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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1074: Identity Death Edition

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>Last Thread
>>49254879
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>>49264221
Speaking of which, how do I pic related?
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>>49262572
Red will there be a cultust chan buyable companion? Pretty pretty please?
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>>49264221
OP, your thread title is intentionally antagonistic. Someone needs to make a new thread.
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>>49264237
>Needing perks to make/operate puppets.
Anon.
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>>49264356
Not the puppet bit, the "being the Grim Reaper" bit.
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>>49264268
> LoT gives you the option to get a hypercompetent cultist-chan.
That's not what I wanted at all!

I want to buy a cultist-chan who is detrimental and useless in every possible way. That's MY Cultist-chan!
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>>49264237
Jump a skellyton jump like Nightmare Before Christmas then jump Muppet's Treasure Island for a muppet form?
You can be a Reaper in The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, or be a shinigami in Death Note.
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>>49264389
Death Note Shinigami
Bleach Shinigami
Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy Reaper origin
Go Overlord as a skeleton, spec for death magic or something.
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>>49264406
She is hyper incompetent in lot though and you cannot buy her you have to go through the worst route for her.
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>>49264237
SMT, or take SBURB as your endjump and go Lord of Doom
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>>49264406
People want a Cultist-Chan who isn't stuck inside the hell that is the LoT jump, AAAH the railroading, it burns! Chaos seems like a good place to get her.
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>>49264354
I was posting one but this was up sooner
>>49264389
>Rider of death from Darksiders
>Death's Ring from Supernatural
>Skellyton form from Nightmare before Chtistmas
>Shinigami from Death Note
>Grim Reaper from Billy and Mandy
>Skullgirls
>Any themed perks
>SMT 1000cp race (the one under Lord of Vermin)
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>>49264389
SMT jump has Fiend race.
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>>49259073
>Otoyomegatari
>Waifu
Anon, they're all Muslims. Do you hate pork and alcohol? Do you already worship Allah? If not, they're terrible choices.
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>>49264798
>muslims
>literally all asians and mongols

You are an idiot.
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>>49264850
>Anon doesn't know anything about Central Asia and that the khanates in that area converted to Islam.
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Jumpers, what setting surprised you the most when you first jumped it?
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>>49264887
>anon is an idiot who has not readthe manga and is moving goalposts.
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>>49254480
Myrmidont, sorry for the late reply.
I want to say the new Bride Stories Jump looks really amazing, and I want so many different perks and Items.
You have 3 cultures and 5 backgrounds, and that is a LOT of stuff.for only 600 CP of drawbacks. But as much as I would like to argue for a higher drawback limit, you made it so you can get every Perk and Item of your culture and origin and still have 100 CP left over for a small something else.

Question about the 100 CP companions. Do they get their freebie items? (horse for a nomad, etc) what about other stuff? Would a villager have a house, or a nomad a bow and arrows (not necessarily CP versions)

And the Extended Family, would they have cultural knowledge and skills you have made into perks (Nomad warriors having horse archery, women knowing embroidery) of not at 'perk' levels?

I like the Grape Vines as a kind of Fisher King perk that makes magical year round grape vines appear on my lands, and thrive without tending.

Does the Farmland/Home.Grand House HAVE to be imported into further jumps, or can we keep them part of the warehouse an an annex?
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AHEM.

DevilSurvivorAnon, come to the thread, young man! It's dinner time!
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>>49264925
Manga takes place in the real Central Asia. I know about Central Asia. You do not.
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>>49265000
>>49264887
You really are stupid then. Glad to know I can hide your idiocy.
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>>49265000
>Mangas are the same as reality.
Really man? I sure am glad I missed it when bleach and naruto blew up the twin towers.
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>>49265050
This manga in particular is meant to take place in the real area. Can you read?
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Just ignore and report, don't let this thread fall into the same fagshit the others did.
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>>49264850
Do you know the difference between religion and ethnicity, anon?
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>>49265000
So you know, then, that while Islam was the most dominant religion in the region at the time, it was not all-pervasive, especially in the small nomadic clans that the story focuses on.
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>>49265150
Maybe not, but it is the dominant religion and the manga does mention God a few times.
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>>49265177
Does it say allah? Does it show any symbols of islam? Do the characters act in a way islamic people would at any point in time? No? Then shut the fuck up.
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>>49264798
Then I'll just make my own sect of islam, with BLTs and jagerbombs!
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>>49265177
Which could be an indicator of them having absorbed Russian notions of Christianity or even that they've retained ancestral Tengrist religious notions.
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>>49265205
>>49265236
>>49265243
>Christianity
>Anywhere near a major force in that region especially in the manga's era.
Personally I'm just really surprised you people refuse to even acknowledge what religion they follow. You deny reality instead of claiming "That doesn't make them bad." or saying "I can fix/import them next jump and change their cultural attitudes.".

Would you react this way if someone pointed it out for Aladdin too?
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>>49265236
>>49265354
Whoops, didn't mean to catch you there anon.
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Just realised how good Patches O'Houlihan in Dodgeball is.

Having (temporary) access to a genius teacher every jump is pretty great if you can stomach your mentor dying every time.

Retconned it in early enough that he taught me an awful lot of what I know (haki, all sorts of chi, lot of magic, lot of science, etc.).

Anyone else take him and get a lot of use out of it?
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>>49265354
Honestly, I'm just here to play devil's advocate. I don't care what religion they follow, I just find your stance of "they must be Muslim because I know history, even through there's no indication of what faith they follow, but they can't possibly be outliers" to be annoying. You're assuming something about a setting and forcing it on everyone else, that's generally considered to be dick behavior, here.
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Post husbandos you picked up
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>>49265354
>>49265423
Maybe they're Zoroastrians.
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>>49265448
But Anonymous,
I am the husbando.
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>>49265423
>I'm just here to play devil's advocate
Got it, you're just being an asshole for its own sake.

>>49265456
Zoroastrianism is long, long dead by this time.
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>>49265354
>Would you react this way if someone pointed it out for Aladdin too?
Well, yeah. Aladdin clearly doesn't take place in an Islamic culture, there are lots of things in it that are banned by Islam. Given that Agrabah is not a real place, but a fantastic pastiche of many Middle-Eastern cultures, I'd imagine that their religion is similarly not Islamic, but something that looks similar.
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What are some easy chainbreaking combos?
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>>49265472
Are you?
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>>49265505
>Aladdin clearly doesn't take place in an Islamic culture
The Sultan outright says Allah.
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>>49265456
Nah, they're obviously Germanic pagans.
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>>49265517
Having more than two functional brain cells.
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To jumpers who are basic their powers or powers they grant of the Zodiac theme:

Did you remember to include the thirteenth sign?
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>>49265399
I took him early on, and he basically taught me everything Jump-chan didn't. Best hundred points I ever spent.
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>>49265520
So? Doesn't mean it's Islam. "Allah" is just a word, it's not a proper name. You wouldn't assume that anyone saying "god" is a Christian.
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>>49265559
You're just the "Devil's Advocate" having another go, eh?
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>>49265354
Isn't Christianity common along the northern border with Russia in that area?
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>>49265543
Worst sign.
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>>49265586
Not really, no.
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>>49265572
Yes, but I'm right. "Allah" is just a word. In the absence of other signs of Islam, I'm going to assume it's just something Disney put in because they were worried they'd offend their predominantly Christian audience if they said "God forbid", instead.
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>>49265543
Who'd one? Cetus, Corvus, Crater, Hydra, Ophiuchus, Orion, Pegasus, Scutum, or Sextans?
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>>49265517
Common Sense (Akame Ga Kill, mastery of all forms of common sense)+Hyper Competent (Venture Brothers, you're not an incompetent goof). You have now achieved a level of mental clarity and competence head and shoulders above the throng of jumpers. Be proud.
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>>49265604
>>49265587

Ophiucus
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>>49265631
But you're also boring. Shenanigans are what makes Jumping fun.
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>>49265543
No, I based my powers on the Chinese zodiac. Though I've been considering making my powers based on the zodiac used in Exalted, now that I've been there and have an excuse.
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>>49265448
GAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>49265603
>Yes
Then see >>49265492

You're making an argument that a movie about a middle eastern story, set in a middle eastern-inspired sultanate, which even outright uses an Arabic word people associate with Islam, and saying "Dude it's not Islam because a kid's movie doesn't have the main characters sit down in a mosque and recite a prayer." ignoring the fact that would've gotten Disney lynched. They made it as clear as they were allowed.
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>>49265697
>Chinese Zodiac
Enjoy your fucking Sheep powers. Holy hell do I hate my sign so much.

Anyway, that's the zodiac in Exalted?
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Haven't been here since July.

What new jumps have we had since then?
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>>49265730
Look, if you google "Aladdin Islam", you'll get page after page of Muslims saying "this does not represent my religion". I'm going to take their word for it. Aladdin isn't Islam. It's some awkward pastiche of it that just looks like it from a distance.
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>>49265660
He asked for chain breaking combos, not shenanigans.
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>>49265448
Well technically Sturmdrang is Keristrasza's 'husbando' and vice-versa. I'm actually glad to have facilitated such a healthy relationship.

>tfw making fake Hearthstone cards for my Companions
>tfw don't actually know if this is OP
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>>49265747
>Sheep

Ha! Try being Rat.
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>>49265448
I was just trying to be a friend, thought he could use one. How did this happened?
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>>49265765
>You'll get page after page of people whining about a movie for not being explicit or not having values their extreme fundamentalism doesn't fit despite the movie not even trying to depict a specific denomination of the modern religion.
Nah man they're totally not being butthurt it's not fundie enough for them. Totally.

I get the vibe most of the replies to me were just you doing so multiple times as you've already admitted just for the sake of acting like a fool and deny reality. All because, what, you don't like that I'm pointing out a cultural issue to someone? This is getting whiny and offended over a "Your waifu is shit because x" post. This is your life.
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>>49265814
At least they're cute and intelligent. Sheep are just worthless and retarded.
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>>49265747
No, Exalted uses a different zodiac, the thoughts were separate. Each caste of Sidereal (and the Maiden of Fate they serve) corresponds to a different Astrological College. Journeys, Serenity, Battles, Secrets and Endings. Each College has five zodiac signs. So Creation's zodiac has 25 signs. Lots of weird stuff there. I'm using it to build my Persona-equivalent, to give me something comparable in complexity to Major Arcana of the Tarot. Downside is that I don't have a "beginner sign" and an "ultimate sign" like the Arcana have with the Fool and the World. Not sure what I'm going to do about that.
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>>49265828
More that I didn't like your tone. You came off as a jackass. And now, by making myself into more of a jackass, I've given you the moral high ground. You should be thanking me, you piece of shit.
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>>49265747
>Enjoy your fucking Sheep powers
Um, sheep powers.
Controllable hair...
Cloud/Fog summoning and solidification
Dream abilities.
Being inconspicuous/blending in (sheep's clothing)
No, those are some good powers.
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>>49265876
No they're not. That only helps if you want to be a sneak and a coward.
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>>49265872
I would have rather been perceived as the biggest jackass around then have had to deal with you.
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>>49265749
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/subject/JumpChain/start/2016-07-01/end/2016-09-09/page/7/
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>>49265912
Careful, there, you're starting to reverse it. I go to all this trouble to make you look good, and you just throw it in my face. What an ungrateful child.
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Android Hunter A jump when?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758895536

If it's not going to be greenlit, I will cry like anime fan on prom night
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>>49265941
So what, it's Mighty Number Nine all over again?
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>>49265872
Don't worry, you are.
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>>49265876
If that's Sheep powers, do Rat powers let me sneeki breeki all over the place? Fit through any space I can get my head through?
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>>49265958
Whoops. wrong link. Meant for >>49265912

Don't I look like a jackass too!
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>>49265961
Also, you can chew through concrete!
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...
Everyone just needs to chill at the bathhouse for a bit.

>>49264955
>companions & freebie items
Yes, they do get their freebie items. They would have possessions like a normal bow if nomad.

>Extended family
Yes, that's what I mean by import - they get local memories, personality, possessions, cultural knowledge, etc.

>The Farmland/Home/Grand Home
Sorry, they aren't warehouse extensions. You can choose not to have them insert into a particular world, if you don't want them to. But it's either insertion in the world or nonexistence.
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>>49265981
Now you're number 1.
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>>49265892
What's your western zodiac sign, then? Something cool?
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>>49265981
>>49265958
>>49265912
>>49265872
>>49265828
...I'm going to be honest: I can't tell what the fuck you guys are even arguing about anymore.

As far as I can tell y'all started off being butthurt about religion and now you're trying to make out over the internet.
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>>49266043
No, it's Gemini. Equally shit.
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>>49266013
that is a fancy house
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>>49266045
>As far as I can tell y'all started off being butthurt about religion and now you're trying to make out over the internet.
Well, I'm trying to, but he won't go for it. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
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>>49266045
I just wanted to inform an anon about how all the girls would make shit waifus, and the other guy admitted that he was just shitposting because he didn't like my tone.
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>>49266057
Better than what I've got. Pisces sucks. I'm two fish.
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>>49266057
Oh its you again.
Man you have like

All of the issues about yourself or something, like geez
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>>49266013
>Sorry, they aren't warehouse extensions. You can choose not to have them insert into a particular world, if you don't want them to. But it's either insertion in the world or nonexistence.
But how can I slowly grow the warehouse into a pocket dimension if you won't let me add property to it?
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>>49266057
Not as shit as Pisces.

Fucking fishes.
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>>49266057
>self-duplication
>not cool
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>>49266013
Everyone needs to chill period.

>>49266045
It started with someone asking about waifus, then some else said they were muslim and thus would suck, then someone else said they were wrong, that they're not muslims, and then then that went on for a bit, and then some guy started talking about tone and shit, and now we're here.
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>>49266081
Well, maybe if you'd just come downstairs and answer your doorbell so we could go to dinner already, I wouldn't be so angry with you, Kevin! Don't think I don't know it's you.
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>>49266071
>>49266081
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>>49266100
>>49266123
Aquarius here. Wot do I get?
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>>49266144
Bargain bin Poseiden, except you have to do it manually with a vase.
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>>49266100
>>49266123
Fish are cooler than "hurr two humans"

>>49266106
Yes.

>>49266125
Having no other powers, it's useless. And it's more about being two-faced than anything.
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>>49266144
A guy holding a jug.
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>>49266144
Fabulous secret powers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTDLOJ5cnI
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>>49266160
Are you also the Tamamo-no-Mae cuk?
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>>49266057
Dude Gemini is the intelligence, skill learning, and multitasking Zodiac sign. Exactly what people tend go go after in perks.
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>>49266159
What about Leo?
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>>49266111
I give you a persian-style bathhouse!
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>>49266195
No.
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>>49266160
You've got at least one shadow clone that doesn't pop.
Even baseline you as you are right now could benefit immensely from this. Watch 2 shows at once. Read a book and work out at the same time. Shitpost in the thread while also being a decent human being. The possibilities are literally doubled.
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>>49266211
MAKENANZE MAKENANZE MAKENANZE

GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNLEEOOOOOON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE11FKr--5k
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>>49265951
It's something that already looks better than Mighty no 9, required no prior funding, is made by one guy and feels like proper Megaman
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>>49266231
Wouldn't that not help unless we shared minds?
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>>49266238
You've got to love the Heat Crusher.
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>>49266211
Be a fucking lion?
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>>49266238
>>49266253
I'm okay with both of these things.
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>>49266239
So it's like if Jack the Reaper was inspired by Megaman instead of Kirby. Alright, that sounds pretty cool, then.
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>>49265913

Thanks.

Why do we have a /co/co/'s Bizarre Adventure jump now?
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>>49266211
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>>49266242
If you don't share minds then you've at least got "my own clone now neither of us will be virgins" to fall back on.
Even besides that have the 2nd dude put work in and be a lazy piece of shit as the 1st. Then dismiss your clone when he gets uppity and try again with a new one.
Properly gaming this kind of thing requires knowledge of exactly how it works, however with a bit of practice I don't see how this can go wrong.
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>>49266013
If you go Groom, the companion option for Bride is free. If you have multiple companions you want to import as Brides, do they all get to come in free since you went Groom?
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>>49266298
Why not?
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>>49266160
>Having no other powers, it's useless.
Oh I can find a use for it.
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>>49266298
Why not?
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>>49266326
If you are Groom, one bride is free. The rest must be purchased.
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>>49266344
>>49266336

Not complaining, just seems odd to me considering we already have a jump where Stands are obtainable. I know CCBA has more than that but Stands are the best part.
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>>49266057
>Gemini
>>49266125
>self-duplication
>not cool

Oh, come on, you are just trying ti make the powers lame, A Gemini power would not be self-duplication, it would be more like;

Duplication, including items.
Like you have a gun, now you have two guns. Shoot that gun, and it is still loaded, because you shot a duplicate.

Ambidexterity and the ability to use both hand at the same time, so double shooting, matched swordsmanship, etc.

You being both of your twins, so both bodies have to die at the same time, or you can just twin yourself from the remaining body, wherever that is.

Synchronization, Mental link with someone else, sharing knowledge and abilities.
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>>49266370
Is it 100 a pop or do you get it at a discount? If it's a 100 per that's a pretty expensive import option.
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>>49266370
>one bride is free. The rest must be purchased.
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>>49266378
I prefer Melody and the Mask. Add in a Quality for extra wacky adventures.
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>>49266219
>I give you a persian-style bathhouse!
Yeah, you did. Sorry, I forgot about that one.
I already had a pool from Sims3 so I sort of skipped that over.
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>>49266459
>sorry, I ignored that juicy dry-aged steak you offered because I found a hamburger somewhere.
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>>49265448
The Madgod Sheogorath.
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>>49266412
As long as its not as thematically Schtzo as how SRWZ decided to handle Gemini
>I'm a tacticool real robot
>I'm a kung fu super robot
>LOL I DUNNO DESU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnz2yhV6MtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4r5fzn32hg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhiqEXBH-X0
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>>49266436
It's 100cp a pop.
This is because you get a fiat "happy marriage" with them, and they get...Two free 100cp perks and 900cp worth of discounted perks, and a free item. I think it's a good deal.

>>49266450
...I set myself up for that, didn't I.
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>>49266326
>If you go Groom, the companion option for Bride is free. If you have multiple companions you want to import as Brides, do they all get to come in free since you went Groom?
>>49266370
>If you are Groom, one bride is free. The rest must be purchased.
>>49266450
>one bride is free. The rest must be purchased.
You could probably import them free as your bride with the free extended family option. That would make them your 'bride', but not a 'Bride' (As in they would get the setting history memories of a bride, but not all the perks of culture and background a 100 CP Bride would get) Just that getting caught sleeping with them wouldn't be adultery

(Offer void of you take that 300 CP marriage difficulties drawback)
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>>49266525
A Slayer Caste Infernal on his way to the Otoyomegatari jump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN-ttCBHyx8
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>>49266607
>Slayer Caste Infernal
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>>49266490
So he made you his waifu? Or a goat? Or a puddle? Or maybe a bad idea? Did you eat your own fingers?
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>>49266666
Nice Quints Mega-Satan
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>>49266681
It went something like this...

>slept with him in oblivion jump, when he was mortal
>told him I was pregnant
>jump ended
>400 years later, in the skyrim jump
>brought a companion who was my daughter with me
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>>49266788
So was he actually the father or...
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>>49266804
It was YJ clonepanion, so...
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>>49266691
But Justice, you're already a Satan
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>>49266788
>seducing the Champion of Cyrodiil
>in the middle of the demon invasion

Terrible timing, all things considered.
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>>49266666
>King of the Dance.
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>>49266841
I had set up a shop where people would bring me things to feed to the Equivalent exchange perk from minecraft. He kept bringing me leftover loot, and after the invasion was over I made a comment about sleeping with him if he ended up braving another drastic realm to bring me stuff.

Then the door popped up, and he gave me dawn/duskfang.
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>>49266832
There's a lot of satan today it seems...
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>>49266451
This.

Combined with Talecrafting, all the Faeblooded perks, Parody from Discworld and being Wordbound to Narrativium and life is like a hurricane, here in duckberg~

I wonder if forging the jawbreakers into an Behemoth/Artifact made from your own Sword/Ring Grace would require Craft: Gossamer or Craft: Fate?

>>49266788
...did you take the annoying fan drawback by any chance?

That would have been terrible.

>>49266868
>Lord of the Dance

ONE

JOB
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So what are some jumps with invisible text in them or just easter eggs in general.
I know there's the one from the last thread and of course the classic murdertale but what else am I missing by not highlighting every blank space in every jump?
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>>49266950
>Lord of the Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsTkqUwrR_Y
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>>49266950
>ONE JOB
MALFEAS IS NO MERE LORD! MALFEAS IS KING!!!
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lads
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>>49266975
Does the murdertale link actually do anything? All it does is take me to a google search page for the url.
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>>49266832
Lies!

>>49266868
>King
>Not Tyrant
0/10

>>49267025
HE IS THE DEVIL TYRANT
TYRANT
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>>49267069
There's a space in the url you have to delete first before the link works. It should take you to another drive if you get it working right.
Not like I'd recommend taking the jump though.
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>>49267085
Also the Demon Emperor. Really, Malfeas has whatever title he damn well says he has. He's a themonuclear rage-beast the size of a small universe, when he tells you to call him something, you call him that.
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>>49267111
Wait, another jump? What?
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>>49267123
Drive*
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>>49267085
>TYRANT
>TYRANT
Fine. THE GREEK KING MALFEAS.
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>>49267123
>>49267141
It's got like 2 things in it. Look for yourself man.
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>>49267123
There's a "secret" alternate version of the Undertale jump called Murdertale. It's based around you getting SAVE/LOAD in exchange for killing everyone in this jump and all future jumps.

I don't think it was ever intended to be used as a serious jump. It's more like an Easter egg, or a bad-end with some extra fluff.
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In Overlord, would the Monk class be able to synergies with normal Weapon-based Damage-focused class skills by speeding them up and increasing precision and such, or does it only synergies with unarmed damaged-focused classes?
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>>49267040
gents
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>>49267266
mates
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>>49267040
>>49267266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00RcsjoRuQ0
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>>49267257
Somewhere in the CYOA itself it mentions that combining Monk with Damage-Focused Warrior would work out to be a really good combo, as an example of combining classes. So yes.
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>>49266868
Did someone say dance?
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>>49267257
If it's based off of D&D then no, the unarmed monk abilities wouldn't work with weapons. The notable exception to this is / are kama. Kama can be used with your unarmed skills.

I didn't make the jump so take that with a grain of salt. The only thing close to weapons we see monks use in the source material are something like cestus gloves.
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>>49267266
>>49267040
>>49267283
cunts
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>>49267308
Pedophile.
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>>49267328
Obvious Australian.

>>49267325
Overlord simply uses some elements of D&D, it breaks several others.
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>>49267190
It wasn't. Some retard tried to push it as one anyway, and got chewed out a bunch.
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>>49267339
>Overlord simply uses some elements of D&D, it breaks several others.
I'll agree with that for the most part. There are plenty of instances where they play traditional D&D rules straight though: Momon's inability to use weapons and armor without the assistance of magic is one good example.

I've got no dog in the fight either way, I was just tossing out an opinion.
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How big is your biggest waifu?
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>>49267257
>>49267257
As far as I remember, I think it only really works with unarmed Damage-focused. Sorry.
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>>49267436
Bigger than a breadbox.
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>>49267436
5 foot
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>>49267436
Bigger than you.
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>>49267436
She's about a thousand or so meters.

>>49267478
For a second there, I thought the spoiler image would be Garnet with Bane's mask.
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>>49267436
Define big.
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>>49267491
Is your waifu paper white skinned?
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>>49267496
Tall. Height
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>>49264798
>religious differences a problem
Not conquering them in the name of the All Father, and waging a brutal holy war in the name of Odin.
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>>49267519
Ah. In that case between six-five and seven foot, depending on how much attention we want to draw.
Not that a dozen 5'10+ girls can exactly blend in.
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>>49265527
>we really need a CK2 jump
my brother from another mother
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>>49267436
The size of the planet earth.

Can you guess why?
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>>49267563
>>49267478
>>49267475
>>49267462

You guys are weak
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>>49267436
How tall is a /co/co/ Pillarman again?

And that's just from her point of view.
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>>49267545
>in the name of Odin
>not BY THE POWER OF RA
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>>49267592
Because she is the planet Earth?
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>>49267638
>BY THE POWER OF RA
>Not BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL
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I realized OneNote had a thing to export so, for your perusal...
It's been retconned a bit but it's more or less what I've got recorded
Wondering how differnet people's builds are made or recorded to mine
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>>49267675
Forgot I had some half-finished fluff in there.

Eh.
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>>49267638
Ra does have a pretty cool boat.
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>>49267590
>Civ-like CK2 jump with an optional drawback for having to make Norse paganism the main religion
Yeeeeees
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>>49267613
Eh, stepping on cities isn't my thing.
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City of Heros
Warehouse time 68.8
Pocket D
Female 25 years old
Brute 950
Croatoa 750
Tuatha de danann
Deers Reign
(Requires Super Strength, EarthMelee, EarthMastery and EarthControl.)
Earth elemental mastery 450
Elemental melee earth 150
Elemental control earth -450
Super strength -750

Items
Credits -800

Drawbacks
ENCsoftropy 0

Reversing entropy is easy with out of jump powers and tech, as is winning a war against some evil or annoying fae. Plus side I get some earth based powers and a deer person body along with the ability to talk to hooved animals.

I am not sure it was worth the furry deviant art tier art and lewds I had to sort through to find a reasonably nice picture.

I just want to be a supervillain.

Had to edit for math
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>>49267675
Rabbit stew.
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>>49267688
It's gotta be a cool boat for the big boys to ride.
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>>49267342
Why would anyone do this? In order to take that perk (which would be the entire point of that version) you'd have to kill everyone in every jump (or at least every jump you have that perk on in). Not only is that super edgy, that sounds like a huge pain to do.
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>>49267854
He was pretty blatantly trying to powergame in the laziest, most stupid way possible. He admitted as much.
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>>49267854
It was a joke. A reference to the Genocide Path in Undertale, which is also something super edgy that's a huge pain to do.
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>>49267854
>Why would anyone do this?

There's a better question here.

Since when were you the one in control?
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>>49267696
Well that's good because until you do stuff she lacks lower body.

Just take her to empty planet and enjoy how big and beautiful your waifu is. Then have her destroy a few uninhabited things
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>>49267809
>warehouse time

?

>>49267896
I think he's asking why someone would try to treat it as a legit jump not why it exists

>>49267675
Digger, there were some typos in Mucha Lucha pointed out last thread-the method wrestler drawback is missing and Family, Honor, Tradition and- seems to be lodged awkwardly in the items section for some reason
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>>49267907
If you're the guy, go away.

If you're not, it's been a few months now. Undertale memes are so last arbitrary game development cycle.
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>>49267854
But the powerlevels anon.
You get stronger when you kill people after the jump so killing everyone is something you'd be doing anyways if you were bothering with genocide in the first place.
Or you know just dragon break too many times with time immunity when you're ready to leave to speedrun your way through things.

The real problem is you get your ass possessed permanently for even trying to take the jump even if you don't take save/load. Oh and you also lose all your companions because you killed them and they're dead.
At least it makes hatred can be fun if you're an edgelord, this one isn't supposed to be taken at all.
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>>49267960
>this one isn't supposed to be taken at all

This.

Brows and Digger never even bothered to acknowledge it existed, that was how few shits it matters.
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>>49267820

Somethin' on your mind, doc?
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>>49267854
There are probably also a couple of jumps that you flat out can't take because there are people you'd have no chance of killing.
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>>49267995
>Not using one of the pictures of Bugs crossdressing to add an element of innuendo to the joke
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>>49267960
I like how Chara just completely no sells any anti-possession perks. Like, it makes sense because you let them in in the first place, but it's also just funny to imagine Jump-Chan getting incredibly salty because despite having a bunch of perks that SHOULD protect them, the Jumper STILL got possessed by the Demon Child.
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>>49268004
>Jump TES
>Have to find a way not only to kill everyone in the dream, but reach out and kill everyone in the true reality without ceasing to exist
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>>49267436
Slightly shorter than me, and I'm not insanely huge.

Enormous, building+ size giantesses are a bad fetish, it's next to impossible to have meaningful interactions with someone after they reach a certain size.
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>>49267935

Ahh, yeah...Sorry, I'll get to work if I can. I kind of took on more than I can chew so between playing housekeeper, girlfriend and college I've been kinda falling behind
If anything I can get y'all some fixes on certain things
-Mucha Lucha rewrite, keep the perks but try to emphasize the lucha spirit a bit...it was a bit of a rush job and I'm not proud of it, anything in terms of typos and missing drawbacks? I do that sometimes where I don't have drawbacks i mention earlier in my doc show up
-Add companion imports to both Mucha Lucha and Cyber Knight
both were, again, rush jobs because I wanted to make a jump and I may have been less careful than I wanted
Apologies
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>>49268050
>Jump Journey to the West
>Have to kill yourself because all things are one or something in buddhism
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>>49268004
I thought Murdertale wasnt canon in the first place.
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>>49268075
M8

M8

It's not, and you can't. Folks are just commenting on the impossibility of it if you could.
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>>49267935
Warehouse time is the amount of time variation between the inside of my warehouse and the time outside my warehouse.

If you buy narnian clock early chain it can really stack up fast. This basically means I can get almost 69 days worth of time inside my warehouse for every day outside of it either faster or slower. I like more time in my warehouse myself.
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>>49268058
Cave diving is a thing friend

Eugh, I feel dirty just typing it.
And not in the good way.
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>>49268075
It would be canon if you put it in your chain, but it's a trap so
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>>49268058
For you
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>>49267951
Ooh, I know! We can talk about No Man's Sky!
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>>49267984
>Brows and Digger never even bothered to acknowledge it existed
But...they wrote it. I mean, I understand what're your getting at but they specifically had to acknowledge it existed to write it.
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>>49268030
That's because by doing things his way, you are inviting him in. What does a home security system do when you happily invite in a known criminal?

Why are you surprised when he points his gun at you after helping him kill your neighbors?
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>>49268072
>Jump TOME
>Everyone keeps respawning because it's just a VR game
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>>49268058
You're supposed to be huge as well when sizes exceed 50 feet. Otherwise as you said meaningful interaction gets difficult.
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>>49268139
SPORE would be better if we're doing something like that.

>Someone does a series of connected jumps for each stage
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>>49268184
There was talk of doing exactly that, a while back. I wonder what happened to that anon.
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>>49268174
What's the point if you're both huge? I thought size/power difference was the main appeal.
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>>49268212
Literal world-shaking orgasms.
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Jesus H Christ. Remind me again why lewd jumps are banned when this degenerate smut talk is for some reason allowed?
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>>49268139
...sure?

I mean. I don't know enough about it to talk about other than it's apparently shit?
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>>49268212
For some maybe.
There's also the size/power difference between the two of you and everyone else.
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>>49268255
Because fuck you.

And fuck you too Captcha, pasta is not French fries.
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>>49268255
It's the difference between this happening every so often and it being the only thing all the time forever.
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>>49268255
We've been over this, newbie.

Lewd jumps are bad because they focus solely on lewd as a narrative premise, denying any focus on any other form of narrative

Raunchy talk in thread is fine because it consists of making lewd out of things which by themselves aren't inherently lewd.

Also on the offchance you aren't the shitposter, if you seriously use "degenerate" here you're on the wrong site.
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>>49268300
>Lewd jumps are bad because they focus solely on lewd as a narrative premise, denying any focus on any other form of narrative
It's funny that you say this when none of the currently banned lewd jumps focus solely on lewd save for CoC and the various generic hentai stuff.
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>>49268255

Because there's a difference between occasionally fulfilling fantasies and trying to write up a satisfactory jump where there's nothing important to do but fuck for a decade
not that it stops me from TRYING but damn if drawbacks, wanderlust and city development don't stop me. Also, while I think the ban's a bit weird sometimes with what counts and what doesn't, I'm fine with accepting it to minimize issues with fine people like yourself.
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>>49268300
No, you fuck off to another general. The no lewd rule was created specifically to weed out disgusting ((((people)))) like you.
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>>49268300
There's a difference between occasional talk about sex and the one guy who screams "I HAVE A GIANTESS FETISH" out of nowhere every three or so threads.
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>>49268428
Maybe take issue with him instead of trying to turn it around and attack the thread on a rule.
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>>49268030
But anon, they did do their job. Nobody's possessing you.

Nobody ever was.
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>>49268353
>the various generic hentai stuff

You mean, all of DDanon's jumps as well as that one SB one? It is pretty funny the lewd jumps are lewd, I suppose.

Look, I'm really not in the mood for this. Can we just pretend you've spent half a thread trying to push lewd jumps onto the main drive, and I've spent half a thread calling you a shitposting SB scumbag and we've all agreed to disagree or at least run out of energy/gotten bored from bickering until thread archived? Assume, for the sake of argument, we've both made several ad hominems and logical fallacies in the defense of our positions.

There. Now you can go back to being a sullen, unacknowledged minority and I can go back to ignoring you.

Everyone wins.
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>>49268420
>((((

Hey shitposter, you're a little premature showing your hand. The folks who get on that spiel don't do that weird bracket thing.

Also what >>49268428 said.
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Speaking of fetishes, my is trying to decide when someone's too far gone to be worth saving.

At what point do you think someone is evil enough that they don't deserve redemption and forgiveness?
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>>49268529
No such thing, I'd even forgive the Jew who made up the holocaust if he was sorry.
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>>49268471
Actually, Mr Grumpy Pants, I was referring to Queen's Blade and Katawa Shoujo. Both of which, by the exact metric you just posted, don't count as lewd. But I've grown used to you being a hypocrite and contrarian about this. In addition to being a gigantic asshole to anyone not completely on your side.

I don't expect you to be nice but really, at least don't lie when people can see you post just a few inches above this explaining the rules that you consider things lewd under, which wouldn't include these two jumps. It's just a little sad.
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>>49267325
Actually there's a feat you can take in 3.5 to make a weapon usable with your monk skills.
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>>49268529
When "They were all bad" tells me so.
Thank you true lies. Now I never need to feel bad about killing someone again.
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>>49268529
When their cause isn't justifiable at all or when they committed purposeless evil I don't want to forgive them for.
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>>49268529
Nobody ever deserves forgiveness or redemption. They may receive it anyway, but only if they're willing and able to make amends and face the consequences of their crimes.
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>>49268603
There's an unwritten part of the rule he forgot to include, which is as follows: "Fuck DDanon."
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>>49268603
Oh, those. I keep forgetting those exist. Also I'm almost positive I'm not whoever you think I am, but I know the style of arguing you're talking about.

If I come off as disgruntled, rude and blatently incorrect, it's because I'm tired beyond words from seeing people thinking they can get jumps like that accepted onto the main drive. I don't even care about the logical soundness therein anymore, I'm just tired of watching a futile effort waste posts.

Someone told me KS does qualify by the fact if you took away the premise of sexing up cripples there would be no plot but I can't say I know well enough to call it either way. I was pretty danged sure Queen's Blade was a hentai though.
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>>49268656
It's more like "Queen's Blade doesn't actually have appreciable substance, it's constant sex and/or innuendo towards such and the setting is mainly there as an excuse to get the girls into these situations and thus it lacks even the appreciable substance something like Fate has."

Also don't actually bother arguing with the lewdfag, even if he's not technically shitposting (and I think he is), then his massive autism won't let him back down so this is a pointless exercise.
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>>49268656
Wish we could have had "Fuck Mib" instead. At least DDanon, while an asshole, made jumps that had SOME effort and flavour in them.
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>>49268529
That's not my place to tell. My place to make the call I think does the most good, or failing that the least harm, or failing that the most personal benefit to me.

I am not the one who judges their souls. I am the one who judges the situation we find ourselves in.
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>>49268624
>It's a "someone figures out how to make jumper's power give false positives and then they kill everyone" episode
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>>49268715
If you're not the guy just posts above saying "Lewd jumps are bad because they focus solely on lewd as a narrative premise, denying any focus on any other form of narrative", the one who I directly responded to and you responded to my posts, then yeah, you're not the guy I'm talking about.

If you're tired, just don't respond instead of acting like a massive cunt

Queen's blade is no more a hentai then Sekirei is and that's perfectly accepted. Whoever told you KS premise was just fucking cripples was an idiot and you should be ashamed for trying to include something you heard from some guy in an argument instead of doing even the slightest research otherwise needed to prove that wrong.

>>49268716
See Sekirei for why you're full of shit. And watch the show for why you're full of shit again. It might not be much but it certainly qualifies based on what other jumps we've allowed. Don't pretend it's banned for anything more then DDanon being disliked.
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>>49268656
That was because I thought Fuck DDanon was an official rule by now.

>>49268719
I'm going to refrain from commenting on the Mib situation itself, but I object to the last part. I would hoenstly prefer Mib's lack of effort to the bizarre, convoluted hoops DDanon jumped through to simultaneously justify locking off random things in his setting, refuse to explain said things beyond "go watch the anime faggot", justify railroading you through a win condition because muh plot (SotC) and come up with an arbitrary pricing system.

Say what you like about Mib, but his work's not hard to understand and open-ended at least.
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>70)Avatar the Last Airbender
>Civilian
>Earth Kingdom

>Tradesman(Music)
>Peacekeeper
>Chi Mastery
>Bending Arts
>Utilitarian Bender
>Spiritualist
>Idea and Complaining Guy

>Master's Scroll(Earth, Water)

>Marked
>In Exile
>Into the Inferno

Seems I've been exiled to the Fire Nation, and apparently there's some sort of prophecy saying I'll bring doom to the Fire Lord. To be fair, given what's about to happen over the next several hours, they were at least right. I'll grab raw fire ambient magic from one of the trolls for fire immunity and go to town. Once Ozai is properly disposed and imprisoned, I can begin negations to stop this kind of thing from happening again by merging the remaining peoples into the Three Elemental Alliance. I'll also have to thaw Aang out of that glacier. He'll make an excellent figurehead for the cause.
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>>49268776
What are you even trying to achieve here?

Do you honestly think people are going to agree to do a thing they've been against for hundreds of threads because of your personal whim?

Are you just trying to make a statemont about how /jc/ can't into logic? Because you're several threads too late for that.
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>>49268624
>>49268767
This is the backstory for one of the Dark Lords in Ravenloft. They twisted her detect evil spell to always ping and she just blindly slaughtered everyone without thinking.
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>>49268798
Mostly I want people to at least be honest with their reasons for banning something i.e hypocritical assholes. I don't really care for the jumps one way or another, I just find people like you awful for these threads.
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>>49268777
>justify railroading you through a win condition because muh plot (SotC)
I agree with you on a lot of points, but I don't think that one was too bad. I mean, killing the Colossi was pretty much the point of the game, so I don't mind them getting a lot of focus

The Wander drawback totally should have given CP, however, since now you have to compete with him. I would have been fine with it being 0 CP if it didn't matter which of you killed them.
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>>49268800
Not those anons, but that's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard of.
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>>49268857
That's what you get for trusting detect evil in an evil dimension. Of course it's going to ping on everyone, you are literally surrounded by evil.
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>>49268857
Ravenloft is pretty fucking stupid, yeah. It's literally "everything is terrible and evil always wins" the setting.
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>>49268857
Well a lot of paladin players rely too much on their "Detect Evil" spell to do all the thinking for them. That's a legitimate problem. So because this was even a problem back when the Ravenloft setting was written, they decided to mock and lamppost that problem by making it happen to a canon character.
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>>49268910
If the Gods themselves gave you a power to let you know, objectively, without having to rely on your flawed, biased, and unreliable mortal intuitions, whether someone was good or evil, why would you NOT rely on it?
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>>49268800
>>49268857
It's actually worse. It changed it to "feelings regarding her." So the more someone hated or feared her the more evil they'd detect, but also the more someone loved or admired her.
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>>49268857
Anon is misremembering. They actually allowed her detect evil power to function right even in Ravenloft, when it normally doesn't. She would go to villages and burn them to the ground if she detected more evil than good.

It was only after the dark powers judged her evil enough to be a darklord that they twisted her detect evil power. Now it just detects strong emotion targeted at her, positive or negative, though she doesn't realize this.
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>>49268958
Ah, yes, so classic Lawful Stupid?
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>>49268529
I don't know
But I know where you're coming from
Bad is hot. Bad girls, bad boys
But personally I don't like hurting good people and watching them suffer
So I think I want to fix them, redirect their violence against the unrepentant
It's not exactly like the life of a companion of a good and just jumper couldn't be counted as community service.

So there you go, you've attempted to show them the error of their ways and they don't repent. In the name of Justice and Liberty they must die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzC0qt2yHHk
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>>49268715
I don't really want to be part of this argument, but I just thought that your plot point - er, your point about plot - is somewhat invalidated by all the 'generic' jumps we have.

Where's the plot in them?
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>>49269002
On her homeworld, she'd already lead a genocide against all evil races, followed by a genocide on everyone who wasn't good. She was already a fallen paladin long before she got to Ravenloft.
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>>49268896
Evil doesn't always win. That's just what the Powers like to make people think. Don't try, just give up. Jump off that slippery slope, go over to the dark side, and actually make a difference. It's always a lie. Evil can be beaten, as long as you're willing to do whatever it takes... And I mean whatever it actually takes, like investigating the situation and determining what the real story is, and ensuring you're actually making things better instead of worse.
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>>49268896
>>49269045
I think it's important to note that if anything, being evil in Ravenloft sucks. You're always getting dicked around by the Powers, you're never really happy or satisfied, and if you are, then it's just to set you up for a bigger fall. It's perfectly possible for good to win, in fact if anything good is already winning, sort of, in that evil is doomed to fail because the Dark Powers think it's hilarious.
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I want to try my hand at being an eldritch horror from beyond the universe, poking part of myself into reality from somewhere else. I have the eldritch horror part down pat, and as a jumper I am by definition from beyond the universe, but I don't know of any way to poke parts of myself from one dimension into another without using portals, which would get pretty clunky trying to walk around with, especially since I'm not sure if the portals I know of can actually move.

Does anyone else know a way I could sort of 'slide' part of myself, or a machine or something, from one universe into another, then have it walk around without needing to carry a portal with it everywhere?
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>>49269135
You want to be the Orz?
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>>49269135
Maybe a custom devil-tiger charmer dedicated to that once the infernals jump comes out?
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>>49268300
>Lewd jumps are bad because they focus solely on lewd as a narrative premise, denying any focus on any other form of narrative


Thats bullshit, since we have had banned jumps that do have narratives outside of the lewd. Like monster musume. Not too mention the whole debacle with gantz.

Look if you don't want to have this debate for the 1000th time? Sure. But don't lie about it.
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>>49269217
>charmer
God dawn it autocorrect. I meant charmset.
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>>49269163
If google has pointed me at the right thing, yes. An extra-dimensional being poking 'fingers' into another reality.

>>49269217
I know next to nothing of Exalted. What would that sort of thing entail?
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>>49268715
>premise of sexing up cripples there would be no plot
No there an option in game to turn off hentai scene which is how I play it.
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>>49269231
>>49269254
When your bait doesn't work the first time, find new material instead of continuously trying to force it.
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>>49269267
Fuck off, pointing out how inconsistent this thread can be in is only bait if you're one of those same wishy-washy assholes. And frankly, if you think something is bait, just don't respond to it and talk about something more interesting.
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>>49269253
Each of the Inferals' charm (supernatural power) trees are based on one of the eldritch monsters that created the universe. Infernals can eventually learn to create an entirely new tree based around the themes they would have as a primordial titan beast. So you can design your custom charms around being a giant being that's only poking small parts of itself into the real world.
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>>49269267
You mean like trying to force the whole samefagging myth when people talk about shit you don't like?
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>>49262250
Can someone explain to me why pocket sand is apparently amazing? Both as itself and as something from the bleach jump?
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>>49269404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLpUq__iQqw
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>>49269404
It's just a King of the Hill meme people like.
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>>49268942
Because the 'Gods' determine who is good and Evil based on their politics, not yours?

And your god is NOT omnipotent. There are other gods (and magics of similar power) in the setting that have shown the ability to mess with divinely granted abilities in the past?
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>>49269377
That'll be good once the jump comes out then.

Does anyone else know of something that could help in the mean time?
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>>49269253
The devil tiger charms are basically you deciding that being the minion of the insane crippled primordials sucks and that you'd rather be one yourself, you then cut off your ties to them, absorb or kill the demon they put inside your head to try to control you, and ascend to primordialhood. As a result of this you get your own extradimensional world-body you get to design (and design the physics within it too) that starts out small but can be expanded infinitely with enough time and effort, the ability to create subsouls out of aspects of yourself (who then make their own weaker subsouls, who then create their own much weaker "demons" to populate your world-body), and finally you get to decide a bunch of themes for yourself and powers based on those themes (Malfeas, for example, has themes of pain, rage, brass, green, being a tyrant, and dancing. As a result, he can do things like punch people with radioactive green hatefire, turn his skin to brass for armor purposes, force people into terrified servitude, and really really good dancing. I mean God damn, that's some impressive-ass dancing he can do). You should be able to make your own "extradimensional entity that interacts with reality by extruding parts of itself into reality" powers just fine, especially since you already should have an extradimensional world-body and aspects of yourself made into discrete entities by then.
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How dumb would it be for a mid-to-late Jumper to buy almost all of the martial arts in Histories Strongest Disciple Kenichi?
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>>49269791
There are better decisions to be making, but dumb isn't the word I'd call it.
Sub-obtimal maybe since plenty of them can be learned on your own.
Also spreading yourself that thin without perfect memory and no-skill degradation will definitly cut into your gains.
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>You know considering the Medabots/Medarot jump was made with the GB/A and Anime in mind i should check out the newer ds and 3ds games to see if there's any frames that would be cool looking to get

>300+ Medabots
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>>49269849
It's just like pokemon.
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>>49269974
Pokemon are easier to remember though, and i was exposed more to those than Medabots.

Like how many people know how many rhino beetle type medabots there are, or how many of them are litearlly just variants of medabee
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so, question.

in a theoretical custom robo jump, what would the origins be?
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>>49270127
Tournament Fighter, Police Officer, Mercenary/whatever the protags were, and Horrible World Destroying Evil in Six Inch Robot Form.
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>>49270127
Drop in
Dude who competes with robots
Dude who builds robots
Robit

It's basic and lame but that's what I can think of right now.
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>>49270127
>>49270182
Oh, you could also do a Criminal origin that gives you discounts on illegal parts.
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>>49270127
>>49270182
>>49270225
Oh, or also a Shop Owner or Robo Researcher origin for the mercantile or science focused people.

These are all roles that show up in the series' two games that came over to the US. I have NO idea what was in the N64 game if you want to include that one.
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>>49270182
My memory of CR is s fuzzy, but in arena you were a tournament fighter, iirc.

>>49270225
That probably falls under six inch high robot. But good idea.

The second half of that, however, implies that I would list every single part. No way.
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>>49270313
Could always give examples.

Anyway, have you played the two N64 games? if not, you should see what info you can glean about them online. Might give more ideas.
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>>49269828
I do have perfect memory and no-skill degradation, but knowing that I can learn most of them without CP helps with my build a lot. Thanks!
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...wait a minute. All this talk about robots is reminding me. Wasn't someone working on a jump involving tiny alien robots or something? Like, uh, the villains were these mass produced bots, and they blew up the good alien's world, and then the good ones came and bonded with humans...shit, what was it called? It was almost complete too.
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>>49270480
Same as most any kind of martial art. If you can find a teacher there really isn't much of a reason you can't learn it.
Especially considering how even if they do use ki you get ki just by going to the jump.
Now finding someone to teach you in the styles you like is going to be tough so keep that in mind.
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>>49270361
I've played the one for GameCube, and the one for DS. I don't own the DS one anymore, but I'm fairly certain I still have the GameCube one.
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>>49270547
Total Annihilation?
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>>49270547
Oh yeah, someone was. They mentioned it a long time ago though. Give me a minute and I'll give you a name.

>>49270659
Same here. Just saying, the N64 ones could have more material.

>>49270715
Nah, anon is looking for a Japanese game.
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We have any good perks/magic/whatever for mirror travel/shenanigans?
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>>49270848
Alice through the looking glass has what you're looking for.
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>>49270547
It is Gotcha Force.
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>>49270888
That's it! What ever happened to that?
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>>49270906
Guy probably just got bored.
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>all these perks that give you theme songs
>want to actually compose an original theme song, but no clue where to start

Dangit.
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>>49270981
Download a sound editor and slap our dick on it for a week. See what you get.
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>>49265961
>If that's Sheep powers, do Rat powers let me sneeki breeki all over the place?

Rat powers would include stealth.
Also infection. Diseases, but also anything transmittable, so you could make infectious cures.

Dominion over other plagues.

Precognition of calamity, including danger sense.

Multiple controllable rat tails

Martial Arts.
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>>49270361
Actually, there appear to be five games, and the first three were Japan only.
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>>49270361
Another thought, should this be all the games, or just one of them?
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>>49271235
I'd rather it just be one of them, so I don't have to learn japanese or hope all the japan-only ones have fanpatches to be able to do the jump.
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>>49271260
In that case, id just use the two english ones, but take content from all five.

Er, id give you the option to be in one of those two games world, but id take content from all five.
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>>49271260
>>49271294
The jumpmaker could give you enough information that you don't have to.
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>>49271322
That runs into the same problem, me actually finding the information.

Just a quick check by wikipedia, there is no information of the plot of the first three.
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>>49271359
It'd be understandable if you couldn't find the info after giving it the old college try.
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origins

drop in
-upgrades to criminal

tournament fighter
-upgrades to police

shopkeep?
-upgrades to scientist


basic perk distribution is 1/2/4/6, followed by 2/4/6 for the upgrade.
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>>49271543
I dunno about that background scheme or how it'd work.
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>>49271543
Maybe also something for being the robot yourself?
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>>49271559
Similar to the equilibrium jump. The upgraded origin probably costs 100 cp, but gets both sets of freebies.

>>49271569
Drawback? Or maybe scientist capstone to make a full sized one.
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>>49271600
I think people would prefer it be based on the death robot that can straight up murder people and wreck shit on its own from the game.
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>>49271615
I realize that CR isnt exactly a high powered setting, but I think that qualifies as OP.
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>>49271657
Well I did say based on, not exactly making you it.

That said, you could always make it a 3-400 point background to justify it being higher powered.
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Was there an update or something with Perfect Communication Skills? It sounds like it's based on Jack and the Broadcast Shard, but I can't find it under Master, Thinker, Stranger, or Trump.
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>>49271683
God knows what the perks would be.

Erm, how about I scrap shopkeep, and make scientist the base to criminal, and robo the upgrade to drop in?
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>>49271727
I don't really see how scientist has to relate to criminal, though.
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>>49271773
Like, half the scientists in arena turn out to be evil. specifically, the bosses of the evil organization.
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>>49271788
Man I don't even remember the plot of Arena at all for some reason.
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>>49271719
Are you talking about the perk? I think it's based partly on Jack, and partly on the meme of Yamada being a cape tier therapist.
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>>49271800
Me neither, and I think I played that game like twice.
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>>49271800
>>49271840
>crazy dream
>japan loves clubs
>club rivalry
>tournament
>school rivalry
>supermove sidequest
>school tournament
>stuff about criminals I forget
>worldwide tournament
>IM ON A BOAT!
>secret island base
>security system gets hacked
>half of neobrains scientists are evil
>and one of our schoolteachers, IIRC
>break into neobrain
>you versus five fully illegal robos
>sixth robo eats our boss
>beat sixth robo
>sixth robo eats criminals boss
>BY OUR POWERS COMBINED!
>final battle with permanent supermode
>fin
>and then custom robo was pokemon
>gotta catch em all
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>>49271858
Sounds schizophrenic.
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>>49271894
How about this

>tournament arc
>another tournament arc
>yet another tournament arc
>tournament arc interrupted by villains
>not exactly a tournament arc, but close enough.
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>>49271719
Drop-in capstone, based off of Jack-tier social fu and memetic Dr. Yamada.

The joke is that Drop-in's perks are based around being outside context and having the traits the setting desperately needs more people to have. Being well adjusted and having good communication skills.
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>>49271929
That makes entirely too much sense. Well played.
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>>49271917
By god
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Besides SAO, are there any jumps that let you make objects indestructible?
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>>49271955
Battle revolution was better, in that sense. It had an actual plot, not just multiple tournament arcs strung together.

Also, have the criminal perk line.

Criminal
200 - Mental Fortitude
Criminal’s have a nasty habit of using illegal parts on their Robo’s. Some use lots, and some use just one. The primary reason behind this is their mental fortitude, or exactly how far past the safety standards they can push themselves before they do more damage to themselves than to their opponent. You are guaranteed to be able to handle at least one illegal part, and more as you push yourself, and train to withstand the potential damage.

400 - Secretly Evil
Maybe the usage of illegal parts is damaging - no, they definitely are - but nine times out of ten you can just spot an ‘evil’ person by the way they act. Cold, aloof, possibly condescending, and maybe with a slight aura of darkness about them. Thankfully, you are pretty damn good at suppressing and exaggerating parts of your personality. You could probably get away with only repressing all but one or two of those traits, or you could turn around from your evil people meeting and give candy to babies with a smile on your face.

600 - Eternal Ambition
When fighting with a Robo, you do the controlling via some unholy combination of Ki and technopathy. Hence the physical damage from illegal parts. However, for a lack of a better word, your ‘Mental Energy’ is contagious. If you use the same Robo for long enough, your Mental Energy will seep into it, granting it a small semblance of autonomy, and obedience to you. The more energy that seeps into it, the more autonomous it becomes. And while there isnt anything in this jump other than Custom Robo to infect, it isnt limited to just them.
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>>49271966
Sburb and Samurai Jack.
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>>49271985
So I can will remote controlled objects into having individuality?
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>>49271946
>That makes entirely too much sense. Well played.
It's exactly what you need to unfuck the setting, all under one convenient heading!
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>>49272215
All I need to unfuck the setting is a room with a moose, and a phone call to Alexandria. 'Hey, I can fix your Scion problem if you promise to work to make the worlds less shitty places.'

Or any of the other myriad methods of dealing with the golden git.
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Howdy all!
>Glances at thread.
So, has anything gotten done while I was gone? I can't tell.
On a side note, has anyone claimed any of the Zelda games? They are open now, right?
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>>49272309
Yes, they are. Except for that one weird one that apparently wasn't covered at all by the current one. That one was claimed.
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>>49272309
Someone claimed LttP I think.
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>>49272309
I think they're all open right now. There was that one guy who "claimed" link to the past, but I don't think anyone took that seriously.
I was thinking of picking up one myself, but I've got too much I'm working on at the moment.
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>>49272309
They're open. What games are you thinking of, Gaunlet? Majora? Ocarina? Hyrule Warriors?
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>>49271966
Generic Zombie Apocalypse has Impervious Craftsmanship.
Makes anything you make basically indestructible, or at least ridiculously durable, regardless of what it's made of. Doesn't work on things with working parts, though.

In the Inheritance setting, Rhunon is so good with magic and smithing that she can make weapons that are allegedly indestructible.
I don't think there's ever been a case of one of her weapons actually getting destroyed, or even damaged. It's probably not absolute.

And I'm pretty sure there's a perk somewhere that lets you take 'aspects' from one object and place them in another. Like you could transplant the invulnerability of an Adamantium spoon and put it in a teacup, or something. I'd tell you what it was definitively, but the Drive is fucking up on me and demands I sign in, which I refuse to do. Fuck Google.
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>>49272309
>>49272320
>>49272335
Ah, there it its. It was Hyrule Warriors that was claimed.
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>>49272151
I really wouldnt call it 'individuality', but yes. you an also hijack AI into liking you more.
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>>49272337
You're thinking of Exceed Alchemy for transfering aspects.
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>>49272348
I don't recall anyone claiming HW, only LttP.
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>>49272320
>That weird one that wasn't covered...
Hyrule Warriors?

>>49272324
Cool.

>>49272328
Huh.

>>49272335
I was thinking about taking up the Mask really.

>>49272348
Ah, cool.

>>49272365
Oh.
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>>49272365
>>49272372
Lttp was a troll who did it before claiming was even open.
He was just riling up the thread. I doubt there's actually anyone working on it.
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>>49272372
>I was thinking about taking up the Mask really.
Nobody will care who you are until you do.
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>>49272383
Ah.

>>49272388
If I do make the Jump Imma milk that joke so much.
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>>49272365
>>49272372
No, I believe it was Temerai who claimed HW, the guy who did the Generic Videogame Designer jump.
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>>49272479
I can't find any claims in the archives. Care to share with the class?
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>>49272279
... okay, I have to ask. Why a room with a moose?
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>>49272514
This must be what I remember, though I can't tell if it's a serious claim. It seems like it is, but given the context...

And I think it's disingenuous to just assume it's an impostor.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49119363/#49126592
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>>49272567
Invader Zim.

>You may banish foes to an alternate dimension that consists of a featureless white room and an ordinary moose. Only one person can be contained at a time.
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>>49272583
Nah, just means I was looking for wrong things. Username Temerai and Hyrule Warriors in the general search.
So, does he always go by Dick or is that just a thing he does?
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>>49272594
How would that deal with Scion? At best, you might contain his Avatar...
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>>49272597
Yes, he always goes by Dick. Off the top of my head he and head made Rust, Hatred, and probably a few others.
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>>49272594
I see two problems with that. The first is that Scion is naturally able to shift dimensions, so there's no guarantee he won't simply escape when he gets bored, and the second is that even if he can't escape, based on canon your power will be dedicated to keeping him trapped for up to 3600 years (or more) depending on what else happens (as WoG is that he'd live about that long if he didn't go into hibernation nor burn up his lifespan with excessive power use).
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>>49272609
Ah cool then.
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So are blue scarabs, and other scarabs magic or tech? In DC that is. Like I was reading the blue beetle rebirth comic and Doctor Fate straight up states that it's magic (Pic for reference). Is it just that this writer decided it was magic while other decided it was extreme biotech or something else?
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>>49272766
Welcome to the crappiest of comic tactics: retroactive continuity alteration, better known as retcons. Where something has been the case, until suddenly for no reason it is not.
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>>49272657
The room with a moose is probably outside of his capabilities to escape. Being as it is fiat enforced and is not an alternate timeline like the other earths. Also you'd only have to hold him there till the end of a jump then release him and come back post spark.

>>49272600
The perk would most likely move his main body, it says "banish foes" not banish foes avatar.
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>>49272775
Ah so it is just this one Author. I thought I'd been misinterpreting it or something in the Titans and justice league comics.
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>>49272941
The problem with comics is that one author can ruin several others' canon.
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>>49267308

Considering my poor knowledge of the games, I have to ask - is there any method or way to pull her into a Jumper's chain?
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Would it be safe to assume that Order/Chaos magic can be safely excised from any mid- to late-chain jumper's build? The entire of the Mystic tree provides considerable bonuses to any of your magic, regardless of strength. Order/Chaos magic on the other hand, can only get as strong as a (somewhat) unimpressive Zatanna, regardless of training. I considered purchasing it primarily because its strongest user had an impressive feat of blocking a powerful beam weapon, but apparently you can't train to his level -- ever. You would need seemingly every magic boosting perk in the chain to get to his level.

It seems pretty much useless, considering that with that many perks, you probably already have access to better magic systems and they're almost guaranteed to be at least as good as YJ Fate's if not massively better. And the thing is, the perks wouldn't even enhance any Order magic because they're required to even reach such heights -- and as mentioned, any other ward would far outstrip it by that point.

I mean, it's a decent upgrade early on; but unlike nearly everything else in that jump, it doesn't scale.
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>>49273095
Yeah, pretty much. It doesn't really make sense, considering that the only determining factor for its strength seems to be the host's level of mystical power and knowledge. Yet for some reason, you're absolutely capped at the level of a novice mage. It's especially silly considering that you can spend centuries training your Order magic and never progress a mote beyond Zatanna, yet you can likely accomplish effects several times greater than even Zatara with significantly less time and effort.
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>>49273183
...with Genius Intellect.
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>>49273061
Not that anon, but I think that's why I feel that the shows/movies are better than the comics.
Not quite so many cooks in the kitchen. Makes everything way more palatable.
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>>49273307
Honestly I daresay some of the comics are better than the shitty movies being released nowadays. I mean the shows like the original Teen Titans still trumps the other two, but the movies are just utter shit recently. I think the Justice League movie is gonna bomb.
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Can I import a companion for the 'Love Can Bloom' Drawback?
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>>49273391
Which Justice League movie? Because there's an animated DC movie franchise too.
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>>49273095
>>49273183
>>49273193
Could you have made it any more obvious that you're replying to yourself? This argument's already been had. Learn the meaning of "no", shit-poster.
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>>49273396
Yes but they would die and be lost forever with no respawns.
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>>49273407
The new one coming out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIHH5-HVS9o
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>>49272766
It's possible Fate was either lying, or wrong - maybe he was mislead. Or maybe it's xenotech that can influence magic, or maybe that particular one was enchanted by Isis or someone else.

Or maybe comic-book writers are full of shit.

Most of the time it's tech.

If you get the one from Young Justice it certainly seems to be tech, but can be affected by magic, and notably is when Zatanna uses a ritual to evoke Isis through a stone scarab focus to put it back 'off mode'.
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>>49273460
I suppose it falls into that so advanced it may as well be magic category. After all the Reach fought the guardians into a stalemate.
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>>49273510
>After all the Reach fought the guardians into a stalemate.
wat.
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>>49273422
I'm not planning on taking the upgrades, just the base. Still respawns and all, just requires a pursuit of romance, which I think will be fun for the both of us.
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>>49273519
The Reach is the race that created the scarabs through the genetic engineering of a hive mind species. The Khaji Da (the beetles name before modification). They fought the guardians of the Universe into a stalemate when they encountered them. It's kinda explained in the history section of http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Khaji_Da_(New_Earth)

They've also completely destroyed the blue lantern corps. Well saint walker survived but you can't have a corps of one.
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>>49273460
>spoiler

Whenever in doubt, that's always the case.
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>>49273510
>>49273519
To be fair the guardians are pretty incompetent. They've been around for billions of years working on their goal of protecting the universe and the best they've managed to come up with is one green lantern per 1/36th of the universe with a lifespan on the job measured in years. Plus the whole sector 366 thing.
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>>49273554
Did saint walker become a blue lantern again after the whole "Then there is no hope" thing?
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>>49273572
It is still rather impressive considering some of the feats of the lantern rings. They also made the scarabs after the treaty so it kinda shows how advanced they are. Also the guardians themselves are not really to be messed with.

>"Kyle Rayner is recorded saying that Ganthet could crack a planet in half with a thought and have been shown able to stagger Superman-Prime and the Anti-Monitor."

>>49273580
If memory serves he does. I remember one of the comics where it happened on new genesis while the city began to fall towards old genesis. It did take a lot for him to regain his hope though.
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>>49273597
And yet they are too stupid to let their cops use lethal force against anything less than a spaceship.
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>>49273643
That's probably more to do with the fact they feel no emotions so to them it's logical. They may not have very sound strategies but they aren't stupid by any means. Also as I remember it there is another group of guardians that left and kept their emotions. They do far, far better than the logical vulcan like guardians.
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>>49273643
To be fair them allowing legal force would be like america having a global police force that they allow to use legal force. Everyone else would pretty much declare war on them if that was the case.
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>>49273666
Kind of? There's the Zamarons who do the star sapphire corps (crazy yanderes), The controllers (larfreeze) and the blue lanterns corps which Gantlet and Sayd made. So one out of three turned out well. Unless I'm missing one?
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>>49273643
I get the impression that in comics there's a very fine line between the slippery slope betwixt "legalising lethal force" and "the state being taken over by an elite killsquad loyal only to our glorious lord and master Doom"
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>>49273691
I believe it was the group that helped kyle once he became the white lantern. I'm struggling to find the panel that shows them.

>>49273723
I mean they did make the manhunters. So that line probably doesn't exist to them.
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>>49273723
Comics mainly operate on a Kantian morality where it's judged purely on the action. So killing the joker to stop future crimes is as morally bad as the joker killing someone for fun. The few heroes that do kill people are like the punisher and completely crazy. Are there any superheroes who use lethal force but don't go off the deep end and kill people who litter?
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>>49273750
...Ghost Rider?
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>>49273750
Godammit, I want to go back in time and kick Kant's stupid face in.

Also, off the top of my head-anyone not named Batman, any time some writer decides some poor schmuck's crossed a line and needs to be made an example of.
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>>49273750
Wonder Woman, actually.
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>>49273781
Doesn't she mainly fight evil sorceresses and greek gods? I can see why she gets a free pass with the killing.
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>>49268103
Thats the best kind of dirty

But honestly giant waifus are not just for lewds
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>>49273781
Has been shown to go off the deep end multiple times. Hell the injustice story line shows what I think she'd actually be like after being raised on themyscira.

>>49273691
Found a pic of them.
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>>49273803
Agreed. Giant waifus are for cuddles
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>>49273750
I haven't read the comics, but I'm pretty sure it would be hard for this guy to use non-lethal force.
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>>49273847
Think of all the billions of people and animals she is killing here as well as how she is destroying the atmosphere, rotation of the planet, and likely every other biosphere on earth. She is truly a monster.
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>>49273854
Did you not see the movie? He only stuns people with rubber bullets, shoots them in the hands or legs, and only uses lethal force on nonsapient robots!
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>>49273854
He's dead bro. He died so when Tony took a break he wouldn't be replaced by his best friend who has been working with him for years and whom he trusts, but instead by a super genius 14 year old black girl who is somehow smarter than him and came out of nowhere.
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>>49273857
That's why you find an empty planet to enjoy the giant cuddles. It's like you don't know how to solve problems
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>>49273857
Also she painted the moon with her blood so. There's that.
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>>49273875
...so it's a good thing I don't read the comics.
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>>49273883
That's because some dickhole cut her head off
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>>49273883
The moon is dead. Nothing you do matters to it as long as you're not changing its position, rotation,or weight by a massive degree.
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>>49273891
Simon and his people literally dragged a moon on giant chains with mecha-ship and didn't do many calculations to make sure it is in right place.

However when you accidentally poke the moon, suddenly you're the bad guy
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>>49273907
Just pray that its brothers doesn't poke you back.
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>>49273918
...time to run.

Wheres heavens when you need him
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>>49273918
>>49273928
The first thing that I though when I continued reading this was as follows.

>Sir, the moon is gonna kill us all!
>Activate the Heavens-Anon defense!
>But sir if he's aiming at it he'll miss.
>Then tell him to shoot the sky around it!
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>>49273945
See, when you point Heavens at the Earth the shot will curve towards the moon
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>>49273928
>>Mask of El tiburón de la tierra
>>roughly kryptonian Levels of strong

I'm Going to wrestle it!
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>>49273962
sorry that was supposed to be for>>49273918
not>>49273928
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>>49273857
That's why you make the civilization on your waifu or in her if her body is hollow.

If it's on, incorporate it into clothing and stuff, Shadow of the Colossus style
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>>49274047
What, is your waifu a Primordial now too?
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>>49274058
A what?

Explain. I am curious now
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>>49274066
The Primordials from Exalted, think weird conceptual Titans. A lot of them have world bodies, meaning you can live in and on them like a world.
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>>49274080
Interesting. Good to know. My waifu will be interested
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>>49274099
>>49274080
To expand on this-Primordials are gigantic aggregates of Charms (quasi-mystic reality hacks, basically) centered around a theme like Hierarchy or Rulership or Nature or Invention, within which they have almost supreme conceptual control-and while they technically CAN think outside their purview, they're very bad at it because of their autistic focus on Being Themselves. Think Worm Entities if each Shard was a spell instead of a crystal-meat chunk, and without any native concept of true death.

You know those perks that make it so your willpower, magic and biology are all as one? They have that going on for them ALL the time and EVEN MORE SO; being defeated, mutilated and locked up literally made some of them weaker through depression, while the realisation of dying made some bring into being a magical entropy singularity through sheer trauma.

Anyway, Primordials are so vast they have things called Third Circle Souls to embody their personal likes and dislikes-think Greek/Norse/Egyptian gods, if they were your imaginary friends, around 20-23 of them. The most important of these-the Fetich-defines their personality and skillset to an extent; killing them causes the Primordial to die and reincarnate as a different Primordial with broadly similar themes, albeit weaker unless their charms are learned by an Exalted to which they have an innate connection to. And the 3CDs have their OWN souls called Second Circle Souls which represent THEIR most important likes and dislikes.

Anyway, what >>49274047 was referring to was their jouten: The bodies which the Primordials manifest through to interact with stuff, typically on a geographic scale which is dimensionally distorted enough to contain entire universes inside of. But they can also make humanscale, humanoid ones, like a brass dancer or a dream-woman.
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Speaker for the Dead Jump is now complete enough for review. The Google Doc is the best place for comments, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2nk_Er-8Qp-KRfR4LjhOvNVf_SAHrywJftA8AHOfUY/edit but I'll try and respond on here too.
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>>49274455
What is a speaker of the dead?
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>>49274465
Sequel to Ender's Game, set 3,000 years later.
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>>49274455
>>49274472
Well my hive queen companion is going to run rampant here. Thank you!
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>>49274482
I expect nothing less.
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>>49274455
Great, another few minutes to spend searching your jump for whatever stupid bullshit you put in this time.
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>>49274455
Sorry for the delay. Work has been a pain, my father in law was in the hospital for three weeks, and a little bit of creative burnout / writer's block. Plus, I had to reread the book.
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>>49274455
Philotic Thought seems way better then all the other capstones. It even seems like it can do the Speaker capstone much better then the Speaker capstone itself, with a bunch of other utlity too.
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>>49274574
Philotic Thought is faster, but not parallel. But I can increase the cost of Philotic thought.
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>>49274612
What does it matter if it's not parallel when it's so much faster? Sure with paralel I can think of two things in one instant but with PT I can think of a million things in the time it took me to normally think of one thing, so it's functionally countless times better.
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>>49274455
>Those drawbacks
You're not serious right? Half of them are nonsensical garbage that seems like mostly free points. If you're going to pack your jump with easy drawbacks at least put a drawback cap on it.
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>>49274674
Opps. I thought I had. it should be 600. except with They Lied.
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>>49274690
Of course you'd try to worm your way around answering the full problem, as you always do. Why are half the drawbacks so easy and sometimes from other series or things?
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>>49274674
You're surprised? The jump is packed with ways to get loads of easy points that bypass the limit. Told you it'd only take a few minutes to see her usual bullshit.
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>>49274731
>>49274707
>>49274674
Up to harass a jumpmaker before school starts, I see.
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>>49274455
>Posting when no ones on at the end of the thread
Coward. Now you're just trying to sneak things through eh?
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>>49274690
Shitposter really doesn't like you, he's been mostly relatively quiet lately but his ass always gets sore around you.
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>>49274778
See, I wasn't 100% on you being the shitposter, but you LOVE calling people 'cowards' so you made it pretty obvious who you are now.
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>>49274455
> Fathertree Companion. It can import as any tree you buy or have bought with CP, and can absorb the genetics of any natural treelike or fruit bearing organism, thus allowing it to become an Apple-Orange-Cherry-Banana-Pineapple-Tree
Huh, wonder if Red is going to able to stabilize their Garden with this, can't remember if the Garden was a literal one or a metaphor right now though maybe not.

>Philotic Thought
This is damn good, even among the capstones.

>Parallel Thought
If it's a multi-tasking perk its a bit expensive, but if we could develop it into more than just two that might be kinda cool. You might wanna improve this or something.

>Drawbacks
Need a limit.

>>49274765
>Ignore, Report, Repeat.
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>>49274765
It's Saturday, so expect this all day long.

>>49274455
Yeah, you've attracted the attention of our shitposter. He's up, he's got his cereal and he'll be all over your shit. Though there will be some lag, as he'll likely only post in between cartoons.

>>49274455
It needs some massaging. My recommendation would be to post this again in the new thread later when the adults are awake and posting.
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>>49274798
Any suggestions on how to improve Parallel Thought? I've raised the cost of Philotic Thought to 1000.
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>>49274798
You know that picture only works when there's an argument being had, not just a one way comment chain? Just pointing out it looks a little silly when you spam it every time someone shitposts, whether it applies or not.
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>>49274455
>The Google Doc is the best place for comments

You should know by now how most people in this thread feel about that sentiment.

>all these perks in red

Are...are they supposed to be mandatory drawbacks or a really eccentric form of fluff?

>Observational Analysis and Speak to the Masses

Swap prices or make the former less good than the other, beacuse as it stands the former is a way bigger buff.

>Reconnecting

...what is this based on? Not necessarily a criticsm, just curious.

>You can take direct control of any member of any Hive Organism as long as the Hive Mind or its closest nodal link is not mentally stronger than you.

Is this a canon part of the Hive Queens' power or something you made up? If it's the former, fair enough. If it's the latter, I recommend nixing it.

>Queen Me

Is the implication that you CAN'T give birth normally to those without that perk even if you are a Bugger Queen?

>Biotech Creations

This seems way, way too meta. I'm going to have to ask for comparative feats for whatever this can do.

>Descolada

Either make this a capstone, get rid of it or provide a feat to justify its' scope. This is literally a cheaper Savage Salvage.

>Fathertree
>Mothertree
>Brothertree

...that's adorable. Not being sarcastic, I love this. Can other trees be imported for mother/brothertrees as well?

>They Lied

I don't like the meta/interjump/railroady aspect about how your Formic Queen companion responds to all this. If you ARE going to factor interjump stuff, a Jumper can just magically compell her or mind control her to defy the drawback.

>Maker Maker
>A Reversion to the Mean
>Starways Congressman

Honestly I don't have as much of an issue with the drawbacks as most people seem to even though I'm a little confused at why the drawback Descolada appears to behave completely differently from the perk Descolada, but >>49274690 is a good call and the ones I listed should really be +0CP drawbacks.
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>>49274813
Yeah. I figured I would. I don't really know /tg/'s cycles very well and this is just the first pass of the jump. I knew there'd be clean up to do.
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>>49274825
Perhaps some sort of softcap wherein it's increasingly hard, with time and mental focus you can increase the amount of mental multitasking you can perform? I don't know enough about the setting to know if this is appropriate though.
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>>49274844
That's a pretty fair attitude. People are pointing out some issues, which is good, feedback is always good, so be ready to do some reworking. My recommendation would be ready to explain why certain perks exist. The more you reference the source material, and can do so specifically, the easier it'll go for you.

Good work, glad to see you're still working on jumps. Please keep it up.
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>>49274813
It's really amazing how early he wakes up to do it. Like his whole life is set up around shitposting at us.
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>>49274890
As a frequently abrasive critique of SB-native jumps, I can at least fully get behind the first paragraph.

Main thing I think would help is explaining what the point of those words in red are supposed to be; they come across as mandatory drawbacks which I don't think are appropriate.
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>>49272309
I've got a shitty WiP for Majora, but I'm not ready to post it yet and it's going to be a few days before I'm able to work on it again. Also, this isn't a claim, in case someone thinks they can do it better.

The only thing I'm willing to tease about it is a flavor thing. The intro is set right before the moon hits, and there are repeated warnings throughout the jump about how much time is left to finish reading. I'm hoping this helps capture the feel of the game, but we'll see what happens.
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>>49274829
The perks in red are optional origin specific drawbacks. Will do on OA and StoM. Reconnecting is based on Val & Ender's relationship, which always just seems to pick up wherever it left off.

Yes, the Hive Queens can take control over other hive organisms. Without Queen Me, a Queen is Sterile. It happens in some organisms. As for Biotech Creation, the Hive Queens can make spaceships and computers and weapons emplacements. The Descolada virus does, cannonically, combine lifeforms.

Mother and Brothertrees aren't sentient unfortunately, but I could add a feature that upgrades mother and brother trees based on upgrades to the Fathertree.
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>>49274825
Perhaps something like this. As this guy >>49274889 suggested. Wording could be like this. Just trying to help not trying to step on toes.
>Upon taking this perk you have two perfect lines of thought, however with further training you can increase how many you can maintain. The difficult in creating more parallel lines of though exponentially with each part.

>>49274826
Think of it as guidelines that I'm trying to give a friendly reminder about.

>>49274935
That's chilling. I love it. Alright I'll just sandbox something off to the side and we can compare notes at a later date, eh?

Also as we're pretty deep into the tenth page what should we name the next one? So that we can continue these conversations fluidly I might as well get ready and know what we're gonna call it.
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>>49274973
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal Edition
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>>49274954
>Origin specific drawbacks

I really, really don't think this is a good idea. I honestly can't think of another jump which has that apart from the universally loathed placeholder that is Hellblazer. If you keep it in any capacity I can only suggest it be an explanation of the origin backgrounds

>OA and StoM

Thank you.

>Reconnecting

Fair enough, I guess.

>can take over other hive organisms

Alright, fair enough.

>sterile

Duly noted.

>Biotech Creation/Descolada virus

Well, alright-intro could stand to emphasise how dangerous the setting is for anyone who doesn't know anything about Ender's Game or done the prequel jump, but if it is what it is then I got nothing here.

>aren't sentient

Oh, actually I was wondering about the

>It can import as any tree you buy or have bought with CP

thing, not sentience or companionhood.
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>>49275021
Boktai has 'em.
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>>49275015
No other suggestions?
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>>49275038
>You have no natural supernatural powers or enhancements without Arsenal, and are likely outmatched in a contest of raw power against Undead.
>I hope you enjoy dragging heavy coffins around

On the one hand, they aren't "everyone will literally hate you forever" and are more quirky descriptions of your methodology and inherent aspects, not fiated dooms.

On the other hand, it doesn't pay you CP for them.

On yet another hand, getting paid CP at all for this stuff is a little skeevy for the human origins given presumably lots of people deal with them without getting mobbed to death by ayys.
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>>49274973
Meh. I find the image is a really good one and seeing it posted every 2 threads really takes it's impact away. But hey, erryones different.
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>>49275128
I can understand and respect this ideal. From now on I'll only post it when it's asked for.
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>>49270876
thanks.
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>>49275150
Thanks. It's just so dang satisfying being able to post it right when someone really is pulling the stupid shit it describes. Hell, it's so good I'd say you don't even really need a post alongside it.
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>>49274973
Actually, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and paste the wip now, just because. We'll compare notes later, but I do kinda want to see what people think of what I have so far.

http://pastebin.com/jRLSAciT
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>>49271985
No other comments on these?
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>>49275235
looking into it.
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>>49275015
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>>49274612
It'd be better if you buffed the other capstones.
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>>49275353
The other capstones are fine as they are, though.
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>>49274973
Eight Inch Jumper Edition?
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>>49275550
Eh, okay.
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>>49275578
Wait, really? Was not actually expecting you to agree.
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>>49275609
Why not? Maybe we'll talk about Minish Cap in the next one? Granted Eight inches is mighty tall to talk Minish but hey.
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How is there still no Wolfenstein jump?
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>>49275640
I was actually referring to Custom Robo, but okay.
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>>49275677
That'd be cool too.
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>>49266950
>I wonder if forging the jawbreakers into an Behemoth/Artifact made from your own Sword/Ring Grace would require Craft: Gossamer or Craft: Fate?
Neither. You forge Behemoths/Treasures with a Charm that has you roll Occult, not with a Craft.

But if you'd need a Craft, it'd probably be Craft:Gossamer. Craft: Fate has absolutely nothing to do with Raksha stuff.

How do you even have the capability to use Craft: Fate? You're not a stealth Sidereal, right? ...Right?
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>>49275703
I...could've sworn it was implied in some of the books you just have to git gud enough at crafting to Craft Fate. Ligier can do it if he's in Creation, apparently. I think Solars and Lunars could too during the First Age, but I'm less sure. Of course, I'm neither so-I'd be falling back on stuff like Guru, Khert manipulation, the practice of medium magic from Gunnerkrigg Court and a few God-Machine-based Gadgets as a crudely kitbashed occult physics-manipulators. Maybe a little Scarlet Destiny to get some in a bundle at first and maybe my innate misfortune god powers just to shunt all the BAD fate away from the good fate before applying all my magiscience knowledge to the basic know-how gathered from what sorcery and artifice can be learned in Dragonblooded.

The REAL problem was, at first, I figured all the anti-fate perks I had made trying to keep hold of any Fate for myself would be like trying to hold on to a live salmon. Until now, when I got good at embroidery.

...of course I'm back to square 1 now I have NO access to Fate from not being in an Exalted jump and have to try to make synthetic Fate I'm pretty sure is nothing like the real deal so. Ugh.

Trust me-if I tried to pretend to be a Sidereal, I have so many anti-Fate perks stacked by now the first thing the other Sidereals would notice is pattern spiders everywhere running away from me.

Anyway, thanks and duly noted, I did remember that Charm but I was wondering which specific Craft specalities might enhance it. Occult does sound about right.
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