Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1065: Just Don't Bother Anymore

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>>49175039
This thread belongs to the Daughteru Swarm
Hugs for everyone

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Really should have waited.

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>>49175073
Hail Daughteru!

>>49175039
Good advice for fucking everyone here.

What's the point?

>>49175104
I get the vibe this one was made by the shitposter, honestly. Use the other one.

>>49175156
What's to say the other one wasn't made by the shitposter?

>>49175116
Forced 69 by a xenomorph-ish animal isn't daughteru behavior. It's the action of an abomination that should be purged, slaughtered, and deprived, until not even it's closest slaves can recall a single syllable from it's title. Nothing more, and nothing less.

>>49175189
It doesn't have an intentionally provocative and hostile edition.

>>49175207
Yes it does. It gets the thread number wrong.

>>49175207
Does it read like that?

To me it reads like the guy who usually makes our OPs is exhausted.

>>49175239
Yes. It's attacking us and trying to inspire discouragement, in-line with the shitposters ultimate goal of killing the thread.

So correctly-numbered thread, do you guys prefer magic, superpowers, or tech?

Oopsie Poopsie, reposting here.

>Have time and space manipulation
>Half a bottle of Captain Morgan's Cannon Ball
>Two THC Sugar cookies
>Two Shrooms
>Wander around for six hours randomly asking. "Did I do that?"

How do you party HARD /jc/? Also, what are some party woes that only a Jumper would know?

>>49175273
Don't. See >>49175156
>>49175207
>>49175247

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>>49175195
>Forced 69
The scientist is clearly been directed to her stomach anon

Daughteru just wants a raspberry

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Kara no Shoujo jump when?

>>49175273
Jumper woe is knowing that you'll leave this world in 10 years and their lifetimes will be a speck within your collected experiences.

>>49175247
>It's attacking us

Oh please, as if we don't attack other people in here with glee. Take what you dish out once in awhile.

So Jumpers, what kind of knock-off powers shenanigans do you get up to?

>Going full Cobra-kai in the Bleach Jump.

>Using holograms to make your giant robot look like badly animated enough it could have been in Godmars

>Generic "my animagus/vehicle/true form" is something ridiculous shenanigans.

If you want the real thread, it's here:

>>49175085
>>49175085
>>49175085

What's the preferred format for posting builds and short summaries?
What if you have a backlog of several to post, but want crit and opinions for each of them?

>>49175361
>Oh please, as if we don't attack other people in here with glee
Have you ever considered that they wouldn't be attacked if they didn't deserve it from their actions? This isn't a hugbox, and all criticism is valid.

>>49175375
Lunar dial to mess with others in Jojo and Nasuverse.

Saber, how many seconds can you move within the stopped time?

>>49175404
You can even count silly Anon.

>>49175415
>This isn't a hugbox

Aaaand here's our first contender, desperately justifying his assholish antics with "I'M JUST OFFERING CRITICISM." College-grade tactics and debate, let's see what the Judges think.

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>>49175453

>>49175453
I think you're a little bitch, for indulging someone who think to be a troll instead of talking about something else.

>>49175476
Oooh, and it's not looking good from the Japanese Judge.

How about the Russian?

>>49175476
Who are you to talk about eggs?

>>49175772
He's dr eggman.

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What are some good anti-corruption perks?

>>49176149
The one in Once upon a time and the one in classic Spyro are good.
Arguably the best one is in EVO, but it has tough competition with the other fantastic stuff on sale.

>>49176149
Spyro, Cardfight Vanguard, EVO, Narnia, generic children's television.

>>49176220
Up, the other thread won.

it has come to my attention disgaea 2 through 5 are up for grabs claiming 4 expect a wip by Friday this is my favourite setting and i was crushed when i couldn't do it earlier.

For all that we accuse this thread of being born of salt, Crux, your own thread's REEAAALLY shitposty.

I hope you're happy.

>>49176733
>Yup, the other thread won.
But we are scrappy, and will have another chance when the other thread archives!

>>49181560
>We
Bullshit. OP, you're so pathetic you stayed up all night just so your thread shitting on /jc/ and the community could get bumped at the last minute. That's what your life has been reduced to.

>>49183559
No, this the other thread. We had two simultaneously, so when the other one archived, this one was left.

>>49183591
No.

>>49176149
I took the one in spyro twice.
Just to be sure.

>>49183612
That's, like, your opinion man. It's wrong, but its your opinion.

So are we using this one or am i making another so this one can either die or get unnecessarily drawn out?

>>49183717
A giant floating number.

Or Skittles.

>>49183717
A bag of dicks.

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>>49175789
Huh, okay. I mean, it /is/ the same character I used for my Earth Aspect appearance, so there's that...

>>49180218
>Hey Gaunlet, I'm kinda interested in owning ALL of the Gossamer for shenanigans, so this build is kinda quasi-tentative depending on this next question. Is there any special synergy between Thaumaturgy and owning Trivials as well as the Scroll?
ASA... I'm not sure if you know this and simply disagree, but buying Gossamer as a Fae-Blood with Graces is a complete waste.

You can pretty easily learn a Charm to create a point of Gossamer from dreams once per day.

All you're doing by getting Gossamer 6 extra times (not counting the Craft: Gossamer one, because that's still damn useful), is not having to spend a week getting it with a little effort. 7 gossamer isn't even that much. I mean, sure, you could bribe some Raksha with a decent amount like that, but it's not like you're rich by Fae standards, just a bit well-off.


Also, my god...

>>49182777
>>49182790
>>49182812
>See, in Graceful Wicked Masks p. 98...
NO.

Gossamer does not affect your Assumption and Mutation charms. That's been errata'd out.

In fact, Fae-Blooded could NEVER take Assumption charms even before Errata.

You're just filthy rich, congrats.

>This isn't the frightening part...
>Ravishing the Created Form
>Assumption of Dreams and Passions
Both of which YOU CAN'T TAKE, and none of the charms building off them. They're either Native or Assumption.

>>49183717
Like little gold coins? Maybe tiny credit cards?

>>49183818
Forgot my name. Again.

>>49183818
Not him, but I just took the skill to craft gossamer. Its not like you get any bonuses out of buying the extra other than having more there right now, and you could already make more if you bought the skill. Fae blooded just seems really interesting all around, like Make guns out of gossamer and use real lead for bullets so you only need to make ammo. Powder can also be made of gossamer as can the casings.

>>49183717
Black Times New Roman on white paper usually,for me at leastit's not actually a physical thing but an Abstracted measurement of What Ms. producer is willing to do...

>>49183717
It changes from jump to jump. Usually just a number and a menu.

>>49176772
Pretty sure Heavensanon has claimed 1-4.

>>49176772
>>49183966
Woops, he dropped 2-4 last night. Nevermind.

>>49183966
>>49176772

No.

He claimed Disgaea 1 and it's direct sequel D2, not Disgaea 2 or any others. He said so himself. After finishing the jump he is not going to make jumps anymore at the moment

>>49183911
Yeah, Craft: Gossamer is awesome.

Just, actually buying spare Gossamer with CP is kinda useless since even with ASA's ridiculous amount, you can get the same with a bit of patience within a little less than two months.

>>49183911
Also, no, you can't make Gossamer with the skill.

Craft: Gossamer allows you to make things with Gossamer. Not make Gossamer itself.

You're gonna need dreams (or souls, in case of actual Raksha)

>>49184028
Ah so you cant make it as a faeblooded?

>>49184028
Is there a conversion ratio of dreams to Gossamer? Could we cheese away the ill effects of our Destiny gotten nightmares by crafting them into fancy hats?

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>>49184065
Actually, Fae-Blooded (and others with access to Fair Folk Sharms) are the only ones that can make it. (apart from actual Fair Folk)

Just, they have to use a Charm to siphon it from someone's dreams, which can be done once per day.

>>49184099
It's one dream per point of Gossamer, I think? But you can only use the Charm once a day, so it's just one point of Gossamer per day.

And... probably not, unless you find a way to activate the Charm and eat your own dreams while you're unconscious?

>>49183818
I don't think Fae-blooded can get gossamer out of dreams. Oneiromantic Conjuration requires Ravishing the Created Form as the base of its prerequisite tree.

>>49184174
Not anymore, as of the Errata.

It now only requires Banquet of Crumbs (because BoC no longer has any pre-reqs at all)

Naoto from persona had her own Novel.

She looks terrible in it. That's not the tomboy I liked

>>49184196
If I'm reading it right, as a Mortal Hero recovery rates for motes are capped at 5/hour, or 5/round if you can fit a fight scene in there.

You can use Banquet of Crumbs if you've just been to a festival or other emotionally charged place to shorten time, I guess you might be able to get to three or four mortal dreams in a night.

The problem then becomes: AH FAE EATIN MAH DREAMS! And then the Immaculate monks start doing Ginyu poses and feed you your own teeth.

>>49184196
The same errata that makes every splat except Solars useless?

>>49184318
Sure, but Banquet of Crumbs only grants motes.

Oneiromantic Conjuration can be be used no more than once per day or tale.

>The problem then becomes: AH FAE EATIN MAH DREAMS! And then the Immaculate monks start doing Ginyu poses and feed you your own teeth.
Meh. Banquet of Crumbs is completely unnoticeable, and Oneiromantic Conjuration is done while they're asleep.

The worst you'll get from those two charms is an occasional complaint that someone hasn't been sleeping too well lately. And even then it's not much.

It's not a noticable thing.

>>49184319
Nope, because Fae actually got better in some parts, and generally more coherent as far as I'm concerned.

Someone remind me, can two people have the same persona? Or persona with same name but different appearance and stuff?

>>49183717
the FBI- er, Party Van is on it's way to your house now

>>49184540
Yes to the second; Take-Mikazuchi is a regular Persona in 3, and a Party Members own Personal in 4. Similar skill sets, radically different appearances

Anyone else having Google Docs complain that you're not signed in, when you try and browse deeper into the folder?

We really really need to find a better place to put our PDFs. Google Drive has gotten terrible.

>>49184581
The local /jc/ currency does have an unfortunate acronym, doesn't it?

>>49184648
This is happening to everyone, yes.

>>49184753
It's simple. We uh, kill the Batman.

GemCraft-Chasing Shadows
Color Blind:+100cp perfect memory will compensate for this
Processing Constraints:+200 I don't expect things to get that hairy
Glaring:+200 or maybe they will
Battle Traits:
Orblets/Gestalt Field/Disrupted Flow:+50 I can work with this, I just have to remember to keep making more.
Mana Lock:+50cp compensate for this with sufficiently advanced technological defenses, and ordering my own minions to guard the orb of Presence.
Chasing Shadows:+100 this going to be rough
Wizard:-100
GemCraft:free for Wizard
The Orb of Presence:(free with GemCraft,mandatory for Wizards
Water the Earth:-200 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm8QdNR_d8
Set the Field Free for Wizard
Stand Your Ground: Free for Wizard
Shrines To My Glory:-200 discounted for wizard
Mana Lake:-200
Bolt:free
Beam:-100
Freeze:-100
Wizard Talisman Free for Wizard import diamanim jumpsuit
High tier:-600
Gratuitously Large Book of Achievements:free for All
Companion Imports:Monique,TJ,Tina,mother box-200

>>49185072

Monique
Apparition:free
GemCraft:free for Apparition
Gratuitously Large Book of Achievements:free for All
Will Unbound: free for Apparition
Heavy Artillery: free for Apparition
Spectral:-200 discounted for Apparition
Bolt:free
Beam: Enhancement Type:-100
Freeze: Strike Type:-100

,TJ
Wizard
GemCraft:free for Wizard
The Orb of Presence:(free with GemCraft,mandatory for Wizards
Set the Field Free for Wizard
Stand Your Ground: Free for Wizard
I Ran the Numbers, and I'm Awesome-100
Measured in Exponents-100
Gratuitously Large Book of Achievements:free for All
20 Wizard levels -200
Bolt:free


Tina,
Forgotten Aspirant:free
Water the Earth:Free for Forgotten Aspirant
Gratuitously Large Book of Achievements:free for All
Command and Conquer:Free for Forgotten Aspirant
Blood to Bleed Free for Forgotten Aspirant
Mark, Twist, Possess:-100 discounted for Forgotten Aspirant
Beacons of Conquest:-200 discounted for Forgotten Aspirant
Bolt:free
Barrage-100

mother box
Wizard free
GemCraft:free for Wizard
The Orb of Presence:(free with GemCraft,mandatory for Wizards
Set the Field Free for Wizard
Stand Your Ground: Free for Wizard
Wizard Talisman Free for Wizard j n67
I Ran the Numbers, and I'm Awesome-100
Measured in Exponents-100
We Are Amplified:-200 discounted for wizard
Gratuitously Large Book of Achievements:free for All
Bolt:free
#plans: use mother box's computing ability to craft gems better than I would normally be able to, use them to up the security of my animal Crossing town, going along with the plot and helping the protagonist if I can, mainly by granting them access to super science turrets as well.

>>49175195
...Do you know what a vagina is? Do you know where it's located? Do you understand that their heads are nowhere near each others' respective vaginas?

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So... What would happen if I had Pillar Man DNA (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure), Genforging (Geneforge), the Mask and Stone that Kar's used (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure). Lots of Science perks (Mostly general but more the one for DNA only), and time (Just trying to see how my first mega-project for Civilization is going.)

Also reposting my build since the update changed things.
Boktai: The Sun is in Your Hand Jump 038 (REPOST):
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Cross Battle! [+0]
IT’S HOT! [+100]
What Does That Even Mean? [+100]
More Walking [+100]
A Pale Moon [+200]
Frail and Foolish [+200]
The Treadmill [+0]
Location: Fog Castle
Origin: Solar Child [-100]
Perks:
My Will, My Way [-600]
TAIYOOOH! [Free]
Put Your Back Into It! [Free]
Our Sun [-600]
From Darkness [-100]
Mysterious Wanderer Jumper [Free]
Lunar Blood [-500]
Hybrid [Free]
Arsenal:
Jump Del Sol [Free]
Old Friends (.45 Longslide) [Free]
Modular Weapon (Upgrade) [-300]
Lens: Sol [Free]
Battery: Hollow (Dark & Sol Fusion) [-200]
Frame: Phantom [-100]
Monstrous Powers:
A Blood Moon Rises [-400]
Vampire [Free]
I Need No Weapons [Free]
Wings of Doom [Free]
Among the Sheep,[Free]
Half-Vampire [-500]
Items:
Scarf of Courage [Free]
Neat Goggles [Free]
Solar Bank [-100]
Pile Driver [-300]
Dark Loans Advance Card: Jumper Edition! [+200]

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Can a supernatural angel possess an empty vessel? What Constitutes an empty vessel? Are Robots with the capacity for an AI an empty vessel?

Do empty vessels "consent"?

>>49185197
It was a joke mang. And who are you to say that the creature doesn't have genitals on it's stomach? It has a three foot long tongue, and is clearly an alien or some scientific crime against nature.

>>49185427
>I was only pretending to be retarded

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>>49185410
>Do empty vessels "consent"?

>>49185319
Given jumpmaker confirmation from back in the day, you could go full Kars Ultimate Being, yes.

Alright, so I have a question about Workaholic from the Sonic Jump: does it work for mass production, factory style, as well, or is it only for projects you work on yourself?

>>49185615
Man, why you hittin' so close to home man.

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>>49185622
Huh, alright then. That's something to table for when I go to Civilization.

Here have a build;
Street Sharks Jump 076:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Eye Patch of Evil [+100]
Hungry-Hungry Sharks [+200]
Pollution Sensitive [+400]
Origin: Former Assistant [-100]
Perks:
Radical Inventor [-600]
Dangerously Charismatic [Free]
Doctorates [-100]
It's All in the Genes [-200]
Gene Slamming [-300]
Kahn! [-400]
Item:
Lab Equipment [Free]

>>49184302
B-but don't you want to tame her into a proper Japanese wife!?

Yeah they never handle tomboys well.

>>49185730
The sad thing is whenever they actually ARE capable of conceiving of good tomboys (Momoyo, Touko, Jolyne, Leite etc) but most of the time they don't end up being waifu material one way or another instead of some boring timid waif.

>>49185479
You're the one insisting that aliens and monsters have to conform to human anatomy dumbass. Not to mention being so desperate for conversation that you respond to a post twelve hours after the fact.

>>49184319
Errata should be ignored except where it does something good.

>>49185854
You're the one who assumes face to stomach contact must involve a vagina. Not to mention you're the one who feels the need to defend your honor on an anonymous internet message board against someone who replied to you hours after your post.

>>49185854
Just ignore him, dude. He's baiting you.

>>49185896
So, ignore the stupid parts of Infernals errata...

But don't ignore any part of the Fair Folk errata, because it basically made Raksha so much better?

Fair enough.

>>49186066
That's pretty much jumpchain in a nutshell. It's only a good change if it benefits you and heaven help you if you say otherwise.

>>49186066
There was actually errata for the errata to fix Infernals released years afterwords.

http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/exalted/124885-how-to-put-a-band-aid-on-infernals?p=128384#post128384

>>49186066
That's /jc/ for you. Pick and choose so you purely benefit.

>>49186091
Never seen that before, weird.

>>49186091
Oh, right. That exists, I'd completely forgotten.

Thanks.

>>49186078
>>49186102

Could you two fuck off already?

>>49186078
>>49186102
>Dragging tabletop games of all things into your anti-/jc/ trolling.

>>49186091
>Forum post
>Official errata

>>49186091
None of this fixes the really retarded changes, like shunting everything that increases your motes into Overdrive trash.

>>49186200
>>49186210

>I dislike the truth being told
>Better insist these guys are shitposters

>>49186200
>>49186210
Don't feed samefag shitposter.

Guess it's true that he didn't have school today. Sucks.

>Drive is broken
Was there ever a Michael Jackson's Moonwalker Jump?

>>49186250
This is what /jc/ debate has turned into, no matter what bloody topic it is. Some guy insists the other side is a shitposter and without fail it all goes to shit.

It's rare that people disagree without it turning into a shit-throwing match.

>>49186286
>Implying that neet nigga wouldn't flunk out.

>>49186276
Mommy was worse than any of those people.

>>49186314
>Michael Jackson's Moonwalker
Not that I know of.

>>49186314
Yeah but it turned into a robot and flew off into space.

Or so the legends would have us believe.

>>49186276
They're all the worst. Remove Jumpmakers. We don't need new content.

>>49186344
>>49186358
Damn. The dance attacks and Mecha-Jackson form would be pretty nice to have. Maybe as a gauntlet or something.

>>49186406
If it was that easy, the early section of this thread would have actually had comments deleted.

Janitor only gives a fuck when he's not the one shitposting.

So... once WoW is remade, who else is going to wipe out the Orcs? I know I am.

>>49186424
Keep trying.

>>49186434
>not supporting shitposts
>obviously a hugbox

Always with the extremism. You're fucking obvious, you know.

Go to /b/ and learn from some proper shitposters.

>>49186434
It's funny how other boards get this shit dealt with but /tg/ does not, isn't it?

>>49186393
This. All our jumpmakers are complete shit and holding us back. Get rid of them all, just let jumpers make up their own shit. That's how it should be.

>>49186454
>b-b-but muh board culture
>if you can't handle me at my best you don't deserve me at my worst
>censorship hurrrr

>>49186485
No one is stopping you. Make up your own shit. Jump St. Elsewhere and sit there enjoying jumpchain in your head all day.

Arguing with someone isn't against the rules. Posting off topic and spamming are. If you really want the shitposters to leave, just fucking ignore them. Even posting shit like>>49186406
is just giving them more attention, regardless of whether you link to their posts.

>>49186485
[sarcasm]Somebody is finally seeing reason.[/sarcasm]
It was a joke ya cunt.

>>49186485
Considering the term "jumpmalter" has come to mean "IRC-goer" I'm inclined to agree with you.

>>49186524
If you don't warn newbies, they'll fall for it.

>>49186509
I know you meant that derisively, but a St. Elsewhere endjump where you spark at the beginning and have to run around all your previous jumps to stop reality from collapsing would be awesome.

>>49186442
You weren't already?

>>49186560
That... actually is an entertaining concept. Perhaps someone will make it happen.

>>49186509
You mean except for all the jumpmakers who cry and bitch and moan if you step out of line, right?

>>49186560
What's St. Elsewhere? That sounds cool.

>>49186583
The dream of an autistic child.

>>49186442
>genociding the Orcs
>not convincing Thrall to stay Warchief and keep the armor he wore in WCIII
>not setting Garrosh up with a therapist for his daddy issues
>not dismantling the Forsaken

Who is the worst daughteru?

>>49186597
Thrall a shit.

>>49186611
All of them.

>>49186630
Still, he knew how to keep the Horde in line.

>>49186583
>>49186588
St. Elsewhere was a fairly typical medical drama. However, it had a crazy mind-screw ending that showed the entire series was actually inside the head of a young, autistic boy who had been an unimportant background character up until that point.

Now, by itself, this wouldn't be a big deal, but the problem is that St. Elsewhere had done crossovers with other shows, which meant that those shows also took place in his head by extension, and those other shows had done their own crossovers, so that means they were all in his head as well. I'm sure you could find a list of effected shows fairly easily, but I'm pretty sure Star Trek, Dr. Who, and Cheers were among them.

>>49186645
I'm Stalled due to real-life Problems, I didn't Give up.

Who was it that said it would get better after summer ended and school re-opened?

Yeah I'd just like to say fuck you.

>>49186687
Why the fuck are you responding to the troll, fuckwad? Report, ignore, and move on. Jesus christ.

>>49186677
The chart even links into Boy Meets World.

Which has a spinoff, Girl Meets World, which ties it into the Disney Channel Live Action Universe, which thanks to a Halloween episode of Jessie also ties in with some of Disney's new Marvel cartoons.

Also I vaguely recall another string of crossovers going through Sabrina to both Archie and the Archie Sonic Comics, but that second on is probably non-canon, especially after the reboot.

>>49186643
Blasphemy.

Are the post-spark wishes gained in Fate/Stay Night corrupted by Angry Manjew?

>>49186693
It actually has in general. On most weekdays, there's no shitposting until very late at night when he's flaunting curfew.

The problem is the weekend and holidays when he's off school. He has ZERO friends to occupy his time, so he spends literally all day here.

>>49186693
It's Labour Day in America. It's a holiday, school's out.
It'll be better this time tomorrow.
It IS better when the little bastard is in class where he can't shitpost quite so easily. I'm hoping his grades slip enough that his parents take his Internet privileges away.

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>>49186715
>>49186677
Here you go. I make no claims for its accuracy, I just grabbed it.

>>49186787
No. They're safe.

>>49186880
I suspect you can back these claims? Or are you just a power-wanking shitposter spreading misinformation?

Anyone working on Azure Striker Gunvolt jump? Not claiming, just curious

>>49186787
Depends on where you got the wish. If you rolled post-3rd War and didn't disinfect the Grail yourself then yeah. If you got a War before Manjew did his thing (or stopped him from being summoned/corrupting the Grail) then you're in the clear.

>>49186787
If you're in a Grail War where it's tainted, then the wish is tainted unless fix it beforehand.

Source, Valeria herself:

>Wishes are tainted by Angra Mainyu. She gives you a wish, that's all. It's up to the jumper to fix it if it was corrupted. Simple as that.
>I mean, I could always just not give out the nigh omnipotent wish at allbecause it's certainly not canonically anywhere near that powerful.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/44303189/#q44313461

>>49186953
I don't think so, no.

>>49186787
You asked this a couple of days ago. Are you trolling, or just stupid?

>>49187027
God damn what is it with passive-aggressive Jumpmakers.

We don't deserve this shit.

>>49187068
>We don't deserve this shit.
We've got quite a few threads of entitled whining that shows we do, in fact, deserve this.

>>49186925
I challenge you to find where it IS said that your unlimited post-spark wish has any sort of limitations imposed by grail mud.

Come. You want to put forth your claim? Let us see you back it up.

>>49187144
Read >>49187027 mongoloid.

>>49187144
Uh, anon...>>49187027

>>49187156
>>49187169
I assumed that applied to the wish made in the jump, not post-spark. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

>>49187068
Of course we do.

That post seems to be the end of a conversation with a lot of whining anyway. Started with this bit at http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/44303189/#q44310925

>If you win a war with a corrupted grail, the wish you get post chain is corrupted too. If you don't destroy the grail (Which voids the post chain wish too btw unless you do it after the war) then it just hibernates till the next time it can start a Grail War, likely in a few short years.

>>49187188
Huh. Okay, guess that means I am indeed wrong.

note to self: don't go to a Fate where the grail is corrupted

>>49187109
>implying anyone deserves anything
Make the jumps you want to see made.
If someone can provide a convincing argument for nerfing/buffing something in it, do so.

>>49187027
>She
I thought Angry Manjew was a dude.

>>49187233
Have you not seen Fate? Everyone's a girl.

Even Gilgamesh is a girl.

>>49187216
>If someone can provide a convincing argument for nerfing/buffing something in it, do so.
Nerfing is wrong and takes away choice, making it impossible to have fun when a whiny jumpmaker with a control complex tries to run the thread. Buffing something causes less drama, makes more people happy, and actually makes a jump worthwhile because jumpers aren't supposed to be in the dirt.

There. Your argument. Prove me wrong.

>>49187253
No. Gilgamesh is a bitch, close though.

>>49187292
No, no, Girlgamesh is definitely canon. She's just very, uh, manly.

Like Lancer.

>>49187068
>We don't deserve this shit.

>We definitely do not shitpost, attempt to drive out content-creators, whip out our dicks to measure over the slightest insult, whine when we don't get our way, and generally make an already awful community even worse.
>We don't deserve a spot of passive-aggression.

DeSu Anon, you alive?

>>49187358
Fuck off and leave.

>>49187269
Nerfing and buffing should depend on the Jump itself. Nobody wants Supreme Commander to drop you in as a random-ass nobody who can never get an ACU, so nerfing it to that would make no sense. Sure, the Jump itself is pretty goddamn powerful, but on its own scale you're at a reasonable level of power.
At the same time there's a limit to how powerful a single Jump should let you get. Ideally this would be managed by the community, but it's clear that will never happen.

>>49187394
Stop replying to bait.

>>49187415
Stop replying to replies.

>>49187370
I'm with family at the Zoo, just checking on the thread, I'll be back later.

>>49187438
Why, so only you can reply to the replies?

>>49187387
>Please do not criticize my behavior.
>My mother does that to me every day.

>Autistic Nerfwhores vs Powerwankers again
Lovely.

>>49187466
Yes.

>>49187477
Some multiverses have Law vs Chaos as the ultimate cosmic conflict, while this is what we get.

>>49187477
The rate at which content's pushed out has slowed down a lot, and yet there's always got to be a thread. What's there left to do other than shitpost and kick that 1000+ thread count up?
We've become a general.

So, Exalted Mortals Gauntlet, lets you get some potentially top-tier Exalted as companions. Which is a better time to jump it, then: Early in the chain, to take maximum advantage of powerful companions making some settings much easier? Or late in the chain, so (once you leave the gauntlet, at least) you'll be of comparable power to them and the relationship will be more equal?

>>49187527
>We've become a general.
Welcome to 2014.

>>49187527
But are we modern and major?

>>49187511
I feel gypped.

>>49187528
The gauntlet doesn't say anything about curing them of the Great Curse, so you should wait until you have the mental and physical defenses necessary for when they inevitably go crazy and try to brainwash you into a slave.

>>49187557
Nah, I mean like /ksg/ or HSG.
Okay, maybe not that bad yet, but getting there.

>>49187562
Armchair.

>>49187615
Good point. Alright, saving for later, then.

>>49187642
I'd recommend importing them to the Solar then Lunar jump first thing after Mortals, since the jumps are no doubt going to have a "The Great Curse is lifted post-jump" clause.

>>49187668
But wouldn't that only cure the instance of the Great Curse on their second Exaltations, not the ones they got normally from their backstories in the Gauntlet?

>>49187705
>Second Exaltations
Man Solar Exaltations don't stack. They don't work like that.

>>49187616
Hey, /hsg/ has always been significantly worse than this.

>>49187716
So what happens if you import She Of Fair Eyes as a Zenith caste in the Solars jump? There's no way it's going to take away her original Exaltation. That means she'll have two.

There. I've done it. The first 100 jumps in my chain with minimal powers, and primarily skills relating to hand to hand, melee weapons, firearms, technology and other "mundane" skills.

Now that I've completed that first hundred under those constraints, I can begin accumulating power, and more powerful allies.

>>49187772
...Congratulations?

>>49187761
Becomes indistinguishable.

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>>49187772

>>49187761
Just get a Monstrance in Abyssals jump. Convert them to Abyssals, then "redeem" them to Solars.

There. No more Great Curse.

>>49187772
Do you have a list? That sounds interesting.

>>49187859
Wtf is that?

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>>49187772

>>49187918
Congratulations!

>>49187918
It appears to be a parody of the end of Evangelion (not the End of Evangelion, though, that's something different).

>>49187984
>end of Evangelion not the End of Evangelion
WHEN WILL IT END!?

>>49187946
why is Cakeboss telling me to reconsider.

>>49187879
I can put together a list, sure. Some of them had options for powers beyond the mundane but I avoided them or simply don't use them until after jump 100. (Conduit, for example, I mostly bought weaponry, and only used my concrete conduit power to create barricades and cover to fight from. And Sword and Sorcery, while it has a magic option, I think the Warrior options are a lot more interesting)

>>49187859
haha, that's great

>>49187946
Nah, I started this chain with the intention of scaling up in power. To first master the blade, fist and firearm, before moving on to magic and the supernatural. To reconsider, to avoid this path, would condemn me to an ended chain. I've nowhere left to go, save for up.

>>49188049
>Cakeboss
???

>>49188097
I forget the actor's name, but he plays Kougami in Kamen Rider OOO. I think. He looks VERY similar.

>>49188049
Because it is your destiny to make a Kung Pow jump.

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Anyone up for giving Gamer/Minion Master a toss?

The Gamer Chain-
Concept-Overlord Native-Chain, a Gamer like Ainz who got sucked into the New World. Built the way I would build a character for an MMO, Minions and Buffs for Minions.
Has a Gamer mind-set for most of the chain, trying to exploit anything he can, and to get more Minions and Buffs.

Companions- Forsetti, Gnarl, Lilith, Mooks, Lupa d'Angela, Akitsu, Yashima, Haihane, Waddle Dees, Heather, Genie, Female Hades,
Felyne(Not named),Arianrhod, Otis, Milo, Chara(SAVED, and Podded), Dante, Chel, Strange Man, Bass, Mordred, Tristan, Pheonix(Pet not full Companion),
Canine Warriors, Fair Eyes, a Sidereal Half-caste, Gaia, Black Egret Army, Pet Dragon, Pet Wyvern

>>49188115
...Steve Oedekerk looks nothing like the guy who played Kougami. They aren't even the same ethnicity, anon.

>>49188096
>Jumper shows up in Harry Potter' first year
>struggles to master basic spells, but can defeat a whole gang of Death Eaters with his pinky finger

>>49188177
>I like swords.

>>49188164
Nintendogs

>>49188147
>The despair you feel when you've had a shitty Kung-Pow outline sitting on your computer for god knows how long that you never got around to finishing, but that you also dare not post because of how shitty it is

>>49188177
>>49188235
>Your wand is a dagger, 12'', steel core, rigid.

>>49188235
>Shirou put the Sorting Hat on
>he's so Gryffindor an entire armory worth of legendary swords fall out of the hat

Which is better: A+ rank Wisdom from the Gods or A+ rank Expert of Many Specializations? At first glance, the former would appear to be vastly superior, but is there any reason it wouldn't be?

>>49188290
Post it anon. I believe in you.

>>49188300
Well he could import a sword as the elder wand and use that. . .

>>49188177
>>49188235
>>49188300
>Sectum Sempra!

>>49188363
>Snape corners him after class
>"And where did you learn that, Mr Jumper?"
>"I dunno, it came naturally to me"

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>>49188363
We've found the bladed version of muscle wizard.

>>49188313
>Shirou orgasms

>>49188466
Shit, Saber is there too?

>>49188479
Well, she is a sword.
If nothing else Caliburn or Excalibur might fall out of the hat

>>49188477
Keikaku/10

>>49188479
Saber is everywhere. You can't escape the Seibah clones.

>>49188477
Depends on how willing you are to stake your life on the MC retaining all of his plot armor and you benefitting from it as a background character without a writer to cover your ass.

>>49188523
Different anon, but I just watched all of Railgun s1 and s2, haven't seen any Index though. If I ignore the magic plot and don't disrupt the main characters, can you sit back like a normal student or teacher for a slice of life jump?

>>49188347
Alright, just for you anon.

I went through it and cut out anything that was too stupid, so there's more than a few holes. Don't mistake me posting this as a claim either, I'm almost certainly never going to finish this.

My biggest issue was that I can't get the voice right.

http://pastebin.com/DZXgZE9u

>>49188477
There is a character that will auto gank you the instant you enter the jump if you wish her harm, she is a horrible person who you will hate if you know anything about her.

Read spoiler at your own risk.
Vento of the Front has an always on magic that sends anyone who wises her ill into a coma with a planet wide range, she regularly steals candy from children so that they get put into a coma when they get mad about it because she finds that funny.

>>49188608
Probably, yes.

>>49188668
I read that and immediately thought of Cardcaptor Sakura.

>>49188608
Completely new anon chiming in here, but I seem to remember back when the jump was maybe six months old people were saying that was a thing you could easily do.

Like if you very specifically stay the fuck out of everyone's way and just play the normal student, it's apparently super easy to survive and even have fun. But if you try and get involved in the plot then bullshit happens.

>>49188668
Does it continue if they're dead?

>>49188668
So would anyone care if she just instantly fell into a coma?

I've got it set up so that I'm reflecting magic right back on the caster...

>>49188608
Unless you trust Crowley of the OP Bullshit to protect the city your very existence is enough to butterfly away events that are needed to keep you alive.

Does the HSDW skill provide any knowledge of Magecraft, or just the skill in how to perform magecraft using that method?

>>49188731
>tfw "Cardcaptor Sakura will murder you" is an actual meme now
>tfw can't reset this twisted game

>>49188751
No, if she dies the effect ends. Probably.

A request to Miib, not Mib for the WoW update:

Can we get Harpies as an available race?

>>49188668
Her bullshit is magic based, and all it does is remove the oxygen from your blood.

So either have magic resistance/immunity (which no-sells 80% of the setting's bullshit anyways) or just don't need to breath. There, problem solved.

>>49188819
>Probably
Good enough. Astrally project and jump into their head once they're in a position where it's crucial to their survival that they aren't suddenly and permanently incapacitated.

>>49188854
All their lore talks about is how they're beautiful and get hotter with age, but also that they're evil bitches and also that their homes smell fucking awful (I guess because they shit everywhere.)

Not sure why you'd want to be one.

>>49188854
I vaguely recall him saying they'll be available.

>>49188854
He said as much in the IRC.

>>49188610
I like it so far. Needs a little more fleshing out, but it's a good start. If you're having problems with the voice, you watch the movie again for reference, or just use your own voice.

>>49188902
Who said anything about being one.

>>49187454
Well then, dropping these off
>>49181739
>>49182049

Also, if we use blue feather on Polaris, will she help during Errai rising or she disappears till post jump?

Speaking of Errai Rising and Polaris, if we take "Sleep, Master of Memories" it just makes Alcor immediately targeted if he's without protection, and we HAVE to do stuff to avoid Civil War thing or just convince people back instead of leaving it to Shining One?

as for Dragon Stream thing... How would that perk work post jump? Dragon Stream is specific to DeSu2 afterwards and it's based on let lines, no?

Also, are we free to wank what swords of other admins would do or you want to throw in ideas?

Funnily enough, despite how great of a guy Hibiki is, I would feel bad for taking him away from his friends... Including Alcor. But if we beat Errai rising, I dunno what ending happens. Apparently Miyako and Alcor disappear... Miyako is accounted for but Alcor, fuck.

Oh, speaking of Errai. So is it basically first week against Polaris, then second week without jumper and Hibiki against Arcturus... Or Errai. And then OUR second week, the people's third, against Errai? Like Triangulum?

>>49188963
Please potty train your waifu unless you want your warehouse to be disgusting.

>>49189063
You know, I always found that bit of Harpy mythos - the part that seems fucking universal - to be stupid.

Yeah, birds are filthy, FILTHY creatures. But even with harpies being avian, they're still humanoids. Is it something about the Evil template that just forces filthiness?

>>49188854
Already planning on it.

>>49189097
>Is it something about the Evil template that just forces filthiness?
Yes.

>>49189097
It's the association of Good with Purity, and thus with Cleanliness. Evil is often associated with Corruption, and thus Filth - "purge the unclean," after all.

>>49189097
It's really stupid, yeah. I imagine one writer just thinks it's hi-larious.

>>49187879
Here's that list! http://pastebin.com/rVj58XLg

in putting it together, I find that I completely forgot to stop off in the FX's Archer jump. Guess I've got another stop to make!

>>49189138
Thanks.

>02: DooM
You crazy, anon.

>>49189097
So they don't really have enough to be a buyable race, but can I get a Dryad companion?

>>49189173
Mind you, that's the "you get a fun deathmatch with jumpchan" original doom Jump that I took mostly to enhance my armory and because playing doom is awesome.

not the Doom 2016 jump. Haven't taken that one yet.

Considering moving to jumpchain from the general. Is there anything I need to know? I like reading both but this community seems cooler.

Trying to choose Jump 1 from each of these, no Drawbacks.

>Ben 10
>Skyrim
>Adventure Time
>Kingdom Hearts
>Young Justice

What is, objectively, the worst thing that could happen to me in each, assuming I go with the local mage background?

>>49189097
Was there a verdict on Nerubians? Kinda lost track of the conversation when you were asking for race suggestions so I don't know if you've made a call on putting them in yet.

>>49189214
Flee, screaming. Before it is too late.

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>>49189214
>Is there anything I need to know?
Pic related is a good portrayal of what you can expect.

>>49189214
Just read the OP PDF, it walks you through your first jumpchain.

>>49189234
>>49189279
>Trying to chase off new blood.
Doing a good job killing the thread.

>>49189214
Always remember to mamoru that smile.

>>49189218
>Ben 10
Killed by omnipotent aliens.
>Skyrim
End up as a rape slave in Cold Harbor.
>Adventure Time
Murdered by the Lich.
>Kingdom Hearts
Corrupted into a Xehanort.
>Young Justice
End up hurtled through time like Batman when Darkseid lasers you.

>>49188352
what?

fucking updates probably

>>49189192
I've actually been trying to figure out what I'm doing with the canon companion option. Let's be honest - it's full of so many loopholes that it's swiss cheese, and trying to plug those holes is going to have me doing a Big J impression by the end of the week. Right down to the sudden spear-stabbing.

So right now the plan is to at least work with it so that Ragnaros isn't worth the same CP amount as Gryan Stoutmantle.

>>49189232
There wasn't a verdict before, but I'll try and accommodate the Nerubians and other insectoid races.

There's just a few issues with them that're going to take a bit of working out, such as the whole "servitude to the Old Gods." The Nerubians at least have sects that don't engage in that, but the Mantid, Qiraji, and others most assuredly do.

>>49189303
I don't like looking at it, myself, because it reminds me of Quicksilver and how great he was.

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>>49189352
>Murdered by the Lich.
That's actually the least horrible thing he can do to you.

>>49189352
I see. So I should probably go either Kingdom Hearts or Adventure Time? Or am I misjudging how likely these all are?

Do appearance perks provide some resistance against reality warping?

>>49189456
Well, you'll still be pretty no matter what you're warped into, but that could just mean that you're like, a really well-crafted candelabra.

>>49189456
Why would they? You probably just become an attractive mutated mess instead of an average-looking mutated mess.

>>49189453
Go Skyrim, don't be an Idiot and you should be fine. Coldharbour is ESO, which takes place like a millennia earlier.

>>49189515
Now is that "don't have no wilderness experience" tier of "don't be an idiot" or "don't hug a dragon" tier of "don't be an idiot?"

Regardless, will do.

>>49189515
Cold Harbor is a deadric realm that doesn't just stop existing after the shitty MMO game's era.

>>49189515
>>49189537
Bzzzzt, wrong. Two facts:

Cold Harbor has always existed in the lore. It's the Daedric realm of Molag Bal, the Daedric Prince of Rape. His realm is a dark mirror of Tamriel where everyone is a slave, it's always ice cold, and everything is smeared with shit and mud. He represents literal rape as well as rape as in desecration and corruption, and his realm is full both.

Fact two. ESO isn't canon. It was made by a different company, and its 'loremasters' declared that the mainline TES series is non-canon to theirs and theirs is the true story. Thus the reverse is also true, ESO is not canon to the real series.

>>49189583
So what level of "don't be an idiot" do I need to avoid this, on a scale of "don't wear white after Labor Day" to "don't lick an electrical outlet?"

>>49189610
Don't get involved with anything having to do with Molag Bal.

This also means you should avoid vampires. There's hundreds of different bloodlines, but all of them can be traced back to an act of rape by Molag Bal. Some of them hate his guts and want to kill him (including the first ever vampire period), some don't remember their origin, others serve him faithfully. So don't risk it.

>>49189214
The four major things are that there's some shitposters who keep trying to insist jumps should be replaced or discredit jumpmaker so be careful when responding to what seems like bait, you don't need to import companions to have them active in a jump, you can have out 8 companions plus any podded ones from the Warehouse supplement, and that companions respawn if killed. Finally jumpers don't interact with other jumpers, everyone is in their own continuity separate from everyone else. Welcome aboard, and good luck. IRC is also good if you need minor details clarified or just want to chat, link is in OP.

>>49189537
It's both. Don't fuck with daedra (though aedra are generally okay) Don't climb a mountain with no shelter or materials.

In Railgun, Imagine Breaker comes with the Bad Luck and Keikaku Keystone drawbacks. Is there any way to take it and still mostly avoid the plot danger, or messing with events that would avert catastrophe?

>>49189453
Start with either Ben 10, Adventure Time or Kingdom Hearts. They're the safest.

Skyrim is pretty much generic fantasy world, You should be fine if you stay close to civilization and just be a shopkeeper, thief, guard, etc. But out in the world there are bandits, monsters, vampires, werewolves, evil gods, crazy necromancers and worse. But still it's nothing that can't be handled by a high-fantasy protagonist.

>>49189515
Technically Coldharbour isn't restricted to ESO, but unless you're actively trying to go there, or you just get involved with some Daedra shit, you should be safe.

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>>49189654
says the jew
lol

>>49189668
Yeah. Pick it up in Generic Magical Girl.

>>49189662
>Trying to shit on all daedra.
Nocturnal, Azura, and Meridia are generally harmless and fine to deal with.

Boethiah and Mephala will also generally be fine if you're a Dunmer.

The rest are somewhere in the middle for the most part, be sure of where you stand and what you want, and what they represent. Careful with bargains with Hermaeus Mora, don't deal with Sanguine unless you want to party, stuff like that.

Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon, Sheogorath, and Malacath are exceptions. Don't deal with them at all. Two of them are evil outright, one is insane and unpredictable, and the last is the daedric manifestation of a bucket crab who drags others down because of his own bitterness.

>>49189654
>jumpers don't interact with other jumpers

Laaaaaaaame.

>>49189420
Eh, he just did that to make a point. Being what is essentially the concept of death and nukes in physical form, he's pretty blunt about what he's trying to do to people.
That said if you're needed to accomplish his goal of murdering everything you might go through some shit before you actually die.

>>49189097
Could we get Dragons as a race as well?

>>49189733
They're so ridiculously beyond all the other races that would be insane.

>>49189062
If you can convince Polaris to marry you, which I doubt, she'll have to fight Errai, given that he's kicked her off the throne in that scenario. But she'll be heavily depowered, having lost the Throne, and will only be able to take on her second phase form. She'll be slightly stronger than Alcor would be at the same level. Keep in mind, that's still scarily powerful in-universe.

Alcor is immediately targeted, and you have to fight the other factions and bring them back. Hibiki can still help, and even do most of the work, but you're going to have to fight them and win. It'll be you, Hibiki, Alcor, and any companions vs everyone else, plus some of their followers.

You'll be able to call on ley line energy in future jumps in the same way post-jump, and you can tap into a weaker version of it even with no ley lines present.

Eh, I'd say that Betelgeuse and the Winter Diamond should be associated with ice and crystal, but other than that go nuts. I already described Betelgeuse on here before, a few threads ago I believe, so you should be able to find that.

Errai Rising is essentially a better version of the canon ending. Like usual, everyone gets their happy ending, and both Alcor/Al Saiduq are reincarnated on Earth (you should see Alcor as a surfer during the post-credits ending of DeSu 2 Record Breaker if you've gotten his Fate level to five). In addition, all the Administrators are so terrified by the fact that you managed to beat Errai that even if Earth was still part of the Administrative system, they STILL wouldn't invade.

Basically, yes. In the second week Hibiki was erased and most of the main cast was slaughtered by Arcturus before he was finished off by Alcor and Yamato. (you can fanwank what happened to you, either way you're still alive during the third week) However, seeing that Arcturus was defeated, Canopus decided to put Errai in charge instead, which is the divergence point.

>>49189583
>ESO isn't canon.
>its 'loremasters' declared that the mainline TES series is non-canon to theirs and theirs is the true story.

Proof? Not disagreeing with you, but I legit want to know.

>>49189733
I'll think about it.

Right now I'm focusing on races that are about equal to the base player races, with ones like Murlocs, Kobolds, and Gnolls available as drawback races due to all the unfortunate implications with those sods.

>>49189360
Maybe make 'normal' canon characters priced 100-200, with Ragnaros-tier being 300-400? Maybe more.

And speaking of companions, apparently Class Halls in Legion are chock full of waifus like Valeera. Any chance that those could carry over?

>>49189564
>>49189583
>>49189673
I know, but ESO is the only time a PC enters Coldharbour, or it has any plot relevance at all. Still playing Oblivion so if there's something in there I wouldn't know.
>>49189720
Boethiah has a lot of Ork followers too i think.

>>49189790
God damn it me, this is the third or fourth time!

>>49189654
So if I want to take a character from a setting after the 10 years to become a companion, I don't have to pay? And if I want to bring a companion into a new setting, I don't have to pay unless I want to give them a background and perks?

>>49189802
I'm not really sure how the idea of Saw would transfer over to this type of format. Being led through an imagination exercise where you have to do horrible things to survive is different from actually having to do horrible things to survive.

>>49189726
So did we figure out what his relationship with these eldritch abominations is yet?

>>49189817
>Garrisons
>Class Halls

[WAKE ME UP]
[WAKE ME UP INSIDE]
[WAKE ME UP]
[WAKE ME UP INSIDE]

When I get to those supplements, I'll probably enable that - Yes, while your Class Hall / Garrison followers will carry over with the base if you convince them to? Unless they're a Companion, they won't be that modifiable.

... God this is going to be the Pig Sty Alley drama all over again.

>>49189828
Boethiah is the daedra that warped Trinimac into Malacath. Any orc worshiping him/her is basically betraying themselves. But yeah, Boethiah has a lot of non-Dunmer worshipers, but if you're not a Dunmer then you should deal with Boethiah like you would most of the middleground Daedra. Caution. They are the prince of bloodshed and lies, after all.

>>49189805
Google it. I don't keep a fucking archive of citations for every fucking thing I know and say.

>>49189844
If you want to take a character from a setting when you leave, they either need to be purchased as a companion IF the jump allows it, OR you need a Stasis Pod from the warehouse to put them in, a Blue Feather from the Harvest Moon Jump to marry them with, OR you can stop by No Game No Life and get the summoning ability, then go to Highschool DxD, summon them, and use the Evil Pieces you are given to distribute to turn them into a companion.

Now that you HAVE companions, you can bring them into a jump with you, without importing them. They are essentially drop-ins with no local history, and do not get enhanced by a setting. If you go somewhere like Harry Potter or Railgun, and want them to get powers, they need to be imported to get those powers.

>>49188668
Why would I want to harm her when I know it'll auto-kill me?

>>49189944
It's not about harm. It's about dislike. Hating her is seen as being a threat.

>>49189944
Not killed, put into a coma that lasts until the "focus" of the magic is ripped out of her body. She is very good at insisting the hatred of others and any level of hostility towards her (even with no intention to act on it) will trigger the Divine Punishment.

That being said it does nothing to people who want to kill her without any feelings of hostility towards her so a sociopath can just put a bullet in her head without worrying about it.

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>>49189864
Other than that he's aware that they existed no. Of course we don't even really know what the fuck the Lich is. He's aware of the multiple universes, and the space before time, and he seems to be associated with the green death that comes out of nuclear bombs, but other than that, he's not really inclined to talk about himself. He doesn't respond TO characters so much as he talks AT them, and he doesn't talk about himself so much as he talks about things that have happened and the things he is going to do. There's not much more than that. He just is. The Lich is a thing that exists.

So do powers besides [Stands] and [Cels] etc. exist in Coco's Bizarre Adventure? Or is everything based on those?

>>49190113
they also have propane

>>49189944
It isn't about harming her it is about hostility/dislike, there is a character who simply ignored her power and tried to kill her without being affected by it through sheer force of not giving a fuck.

>>49189790
Oh fuck, didn't beat Triangulum yet. That is good to know then.

Considering Polaris can separate herself and stuff, yes she is powerful. But having her on our side fighting Errai might help.

It kinda freed up my companions plan, because now I have no need to get Hibiki or Alcor, except for maybe one off adventure in other world and then letting them go. But in that case I can use pods.

I am glad everyone gets happy ending. As for Polaris...

I can see her point of view honestly, considering how she governs several universes. She's either trying to free up memory space... Or, you know that feeling when a CP 14 Weedle hatches from 5 kilometer egg in Pokemon Go? And how you immediately transfer it as its not worth it putting resources into it?

Humanity is such a Weedle to Polaris, due to her duty and how she was never human so lacks our perspective

>>49189420
The fuck is going on here?

>>49189944
Fun thing. Her power works by depleting the oxygen in your body.

Just turn into a thing that doesn't need it

>>49190247
The Lich is basically showing off to Finn and Jake by revealing the existence of the Outer Gods.

Who can beat Aleister Crowley?

>Be minding your own business in a mundane world
>Having fun with companions, chilling out
>Suddenly auto-dodge power kicks in and makes you duck
>Turn on every enhanced sensory power to try and find out what just happened
>Don't see anything
>Never find out what that was
Anyone else have any experiences like this?

>>49190267
Bronchitis.

>>49190280
HeavensAnon did. /Something/ followed him and hides in the corner of his eye.

>>49190247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwcE4yaBACQ
This.

Basically the concept of death incarnate is suppressed in the body of a giant baby man. He can't do anything now, but it's still a really bad idea to fuck with him.

>>49189890
Sounds spectacular. Sorry for the despair that this jump brings you.
>>49190098
So besides Gunther, those things just haven't really been that important?

>>49190230
Yeah, even though a lot of her power comes from the Throne, she's still no push over. She's not as strong as she was, she's been reduced to a state where she'd fit with the rest of the cast, but she's still the strongest individually of them.

Part of my problem with Polaris is that she's perfectly okay with Yamato's plan, which basically amounts to mind raping the entire population into having an entirely mind set and morals, and even says that was her plan as well. I think it's less that she thought mankind had run out of potential and more that Alcor helping them caused them to evolve in a way she didn't like. Getting kicked off the Throne by Errai and given a mortal form (or at least a weaker version of her true form, that's up to you how that works) would probably help her see things from humanity's perspective.

>>49190247
The Lich is mind raping two assholes who were bullying his reincarnation by showing them images of the setting's equivalent of Outer Gods/Great Old Ones.

For reference, the next shot of them is them trying to CLAW THEIR EYES OUT. Or rubbing dirt in them in with the same movements.

>>49190266
It's not Finn and Jake, it's the King of Ooo and his lackey.

>>49190349
Not really, no.

>>49190379
Great Old Ones are just alien priests, man. Nothing special except in being powerful.

>>49189279
I love how there is a random member of /pol/ in the background for no reason.

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>>49189890
You Awaken in Razor Hill drawback when?

>>49190415
Oh, I know, but they're still sanity shattering, and I figured it might be a stretch to for sure call those things Outer Gods just yet, given that we have no idea just how big a thing those guys were.

>>49189890
You forgot both the [CAN'T WAKE UP] and the [SAVE ME] parts of the meme.

Ten points from Gryffindor.

>>49186066
>So, ignore the stupid parts of Infernals errata...
>But don't ignore any part of the Fair Folk errata, because it basically made Raksha so much better?
>Fair enough.
Except for the shoehorning of a Limit/Morality trait.
I fucking hate those in all the WoD stuff. Errata is clarification, not inserting badly thought out new crap. Like suddenly these super Fae always existed, and no we are not going to expant on them, just dump them here so you are stuck with them, Ditto the Hanna. Nope, your Fae PC is not even allowed to just have adventures in the wild any more, and no, we are not going detail them either, just make them canon to ruin your fun.

There is a difference between actual eratta that clarified what was confusing, or fixing issues where something was mechanically broken (not deciding it was to powerful, but had actual mechanical issues with how it worked) or contradicted previously established canon.

A lot of the errata was not about that, it was about them disagreeing with something about the system, that was working as intended, placed there by the actual designers, that they personally changed because it did not fit with their head canon.

Like making Perfect Equipment suddenly never exist, when glamour being innately perfect because it was made of dreams was it's thing, and perfect equipment was fucking CORE BOOK. Or deciding essence could not help with thamaturgy, when thamaturgy was about using the aspected essence naturally found in the matter of creation to produce effects.

(cont'd)

>>49190580
>>49186066
(cont'd)

There came a point where they just didn't care about anyone else's games or opinions other then their own, So they stopped caring about fixing the mechanics, and only about fixing the game to match their own egos. So some of the parts of the game they had been ignoring because they did not like them, they just errated away, even though there was nothing wrong with it besides them not liking it. And then some of the new stuff they started self inserting started needing errata, and the writing was on the wall.

You are being a bit insulting with how dismissive you are being when someone has good reason for keeping the good some and discarding the parts that as not actually errata.

>>49190580
I guess the Hanya were a "You're doing it wrong!" reaction to people the devs had talked to who had decided for their Raksha to just fuck off into the Wyld and ignore creation.

Honestly, you'd think the lore would've already covered it. It says outright that Raksha that observe creation are inevitably drawn to it, they can't remove their own fascination and interest and desire to fuck with it. Your raksha, if they tried to leave Creation, would eventually just want to come back anyway.

>>49190379
I got a better comparison then.

>"Okay, I got my Eevee all specced up for a Flareon, now just to get a Fire Stone. But first, lunch break!"
>"Okay, I'm bac- WHY IS MY EEVEE A JOLTEON? ALCOOOOOOOR!"

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>>49190666
Wow. That's great to know, thanks Satan!

>>49190580
The idea of Prince Balor as a fae who was strong enough to avoid getting murdered by Celestial hit squads was always canon, it's just nobody ever gave a name to things like the before.

Not disagreeing about the devs being wishy-washy and more concerned about winning internet arguments than creating a good game, though. When they took time to rewrite their own Unconquered Sun statblock, it was a pretty good warning sign of how 3e's development cycle has played out.

>>49190787
>When they took time to rewrite their own Unconquered Sun statblock, it was a pretty good warning sign of how 3e's development cycle has played out.
How so?

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>>49190777

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>>49190666
>>49190777

Is it bad that I want to combine SWLiHN's charm that lets you possess dreameaten with being a raksha that has dreameaten some people?

For those that don't know, this charm basically turns anything mindless you possess into a clone of you, mentally. Same personality, same goals and desires. It also recovers the dreameaten, letting them recover their personhood and virtues. You'd basically have a replenishing food source of your own clones. Mental clones anyway.

>>49190666
>>49190777
>Satan being helpful
>God thanking Satan
So I guess you guys worked things out? Good to hear.

>>49190810
There was nothing really wrong with the original version, which was basically a puzzle boss, but the rewrote it to make it so after you got his virtues down he turned into a super form that would be a challenging fight on its own. Not really better or worse, but it was just done as part of "the Dawn solution," which was errata to address the fact that Dawns had four combat abilities when you can't actually need more than two, tops. It's just part of a pattern of never being able to leave well enough alone and work on something new instead of going back to change shit according to whatever new idea has popped into their heads. Which is why 3e only has like one book out by now, almost half a decade since it started.

>>49185714
>>49183818
About ASA's take all the drawbacks and all the glamour build, he mentioned a lack of shaping defenses. But I thought all the Solar tier's were good at no selling those? And the Alchemicals have that protocol, and a year between attempts to re-spec and get charms specifically designed to shut you down. Like, by year 4-5 I would expect some Axiomatic submod that is really unfun to Wyld energies being used against the alchemical. Because Autobot was the one who used the Wyld for spare parts, so Non Noming glamour for resources would be doable, Without even going into the Unshaped into Mountain Folk issue.

And 54 glamour is not a lot really. Doesn't the Fae glamour background give by the season, and the Perk by the year.

And in addition to the dream siphoning, there is the Ring charm that creates glamour by fulfilling a motivation. A Raksha Lord would have several commoner Raksha workers with that charm and a easy to fulfill crafting motivation just pulling it out of the ether.

Not that any of this would exert happen, because Taco cart means you have a Sidereal specifically tasked with keep your influence strictly local, and not being a Creation wide issue.

And unless you were able to turn Secret before the Alchemical has charms and submods designed specifically to counter you, she WILL be attaching simultaneously during Calibration towards the end, because using your enemies against you is an obvious ploy.


>They're either Native or Assumption.
The 800 CP perk should let you use some native charms, but your body counts as an active assumption, yup. You could probably take Assumptions after the jump ends when you have your powers back by becoming something like a NGE angel whose existence is more abstract, and putting on an assumption from that form.