

>>49431916
More like >>>/aco/ or >>>/d/ :^)

>>49432713
Cool. Ill try to get my hands on all three haqisalam starters. Thank you for the advice kind anons.

>>49431958
Pic?

>>49432776
There's going to be a new Haqq starter coming out soon. Take a gander at Red Veil, see whether you like the Haqq stuff in that or the old starter more.

>>49432755
Duroc is furry. That's /trash/.

>>49432755
It would only be allowed on /d/ if they gave Margot a dick.

>>49432797
Hmm. I could technicly wait, but from what I have seen hawzas are a rather important part of the army, and they don't seem to have a solo box of their own. Plus I could borrow some of my friends models to make it bigger, he even offered me his old alguciles for free, and he has an aditional mobile brigada he does not use.

Holy Christ those "sci-fi" rifles sure fucking are something.

This is some deviant art tier shit right here.

>>49433044
It is generally agreed they look awful.
Only regular rifles (Ariadnan and Haqq) look presentable, if a bit dull.

>>49431559
>how defensive they are of the colour schemes as being cannon
Who, CB? There are multiple color schemes in the books and no one will give you shit if you decide to depart in an entirely different direction.

>>49433044
I'm pretty sure the Yu Jing Combi rifles are ripped straight from the Starship Troopers movie.

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>>49429156
Yeah, no. I'm not getting an airbrush for 100+ dollars. I'm pretty happy with the brush painting I do at the level I'm at. I got compliments frequently when I went to a tournament and my models photographed in game the most.

Then again I was one of the two or three players with completely painted armies.

>>49431221
David Anta de Frutos (DAF) is the other major painter for the studio. Pretty good and paints the other stuff like models with different equipment, that stuff. I personally like how the painting style is consistent throughout the line. Seems more marketable to me.

>>49431317
Melee isn't pointless, it's more rare, but when it happens it's fun. I remember baiting three impetuous ordered troops from Ariadna (one was a Krakot renegade) with a Domaru Lt and killing them all in close combat with everyone going Berserk. We went out of our way to get to CC but it was fun.

I still regret forgetting to shoot a medikit at the unconscious Domaru with one of my spare orders but oh well.

Ok a bit of a strange question. I've tried to get into Infinity so many times over the years that I've just had stuff lying around. Was the JSA support pack at any point separate? I've found 2 Yao Zao and the Engie but for the life of me I can't dig up the Doc. Did I just buy them separately and never bought the doc and forgot about it?

>>49433601
I'm fairly certain you just lost the doc. They were always sold together.

>>49432608

I'd just proxy it. Yu Jiang would make for a great Elf Streetgang.

Rename hacking as 'magic' where appropriate and you won't be far off the mark.

>>49433601
I think the fleas were once sold separately.

>>49431317
I get into melee every single game with my gaki. They are there purely to maybe get the kill with a strike but ideally explode when they die.

If you go charging into combat you need to expect your man will die along with whatever you hope to kill.

>>49433652
>>49433613
I somehow just found the old clam for the fleas. So I'm not sure if the Engie and Doc came in a pack together or not

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>>49433704
Tokusetsu were separate too.

>>49433773
Thanks kind anon. I thought I was crazy when I remembered opening just the Engie from a clam. Now the issue is if I even need the doc Id need to find a way to get it without buying the support box again

>>49433826
The Doctor's one of my favorite models ever.
www.amazon.com/Tokusetsu-Doctor-Miniature-Corvus-Belli/dp/B00VPZVRHY

>>49430978
>In one of her missions she "met" Duroc, "perceived" his "potential", and "recruited" him to the Mirage Teams. Since then, they have constituted a tight "tactical team", "covering their backs" mutually.
>Sergeant Duroc has no more willpower than any other Dogface, but the presence of Lieutenant Berthier has a remarkably relaxing effect on his state of mind.
>for some mysterious reason, Margot spared his life. Full of "admiration" for her, and knowing that his "position was questionable" after being captured, Duroc decided to "take the bull by the horns" and "help" the beautiful agent.
>When the mission was completed, Margot sought the "re-admission" of the ex-Dog-Warrior to his former "regiment"

Categorically, the knot is in 100%.

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I'm not sure I'd spend 25 bucks plus shipping on it.

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Some anon said that there are too less paint jobs here so I post my wu Ming,
>inb4 mental rape
I don't play infinity that long
What you guys think?

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>>49433934
One more pic

>>49433934
>>49433942
Looks good but please don't take photos like that. Light on the model should be facing the model not behind it, nor should you be holding the model in your hand.

>>49433981
Yea I should not hold the model, but my cam sucks ass so, holding the model helped the focus, a bit

>>49433997

I have a special high tech method. You get the lid of a PET style bottle. You poke a skewer through the lid, and put a bit of blu-tac on the end. You stick the base to the blu-tac. Bam, instant secured figure-on-a-stick. Good for spraying from multiple angles, and photography if the light's being a pain.

I've got two 55 mm bases, a bunch of ORC, Eldar, and Tau parts from 40k, and some small talent. What do you recommend to use to represent holomarkers for the Lu Duan?

Do I just base it with something that might look like a projector? Do I cut out some plasticard?

>>49433880
I can "put" quotation "marks" around random "words" too!

Categorically, Mickey Mouse is the Anti-Christ 100%

>>49422954
Bostria is a literal God.

>>49433967
That bandit face always get me.
Still a sexy minis thought...

>>49431085
Washes and drybrushes look better on infinity than GW in my experience.

>>49431131
Play Caledonian sectorial with Wallace. He turns all the cheap irregular troopers regular.

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>>49431221
>>49431221
>find the balance that GW have

>>49434244
Don't do any 40k parts they look really bad next to infinity minis.

I would just use plasticard silouettes.

>>49428669
Glue it on lad. I fully assemble about 99% of all the miniatures I paint. Spots where you can't each with your brush are almost always parts of the miniature that simply won't be visible anyway without flipping the miniature around looking for them.

>>49434484
I still wonder what kind of Space Relaxin, extensions, and/or hair dye did she get to put her hair that way.

>>49429156
>he doesn't paint a black/white zenith primed Infinity miniature to tabletop level with glazes taking about 20 minutes per model at most
Step it up silver surfer. There is a reason why paintjob like that is called "display level". It simply isn't feasible to paint on such a level and actually playing the game every once in a while. People who do have display level miniatures and game with them are most likely russian oligarchs that have an award-winning artist or two working on it.

I know it's bait, but c'mon.

>>49430889
That's her brother.

>>49419871
Somewhere between 20-35.

>>49434609
Good advice.

>>49419871
25ish

>>49434662
Isn't it Scarface and Cordelia who are brother and sister?

>>49433967
Damn I love that Black Friar.

Hear me out:


What if we make some Haqqislam themed bases where the bases have rugs on them? Not actual fabric, just rug-like details.

>>49434702
Yup

>>49434753
You can hang rugs on some walls to get cool Ariadnan terrain too.

>>49434776
Heartily kek

>>49434662
Nah, they're unrelated.

>>49433967
Pheasant looks so goofy without the braid.

>>49436115
Short hair a best.

anyone have scans of the books, i want to see what i get over the digital free ones.

>>49436560
Background fluff and a bit more art.
The entirety of the rules are in the free ones.

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What glaring mistakes am I making?

>>49436560
lol

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>>49437269
Hafza can't link with Druze, Iguana is going to want more orders, put him in group one

>>49436115
Looks better IMO

>>49436916

What if you just want the background stuff but don't want to wait for the RPGs or have to buy any books because lore is a selling point on whether or not you pick up a game?

Can you run a decent combine army out of these models;

Anathematics
Zerat (any)
Speculo Killer
Rasyat (any)
Morats (any)
Raicho
Ko Dali
Shasvasti Spec Ops
Cadmus-Naish
Yaogat
Unidrons
Suryat
Witch-Soldiers
Umbra
Oznat
Rodok
Fraacta


...okay so most of their range

>>49437336

Nothing can (cept Druze of course?), maybe I should go for a LT that can´t link anyway, like a Mobile Brigada LT?

>>49437400
Read online stuff?

You are basically saying, I know driving on some roads is free but what if I want to drive on toll roads without paying. You can't.

>>49437481
Yes.

>>49437492
Then you should have 5 Druze. +3 BS/+3 WIP is really big.

Generally if you have an agressive Lt, you want a lot of veteran or CoC. Which, unless you play Spec-Ops means don't have an aggressive Lt. For QK.

I would put your Drop troops in group 2, you can move them to group 1 if you need to once stuff dies. 2 doctors with bots is overkill. Would be nice to get another hacker to benefit from Iggies repeater, especially a Druze KHD, to punish anyone who tries to hack Iggie.

>>49419871
56 Employees.

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Hey, Anons...

What would be a fine list for an hipothetical ALEPH 300 points pack?
- Must look good.
- Existing models.
- No Proxys
- If it includes a box of "Myrmidons" must use all those Myrmidons.

>>49437791
>- No Proxys
Anon that's not how vanilla aleph rolls.
If you want myrmidons then just go full ASS.

>>49437590
>You can't


actually i might cave and buy the book and upload it here.

>>49437791
www.data-sphere.net/starting-aleph/

>>49438120
I thought Data Sphere had some questionable advice about several units, and that some choices listed for some of the factions/subfactions were downright absurd?

Also, I'm pretty sure much of the starting out sections don't reflect the most recent changes to units and rules, ALEPH and Tohaa in particular.

Just getting into Infinity with a friend. Picking up a PanOceania Miltary Order Sectorial starter pack and a Druze Shock Team unit box.

Was this a good idea, or did I end up fucking up? I mainly picked them solely because they looked cool.

>>49438494
Well, those are two different factions. Can be used in casual games together though.

>>49437938
Then we wouldn't have the same whiny shitposter complaining everyday about it...

>>49438494
No, don't pick MO anon. They're bad.

>>49438526
Oh. I thought you could take mercenaries with any army. They'll still be fun to paint though, I guess.

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>>49437791
Will have 1 netrod left over.

>>49438559
MO is great. Just limited in its selection. I love Magister/Hospitalier links and TOFOOS.

>>49438494
MO might be a bit interesting for a newbie to play with, as they're both blunt, but powerful. You might be spoiled by the direct force possible, and annoyed by the idiosyncratic list options.

Magister are a fantastic next pick, incidentally. A link team of them will really fuck things up, at a good price.

But yeah, the Druze are unlikely to see much use, even if they do look pretty awesome.

>>49438571
Casual games yes, but not in tournaments. Druze only work for QK in ITS currently.

>>49438627
Yup, get maggies/Hospitallier HMG. Then Black Friar, Joan, Warcor and A box of remotes.

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>>49437791
>No Proxys
Nigga what

>>49438623
>TOFOOS
How do you call a Specialist Sergeant with a huge mold line going across his buttocks?
A bad ass MO FO.

>>49433967
I like how it looks like the Black Friar is freaking out that there's a YJ next to him.

>>49440371
That's the only thing you should like about that Black Friar sculpt.

>>49440445
But Black Friar is awesome, no matter how you pose him.
And I prefer the MR/Biometric visor profile.

To me it just seems that Yu Jing are getting the better deal overall in Operation Red Veil. Am I wrong in thinking so?

>>49440887

As someone who got the Haqq side, I'm perfectly happy. The Al-Fasid is fuckin' awesome.

>>49440009
CARLOOOSS

>>49440745
Nah, that pose is a giant bag of dicks.

>>49440887
Speaking as a Haqqislam player who had started playing ISS a month before Red Veil was announced-
no way.
Zuyong & Hsien may be more obviously useful than the Khawarij & Zhayedan but Khawarij are real tricksy in addition to being a rare source of BS13 outside of HI in Haqqislam, and the damage output of the Breaker Rifle Zhayedan is high. Plus the fucking Al Fasid.

The Yuan Yuan is a lot more useful for Haqqislam as QK can use it in ITS.

>>49441091
I love that pose.

>>49441329
Then you are wrong and bad and your opinions are wrong and bad.

Seriously, it's fucking retarded and horrifically ungainly.

>>49441363
The only thing wrong with that pose is that the tabard is not flowing fabulously enough. By which I mean at least Holy Sepulchre level.

>>49438494
Dont get the mo starter set
Its set to be updated and the teuton is completely useless

>>49441782
>Its set to be updated
When?
I wish people would stop saying "this is set to be updated" when they mean "I wish it was updated".
Next PanO Starter is Acontecimento. It's gonna be a while before MO gets an update.

>the teuton is completely useless
Now this is true.

But he has already got the starter, so it's useless advice.

>>49438494
If you want to play MO, you'll probably want that brand new Black Friar. Also a Seraph or some big knights to act as beat sticks, unless you're hellbent on proving the world that Teutons are not awful.
God, what did prompt them to remove Linkable from Teutons? Were they intimidated by Poland that much that they felt they should appease them and nerfed their historic enemy?

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Hello! I discovered this game yesterday. I've got the rules and stuff but I want to read the fluff to pick my faction. Are there PDFs of the fluff books that can be shared amongst anons?

I lost my folder with HSN3 in it, just answer me this question: Is a Zhanying absolutely necessary to field a Wu Ming link team?

>>49442347
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B957zKbO1rsvUkpxU0ZmeG1LTUU

that link has excerpts from all the unit descriptions and IIRC there should be some old copy of HS or the old rulebook floating around the web. I don't have it though.

I opened this thread for butts.

>>49442423
No, it's just useful.

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>>49442538

K

Tell me the tale of the time(s) you've had BS over 20 with modifiers.

>>49442701
23 BS with Atalanta against an impetuous troop who I had spotted for a classified. Got crit, failed my armor save and died.

I was in smoke.
He was critting on 2.
I had 2 dice adding 3 to my roll, critting from 17 to 20.

Yes I am still mad.

>>49442701
Not BS but got Eudoros in close combat with CC21, PH17, Burst 6 with DA CCW

>>49434484

Those hips man... those hips.

Hey guys, I'm interested into jumping into this game.

I looked at the miniatures, and Military Orders, Aleph (regular and Assault) as well as Combined Army's Onyx and Morat look the most interesting to me.

Are any of those 5 noob friendly/decent choice to jump into? If it's not too much bother, how does each play on the board?

>>49444520
MO suck

>>49444520
morat are super easy to play.

>>49444722
You suck.

>>49444912
You're goddamn right

>>49444722
MO is fine in N3

>>49444520
Moarts are gangster.

Onyx is lame edgy sith smoke cloak shit.

Aleph is cool, but ASS is overdone and there's no Vedics.

MO is cool, Joan is waifu tier. I feel the army is pretty static though, you usually take your magister link+sergeants+konstantinos and call it a day.

>>49433967
Is anyone else a little irritated at the new trend of every four man box having one unhelmeted fig? Really rustles my autismo. Even if they included two head option I would be fine (and I guess a knife arm or something for the ones holding their hat).

>>49444520
The "basic" AVA TOT troops in most factions are going to play similarly, due to most being just statlines and a similar selection of weapons. There are a few skills and tech toys at that level, but not many.

As the quality of the troops goes up, the statlines, special skills, and equipment improve, and this is where the factions really differentiate. Some use visual camo, others use broad spectrum camo or hologram throwing decoys, while others rely on smoke. Certain heavier weapons are more common in one faction or other. A couple factions toy with improved close combat training and weaponry.The hacking tools available vary with faction and specialist, as does the squishiness of the hacker him or herself.
Finally, the nature of truly heavy infantry varies quite a bit. A couple factions have a lot of hard armor types, while others have just a couple types, and one in particular uses genemods instead.

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>>49445099
i'm more concerned with the "no girls" boxes (Wu Ming, Djabazan, Zhanchi SWC)

Damn, i wanted another Djanbazan Girl like in the Ghulam Box

>>49444520
MO is big dudes in link teams supported by a few little dudes. You might want to use those swords, but it's usually a bad idea. Knights are good at shooting and there are much better stabby troops out there.

ALEPH is the elite faction. Tough troops, some great high tech stuff and lots of good anti-camo, with smoke throwing assault troops to support them.

ASS is the smoke throwing assault troop sectorial. They can have an unlimited number of their special character-based links, though 2 is generally the optimal number. They're good at beating things until they fall over, and work better in close/mid range combat.

Onyx are a mixed bag. They have a lot of good options from the different CA races, but they miss out on some great things as well, like smoke and non-TO camo. It's mostly big guns with mobile and/or sneaky little guys to support them.

Morats are brute force: the sectorial. They've got lots of link teams to choose from, lots of smoke and absolutely no sneaky options whatsoever. They're not good with objectives, but they have a few outstanding troops like Rodoks, Sogarats and Daturazi.

>>49445284
Wu Ming are at least going to get a female blister, though it's the HRL profile of all fucking things.

>>49445140
Who uses the genemods?

>>49445300
>>49445051
>>49445140
Thanks guys.

I understand from what I read that melee is generally plan C at best, but in case I did want a army that does well in CC,, is it safe to assume that Morat, ASS and MO are competent at it? Will help me narrow it down.

>>49445409
Yup, more so ASS than the other two.

>>49445409
CC is more about specific troops, but the MO knights, Morat warbands/Rasyats and quite a lot of ASS stuff can do well in CC. MO isn't really kitted out for it though since they have no smoke, are good at shooting anyway and only 1 of their CC troops has an ability that helps him get into range unmolested.

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>>49445409
JSA is a good CC option, those oniwabans can take down fucking TAGs with mono-swords, also they have one of the most CC oriented TAGS

>>49445300
I think that undersells MO a bit. They can pull rather drastic lists like TO spam or having nothing start in their deployment. They have access to a lot of different tricks except smoke.

The addition of the Hospitaller/Santiago Magister goon link allows MO to have objective scoring pain train while leaving ample room for other stuff.

>>49445329
Admittedly there were probably better profiles to have made in a single blister since the Panzer LS version subs in nicely for the HRL, but it is one of the profiles I'm likely to take outside of a core fireteam. I guess it's a good sign when there are so many good profiles you want a model of.

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>>49445444
>>49445490

Thanks bros, I'll probably go with ASS. The Optical Disruptor on so many troops sounds fun too.

A bit surprised the Knights fall behind in that department. The miniatures do look cool and almost everyone seems to have a sword/special CC weapon. Their TAG is a beautiful miniature too (and of course comes with a fuckhuge sword).

>>49445495
I just really want a rifle WM. Combi or MULTI, either would do.

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>>49445385

>>49445673
Sorry, this isn't a 40K thread. No Space Wolves allowed.

>>49445673
Is it really genemoddding if it's a result of your mum getting bitten by an alien?

>>49445769
The lab was Mama's hotbox, but the tools look familiar under a microscope.

Hey my dudes.
Was wondering if anyone could give me a heads up on press molds for weapons?
Are oyumaru molds good enough for this? Or is some other mold kit/resin suggested instead?

Thanks.

>>49445508
It's not so much that they can't melee, it's just that it really isn't their primary option. They are really good shooters first and pulling out the sword is a more opportunistic thing.

>>49445508
Nice model, what blues did you use?

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>>49445508
PanO Armor design superior, amirite?

>>49446861
>PanO design
>The Amerifat Jaeger
???????

A 5 man link shooting cannot shoot another five man link through smoke without msv2 right? The reactive link should be able to fire back do to sslv2, but would the active link even be able to declare the attack?

Can a link speculative fire? IIRC, a member doing a full order drops out.

Had a game today, I haven't touched the game much since March, had both of these done to me and went with it, wasn't sure on rules.

>>49447006
>A 5 man link shooting cannot shoot another five man link through smoke without msv2 right?
Yes, they can't.
>The reactive link should be able to fire back do to sslv2, but would the active link even be able to declare the attack?
No, they can't.
>Can a link speculative fire?
No, a link member drops out immidiately.

>>49447006
No. You can only actively shoot through smoke with MSV2 or 3. SSL2 just lets you react normally when an enemy with MSV attacks you through smoke.

They can now after HSN3, but you don't get the burst bonus.

>>49446861
>Not Striker

3/10 see me after class

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>>49445738
You were saying?!

>>49440887
>Zhanshi no one uses because they're not linkable, Keisotsu are cheaper and CG better at clicking
>Zuyong multi rifle, pretty much the least taken loadout
How about no. The useful stuff is the bowninja and Tiger hacker, maybe the Hsien if you hate Hennebo sculpts.

>>49445409
MO suck at melee

>>49447087
No furry fucks allowed.

>>49447507
>werewolves are furries now
What a world we live in.

>>49443037
Do you "add to your roll" with BS attacks? It's not just CC?

>>49447736
For all rolls if your attribute is over 20 you add the number to your roll. Totals of 20 or above are crits.

http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Criticals

>>49446861
Glowing weak spot / 10

>>49443339
With JSA I'm hitting over 20 in close combat every single time.

Heck, in the last game I played I had Burst 2 CC 26 PH 15 without even going berserk for the +6 against a silly Uxia McNeil who decided to go on top of the same building my Haramaki Link team was in. Only had B2 because she was in the corner of the building and I couldn't fit more than one other person from the link in.

Than later in that game I had CC 29 with my Domaru Lt against some berserk impetuous troops.

And this is on top of the times my Oniwaban or Kitsune have B2 CC 24/25.

>>49443037
Man, that sounds aggravating. I'd be so happy to add 3 to my dice rolls and so eager to roll for an easy kill that I'd just laugh at the situation where he critically passed the roll.

I'd personally suggest Morats for "Newb-friendly" but I recommend going with what you like the look of the most or rolling a D20 and dividing by four to randomly assign the champion to win your heart.

>>49444912
You can suck a Golf ball through a garden hose

>>49447707
Anything with hair not more than just on the head is furry nowadays.

>>49447048
>No, a link member drops out immidiately.
Not any more. No bonuses though.

>>49448530
Yep, you are right. But why no bonuses? +1B is not applied but you can still get +3 BS.

>>49445508
The problem with melee, specifically regarding MO, is that although they have better-than-average statlines and decent gear, they have two conflicting problems:
1) Knights are much better at shooting than almost everyone else's shooting, so they prefer that.
2) Because melee is both rare and very risky, if your knight *does* get into melee combat, it's usually against a melee specialist, and those typically have Martial Arts or other special equipment that can tip the scale in their favor.

Also note that ODD does not affect CC and, as usual, versus direct template weapons.

Why isn't the Al-Fassid profile on the army builder just yet?

I'd like to make lists with the operation Red Veil pack that came in for me today, dammit.

>>49448248
>You can suck a Golf ball through a garden hose
I don't want to.

And golf isn't a proper noun unless you're talking about the car, so there's no need to capitalise it.

>>49448584
This is correct.

>>49449130
The four years of German class still finds its way of sneaking into my writing somehow.

>>49448926
>AF has a model but doesn't have rules
>BJ has rules but doesn't have a model
CB, please.

>>49449768

Nuevo hilo