/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest

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12th of September in military history:

490 BC – Battle of Marathon: The conventionally accepted date for the Battle of Marathon. The Athenians and their Plataean allies, defeat the first Persian invasion force of Greece.
1185 – Emperor Andronikos I Komnenos brutally put to death in Constantinople.
1213 – Albigensian Crusade: Simon de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester, defeats Peter II of Aragon at the Battle of Muret.
1229 – Battle of Portopí: The Aragonese army under the command of James I of Aragon disembarks at Santa Ponça, Majorca, with the purpose of conquering the island.
1309 – The First Siege of Gibraltar takes place in the context of the Spanish Reconquista pitting the forces of the Kingdom of Castile against the Emirate of Granada resulting in a Castilian victory.
1683 – Austro-Ottoman War: Battle of Vienna – several European armies join forces to defeat the Ottoman Empire.
1814 – Battle of North Point: an American detachment halts the British land advance to Baltimore in the War of 1812.
1847 – Mexican–American War: the Battle of Chapultepec begins.
1897 – Tirah Campaign: Battle of Saragarhi.
1942 – World War II: RMS Laconia, carrying civilians, Allied soldiers and Italian POWs is torpedoed off the coast of West Africa and sinks with a heavy loss of life.
1942 – World War II: First day of the Battle of Edson's Ridge during the Guadalcanal Campaign. U.S. Marines protecting Henderson Field on Guadalcanal are attacked by Imperial Japanese Army forces.
1943 – World War II: Benito Mussolini, dictator of Italy, is rescued from house arrest on the Gran Sasso in Abruzzi, by German commando forces led by Otto Skorzeny.

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It is 333 years since the Battle of Vienna, which took place after the Imperial city of Vienna had been besieged by the Ottoman Empire for two months. The battle was fought by the Habsburg Monarchy, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Holy Roman Empire, under the command of King John III Sobieski against the invading Muslim Ottoman Empire and its vassal and tributary states, and took place at Kahlenberg Mountain near Vienna. The Viennese garrison was led by Ernst Rüdiger Graf von Starhemberg, an Austrian subject of Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I. The battle marked the first time Poland and the Holy Roman Empire had cooperated militarily against the Turks, and it is often seen as a turning point in history, after which "the Ottoman Turks ceased to be a menace to the Christian world".

The opposing military forces were commanded by Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha. The Ottoman army numbered approximately 90,000–300,000 men (according to documents on the order of battle found in Kara Mustafa's tent, initial strength at the start of the campaign was 170,000 men). They began the siege on 14 July 1683. The Turkish forces consisted, among other units, of 60 ortas of Janissaries (12,000 men paper-strength) with an observation army of c. 70,000 men watching the countryside. The decisive battle took place on 11 September, after the united relief army had arrived.

Historians suggest the battle marked the turning point in the Ottoman–Habsburg wars, a 300-year struggle between the Holy Roman and Ottoman Empires. In fact, during the 16 years following the battle, the Austrian Habsburgs gradually recovered and dominated southern Hungary and Transylvania, which had been largely cleared of Turkish forces. The battle is also noted for including the largest known cavalry charge in history.

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>>49292030
The battle started before all units were fully deployed. At 4:00 am, the Ottomans attacked, seeking to interfere with the deployment of the Holy League troops. Charles of Lorraine moved forward with the Imperial army on the left and the other Imperial forces in the center and, after heavy fighting, took several key positions. By noon the Imperial army had already severely mauled the Turks and come close to breakthrough. Though shattered, the Ottoman army did not crumble at that moment.

Mustafa Pasha launched his counterattacks with most of his force, but held back some of the elite Janissary and Sipahi units for a simultaneous assault on the city. The Ottoman commanders had intended to take Vienna before Sobieski arrived, but time ran out. Their sappers had prepared a large, final detonation under the Löbelbastei to breach the walls. In total, ten mines were set to explode but they were located by the defenders and disarmed.

In the early afternoon a large battle started on the other side of the battlefield as the Polish infantry advanced on the Ottoman right flank. Instead of concentrating on the battle with the relief army, the Ottomans continued their efforts to force their way into the city. Hence, the Poles could make good progress, and by 4:00 pm they had taken the village of Gersthof, which would serve as a base for their massive cavalry charge. The Ottomans were in a desperate position, between the Polish and Imperial forces. Charles of Lorraine and John III Sobieski both decided on their own to resume the offensive and finish off the enemy.

The Imperials resumed the offensive on the left front at 3:30 pm. At first they encountered fierce resistance and were stopped. This did not last long, however, and by 5:00 pm they had made further gains and were now very close to the central Turkish position. As they were preparing to storm it, they could see the Polish cavalry in action.

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>>49292038
It is recorded that the Polish cavalry slowly emerged from the forest to the cheers of the onlooking infantry, which had been anticipating their arrival. At 4:00 pm the Polish hussars first entered into action, battering the Turkish lines. At that point the Turkish vizier decided to leave this position and retreat to his headquarters in the main camp further south. However, by then many Ottomans were already leaving the battlefield.

At around 6:00 pm the Polish king ordered the cavalry attack in four groups, three Polish and one from the Holy Roman Empire. Eighteen thousand horsemen charged down the hills, the largest cavalry charges in history. John III Sobieski led the charge at the head of 3,000 Polish heavy lancers, the famed "Winged Hussars". The Lipka Tatars who fought on the Polish side wore a sprig of straw in their helmets to distinguish themselves from the Tatars fighting on the Ottoman side. The charge easily broke the lines of the Ottomans, who were exhausted and demoralized and soon started to flee the battlefield. The cavalry headed straight for the Ottoman camps and Kara Mustafa's headquarters, while the remaining Viennese garrison sallied out of its defenses to join in the assault.

The Ottoman troops were tired and dispirited following the failure of both the attempt at sapping and the assault on the city and the advance of the Holy League infantry. The cavalry charge was one last deadly blow. Less than three hours after the cavalry attack, the Christian forces had won the battle and saved Vienna. The first Christian officer who entered Vienna was Margrave Ludwig of Baden, at the head of his dragoons. Afterwards Sobieski paraphrased Julius Caesar's famous quotation (Veni, vidi, vici) by saying "Veni, vidi, Deus vicit"--"I came, I saw, God conquered".

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>>49292049
The Ottomans lost at least 20,000 men during the siege, while their losses during the battle with Sobieski's forces amounted to around 15,000 dead and 5,000 captured. Casualties of the allied relief force under Sobieski's command were much smaller, amounting to approximately 3,500 dead and wounded, including 1,300 Poles.

The Holy League troops and the Viennese took a large amount of loot from the Ottoman army, which King John Sobieski vividly described in a letter to his wife a few days after the battle: "Ours are treasures unheard of . . . tents, sheep, cattle and no small number of camels . . . it is victory as nobody ever knew before, the enemy now completely ruined, everything lost for them. They must run for their sheer lives . . . General Starhemberg hugged and kissed me and called me his saviour."

On 25 December 1683, Kara Mustafa Pasha was executed in Belgrade in the approved manner, by strangulation with a silk rope pulled by several men on each end, by order of the commander of the Janissaries.

This is a truly historic battle with a great deal of strategic nuance, calling on every aspect of pike-and-shot warfare. Both armies are exotic and colorful with a diverse range of troops, and there's a real cinematic glory to the whole thing. By Fire And Sword is a dedicated ruleset for the era, curious players should give it a look.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/09mk2fxtj6fma5j/Osprey+-+CAM+191+-+Vienna+1683.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/726f528kk8m0935/Osprey+-+ELI+058+-+The+Janissaries.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/titnik65pjj3mml/Osprey+-+MAA+140+-+Armies+Of+The+Ottoman+Turks+1300-1774.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/47cpmb1x826t4ji/Osprey+-+MAA+188+-+Polish+Armies+1569-1696+%282%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ah2n4ednoxk3rv4/Osprey+-+WAR+094+-+Polish+Winged+Hussar+1576-1775.pdf
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q

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It is 73 years since the raid on Gran Sasso, called Operation Eiche ("Oak"), which was the rescue of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini by German paratroopers led by Major Otto-Harald Mors and Waffen-SS commandos. The airborne operation was personally ordered by Adolf Hitler, planned by Harald Mors, and approved by General Kurt Student.

On the night between 24 and 25 July 1943, a few weeks after the Allied invasion of Sicily and bombing of Rome, the Italian Grand Council of Fascism voted a motion of no confidence against Mussolini. On the same day, the king replaced him with Marshal Pietro Badoglio and had him arrested. Mussolini was being transported around Italy by his captors, while Otto Skorzeny was tracking him.

Intercepting a coded Italian radio message, Skorzeny used the reconnaissance provided by agents and informants to determine that Mussolini was being imprisoned at Campo Imperatore Hotel, a ski resort at Campo Imperatore in Italy's Gran Sasso massif, high in the Apennine Mountains. Skorzeny's 26 SS troopers joined the team of 82 Fallschirmjäger to rescue Mussolini in a high-risk glider mission. The commandos landed their dozen DFS 230 gliders on the mountain; only one crashed, causing minor injuries. The Fallschirmjäger and Skorzeny's special troopers then overwhelmed Mussolini's captors (200 well-equipped Carabinieri guards) without a single shot being fired; this was also due to the fact that General Fernando Soleti of the Polizia, who flew in with Skorzeny, told them to stand down or be executed for treason. Skorzeny attacked the radio operator and his equipment, then he formally greeted Mussolini with "Duce, the Führer has sent me to set you free!", to which Mussolini replied "I knew that my friend would not forsake me!"

Has anyone gave the new Kings of War Historical Armies a go?

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>>49292070
Mussolini was flown from Campo Imperatore to Vienna, where he stayed overnight at the Hotel Imperial and was given a hero's welcome. The operation on the ground at Campo Imperatore was in fact led by First Lieutenant Baron Georg Freiherr von Berlepsch, commanded by Major Otto-Harald Mors and under orders from General Kurt Student, all Fallschirmjäger officers; but Skorzeny stewarded the Italian leader first into Rome and eventually into Berlin, right in front of the cameras. After a pro-SS propaganda coup at the behest of Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler and propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels, Skorzeny and his Special Forces (SS-Sonderverband z. b. V. "Friedenthal") of the Waffen-SS were granted the majority of the credit for the operation. The Friedenthaler of the SS-Reichssicherheitshauptamt were for the Waffen-SS what the Brandenburgers were for the Wehrmacht and Abwehr.

The operation granted a rare late-war public relations opportunity to Hermann Göring. Mussolini was made leader of the Italian Social Republic (a German puppet state consisting of the German-occupied portion of Italy). Otto Skorzeny gained a large amount of success from this mission; he received a promotion to Sturmbannführer, the award of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross and fame that led to his "most dangerous man in Europe" image. Winston Churchill himself described the mission as "one of great daring".

This is an exciting and novel operation that could have gone wrong in a hundred different ways- making it perfect for the tabletop. Refer to PDF related for some gaming tips.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/p8c4tqj3z6336uo/Osprey+-+RAID+009+-+Gran+Sasso+1943.pdf

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Reminder that the August-September /hwg/ community project is a 'Command Unit'. The 15th (I think?) is the last day.

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There, my Command base is done. Hopefully it can also be useful in the actual game as well.
A french Lieutenant with two riflemen as bodyguard.

What is the next community project?

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>>49292144

>What is the next community project?

In the last thread an anon was asking about British army medics, and that got me thinking of the next one perhaps being some kind of medical unit - be it a hospital ship, a healer shaman, a combat nurse, a saw-wielding surgeon, or whatever is appropriate for your style.

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>>49292086
Roll over on the 16th I think.

Ideas for the next project are welcome. Some from the last thread include 'Civilians', 'Wildlife' and 'that-boring-arse-unit-you-can-normally-never-be-bothered-with'.

With a spare weekend and a few days to go until the end of the project, I picked up a Perry AWI commander model to paint up as the leader of my force in the 7YW. I suck at painting faces, think I need a 'redder' undercoat (and to thin my fucking paints and not to drown it in washes). I am really happy with the red by now though, and the yellow is getting better.

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>>49292147
Damn, I just finished my own medic a few days ago.

>>49292144
are they standing in a cloud?

>>49292147
I vote for a terrain project.

>>49292214
Is he standing in desiccated coconut?

>>49292240
Yep. Somebody else already called me out on it, or maybe it was you, but I like how the snow turns out. It's also quite easy to make and apply which is a big plus for me.

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>>49292214

That's a real nice mini anon, has that "running into fire" feel.

Hi, guys. A local shop is setting up DBA 2.2, not 3.0. Please share a PDF if you have it. Thanks!

>>49292155
>Civilians
Yep, that's what I'm voting for.

>>49292214
Paint a casualty.

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>>49292263

In the Ancient/Games folder in the OP

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lfvfani2aevoym/DBA+3.0.pdf

>>49292240
Bitches love desiccated coconut...

I bought a big pack of Woodland Scenics tree armatures and one of fine leaf foliage. There any good online guides for this shit?

>>49292258
wait so its actually desiccated coconut?

Either way I would recommend making a thick paste of flock and PVA, probably 50/50, and applying it - gives a flatter less powdery look, and it will look like their feet are actually sinking in and making marks instead of looking like the snow is being sucked up their legs like some kind of gas. Just a suggestion, I guess you've already done most of your minis like this so it might break consistency, but it gives a much more realistic appearance imo.

>>49292295
Thanks.

How does 3.0 compare to 2.2? My LCS is playing 2.2.

>>49292323
>wait so its actually desiccated coconut?
Nah mate, just that somebody already made that joke.
I use citadel snow mixed with PVA glue 50/50 and then I sprinkle more snow on top when it's on the base. It looks better than anything I've done before so I'm kinda proud, but also realize that I'm not doing it correctly and that it could look better.

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>>49292327

Honestly I couldn't say anon, I ways always a DBM guy.

>>49292370
NP. Thanks again. I'll read it over and maybe we can play 3.0 instead.

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>>49292353
Maybe forgo the extra sprinkles?
Also this is probably personal preference but I always like the side of the bases to be clean, gives a nice border to the miniature as a whole. solid black band around the edge will make the snow pop.

I'm doing a bit of a terrain binge, going to snow flock these tomorrow, will post pics. They look pretty bare now, but the bases will be snow covered, as well as all the upper surfaces.
Trees handmade from wire, hedges cut from a green scouring pad

>>49292284
Me too.

>>49292463
>I always like the side of the bases to be clean
Yeah, me too. It's only very hard not to hit the borders with at least some glue and then when I sprinkle it sticks. But as I said, for me it works.

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So I missed the last thread, and this thread says the 12th, but it's still the 11th for me which means I have my own unusual hwg anniversary.

Whilst reorganising some of my old wip picture folders a few days ago I noticed this. This means on the 11th of September 2014 I posted my first miniatures after what had then been 5 years out of miniature wargaming, and they looked like shit in honesty. You were all very supportive though so now I thought I'd get all that I'd painted since then to show you, and myself, just how much I've done in the last 2 years hobby wise. I also finished the 28mm Indians I've been posting here, so it's a good time to post it all together.

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>>49292897
Since then I've gone up to;
1436 10mm from the Talavera Project (finished)
927 6mm French and Austrian Napoleonics for Club play (ongoing)
38 28mm Indians (not including the casualty figures, finished in principle.)

Takes up a surprising amount of floor space.

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>>49292925
And finally, the finished shots of my FIW Indians. The contrast is making the blackgrey warpaint look like flat black on some of them, but still I'm pretty happy with how they look on balance.

I need to decide on 7 of the grunts to be unit leaders for the M&T rules, so if anyone looks at any and thinks they would make better leaders than the others, and of a good unobtrusive way to mark them out as such I'd love to hear it.

Any other C&C, fire away.

It's been a good 2 years tbf hwg, hope all your projects go well in the next two

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Finished an Italian Lt and Radio Operator

>>49293041
looks good, you can be proud

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>>49292925
Wew lad.

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Looks like I'll not be getting my command unit done.

No ideas as for what to suggest on the next either, as I've got to get on with repairing pikes, magnetising infantry and perhaps building some terrain.

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>>49292261
The lighting in that pic is terrific. Very nice morning look to it

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>>49292310
Coat armatures with glue, add foliage?

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>>49293737
I guessed so, but hey.

Ripped off the general's face and tried again. Not very much better desu...

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>>49292144
>next project

Another idea for a future group project would be finish and build the worst model in your stash.

>>49293981
>a model I have no use for in actual gameplay designed for a diorama which I haven't finished because I hate the casting/sculpt
I'll pass

Is there a fivecore for black powder weapon era

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>>49294014

I don't think so, but there are a number of black powder skirmish games with a focus on characters, that could re-create the feel:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9o59f6dbrqjuv9j/Donnybrook.pdf
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/qlbapdg9qgwwq/Gloire
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5l3hst32y45hn72/Long+Rifle.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwyc1bbgx1y6svq/Sharp+Practice+v2.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c7t9igxo2ce8sif/Song+of+Drums+and+Shakos.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qb44duyit5ewe1x/Song+of+Drums+and+Tomahawks.pdf

>>49294185
Oh lame. None of those rulesets really do what i want. Thanks anyway anon

>>49294285
Could maybe try something like Chevauchee. I seem to remember that one of the FiveCore editions had rules for black powder weapons in there somewhere...

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A little vignette I made todaty

Alternatively Welsh command squad with scottish advisor

>>49294458
I wish I knew which one

>>49290369
>japanese military organisation is something wargames tend to completely fuck up.
To bring this back from the last thread. If any of you guys have an SA account (yeah, I know, I'm old), lilljonas on there does some good rants about 16th century Japan.

Also he makes some cute 6mm buildings (Mura Miniatures), which is always a good way to make me like you.

>>49294568
lmao lad

>>49292370
> those cavalry spears/lances

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First annual hwg meetup when?

>>49296537
Probably not before the end of the year. If I had plenty of spare cash I wouldn't be on 4chan...

so, fairly new to this historical wargaming thing. My dad and I are looking for rulesets for the American revolution, anyone have any recommendations for something that's fairly quickplay and easy to learn?

>>49297212
what scale of combat?

>>49297224
Not sure what scale you'd call it, but closer to Saratoga or Monmouth, where it's full armies engaging

>>49297212

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/american-war-of-independence-1776-1783/products/liberty-or-death-american-war-of-independence-battle-set

>>49297299
we already have miniatures, mostly 1:72 scale that he's collected over the years, we're looking for a game to play with them

>>49297348
Check the OP for the Black Powder books. They are not perfect, but fairly simple and easy enough for beginners.

>>49296537
I Imagine at some point it'll be a F&IW with one of the Hampshire lads.

Related I organise a Salute trip every year with IRL friends. There could be a meet then or people could join etc.

>>49297555
>I Imagine at some point it'll be a F&IW with one of the Hampshire lads.
Not sure there's 2 people in this thread with actually finished armies for F&IW yet.

>>49297555
When is Salute?

>>49297690
That's why I said at some point. I have an amount of Indians (that have been posted) and some Compagnies Franche de la Marine.

It's April time I don't know the 2017 date.

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So i've built this Marder 3 over the weekend but the kit itself came with no stowage and the included crew mini was super stiff.

So i added some pieces of equipment. Do you think its enough? Or should i add some more pieces?

How would you pose the soldiers? (they aren't glued in yet due to painting and i also still experiment with a couple of poses to figure out which ones look best)

>>49297725
Salute sounds like a good bet to me.

>>49297690
>I have an amount of Indians (that have been posted) and some Compagnies Franche de la Marine.


I'm ready when you are (Hampshire lad here)

Has anybody picked up a copy of Congo yet?

I'm really disappointed right now, I heard of a ruleset for ACW called Ultra Freedom and that was pretty much the best name I ever heard and I was totally prepared to buy it despite not having anything ACW.

..It turns out I misheard, its called Altar of Freedom.

Anyone had contact with Pegasus 1/72 Russian/Ukrainian houses? Or their cacti?

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>>49298760
They're decent models. I've got the large 2 story house and the farm house kit. Plastic seems kinda glossy and doesn't like my normal styrene glue very much. They're fairly large buildings, I think you could reasonably get away with using them in 28mm as well as 20mm

How does /hwg/ feel about Osprey's skirmish series like Ronin and whatnot? Are they compatible with each other? Are they good games in general? Do they allow for Mordheim-ish progression-based campaigning with an events-based narrative, or are they better as single setpiece battles?

>>49297841
Looks good anon, I think its the right amount of equip.
crew look fine too, good to have them attentive on the horizon in front.

>>49294638
too BAD

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Anyone have a copy of Wargames Soldiers and Strategy #69

>>49294458
>>49299845
Does anyone actually know?

>>49299948
Its Battle Pack Issue 3, but good luck finding anyone here willing to upload it for you

>>49299567
They're not compatible for the most part because they're all by different authors. Osprey is merely publishing them, has nothing to do with the systems themselves other than giving some people an avenue to put out a much higher quality (visually) book than they could otherwise.

In general they are simply OK, many suffer from lack of external playtesting and revision, for some this is not too bad, for others it's renders the game practically unusable without significant effort in houserules (looking at you on the seven seas).
Basically, there's no consistency in terms of how they work, and if they're good or not, outside of presentation.

>>49300137
Why's that?

>>49300207
Hm, I see.

>>49293668
What game is this?

>>49300521
They look like Zvezda stuff.

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>>49300365
No, you are just a keener. You might find some other use for those ideas, they might even grow into your own set of rules.

Personally, I found Ganesha's FIW outing pretty shitty. Donnybrook is brilliant, but it's got me thinking about the Great Northern War and maybe the Monmouth Rebellion and scourging some Covenanters.

>>49300521
Samurai Battles, zvezda boxed game thing, I use the command&colours version of the rules with it (comes with 2 systems).

>>49297212
you want mini rules or hex and counter games?

>>49300992
I might playtest both. Im unsure about the small units of donnybrook as opposed to individuals and Ill have to pick up some fancy dice

>>49301226
miniatures.

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>>49292463
Finished up most of the snow flocking, might go back and add another layer to branches, and still have 6 more trees to do.

Next mission is to build up 8 BT-7's and 4 BA-6's that just arrived today. They're fast build so shouldn't take too long. 1 page instructions.

>>49293720
Dats a right sexy foldaway bolt action carbine. What is it a variant of. Assuming a vehicle carried pdw?

>>49302056
Filename and appearance would say some variant of the French WWII era MAS36. Nice Bolt Action that didn't get decent appreciation for obvious reasons. Saw plenty of action in the Indochina Conflict though.

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>>49293910
I like his face.

>>49302056
http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/45835182762/mas-36cr39-paratrooper-rifle-in-1939-the-french

>>49292086
Shit, I can't have been posting much lately, completely missed this community project bizzo

>>49298221
Yes, but then I put it back down. I was at a store that got early copies of Men Who Would Be Kings and was looking for it, but they'd sold them all. ;_;

Congo looks neat though, I need to go look up some AARs at some point.

>>49298760
Pretty sure that's these babies.

https://deltavector.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/pegasus-172-log-cabins-scottish.html

They're on my to-buy list. Sure, they are a bit small for 28mm, but they do look more than close enough.

Are there any guides on Terrain for 28mm and 30 mm historic?

I'm new to Bolt Action and K47 and only have Warmachine and Guild Ball terrain. So it's flat terrain for the most part.

I can build them myself, but depending on the price I wouldn't mind buying it.

>>49300137
P-please

>>49299909
67 is my closest to that number, sorry

>>49301745
Looks nice.

How is the quality of Pegasus? I've read mixed things about them.

>>49304754
What kind of terrain do you have in mind?

If you are looking for buildings, some companies sell of ruined (or complete) mdf houses pretty cheap. (compared to 4grounds for example)
https://www.timelineminiatures.co.uk/store/product-details.php?page=28mm-scale-buildings&product=28mm-scale-buildings-28mm-farmhouse-ruin

You can build them yourself quite easy too, just get a few sheets of balsa wood or plastic card and cut out the walls in a way you want.

Hedges and bushes can be made from sponges easily, bristles of brooms or brushes can be used for plants too

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>>49305320
The detail is pretty damn good, real easy to build kits, good balance of price to quantity and quality.
Both kits were double kits, so 2 in each. Definitely made for wargamers. Would recommend if anyone needs 1/72 BT-7s or BA-6's. I've found those particular vehicles difficult to find in large quantities and for reasonable price so pretty happy with pegasus in that respect.

Just finished the first coat of the green paint, but here's them all assembled (minus 2 BA-6s)

Will post the finished vehicles some time in the next few days

>>49305706
>if anyone needs

I certainly don't need them, but somehow i want to have some BA-6s anyway.

How much did you pay for the lot? How is the quality compared to other "quick build" wargaming kits like Italeri or PSC? (If you have any of these).

>>49305718
Detail is identical to PSC, plastic is slightly lower quality, but they fit perfectly and still very sturdy.

I got them through tower hobbies;
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZXB5
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZXB6
$10 for 2 vehicles is pretty reasonable

>>49294185
>ramrod through the neck

In modern ECW battle reenactments, the anachronistic command "check your scouring stick" is given prior to opening the pan and giving fire. This follows a few incidents in the early days of ECW reenactment societies, whereby a(t least one) reenactor and an audience member were actually shot in separate incidents by some dozy twonks who neglected to remove their ramrods from the barrel. One of them got it through the knee, I think. After this, musket safety was taken more seriously, and there are very rarely any incidents nowadays.

Alan Larson, the person who played Wellington in last year's Waterloo bicentenary reenactment, was injured by musketfire during a reenactment a few years ago(ACW I think). Some ramrods are wooden poles with a metal head attached, and in this situation the metal head broke off in the barrel. Alan got shot in the neck, severing an artery. Thankfully, there just so happened to be a former army medic in the rank behind him who leapt into action. The medic ripped open Alan's neck and pinched the artery shut by hand. This saved his life, although he now has a rather ugly scar.

>>49299567

Ronin is good for what it is. Barely playtested in some places, though (Weapon balance is .... peculiar, and some warbands are crappy by design).

The combat system is very nice, though. Sadly, the "campaign" rules for a Mordheim-like game are clunky and quite clearly an afterthought. It's a good game, but limited.

That said, can I ask again if someone has Dux Bellorum from Osprey? Danke!

>>49305782
This happend few times in Poland as well. Shame.

But reason why Perry is sculpting with one hand is most astonishing for me. Artilery is a bitch.

>>49305841
>some warbands are crappy by design

Dat Peasant warband. Minimum 25 percent of the force must be Peasants, and the only other options you have are from the Hired Swords list. Fuckin' hilarious.

>>49305854
>Perry
Crecy reenactment, I think. And he still sculpts and paints. If ever there was a prime example of someone not letting a disability get in the way, it would be him.

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>>49305782

Nasty stuff. There's some memorable descriptions from the era talking about the "whooping" sound of ramrods spinning through the air because some bloke forgot to take it out when he fired. I recall reading about a sergeant who suggested that any man who fired off his would be sent to fetch it back.

I can't recall the name but I'm sure there was a senior British officer, perhaps a colonel, who was killed at Toulouse 1814 when a random flying ramrod pierced his heart.

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>>49305782
>The medic ripped open Alan's neck and pinched the artery shut by hand.

>>49305950
>I can't recall the name but I'm sure there was a senior British officer, perhaps a colonel, who was killed at Toulouse 1814 when a random flying ramrod pierced his heart.

Wonder if anybody ever had the brief thought to resurrect the old idea of brass-fletched gun arrows because of this phenomenon.

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I've build half a squad of germans and i want to paint them with autumn ss camo to get some "color" into my army.

What parts of their uniforms would be in that camo? The zeltbahn/cape and helmet covers for sure, but also pants and shirts?

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>>49305976
>but also pants and shirts?

Well you could do them in standard feldgrau (like "classic" German infantry) or you could have them with the camo jacket/trousers, or you could mix and match both!

Dear Ivan,
Im poor
Can I please have a free ruleset
Thanks,
Anon

>>49305976
Do a google image search on "waffen ss autumn camo" and you'll likely find all the guidelines you need there.

>>49306009
FiveCore 1st edition and a bunch of supplements is pay-what-you-want, you know.

>>49306013
Can I have a specific free ruleset, thats not covered in the pay what you want bundle that I already put a coupla dollars into

>>49305993
Thanks, so basically every kind of combination is possible.

>>49306011
Thanks, i did and i saw all sorts of combinations which started to confuse me.

I think i'll try to balance camo and grey to have some kind of contrast on the minis.

>>49306038
>Thanks, so basically every kind of combination is possible.

The exigencies of war have always had this tendency to make a mockery of standardization.

>>49302398
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that thought.

>>49302307
>>49302754
Sounds pretty neat, but outdated by the time they actually saw real action.

>>49305950
The flight qualities of the ramrod is dependent on its material, apparently. As part of taking musket safety more seriously as mentioned above, tests were done on different sorts of ramrod.

>Wooden
Flies through the air
>Metal
Spins through the air
>Wooden with metal tip
Shatters, sending shards and impromptu bullet towards the friendly opposition.

>>49305966
They don't teach this kind of thing at St John's Ambulance...

>>49306049
I remember a Panzer veteran being amused by the immense attention to detail of historical modellers when he was applying paint to vehicles that is meant to be mixed with oil using dirty water stirred with tree branches.

>>49305854
>>49305916
> Michael Perry
> Gets his arm blown off by a cannon
> Learns to work one-handed (with his non-dominant hand) and carries on scupting

> Kev Adams
> Gets stabbed in the face and beaten to shit with brass knuckles
> Gets his face rebuilt and carries on sculpting

Man, the Old Guard are hard as nails.

>>49302782

NEA did a general and a full-on ship for her to ride in in like 2 days. You've got three days left. Get started.

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>>49305782
>hankfully, there just so happened to be a former army medic in the rank behind him who leapt into action. The medic ripped open Alan's neck and pinched the artery shut by hand. This saved his life,

I certainly hope the man was given a commission. It's tradition for saving Wellington's life.

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I started work on my IJN stuff for the Java Sea. Finished the destroyers I had this past Friday, started on a Sendai class cruiser today to keep them company.

Doing Japanese ships is kind of irritating, because Japan was divided up into five naval districts, each centered around a naval arsenal which has it's own particular shade of gray. Figuring out which ship was associated with which arsenal hasn't always been easy, and it means doing the ships I have in batches based on arsenal so that they all look consistent.

This batch were all built under the Yokuska Naval Aresenal, which is a dark blue-gray. I kinda worry that I got the paint a bit too dark for the scale. Anybody else familiar with IJN colors that could comment?

>>49307057
Eh, I just go with a roughly uniform shade of grey for my IJN stuff.
That also makes them nicely uniform on the tabletop.

Speaking of the Java Sea, I'll probably be playing some Naval War against the ruleset's developer this weekend using my ABDA forces.
A report (and hopefully pics) will follow afterwards.

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>>49307258
I'll definitely have to give doing that some thought. It'd be a hell of a lot easier. I'll be looking forward to reading a new report! Have they had their kid yet? I really need to break out my RM and MN stuff and play some games so that I can give some kind of meaningful feedback about them, so that he has something to look at when he isn't as busy. Wish for points values, but I guess just have to wing it. Pic related is my Regia Marina backlog of things to repaint and base. RM is a strong favorite of mine, but there's a reason I've been working through all the other stuff I have besides having decent looking ships to do demos with at unspecified future points. Tax return season will probably see it get even worse as I have so much stuff in my Shapeways wishlists that it hurts.

>>49307683
> Those crisp red and white stripes

delicious.

>>49308253
Unfortunately that's factory paint. The Italian stuff is some of the better overall stuff that was put out in the War at Sea line. They actually look pretty good for prepaints in a CMG line. I aim for the same though, but I need to invest in some of that Tamiya masking tape I've heard such good things about. I can do one or two lines looking crisp on a model, but I've got no illusions about doing that many and having them be uniform in size and sharpness.

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>>49303839
Vehicle, 20mm and 28mm mini. The doors look on the small side for 28 but overall I doubt you'd feel they were out of scale once you got a game going. Shed in the middle is from Miniart and is obviously too small for 28mm

>>49306052
Looks like the non para version is pretty cheap, <$400, though ammo is about $0.80 per shot. Still would be fun to try out though and beats the Martini-Henry at $7/shot if you don't cast your own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJtjy-2K5m0

>>49304754
The basic techniques are the same whether you're building future space buildings or historic ones. Get a folder of reference pics going and save any interesting terrain or building pictures you come across.
http://www.matakishi.com/carentan.htm
http://www.matakishi.com/makingwwiibuildings.htm

>>49306270
Somewhere I've seen a pic of a P-47 or P-51 prepping for D-day and the invasion stripes are getting put on with a mop and are nowhere near straight or even

>>49308355
Could you naval guys suggest a ww2 for a new comer that is try overly complex and would apply to none navy buffs as well? Im into my RN stuff, grandad servered in ww2 but my friends aren't. Also who produces a decent miniature line that I could pick up in the UK?

Probably sick of answer as well but how do you do your bases?

Ty!

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>>49305706
Convert one to a radio-equipped command tank!

>>49308491
Victory at Sea is a pretty accessible first naval wargame, and as a bonus, it and the expansion are in the Naval mediafire in the OP.

Both books come with counter sheets you could print in the meantime. Common scales are 1/2400 and 1/3000. Some folks also like 1/6000, 1/1200, and 1/1800. You'd have to check to see what folks around you are playing if you want to kind of keep in with them, but if you anticipate just collecting various forces, just pick a scale that you like and go to town. GHQ and Panzerschiffe both offer pretty broad ranges of WWII models in 1/2400. Alnavco is a distributor that carries models from a bunch of different ranges and scales. Shapeways is also a good option, as many of the designers offer their models in multiple scales.

Most folks go with rectangular bases, apply water effects to them and drag the ships through while still wet to create the wakes, and paint afterwards. How much if any information you add to the bases is entirely up to you and your tastes. Some people don't even base at all.

Download Victory at Sea and futz around with some counters for a bit and sea how it strikes you. If you enjoy it, and can get others into it, check out General Quarters 3, also in the OP. It's got more of a learning curve, but once you get over the hump, it will let you fight many more kinds of actions in a higher level of detail. If you've got more questions, ask away!

>>49308474
I'll have to add that to my wishlist of guns. The regular version is ugly in an endearing sort of way, like the carbines in Valkyria Chronicles.

>>49308715
Cheers annon. Will take a look!

>>49309114
There's one singular reason I visit Reddit, and it's for a group that just posts warship pictures.Someone posted this the other day, and it made me so jealous. You being an RN buff, you'll appreciate this:
http://imgur.com/a/qHtQ6

I know there are other fans of the Tribals too, so it's for you guys as well. Hope I get a chance to visit her one day.

>>49309311
/r/warshipporn by chance?

Love the tribals, some built just up the road from me. Although there's very little ship building left in the North East of England. Mentioned above my great grandad was a CPO stoker on board HMS KGV during the Bismarck hunt. Can post a picture or two if people are interested.

The GHQ models look amazing but seem rather expensive for the size. Will check Panzerschiffe next.

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>>49310062
>The GHQ models look amazing but seem rather expensive for the size. Will check Panzerschiffe next.

Not to jump in, but here's the difference between a GHQ model and a Panzerschiffe model.

SMS Straslund is from GHQ, and the other three are from Panzerschiffe (don't ask why 3/4 ships in the same squadron are from PZ and the other's from GHQ - long story).

>>49310062
Love to see your pics. My grandfather was a baker that later got nabbed by the paint shop on a USN gasoline tanker in the Pacific, thankfully late in the war when things weren't quite so hairy. Hope to scan his pictures someday so they can be shared too.

>>49305375
>can be made from sponges easily
>Curiosity intensifies

>>49308474
You must not be aware that Warmachine is the game where all terrain must be 2D for maximum playability or angry gamers will berate you for wanting a table that looks good but "plays like shit".

I've never had to make terrain so my terrain making muscles are untrained and weak.

>>49311133
Not the guy you're replying to: I haven't played Warmachine in quite a while, mainly for the reasons I haven't done much of any gaming in a good while. If it's come to that, it's pretty sad. I remember when the Warmachine community used to value the hobby aspect, including terrain. I can tell you it would bug the hell out of me if someone tried to tell me that, especially if it was a friendly rather than competitive game.

>>49311133
>You must not be aware that Warmachine is the game where all terrain must be 2D for maximum playability or angry gamers will berate you for wanting a table that looks good but "plays like shit".
This makes me angrier than it should.

>>49311133
http://madbobminiatures.blogspot.de/2013/11/making-hedges.html

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>>49311265

I've got a 60-piece Khador Warmachine army that hasn't seen a table in almost three years, partially for this exact reason. Nothing but flat boards, and all terrain was felt fabric. Green felt for forests. Grey felt for buildings. Brown felt for generic "rough terrain". Blue felt for water. If you brought "real" terrain you were asked to put it away, because it limited people's ability to put miniatures on it.

It was just a visually miserable experience.

(Other reason I got out was the people. It's a 50/50 mix locally whether you're going to play against a cool person, or a person who takes Page 5 as an excuse to be an asshole. Up to and including people who intentionally "accidentally" break models, and then complain to TOs that you're fielding an unassembled model and should have to forfeit...and that argument WORKS)

>>49311511
Thank fuck I wouldn't go near those kind of folks...I'm seriously considering to scrap my plans of getting a Warmachine starter and stay with historicals and Warzone...

>>49311511
>Up to and including people who intentionally "accidentally" break models,
wot

>>49311511
>Page 5 as an excuse to be an asshole
Do I want to know what page 5 says?

>>49311511
That's pretty horrible. No game is worth breaking other peoples shit for. Of course I always took Page 5 to mean playing your best, not win at all costs.

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>>49311511
>people who intentionally "accidentally" break models

The fact that their are people who consider this to be an acceptable practice is infuriating.

>>49311511
>>49311687
>>49311693
Not to mention that page 5 (which describes the spirit the game is intended to be played in) specifically mentions it's not an excuse to be an asshole.

>>49311687
Page 5 was a bit of what was supposed to be tongue in cheek braggadocio and posturing. Unfortunately, some people are absolutely tone deaf and took it as a call to win at all costs.

>>49311762
The problem there is nobody ever thinks they themselves are the asshole so they just assume that doesn't apply to them.

>>49311762

The 1e Page 5 was much more...liberal...about that. 2e and onwards they've outright said "don't be a dick"; you're correct. But there's a lot of dick-ish long-term players, and Warmachine has that reputation for a reason.

>>49311511

Where do you play?

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>>49310361
>Panzerschiffe

Yeah the GHQ stuff is miles ahead!

>>49310816

AS Myers. Joined the RN as stoker 2nd class in 1923 at 18 years old. Discharged as a Chief Stoker in 1945

HMS Victory Royal Naval Barracks, Portsmouth 03.08.23-03.12.23
HMS Malaya Queen Elizabeth-Class Battleship 04.12.23-03.09.26
HMS Nelson Nelson-Class Battleship 15.08.27-07.06.28
HMS Renown Renown-Class Cruiser 08.06.28-13.05.29
HMS Suffolk County-Class Cruiser 10.10.30-29.06.33
HMS Alecto Depot Ship for Submarines 05.05.34-27.06.35
HMS Deptford Grimsby-Class Sloop 14.08.35-15.11.35
HMS Lupin Arabis-Class Sloop 16.11.35-14.01.36
HMS Grenville G-Class Destroyer ( Flotilla Leader) 01.07.36-30.10.36
HMS London County-Class Cruiser 20.01.37-29.11.38
HMS King George V KGV-Class Battleship 01.10.40-16.02.44
HMS Loch Fyne Loch-Class Frigate 13.05.44-22.04.45

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>>49311687
Here the Mark II version of Page 5. The first edition was a LOT more "rough", and didn't have the specific callouts to not be an asshole.

>>49311693
>dat spoiler

I agree, but I actually understand where the WAAC people are coming from. It's designed as a very competitive game to start with (as in, "not casual"), and when you added in the Page 5 text, I can completely see how it would snowball into "WAAC, sportsmanship be damned."

>>49311804
>Where do you play?

Cincinnati area. Generally, Lexington, Louisville, Indianapolis, Columbus, Dayton, and Cincy. Most of the meta issues I've experienced were in the Kentucky cities, plus Dayton. There's a guy up in Dayton who keeps a scoreboard showing how many newbies he's made quit the game.

(He did it for Infinity too, until he more or less was asked to not come back to Cincy game stores for that reason.)

Anyway, this whole thing is why I like Historicals and stuff that is similar in playstyle (such as BattleTech). I play games to have fun, not to establish dominance. I'll admit I'm somewhat concerned about getting into Bolt Action because it *is* somewhat more competitive than other historicals I've played...but I'm dragging 10 other Cincy BattleTech players into it as well, so I'll at least have a guaranteed playgroup that has a 10-year history of NOT being WAAC assholes.

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>>49311898

I'd inherited his medals but after doing some research realised his LS&GC medal was missing. We presumed he sold it shortly after the war; times where hard. After some months I managed to track it down it down and buy it back off a collector.

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>>49311947

>>49311947
>>49312017

That's badass. Well done.

>>49311940
>Here the Mark II version of Page 5. The first edition was a LOT more "rough", and didn't have the specific callouts to not be an asshole.

To add context to what NEA's saying. Look at the Mark 2 version there, and mentally delete points 3, 4, and 5 (the whole right-hand column). Then apply that to a group of people who are self-selected to be win-at-all-costs personalities anyway.

You can likely see how it got out of hand, and necessitated the verbiage in the Mark 2 version.

>>49311898
>>49311947
Man, he had a lot assignments over the years, including three battlewagons. He must've had some stories to tell. That's pretty cool that you managed to reassemble his collection of honors.

>>49311940
I used to run Winterguard back before the Deathstar was a thing, back when Escalation was still out fresh. That out to tell you just what kind of scrub I am, and what my thoughts on the matter are.

>>49311947
>>49312017
Fine work, anon. Found my great-granddad's discharge papers in the attic a while ago, should get them scanned for interest.

>>49312066
They straight up removed it in MKIII.

I think it's too late to save that community though, but they have got a good thing going for em so I say let them enjoy what they like.

The community still affects me though. Somethings are hardwired to trigger my unease, like "sloppy" movement that I really should classify as normal. I still get triggered when someone bumps models... etc etc..
Thinking you can lose early on because of the severe snowball effect in Warmachine Hordes etc...

Maybe one day I'll be fun to play against....

>>49311940
>>49312066
Right. Having read that (and that's supposedly the "better" version...) I'm never going to touch WH, not even with a 12 foot pole. EVER. Talk about excuses to be a god-awful WAAC game.

Then again, I wouldn't anyway, since mechs, and especially those mechs look bloody stupid

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Somebody say WARMACHINE?

>>49312504
>or put down the metal and pick up something plastic

My fucking sides, the irony in that sentence is beyond all comprehension.

>>49312600
Also ironic was the exhortation towards aggressive tactics when Cygnar, the primary heroic faction, was actually a long-ranged shooty army that favors setting up defensively and bringing enemies into a killzone IIRC.

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Anyone make a Type 94 tankette in 6mm?

GHQ makes a L3/35 so tankettes do exist in that scale, I've just never been able to find the Type 94

Thanks guys. It meant a lot to my grandad to get his dads medals back.

>>49312128

You definitely should!

>>49312690
Sometimes I wish tankettes had been more popular than they were historically. They're just so damn adorable.

>13 matches to make a 16cm section of fencing

I thought they would go further desu...

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So I've decided that if I do branch out in land-based historicals, one of the things I'd like to do is a group of WWII era Seabees, either as a standalone or an accompaniment to a Marine force. I've got absolutely no knowledge of what system it would be appropriate to run something like this in (meaning no idea about scale), and no knowledge about what sort of kit Seabees used to carry (meaning no idea where to start for models). anybody have some advice? I tried digging around in the MF, but the only Osprey I could find that was somewhat related was for US Army combat engineers.

for the past couple of months, i have not been able to access warlord's Aegean States collection.

It just says 404.

Did they kill it? Please say no, I want sum o dat smexy phalanx.

>>49313501
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/aegean-states

Works for me.

>>49313525
oh shit wtf

that link works

maybe i clicked a dead link or something?

>>49313544
Most probably yeah.

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>Most obscure war that deserves a dedicated wargame.

>>49315187
>We've already got rules for the Emu War, Drew.

Skirmishes and Buffalo slaughter to build railroads in the American West?

>>49315187
The time Neil had to sneak into our grumpy neighbour's garden to get the football back before he found it and popped it.

>>49315187
I'm working on converting NEIS 2nd Edition to use for the 2nd Afghan War, and by extension most Victorian colonial stuff, including the Sudan, the Opium Wars and Crimea.

>>49301275

Black powder is probably a good bet to start, especially if you aren't very experienced with tabletop games, it does big battles fast and easy but is a bit simplistic and many people are put off by the command - issuing system. You could look for a more advanced rulesets after playing it if it seems too simple, and you can download it from the folders itt

>>49315187

January Uprising.

>>49315244
Y'know what this made me think of, actually? Maniac Mansion.

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>tfw find a blog where a guy posts amazing looking games on terrain which goes together well but looks really manageable to make.
>tfw my club still cant cobble together terrain 1/2 as good.

Post sexy but feasible boards please guys, preferably black powder era.

I'm going to start making terrain one day, honest.

>>49315187
Anglo-Zanzibar War

>>49315597
> A game could conceivably take longer than the actual war.

>>49315625
>the British player's goal is to win in the attested time of the war or less. the Zanzibar player's goal is to force the British player to take longer than the attested time to win.

I'd fucking play it tbqh

>>49315597
It's a thing!

Obviously, joke game tho. There is a single card being drawn after initiative resolution. It's must-play game-ending bombardment card .

It even has single space point-to-the-same-point map with a counter to place in it.

Free print and play at BGG.

>>49315727
> 38 minute time limit.

Ironically, that would be really difficult and thus massively shift the balance in favour of the Zanzibar player.

>>49315769
True, you'd have to have some strict rules for the Zanzibar player to avoid shenanigans. Maybe denote effective time via turn limits or something, too.

Anyone got a Fivecore skirmish batrep I could read? Curious to see how it plays, but I can't find anything.

>>49315812
I believe we actually had a few on /hwg/ ages ago.

That one anon who followed the misadventures of an IRA group comes to mind.

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>>49315187
I don't think The Pig War has ever been gamed

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>>49315576
How about starting with a game mat?

http://tobispaintpot.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-new-horizon-tutorial-for-flexible.html
https://operationwargaming.blogspot.com/search/label/Terrain%20Mat

Why is donnybrook considered a skirmish game when you need a table bigger than a skirmish table and you need close to 50 miniatures minimum

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>>49315834
>Wargaming IRA

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>>49315187
The Cod Wars could be fun.

Alternatively the Kettle War

> The dutch player must knock over as many german kettles as possible within a six-turn limit.

>>49315187
Alfred Vs. The Cakes.

>>49315925
who cares

>>49315925
strictly speaking if it is a 1:1 figure ratio it's a skirmish ruleset.

>>49316517
i just wanted a game with 10-15 figures a side

gibe the fivecore black powder rules

>>49311511
>Up to and including people who intentionally "accidentally" break models, and then complain to TOs that you're fielding an unassembled model and should have to forfeit...and that argument WORKS)

Absolutely disgusting, makes 40K rules lawyers look quaint by comparison

>>49316850
Yeah I just...you don't break other people's shit unless you want your own shit broke, by which I mean your bones.

>>49317316
40kids are the ones here who throw shit. Warmahordes guys here are civil but just refuse to paint their stuff.

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>>49315944
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/41671/cod-wars-iceland-vs-great-britain-1970s

>>49313544

Ever since they changed the site every now and then it crops out on me

Also hype af for wlg armoured Elephant

AND victrix plastic ellies being reconfirmed

>>49316808
fuck off freeloader. Anyone who pirates rulesets is a cunt

>>49318666

Speaking of which, is Warlord releasing a digital version of the 2nd edition of Bolt Action?

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>>49315877

You could make a game of their cricket matches I suppose?

>>49315944
>>49317837

See also PDF related

>>49318997
That is adorable.

I want a revolutionary war small skirmish game. Like necromunda style. What are my options.

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>>49312690
Ah the type 94 TK. cool little vehicle, and actually used to great effect by the Japanese.

C-in-C have a few that might work:
http://www.pfc-cinc.com/page/page/329103.htm
The tankette is probably a TK, there's no price, but it says "in stock" could be worth emailing them. Failing that the Type 97 Te-Ke would be a passable stand-in

Ka-Mi without floats not related

Civilians for the next hwg community project?

>>49322480
Well it was the second most popular choice in the last straw poll, so it's definitely a popular choice. Plenty of choice for possible minis too, like naval
anons could do merchant vessel, Napoleonic anons could do a camp follower, and so on.

>>49322480
>like naval anons could do merchant vessel,
Might be better to go with "non combatant" rather than civilian?

>>49322638
Oh of course, there's a ton of options: resupply vessel, hospital ship, cruise liner, even an oil rig or something. Maybe a yacht too, but I'd bet that's pretty tiny at 1:1200.

>>49311940
>Anyway, this whole thing is why I like Historicals and stuff that is similar in playstyle
Just watch out for the grognards and things will be fine.

>>49315834
>>49315937
Yeah, that was me! I wish I'd kept logs of all the stuff I was running for you guys back then. The IRA campaign was so much fun.

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>>49322945
Quickly cleaned up the modification I made for FMiN while writing the AARs for the thread.

How long before Warlord becomes the next GW-style jew

>>49324144
"Wot"

>>49324144
They already have, says high street stores?

What about Victory at Sea Age of Dreadgnout? Where is this?

>>49325127
Well there's a physical copy of it about 2 meters away from me but it is hardback so I'm not destroying it to scan it.

>>49324144
About 10 years, they're in the '90s boom phase currently.
I don't actually expect them to go full GW but I can't say I'm much of a fan of them either

Does a priest count as a non-com? Only thing I have on my painting table ATM.

Not that it really matters since I'll paint him and post pics anyway ...

>>49325532
We should probably have another vote soon, unless we are just going ahead with non coms? Is the priest planning on killing? If no I say go for it

>>49325127
We've had several anons request it, and I've made efforts to find a PDF somewhere to post, but no luck. I'm not gonna buy a PDF, because then I'd have to go through and remove all the watermarks (there is no easy and quick way to do this). Not to mention I'm currently pissed at Mongoose, and getting angrier by the month because they have fucked around, and fucked around with releasing VAS 2, and all they have to offer are lame excuses. Meanwhile, endless Judge Dredd and Traveller shit.

>>49325649
I think we should just got for non-combatants.

Rollover is on the 16th though.

>>49316546
Yeah, there are different definitions of "skirmish wargame" - for some people it's gang-level stuff, for others it's 1:1 figure scale stuff like Saga, Lion Rampant, Dux Brit, and so on.

Donnybrook's Saga-scale, IIRC?

>>49322638
Could model up the Queen Vic.

>planes & mercs sank that ship before I took a cruise on it, vaguely unsettling

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>>49326162
>planes & mercs sank that ship

I totally called that before it happened, but it did seem like a setup:

>Hey guys let's fire an Exocet at this unidentified nautical target! It's gotta be our objective right? Not like there's any other shipping around here! Oh whoops-

Convenient way to tie up the narrative too. Were they in Georgia before or after that? It's been a long time since I dipped into those threads.

>>49326334
HEY IT LAUNCHED A HELO THAT'S AN ACT OF WAR OK

Poor decisions were made. <3

>>49326085
>I think we should just got for non-combatants.
Certainly works for me.

>>49326334
Georgia was after that:
They needed somewhere to escape & it was either that or China.

>>49320205

Muskets and tomahawks is, I think, somewhat more figures than necromunda but it's the closest thing I can think of

>>49326875
I would love to play with persistent warbands in m&t if I could get a big enough group to be playing it regularly and could be bothered to make some persistence rules with it.

>>49323137
Do you live in Ireland, anon? I couldn't imagine getting people playing this without bawling. I would like to get the Syrian Civil War gamed, but historical wargamers tend to have a strange moral code about what war is "ethical" to game.

>>49328517
>but historical wargamers tend to have a strange moral code
Not sure about that. Usually it just needs some time to enter into the mind of gamers as "hey, we can play this on the tabletop".

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I'm good with non-combatants/auxiliaries . I don't have a terrible lot of ships sitting in my pile right now that would qualify, but I think I do have two.

>>49328583
In fairness, there aren't a lot of projects that are a perfect fit for Naval gamers. Build terrain projects for example.

>>49328580
I remember reading a TMP page where almost all the comments were against OP's wish to game the Mexican Drug War. To be honest, I wouldn't be keen on cartel on civilian violence itself be gamed but I don't think gaming say special forces assaulting the stronghold of a cartel is unethical, no matter how recent it was.

>>49322638
>Might be better to go with "non combatant" rather than civilian?
Could we go as far to paint some partisans? They're in civilian clothing but not non-combatants.

>>49320472
That's probably work and cetainly easier than learning CAD and going the stairways route. Type 97 was designed as a replacement for the Type 94 anyways

>>49328517
It's a fucking game. It's all 'ethical'. Treat the source material seriously and don't fuck around too much.

it's no different from people playing SS or anything else.

>>49325532
Works for me. He's clearly separate from your regular combat fogures. If he's a fully armored bishop with a club it's more of a stretch though

>>49328761
Agreed. I'm the OP, it's all fucking pewter and plastic to me, as long as one doesn't take the piss and go out of the way to insult history it's all fair game.

I asked because I just want one line answers to any club mates that might react negatively.

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What's the deal with the equipment on the Chinese troops in Ronin? Captain and soldier have both medium armour, but the captain has a shield while the soldier doesn't. Should the captain have heavy armour or should the soldiers have shields?

Seems odd that they'd have medium armour stock, when that's what heavy infantry has when they exchange their shield for a weapon. Also seems weird that the captain doesn't have to exchange his shield when taking another weapon, while all the other models do.

Would it make sense to rule soldiers and captain as having light armour stock plus a shield (so medium armour), and taking a second weapon means they're losing the shield?

whats the best book to learn about ancient greece, wanna learn bout dem dark ages yo and those sweet city states

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>>49329082
Actually let me rephrase the question, does anyone have any book suggestions for learning about ancient Greece any time frame is good leading up to roman conquest. I wanna learn about the aetolgical origins , rise of city states the various league wars, colonies, etc
Also Napoleonic wars someone once suggested some soldiers memoirs but i forget the title

>>49325696
Damn fuggin' shame.

>>49329164
>aetiology
Are you sure this is what you are after? Unless you are using it in a way unfamiliar to how I use it you are interested in stories used to describe the origins of the present day situation (for example the Aeneid was an aetiological for a lot of Roman history, Rome had long claimed to be descended from Trojans and the conflict with Dido presages the Punic Wars).

Anyway a book I liked, not aetiological I must add, was Van Wees's Greek Warfare: Myths and Reality. It's a very good book for "Homeric" Greek Warfare.

>>49329330
yeah, I may have misused it, but its part of what im looking for, 2 reasons. 1 its part of the culture and 2 go back far enough theres not enough information so i like learning about foundation myths, some lewd wolf titty sucking you know what i mean

>>49329385
I should have added, I have a very "storyteller" focused mindset (anathema to any historiography) and my autism tells me i need to learn about the beginning first before i can go on to the next event

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>>49329038
>Would it make sense to rule soldiers and captain as having light armour stock plus a shield (so medium armour), and taking a second weapon means they're losing the shield?

Yeah I think the soldier is meant to be light armor without a shield or medium with. Also you should be able to strip the armor for -4 points (thus Light or No armor), as I believe you could see regular Ming foot soldiers armorless.

The captain probably should be the same, though I wouldn't mind him having the option to have a unique hoplite fightin' style.

Does anyone know of a database of the colours worn by military orders in the crusades?

I want to paint my Milites Christi in something other than white/red or black/white.

Annoyingly the only other player in my area has painted his in the colours of the order of St Lazarus so that's out.

>>49329164
>Van Wees's Greek Warfare: Myths and Reality
I should add im looking for general history

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>>49329304
The even more irritating part is they're using "Oh we want our own miniatures line in 1/1800" as an excuse to hold everything up. While that would be nice, because that's the scale I collect, it shouldn't be any reason to not put out rules that are done. The ACW variant has been done for nearly two years, and they still haven't released it either, and I very much doubt they're trying to find a model maker for that too. In the meantime, they've killed all of the hype, and now they're working on the goodwill of their customers. It's absolutely baffling to me.

>>49329385
>so i like learning about foundation myths, some lewd wolf titty sucking you know what i mean
I do, I was fascinated with Roman reference to foundation myth during my degrees, wrote several essays on it.

I presented a paper on Roman foundation mythology under Augusts at the British Conference of Undergraduate Research

I'm no expert on Greek Aetiology but I'm sure you could find lots on it.

>>49329507
If there isn't an Osprey on this I will eat my Chapel-de-Fer

>>49329440
Maybe -2 points, like Montos, who have light armour. The Ming soldiers would still retain their shield.

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>>49329507
Well, you're in trouble desu...I painted my knights in the basically fantasy colors of the Knights of Jerusalem from Kingdom of Heaven.

>>49329567
>The Ming soldiers would still retain their shield.

Unless they got something like an arquebus or bow anyway.

>>49329659
Yes, of course. Just that trading their light armour for no armour shouldn't negate their shields as well.

>>49329699
Fair.

I do kind of wish Ronin got more backup supplements like In Her Majesty's Name did. We could use some errata and a couple more warbands. Like Portuguese sailors or VOC guys.

>>49329759
There's the mythical creatures things. But yeah. Still, the armies you can make are still plenty and varied, and with little tweaking and a good group, it's a fun game to play every now and then.

>>49329797
Yeah, I'd say it and Impetus are the best games I've seen so far for wargaming Japan post-Tanegashima.

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Finished some more Java Sea stuff today. A Sendai-class light cruiser to lead the flock of destroyers and a Mogami-class heavy cruiser for some more muscle.

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>>49330042
fuuuuuck the Mogami is a beautiful design. Dat swept smokestack.

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>>49315244

>>49328517
I live in the north of England at the moment, never really had any problems. As other anons have said, it's just pewter and plastic. So long as you're not being disrespectful, I don't see a problem with wargaming anything, no matter how recent etc.

>>49330263
To be fair, us Northerners don't really give much of a shit about anything.

>>49292000
Really new here. I'm looking for wargames that can be played using counters instead of miniatures (poor, live in a town without any boardgaming shops, and shipping to my country would cost more than the miniature itself). The eras that interest me the most are high medieval, pike and shot, and mid-to-late 18th century. Could you please reccommend me some games? I have never really wargamed and am dying to get into it (really fond of history).

>>49330376
For a start, try Kings of War with army lists from The Hour of Wolves and Shattered Shields site - you can use cards of sufficient size with either the unit names and stats written on it, or you can download/make some paper figures to make it a bit more interesting visually. Then, I can recommend the Warlord systems like Hail Caesar and Pike and Shot as you can play those with paper cutouts easily - which is true for most element based games to be honest, but those are the ones I can recommend.

Also, hex and chit, lot of games in the folders you can download and print for yourself.

>>49330376
>>49330419
Here are the links too:

http://www.manticgames.com/free-rules.html

http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=KingsOfWarHistoricalAncientCombat

>>49292059
Truly a dark day we cpuld have united europe just like napoleon and hitler tried afterwards.

>>49330326
Everyone's so much friendlier up here compared to the south. I love it here.

>>49330595
I tried to talk to a bloke in a pub in Kent once.

He looked at me like I'd just shat on his lawn.

>>49330376

There's a set of English civil war paper soldier and terrain pdfs which are really well done, I think they're out of print but I have them

On my phone now but I'll upload later if you're interested, they would work for TYW/80 years war easily enough I think

You can use them for any ruleset which doesn't use individual basing and resize them if you want to use a smaller scale

>>49330595
>>49330641
Rude.

I'm from the south and lived a few years in Kent, and a few years further north (depending on your viewpoint Birmingham is Northern or Southern) and to be frank it's not much different in friendliness in my experience.

>>49330765
>depending on your viewpoint Birmingham is Northern

It really isn't.

>>49330419
>>49330468
>>49330697
Thanks a lot, anons.

>>49330807
Mate, everything above Brizzle is up north...

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>>49330815
>>49330697

here's a link for the paper soldiers https://mega.nz/#fm/QFUxBZZK

Let me know if it doesn't work or didn't compress right

>>49330419
>systems like Hail Caesar and Pike and Shot as you can play those with paper cutouts easily - which is true for most element based games to be honest, but those are the ones I can recommend.

This is true, I made a bunch of "cards" (pic related) and put them in MTG sleeves, then taped the sleeves together either two horizontally or three vertically to represent the unit's "footprint" to play Hail Caesar on the cheap (the rulebook includes handy guidelines on required base-frontages and estimates of depths for different unit types and sizes, in MM)

This would probably work for just about any rule-system, you might with some creativity even be able to fiddle it into warhammer ancient battles just using casualty-markers instead of removing figures

>>49331097
>Let me know if it doesn't work or didn't compress right
It doesn't work - left click, get link or something, be sure to copy the one with the key added.

Also, can you upload the cards to somewhere? Even tho I have minis for it, they could come in handy.

>>49331165

https://mega.nz/#!QRUj0TqY!n_Evd8hHdsFjH4wAfcMfFkL9e5NBK-eYP6GJ4FRTBvs

this should work, i was trying to be lazy and not make an account

the hail caesar cards are kind of a giant disorganized mess but I might get around to organizing/compressing/uploading them in a day or two

they have really varying artwork and sometimes I customized the stats or created units that werent in the HC lists (giving certain units special rules, for example) which I haven't thoroughly playtested or balanced

They were also only made for Hellenistic Successors armies to recreate the wars of the Diadochoi, so mostly Macedonian units with mercenaries/eastern auxiliaries

>>49331369
Great, thanks for both the Mega link and the cards.

>>49330376
Big collection of paper figures
http://www.juniorgeneral.org

>>49323137
Any demos/examples of you playing such a game with that mod?

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>>49329532
>actual educated people on my 4chan, its more likely than you think
give me that link you Britannic savage

>>49331710
A link to what? It wasn't recorded.

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>>49332056
Do you have the abstract? Conference proceedings are usually online. Course that would involve revealing your real name to 4chan

Things I should have realised before I started painting my Samurai:

It's not easy. This is directly related to the other points.
There's a lot of colours.
No, more colours than that.
Fuck, even trying to cut down to colours visible from a distance, there's too many colours.
Seriously, when can I get to the ashigaru so I don't have to worry about so many colours.
If I ever do a proper army, I am doing it in 10mm.

does someone have tried the gripping beast vikings?
are the casts good enough for the price?

>>49332124
Which samurai do you paint? I have the Zvezda game in my stash along with all their earlier kits, and while they are really detailed, they just need a bit more time than any other kind of medieval minis.

>>49332128
Plastics or metal? The plastic minis are nice, but based on their Byzantines, the metals are meh.

>>49332090
http://www.bcur.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/BCUR-2013-Book-of-Abstracts-1.pdf
Page 13. Not a great abstract, but 200 word limits are hard.

>>49332166
plastic
you also know where to find them for cheap?
least I've found was 16 pounds on waylandgames

>>49332197
16GBP for 44 dudes is pretty cheap desu.

>>49328517
If it's in living memory, you're on thin ice.

That's it, really. What you and your gaming group do on thin ice is your own business, just don't be surprised when you fall in.

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>>49332166
I got the Samurai Battles game last christmas, did a quick job (still took about 8 maybe 12 hours) on assembling everything and played a whole bunch of games of it back then, decided since I've nothing better to work on, I might as well properly assemble and paint everything now. And at some point stick everything on something magnetic and use magnetic sheet on some bases so storage and set up isn't as much of a pain in the arse.

Still, better than doing it in 28mm. Got a 'Never Again' thing going with 28mm and mass battle games after my ECW army...

>>49330376
Out of curiosity, what country do you live in?

>>49333624
Slick as fuck.

I'm depressed, can we post cool looking tables/miniatures please

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>>49334027
Nothing says cheery like Stalingrad

>>49334146
muh dick

>>49332189
>WELSH
laughingIceniwenches.jpg

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>>49332189
Ouch, 200 words could be tough. I presented a poster at the Geological Society of America's convention last spring and the abstract could be up to something like 2000 words and I think you could include at least 1 figure.

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>>49334346
That looked a lot better in the thumbnail

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BT-7s and BA-6s complete! Time for a light tank spam soviet list. These guys plus 9 T-70s and some infantry and a howitzer battery.

>>49336216
how can you competently paint tanks but not infantry?

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>>49336239
To be fair to the man, painting tanks is significantly easier when compared to painting infantry.

>>49336294
I strongly disagree

>>49336239
My wash failed on the infantry, ended up just graying them up instead of highlighting the recesses. Tanks are pretty easy, and I've had a lot of experience hand painting those stars!
Hopefully I'll solve my wash issues with the next batch of infantry

>>49336311
You can paint a tank up to table standards by spraying the base coat, giving it a wash and drybrushing/painting another light coat.

Infantry requires painting more than one or two colours and actually requires you to paint something other than basically flat surfaces.

>>49292000

Anyone got anything for 18th century naval games?

Need me some blackpowda

>>49337037
check the Naval Wargaming folder in the OP, senpai

>>49337037
Tons of stuff in the Horse&Musket, Napoleonic and Naval Wargaming folders.

>>49329164
>Also Napoleonic wars someone once suggested some soldiers memoirs but i forget the title
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Walter