/swg/ - Rapid Deployment Edition

>>49298471
There's a mediafire link in the pastebin right above it.

Op's Book Repository Mega link only takes me to the force and Destiny core how do I view the rest of the Repository?

>>49298575
>>49298554

>>49298459
Does anyone have a link to the website of the gentleman making Clone Wars X-wing material?

I talked to him a few mounths ago on here but stupidity forgot to bookmark anything.

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How much cash per session do you give your players /swg/?

>>49298854
In what? Edge of the empire or saga or something else? What time period? Remember that everything is more decedant (expensive) the closer to the core you are. What was the job(s)?

>>49298984
Edge of the Empire. Standard setting (between IV and V) Players are average joe smugglers that have completed the intro premades and a few other jobs, but have stated they want to trick out their ships.

>>49299063
Who are they working for? Keep in mind in the mid to outer rim, people may not have credits as value, but goods or services. Imperial currency is only good for Imperial taxes, because you cant drink credits on tatooine. Have them work for someone who offers them a go at their scrapyard, or offers the more illicit services of a mechanic's shop. This could keep them happy with aftermarket upgrades, especially of the power converters they just smuggled could really amp up the juice on the quadlasers.

Otherwise think about a good "owe a favor" system. Let the players build a network of people in particular places that owe them a debt.

Once they realize they can get past a cargo inspection because they helped the local governor with a mistress "problem" they may not want hard currency.

As a rule though, i try not to payout more than about 5k credits total in the course of a session. If they have too much raw money they may stop caring about plot hooks.

Favors are nice, and throwback is helpfull, but ious dont pay that hutt the money you owe him for dumping the spice.

Things to think about.

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I have a,system ive been working on for a while. It also takes place between 4 and 5, and is kind of involved. It has a lot to do with the rebellion realizing that they got lucky with the first deathstar, and that they need more firepower to go up against the next superweapon, since snubfighters cant do everything.

I planned to have them travel to the worlds of the former CIS and see if any old clonewars tech is still out of official hands.

The stops include muunilist the home of the banking clan, now subjugated to be the new center of the imperial banking network (IBN) to look through old records provided by a former CIS sympathizer.

Next stop Geonosis, looking for the droid activation and running code for the old CIS droid cruisers to see if it could be applied in a similar way to a katana fleet concept. Slave rigging and droid brains for dayz. Im using the post virus bombing geonosis, mass extenction by imperial hands geonosis. Just sand and whispers of the past.

Cont on next post, if you have ideas or concepts to share, please do. I need help flushing this out.

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>>49299535
On geonosis, they will find activation codes that will lead to a reactivation of several former hive warehouse and storage facilities. Droids once again march the surface of geonosis and begin attacking an imperial mining/archaeological fort near the old poggle hive. I was thinking of having them choose between bugging out and saving the miners.

From there they can jump out system to ryloth or tatooine, nearby worlds where they can see (and fight) the roaring slave market. They can choose to make or break underworld contacts here since the criminal empires like black sun like slave trade, but the rebellion is a free/abolitionist movement.

By the same token there could be on planet unalligned abolitionist movments (Twileks for a Free Ryloth? TFR) that could also make a great network for the rebellion and the players, since slaves know a lot about their master's goings on and buisnesses...

Why is Ezra so overpowered?

>>49299997
Because he is a protagonist

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>>49299997
Because he got to start with both a mentor and a holocron. His player whores himself out at every chance for roleplaying XP he can and the GM eats that shit up.

how many U-wings are there, and why did they stop using them?

Question for you all- What's the cheapezst way to get 4 Tie Fighters? I want to expand my collection from 4 to 8 TIE fighters, but I don't see any of them on ebay, and I don't want to buy 2 core sets.

What would you suggest?

>>49300120
Cuz it appears to be some sort of troop transport/gunship and wouldn't have been much help at Hoth (probably too cold) or Endor (for obvious reasons)

>>49300120

At least in the movies, I don't really see a point where they would need them. The Alliance was on the defense in ANH and ESB, and in ROTJ the Endor strike time was more concerned with stealth than raw manpower.

>>49300134
Buy two core sets, then sell/gift the rest.
EBay is usually more expensive than its worth unless you want the blue ones from the carrier.

>>49300134
4 tie expansions is about $20 less than 2 core sets.

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>>49300120
We don't know if they ever stopped using them, as they are being added in 2016 to a setting that is nearly 40 years old, and we never really saw much of Rebel troop operations during the Original Trilogy in the first place. In ESB, they were already on the ground and then fleeing the planet, and in RotJ, they made their insertion utilizing the captured Lambda.

I speculate that the Rebels use U-wings as rapid insertion troop-landers, like LAAT/i gunships. Since they probably have hyperdrives as well, they could be sent in quickly and relatively quietly to drop off any necessary troops, skirt the area to avoid getting shot down, retrieve the men once the job is done or shit goes south, and then get out of there as quickly as possible. Since they're much smaller and much more maneuverable than GR-75s, I'd imagine the Rebels would be putting them to use for covert, small-scale, and 'delicate' missions.

>>49300299
Only if you buy at MSRP. If you get it online, or on Amazon for example, the core sets are much more worthwhile.

>>49300384

Yeah, the only time the rebels come close to needing a ship in that role is in ROTJ, and the mission parameters mean they need to use a captured imperial shuttle instead. They aren't strike craft like Ys or Xs, so they would have had no reason to go out at Yavin, and the Rebels didn't need to insert troops on Hoth.

I mean, shit, in the early EU, how did rebel soldiers get around? Just captured imperial shuttles?

>>49300215
I already have the ones from the Carrier, and I remember their being pairs of core set ties on ebay for under $20, and I'm wondering where they went.

And I don't like selling stuff on Ebay. it's tedious.

>>49298854
Don't let your players gamble themselves into 41,000 credits on session 1 and you'll be fine.

>>49300543
can they use a U-wing like a huey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

>>49300543
I always thought they used the gr75 for most of their troop movements and stole what they needed for smaller missions

>>49300611

It has a door gunner, as far as we know, at least.

>>49300543
>I mean, shit, in the early EU, how did rebel soldiers get around? Just captured imperial shuttles?
I'm guessing the Rebellion might have saved many a smuggler's career. Some of them must've owned their own ships anyhow, that shit's ridiculously common in the SW universe,

>>49300543
I figured it was a mix of nebulons, corvettes and !notFalcons
>>49300611
>Fortunate Son Intensifies

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sup /swg/ I found out that the $12 playmats I can make are actually pretty good, so-long as you don't use too much black ink. (the printer starts to run out towards the end...)

What's a good idea for a playmat? What's a funny one? Pic related was the one I made as a test run, and I want to make some more.

>>49300658
One over hoth or the surface of the death star might be cool.

>>49300384
I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that the rebels actually used some knockoff lambdas along with leftover clone war stuff.
That "somewhere" is probably not canon anymore though.

>>49300640
... ... ...

Anon... I could kiss you.

>>49300543
I'm pretty sure rebels bringing their own ships to the party has been part of the EU for a long time. Many of the early Z-95s were privately owned, and the rebs even had a few Imperial ships from defectors and theft.

>>49300640
You mean "It Ain't Sheev?"

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>>49300702
Plz no

>>49300640
>>49300623

I probably should have said "how do they actually land troops on a planet" instead. You're not doing a tactical fucking landing in a Nebulon.

But I know that Legends is crawling in like, stormtrooper barges and assault shuttles and landers for the Imps. Hell, TFA has both those First Order landers and the resistance shuttle... though the Resistance's shuttlecraft seems like its basically a canonical ugly, some poor bastard striped down a B-Wing airframe and bolted a couple of troop modules on the front.

>>49300701

Well, Rebels using refitted LAATs has been a thing since the classic Battlefront II era. Seems reinforced by Forged in Battle, too.

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>>49300658
What about a nebula or something like Sullust?

>>49300786
!notFalcons and GR-75s then, as well as whatever they stole/retrofitted.

>>49300750
>"I ain't no senate's son"

>>49300786
>not wanting to do combat landings in a gr75

>>49300795
>>49300695
You misunderstand, those are *Serious* playmats. I want extra retarded playmats.

I will make one Death Star trench though.

>>49300852
You could do star trek ships in the background and a giant star trek logo in the non-play zone. Or do hogwarts in the background.

>>49300852

Dakimakura playmat.

>>49300958

Current suggestions I have are

1. - Spaghetti in the 3x3, and the leftover zone is pictures of eminem with spaghetti pouring out of his mouth

2. - Black Science Man galaxy shots, and Bill Nye in the 6"x3' area.

3. - Shitty space wallpapers

4. - Space Jam logo in front of a galaxy.

I'm kinda bad with PS, although I do have one guy who is good with it in my group for making stuff.

>>49300999
>Space Jam logo in front of a galaxy.
FUND IT

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>>49300658
um

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>>49300999

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>>49301171
3 steps ahead of you. I actually pirated the Blu-ray copy of Spaceballs to take higher resolution screenshots.

This is next to the printer.

>>49301031
What do I put in the leftover area though?

>>49301215
COME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE JAM

>>49301215
Copyrighted material

>>49301296

So just pictures of creepy/cring Michael Jordan, or?

>>49300658
A Giant close-up of Porkins
TR-8R tiled in an 8x8 pattern
The entire mat's image is a jumbled smattering of scale-accurate tokens of all types
facepalm.jpg

>>49300658

Goatse

>>49301329
>The entire mat's image is a jumbled smattering of scale-accurate tokens of all types
I completely lost it when I read that

>>49301359
I actually had this idea, but with measuring templates, dice, upgrade cards, and base inserts as well.

>>49300414
if you're buying discounted coree sets you can get discounted expansions too.

if you only want extra ties 4 expansions is the cheapest way to go if you can't find any second hand.

as far as I've seen miniaturemarket.com has the cheapest expansions at $11 apiece.

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>>49300658

>>49301315
Maybe, I'd just do the text.

>>49301666
I meant how should the text be placed? just plain block letters?

>>49301707
Whatever font they used for the title on the DVD.

>>49301760
It doesn't say that on the DVD cover.

The logo isn't a font, it's just a stylized logo.

>>49299356
I'd throw in illicit goods as payment ad well. Sure, you could offload that crate of not-quite-new blaster rifles here, but did you know that you could get much more per unit just a couple of systems over? Of course there is a reason that the locals over there are willing to pay twice the price, but if you've got the stones to try it....fortune favors the bold after all.

>>49301834
Fugg. I guess block text

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>>49302031
>>49301296
>>49301031
Here's my WiP, now what do I put in the borders?

>>49301215
>not buying Spaceballs
>not funding Yogurt's addiction to Liquid Schwartz

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>>49293877

The ABT is mostly there so Zeb isn't useless in the end game. I used to play the build without the ABT there and he was pretty much worthless as an end game ship. Instead aces can't stand to get into range one.

Also people tend to forget that you can undock him early. I got a Whisper tailing me by undocking Zeb and put two damage into her.

>>49300757
Dick out for Harambe.

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>>49304118
Haarhhamm Biee

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I'm trying to come up with a pilot ability that makes sense for Gavin Darklighter in X-Wing. In the books he's a young hotshot who earns the title of "worst pilot in Rogue Squadron" by having the lowest kill count, but afterwards distinguishes himself as a dependable ace.

>After you perform an attack that does not hit, if you are not stressed, you may receive a stress token to perform a second attack against that target.

>Until you perform an attack that does not hit, you may treat your pilot skill as 12 during the combat phase.

>When attacking with a primary weapon, you may roll an additional attack die. If you do, after the modify attack dice step, for each blank result remaining, receive a stress token.

>>49304722
I forgot to include I'm looking to have him at PS5.

>>49300109
I hate how utterly minimalist Rebels is in the firepower of vehicles and starships. I mean, I don't want Saxtonian bullshit powerlevels, but this shit is ridiculous too.

At least that's something J. J. got right.

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>>49300658
>too much black ink.
Well shit

>>49299997
From what I'm seeing in the season 3 trailers, he's going to get even more ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kipQR6NcbEc

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>>49302127

>>49304894
Is that Charles Barkley?

>>49304967
Yes

>>49304894
>>49304967
>>49304977
Hey guys it's Charles Barkley! Do you wanna play ball mister Barkley?

What's your biggest pet peeve in storytelling? Mine's alien invasions, or extragalactic invasions in Star Wars' case.

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>Challenge Time

Stat your Shipfu for Armada

How many credits do you think the Hutts would have as a standard bribe for a star destroyer captain? Specifically for turning a blind eye to smuggling/slaving/all the fun hutt stuff

>>49305125
i doubt there'd be a standard. it'd be something decided on a case by case basis based on how big if anybbribes the captain has talen before and just how much the hutt actually has.

>>49305068
how about home one?

>>49305209

Already done - it's the appropriately named Home One expansion.

http://starwars-armada.wikia.com/wiki/Home_One_Expansion_Pack
http://starwars-armada.wikia.com/wiki/MC80_Assault_Cruiser
http://starwars-armada.wikia.com/wiki/MC80_Command_Cruiser

>>49299997
because he's a cartoon.

Everything in that show follows cartoon laws of physics.

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Considering they nearly appeared in the Clone Wars and Lucasfilm is already mining the EU pretty hard it is almost certain the Vong reappear in some form.

It has fallen to you, /swg/, to reintroduce them but make them good (quality wise, not morality wise).

How do you do it?

Hard mode: Suggest something that Disney would approve

>>49305360
is home one any good?

>>49298854
I use credits as a carrot on a stick. Giving them just enough to get them to go where I want them to.

>>49305469

Its outright firepower is decent though not specially powerful for the cost. Its real strength comes from its titles, which is useful.
It goes well with ackbar and another broadsides.

>>49305787
i spent so much of my life and money on X-wing, but armada is calling out to me, should i give in to the FFG side and spend cash on it?

>>49305158
Fair enough, I just got the impression there's quite a few imperials deep in the pockets of the hutts in and around hutt space

>>49305910
Oh there's probably lots in the pocket of the hutts, but they're not exactly going to be talking too their colleagues about how much they're being bribed.

Sup' /tg/

I'm looking for buying into Star Wars Armada, the upcoming Corellian Campaign pushed my decision.

Do you have any advice for a new player ? (Imperial)

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>>49305465
>Vong
Oh Christ no.

>How do you do it
Keep Scut, the best Mercy Kill Wraith.

Remove the BDSM bullshit and the Force immunity that every writer managed to circumvent anyway. Visually redesign them, reduce unnecessary spiky bits. Tone down power levels to the point where they don't commit bullshit genocides every weekend. Overall, make their threat level equal to the Legends Empire, but differently flavored.

For the overall story arc, throw the NJO idiot ball out the window. Make Team Skywalker consistently competent and lethal, but so undermanned that they still struggle to fight fires across the galaxy. Remove the "muh Palpatine and Thrawn prepper" bullshit and the Imperial apologists it spawned. Early phases of the war focus on subterfuge, stealth, and research as Wraith Squadron and other NRI teams fight a shadow war against Vong scouts. Gradually escalate the conflict and the NR's response, tech, and weapons. StealthXs and XJs return, along with lots of new ships. Ramp up the Poe hype while Rey and Finn take a back seat. Bring back the Stackpole Rogues and Allston Wraiths. Bring back Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn, Booster Terrik, Pellaeon, Fel, Talon Karrde, the Lando-bots, and all the other old Legends favorites. No bullshit name changes or mere backstory similarities. Bring back the real deal. Give it a happy ending--a New Republic that comes out of the fight bloodied but more united, with its corruption burned away and its military more powerful and battle-hardened than ever. Luke, Mara, and their nucanon kid get to be a goddamn family. Poe and his surviving teammates become part of this generation's Rogues. Pellaeon and Fel lead the true Empire into a silver age and help stamp out the last dregs of Vong and First Order sympathizers. Chewie lives, Wedge lives, Wedge's kids live, Lando lives, Vulkan lives, and everyone important goes home with a few more scars and medals.

Borsk also comes back and gets the death he deserves.

>>49305875

Yes, but look around and make sure you have players in your area first. Nothing sucks more than sinking money into ships you only get to play with sporadically.

Keep in mid there's a campaign box due *INSERT DATE HERE* so you can try to snag people with the power of organized play.

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>>49298459
>That picture

I told myself I'd only get the Art of the Force Awakens but here I am eyeing the Rogue One book also damnit.

Upcoming X-wing Tournament:
>no duplicate ships
>no unique anything (pilots, EPT's etc...)
>100 pts

What list can I bring which will wreck face? I was thinking a trio of Imperial higher-PS generics with Veteran Instinct giving me a list of PS7 and 8 guys.

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>>49306527
>Rebel Detected.

Though, I'll say one thing. Absolutely agree with you on Borsk. There's never been better proof that a democracy involving millions of different species and cultures will never work.

>>49306932
How about something like
Royal Guard Pilot — TIE Interceptor 22
Push the Limit 3
Stealth Device 3
Autothrusters 2
Royal Guard TIE 0
Ship Total: 30

Glaive Squadron Pilot — TIE Defender 34
Veteran Instincts 1
Tractor Beam 1
Stealth Device 3
TIE/D 0
Ship Total: 39

Gamma Squadron Veteran — TIE Bomber 19
Veteran Instincts 1
Extra Munitions 2
Proton Torpedoes 4
Cluster Missiles 4
Guidance Chips 0
Ship Total: 30

Change ordnance on bomber too taste. PS6 7 and 8.

>>49306932
No duplicate pilots or ships?

Royal Guard and Glaive squadron are the highest PS on generics, so kit them like you'd kit an ace. X7 Glaive w/ Juke and a Royal Guard w/ PtL and autothrusters is 61 points. Fill that out with either a support bomber or a couple cheap fighters like ties/FOs/TAPs. A Bounty Hunter may not be an awful choice.

>>49306932
just something I threw together. You got the support from the awac bomber and control from the defender. Then the advanced and regular tie are for mopping up the rest. http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!49:-1,-1,-1,-1,-1:35:17:u.183,u.95;194:57,22,-1:34:-1:;21:-1:23:-1:U.124;12:-1:-1:-1:&sn=Rebel%20Scum%20Bully

>>49306932
>>49307147

Well, you could always run this: https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!96:-1,-1,183,21,-1:-1:-1:;191:19,1,126,-1,-1,-1:-1:25:;10::-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

One big heavy beatstick, a bomber with a bit of bite and a pair of ps1 blockers.

The Systems Officer is just for a bit of fun, feel free to swap it out for something else.

>>49307147
This is pretty good. I was kitting my Defender out with an Ion Cannon but Tractor Beam might be the better choice.
>>49307157
>A Bounty Hunter may not be an awful choice
One of the rare times when this is true.
>>49307160
Good choices, but I don't have the Raider bits for the Advanced and this is an 'official' tournament with an FFG Prize Kit up for grabs.
>>49307168
Oooh a Decimator. Ballsy.

>>49305068
>VSD with gravity wells
>ISD with ion canon bubbles
Not sure if really want

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How hyped are you for the release of the Protectorate Fighters?

I am supremely hyped.

>>49307415
oh god fenn with apt and dead eye

>>49307415

As a Rebel, I am moderately jealous. Those things look like A-Wings that are better at the things I like to use A-Wings for.

Also a bit more expensive, admittedly.

>>49307435
I'm usually an Imperial Player but still gonna get three of this fuckers to run all the aces at the same time.

>>49307415
I've had mine since gencon and I hate to say it, but I think this ship is overhyped. It's great to have an actual arc dodger that can do the boost+roll+green hard turn. But man, I'm so spoiled by interceptors. No evade action hurts badly and the title can be a bit of a trap. I've had poor Fenn Rau get blown away by Manaroo just because I can only modify 1 blank result.

The PS1 and 3 are trash, but the rest are solid ships. Definitely one of the better scum small base ships, but the bar isn't set too high for them.

Think of them more like a Khiraxz that works and less like an interceptor, you'll be better off.

>>49307466
My personal deal is that I love knife fighting, and getting a ship designed for just that is just great for me. I can see what you mean though.

>>49307285
I started thinking ion too, but the tractor lets you shuffle the target around to mess with arcs and will be the first attack you make so potentially all your others can benefit from the -1 agility.

>>49306932
>wreck face

Please stop.

>>49307056
>There's never been better proof that a democracy involving millions of different species and cultures will never work.
Well, more like proof that a democracy with Bothans will never work. Everyone else tended to get along swimmingly. You don't see Wookiees, Toprawans, Alderaanians, or Mon Cal bitching endlessly about muh sacrifices.

Fucking Bothans.

>>49307056
> Fictional character
> Proof

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>>49307630

>>49307650
Wouldn't that be the best part of using Bothans though? You could just genocide the fucks by hiring them a few million of them to pop down the corner store for a carton of milk.

So I want to get into the X-wing game.

But I'm curious about a few things.

For example, if I get the Punishing One set... does that just get me Punishing One, or does can it be... I don't know. Jiggered to represent any other JumpMaster 5000?

>>49307858
The Punishing One box includes all of this:
http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/Punishing_One_Expansion_Pack

So it's more than just Dengar and his signature ship.

>>49307858
its the Jumpmaster 5000 ship and its only the punishing one when you put the title on it

>>49307858
Everything has multiple pilot cards and I'm almost certain every ship has generic options.

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>>49305465
Pay me lots of money and I'd do it.

>Suggest something that Disney would approve

Ok fuck it, I'm out

>>49305465
I wouldn't do the vong. Maybe just go with the original idea for the Vong before lucas shot it down, a dark side invasion FROM THE UNKNOWN REGIONS. However you need to make sure that in the new canon that really only happens once, whether that's a long, long time ago (remake of revans adventures?) or post Rotj.

Honestly the new timeline is way more depressing in setup than the leadin for NJO was back in the day. It would probably get much less of a backlash, just toss out the edgy bdsm/torture bullshit

I finally got an imperial assault campaign started last week with some of my X-Wing bros.

Now one of them is terrified of opening doors. Each hand we played he was the first through a door and was immediately bloodied by the E-Web waiting for him on the other side.

>>49308311
Game, not hand. Christ, I suck.

>>49307415
I'm a scum player, and (except for core set) the A-wing and TIE interceptor are the only ships I've bought outside of scum. Hell yeah I'm hyped.

>>49308311
I've been looking into new board games to play with my friends, how is Imperial Assault? The idea seems kinda cool, feels like a sort of RPG Dungeon Crawl thing in campaign forms with mission to mission stuff?

>>49305465
No. Let's never bring the Vong back ever.

>>49308366
Pretty much. The rebels control a single hero each, maybe some allies, and try to accomplish missions. The Imperial player has lots of units and tries to stop them. Both sides earn xp and progress over the course of the campaign, Rebels getting skills and weapons while the Empire upgrades units and gets bosses like Vader, Boba, etc.

>>49307907
There's a few exceptions, the ARC-170 and the upcoming Rebel TIE will only have named pilots. Think those are the only ones so far.

>>49307628
It's okay anon, you can sleep soundly tonight - I was using it ironically.

>>49305990
be aware that generally you're going to be slower and looking to extend conflicts in front of you for as long as possible. Tractor beams, Admiral Konstantine and the interdictor do great jobs giving you control of your opponent's movement, which can be victory before a shot is fired.

>>49308418
Oh, so you need more than 2 players assumingly?

>>49308685
You can do it with 2, just have the rebel player control multiple heroes.

>>49306527
I'd also say bring Ganner back in some capacity. I liked his whole "journey from an arrogant jackass to a true Jedi" thing, and the battle of the world well is a master class on how to do a lead character death in a series like Star Wars. He doesn't get chumped, doesn't die for no reason, he chooses to give his life, makes them pay dearly for it, and dies on his feet accomplishing something.

>>49306527
>Borsk also comes back and gets the death he deserves.
He got way too good a death in NJO.

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>>49305068
I know I'll never have it, but the Bellator makes me all tingly.

>>49307056
What role did those guys in pic serve, anyway? They were heavy, face-covering armor but you only see them pushing buttons in control rooms.

>>49309283
Gunners, and you see them manning the "Window Gun" light turbolasers/heavy laser cannons on the DS1 as well as firing the Death Star main cannon.

>>49308419
Attack Shuttle is the same way, even if the VCX has a generic.

>>49305465
Preferably, they don't. But, if you have to:

Sheevy P had hella projects when he was moseying around as emprah. One of these was to grab some of the more talented, slightly more amoral Kaminoan geneticists and divert them to a specialist project of his.
The Vong were the product of one of those research stations in the Unknown regions - a race of hyper-capable clone soldiers, a heavily modified genetic blueprint, effectively a designer organism. Palpy had plans for a small army of these things, a legion of hyper-capable terror troops.

As horrific sciences projects always do, it went wrong. When attempting to create a competent general, the scientists over-reached somewhat. Not as intelligent as them, certainly, but smart enough to break out of containment, kill or kidnap them and understand the research notes.
In the (presumably by then forty) years since RotJ, they have been increasing their number and generating their rigid caste system of clones. Born a scientist, a general, a warrior, a worker, etc.

>>49305068
I wonder what they are gonna do for future rebel expansions in armada.

So lets say Vader died superhard in my campaign and so did his replacement, "Darth Donte" (Dark Side ending Starkiller), who would be next in line to steal his place ?

>>49310214
Darth Ezra

>>49310058
Flurry.
Corusca Rainbow (stolen iterdictor, includes mai waifu).
Errant Venture (in both red nose and full red with billboards versions).
Katana Dreadnoughts.
Another Chance's two escort ships.

>>49310214
Jerec.

>>49310214
I also need to add that Luke burnt to death in a broom closet. So he isn't an option
>>49310245
I don't think my players have watched rebels.

>>49310378
Darth Leia.

So am I the only one who hates the "every Sith has a Darth name" thing?
I prefer the old style where they just had badass sounding names.

>>49310428
Come on, who doesn't like Darth Sinister-Name?
I don't. I don't like Darth Sinister-Name.

>>49310378
What kind of monsters are you playing with and why do you keep letting them near main characters?

>>49310477
I prefer a mix 9f both. With the Darth Title used by fundamentalist and try hard Sith

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>>49310214
The answer is obvious.

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>>49310585
>try hard Sith
That's pretty much what most Legends Darths were. Very few of them even came close to deserving the title the way Vader and Palps did.

>mfw even fucking Nihilus laughs at Darth Krayt for being a chump

>>49310573
>>49310378
I need story time for the broom closet murder.

>>49310573
They didn't kill Luke. They just didn't notice they were on the skywaker homestead and forgot to rescue him.
Vader died before the campaign even started and Darth Donte was deliberately killed

>>49310573
>What kind of monsters are you playing with and why do you keep letting them near main characters?
well clearly his players are psychos, and he's none too sharp.

even I had the good sense to keep my group from directly interacting with the main characters, and they were a fairly trustworthy group. actually, I even went so far as to have contingencies to ensure they were elsewhere when the events of the movies would've been playing out.

>>49310872
Actually I had no intention of following canon anyhow considering the basic premise is the noncanonical tfu1 darkside timeline.

>>49310824
Why would you intentionally kill off your villains if you didn't have anyone to replace them with?

>>49310983
Well the premise now is that there is a power vacuum and now the empire is having a werid cold war within itself. I have a few candidates already selected, but I need a few more to fill out the rouge's gallery for my players.

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>>49310214
How about Darth RefusesToDie?

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>>49311055
>I have a few candidates already selected, but I need a few more to fill out the rouge's gallery for my players.

>>49311106
You joke but he's already on the list.
>>49311087
But would Sheev want him back ?

>>49310214
>"Darth Donte"
top kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s

>>49311140
>But would Sheev want him back ?
Of course not, nobody wants Darth Maul back.

>>49310214
Mara Jade would be up next.
She was pretty much already the Emperor's hidden left hand killing people in secret for Sheevey P. while Darth Vader was busy representing scary space wizards by being a walking warcrime for the public as Palp's right hand man.

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When Comming up with a sith antagonist for... really any SWRPG, how far is going too far?

For example, the idea of, I've heard it described as "a diseased body reflecting a diseased mind" sounds like a cool concept, the notion that the more twisted an evil you become the more it is then reflected onto your person.

And one idea I had for a sith lord "Darth Dominus" to have his embrace of the dark side manifest in a way reflective of a Wendigo, with pale skin, an emaciated-looking body, large yellow eyes that frequently weep blood, and no lips, instead a scar around his mouth suggesting that is lips were at some point ripped or possibly chewed off. the "cold" so often associated with sith is so palpable around him that it leaves frost in his wake.

But with that said, I also recognize that this is still star wars and as such want to know if this character's image is much for the setting?

>>49311202
Amazing how much more likable he looks with that small change.

>>49311349
Star Wars has had, canonically:

>person damaged beyond belief literally held together by the Force, in constant agony
>impregnation by the Force
>a robot with a beating heart quad-wielding lightsabers against a full-on Jedi and holding his own


Only one of those is no longer canon and I'm far from a Star Wars expert. Maybe I wouldn't go with frost, but it fits your guy and is far from ~craaaaazy~ force shenanigans

>>49311302
Along with the other Hands.
In Legends, Sheev Doggy Dogg had multiple Hands, none of whom knew about the others' existence.

>>49311202
the players unintentionally created a force bond with him. The closer Darth Donte was to them, the louder I'd play Never Surrender in the background to give them that sensation.
>>49311291
Of course
>>49311302
Didn't consider this, but now that I think about it, Mara would be the next one Sheev would pick.What's a good Darth name for her ?

>>49311724
>What's a good Darth name for her
>implying Best Girl needs a Darth name to be scary
That kimd of overt action ain't Mara's style. She's more the "infiltrate and destroy from within" type.

>>49311302
Speaking of Dark Side Redheads, there's also Lady Lumiya.

And Blackhole

Jerec's a good choice because he's on the competent side of moustache-twirling. Trioculus is a good choice because of just the opposite

Sedriss is a solid choice if you want somebody strong in the Force and fanatically loyal to the Emperor.

Iceheart's probably happier doing the whole "secret police" thing from the Lusankya.

Oh, and Baron Tagge was trying real hard to make Vader look bad so he could take his place.

Shit, there's a big list of potential candidates eager to fill Vader's boots.

>>49311845
Yeah. I suppose that makes sense

>>49311864
Add Thrawn and Mohc and you have my list.

>>49311724
Mara wouldn't have a darth name... like anon says. But if she did, I think it would be Darth Nemesis. Divine retribution (that is, Sheev's retribution)

Shame nemesis sounds so fucking goofy now though. Thanks obama/star trek

>>49312311
Well, if I was lame, I could just have it be Darth Jade. But anon is right, even if she had the title she'd never use it herself.

>>49311485
Kotor is still canon.

>>49312519
Last I heard it wasn't. What happened?

>>49312538
Nothing.
Kotor fanboys desperately want their shit to be exempted from the wipe, but it's not.

>>49312519
Oh shit nice, I thought it was wiped.

>>49312573
I haven't even finished either KotOR. Hell I've played about an hour of the second one I think.

>>49312610
>I thought it was wiped
It was.
Kotor fans have latched on to the whole "Scourge of Malachor" thing as if it recanonized kotor entire. That's not how it works.

>>49307858
The way X-Wing works is you have upgrade cards in various categories. Stuff like torpedoes, new skills, ship mods, etc. One type of upgrade is the Title cards, giving your ship additional abilities.
It's the difference between having the Millenium Falcon and a generic YT-1300.
The Jumpmaster 5000 set includes the Punishing One title, but it's possible to put any pilot in a generic Jumpmaster, including Dengar. There are also generic notDengar pilots if you prefer.
The choice of equiping the title is yours (Punishing One title is hella good but hella expensive)

>>49310214
Keep in mind just because Vader is dead doesn't mean Sheev's new apprentice will take Vaders role in the Imperial hierarchy. I would consider it pretty unlikely actually since Vaders entire shtick is being a "loyalist" jedi to Palpatine. The only other could who could fit the role of both Sith apprentice and being a public figure would probably be Jerec, and he's too ambitious, most likely.

So you need to fill the role of Vader as a sith apprentice (prospective members include Jade, Jerec, Lumiya, Kadann, Maarek Steele, Arden Lyn, Cronal/Blackhole and ofc ourse Sheev could probably just clone up Anakin/Mace/whoever the fuck he wants with the DNA banks from the Temple) and then you need to replace him as the head of the Imperial military, where replacements would be drawn (mostly) from the non force aspect, such as Thrawn, Zaarin, Oshald Teshik, Zsinj, Tarkin, Ardus Kaine, and so on, and so on). nicely set up for political infighting and intrigue

Don't forget Sheev could just say fuck it and not get an apprentice and just stick with having a shit ton of dark side non sith servants since he thinks of himself as the Sith'aari or whatever

>>49312765
Steele's sensitivity wasn't discovered until fairly late in the GCW.

>>49312765
Declann! Declann would work!

He's both a dark sider and a grand admiral!

>>49312765
well the main driving force in this semi coldwar is that one faction is the dark side acolytes want to be Sheev's apprentice and the moffs/generals who think the next guy incharge shouldn't be the next space wizard in line and a person with real experience

>>49312904
Declann would definitely work, didn't mention him since he's such a moody guy. Would need some serious training/disciplining. Nothing preventing him from being depicted differently, or just coming up with a force sensitive General/Admiral OC donut steehle

>>49313062
>>49313023

Then maybe Declann is the split the difference between both groups.

>>49312765
Vader was still publicly supposed to be a Jedi?

>>49313241
uuuh... Remember episode four dear anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzs-OvfG8tE

>Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
>Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fort-...
>motti getting force choked

>>49313273
While "Jedi" isn't mentioned in this clip, Tarkin later refers to Vader as the last Jedi.

>>49313273
>>49313300
Huh... I guess it does help Sheev paint the Jedi as a bunch of overzealous hotheads, just Vader's good cause he serves the Empire's cause while the rest went traitor.

>>49313273
>>49313300
To be fair, what the high commanding officers at the most important military site in all of the empire knows isn't necessarily the same as what the general public knows.

>>49313300
Yes, you are right. And from a meta point of view, the expression sith isn't mentioned once in the original trilogy
I can't seem to find a link right now but the quote in question is:
>Tarkin to Vader, upon Vader mentioning a familiar presence (obi wan)
The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

The big question is, was the emperor ever openly known to be a force user? I can't remember if this ever came up in the movies.

>>49305465
hopefully never

a spooky unknown regions invasion is still neato, but i'd prefer like, the First Order using the debris of some failed invading alien armada they found out there to leap forward in technology, etc.

the vong are just too stupid to live

>>49313378
Based purely on the originals, it seems to have been a secret kept tightly amongst his closest advisors. Add in the prequels and the secrecy levels surrounding his force power status is reinforced further. People think he's just a kindly old geezer from Naboo.

>>49313343
'Sith' didn't come up until Phantom Menace and related material, of which you can actually count the comics coming out at the time and KOTOR games as apart of. If I remember right, Sheev in Dark Empire related material was labelled as a 'Dark Jedi Master'.

Not far from the truth though, Sheev practically didn't give a shit about the Rule of Two or the Sith as a whole once he became Emperor. He just wanted to rule forever now that he had everything he wanted.

>>49313411
I think even post-fall of the Empire, Sheev being a Sith would be seen as propaganda even by the common people of the Galaxy. You'd have pro-rebellion people going 'sure he was a tyrant, but do we have to prop him up to be an evil magical wizard too?'

>>49312687
Ok now I"m confused. I know that pretty much everything except the films got wiped. What's the Scourge of Malachor thing?

>>49313441
Yeah. And can you imagine how people would react to accusations of Sheev having orchestrated the entire clone wars, if luke revealed info from his holocron/writings (see jedi handbook, leegnds)? there would be a real "come on guys, be realistic" reaction

>>49313402
I really hate the idea of extragalactic spooky invasions because after Mass Effect they've been overdone and over saturated in literally every single science fiction mode. Even fucking Star Trek's having Mirror Universe invasions over in STO. Sure Star Wars started it up with the Yuuzhan Vong War, and I'm one of the few that actually liked the NJO but no, I don't want it redone. I'd love to see more post-Vong War novels set in the Legends Universe, but I wouldn't want them going over the actual Yuuzhan Vong Invasion once more.

>>49313476
Well, mass effect was basicly ripping off the extragalactic/UNKNOWN regions invasion from star wars so...

There's room for it, just not Vong.

>>49313469
>accusations of Sheev having orchestrated the entire clone wars
Was that ever revealed in-universe post-Endor in Legends? I don't remember.

>>49313510
Nah, it's done and done. I liked it the first time, one of the few around here that did, but the whole extragalactic invasion's been so oversaturated I don't want it repeated. MAYBE in like 20-30 years when the Vong War's just a forgotten memory.

>>49313531
I believe the rebels were not exactly hiding it, but I don't know if they had proof.

In the Empire/Rebellion comics they told the stranded Clone Trooper "Well, your fellow clones won the war, but then were used to destroy the republic"

>>49305068
>Stat your Shipfu for Armada
Tartan Corvette

Title: Battler - You may exhaust this card to flip a die with accuracy to a damage side.
Title: Diadem - You may exhaust this card to re-roll one blank die when attacking a squadron.

4 Hull.
2 shield all around.
Front arc: 2 red and 1 black dice (I-Class)1 red, 1 black and 1 blue (II-Class).
Side arcs: 1 red, 2 blue.
Rear arc: 1 red (I-Class) 1 blue (II-Class).
Anti-squa: 1 red, 1 black (I-Class) 1 blue, 1 black (II-Class).

1 Command 1 Squadron 2 Engineering.
2 evade 1 redirect.

Officer, weapons team, offensive retrofit, turbo-lasers.

Speed
x x x I
x x II I
x II I I
I I - -
1 2 3 4

Cost would be somewhere between 39-50.

Basically a CR90 and a Raider fucked and had a child.

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What's a good place to get solid canon material about Star Wars ships? Going to a tournament this weekend, and it has been made very clear that I won't be able to bring non-canon ships or pilots.

I generally fly Defenders and Phantoms. Help.

>>49313617
Go on Wookieepedia, search for a starship and check if it has a canon tab.

>>49313617
I think you can figure it out pretty quickly by looking ships/pilots up on wookipedia.

>>49313638
Wookipedia: if it has Canon / Legends tabs, it is canon. If it does not, it's either only Legends or only Canon. Check out it's first appearance (should be at the bottom of most articles) to figure out which it is.

"The TIE/D Defender was a starfighter used by the Galactic Empire. This fighter was capable of firing missiles that detonated over a moderate area, causing high damage to enemy defenses.[2]"

Thanks!

No luck on the Phantom though. Not to mention the pilots.

>>49313617
>it has been made very clear that I won't be able to bring non-canon ships or pilots.
Wut?

>>49313617
>>49313721
What sort of tournament is this? Do they also forbid you from running Biggs and Poe in the same list?

>>49313751
It's a store tournament. The owner has strong opinions.

>>49313826
Ouch. If that's the only place around running x-wing tourneys, tough luck.

>>49313855
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know this is more of a /v/ question but how is empire at war?

>>49313826
Out of curiosity, does he also refuse to stock non-canon ships?

>>49313826
That doesn't sound like something FFG would be too happy about. If he's running his own tournament, obviously there's no recourse, but if he's using a tournament kit you might want to ring them up.

>>49313826
Are all tournaments like that or is it just one of the "flavor" tournaments?

>>49313913
No, he's fine with selling them. Legends books not so much, but he'll generally sell anything.

>>49313826
He sounds like the worst kind of store owner imaginable. Hope you buy from elsewhere.

>>49313942
It's the first one.

I'm half inclined to get one of those Triocolus t-shirt designs from the last thread printed. Doubt he'd get the reference though

>>49313826
I actually have trouble believing this, he's the only game in town right?

>>49313996
Man...its one thing to prefer NuCanon, but for him to literally be the "Your Canon Is Dead, Son," guy in real life is a real dick move.

>>49314004
He's the only dedicated game store in the area. But up until now I've only played round other people's houses so he's been safe to ignore. I'm aching for a proper tournament but I'm starting to really doubt it's worth humouring him

>>49314102
Are any of the folks you play with also playing in the tournament? How do they feel about it?

>>49313617
The intereting thing about this, is it causes a lot of issues with running specific ships. For example, on the canon HWK-290 (for either Rebel or Scum), your only "canon" pilots are Spice Runners and Rebel Operatives. Yet the ship itself is canon. The same thing happens with other ships, like the Tie Defender... Only the generics are actually "canon". Indeed the Empire gets hurt the most by this, as a vast majority of their canon ships have no legit canon ace pilots (such as Interceptors, Defenders, Tie/FOs and Bombers).

Interestingly enough, this also adversely affects Scum in a really bizarre way. It's well known that all 6 of the bounty-hunters that showed up in Empire Strikes Back are canon, and accepted knowledge that each of them (barrin 4-Lom) had their own ship(s). Yet per official canon, only Slave-1 and the Hounds Tooth can be used (Hounds Tooth having appeared in Clone Wars). This also means that all Scyks, Kihraxz, Starviper, and Scum Z-95 (even generics), are all off limits.

In short, sounds like the store owner wants to limit it to Rebels/Resistance, remove the "pilots I dun't like", and curb-stomp Scum and Empire out of the competition.

I was here in a earlier thread asking for stats on a Dynamic Class light freighter (Same model as the Ebon Hawk) and a friendly fella said he'd stat it.

I lost the thread so I don't know if he ever came through, did anyone see it?

>>49313617
>>49314225
So Fat Han is the best list to run under these rules right?

>>49313617
>What's a good place to get solid canon material about Star Wars ships?

Another store where they aren't retarded.

>>49314259
Not necessarily... "Canon" has a lot of leeway with Rebels, and you could still end up against B-Wings or TLT Y-Wings en mass (which can, and will, fuck over Fat Han). Biggs of course will probably be prevalent, due to this guy's own derpt lack of foresight. And so something like the VCX with Biggs, and Chewie riding shotgun for Ezra in the shuttle, is all fucking canon.

>>49314225
Also, is Tycho "canon"?
He HAS been identified as one of the A-Wing pilots in tge briefing in RotJ, and as the second A-Wing to peel off during the superstructure run.

>>49314123
A few of us are considering gritting our teeth and bearing it. The rest are either busy, indifferent to tournaments in the first place, or sufficiently pissed off about the limitation that they won't be going.

It would actually be pretty funny if nobody showed up.

>>49304802
Yeah, TIE fighters might as well just have regular blaster rifles glued to them in Rebels.

>>49300109
>>49304802
>>49314638
Same for the Ghost, it barely tickled an AT-AT with proton torpedoes AND couldn't even kill those stupid spider things that were barely bigger than a person.

>>49314571
That's Old Canon. I don't think that counts anymore.

Though they were quick to recanonize General Cracken from ROTJ.

Then again, Rogue Squadron has a significant base among Legends fans, so re-introducing them would be a double-edged sword and you'd need to bring back Stackpole or have Allston's ghost possess somebody to help ease them back in.

My friend keeps pressuring me to go to a game store with him to play X-Wing, but I really don't want to. It's a 30 min drive and of course I have to drive because he doesn't like the highway. Plus there always seems to be a bunch of weirdo neckbeards at these stores. Maybe I'm the weirdo, but I always end of cringing when he takes to me to these stores. Also, I just don't feel ready to fight other players because my friend always wins against me. I don't want to drive to this store only to lose even worse. Wat do /swg/? Suck it up and go and try not to cringe?

>>49314710
>AND couldn't even kill those stupid spider things that were barely bigger than a person
That was so stupid. Can't the writers figure out how to make intimidating creatures without always resolving to make them blasterproof?

>>49314571
Unfortunately, he falls into "Legends". Along with Horton Salm, who was originally the Y-Wing that peeled off in RotJ. Wes is canon, because Wedge specifically calls him out saying "Nice shot, Jenkins!". And of course Luke, Jek, Biggs, and Garven Dreis are all canon (Garven being "Pops", or Red Leader in ANH). But so many of the other pilots aren't.

>>49314744
I'm in a somewhat similar position. Up until now I've only played with a friend and I have a total of two wins against his 7-9 (I haven't kept count), I know there's a game store that run X-wings, but I've been hesitant to go there for the reason of sucking so badly. Also, /tg/-stories of the terrible people that dwells in game stores have kinda scared me off.

Still, my advice to both of us is that at least try it once. Right now I'm just looking to have the time for it.

>>49314865

Jake get's a second of screentime doesn't he?

>>49314571
>>49314865
Wasn't there one pilot seen in the Rebels Season 3 preview that sorta-looked like Tycho?

>>49314913
Iirc, Wedge is rumored to be showing up in S3. If they bring Tycho in, that'd be pure sex.

>>49314744
You could always have him pay you for the gas mileage so you get some compensation out of it.

As for playing other people, go to have fun and see what other kinds of builds people are playing. I went to my first store tournament last month, didn't know anybody and got wrecked in every game. Still had fun though, since I saw what needed to be tweaked in my lists and the neckbeards were the friendly kind of weird.

>>49314865
Hobbie's canon too, thanks to Luke talking to him at Hoth. So's Arvel and *think* Ten Nunb (since he's in the briefing). YT-2400 generics are too (not Dash & Leebo, though)

>>49314887

Honestly it might be fine. You have no idea who's going to turn up at whatever LGS until you actually go.
I've had tournements with mouthbreathers, I've had other store tourneys where everyones been really nice and generally helpful.
I've played against player who clearly haven't found the wherewithal to even clean themselves this morning.
I've also had players who are really nice talkative people who also beat me like a drum every time because they do the full national tournement scene.

And that last one was in a small podunk 10 man tournement in a store barely bigger than my room.

You don't know until you try.

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>>49313617
>>49314225
Well if he wants to be a dick about it, be a dick right back.

Bossk:
VI, Homing Missile, 4-Lom, Zuckuss, Dengar, ID, GC
Boba Fett:
PtL, Gonk, Glitterstim, Seismic Charge, EU

You can't get a more canon list than that with Scum, with both Bossk and Boba's ships being canon. Even the goddamn Gonk droid shows up several times. Glitterstim is the only thing.

I've had really good success with it against a variety of lists.

Alternatively just run 8 tie fighters. That would also work if you know how to fly it.

If you want a canon Imperial Aces Squad:

==================
[Unnamed Squadron]
==================

Click to change squadron details

100 points

Pilots
------

Darth Vader [TIE/x1, Proton Rockets, Adaptability, Engine Upgrade, Advanced Targeting Computer] (37)

The Inquisitor [Push the Limit, Proton Rockets, TIE/v1, Autothrusters] (34)

Omicron Group Pilot [Emperor Palpatine] (29)

Kick ass with multiple proton rockets.

>>49314897
In the briefing room. Along with Keyan Farlander, Tycho, and more. Technically however, that is because many of those characters were written and made to look like pilots in the briefing room well after RotJ. Those actors and extras are now post-credited for those roles, when originally they were just "pilot 6 in background shot".

>>49315015
Man, it pissed me off something fierce in TFA when they didn't store their TIE/SFs in racks.

All that wasted hangar space...

>>49314855
I don't mind making them immune to hand basters, they just should have left the Ghost out of the fight to keep it intense.

>>49314942
It's Wedge with Biggs/Hobbie's "Defector" background.

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>>49314744
You want to beat your friend? Play people better than him and learn the tricks and builds that they use. When I first started playing I lost a lot. My first tournament I went 1-4. Two years later I'm one of the best players in my region.

Playing X-wing is a skill like any other. Practice more and you get better. Keep playing the same friends and you'll probably stay about where you are.

>>49314897
Yes he does. The old guy who peels off in DSII.

Pity Arvel isn't a better pilot, he's the most canon A-wing.

>>49315143
Iv'e wanted to try Arvel with Intimidation some time. I doubt it'd be all that effective on it's own considering you wouldn't get an focus/target lock to go with the attack, but if if you want someone for ace-blocking I can't think of a better (small) ship to do it.

>>49314865
Actually he says "Nice shot, Janson!", keep your eye on the autocorrect there.

What if Porkins was the bad guy.

>>49315363
I actually don't use auocorrect. I live dangeroubly. Don't know why I thought Wes' last name was Jenkins... Must be a long day.

>>49315502
Gamorrheans

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>>49313462

The Planet of Malachor is a play on Malachor V from Kotor 2. Showed up in Star Wars Rebels recently, and before that was mentioned in a reference book as the origin of Kylo Ren's lightsaber design.

Kotor ship designs have begun showing up in Rebels and mobile games.

So, because more of the people who hear Star Wars don't have very high reading comprehension, they see these images and assume Every, Single, Aspect of Kotor is now canon, even though *every* interview that states "we used the design and name, but its a nod, not a validation."

>>49304722
Make him somewhat dependent on another ace being present. He grew out of his crappy flying by being backed by Corran.

>>49315518

Was it the actor who played Wes or Hobbie the one with the distinction of being the only actor to play both a gunner and the pilot he's shooting at?

>>49315680
Ok yeah that makes sense. And it makes sense for Star Wars fans too.
Personally, if it's not directly contradicted, I'd use technically not canon stuff in the RPG or as fluff names, but I don't see how folks would argue that it IS canon when people said it.

>>49315687
>his crappy flying
I wouldn't call it that.
He's good, he's just the least badass Rogue when he starts out.
That's like taking last in a race at the olympics, you're clearly still very good, it's jist that everyone around you is better.

>>49315687
>If ~~ is at range 1-2 of another unique friendly pilot before attacking he may take a free foucus or boost manoeuvrer.

Represents listening and taking advice or rushing on ahead. Don't know my X-wing wording very well so I don't know if "Before attacking" is correct for something to be done as his initiative comes up the the attacking step but before any attacks are declared.

>>49305465
I really hope they don't. That being said, a few good things from the EU that I want to see are:

>KOTOR
obviously
>Lusankya
I just love the idea of Wedge being the captain of a Super Star Destroyer.
>Pellaeon.
I know that Thrawn is back, but we have yet to hear if Pellaeon is getting re-canonized as well.
>Talon Karrde.
I have a soft spot for the bastard.
>Dash! *dun-dun-dun-dun* AAAAAAAAHHH, Savior of the Galaxy!
Since we are never getting Kyle Katarn back, we can at least hope and pray that we get Dash Rendar back.

>>49316304

There is a YT-2400 prominent in the Rebels S3 trailer, at points. So, could be a chance to drop in a Not!Han.

>>49316304
>>KOTOR
I just hope that if KOTOR does get recanonized, we get properly archaic ship and tech designs this time around instead of slightly redrawn OT/PT stuff. Also, Zayne Carrick. Revan and the Exile ain't shit compared to his magnificence.

>>49316550
I liked the blaster rifles in KOTOR, very cool sorta pentagonal front panel and the various pipey bits around the barrel.

>>49316615
my personal favorite blaster is the rebel dh17

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>>49316689
I prefer the DL-18 or the EE-3

>>49316802
>>49316689

DC-17m for me. Can't go wrong with those attachments, ner vod.

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>>49315762

Sure, its an RPG game. I use Admiral Daala, Zorba the Hutt, and the ancient Mandalorian crusaders as aspects of my game. But just because one episode of Clone Wars had the Neo-Crusaders, I don't expect all aspects of the Mandalorian Crusaders are now canon.

>>49316522
A YT-2400 is also seen blasting off from Mos Eisely in ANH special edition. It's technically unspecified as to whether or not it's the Outrider, but it does match the describer paint scheme.

>>49316522
>>49316910
I have never read anything involving Dash, but I'm a fan simply because he's such a fun pilot in X-wing.

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Speaking of guns, what other real world firearms would look neat blasterized? And does anyone have that image of a Mon Cal carrying a BAR? Not even decked out in space gubbins, just a regular old BAR.

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>>49316933
He's spotlighted in the Shadows of the Empire video game and had a kickass action figure. He's got a few other smaller appearances here and there (I think he pops back up in the NJO/Legacy Era, and has a cameo near the end of the Han Solo Trilogy)

The problem with Dash Rendar is that he's a brash, hotshot Corellian smuggler with a YT freighter and sassy copilot filling in for a brash, hotshot Corellian smuggler with a YT freighter and a sassy copilot.

On the bright side, if they ever do reintroduce him, they've got a lot of leeway to flesh him out as a character

>>49316933
The only piece he shows up in, was the multimedia project that was Shadows of the Empire. He is (one of) the main character(s) in the novel, and is revealed to have been a smuggling buddy of Han's. He was at Hoth, and helped the Rebels escape, but soon after took off on his own. A lot of the story is supposed to deal with the events between Empire and RotJ, so after killing one of the IGs (iirc, it's B), he hooks back up with Luke, and Lando, to rescue Leia from Xizor and Black Sun. Xizor, and the Black Sun syndicate, are the main antagonists throughout the story, with the Empire being an overarching threat that Xizor is trying to pull a fast one on. In the end, Xizor's plan goes to shit because of "our heroes/heroine", Xizor is killed in his (iirc) skyhook orbital platform by Vader, Guri escapes in the Virago (?), and Dash fakes his own astroid-crashing death so he can avoid Black Sun coming after him, as well as the Empire.

>>49316933
Dash Rendar is Han Solo with a fresh coat of paint. If they weren't both active in the same part of the timeline, you could change the names and say they were the same guy and nobody would argue it.

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>>49316933

He's Ginger Han w/out the "heart of gold."

Leebo is his droll copilot droid. Honestly though, in the novel he's a asshole bit-player, though his Yt-2400 is described as being chromed up.

Now, if you grew up playing the Shadows of the Empire N64/PS1/or PC game, then you'll know him as the guy who just happens to be places in the best non-Kyle Katarn way possible.


Btw, the PC version is on sale for $3 right now, about the price of a used paperback of Shadows of the Empire. https://www.gog.com/game/star_wars_shadows_of_the_empire

>>49313441
The word "Sith" was actually first used in the original novelization of A New Hope - as in, the one that came out six months before the original movie did.

So that word has been a part of the Star Wars mythos for as long as Star Wars has existed in the public eye, but no one really knew what they were - only that Vader was a Dark Lord of them.

>>49317093
Yeah that is ultimately the biggest problem with Dash as he stands right now. "Han-Lite" is a perfect descriptor for him. And the only real differences in character is that Dash has a droid as a copilot, a newer (sleeker) YT frigate with big ass fucking heavy laser cannons, and he doesn't owe a debt to Jabba.

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>>49316878
they showed up in the mando throne room as well.

TCW/Rebels seems to be steadily releasing bits and pieces of old mando lore back into canon.

>>49317145
Mandalore the Huge there seems really weirded out by the guy with the long neck

>>49315762
It's especially weird because they explicitly laid out what was canon and what wasn't TWO YEARS AGO. They literally said "only Episodes I-VI and the Clone Wars CGI series and film and forthcoming material is considered canon, everything else is Legends."

>>49317166
The only thing more sad than the random bitterfags who are angry their one pet part of the EU hasn't been recanonized (yet, in many cases) are the ones who are still in denial.

>>49317145
I think they've started to fully go in their own direction now. Conflicts with Jedi and similar looks seems to be the most brought back. Season 3 of Rebels is gonna have a shit ton of Mando stuff though. I'm sure some stuff will make to back, though I've also heard they're going to give them a GoT houses spin.

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I don't like all of Ansel's models, but most of these are pretty damn good.

>>49317063
>The problem with Dash Rendar is that he's a brash, hotshot Corellian smuggler with a YT freighter and sassy copilot filling in for a brash, hotshot Corellian smuggler with a YT freighter and a sassy copilot.
He's more of a direct combat thug than Han though.

>>49317107
I thought the PC version worked poorly?

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>>49317487

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>>49317487
>>49317506
>Dat Delta Class Shuttle

>>49313062
In the campaign I'm playing in, Takel actually turned out to be Force Sensitive, the drugs being a cover cooked up by his brother to hide him from the inquisitors. Apparently Sheev knew, and specifically made him a Grand Admiral just to piss off the Inquisitors (though Takel's aptitude for Foresee and general grasp on strategy certainly helped too). He hated Sheev, but obviously that wouldn't have to apply.

He's so well played I forget that in old canon he was basically a high-ranking space druggie bum who was casually executed by Hissa for being a whiny bitch.

>>49317487
>>49317506
>>49318114
I don't like letting it keep its cockpit-side lasers like that.

It really should rely on the three heavy lasers and rear turbos.

>>49315518
I dont blame you at all. For the longest time I thought it was jackson

>>49314595
Arrange a fun tournament with people, in that store, using all ships. For maximum store rage.

>>49315687
I've got him wanting to be teamed with Asyr Sei'lar (PS7), who's current working ability is when a friendly ship at range-1 is attacking or defending, they may re-roll a blank if they're stressed, but I'm not sure if it fits with here character from the books.

My idea for him is that he risks much harder to try scoring kills to impress his teammates, but stresses if/when it backfires. The direct dependency on a teammate is a good idea, I might try coming up with things that start off "if a friendly ship is at range-1...(you may re-roll a blank) ("

>>49318688
perhaps something like. when attacking a ship that has already been the target of an attack this phase you may reroll 1 or 2 dice.

so he's good when he teams up with someone, but only if they're an ace (attacking before him). so he's wasted as the big guy in a squad of generics.

>>49317487

I had to re-jigger the controls, but it works fine for me.

Some nostalgia-goggles make the game better than it is, but $3 was worth it to me.

Not schilling. I just love the old games, Xwing Alliance, Dark Forces, and Galactic Battlegrounds.

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>>49317228
I actually love the nucanon, because it's sorta able to look at the whole old EU and filter the bullshit down into good characters/ships/worlds/ideas that fit together into a more cohesive design universe, if that makes any sense.

also the Ghost is a cool looking ship, so I was already sold on their ability to make stuff look Classic Starwars

ugh FUCk i kinda want to get Battlefront just out of boredom

Do people still play it or is it just awful spergs with names like Greedochan_69

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>>49307630
Not enough of them died getting the plans, if you ask me.

>>49307642
You'll not make me break character, no sir!

>>49312834
Does anyone know if Steele ever got himself a lightsaber? I need to know because reasons.

>>49319459
Fuck that shoretrooper armour is sexy.

>>49319540
There's always Battlefront II

>>49319584
yeah, but is it as visually slick as BF

Man those old games kick so much ass, but holy fuck their UI and designs are so hit or miss sometimes
>Tie Fighter
>Amazing Game
>Flawless
>Parts of the hub station and the HUD are hideous and barely feel starwarsy at all

it's a very specific sort of suffering

>>49319632
HD Tie Fighter with a sexy minimalist UI would make me rock hard for years

>New Order pilot
>Unknown Regions Ops

I mean cmon this shit is just waiting for it

>>49319700
We need a dedicated neckbeard with no life and infinite housing at mums to build this for free, and get shut down by Lucas Arts... Not unlike what happened with Metroid 2.

>>49316802
Does liking the DL-44 make me basic?

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>>49316689
Bryar pistol needs to be recannonized

>>49313476
>>49313510
>They don't know about the Tyranid's, circa 1992

>>49314231
that was me. I'm got something that I'm reasonably sure is the flu, so I was out of it for a while. here it is, hope you get it before the thread dies

STAR WARS EoTE Ship Stats:

Dynamic-class Light Freighter

Silhouette: 4
Speed: 2
Handling: -2
Def: 1/1
Armor: 4
HT threshold: 30
SS threshold: 14

Hull Type/Class: Light Freighter/ Dynamic
Manufacturer: Core Galaxy Systems
Hyperdrive: Primary: Class 3
Navicomputer: Yes
Sensor Range: Medium
Ship's complement: One Pilot, One Co-pilot, Two Gunners
Encumberence Capacity: 120
Passenger Capacity: Four Passangers
Consumables: Two Months
Cost/Rarity: 80,000 credits/5(10)
Customization Hardpoints: 4
Weapons:
One Dorsal and One Ventral Twin Light Archeic Turbolaser Turrets
[Fire Arc All; Damage 7; Critical 4; Breach 1; Slow-Firing 2; Range [Medium]; Linked 1]

One Port and One Starboard Twin Archaic Heavy Laser Cannon Turrets
[Fire Arc Port or Starboard; Damage 6; Critical 5; Slow-Firing 1; Range [Short]; Linked 1 ]

>>49320480
Stat the Bryar Pistol/Rifle for Eote guys!

>>49317114

Fun fact: Zahn originally called the Noghri "Sith" because he figured it would be a cool way to explain Vader's "lord of the Sith" title until Lucas vetoed him.

>>49305068
Ghtroc 720
Move 2
Hull 8
Anti Squad: 3 blue
Anti Ship: 2 blue
Grit
Escort
16 points

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>>49320480
We Kyle Katarn now

>>49322532
Thread rebirth
>>49322532
Thread rebirth
>>49322532
Thread rebirth
>>49322532
Thread rebirth