EDH/Commander General

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Post 'em boys

>4 player game
>value frog deck
>pull lord of extinction
>literally a 70/70
>mono red deck top decks duplicant and kills me with my own creature
fuck you cameron I reposted this because I know you're here

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I haven't played with my "competitive" playgroup in a while because of work.
It is less of a playgroup as it is more I go to my LGS and play in the free commander tournament since it is a ten minute walk.

The Nin deck is also something I just made, no idea what the full potential is.

>>49288722
I wish he wasn't so slow

>>49288722
why not just play kaalia?

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Anyone got any good Sydri lists that don't cost an arm and a leg?

My current set up. Replace Feldon with Shirei.

>>49288767
He is slow, but I still have fun with him. He seems to do better in larger games where he can lay low for a little bit if he needs to, but then wreck shit real quick once he gets the pieces he needs.

>>49288780
Cause I like tutoring and I like Zirilan.

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What are some cards with hideous art that you play anyway?

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>>49288903
>mfw rain of filth
>mfw cabal ritual
>mfw I kill the entire table

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Anyone have suggestions for my Queen Marchesa? It leans a bit towards etb goodstuff because I threw in a few of my favourite cards. It could stand to be more focused maybe on stax/pillowfort or even simple mardu beats. PS I've lost my copies of Anguished and Crackling Doom somewhere
http://deckstats.net/decks/44877/565235-marchesa-queen-of-thots

>>49288903
Kede-rekt Leviathan. It's a swimming lump of shit but I just can't say no. Otherwise most stuff I play is pleasing to look at

>>49288950
My brother put together a Marchesa pillowfort and it's annoyingly good. He stalls forever, prevents damage, and builds his hand advantage with monarch.

>>49288950
>That mana curve

fix that

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>>49288903

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>>49288903
I run this dark ritual just because the art is awful, particularly compared to the earlier printings.

>>49288780
Because one guy playing mono-B shouldn't be able to shit on your deck that hard.

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>>49289139
you're not serious right

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>>49288903
The funny part is, this is the best art version of this card.

the others doesn't compare to this one, especially relating to the card's name.

Anyone here live in LA and play at their LGS? I'm thinking about hitting up one of the bigger ones in the city near me for the first time for their EDH Mondays and I wanted to see if anyone has been there and knows how the crowd usually is.

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>>49289163
Come on anon, at least the other one's flavor text is on point.

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>>49288903

>>49289157
I haven't lost to Kaalia yet with my Kokusho deck, so I'm at least a little serious.

>>49289163
>>49289185

But the one I posted has the flavor text on point, from a likeable commander.

>>49289208
Best art hands down but i find it hard to believe you play it in any deck, even if it was a fallen empires tribal only edh

>>49289260
It's a janky card I include on my Endrek deck.

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>>49289208
>Ebon Praetor
So that thing made Elesh Norn?

>>49289248
>fellow Chainer bro
My double nigga.

>>49289285
He is such a fun commander. I like it being so that he's also below the radar that not many people know him, let alone use him.

His favorite pet is Kokusho.

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>>49288738
sup /soc/

>>49289329
Yeah, he's pretty great. Criminally underrated as a monoblack commander, but I kind of like it that way. It also helps that I was really getting into Magic around the time Torment came out. My first deck was a Pestilence deck, and I soon moved onto MBC for Odyssey Block Constructed. Been loving Chainer and Cabal Coffers ever since. /blog

Also, I prefer Gary, but I run a lot of enchantments to support the devotion subtheme.

>>49289378
What are the best sac outlets for Chainer? Besides Phyrexian and Ashnod Altars.

>>49289393
Carrion Feeder?

>>49289393
I run Infernal Tribute, Attrition, Mind Slash, Dimir House Guard (such a goddamn house in Chainer), and Altar of Dementia. I was unimpressed with the mana altars, honestly, but I run a metric fuckton of mana doublers.

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>>49288738
we play with more people at the LGS, but these are the closest to me

>>49289427
>Infernal Tribute

I'm not the only cool kid anymore that uses it in EDH.

my nigga

>>49289272
Touchè
>Dat synergy

>>49289467
IMO it's the weakest of the sac outlets, but there have been games where I was running out of gas and being able to turn extraneous land drops into cards was the difference between winning and losing. The art is pretty great, too.

In other news I finally cut Army of the Damned from my list. I included it as an alternate win condition that didn't rely on graveyards or absurd amounts of mana, but here lately I've never been happy to see it.

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>Cards you play that nobody else does

This nigga is a powerhouse in my sultai deck because everyone is UG so you always hit the treasure trove

>>49289497
I mainly use it to re-use Spine of Ish Sah as one of my few enchantment destroyers, or in rare occasions my Phyrexian Arena or even Necropotence.

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>>49289521
As a commander (work in progress)

I'm actually >>49289456

Yeah. I've never seen tymaret hit the field apart from me, and I remember him being spoiled and being incredibly excited to try a weird experimental deck revolving around continually restarting the game over and over, sending him to the yard each time he dies.

It won't be competitive, but it'll be fun to try out!

>>49289521
Does Withering Boon count, even though that cat's out of the bag at this point?

>>49289533
Good point. I replaced Spine with Scour from Existence when BfZ dropped, because hot damn is instant speed Vindicate amazing when the mana cost is inconsequential.

The +3 black devotion is a nice side effect, too.

I run Scour, Oblivion Stone, Nevinyrral's Disk, and All is Dust to help deal with enchantments and artifacts, though being able to reanimate Acidic Slime or Reclamation Sage to deal with them is delicious.

So much fuck Rest in Peace, though. I can mostly play around it but when it's dropped and I'm in the middle of setting up my finisher it's pretty unfun. That and Winter Orb are very difficult for my deck to counter.

>>49289575
Black and artifact infect cards on him then sacrifice all the tokens
>Hail to the King

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>>49289521

>>49289603
I run both. Scour and Spine. Though I need more sac outlets, and Sadistic Hypnotist is climbing in price too, when I got him he was only at 50 cents.

And I actually run Withering Boon in my ultra janky Orzhov fat Teysa Voltron deck. The only time I played that card, it saved my life and won me the game.

My friend was about to counter my wincon with a creature to stop it, then he tried to copy my Withering Boon with Reverberate, but then I pointed it out that its only a "counter creature spell". Sweet Victory.

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>>49289521

:^)

>>49289643
Withering Boon (and Warping Wail) are so good. Being able to counter stuff outside of blue is always so unexpected and can lead to complete blow outs.

>Sadistic Hypnotist is $3
what

I played him before I added in Mind Slash and it was a tough cut. Pinpoint discard is just better in my combo/control meta. Being reanimatable is definitely a plus, though.

What are your thoughts on Sadistic Sacrament as a preemptive combo hoser?

The more I see of Kaladesh vehicles, the more I think thicc Depala will have enough to be at least casually playable. Each one has higher power than cmc, and most have a strong effect, or an alternate use. I hope they devote as many rare slots to dwarves too. Maybe it'll seem pushed and stupid to everyone else, but I'll rejoice alone.

>>49289139

How does removal not shit on zirilan just as hard as it shits on kaalia??

worth playing? Suggestions? I'm trying to design him but i'm looking for a point to start from

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>>49289781
oops forgot pic

>>49289793
>>49289781

What the fuck are you even asking?

Its just a French vanilla beater with antique charm

It's not powerful and it doesn't provide any deck building direction whatsoever

Is it worth building? how are we supposed to answer that for you?

How should you build it? Again, how are we supposed to answer that for you? It's a fuckin vanilla beater, play literally whatever the fuck you want with it

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>>49289793
>>49289781

Only worth playing for the OG status.
Ask your friends if they want to play some EDH, and when they pull out narset/derevi/oloro (anybody that isn't an original elder dragon) make a sneering, disgusted face. Remind them you offered to play ELDER DRAGON HIGHLANDER

but yeah, build a solid Esper deck that doesn't necessarily need chromium, and when you're so far in the lead it doesn't really matter, go ahead and cast him to beat your opponents to death with for shits n giggles

Why do combofags get so angry when they get teamed up on?
>opponent playing strong deck that will win easily if left unchecked
>I can't handle it alone so I team up with some other decks to keep the combo player off killing us all and ending the game
Do they want people to just roll over for them? And then they get mad when people don't want to ally with them. Yeah, sorry, I don't want to make an ally who will kill everyone, myself included at once. That's the cost of playing combo. You can't engage in politics.

>>49289456
The tyramet player looks fun. I'm slowly falling in love with prison and stax

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I've wanted a reason to play this thing since it came out but I've never known where it'd fit. I'm thinking it would actually work really well on Marchesa. Thoughts?

>>49289781
Throw him in the trash and make oloro pillowfort with that new artifact that kills a player when you hit 50 life

>>49289872
>playing suboptimal decks and then disguising your shitterness with MUH POLITICS

>>49289903

So, what, EDH should be a non-interactive race to whoever gets their ultimate combo off first then?

>>49289888

I've always hated that this doesn't redirect combat damage to the player

Because of that I can't imagine ever playing it, too situational for 4 mana

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>>49289793
>>49289781
I really wouldn't bother. The OG Elder dragons cost too much mana outside of hard ramp decks, and rampage 2 doesn't bring anything to the table, especially in Esper.

I run pic related. Even in a heavy ramp deck it's hard to get him onto the field, and after a couple removals there's no point in trying outside of super long games.

For other OG Elder Dragons I'd consider Bolas because his hand-killing ability is good if it connects, but there are other commanders i'd rather run in Grixis. The rest simply aren't worth 8 mana plus 3 per turn.

>>49289903
Way to prove his point, Senor Salty.

>>49289888
I run it with her. It's one of those cards I've played since I could buy one but just haven't drawn it. It seems really sweet, like illusionists gambit with explosions

>>49289903
>caring about having the 100% optimized deck instead of having a fun time
I believe you're looking for the modern general, friendo.

>>49289915
That is exactly what edh is, hell magic in general besides standard that is forced to interact

>>49289942
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The most fun edh decks to play have a little combo and a lot of interaction, in my opinion

I think you want your deck to be able to disrupt your opponents early on or you're going to hate playing against fast all in combos

But I think you also want to be able to quickly close out the game from a position of advantage or too many games will slip away from you, also it's fun to have big explosive turns

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>>49289759
>>49288780

I think it's cause zirilian is one more mana to cast than Kaalia and also 52 bucks cheaper

When you cast Kaalia and she gets removed, the player will generally always just try to ramp into her again and go for the same strategy. When it fails again, it's not worth casting her, as you can just hard cast the beaters by that point. Kaalia also cheats creatures from hand, where zirilian is from deck I believe (only for a turn though)

Zirilian makes the most of firebreathing effects, encourages jank old dragons, and even not worrying about the commander being fucked immediately. Its nice if he survives, but not necessary.

At the end of the day, They are completely different commanders. Sure they both can cheat dragons on the field and have red in the deck, but that's it

>>49289886
I'm the tymaret player! And yeah, me too. Stax is very fun to pilot.

>>49289872

Everybody is trying to win, everybody is trying to make you lose

Combo players just don't want you to give wins to other people out of fear of losing to combo

Whether they are right or your table is right for ganging up on them is something that can only be answered for the specific situation and game in question

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>>49289896
>oloro

>>49289983

Well I would never play zirilan nor kaalia because I don't like decks that rely so heavily on the commander

I was just saying that one guy bragging about his mono b deck removing kaalia all day is retarded for thinking that's a weakness of kaalia relative to zirilan

>>49289998
Sure, everyone is trying to make me lose, but a non-combo ally is going to try to make me lose maybe 5 turns down the line. A combo ally still might make me lose next turn.

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>>49290011
I think we can all agree that a weakness of every deck that has synergy with its commander suffers to heavy and repeated removal.

>>49290025

It all comes down to specifics

My friend has a UW control deck with ephara that doesn't have a quick infinite combo win, but the game is essentially over many turns before he actually kills everybody, because once he has a certain amount of cards in hand and mana in play, he can't be beat

Maybe the combo player isn't really the biggest threat to you, sometimes that person playing the attrition deck may already have you nearly beat without having anything too crazy on board

That said, I think the most important thing here is that you can't make allies unless you have something to offer your ally. An all-in combo deck has nothing to offer the team, little removal, few counterspells, no combat damage, so of course their opponents have no reason to ally with them. Even if somebody else was the bigger threat, the combo player is no help as part of the alliance anyway

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Which legendary creature has the best art?

Forget color(s), mechanics, cmc, etc

By art alone

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>>49290086
Well, my favourite Theros god

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This card won't end up being expensive, right? Considering it for my Sisay build.

>>49290025
>falling for the "combo players are the biggest threat" meme
Yeah okay go ahead and team up with the friendly pillowfort player who would never ever dream of hurting you, you fucking cuck. Honestly players like you are cancerous. Any time someone tries to do something interesting you scream OP and beg the table to team up on them. That's exactly what the pillowfort wants you to do, so congrats on gifting them yet another victory. You gonna let them go home and fuck your gf too?

That's right, you don't have one.

>>49288741
Cameron sounds like a big dick nigga. Enjoy being cucked frogboy

>>49290264
"this player finds combo threatening sometimes and so he's a pillowfort cuck"
>implying pillowfort stax bullshit isn't also something worth teaming up on
And I'm not calling combo OP. I know it's a legitimate means of winning. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna just roll over and let them kill everyone. Are you OK? You seem upset that the eighth time in a row you kill with kiki-conscripts on turn 5, people might start targeting you. Show us on the doll where the force of will touched you, anon.

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>>49290086

>>49288741
>lord of extinction
>no haste
>no evasion

M8 you're playing gitgud toad, in a colour thats gonna have a blocker and a colour thats gonna have removal.

>>49290239
Could be good in a Karlov deck

>>49290264
>so much sodium the heart foundation removed their tick of approval

Show us on the doll where the bad oloro touched you

>>49290264
I want you to know I agree with your tactics, but I think you're gay at the same time.

>>49289888
I fought a Borborygmos with a full hand using two instances of spot removal, a Comeuppance and a Reiterate targeting Comeuppance.

I unfortunately lost because he had a Dictate and I had virtually no life, so the last two cards in his hand killed me but man I've never gotten a stack so thick in Mardu.

>>49290949
Are you retarded?

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Can y'all help me convince my playgroup that Purphoros isn't that annoying of a commander? He was my first really well constructed edh deck, and I've love him ever since. Purph has painted a perma-bullseye on my forehead ever since, and my entire playgroup hates him so much. I just wanna wath the world burn ;_;
This one guy especially complains almost daily about him. Thoughts on Purphoros and his power?

>>49288722
Why not Scion if you want those tribal dragon good times?

>>49291074
Purphoros can end games too quickly for some players to enjoy playing against him. I generally don't have a problem with him, but if I run colours that have a hard time dealing with him I'll target him out of necessity.

>>49291093
Five color commanders are boring to me. And I like having the option to exploit artifacts to keep my dragons on the field, where Scion has to play with the graveyard if he wants to do that.

Also I feel like if you're playing dragon tribal and you're not playing mono red you're just doing it wrong. But I do understand his appeal.

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>>49290086
There's no contest, famalam.
Liliana, Heretical Healer is my wallpaper at work though

>tfw want to get into EDH
>tfw the mana base alone would probably kill my wallet

I'd love to play Marchesa pillowfort/goodstuff.

I have some creatures lying around, avacyn, angel of hope, elesh norn, new gisela and old gisela, new bruna but no idea if they would even fit in the deck.

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>>49290086
Easily the best.

>>49290086
Elesh Norn, Avacyn and Skythirix.

>>49291074
The problem with purphoros is he really can't play politics and naturally has the highest life total.

>>49291074
Purphoros is one of my favourite commanders in the format tied with Trostani and Hazezon Tamar, he was also my first commander and I love him to bits. But even I admit he can be a bit unfair to play against, at least for casuals. Last week I won the first round of my local EDH league by killing the other four players in one turn with Purphoros and Dictate of the twin gods.

>>49291136
My list is near the top, it's getting there. Same idea of mostly using stuff I have lying around. Karakas I got through a decent trade.
Manabases don't have to be expensive, the best mana sources have been printed in supplemental products and there are heaps of duals which see zero play anywhere else
This site has rare ones, but the search engines are your friend http://mtg.trobinson.ca/dualLands.php

>>49291207
Oh, I see, thanks. Looks like the only expensive stuff would be the shock duals and the lorwyn duals but that's it. I use most of the stuff I have lying around in other decks sadly, so every time I want to play something new I have to order everything from scratch.

>>49288792
Interested in knowing the decklist of ...
Trostani
Kozilek
Brago
Bruna
Meren
and
Azusa

I know its a lot but I'm assuming you have them on tapped out.

Thanks :D

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>>49290055
Its my time to shine

>>49291044
Karlov likes consistent lifegain and if you go voltron its very likely you have three or more artifacts out. I don't see your problem.

>>49291074
just put purphoros in your 99 and have norin as commander bud

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Just got this guy from my LGS yesterday. How a budget deck build around him should look like? What are some must have cards for him? I really want to not empty my wallet but this big guy looks so good

>>49292075
In estimates you want ten rocks, ten draw cards, ten pingers, thirty fatties, and forty lands. Maybe some haste enchantments.

>>49289497
I run Infernal Tribute as well, and I dislike the fact that you can't sac tokens with it, but every permanent works, thankfully. Even itself

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Reposting from last thread:

>mfw just discovering the power of Sydri
>mfw I have enough of the cards listed on edhrec to bring the price of the deck I want to build down to around 80 bucks

I mean, edhrec pretty much lists most of the combos that go with her. Any secret tech any of you have before I start building this thing?

>>49292517
Caltrops
Staff of Nin
The new Water tower in Kaladesh
Voltaic Construct combos with all your artifacts now, too.
Urza's Armor (nice effect, big ass cost)
Farsight Mask (same thing)
Portcullis
Lethal Vapors

>>49292075
Tunneling geopede
Nettle drone (combo with Ancestral Statue)
Lobber crew (combos kinda with Rakdos)

My favorite fatties when I built the deck were:
The Eldrazi Titans
Maga, Traitor to Mortals
Knollspine Dragon (doubles down on hand dumping)
The red Myojin
Pathrazer of Ulamog

I also made the deck into a game accelerator with all the damage doubling effects, havoc festival, and wound reflection. You're also gonna want card draw and mana fixing - the deck likes playing fatties, but unless you're going eldrazi tribal, fatties tend to like triple-pip colored mana costs.

Disciple of bolas, and any other "draw equal to power" effects are also baller.

>>49289456
Post your Tymaret list, I'm intrigued

>>49291207
Karakas is b& m8

>>49290086
Nebuchadnezzar
Based RKF

Alright /edh/senpais, I just barely wrapped up building my Athreos Clerics deck and now I want to move onto my next project; however, I can't decide if that project is going to be All-In Nin Combos or a Rakdos deck with either Tsabo or Tymaret at the helm.

Any advice?

>>49289674
new to EDH so this might be a stupid question but would that card work similar to Winter Orb?

>>49293504
Static Orb

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>be somewhat new to mtg (about 3 months of playing actively)
>have developed a very aggressive playstyle
>typically focus on making my opponent lose rather than myself win, if that makes sense (ie. i'm ready to fuck myself over if it also fucks my opponent over)
>turns out it works really well in 1v1 drafting and playing, typically 70%-ish winrate in cube drafting despite playing against more experienced players
>turns out it also works really fucking poorly in EDH
>both my deck and my playstyle only really lend themselves to make other players lose rather than myself win
>typically put 1 opponent in the dumpster within 5-6 turns and then promptly lose because the remaining 2 freak out and kill me
>played like 10-12 EDH games with xenagod and won 1

god damnit i love this deck but i just can't win with it

>>49293137
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tymaret-pain-game/update/

It's a work in progress, ignore the **altered** cards, it's a trick I use to see which cards I have when I order cards.
Any suggestions?

>>49293645
>thing works well in 1v1
>thing doesn't work well with 2 other opponents that will stop your bullshit once they see it
Gee who'da thunk

Also you're overextending. Maybe don't blow your load all over one person's face if you can't hit the other people at the same time

>>49293645
You need to start thinking more strategically and stop speeding up the game. EDH games are sometimes fast but have their own pace too compared to other mtg gametypes. If you begin dealing an insane amount of damage asap then unless your opponents are new you WILL be the main target. It's called aggro, right?

The same is true for mill decks. When I play and im in a multiplayer game with Oona I take my time and only mill occasionally or when I get a bit of damage from an opponent. If I'm playing 1v1 though I go full ham.

>>49293747
it's not really overextending as much as "eating every spot removal once i reach full speed"

i don't really know how to make people stop screwing with my stuff besides killing them dead

>>49293806
i don't really know how to play defensively with xenagos. the commander and the deck archetype does bascially nothing if you're not actively smashing shit, and most primers tell you to smash shit immediately. i dont know. i do much better in online play with the same deck, but that might be because i have more time to read card effects and most of the people there dont know how explosive my deck can get

>>49291265
I've got Kozilek, Meren, and Brago on tappedout.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blink182-2/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kozilek-the-great-game-ender/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meren-of-clan-nel-toth-reanimator-4/

Just be aware that I have made a few edits here and there between these decks so not everything is 100% in there anymore.

Shoot my account a message if you wanna see the other lists.

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I did it guys, I ordered the final foil card I was missing for my Niv Mizzet deck.

>>49293504
Untap =/= upkeep

>>49293989
Damn son that is some sexy foiling. How much did it cost you?

>>49294035
$220

>>49294040
Definitely worth it, 10/10 would love to see the fully foiled list. I'm a sucker for pimping decks. I'm building foil Asuza at the moment and I can't wait to nab the judge art.

>>49293872
Then you should probably get around to making another deck. Doesn't have to be expensive. But if you play with one deck all the time people easily learn to be able to respond easily to it.

>>49294102
yeah i've been thinking of making one. probably like a polar opposite of xenagos, ie. stax/control that hits everyone, or a lifegainy group slug or something like that. i still like being active and pillow forting disgusts me. i've also liked the deck archetype of getting tons of value from saccing (grave pact, threaten effects, etc)

any budget suggestions? i'm thinking of a 100 dollaridoo budget for it, so it helps if it runs jank that no one else wants and it doesn't matter if it's not super tryhard

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>>49292075
Obligatory

>>49294054
Was gonna link my decklist but then realized I had swapped like 20 cards in it since I last updated it.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/niv-mizzet-the-firemind-16/

Here you go.

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>>49289521
>Turn 3 doublestrike towards an open board

Yeah you wont survive afterwards, but fuck is it a great feeling

>>49294288
>>49294035
And here's my second foil EDH deck.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/animar-edh-51/

Currently it's missing ONE card from being fully foiled as well, Gaea's Cradle

As you can see on both of the lists, they aren't optimized at all.

Neither deck runs any infinite combos, and the Animar deck runs nothing but lands and creatures. Nothing else.

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a-am I "that guy" if I have Kruphix as my commander? I just like playing big dumb spells

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>>49289711
Depala is probably only going to be viable in standard constructed with Start Your Engines. There's hardly enough cards to fit with dwarves+vehicles. Ulrich finally got enough werewolves to make werewolf tribal a thing, but even then that took what, 5 sets to fill up and not be janky?

I might try to convince my playgroup to make this an honorary commander

I really want to make an vehicle deck too

>>49291136
The beauty of EDH is that it's a very casual format and if you don't have the money for a top tier deck, you're still going to be able to have fun. Often when you're playing in a group, the way the format is designed to be played, people focus on taking out the best decks first. You don't need to destroy your wallet to have fun with EDH.

>>49294483
>run blue green
>not realizing you became a that guy when you decided to run simic

>tfw my 3 most expensive decks add up to $11000
>I still have 7 more decks

I'm new to commander. I really like defensive/control decks, and don't have many expensive cards. Which of the following should I build around: Elesh Norn, Archangel Avacyn, Geth, Obzedat, or Korlash?

>>49294188
$20 Mikaeus

>>49294684
Obzedat is the only one there that fits, all the other are monocolored, which is pretty bad in EDH.

>>49294696
Alright. Should I focus more on mass removal/floodgating cards, or should I include some spot removal too?

>>49294695
With shipping?

>>49294709
What you can't afford an extra 5-10 bucks shipping?

Edh may not be for you.

>>49294707
mass is better, but you should still play some of the best single target removals.

Like Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Utter End, etc

>>49294734
Newfag spotted.

>>49294695
thanks, i'm gonna try this out on xmage

i still kind of want to check out new grenzo chaos and some sort of rakdos fuckery. i really wish rakdos had some better commanders since i love the colors

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>>49294684
I agree with >>49294696
Orzhov is pretty innately defensive, and has access to lots of removal

>>49289693
I would run it on a player that you already know always wins with the same tiring combos.

I used to run it but none of my meta has combos so in the end, I took it out.

So depends on your group.

>>49294746
Sure you can make a really great deck for cheap. You can usually make a better deck for a bit more though.

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>>49290086

what is it that makes Simic such a powerful color combo compared to others?

>>49294840
Yeah definitely.

It's just that when the $20 Mikaeus decklist was first made a few years ago, one guy insisted on the decklist not actually being below $20 because the shipping fees weren't counted in the overall price. As a result, EDH general was a shitfest for over a week.

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How do you use your Athreos?

I fucking love the Sacrifice/Lifedrain combos. I put out Xathrid, Ayli, Athreos, Blood Traitor and later, Butcher of Malakir, then a 1 CMC Human. Suddenly, I'm sacrificing this human, it's doing 1 damage to each other player, forcing players to Sac a creature, giving me 1 life, and giving me a 2/2 zombie token... all for 1 mana. Then Athreos returns that one human to my hand, unless someone pays 3 life, and I get to repeat that every turn for as long as I have mana.

Not to mention Athreos' artwork is kickass.

I'll post my deck list later for you guys to review.

>>49294851
Xenagos Ascended is better desu, shame it isn't legal.

>>49294883
So? It's a given that shipping fees are added to whatever amount of cards you buy online. Are you trying to rile that shit fest back or are you just trying to argue for the sake of arguing? I don't get it.

>>49294857
Ramp, draw & answers

>>49294857
ramp and draw and big green dudes and big blue stuff (looking at you omniscience) and counterspells etc etc etc

>>49294895
Politics. I have a lot of O-Ring style creatures and instant speed sac outlets. Drop a Fiend Hunter targeting player B's fatty, tell player C that if he lets me bring it back to my hand I'll sac the hunter right now and keep the fatty gone for good.

Martyr's Cause is an all star in the deck and if you use it to save other people every now and then you would be amazed what they would be willing to do for you later. Attrition is also pretty solid.

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>>49294857
A better question is why all the simic legendaries synergize with eachother so well.

But to answer your question, they control combat with massive creatures and they control the stack with counterspells + removal

>>49294932
Glad to see you are still browsing /EDHG/, guy who insists shipping is included in deck prices.

>>49294999
not that guy but shipping should totally just be factored into costs. same with tax. what you see is what you pay should really be the way things work.

>>49295015
Well it isn't, because the shipping prices and taxes varies drastically from area to area, so it is fucking impossible to include.

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would it be possible to make an EDH deck entirely based around FEELS, whether in art, flavor text, or both?

probably with Feldon as the commander

>>49295034
Ah so you are trying to start the shit fest again. GG. Nice job staying on topic, faggot.

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>>49295042
Hell yeah, mono red + artifacts

>>49295068
No, I explained to him the background for the joke some other anon said, you're the one who brought it up in response to that explanation. I'm just responding to the topic you brought up.

What are some good enchantments in BW for pillowforting?

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post meme commanders

>>49295129
Nora's annex, ghostly prison off the top of my head.

>>49295144
Koskan Falls

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>>49295143

>>49295144
Holy fuck, Norn's Annex is amazing. Is Painful Quandary worth running?

>>49295143
What combos can you do with Norin, seems weak.

>>49295279
Yes I run it in mine

>>49295303
anything that abuses ETB triggers

but yeah, he's pretty weak

My play group tends to have very long matches like 2-3 hours ones. Often at times it even goes up to 5 hours.

Any suggestions on decks that speed up the game and fucks over life gain decks?

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>>49289456
Fuck you Tim

>>49295318
the new Monarch mechanic helps get the ball rolling a little bit

>>49294288
>>49294481
Fucking gorgeous. Good job anon.

What IS a Spike, Johnny, and Timmy?

>>49295318
>fucks over life gain deck

erebos literally LITERALLY stops life gain

or just play something so aggressive that everyone has no choice but to react, like xenagos, krenko or whatever

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>>49295357

Thinking about making a meme Norin deck designed to piss people off (possibility storm, warp world, etc.)

what are some cards that would fit perfectly in such a deck?

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>>49295143
Fuck you wotc it will never flip in edh, don't even bother

>>49295357
"Timmy likes to win big. He doesn’t want to eke out a last minute victory. Timmy wants to smash his opponents. He likes his cards to be impressive, and he enjoys playing big creatures and big spells."

"Johnny is the creative gamer to whom Magic is a form of self-expression. Johnny likes to win, but he wants to win with style. It’s very important to Johnny that he win on his own terms. As such, it’s important to Johnny that he’s using his own deck. Playing Magic is an opportunity for Johnny to show off his creativity."

"Spike is the competitive player. Spike plays to win. Spike enjoys winning. To accomplish this, Spike will play whatever the best deck is. Spike will copy decks off the Internet. Spike will borrow other players’ decks. To Spike, the thrill of Magic is the adrenalin rush of competition. Spike enjoys the stimulation of outplaying the opponent and the glory of victory."

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so this can still tap for mana when it's not a creature, right?

>>49295578
Drivable mana rock. I like it

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>>49295578
Anyone else think Feldon is going to become a serious contender in Kaladesh EDH? I mean, existing Artifact Creatures + New Artifacts, combined with a Red Sac deck that uses Barrage Tyrant and similar.

>>49295445
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wait-what-norin-the-wary/

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>>49289521
Seedtime

>>49295578
correct.

Can also tap for mana while it is a creature, so long as it didn't enter the battlefield since your last turn.

>>49289127
Please explain to someone that doesn't play MTG why this isn't pure shit?

>>49289127
I love giving that to someone with Zedruu

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>>49295803
Donate to an opponent, or combo it with this card

Any good beatdown cards in Abzan you guys think are less well known I'm trying to get stuff for Anafenza slugfest but only have like Fleecemane and Siege Rhino in mind for now.

>>49294895
Athreos is a trap commander. I've been trying to make him work for the same reasons, but 3 life isn't impactful, and anyone will pay it when it matters. More importantly, his ability isn't a *may* ability. He's anti-synergistic with any graveyard combo or even simple things like Bloodghast.
The best way to build him is fleshbag marauder.dec or Shadowborn Apostles. Even then, Ayli or Teysa are always going to be a better option for W/B.

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>>49295826
How about this?

>>49295824
I stopped playing around Saga, what is this "donate" mechanic? Cheers for the response.

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>>49295872
As the card name says, you give it to your opponent.

Many other cards can give that effect, like what >>49295814 mentioned.

>>49295910
I made my friend super salty when I gained control of his commander and then donated it to myself permanently.

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what is the best commander for trying to make copies of this guy and win?

>>49295673
What new creature is Feldon happy about?
Feldon is not strictly an artifact deck he is a "reanimator".

Panharmonicon, Ghirapur Orrery, Aetherworks Marvel are all great new artifacts but are not restricted to just artifact decks and don't benefit Feldon any differently compared to other commanders.

>>49295967
Riku

Or make it an alternative win con in a Bant deck and cast Mirrorweave.

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>>49295967
Riku of Two Reflections is the most consistent for it. Momir Vig if you're feeling promiscuous.

Regardless, it's really just pic related + anything simic

>>49296032
Wouldn't mirrorweave end the game in a draw if anyone else has 4 creatures on the battlefield?

>>49296107
It is a triggered ability. You just need to be on top of the stack when it goes off. So the combo needs to go off on an opponents turn.

Plus you are in Bant. Board control is easy for you.

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>Somebody plays Child of Alara
>While I've got Zurgo and a Grappling Hook out
Man I wish I'd had a Boros Charm in hand, that would have been a Christmasland miracle.

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What's the newest good stuff you've gotten for your deck? Pic related for me.

>>49296433
Someone plays Child of Alara as anything but their commander?

>>49296601
It was his commander, and I knew if he did it I'd be laughing all the way to the bank.
He didn't make the connection until I put the Grappling Hook on Zurgo and swung.

>get sick of losing because playing aggressive red stuff that goes big or goes home
>try literally anything else
>get bored because it takes fucking forever to do anything

some people are just born to play red i guess

>>49295318
MOTHER
FUCKING
HIDETSUGU

DROP THE GODDAMN NUKE

>>49296614
Then he could just put it in his command zone and nothing would happen, since it didn't die.

>>49293872
Archetype of Endurance.

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>tfw returning World Breaker from boardwipes to the hand then to the battlefield 4 times in a single match
>Cast-trigger
>Self-return
>Reach
>Nice 5/7 Body
>No colour, so not hatable
Gotta be my favorite non-legendary creature.

>>49295446
My issue has never been flipping her, it's been having her stolen after I do. I normally just avoid melding unless I've hit an answer spell for every player in hand.

>>49296695
i actually have that but i really don't really want to make my entire deck revolve around it. it's an 8 mana creature and it still gets hit by every mass removal. what i really want to do is get xenagos out by turn 3-4 and smash players to bits.

i feel like abusing archetype of endurance is more fitting to a ruric thar deck or something. i might actually rework my xenagos into one at some point if i ever get bored of him

>>49296594
Blightsteel is on its way

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>>49296594

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What are some of the best cards for mono black goodstuff?

>>49296594
>Phyrexian Delver
>Withered Wretch
>Phyrexian Unlife
>Plunge Into Darkness
>Stunt Double
>Mirror Mockery
>Reanimate
>Chainer, Dementia Master
>Winds of Change

All for Reaper King.

Chainer might get cut.

I'm also building a Child of Alara deck with:
>Kruphix, God of Horizons
>Riku of Two Reflections
>Radiate
>Soulfire Grand Master
>Beck/Call
>Show and Tell

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>>49296594
plus sneak attack

>>49296594
Traded off my extra FTV Venser and some other card for Vampiric Tutor.

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>>49289888
I've been loving it in Marchesa. You'll want to run Sunforger too.
>>49291074
I tend to target Purphoros as well. Having every opponent lose 6 life a turn is kind of anti-fun and anti-politics in my eyes. At least the deck is mono-red, so as long as you keep the commander off the table, the rest of the deck isn't too threatening.
>>49293645
Try more card draw effects, and maybe something like Constant Mists to buy you time to beatdown multiple players. Alternatively, add some tutors to find Hydra Omnivore.

I've been trying to make a deck for each 2 and 3 color combination (pic related). Anyone have any recommended generals/lists? Might convert Brago to Roon and Mazirek to Prossh.

Guys, I don't know what to remove for a Sensei's Divining Top. There are some obvious choices like Akroma/Yuan Shao but they're in there for "muh art/muh flavor". I'm seriously considering removing Thought Vessel. Halp.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kalemne-sitter-of-faces/

>>49292075
Almost forgot, Vedalken Orrery is GOD TIER in that deck, especially Eldrazi-heavy builds.

>>49295510
who timmy here

>>49295865
That could work well thanks man

>you will never own a Mishra's Workshop

>>49297129
serra ascendant, it gets hard countered by mental misstep

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>>49297332

>>49297254
MTGO
T
G
O

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>friend bought FTV Lore and is building a Memnarch deck
>2 of my best decks involve artifacts
Uh-oh. Time to start packing that Shattering Spree and Vandalblast in everything. And targeted LD for that Dark Depths that he's not even going to cheat the counters off of

Hey stax fellas: What's the highest you've ever brought the soot count on Smokestack?

>>49297641
>being so bad you need to panic against Memnarch
lol

>>49297717
3, to finish off the last few permanents before saccing it eot.

>>49297786
I just know he's going to drop that second ability on me all the time, because he likes to mess with me and I'm the only player in the group who runs a substantial amount of artifacts

>>49297420
(You)

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>>49297818
Pic related. Just throw in Expedition Map to help find it.

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First custom commander deck. Can I get a little feedback? (pic kind of related but not really)

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/pull-over-that-ass-too-fat-woop-woop/

>>49297977
Good idea. I'm also in red so Brand is another option

>>49297977
The flavour on that card is wonderful.

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I want to be an immortal life draining lich in this game, what's the best commander for it? At the moment I'm playing around with Ayli since she gives both life gain and a sac outlet, and can even remove stuff, which seems great.

Oh and if anyone has a good Ayli list in the 100-150 dollar range, that'd be great. Or it can cost a bit more than that, I can make cuts as needed

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I love the flavor and uniqueness of Grenzo, also Rakdos a best

if anyone has any advice for muh Grenzo deck, t'would be much appreciated
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grenzos-open-door-policy/

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>told my group that my next deck would contain green and no red
>still drawn to going tall stupid shit like Skullbriar
HELP

>>49298238
Ayli Cleric tribal for under $110.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eternal-clerics-1/

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>Sigarda comes down and instantly gets Shielded by Faith

Why is this allowed

>>49296594
Gisela, Bruna, Mikaeus, Queen Marchesa.

>>49298475
Counters are necessary

Question: How do you guys offload cards you don't want or never use? I have a ton of commons and uncommons that I never build with, either from when I was a goober and mass-cracked packs or from drafting, and I want to thin my collection. Would an LGS take them for store credit?

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>least favorite color in the pie is blue
>4/5 commander decks use blue

>>49298576
Yes, it's called bulk.

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>mfw I get Zurgo + Worldslayer to connect because the player before me boardwiped while I had a Boros Charm in hand.

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Why is this card $23 when Traumatize has a much better effect for mill decks

>>49298744
Because it's one of the best, and most popular, mill cards. A lot of new players (me included, half a decade ago) after making a couple of decks, discover UB mill, and this plus Mind Funeral are meme cards. doesn't make them less fun, they are fucking fantastic to cast

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anyone made a reaper king deck?

>>49298763
>>49298763
>A lot of new players (me included, half a decade ago) after making a couple of decks, discover UB mill
Doesn't help that Wizards really pushes mill in Dimir colors

>>49298332
Build Skullbriar. Just do it.

Put Glistening Oil on him once he's beefy and make it a race against time.

>>49298332
>skullbriar

He's ok

>>49298815
Yeah. Riptide Replicator, Progenitor Mimic, general clone effects and Artifact heavy scarecrows+changelings.

Rite of Replication kicked for maximum lulz.

>>49298744

Mill is better in modern and legacy than edh and traumatize is shit for modern and legacy

In a modern mill deck by the time you get to 5 mana, your opponents library is at like 25-35 so you're paying 5 mana to mill like 15 cards, which is garbage

>>49298186
Not a bad start, though I think some more card advantage would help out so you don't run out of gas or get blown out by a wrath.
Some suggestions: Wall of Blossoms, Wall of Omens, Soul of the Harvest, Phyrexian Arena, Underworld Connections, Night's Whipser, Sign in Blood, Ancient Craving, and/or Ambition's Cost.
Since you already have some defenders: Overgrown Battlement, Sylvan Caryatid, and Axebane Guardian provide decent ramp and synergy.
Honestly, I'd cut out the upkeep subtheme. All you're getting for that are vanilla beaters, and Doran already does a better job at making those.

>>49298941
He just looks fun. A hasty 2-drop that only gets bigger when he comes someone, and with all the +1/+1 counter shenanigans in green it might be groovy

>>49299096

I just picture Skullbriar sounding like Macho Man

Post G/W/x dankess. Sell me on GW. I want a GW/GW based deck but dont know where to start.
Im partial to enchantments, if that helps.

Why don't people use Arjun over Nekusar? He's so much more fun.

>>49299216

You don't play Nekusar for fun

>>49299201
GW is enchantment city, man

Maybe Krond

>>49299146
Oh man, I might just shout OOOOH YEAHH whenever I pop someone

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>>49298475
>Shielded by Faith
That's a cute.

>>49299201

G/W is pretty versatile, it has the tools to be grindy like G/B with it's good removal and recursion, it has good ramp, good tutors

Also it's obviously the ideal combo for enchantress since GW are the only colors in which enchantress effects appear and you want as many as you can get in an enchantress deck

I have 2 GW decks you can look at

captain sisay ramp and fatties
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/heros-gallery/?cat=type

Uril enchantress voltron
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/enchanted-afternoon/

>>49299216

Because black gives you waste not, Lilliana's caress/megrim, etc

Nekusar is probably the best deck for those powerful cards

>>49295446
Old player returning to magic here. How do you cast this? Can it only be brought into play by an ability?

Also, are non-mana activated abilities played as instants or sorceries? I legit can't remember. It's instants right?

Thanks everyone.

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>>49299470
The answer's gonna sound way wackier than it is. Brisela's a single creature on the back of two other creatures. When you have both of these creatures on the board, you turn them over onto their back sides and line them up so they're one creature.

And yes, activated abilities can be activated anytime an instant can unless it says otherwise.

>>49298358
I wasn't sure about going full-lifegain with Ayli but it seems like that might be the best thing to do, actually. Or what's the best thing to do with Ayli? Most spikes seem to love doing combos and dumb sac shit with her but I find tutoring for combos boring as fuck. I've been testing some of those decks out on xmage and they just feel lackluster. I'm gonna test out that cleric deck soon

What's the difference between Ayli and Teysa, Orzhov Scion? I'm guessing Ayli is more about life gain and Teysa is more about stax?

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I have a naya token deck. The only fliers in it is the reveillark/karmic guide combo and chaosphere. However I just took chaosphere out for rite of the raging storm. I was wondering if anyone has any anthem tech that would give me flying. I am thinking eldrazi monument, but I don't know yet.

>>49299696

Teysa is a token combo deck, Ayli is a lifegain deck

Stax goes well with tokens, Ayli can do a token theme too but the thing about her is that she is pretty shit when your life total is below 50 so you need to go all in on that plan

>>49299864
is ayli good if you don't intend to use combos? i only really like the control/lifegain aspects about her, and her control aspect is a really big "if". i don't know about that cleric tribal someone linked either, i feel like i'd rather not tie myself down to a tribal and instead focus more on goodstuffy cards

>>49300189
ok oops im a bit tired so i misread

point is i want a deck that does lifegain and control with the fun orzhov cards

How bad is Ghave Fungus tribal?

>>49299288
Thanks a lot anon, i appreciate it. These are sweet.

>>49300310
Ghave's a powerhouse no matter what, all he needs is creatures to run off. Fungus tribal will probably be fine, possibly even fun. Would play against.

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>friend buys me 4 packs of Dragon's Maze for my birthday
At least there was a Hallowed Fountain in one of them

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>>49296594
for my daretti deck. I can taste that delicious salt already

pic related + overloaded vandalblast/hellkite tyrant/nevinyrral's disk and darksteel forge/ unwinding clock

I still have hopes we'll get an izzet artificer legend in aether revolt

Trying out the format. I can't use Sorin as a commander right? If so any cool BW commanders out there? I bought the bw 2015 deck and have messed with it a bit.

>>49300652
How much does a good Daretti deck cost?

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>you will never explore pre-Eldrazi Zendikar
Feels bad

I want to go on an adventure

>>49300679
No, you can't use Planeswalkers as commanders unless its stated in the card, or your playgroup is ok with it. EDH is usually pretty flexible.

original Teysa is really good. run a bunch of tokens and sac outlets and combo off.

I have a Daxos deck too and while not very competitive I still like it quite a bit. run a bunch of wraths and enchantments to protect yourself (No Mercy, Blind Obedience, Karmic Justice) and token generators to slowly take over the game (Bitterblossom, Daxos himself, Sigil of the Empty Throne, Ajani's Chosen). I also run Eldrazi Conscription because why not.

>>49300679
Is it you, Chandere?

Ayli is a good start if you aren't sure what you're doing. She's a tiny toolkit in and of herself, and a low-cost commander is just straight up more enjoyable to play.

>>49300756
An adventure mapping out zendikar's ruins sounds about as much fun. No Roil before, no Roil again, finding shattered remnants of previously unexplored places as well as recently ravaged stuff we saw in good shape in original zendikar would be cool.

>>49300679
for just pure Orzhov the best is probably Teysa, Orzhov Scion which builds into a token deck with a combo end game. But the 2015 precon probably has all the most interesting ones as Karlov and Daxos build into decks with unique playstyles. Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim is also a spin on the life gain deck though it goes "tall" with its lifegain by gaining lots of life at once whereas Karlov prefers to go "wide' with lots of individual triggers, no matter how little you actually gain, and the general playstyles are also different with a tuned Ayli probably having a combo wincon involving clerics and infinite life, versus Karlov who tends to play an aggressive Voltron deck which is probably a little weaker but in my opjnion he's more fun to build around due to the nature of requiring a lot of life gain where Ayli doesn't require as much, just that you gain a lot at once which you can get with fewer individual cards than Karlov being thirsty for triggers, especially since she's also a life gain engine herself.

>>49300756
Cosnidering the Eldrazi are both directly and indirectly responsible for most of the ancient ruins and artifacts that define Zendikar I don't think there's a lot of what makes it Zendikar lies in the time before the Eldrazi.

>>49300756
you can draft it

>>49300705
he is not a very competitive commander but a pretty decent one id say around $250. it can cost way more with all that super expensive mana rocks though.

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>>49298475
>Make an enchantress Sigarda on Cockatrice to test it out and shit

Why do I even bother playing RW, this is just depressing. Every time I make a deck with blue or green, I actually get to do things throughout the game, rather than choke and start playing hellbent after turn 5~

JUST

>>49300895
>Cockatrice

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>>49300882
>he is not a very competitive commander

>>49300895
Wizards really is trying hard to get White some card advantage. I think White's had a piece of every new card drawing mechanic for a while now.

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>>49296594
For my mono-black goodstuff.

>>49300920
Not him, he's fine but he's not top tier or anything. Probably around tier 2 I'd say. Which is still good but I think it's clear he's on a different level than a lot of the best ones.

>>49300803
>>49300823
>>49300829
I already run tokens in Modern and would like a break from them. Gonna try the Ayli route. Thanks guys. And no I am not chandere.

Who's more interesting to build and run, Brago or Roon? Does Roon's extra color overcome Brago's mechanics?

>>49300944
brago is better but I think Roon is more fun. Getting green for flicker is huge and being able to hit opponents creatures opens up more play avenues. also he is a rhino.

>>49300909
You got a better idea for goldfishing without any hassles?

>>49300937
I'd probably take a look at MartyrProc as its probably the closest equivalent Ayli has in 60 cards.

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>>49300823
>Ayli is a good start if you aren't sure what you're doing. She's a tiny toolkit in and of herself, and a low-cost commander is just straight up more enjoyable to play.

this is just my opinion but i think yeah, ayli is way easier to utilize but her overall impact is fairly low later on. like, let's look at her overall value

body: 2/3 for 2 mana, decent, but turns very good with deathtouch

ability 1: 1 mana to sac something and gain its toughness as health. decent for putting stuff in the graveyard, and this guarantees you will just about always have a sac outlet. but what you gain from the sac outlet is actually very miniscule in EDH since life is generally a worthless resource as long as it's above 0 with very few exceptions

ability 2: sac something and exile a nonland permanent. seems very good on paper, but then you realize how conditional it is

>you need something to sac
>you need 50 life or more
>you need 1 colorless, 1 white and 1 black mana

and now it's suddenly just a normal recurrable vindicate that costs a creature to sac. it's not bad, but it's not worth building around. it won't even be available when you're getting run down by damage

imo, ayli seems like she works best as a good early defender and guaranteed sac outlet. everything else about her is just bonus and shouldn't really be built around. she is fairly nice in the respect that she's cheap, she'll always be around and no one will bother trying to remove her like many other orzhov commanders. but she does feel a bit "casual" since she doesn't really enable crazy interactions like teysa or whoever

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>tfw getting the most expensive cards out of the way when you're building a deck

>>49300967

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blink-blink-nudge-nudge/

This does look pretty entertaining

>>49300921
I just hope they (eventually) give us a RW legend that can actually generate card advantage. Even if it's looting, Daretti can do some really great things even though he's technically not generating any card advantage.

>>49300935
Yeah I guess I agree. I think being mono-red is his biggest drawback, but he's still real strong. He's the boogeyman in my group anyway, I haven't played the deck in a while

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>reading "competitive EDH" discussions
I need to stop, they are poisoning my mind

>>49300577
>Hallowed Fountain
>Dragon's Maze
I call bullshit

>>49301320
There was a chance for the land slot from DGM to be a shock

>>49301320
Some of the Dragon's Maze packs had shocks in them, just like some of the Fate Reforged packs had fetches from Khans

Do your homework before you come at me with that weak-ass shit again

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>>49301347
>>49301356
Oh neat, didn't know that.

>>49301308
Competitive EDH is a meme. Disregard it.

>>49301407
I know it is but I wanted to look at some discussions and see the mindset of a spike

My johnny mind has been corrupted

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Johnny/Spike Mix master race report in

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>>49296594
Sprung for one of these bitches for my new Hanna deck, it's exactly as silly as I always hoped.

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Favorite creature tutors?

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>Gravity Sphere
>Form of the Dragon
>somehow no one has enchantment removal for like 8 turns

>>49301515
Imperial Recruiter of the Guard
I'm a huge loser.

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>>49301515
It never lets me down in Omnath

>>49288745
But why Nin over Nekusar? Why not stick her in the 99 of Nekky?

Where do you guys test your decks?

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>>49288903
mystic remora > rhystic study
but is that a fucking fish someone stepped on with a boot?

>>49295967
progenitor mimic stuffed in a momir vig deck
>one of us one of us one of us

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>>49301521
> no one has enchantment removal for like 8 turns

>Got THE boardstate out
>Horn of Greed
>Elemental Bond
>Retreat to Kazandu
>Sol Ring
>Khalni Gem
And then the Ezuri-player cast Bane of Progress. Another guy had like 7 copies of Seat of the Synod out too, making it an 21/21.

>>49296934
Liliana of the Dark Realms
Geth
Sheoldred

>>49300968
Tappedout is good for goldfishing

>>49301515
As in a tutor that is on a creatures body, or a tutor for a creature in any sense?

I am partial to the new eldritch evolution. As for tutors with a body I have had some good times with sphinx summoner