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Being Khârn Is Suffering Edition
Italian Spider-Man Sub-Edition
Italian Spider-Man > Curze. Anyway, that one WBfag is still suffering and we discovered his Primarch's true identity, we discussed "your dudes"/armor/Primarch drinks, Pert was revealed to be a FW dev, talk on the quality of the BL books and Terran legionary treatment was made and much more in the last thread >>49240075
Red Book Links:
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.zippyshare.com%2Fv%2Fs15Jqk1t%2Ffile.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23!Jx1UGCTI!vMJN89z7p8tiEC7YOAj477g6RxDtJ7culVLF3q3godg
HH Book 6 - Retribution PDF:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8aqx9j3a8erqv8d/The_Horus_Heresy_Book_6_-_Retribution.pdf or
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkat.cr%2Fthe-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-pdf-t12199249.html
HHG FAQ - http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016) - http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
Other official downloads: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads#horusheresy
HH Rules:
Crusade Army List: http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lprm5vd99yafa3/
Mechanicum Taghmata Army List: https://mega.nz/#!LFwTjQ7B!mF0eVOY8P1MPT0a-QSXypXo_ZfskhYynD41PrkaTbD8
30k/40k Rules: https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!EVh0GZZS
30k/40k Rules and more (torrents): https://mega.nz/#F!0RlxDZQC!qAu9BaubWa3KeihJRmOcsg
Crusade Imperialis epub:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/meqp1hn5sa3d6gt/The_Horus_Heresy_%E2%80%93_Crusade_Imperialis_-_Army_Lists.epub
Strawpoll links: http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
www.strawpoll.me/10663447
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First for all you wonderful folks here at the 30k insane asylum.
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>>49260823
So I was thinking, SHUT UP EREBUS, that we could give the word bearers even more unique units, and it's like gal vorbak that wields a possessed bolt pistol and daemon weapon
you know what I sayin'
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>>49260846
What Word Bearers really need is to have faith.
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Are summoned daemons counted as Fellow Warriors, Battle Brothers, Distrusted Allies or By the Emperor's Command?

Only mention I can find is if you use The Dark Brethren RoW on your primary detachment, Codex: Chaos Daemons are Battle Brothers. But without it, I can't find anything on what they count as. If they're By the Emperor's Command otherwise, is there any point to taking Daemons or summoning them? Seems like the benefits are not worth the problems.
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First for Dorn.
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>>49261467
>Fifth post
>first

Why are imperial fists so fucking retarded?
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>>49260762
>So lemon juice?
Then I think our lemons are very different. They're green, and when they become yellow as they rot, and taste acid.
Is it coincidence that I love lemons, sometimes eat them and I'm IW/DG?
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Reminder that Dorn only drinks Tequila.
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>>49260994
Warm water and bend.
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>>49261654
you might be thinking of limes, lemons are ripe when yellow and very sour to the taste
>>49261517
because their pussy primarch didn't decimate them obviously
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>>49261765
warm feet and warm nose
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So I just finished angel Exterminatus recently and I enjoyed it. It wasn't on par with Deliverance Lost, but it was fun. It did seem a little schizophrenically written though like the first half and the second were done in different sittings. I liked Kroeger as the gruff everymarine sort of warrior who was the audience surrogate, not big on the Khorne berserkering Kroeger by the end.

So my question is are Iron Warriors paranoid because it's written in their geneseed or something? Or does Perty just not instruct his commanders to not stab each other in the back?
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Would you a Kelly Curze?
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>>49262613
It's an Olympian cultural thing - basically Greeks are cunts
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How do I play Night Lords in 30k? Are they any good?
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>>49260475
We don't use the term "bitter" for the beer type in the US, so there might be some confusion here.
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>>49262613
>are Iron Warriors paranoid because it's written in their geneseed or something?
Along with their legion's hierarchy, hell ye.
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>>49262688
What is this, brother?
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>>49262613
Angel Exterminatus is my favorite book in the series, anon. Glad you enjoyed it.

Iron Warriors are paranoid mostly because of their actions throughout the Great Crusade where they would be expected to fight some ridiculously overpowered enemies compared to them, as well as being Space Great War/WWI.

Also because their commanders could be anything from Kroeger-everyman's marine, to the more often than not backstabbing and looking for a promotion marine.
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>>49262688
Yes.

>>49262831
Yes.
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>>49262831
Drop assault vanguard ROW, run lots of cheap assault marines backed up by nasty things in drop pods and fliers. You can get 1st turn deepstrike assault marines with 5+ cover or better with a dread drop pod nearby + only fire snapshots at them + fnp from a apothecary. Make sure you put them down with a bunch of other drop pod 1st turn units to ensure target saturation and then clean up turn 2. Kharybis and dreadclaws filled with your flavor of mean shit pair well with this.

Oh and tactical support squads with volkite + extra cc weapons in a pod have been absolute cheap workhorses for me recently. They will shred a unit the turn they come in and then help clean up or tac objectives.
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>>49261917
Dorn has a higher primarch kill tally than comrade at arms
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>>49263359
Nah, they're equal. Dorn>Alpharius Pert>Fulgrim.
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>>49263417
Wasn't Fulgrim killed by that OC raven guard sniper?
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>>49263481
Nope. Primarchs can get shot through the eye socket and have the round lodge in their brain, and survive.
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>>49263481
No, he just let him shoot him in the eye in a surprise momentary change of character where he acted on a just-as-planned to get Pert to work for him, rather than acting on his regular I-don't-know-what-this-feels-like-so-let's-do-it.
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>>49262688

>No black within black eyes

Does no-one read the Primarch descriptions?
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>>49263417
To bad he only cracked his mortal shell, fulrgim lives!
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>>49263635
Daemon hax don't count.
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>>49263647
Then fulgrims two kills don't count. Well his kill and a half.

Wait a minute, he's been cloning Ferrus...

A kill and a half + a heap of mannus's
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>>49263481
The bullet hit him in the temple and instead of penetrating his skull it just went around to his forehead
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>>49262688
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
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>>49264046
Yeah, the weapon he was using wasn't a Bolter, it was a needle rifle. According to the stats that's a str 3 hit to the head, wouldn't be capable of wounding the t6 or 7 on him anyway.
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It's done anons.

I've ordered 9 thallax, 1 archmagos, 1 mymidon secutors squad, 2 castellax, 1 thanatar and a knight Atropos.

The 40k scene shall feel my wrath.
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>>49262688

I'd rather a Isis.
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Anyone ever used or played against a Knight Errant? The Astartes kind not the big mech kind.

How was it? Did they have much of an impact? Did the oath of moment get fulfilled?

How would you tool one up for a challenge? Biomancy jump pack psyker?
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>>49264142
why would you buy 30k to play with filthy 40k? 40k is a broken pile of formation led degeneracy, people usually play 30k to play 30k because its a world apart in balance and theme.

Not to mention most of the points values that are common for 40k matches are sub par for 30k armies to really start taking all their toys and or good army composition while competing against formation with oodles of free shit.
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>>49264250

Not him but it's like trying to escape Isstvan III to find a 30k group in some places.

I play in Central Florida and there is exactly 1 store within a 25 mile radius, and their only starting to play 40k. I couldn't even imagine finding someone else who does 30k near me.
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Which of FW's weapons sets look best to you?

Phobos or Umbra or Tigrus?

Legion Heavy Flamer versus Phaistos Pattern?

Etc.
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>>49262688
>tfw have an entire class of all the primarchs
>tfw Alpharius and Omegon both have Scheming and exploitable
>tfw I manage to get a threesome with Angron and Russ
>tfw end up getting killed by Curze for cheating on her.
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So, before I go and start buying parts to turn Calth tactical marines into assault marines, I figure I'd ask how well they do, as to determine if I should make some just for the pleasure of modeling them or for also fielding them.

If they are recommended, what would be the advised squad size? 10 man minimum? 20 with an apothecary?

I run alpha legion and I generally have a fair amount of tacticals/other squads since I'm magnetizing my marines to make them more modular with weapon load outs to mainly save on money, but since assault marines use entirely different arms and its easier to just build them than giving them magnets for the arms and backpack, I figured I should ask on how people think of them before I order so I know if I should do it for pleasure of also fielding.
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>>49263062
It's "Woman's hair", apparently
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>>49264996
>when you lead fem-dorn on and on, making her go through trial and tribulations for your affection until that fateful day where you invite her to the rooftop and Have her walk in on you pounding Pert's thick ass
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>>49265196
>it turns out to be her fetish
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>>49265196

Female primarchs are in this thread?
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>>49265288
You mean one of her fetishes?
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>>49265196
Was it tight like an Iron Cage?
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>>49265196
>>49265288
I never thought I'd want to be Dorn.
But that is my fetish. Still trying to convince my bf to try it out.
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>>49265362
>Dat spoiler
My my.
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>>49265025
I'm interested in the answer to this as well. I've scraped together 11 Sanguinary Guard jump packs (because they look like the old school ones) and I'm gather arms for an assault marine unit + chaplain.

But as anon asked I'm wondering how they would best fit in an Alpha Legion list
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>>49265339
>tfw fem-Ferrus gives you head
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>>49265605
It's perhaps the only time /d/ has failed me.
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>>49265643
You know those silly jokes where you already know the punchline but it still gets you? This is one of those jokes, rolling 2D6 on my sides.
>>49265679
What happened, anon, if any?
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>>49265739
/d/ never has any threads regarding it. Only the reverse. Which I find somewhat hypocritically distasteful.
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>>49265790
As in men suffering NTR rather than women?
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>>49265829
Yes.
Except I'd much rather it be consensual.
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>>49265829

Isn't that netori?
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>>49265871
Yep.

Near impossible to find any that isn't just cheating though.

There's a japanese-only porn game that is literally consensual netori that would be awesome if it was translated/available outside of Japan.
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>>49265871
"NTR" or "Netorare" is when someone steals your loved one
"Netori" is when (You) steal someone else's
"Fucking Savage" is when you tank a Fleshbane hit without somehow losing your arm and perform such an overkill on Alpharius in a way so his whole legion has to make excuses on Alpharius' supposed survival and whereabouts.
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>>49265972
>>49265945
Nevermind then, I've seen stuff tagged as netori that wouldn't count as netori under that definition.
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>>49265972

Have faith, Imperial Fist.
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>>49263016
We do, anon, if you are a brewer.
But a bitter is not a lager or pilsner, the most common American beers.
But fuck me if a good English bitter is top tier drinking when you are writing or doing some slow work around the house.
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>tfw its a cuck episode
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>>49266012
The correct term in this case would be cuckqueen.
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>>49266051
pretty sure thats not what that term means
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>>49266136
It is, anon. What do you think it means?
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>>49266009
I'm not even an AL (or am I? ) and I too felt angry about his demise.

Such promise, now reaped away with all the subtlety of a Chainsword.

Have some sad music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCEJtUNe90A

>>49266051
>>49266169
Is the cuckqueen the cuck-ee?
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>>49266169
means cuck
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>>49264420
I know this pain. W. Central Florida and your store at 25 is mine at 90.
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>>49265126
It's a game called "Artificial Academy 2". Check /vg/ for the general.
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>>49266181
You are correct. The vixen is the cuck-er.
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>>49266200
>You'll never be Lion's husbando and have her walk in on you fucking Luther, her best friend.
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/HHG/ is now the Cuck General.
Who the hell turned off the Geller field?
Typhon, was it y-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TO THAT ASTROPATH?!
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>>49266281
Well, if we are to be precise, then /hhg/ is now the cuckqueen general. Which is hotter.
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>this thread
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>>49264420
I was about to correct you on their/they're, but noticed you mentioned your from Florida. Why bother?
>inb4 correction. I know what I'm doing senpai
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>>49266297
>cucks
>hot
uncle morty...

get the gas
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>>49266314

I'm almost certain that someone summoned Hermine to where I was.
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>>49266324
Female cucks, anon. Female cucks.
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>>49266324
>uncle morty...
>get the gas
THAT WILL ONLY MAKE THE RIDE WILDER, ANON.
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>>49264250
I'm happy playing the board game at all to be honest. A game is better than no game.
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>>49266349
you putting 'female' in front of something doesnt magically make it attractive, right?
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Am I wasting my time if I wanted to run a Gal Vorbak heavy army list?
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>>49264250
Besides, my Atropos is my win button, o u being cheesy, we'll take this Atropos in a 1250 point game. We will see who gets the last laugh.
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Dantioch's improved considerably. I must know his recipe.

Also I always knew /tg/ was /d/ lite.
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>>49266234
>You'll never be Lion's husbando and have her walk in on you fucking Konrad, who proceeds to skin that bitch alive
>You'll never have Konrad wear Lion's skin as a warning to any bitch who tries to take you from her
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Sundered Tower Chapter bros report in.
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>>49266411
no GVs are awesome
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>>49265643

>implying I don't want it from normal Ferrus
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>>49266421
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>>49266467
calm down fulgrim
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I hope you guys are happy.

I downloaded Aa2 and cucked lady Gulliman with Lorgar. The Betrayal at Swimming Pool still haunts her to this day
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>>49266447
Nah mate, Black Comet is where it's at. You're pretty lame not wanting to be literal Hell's Angels: The Space Marine chapter.
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>>49266535
>tfw no non-WS RoW that makes outrider squads compulsory troops
Ywn have an all daemon biker army.
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>>49266594
wb with bikes and khornedogs would be pretty boss
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>>49266499
>Aa2
What is this
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>>49266421

I love this paint scheme but i'm so on the fence about Iron Warriors. I'm really not huge on their lore.. maybe I need to read some of the novelizations.

My other Legions of choice were Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, Ultramarines and Word Bearers.
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>>49266622

Climb Mount Narodnaya
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>>49266622
Artificial Academy 2.
Also, checked.
I don't know which girl is which primarch.
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>>49266658
Read Angel Exterminatus. All will be bitter and sad then, brother.
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>>49266499
Good. Let the cuck flow through you. Destroy the Ultramarines in both mind and body.
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>>49266314

Give a man a break. I was too busy punching both crocodiles and men on narcotics who think they are crocodiles while being molested by mosquitoes. Plus our education system is shit.

>>49266203
What part of W. Central? I've heard there's lots of stores near St. Petersburg. You in the dead zone in between Ocala and Tampa?
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What happend in here. Somebody call the Inquisition
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>>49266667
All the primarchs are girls.

Just like Malcador intended [\spoiler]
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>>49266732
Which one has a dick?
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Are there any good alternative ways of doing Breachers other than dudes with shields? Like possessed marines or something.
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>>49266771

Horus, duh.

Or Magnus mutated one
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>>49266771
They all do.
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>>49266771
Fulgrim after her fall to Slaanesh.
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>>49266732
Kyr Vhalen.

The only male character in the class [\spoiler]
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>>49266780
Wait, you want breachers without shields ? What the fuck is wrong with you, you sick fuck
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>>49266658
You could try an alternate color scheme for Imperial Fists, anon.
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>>49266858
>The thread on the background
WTF is going on today?!
This be some Slaaneshi magiks.
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>>49266858
>anal vore thread

Jesus christ.
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>>49266881
Nah, butt stuff is more Nurgle
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>>49266858
>gluing cataphractii pads on wrong
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>>49266901
That's the true travesty here
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>>49266896
enema beforehand - slaanesh
no enema - nurgle
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>>49266901
>>49266939
is there not supposed to be a gap? they were the first models I built out of the calth box almost a year ago.
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>>49266971
>is there not supposed to be a gap?
nope
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>>49266981
meh I'll chalk it up to the Fists needing more Tactical Flexibility.
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>>49266353
what is this image from? is there a Horus Heresy comic I don't know about?
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>>49266858
KA, just because we're currently /d/ lite, doesn't mean you need to show that you're on /d/, much less one of the worst parts of it.
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>>49266404
It does in this situation trust me.
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>>49267170
worst...or best?
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>>49267403
Worst. Vore, and Futa are literally /trash/-tier fetishes.

Seriously, I think I can finally not be disappointed in you, and then you pull this. Frankly, I'm glad you're not a bitter brother.
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>>49267430
>Vore = Worst
Indeed, the only things anuses should eat are dicks.
>Futa = Trash
...hmmmm, I, uh...
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>>49267430
you know what, I just opened the tab for the pic to trigger people, but now I'm gonna go take a look at what this ass vore is all about just to spite you.
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>>49267600
Bad anon! Bad!

>>49267612
Oh, you poor child.
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>>49267643
>Bad anon! Bad!
My dick won't listen to me, anon, it sure as hell won't listen to you either.
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So what is the current meta in this game? I'm well versed in 40k and it is an absolute shit-fest but this game seems like fluffy builds would be more viable and even maybe competitive, I hope i'm not wrong.
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>>49267692
>assuming my gender
I bet you're a cis straight white male, huh? :^)

The only thing /d/ has for me is Consentacles!

>>49267710
You are correct. Most things that aren't the Bitter Grandpas list that one anon posts sometimes can be pretty viable.
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>>49267710
Mostly deathstars beating up each other and vehicles crushing stuff. In my local meta Leviathan spam and Armoured Speadhead are a thing.

>>49267612
Ofcourse you did ("I'm not a sick fuck, honest!")
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>>49267692
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>>49267793
Awesome. I want to get started but I definitely don't want to pick units that are bad and end up wasting hundreds of good boy points on expensive FW plastics.
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>>49267836
Just research first and post a list that you like on here so it can be criticized.
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>>49267793
>>assuming my gender
Re-read my comment. I talked about my dick, not yours.
>I bet you're a cis straight white male, huh? :^)
I self-identify as a parthenogenic arthropod with a stinger, with Apache helicopter ancestry, thank you very much.
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My bitter brothers, other than more hazard stripes, what do you do painting wise to differentiate your individual marines or is that un-iron to make them custom like that?
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>>49267911
>Re-read my comment
Oh.

>self-identify as a parthenogenic arthropod with a stinger, with Apache helicopter ancestry, thank you very much.
My apologies, anon!
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>>49267828
I love kink.com
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>>49268082
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>>49267881
What's the most common point value? 1500, 1850, 2000?
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>>49268125
The question was how to paint/model them, not how to use them
>>49268082
>what do you do painting wise to differentiate your individual marines
50-shades of bitter.
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>>49268224

An average day at FW (aboard the Iron Blood).
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>>49268082
I thought IW didn't do anything like distinctions or battle honours, as they'll die before long.

And no one is going to remember them anyway.
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>>49267612
>>49267643
...what a wild ride that was.
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>>49268224

What are the bottom ones? I do like that Contemptor.
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>>49268267

I will always be with you. Ride the Ironfire with me. I won't see you end as statistics. You're all iron.
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>>49268267
>Why are we Iron Warriors? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my kotinos... and service studs... even my plumes. The honours I've lost... the commendations I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our distinctions.
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Reminder that there is a better version of Kill Team for 30k.
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>>49268164
You can play at 2k and start taking LoWs, but usually 2.5k seems more average. Lower points call for Zone Mortalis or other alternate mission types I feel. Though primarchs and fun LoWs feel better closer to 3k as you have more units usually
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>>49268267
IW have command markings and some rare personal heraldry, but usually not, no.

>>49268484
I love that pic.
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>>49268267
>>49268825
>IW have command markings and some rare personal heraldry, but usually not, no.
The IW sure has distinctions to recognize command officers, but they are there because they serve a purpose. If anything, the IW highlights would be utilitarian first and foremost, and decorative as a secondary trait, if any.
Among line soldiers however, maybe bonding studs.
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>>49268164
Things tend to either cost more or run in bigger units in 30k so 2000/2500/3000 are roughly analogous to 1500/1850/2000 in 40k.
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>>49268082
Isn't there one guy who posts here who's painting all the right arms of his IW's yellow? That's kind of cool.
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>>49268990
Yes but the power of 30k lists at higher points values becomes ever more apparent as the majority of Legions/factions have access to numerous force multiplying rules options. Primarchs with RoWs, Mechancium with Ordo Cybernetica/Ordo Reductor, Solar Auxilla with super heavy vehicles in the heavy support slot, Imperial Militia with Army wide Buffs for a flat cost alongside super heavy vehicles as heavy support.

30k represents the might of the Imperium while at the height of its power.

It represents this well.
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>>49269154
Kek, that's Knight Anon and he now hates IW because of this.

He's an IF player.
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>>49269263
Thats the joke
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>>49269154
>>49269263
>>49269332
I'm not angry with IW players, just disappointed.
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>>49269634
You really shouldn't be. Your IF legit looked like IW when you posted them with their new scheme. The jokes were bound to happen, and you know it, friend.

Really, you should have painted their arms yellow first chance you got rather than going for IW Bronze.

You're a good guy though, since you actually improved. And post models. And have models. And have an FLGS. And a girlfriend(?). And friends. Maybe. Dunno about that last one, but probably you do.

I'm so lonely.
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>>49269634
>I'm not angry, just disappointed.

That's the exact same thing my fiancee told me before leaving.
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>>49269634
That's what my dad said the last time I saw him.
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>this thread right now
Hot Pockets, I beseech thee! Bring down your cleansing wrath upon this thread! If thou does so thou shall haveth my eternal gratitude!
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>>49269699
>I'm so lonely.
same. but luckily I have you guys to anonymously bully me because this less-IW scheme that I'm working on looks so much better. I only got back into the hobby because I loved watching battle reports from people like Winters SEO and Tabletop Tactics but hated the monthly power creep in 40k. I just wish more people in my area had 30k armies so I could write up some legit battle reports.
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>>49269821
You can always make them up like the fags at the 40k general.
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>>49269776
/hhg/, Cuckqueen general.

Where Female Dorn's Husbando, Anon, consensually cucks her with Female Perturabo, and other /d/ lite stories!
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>>49269843
>>World Eaters are a melee legion
>>no free chainaxes
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>>49269871
>consensually cucks
Is that not just having an open relationship? I don't know anything about this bland fetish besides its a meaningless buzzword anymore. Almost all of you need church, especially you faithless Word Bearer dog shaped scumbags.
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>>49269928
Not really. Cuckqueening is where the woman likes to watch her man do another woman. Open relationship would mean either one can go out with someone else whenever they wanted.

In this context, it's being used appropriately.
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>>49269928
>Is that not just having an open relationship?
you mean being a cuck?
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>>49269962
I guess thanks, Anon. Remember the skirt lengths or something.
>>49269998
I just don't know anymore.
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>>49269634
Come on, KA, it's obvious banter.
>>49269731
This can't be real.
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>>49270202
Come on, Alacran, it's obvious banter.
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>>49269699
>>49269821
The grass isn't greener Anons, loneliness means nothing. Grow up, women are a dime a dozen, quit pretending that gaping hole in your chest is your biggest problem and face reality. Life is your biggest problem because you don't excel in it. Goals I obtained, dreams unfulfilled, it's what you make of it. Learn. To. Cope. Efficiently. And improve.
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>>49270202
>>49270242
I dunno about >>49269731 but I'm not lying. >>49269751
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>>49269751
>>49270267
I don't know how to respond to this.
Glad at least he wasn't angry towards a faction of 30k expensive minis before exiting your life...I guess?
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>>49270377
That was yesterday.
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>>49269751
he mustve had a good reason
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>>49270202
>>49270267

Yeah, it's real, as sad as it is.

I had been struggling with depression and alcoholism for about a year or so, she was pretty fed up with it, then at a disastrous party I just broke down and at some point mentioned my intentions to off myself.

The next day she told me I wasn't the same as before, febore leaving she then said the aforementioned words.

Now I play RG like the sadfag I am.
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>>49270395
I still don't know how to respond to this. I hope things get better.
>>49270492
Sometimes the smart move is to seek professional help. And whether you do so or not, having definite goals about what you want to do with life gives determination to many, so, try that?


We Strange Feelings General now.
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>>49270492
at least you don't paint your imperial fists silver and plan on spending your night in /d/ like this guy >>49266858


because I'm that guy.
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>this entire thread
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>>49270623
Did you really go on /d/, KA?

Did you really look at anal vore? Really?
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>>49270492
Have faith Ravenguard

Seriously >>49270602
is right, get some help if you can, turn things around. You can do this anon.
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>>49270653
Yeh. It's pretty weird tonight. Kinda fine with that, got one of my favorite fetishes mentioned on here, some feels, and got to shame KA some more.
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>>49261917
>you might be thinking of limes, lemons are ripe when yellow and very sour to the taste
It seems it is a language issue. Everybody here calls those green things "lemons" and those yellow things "limes". Hell, I just had tacos for dinner and squeezed those juicy lemons on top of them.
Tacos for dinner, tacos for breakfast. It's nice.
Also, real tacos aren't crunchy.
It's Alpha-level of misdirection and misinformation.
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>>49270688
>got one of my favorite fetishes mentioned on here
It's either anal vore or reverse cucking.
I swear I'm at a loss of what's kind of thread we've built today.
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We're visiting dark places today for sure. Really getting immersed into the GrimDark I guess.
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Since we're talking about fetishes, I'm a world eaters player and my fondest hope is to find a pussy that could beat the fuck out of me and whom I could then beat the shit out of and then bang furiously, bloodily, and consensually
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>>49270653

I think this is the lowest point /hhg/ has ever been. I wish I could do something to make things better, but Inferno's months away.

I know what will cheer people up. Funny edits of Macragge's Honour.
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>>49270760
Cuckqueening mate. Tbqh I think it's pretty hot.

>>49270774
Definitely agree.
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>>49270768
Hot
>>49270774
>I wish I could do something to make things better, but Inferno's months away.
I can't wait for those juicy Infurrno overwolf memes.
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>>49270688
>got one of my favorite fetishes mentioned on here
>one of my favorite fetishes mentioned
>one of favorite fetishes
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this thread is the reason why RWDS should be openly funded by the government 2bh
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>>49270774
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>>49270821
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>>49270834
>RWDS
?
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>>49270774
I'm sure we can get lower.

Get your shovels out guys !
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>ITT: Slaaneshi Iron Warriors. Yes, apparently it IS a thing. Oh, and an Imperial Fist.
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>>49270852
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Heresy! Heresy everywhere!
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>>49270873
>Slaaneshi Iron Warriors.
Anyone can be Slaaneshi, bruh, for that comes in many shapes and forms.
Kinks and fetishes are nice and all, but when you get bored of food...
...well, that's when you start eating eggs with honey, Cheese sugarbread sandwiches with mustard and the like.
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>>49270852

And remember, you pay for the CCW and then upgrade it to a Chainaxe for free.
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>>49270874
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>>49270852
Let's be smart, people, and dig out not down.
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>>49270913
>Al fails to see the joke
Al, IW hate Slaanesh. They hate the EC especially. Heck, the IW hate Chaos.
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>>49270602

I've gotten much better, only time will heal this one. Thanks for the encouragement.

>>49270623
kek, that's quite true.
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>>49270841
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What do people think about graviton cannon rapiers ? The models look cool as heck but are they any good to use ?

>>49271015
I can't tell wether he looks like he's furious or busting a nut.
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>>49270943
>Heck, the IW hate Chaos.
Never said they didn't. I'm saying that even if it goes against the stereotype, ANYONE is susceptible to falling for any chaos god, or even becoming Chaos Undivided.

Take the regular traitor IW and open his eyes to chaos. IF he were to fall, who do you think it'd be?

To Khorne, filling him with ferocity and utter disregard of life, even his own, in order to rush the enemy lines and claim their skulls?

To Nurgle, bloating his genenanced flesh and rusty steel, becoming both resilient and the source of things that would kill mortals several times over due to sheer exposure?

To Slaanesh, filling his bleak existence with the drive to discover the ultimate symphony of deathscreams and all the shades in the corona of a whole planet bathed in phosphex?

To Tzeentch, putting his paranoid and analytical mind at the service of solving the ultimate equation of death and anihilation?

Do not gaze into the abyss, anon, lest the abyss gazes back into you.
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>>49271060
They're decent in a defensive sense, in that they can help delay an enemy from reaching your lines. If you want raw killing power, go for thudd guns.
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Ok, we have a 30k event coming up, gonna be my first one and the organisers asked people not to be dicks at list building. So, I came up with this.

HQ:
Legion Praetor, Cataphract armor, c-fist, c-melta
Legion command squad, banner, powersword, combat shield
Elite:
Contemptor Dreadnought, Kheres assault cannon
Troops:
Veteran tactical squad x 2 w. fist, c-plasma, melta, missilelauncher
Veteran tactical squad w. c-plasma, powerweapon, HB
Cataphracti terminator squad, l-claw sarge, heavy flamer, 2x fist, c-fist

Heavy support:
Sicaran Battle Tank, Lascannon sponsons
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>>49271215
>c-plasma, melta, missilelauncher
>mixing weapons that much
For what purpose?
Also, give your termie sarge an AP2 weapon, and your praetor a paragon blade, else they'll be skullfucked by a tac sergeant with AA and a powerfist
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>>49271215
>posting actual /hhg/ stuff
>in this /hhg/ thread

Absolute madman
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>>49271215
I'd take 2 of the same special weapon upgrades on veterans, and certainly not a 12" gun (melta) and a 48" heavy weapon (missile launcher) in the same unit ever.
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>>49271270
Hmm, might look into the paragon blade if I manage to get my second calth box soon enough to convert the model. Termie sarge will keep claws because reasons.

>>49271299
Hmm, might look into changing it but kinda want to keep an oldschool "box art" vibe to the squads. I could change the meltas to plasma though.
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>>49263583
Bullet did him a world of good.
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>>49266535
>black comet

fucking rad!
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>>49264220
or an Emperor's Child
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>>49271274
how will we recover from this
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>>49270852
Correct
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>>49266447
I will shamelessly state that I'm of the Serrated Suns. The whole "Original possessed" thing really does it for me.
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>>49270916
Unless you're a despoiler and already have the sword to switch.
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Tell me how shit my list is, anons. I know you both want to do it and hate me for posting it, but we need something less anal vore related.

Dark Compliance Army, Word Bearers – 3000 Points

Provenances: Feral Warriors, Tainted Flesh – 70 Points

HQ: Legion Praetor, Master-Crafted Paragon Blade – 140 Points
Legion Chaplain – 85 Points
Force Commander, Power Armour – 60 Points
Elites: Gal Vorbak, 10X Brethren, 3X Power Mauls, Artificer Armour – 390 Points
Legion Contemptor Mortis, 2X Kheres – 180 Points
Legion Veteran Squad, 10X Vets, 2X Heavy Bolters – 200 Points
Legion Terminators, 5X Cataphractii, 5X Power Axes, Reaper Autocannon – 215 Points
Troops: Levy Squad, 50X Auxiliaries – 100 Points
Levy Squad, 50X Auxiliaries – 100 Points
Legion Tactical Squad, 10X Marines, Rhino – 160 Points
Militia Infantry Squad, 20X Auxiliaries – 50 Points
Militia Infantry Squad, 20X Auxiliaries – 50 Points

Fast Attack: Auxilia Thunderbolt – 200 Points
Auxilia Thunderbolt – 200 Points
Legion Seeker Squad, 5X Seekers, 5X Combi-Bolters – 205 Points

Heavy Support: Mutant Spawn, 5X Spawn – 135 Points
Legion Medusa, 2X Medusae – 310 Points
Auxilia Rapier Battery, 3X Rapiers, 3X LDA – 150 Points
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>>49272706
Oh. It all jumbled up. Unfortunate.
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>>49272706
You'd be better off with msu levies than big squads, and the militia infantry will forever be shit
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>>49268082
Simple company heraldry, numbers and markings
>>49266858
Brother if you're going to have porn in the background, why isn't it castrated fisting porn, just like what dorn watches
>>49266411
Not if you call them Vharka Jal
>>49264828
Kalibrax autocannons
FIGHT ME
>>49264142
Why are you playing against 40k when you could be allying with the iron warriors of these threads
>>49264114
>What is the sniper USR
>>49263359
Pertuabo destroyed fulgrim's mortal body, does that count?
>>49263049
Where's this quote from?
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>>49273508
>Kalibrax autocannons
My nigga
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>Open the new Beast Series novel
>Get met with his quote

>‘All war presupposes human weakness and seeks to exploit it.’

-– General Carl von Clausewitz, the Prussian Militarum of Ancient Terra, M2

Explain yourselves, Germanfags. What are you doing in my 32K novels?
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>>49273616
Speaking of Beast Arises, book 10 has Sisters of Silence in it, maybe they will flesh out what the fuk happend to them.
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>>49273633
Their latest adventure has them returning back to Ullanor with the Deathwatch to do what Vulkan failed to do.

Kill the Beast!
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>>49273645
Vulkan lives right?
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>>49273656
The Imperium thinks he died trying to kill the Beast.

He was last seen smashing his hammer in the face of the Beast which resulted in a great explosion that destroyed the Command Gargrant.

It seems the Beast survived somehow but there are no signs of Vulkan.
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>>49273656

Just like Alpharius Lives.
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>>49273616

Is this The Last Son of Dorn?

Haven't seen a single review of it yet. Tell us if it's any good.
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>>49273693
Currently reading it. It was just released an hour ago.
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>>49273711
Can you upload it to mega? I bought the last one but can't get this one.
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>>49273731
After the I am finished. So in a day or two.
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>>49272706
basically no metal boxes for your dudes. Be prepared to get fucked up by artillery and tanks.
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How much rage does this thread bring you
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/blog/690067.page;jsessionid=512C1B0FF4FD6CB228B88AACB5E773F6
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>>49270734
Might not be language, limes can be yellow.

Every time we go over to my mother-in-law's house she gives us a whole bag full of yellow oblong things that look what I'd consider a lemon but are actually limes.

Are the yellow things you call 'limes' green on the inside, or yellow?
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>>49262831

They ignore night fighting, which is the most bullshit rule in the whole game, so yes, they're good
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>>49273993
protip: never post the jsessionid
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>>49273656

Alpharius lives, that's correct
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Does this list look any good?

Imperial Fists AoD Detachment:

1x Praetor - Cataphractii, Chainfist, Combi-melta

1x Centurion - Master of Signal, Artificer, PW

2x Legion Tactical Squad - 10 friends, sarge in artificer, legion vexillia

2 x Contemptor - Kheres assault cannons

1 x Terminator squad - Cataphractii, not sure what to give them

1 x Legion Artillery Tank Squadron - 2 medusas

1 x Legion Heavy Support Squad - 5 HBs

1 x Legion Heavy Support Squad - 5 Missile Launchers

SOLAR AUXILIA ALLIED DETACHMENT

1 x Tank Commander - Vanquisher w. lascannon, hunter killer missile

1 x Auxilia Infantry Tercio - 20 Lasrifles in a Dracosan

1 x Malcador Infernus

I've got about 30pts spare so there's room to add some stuff, this represents my collection but I haven't built any of the Marines yet so there's some flexibility there.

To give you context - we only have 4'x4' tables to play on, with lots of LOS blocking terrain, so stuff gets up close and personal fairly quickly.

I've also never really played 30k before but I assume bringing as much AP3 as possible is generally a good plan?

Finally, to fit in to the thread as it's run - degeneracy degeneracy cuckquean futa Perty railing a rule 63 Gulliman whilst Lion el' small Johnson watches from a darkened closet, wanking furiously.
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>>49274439
>Luther in the cupboard jerking off furiously
Surely he and Luther were already in the room, but ran in there to hide, and are doing it mutual style
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>>49273616
>What are you doing in my 32K novels
If Shakespeare managed to make it into the Heresy era, then it's not entirely far-fetched for von Clausewitz to be remembered. IIRC, he was even mentioned in Know no Fear. Makes one wonder what else might have survived. Maybe some day, we'll see Catachans blasting CCR on the way to war.
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>>49274547
Luther just wanted to be in the room where it happens.
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When is the thousand sons 30k supplement coming out, i need to play the best legion
>>
Which of the books is the current rules for base marine units? Vets Tacs Land raiders all that. Red book is just the legion specifics.
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>>49272089
>Has a regular Aquila instead of a Palatine Aquila
I'd still do Omegan
>>49273645
>>49273656
>>49273671
>>49273687
>>49274372
So, Immortan Vulkan got killed by Ork magik? And here I thought Alpharius' death was underwhelming...
>>49273508
>Kalibrax Autocannons
I'LL FITE U...if only those Autocanons didn't have those sweet drum magazines. All legion heavy weapons are better than the N-pattern equivalents, but Kalibrax are damn good looking.
But SHOULDER FIRE IS THE BEST.
>Where's this quote from?
HH3
>>49274145
Green on the inside. The ones I'd call 'limes' are yellow inside and out.
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>>49274605
It's this one
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What have you done to me, /hhg/?
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>>49274977
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>this thread
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>>49275148
Just embrace it. It'll all be over soon.


or will it
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>>49275165
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>>49274625
The Beast was primarch-tier. Vulkan and him both dying in the fight against one another is perfectly acceptable.

However, just like the Imperium had more than one primarch, the Orks have more than one Beast. One for each Klan.
>>
I bought the DG transfer sheet for some sweet effects, but now that I look at it I don't understand half of the insignia and what they stand for. There's a biohazard-like three pointed thingie, there's hourglasses, crossed scythes and all kinds of shit. Is this stuff listed somewhere? I might have just skimmed over if it's in the books.
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>>49275743
>biohazard-like three pointed thingie
Destroyer icons, they're the future combination of Radioactive and Biohazard icons, meaning those troops are using chem, poison, rad or phosphex.
>there's hourglasses
The Inevitability of Death, nothing escapes it.
>Crossed Scythes
Primarch's commendation
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>>49275743
Unfortunately the Legion transfers don't have an icon guide to download, but most of it will be in the HH book they first appear in I imagine.
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I take it from your collective silence that this

>>49274439

list has no glaring faults?

Huzzay!
>>
>>49275867
>>49275881
Even amidst the chaos and perversity of this thread, brothers come to aid on dire hours. Cheers.
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>>49274439
Praetors should almost always have a paragon blade, unless they're on a jetbike. You're gonne be torn to pieces by artillery/blasts/templates with all dem footsloggers. Consider bringing some apothecaries to improve your tac squads efficiency by about a third. Make your terminators your Praetors retinue to basically give them fearless through a banner, then equip them with Power/chainfists and maybe combiplas/meltas and deepstrike them in. Consider running one contemptor as a dual-kheres mortis dread, and one as a cortus with chain/regular fist with two gravguns. You'll be ripped a new one by any aircraft.
Artillery is fine. HBolters will always be worse than shit, Missiles will be similarly shit since unless you spot a predators rear they'll be nullified by pseudo-av15 which is everywhere. Consider bringing eight lascannons in a bunker with an ammo store for a ridiculously more effective unit, since both your heavy supports use sub-par weapons. The volkite is superior to HBs, the missiles will always be outclassed in everything they do by a different weapon, and 30k missile launchers look like ass.
SA, give your tank commander a regular Malcador with flare shield/demolisher/siege armour instead of a half-assed tank killer. The lasrifles kill about a single marine per turn of shooting, strongly consider getting a unit of veletarii in a demolisher dracosan instead. The only thing lasrifles do better is going to ground behind an aegis while holding an objective for that delicious cover save, which sounds like it could be replicated on your cover-heavy table.
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>>49267810
Is it bad that I want to counter-tailor a list that is abusive to deathstar units?
Ie. long-range can-openers backed up by spread-out graviton guns and other shit that fucks with the opponent without actually killing his army. I can see it working against everything except Fulgrim, Death Guard, Salamanders and Alpharius.
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>>49276200
well the new thing is to run deathstars in kharybdis since the spartan got nerfed
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Opinion on base and legion specific relics in a campaign?
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>>49276432
The BA sword of double wounding is better than many.
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>>49276231
>>49276231
AV12 will be wrecked by anything with interceptor and jink denial. Sicarans, Deredeos and Mortes all fill that and can opener role, gravitons to some degree too.
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>>49276529
doesnt matter, its an assault vehicle so they can still charge anyway.

you need to kill the whole deathstar and transport in 1 turn
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This thread sits on the knifes edge of decimation...

Any fellow death guard players have experience with running Chem heavy flamer squads?
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I just finished the "Last Son of Dorn".

All I got to say to describe the intense stuff that happened in the novel is

OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
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>>49276642
If this is just sitting on the knifes edge of decimation, I don't want to know what it takes for full decimation.
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>>49276593
That is true, but if I kill the pod while loaded, it forces disembarkation which prevents assault for the turn. If the unit disembarks before, I can ignore the pod and intercept the unit instead.
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>>49277018
>That is true, but if I kill the pod while loaded, it forces disembarkation which prevents assault for the turn.
not true, its an assault vehicle
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>>49276928
>/d/ calls for wet-work, and we answer! No greater lewds. No SFW thread!
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>>49276642
> Chem heavy flamer squads
Only test played one squad of 5 really, but they feel potentially badass. Wiped out a 5 man assault marine squad after they failed their charge. Giving them a Rhino might be a good idea to get the gooey death into close quarters faster.
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>>49277018
Out of curiosity, barring a dorito/mortis with lascannons, what has both range and power to reliably destroy a Kharybdis?
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>>49276642
Hear me, Iron Tyrant! Loyalists, Traitors, and those who are everywhere in between, we all can redeem this thread and everyone within it! This is indeed a low point in /hhg/ history, but I have seen worse threads. In all honesty, this thread is probably what it would be like for us to take a trip in Curzefag's mind when she was going through puberty.
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>>49276925
Black Library shill pls leave.
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>>49277132
>this thread is probably what it would be like for us to take a trip in Curzefag's mind when she was going through puberty.
>Implying it's not a trip into regular Curzefag's mind.
It's all in gud fun, anon. We simply had an isolated weekend case of pic related.
An isolated case...

It all started because of this post >>49262688
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>>49277028
Maybe I should re-read the rules, I somehow thought forced disembark prevents a unit from charging that turn, even from an assault vehicle.

>>49277092
In a legion list, not much more than that. Although, apothecaries and other units with scanners placed in key areas help with that, there's good reason for massed drop pod tactics don't work in a row as any skilled player will quickly learn how to counter them.
I can't speak for Mechanicum and Imperialis armies, but they probably have much more in that regard.
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>>49277312
If this was a trip into her regular mind there would be a lot more Batmarine posts.
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I have been tempted to pick up some BaC terminators, however I keep seeing pictures online with the horrendous shoulder gap that makes me want to puke. Is that gap the result of people putting the shoulders on wrong or are the models just that bad?
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>>49265362
Why can't the women of today have one-on-one relationships?
Every one of my former girlfriends had an idea of a threesome at one point. I was for it only if I did not have to touch another girl. Even vague suggestion of MMF is the highway.
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>>49277309
Laurie goldings ex bf please leave
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>>49277314
>Maybe I should re-read the rules, I somehow thought forced disembark prevents a unit from charging that turn, even from an assault vehicle.
it does, but not from an assault vehicle

means you have to kill the vehicle and the entire deathstar in 1 turn of shooting, which is possible but tough.
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>>49277414
Both pads are separate parts so you can put them on whatever way you like, the horrible gap is people doing it wrong.
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>>49277414
its just filthy casuals putting them on wrong
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>>49275148
My pleasure Mortarion
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>>49277446
>>49277457

Awesome, thanks anons! Gonna order me some delicious termies for power fisting time
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>>49277444
True enough, but in my first post I mentioned just fucking with them with forcing difficult terrain etc. in case they are too much of an effort to kill.
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>>49275292
>Klan
TRIGGERED
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>>49277477
No problem, have fun. The only bad part of the B@C terminators is leather straps, but it's nothing that can't be fixed.
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>>49277417
>Why can't the women of today have one-on-one relationships?
Because you aren't man enough, anon. An Alpha male can satisfy even the horniest Krieger woman and make her forget about other men, hell make her forget about any other life form besides her children.
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>>49274439
>Futa femPert
Out! Fem Pert is pure! Pure!

>>49277417
Anon, I dunno if you misread her post or not, but that's pretty much your post if you didn't touch her instead.
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>>49277531
>Because you aren't man enough
Kek, that is true. Guess I'm doomed to ended relationships. I'm ok with that, it's better than nothing. Also I'm Alpharius and so are you. Carry that with you.
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>>49277672
I'm a bigger alpharius than you are
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>>49277699
I was going to say my Alpharius is bigger than yours, but your Dubs confirm it.
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>>49277724
>>49277699
We are all alpharius. Whether your alpharius is bigger or not has no bearing on how much of an alpharius you are.
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>>49277028
Also, from the Kharybdis' own rules page: "A unit that Deep Strikes via Drop Pod may not assault in the turn it arrives."
It is an Assault Vehicle, yes, but you can only charge from it if it was already on the table, not when it arrives by Deep Strike.
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>>49276928
We'll the latter half of it redeemed itself I think. But this might have been the absolute worst /hhg/ I've ever seen as said by >>49277132.

>>49277087
My only problem is I'm trying to avoid using vehicles as much as I can. In every game I play I always play the foot sluggers, so I'm trying to find a way to make them work. I'd use mortung but they're traitors.
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>>49277747
well nobody can charge from DS anyway

it means if they pod down turn 1, and you blow it up in your turn 1, but dont kill them, you are going to get charged by a like 1200point death star in their turn 2
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>>49273287
That's okay. They're literally just there to absorb bullets.
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>>49277699
>>49277745
>'I have a dream.' That one day every person in this thread will control their own destiny. A general of the truly free, dammit. A thread of action, not words, ruled by minis, not listbuilding! Where the rulebook changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - to act - for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick BL writers and chickenshit GW executives. Fuck this 24-hour Internet spew of trivia and Legiones Astartes bullshit! Fuck Imperial pride! Fuck the Chaos gods! FUCK ALL OF IT! This thread is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new thread will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to hobby as they see fit, they'll make /HHG/ great again! ...In my new /HHG/, people will kitbash and paint for what they BELIEVE! Not for tailor-listing, not for meta! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to model his own armies!
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>>49277845
>>49277859
Where've you been posting without your trip, Scorpion?
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>>49277859

You know what? Fuck this siege of Terra, I just want you dead!
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>>49277881
You see how I responded to only two of the burning gifs? Well...lets just say I tried counting my posts and got tired, so you don't want to know.
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I'm fairly new to 40k, just trying to pick up a few books. Are there any good books about the Dark Angels?
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>>49277966
This is the 30k general. You want the 40k general, anon.
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>>49277983
Maybe he's just confused. Maybe he comes from /d/ and this thread was baby steps for him.
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>>49277983
Ah, OK. Thanks.

>>49278005
Honestly, I didn't even know there was a distinction between 30k and 40k. I thought 40k was just shorthand for the whole 40k universe in general.
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>>49278033
Both 30k and 40k use the same ruleset (namely 40k 7th Edition), but they are distinct games with their own additional internal rules.

Think of 30k as the "historical" setting of 40k, it is played out in the past of the main setting, with its own unique differences as a result.
The main one being that the Space Marines were still organised into Legions, far larger organisations than 40Ks Chapters, each with their own Navy Fleets, Imperial Army support and so on.

There are Dark Angel books within this "historical" setting obviously, as the Dark Angels are one of the original Legions.
The question to you is then, do you want to read more detailed stories about the history of the Dark Angels, or prefer to keep to their "contemporary" stories.
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>>49278033
Nah, 30k uses different armies as well as being more balanced due to the fact that there are only technically four armies.

Of course, it's also a lot more niche due to the fact that almost everything is Forgeworld stuff. Which is even more expensive than GW.
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>>49277417
You sound like a bitch.
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>>49277468
Satan*
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>>49278083
So would 30k be the period identified as pre-Heresy, or did that take place at a later time?

I'm perfectly happy reading about the history of the Dark Angels.

>>49278097
Thanks for the info. This clears things up considerably.
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>>49278159
30k takes place during the Horus Heresy, the war that lasted 8 years and ruined the Imperium and the Emperor's dreams for Mankind and the Great Crusade.

For example, there are no Xenos armies in 30k due to it being centered on the Horus Heresy, which was about Man against Man, Legiones Astartes versus Legiones Astartes, Brother against Brother. Emperor against Sons.
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>>49278159
>>49278187
Another thing to consider is that there are no Chaos armies with the exception of the Word Bearers, and the Chaos Daemons codex from 40k.

Word Bearers in 30k may summon, ally, and even become Daemons themselves, while still using the regular Legiones Astartes rulebook for 30k.

So you won't see Chaos-corrupted traitor marines, except for the Word Bearers.
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>>49278159
Current 30k Dark Angels novels are:
Descent of Angels: loyalty and honour
Fallen Angels: deceit and betrayal
The Primarchs (4 short stories, 1 is about the Dark Angels)
Angels of Caliban: Emperors and Slaves

Not sure how good each of them are, but I enjoyed that short story, I haven't read the other 3.
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How do you guys paint your iron warriors, and what base spray would you reccomened, I'm painting by hand not airbrush btw
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>>49278709
I read Fallen Angels. It is ok. Sadly it is written in this two alternating storylines style.
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A lot of stuff happened in this edition. No excuse for lazy summaries this time.
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>>49279584
The leadbelcher base spray GW has now seems ideal for IW. Nuln Oil over it and you're done pretty much.
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>>49279889
Agreed. /hhg/'s waifu Fem Pert is best.
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>>49279966
I do wonder if she cucks her friend Fem Magnus. Maybe she gets her to cast..."enhancements" on her.
Boy, does "The Iron Cage" gets a different meaning now.
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>>49280013
Eh, still tears the IFs a new asshole. I don't see how this changes anything.
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>>49280013
Nah, she cucks her rival fem Dorn, while she has lesbo make-out sessions with her best friend Fem Magnus whenever she feels like experimenting.
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